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Title: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 01, 2017, 04:35:35 PM
Year 2017.

Since there were issues voiced about the date in the previous title, and even though 500 pages were not filled up, here is the new thread.

News and current events discussions.
Same rules apply. 
Be neighborly to one another!!

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Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 01, 2017, 04:39:11 PM
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Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 01, 2017, 04:40:25 PM
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Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 01, 2017, 04:46:05 PM
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Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 01, 2017, 04:52:28 PM
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Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 02, 2017, 09:27:39 AM
And the Rosie/Donald feud continues.. you know I have to say there was a time when  I was Rosie's #1 fan, I really was.  And I still like her, but she needs to let this go, it can't be good for her own mental health.


Rosie O'Donnell just called Donald Trump "mentally unstable," which is not shocking given their history, but she followed up with a remark/threat that is alarming.

Rosie tweeted, "LESS THAN 3 WEEKS TO STOP HIM AMERICA."  She doesn't explain what she means, but you'll recall the heat Trump took during the campaign when he told a gun group, "If she gets to pick her judges nothing you can do folks, although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is" ... lots of people viewed that as a veiled call to action. Rosie just did the same thing.

Your move, Prez elect.


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Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 02, 2017, 01:44:57 PM

Thanks for the laughs, Linda!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 02, 2017, 02:00:09 PM

As for Rosie, "she" needs to let it go?

She did an impression of him over ten years ago on The View, for less than 5 minutes, and "he who shall not be named" is
the one who has never let that go. Not to mention the names he's called her over the years and worse. How does one let
something go when the other person never does? The bully has picked on "her" for ten years, so she has a right to let it
out once in awhile. "Good for her," I say.

The link on that tweet also refers to a CNN article where his mental instability is evident.

The "stop him" line...what's good for the p-elect is good for the gander.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
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Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: brian on January 08, 2017, 04:46:52 PM
As someone has written elsewhere- 2017 is starting like 2016 ended. Another loss.
Peter Sarsted. Probably not as famous, his name meant nothing to me and apparently he only had one big hit but one of my favourites although it always makes me cry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8XQZYIiNgo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8XQZYIiNgo)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 09, 2017, 05:32:54 PM
Hello Brian!

Never heard that  song before, but when I saw the title Where Do You Go To My Lovely, it made me  think a song that was a hit during my time was  actually a remake, as the song opens with "where do you go, my lovely"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt-KMPvgKPo
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: brian on January 09, 2017, 07:34:12 PM
Hello Brian!

Never heard that  song before, but when I saw the title Where Do You Go To My Lovely, it made me  think a song that was a hit during my time was  actually a remake, as the song opens with "where do you go, my lovely"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt-KMPvgKPo
Hi Chuck

That is blocked in NZ due to copyright, so i will have to take your word for it. The Sarsted hit was 1969. It makes me think of "Bye Bye Miss American Pie" which was 1971. I guess those ballad type songs were in at the time. I loved most of them.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 09, 2017, 07:44:34 PM
Here's a fan made video, perhaps that will make a difference.

If not, oh well!  I tried!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrjtY9rMfwA
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: brian on January 09, 2017, 07:53:22 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrjtY9rMfwA
Yes it worked thanks. Ok more like the disco songs of the 80's. I am afraid I stopped listening to pop music in the 90's. We had a station here which played 50's and 70's but it seems to have disappeared so I just listen to classical radio now but sadly some of the death notices bring back the old greats for me. I do have some CDs and lots of reel to reel tapes (???) of those old songs but rarely think to play them (well am never likely to drag out the old reel to reel tape player although I did bring it to NZ (threw out the record player) but it and the tapes are at the top of a cupboard).
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 11, 2017, 10:53:24 AM
I watched President Obama's speech last night.  It was more poignant knowing what lies ahead.
Then the news comes on afterwards talking about Russia possibly having things they can use to
blackmail the incoming resident. Like video of assignations with prostitutes in Russia. Prostitutes
he used to perform golden showers on a bed that the current President and his wife had slept in.

With some friends at dinner last week, one of the guests brought along an acquaintance who is
an airline steward and has been for a long time. He is based out of New York and travels a lot of
out of country routes. When the topics became political he spoke up at one point and said, "You
know the rest of the world thinks we're (the U.S.) is a joke now. They don't take us seriously.
No respect."

Yay for "U.S."

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 11, 2017, 11:26:46 AM
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A Tearful Farewell: President Obama, Daughter Malia (and Even Joe Biden) Weep During Farewell Speech


Many were emotional while witnessing President Barack Obama make his farewell address, including the commander-in-chief himself.

Obama pulled out his handkerchief and wiped his eyes when speaking about his wife of 25 years, First Lady Michelle Obama.

“Michelle – Michelle LaVaughn Robinson, girl of the Southside, for the past 25 years, you’ve been not only my wife and mother of my children, but my best friend,” the president said. ...



http://people.com/politics/a-tearful-farewell-president-obama-daughter-malia-weep-during-farewell-speech/


 :(
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 11, 2017, 12:17:54 PM
Obama pulled out his handkerchief and wiped his eyes when speaking about his wife of 25 years, First Lady Michelle Obama.

I may miss her more than I miss him. I ain't jokin'. I think she's an amazing woman.

You know, they used to call Joe Biden "the third Senator from Pennsylvania." I'll miss him, too.

Of course I'll miss the President, too. A lot.

And, may God forgive me, but will somebody take out Mitch McConnell?* When he complains about the Democrats doing exactly what the Republicans did eight years ago, I so want to slap him silly.

*OK, just out of the Senate? Please?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 11, 2017, 12:31:30 PM
^^^^^^

I am so with you, Jeff. I have come to loathe that man and anytime I see him I get viscerally upset.
If I were ever around him I really think I'd haul off and slug him. Maybe he'd be more upset if I gave
him a big wet one on the mouth. Ditch Mitch. In any way possible.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 11, 2017, 12:48:44 PM
I may miss her more than I miss him. I ain't jokin'. I think she's an amazing woman.

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Oh come on Jeff, you can't see/feel the love here?   :D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 11, 2017, 12:51:34 PM
^^^^^^

Thanks for making me cringe.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 11, 2017, 12:52:11 PM
Jury condemns Dylann Roof to death for Charleston, S.C., church shooting that killed 9


A federal jury on Tuesday condemned unrepentant white supremacist Dylann Roof to death for the June 2015 massacre of nine black parishioners at a South Carolina Bible study class.

Roof stood stone-faced, showing no emotion, as U.S. District Judge Richard Gergel announced the jury's unanimous verdict, which came after about three hours of deliberation.

Relatives and friends of the victims were quiet. Some left court smiling and embracing....


http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-charleston-roof-sentencing-20170110-story.html



I actually think they gave him just what he wanted, I think life in prison without parole would have been a worse punishment..
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 11, 2017, 12:55:31 PM

The most amazing thing Trump said at his press conference this morning:

■ Mr. Trump was asked how he would reform the news media he criticizes frequently. “I don’t recommend reforms,” he said. “I recommend people that have some moral compass.” He added, “I will tell you, some of the media outlets that I deal with are fake news, more so than anybody.”

LOLOL!  Trump talks about people having a moral compass when he has none whatsoever.

He whines "FAKE NEWS!"

I say "FAKE PRESIDENT."


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 11, 2017, 01:36:58 PM
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Oh come on Jeff, you can't see/feel the love here?   :D

Ain't got nuttin' to do with my admiration for Michelle Obama.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 11, 2017, 01:58:12 PM
Born in the Socialist Republic of Slovenia, father  managed car and motorcycle dealerships, Mother was a patternmaker at the children's clothing manufacturer, grew up in a modest apartment in a housing block in Sevnica, in Slovenia's Lower Sava Valley.


From that to First Lady of the United States, that is something!


They say think Jackie Kennedy, not Eleanor Roosevelt, Hillary Clinton or Michelle Obama.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 11, 2017, 02:23:54 PM
All I can think of is "classless" and whoever "THEY" are to equate her with Jackie Kennedy don't have a clue as to what "THEY" are talking about.

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And these aren't even the raunchy ones.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 11, 2017, 02:27:18 PM

Agree, Linda. And there's still a question of whether she was borught here legally or not.
As is his pattern, during the campaign D.T. said he would have a press conference and
show us her papers. Didn't do it. Why? Probably the same thing as why he won't release
any tax returns.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 11, 2017, 02:29:26 PM
True, Lyle. These photo shoots were done while she had a visitor's visa, that specifically said she was not to make money while she was here, and I guarantee she did not do them for free.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 11, 2017, 02:32:25 PM
All I can think of is "classless" and whoever "THEY" are to equate her with Jackie Kennedy don't have a clue as to what "THEY" are talking about.


Umm that would be according to first-lady historians!   ::)


http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/2016/11/09/what-kind-first-lady-melania-trump/93547736/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 11, 2017, 02:40:46 PM

One of the main things that just gets me riled about the conservatives is akin to what
Jeff mentioned about Senator McConnell's two-faced hypocrisy.  When Kerry ran for
President the conservatives complained about it being unthinkable that John Kerry's
wife was -- egads! -- not born in the United States.  But Melanoma?  No problem!

How can you trust any group that lacks, like I mentioned above today, any moral compass.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 11, 2017, 02:49:37 PM
I guess, Linda, they weren't comparing Melania to her as someone with class, grace and dignity, but
someone preferring to stay behind the scenes and support her paycheck husband, as First Ladies
were more required to do in the past.

Regardless, it seems to me that in order to be The First Lady, one must first be a lady.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 11, 2017, 06:54:47 PM
Regardless, it seems to me that in order to be The First Lady, one must first be a lady.

Well, since you said that, Lyle, I'll stick my neck out and say, That's what I was thinking. I think there used to be a word for women who posed for photos like that, and lady it wasn't.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 11, 2017, 07:55:02 PM
Well, since you said that, Lyle, I'll stick my neck out and say, That's what I was thinking. I think there used to be a word for women who posed for photos like that, and lady it wasn't.

Well you know if we are going to put the women "in the news" let's not forget the men. Was just reading about Clinton's affairs when he was Governor and then there is this:


Then once he was in the White House, his promiscuousness didn't stop. There she was, Monica Lewinsky, a young good looking 21-year-old intern. She performed oral sex on Clinton in the oval office. She had a dress with a Clinton sperm stain on it. And Clinton took a cigar tube and inserted it into Lewinsky's vagina.

Once the news broke, Clinton adamantly denied any sexual activity with Lewinsky, later rebutting his story and admitting that it did in fact happen.



That ain't no gentleman!   But a good President by all accounts.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 12, 2017, 07:33:56 AM
Well you know if we are going to put the women "in the news" let's not forget the men. Was just reading about Clinton's affairs when he was Governor and then there is this:


Then once he was in the White House, his promiscuousness didn't stop. There she was, Monica Lewinsky, a young good looking 21-year-old intern. She performed oral sex on Clinton in the oval office. She had a dress with a Clinton sperm stain on it. And Clinton took a cigar tube and inserted it into Lewinsky's vagina.

Once the news broke, Clinton adamantly denied any sexual activity with Lewinsky, later rebutting his story and admitting that it did in fact happen.


That ain't no gentleman!   But a good President by all accounts.

That's for sure!

I never heard about the cigar tube before. ... Ick. ...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 12, 2017, 11:48:28 AM
Well you know if we are going to put the women "in the news" let's not forget the men.

Not, WE Bubba, it's YOU.  You are the only one who posts about Trump's family. I don't think anyone else
has brought them up but you, and then people comment on it.

If those things were a big knock against Bill Clinton, which is certainly true, and the Republicans dragged the
country through impeachment proceedings because of it, and thought it was the worst thing on earth
that could happen...why were they okay with Donald Trump's pussy grabbing, sexual assaults, and his, as I've
mentioned before, wife being born in another country and soft core porn and illegal immigrant status?  It's the
hypocrisy that's maddening.

By the way, there was so much made up things about the Clinton's during the campaign, what is the source
of your statement: "Was just reading about Clinton's affairs when he was Governor."

Also, any time someone makes a point about something why do you feel the need to counter it to balance it out
with an opposing statement, as though that makes it fair or something. Neither Bill Clinton's oval office affair, which
was consensual by the way, or Trump's treatment of women and bragging about assaulting them (and everything else
about him) is a good thing.

Bringing up Bill Clinton and what you've read about him, does not mean that any of the things we have posted about Melania
are any less valid just because you want to bring up a tit for tat with someone else.  You are doing precisely what Melania's
husband does. Someone points out a fact, he distracts with something else to avoid the truth.

Why don't you bring up your own Prime Minister's current problems, like his approving pipelines from the Alberta oil sands,
his family vacation in the Bahamas and the ethics investigation?


 
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 12, 2017, 12:00:37 PM
It's the hypocrisy that's maddening.

Yup.

I'm not sure why, but this reminds me of thoughts I had listening to President Obama's farewell speech. I had thoughts that a lot of what he was saying about politics and democracy was just a waste of wind, because the Republican idea of compromise is The other side gives in and they get their way. There is no working with people like that. And why should they compromise? They've got the White House and the majorities in the House and the Senate.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 12, 2017, 02:33:44 PM

I read this today and agree. It was in response to an article, which the last paragraph stated:

Since the election, the media and many Democratic politicians have wrung their hands over their failure to pay attention to the legitimate anger in the Trump-tilting parts of the country. And good for them.

But it’s time to remember that there are about 66 million Clinton voters who have a right to be angry, too.



The response:

Thank you for that last line, Gail. I'm one of those 66 million who are angry, and tired of hearing how Democrats need to start paying more attention to the white working class. In fact, it's exactly the opposite. That white working class (in which I was raised) needs to start paying attention to what the Democratic Party has been trying to do for them for eighty years. Do the words Social Security, Medicare, and minimum wage ring a bell? Instead, that white working class has been falling for the lies being peddled for the last thirty years by a Republican Party that has zero interest in helping them. Trump is the logical conclusion to this long campaign to get the working class fighting amongst itself--white against black, straight against gay, Christian against Muslim--so they don't notice the guys at the top are robbing them blind. And now we're supposed take responsibility for THEIR inability to recognize who is actually on their side, and their refusal to stop voting against their own interests? Please. You're damn right we're angry. They've done this to themselves. And now we ALL have to pay.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 12, 2017, 02:47:38 PM
Not, WE Bubba, it's YOU.  You are the only one who posts about Trump's family. I don't think anyone else
has brought them up but you, and then people comment on it.




All I can think of is "classless" and whoever "THEY" are to equate her with Jackie Kennedy don't have a clue as to what "THEY" are talking about.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-2aTUnkapezY/WCT9ewcBvGI/AAAAAAAABaI/LXZDXMn1CGgI0ti04_ZkINQe00njdpf2QCLcB/w1200-h630-p-nu/Melania%2BTrump%2Bnude%2BPhotos%2Bof%2BDonald%2BTrump%25E2%2580%2599s%2Bwife%2Bsurface%2Bfrom%2Bracy%2Bshoots.jpg)

And these aren't even the raunchy ones.


I am the only one bringing up Trumps family?   What do you call this Lyle and the posts after it..   I am simply saying why attack his wife - what has she done?  Calling her "melanoma".


She went to University - she modeled for fashion houses in Milan and Paris, she speaks six languages: Serbo-Croatian, English, French, Italian, German, and her native Slovene.


She appears to be a devoted wife and Mother!


And if you think it is okay for the President of the United States to have oral sex performed on him in the oval office, I am not sure what to tell ya..


Let me know when Trump acts like that once he becomes the President!


And for the 100th time I post other news stories, did yesterday, no one comments, they only want to talk about Trump, well should say complain about Trump..


As for Justin he went on a holiday with an old family friend, to his friends private island, last I checked that was not a crime and really no ones business!


P.S.

Applying as a model of "extraordinary ability", Melania obtained a green card and became a lawful permanent resident in 2001, and citizen in 2006.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 12, 2017, 04:52:12 PM
I am simply saying why attack his wife - what has she done?  Calling her "melanoma".

Sorry, Lyle, but I have been thinking that's a bit much.

Wait till she does something really stupid, like buy an obscenely expensive set of new china for the White House.  ;)

But I also don't think anybody said it's OK for the POTUS to get a blow job in the Oval Office.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Dave Cullen on January 12, 2017, 05:01:16 PM
I won’t miss listening to Joe Biden: too much schmaltz was for me. But he’s a good man, and that Medal of Freedom presentation was beautiful
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 12, 2017, 05:27:47 PM
Was just coming in to post that Dave..

Biden Surprised with Medal of Freedom as He Shares How Obama Saw Him Through Darkest Moments of His Son’s Illness


President Barack Obama paid tribute to Joe Biden in a surprise ceremony at the White House on Thursday, where he awarded the vice president the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

A tearful Biden was overcome with emotion as Obama placed the medal around his neck and the two leaders embraced.


http://people.com/politics/obama-awards-biden-presidential-medal-freedom/



And Michelle was serenaded by Stevie Wonder no less..


Watch Stevie Wonder's Glowing Tribute to Michelle Obama on 'Fallon'



Stevie Wonder appeared on The Tonight Show on Tuesday to celebrate Michelle Obama's time as First Lady. He dug up two standards from his back catalog – "Isn't She Lovely" and "My Cherie Amour" – and modified the lyrics of the second tune in Mrs. Obama's honor, declaring "You'll always be First Lady in our lives."


http://www.rollingstone.com/music/videos/watch-stevie-wonders-tribute-to-michelle-obama-on-fallon-w460732



Just a big love fest going on!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 12, 2017, 06:43:37 PM
Sorry, Lyle, but I have been thinking that's a bit much.

Wait till she does something really stupid, like buy an obscenely expensive set of new china for the White House.  ;)


you don't really think she's gonna live in that dump, do you?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 12, 2017, 06:53:24 PM
Public housing? Where minorities once lived? No way.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 12, 2017, 08:12:21 PM
you don't really think she's gonna live in that dump, do you?

I figure she'll redecorate it like the Trump Tower. Or the Taj Mahal.  ;)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 12, 2017, 10:33:28 PM
I guess, Linda, they weren't comparing Melania to her as someone with class, grace and dignity, but
someone preferring to stay behind the scenes and support her paycheck husband, as First Ladies
were more required to do in the past.

Regardless, it seems to me that in order to be The First Lady, one must first be a lady.


Absolutely, Lyle. And she is anything but.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 13, 2017, 08:56:52 AM
Sorry, Lyle, but I have been thinking that's a bit much.


Thing is Lyle is better than that... there are a few people here who are just plain mean/miserable, Lyle has never struck me that way.



..She would certainly break the mold, being the first third wife to occupy the White House, the first non-native speaker of English, and the first fluent in five languages – Slovenian, German, French, Serbian and English.

Contrary to popular belief she would not be the first foreign born – that was Louisa Adams, the English wife of sixth president John Quincy, who served from 1825 to 1829.

Nor would she be the first model – both Betty Ford and Pat Nixon worked as models, with Mrs Nixon using those skills to become the first first lady to appear publicly in trousers, and model them for a national magazine...



Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 13, 2017, 01:20:07 PM
I am the only one bringing up Trumps family?   What do you call this Lyle and the posts after it..

What I wrote was: I don't think anyone else has brought them up but you, and then people comment on it.
Linda was commenting on it because of your post. In other words, she wouldn't have been brought up at all if
you hadn't posted about her. "So it's all your fault." Comprendez-vous?

I am simply saying why attack his wife - what has she done?  Calling her "melanoma".

It's nothing that comedians haven't been doing for weeks, so, really, you guys are offended that I called Melania
"Melanoma?"  Where were all of you for two years at the things people were calling Hillary Clinton?    ...silence...

I was going to call Melania what a comedian did -- Malaria Trump, but decided to come up with my own.
By the way, I'm only emulating our p-elect.  What's good for the goose and all that... He just called our
patriotic intelligence agencies NAZI's. Sounds like a good working plan going forward.

She went to University - she modeled for fashion houses in Milan and Paris, she speaks six languages: Serbo-Croatian, English, French, Italian, German, and her native Slovene.

She appears to be a devoted wife and Mother!

I am glad you are enamored with her. I am not.  By the way, it's not been established that she actually was
"enrolled in University." Nor that she wasn't here working illegally.  Trump was supposed to show us her papers
last August, but he has such a short attention span, you know.

And if you think it is okay for the President of the United States to have oral sex performed on him in the oval office, I am not sure what to tell ya..

Show me where I said that?

Let me know when Trump acts like that once he becomes the President!

You haven't been paying attention previously?

I'll give him one thing.  He is unifying the country.
His approval rating right now, before he even enters office, is 37%.  His
disapproval rating is 63% of the U.S.  Makes you wonder how he got elected.
Or should I say: "Заставляет задуматься, как он был избран."

And for the 100th time I post other news stories, did yesterday, no one comments, they only want to talk about Trump, well should say complain about Trump.

You see nothing wrong with the p-elect?
Why wouldn't I talk about him if you give me and us the opportunity to reply to your posts
and I am very inclined to? Thanks for the outlet to do so.

As for Justin he went on a holiday with an old family friend, to his friends private island, last I checked that was not a crime and really no ones business!

Tell that to all the news people reporting about that and his other problems right now.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 13, 2017, 01:29:51 PM
I won’t miss listening to Joe Biden: too much schmaltz was for me.

No wonder you didn't care for La La Land.
___________

(By the way, dear readers, schmaltz has acquired a negative connotation to people over time, but it really
just means "excessive sentimentality, especially in music or movies."  But many people have different
tolerations of excessive. I don't find sentimentality a bad thing, even if excessive, only if it reads or feels
false, as Oilgun pointed out in a post on another thread.)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 13, 2017, 01:33:06 PM

I'll be spending inauguration day demonstrating against the incoming abomination
in downtown Los Angeles and Saturday morning with the women's march (men
welcome) to City Hall, too. Weather permitting, lol. At the moment we're appropriately
scheduled to have rain tears on the 20th.

___

For anyone interested, the DECADES TV channel is having some special programming:

Hosted by award-winning journalist Bill Kurtis, Inauguration Day Through the Decades is a historic and unique programming event presented by Decades, beginning on Thursday, January 19, at 7 am/ET and continuing through Saturday, January 21, at 10 am/ET. It begins with a special half-hour Through the Decades look at past inaugurations, featuring each President from Harry Truman through Barack Obama.

Through the Decades is followed by 14 inauguration speeches. Tapping the resources of the CBS News Archives, Decades will mark Inauguration Day by featuring the televised speeches of each President of the modern era. Viewers will see Presidents Kennedy (1), Johnson (1), Nixon (2), Carter (1), Reagan (2), Bush (1), Clinton (2), Bush (2), and Obama (2), and hear the historic inauguration speeches from each leader, just as they happened on Inauguration Day. This special seven-hour programming event will be rebroadcast continuously for two days.

Mercifully, it seems that each speech is condensed into a half-hour version of the best or most notable parts of the speeches.

See a complete program schedule at this link:

http://www.decades.com/articles/watch-presidential-inauguration-speeches-on-decades

On this page you can also find out where to watch on TV, or you can come
back to Decades.com on Thursday, January 19, to watch the speeches online.

If you want to see REAL Presidents instead of a FAKE one, that is.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 13, 2017, 02:06:59 PM
Umm no one on here was insulting Hillary that I saw, if they had called her a "melanoma" or whatever cancer rhymes with Hillary, I sure would have commented.

I have heard people on line refer to Ellen DeGeneres as Ellen Degenerate, does that strike you as funny Lyle?

I said I thought you were better than that, but I think the election has changed you, it's sad.


comprenez-vous?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Dave Cullen on January 13, 2017, 10:22:36 PM
No wonder you didn't care for La La Land.
___________


Oh brother. When you have to stretch that far . . . desperate. Sad.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Dave Cullen on January 13, 2017, 10:27:02 PM
I actually find Melania impressive in most ways, aside from marrying a buffoon. (Though she has apparently left him.)

The reports I get are that she's a very attentive mom and has her hands full raising their special-needs son, with the press has been keeping quiet. She walks him to school every day.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Dave Cullen on January 13, 2017, 10:34:05 PM
(By the way, dear readers, schmaltz has acquired a negative connotation to people over time, but it really
just means "excessive sentimentality..."

LOL. Your definition contradicts the acquired over time nonsense.

FYI:

Quote
Origin
1930s: from Yiddish shmaltz, from German Schmalz dripping, lard.

Nope, no negative connotation intended there. Just acquired over time. (Sarcasm.)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 14, 2017, 08:06:34 AM
I actually find Melania impressive in most ways, aside from marrying a buffoon.




A breath of fresh air and a voice of reason, the only point I was ever trying to make.  In a sea of hate..


She is a good Mother, appears to be and yes word is Baron may be autistic.



Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Dave Cullen on January 14, 2017, 09:22:33 AM
A breath of fresh air and a voice of reason, the only point I was ever trying to make.  In a sea of hate..


She is a good Mother, appears to be and yes word is Baron may be autistic.

I didn't realize word was seeping out about Baron's condition. I'm curious: where did you hear/read that?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 14, 2017, 10:35:20 AM
I have read it all over the place and of course the "infamous video", which I am not sure is on line any longer, I think it was taken down.  Here is a recent article:

http://www.smobserved.com/story/2016/12/25/lifestyle/is-barron-trump-autistic-some-dare-to-ask-whether-president-trumps-son-battles-autism/2305.html


I mean Trump is speaking out on Autism and vaccines, Melania is speaking out on bullying, cyber bulling of children and will make it one of her key issues as First Lady apparently.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 14, 2017, 11:43:07 AM
Oh brother. When you have to stretch that far . . . desperate. Sad.

With all due respect, Dave, you can wave your hand and use dismissive words to put me down,
like "sad" and "desperate." You can dismiss the definition of the word schmaltz I used by labeling
it "my definition" when it comes from a standard dictionary. You can point out that you are using
(sarcasm) as though I wouldn't get it, and dismiss my 'acquired over time' meaning of the word
as "nonsense," as though no word's meaning ever changes over time. What a gay notion.

I know that people have different tastes when it comes to films, or most anything really, and
that it's useless to try and change someone's opinion of a film they don't like, at least in the
moment, so I won't try to change yours, which you state almost as fact instead of opinion.

I find that if I don't like a film but audiences and/or critics really do, I give serious thought about
why that might be. Your blanket statements about La La Land are, in fact, opinions that most do
not share. Even the London critics, who often can be notoriously harsh on a film, embraced it when
it opened in Britain this weekend, I believe.

What's really sad is that their fatal review headlines (sarcasm) mean nothing to you and roll off your back like acid rain:

The Telegraph:
La La Land Review: You'll Leave with a Tear in Your Eye and a Song in Your Heart (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/la-la-land-review-ryan-gosling-emma-stone-will-leave-tear-eye/)

The Guardian:
La La Land  – Gosling and Stone Sparkle in a Gorgeous Musical Romance (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/jan/12/la-la-land-review-ryan-gosling-emma-stone-musical-romance-movie)

The Daily Mail:
La La Land: Uplifting, Charming and Sweetly Romantic (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4115280/La-La-Land-review-Uplifting-ucharming-sweetly-romantic.html)

Perhaps you are just a disciple of Mary Poppins:
"Practically perfect people never permit sentiment to muddle their thinking.”
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 14, 2017, 11:52:40 AM

I find that if I don't like a film but audiences and/or critics really do, I give serious thought about
why that might be.

Crash - best picture winner!

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1144992-crash/

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Dave Cullen on January 14, 2017, 12:47:57 PM
With all due respect, Dave, you can wave your hand and use dismissive words to put me down,
like "sad" and "desperate." You can dismiss the definition of the word schmaltz I used by labeling
it "my definition" when it comes from a standard dictionary. You can point out that you are using
(sarcasm) as though I wouldn't get it, and dismiss my 'acquired over time' meaning of the word
as "nonsense," as though no word's meaning ever changes over time. What a gay notion.


So much BS, word-twisting and mind reading--and martyrdom!--in such a short space. Enough said. Definitely not worth unraveling all that misinformation.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Dave Cullen on January 14, 2017, 12:49:00 PM
Crash - best picture winner!

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1144992-crash/

hahaha. well said!

i happen to hate that film, and i couldn't care less that some lavished praised on it.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Dave Cullen on January 14, 2017, 12:59:41 PM
I have read it all over the place and of course the "infamous video", which I am not sure is on line any longer, I think it was taken down.  Here is a recent article:

http://www.smobserved.com/story/2016/12/25/lifestyle/is-barron-trump-autistic-some-dare-to-ask-whether-president-trumps-son-battles-autism/2305.html


I mean Trump is speaking out on Autism and vaccines, Melania is speaking out on bullying, cyber bulling of children and will make it one of her key issues as First Lady apparently.

Interesting. Thanks. I had no idea that was out there. (Though I shouldn't be surprised. Everything leaks now.)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 14, 2017, 01:36:00 PM
So much BS, word-twisting and mind reading--and martyrdom!--in such a short space. Enough said.
Definitely not worth unraveling all that misinformation.

Wow, such hostility and dismissiveness.  :o
I do not accept dismissal as a tactic like the p-elect does. As someone remarked
who PM'd me, you really don't have much of a sense of humor, do you? I really think
you are talking about yourself in the above quote.  Is "Miss Information" your drag name?    ;)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Dave Cullen on January 14, 2017, 01:54:22 PM
I have had years watching you trying to ensnare people into your petty games, Lyle. (Your most comical being your attempt to pawn off your assessments on some mysterious, anonymous PMer. If you think no one can figure out that the bait is to wonder whether that's your imaginary friend, or some actual person, and if so, Oh my! Who doesn't like me, and confides their secrets only to Lyle!

No one cares, Lyle. And you're not fooling anyone. Everyone here knows your silly games. I'm sure some are still taking the bait; I'm not interested.

I had forgotten though, that the only way to deal with your posts was try to look past them. Many members have requested a mute feature, and it comes in handy on twitter, but alas, our software company still does not offer it. I had forgotten I had to try to do it personally for a handful of members, you being at the top of the list.

Thanks for the reminder. If I can be disciplined, I won't read another word you write--until yet another complaint comes to me and I'm forced. Bye. Good luck with therapy.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 14, 2017, 03:13:25 PM
I actually find Melania impressive in most ways, aside from marrying a buffoon. (Though she has apparently left him.)

Hunh? Is this supposed to be the real reason she's staying in New York, instead of so the boy can finish the school year?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 14, 2017, 03:22:17 PM
I have had years watching you trying to ensnare people into your petty games, Lyle. (Your most comical being your attempt to pawn off your assessments on some mysterious, anonymous PMer. If you think no one can figure out that the bait is to wonder whether that's your imaginary friend, or some actual person, and if so, Oh my! Who doesn't like me, and confides their secrets only to Lyle!

No one cares, Lyle. And you're not fooling anyone. Everyone here knows your silly games. I'm sure some are still taking the bait; I'm not interested.

I had forgotten though, that the only way to deal with your posts was try to look past them. Many members have requested a mute feature, and it comes in handy on twitter, but alas, our software company still does not offer it. I had forgotten I had to try to do it personally for a handful of members, you being at the top of the list.

Thanks for the reminder. If I can be disciplined, I won't read another word you write--until yet another complaint comes to me and I'm forced. Bye. Good luck with therapy.

Not that anyone cares and not that Dave will be reading this, but I'm replying anyway.

First, if someone says a person doesn't have a sense of humor, it doesn't necessarily follow that said person doesn't like them,
but nice tactic, either trying to get me to reveal sources, or calling me out as a liar. I guess I opened myself up for that. But I'll
agree with the assessment, and you proved my point with that post, so I'll take full responsibility. If you actually want to verify
the source of the PM, don't the moderators have the capacity to get into those forbidden areas, I recall being told that once by
one of them?

I could also throw the same thing back at you, too, saying you've got yet "another complaint about me."
From "some mysterious PMer's?" Imaginary friend? Actual person?

As for "ensnaring people into petty games" -- it's true I tend to argue my points incessantly, especially on current events,
and I'm guessing it provokes some when I keep at it, but it's not out of trying to play games with anyone; petty, silly or otherwise.

Let me know when you're in town promoting your book when it comes out.  I'd like to buy you some drinks.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 14, 2017, 04:46:06 PM
Not that anyone cares and not that Dave will be reading this, but I'm replying anyway.

As my dad would say, "Ho--lee cow." Lyle, I wouldn't want to see you "muted."

I am surprised to see that kind of personal attack from Dave Cullen. Maybe I shouldn't be, but I am.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 14, 2017, 05:33:09 PM
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Well Toby Keith is in!


Toby Keith doesn't give a damn what the haters think ... he says his Donald Trump Inauguration performance isn't a personal favor, it's for the good ole U.S. of A.

Keith has faced a ton of backlash since it was announced Friday he'd be part of a show at The Lincoln Memorial the night before Trump is sworn in. However, Keith is sticking to his guns, saying, "I don't apologize for performing for our country or military," in an interview with EW.

In fact, Trump isn't the only Prez Toby's played for ... he backs up his stance by naming shows he did for both George Bush and President Obama, not to mention the 200 he's played for the armed forces.



Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Dave Cullen on January 14, 2017, 06:50:52 PM
As my dad would say, "Ho--lee cow." Lyle, I wouldn't want to see you "muted."

I am surprised to see that kind of personal attack from Dave Cullen. Maybe I shouldn't be, but I am.

If it wasn't clear, you wouldn't see anyone muted. I'm referring to a feature were a member can individually mute another so they don't see their posts, like on twitter and many others. It wouldn't affect you.

You have a different perspective. I have a decade of dealing with his accusations and innuendo, and frustrated by him doing it again right now on multiple threads. In retrospect, I should have done it by PM rather than publicly. I apologize for that aspect.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 14, 2017, 10:27:05 PM

Since it is public, I am stating that if anyone is wondering what accusations and innuendo is being talking about,
the last ten years no less, so am I.

As for recently, I merely posted one disagreement on the Most Anticipated Film Thread, I made no accusations or
anything else. On the current events thread I was accused of being desperate and sad, being a liar, playing games,
writing BS, word twisting, mind reading, supplying misinformation, playing petty and/or silly games and being a martyr.
Not to mention advised to seek therapy. And I wasn't going to respond to those attacks?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 15, 2017, 01:04:10 PM
You have a different perspective. I have a decade of dealing with his accusations and innuendo, and frustrated by him doing it again right now on multiple threads. In retrospect, I should have done it by PM rather than publicly. I apologize for that aspect.

Time goes quickly. I've been around here longer than you might think--longer than I might remember.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 15, 2017, 01:37:07 PM

Celebs celebrate the closure of Ringling Bros. circus with PETA activist Pamela Anderson claiming victory that the 'saddest show on earth' is finishing after 146 years

    The famous circus will have its final show in May, it was announced on Saturday

    Ticket sales rapidly declined after elephants were taken out of the show last May

    The show has been a staple of American family entertainment since the 1800s

    Celebrities and animal rights activists are celebrating the news about it closing

    Baywatch star Pamela Anderson, who is an outspoken animal rights activist tweeted 'IT'S OVER' while sharing a statement from PETA


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4122508/Celebs-celebrate-closure-Ringling-Bros-circus-PETA-activist-Pamela-Anderson-claiming-victory-saddest-earth-finishing-146-years.html#ixzz4VrfsRRQv
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Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 15, 2017, 01:58:00 PM

We're only days away from the unthinkable, and NYT columnist Paul Krugman
(and Nobel Prize winning economist) isn't soothing anyone's anxieties over that:

Friday he said, "We are, I'd argue, in much deeper and more treacherous waters
than even the pessimists are saying."


Yikes!

He believes because of the even more recent revelations about Russia's hacking
and FBI director Comey's involvement in the campaign, that more and more people
consider the past election was tainted. (He didn't even mention Congressman John
Lewis publicly stating this and refusing to go to the inauguration. Not to mention that
the p-elect has nevr said anything bad or negative about Russia and yet has called the
intelligence agencies he'll be relying on "Nazi's.")

Krugman says, "A clever, self-controlled Trump would be careful now to preserve appearances and wait for revenge; but instead he's confirming his status as Putin's poodle/stooge with every tweet." "Pretty soon everyone will think of him as a Manchurian candidate, even those pretending not to."

In Krugman's assessment, once the idea takes hold that Trump's election was tainted, there are few options for how it could play out in a positive way.

From Krugman: "Yet there is no normal political mechanism to deal with this reality. So what happens? The GOP decides to impeach to install Pence? Mass people-power demonstrations? He orders the military to do something illegal and we have disobedience by the national security state? Or, alternatively, overt intimidation of critics by Trump gangs? Don't call this silly — tell me how this ends."

More HERE (http://www.businessinsider.com/krugman-trump-us-future-2017-1?utm_source=referral&utm_medium=aol).
___

All's well that ends well...if it does.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 16, 2017, 09:11:11 AM
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Happy Martin Luther King day!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 16, 2017, 10:44:48 AM
Happy Dr Martin Luther King's Birthday, y'all!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngFDy52eCZY

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Dave Cullen on January 16, 2017, 11:18:41 AM
It's been really bothering me that some of my journo colleagues have been joining Trump in trash-talking Buzzfeed as a garbage site (using various terms like that).

I get why some journos disagree with their decision on publishing the long, unverified report on Trump and the Russians, and I think both sides of that debate have very valid points. It's reasonable to see BuzzFeed as making a terrible choice here.

But then piling on and characterizing them as garbage--that's just nuts. BuzzFeed started out publishing silly stuff and continues to do that, driving huge traffic and earning a ton of money. But very early on, they started plowing much of that money into a really serious news operation, and hired some of the best in the business. They have foreign operations that would shame many "legitimate" brand-name news outlets. They do great stuff--whether or not you agree with them in this case.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 16, 2017, 01:20:17 PM

Does anyone seriously think that if something similar about President Obama or Hillary Clinton had been
dredged up like that it wouldn't have been out there for all to see?

So called legitimate news organizations have been putting out stories about Obama's fake birth certificate
for eight years, most notably the p-elect who said he had verifiable sources. What's good for the goose?
What goes around comes around?  In some replies to the press about untrue stories that the p-elect
spouted during the campaign his reply was, "All I know is what I read on the internet."  How many fake
news stories about Hillary Clinton's health did the press float about all summer?

The Republicans have been muddying the waters with this for years, putting out unsubstantiated things
that might be, could be, possibly be, have a ring of truth or possibility, so as to get people to distrust even
facts they are hearing. "It could be some 400 pound man sitting in a bed after all, so don't believe everything
you hear."

I don't know if BuzzFeed should have put that online or not, but I do not care that they did, either.  They never
said it was verified information. Which, brings to my mind, how can something not verified, meaning it could be
actually true, be "fake"?  If it's unverified it could be true. It could not be.  So isn't labeling it fake a judgment that
might be wrong, too?

Perhaps many news organizations are just jealous that BuzzFeed published it.  If you look at surveys of conservatives
and Trump supporters in particular, they believe a lot of fake things and it gets reported.  Three million illegal immigrants
voted illegally for Hillary. Obama is a muslim.  Obama wasn't born in the U.S.  Trump knows more about Isis than the
generals and he alone can fix it.

In this season of fake news, we are going to have a fake president.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 16, 2017, 03:06:32 PM
I hate fake news, it really has gotten out of control..  anyway like I said Happy Martin Luther King day!


We must accept finite disappointment, but never lose infinite hope. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Dave Cullen on January 16, 2017, 03:25:13 PM
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Happy Martin Luther King day!

I'll second that. :)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on January 16, 2017, 07:41:23 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38645787

Thank God.
Another one down.How many more to go ?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 17, 2017, 09:30:56 AM
The LAPD will be massively out in force Friday, bracing for what they believe could be large, unruly crowds protesting the beginning of the Trump presidency.

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ, LAPD cops will have riot gear at the ready as they try to control the various demonstrations they are expecting.

As for how much police will tolerate ... not a lot. We're told if demonstrators try to block traffic, freeways or vandalize anything ... they'll be arrested.

And, we're told, there will be special focus on social media, which could set the direction of the protests.

There are certain locations that will get special police attention ... the Federal Building in Westwood, Hollywood and Highland and freeways.

Our sources say cops are mindful of the constitutional right of demonstrators to protest ... they just can't cross the line.


http://www.tmz.com/2017/01/17/trump-inauguration-lapd-protests-riots/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Dave Cullen on January 17, 2017, 10:49:20 AM
I have decided to also not attend the inauguration.  ;D

(Or any of the inaugural balls I was not invited to.)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 17, 2017, 11:00:06 AM
The LAPD will be massively out in force Friday, bracing for what they believe could be large, unruly crowds protesting the beginning of the Trump presidency.

^^^

That sounds ominous.  :)  There were protests when G.W. Bush took office the first time, because
of the electoral circumstances, but there wasn't any trouble.  I'm sure Los Angeles isn't the only
city that is having demonstrations, either.

L.A. Weekly (http://www.laweekly.com/news/how-to-protest-trump-and-support-immigrants-on-inauguration-day-7791523) says:

City records show the Los Angeles Police Department has granted at least three special-events permits for marches downtown on Jan. 20.  All three marches are scheduled to converge at around 1 p.m. in front of City Hall.

The LAPD special events calendar indicates there will be a rally starting at 10 a.m. at Broadway and Olympic. That march will be convened by a group called the Full Rights for Immigrants Coalition, which will likewise march to City Hall. A group called CA for Progress is calling for a "United Against Hate-Inauguration March" downtown from 11 a.m. on. The specific location has not been announced, but some sources indicate this will be part of the Immigrants Coalition just mentioned. The California Latino Congreso is calling for an Inauguration Day rally at 1 p.m. at this same location, the corner of Broadway and Olympic Boulevard in downtown L.A. The Latino Congreso is an alliance of immigrant advocates and supporters including L.A. City Councilmembers Herb Wesson and Gilbert A. Cedillo. After the rally, supporters will march to City Hall. In Boyle Heights, community activists will convene a rally at 11 a.m. in Mariachi Plaza, at Boyle Avenue and First Street.  After the rally in Mariachi Plaza, protesters will march through Boyle Heights and across the river to La Plaza Olvera, then on to join the Latino Congreso protest at City Hall.

The swearing-in of Donald Trump has elicited other calls for political protest in L.A., in addition to the marches for immigrant rights:

There will be a "Rally to Save Roe" on the day before Inauguration Day, Jan. 19, at 4 p.m. on Fairfax Avenue between Clinton Street and Rosewood Avenue, according to LAPD's special-events calendar.

And on the day after Inauguration Day, on Jan. 21, there will be a "Women's March" gathering in Pershing Square at 9 a.m. and departing for a march to City Hall at 10 am.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 17, 2017, 11:04:26 AM

But...the weather might put a damper on everything here in Los Angeles.  We literally have not had significant rainfall in
Southern California for the past 7 years. This year we're actually having some rain occasionally!  The National Weather
Service today says, "A round of three storms will take aim at California this week and this weekend. Each storm will bring
locally drenching rain and heavy mountain snow, with the potential for flooding and travel disruptions.

HERE THEY COME...

(https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/california_imerg_rain_31dec15-6jan16_0.jpg)


"The first storm will spread southward through California on Wednesday and Thursday with a second to follow Friday,
lingering into Saturday. A third storm will swing in Sunday and may have major impacts that linger into Tuesday.
Incidents of urban flooding are likely in Sacramento, San Francisco, Los Angeles and San Diego, California. They
may have a significant impact as far east as Palm Springs and Las Vegas."

As our local NBC weatherman said last night, "We're expecting three storms, but it will more likely
seem to you like one long storm from Wednesday night to Tuesday morning!"

I'm sure that this will lessen the turnout of the Los Angeles demonstrations.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 17, 2017, 11:05:56 AM
I've taken a half day Friday to go here...if i don't go home first...odds of me leaving after being home are slim...

Thousands expected to protest Trump at Auditorium Shores
As Inauguration Day nears, more than 40 local organizations are preparing for a march and rally next Friday in downtown Austin that’s expected to draw more than 3,500 anti-Donald Trump protesters to Auditorium Shores.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 17, 2017, 11:07:53 AM
I have decided to also not attend the inauguration.  ;D

(Or any of the inaugural balls I was not invited to.)


LOL now you tell me, I was suppose to be your date, what I am suppose to do with that dress I paid 10 grand for?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 17, 2017, 11:20:18 AM

If you do go, Nancy, let us know what it was like.

Yesterday, Reince Priebus tried to tell us all that Republicans never questioned the
legitimacy of President Obama.  I guess the Republican party and Trump's whole
years long birther thing was just an expression of support.

The biggest reason to demonstrate at all, if one has any inclination to do so, is
that it really just irks the Donald not to be liked and thought of in the grandest
light. He could have a mental breakdown. As Seth Myers hinted, "so Trump will
be inaugurated on Friday and then Mike Pence will be inaugurated on Monday."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 17, 2017, 11:24:25 AM
I both look forward to and dread the first time he is stopped from doing something he wants done...the 16 year old girl will come out in him and he'll look like a fool. 

I still can't imagine: one week from being sworn in as president, and he's on twitter about SNL.  Every day it seems he gets more and more away from reality...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 17, 2017, 11:45:47 AM
^^^
Yes,  I guess we're in for: "fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy night."


I heard an amusing enough joke.

"What are they serving to eat at Trump's inaugural ball?"

"The guests will dine on Pasta Putinesca."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 17, 2017, 11:59:03 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/e7/9c/3b/e79c3b3b1ac08b11a2b194e6fc1e926d.jpg)


President Trump: The Inauguration

4pm, BBC One/ STV

"After a long absence, The Twilight Zone returns with one of the most ambitious, expensive and controversial productions in broadcast history. Sci-fi writers have dabbled often with alternative history stories - among the most common is the "What If The Nazis Had Won The Second World War" setting - but this huge interactive virtual reality project, which will unfold on TV, in the press, and on Twitter over the next four years, sets out to build an ongoing alternative present.

The story begins in a nightmarish version of 2017 in which huge sections of the US electorate have somehow been duped into voting to make Donald Trump president. It sounds far-fetched, and it is, but as it goes on it becomes more and more chillingly plausible. Today's feature-length opener concentrates on the gaudy inauguration of President Trump, and the stirrings of protest and despair surrounding the ceremony, while pundits speculate gravely on what lies ahead. It's a flawed piece, but a disturbing glimpse of the horrors we could stumble into, if we're not careful."




 :laugh:

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 17, 2017, 01:08:27 PM

LOL now you tell me, I was suppose to be your date, what I am suppose to do with that dress I paid 10 grand for?

If you left the tags on it, I'm sure you can return it.  ;D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 17, 2017, 01:13:31 PM
I both look forward to and dread the first time he is stopped from doing something he wants done...the 16 year old girl will come out in him and he'll look like a fool.

Agreed! 

Quote
I still can't imagine: one week from being sworn in as president, and he's on twitter about SNL.  Every day it seems he gets more and more away from reality...

I remember the fuss to make Obama give up his Blackberry for security reasons. Isn't anybody trying to stop this buffoon from tweeting?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 17, 2017, 03:18:51 PM
As of noon Eastern this coming Friday, Bedford Falls officially becomes Pottersville, though the seeds were planted quite a while ago.

https://pab58.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/pottersville.png

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 17, 2017, 03:20:10 PM

I remember the fuss to make Obama give up his Blackberry for security reasons. Isn't anybody trying to stop this buffoon from tweeting?


The GOP has controlled the parameters of the argument for quite a while now. Let's hope even they won't be able to stomach it much longer.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 17, 2017, 04:05:45 PM
As of noon Eastern this coming Friday, Bedford Falls officially becomes Pottersville, though the seeds were planted quite a while ago.

https://pab58.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/pottersville.png



Totally agree, Fritz!! What a great analogy!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 17, 2017, 04:11:07 PM
I get emails from MoveOn.org, and this is link for the Sister Marches all over the world.

https://www.womensmarch.com/sisters?source=moveon

Sister Marches are solidarity events inspired by the Women's March on Washington, and organized by volunteers around the world. If you can't make it to Washington, D.C. on January 21, join or host a Sister March near you.

NUMBER OF MARCHES: 616                            SISTER MARCHERS (EST): 1,032,110


The above numbers change by the minute.

New Mexico is having seven in the whole state. I will be attending the one in Albuquerque.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 17, 2017, 04:12:39 PM
Neighbors and I will be on the Mall Saturday.

At least one of my coworkers will be there too, with the American Association of University Women.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 17, 2017, 04:39:28 PM
The GOP has controlled the parameters of the argument for quite a while now. Let's hope even they won't be able to stomach it much longer.

Yes, but will they be able to make him stop? I'm sure if they try he'll throw a fit.

(I was about to write "throw a fit like a teenage girl," but I don't want to insult teenage girls.)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 17, 2017, 04:42:10 PM
Impeachment with conviction is one method!

Then they get Pence, whom they've wanted all along.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 17, 2017, 06:18:50 PM
But...the weather might put a damper on everything here in Los Angeles.  We literally have not had significant rainfall in
Southern California for the past 7 years. This year we're actually having some rain occasionally!  The National Weather
Service today says, "A round of three storms will take aim at California this week and this weekend. Each storm will bring
locally drenching rain and heavy mountain snow, with the potential for flooding and travel disruptions.

HERE THEY COME...

(https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/california_imerg_rain_31dec15-6jan16_0.jpg)


"The first storm will spread southward through California on Wednesday and Thursday with a second to follow Friday,
lingering into Saturday. A third storm will swing in Sunday and may have major impacts that linger into Tuesday.
Incidents of urban flooding are likely in Sacramento, San Francisco, Los Angeles and San Diego, California. They
may have a significant impact as far east as Palm Springs and Las Vegas."

As our local NBC weatherman said last night, "We're expecting three storms, but it will more likely
seem to you like one long storm from Wednesday night to Tuesday morning!"

I'm sure that this will lessen the turnout of the Los Angeles demonstrations.


I've heard the drought situation in California has really dropped from dangerous levels to more manageable now.  Will any of these three storms hit areas that still really need water?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on January 17, 2017, 06:23:41 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-38645787

Thank God.
Another one down.How many more to go ?

Does *NOTHING* knock Trump off the front page ?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 17, 2017, 07:01:45 PM
Does *NOTHING* knock Trump off the front page ?

Probably not, not when he is days away from being the next President of the United States and when he says NATO is obsolete.   8)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 17, 2017, 07:02:34 PM
If you left the tags on it, I'm sure you can return it.  ;D


 ;D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 17, 2017, 08:18:17 PM
Impeachment with conviction is one method!

I rather doubt you can be impeached and convicted for tweeting. ...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 18, 2017, 05:47:56 AM
Obama's last big mistake

WikiLeaks celebrates Chelsea Manning's commutation
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Dave Cullen on January 18, 2017, 09:25:22 AM
I get emails from MoveOn.org, and this is link for the Sister Marches all over the world.

https://www.womensmarch.com/sisters?source=moveon

Sister Marches are solidarity events inspired by the Women's March on Washington, and organized by volunteers around the world. If you can't make it to Washington, D.C. on January 21, join or host a Sister March near you.

NUMBER OF MARCHES: 616                            SISTER MARCHERS (EST): 1,032,110


The above numbers change by the minute.

New Mexico is having seven in the whole state. I will be attending the one in Albuquerque.

nice.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Dave Cullen on January 18, 2017, 09:26:03 AM
Obama's last big mistake

WikiLeaks celebrates Chelsea Manning's commutation

seemed like a good move to me. she's suffered enough. seven years is much more than a lot of others got. (eg, David Patreus.)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 18, 2017, 09:39:58 AM
I was just going to say "wasn't that a good thing"  ::)


Dalai Lama: 5 things to keep in mind for the next four years

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/18/health/dalai-lama-guide-to-surviving-trump/index.html


I like this one:


"Constant anger is very bad for our health," His Holiness said. "I try to keep compassion" constantly in mind and then stay "surrounded by (other) compassionate people" that can reduce your anger. Do that and your health will be "much better."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 18, 2017, 10:05:21 AM
"Constant anger is very bad for our health," His Holiness said.

That is most certainly true.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 18, 2017, 11:49:33 AM

Yes, constant anger fueled the rise of the Tea Party. That anger led to huge
gains in Congress by the Republicans in 2010 and that anger ultimately led
to an angry candidate and his election to office. This years long constant anger
has been bad for our country's health indeed.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 18, 2017, 11:56:33 AM
Obama's last big mistake

WikiLeaks celebrates Chelsea Manning's commutation

I was surprised to hear this, but I don't think it was a mistake. Some people
are conflating this with being pardoned. Manning wasn't pardoned, the very
extreme sentence was just being commuted, so it's not as though Manning was
being found innocent of the charges.

Whether one agrees with the action or not, why would it be a mistake?

(I heard some reporters saying it was more of an act of mercy and the
lawyer believed it saved Manning's life.)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 18, 2017, 12:57:05 PM
I get emails from MoveOn.org, and this is link for the Sister Marches all over the world.

https://www.womensmarch.com/sisters?source=moveon


We're planning to attend the one in Downtown L.A., but I see there is one in Beverly Hills, too,
which I didn't know about.  If the projected weather is severe, as they say it might be, this option
would be easier to go to, so thanks for the link, Linda.

(http://www.democraticstuff.com/resize/Shared/Images/Product/Dump-on-Trump-Anti-Trump-2-25-Button-clone/dont-blame-me.png)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 18, 2017, 12:57:45 PM

Speaking of the weather:

I've heard the drought situation in California has really dropped from dangerous levels to more manageable now.  Will any of these three storms hit areas that still really need water?

Hi, Chuck, well...in an article I read today there was this sentence, "Drought conditions persist in Southern California, but in the north, it's near over, for now anyway.

(http://www.catholic.org/files/images/ins_news/2017013454.jpg)
Caption for this photo: Northern California has been
inundated with rain and snow, which is flooding some
rivers and filling basins that have been dry for years.

Northern California benefitted from El Nino last winter whereas Southern California got none which
puzzled all the meteorologists. The year after an El Nino year there's usually a La Nina which was
worrying them because that would usually mean a dry winter.  But Southern California has been
getting rain this winter, in fact we're above the average this year already, which still isn't what
most of you in other parts of the country would think was a lot.  And what they call "the pineapple
express" is coming this week.  That's a series of conditions when water from around Hawaii in the
Pacific is brought up into the atmosphere and carried to the West Coast in a series of storms. I read
that the amount of water these storms carry can be more than contained in the entire Mississippi river!

So it is certainly helping SoCal and the rest of California, but the state announced Tuesday they are
keeping the conservation rules in place and will re-evaluate them later in the year.

The worry in SoCal this week is that because of the 7 years we've had no rain, all the plants and
trees and whatever that haven't been getting much water don't have a good hold on the soil with
their root systems, so excessive rain can just saturate it quickly and the earth will give way. We
already had someone's backyard topple down a hill into Laurel Canyon Blvd. and cause the road
to be closed for several days. (That's the winding road that connects West Hollywood to the valley
(Studio City).  Mario Lopez tweeted pictures of his backyard caving in from somewhere up there,
too.  Plus, very few people have checked all their rain gutters for years. When we had a good rain
recently we discovered our apartment building's system quickly got clogged with dirt and mud.

Since it has been so rare for years, I am loving it, though!

(https://i0.wp.com/www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sjm-water-0118-web.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 18, 2017, 01:30:43 PM

We're planning to attend the one in Downtown L.A., but I see there is one in Beverly Hills, too,
which I didn't know about.  If the projected weather is severe, as they say it might be, this option
would be easier to go to, so thanks for the link, Linda.

(http://www.democraticstuff.com/resize/Shared/Images/Product/Dump-on-Trump-Anti-Trump-2-25-Button-clone/dont-blame-me.png)



Glad to help, Lyle!!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 18, 2017, 02:04:25 PM
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Barbara Bush Admitted to Hospital as President George H.W. Bush Remains in ICU


Former First Lady Barbara Bush has been admitted to the hospital as a “precaution” as her husband, former President George H. W. Bush, remains in the ICU after he was hospitalized over the weekend for “shortness of breath.”

According to a statement from the office of the 92-year-old former commander-in-chief — tweeted by his post-White House spokesman Jim McGrath — Barbara was admitted to the Houston Methodist Hospital Wednesday morning “as a precaution after experiencing fatigue and coughing.”

Meanwhile, the former president is “stable and resting comfortably in the ICU, where he will remain for observation” at the same hospital. It was stated that the 41st president underwent a procedure to address “an acute respiratory problem stemming from pneumonia.”..




    George H.W. Bush sent letter to Trump on Jan. 10 stating he couldn't attend Inauguration: "We will be with you and the country in spirit." pic.twitter.com/zcoieQJmP6

    — ABC News (@ABC) January 18, 2017



http://people.com/politics/barbara-bush-hospitalized-george-hw-bush-remains-in-icu/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 18, 2017, 02:10:21 PM

I mentioned this once before at some point in the past, but I still find this fact pretty
amazing. President Clinton served two full terms in office and he was followed by
President G. W. Bush who served two full terms and when President Obama leaves
office this Friday, he will have served two full terms as well.

It seems like this wouldn't be so unusual in our history, but it hasn't happened in nearly
200 years!  The last time we had three successive two term Presidents they were Thomas
Jefferson, James Madison and James Monroe, way back in the first quarter of the 1800's!

With the past three two-term presidents, when most people attended college, there was one
President who served during those 4 years they were in college. Today I was thinking that when
I went to college, during those 4 years there were 3 Presidents and 4 Vice-Presidents!

When I went to college, Nixon was President and Spiro Agnew Vice-President. Agnew resigned
and Gerald Ford became Vice-President. Nixon resigned and Ford became President. Ford chose
Nelson Rockefeller to be Vice-President. We then had an election and Jimmy Carter became the
President and Walter Mondale the Vice-President. Talk about current events!



Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 19, 2017, 11:31:26 AM
Donald Trump and First Lady-to-be Melania have touched down in their new home, and they made quite the arrival.

The Prez-elect and his whole family -- all of his kids, their spouses, his grandkids -- plus various aides just walked off a military jet (Air Force One is still at least a day away) at Andrews Air Force Base.

They've got a busy day ahead -- the traditional wreath-laying ceremony and then the Make America Great Again Welcome Concert.

Then there's something happening Friday, or so we hear.


 :laugh:


www.tmz.com/2017/01/19/donald-trump-and-family-arrive-in-dc/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 19, 2017, 11:35:27 AM
Then there's something happening Friday, or so we hear.

 :laugh:


 :laugh:

I know there's nothing funny going on here, yet, somehow, the idea of the whole clan trooping into Washington strikes me as ... funny.  ::)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 19, 2017, 11:47:58 AM
:laugh:

I know there's nothing funny going on here, yet, somehow, the idea of the whole clan trooping into Washington strikes me as ... funny.  ::)

Exactly, me too, all I can think of is this for some reason:


(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/a3/ef/20/a3ef202fbe0bcce515bf3934c3f67fd5.jpg)


 :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 19, 2017, 12:44:57 PM
Exactly, me too, all I can think of is this for some reason:


(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/a3/ef/20/a3ef202fbe0bcce515bf3934c3f67fd5.jpg)


 :laugh:

Come and listen to my story 'bout a man named Trump. ...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 19, 2017, 02:49:58 PM

Nothing about what is happening or is about to happen strikes me as even remotely amusing.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 19, 2017, 04:45:06 PM
Nothing about what is happening or is about to happen strikes me as even remotely amusing.

"If I laugh, it is but that I may not cry."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 19, 2017, 06:08:25 PM
Nancy Sinatra not happy Trump using father's song at inauguration
By Caroline Kenny, CNN
Updated 12:20 PM ET, Thu January 19, 2017

Washington (CNN)Famed singer Frank Sinatra's eldest daughter, Nancy Sinatra, has never been a fan of President-elect Donald Trump.

Now that he's about the assume the presidency, the younger Sinatra let the world know how she feels about one of her father's famous songs being used in the inauguration festivities.

According to inauguration chairman Tom Barrack, Trump and his wife, Melania, have selected "My Way" by Frank Sinatra for their first dance as the first couple at the Liberty Ball on Inauguration Day.

Nancy Sinatra, when asked for a response about the song selection on Twitter, said: "Just remember the first line of the song."

The first line of the song is, "And now, the end is near."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics/nancy-sinatra-donald-trump-my-way/ (http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics/nancy-sinatra-donald-trump-my-way/)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 19, 2017, 06:50:15 PM
May the first line be prophetic.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 19, 2017, 08:28:10 PM

Anti-Trump Rally Cops Fire Pepper Spray ... Trump Supporters Attacked




Police and anti-Donald Trump protesters are clashing in a rally that began outside the Trump International Hotel in Washington D.C.

The protest started at the hotel, and then marched through D.C. to the National Press Club several blocks away. Once there ... pepper spray was fired into the crowd, and protesters started trying to break through police lines.


http://www.tmz.com/2017/01/19/anti-trump-rally-washington-dc-violence/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 20, 2017, 08:21:39 AM
Nancy Sinatra not happy Trump using father's song at inauguration
By Caroline Kenny, CNN
Updated 12:20 PM ET, Thu January 19, 2017



Nancy Sinatra, when asked for a response about the song selection on Twitter, said: "Just remember the first line of the song."

The first line of the song is, "And now, the end is near."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics/nancy-sinatra-donald-trump-my-way/ (http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics/nancy-sinatra-donald-trump-my-way/)



Nancy Sinatra had some strong words for CNN after the news outlet published an article on its website with the headline “Nancy Sinatra not happy Trump using father's song at inauguration.”


..Sinatra was not happy with CNN’s story. She tweeted a link to the article and replied, “That's not true. I never said that. Why do you lie, CNN?”


“Actually I'm wishing him the best. A good president helps the entire world. I don't believe anyone tries to be a bad president.”


http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/01/20/nancy-sinatra-slams-cnn-for-anti-trump-spin-on-story-about-her-humorous-tweet.html



Good for you Ms. Sinatra, did I mention I hate fake news?

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 20, 2017, 10:13:20 AM
As I begin to write this, the clock on my office PC indicates that it is 12:12 p.m. EST, so I guess we have a new President.

May God have mercy on the United States of America,
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 20, 2017, 10:17:23 AM
As I begin to write this, the clock on my office PC indicates that it is 12:12 p.m. EST, so I guess we have a new President.

May God have mercy on the United States of America,

Yep he is the President, giving his speech right now - sounds kind of preachy actually.  Especially with all the past Presidents sitting there.

On a shallow note Melania looks stunning!


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 20, 2017, 10:23:59 AM
On a shallow note Melania looks stunning!

There was a picture in this morning's paper of the two of them getting off an airplane, and the heels she was wearing looked a mile high!  :laugh:

I don't see how women manage shoes like that, but never mind!  :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 20, 2017, 12:32:46 PM




http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/01/20/nancy-sinatra-slams-cnn-for-anti-trump-spin-on-story-about-her-humorous-tweet.html



Good for you Ms. Sinatra, did I mention I hate fake news?

ever occur to you that maybe Fox is the fake news...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 20, 2017, 12:39:30 PM


On a shallow note Melania looks stunning!

one of the women commentators said she was reminiscent of Jacqueline Kennedy...I'm sure Mrs. Kennedy is rolling in her grave at that comparison. 
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 20, 2017, 01:41:14 PM
Everyone and every head line said she was channeling Jackie.   And she was, she was stunning!




Flawless First Lady: Melania Trump  is a vision in baby-blue Ralph Lauren as she channels Jackie Kennedy in an elegant dress and gloves for the inauguration



    Melania Trump has selected a baby blue dress and jacket for her husband's swearing in ceremony

    The look was designed by Ralph Lauren and is double-faced cashmere mock-turtleneck dress that is being worn under a short jacket with a bold collar

    She accessorized her outfit with a pair of heels, clutch and elbow-length gloves that were all the same hue of blue

    The 46-year-old made the decision to keep everything else simple, choosing to play up her natural beauty by sweeping her hair into a loose undo

    Melania's outfit and gloves created a silhouette which made it clear that she was channeling Jacqueline Kennedy

    The incoming First Lady also carried Tiffany blue with her on Friday, presenting a gift from the jeweler to Michelle Obama when they met at the White House


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4140436/Melania-Trump-channels-Jackie-Kennedy-inauguration.html#ixzz4WKvSWlo8
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 20, 2017, 02:43:06 PM


After delivering a plagiarized speech at the convention, we knew she'd have to copy someone.


On a shallow note Melania looks stunning!

Something tells me that if you were in Nazi Germany in the 30's,
you'd have remarked the same statement about Eva Braun.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 20, 2017, 02:45:19 PM
Anti-Trump Rally Cops Fire Pepper Spray ... Trump Supporters Attacked

I'm glad to see today that you are posting news items from those bastions of "truth, justice and the American Way;"
what seem to be mostly your primary news sources: Fox and TMZ.

What you might like to take into consideration is this item passed out to all anti-Trump demonstration ralliers,
online and in person:

(These are intended to be peaceful gatherings but there have been many intimations that infiltrators will try to
incite violence and make it look like the protestors caused it. Use your own judgment on this one.)


Republicans play the victim game to the hilt, both mentally and physically. Trump's favorite word is: Unfair.
Examples are numerous and plentiful. Think about it.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 20, 2017, 02:47:10 PM




Britain's The Guardian newspaper had this to say about Donald "J. for Jumanji" Trump's inauguration campaign speech.


-- (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/20/reaction-to-donald-trump-speech)His inaugural address sounded like any speech at a Trump rally. The scene was a campaign event writ large, with a massive cheering crowd of white people wearing “Make America Great Again” red caps. Like his tone as a candidate, the new president’s voice was angry and dripping with pessimism. Like his speech at the Republican convention, President Trump drew a dark picture of a country under siege from foreign trade competitors, Muslim terrorists and Washington insiders. There were no grace notes.

His base no doubt loved it. But there was no reassurance or olive branch extended to the majority of Americans who did not vote for him. While he named President Bill Clinton, there was no mention of his wife, the vanquished opponent. There were no good wishes extended to President George HW Bush or his wife, who were hospitalized, but did not endorse him. The man does not seem capable of being magnanimous.

Indeed, after calling the Obamas “magnificent,” he was then overtly rude to them, portraying a do-nothing Washington that had betrayed the people and enriched itself. Meanwhile, the unprepared billionaires who displayed their ignorance at hearings last week await confirmation to his cabinet. In a gratuitous slap that echoed his wild and crazy insult to Rep John Lewis on Twitter, he lambasted politicians, presumably all the Democrats on the reviewing stand behind him, who “complain” but fail to get things done.

And the biggest lie of all when the narcissist proclaimed, “I will never let you down.”

He already has.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 20, 2017, 02:52:30 PM

After delivering a plagiarized speech at the convention, we knew she'd have to copy someone.


Something tells me that if you were in Nazi Germany in the 30's,
you'd have remarked the same statement about Eva Braun.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/ce/e2/48/cee248405a0ba4350d6f3af59c59dde3.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 20, 2017, 02:53:57 PM
Comparison: Donald Trump and Barack Obama’s inauguration crowds

One question ahead of today’s Inauguration Day ceremonies: How will the crowds at Trump’s swearing-in compare to crowds for other presidents?

Trump organizers said earlier this week they expected about 800,000 people to attend Friday’s festivities on the National Mall — “fewer than half the 1.8 million people who attended President Barack Obama’s first inauguration in 2009,”

Another view: Here’s a side-by-side of crowds during President Barack Obama’s inauguration in 2009 and Donald Trump’s inauguration in 2017, taken at 11:49:43, minutes before Donald Trump took the oath of office.


(http://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/newshour/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/comparison-withtime-1024x576.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 20, 2017, 02:57:52 PM



Indeed, after calling the Obamas “magnificent,” he was then overtly rude to them, portraying a do-nothing Washington that had betrayed the people and enriched itself.

As I will only respond to intelligent posts, I will say to this, I agree.   That speech was preachy and rude, with the Obama's and past Presidents there, I don't think it was appropriate.


If you watched you would have seen the look on Michelle's face, and Obama's, they were pissed you could tell.

The mood definitely shifted after that.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 20, 2017, 03:01:07 PM
Comparison: Donald Trump and Barack Obama’s inauguration crowds
(http://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/newshour/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/comparison-withtime-1024x576.jpg)

What Trump will say:  Fake photos.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 20, 2017, 03:02:51 PM
As I will only respond to intelligent posts....

how's that feel, Lyle?

And I agree w/your post that his address was just another campaign speech.  Thank god he saved saying something "nice" about Clinton for the luncheon, or his minions would have started the chant...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 20, 2017, 03:04:05 PM
(http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/58827e7b1700009f0a92b582.jpeg)


I think George W. Bush stole the show!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 20, 2017, 03:04:53 PM
The death knell for the United States of America started on November 8, 2016 and will ring until there is an impeachment, or until November 3, 2020, or until the United States of America no longer exists.  Only then will the ringing cease.

I am not a pessimist. I firmly believe this.

I hold out no hope for impeachment, as the Republican held government will NEVER admit to the biggest mistake they have ever made.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 20, 2017, 03:12:57 PM

Sad day.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 20, 2017, 03:17:41 PM
We decided to curtail our demonstrating today. It's been raining in varying degrees of severity
for twelve hours straight now.  Instead of spending so much time in the rain we decided to partake
in the pleasures of home, warmth, food, friends and togetherness. To enjoy people we like instead of
more protesting of someone we do not. Besides, the Women's March is tomorrow and a break in the
weather is supposed to happen then between our second and third, worse, storm arriving!

Los Angeles Times:
Get Ready to Get Wet, Protesters
The storm could deposit over 2 inches of rain in Los Angeles by the end of the day.
“I guess it’ll match what you see on TV because I think they’re supposed to get a little
rain in Washington, D.C.,” a demonstrator said. “It’ll make you feel like you’re there.”
Parts of Los Angeles and Ventura counties were issued warnings of potential thunderstorms,
hail and waterspouts.

This L.A. Times current article link usually disappears in a couple days unless you're a subscriber:
http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-92378665/

Just to be clear, though: I love this weather...we haven't had it for so long!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 20, 2017, 03:54:42 PM

I love this article.  I'd post the whole thing here, but...


Donald Trump Still Can't Escape Hillary Clinton
Rachel Sklar, Special to the Washington Post
10:30 am, January 20, 2017

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-58825748/turbine/ct-hillary-clinton-trump-inauguration-20170120)

Clinton may not have been the right person to beat Trump in November,
but since then, she's been the perfect person to lose to him.


http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-92380771/
_____


It would not at all have surprised me if Trump had gotten his devotees to shout
"Lock her up," during his speech today.

Retiring my sig line today:

Official: Hillary Clinton won the U.S. National Vote by 2,864,978 votes, 48.2% to 46.1%.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 20, 2017, 03:56:53 PM
Don't know, but the margin of victory is always a useful reminder.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 20, 2017, 03:59:34 PM
one of the women commentators said she was reminiscent of Jacqueline Kennedy...I'm sure Mrs. Kennedy is rolling in her grave at that comparison.

I'll bet she was, too.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 20, 2017, 04:02:19 PM
(https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/hillary-clinton5.jpg?w=2000)


“I was very honored — very, very honored — when I heard that President Bill Clinton and Secretary Hillary Clinton were coming today and I think it’s appropriate to say and I’d like you to stand up,” he said, joining in as the audience clapped. “And honestly there’s nothing more I can say because I have a lot of respect for those two people so thank you all for being here.”


http://people.com/politics/hillary-bill-clinton-attend-donald-trump-inauguration-george-w-bush-jimmy-carter/


Hillary looked great!   Couldn't have been easy for her today.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 20, 2017, 04:05:58 PM
Something tells me that if you were in Nazi Germany in the 30's,
you'd have remarked the same statement about Eva Braun.

Meeow. ...

I don't know why you hate Melania so much, Lyle. I even find it hard to believe she had anything to do with the writing of the speech where she plagiarized Michelle Obama.

I'll give the woman this much: She had the mind to sell herself to marry The Donald. (Not that that's necessarily something to admire her for.)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 20, 2017, 04:09:35 PM
(https://peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/hillary-clinton5.jpg?w=2000)


“I was very honored — very, very honored — when I heard that President Bill Clinton and Secretary Hillary Clinton were coming today and I think it’s appropriate to say and I’d like you to stand up,” he said, joining in as the audience clapped. “And honestly there’s nothing more I can say because I have a lot of respect for those two people so thank you all for being here.”



Don't you know sarcasm when you hear it?  Oh wait, this was coming from his heart...oh wait, he'd have to HAVE a heart...so

don't you know sarcasm when you hear it?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 20, 2017, 04:12:55 PM

[From The Guardian article]
But there was no reassurance or olive branch extended to the majority of Americans who did not vote for him.

And, indeed, why should there be? Thanks to the Electoral College, he won, and Publicans have the House and the Senate. He has no need to reach out to anyone.

Quote
The man does not seem capable of being magnanimous.

He isn't.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 20, 2017, 04:15:07 PM
Meeow. ...

I don't know why you hate Melania so much, Lyle. I even find it hard to believe she had anything to do with the writing of the speech where she plagiarized Michelle Obama.

I'll give the woman this much: She had the mind to sell herself to marry The Donald. (Not that that's necessarily something to admire her for.)

yeah, marrying a racist pig?  that's not really a selling point...what do you "give" her?

and she clearly shares his views, so maybe that's one reason Lyle can't stand her...not to speak for Lyle, just guessing...

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 20, 2017, 04:16:44 PM
The death knell for the United States of America started on November 8, 2016 and will ring until there is an impeachment, or until November 3, 2020, or until the United States of America no longer exists.  Only then will the ringing cease.

I am not a pessimist. I firmly believe this.

I hold out no hope for impeachment, as the Republican held government will NEVER admit to the biggest mistake they have ever made.

Sad day.

Agree with you both.  :(

I left work early today for a doctor's appointment. I told my teammates I would see them Monday, if we haven't all been blown to smithereens by then. ...

Putin's probably doing his happy dance. ...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 20, 2017, 04:19:34 PM
Meeow. ...

I don't know why you hate Melania so much, Lyle.

One can only speculate, but honestly I doubt she cares what Lyle thinks.   She came from humble beginnings and is now the First Lady of the United States, she has done pretty good for herself.   And she's stunning!  :laugh:


(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/20/23/article-4141584-3C566B9D00000578-183_964x526.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 20, 2017, 04:23:13 PM
One can only speculate, but honestly I doubt she cares what Lyle thinks.   

Just speculating, you honestly don't think she cares what Lyle thinks?  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 20, 2017, 04:31:44 PM
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/s720x720/16112568_10150803669214978_2140462849131081830_o.jpg?oh=f3936112e2a9da2f156f944b5f6490e9&oe=59204ED5)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 20, 2017, 06:10:40 PM
A relative of Laura Palmer?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 20, 2017, 06:32:59 PM

Since everyone is speculating...   ?

Think of it this way--guilt by association.

It's not that I really give a flying fig for Melania one way or the other.
It's that she's married to the person I find abominable. So I just don't care
about her. When she gets brought up in the news thread it's a way to bring
up her husband.  Plus, Trump supporters express their displeasure with immigrants
and she's one. They hate illegal immigrants and Trump never produced her legal
papers as he said he was going to.  Republican supporters were beside themselves
when the thought of John Kerry's foreign born wife could be First Lady, so the fact
they have no problem now...it's hypocritical and so I am not going to fawn all over her.

So why should I?  She chose him. I didn't choose either of them.

The fact they're also hypocritical over so many things, including that she's posed for
soft corn porn -- Christian values!  Then try to justify their support with, "Sometimes
God chooses flawed people to deliver his message."  Really? As long as the "flaws" are
on the Republican side I guess anything goes. If people actually think God chose Donald
Trump to deliver any message, they are more delusional than even Trump is.


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 20, 2017, 06:49:42 PM
[From The Guardian article]
But there was no reassurance or olive branch extended to the majority of Americans who did not vote for him.

And, indeed, why should there be? Thanks to the Electoral College, he won, and Publicans have the House and the Senate. He has no need to reach out to anyone.

Now you're sounding like Trump when you say things like that!  Even if they win by a lot, Presidents usually take the time between
the election and inauguration to drum up good will and support for the incoming administration. In contested elections a candidate
might appoint someone from the opposing party to the cabinet or, at the very least, give a shout out in the inauguration speech to
those who voted against you to give yourself the benefit of the doubt. It helps to govern if you have the people on your side.  Less
than 1/3 of the people have a positive opinion of him today. The lowest ever in the history of measuring such things. That means
there are even people who voted for him that have a low opinion. If Trump were a normal human being he would want this for the
American people. He is a megalomaniac only interested in what he thinks is good for him. That's why there should be.


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 20, 2017, 07:35:47 PM
I wish Anderson Cooper had called in sick, and let someone else cover the inaugural balls...maybe his ego is as big as trump's...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 20, 2017, 09:55:49 PM
I wish Anderson Cooper had called in sick, and let someone else cover the inaugural balls...maybe his ego is as big as trump's...

Send a queen to cover a ball. ...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 21, 2017, 08:15:33 AM

I couldn't watch much of yesterday's coverage.  I mean I didn't want to.
I watched a recap hour or more and that was enough. I was pretty ashamed
of what I was seeing and hearing.

I'm up early to go downtown for the Los Angeles offshoot of the Women's March on Washington.
It's only 47° here this morning.  In Los Angeles!  I forgot how to dress for colder weather. I don't
want to carry anything around really, either, that can be a pain. We're going down on the subway!

I was trying on different coats all last night and still couldn't decide which one would be best.
Better get to it, I guess.  At least it isn't supposed to be raining most of the daylight hours today!

Take care all who are doing similar things today! Come back and report on it!



Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 21, 2017, 08:30:56 AM


I was trying on different coats all last night and still couldn't decide which one would be best.


Just don't forget your pink hat!


(http://i0.wp.com/peopledotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/img_5136.jpg?crop=0px%2C0px%2C3264px%2C2175px&resize=2000%2C1333&ssl=1)


An estimated 200,000 women from all across America are preparing to descend on the nation’s capital for the Women’s March on Washington Saturday — and many will be protesting Donald Trump the day after he is sworn into office simply by the hat on their head...


http://people.com/politics/pussyhats-galore-inside-the-pink-toppers-thousands-will-wear-to-the-womens-march-on-washington/


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 21, 2017, 05:45:45 PM
gee, wonder who wrote Sean's statement...and the march today dwarfed the crowd for inauguration, but no mention of that...

Spicer Uses First White House Presser to Blast Media Over ‘Shameful’ Reports on Crowd Sizes

Sean Spicer held his first press conference today as the new White House press secretary, though it wasn’t so much of a news conference as it was a full-scale tear against the media.

Spicer started things off by blasting the recent reports about how President Trump removed a bust of Martin Luther King Jr. from the Oval Office. The story has been disproven, and Spicer blasted those who circulated the reports as “reckless and irresponsible.”

Not a moment afterwards, Spicer turned his ire towards reporters who noted that Trump didn’t have a particularly large crowd for his inauguration compared to past presidents. Spicer said that these media figures were working to “minimize the enormous support” that got Trump elected, and that it was “shameful and wrong” to put out “inaccurate” numbers and pictures about the crowds.

“This was the largest audience to witness an inauguration. Period!” Spicer said.

Spicer also used his opening remarks to talk about Trump’s speech today with the CIA, where Trump took his own shots at the media. Spicer did not take any questions, and he walked away from reporters after finishing his tangent.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/sean-spicers-uses-first-white-house-presser-to-blast-media-over-shameful-reports-on-crowd-sizes/ (http://www.mediaite.com/online/sean-spicers-uses-first-white-house-presser-to-blast-media-over-shameful-reports-on-crowd-sizes/)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 21, 2017, 05:53:15 PM
Not a moment afterwards, Spicer turned his ire towards reporters who noted that Trump didn’t have a particularly large crowd for his inauguration compared to past presidents. Spicer said that these media figures were working to “minimize the enormous support” that got Trump elected, and that it was “shameful and wrong” to put out “inaccurate” numbers and pictures about the crowds.

“This was the largest audience to witness an inauguration. Period!” Spicer said.

We were expecting something like that were't we?

Good God. Four years--at least--of Alternate Reality from the White House.

I know it's reality but somehow I still can't wrap my mind around the fact that The Donald is actually President of the United States.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 21, 2017, 06:08:42 PM
holy crap...

Michael Flynn Jr. mocks Women's March: 'Women already have equal rights'

Michael Flynn Jr., the outspoken son of Michael Flynn, Trump’s pick for national security advisor, offered his take on the Women’s March in Washington on Saturday.

Flynn Jr. took to Twitter, where he questioned the point of the march. “What victory? Women already have equal rights, and YES equal pay in this country. What MORE do you want? Free mani/pedis?”

http://www.ajc.com/news/national-govt--politics/michael-flynn-mocks-women-march-women-already-have-equal-rights/a55dd63CBq8SRqBp5ybfTM/ (http://www.ajc.com/news/national-govt--politics/michael-flynn-mocks-women-march-women-already-have-equal-rights/a55dd63CBq8SRqBp5ybfTM/)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 21, 2017, 06:10:09 PM


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2tTIe6UcAMm_gt.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 21, 2017, 06:19:07 PM
There was a turnout of 6,000 women, men, children and dogs for the March in Albuquerque, and in Santa Fe, the count was 10,000. Both places had snow falling and winds blowing.

At most of the hundreds of marches across the country, the numbers of people attending far exceeded expectations. Some are saying the crowd at the march today in Washington DC exceeded the attendance of the inauguration yesterday.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on January 21, 2017, 06:28:36 PM
We were expecting something like that were't we?

Good God. Four years--at least--of Alternate Reality from the White House.

I know it's reality but somehow I still can't wrap my mind around the fact that The Donald is actually President of the United States.

Lets just hope it will be a short...sharp....but unfortunately.... rather painful  4 years
                                                       ******
There have been demonstrations here in the UK too Linda. 
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 21, 2017, 06:40:01 PM
Lets just hope it will be a short...sharp....but unfortunately.... rather painful  4 years
                                                       ******
There have been demonstrations here in the UK too Linda. 

Yes I have seen this, Sue, and am so thankful for all the people in London, Berlin, Paris, Rome, Vienna, Geneva and Amsterdam, who marched. I hope this continues and I can only hope it makes a difference.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 21, 2017, 06:57:32 PM
Make a difference?  Turn on CNN.  All he cares about, on his first day as president of the United States, is how big the crowd was yesterday...

I'm sure he doesn't care about the hundreds of thousands who marched worldwide today, because they don't like him...the 16 year old girl in him is out already...only today he didn't tweet it, he stated in while standing in front of a wall of stars representing 54 employees who died while serving their country.  Disgraceful...and only the beginning...of the end??
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 21, 2017, 07:41:09 PM

Glad to read all the reports above!

I got home from downtown Los Angeles awhile ago; turned on the news.
The Los Angeles organizers had thought there'd be around 80,000 in the
Women's March today.  Did I hear ABC news just say there were 750,000?

I'd believe it!  The march area was so crowded no one could get near the stage for the speeches
and the Metro (subway) was so filled to capacity they were bypassing tons of people trying to get on.
Including me and my friend. Fortunately we left early in the morning. Then the route to City Hall for
the march was just abandoned and people marched on three separate streets to City Hall. It was so
amazing, peaceful, friendly, insightful, filled with people of all ages, ethnicities, walks of life. I believe
there were equal numbers of men and women there. Many families. Creative signs. (I have to try and
remember some of them to post.)  Perfect weather (today!). So glad I could go and I loved it.

Plus:  LAPD said there was NO TROUBLE. NO PROBLEMS. NOT ONE ARREST!

The ABC report about other places around the world even listed a demonstration
and protest in Antarctica - with 31 people!  Fantastic.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 21, 2017, 07:46:08 PM
They didn't include the number of penguins.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 21, 2017, 07:57:56 PM
Make a difference?  Turn on CNN.  All he cares about, on his first day as president of the United States, is how big the crowd was yesterday...

I'm sure he doesn't care about the hundreds of thousands who marched worldwide today, because they don't like him...the 16 year old girl in him is out already...only today he didn't tweet it, he stated in while standing in front of a wall of stars representing 54 employees who died while serving their country.  Disgraceful...and only the beginning...of the end??

Yes, I know Nancy. For one day, though, I just had to give myself some hope. It won't last, I know.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 21, 2017, 08:11:42 PM
I don't know if we had anything here in Philadelphia today, but then, we're close enough to Washington for folks to join that demonstration.

In his weekly e-mail to the parish, our rector wrote that 16 women plus our part-time assistant minister, also a woman, went to Washington to join the march there.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 21, 2017, 08:34:45 PM
50,000 Take Part in Women's March in Philadelphia

The number far exceeded the 20,000 that was originally predicted, according to Philadelphia Mayor's Office spokeswoman Lauren Hitt.

By Wire Reports and NBC10 Staff

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Womens-March-Philadelphia-Inauguration-Thousands-Donald-Trump--411418875.html (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Womens-March-Philadelphia-Inauguration-Thousands-Donald-Trump--411418875.html)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 22, 2017, 12:04:06 AM
Women's March by the numbers.

Women's March Worldwide Estimates
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/170xxy-6PnwF-BwQJsTgF1vxlEaWIhT7vNlqxjkNni7E/edit?ts=588404ed#gid=0

Crowd Estimates (in progress/alphabetical)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xa0iLqYKz8x9Yc_rfhtmSOJQ2EGgeUVjvV4A8LsIaxY/htmlview?sle=true

Women's March Largest in U.S. History
A Comparison
http://usuncut.com/news/womens-march-largest-protest-us-history/

The Official Women’s March Attendance Numbers From Around the World Are In…
(A selective look at various cities, with photos, tweets and video)
http://usuncut.com/news/official-womens-march-attendance/

Women's March on Washington Goes Worldwide
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/21/millions-turn-out-worldwide-solidarity-washington-womens-march/96880344/


Downtown Los Angeles today:

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-58841a57/turbine/la-lochoa-1485052555-snap-photo/600/600x338)

(http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/kabc/images/cms/automation/vod/1714219_1280x720.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 22, 2017, 12:24:17 AM
gee, wonder who wrote Sean's statement...and the march today dwarfed the crowd for inauguration, but no mention of that...

Spicer Uses First White House Presser to Blast Media Over ‘Shameful’ Reports on Crowd Sizes

“This was the largest audience to witness an inauguration. Period!” Spicer said.

Spicer did not take any questions, and he walked away from reporters after finishing his tangent.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/sean-spicers-uses-first-white-house-presser-to-blast-media-over-shameful-reports-on-crowd-sizes/ (http://www.mediaite.com/online/sean-spicers-uses-first-white-house-presser-to-blast-media-over-shameful-reports-on-crowd-sizes/)


This is how sad this whole bunch of cretins are.
It's what the Republicans have been doing for years now--keep saying things until it becomes
the perceived truth. This is why, as they say, we all have to speak truth to power. Do not accept
the lies that are now front and center in the White House press room.

The first day of a Presidency and the top priority is CROWD SIZE.

Now doubling down on it, no less:

In Response to Criticism, Photos of Inaugural Crowd Appear in White House Press Briefing Room
by Lindsey Ellefson | 4:47 pm, January 21st, 2017
http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-has-put-photos-of-inauguration-crowd-in-the-press-briefing-room/

________________

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKv7mB1j80c
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: BlueJeanJeannie on January 22, 2017, 05:58:22 AM
Jake Gyllenhaal was at the March in Washington, DC yesterday, along with his sister Maggie and some friends. So glad he was there.

(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p706/wuppie1968/Jake/021_zpsbb2fmq9x.jpg)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: BlueJeanJeannie on January 22, 2017, 06:18:22 AM
(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p706/wuppie1968/Jake/normal_004_zpsmogrcl1a.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: BlueJeanJeannie on January 22, 2017, 06:26:29 AM
I know it's reality but somehow I still can't wrap my mind around the fact that The Donald is actually President of the United States.

Same here. I still shake my head in disbelief - and I live in The Netherlands, for goodness sake. If the world had known this, say, three years ago... unbelievable.

This just seems like a bad movie script  :-X
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: janiebbmart on January 22, 2017, 06:53:08 AM
Jake Gyllenhaal was at the March in Washington, DC yesterday, along with his sister Maggie and some friends. So glad he was there.

(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p706/wuppie1968/Jake/021_zpsbb2fmq9x.jpg)

A brief moment of sanity.  :-X
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: BlueJeanJeannie on January 22, 2017, 07:10:59 AM
(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p706/wuppie1968/13615381_981541531964671_4345517149801517782_n_zpsvojh9b6x.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 22, 2017, 07:50:12 AM
Yes, I know Nancy. For one day, though, I just had to give myself some hope. It won't last, I know.

I was just so discouraged and disgusted listening to him, it made me feel hopeless. 

But the more I watched the marches around the world, I was surprised that I did see hope, right in front of me...and listening to some clips of the speakers at the march in Washington, I'm starting to think this is just the beginning of a movement that will make a difference...I hope...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 22, 2017, 07:51:36 AM
50,000 Take Part in Women's March in Philadelphia

The number far exceeded the 20,000 that was originally predicted, according to Philadelphia Mayor's Office spokeswoman Lauren Hitt.

By Wire Reports and NBC10 Staff

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Womens-March-Philadelphia-Inauguration-Thousands-Donald-Trump--411418875.html (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Womens-March-Philadelphia-Inauguration-Thousands-Donald-Trump--411418875.html)

Yes, I heard this on local morning TV news. Thanks for the update! You beat me to it.  :D

The march took place on the Benjamin Franklin Parkway.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 22, 2017, 07:57:21 AM
Jake Gyllenhaal was at the March in Washington, DC yesterday, along with his sister Maggie and some friends. So glad he was there.

(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p706/wuppie1968/Jake/021_zpsbb2fmq9x.jpg)


"Men in Tights"? I like men in tights. Not sure I get the relevance here, but never mind.  ;D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 22, 2017, 08:24:32 AM
Tell you what, the press secretary's comment about the size of the inauguration crowd made me think of one thins: The Emperor's New Clothes.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on January 22, 2017, 08:56:19 AM
(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p706/wuppie1968/13615381_981541531964671_4345517149801517782_n_zpsvojh9b6x.jpg)

Very good!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 22, 2017, 09:13:20 AM

    "Watched protests yesterday but was under the impression that we just had an election! Why didn't these people vote? Celebs hurt cause badly".

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) 22 January 2017



Great pics of Jake and the collage of pics there is pretty funny!  We do wonder.. :laugh:

Also they are saying:

 "This was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period," Spicer said, contradicting all available data.

Aerial photos have indicated that former president Barack Obama's first inauguration attracted a much larger crowd. Nielsen ratings show that Obama also had a bigger television audience.

Spicer said, without any evidence, that some photos were "intentionally framed" to downplay Trump's crowd.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/21/media/sean-spicer-press-secretary-statement/index.html


and he goes on...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 22, 2017, 09:29:18 AM
Kellyanne Conway could, quite possibly, be a bigger hit on SNL than Trump...between the two of them, the show is writing itself...

'Alternative facts are not facts. They're falsehoods': Chuck Todd blasts Trump adviser over dubious briefing claims

(Chuck Todd and Kellyanne Conway on "Meet the Press."NBC)
NBC anchor Chuck Todd confronted President Donald Trump's top counselor over the new White House press secretary's false statements about the inauguration crowd sizes.

In a heated interview on Sunday's "Meet The Press," Conway dismissed Todd's question about why press secretary Sean Spicer insisted that Trump's inauguration crowd was the "largest audience to ever witness an inauguration" despite contradicting evidence.

"You did not answer the question of why the president asked the White House press secretary to come out in front of the podium for the first time and utter a falsehood. Why did he do that? It undermines the credibility of the entire White House press office on day one," Todd said.

"No it doesn't, do be so overly dramatic about it, Chuck. You're saying it's a falsehood, and Sean Spicer, our press secretary is giving alternative facts to that," Conway shot back.

"Wait a minute, alternative facts? Alternative facts — four of the five facts he uttered, the one that he got right was Zeke Miller, four of the five facts he uttered are not true. Alternative facts are not facts — they're falsehoods," Todd replied.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/alternative-facts-not-facts-theyre-155325681.html (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/alternative-facts-not-facts-theyre-155325681.html)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 22, 2017, 09:32:12 AM
https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/kellyanne-conway/3457926?snl=1 (https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/kellyanne-conway/3457926?snl=1)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 22, 2017, 09:49:47 AM
Justin Trudeau ‏@JustinTrudeau 14m14 minutes ago

Congratulations to the women and men across Canada who came out yesterday to support women's rights. You keep your government inspired.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 22, 2017, 10:31:53 AM
"Wait a minute, alternative facts? Alternative facts — four of the five facts he uttered, the one that he got right was Zeke Miller, four of the five facts he uttered are not true. Alternative facts are not facts — they're falsehoods," Todd replied.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/alternative-facts-not-facts-theyre-155325681.html (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/alternative-facts-not-facts-theyre-155325681.html)

Good for Chuck Todd.  :)

(Thanks for the post!)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 22, 2017, 10:37:27 AM
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16265422_10101449239559607_5900881931970327343_n.jpg?oh=662929e58c5fe15a8426b0ac8ff3b54b&oe=590CDCB1)


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 22, 2017, 12:37:19 PM
^^^

Is that supposed to be a "diss" at Hillary Clinton by said source, and by you as well for posting it?

Personally, I, for one, would not think it appropriate for the Democrat Presidential nominee, to be out in a
March such as this during the same weekend as the Presidential inauguration. It would have garnered more
attention than the march itself. It would have been seen as partisan and controversial by the opposition and
others, which means the march would have been taken less seriously, by some anyway.  She also does not
have a current job in which she can effect any legislation going forward in this matter; Sanders is still a Senator
and appropriately influential.

Oh, and speaking of a "diss":

Hillary Clinton's message and endorsement of the Women’s March came in spite of the fact that her name was left off the March’s Guiding Vision and Definition of Principles‘ list of revolutionary women.

Many of her supporters were upset by the fact that the trailblazing woman who broke glass ceilings, including becoming the first woman to secure a major party’s nomination for president, wasn’t included in the list. A Change.org petition quickly started circulating, demanding that her name be added. The petition argued that “As activists and allies, we are dismayed that March organizers excluded Hillary Rodham Clinton as an honoree who has inspired women around the world to serve and to lead.”

Adding fuel to the fire, many argued that the event even used a quote from Clinton when they included the sentence “Women’s Rights are Human Rights and Human Rights are Women’s Rights” to their Guiding Vision and Definition of Principles, but failed to acknowledge her.

As one person said:

Leaving Hillary Clinton off this list is further proof of how we tell women:
"Do it perfectly, or don't try at all."#AddHerName

Articles HERE (http://rare.us/story/women-marchers-are-furious-about-the-omission-of-this-one-revolutionary-leader/) and HERE (http://rare.us/story/hillary-clinton-sent-out-thank-you-tweet-to-all-the-women-participating-in-womens-marches-around-the-world/).
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 22, 2017, 12:41:14 PM
Jake Gyllenhaal was at the March in Washington, DC yesterday, along with his sister Maggie and some friends. So glad he was there.

(http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p706/wuppie1968/Jake/021_zpsbb2fmq9x.jpg)

Shouldn't that left sign read: MEN IN TIGTHS?     :P

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 22, 2017, 12:55:13 PM
 Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago

Wow, television ratings just out: 31 million people watched the Inauguration, 11 million more than the very good ratings from 4 years ago!



Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 5h5 hours ago

Peaceful protests are a hallmark of our democracy. Even if I don't always agree, I recognize the rights of people to express their views.


 8)  He's still tweeting!



    Thanks for standing, speaking & marching for our values @womensmarch. Important as ever. I truly believe we're always Stronger Together.

    — Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) January 21, 2017



    'Hope Not Fear'

    Indeed.

    And what a beautiful piece by Louisa Cannell. #womensmarch 👊👊🏻👊🏼👊🏽✨ pic.twitter.com/7h3Bzx79nB

    — Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) January 21, 2017


https://twitter.com/hashtag/womensmarch?src=hash

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 22, 2017, 01:24:18 PM
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 7h7 hours ago

Wow, television ratings just out: 31 million people watched the Inauguration, 11 million more than the very good ratings from 4 years ago!


Second inaugurations of two term Presidents are always lower than the first.

Here's another accurate TWEET he could have made:

Wow, television ratings just out: 31 million people watched the Inauguration, 5.8 million less than the very good ratings from 8 years ago!

TRUTH: 19 percent below the audience for Barack Obama’s first swearing-in (37.8 million), on Jan. 20, 2009, when a quarter of all households tuned in.


Sorry Donald NOT BUYING IT.
And hating that this is what's on your mind.
You're PRESIDENT for f---'s sake!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 22, 2017, 01:38:24 PM
Creative signs. (I have to try and remember some of them to post.)

I tried to remember some of the creative signs I saw yesterday. There were so many, the longer ones
are hard to remember at all.  I wish I'd had a pen and written them down, but wouldn't have thought
of it beforehand.  The friend I went with took some photos, but his computer is down until Wednesday,
so I might get the photos later on.  I'm sure some signs I've forgotten will be in the photos.

There were many great serious signs and signs I agreed with and a lot of "pussy" related signs. Those
I remember and am posting here are ones I thought were clever, creative, and/or made me laugh.





IF YOU WERE
LOOKING FOR
A SIGN
THIS IS IT.



ALT-RIGHT
DELETE



TRUMP: You don't have to be
POOR to be WHITE TRASH.



I CAN SEE RUSSIA FROM
MY WHITE HOUSE



IKEA HAS
BETTER
CABINETS



WHAT
MERYL
SAID



THE ERA OF FAKE NEWS
BEGINS WITH A FAKE
PRESIDENT



LOVE
TRUMPS
HATE.
LOVE
TRUMPS
TRUMP.



MEANWHILE IN RUSSIA
(http://forum.voetbalzone.nl/customavatars/avatar7418_57.gif)



TRUMP:
We are not
PEE-ONS.



WE ARE NOT
OVARY-ACTING



SUPER-CALLOUS-
FRAGILE-EGO-
TRUMP-YOU-ARE-ATROCIOUS



Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 22, 2017, 02:09:49 PM
Those are pretty funny Lyle!  :laugh:  There are actually whole sites dedicated to the signs, some of them are very clever.

One woman had a sign that said "Trump I will pee on you for free" ouch!!


Thought this one said it all though:


(http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/56/53/07/12235217/3/1024x1024.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 22, 2017, 03:43:46 PM
I hesitate to ask this, but maybe I just missed something. Why were the hats made to look like they have cat ears? Did The Donald make some stupid crack about women being catty that I missed?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 22, 2017, 04:30:17 PM
It has to do with what he likes to grab.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on January 22, 2017, 06:03:44 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/21/media/sean-spicer-press-secretary-statement/



" Mommy...they DID come to see me.... didn't they mommy" ?
 :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 22, 2017, 07:01:43 PM
It has to do with what he likes to grab.

Ah. Eeew.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: BlueJeanJeannie on January 23, 2017, 05:58:27 AM
It has to do with what he likes to grab.

I hadn't thought of that either.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 23, 2017, 07:35:51 AM
I hadn't thought of that either.

A woman wore one of those hats to Service at my church yesterday. Unfortunately (I guess), it just made me think of 'Hello, Kitty."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 23, 2017, 08:25:51 AM
‘Good did not win this election, but good will win in the end!’ she bellowed. ‘And to our detractors that insist this March will never add up to anything, F**K YOU.’

The crowd whooped, she smirked delightedly, and then repeated her audience-thrilling line: ‘F**K YOU!’

As they whooped even louder, she went even lower.

‘Yes, I’m angry. Yes, I’m outraged. Yes, I have thought an awful lot of blowing up the White House.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4148206/PIERS-MORGAN-Madonna-Bomb-threats-don-t-Trump-hate.html#ixzz4Wb9K5U5E
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook



Madonna may be in hot water, but what else is new.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 23, 2017, 11:14:42 AM
http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/21/media/sean-spicer-press-secretary-statement/

That press briefing was perhaps the single most terrifying thing yet from this White House, because,
well, this quote in the article says it all:

"Sean Spicer lacks the guts or integrity to refuse orders to go out and lie.
He is a failure in this job on his first full day."

And it wasn't a lie to cover up anything but verifiable facts.

Then Kelly Anne Conway goes on Meet the Press and just calls them alternate facts!

We now have a White House that makes up things and calls them facts.
 
And this was the first full day! My only thought was that I was watching some old SNL skit
from the 90's with Chris Farley as Andy Spicer.


Andy Borowitz's take on this from the New Yorker:

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/disturbed-man-gets-past-white-house-security-gives-press-conference


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 23, 2017, 11:28:16 AM
'Let Barron be a kid': Former first daughter Chelsea Clinton speaks out to defend Donald Trump's 10-year-old son from cruel internet bullies - but can't resist a political dig at his dad

    Chelsea Clinton took to Facebook to defend Barron Trump on Sunday

    She said that he 'deserves the chance every child does - to be a kid'

    But in the post she went on to attack his father Donald Trump by saying that we should 'oppose POTUS policies that hurt kids'

    Many have criticized her and called the post 'hypocritical'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4146662/Chelsea-Clinton-defends-Barron-Trump-Facebook-post.html#ixzz4WbvE2500
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 23, 2017, 11:48:52 AM
'Let Barron be a kid': Former first daughter Chelsea Clinton speaks out to defend Donald Trump's 10-year-old son from cruel internet bullies - but can't resist a political dig at his dad

    Chelsea Clinton took to Facebook to defend Barron Trump on Sunday

    She said that he 'deserves the chance every child does - to be a kid'

    But in the post she went on to attack his father Donald Trump by saying that we should 'oppose POTUS policies that hurt kids'

    Many have criticized her and called the post 'hypocritical'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4146662/Chelsea-Clinton-defends-Barron-Trump-Facebook-post.html#ixzz4WbvE2500
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

I don't get it. Why is it "hypocritical" for her to urge people to let the boy alone, yet oppose his father's policies that she believes will harm children in general?

I'm not a parent, but it doesn't seem right to me to attack the child--or whatever people have been doing--because of the sins of his father.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 23, 2017, 11:51:40 AM
I don't get it. Why is it "hypocritical" for her to urge people to let the boy alone, yet oppose his father's policies that she believes will harm children in general?

I'm not a parent, but it doesn't seem right to me to attack the child--or whatever people have been doing--because of the sins of his father.


I agree with you 100 percent.   And I remember how cruel they were to Chelsea when her Dad was President.  It wasn't right then and isn't right now.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 23, 2017, 12:17:51 PM

What's really amusing is that his father is an internet bully himself.


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 23, 2017, 12:22:05 PM



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4148206/PIERS-MORGAN-Madonna-Bomb-threats-don-t-Trump-hate.html#ixzz4Wb9K5U5E

Madonna may be in hot water, but what else is new.

About Piers Morgan's statement that "Madonna's Bomb Threats Don't Trump Hate."

There was a time I used to think Piers Morgan was okay, now I think he's a ______.
Madonna's always been an uncouth spokesperson for outrageousness. To glom on to
her as the representative of millions of women all over the country (and the world) is
really just idiocy.  And for Piers to be a spokesman for this world-wide march is like
having him speak for all black people.

He also doesn't get it.  What he is calling hate isn't anything more than how Trump supporters
rebeled against HRC's "deplorables" comments.  They embraced it as a badge of honor and women
embraced Trump's "pussy" comments and "nasty woman" rhetoric, too, and during this March
acted it out in their own way.  Good for them. That's what demonstrations, gatherings and protests
are designed to do. Reclaim yourselves. It's a powerful feeling to go out and share yourselves with a
large contingent of like-minded people. I can't speak for each and every separate March, but I can
speak for the one I attended, the largest gathering of people in one city in the world according to the
reports, and, according to the LAPD, there was no trouble, no incidents, no violence, no arrests. That,
in a crowd of 750,000, is practically unbelievable.

The entire day I encountered no negativity, no hate, no feelings of anything but a united resolve to be
loved and accepted and treated with dignity by those who would seek to inhibit and curb those rights.
It was an amazing day of camaraderie and togetherness, thoughtfulness and kindness that I have not
experienced since the Olympics were in town back in 1984.

I have not spoken to so many strangers in one day, maybe ever, in a spirit of courtesy, understanding and
sheer joy of expression. I spoke to the old and young, black and white, straight and LGBT, women and men,
families and their pre-schoolers and babies, Muslims, Latinos, Fillipinos, Asians, someone from India, homeless,
disabled, policeman and firefighters, bus drivers and subway conductors and who knows all who else? The more
I've thought about it, the more I think it was one of the best top days of my life.

So people can take any few persons in the world who said something they didn't like and hold it up to be ridiculed
and dismissive of the entirety. That would be really shallow, and that I will dismiss.
 
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 23, 2017, 02:17:19 PM
What's really amusing is that his father is an internet bully himself.

His Father not him, he is a 10 year old boy.


Anyway I am glad you had such a great time the other day, I really am.   As for Madonna, maybe she needs to remember:


(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/75/09/df/7509df85b712db7570ccf80b8512c2b2.jpg)



http://groknation.com/news/la-womens-march/


A nice take on the day! 
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 23, 2017, 02:47:46 PM
His Father not him, he is a 10 year old boy.

Meaning what? I'm agreeing the boy should be left out of the equation.

You quoted:

"Former first daughter Chelsea Clinton speaks out to defend Donald Trump's 10-year-old son from cruel internet bullies."

I was just pointing out the irony that his father is an internet bully...and not only on the internet.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 23, 2017, 03:25:40 PM
So much for the march!   :(


Washington (CNN)

President Donald Trump signed an executive action on Monday reinstating the so-called Mexico City Policy, which bars international non-governmental organizations that perform or promote abortions from receiving US government funding.


"The President, it's no secret, has made it very clear that he's a pro-life president," White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer told reporters at his first daily briefing. "He wants to stand up for all Americans, including the unborn, and I think the reinstatement of this policy is not just something that echoes that value, but respects taxpayer funding as well."..


http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/23/politics/trump-mexico-city-policy/index.html
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 23, 2017, 05:58:06 PM
"The President, it's no secret, has made it very clear that he's a pro-life president," White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer told reporters at his first daily briefing. "He wants to stand up for all Americans, including the unborn, and I think the reinstatement of this policy is not just something that echoes that value, but respects taxpayer funding as well."..

At least that wasn't an alternative fact.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 23, 2017, 06:30:33 PM
Pro-life at the present time. Not always in the past. And the future?

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 24, 2017, 09:15:48 AM
Pro-life at the present time. Not always in the past. And the future?

No clue, I prefer my politicians to be pro choice!



Wynonna Judd Responds to Sister Ashley Judd’s Women’s March Speech: ‘The Whole Thing Is Toxic’


www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/wynonna-judd-responds-to-ashley-judds-womens-march-speech-w462617


I was wondering if Wynonna would weigh in.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 24, 2017, 02:04:26 PM

That headline you quoted above makes it sound like Wynonna's opinion of
Ashley's speech is toxic and that is not what she's actually saying when you
read the actual article, which most people don't, it's a lot more complicated,
so you should clarify what you are posting.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 24, 2017, 02:24:18 PM
Oh no I did not mean to imply that at all.   I would hope people check links, I know we are told not to post more than a paragraph of an article (if that) so it is hard to know what parts to post, sometimes they are quite lengthy.

I could never see Winona dissing her sister, I find that family very interesting.  But agree that the situation has gotten toxic, it's all toxic lately.

And no end to it in sight.. I can't deal with it anymore.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 25, 2017, 07:59:06 AM
So I hear this morning that we are now to have a thorough investigation of voter fraud in the Presidential election. No doubt the result is a foregone conclusion--there was massive voter fraud--because that's what The Donald wants to hear.

Never mind that the responsible officials in any state who have spoken out--not to mention Speaker Ryan, of The Donald's own party--have said that there is no evidence of massive voter fraud, and there never has been any.

How much taxpayer money will be wasted on this particular travesty to suit The Donald's ego?

We really have gone down the rabbit hole.  >:(

Of course, the result that The Donald wants--there was massive voter fraud--will also serve as ammunition for that project dear to black and shriveled Republican hearts--requiring a photo ID in order to be able to vote.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: janiebbmart on January 25, 2017, 11:54:40 AM
This is a very funny video by a Dutch satirical show, extolling the virtues of the Netherlands in Trump-speak.  :laugh:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/24/dutch-tv-trolls-donald-trumps-america-first-speech-welcome-video/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 25, 2017, 12:41:47 PM
This is a very funny video by a Dutch satirical show, extolling the virtues of the Netherlands in Trump-speak.  :laugh:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/24/dutch-tv-trolls-donald-trumps-america-first-speech-welcome-video/


Thanks!  Love it!
I'm forwarding it around!
(Though I hate how much of a joke we are now.)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 25, 2017, 02:46:00 PM
I guess it's good, since T hates to be laughed at. This gets under his thin skin like nothing else.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 26, 2017, 10:11:39 AM
Well, it's not quite as bad as the Pope's visit, but many blocks of downtown Philadelphia are all tied in knots today because of the Republican Retreat. The Trumpence is putting in an appearance. Theresa May is coming across the Pond for it, too.

I'm glad I don't own a business in those blocks.

Already last evening when I was on my way home from work, the area was crawling with police officers in groups of two, four, or six.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 26, 2017, 12:09:11 PM

Let us know how it was when you go home tonight.

Why are Reoublicans retreating in Philadelphia?  Curious.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 26, 2017, 01:51:18 PM
Why are Republicans retreating in Philadelphia?  Curious.

Not a clue. Just heard the night before last that they're basically taking over the Loew's Hotel on Market Street until tomorrow. We're a short and easy train ride from Washington, so maybe that had something to do with it. It's been put about that most of them are arriving and departing by train.

I don't expect to have any trouble other than to change my route from the subway to the gym slightly.

Unless there is some demonstration going on where I come out of the subway at City Hall. ...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: BlueJeanJeannie on January 26, 2017, 02:01:33 PM
This is a very funny video by a Dutch satirical show, extolling the virtues of the Netherlands in Trump-speak.  :laugh:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/24/dutch-tv-trolls-donald-trumps-america-first-speech-welcome-video/

Hm. Why didn't I think of posting it here?  :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 26, 2017, 02:43:51 PM
Not a clue. Just heard the night before last that they're basically taking over the Loew's Hotel on Market Street until tomorrow. We're a short and easy train ride from Washington, so maybe that had something to do with it. It's been put about that most of them are arriving and departing by train.

I don't expect to have any trouble other than to change my route from the subway to the gym slightly.

Unless there is some demonstration going on where I come out of the subway at City Hall. ...

I'm a bit surprised that GOP politicians would deign to take the train. Joe Biden kinda ruined it for them.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 26, 2017, 02:56:33 PM
I wish CNN would stop playing directly into Trump’s hand by spending hour after hour dissecting every one of his words.  He lives for that.  They need to report what he’s doing then move on. 

AC has 6 guests every night and all they do is go back and forth discussing the latest crazy thing that Trump said or did.  They should report it, and maybe have a half hour show on Sunday devoted to his craziness (and so they could play the SNL skits), but that’s it.  There’s more going on in the world than Trump spending our money on an investigation about why 3 million people didn’t like him last November. 

Look up narcissist in the dictionary and guess who’s there…


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 26, 2017, 03:00:29 PM
On the coverage leading up to Trump speaking at the retreat, CNN reported that the president of Mexico canceled his trip here next week, saying he was angry that T is building the wall.

In his speech, T said that it was a mutual decision...lies come too easy to him...I guess after doing it his whole life, it would be easier now.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on January 26, 2017, 03:18:26 PM
How many BBC/ITV, UK ...reporters are actually over there in the USA telling us what Trump is doing from moment to moment ?? They have been over there for weeks !
Wonder there is anyone left over here in the studios tell us whats happening in our own country !!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 26, 2017, 03:35:43 PM
Well now we know how the wall is getting paid for!   8)


President Donald Trump has decided he will seek to pay for the wall on the US's southern border by imposing a 20% tax on imports from Mexico and as part of a larger comprehensive tax reform plan, the White House said Thursday.

White House press secretary Sean Spicer said the comprehensive tax reform package Trump and Republicans are looking to put together will include taxing imports from other countries, like Mexico.


"By doing it that we can do $10 billion a year and easily pay for the wall just through that mechanism alone. That's really going to provide the funding," Spicer said, referring to a 20% tax. According to the Office of the US Trade Representative, Mexico's exports to the US in 2015 was valued at $316.4 billion. The trade deficit is estimated to be $50 billion.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 26, 2017, 03:36:58 PM
He probably thinks that by putting a tax on such imports that Mexicans will be paying the tax.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 26, 2017, 03:40:34 PM
they already walked that back...does that mean someone on his staff can actually speak truth to madness power?

Shortly after he announced the proposal in an unscheduled "gaggle" with reporters on Air Force One, Spicer clarified to a separate group of reporters in the West Wing that it was just one proposal. "There are clearly a bunch of ways it can be done," he said. "The point is American taxpayers are not going to fund it."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 26, 2017, 03:51:46 PM
He probably thinks that by putting a tax on such imports that Mexicans will be paying the tax.

they would be yes and 316.4 billion Mexico in exporting to the U.S. begs the question, why are all these products not being made in the U.S., which is the next part of his plan I guess.

Run it like a business, that is what he has been saying all along..
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 26, 2017, 03:55:13 PM
it's not a business, it's a government.  Mexico will then tax our imports which will drive up costs...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 26, 2017, 03:57:37 PM
Cooler heads are apparently prevailing, at least temporarily.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 26, 2017, 03:58:55 PM
I am just repeating what he said, run it like a business.   And bring manufacturing back to your own country! 



The White House spokesman defended the proposed tax as something that '160 other countries do,' however.

'Right now our country’s policy is to tax exports and let imports flow freely in,' he said. 'Which is ridiculous.' Moments later he added, 'We are probably the only major country that doesn’t treat imports this way.'

'This gets us in line frankly with the policies that the other countries around the world treat our products.'

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on January 26, 2017, 04:23:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnn2XVtx1i0


Now for something completely different.

Bet those kiddies never want to get in a bath tub again  >:(
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 26, 2017, 05:55:32 PM
Mar-a-Lago membership fee doubles to $200,000

Donald Trump’s luxury resort in Florida is making the most of his leap into the White House by doubling its initiation fee to $200,000, it was reported Wednesday.

The price hike at Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach took effect on Jan. 1, less than two months after Trump’s defeat of Hillary Clinton, according to CNBC.

A Reuters report said the increase occurred in two phases — from $100,000 to $150,000 in June, and then to $200,000 this month.

The timing raised red flags for a government watchdog.

“It sure looks like he’s using the presidency to line his pockets,” said Jordan Libowitz of the Center for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, DC.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 26, 2017, 06:19:45 PM
I'm a bit surprised that GOP politicians would deign to take the train. Joe Biden kinda ruined it for them.

Maybe they chartered a private one.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 26, 2017, 06:20:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnn2XVtx1i0


Now for something completely different.

Bet those kiddies never want to get in a bath tub again  >:(

OMG! If that didn't traumatize them for life, nothing will. That was barbaric.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 26, 2017, 06:22:36 PM
Donald Trump has ordered his new administration to publish a weekly list of crimes committed by immigrants.

The US President’s sweeping new executive order on immigration, which he signed on the fifth day of his presidency, includes a paragraph mandating the Secretary for Homeland Security to “make public a comprehensive list of criminal actions committed by aliens” in the US...


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-publish-weekly-list-crimes-immigrants-commit-refugees-aliens-executive-order-us-a7546826.html
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 26, 2017, 06:23:25 PM
Let us know how it was when you go home tonight.

No problems. The streets were closed to vehicular traffic, but the sidewalks were still open to pedestrians.

I did see one demonstration of some kind come west on Walnut Street and turn north on Twelfth Street, toward the Loew's Hotel.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 26, 2017, 06:24:32 PM
Mar-a-Lago membership fee doubles to $200,000
“It sure looks like he’s using the presidency to line his pockets,” said Jordan Libowitz of the Center for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, DC.

Of course he is. He is not doing anything that will not benefit him now, or in the long run.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 26, 2017, 06:44:50 PM
No doubt the crime figures will be entirely reliable.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 27, 2017, 11:36:15 AM
watching the press conference with dt and PM May, the differences between the two as they answer questions are astounding.  Not siding for or against her, but it's the difference between a polished professional and the spoiled rookie trying to impress the cheerleaders...

a BBC journalist asked him a multi-part question that ended with "what do you say to our viewers at home who are worried about some of your views, and worried about you becoming leader of the free world."

First of all - thank you!

His answer?  “This was your choice of a first question? There goes that relationship,”
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 27, 2017, 11:42:45 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/0d/a5/05/0da505796a2072d47f6ff67e73104149.jpg)

3 comments on twitter:

Its a good thing the adult (May) answered his question.

I would call him a child, but that is an insult to children everywhere.

This is going to end with Trump lobbing nukes into Yorkshire.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 27, 2017, 11:49:21 AM


His answer?  “This was your choice of a first question? There goes that relationship,”


That just made me laugh out loud!


Anyway he has apparently accepted an invitation from The Queen for a state visit - God save the Queen!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 27, 2017, 11:59:35 AM
She'd better guard her felines.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 27, 2017, 11:59:50 AM
watching the press conference with dt and PM May, the differences between the two as they answer questions are astounding.  Not siding for or against her, but it's the difference between a polished professional and the spoiled rookie trying to impress the cheerleaders...

a BBC journalist asked him a multi-part question that ended with "what do you say to our viewers at home who are worried about some of your views, and worried about you becoming leader of the free world."

First of all - thank you!

His answer?  “This was your choice of a first question? There goes that relationship,”

Oh, God. ...  :(
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 27, 2017, 12:02:38 PM
Anyway he has apparently accepted an invitation from The Queen for a state visit - God save the Queen!

I repeat, Oh, God. ...

Although watching that might make for some high-class entertainment. ...

Maybe he'll try to buy Buckingham Palace. ...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 27, 2017, 12:06:34 PM
(http://basementrejects.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/naked-gun-from-the-files-of-police-squad-frank-drebin-tackles-queen-elizabeth-leslie-nielsen-jeannette-charles-review.jpg)


All I can think of is this!  :laugh:


First President in the White House without a dog/pet lets hope he doesn't kick a Corgie or something..
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on January 27, 2017, 01:14:15 PM
Borowitz Report:

“This two-hundred-and-forty-year experiment in self-rule began with the best of intentions, but I think we can all agree that it didn’t end well,” she said.

The Queen urged Americans to write in her name on Election Day, after which the transition to British rule could begin “with a minimum of bother.”

(Satire)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 27, 2017, 01:17:47 PM
He probably thinks that by putting a tax on such imports that Mexicans will be paying the tax.

they would be yes and 316.4 billion Mexico in exporting to the U.S. begs the question, why are all these products not being made in the U.S., which is the next part of his plan I guess.

Run it like a business, that is what he has been saying all along..


Bubba, Mexico/Mexicans would NOT be paying the tax on the imports. The imports coming into the U.S.
would be sold to U.S. customers at higher prices, so the U.S. populace would be paying the tax and, in
essence, paying for the wall, if that occurs.

And, this problem of illegal immigration that is so worrying Trump and his people...studies show that in the past ten years
more Mexican immigrants have left the United States and returned to Mexico than vice-versa.  The reason for that is because
Mexico's manufacturing base has grown and so they have jobs there and are not migrating to the U.S.  It also means, because
a lot of these workers have jobs, and money, they can afford to buy U.S. products that we export to them.

If we try to export more and more products to Mexico and they have no base of people with jobs to buy these products,
what the heck good does that do?

Trump's misguided plan is to make Americans pay more for the cheap goods coming across the border and lessen Mexico's
manufacturing base which keeps Mexicans in Mexico.  What he's proposing would cause higher prices for consumers and
more immigrants coming to the U.S. looking for work and less Mexicans with money to buy anything we export there, which,
in turn, means more unemployed workers in the U.S.

Trump is a first class ass.

And, if you didn't think so before, after he was interviewed when he had to take David Muir over to a photo of people at his
inauguration to show him how much he is adulated by all these people in the photo and how massive the crowd was and how
many people, the most ever, were there, and his continued statements about how millions of illegal votes were cast against
him, the only reason at all that he was not the recipient of the MOST votes and this massive vote fraud occurred and that
"not one of these illegal votes came to me, believe me"...if people do not think this man has a serious mental disease and this
mental case won't continue to harm us all in ways both big and small as long as he's there, then I don't know what to tell you.

I really absolutely abhor this man, have no appetite to give him ANY benefit of the doubt, to put up with his idiocy nor to believe
anything he has to say because he says everything.  He is a seriously unstable mental case.

(http://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2017_04/1878636/170125-greenpeace-resist-banner-ok-1059_8e9531022931864de559c802600b9aa0.nbcnews-fp-1200-800.jpg)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 27, 2017, 01:25:00 PM
First President in the White House without a dog/pet.

Of course not, that's a trait that humans possess.

He wouldn't want anything around that could possibly take attention away from himself.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/73/ab/3c/73ab3cf7f5aa0c3f0cafda353676cd21.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 27, 2017, 02:00:41 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/73/ab/3c/73ab3cf7f5aa0c3f0cafda353676cd21.jpg)

Oh, if only. ...

If I were ever to march in a protest, I would want a sign with a picture of The Donald behind bars, and the wording, "Lock Him Up!"
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 27, 2017, 02:04:44 PM
Trump is a first class ass.

Hmm. I was going to say that I prefer idiot myself, because I don't want to insult asses, but then I realized that I don't want to insult idiots, either.

Seems no matter what I come up with, he's an insult to it.  ::)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 27, 2017, 02:14:35 PM
Yes Lyle I have since had the whole import/export thing explained to me, hopefully "someone" is explaining it all to him..

As for 007 and the Queen!  :laugh:

Is he actually mentally ill, you have to ask yourself don't you?   I was just reading this, interesting stuff:


http://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2017-01-27/does-donald-trumps-personality-make-him-dangerous


And funny you said about Mexican Immigrants leaving the U.S. to go back to Mexico, very true!


I just read between 2009 and 2014,  “1 million Mexicans and their families (including U.S.-born children) left the U.S. for Mexico.”

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 27, 2017, 05:06:50 PM

If only Trump would go to Mexico...and THEN we build the wall.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 27, 2017, 05:23:28 PM

Is he actually mentally ill, you have to ask yourself don't you?   I was just reading this, interesting stuff:

http://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2017-01-27/does-donald-trumps-personality-make-him-dangerous


I asked myself and the answer is YES.

It's been there all along;  you only need to know that he spent years alleging President Obama was not born
in the United States.  That, in itself, shows a huge lack of intelligence and/or willful ignorance and/or deceit.
Who is surprised by  a n y t h i n g  that comes afterwards?

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 28, 2017, 09:18:32 AM
The West Wing was prophetic in so many things, but none more than this.  The youtube clip is good, but it left out the best sentence.

Josh sends Donna to listen to a motivational speaker who has counseled the Republican candidate.  Josh thinks the speaker is a buffoon who rips off great philosophical thinkers, and it's a dangerous sign of unoriginal thinking.  They review the seminar...

“What does this remind you of? “I believe in hope, not fear.” “I’m a leader, not a politician.” “It’s time for an American leader.” “America’s earned a change.” “I before ‘E’ except after ‘C’!” It’s the fortune-cookie candidacy! These are important thinkers, and understanding them can be very useful and it’s not ever going to happen at a four-hour seminar. When the President’s got an embassy surrounded in Haiti, or a keyhole photograph of a heavy water reactor, or any of the fifty life-and-death matters that walk across his desk every day, I don’t know if he’s thinking about Immanuel Kant or not. I doubt it, but if he does, I am comforted at least in my certainty that he is doing his best to reach for all of it and not just the McNuggets. Is it possible we would be willing to require any less of the person sitting in that chair? The low road? I don’t think it is.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXbbysme4yk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXbbysme4yk)

And I am officially following Gail the Fish on twitter...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 28, 2017, 09:31:24 AM
They're all bad, but Exhibit E shows the contrast between dt and, you know, a man...

Melania Hates Donald: A Theory
http://jezebel.com/melania-hates-donald-a-theory-1791428158 (http://jezebel.com/melania-hates-donald-a-theory-1791428158)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 28, 2017, 10:52:01 AM
Well, don't need her anymore...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdCLAAsWoAEEP16.jpg)


Trump bars door to refugees, visitors from seven mainly Muslim nations

@Marina_Sirtis
Trump cites 9/11 in his Muslim ban but leaves out Egypt, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and UAE which is where the terrorists actually came from.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 28, 2017, 11:13:08 AM
Josh thinks the speaker is a buffoon who rips off great philosophical thinkers, and it's a dangerous sign of unoriginal thinking.
[...]
"I doubt it, but if he does, I am comforted at least in my certainty that he is doing his best to reach for all of it and not just the McNuggets.”

It's hard to cope with a Trump supported electorate that just does not care about any of that.
Or, worse, they've been conditioned to distrust facts aka the truth.

Example:

Quote from MiloMorris, post #5486 on the previous news thread:
(P.S.: What's the window in being able to quote old posts?  This one was less than two months ago.)

Quote
[...]  I'm not going to get into the weeds with you on any of the details of the accusations you've been making about Trump. Your opinion is that all that stuff is correct and/or important. Those of us that voted him into office think exactly the opposite.

Is Trump is the least original thinker ever?  His slogan "Make America Great Again" was Ronald Reagan's.  Not only did
he appropriate it, he copyrighted it to make money.

And, yes, "EXHIBIT E" is terribly stark and horribly sad.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 28, 2017, 11:15:49 AM
As many may know, The White House website has a place you can "petition" them.
If a petition gets 100,000 or more signatures, they have to respond, not that they'll
do anything about it. There are some good ones on there now.  It takes less than a
minute. (They send an email back to you that you have to click once to make it count.)
A petition needs to get enough signatures in one month's time.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/

I signed these three just now:

IMMEDIATELY RELEASE DONALD TRUMP'S FULL TAX RETURNS, WITH ALL INFORMATION NEEDED TO VERIFY EMOLUMENTS CLAUSE COMPLIANCE.
404,875 SIGNED 100,000 GOAL


CIVIL RIGHTS & EQUALITY
DEMAND TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ADD LGBT RIGHTS, CLIMATE CHANGE, AND CIVIL RIGHTS BACK TO LIST OF ISSUES ON WH.GOV SITE
6,517 SIGNED 100,000 GOAL


ARTS & TECHNOLOGY: EDUCATION
DO NOT DEFUND THE NEA OR NEH
PLEDGE TO CONTINUE FUNDING THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE ARTS AND THE NATIONAL ENDOWMENT FOR THE HUMANITIES
1,130 SIGNED 100,000 GOAL


Of course, there's also the usual highly partisan, and ridiculous, ones, like this:

Issue an International Arrest Warrant for George Soros
(I am willing to bet bigly that Democrats know infinitely less about George Soros
than Republican voters do. Though what they do know is usually incorrect.)

Others:

Charge Madonna with Terrorist Threats against the president of the United States of America.
Arrest and detainment of singer Madonna.
Investigate Hillary Clinton for crimes committed against the People and Government of the United States.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 28, 2017, 11:20:58 AM
Well, don't need her anymore...
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdCLAAsWoAEEP16.jpg)
Trump bars door to refugees, visitors from seven mainly Muslim nations
@Marina_Sirtis
Trump cites 9/11 in his Muslim ban but leaves out Egypt, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and UAE which is where the terrorists actually came from.

Well you know how Trump feels about women:

(http://www.repostuj.pl/upload/2016/11/132555_e780e932542b3f5fbf520bcf4d0005e9.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 28, 2017, 11:55:22 AM
That link is disturbing, I had never seen the footage of her laughing and then him turning and looking at her and her just stopping cold - that was kind of chilling - she looked like a Stepford Wife!!


As for him walking ahead of her, that was a joke, he sprinted up those stairs and was greeting the Obama's before she was even out the car.


I saw an article at the Daily Mail, showing that footage and then it shows when the Obama's arrived on his  inauguration day, Michelle and him walked up together and then Michelle went ahead of him.

It showed the Bush's arrive at his, they walked up the steps holding hands.


Then it showed the Clinton's, and funny Chelsea took the lead up the stairs, followed by Bill and Hillary.

Chivalry is dead where Trump is concerned, never mind protocol..


I wonder if Melania and him were on their last legs before this election, but now she (like the rest of us) is stuck with him.  Or are we??


Blink Twice If You Need Help Melania!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 28, 2017, 12:28:22 PM
Iraqi who worked as a translator for the U.S. army for ten years is released after being held overnight at JFK airport alongside 12 others in Trump immigrant ban confusion

    Iraqi refugee detained at New York airport walked free on Saturday afternoon

    Hameed Khalid Darweesh had been held in detention for 17 hours at JFK airport

    Seven migrants stopped from boarding Cairo flight to New York on Saturday

    It came just hours after Trump signed an executive order with tough new bans

    Those already flying when order came into effect were detained on arrival

    Others trying to fly from banned countries were blocked from boarding planes

    Google earlier called on employees to return to U.S. immediately fearing bans


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4166762/Immigration-stopping-visa-holders-Trump-ban.html#ixzz4X5PJNyr2
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Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 28, 2017, 12:29:23 PM
It's The Omen come to life

chocolatechipcookiesforbreakfast
MichellePar
1/20/17 9:26pm
What if she is a sleeper agent and her only mission is to kill trump?

She was really going to college, then she got recruited, learnt languages and posed for the naked pics just to entice the trump, they printed these fake magazines only to convince him he was dating a top model, Barron is not trump’s kid, he is the son of Putin, once Melania gets rid of trump Putin will dictate the faith of USA through Barron.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 28, 2017, 12:37:17 PM
yeah, let's cut sanctions to Russia, good idea...

Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence

Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/27/russian-parliament-decrimiinalizes-domestic-violence/97129912/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/27/russian-parliament-decrimiinalizes-domestic-violence/97129912/)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 28, 2017, 12:46:25 PM
"INAUGURATION DAY" — A Bad Lip Reading of Donald Trump's Inauguration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gneBUA39mnI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gneBUA39mnI)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 28, 2017, 01:04:28 PM
Iraqi who worked as a translator for the U.S. army for ten years is released after being held overnight at JFK airport alongside 12 others in Trump immigrant ban confusion.

Apparently, there's a lot of people in Britain who have the same mindset as the U.S. Trump supporters, judging by the horrible comments on this article.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 28, 2017, 01:16:35 PM
Trump bars door to refugees, visitors from seven mainly Muslim nations

@Marina_Sirtis
Trump cites 9/11 in his Muslim ban but leaves out Egypt, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia and UAE which is where the terrorists actually came from.

Well, that article Bubba linked explains that:

Muslim-majority countries with ties to Trump's business empire have been excluded from the order, Bloomberg News reports. Statistics show Trump doesn't have any business relations with the seven black-listed countries, but does with Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Turkey.

It's all about doing something as long as he can make money out of it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4166762/Immigration-stopping-visa-holders-Trump-ban.html#ixzz4X5VMuS00
___

I am not prone to violence or even thoughts of violence, but this man is bringing up more and
more dark thoughts in me. I can only imagine what people who are prone to violence are
experiencing.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 28, 2017, 01:25:49 PM
"INAUGURATION DAY" — A Bad Lip Reading of Donald Trump's Inauguration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gneBUA39mnI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gneBUA39mnI)

It's so good to counter the bad feelings with humor!  Thanks for that, I'd seen a brief
clip of this, but not the entire thing!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 28, 2017, 02:59:09 PM
yeah, let's cut sanctions to Russia, good idea...

Russia parliament votes 380-3 to decriminalize domestic violence

Russia's parliament voted 380-3 on Friday to decriminalize domestic violence in cases where it does not cause "substantial bodily harm" and does not occur more than once a year.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/27/russian-parliament-decrimiinalizes-domestic-violence/97129912/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/01/27/russian-parliament-decrimiinalizes-domestic-violence/97129912/)

I wonder if they're going to specify the thickness of the club a man may use to beat his wife?  :(
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 28, 2017, 05:25:36 PM
It's The Omen come to life

chocolatechipcookiesforbreakfast
MichellePar
1/20/17 9:26pm
What if she is a sleeper agent and her only mission is to kill trump?

She was really going to college, then she got recruited, learnt languages and posed for the naked pics just to entice the trump, they printed these fake magazines only to convince him he was dating a top model, Barron is not trump’s kid, he is the son of Putin, once Melania gets rid of trump Putin will dictate the faith of USA through Barron.

I have a friend and the OMEN is her favourite movie, sent this to her and she just about died laughing.   Now we are thinking DEAD ZONE!



Johnny loads a rifle and takes aim at Stillson at a rally held in a church. His shot misses the target, but Stillson grabs Sarah's baby and holds him as a human shield. A photographer snaps a picture of Stillson holding the baby just as Johnny is shot by a security guard. Confronted by an angry Stillson, a fatally wounded Johnny grabs his hand. He now foresees Stillson's reputation and political ambitions being ruined, after the photograph of his cowardly act is published in the media for all to see ("No Future For Stillson", reads Newsweek); Stillson will then shoot himself. Johnny tells Stillson he's finished. Sarah embraces Johnny and tells him she loves him as he dies.



Maybe this Trump Presidency is putting up all around the bend.. ???
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 29, 2017, 10:11:39 AM
1941 Dr. Seuss cartoon criticizing America's stance on denying Jews safe haven.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3Rjc5DWEAAiiLQ.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 29, 2017, 10:18:09 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/fb/23/60/fb23604fe10d617fcbd651b523ce55c9.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 29, 2017, 11:40:59 AM

Donald Trump Muslim Ban Will Keep OscarNominated
Director Asghar Farhadi from Attending 2017 Ceremony


Farhadi's film The Salesman is nominated in the Foreign Language category alongside Land of Mine (Denmark),
Toni Erdmann (Germany), A Man Called Ove (Sweden) and Tanna (Australia).  The director made awards history
in 2012 when his film A Separation became the first Iranian film to win an Oscar.


http://www.independent.co/arts/news/muslim-ban-a7550751.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/donald-trump-muslim-ban-oscars-2017-director-asghar-farhadi-iran-the-salesman-a7550751.html)

AMPAS statement:

“As supporters of filmmakers — and the human rights of all people — around the globe, we find it extremely troubling that Asghar Farhadi, the director of the Oscar-winning film from Iran ‘A Separation,’ along with the cast and crew of this year’s Oscar-nominated film The Salesman, could be barred from entering the country because of their religion or country of origin.”


The Constitution is Being Trumpled On

http://www.npr.org/2017/01/28/511996783/ (http://www.npr.org/2017/01/28/511996783/how-does-trumps-immigration-freeze-square-with-his-business-interests)

"I don't believe that our Constitution allows the president to order State Department and other U.S. government employees to discriminate between otherwise identical people, favoring those from countries he likes because they give him unconstitutional foreign emoluments, and punishing those from other countries that do not pay such personal and illegal tribute to him."

 "Normally he would, of course, have freer rein legally in these foreign policy, immigration and refugee matters, but his open and notorious violation of the Constitution changes that. This is the corrupt misconduct of a medieval potentate, not an American president."

"...the executive action may lead to lawsuits, for example by American citizens whose family members are now barred from joining them in this country. These decisions about who to let in and not to let into the United States can now be challenged, because there's an unconstitutional basis for the president's decision," he said.

--Norman Eisen, ethics adviser to President Obama and a current fellow in governance studies at the Brookings Institution
___

"Trump is carpet-bombing U.S. foreign policy."

"One might think that Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the two countries that nearly all the 9/11 hijackers came from — and which are currently known to be backing ISIS and other terrorists, in Saudi Arabia's case, and facing serious terror attacks on their own soil largely in response to government repression, in Egypt's — would be included in Trump's twisted analysis as potential sources of terrorism. But no, those countries were ignored. Conflicts of interest? Nah, just a coincidence."

--The Institute for Policy Studies

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 29, 2017, 12:04:48 PM
Why I happened to see this image online today, who knows.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/a0/a8/c9/a0a8c9774800eef521b9ef9526328d36.jpg)

Before the election I might have answered cell phones.
Now the answer is sooooo obvious.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 29, 2017, 12:24:00 PM

To me, this image is what the last year and a half has felt like ever since Trump announced he
was running for President and his followers and the media kept enabling this abomination.
America was under siege. Now it's the world under siege.  This image was published on the
cover of Germany's Der Spiegel Magazine right after the election.  In one image it symbolizes
it all to me and what is happening.

(https://fsmedia.imgix.net/cd/77/06/4b/1743/4039/ba69/e8b5465dd5fb/the-latest-der-spiegel-cover-portrays-donald-trump-as-a-world--destroying-asteroid.jpeg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 29, 2017, 12:33:30 PM
I watched Fox news this morning, to see how they're reporting the ban...the 3 clowns on the morning show defended it to the hilt, it was amazing to hear their rationale, they were like robots.  I could only watch it for about 30 seconds...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 29, 2017, 12:33:44 PM
  To those fleeing persecution, terror & war, Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength #WelcomeToCanada

    — Justin Trudeau (@JustinTrudeau) January 28, 2017




 :-*  He is a liberal and a feminist and he looks like this, and no you can't have him!  :laugh:


(http://muslimgirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/justin-trudeau-2-e1454085360567.jpeg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 29, 2017, 12:40:43 PM
You Will Not Normalize Trump To Me: Not Today Satan
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 29, 2017, 12:41:48 PM
(https://img0.etsystatic.com/176/0/10009164/il_570xN.1088574150_59pp.jpg)

https://www.etsy.com/listing/493837269/not-today-satan-anti-trump-pin-225-in (https://www.etsy.com/listing/493837269/not-today-satan-anti-trump-pin-225-in)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 29, 2017, 01:33:14 PM
More than 550,000 people have signed a petition demanding Donald Trump's state visit to the UK be cancelled in the wake of his Muslim travel ban. The enormous response easily passed the 100,000 target needed for MPs to consider holding a debate on the motion in the House of Commons this morning, with more and more people flocking to sign it as the day has gone on. It is currently rising at an average of more than 1,000 signatures per minute. Plans for a state visit for President Trump were only announced 48 hours ago when Theresa May revealed he had accepted an invitation from the Queen.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 29, 2017, 01:45:02 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/VL4l70jdsdxgA/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 29, 2017, 01:46:58 PM

Fritz, would you mind translating what this original cover says?
Thanks!

(http://www.adweek.com/core/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2016/11/DerSpiegel_11_11_2016_Cover.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 29, 2017, 01:47:52 PM

Months before the 2016 U.S. presidential election took place, Dan P. McAdams, a psychology
professor at Northwestern University, set out to better understand Donald Trump, and how
his personality might influence the way he would govern if he were ever to be elected. The
new updated article from The Atlantic:

'He's Going to Continue to Create Chaos'

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/donald-trump-president/514802/

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 29, 2017, 01:50:17 PM
Fritz, would you mind translating what this original cover says?
Thanks!

(http://www.adweek.com/core/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2016/11/DerSpiegel_11_11_2016_Cover.jpg)

the end of the world as we know it
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 29, 2017, 02:05:54 PM
the end of the world as we know it

Yup--both as to the translation and to the sentiment expressed.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 29, 2017, 02:09:14 PM
Fritz, would you mind translating what this original cover says?
Thanks!

(http://www.adweek.com/core/wp-content/uploads/sites/9/2016/11/DerSpiegel_11_11_2016_Cover.jpg)

It says "The End of the World As We Know It".

Way too true.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on January 29, 2017, 02:10:10 PM
Ah! We have a multitude of translators!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on January 29, 2017, 03:07:46 PM
More than 550,000 people have signed a petition demanding Donald Trump's state visit to the UK be cancelled in the wake of his Muslim travel ban. The enormous response easily passed the 100,000 target needed for MPs to consider holding a debate on the motion in the House of Commons this morning, with more and more people flocking to sign it as the day has gone on. It is currently rising at an average of more than 1,000 signatures per minute. Plans for a state visit for President Trump were only announced 48 hours ago when Theresa May revealed he had accepted an invitation from the Queen.

750,000 and rising...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 29, 2017, 03:25:51 PM

 >:( :(
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 29, 2017, 03:52:04 PM
Someone on Michael Moore's face book page just said:


First time Trump leaves the country, he should not be allowed back in. Taken word for word from the executive order he signed on Friday: "The United States should not admit those who engage in acts of bigotry or hatred (...other forms of violence against women, or the persecution of those who practice religions different from their own) or those who would oppress Americans of any race, gender, or sexual orientation".
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 29, 2017, 05:57:37 PM
More than 550,000 people have signed a petition demanding Donald Trump's state visit to the UK be cancelled in the wake of his Muslim travel ban. The enormous response easily passed the 100,000 target needed for MPs to consider holding a debate on the motion in the House of Commons this morning, with more and more people flocking to sign it as the day has gone on. It is currently rising at an average of more than 1,000 signatures per minute. Plans for a state visit for President Trump were only announced 48 hours ago when Theresa May revealed he had accepted an invitation from the Queen.

I wish Her Majesty would retract her invitation. And no other head of state should invite him, either.

Not that that would have any effect on him. They would all be in the wrong for not inviting him. ...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 29, 2017, 06:33:38 PM
I know this is soooo totally silly to put here among the Trump posts, but I love the fact that a saying that started with a drag queen  (Bianca Del Rio - RuPaul's Drag Race season 6) is suddenly becoming a huge meme.


"Not today Satan, not today," comes from the show RuPaul's Drag Race, and was said by season 6's winner Bianca Del Rio who served us some clown realness. The meaning means the devil a.k.a. Satan will not get in your way today.

"I was wondering if you were going to turn out a look that we haven't already seen before?" Said Courtney Act

" Not today Satan, not today." said Bianca Del Rio


(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/e4/9e/c3/e49ec3f21cdb5b3c8e45d64537ba586d.jpg)


the moment it was born.   LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGC4Xdls490
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on January 29, 2017, 07:28:33 PM
Yeah, that was a little extra dig, especially if pence sees it  :D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 29, 2017, 08:02:01 PM
Ah! We have a multitude of translators!

That was German 101.  ;)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on January 30, 2017, 03:09:26 AM
Hatred in Canada.😢
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 30, 2017, 04:50:38 AM

 :(
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 30, 2017, 11:00:14 AM
Hatred in Canada.😢

            ?

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 30, 2017, 11:02:20 AM
I know this is soooo totally silly to put here among the Trump posts, but I love the fact that a saying that started with a drag queen  (Bianca Del Rio - RuPaul's Drag Race season 6) is suddenly becoming a huge meme.

Not silly at all, Chuck, and totally apropos!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on January 30, 2017, 11:24:11 AM
            ?



Quebec mosque shooting: Police arrest a suspect and a witness
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38800907  (http://Quebec mosque shooting: Police arrest a suspect and a witness
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38800907)

Sorry, I didn't think it needed explaining.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 30, 2017, 11:41:43 AM
Quebec mosque shooting: Police arrest a suspect and a witness
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38800907  (http://Quebec mosque shooting: Police arrest a suspect and a witness
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38800907)

Sorry, I didn't think it needed explaining.

You know how U.S.-centric the news is here. I caught something--briefly--on TV news this morning, but I was out of the room at the time, and pretty much just heard that PM Trudeau said something about something.  :(
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on January 30, 2017, 11:54:06 AM
(https://i.cbc.ca/1.3958379.1485799806!/cpImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_620/quebec-mosque-shooting-20170130.jpg)


Just terrible, terrible....condolences are coming in from all over the world.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-reaction-mosque-shooting-1.3957938
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 31, 2017, 01:33:04 PM

(http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/northwestgeorgianews.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/f6/2f67cffc-e6a0-11e6-b69a-5f3806393847/588ebb9ed3381.image.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 31, 2017, 04:22:40 PM

From the HRC, the Human Rights Campaign, a national LGBT organization:

Yesterday, HRC learned that a possible "license to discriminate" executive order targeting lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer (LGBTQ) Americans is circulating through Donald Trump's White House.

Despite White House statements concerning President Obama's previous executive order, right now the administration is still considering executive actions that would allow government employees, taxpayer-funded organizations or even companies to discriminate against LGBTQ people. This announcement could come as early as this week. LGBTQ refugees, immigrants, Muslims and women are scared today, and with good reason. Donald Trump has done nothing but undermine equality since he set foot in the White House.

I want to be clear about something: The LGBTQ community has been under attack by this president and this administration since day one. On top of this, tonight Trump is slated to announce his pick for the Supreme Court — someone he’s already said would be in the same mold as the vehemently anti-LGBTQ predecessor. We would be naive to think that the Trump administration won’t pursue such an attack on equality. After all, Donald Trump campaigned on this promise.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 01, 2017, 09:51:15 AM
So The Donald has nominated Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court. Unfortunately, I guess he will probably also get to nominate a successor to Ruth Bader Ginsberg. I haven't heard or read anything, but she can't last forever.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 01, 2017, 11:18:31 AM

Of course, lots of talk about it, a lot of supporters of the Democrats want the Democrats in the Senate to
obstruct the nominee because of what the Republicans did when the seat became vacant A YEAR AGO.

I have to say, I am in that camp because I think that is the single worst thing the Republicans did
during President Obama's Presidency. There was no justification not to hold hearings and vote on
Merrick Garland except that the Republicans felt completely entitled to that seat and blatantly showed
their partisanship in the matter, led by the supreme douchebag Mitch McConnell. Their reasoning was
that "the primary process had already started and that it should be decided by "the people" in the then
upcoming election. (Never mind that "the people" elected President Obama and that this was HIS perogative.)
As for "the primary process being underway, it was underway for months prior to that. It was a blatant and
hypocritical power play by the Republicans and they got away with it.

And, if you recall, in early October, when the polls suggested Hillary Clinton would win, no other than John McCain
and others like Ted Cruz and MIke Lee (Utah) were publicly signaling that more unprecedented obstruction would
be on the horizon if Hillary Clinton won the White House. THey said “I promise you that we will be united against
any Supreme Court nominee that Hillary Clinton, if she were president, would put up. I promise you.”

I say, right back at ya.  It takes 60 votes in the Senate to approve a Supreme Court nominee, which means at least
eight Democratic senators need to vote yes on it.  I say obstruct as much as they did.  The Democrats always seem to
want to play nice ("When they go low, we go high"), but when do these SOB's ever have to pay for their obstruction?
It would only take 51 Senators to change the rules back to making it a simple majority to approve a Supreme Court
justice and they currently have the power to do that, and you know they would, so I say make them go on record and
show just exactly how partisan they are by doing that.  The Trump supporters were all whining about accountability, well
let's make them all accountable.  (And watch them whine about how they're the victim of partisan Democrats, boo hoo
hoo.) I'm writing to my two Democratic Senators right now to vote NO on this nominee.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 01, 2017, 12:18:35 PM
I agree with you, Lyle, obstruction, "douchebag," and all.  ;D  I'm just not taking up the space to quote you.  :)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 01, 2017, 02:50:40 PM
Meanwhile ...


Day 12 of the Obama vacation ... and you've NEVER seen Barack and Michelle Obama so relaxed.

Thong sandals? Check. Shades? Check. Panama hat and snapback cap? Check and check.

They're getting so comfortable touring their pal Sir Richard Branson's many Virgin Islands ... they might never come back. Honestly ... would you?

Sasha and Malia will be fine.



http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/01/barack-michelle-obama-vacation-virgin-islands/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 02, 2017, 08:18:53 AM
Meanwhile ...


Day 12 of the Obama vacation ... and you've NEVER seen Barack and Michelle Obama so relaxed.

Thong sandals? Check. Shades? Check. Panama hat and snapback cap? Check and check.

They're getting so comfortable touring their pal Sir Richard Branson's many Virgin Islands ... they might never come back. Honestly ... would you?

Sasha and Malia will be fine.



http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/01/barack-michelle-obama-vacation-virgin-islands/

So, what? They went off on a luxury vacation and made Sasha and Malia stay behind to go to school? If I were Sasha or Malia, I'd be pissed off at Mom and Dad.  :D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 02, 2017, 08:20:52 AM
I almost hate to say this, but I do believe The Donald did the right thing in going to Dover AFB for the return of the remains of the Navy SEAL who was killed in action.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 02, 2017, 11:07:09 AM
I almost hate to say this, but I do believe The Donald did the right thing in going to Dover AFB for the return of the remains of the Navy SEAL who was killed in action.

I absolutely agree with you!  :)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on February 02, 2017, 07:29:09 PM
That POS caused his death so, yeah, going there was the right thing to do. You two are turning into Trump apologists.

---------------

This video is worth watching. It brings up a good point: people are outraged by Trump's Muslim ban yet there was hardly a peep when Bush and Obama were bombing the shit out of the (Muslim) countries that refugees are trying to escape from.

http://stormcloudsgathering.com/trump-muslim-ban (http://stormcloudsgathering.com/trump-muslim-ban)


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 03, 2017, 07:28:50 AM
That POS caused his death so, yeah, going there was the right thing to do. You two are turning into Trump apologists.

I certainly am not. That comment is not the least bit funny, and I highly resent it.

I don't know what your PM does when dead Canadians are brought home, but when the remains of US military personnel who lose their lives in the line of duty are brought home to Dover, Del., AFB, the incumbent President always goes as a sign of the nation's respect. I agree with your assessment of The Donald, which makes it somewhat surprising to me that he actually did the right thing, as President, by going to Dover.

I can think of a choice abbreviation for you, too, but I won't write it or this post will be deleted.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 03, 2017, 07:42:56 AM
I read yesterday that a local TV news anchor (not on the station I usually watch) had been suspended for a week because he said on the air that Kellyanne Conway "is good at bullshit."

Evidently she's still at it. I heard this morning that she's now inventing terrorist incidents that never happened (ref. Bowling Green). If that's an "alternative fact," it's a whopper.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 03, 2017, 09:20:41 AM
A trump apologist?  :o


Anyway thought this was interesting:


Director Ang Lee blames Blair and Bush for Iraq 'mess'


The Oscar-winning director says the former Prime Minister Tony Blair and former President George W Bush left the Iraqi people with a choice between "dictatorship and chaos"...


http://news.sky.com/story/director-ang-lee-blames-blair-and-bush-for-iraq-mess-10751590
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on February 03, 2017, 03:09:18 PM



Director Ang Lee blames Blair and Bush for Iraq 'mess'


The Oscar-winning director says the former Prime Minister Tony Blair and former President George W Bush left the Iraqi people with a choice between "dictatorship and chaos"...

http://news.sky.com/story/director-ang-lee-blames-blair-and-bush-for-iraq-mess-10751590
Sorry if this goes against the grain....but I have to agree.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on February 03, 2017, 05:02:42 PM
I certainly am not. That comment is not the least bit funny, and I highly resent it.

I don't know what your PM does when dead Canadians are brought home, but when the remains of US military personnel who lose their lives in the line of duty are brought home to Dover, Del., AFB, the incumbent President always goes as a sign of the nation's respect. I agree with your assessment of The Donald, which makes it somewhat surprising to me that he actually did the right thing, as President, by going to Dover.

I can think of a choice abbreviation for you, too, but I won't write it or this post will be deleted.

I'm sorry if I offended you but it kind of irks me to see comments that normalise Trump. You can PM me that choice abbreviation if it makes you feel better.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on February 03, 2017, 05:04:21 PM
Sorry if this goes against the grain....but I have to agree.

I think NOT agreeing would go against the grain here.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on February 03, 2017, 05:11:10 PM
A trump apologist?  :o


Anyway thought this was interesting:

(...)

Well, your handle is the name of a white supremacist symbol, what am I to think? I suggest you add an acute accent to the second "e" at least. A French pussy-grabbing skunk would be better than a racist frog.  ;)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 03, 2017, 05:48:10 PM
I'm sorry if I offended you but it kind of irks me to see comments that normalise Trump. You can PM me that choice abbreviation if it makes you feel better.

I think that just because one despises The Donald (and I take second to no one in despising him), it's childish to refuse to recognize it when he does something that is both the duty of the POTUS and the right thing to do.

Besides, I said I almost hated to say it--I almost hated to say he did something that was right for him to do as POTUS.

'Nuff said.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 04, 2017, 09:03:10 AM
Well, your handle is the name of a white supremacist symbol, what am I to think? I suggest you add an acute accent to the second "e" at least. A French pussy-grabbing skunk would be better than a racist frog.  ;)

I have explained on here many times now, I was Lola, then I Bubba, now I am Pepe, I keep getting locked out for some reason and have to re-register and pick a new name.  This time I picked the name of my dog.    Not that I need to explain, can't say I have ever give much thought to anyone's board name.   I mean you are "oilgun" do you oil guns??  I really have no clue what that means.


And as Jeff says it is childish to not recognize when Trump does something good.  They are few and far between, they should be celebrated.

Cheering for him to fail is not going to serve anyone well, least of all U.S. citizens, or the rest of the world for that matter.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on February 04, 2017, 09:37:58 AM
Hardly necessary to cheer for him to fail.

Though I do find myself humming "We Shall Overcome" more and more.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 04, 2017, 10:55:53 AM
And as Jeff says it is childish to not recognize when Trump does something good.  They are few and far between, they should be celebrated.

I see it oilgun's way.  Trump thinks he does no wrong. If you're not adulating him you're against him. So it makes no difference
if you say "good dog" because he doesn't think he's ever been bad. So why give him credit?  Besides, what you're all saying is a
good thing was something expected from most human beings. Trump does it and it's like rewarding a dog with a treat. Trump
EXPECTS to be adulated for everything he does. If he does something good it's an accident. What the media should really do is
ignore him. That drives him crazy. He'd turn into Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction. ("I will not be ignored, Dan.") But it's ratings
and they won't.

Celebrated for doing the expected and/or right thing? No.
That's like celebrating a broken clock because it's right twice a day.

Cheering for him to fail is not going to serve anyone well, least of all U.S. citizens, or the rest of the world for that matter.

People are not cheering for him to fail. They're just reporting his failings. Which are huuge.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 04, 2017, 11:16:27 AM
no, they're cheering for him to fail...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on February 04, 2017, 10:51:49 PM
I have explained on here many times now, I was Lola, then I Bubba, now I am Pepe, I keep getting locked out for some reason and have to re-register and pick a new name.  This time I picked the name of my dog.    Not that I need to explain, can't say I have ever give much thought to anyone's board name.   I mean you are "oilgun" do you oil guns??  I really have no clue what that means.


And as Jeff says it is childish to not recognize when Trump does something good.  They are few and far between, they should be celebrated.

Cheering for him to fail is not going to serve anyone well, least of all U.S. citizens, or the rest of the world for that matter.

Oilgun is the best anagram of my name I could come up with: Gil Uno. It's just good luck that there is a brand of lube called Gun Oil.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on February 04, 2017, 10:57:01 PM
no, they're cheering for him to fail...

I am certainly cheering for him to fail because what he wants to do is horrific. There are already two new wars on the horizon: Iran and China.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on February 05, 2017, 07:13:25 AM
Oilgun is the best anagram of my name I could come up with: Gil Uno. It's just good luck that there is a brand of lube called Gun Oil.

Never knew that! (Any of it😀)

Glad I didn't go for SodaBran. Or Barn.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 05, 2017, 03:56:43 PM
^^^
LOL!
___________


fail

verb
1.) be unsuccessful in achieving one's goal.
2.) neglect to do something.
3.) break down; cease to work well.
noun
4.) a grade that is not high enough to pass an examination or test.

Trump's already accomplishing #'s 2, 3 & 4 and I'm working for #1.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: gnash on February 06, 2017, 01:36:13 PM
Well, your handle is the name of a white supremacist symbol, what am I to think? I suggest you add an acute accent to the second "e" at least. A French pussy-grabbing skunk would be better than a racist frog.  ;)

oh come ON... pepe1 doesn't have a blond wig over her screen name!  at least not yet.  ;D

it's awful that that ugly little green frog has been co-opted by the alt-right.

(it's like the nazis ruining the very beautiful and meaningful swastika symbol, which has been around for centuries. i love the swastika symbol, both visually and for its sanskrit meaning of "good fortune".. i first fell in love with it in japanese art, in gorgeous fabric patterning, and then saw it in indian restaurants, which, by the way, are constantly being roasted on yelp for utilizing the symbol in their dining room decor, even though their use and respect for the symbol has been around for thousands of years.)

i say, FREE PEPE!  before these neo-nazis ruin it for everyone. hopefully the artist behind the comic strip can sue the alt right and others for using his image without his consent.

but whatever, it's an ugly frog, so it makes sense that it's used to portray trump

(https://images.vice.com/motherboard/content-images/article/no-id/1473875030144977.png)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: gnash on February 06, 2017, 01:45:38 PM
Never knew that! (Any of it😀)

Glad I didn't go for SodaBran. Or Barn.

ooh, soda barn has a nice ring to it... :D



pepe1, here's an oil gun (https://www.amazon.com/Guardair-83SG-Syphon-Pneumatic-Oil/dp/B000KL2PMK). i'd wear eye protection.  ;)



Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 06, 2017, 07:32:00 PM

i say, FREE PEPE! 

 :laugh: :laugh:


White House Press Secretary Angrily Refutes New York Times Story: President Trump 'Definitely Doesn't Wear a Bathrobe'


http://people.com/politics/sean-spicer-new-york-times-story-trump-bathrobe/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on February 06, 2017, 07:40:47 PM
That'll show 'em.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 06, 2017, 08:41:05 PM
:laugh: :laugh:


White House Press Secretary Angrily Refutes New York Times Story: President Trump 'Definitely Doesn't Wear a Bathrobe'


http://people.com/politics/sean-spicer-new-york-times-story-trump-bathrobe/

 :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 07, 2017, 07:03:57 AM
Well, I guess Betsy DeVos will be confirmed to dismantle the Department of Education.

The news talkers keep saying that if there is a tie in the Senate, Pence will have to vote to break it. Nobody I've heard goes on to say that if he does, of course he will vote to confirm. It's what his boss wants. So she will be confirmed by one vote--Pence's.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 07, 2017, 09:27:37 AM
Meanwhile...


(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2017/02/07/0207-obama-branson-launch-4.jpg)


http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/07/barack-obama-richard-branson-kitesurfing/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 07, 2017, 09:35:04 AM
Well, I guess Betsy DeVos will be confirmed to dismantle the Department of Education.

The news talkers keep saying that if there is a tie in the Senate, Pence will have to vote to break it. Nobody I've heard goes on to say that if he does, of course he will vote to confirm. It's what his boss wants. So she will be confirmed by one vote--Pence's.

Sending an email note to both Republicans who are taking a stand and voting against her confirmation.
Both women, by the way -- Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Sen. Susan Collins of Maine.  I keep
saying the country would be better off if we had more women in the Congress.  Any women. Even
Republican women.  Well, some of them, I just thought of Joni Ernst. Of Iowa.

THe recent election and now this Senate vote just goes to show you that Republicans will vote for anyone,
no matter how unqualified they are.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 07, 2017, 09:51:18 AM
Sending an email note to both Republicans who are taking a stand and voting against her confirmation.
Both women, by the way -- Sen. Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Sen. Susan Collins of Maine.

I've seen Susan Collins on TV on a number of occasions, and she's always impressed me favorably. I wasn't familiar with Lisa Murkowski, but I heard her speak about how her constituents were so much against DeVos. She impressed me, too.

Quote
I keep
saying the country would be better off if we had more women in the Congress.  Any women. Even
Republican women.  Well, some of them, I just thought of Joni Ernst. Of Iowa.

Never heard of her. Probably don't want to.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 07, 2017, 11:03:08 AM
Harambe-shaped Cheeto reaches bid of nearly $100K on eBay

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/harambe-shaped-cheeto-reaches-bid-of-nearly-dollar100k-on-ebay/ar-AAmG08j


I really feel more and more we are living in the "upside down world".   :o
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 07, 2017, 11:15:23 AM
Well, I guess Betsy DeVos will be confirmed to dismantle the Department of Education.

The news talkers keep saying that if there is a tie in the Senate, Pence will have to vote to break it. Nobody I've heard goes on to say that if he does, of course he will vote to confirm. It's what his boss wants. So she will be confirmed by one vote--Pence's.

Well, it gives me no pleasure to say it, but Betsy DeVos has been confirmed by one vote--Pence's.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 07, 2017, 11:50:52 AM

So we now have a billionaire Education Secretary who never attended a Public School in her life.
Neither has her children. She has financial interests in organizations pushing charter schools. She
has shown she will push her conservative religious beliefs into her actions as Education Secretary.
She has NO experience in holding a job like this, but she has donated large amounts of money to
Republican candidates. Asked her opinion on guns in schools she said "some schools, in Utah for
example, might want guns to protect against grizzlies."

This woman will have to weigh in on the implementation of the Every Student Succeeds Act and possibly undo some of the previous administration's regulation initiatives on school accountability and spending, which have been criticized by Republicans as federal overreach. Rules on such things as accountability already have been on hold. She will have to address several hot-button issues in higher education, such as rising tuition costs, growing student debt and the troubled for-profit colleges, many of which have closed down, leaving students with huge loans and without a good education or job prospects. She will also have to react to Trump's campaign proposal of funneling $20 billion of public funds toward school vouchers and deal with sexual assault and freedom of speech issues on campuses.

Good luck America!

If this nominee can get through...if Trump nominated a gorilla shaped cheeto for a cabinet position I think the Republicans would vote to confirm it.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 08, 2017, 08:38:09 PM
I just read that some pundits--I don't know who--are talking about Al Franken to challenge The Donald in four years.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 09, 2017, 09:33:46 AM
Boris Johnson has given up his U.S. citizenship


http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/09/news/boris-johnson-us-citizenship/index.html


This may be a good thing!


He once described Barack Obama as a "part-Kenyan President" with an "ancestral dislike of the British Empire."

More recently, he suggested he would avoid visiting New York because of "the real risk of meeting Donald Trump." He has also likened Hillary Clinton's appearance to that of "a sadistic nurse in a mental hospital."



 :">
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 09, 2017, 10:34:51 AM
Boris Johnson has given up his U.S. citizenship

Hunh! I didn't know he had it!

I read in this morning's newspaper that over 20,000 people have signed a petition to recall (R) Pat Toomey, one of our senators from Pennsylvania. Unfortunately, voters have no right or ability under the U.S. Constitution to recall a senator.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 10, 2017, 09:45:49 AM
I can't recall ever knowing that, Jeff.  While the sentiment might be warranted, the energy
is wasted if it's not legal! I guess some think it's possible because there's been some high
profile recall elections in Governor's cases, Wisconsin (failed) and California (succeeded).

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 10, 2017, 09:51:07 AM
I can't recall ever knowing that, Jeff.  While the sentiment might be warranted, the energy
is wasted if it's not legal! I guess some think it's possible because there's been some high
profile recall elections in Governor's cases, Wisconsin (failed) and California (succeeded).

In ordinary times, I guess that petition would at least be worthwhile as a demonstration of how unhappy so many of Toomey's constituents are with him. But these aren't ordinary times.  :(

There's no provision for recall in the Pennsylvania Constitution either.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 10, 2017, 11:33:15 AM
I may be laughing all afternoon.  :D

Over lunch, I was reading the local morning newspaper, and from it I learned that Pennsylvania state Senator Daylin Leach (D, Montgomery Co. [Philadelphia suburbs]) has tweeted that The Donald is a "fascist, loofa-faced shit-gibbon."  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

I guess as of the time the newspaper article was written, the tweet had more than 12,000 retweets and almost 30,000 likes.  :D

Sen. Leach said he was inspired to tweet when he learned that The Donald had threatened to destroy the career of a Texas politician who favored legislation that would require a criminal conviction before law enforcement could seize people's assets through civil forfeiture. Sen. Leach also dared The Donald, "Why don't you try to destroy my career?"

(If anybody knows what a shit-gibbon is, please feel free to post. I'm sure it's something not very nice. :D )
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 10, 2017, 12:14:23 PM
So, at the risk of being accused yet again of trying to "normalize" The Donald. ...  ::)

When I read about The Donald whining because Nordstrom has dropped Ivanka's clothing line, it made me think of President Harry Truman writing a letter threatening to beat up a newspaper music critic who reported unfavorably on the singing of Truman's daughter Margaret.

I remember learning about this incident, and it's included in the one-man play Give Em' Hell, Harry, but it occurs to me that I don't know if the letter was common or public knowledge at the time, or only came out later.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on February 10, 2017, 04:14:38 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4207110/President-Hollande-praises-rape-victim.html

Hands up all those who believe this Police Officer's story ??  >:(

Okaaaay! Now hands up all those who believe in fairies ??

Yes.....the latter IS more believable.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 10, 2017, 06:59:01 PM
Okaaaay! Now hands up all those who believe in fairies ??

On a forum with a number of gay participants, you're asking who believes in fairies?  ;D  ;)

Yes, fairies are more believable.  ;D

(I can say that because I am one.  ;D )
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 11, 2017, 11:43:04 AM
I remember learning about this incident, and it's included in the one-man play Give Em' Hell, Harry, but it occurs to me that I don't know if the letter was common or public knowledge at the time, or only came out later.

It was quite well-known at the time that Truman was having this "feud" with a columinst who dissed his daughter.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on February 11, 2017, 12:01:45 PM
Apparently Truman frequently wrote letters to his critics using more colorful language that was less frequent in writing at the time. He filed these away, never to be mailed. His way of letting off steam. It seems that the one to Paul Hume (who had a choral group famous in this area) was made public inadvertently.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/28/arts/paul-hume-85-washington-music-critic.html

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 11, 2017, 12:55:04 PM
Apparently Truman frequently wrote letters to his critics using more colorful language that was less frequent in writing at the time. He filed these away, never to be mailed. His way of letting off steam. It seems that the one to Paul Hume (who had a choral group famous in this area) was made public inadvertently.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/28/arts/paul-hume-85-washington-music-critic.html

So the letter did get out at the time?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on February 11, 2017, 01:26:27 PM
I think so. Roughly about the time that he wrote the review. It blew over pretty quickly, though.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on February 11, 2017, 01:34:59 PM
Good news for Twitler supporters, I guess.

Asylum-seeking Syrian family crosses into Quebec from U.S. in -15C weather
Asylum-seekers crossing through the woods to Quebec surged in recent months, Canada Border Services says

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/asylum-seeking-syrian-family-crosses-into-quebec-from-u-s-in-15c-weather-1.3978598

[...]
Why cross in the woods?

The reason some asylum-seekers will choose to cross in the woods instead of at a formal border crossing goes back to 2004 and the Safe Third Country agreement.

The agreement was designed to limit the number of people claiming refugee status in Canada.

It was created so that refugee status can only be claimed in the first safe country someone arrives in. But it only holds at official border crossings.

People crossing into Canada through open terrain can apply for refugee status here.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 11, 2017, 01:40:42 PM
Good news for Twitler supporters, I guess.

Asylum-seeking Syrian family crosses into Quebec from U.S. in -15C weather
Asylum-seekers crossing through the woods to Quebec surged in recent months, Canada Border Services says

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/asylum-seeking-syrian-family-crosses-into-quebec-from-u-s-in-15c-weather-1.3978598

[...]
Why cross in the woods?

The reason some asylum-seekers will choose to cross in the woods instead of at a formal border crossing goes back to 2004 and the Safe Third Country agreement.

The agreement was designed to limit the number of people claiming refugee status in Canada.

It was created so that refugee status can only be claimed in the first safe country someone arrives in. But it only holds at official border crossings.

People crossing into Canada through open terrain can apply for refugee status here.


that is great!  Go Canada!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 11, 2017, 03:03:48 PM

I'm not sure I understand how the refugees come to the U.S. to be
able to then go to Canada. What are they doing in the limbo stage?
The current vetting process for refugees which I learned about on a
PBS Newshour last August, said the vetting process happens before
any refugees get here. Anyone know?

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/asylum-seeking-syrian-family-crosses-into-quebec-from-u-s-in-15c-weather-1.3978598

The climate in the U.S. has created a sense of insecurity in some people.

Yes, everyone residing here!

Except climate change deniers...  :)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 11, 2017, 05:02:46 PM
Singing icon Pat Boone, 82, blasts Meryl Streep, Hollywood liberals and movie studios that are 'wrecking' US image around the world with anti-Trump rants

    Boone, 82, said an awards show in not the place to 'vent your spleen'

    The respected singer feels Meryl refused to give Trump a 'chance'

    He insisted Hollywood shuts out conservatives and is '99% liberal,' to the detriment of the nation's image around the world


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4215336/Pat-Boone-BLASTS-Meryl-Streep-Hollywood-liberals.html#ixzz4YQNfUZAe
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Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 12, 2017, 10:55:47 AM

Pat Boone is a virulent homophobe who has treated LGBT folks badly his entire life.
I wouldn't be surprised if Dana Carvey used Pat Boone for the basis of his Church Lady character.

What's "wrecking the U.S. image around the world" IS Donald Trump.

Seriously, is Pat Boone defending the morality of Donald Trump?

"Boone cited Trump's Electoral College victory and his voters' conviction that he’s gonna lead us into a more moral and a more economically sound and military strong life."

Sane people have been trying to warn everyone about Trump for months.  Not his politics. Trump himself.  99% plus
of EVERY newspaper in the United States said "DO NOT VOTE FOR HIM."  Many Republicans and former government
officials who served in high positions signed their names to ads and appeared on the news warning everyone not to vote
for this man. His politics, whatever they are, were not the point. The man was on full display for a year and a half (or his
whole life if anyone was paying attention to him) as the disaster he would be if he was elected. The man is a petty and
vindictive businessman with no experience at all in running any kind of government job, the morals that would make
most people cringe around him, except that he labeled himself a Republican so the conservative Christian right like Boone
choose to look at him like a Saint?  That's on you Pat.

And TRUMP is going to lead the U.S. into a more moral country?  Dream on Pat, you effenahole.


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on February 12, 2017, 10:58:53 AM
Their thin veneer of supposed morality and religiosity hardly disguises their lust for power.

The morality is for other people, not the leadership.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 12, 2017, 11:08:36 AM
Dream on Pat, you effenahole.

I will agree with that.  He should stick with the step in bathtub commercials (I want one of those by the way).. 8)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 12, 2017, 11:29:28 AM
Lindsay Lohan Wants Meeting with Trump, Putin to Solve Syrian Refugee Crisis


Have no fear, Lindsay Lohan is here...to solve the Syrian refugee crisis!

Speaking during a Facebook Live interview with the Daily Mail, Lohan said she wanted a sit-down meeting with U.S. President Donald Trump, Russian President Vladimir Putin and other Hollywood celebrities to discuss the Syrian refugee crisis.

"I want to try to get the word out to Donald Trump bring him over there, have him see all the positive things they are doing over there and all America can do to help as well," she said.


http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/02/11/lindsay-lohan-syria-refugees-trump-putin-meeting


 8)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on February 12, 2017, 03:04:12 PM
Love trumps Trump.  :)

Fadwa Alaoui, Canadian turned away at U.S. border, gets visit from Vermont family

[...]
"I guess it felt like someone had treated my neighbour badly," said Andy Solomon. "I imagined poor Youssef waiting for hours while they're interrogating his mom."
[...]


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-fadwa-alaoui-vermont-support-1.3979173
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 12, 2017, 03:35:29 PM
Lindsay Lohan Wants Meeting with Trump, Putin to Solve Syrian Refugee Crisis

Have no fear, Lindsay Lohan is here...to solve the Syrian refugee crisis!

 :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on February 12, 2017, 03:54:27 PM
CONGRATS BBM-4XM, JEFF!!!!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 12, 2017, 05:54:54 PM
CONGRATS BBM-4XM, JEFF!!!!
Good grief!  :o

Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 14, 2017, 01:45:05 PM

In Like Flynn?

No, Flynn Flies Out!

Yay!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 14, 2017, 01:45:33 PM

Happy Valentine's Day all!

http://ultimatebrokebackforum.com/index.php?topic=20158.1530

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on February 14, 2017, 04:00:57 PM
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_1KlIJLLU6A/WCw8OqF2X3I/AAAAAAAAANI/M1OZN_YgJ-EJBpGUcF4_0GLGMsuzDOY_ACEw/s400/Valentine%2BDay%2BGreetings%2Band%2BImages12.jpg)
Everyone!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 14, 2017, 04:22:53 PM
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-_1KlIJLLU6A/WCw8OqF2X3I/AAAAAAAAANI/M1OZN_YgJ-EJBpGUcF4_0GLGMsuzDOY_ACEw/s400/Valentine%2BDay%2BGreetings%2Band%2BImages12.jpg)
Everyone!

And to you, too, Linda.  :)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on February 14, 2017, 04:58:11 PM
Happy V-Day, all o' y'all!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on February 14, 2017, 08:34:08 PM
And to you, too, Linda.  :)

Thanks, Jeff!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 16, 2017, 07:19:02 AM
Well, if The Donald is going to refer to the media as "the fake media," I think it's time I begin referring to him as "the Fake President."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on February 16, 2017, 02:10:51 PM
Totally agree, Jeff. EVERYTHING is everyone else's fault but his.

Bad judgement on his part.
Lack of knowledge of the basics of the American government.
Surrounding himself with idiots, who have no knowledge of the basics of American government.

NONE of this is his fault. It is all the fault of the hateful media.


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 17, 2017, 11:40:00 AM

That press conference he gave yesterday was like watching a
child trying to get out of a playpen. It was disturbing and even
terrifying to think that he is in the position he's in. And if you
look at a transcript of it, it's even more obvious how incoherent
it was.

The last question he took where the Israeli reporter asked a legitimate question
and Trump took it as an accusation and berated him was just unbelievable.

Well, it wasn't unbelievable, that's the problem.  If you read any articles online and
then look at the comments afterwards you actually find so many people supporting
this buffoon. They really are just enjoying the show.  It's like constantly eating junk
food and not realizing, or just not caring, that in the long run you're going to regret it.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 17, 2017, 03:46:13 PM

I'M IN!  FOR THE PRICE OF A STAMP!


This was started by a grass roots RESISTANCE (to Trump) group.  Besides being individually easy to do, it already has historical symbolism,
a hashtag, and no one has to buy a plane ticket or charter a bus for DC .:


THE IDES OF TRUMP: On March 15th, each of us will mail Donald Trump a postcard that publicly expresses our opposition to him. And we, in vast numbers, from all corners of the world, will overwhelm the man with his unpopularity and failure. We will show the media and the politicians what standing with him — and against us — means. And most importantly, we will bury the White House post office in pink slips, all informing Donnie that he’s fired.

Each of us — every protester from every march, each congress calling citizen, volunteer, donor, and petition signer — if each of us writes even a single postcard and we put them all in the mail on the same day, March 15th, well: you do the math.

No alternative fact or Russian translation will explain away our record-breaking, officially-verifiable, warehouse-filling flood of fury. Hank Aaron currently holds the record for fan mail, having received 900,000 pieces in a year. We’re setting a new record: over a million pieces in a day, with not a single nice thing to say.

So sharpen your wit, unsheathe your writing implements, and see if your sincerest ill-wishes can pierce Donald’s famously thin skin.

Prepare for March 15th, 2017, a day hereafter to be known as #TheIdesOfTrump.
Postcards are important here! Regular mail must go through content inspections
that slow them down, whereas postcards don't have such postal obstacles.

Write one postcard. Write a dozen! Take a picture and post it on social media tagged with #TheIdesOfTrump ! Spread the word! Everyone on Earth should let Donnie know how he’s doing. They can’t build a wall high enough to stop the mail.


Then, on March 15th, mail your messages to:

President (for now) Donald J. Trump
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

It might just be enough to make him crack.
If you are out of the country, it will take longer to arrive.
Figure out the timing so it arrives around March 17th!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on February 17, 2017, 04:58:13 PM
And it will help out the USPS, which can really use the revenue.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on February 17, 2017, 08:12:09 PM
I plan on finding some pink postcards to send, to look like a pink slip.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on February 17, 2017, 08:35:29 PM
Great idea!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on February 18, 2017, 09:59:15 AM
I'm in as well and will spread the word on social media.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 18, 2017, 10:39:29 AM
I plan on finding some pink postcards to send, to look like a pink slip.

(http://file2.instiz.net/data/file2/2016/07/01/6/d/c/6dc6abb72661e0e88f1affb5e230c2f9.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: richchan on February 18, 2017, 03:22:32 PM
Bait and Switch

This Short Video from The Other 98% says it all...or, as Mark Shields said on The PBS Newshour last evening, since practically no one is in place to make all this happen, he's pushing buttons that aren't connected to anything!
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(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u316/richchanstev/Bait%20and%20Switch_zpsgbnmdb00.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/user/richchanstev/media/Bait%20and%20Switch_zpsgbnmdb00.jpg.html)

Video Link:

https://www.facebook.com/TheOther98/videos/1704864586191179/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on February 18, 2017, 03:25:55 PM
That's a great way to put it!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: richchan on February 18, 2017, 03:35:32 PM
Home of the Whopper

A great political cartoon!

(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u316/richchanstev/Home%20of%20the%20Whopper-original_zpstne4sbf1.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/user/richchanstev/media/Home%20of%20the%20Whopper-original_zpstne4sbf1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on February 18, 2017, 04:13:31 PM
Swiped for Facebook!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 19, 2017, 01:14:09 PM
Bait and Switch

This Short Video from The Other 98% says it all...or, as Mark Shields said on The PBS Newshour last evening, since practically no one is in place to make all this happen, he's pushing buttons that aren't connected to anything!


I really believe that if Trump supporters watched that video they would call the sources for the info contained in it
fake and not believe it. Their slogan for the last month has been "Give him time" or "Give him a chance." Conservative
media has gotten their supporters to feel aggrieved concerning just about everything over the last few decades...aided
and abetted by conservative politicians who want their votes.

Conservative and Liberal ideas should be like yin and yang, complimentary to each other that ultimately
is beneficial to the whole. We are certainly far away from inhabiting that idea anytime soon.

Charlie Sykes is a conservative radio show host in Wisconsin who recognized his own role in this.
He recently wrote a piece titled:  "Why Nobody Cares the President Is Lying"

Quote
Mr. Trump understands that attacking the media is the reddest of meat for his base, which has been conditioned to reject
reporting from news sites outside of the conservative media ecosystem.


For years, as a conservative radio talk show host, I played a role in that conditioning by hammering the mainstream media for its bias and double standards. But the price turned out to be far higher than I imagined. The cumulative effect of the attacks was to delegitimize those outlets and essentially destroy much of the right’s immunity to false information. We thought we were creating a savvier, more skeptical audience. Instead, we opened the door for President Trump, who found an audience that could be easily misled.

The news media’s spectacular failure to get the election right has made it only easier for many conservatives to ignore anything that happens outside the right’s bubble and for the Trump White House to fabricate facts with little fear of alienating its base.

Unfortunately, that also means that the more the fact-based media tries to debunk the president’s falsehoods, the further it will entrench the battle lines.

Trump's insidious campaign rally yesterday is a testament to this. Trump lies, misleads, glories in the adulation and promises
remedies for his aggrieved followers.  And he tells them who to blame if these promises cannot be delivered.  The media,
Democrats, immigrants...basically everyone else.

It's worth noting the dictionary definition of aggrieved:
feeling resentment at having been unfairly treated.

Never mind if, as Charlie Sykes wrote, these people feel aggrieved because they have "been conditioned
to" for years by right-wing media from Fox News, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Breitbart, ad infinitum.
(Aided and abetted by the Republican politicians who want their votes.) Never mind that the aggrieved
are feeling resentment over things that they were told to feel aggrieved about, regardless if these things
are true or not.  The aggrieved now have a long list of people places and things to resent:  Immigrants,
Democrats, Liberals, job loss, minorities of any stripe, China, biased news media, TPP, NAFTA, progress,
President Obama--ad infinitum. All of these have sub-sets of resentment as well. And the real problems
are ignored or lied about--climate change is a hoax, all voters are suspect, coal jobs are sustainable, Trump
is a danger, Obamacare (AFA) is a diaster, etc.

What happens when people feel aggrieved, whether or not the reasons for feeling that way are valid or not?
The aggrieved want other people to feel their pain. They begin not to care if they destroy things, mentally or
physically. They want to put one over on the powers that be that they feel have wronged them, that they blame
for their pain. It's why rioters often burn down their own neighborhoods. That's where their pain is. Trump is that
kind of vessel. As Michael Moore said, even before the election, these voters want to send the biggest "fuck you"
message to the entire establishment of both parties and they did so in the form of rallying behind the reality star
joke candidate. What do they like most about him? That he lets people have it, calling anyone out who disagrees
with him. You read the comment sections on any articles about Trump and you'll see that his supporters are
enjoying the chaos.  As MiloMorris wrote a few months ago on this thread about the concerns of others regarding
Trump: "We simply don't believe they are true, or they just don't concern us."  Or, "I don't care."

I just watched that Oscar nominated documentary, near 8 hrs. long, O.J.: Made in America.  This aggrieved mentality
was on display in the verdict in this trial.  The difference being that the aggrievement was rooted in a lot of truth, not
the lies and distortions evident in the current situation.

What's going on now is the last line of the article quote about:

"...the more the fact-based media [or anyone] tries to debunk the president’s falsehoods, the further it will entrench the battle lines."
In other words, MM's "We simply don't believe they are true, or they just don't concern us."

Trump's a poison that will affect everyone. How long it's going to affect us
will depend on how long he's in office and/or how long his supporters stick
with him.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 19, 2017, 03:37:55 PM
Aww, I just read that the Fake President is pouting because he can't go out of the White House and spend his evenings at restaurants like he could back home in Trump Tower.

Pity. ...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 19, 2017, 04:41:50 PM
I plan on finding some pink postcards to send, to look like a pink slip.

I love this idea, but I admit I'm clueless. Where does one find pink postcards?  :(
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on February 19, 2017, 06:01:40 PM
I love this idea, but I admit I'm clueless. Where does one find pink postcards?  :(

You can order blank post cards online in any color you want.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on February 19, 2017, 06:38:13 PM

I really believe that if Trump supporters watched that video they would call the sources for the info contained in it
fake and not believe it. Their slogan for the last month has been "Give him time" or "Give him a chance."

I heard one supporter on the National News tonight say, "You guys give Donald Trump a hard time. You dissect what he says. He's not a politician. He doesn't have the perfect thing to say. But we love the fact that he goes straight to us and we can decipher it."  ONE CANNOT REASON WITH THIS TYPE OF ARGUMENT THAT MAKES NO SENSE.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/bc/9c/e3/bc9ce3b3a86000616cbed8fb61a46c77.jpg)

The former Swedish Prime Minister: "Sweden? Terror attack? What has he been smoking? Questions abound."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 20, 2017, 07:11:14 AM
i wish the enemy of the American people would stop taking him seriously and just make fun of him..


Liora Yukla
‏@LiogaYukla

Uncovered: the plans for the terrorist attack in #Sweden last night. RT because the fake news MSM wont report it! #swedenincident
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5BCt1SWYAEt7H9.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 20, 2017, 07:14:46 AM
Duncan Whitehead @DuncanWhitehead
First photo from the #swedenincident - some people may find this image disturbing. Barbaric.
7:23 AM - 19 Feb 2017

(https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video_thumb/C5BdTdZWIAArC9a.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 20, 2017, 07:17:00 AM
Amazin LêThi
‏@amazinlethi

#LastNightInSweden after the #attack there were no more #Swedish #meatballs in the #country. #RIPSwedishMedatballs 😂😂😂 lol

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5B_u56WAAAdWSL.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 20, 2017, 07:22:39 AM
Jeanna Skinner
‏@JeannaLStars

After the terrible events #lastnightinSweden , IKEA have sold out of this:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5BQEKfXAAEj3OZ.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 20, 2017, 07:31:19 AM
Julian Power
‏@JueRobWilPo

Scenes of appalling despair #LastNightInSweden

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5BefX5WEAE4iYH.jpg:large)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 20, 2017, 07:32:33 AM
Jesper Kihlberg @Kihlberg90

#LastNightInSweden someone ordered two kebabs and a hamburger but never picked it up. Horrible scenes.
6:21 AM - 19 Feb 2017 · Landskrona, Sverige
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 20, 2017, 07:34:51 AM
percy dashwood
‏@percydashwood

Meanwhile in Sweden hoards of them are streaming over the border. #lastnightinSweden

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5BtGSSWAAAsy2u.png:large)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on February 20, 2017, 07:46:51 AM
All really good, Nancy! ;D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 20, 2017, 09:39:24 AM
You can order blank post cards online in any color you want.

Thanks, Linda.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 20, 2017, 09:42:06 AM
Julian Power
‏@JueRobWilPo

Scenes of appalling despair #LastNightInSweden

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5BefX5WEAE4iYH.jpg:large)

Ikea is a Swedish plot to undermine the United States. We need to build a wall around Sweden, and get the Swedes to pay for it. ...  ;)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 20, 2017, 12:31:11 PM
All really good, Nancy! ;D

Agree Agree Agree!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 20, 2017, 12:41:53 PM
I heard one supporter on the National News tonight say, "You guys give Donald Trump a hard time. You dissect what he says. He's not a politician. He doesn't have the perfect thing to say. But we love the fact that he goes straight to us and we can decipher it."  ONE CANNOT REASON WITH THIS TYPE OF ARGUMENT THAT MAKES NO SENSE.

The former Swedish Prime Minister: "Sweden? Terror attack? What has he been smoking? Questions abound."

We now live in an idiocracy.

-- idiocracy
a form of government in which a country or territory is run by fools. ... an act or actions that come from ideas or beliefs that are not smart.

May I add, not only run by fools, but freely elected by them.

I keep using this H.L. Mencken quote that RichChan first posted here last November:

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
     --H.L. Mencken

Maybe I'll write that on my postcard!

I'll begin:

Dear DJT:  H.L. Mencken predicted your Presidency several decades ago:




Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 20, 2017, 06:09:08 PM
I don't understand why the Fake President had to fire Flynn. After all, all Flynn did was give the V.P. an alternative fact, didn't he?

 ;)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 21, 2017, 10:07:28 AM
These Republicans didn't like Trump at first. They do now.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/21/politics/donald-trump-republican-support/index.html



An interesting read!  Always curious as to how people think..
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 21, 2017, 10:47:02 AM
^^^^^^

So, what I got out of that article is that if satan ran
as a Republican they would have voted for him.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 21, 2017, 11:09:00 AM
^^^^^^

So, what I got out of that article is that if satan ran
as a Republican they would have voted for him.

He did. And he won. ...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 21, 2017, 11:18:20 AM
...Even as she prayed, Francioli said she knew she ultimately would vote for Trump. Clinton, she said, was "untrustworthy." And as an avowed opponent of abortion rights, flag burning, same-sex marriage and adoptions by same-sex couples, Francioli said she wanted a president who would populate the Supreme Court with conservatives....


I had to laugh at that, I mean if that is the way you feel!   >:D


But all that aside, still doesn't explain his "personality", seems like a lose lose situation to me.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 21, 2017, 12:40:45 PM
...Even as she prayed, Francioli said she knew she ultimately would vote for Trump. Clinton, she said, was "untrustworthy." And as an avowed opponent of abortion rights, flag burning, same-sex marriage and adoptions by same-sex couples, Francioli said she wanted a president who would populate the Supreme Court with conservatives....

I had to laugh at that, I mean if that is the way you feel!   >:D

But all that aside, still doesn't explain his "personality", seems like a lose lose situation to me.

If she considered Hillary Clinton "untrustworthy" yet believed she could trust The Donald, she's living in a Fool's Paradise. Unfortunately, people like her have dragged the rest of us along with them.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 21, 2017, 12:55:10 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/21/politics/donald-trump-republican-support/index.html

These people made me think of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 21, 2017, 02:41:56 PM

One month and one day later:


Last week, Donald Trump and Jeff Sessions took aim at transgender students — and today there are new media reports that this week they are planning to withdraw Obama Administration guidance protecting transgender youth. Last night, reports signaled that the Departments of Justice and Education, led by Trump appointees Jeff Sessions and Betsy DeVos, are preparing to rescind the Obama Administration’s Title IX guidance detailing schools’ obligations for protecting transgender students.

What can you do: take action IMMEDIATELY — send a message to the Trump Administration and take action on behalf of transgender youth across the nation. And please call the Department of Justice — 202-514-2000 — and the Department of Education — 1-800-872-5327 (too free) — today and demand that Betsy DeVos and Jeff Sessions maintain the Obama Administration’s guidance protecting transgender youth.

We cannot stand by as members of our community — especially children — are threatened!

___

Unbelievable...if they do this they are literally putting young people in harm's way.  Why? For what reason?
When I ponder this, there is no reason. They just put through a bill to rescind the SSA regulation preventing
mentally ill people from obtaining guns, because "there is no inherent connection between being mentally ill
and being dangerous.” Trump is expected to sign it.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-set-overturn-guns-mental-health-regulation-557237

Madness.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 21, 2017, 02:58:50 PM
They just put through a bill to rescind the SSA regulation preventing
mentally ill people from obtaining guns, because "there is no inherent connection between being mentally ill
and being dangerous.” Trump is expected to sign it.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-set-overturn-guns-mental-health-regulation-557237

Madness.

Well, Lyle, remember what a mentally ill person with a gun did to Ronald Reagan.

Just sayin'. ...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on February 21, 2017, 03:33:19 PM
And T is all for the mentally ill having the right to purchase firearms, and signed a directive to that effect. How appropriate, perhaps T wanted to buy a gun for himself.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 22, 2017, 07:15:38 AM
Well, Lyle, remember what a mentally ill person with a gun did to Ronald Reagan.

Just sayin'. ...

Of course, if the mentally ill are allowed easy access to guns, I'm afraid another Sandy Hook is far more likely than another "Ronald Reagan."  :(
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 22, 2017, 05:57:31 PM
How come only the Brit media reported this?

Donald Trump is right, there was a recent attack in Sweden by Neo-Nazis on a refugee centre

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/donald-trump-terror-attack-claim-sweden-neo-nazis-refugee-centre-florida-rally-a7588516.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/donald-trump-terror-attack-claim-sweden-neo-nazis-refugee-centre-florida-rally-a7588516.html)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 23, 2017, 01:37:59 AM
^^^^^^

To answer your question...

First, this is what Trump said:

He began talking about having to keep our country safe and migration in Europe and he linked it to terror attacks in Brussels, Nice and Paris - before inexplicably adding Sweden to the list. Mr. Trump told supporters in Melbourne, FL: "We've got to keep our country safe. You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. "Sweden, who would believe this. Sweden. They took in large numbers. They're having problems like they never thought possible. You look at what's happening in Brussels. You look at what's happening all over the world. Take a look at Nice. Take a look at Paris."

The story you linked says:

Three suspected neo-Nazis were arrested in January after a Gothenburg Asylum centre became the target of a homemade bomb attack, leaving one person seriously injured. Security services said all three suspects had previously been members of the Nordic Resistance Movement (NMR), a group that openly promotes racist and anti-Semitic views and has vocally opposed non-white immigration to the country.

Now, to your question.

First, Trump said there was a terrorist attack "last night." This incident happened last January.

Second, Trump's speech was about immigrants and refugees being the cause of terrorist attacks and
other problems and he linked those to Brussels, Paris, Germany, and Nice. Then he threw in Sweden.
(Last night.) But this incident you brought up wasn't an attack performed by any refugees or immigrants.
It was committed by right-wing (Swedish) extremists against refugees. (And not last night.")

So for the headline to say Trump was right means one has to do a lot of convoluting to come up with an
answer one wants to hear.‎

I suppose this incident was dug up because reporters hearing Trump's speech were looking into everything
that happened in Sweden lately and found this item. Your "How come the Brit media only reported this?"
might be because they found it because they were looking for something. But I have to ask you how you think
the incident needed to be reported? The bomb didn't kill anyone. This Swedish group isn't any group that people
in the U.S. know. I wager in Britain, either. And it also depends how people are using the word "terror." I happen
to think Trump is a terrorist.

What is your opinion?

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on February 23, 2017, 02:06:37 AM
^^^^^^

To answer your question...

First, this is what Trump said:

He began talking about having to keep our country safe and migration in Europe and he linked it to terror attacks in Brussels, Nice and Paris - before inexplicably adding Sweden to the list. Mr. Trump told supporters in Melbourne, FL: "We've got to keep our country safe. You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. "Sweden, who would believe this. Sweden. They took in large numbers. They're having problems like they never thought possible. You look at what's happening in Brussels. You look at what's happening all over the world. Take a look at Nice. Take a look at Paris."

The story you linked says:

Three suspected neo-Nazis were arrested in January after a Gothenburg Asylum centre became the target of a homemade bomb attack, leaving one person seriously injured. Security services said all three suspects had previously been members of the Nordic Resistance Movement (NMR), a group that openly promotes racist and anti-Semitic views and has vocally opposed non-white immigration to the country.

Now, to your question.

First, Trump said there was a terrorist attack "last night." This incident happened last January.

Second, Trump's speech was about immigrants and refugees being the cause of terrorist attacks and
other problems and he linked those to Brussels, Paris, Germany, and Nice. Then he threw in Sweden.
(Last night.) But this incident you brought up wasn't an attack performed by any refugees or immigrants.
It was committed by right-wing (Swedish) extremists against refugees. (And not last night.")

So for the headline to say Trump was right means one has to do a lot of convoluting to come up with an
answer one wants to hear.‎

I suppose this incident was dug up because reporters hearing Trump's speech were looking into everything
that happened in Sweden lately and found this item. Your "How come the Brit media only reported this?"
might be because they found it because they were looking for something. But I have to ask you how you think
the incident needed to be reported? The bomb didn't kill anyone. This Swedish group isn't any group that people
in the U.S. know. I wager in Britain, either. And it also depends how people are using the word "terror." I happen
to think Trump is a terrorist.

What is your opinion?



Isn't the point that the report was ironic? That the "terrorists" were not Muslim but neo-nazis?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 23, 2017, 10:22:35 AM

Well, "I" thought so, but I wasn't sure the original commenter did.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 23, 2017, 11:51:43 AM
Looks to me like the headline is ironic, though supporters of the Fake President surely wouldn't take it that way.

But clearly the Fake President, in his typical xenophobic, anti-refugee/anti-immigrant way, was not referring to an attack on refugees by native-born Swedes.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 23, 2017, 12:49:58 PM
These Republicans didn't like Trump at first. They do now.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/21/politics/donald-trump-republican-support/index.html



An interesting read!  Always curious as to how people think..

Yes, and I'm pleasantly shocked at how CNN's Jodi Enda is attempting to appear objective and fair.

T.T.


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 24, 2017, 07:22:00 AM
So, would you consider this speaking out of both sides of your mouth?

On the one hand, Betsy DeVos says that the issue of bathrooms for transgender students "is an issue best solved at the state and local level." Then she proceeds to say, "I have dedicated my career to advocating for and fighting on behalf of students. And as secretary of education, I consider protecting all students, including LGBTQ students, not only a key priority for the department, but for every school in America."

Tell you what. Kids can be pretty mean and nasty, especially to someone who is "different." Has anybody seen anyone address the question of whether or not transgender students can safely use a bathroom that corresponds to their gender identity, or presentation (sorry, I'm unsure what the proper word is here)? It's entirely possible that I just missed this, but has anyone else seen anything about it?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 24, 2017, 10:23:26 AM
On the one hand, Betsy DeVos says that the issue of bathrooms for transgender students "is an issue best solved at the state and local level."


Every time there's an issue that Republicans don't like, they trot out the "it's an issue best solved at the state and local level."

This is what that means to them:  "At least we can have our way in some of the states."   In the "olden days" when most of
the population did not move around or travel within fifty miles of where they were born, this might have been tenable, but people
move and travel all the time now. National policies give uniform value to the individual no matter what state they're in. They still
argue that things like marriage equality, abortion and the like should be within a state's only purview.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 24, 2017, 10:32:55 AM
Well, if The Donald is going to refer to the media as "the fake media," I think it's time I begin referring to him as "the Fake President."


I don't really know much about Donald Trump, but, really, haven't all of America's recent presidents been fakes? I mean, like,
George H.W. Bush - the oil industry's puppet ? Pres. Clinton - the Rhodes-CFR globalist ? the other George Bush -  a Dick Cheney/neo-con product? And Pres. Obama? - oh, dear me.


The flap about "fake news" reminded me of the time that Sec. Hillary Clinton testified to members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that all of the US media news was essentially useless,  America would be better off listening to All Jazeera, b/c it is "real news."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/hillary-clinton-al-jazeera-real-news-13042310

Someone here has a video clip of an angry Chris Matthews during his MSNBC commercial break accidentally caught on open mic asking his producer, When are we going to cut the bullshit and start telling the American people the truth about what's going on in this country?

T.T.



Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 24, 2017, 01:21:13 PM

I don't really know much about Donald Trump.

It might be a good idea to start reading up on him, Friend.

Quote
But, really, haven't all of America's recent presidents been fakes? I mean, like,
George H.W. Bush - the oil industry's puppet ? Pres. Clinton - the Rhodes-CFR globalist ? the other George Bush -  a Dick Cheney/neo-con product? And Pres. Obama? - oh, dear me.

Perhaps we're not using fake in the same sense. It seems to me that the way you are using it could probably be applied to every President back to John Adams. If I remember correctly, of all the Presidents you list, only George W. Bush ("the other George Bush") won the Presidency while losing the popular vote, as did The Donald. And none of them engaged in the constant, repetitive, juvenile name-calling that The Donald has done. George W. Bush was certainly not fond of the press, but as far as I know and remember he never called the media "fake." He didn't insult the press by calling it "failing," as the The Donald has done to The New York Times, and his people did not engage in "alternative facts" or make up terrorist attacks that never happened.

The Donald cannot abide anything he cannot control, or anyone who does not think he's the greatest thing since Jesus Christ. He cannot control The New York Times, the Washington Post, or the BBC, for example, so he has to belittle them as "the fake media," even when their "fake news" contributed to his firing of Flynn (as was reported this evening on BBC America). Same goes with people. If he can't control them, or they won't kiss his ... whatever ..., he has to belittle them.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on February 24, 2017, 05:43:25 PM
Even if I wanted to visit, they probably wouldn't let me across the border. #trumpslump

The Travel Press is Reporting the 'Trump Slump,' a Devastating Drop in Tourism to the United States
Experts across the travel industry are warning that masses of tourists are being scared away from visiting the United States, and the loss of tourism jobs could be devastating.
By Arthur Frommer

http://www.frommers.com/tips/miscellaneous/the-travel-press-is-reporting-the-trump-slump-a-devastating-drop-in-tourism-to-the-united-states
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on February 24, 2017, 07:02:47 PM
Hope he's happy.

Not really.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on February 24, 2017, 07:39:55 PM
Week before last on one of the morning news shows, they were talking about the 17% drop in tourism. That is billions of dollars in tourism lost and thousands of tourism related jobs lost. As of Feb. 8, $185 million in business travel bookings have been lost because of the ban.

He is bankrupting the country and he does not give a shit.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on February 24, 2017, 08:02:08 PM
As long as he personally continues making money, it doesn't make any difference.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on February 24, 2017, 08:13:38 PM
You are absolutely correct, Fritz!! :(
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: brian on February 24, 2017, 08:51:22 PM
Even if I wanted to visit, they probably wouldn't let me across the border. #trumpslump

The Travel Press is Reporting the 'Trump Slump,' a Devastating Drop in Tourism to the United States
Experts across the travel industry are warning that masses of tourists are being scared away from visiting the United States, and the loss of tourism jobs could be devastating.
By Arthur Frommer

http://www.frommers.com/tips/miscellaneous/the-travel-press-is-reporting-the-trump-slump-a-devastating-drop-in-tourism-to-the-united-states

No wonder.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-25/mem-fox-detained-at-los-angeles-airport-by-us-officials/8303366 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-25/mem-fox-detained-at-los-angeles-airport-by-us-officials/8303366)

When I was working as a teacher-librarian, I read some of Mem Fox's books and met her at conferences.
If I had not already paid a sizeable deposit on my Alaska Cruise in June, I would have cancelled my whole trip last November.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 24, 2017, 09:33:25 PM
It might be a good idea to start reading up on him, Friend.
Where to find unbiased political views, these days? It seems that almost every western news outlet  is consistently Trump negative, which imo is a sure sign of a stacked deck, i.e., fake news, which Mrs. Clinton highlighted in her testimony before the Senate FRC.

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Perhaps we're not using fake in the same sense. It seems to me that the way you are using it could probably be applied to every President back to John Adams.
Perhaps you're right. Perhaps you meant, "fake news President", instead?

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only George W. Bush ("the other George Bush") won the Presidency while losing the popular vote
^^^Implying that winning an election via the US electoral college is somehow not valid?

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And none of them engaged in the constant, repetitive, juvenile name-calling that The Donald has done.
You're right, his rhetoric is unique, for sure. And sadly, it's apparently very effective. None of the other bozos he went up against dared to step out of line and go rogue in order to win the Primary.

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George W. Bush was certainly not fond of the press, but as far as I know and remember he never called the media "fake." He didn't insult the press by calling it "failing," as the The Donald has done to The New York Times, and his people did not engage in "alternative facts" .
GW Bush went much further than that, friend. He exploited the media, illegally unleashing white house-produced propaganda videos (VNRs) pro-war fake news to be delivered to TV stations across the US, to put in the faces of Americans..
Bush issued orders to shut down showings of Michael Moore's documentaries in the US, as I recall, even got 'Fahrenheit 9/11'  de-funded, and threatened Disney/Miramar and theater owners across the country with lawsuits if they showed the film.
According to the Secret Service, after a reporter asked W why a callboy named "Jeff Gannon" was allowed access to the White House day and night countless times, and was now posing as a staff reporter in the Press Briefing Room, (Bush reportedly went ballistic, told his secretary, there ought to be limits to freedom of speech, along with a string of nasty things.)
 
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The Donald cannot abide anything he cannot control, or anyone who does not think he's the greatest thing since Jesus Christ. He cannot control The New York Times, the Washington Post, or the BBC, for example, so he has to belittle them as "the fake media," even when their "fake news" contributed to his firing of Flynn (as was reported this evening on BBC America). Same goes with people. If he can't control them, or they won't kiss his ... whatever ..., he has to belittle them.
Maybe so. Who can say for sure what Trump knows or  what really drives him? He's probably a lot more complicated a man than we like to think that he is. Or that we like to think we ourselves are.
I read somewhere that The New York Times and other newspapers have been failing for a while now, shuttering offices and laying off staff.
I do recall that The NY Times got into bed with Bush to promote from his fake "war on terror," the unwarranted invasions of Muslim nations, and yet again to keep stories about his illegal NSA spying on Americans , hidden for over a year. And that's not all.

The BBC often renders fake news, I'm recalling their biggest piece of fakery -- they announced that New York City's  World Trade Centre Building 7 had collapsed into a heap of dust and rubble around 20 minutes before the event occurred.

I still don't understand why that General Flynn guy resigned over a blast of hot air.

T.T.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 25, 2017, 09:32:09 AM
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-25/mem-fox-detained-at-los-angeles-airport-by-us-officials/8303366 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-25/mem-fox-detained-at-los-angeles-airport-by-us-officials/8303366)
When I was working as a teacher-librarian, I read some of Mem Fox's books and met her at conferences.
If I had not already paid a sizeable deposit on my Alaska Cruise in June, I would have cancelled my whole trip last November.
I absolutely love Mem's children's books!  :-*
I didn't understand why she was detained by U.S. authorities, especially considering that she'd been there 116 times before?

But I am confused, why on earth would you have canceled your trip to Alaska?? <scratching head>

Even if I wanted to visit, they probably wouldn't let me across the border.

And oilgun, where do you hail from & why would you not be allowed to enter the United States?? Are you on a no-fly list?  Are you from one of the seven Muslim countries?



T.T.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 25, 2017, 09:45:36 AM

But I am confused, why on earth would have canceled your trip to Alaska?? <scratching head>

T.T.

Deny oneself to punish Trump?  Just speculating...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 25, 2017, 10:08:00 AM
Wow  ???  I wouldn't waste even a minute's sleep over a politician.

T.T.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on February 25, 2017, 10:17:52 AM
Quite a number of politicians thrive and are completely dependent upon this type of apathy.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 25, 2017, 10:27:28 AM
Where to find unbiased political views, these days? It seems that almost every western news outlet is consistently Trump negative, which imo is a sure sign of a stacked deck, i.e., fake news.

Looks like Trump and the right-wing news media has gotten you to believe
the press is dealing in fake news. Let's stop this "fake" news meme.

You have bought into an idea that for every thing good or bad that comes across the news there has to be a corresponding
bad to go with the good or good to go with the bad.

That's not how it works. If you can't objectively see what kind of man DJT is, then I don't know what to tell you.
Democrats and Republicans alike have been writing about this man running for President for over a year. They have
all been warning about what a DJT presidency would be like. Public officials from every persuasion have been sending
up warning signals during the election for months. The hundreds of newspaper and magazine endorsements almost
unanimously said DO NOT VOTE FOR THIS MAN. Even the Republican/Conservative leaning newspapers who hadn't
EVER endorsed anyone but a Republican.

After years of belittling President Obama believing he was not born in this country before announcing his candidacy,
that was the first red flag he sent up that immediately disqualified him from office. And each and every day after that
he's sent up red flags.  I guess you saw all these red flags and assumed it was a parade or something.

Then after all this, what you get out of this negative reaction is that "the deck is stacked against him" meaning that
you don't think any of it is warranted? 

^^^Implying that winning an election via the US electoral college is somehow not valid?

You saying that is a dismissive tactic to lessen the other persons point. Jeff was not implying it wasn't valid,
nor has anyone else, but Trump himself has gone on and on implying it wasn't valid, even though he won.
He blames 3-5 million illegal voters for the reason he did not receive more of the National vote than HRC did.
He now blames thousands of Massachusetts citizens going to New Hampshire by the bus loads to vote there
for the reason he lost the state and why Kelly Ayotte lost the Senate seat. The fact he won the election does
not imply he has a mandate from a majority of the people, though he is acting like it.  And before the election
itself he stated if he did not win it it was rigged. So give me a break.

Bush issued orders to shut down showings of Michael Moore's documentaries in the US, as I recall, even got 'Fahrenheit 9/11'  de-funded, and threatened Disney/Miramar and theater owners across the country with lawsuits if they showed the film.

Now that is fake news.

Who can say for sure what Trump knows or what really drives him? He's probably a lot more complicated
a man than we like to think that he is. Or that we like to think we ourselves are.

Wow, yes, that's what I look for in a President when I decide who to vote for: "Someone I can't say for sure what
they know."  Do you really think he's that complicated or is it a way to support him, believing there must be more
than meets the eye. (Hint: There isn't.)

But what drives him? All you need to know about Trump is who he himself says was the most influential person in
his life: Roy Cohn.

I go back to the beginning of his Presidential bid.  On the day he announced I knew he was a birther and had been
for years. So, do I want someone with a delusional attitude like that, willing to dwell on it for years and never let it
go, periodically insisting they had breaking news about it and it would blow the lid off the issue. Talk about fake. The
answer to any sane person should have been NO WAY. He's disqualified to be President. Not to mention the daily
grind he slung at the people every day after that. But, what was said in an article I posted from last summer and
mentioned again after the election. Trump's candidacy is a joke and always was a joke. If you supported him you
were IN on the joke. (And I use "you" here in the collective sense.) You enjoyed the joke. You liked the show. You
could put one over on everyone you think you didn't like or was wronging you in some fashion. (As Michael Moore
said, "They could collectively send the biggest f--- you to the establishment by voting for the joke.) Then you elected
the joke. And now we have a joke President.

I read somewhere...

A very Trumpian phrase.  "I read somewhere..."  "Oh, people are saying..."  "I heard..."
"Many people say that..." "I only know what I read on the internet..."  "I alone can fix it..."

The BBC often renders fake news, I'm recalling their biggest piece of fakery -- they announced that New York City's  World Trade Centre Building 7 had collapsed into a heap of dust and rubble around 20 minutes before the event occurred.

It seems to me that anyone knows that while horrendous events are happening that information
delivered while they are happening often turns out to be incorrect later on or has been exaggerated.
Anytime a situation occurs with a nuclear power plant, like Fukishima, any government always says
"The reactor is fine. There isn't anything to worry about. You are safe."  Then the news media reports
it. Don't ever believe the reporting on these things...while it is occurring.

What you have done is to go back and find something reported that wasn't true at the time and then
seem to believe there was some nefariousness behind it.  Then anything said afterwards as to why that
occurred you don't believe and just think they are denying what you feel.  In any case, on that subject
try this explanation out for size:

Controversy and Conspiracies III
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2008/07/controversy_conspiracies_iii.html

I still don't understand why that General Flynn guy resigned over a blast of hot air.

Really?  You think it's all just hot air?

Sorry T.T., I do not suffer Trump supporters gladly.  And it's not because of anything to do with ANY
"policies" or anything political.  It's HIM.  He's a boorish rich (so he claims) entitled lout who is only
interested in himself, doesn't know anything about running a Government, is wronged by anyone
who speaks negatively about him and will pursue it ad infinitum (Rosie O'Donnell did a two minute
diss on him on The View over ten years ago and he still won't let it go) refuses to acknowledge any
negative Russian attribute, but rails against our close allies and I could continue, but I'm through for
the moment.



With all of that, I am ashamed and appalled that a man like this was chosen to represent the country I love.
And every day the shame gets worse.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 25, 2017, 10:29:28 AM
A lawyer says the son of legendary boxer Muhammad Ali was detained by immigration officials at a Florida airport.


Chris Mancini tells the Courier-Journal in Louisville, Kentucky that 44-year-old Muhammad Ali Jr. and his mother Khalilah Camacho-Ali, the second wife of Muhammad Ali, arrived at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport on Feb. 7 after returning from Jamaica.

Mancini says officials questioned Ali Jr. for nearly two hours, repeatedly asking him, “Where did you get your name from?” and “Are you Muslim?”


Mancini says officials continued questioning Ali Jr. after acknowledging that he was Muslim. Ali Jr. was born in Philadelphia and holds a U.S. passport.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials say they “cannot discuss individual travellers; however, all international travellers arriving in the U.S. are subject to CBP inspection.”

 >:D


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/boxing-legend-muhammad-alis-son-detained-at-florida-airport-asked-are-you-muslim/article34137579/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 25, 2017, 10:31:46 AM

As for travel to the U.S. -- I'm sure other countries televise Trump's speeches, or parts of them,
like his campaign rally  ::)  in Florida last weekend.  Why would they want to come here. According
to Trump, every city reeks of American carnage and is filthy, dangerous, desolate and ravaged. Who'd
want to visit that?

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on February 25, 2017, 01:32:26 PM

And oilgun, where do you hail from & why would you not be allowed to enter the United States?? Are you on a no-fly list?  Are you from one of the seven Muslim countries?



T.T.

I'm in Canada. They ask people for their phone password, which i would have changed to "fuckyou" prior to the trip, and one look at my facebook page would make it clear that I don't think much of President Bannon and co. Apparently, that's enough to be denied entry in the US. Of course, I am white, so I might just slip in. In any event I've decided to boycott the US until things change.

And btw, any news outlet that isn't Trump negative is by default fake news because there is nothing positive to report about this administration.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 25, 2017, 03:18:50 PM
I'm in Canada. They ask people for their phone password, which i would have changed to "*******" prior to the trip, and one look at my facebook page would make it clear that I don't think much of President Bannon and co. Apparently, that's enough to be denied entry in the US. Of course, I am white, so I might just slip in.
Oh, you really had me GOING until I read that! 
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

T.T.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 25, 2017, 03:28:26 PM
A lawyer says the son of legendary boxer Muhammad Ali was detained by immigration officials at a Florida airport.

Mancini says officials questioned Ali Jr. for nearly two hours, repeatedly asking him, “Where did you get your name from?” and “Are you Muslim?”
Mancini says officials continued questioning Ali Jr. after acknowledging that he was Muslim. Ali Jr. was born in Philadelphia and holds a U.S. passport.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/boxing-legend-muhammad-alis-son-detained-at-florida-airport-asked-are-you-muslim/article34137579/
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Wow, two hours! Those officials must have a really high threshold of boredom. Or maybe they are being paid by the hour?


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 25, 2017, 03:56:02 PM
Quite a number of politicians thrive and are completely dependent upon this type of apathy.

I voted, sorry fritzkep, but that's the limit of my duty.
Call it apathy if you want but I personally will not be staying up nights to worry about the Billionaire President.

T.T.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 25, 2017, 04:33:43 PM
Where to find unbiased political views, these days? It seems that almost every western news outlet  is consistently Trump negative, which imo is a sure sign of a stacked deck, i.e., fake news, which Mrs. Clinton highlighted in her testimony before the Senate FRC.

No. A point of view--even if it's biased--is not fake news. Fake news is exclaiming over terror attacks in Sweden and in the U.S. state of Kentucky that never happened. Fake news is lying.

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Perhaps you're right. Perhaps you meant, "fake news President", instead?

No, I do not. I mean exactly what I said. As far as I'm concerned, he is a Fake President. He is a loud-mouthed, self-centered, self-absorbed bully with no credibility at all and is a disgrace to the office he occupies.

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^^^Implying that winning an election via the US electoral college is somehow not valid?

I never said that, either. (Thanks, Lyle.)

Quote
You're right, his rhetoric is unique, for sure. And sadly, it's apparently very effective. None of the other bozos he went up against dared to step out of line and go rogue in order to win the Primary.
GW Bush went much further than that, friend. He exploited the media, illegally unleashing white house-produced propaganda videos (VNRs) pro-war fake news to be delivered to TV stations across the US, to put in the faces of Americans..
Bush issued orders to shut down showings of Michael Moore's documentaries in the US, as I recall, even got 'Fahrenheit 9/11'  de-funded, and threatened Disney/Miramar and theater owners across the country with lawsuits if they showed the film.
According to the Secret Service, after a reporter asked W why a callboy named "Jeff Gannon" was allowed access to the White House day and night countless times, and was now posing as a staff reporter in the Press Briefing Room, (Bush reportedly went ballistic, told his secretary, there ought to be limits to freedom of speech, along with a string of nasty things.)
 Maybe so. Who can say for sure what Trump knows or  what really drives him? He's probably a lot more complicated a man than we like to think that he is. Or that we like to think we ourselves are.
I read somewhere that The New York Times and other newspapers have been failing for a while now, shuttering offices and laying off staff.
I do recall that The NY Times got into bed with Bush to promote from his fake "war on terror," the unwarranted invasions of Muslim nations, and yet again to keep stories about his illegal NSA spying on Americans , hidden for over a year. And that's not all.

Hmm. For someone who claimed not to know much about The Donald, you seem to know a lot about George W. Bush and Hillary Clinton. Just sayin'.

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The BBC often renders fake news, I'm recalling their biggest piece of fakery -- they announced that New York City's  World Trade Centre Building 7 had collapsed into a heap of dust and rubble around 20 minutes before the event occurred.

Since you spell "Center" as "Centre" in the British way, that suggests that you are not a citizen or resident of the U.S. Where were you and how old were you on Sept. 11, 2001? There was a lot of confusion that morning as all news organizations grappled to cover and to understand what was happening that morning. A mistake in buildings is not "fake news." For fake news I again refer you to the nonexistent terror attacks in Sweden and Kentucky,

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I still don't understand why that General Flynn guy resigned over a blast of hot air.

T.T.

And lying to the Vice President is "a blast of hot air" how?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 25, 2017, 04:39:11 PM
Deny oneself to punish Trump?  Just speculating...

How about, Decline to spend tourist dollars in the U.S. because of that person occupying the Oval Office?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 25, 2017, 05:22:46 PM
Gay Men at CPAC: "We Want Inclusion from Within"
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vg_xk5sUyw4/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=196&h=110&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=XYKAQDdHeLub7VeQmS8YU5QAnmU)www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg_xk5sUyw4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg_xk5sUyw4)

 Gay conservatives?


T.T.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 25, 2017, 05:36:10 PM
A mistake in buildings is not "fake news."
Jeff,

Mistake? WTC1 and WTC-2 were destroyed in the morning, whilst Building 7 went down in the afternoon.  I thought everyone knew that.

(http://www.sott.net/image/s7/151158/full/wtc7_bbc.jpg)


The BBC America reporter in NY was standing with her back toward Building 7, whilst she was reporting the building as having collapsed. It didn't go down until 23 minutes later.


T.T.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 25, 2017, 05:48:55 PM
  Fake news is exclaiming over terror attacks in Sweden and in the U.S. state of Kentucky that never happened. Fake news is lying.

I always try to avoid being prejudicial, as there's always at least two sides to any story, if one cares to look. So I read the transcript - President Trump was "exclaiming" about the rise in immigrant crime in Sweden, including two incidents  that occurred the night before, rather than a specific terror attack in Sweden, as a knee-jerk former official had publicly promulgated.


Anyway, I'd love to stay and chat with you some more, but gotta go -- tonight is our USCD Mardi Gras Party Night in the Gaslamp Quarter, San Diego! :)


T.T.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on February 25, 2017, 06:32:37 PM
Oh, you really had me GOING until I read that! 
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

T.T.

Wow, you find it funny that the US border control is using racial profiling?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on February 25, 2017, 06:38:07 PM
Gay Men at CPAC: "We Want Inclusion from Within"
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vg_xk5sUyw4/hqdefault.jpg?custom=true&w=196&h=110&stc=true&jpg444=true&jpgq=90&sp=68&sigh=XYKAQDdHeLub7VeQmS8YU5QAnmU)www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg_xk5sUyw4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg_xk5sUyw4)

 Gay conservatives?


T.T.

Yes, even gay people can be stupid. How is that a surprise?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 26, 2017, 08:29:45 AM
President Donald Trump has announced that he will not attend this year's White House Correspondents' Dinner, a move that comes amid increasingly hostile relations between the media and the White House.
"I will not be attending the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner this year. Please wish everyone well and have a great evening!" Trump tweeted on Saturday.


The black-tie dinner, which raises money for journalism scholarships, takes place every spring and is usually attended by the president, journalists, celebrities and Washington insiders. The last president to miss the dinner was Ronald Reagan, who sat out because he was he recovering from an assassination attempt in 1981, although he still delivered remarks by phone...



http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/25/politics/trump-declines-to-attend-white-house-correspondents-dinner/index.html
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on February 26, 2017, 09:53:49 AM
That'll show the correspondents.

Of course, if Baldwin took his place....

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 26, 2017, 10:34:05 AM
Yes, even gay people can be stupid...

Sorry, oilgun, but in my own experience I've found gay people to rarely be anything approaching ''stupid.''


T.T.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 26, 2017, 10:40:03 AM
Would censorship of immigant crime stories be considered "fake news"?

WIKILEAKS RELEASE EXPOSING SWEDEN FOR CENSORING STORIES ABOUT MIGRANT CRIME

Quote
Swedish media admits to censoring stories about migrant crime for the last five years 
Journalists in Swedish media are told not to report on the violent crime escalating due to the increase of migrants.

A journalist who has worked on several major editorial says that in all workplaces has been a pronounced or unspoken policy not to promote SD (Swedish conservative party) and xenophobia. And especially remember the 'honor murder' of Pela Atroshi: “We did not write a line about it.”
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 26, 2017, 10:50:43 AM
I always try to avoid being prejudicial, as there's always at least two sides to any story, if one cares to look. So I read the transcript - President Trump was "exclaiming" about the rise in immigrant crime in Sweden, including two incidents  that occurred the night before, rather than a specific terror attack in Sweden, as a knee-jerk former official had publicly promulgated.

^^^
FAKE POST.

You did NOT read the transcript and if you did you made up or read something to explain what he said. It sounds like you read one of Trump's apologists telling us what he meant.

He began talking about having to keep our country safe and migration in Europe and he linked it to terror attacks in Brussels, Nice and Paris - before inexplicably adding Sweden to the list. Mr. Trump told supporters in Melbourne, FL:

"We've got to keep our country safe. You look at what's happening in Germany, you look at what's happening last night in Sweden. "Sweden, who would believe this. Sweden. They took in large numbers. They're having problems like they never thought possible. You look at what's happening in Brussels. You look at what's happening all over the world. Take a look at Nice. Take a look at Paris."

That's exactly all he said mentioning Sweden. No mention of rising immigrant crime in Sweden.
No statement of specific Swedish attack the night before.

The fact that this President needs interpreters all the time is not a good thing. The fact he says
things that can be interpreted in several ways means he's either doing it to precisely manipulate
the situations so that he can be accused of being wrong and then say, "You are, this is what I
meant," or he is stupid. I'll wager any amount of money on the latter.

Full transcript of Trump's remarks that night: HERE (http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/national/read-full-transcript-trump-rally-speech-florida/DeDCpoNEKLQmWcIKndWB0M/).
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 26, 2017, 10:52:02 AM
Would censorship of immigant crime stories be considered "fake news"?

You really don't get it, do you?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 26, 2017, 10:53:38 AM
Sorry, oilgun, but in my own experience I've found gay people to rarely be anything approaching ''stupid.''


T.T.

So you judge all groups of people based on "your own experience."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 26, 2017, 11:02:38 AM
Jeff,

Mistake? WTC1 and WTC-2 were destroyed in the morning, whilst Building 7 went down in the afternoon.  I thought everyone knew that.

(http://www.sott.net/image/s7/151158/full/wtc7_bbc.jpg)


The BBC America reporter in NY was standing with her back toward Building 7, whilst she was reporting the building as having collapsed. It didn't go down until 23 minutes later.
T.T.


In a post of mine you ignored, I guess: there is an answer to your continued promulgation of this
conspiracy theory, if you had taken the time to read it, since you seem so interested on proving a point. But I guess the answer is just fake news and you want to ignore for your own purposes.

I could quote it here, but I'm not going to help you out.

If you want you're going to have to click the link, read the article and respond to it.

Controversy and Conspiracies III
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2008/07/controversy_conspiracies_iii.html
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 26, 2017, 11:09:31 AM
President Donald Trump has announced that he will not attend this year's White House Correspondents' Dinner, a move that comes amid increasingly hostile relations between the media and the White House.
"I will not be attending the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner this year. Please wish everyone well and have a great evening!" Trump tweeted on Saturday.

Just a few days ago I told a friend of mine that it would not at al surprise me if Trump did not
attend this. Face it, he has no sense of humor, least of all about himself. The PBS program THE
CHOICE, profiling the two candidates America had to choose from for the Presidency last election, started off with clips of Trump from the WHCA Dinner where Trump was roasted a bit as all are,
and he was sitting there seething. He cannot laugh at himself. I don't trust people without a sense
of humor, at least a modicum of it. Trump/Pence are the two sourest people in politics. Even Ted
Cruz manages humor.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 26, 2017, 11:15:20 AM
I like Fritz's idea - let Alec Baldwin stand in for dt.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 26, 2017, 11:17:17 AM
So you judge all groups of people based on "your own experience."

I found that an odd statement as well…it’s hard to find any segment or genre of the population that doesn’t share the same overall/general societal makeup of society at large: intelligent and not so, introverted, extroverted, happy/depressed... 

It may be because of age – Tina mentioned being at UCSD…if she is college age, lack of experience could cause a statement such as “no stupid gays”…

Although if i remember correctly, I'm pretty sure I knew everything when I was 22   :D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 26, 2017, 11:17:50 AM
I always try to avoid being prejudicial, as there's always at least two sides to any story, if one cares to look.

I happened to hear this comment on a news story about someone accused of
arson, later proven not to be the case: "Remember, there's two sides to every
story, and then there's the security cam footage."

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 26, 2017, 11:20:38 AM
I like Fritz's idea - let Alec Baldwin stand in for dt.

The fact is, now Trump is going to use this event as a showcase to his supporters
at how mean the press is to him. Because, as I said, he sees no humor in anything.
Least of a all himself. Trump's world is devoid of all that.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 26, 2017, 11:22:32 AM
i stand by my professional analysis that he is a 16 y/o girl...he's a  mean girl.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on February 26, 2017, 12:28:01 PM
i stand by my professional analysis that he is a 16 y/o girl...he's a  mean girl.

I agree, Nancy. But a 16 yo old girl would have a better hair piece! :P
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 26, 2017, 12:44:59 PM
Jeff,

Mistake? WTC1 and WTC-2 were destroyed in the morning, whilst Building 7 went down in the afternoon.  I thought everyone knew that.

(http://www.sott.net/image/s7/151158/full/wtc7_bbc.jpg)


The BBC America reporter in NY was standing with her back toward Building 7, whilst she was reporting the building as having collapsed. It didn't go down until 23 minutes later.


T.T.

That still doesn't make it "fake news."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 26, 2017, 12:46:08 PM
#cnnleaks -- Heads up:

James O'Keefe Set To Release "Hundreds of Hours" Of CNN Newsroom Footage "Wikileaks Style"

James O'Keefe, the weasaly young man who impersonated a 'pimp' and got ACORN shut down, is releasing what he is calling the" CNN Newsroom Leaks."[/i]
The videos will be posted on line for people to peruse.


https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=james+o%27keefe+cnn (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=james+o%27keefe+cnn)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 26, 2017, 12:46:31 PM
Sorry, oilgun, but in my own experience I've found gay people to rarely be anything approaching ''stupid.''


T.T.

Sheesh, you don't know too many gay people, do you?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 26, 2017, 12:48:00 PM
I agree, Nancy. But a 16 yo old girl would have a better hair piece! :P

LOL!  :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 26, 2017, 12:50:17 PM
Although if i remember correctly, I'm pretty sure I knew everything when I was 22   :D

I think we all did!  :D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 26, 2017, 01:04:21 PM
President Donald Trump has announced that he will not attend this year's White House Correspondents' Dinner, a move that comes amid increasingly hostile relations between the media and the White House.
"I will not be attending the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner this year. Please wish everyone well and have a great evening!" Trump tweeted on Saturday.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/25/politics/trump-declines-to-attend-white-house-correspondents-dinner/index.html
I personally feel that the President should attend out of simple respect for the non-fake segment of the media.
He gave a hilarious speech at the Alfred E. Smith Charity Dinner with Cardinal Dolan, last October.
Wonder if the Secret Service advised Pres. Trump not to attend the dinner, for his own safety.(?) i.e., the fake press people seem to be getting desperate to maintain traction on Trump-ice.

According to CNN (and 1 grain of salt):
Quote
Several news organizations had already withdrawn from the April 29 event in protest of Trump's treatment of the media. Vanity Fair and Bloomberg, which usually co-host an exclusive, star-studded after-party, have canceled that gala, while The New Yorker similarly canceled its pre-party April 28.

If this report is true (questionable) maybe this will finally spell the end of the Dinner, pity, because it was always such great fun, esp. under Bush and Obama.

T.T.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 26, 2017, 01:12:50 PM

Wonder if the Secret Service advised Pres. Trump not to attend the dinner, for his own safety.(?) i.e., the fake press people seem to be getting desperate to maintain traction on Trump-ice.


you think CNN, WSJ & the NYT attendees are going to show up w/AKs??
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 26, 2017, 01:14:14 PM
I agree, Nancy. But a 16 yo old girl would have a better hair piece! :P

Oh yeah...no self-respecting mean girl would go out of the house looking like that   :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 26, 2017, 01:23:26 PM
you think CNN, WSJ & the NYT attendees are going to show up w/AKs??
IDK, but they do seem to have a lot of friends in low places.  ;)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 26, 2017, 01:35:38 PM
yeah, not like breitbart...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 26, 2017, 01:42:32 PM
Is anyone (besides me) watching the Markets? - My IRA account grew by over 5% in the months since President Trump was elected.


The Dow, S&P, and Nasdaq have set record highs in the months after Trump’s election. On Thursday, the Dow has its tenth consecutive record closing in a row, at 20,810.


I know that smart investors generally get a little nervous when the DOW moves into "record-breaking territory" since a pullback usually occurs as the 1%-ers begin taking their profits off the table.

https://www.google.com/search?q=market+gains+since+trump+percent&oq=market+gains+since+trump+percent (https://www.google.com/search?q=market+gains+since+trump+percent&oq=market+gains+since+trump+percent)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: TinyTina on February 26, 2017, 01:51:56 PM

 (Thanks, Lyle.)

Sorry, Jeff,
My browser is coded to squelch specified posters. (CS Dept. implemented Dave Cullen's idea as an SMF macro.)


T.T.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 26, 2017, 02:51:50 PM
I keep coming back to what Howard Stern said:


“He loves the press, he lives for it,” Howard Stern, a frequent Trump interviewer and friend, said this month. “He wants to be liked, he wants to be loved.” Being president, Stern added, is not “going to be a healthy experience.”


The rest of us aside, I don''t think this "Presidency" is going to be good for Trump!




Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 27, 2017, 08:51:32 AM
Sorry, Jeff,
My browser is coded to squelch specified posters. (CS Dept. implemented Dave Cullen's idea as an SMF macro.)
T.T.

Well that explains why she keeps repeating false statements and conspiracy theories.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 27, 2017, 09:41:45 AM
Well that explains why she keeps repeating false statements and conspiracy theories.

Do you think she would pay any mind to your debunking anyway?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: richchan on February 27, 2017, 02:01:20 PM
The War Between the President and the Press

All of this sturm und drang about "fake news" and the honesty of the press or The Donald and his minions was (I think, thoughtfully) addressed in this essay by George Friedman under this title.

Excerpts:

"A war has broken out between the president and the press. A better way to put it is that an ongoing war has escalated to new heights. President Donald Trump has declared the press the enemy of the people. The press is declaring Trump a threat to all American liberties and a vile monster. I use the term press rather than media, incidentally, because that is the language of the Constitution and in some ways this is a constitutional battle...

"Rage between a president and the press is not new. The rights of the press were built into the Constitution. The founders gave them these rights along with an obligation – to hold government officials accountable for their actions. Not trusting government, the founders commissioned a nongovernmental entity to turn challenging the state into a business. The press’ job was to monitor the state. Since this was a republic in which ordinary citizens were supposed to control the state, the role of the press was to be the guardian of the republic...

"... The president needs the press to attack him to maintain his political center. The press needs the president to attack it to convince its politically skewed readership that it is defending their interests. The president’s attacks solidify the press’ customer base...

"Therefore, attacking the press in order to hold Trump’s base together is good politics. In this strategy, Trump is aided by the press’ daily and unremitting attacks on him. When you look up articles about Trump in The New York Times and The Washington Post, they appear as an unending barrage of attacks, some reasonable and some preposterous. But they all serve Trump’s interests...

"...The press does this because they see Trump as a threat to the republic and because it is good business. The readers, listeners and viewers of the prestige press tend to be a minority of the market. Many draw news from other sources seen by the prestige press as beneath them. The press must hold on to readership, because if that readership falls even moderately, news organizations’ ability to stay in business would be in doubt..."

Rest of essay:

http://info.geopoliticalfutures.com/reality-check-the-war-between-the-president-and-the-press
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 27, 2017, 02:25:24 PM
Some interesting commentary, but I personally disagree with this statement:

"The press needs the president to attack it to convince its politically skewed readership that it is defending their interests."

I personally don't need the President to attack the mainstream press to be convinced that the press is defending my interests, but then I'm an old guy who grew up believing in the integrity of the mainstream press--and I'm also a once-upon-a-time reporter, too.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 28, 2017, 07:02:49 AM
George W. Bush Breaks His Silence on the Direction of the Country Under President Trump: ‘I Don’t Like the Racism and Name-Calling’


..Bush called the political climate in Trump’s Washington “pretty ugly” (“I’m not going back nowhere!” he added for emphasis), but said he isn’t feeling anxious about the direction of the country. “Not really. I’m optimistic about where we’ll end up. … We’ve been through these periods before and we’ve always had a way to come out of it. I’m more optimistic than some.”..



http://people.com/politics/george-w-bush-on-trump-presidency/?xid=socialflow_facebook_peoplemag


When did G.W. become the voice of reason!  ;D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 28, 2017, 07:27:29 AM
When did G.W. become the voice of reason!  ;D

Seriously! I thought the same thing--yesterday?--when I heard part of Matt Lauer's interview with him. I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

I got the impression he's not happy with The Donald but didn't want to come right out about it.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 28, 2017, 08:31:40 AM
Seriously! I thought the same thing--yesterday?--when I heard part of Matt Lauer's interview with him. I couldn't believe what I was hearing.

I got the impression he's not happy with The Donald but didn't want to come right out about it.

He seems "likeable" all of a sudden!  :laugh:    And no past Presidents don't generally speak out against current Presidents and understandably so.


Did you see these pics?   They are cracking me up for some reason?



http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/28/kellyanne-conway-couch-feet-knees-oval-office/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 28, 2017, 09:13:06 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/28/kellyanne-conway-couch-feet-knees-oval-office/

Oh, good God.

Next she'll be taking her "critters" down to the "Cee-ment Pond."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 28, 2017, 09:23:58 AM
Oh, good God.

Next she'll be taking her "critters" down to the "Cee-ment Pond."

I like my feet up on the couch - have em both up right now - but generally don't do it in the Oval Office!  :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 28, 2017, 09:34:10 AM
I like my feet up on the couch - have em both up right now - but generally don't do it in the Oval Office!  :laugh:

Her boss probably likes to see her knees. ...  >:(
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 28, 2017, 02:47:53 PM
Decision, decisions. Do I want to watch the Fake President's address to Congress tonight, or not?

OK, I don't want to, but should I?

 :(
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on February 28, 2017, 04:14:24 PM
Don't like looking at him nor the sound of his voice, the speech will be duly summarized in the news tomorrow morning.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 28, 2017, 04:38:25 PM
Did you see these pics?   They are cracking me up for some reason?

http://www.tmz.com/2017/02/28/kellyanne-conway-couch-feet-knees-oval-office/

Tell you what, until I heard it and saw it on local 6 p.m. news, I didn't realize she was doing this in front of visitors to the Oval Office who represented historically Black colleges. The photo on the news "pulled back" so you could see the office was full of visitors.

This shows an astonishing lack of both professionalism and just plain good manners.

I'd call her South Jersey trailer trash, but I don't want to insult South Jersey trailer trash.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 28, 2017, 04:40:00 PM
And it gets worse, she had her shoes on!!    :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 28, 2017, 04:47:18 PM
this is a big who cares...there are  more important, not to mention frightening, things they're doing in the oval office...

Unprofessional?  no, and who cares...
(https://consequenceofsound.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/bill-and-obama.jpg?quality=80&w=807)

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130903184136-tsr-moos-obama-foot-on-presidential-desk-00021116-horizontal-gallery.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on February 28, 2017, 04:50:46 PM
I got the impression he's not happy with The Donald but didn't want to come right out about it.

It's my understanding that the Bush family is not pleased with Donald blocking Jeb's turn in the WH.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 28, 2017, 04:51:38 PM
yes, you would think the trashing he gave Jeb wouldn't soon be forgotten.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 28, 2017, 04:55:27 PM
Tell you what, until I heard it and saw it on local 6 p.m. news, I didn't realize she was doing this in front of visitors to the Oval Office who represented historically Black colleges. The photo on the news "pulled back" so you could see the office was full of visitors.

This shows an astonishing lack of both professionalism and just plain good manners.


I'd call her South Jersey trailer trash, but I don't want to insult South Jersey trailer trash.


Exactly, there was an important audience, not the time or the place...



As for the Bush's they didn't vote for Hillary or Trump!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 28, 2017, 05:21:35 PM
Anybody read about the meeting?  Read what the guests were really upset about...enough with the feet on the couch already...

Among those invited to attend were Walter Kimbrough, president of Dillard University in New Orleans. He described the meeting in a post on Medium on Monday afternoon. He’d been anticipating being able to give remarks focused on the need to support the Pell grant program, a vital support system for his students. But, as he noted, he and other anticipated speakers saw the amount of time they were allotted to speak at the “listening session” decreased significantly.

“I’m still processing that entire experience” of being in the Oval Office, he wrote. “But needless to say that threw the day off and there was very little listening to HBCU presidents today — we were only given about 2 minutes each, and that was cut to one minute, so only about 7 of maybe 15 or so speakers were given an opportunity today.”

Meaning that, of that group in that photo at the top of the page, at the White House for a listening session, the total amount of time they spent talking was under 10 minutes. No wonder the secretary of education seems to be unclear on the genesis of the HBCU system.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/02/28/the-conway-picture-is-only-a-small-error-in-trumps-swing-and-a-miss-black-college-event/?utm_term=.66cf14b02dc5 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/02/28/the-conway-picture-is-only-a-small-error-in-trumps-swing-and-a-miss-black-college-event/?utm_term=.66cf14b02dc5)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on February 28, 2017, 05:37:12 PM
..enough with the feet on the couch already...



I am not even close to being done.  I think it is one of the most bizzare pics I have ever seen..

(http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2017_09/1917016/170228-kellyanne-couch-oval-office-803a_9cca82c78b5d543e0bd37fb225036c9a.nbcnews-fp-1200-800.jpg)


I may go photo caption it! 
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on February 28, 2017, 05:43:29 PM
Trump's first speech to Congress: A guide

Every member of Congress is invited to attend the speech, and most bring a guest. This year, several Democrats, including Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), and Reps. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), Jared Polis (D-Colo.) and Mark Pocan (D-Wisc.) will bring undocumented immigrants who are living in the United States under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program -- which allows people who were brought to the United States as children to remain in the country. Democrats are also bringing Muslim community leaders, a physician from Flint, Michigan, and the mother of a Pulse shooting victim. Tom Perez, the new chair of the Democratic National Committee, will attend the speech as the guest of Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) -- his recently defeated rival.

Elizabeth Snyder, the wife of a slain St. Louis County police officer, will be the guest of Reps. Rodney Davis (R-Ill.) and Ann Wagner (R-Mo.), while Montana’s state Attorney General Tim Fox will accompany Sen. Steve Daines (R-Mont.)

Who are President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump’s guests?

The White House has announced six guests who will sit with the first lady during President Trump’s first address to a joint Congress. They include Megan Crowley — a college sophomore who is the daughter of a health care entrepreneur, Jessica Davis and Susan Oliver — widows of California police officers killed by an undocumented immigrant in 2015, Denisha Merriweather — a woman who was the first in her family to graduate from high school and college, late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia’s widow Maureen McCarthy Scalia, and Jamiel Shaw Sr. — a father whose son was shot by an undocumented immigrant in 2008.

Traditionally, the president and the first lady guests’ are personifications of policy initiatives that that administration wants to focus on from the president’s speech.

Are the Democrats planning on boycotting or protesting Trump’s speech?

Many House Democrats boycotted President Trump’s inauguration, but don’t expect to see too many empty seats this time around. Instead, Democrats are using his speech as a platform to needle the president over his controversial policy choices. Democrats are bringing DACA recipients and immigrants from countries that were included in Donald Trump’s travel ban on seven majority-Muslim countries. Rep. Nydia Velázquez (D-N.Y.) invited an Iraqi interpreter who worked with the U.S. military and was detained due to the travel ban. Many Democrats on the Energy and Commerce Committee are bringing Americans who would be negatively affected by the repeal of Obamacare, while Rep. Mike Thompson (D-Calif.) and a couple of his colleagues are bringing guests that are law enforcement officials and first responders to highlight gun control.

But Democrats won’t exactly be happy to see President Trump, either. They usually clamored for a coveted center aisle seat so they can jockey for the opportunity to shake hands with Trump’s predecessor, former President Barack Obama. This go around, they’re less enthusiastic about shaking hands with the commander-in-chief.


http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trumps-first-speech-to-congress-235478 (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/trumps-first-speech-to-congress-235478)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 28, 2017, 09:02:06 PM
And it gets worse, she had her shoes on!!    :laugh:

That's as bad as Britney Spears walking barefoot into a gas station restroom!  :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on March 01, 2017, 08:52:01 AM
That's as bad as Britney Spears walking barefoot into a gas station restroom!  :laugh:

Ewwww  :laugh:



 (CNN)  Shortly after President Donald Trump addressed a Joint Session of Congress for the first time since taking the oath of office, CNN's Van Jones called one particularly moving moment from the speech the real estate mogul's most presidential to date.


Less than an hour after Trump honored the widow of a slain NAVY Seal, the Democratic commentator suggested that the commander in chief had officially begun to look the part.

    "He became President of the United States in that moment, period" @VanJones68 on @POTUS honoring Navy Seal widow https://t.co/uZtnj0OLgs
    — Anderson Cooper 360° (@AC360) March 1, 2017

"He became President of the United States in that moment, period," said Jones, after the evening's most emotional point was replayed by CNN's Anderson Cooper.

"That was one of the most extraordinary moments you have ever seen in American politics," Jones added. . .



http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/01/politics/van-jones-trump-congress-speech-became-the-president-in-that-moment-cnntv/index.html
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on March 01, 2017, 02:03:54 PM
And he stretched out the applause for the grieving widow, in order to set a record. Very presidential.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on March 01, 2017, 02:47:30 PM
And he stretched out the applause for the grieving widow, in order to set a record. Very presidential.

Did he stretch it out... to set a record... or did it just set a record?


Speaking of which:


Dow soars 300 points, closes above 21,000 for the first time!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on March 01, 2017, 03:11:42 PM
He said during the applause that he wanted to set a record.

He worships ratings, and it appeared that the speech did not get the audience that Obama got for his first speech.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on March 01, 2017, 03:46:02 PM
He said during the applause that he wanted to set a record.


I didn't see that Fritz, this is the only thing I could see:


“Ryan is looking down right now, you know that, and he’s very happy, because I think he just broke a record.” He was referring, presumably, to the length of the applause.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on March 01, 2017, 03:50:19 PM
Well, it sounded like his voice. Just listened to it today on the radio.

Hope the widow appreciated it.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on March 01, 2017, 04:05:57 PM


Hope the widow appreciated it.


Near the end of his 60-minute speech, Trump recounted the counterterrorism raid — his first as president — and recognized Carryn Owens, whose eyes were filling with tears. He said of her late husband, “Ryan’s legacy is etched into eternity,” as she looked to the heavens. The crowd of lawmakers, administration officials and military leaders stood to applaud her for two full minutes.

“I’ve been in this town 25 years, probably watched ‘State of the Unions’ for 30,” Spicer said. “I’ve never seen a sustained applause like that.”




I am sure as a soldiers wife she did, you want to believe someone (especially your country) cares about your sacrifice.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on March 01, 2017, 05:21:33 PM
couldn't be worse than dt.


Oprah for president?

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump's 2016 victory may have been Oprah Winfrey's aha moment, as the talk show icon is now signaling she may be open to a presidential bid.

Asked whether she may be able to break the glass ceiling to be elected president, Winfrey smiled.
"I actually never thought that that was — I never considered the conversation even a possibility. I just thought, oh, oh," she said in a conversation with billionaire David Rubenstein on Bloomberg's "The David Rubenstein Show: Peer-to-Peer Conversations."

She later added, "No, that won't be happening, but I mean, I did used to think, well gee, you had to know so much more than I thought you had to know."

The show taped December 12, according to spokeswoman Rachel Nagler, but it was released Wednesday morning.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/01/politics/oprah-presidential-run/ (http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/01/politics/oprah-presidential-run/)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on March 01, 2017, 06:40:48 PM
^^^I had to leave the room to throw up more than once listening to that orange POS
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on March 01, 2017, 07:46:36 PM
Thanks for sharing...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 02, 2017, 07:19:38 AM
So, did I hear this correctly this morning? At his confirmation hearing, Sessions lied about speaking to the Russian ambassador before the election?

And these people called Hillary a liar?!?!?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on March 02, 2017, 01:55:23 PM
Republicans are judged differently from Democrats, especially by other Republicans.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on March 04, 2017, 03:11:04 PM
    Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 4, 2017


He's twitting again!  :o


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on March 05, 2017, 10:52:47 AM
Trump should know OBAMA NEVER LEFT THE WHITE HOUSE! He's in the closet! HE HAS SCISSORS!

— Stephen King (@stephenking) March 4, 2017


 :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Marge_Innavera on March 05, 2017, 08:57:49 PM
The War Between the President and the Press

All of this sturm und drang about "fake news" and the honesty of the press or The Donald and his minions was (I think, thoughtfully) addressed in this essay by George Friedman under this title.



They deserve each other.

I suggest a duel.  With assault rifles.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on March 06, 2017, 06:34:18 PM
Serious question.

Does the President of USA.....always have to be filmed when he is signing a new
contract/law/order ?? I don't remember Obama or Clinton or others having the cameras on them each time they put their signature on a piece of paper.
Is Mr.Trump just trying to show that he can write ?!?!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on March 06, 2017, 06:38:20 PM
It's not a necessary step, and there are several controversial actions which he was not recorded signing, such as the actions against transgender people.

Presumably it's all for increased adulation.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on March 06, 2017, 06:45:41 PM
                                                 ^^^
Thanks Fritz. I just couldn't understand WHY he kept on being filmed signing
stuff !!!!!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 07, 2017, 07:12:20 AM
So here we have it. Muslims in the U.S. are being shot--and in least one instance that I've heard of, killed--and their blood is on the hands of the Fake President.

And Jewish cemeteries are being vandalized and Jewish cultural centers receiving bomb threats.

And this all stems from the xenophobic, fear-mongering campaign that the Fake President ran.

How long until we have another Dylann Roof?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on March 07, 2017, 09:40:40 AM
Anderson Cooper Is So Tired of Trump He Has 'Muted the President on Twitter'


http://toofab.com/2017/03/07/anderson-cooper-is-so-tired-of-trump-he-has-muted-the-president-on-twitter-video/


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: brian on March 07, 2017, 11:03:54 AM
I really feel sorry for you all. Every Monday I take some elderly people fora walk (shuffle with sticks  ;D)
Then we go for coffee. A few weeks ago one elderly lady asked how such a horrible man could have been elected as president and after some discussion one man said "Now we have something to talk about beside the weather"  :laugh:

Then yesterday my much more active group were hiking in forests down to the south and as we looked at the view over all the trees someone said the forest company was owned by the US Superannuation Board and we laughed for one lady who comes from the USA and has some US Super although she has lived and worked here for many years and asked if she was checking out her assets. Someone said "Watch it or Trump will take all the trees back to America."
We never joked about Obama. As far as I know almost everyone admired him very much.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on March 07, 2017, 11:07:06 AM
CNN should go a few steps further.  Cover the president, but then move the fuck on.  They spend 24 hour news cycles analyzing and reanalyzing, speculating, looking for answers that have no answers.

there are other things going on the world.  N Korea will soon have a missile capable of reaching the US, or at least (or most, depending on how you look at it), capable of interfering with our power grid.

Last week almost 150 died of starvation in Somalia due to the drought there.

Hundreds of immigrants are leaving the US for Canada.

They are playing directly into his hands.  He says he hates the media, but he is addicted to it.  If he didn't see his face and hear his name 24 hours a day, he might stop posting those ridiculous posts.  (To say that a 70 y/o man tweets just sounds ridiculous.)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 07, 2017, 12:09:10 PM
^^^

You mentioned CNN's "History of Comedy" series. Last night I saw the episode called "F***ing Funny" which was
about pushing the boundaries of what's acceptable. There were many clips of comedians and of commenters talking
about various acts from comedians etc.

One segment was about when the outrageous humor gets into the realm of controversial and Andrew Dice Clay's
comedy got into that realm. No Trump comparison's were made in this program, but when Dice was performing all
I could think of was "Trump" rallies.  I've always been saying that Trump's rally audiences were there because they
liked the joke, the outrageousness, it's why they said they didn't take the things he said seriously, if they even cared
at all. I don't have a transcript to verify this comment, but it stuck in my head; Bobcat Goldthwait had this astute
observation:

"To be outrageous and 'bad boy' and breakin' the rules is extremely lucrative.

It is also extremely pandering.

There's a lot of comedy that's done under the guise of 'being the edge' which it isn't  --  because it's actually connecting with the basest audience."


That's Trump. That's why the media covers it. It's controversial, it's getting ratings.
People that like Trump like the show. People that do not can't stop watching because
the anti-Trump position has also become a show.

And it is very true that if it were all to stop he would be like Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction.
"I will not be ignored, Dan."

I have referred a number of times to the "joke that gets out of handf" article I read last year
in June:

Trumpy McTrumpface: A Joke That's Now No Laughing Matter
Thomas Pace, Patrick T. Reardon / Chicago Tribune
May 24, 2016

http://my.chicagotribune.com/section-2/article/p2p-87326

That link doesn't work now, but if someone wanted to read it, I posted it in my
post on page 355 of the previous "News" thread, which cannot be linked now.


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on March 07, 2017, 02:41:28 PM
Here you go Lyle and anyone who is interested.


I keep thinking of this article I read last May:
(The link is not working any more and I can't find the article; I'm posting it.)

Trumpy McTrumpface: A Joke That's Now No Laughing Matter
Thomas Pace, Patrick T. Reardon / Chicago Tribune
May 24, 2016

http://my.chicagotribune.com/section-2/article/p2p-87326

You've probably heard about how, in the United Kingdom, a joke got out of hand.

The very prim and proper British Natural Environment Research Council came up with a stunt to get people interested in science, asking them to suggest names for a $288 million state-of-the-art polar research vessel and then to vote on those names.

It worked, and people started talking about names. BBC radio personality James Hand quipped that the vessel should be called Boaty McBoatface. Cue the laugh track.

Except that the joke caught on, and the name was the top vote-getter.

That's the way it is with jokes. Sometimes, they get out of hand.

Like now, here, in the United States. You've heard the one, I'm sure, about the reality television star who becomes the Republican candidate for president of the United States?

And they say conservatives don't have a sense of humor.

When Trumpy McTrumpface first suggested himself as a presidential nominee, the joke was obvious. In his inaugural campaign speech, McTrumpface made a number of comments that would automatically disqualify any serious presidential candidate.

He has since made this his core strategy — spouting racist comments and xenophobic statements, making fun of one reporter's disability, suggesting that another was menstruating, lying to suit his whim, bragging about his "hand" size, talking of solving the national debt by "printing more money." Name-calling, bullying, hatemongering.

So how is it that Trumpy McTrumpface can get away with such egregious, embarrassing behavior?

Because his candidacy is a joke.

Get it?

And the more egregious and embarrassing Trumpy's behavior is, the funnier it is to his supporters, and the more entertaining it is for them, and the more those supporters feel like they're playing the greatest practical joke in history on the rest of the nation.

This means that it doesn't hurt McTrumpface to continuously demonstrate to the public that he is far better suited to engage in a Twitter war with Rosie O'Donnell than he is, say, to negotiate the delicate matters of Middle East policy or to address the complex issue of income inequality or live with the nuclear launch codes at his fingertips. It actually helps him. Isn't that hilarious?

McTrumpface's tax plan was dismissed by William G. Gale of the Brookings Institution as "pie-in-the-sky nonsense."

Hysterical!

The Indianapolis Star's editorial board warned in March that a McTrumpface presidency would be "a danger to the United States and to the world."

You should see the look on your face!

Precious.

Back in the UK, that research council thought better of its stunt and decided that the joke had gone too far. It determined that, no, the new ship won't be called Boaty McBoatface. Instead, it will bear the name of iconic English naturalist Sir David Attenborough.

Boaty McBoatface won the vote. But it was still a joke.

Here in the U.S., it's the same with McTrumpface.

Yes, according to the current polls, it's possible for Trumpy McTrumpface to win the election for the very serious office of president of the United States of America.

But even if he does win, he'll still be a joke.

And the joke will be on us.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on March 08, 2017, 10:26:25 AM
Justin Trudeau marks International Women's Day with $650M for reproductive rights

Canada to champion sexual and reproductive health and rights around the world



http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-women-reproductive-rights-1.4014841



HAPPY INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY!



Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 08, 2017, 11:33:53 AM
HAPPY INTERNATIONAL WOMEN'S DAY!

Women BBM fans rock! It just wouldn't be the same without you all!  :-*
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on March 08, 2017, 12:12:28 PM
Women BBM fans rock! It just wouldn't be the same without you all!  :-*

Thank you Jeff, you are the best!   :-*   Too many men just don't give a care about woman and or their rights, too many women hating on women come to think of it.


Did I mention our PM rocks?


 8)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 08, 2017, 12:42:14 PM
Thank you Jeff, you are the best!   :-*   Too many men just don't give a care about woman and or their rights, too many women hating on women come to think of it.

Did I mention our PM rocks?

 8)

Aw, you're welcome. I seem to have heard that about Justin Trudeau somewhere.  :D  Plus I recently saw a pic of him with his shirt hanging all the way open. ...  ::)

Have I mentioned that I'm shallow?  :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on March 08, 2017, 01:59:06 PM
Happy Women's Day, y'all!

And Trudeau has a most pleasant posterior with glamorous gluteals.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on March 08, 2017, 02:02:15 PM
Thanks, lovely BBM men :-*.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on March 08, 2017, 02:02:58 PM
And yes, Trudeau is very pleasing altogether!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on March 08, 2017, 02:22:59 PM
Happy Women's Day, y'all!

And Trudeau has a most pleasant posterior with glamorous gluteals.


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-F-i5Viyk8ZI/UXGUYJ8NkjI/AAAAAAAABXM/axgczrtP0EY/s1600/Justin+Trudeau+with+flag.jpg)


Thanks Fritz!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 08, 2017, 04:47:42 PM
And Trudeau has a most pleasant posterior with glamorous gluteals.

Hmm. Never seen him "going away."  :(
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on March 08, 2017, 07:04:16 PM
Women BBM fans rock! It just wouldn't be the same without you all!  :-*

Thanks, Jeff and Fritz!!! It means a lot!!! ♥ ♥ ♥
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on March 08, 2017, 07:12:18 PM
Hmm. Never seen him "going away."  :(

I've seen a couple of rear shots of him, nicely formed indeed.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on March 08, 2017, 07:32:40 PM
Hmm. Never seen him "going away."  :(

This is from Twitter, Jeff

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f211/killersmom/C5WSiahWIAA7ixP_zps33ebodin.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/killersmom/media/C5WSiahWIAA7ixP_zps33ebodin.jpg.html)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on March 08, 2017, 07:46:05 PM
Exactly!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on March 08, 2017, 07:50:54 PM
I figured this was a good one, Fritz!! ;D ;)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 08, 2017, 08:06:10 PM
He planks too!


(https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2838129.1459352482!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 09, 2017, 07:27:58 AM
This is from Twitter, Jeff

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f211/killersmom/C5WSiahWIAA7ixP_zps33ebodin.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/killersmom/media/C5WSiahWIAA7ixP_zps33ebodin.jpg.html)

Thanks. I'll have to remember to try to check that at home this evening. Any kind of "sharing" site is blocked here at work for security reasons.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 09, 2017, 07:29:33 AM
He planks too!


(https://www.ctvnews.ca/polopoly_fs/1.2838129.1459352482!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_620/image.jpg)

Another reason to immigrate. ...  :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on March 09, 2017, 10:09:32 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/01/fb/eb/01fbebc32bcd2620629dbc0791589205.jpg)



Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 09, 2017, 06:02:32 PM
This is from Twitter, Jeff

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f211/killersmom/C5WSiahWIAA7ixP_zps33ebodin.jpg) (http://s48.photobucket.com/user/killersmom/media/C5WSiahWIAA7ixP_zps33ebodin.jpg.html)

Very nice. :)

I'm glad for my Canadian friends, and I'm perfectly happy with Brian Sims, the hottie Representative for my district in the state legislature.

I ran into him on my way home from the gym this evening. He was sitting on a stoop--dark hair styled almost like an old-fashioned crew cut, nicely trimmed beard, staring intently at his phone.  ::)  I recognized him at once, and I gave him a cheery, "Hi. Brian!" In turn, he flashed me a brilliant smile and a friendly wave.  :)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on March 09, 2017, 06:17:38 PM
Oh yeah, Brian Sims is gorgeous!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on March 09, 2017, 07:45:16 PM
I googled Brian Sims. Yep, he wins.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 09, 2017, 09:04:29 PM
Oh yeah, Brian Sims is gorgeous!

I googled Brian Sims. Yep, he wins.

Aside from the fact that he's so hot, it's really quite interesting--certainly a new experience for me--to have my district representative to the state legislature actually living in my neighborhood, where at any time I might run into him on the street, as I did this evening.

One Saturday night last year I was drinking in my usual watering hole with a friend who is committeeman here in the city. Brian was sitting at the bar, and I went up to him and introduced my committeeman friend. I ended up sitting between the two of them while they talked politics. While I tried to avoid it, I do seem to recall that I bumped knees with Brian a couple of times. ...  ::)

Meanwhile, I need to remember to look for more pictures of Mr. Trudeau. ...  ::)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on March 11, 2017, 06:44:12 AM
the little one rolling in - hilarious!

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/mar/10/south-korea-expert-interrupted-baby-toddler-live-tv-viral (https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/mar/10/south-korea-expert-interrupted-baby-toddler-live-tv-viral)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on March 11, 2017, 02:20:05 PM
I loved the little one rolling in on the walker and then Mom dragging everyone out. :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 11, 2017, 03:59:16 PM
ROTFLMAO!  THe first one just strutted right up, like she belonged there, and I lost it.  and then the second one came rolling in.....omg!  I don't know how he kept from laughing!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on March 13, 2017, 05:38:16 PM
SNL...

Introducing Complicit, a new fragrance for Ivanka Trump (Scarlett Johansson).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7o4oMKbStE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7o4oMKbStE)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on March 13, 2017, 07:10:30 PM
WOW! That was good!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 13, 2017, 08:28:11 PM
lmao!  That was great!   Reminds me of the time they spoofed the "Obsession" ads with their version, "Compulsion".
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 14, 2017, 10:00:31 AM

I'm mailing my postcards today!

I'M IN!  FOR THE PRICE OF A STAMP!


This was started by a grass roots RESISTANCE (to Trump) group.  Besides being individually easy to do, it already has historical symbolism,
a hashtag, and no one has to buy a plane ticket or charter a bus for DC .:


THE IDES OF TRUMP: On March 15th, each of us will mail Donald Trump a postcard that publicly expresses our opposition to him. And we, in vast numbers, from all corners of the world, will overwhelm the man with his unpopularity and failure. We will show the media and the politicians what standing with him — and against us — means. And most importantly, we will bury the White House post office in pink slips, all informing Donnie that he’s fired.

Each of us — every protester from every march, each congress calling citizen, volunteer, donor, and petition signer — if each of us writes even a single postcard and we put them all in the mail on the same day, March 15th, well: you do the math.

No alternative fact or Russian translation will explain away our record-breaking, officially-verifiable, warehouse-filling flood of fury. Hank Aaron currently holds the record for fan mail, having received 900,000 pieces in a year. We’re setting a new record: over a million pieces in a day, with not a single nice thing to say.

So sharpen your wit, unsheathe your writing implements, and see if your sincerest ill-wishes can pierce Donald’s famously thin skin.

Prepare for March 15th, 2017, a day hereafter to be known as #TheIdesOfTrump.
Postcards are important here! Regular mail must go through content inspections
that slow them down, whereas postcards don't have such postal obstacles.

Write one postcard. Write a dozen! Take a picture and post it on social media tagged with #TheIdesOfTrump ! Spread the word! Everyone on Earth should let Donnie know how he’s doing. They can’t build a wall high enough to stop the mail.


Then, on March 15th, mail your messages to:

President (for now) Donald J. Trump
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500

It might just be enough to make him crack.
If you are out of the country, it will take longer to arrive.
Figure out the timing so it arrives around March 17th!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on March 14, 2017, 05:25:25 PM
I sent mine yesterday.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 15, 2017, 09:43:23 AM

Thumbs up!  ;)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on March 16, 2017, 08:42:35 PM
I like this because I can't stand her..

Stephen Pulls A 'Rachel Maddow'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_rTWxJepO8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_rTWxJepO8)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on March 16, 2017, 09:05:55 PM
And this guy...you can just tell dt is building him up so he'll attack the media in his "press conference"...should be another good SNL this week...

White House press secretary Sean Spicer gave a lengthy and exhaustive defense of President Donald Trump's wiretapping claims against then-President Obama to reporters today, even though leaders of the House and Senate Intelligence committees said they have seen no evidence to support the claims.

Spicer accused reporters of continuing "to perpetuate a false narrative" by not covering statements that could seem favorable to Trump and argued that the statements by the House and Senate Intelligence committees were not based on any investigative work.

Senate Intelligence Committee finds 'no indications' of wiretapping, wider surveillance at Trump Tower
"They're not findings. There's a statement out today they have not begun this," Spicer told ABC News at today's White House press briefing. "Two days ago the Department of Justice asked for an additional week. The statement clearly says at this time that they don't believe that."

At one point he began reading news articles from the lectern in the Brady Press Room. He quoted The New York Times, Fox News personality Sean Hannity, a former New Jersey superior court judge and Fox News commentator Andrew Napolitano, who suggested that Obama used a British intelligence agency to spy on Trump. That claim, like all of Trump's allegations about being under surveillance, are unsubstantiated.

A spokesperson for GCHQ, the British intelligence agency that Napolitano referred to, denied the report.

“Recent allegations made by media commentator Judge Andrew Napolitano about GCHQ being asked to conduct 'wire tapping' against the then president elect are nonsense," the spokesperson said in a press release. "They are utterly ridiculous and should be ignored.”

Spicer also asserted that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes still stands in the administration's corner, despite his statement yesterday contradicting the president's wiretapping claim.

"I don't believe just in the last week of time, the people we've talked to — I don't think there was an actual tap of Trump Tower," Nunes said.

During the press conference, Spicer reiterated that Trump's use of the term "wiretapping" was all-encompassing.

"I think the president has been very clear when he talked about this ... he meant surveillance," Spicer said, referring to an interview Trump with Fox News' Tucker Carlson that aired Wednesday evening.

In that interview, Trump said he didn't necessarily mean "wiretapping."

"When I say 'wiretapping,' those words were in quotes. That really covers, because wiretapping is pretty old-fashioned stuff, but that really covers surveillance and many other things," he said.

Two of Trump's four March 4 tweets related to wiretapping include the term in quotes.


ABC News' Mike Trew contributed to this report.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 17, 2017, 09:36:57 AM
I like this because I can't stand her..

Is it just a personal thing? I really like Rachel Maddow. She's been reporting on all the Russian connections with Trump and his appointees and making the connections and asking the questions no one else is positing about that.

Oh, I just remembered...so you like Peter Thiel but not Rachel Maddow?  :o

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 17, 2017, 12:48:43 PM

I was looking at some photos of postcards that were sent to Trump and this one made me laugh.
It said:

"I am watching you." And was signed: "The Microwave."


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 17, 2017, 12:53:15 PM

Trump had another of his ridiculous campaign rallies this week.

Trump voter James Walker, 31, from Nashville, attended outside the event and said:

"This is the first step: showing up and being honest."

(https://i.redd.it/6oezy09merly.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on March 17, 2017, 06:46:59 PM
Is it just a personal thing? I really like Rachel Maddow. She's been reporting on all the Russian connections with Trump and his appointees and making the connections and asking the questions no one else is positing about that.

Oh, I just remembered...so you like Peter Thiel but not Rachel Maddow?  :o

Had to google Peter Thiel...don't know anything about him or his politics but I do like Paypal.

I just don't care for her on-air personality - hope that's ok w/you.  I saw a story/interview about her and she seems like a very nice person.  I follow dt's nonsense on CNN not MSNBC - hope that's ok w/you.  Actually, now that I think about it, I also can't stand Mika on morning Joe...or Joe for that matter, what a pompous, self-important know-it-all he is, always interrupting his guests (kinda like every other cable news show)...or Lawrence O'Donnell and hate Brian I forget his last name, the liar guy...it's only my opinion, Lyle, stop trying to  :o me.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 18, 2017, 09:46:31 AM
^^^

I wrote Peter Thiel, but I had meant Milo Yiannopoulos.  Oops.


it's only my opinion


I often like to know the thoughts that form an opinion.



Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on March 18, 2017, 05:59:15 PM
Happy to oblige...let me know if you'd like additional info. 

Re: Milo.  I was yanking your chain on him...mostly.  But he's dead now, so you can rest easy.

And no matter how many lefties i say i don't like...I didn't vote for dt......don't forget that.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on March 18, 2017, 07:42:54 PM
Rock 'n' roll legend Chuck Berry dies


Chuck Berry, rock 'n' roll's founding guitar hero and storyteller who defined the music's joy and rebellion in such classics as "Johnny B. Goode," ''Sweet Little Sixteen" and "Roll Over Beethoven," died Saturday at his home in an unincorporated area west of St. Louis. He was 90.

http://www.wtae.com/article/rock-n-roll-legend-chuck-berry-dies/9152098 (http://www.wtae.com/article/rock-n-roll-legend-chuck-berry-dies/9152098)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on March 19, 2017, 09:25:35 AM
I finally started hearing the talking heads making comments about something I've been thinking for a while since dt took office, but with a slight difference. 

The NYT CNN contributor put forth this question: how can the American people and countries around the world trust Trump when (not if) something terrible happens?  Can he stand in front of a TV camera and make statements about N Korea or Russia and be believable?

My question is: will he know what to do?  Of course not.  Will he take to twitter and make ridiculous statements that have to do with his popularity, how Obama caused the current problem, how it's everyone's fault but his, when "fault" will have nothing to do with it.

I used to hate to hear Obama come out time after time and recite the same rehearsed speeches about gun violence after the atrocities of Newtown and Aurora CO and Orlando.  But now I long for the level-headedness (word?) compassion and understanding of BO.  More and more, I fear for our future.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 19, 2017, 08:43:48 PM
I wrote Peter Thiel, but I had meant Milo Yiannopoulos.  Oops.

Maybe someone should introduce those two. They're both gay, and their politics are quite similar, aren't they?  ::)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 20, 2017, 10:21:06 AM
POSTCARDS to the White House...

(http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/2000_1000/58c82e911d000037037ce5f0.jpeg)

The goal of the White House postcard campaign was at least a million postcards sent.
Organizer Zack Kushner believes it was met, but he says, "We likely might never know
because the White House would have to give a count on the number of postcards the
president receives." Would they? Don’t hold your breath. “But we have some hope,”
Kushner said, “that a friendly intern or someone in the postal system might snap a
photograph and get it online.”
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 20, 2017, 11:50:59 AM
POSTCARDS to the White House...

(http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/2000_1000/58c82e911d000037037ce5f0.jpeg)

The goal of the White House postcard campaign was at least a million postcards sent.
Organizer Zack Kushner believes it was met, but he says, "We likely might never know
because the White House would have to give a count on the number of postcards the
president receives." Would they? Don’t hold your breath. “But we have some hope,”
Kushner said, “that a friendly intern or someone in the postal system might snap a
photograph and get it online.”

I don't suppose he's any relation, is he?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on March 20, 2017, 12:16:36 PM
Tim Allen Says Hollywood Is Like ‘1930s Germany’ for Conservative Actors


http://people.com/politics/tim-allen-hollywood-1930s-germany-conservative-actors/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 21, 2017, 09:39:37 AM
^^^

Conservatives always like to play the victim, even in Hollywood.  "Poor us."

Well, if Hollywood (and the country) is like Nazi Germany in the 1930's we only have
you, Tim Allen, for one, who elected our Hitlerian leader.

From a piece I've quoted before:

"But what I think is a more dire truth to the Hitler-Trump comparison is how he could actually come to power. When Hitler was elected it was not the case that an entire country yelled “Sieg Heil” with fanfares and right arms in the air. Instead, a lot of sane, reasonable and non-fanatic people thought “he cannot be taken seriously,” or “he will never win,” or “he is crazy but he does have a point,” or “maybe he will at least bring a change,” to, ultimately, “let’s give him a try, he can’t make matters worse anyhow.” The rest is history.‎ My fear is that a lot of Americans think the same way about Trump, underestimating the danger he poses and the actual shot at the presidency he has."

Wealthy...privileged people...like you Tim Allen, put up with a lot of things the average person will not,
because they have money. Money allows you the freedom to make a mistake; try something new because
you can afford the consequences. If you didn't have the sense or decency to know what you were electing,
that's on you.

I'm sorry, but there is and never will be an excuse good enough to have voted for Donald Trump to be President.
He was a liar before he became President (birtherism, Central Park Five) and he hasn't budged an inch. People of
all persuasions warned against it for over a year. It's not about politics with Trump. It's about human decency.
The more Tim Allen wants to make it about politics and/or policy the more he'll become irrelevant.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 21, 2017, 09:46:25 AM
The more Tim Allen wants to make it about politics and/or policy the more he'll become irrelevant.

For me personally, he's always been irrelevant. Never watched him on TV.

But I agree with you, Lyle.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 21, 2017, 03:47:02 PM

This is a new drug I was thinking about asking my doctor to give
me a prescription for. And several refills.

What do you guys think about it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXUlhT3-r0c&sns=em
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on March 21, 2017, 04:45:53 PM
Great!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on March 22, 2017, 12:59:11 PM
More horror. Thoughts are with the families of those killed and injured.
Will it never end ?

 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/22/man-shot-police-outside-parliament-officer-reportedly-shoots/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 22, 2017, 01:24:02 PM
More horror. Thoughts are with the families of those killed and injured.
Will it never end ?

 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/22/man-shot-police-outside-parliament-officer-reportedly-shoots/

Terrible. Just terrible.  :(
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on March 22, 2017, 06:40:30 PM
More horror. Thoughts are with the families of those killed and injured.
Will it never end ?

 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/22/man-shot-police-outside-parliament-officer-reportedly-shoots/

A horrific event happens so of course Trump Jr reacts in the worst way possible:

Donald Trump Jr. Criticizes London Mayor After Deadly Attack

(...)
“You have to be kidding me?!” Mr. Trump said Wednesday afternoon on Twitter, as details of the episode — which left at least five dead and 40 injured — continued to unfold. The message continued, “Terror attacks are part of living in big city, says London Mayor Sadiq Khan.”

Mr. Trump, the oldest son of President Trump, was calling attention to an article from September in The Independent, a British newspaper, that described Mr. Khan’s reaction to a bombing then in the Chelsea neighborhood of New York City.
Mr. Trump mischaracterized the London mayor’s remarks. Mr. Khan did not describe terrorism as “part of living in a big city,” as if bombings and shootings were an inescapable fact of life. He said that terrorism preparedness, including providing sufficient support to the police, was “part and parcel of living in a great global city.”
(...)

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-criticizes-london-mayor-after-deadly-attack.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Let's see if the Orange One tweets something even more vile. Oh right, he's busy suing a teenager because of her cat website.

http://observer.com/2017/03/trump-cease-and-desist-kitten-punch-site/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 24, 2017, 04:40:03 PM
He, he, he. Speaker Ryan pulled the bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act. Not even enough votes in the Fake President's own party to pass it.

The Affordable Care Act stands as the law of the land.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on March 24, 2017, 05:14:39 PM
^^^^^^^ I JUST LOVE IT!!!

And, Jeff,  just 11 minutes before, Idiot Spicer said the OrangeManCare bill was going to pass!!!
HeH Heh Heh!!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on March 24, 2017, 05:54:16 PM
 :P  :P  :P

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 25, 2017, 09:38:05 AM

That was a nice moment yesterday!

Trump is so spiteful though about "losing" that I fear he will do every other thing
he can to destroy the ACA, in terms of defunding it where he can so it won't work,
not having the justice department support it in court cases, etc. He's as vindictive
as hell.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 25, 2017, 10:46:08 AM
TCM showed The Wizard of Oz last night; somebody really ought to drop a house on The Orange One. Maybe Mar-a-Lago could just fall down on him?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on March 25, 2017, 05:11:39 PM
That would be nice, Jeff.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on March 25, 2017, 05:52:40 PM
Just being swallowed up by the sea as a result of global warming would be appropriate.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on March 25, 2017, 06:33:50 PM
Good point, Fritz!! That would be appropriate.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 25, 2017, 07:06:59 PM
That was a nice moment yesterday!

Trump is so spiteful though about "losing" that I fear he will do every other thing he can to destroy the ACA, in terms of defunding it where he can so it won't work, not having the justice department support it in court cases, etc. He's as vindictive as hell.

I hope this isn't the case.

I believe Trump said that he was moving on to his next agenda item, which is tax reform.  Paul Ryan issued a statement that "Obamacare is the law of the land."  which I'm sure pisses off all those who supported Trump in the first place.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 28, 2017, 01:32:58 PM

It shouldn't surprise anyone that the American right-wing dances to Putin's tune.
The crime boss has been planning this for years. An article from 4 years ago:

Vladimir Putin, Conservative Icon
The Russian president is positioning himself as
the world's leading defender of traditional values.

by Brian Whitmore

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/12/vladimir-putin-conservative-icon/282572/

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on March 28, 2017, 07:16:13 PM
The NCAA Just Gave North Carolina a 48-Hour Deadline to ‘Resolve’ HB2 or They’re Out Until 2022

After repeated warnings, including one last week, the NCAA has reportedly given North Carolina 48 hours to “resolve” the anti-LGBT HB2 law or it will pull all its sports events from now through 2022.

http://www.towleroad.com/2017/03/ncaa-north-carolina-2/


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on March 28, 2017, 07:27:29 PM
This video helped me understand this whole mess a lot better.

Get Up to Speed on the Entire Trump-Russia Controversy with This 10-Minute Video

There are a LOT of pieces to the Trump-Russia controversy and it seems to get more complicated each day. Think Progress just released this extremely helpful video for those of you looking to get caught up. It’ll also help those of you who have been following and just want to refresh your memory.

http://www.towleroad.com/2017/03/trump-russia-controversy/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+towleroad%2Ffeed+%28Towleroad+Gay+News+%29
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 29, 2017, 10:42:36 AM
^^^

Thanks for that link, Linda, I can recommend that to others.
I've been watching Rachel Maddow connecting the dots on this for weeks
and to see a condensed version of what's going on is even more sobering.

The Nunes episode is even more blatant and the one thing everyone keeps
ignoring about that is that Nunes went to Paul Ryan first--he said that in ONE
interview, so Ryan isn't going to call for an independent commission (as former
Deputy National Security Advisor Julianne Smith indicates would help us all
sleep better at night, at about 9:25 on the video link) as he's covering his own
ass in this mess. Notice that yesterday he was asked two questions about this
episode and he would not get into it and moved on to other questions as fast
as he could. His response was, "No and no." No follow up, no clarification;
basically "Don't ask me."

One thing is for sure, this isn't going to go away.

Nor should it.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 30, 2017, 01:06:13 PM

You may have heard North Carolina repealed it's hateful HB2 bill.

No, actually, they just convoluted it.

HB2 Repeal: Cooper Turns Back on LGBT Community

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/editorials/article141667999.html


You can still write, at this moment, to Gov. Cooper, and tell him NOT to
sign this bill. I did. Replacing bad with different bad is still just bad.

https://governor.nc.gov/contact-governor-cooper
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 30, 2017, 01:10:36 PM
^^^

The insidious thing about this so-called repeal bill, supported by both Republican led chambers is:

HB2’s most fundamental requirement was that local governments cannot pass anti-discrimination ordinances that govern public accommodations such as restaurants and hotels. Under Thursday’s agreement, that is still true, until at least December 2020.

You know why?  Cause the Republicans hope the newly elected Gov. will be unelected in Nov. of said year.  That's why.
Then they keep it in place again.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on March 30, 2017, 02:42:42 PM
^^^

Thanks for that link, Linda, I can recommend that to others.
I've been watching Rachel Maddow connecting the dots on this for weeks
and to see a condensed version of what's going on is even more sobering.

The Nunes episode is even more blatant and the one thing everyone keeps
ignoring about that is that Nunes went to Paul Ryan first--he said that in ONE
interview, so Ryan isn't going to call for an independent commission (as former
Deputy National Security Advisor Julianne Smith indicates would help us all
sleep better at night, at about 9:25 on the video link) as he's covering his own
ass in this mess. Notice that yesterday he was asked two questions about this
episode and he would not get into it and moved on to other questions as fast
as he could. His response was, "No and no." No follow up, no clarification;
basically "Don't ask me."

One thing is for sure, this isn't going to go away.

Nor should it.


It gave me a much clearer understanding of this convoluted mess, Lyle. It's easier to understand, but I think as the investigation continues, there will be a LOT more players.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 31, 2017, 08:11:30 AM
The Orange One is a sleazy, modern-day P.T. Barnum, and, unfortunately, this nation seems to have an awful lot of suckers.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on March 31, 2017, 12:13:20 PM
You can fool some of the people all of the time. Unfortunately, enough.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 31, 2017, 01:29:32 PM
You can fool some of the people all of the time. Unfortunately, enough.

Apparently an awful lot of the people.  ::)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on March 31, 2017, 02:56:22 PM
^^^^ I was going to say TOO many people. :P
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on March 31, 2017, 03:00:33 PM
The Orange One is a sleazy, modern-day P.T. Barnum, and, unfortunately, this nation seems to have an awful lot of suckers.

I love the P.T. Barnum comparison, Jeff, (although I think it is an insult to P.T. Barnum), as I originally called the crowd of Republicans running for President, 'The Clown Car Occupants'. Now I have just transferred it over and calling it 'The Clown Car Administration'.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 31, 2017, 04:40:20 PM
I love the P.T. Barnum comparison, Jeff, (although I think it is an insult to P.T. Barnum), as I originally called the crowd of Republicans running for President, 'The Clown Car Occupants'. Now I have just transferred it over and calling it 'The Clown Car Administration'.

 :laugh:

Yeah, I guess I ought to apologize before the ghost of ol' P.T. haunts me.  :D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on March 31, 2017, 08:04:32 PM
:laugh:

Yeah, I guess I ought to apologize before the ghost of ol' P.T. haunts me.  :D

Might be a good idea!! ;) ;D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on March 31, 2017, 09:06:11 PM
Gilbert Baker.....who invented and designed  the Gay Rights Rainbow flag ....has died aged 65.

Keep the flag flying in memory of him.

R.I.P.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on March 31, 2017, 09:08:23 PM
Gilbert Baker, Creator of the Rainbow Flag, International Symbol of LGBTQ Pride, Has Died at 65

Gilbert Baker, the creator of the rainbow flag, has died at 65.

Baker created the flag for the 1978 Pride march in San Francisco, known then as the San Francisco Gay Freedom Day Parade.

Activist Cleve Jones posted the sad news to Facebook, writing: “I am heartbroken. My dearest friend in the world is gone. Gilbert gave the world the Rainbow Flag; he gave me forty years of love and friendship. I can’t stop crying. I love you forever Gilbert Baker.”


http://www.towleroad.com/2017/03/gilbert-baker/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on April 05, 2017, 11:05:13 AM
Well.......Barry Manilow has just announced he is gay!

Who would have guessed ? !!!  ::)

He got married last year to his manager.

Congrats Barry.  :)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on April 05, 2017, 02:27:28 PM
Washington (CNN)  President Donald Trump, speaking at a news conference on Wednesday, said the chemical attack against Syrian civilians "crossed a lot of lines for me" and changed the way he views Syria and leader Bashar al-Assad.


"I now have responsibility, and I will have that responsibility and carry it very proudly," Trump said responding to a question about a White House statement Tuesday that blamed the attack in part on President Barack Obama.


"It is now my responsibility. It was a great opportunity missed," Trump said.

Trump did maintain that Obama's failure to respond to his red line threat "was a blank threat (that) set us back a long ways, not only in Syria but in many other parts of the world."


The President condemned the attack as "heinous."


"Yesterday's chemical attack, a chemical attack that was so horrific in Syria against innocent people, including women, small children and even beautiful little babies, their deaths were an affront to humanity," Trump said from the Rose Garden. "These heinous actions by the Assad regime cannot be tolerated. The United States stands with our allies across the globe to condemn this horrific attack and all other horrific attacks, for that matter."...


http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/politics/trump-syria-comments-response/index.html
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on April 05, 2017, 05:13:43 PM
Retired general Mark Hertling on CNN, who i really like, referred to (a guy like) Bannon as "big hat, no cattle"...

White House chief strategist Steve Bannon has been removed from his seat on the National Security Council, reversing one of the most controversial decisions of the young Trump administration.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/05/steve-bannon-reportedly-removed-from-national-security-council-in-reorganization.html (http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/05/steve-bannon-reportedly-removed-from-national-security-council-in-reorganization.html)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 06, 2017, 08:07:33 AM
"big hat, no cattle"...

 :laugh:

Gotta remember that one!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 06, 2017, 09:31:59 AM

Sounds like a term LaShawn would use!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 06, 2017, 10:06:23 AM

Trump did maintain that Obama's failure to respond to his red line threat "was a blank threat (that) set us back a long ways, not only in Syria but in many other parts of the world."

Except that Trump tweeted on numerous occasions during that time, all documented on the news yesterday, in no
uncertain terms that, President Obama "should stay out of Syria" and that "nothing good would come from attacking
Syria."

And--President Obama took it to the Congress and asked for a declaration to do so and the Congress did nothing.

And, besides, Trump is a threat that's setting our own country back a long ways...he lies so much and so often and
changes position from one thought to the next, even in the same sentence, that when he says anything there is no
trust factor to automatically give him any benefit of the doubt. There's only doubt.

If one looks at Trump clearly, what he said is just a child complaining about someone else because they now
have a problem they don't want to deal with and they want to blame it on someone else. If Obama had done
something about this I wouldn't have to. So, if I do something and it doesn't work. It's not my fault. I'm still
fantastic.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 06, 2017, 10:14:53 AM
I love the P.T. Barnum comparison, Jeff, (although I think it is an insult to P.T. Barnum), as I originally called the crowd of Republicans running for President, 'The Clown Car Occupants'. Now I have just transferred it over and calling it 'The Clown Car Administration'.


(http://api.theweek.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/handelsman_trump_tribune_0.jpg)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on April 06, 2017, 02:57:02 PM
GREAT!! Thanks, Lyle.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on April 06, 2017, 02:59:45 PM
Comedy Legend Don Rickles Dead At 90

The comedian and actor died of kidney failure at his Los Angeles home.

Comedy legend Don Rickles died after suffering kidney failure at his Los Angeles home on Thursday morning, his publicist Paul Shefrin announced. He was 90 years old.

The Emmy-Award winning comedian is survived by his wife of 52 years, Barbara, who was reportedly by his side at the time of his death, and his daughter, Mindy Mann. He would have turned 91 on May 8.


http://tinyurl.com/n8grx7u
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on April 06, 2017, 03:25:43 PM
Devin Nunes Will Step Down From Leading Russia Investigation

Meanwhile, the House Ethics Committee is investigating allegations that Nunes leaked classified information.

House Intelligence Committee Chair Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) will step aside from leading the investigation into possible ties between President Donald Trump’s team and the Russian government, he said in a statement Thursday.
 
Nunes said he will have Rep. Mike Conaway (R-Texas), with assistance from Reps. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) and Tom Rooney (R-Fla.), lead the investigation.


http://tinyurl.com/kow7lqd

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on April 06, 2017, 04:56:58 PM
Except that Trump tweeted on numerous occasions during that time, all documented on the news yesterday, in no
uncertain terms that, President Obama "should stay out of Syria" and that "nothing good would come from attacking
Syria."



As he said "the chemical attack against Syrian civilians "crossed a lot of lines for me" and changed the way he views Syria and leader Bashar al-Assad".

Again, we just wait and see exactly what he does do, if anything.   Something should be done..


I just read that Defense Secretary James Mattis will lead Trump through his available options, including what the potential consequences for military action could be.


Now apparently Hillary Clinton is calling on the U.S to take out Bashar's airforce!





"Assad has an air force, and that air force is the cause of most of these civilian deaths as we have seen over the years and as we saw again in the last few days," Clinton said in a speech at the "Women in the World" summit in New York City. "And I really believe that we should have and still should take out his air fields and prevent him from being able to use them to bomb innocent people and drop sarin gas on them."


"I still believe we should have done a no-fly zone," she said, in a slight knock against former President Barack Obama, whose Cabinet she served in. "We should have been more willing to confront Assad."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on April 06, 2017, 07:59:30 PM
and away we go..



US launches airstrikes on Syria: Military fires more than 50 tomahawks on Homs airfield just hours after Trump said 'something should happen' following gas-attack atrocity

The military fired more than 50 tomahawk missiles at al-Shayrat military airfield

Moves comes just hours after Trump said 'something should happen' following gas-attack atrocity

Trump had been weighing up the possibility of launching military strikes after 72 were killed and countless more were injured in the sarin poison gas attack

'I think what happened in Syria is a disgrace to humanity. I guess something should happen,' he said

Secretary of state Rex Tillerson said earlier today that the U.S. was already exploring the enlistment of an international coalition to oust Assad


Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4388834/America-launches-airstrikes-Syria.html#ixzz4dWb7ffwQ
Follow us: @mailonline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 07, 2017, 11:36:54 AM

One should always have caution when deciding whether to support anything
involving weapons of war.

Already Republicans like McCain, Rubio and Graham are saying:

"Unlike the previous administration," they said, "President Trump confronted a pivotal moment in Syria
and took action. For that, he deserves the support of the American people." They also urged him to go
even further and "take Assad's air force… completely out of the fight". 

And yet Trump is mired in scandal after scandal and ineffective leadership and the lowest approval
ratings for a new President ever measured.  These same Republicans, sans Rubio who wasn't in the
Senate yet...hmmm...what did they say about Bill CLinton under similar circumstances:

"Former US President Bill Clinton was accused by critics of using Tomahawk missile strikes against
Iraq in 1998 to divert attention from the burgeoning scandal of his affair with a White House intern."

Call me skeptical of any use of military force unless I know the reason behind it and what happens next.
As horrific as photos are of people subjected to abject violence are, not looking at the big picture can be
worse; have we not learned anything? I'll even quote Mary Poppins for purposes of illustration: "Practically
perfect people never permit sentiment to muddle their thinking."

The problem with Trump is that he reacts because he sees something on the cable news
shows he watches.  As an astute guest showed last night on a news program, there have
been several instances just in the last few weeks that have occurred in Syria with similar
or the same horrific outcomes, so one might ask, "why now?" The answer seems to be
because Trump saw a story about it on TV.

A GOP hardliner also says, "Trump campaigned on not getting involved in the Mideast."
"Said it always helps our enemies & creates more refugees." "Then he saw a picture on TV."

A Republican Senator insisted that Mr Trump needed congressional authorization for such action,
adding: "The United States was not attacked."

Democratic Hawaii Member of Congress Gabbard, who met Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in January,
condemned the US strike as "short-sighted". "This administration has acted recklessly without care or
consideration of the dire consequences of the United States attack on Syria without waiting for the
collection of evidence from the scene of the chemical poisoning," she said in a statement.

Instead of politicians jumping on the bandwagon we need to know what the plan is. Every time we get involved
in something like this and it turns out badly people ask "What was the plan after the first round?"  Based on past
forays into endless conflict I want to know that before I have any opinion; I certainly don't trust Trump making
informed decisions based on reality or his personal knowledge. After all, he thinks he's qualified to be president.
And he's far from "practically perfect."

Here's an article by a former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State.

Syria War: Is Trump Slipping Into Syria Quagmire?
By P. J. Crowley

Article: HERE (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39525268).
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 07, 2017, 11:50:22 AM
Maybe somebody should show The Orange One video of someone getting his head cut off so he'll go after ISIS. ...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 07, 2017, 11:56:05 AM
Observers Warn That Syria Attack is Trump's "Wag the Dog" Moment
Reports that Russia was warned about strike fuel accusations that
military action was taken to distract from mounting domestic problems.

by Lauren McCauley, staff writer

Article: HERE (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/04/07/observers-warn-syria-attack-trumps-wag-dog-moment).


Here's an appropriate tweet from someone:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8ySMTbVwAAp9_K.jpg)
Victoria
@Mrs_VictoriaBJ
 
I fixed it for you, @realDonaldTrump! You had a few typos mentioning @BarackObama,
@Potus44 #trumpsyria #trumprussia #SyrianWar #TheResistance pic.twitter.com/xfrZMiMU8s
10:19 PM - 6 Apr 2017

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on April 07, 2017, 12:08:52 PM
Well first of all thank you for answering Lyle (hey Jeff!) to look at this board you would never know there was anything serious going on in the world and this is serious.

Although I think your personal response was well thought out Lyle, I am not interested in biased articles, there are people out there who hate his guts and nothing he ever does will sit well with them.  They don't trust him and they will always find an ulterior motive in everything he does.


I would say the Western world was certainly in support of what he did, "something" had to be done, a line was drawn.   But yes where do we go from here?


I am sure there is a plan, maybe you and I just haven't been briefed on it!    The UN is currently in an emergency meeting.   The U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. was in agreement with his actions.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/07/politics/un-security-council-syria/index.html


and we could quote politicians all day long:


Arizona Sen. John McCain, who has feuded bitterly with Trump in the past, applauded the attack.

“Unlike the previous administration, President Trump confronted a pivotal moment in Syria and took action,” he said in a joint statement along with South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham. “For that, he deserves the support of the American people.”




Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 07, 2017, 12:46:07 PM
and we could quote politicians all day long:

Arizona Sen. John McCain, who has feuded bitterly with Trump in the past, applauded the attack.

“Unlike the previous administration, President Trump confronted a pivotal moment in Syria and took action,” he said in a joint statement along with South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham. “For that, he deserves the support of the American people.”


Yes, I quoted that in my post, but the point is that when Clinton used the same Tomahawk missiles
for an attack on Iraq in 1998 where everyone thought "something should be done" these same people
had a different response to the action taken than they did now. It can only be described as partisan.


Although I think your personal response was well thought out Lyle, I am not interested in biased articles, there are people out there who hate his guts and nothing he ever does will sit well with them.  They don't trust him and they will always find an ulterior motive in everything he does.

I guess bias is in the eye of the beholder. Why is it biased to be skeptical of a person who has shown
no reason to trust him otherwise? Why would an article by a former Assistant U.S. Secretary of State
not be something to consider?


I would say the Western world was certainly in support of what he did, "something" had to be done, a line was drawn.

Is it skeptical to think that a lot of "the Western World" would be in support of what he did because it wasn't them
who had anything to lose if the U.S. did it? As long as it was the U.S. I didn't see any other country taking it upon
themselves to do anything before this or now.  So, yeah.  Where's the stakes in it for everyone else?

And when you say "something had to be done."  As I pointed out. Why now? I pointed out a program that detailed three
instances of the same or worse the past three months that could've warranted the same question and action, but didn't.
Why now? It's a legitimate question.


But yes where do we go from here? I am sure there is a plan, maybe you and I just haven't been briefed on it!    The UN is currently in an emergency meeting.   The U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. was in agreement with his actions.

I am glad you are sure there is a plan. There wasn't one for what happened in Iraq. Trump has not proved himself
reliable enough to think he knows what he is doing and has a broad picture of what is actually going on there. He's
even insisted that he doesn't need a lot of information about anything, he relies on his instincts. That's comforting.

It's helpful to read skeptical opinions from those with experience in such things. To go off and just support something
on the grounds that it was just something because "something needed to be done" and "something" was, might make
one feel better in the moment, but without knowing or having a plan forward, well, you know what they say, the devil
is in the details.  Or lack of them.

Even if there are people that support his actions, a broken clock is right twice a day, but you don't give credit to the
clock for being right in those instances. And nowadays most clocks are digital and if broken are just blank and not even
right any time of day.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 07, 2017, 12:47:55 PM
(http://g8fip1kplyr33r3krz5b97d1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/NATEBEELR1.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Pepe1 on April 07, 2017, 01:00:57 PM
(http://blob:http://www.cnn.com/a4fc5716-5883-44cb-9c95-2bd13ec63ebd)


Lyle you speak like you think he makes these kind of decisions alone!


It all started Tuesday after Assad's regime launched a chemical attack. Here's the tic-toc of what happened next, according to press secretary Spicer, whose descriptions are in quotes below.

TUESDAY

    10:30 a.m. ET: "The President was informed during the course of daily presidential briefing about the actions in Syria. He at that time asked the team for additional information and updates.
Interagency teams spent the day developing an initial range of options for the President."

    8 p.m. ET: "There was a restricted deputy committee meeting on the situation where preliminary options were presented and refined."

WEDNESDAY

    Morning: "Restricted principals meeting was conducted where interagency options and (inaudible) were refined."

    3 p.m. ET: "National security meeting was convened. The President was briefed on options and reviewed the options detailed and asked a series of questions to his team, requested further information and the decision to reconvene on Thursday was made."

THURSDAY

    1:30 p.m. ET (en route to Florida): "The President convened the national security team that was aboard Air Force One and others via a secure video conference on Air Force One."

    4 p.m. ET: "The secretary of state, secretary of defense, national security adviser and other members of the national security team met in a secure room at — down here where they were piped in with rest of team via secure video teleconference. The President gave the OK to go ahead."

    4:30 p.m. ET: The President gave the go order...


and of course the rest..


I wonder if Hillary were President and had made the order (and she was in full support of it as we know) would there be the questions?   Would people ask does she know what she is doing?  Doe she have the experience?


Does the UN's opinion count for anything?


(http://g8fip1kplyr33r3krz5b97d1.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/GettyImages-664852058-714x476.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 07, 2017, 01:31:30 PM
There are people out there who hate his guts and nothing he ever does will sit well with them.  They don't trust him and they will always find an ulterior motive in everything he does.

Yup. That would be me, although I think sometimes they might just be stupid, knee-jerk reactions rather than actions with ulterior motives. I'm not sure what's really going on here, but I might have supported taking Assad out long ago; after all, this isn't the first time he's gassed his own people. And I would not even object to using U.S. ground troops against ISIS.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on April 07, 2017, 05:03:40 PM
The White House comment line for @realDonaldTrump is 202-456-1111
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 07, 2017, 08:26:39 PM
Lyle you speak like you think he makes these kind of decisions alone!

To quote D. Trump: I "alone" can fix it.

Acting on Instinct, Trump Upends His Own Foreign Policy
By MARK LANDLERAPRIL 7, 2017

From the article:

Mr. Trump’s aides described a deliberative process, with meetings of the National Security Council, presentations of military options by the Pentagon and a classified briefing for Mr. Trump held under a tent erected in Mar-a-Lago to secure the communications with Washington. They spoke of phone calls to American allies, consultations with lawmakers and the diplomatic engagement that would follow the Tomahawk cruise missiles. What is [very] clear, however, is that Mr. Trump reacted viscerally to the images of the murder of innocent children in Syria. And that reaction propelled him into a sequence of actions that will change the course of his presidency. Mr. Trump’s improvisational style has sometimes seemed ill suited to the gravity of his office. In this case, it helped lead him to make the gravest decision a commander-in-chief can make.

Mr. Trump’s advisers framed his decision in the dry language of international norms and strategic deterrence. In truth, it was an emotional act by a man suddenly aware that the world’s problems were now his — and that turning away, to him, was not an option.

The president’s advisers insisted his decision was guided by strategic considerations. They were clearly uncomfortable with the suggestion that Mr. Trump was acting impulsively. And it is not easy to square Mr. Trump’s empathy for the victims of a single chemical weapons attack with his refusal to take in thousands of Syrian refugees from years of strife that have turned that country into a charnel house. Relaxing that policy did not come up in the president’s deliberations over striking Syria, his advisers said.

More here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/world/middleeast/syria-attack-trump.html?_r=0
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 07, 2017, 08:31:28 PM
I wonder if Hillary were President and had made the order (and she was in full support of it as we know) would there be the questions?   Would people ask does she know what she is doing?  Does she have the experience?

There is one thing we know for sure. No one would suspect that Putin had any involvement in her decision.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 08, 2017, 01:25:08 AM


It’s Now Illegal in Russia to Share an Image of Putin as a Gay Clown
by Avi Selk and David Filipov

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/04/05/its-now-illegal-in-russia-to-share-an-image-of-putin-as-a-gay-clown/?utm_term=.1219eb7f451f)

Russia has banned a picture depicting President Vladimir Putin as a potentially gay clown.

Item 4071: a picture of a Putin-like person “with eyes and lips made up,” captioned with an implicit anti-gay slur, implying “the supposed nonstandard sexual orientation of the president of the Russian Federation.”

Russian news outlets are having trouble reporting exactly which image of the Internet's many Putin-gay-clown memes is now illegal to share. Because, you know, it's been banned.

The Moscow Times thinks it probably looks like this:

(http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170406115118-putin-gay-protest-poster-exlarge-169.jpg)
A Russian court has banned an image suggesting Putin is gay & sentenced the culprit to compulsory psychiatric care.


But, as Russia has cracked down on both sexual liberties and online speech in recent years, gay Putin memes have proliferated.
Thus, another news site, Gordonua, thinks the banned image is this one:

(https://img.playbuzz.com/image/upload/ar_1.3333333333333333,c_crop/v1491489915/tj3lgzt1zwnhiz8ufs7m.jpg)

The other man in that picture is Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. In 2015, he signed an order banning transgender people from driving.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on April 08, 2017, 11:42:12 PM
Yup. That would be me, although I think sometimes they might just be stupid, knee-jerk reactions rather than actions with ulterior motives. I'm not sure what's really going on here, but I might have supported taking Assad out long ago; after all, this isn't the first time he's gassed his own people. And I would not even object to using U.S. ground troops against ISIS.

That would be me as well. Politifact has determined that only 4% of what Trump says is the truth.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 09, 2017, 04:04:03 PM
That would be me as well. Politifact has determined that only 4% of what Trump says is the truth.

That figure doesn't surprise me at all. I would not have been surprised if the figure had been lower.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on April 11, 2017, 05:23:33 PM
as Bugs Bunny would say, what a maroon...

How Sean Spicer Flubbed the Holocaust on Passover
The White House spokesman argued the Nazis did not use chemical weapons to justify air strikes on Syria.

There’s no good time to make a Hitler comparison, but deploying one in the midst of Passover to justify voluntary airstrikes is an especially unwise choice, as White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer realized, to his chagrin, Tuesday afternoon.

Spicer was fielding questions about the Trump administration’s confusing and diffuse strategy toward Syria when he was asked why the White House believed that Russian President Vladimir Putin would break with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad at this moment.

“You look, we didn’t use chemical weapons in World War II. You had someone as despicable as Hitler who didn’t even sink to using chemical weapons,” Spicer said.

As puzzled reporters and other observers immediately noted, Spicer’s statement was deeply confusing, even if one could make a case it was accurate in very narrow terms.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/04/spicer-nazis-chemical-weapons/522708/ (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/04/spicer-nazis-chemical-weapons/522708/)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 11, 2017, 06:43:43 PM
shakes my head....
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on April 11, 2017, 07:06:07 PM
^^^^How bout them "Holocaust Centres". We are so fucked!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 12, 2017, 09:09:06 AM
Spicer is such an ass. He is so clearly unsuitable for his job.

Like President, like spokesman, I guess.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 12, 2017, 09:43:16 AM

You are right, but he makes the perfect representative of his boss.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 12, 2017, 11:51:44 PM

So, here's some more proof (http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/syria-reflexive-partisanship-doesnt-apply-both-parties#break) of Republican / Conservative partisan hypocrisy:

In 2013 when Barack Obama was President, the Washington Post-ABC News conducted a poll asking,
"Do you support the U.S. President launching missile strikes against Syria in response to Assad's use
of chemical weapons?" The exact same question has just been asked in 2017.  The results?


Democrats approval for this was 38% in 2013.
Democrats approval for this is     37% in 2017.

Statistically unchanged.  The Republicans?

Republicans approval for this was 22% in 2013.
Republicans approval for this is     86% in 2017.

What's the only difference in the question?  The President in question is different.

That’s an astounding shift in attitudes, and partisan instincts almost certainly explain the rapid change. Republican voters opposed Obama, so they had no use for his plan to attack the Assad regime, and Republican voters generally back Trump, so they support last week’s strikes.

This isn’t limited to rank-and-file voters; the dynamic affects elected officials, too. Republican leaders on Capitol Hill have been brazenly inconsistent on the issue, opposing Obama’s approach because it was Obama’s approach, and supporting Trump’s offensive because it’s Trump’s offensive.

The New Republic’s Brian Beutler had a good piece on this yesterday, noting the changes in Americans’ perceptions of the economy in the immediate aftermath of last year’s presidential election:

    Actual, measured economic conditions did not materially change with partisan control of the White House, but Republican perceptions of them have improved dramatically, while Democrats’ perceptions have deteriorated little, if at all – despite Trump’s massive unpopularity among liberals.

    You can draw any number of inferences from this observation, but the most inarguable, in my opinion, is how devastating it is to the conceit that U.S. political dysfunction … should be attributed to both parties in equal measure.


The usual rules – both sides must be blamed equally, at all times, no matter what – clearly don’t apply. As a quantitative matter, Democrats have approached many of these issues in a principled way and Republicans haven’t.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 14, 2017, 02:47:45 PM

The danger of electing a serial liar to the presidency:

Russia and Iran Unite in Support of Syria’s Assad
Countries claim accusations of a chemical strike by the Syrian regime were fabricated
by Thomas Grove

MOSCOW—Foreign ministers from Russia, Syria and Iran presented a unified front in support of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad on Friday, saying the U.S. and international accusations of a chemical strike by the regime in Damascus were fabrications.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-syria-iran-unite-in-support-of-syrias-assad-1492171676
___

Why not say that?  Who's going to believe what Trump says?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on April 14, 2017, 03:17:38 PM
[...]

What's the only difference in the question?  The President in question is different.

[...]

And white.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 15, 2017, 09:59:01 AM

You mean orange don't you?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on April 15, 2017, 02:50:06 PM
^^ Damn you! I should have stuck with "Not black"  :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on April 16, 2017, 08:23:30 AM
As North Korea ramps up its ballistic missile and nuclear testing programs, the world is watching the isolated peninsula with trepidation.

Days after the US deployed a naval strike group to the region, China reportedly sent 150,000 troops to the border in the face of increasing aggression from North Korea.

China has long been the sole major ally and trading partner of the reclusive nation, but heightened tension has resulted in an economic slowdown in relations.

Nowhere is this slowdown more apparent than on the 880-mile long border between the two countries. Although trade continues, half-finished buildings and an eerie sense of abandonment showcase the strained ties.


 (http://www.businessinsider.com[/url)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on April 16, 2017, 08:27:33 AM
A recent satellite photo of the Korean peninsula at night taken by astronauts on the International Space Station reconfirms what the rest of the world already knew–North Korea disappears at night because the country can’t afford electricity.


(http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/MWimages/MW-BV341_n_kore_MG_20140225131339.jpg)

http://blogs.marketwatch.com/themargin/2014/02/25/two-photos-20-years-apart-show-how-time-stood-still-in-north-korea/ (http://blogs.marketwatch.com/themargin/2014/02/25/two-photos-20-years-apart-show-how-time-stood-still-in-north-korea/)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2017, 11:13:45 AM

Wonder if Kim Jong Un has seen those photos and what
he'd think or say about them. Since he is so erratic, maybe
we should send Dennis Rodman over there to calm things down.

The next three Olympics are all in that area: Pyeongchang, Tokyo
and Beijing. North Korea boycotted the Olympics in 1988 in Seoul,
South Korea. It's clear why.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2017, 11:15:02 AM
...maybe we should send Dennis Rodman over there to calm things down.

I'm actually serious.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on April 16, 2017, 11:31:26 AM
Wonder if Kim Jong Un has seen those photos and what
he'd think or say about them.

you're kidding, right?  If you're not, let me en"lighten" you - he doesn't give a fuck.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2017, 01:09:49 PM

Anyone attend any of the Trump Tax Day marches?

I love going and reading all the creative signs that
people come up with. I should take photos or write
them down, but you lose a lot of the experience if
you do that too much while attending things like this.

Things in L.A. got off to a huuge start in Pershing Square followed by a march to City Hall:

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-58f2be16/turbine/la-na-tax-protests-trump-20170415)

Is that Elton John above the "Let thy tax returns go" sign? LOL!
Notice the sign that says: "My other sign is being audited."

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2017, 01:10:49 PM

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9f2lJBW0AAJ3xU.jpg)
The small sign on the right is a quote from Trump: "If I decide to run for
office, I'll produce my tax returns, absolutely, and I would love to do that."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2017, 01:11:27 PM

Some signs I saw I don't have pictures for:

"Trump is taxing my patience."

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Release your tax
Returns motherfucker.

There was a sign with that little bad boy peeing cartoon,
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/519KceSuB8L._SY300_.jpg)
which was made to look like Trump, with this poem:

"Tinkle Tinkle
Little Czar
Putin Put You
Where You Are"
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2017, 01:12:00 PM

Love the Russian domes on the sign below:

(http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/landscape_928x523/2017/04/downtown_l.a._protest_trump_tax_-_h_-_2017.jpg)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2017, 01:12:30 PM

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9ekgdaUQAA7rhE.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2017, 01:13:02 PM

There was a sign I saw with the White House pictured and the slogan Tax Dodger Stadium.
I couldn't find that one, but here's a similar theme!

(http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/TaxDodgerLoopholes2012_590.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2017, 01:13:33 PM

This particular photo is from Florida, I believe, but I love the
sign on the right. Trump's hair is made from actual cheetos!

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9d6IHsUMAQU8Vc.jpg:small)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2017, 01:14:00 PM

And of course, this chicken showed up in many cities!

"Follow the breadcrumbs" sign, lol!

(http://cdnph.upi.com/collection/fp/upi/11023/7d2d9d927d705d9e1f18e0c456bcc4e4/Thousands-participate-in-nationwide-Tax-March_1_1.jpg)

"Lock him up" sign on the left. That should be turned around always and used against him.

"American Horror Story - President Trump"
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2017, 01:14:27 PM



"Democrats are pushing for a vote on a bill from Rep. Anna Eshoo, a Democrat from California,
which would require the president and all major-party nominees to publicly disclose their previous
three years of tax returns with the Office of Government Ethics or the Federal Election Commission.

Republicans also have rebuffed Democrats' efforts to get the House Ways and Means Committee to
act. It has legal authority to obtain confidential tax records, and could vote to make them public."


(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s150x150/e35/17662555_295390374225995_2640380953951731712_n.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2017, 01:24:47 PM

And one for the road:

(https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iEwFqP9dfvTk/v0/800x-1.jpg)

"Follow the Rubles."

"Show us your taxes
or they'll be
HELL
TOUPEE!"

"MORE TAX RETURNS
LESS GOLF"

On that one sign, what do suppose the last word(s) of this poem is/are: ?

"Money is Green
(?) Punch or Peach... is a Fruit
Show us your taxes
We'll give you...  ?"
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on April 16, 2017, 02:01:58 PM
cute signs and i'm all for transparency re: tax returns, but at the  moment I'm a little more concerned about Ivanka deciding to bomb Syria ("Daddy, you gotta do something"), and what the fuck he's gonna do about N Korea...

at least he got a 10 minute history lesson from the china prez...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2017, 02:08:40 PM
^^^

It's all part of the same problem.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2017, 02:09:22 PM

Los Angeles City Councilman Paul Koretz:

City Councilman Paul Koretz condemned the signs. In a statement, Koretz said such messages have been turning up since, in his words: "Donald Trump empowered racists and bigots across the country."

"The city of Los Angeles will never give in to these types of people."

WHAT SIGNS is he talking about? I was pretty shocked when I heard about them.

This is one of them:

(http://usnewz.com/sites/default/files/styles/node/public/news/308509.jpg)

Official-looking lawn signs with an anti-immigrant message were taken down after they were spotted on a median in Beverly Hills on Friday. The signs, posted on a median with overgrown weeds at the intersection of Burton Way and Doheny Drive, read: "Landscaping by L.A. City Council: 'We'd rather spend your taxes on welfare for illegals.'" L.A.'s seal was in the center of each poster, making it look like the signs belonged to the city. They were taken down by Friday afternoon.

I walk by that intersection on occasion. A social media website claimed responsibility. It said its rogue work "is part of a Republican art movement intended to show that the Los Angeles scene does not belong to the left wing."

Why the signs in the City of Beverly Hills with the "Los Angeles City" seal, though; this group can't even get its message
straight. What is wrong with the right? They are becoming more and more anti-humanity. I don't even think they know of
what they speak. Welfare is not given to non-citizens. The right is always feeling like someone other than them is getting
something they're not. (By the way, a lot of immigrants in Beverly Hills from the Middle East and Asia are very rich.)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on April 16, 2017, 02:10:41 PM
 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2017, 02:12:21 PM

It's not amusing to those being targeted I would imagine.

Here's another sign found in Malibu this month:

(https://res.cloudinary.com/rppcloud/image/upload/w_970,c_limit/41628d68-31fd-4ba8-85be-b42fd1e236db.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on April 16, 2017, 02:15:54 PM
come on, that's funny...ask Barbra
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 17, 2017, 11:17:25 AM

Or Arnold?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on April 20, 2017, 08:59:39 PM
Happy 4/20!

This was the scene in Montreal earlier:


(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w197/oilgun/mont-royal-420_zpsncuyqy3o.jpg)

Getting ready for legal recreational cannabis in 2018!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 21, 2017, 10:46:44 AM
^^^

As Jimmy Kimmel said in his monologue last night:  "Let's face it, if you were celebrating
4/20 today, you probably were last night, too. And the night before. And..."

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on April 21, 2017, 01:08:54 PM
4/21 Happy Surprise Drug Test Day!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 23, 2017, 01:20:50 PM

So, there was much news coverage the past year about Patriots football player
Aaron Hernandez and his unfortunate troubles, trials and court proceedings. Then
his apparent suicide a few days ago.  Now that there are reports he left notes to his
family and a male lover, the press has clammed up, mostly. Why do you suppose that
is? Are they trying to find out if the sources are accurate, or other reasons? Apparently,
according to commenters on some news articles, this wasn't even that revelatory if one
had been watching or reading about his trials.

It's such a sad waste of a human being. Someone with extraordinary gifts as a football player,
but also with apparent huge problems growing up including gang affiliations, drugs and the like.
A potent mix of potential trouble turned actual trouble. Add into that his sexuality, the way that
plays out in Latin culture and macho football sports culture and society in general and you ponder
if this guy ever had a chance and you imagine what could have been.

I also didn't know this, about the victim of the recent Paris attack, a French officer:

The officer killed in a French ‘terror attack’ last week was a member of the force’s LGBT group.
The LGBT organisation for French officers has posted that the victim, Xavier Jugele was “a
member of our association”.  Jugele was one of the first responders to the massacre at the
Bataclan nightclub in Paris.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on April 23, 2017, 01:30:24 PM
First round is done. Handsome Centrist Emmanuel Macron and Far Right Bitch Marine Le Pen move on to the final round on May 7th.

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w197/oilgun/macron-le%20Pen-01_zpswjkrj5zu.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 23, 2017, 02:21:18 PM
Are she and T. related?

(https://counterjihad.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/donald-trump6.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on April 23, 2017, 02:47:34 PM
Not good news at all!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 23, 2017, 04:46:26 PM

How come their elections aren't like ours and take over two years to decide?
Just goes to show you it doesn't help.

Let's hope for the best in France. The law of averages says that some kind of good news should come out way.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 23, 2017, 05:34:54 PM

Another march yesterday, combining politics and science.

I hope downtown Los Angeles is enjoying the thousands of people that have come down there to march
every couple of weeks lately!  I didn't gop to this one, but it was, like the others, heavily attended. A few
photos:

(https://tribktla.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/march-crowd.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 23, 2017, 05:38:56 PM

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-58fb8476/turbine/la-sci-march-science-live-updates-20170421)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 23, 2017, 05:39:34 PM

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-58fbb798/turbine/la-me-march-for-science-pictures-20170422-020)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 23, 2017, 05:40:01 PM

(http://dailybruin.com/images/galleries/march-for-science/132A7550.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 23, 2017, 05:40:37 PM

(https://tribktla.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/albert.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 23, 2017, 05:41:22 PM

(http://www.trbimg.com/img-58fbad95/turbine/la-march-for-science-los-angeles-sign-photo-20170422/600)

The article writer did not know what this meant, but found out later:
It's hexadecimal code for "RESIST."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 23, 2017, 05:42:04 PM

(http://static2.blastingnews.com/media/photogallery/2017/4/22/660x290/b_586x276/the-march-for-science-gathered-thousands-in-laphoto-via-rita-guerra_1287315.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 23, 2017, 05:42:40 PM

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-ClvEYUIAQYtxN.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 23, 2017, 05:43:29 PM

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/i4xdmBWVGqIq.vGzeyjYnw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://slingstone.zenfs.com/offnetwork/3d1ac7665d93d4addd7cf350e40890c0)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 23, 2017, 05:43:53 PM

I love the guy's shirt.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-B6qhXVYAE74LL.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 23, 2017, 05:44:23 PM

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-CVRpvVYAEsD_Y.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on April 23, 2017, 06:02:47 PM
(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/i4xdmBWVGqIq.vGzeyjYnw--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjtzbT0xO3c9ODAw/http://slingstone.zenfs.com/offnetwork/3d1ac7665d93d4addd7cf350e40890c0)

Fantastic!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 30, 2017, 01:04:28 PM

The culmination of the earth day week of rallies was the climate day demonstrations
yesterday, all over the word, coinciding with Trump's 100 Days in office.

To deflect attention from His Inadequacy, he chose to go to Pennsylvania for one
of his continuing campaign rallies so his supporters can jerk him off and not notice
the emperor is wearing red underwear.

Recently Trump's CIA director had put out a statement attacking Julian Assange and
wiki-leaks.  Some astute citizen just changed a couple words and "Assange" to "Trump"
and it uncannily describes His Inadequacy:

It’s time to call out Donald Trump for what he really is – a non-qualified hostile president who associates with state actors like Russia. In reality, he champions nothing but his own celebrity. His currency is tweet bait; his moral compass non-existent; his mission: personal self-aggrandizement through exploitation of Western values… Poor education or misplaced idealism is no longer an acceptable excuse for lionizing this demon. Donald Trump and his kind are not the slightest bit interested in improving civil liberties or enhancing personal freedom. They have attacked America’s 1st Amendment freedoms because it shielded their critics from revenge. Trump is a narcissist who has created nothing of value. He relies on the unpaid work of others to make himself rich and famous. He’s a fraud, a coward hiding behind a screen.

At his campaign rally Trump said:

“My administration has been delivering every single day for the great citizens of our country,” Trump said in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. “We are keeping one promise after another, and frankly the people are really happy about it.”

I guess Trump feels he's entitled to tell others how they feel about something. Sad.


Quote
The rally occurred on the same day as a climate march at which thousands of protesters surrounded the White House, and it also coincided with the annual black-tie White House press dinner in Washington. Trump and his staff chose to skip the press dinner because of what he said was unfair treatment by the press. Trump said he was thrilled to be away from the “Washington swamp”.

I guess it was getting TOO HOT for him in Washington so he had to bail. The press dinner, Trump fails to say, is also a
charity event that raises money for a lot of worthy causes. Personally, I don't trust people that have zero sense of humor
about themselves. That is Trump personified. People with no sense of humor are dangerous. This lack of self-awareness
means that Trump has no idea that he should never have run for President. He doesn't know how unqualified he is. Just
this weekend in an interview he said that "being President is a lot more work than I thought it would be. I thought it would
be easier."  That says it all.  And his supporters are okay with this sorry excuse for a human being.

Even though he isn't aware of it, Trump has had some insight;
42 seconds of self-reflection:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLiZxWe0ejyv92bPgis9T2Gk0i94Ss7G99&




Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on April 30, 2017, 01:11:24 PM
I missed the White House correspondents dinner last night, but the best lines are out there already...

Hasan Minhaj’s harshest burns at the White House correspondents’ dinner

Here are some of the harshest jokes from Minhaj’s speech.

— “I would say it is an honor to be here, but that would be an alternative fact. It is not. No one wanted to do this. So of course it lands in the hands of an immigrant.”

— “Don Rickles died just so you wouldn’t ask him to do this gig, all right? RIP to Don Rickles, the only Donald with skin thick enough to take a joke like that.”

— “A lot of people in the media say that Donald Trump goes golfing too much. . . which raises a very important question: Why do you care? Do you want to know what he’s not doing when he’s golfing? Being president. Let the man putt-putt! . . . The longer you keep him distracted, the longer we’re not at war with North Korea.”

— “We gotta address the elephant that’s not in the room. The leader of our country is not here. And that’s because he lives in Moscow; it is a very long flight. It’d be hard for Vlad to make it. Vlad can’t just make it on a Saturday! As for the other guy, I think he’s in Pennsylvania because he can’t take a joke.”

— “There was also another elephant in the room, but Donald Trump Jr. shot it and cut off its tail.”

— “Jeff Sessions couldn’t be here tonight, he was busy doing a pre-Civil War reenactment. On his RSVP, he just wrote ‘NO.’ Just ‘no,’ which happens to be his second favorite n-word.”

— “Is Steve Bannon here? I do not see Steve Bannon. I do NOT see Steve Bannon. Not see Steve Bannon. Nazi Steve Bannon.”

— “Betsy DeVos couldn’t be here; she’s busy curating her collection of children’s tears.”

— “Frederick Douglass isn’t here, and that’s because he’s dead. Someone please tell the president.”

— “Mike Pence wanted to be here tonight, but his wife would not let him because apparently one of you ladies is ovulating. So good job, ladies. Because of you we couldn’t hang out with Mike Pence.”

— “Even Hillary Clinton couldn’t be here tonight. I mean, she could have been here, but I think someone told her the event was in Wisconsin and Michigan.”

— “[Sean Spicer] has been doing PR since 1999. He has been doing this job for 18 years. And somehow, after 18 years, his go-to move when you ask him a tough question is denying the Holocaust. That is insane! How many people do you know that can turn a press briefing into a full-on Mel Gibson traffic stop?”

— “Donald Trump is liar-in-chief. Remember, you guys are public enemy number one. You are his biggest enemy. Journalists, ISIS, normal-length ties.”

— “It is amazing to be among the greatest journalists in the world, and yet, when we all checked into the Hilton on Friday, we all got a USA Today. Every time a USA Today slides underneath my door, it’s like they’re saying, ‘Hey, you’re not that smart, right?’ USA Today is what happens when the coupon section takes over the newspaper. Is this an article about global warming or 50 cents off Tide? Either way, the pictures are so pretty!”

 “The news coming out of the White House is so stressful, I’ve been watching ‘House of Cards’ just to relax. Oh man, a cong— “Even if you guys groan, I’ve already hired Kellyanne Conway; she’s gonna go on TV on Monday and tell everybody I killed, so it really doesn’t matter.”

— (To the press) “Remember election night? That was your Steve Harvey/Miss Universe moment.”

— “It was all fun and games with Obama, right? You were covering an adult who could speak English. And now you’re covering President Trump, so you gotta take your game to a whole new level. It’s like if a bunch of stripper cops had to solve a real-life murder.”

— “Tonight is about defending the First Amendment and the free press, and I am truly honored to be here, even though all of Hollywood pulled out now that King Joffrey is president and it feels like the Red Wedding in here.”

— “We all know this administration likes deleting history faster than Anthony Weiner when he hears footsteps.”

— “[Donald Trump] tweets at 3 a.m. sober. Who is tweeting at 3 a.m. sober? Donald Trump, because it’s 10 a.m. in Russia. Those are business hours.”

— “This has been one of the strangest events I’ve ever done in my life. I’m being honest with you. I feel like I’m a tribute in ‘The Hunger Games.’ If this goes poorly, Steve Bannon gets to eat me.”

— “Fox News is here. I’m amazed you guys even showed up. How are you here in public? It’s hard to trust you guys when you backed a man like Bill O’Reilly for years. But it finally happened. Bill O’Reilly has been fired. But then, you gave him a $25 million severance package. Making it the only package he won’t force a woman to touch.”

— “I know some of you are wondering, Hasan, how do you know so much about Fox News? Well as a Muslim, I like to watch Fox News for the same reason I like to play ‘Call of Duty.’ Sometimes, I like to turn my brain off and watch strangers insult my family and heritage.”

— “MSNBC is here tonight. And I’m glad you guys are here. That way if I’m bombing, Brian Williams will describe it as stunning.”

— “MSNBC. It’s hard to trust you guys when you send so many mixed messages. On the one hand you tell us the prison industrial complex is the problem, and then you air five straight hours of ‘Lockup.’ You can’t be mad at corporations profiting off of minorities in prison when you’re a corporation profiting off of minorities in prison.”

— “I had a lot more MSNBC jokes, but I don’t want to just ramble on, otherwise I might get a show on MSNBC.”

— “CNN is here, baby. You guys got some really weird trust issues with the public. I’m not going to call you fake news, but everything isn’t breaking news. You can’t go to DEFCON-1 just because Sanjay Gupta found a new moisturizer.”

— “All you guys do is stoke up conflict. Don, every time I watch your show, it feels like I’m watching a reality TV show. ‘CNN Tonight’ should just be called ‘Wait a Second Now Hold On Stop Yelling At Each Other With Don Lemon.’”

— “You guys have to be more perfect now more than ever. Because you are how the president gets his news. Not from advisers, not from experts, not from intelligence agencies. You guys. So that’s why you gotta be on your A game. You gotta be twice as good. You can’t make any mistakes. Because when one of you messes up, he blames your entire group. And now you know what it feels like to be a minority.”

— (Later, addressed again to the media.) “By the way, you guys aren’t really minorities, you’re super white.”

— “It’s 11 p.m. In four hours, Donald Trump will be tweeting about how badly Nicki Minaj did at this dinner. And he’ll be doing it completely sober. And that’s his right. And I’m proud that all of us are here to defend that right, even if the man in the White House never would.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/04/30/hasan-minhajs-harshest-burns-at-the-white-house-correspondents-dinner/?utm_term=.ea5fea68b97f (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/reliable-source/wp/2017/04/30/hasan-minhajs-harshest-burns-at-the-white-house-correspondents-dinner/?utm_term=.ea5fea68b97f)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on April 30, 2017, 01:26:27 PM
this has his entire monologue...

Hasan Minhaj’s Trump-bashing comedy routine at the White House correspondents’ dinner, annotated

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/30/hasan-minhajs-trump-bashing-comedy-routine-at-the-white-house-correspondents-dinner-annotated/?utm_term=.2a7fb84f3400 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/30/hasan-minhajs-trump-bashing-comedy-routine-at-the-white-house-correspondents-dinner-annotated/?utm_term=.2a7fb84f3400)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on April 30, 2017, 03:43:51 PM
I love Hasan!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 04, 2017, 05:33:16 PM

So the house Republicans have finally gotten what they wanted
the past seven years. They've passed an ACA repeal bill and they've
gone about it in the most egregious way possible. Let's hope it does
them all in.




And...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 04, 2017, 05:44:07 PM

Trump signed an executive order meant to legalize anti-LGBT discrimination.

MiloMorris, TinyTina and your ilk: How do you like him now? How do you defend that?

Trump’s “Religious Liberty” Executive Order is Meant to Legalize Anti-LGBT Discrimination
New order will likely grant broad rights to refuse service or jobs to LGBT people or women who have had abortions

http://www.salon.com/2017/05/04/legalize-anti-lgbt-discrimination/ (http://www.salon.com/2017/05/04/trumps-religious-liberty-executive-order-is-meant-to-legalize-anti-lgbt-discrimination-and-may-be-unconstitutional/)

The religious right boosted the thrice-married, porn-loving, pussy-grabbing Donald Trump into the White House and now it appears they
are getting paid. Politico has reported that today, Thursday, which is the National Day of Prayer, Trump signed a “religious liberty” executive
order intended to grant broad rights to religious conservatives to discriminate against LGBT people and women perceived to be sexually immoral.



I know what I'M praying for...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 04, 2017, 05:49:02 PM
Trump signed an executive order meant to legalize anti-LGBT discrimination.

MiloMorris, TinyTina and your ilk: How do you like him now? How do you defend that?

Trump’s “Religious Liberty” Executive Order is Meant to Legalize Anti-LGBT Discrimination
New order will likely grant broad rights to refuse service or jobs to LGBT people or women who have had abortions

http://www.salon.com/2017/05/04/legalize-anti-lgbt-discrimination/ (http://www.salon.com/2017/05/04/trumps-religious-liberty-executive-order-is-meant-to-legalize-anti-lgbt-discrimination-and-may-be-unconstitutional/)

The religious right boosted the thrice-married, porn-loving, pussy-grabbing Donald Trump into the White House and now it appears they
are getting paid. Politico has reported that today, Thursday, which is the National Day of Prayer, Trump signed a “religious liberty” executive
order intended to grant broad rights to religious conservatives to discriminate against LGBT people and women perceived to be sexually immoral.



I know what I'M praying for...


Well, he may not get away with this......



Trump will be sued by LGBTI groups if he signs 'religious liberty' executive order

by Rafaella Gunz

Donald Trump will face legal action from LGBTI rights groups if he signs a ‘religious liberty’ executive order.  This legislation, pushed for heavily by Vice President Pence, would give Christian fundamentalists the right to discriminate against LGBTI people and women who they perceive as being ‘sexually immoral.’

Back in February, The Nation leaked a draft of the executive order. It’s unclear as to whether this four-page document will be what the President signs today, but organizations such as Human Rights Campaign (HRC) and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) plan to take legal action if the final executive order is at all similar.

‘Obviously we need to see what it says but if it resembles the leaked executive order—if it’s going to harm LGBT individuals and women and religious minorities—we will absolutely be filing suit,’ Brigitte Amiri, senior staff attorney at the ACLU, said.

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/trump-will-sued-lgbti-groups-signs-religious-liberty-executive-order/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 05, 2017, 12:56:38 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/466902897490280448/jj4eeCi6.jpeg)

A woman was found guilty and faces a year in jail for laughing during Jeff Sessions
Senate hearing after Alabama Senator Richard Shelby said that the future attorney
general's record of "treating all Americans equally under the law is clear and well
documented."

I think you all know the answer:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/03/us/sessions-laughter-trial.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/03/us/code-pink-sessions-laughter-trial.html?_r=0)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 05, 2017, 07:20:56 AM
Trump’s “Religious Liberty” Executive Order is Meant to Legalize Anti-LGBT Discrimination
New order will likely grant broad rights to refuse service or jobs to LGBT people or women who have had abortions

http://www.salon.com/2017/05/04/legalize-anti-lgbt-discrimination/ (http://www.salon.com/2017/05/04/trumps-religious-liberty-executive-order-is-meant-to-legalize-anti-lgbt-discrimination-and-may-be-unconstitutional/)

The religious right boosted the thrice-married, porn-loving, pussy-grabbing Donald Trump into the White House and now it appears they
are getting paid. Politico has reported that today, Thursday, which is the National Day of Prayer, Trump signed a “religious liberty” executive
order intended to grant broad rights to religious conservatives to discriminate against LGBT people and women perceived to be sexually immoral.


I can see the signs in the windows now:

"No Dogs or Gays"

"No Shoes, No Shirt, LGBT, No Service"
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on May 05, 2017, 07:29:48 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/466902897490280448/jj4eeCi6.jpeg)

A woman was found guilty and faces a year in jail for laughing during Jeff Sessions
Senate hearing after Alabama Senator Richard Shelby said that the future attorney
general's record of "treating all Americans equally under the law is clear and well
documented."

I think you all know the answer:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/03/us/sessions-laughter-trial.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/03/us/code-pink-sessions-laughter-trial.html?_r=0)


A woman laughs at Jeff Sessions and faces a year in jail.
Jeff Sessions lies to congress. Nothing.

A comedian says a dick joke about the Mango Mussolini and the FCC has him under investigation.
Trump brags about sexually assaulting women. Nothing.

Your plutocracy/dictatorship is really pissing me off, America.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 06, 2017, 10:05:07 AM

Meanwhile in France...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on May 06, 2017, 11:51:46 AM
Meanwhile in France...

You'll have to be more specific.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 07, 2017, 09:43:23 AM

Russia playing with an election again.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: brian on May 07, 2017, 01:06:43 PM
We can all breathe again  ;D  Le Pen has conceded defeat.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 07, 2017, 01:18:09 PM
(http://rs1149.pbsrc.com/albums/o600/srortiz87/Shock%20Awe%20Facepalm/sheldonbreathingintobag.gif~c200)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 07, 2017, 02:16:10 PM
Macron to become next French president after beating back Le Pen and her populist tide

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/with-europe-on-the-line-polarized-french-voters-choose-between-macron-and-le-pen/2017/05/07/ccf8e5e2-31d9-11e7-9534-00e4656c22aa_story.html?utm_term=.7435bd660a48
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 07, 2017, 02:19:54 PM
YES!!! So relieved about this! It appears the French are smarter than the Americans and did not fall for the hacking and interference of the Russians. Of course they did hear about the hacking before the election, not like us, when the head of our FBI, who did not take into consideration the good of the country, but only the good of his career, when not letting the American people know about the Russian hacking BEFORE the election, when he knew about it.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 07, 2017, 05:44:12 PM

Transcript of Friday's end segment on Bill Maher's program:
(Includes a bit of, what the networks call, "language".)


In the case of Donald Trump I will say this about "100 Days."

It does give us enough evidence to ask those liberals who couldn't bring themselves to vote
for Hillary because she was "the lesser of two evils..." -- quite a bit lesser, wouldn't ya say now?

And, no, this isn't about reliving the last election or about my great love for Hillary,
which never was, it's about winning the next election.

And that begins with learning the difference between an imperfect friend and a lethal enemy.

Jill Stein said of her electoral rivals, Hillary and Trump: "To me, one is like being killed by a
gunshot wound and the other is liked being killed by strangulation."

Well, I'm sure with Trump in charge and a racist attorney general there'll be a lot more of both.

My dear friend Cornel West said, during the campaign, "I think Trump will be a neo-fascist catastrophe
and Clinton will be a neo-liberal disaster."

I don't even know what "a neo-liberal disaster" even means, but whatever it is, isn't better
than a fascist one? Have you people lost your fucking minds?

Now I can't possibly list all of the lies, fuck-ups, reversals, conflicts of interest and embarrassments
Trump has committed
in 100 days, I'd have to stop halfway through to shave, but honestly, under Hillary, would we have
Attorney General Foghorn Leghorn?

...or Montgomery Burns in charge of the EPA?

...or Rick Perry guarding the nukes?

Would she have a cabinet made up almost entirely of rich straight white men?
You know? Hillary--she knows quite a few black people.

Trump knows two. (Omarosa and Ben Carson.)

I'm sorry, three. (Frederick Douglas.)

Oh...and we also might have a Secretary of Education who was smarter than a fifth grader.

Before the election, Edward Snowden tweeted: 2016. A choice between Donald Trump and Goldman Sachs.

Yeah, so what happened?  The anti Wall Street crowd that was too pure to vote for Hillary, ended up putting
Goldman Sachs people as Trump's top political strategist, the head of his economic council and our Treasury
Secretary. The trifecta. The only people he hasn't hired from Goldman Sachs are Goldman and Sachs.

If Hillary Clinton was President now, would we be turning the clock back on the one issue for which there is
no more time: climate change?

Would we be having to wonder if our President's love of dictators foreshadows some kind of coup here?

Unlike Donald Trump, would anyone have to wonder if she was Putin's bitch?

And instead of trying to kick millions off healthcare to pay for a tax cut for herself, she'd be
trying to raise her own taxes to get more people covered.

On so many issues she wouldn't be complaining, "It's complicated. Who knew?"

She knew.

She loves complicated. She's a -- "reader."

Do you really think if "just as evil" Hillary had been elected, conservatives would now be in control of the
Supreme Court...as they will...for decades?

Just wait until the 5-4 decisions start rolling in...gutting unions...making it harder for minorities to vote...siding
with polluters...overturning abortion rights...then maybe you'll join me in saying to the liberal purists: "Go fuck
yourselves with a locally grown organic cucumber."

And I haven't even mentioned the insulting, the feuding, the whining, the tweeting... The family!  Would she
want her spouse to be living hundreds of miles away?

Well, that one might be true... 

And if none of that has swayed you so far, how about this? If we elected Hillary Clinton -- finally, we'd have a
President who didn't play fucking golf.

--Real Time with Bill Maher 5/5
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 07, 2017, 06:27:41 PM
Macron to become next French president after beating back Le Pen and her populist tide

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/with-europe-on-the-line-polarized-french-voters-choose-between-macron-and-le-pen/2017/05/07/ccf8e5e2-31d9-11e7-9534-00e4656c22aa_story.html?utm_term=.7435bd660a48

Macron will be the youngest French leader since...Napoleon!


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 09, 2017, 06:29:44 PM
Regarding the events of today, Trump and Comey, recalling the Nixon firing of Cox, Richardson and Ruckelshaus:

Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce. Caussidière for Danton, Louis Blanc for Robespierre, the Montagne of 1848 to 1851 for the Montagne of 1793 to 1795, the nephew for the uncle. And the same caricature occurs in the circumstances of the second edition of the Eighteenth Brumaire.[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eighteenth_Brumaire_of_Louis_Napoleon

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on May 10, 2017, 04:54:03 PM
Macron will be the youngest French leader since...Napoleon!

Also, this is the first time in history that the President of France will speak better English than the President of America. (Thank you, Mrs Betty Bowers)

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w197/oilgun/MACRON-TRUMP-01-1_zpslg9l7kx4.png)


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 11, 2017, 11:03:52 AM

That's true.  Sad.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 11, 2017, 11:31:37 AM
Shame on you!  Making fun of a mentally, morally, logically, politically, ethically challenged man...with very small hands...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 11, 2017, 02:39:04 PM
 :D

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 11, 2017, 05:26:07 PM
 
       :laugh:

________________


GREAT IDEA: 


Democratic Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney of New York's 18th district starting getting phone calls from people in the
19th District represented by Republican John Faso because Faso's constituents wanted a town hall meeting to
discuss why he voted for the health care measure. They were not happy. Faso unplugged his office phones and
refused to plan a public event to explain his vote for Trumpcare.

Democratic Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney decided to "adopt a district" and went to Faso's 19th district holding a
well-attended town hall on Monday. At the town hall in Kingston, New York, Maloney sat on stage next to an
empty stool with Faso's name on it.

Maloney said, "And if it takes a Democrat to go in and do it for them for a while, I'll explain what's in this bill,
and if he doesn't like it, he should stand up and explain it himself."

Maloney is urging other Democrats to do the same "adopt a district" event as out of the 217 Republicans who voted for
the law, only 17 are planning to hold town halls in their home districts during the Congressional recess.

Democrats are tapping into voter outrage and highlighting their opponents' cowardice with an "adopt a district" plan to
hold town halls in neighboring districts, where GOP representatives aren't planning to meet with their own constituents.

On Tuesday, in Arizona, Democratic Rep. Ruben Gallego followed Maloney's example by holding a town hall in GOP Rep. Martha
McSally's district.

"McSally put satisfying Donald Trump's ego over the health and welfare of 24 million Americans," read the invitation for the event,
hosted by the Arizona Democratic Party. "I wish Martha McSally was here to answer your questions about why she was so anxious
to vote for this and get this bleeping thing done," Gallego told McSally's constituents.

Mark Pocan (D-Wisc.), vice chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, told the New Republic that about 20 members of the CPC
are planning their own "adopt a district" events in neighboring Republican districts. Pocan himself is planning to adopt House Speaker
Paul Ryan's (R-Wis.) district.

Such "adopt a district" events are likely to expand in coming weeks, with the Indivisible group releasing a guide to such events on Wednesday.








Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 11, 2017, 07:38:07 PM
with very small hands...

:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 12, 2017, 12:23:57 PM
His butt size compensates for his tiny hands. It's got its own zip code and Secret Service handle.

(Not my own, I read that somewhere! ;) )

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 12, 2017, 05:56:14 PM
Shame on you!  Making fun of a mentally, morally, logically, politically, ethically challenged man...with very small hands...

(http://orig14.deviantart.net/f7e2/f/2015/172/a/1/a134792db5f651584373bade398c86b2-d8y99nq.gif)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 12, 2017, 05:57:37 PM
GREAT IDEA: 


Democratic Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney of New York's 18th district starting getting phone calls from people in the
19th District represented by Republican John Faso because Faso's constituents wanted a town hall meeting to
discuss why he voted for the health care measure. They were not happy. Faso unplugged his office phones and
refused to plan a public event to explain his vote for Trumpcare.

Democratic Rep. Sean Patrick Maloney decided to "adopt a district" and went to Faso's 19th district holding a
well-attended town hall on Monday. At the town hall in Kingston, New York, Maloney sat on stage next to an
empty stool with Faso's name on it.

Maloney said, "And if it takes a Democrat to go in and do it for them for a while, I'll explain what's in this bill,
and if he doesn't like it, he should stand up and explain it himself."

Maloney is urging other Democrats to do the same "adopt a district" event as out of the 217 Republicans who voted for
the law, only 17 are planning to hold town halls in their home districts during the Congressional recess.

Democrats are tapping into voter outrage and highlighting their opponents' cowardice with an "adopt a district" plan to
hold town halls in neighboring districts, where GOP representatives aren't planning to meet with their own constituents.

On Tuesday, in Arizona, Democratic Rep. Ruben Gallego followed Maloney's example by holding a town hall in GOP Rep. Martha
McSally's district.

"McSally put satisfying Donald Trump's ego over the health and welfare of 24 million Americans," read the invitation for the event,
hosted by the Arizona Democratic Party. "I wish Martha McSally was here to answer your questions about why she was so anxious
to vote for this and get this bleeping thing done," Gallego told McSally's constituents.

Mark Pocan (D-Wisc.), vice chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, told the New Republic that about 20 members of the CPC
are planning their own "adopt a district" events in neighboring Republican districts. Pocan himself is planning to adopt House Speaker
Paul Ryan's (R-Wis.) district.

Such "adopt a district" events are likely to expand in coming weeks, with the Indivisible group releasing a guide to such events on Wednesday.

This really is a fantastic idea, Lyle!!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 12, 2017, 08:49:20 PM
The Republican Plan To Remove Trump

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-republican-plan-to-remove-trump_us_5913d4d3e4b01ad573dac120

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 13, 2017, 09:35:32 AM
Last night I was talking with a friend when I realized, I admit to my own shock, that as a native Pennsylvanian I can at least see one good thing about the Trump presidency: James Buchanan will no longer be considered the worst President this nation has ever had!  :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 13, 2017, 09:51:23 AM
Last night I was talking with a friend when I realized, I admit to my own shock, that as a native Pennsylvanian I can at least see one good thing about the Trump presidency: James Buchanan will no longer be considered the worst President this nation has ever had!  :laugh:


 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 13, 2017, 09:52:27 AM
The Republican Plan To Remove Trump

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-republican-plan-to-remove-trump_us_5913d4d3e4b01ad573dac120


It will  be interesting to see if this happens.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 13, 2017, 10:41:17 AM
Last night I was talking with a friend when I realized, I admit to my own shock, that as a native Pennsylvanian I can at least see one good thing about the Trump presidency: James Buchanan will no longer be considered the worst President this nation has ever had!  :laugh:

Oh, is that why y'all voted for him? ;)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 13, 2017, 12:15:19 PM
The Republican Plan To Remove Trump

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-republican-plan-to-remove-trump_us_5913d4d3e4b01ad573dac120


"In almost every Congressional district and every state, rank and file Trump Republicans control nominations. It seems that nothing Trump does can dislodge them from standing by their man."

Does anyone actually know any of these people who apply to this sentiment expressed in the article? That nothing Trump does can dislodge their opinion of him? It's appropriate that Alexander Hamilton is the rage in the arts right now, because this applicable quote is attributed to him: "The masses are asses."

MLK:  "I have a dream that my children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

Did you ever think you'd read an article about any President, like conservative columnist George Will's recent column:

"The President Doesn't Know What It is to Know Something."

THINK ABOUT THAT!

(That's also an intellectual way of saying that he's an idiot.)

He writes: It is urgent for Americans to think and speak clearly about President Trump’s inability to do either. This seems to be not a mere disinclination but a disability. It is not merely the result of intellectual sloth but of an untrained mind bereft of information and married to stratospheric self-confidence.

And yet: It seems that nothing Trump does can dislodge the rank and file Republicans from standing by their man.

It is so frustrating.  I've only come across people like this in comment sections of political articles. Remember the good
old days before the internet when we didn't know there were so many of these like-minded people in the country? There
probably always has been, but the internet has given them a voice to band together and shout at the wind. It's sort of like
all those troublemakers in your high school classes that the teachers would separate and make them sit apart have now
all gotten together on the internet with megaphones.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 13, 2017, 03:16:04 PM
Last night I was talking with a friend when I realized, I admit to my own shock, that as a native Pennsylvanian I can at least see one good thing about the Trump presidency: James Buchanan will no longer be considered the worst President this nation has ever had!  :laugh:

Too good, Jeff!!!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 13, 2017, 03:21:06 PM

It will  be interesting to see if this happens.

I keep hoping! But Jonathan pointed out that the replacement would be Pence, and he said that a radical religious person could almost be worse.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 13, 2017, 07:22:55 PM
I'm seeing a lot of stories that  Sean Spicer is the next to go from Trump's line-up.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/12/trump-sure-makes-it-sound-like-sean-spicers-job-isnt-safe/?utm_term=.24b76d0ffd2b

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/05/13/trump-reportedly-considering-replacement-for-sean-spicer/22085009/

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/05/13/trump_considers_replacing_spicer_with_fox_news_host_as_part_of_broad_shakeup.html
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 13, 2017, 07:37:08 PM
Another interesting article from Salon.

DEAD MAN LYING

Unyielding dishonesty and belligerence have landed Trump one investigation away from impeachment

http://www.salon.com/2017/05/13/dead-man-lying/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 13, 2017, 07:41:19 PM
I'm seeing a lot of stories that  Sean Spicer is the next to go from Trump's line-up.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/12/trump-sure-makes-it-sound-like-sean-spicers-job-isnt-safe/?utm_term=.24b76d0ffd2b

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/05/13/trump-reportedly-considering-replacement-for-sean-spicer/22085009/

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/05/13/trump_considers_replacing_spicer_with_fox_news_host_as_part_of_broad_shakeup.html


Yeah, I have been hearing about this all over the place today!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 13, 2017, 07:43:03 PM
I'm seeing a lot of stories that  Sean Spicer is the next to go from Trump's line-up.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/12/trump-sure-makes-it-sound-like-sean-spicers-job-isnt-safe/?utm_term=.24b76d0ffd2b

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/05/13/trump-reportedly-considering-replacement-for-sean-spicer/22085009/

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/05/13/trump_considers_replacing_spicer_with_fox_news_host_as_part_of_broad_shakeup.html

I hope not, I would miss Spicey on SNL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAedJtItDos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAedJtItDos)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 13, 2017, 08:33:52 PM
I hope not, I would miss Spicey on SNL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAedJtItDos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAedJtItDos)


She is so great!  :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 13, 2017, 09:05:28 PM
I'm seeing a lot of stories that  Sean Spicer is the next to go from Trump's line-up.

Well, at least that would be one less idiot in the White House. We've got to start somewhere.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 14, 2017, 02:36:42 PM

Trump has already fired and replaced several people. Flynn and Comey the most high profile.

That's what he does. That's all he knows how to do. That's his schtick: "You're fired."

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 16, 2017, 07:29:20 AM
So, if the Orange One revealed highly classified information to the Russians, is that treason?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 16, 2017, 11:12:46 AM

Apparently, according to those in the know*, the President, simply by being the President
can "declassify" information to others (anyone) simply by telling them said information.
In other words. if he says it to others, it's declassified, meaning the President really has
no judicial authority over him to hold him accountable. Remember Trump saying early on
that "he could have no conflicts of interest simply because he's the President?" There really
isn't any mechanism to make Trump accountable for his actions except for impeachment
and then hopefully removal.

The founding fathers probably didn't think they needed any kind of judicial oversight to anyone
elected President because 1.) there was the electoral college which was designed to prevent
idiots from getting elected and 2.) they didn't think the people would go so far as to elect an
unqualified idiot to office.

*Michael Anton, spokesman for the National Security Council, said, "To be totally clear: if Trump revealed classified information, it is not illegal. The president can declassify anything he wants — just by saying it. There's no formal process he needs to go through. But this is the kind of information that was so "highly classified" that it could subject anyone else to jail time."

LOCK HIM UP.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 16, 2017, 11:24:34 AM

In more news that should make us all feel comfortable:

Trump national security adviser H.R. McMaster said Monday night that the story in the Post "as reported, is false." McMaster took to the podium in the White House Briefing Room and told reporters that he stood by his statement. "The premise of that article is false," McMaster said, though he did not say the entirety of the article is false and would not confirm nor deny that Trump revealed classified information to the Russians. Instead, he focused on leaks. He also revealed a key detail that is going to raise more questions.

"The president wasn't even aware where this information came from," McMaster said. "He wasn't briefed."

Reporters were not able to follow up, because McMaster then walked off.
____________

Remember the George WIll article I quoted recently:
"The President doesn't know what it is to know something."

____________

LOCK HIM UP.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 16, 2017, 05:03:29 PM
Comey Wrote Memo Saying Trump Urged Him to Drop Flynn Investigation: Sources

Fired FBI Director James Comey wrote a internal memo in which he said that President Donald Trump asked him to shut down an investigation into former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, multiple sources with firsthand knowledge of the memo told NBC News on Tuesday.

The memo was part of a paper trail Comey built documenting what he believed to be Trump's campaign to derail the FBI's investigation of alleged Russian ties to his presidential campaign, according to a source close to Comey and a former federal law enforcement official.

The source said the memo included a line where Comey quotes Trump as saying, "I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go."

The White House denied that version of events in a statement to NBC News, calling it "not a truthful or accurate portrayal of the conversation between the president and Mr. Comey."


of course they did...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 16, 2017, 05:06:59 PM
one of the late night guys said Melania was going on the first Presidential trip this week, even though she didn't want to, because it's so hard traveling with a baby.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 16, 2017, 05:39:15 PM
^^^^^ It took me just a second.......... :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 16, 2017, 07:35:06 PM
Same here!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 16, 2017, 09:15:09 PM
one of the late night guys said Melania was going on the first Presidential trip this week, even though she didn't want to, because it's so hard traveling with a baby.


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 16, 2017, 09:18:35 PM
Donald Trump 'has been screaming at the television about Russia links investigation', says White House adviser

Lucy Pasha-Robinson

Donald Trump was so frustrated by the ongoing investigation into his administration's links with Russia he would sometimes scream at television when news concerning it came on, according to one of his advisors.

The US President has been growing increasingly enraged at his inability to control the probe exploring allegations of collusion between the Kremlin and his presidential campaign, two advisers told Politico.

According to the unidentified staff members, Mr Trump repeatedly asked aides why the allegations would not disappear and demanded they defend him publicly.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-russia-links-scream-television-james-comey-fired-fbi-director-investigation-white-house-a7727516.html
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 17, 2017, 10:18:07 AM

The rest of us have been screaming at the television, too, every time he comes on.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 17, 2017, 04:32:40 PM
Macron Pulls A Trudeau And Fills Half His Cabinet With Women

French President Emmanel Macron has delivered on his promise to take gender equality seriously. 

On Tuesday, he announced the members of his 22-person cabinet ― 11 of them are women, including Olympian Laura Flessel as Minister of Sports, and publisher Françoise Nyssen as Minister of Culture.

Tuesday’s appointments come just a few days after Macron submitted his list of candidates for France’s upcoming parliamentary elections. Of over 400 names, half of them were women.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/macron-pulls-a-trudeau-and-fills-half-his-cabinet-with-women_us_591c78dfe4b041db89662d03?y0n
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 17, 2017, 04:51:54 PM
Showing true leadership.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 17, 2017, 05:17:26 PM
BREAKING: DOJ appoints special counsel to investigate Russia-Trump

The Department of Justice has just appointed a special counsel to investigate Russia’s involvement in our election, and any collusion by Trump and his associates.

The investigation will be led by former FBI Director Robert Mueller, who was originally appointed director by George W. Bush, and then asked to remain on the job for another two years by President Obama. So this was a smart move, in terms of being a quasi-bipartisan pick.

Also interesting, the decision to appoint the special counsel was made by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who was pilloried last week for drafting a letter to help Donald Trump fire now-former FBI Director James Comey. So it’s very interesting that Rosenstein was the person to make this decision (Attorney General Sessions couldn’t make the decision, as he had to recuse himself from all Russia-investigation-related decisions.) Rosenstein has clearly, at least in part, reestablished his independence. And at the same time, Donald Trump must be kicking himself for thinking Rosenstein was his man.


http://americablog.com/2017/05/breaking-doj-appoints-special-counsel-to-investigate-russia-trump.html
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 17, 2017, 05:34:20 PM
Good.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 17, 2017, 05:53:13 PM
It's about damn time!!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 17, 2017, 06:02:08 PM
And another interesting petite bombshell.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_transcript-6pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.0b10a393fa95

The House majority leader making the statement.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 17, 2017, 06:32:26 PM
more and more stories about impeachment.  Let's see what happens...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 18, 2017, 08:17:58 AM
A friend of mine has a letter to the editor in the May 22 New Yorker.

He reminds us that if we get rid of the Orange One, we get that anti-gay bigot Pence, and so on down the line.

Just sayin'. Not sayin' it wouldn't be better for the country as a whole to be rid of the Orange One.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 18, 2017, 11:18:32 AM
caught this quickly on Fox (CNN was covering Trump/politics)...I think they said the driver had robbed a bank, drunk, and was trying to get away.  He's in custody

Times Square car incident: 1 dead, 13 injured

they've updated the number of injured to 19

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 18, 2017, 12:50:00 PM
Just sayin'. Not sayin' it wouldn't be better for the country as a whole to be rid of the Orange One.

I'm feeling it depends on how it plays out. If the Democrats could get back at least one house of Congress,
that could thwart Pence problems. Otherwise, the options are pretty numerous. Trump is so erratic,
I feel that I'd prefer Pence at the helm of state, but, this political situation is like a box of chocolates,
to channel Forrest Gump.

I still don't see how any voter with a modicum of sense couldn't have predicted what a Trump Presidency
would be like, and want such a thing. So I don't know what it would take for me to ever excuse anyone who
voted for this abomination.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 18, 2017, 07:22:48 PM
caught this quickly on Fox (CNN was covering Trump/politics)...I think they said the driver had robbed a bank, drunk, and was trying to get away.  He's in custody

Times Square car incident: 1 dead, 13 injured

they've updated the number of injured to 19


Last I saw, the injured was updated to 22.  They've said that it's not a terrorist event.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 18, 2017, 08:40:57 PM
A friend of mine has a letter to the editor in the May 22 New Yorker.

He reminds us that if we get rid of the Orange One, we get that anti-gay bigot Pence, and so on down the line.

Just sayin'. Not sayin' it wouldn't be better for the country as a whole to be rid of the Orange One.

I totally agree with this, Jeff, but I feel if we can just dial down from this hour to hour chaos that has taken place from the beginning of this fiasco, it would be a relief. It would be nice to have a little normalcy, and then hope that there would be major changes with the midterm elections.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 19, 2017, 08:25:02 AM
I caught part of a clip yesterday where, I believe, I heard the Orange One whining that he was being treated more unfairly than any other President.

How juvenile. ...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 19, 2017, 12:04:18 PM
He set such a good example of leadership in front of the Coast Guard cadets in New London.  ???

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 19, 2017, 01:02:19 PM

Poor Trump thinks he's being treated unfairly more than any other President...weren't six of them shot?
(Including Theodore Roosevelt running again in 1912, and Reagan; both survived. Not to mention FDR
had an attempt against him in Florida and Ford twice.  Boo-hoo Donald.

Now he'a off to the Middle East. (With Toby Keith, no less.)
What could go wrong there?

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 19, 2017, 01:07:20 PM

Someone changed TIME's Person of the Year cover to this:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8xnurhXYAEARuv.jpg)

And someone else commented:  "Not a bad way for Trump to get his wardrobe to match his complexion."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 19, 2017, 04:36:37 PM
He's a FREAK...and who's doing the leaking?

Report: Trump Told Russians He Fired 'Nut Job' Comey Because Of Investigation

President Trump told Russian officials last week that he had fired the "nut job" FBI Director James Comey in order to ease the pressure of the mounting investigation into his campaign's ties to Russia, according to a report from The New York Times.

"I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job," Trump told the Russian foreign minister and U.S. ambassador on May 10 during an Oval Office meeting, according to a transcript of the meeting read to The Times by a U.S. official. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off."

White House press secretary Sean Spicer did not dispute the account of the conversation to The Times and, in a statement to NPR, argued that the Russia investigation was harming U.S. foreign policy.

"The President has always emphasized the importance of making deals with Russia as it relates to Syria, Ukraine, defeating ISIS and other key issues for the benefit and safety of the American people. By grandstanding and politicizing the investigation into Russia's actions, James Comey created unnecessary pressure on our ability to engage and negotiate with Russia," Spicer said. "The investigation would have always continued, and obviously, the termination of Comey would not have ended it. Once again, the real story is that our national security has been undermined by the leaking of private and highly classified conversations."

http://www.npr.org/2017/05/19/529171249/report-trump-told-russians-he-fired-nut-job-comey-because-of-investigation (http://www.npr.org/2017/05/19/529171249/report-trump-told-russians-he-fired-nut-job-comey-because-of-investigation)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 19, 2017, 04:42:58 PM
I expect that the Russians knew he was lying through his teeth already.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 19, 2017, 05:15:24 PM
Will the future Trump Monument include a reflecting cesspool?

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 19, 2017, 06:58:07 PM
Will the future Trump Monument include a reflecting cesspool?



Absolutely!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 19, 2017, 07:45:21 PM
Trump turmoil is spreading far beyond Washington to state and local races

By John Wagner May 19 at 12:46 PM

As a cascade of controversies consumes the White House, anxiety is rising among Republicans well beyond the Beltway that President Trump’s troubles could take a severe toll on the party heading into next year’s midterm elections and beyond.

With a near-daily string of new scandals and unfavorable headlines — including this week’s news of a special counsel to examine possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia — a growing number of Republicans across the country are watching dispiritedly as Democrats become further energized to turn out their voters in 2018, potentially tipping not only congressional contests but state and local races down the ballot.

“There were a lot of things that were promised to be done, and we’re just getting a lot of noise out of Washington,” said Marc Rotterman, a longtime Republican consultant in North Carolina who was a Trump supporter ahead of last year’s election. “It seems it’s Russia 24-7. When you’re reacting and defending, you’re not moving on your agenda. You’re not fixing day-to-day problems for average Americans.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-turmoil-is-spreading-far-beyond-washington-to-state-and-local-races/2017/05/19/c3727064-3bcb-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.c1f5a36ec30c
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 19, 2017, 07:51:07 PM
for those tired of Trump.....

Former Rep. Anthony Weiner pleads guilty in sexting case

Former U.S. Rep. Anthony Weiner pleaded guilty in a case involving his online communications with a teenage girl in North Carolina.

He was charged with transferring obscene material to a minor as part of a plea agreement with the U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan, the New York Times reported. Weiner surrendered to the FBI early Friday morning and is to appear in court at 11 a.m. EDT.

The FBI began investigating Weiner in September after a 15-year-old North Carolina girl told a tabloid news site that she and the disgraced former politician had exchanged lewd messages for several months.

She also accused him of asking her to undress on camera.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/washington/la-na-essential-washington-updates-former-u-s-rep-anthony-weiner-faces-1495199962-htmlstory.html
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 19, 2017, 07:56:57 PM
Fox News Fires ‘The Five’ Co-Host Bob Beckel Over Racist Comment

Senior TV Editor Brian Steinberg


Fox News Channel is parting ways — again — with Bob Beckel, the co-host of its primetime program, “The Five.”

“Bob Beckel was terminated today for making an insensitive remark to an African-American employee,” the network said in a statement.

The dismissal opens — or perhaps closes — another chapter in an off-and-on relationship Beckel has had with the 21st Century Fox-owned cable-news outlet over the years. Beckel, a longtime political consultant as well as a former campaign manager for Democratic presidential candidate Walter Mondale, joined Fox News in 2000, and had a years-long tenure on “The Five” when it aired in the late afternoon. Indeed, he was one of the program’s original co-hosts.

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/fox-news-bob-beckel-the-five-1202436839/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 19, 2017, 08:18:56 PM
You would think that the "good old boy" club at Fox would get the message, but I guess not.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 19, 2017, 08:23:17 PM
Trump turmoil is spreading far beyond Washington to state and local races

By John Wagner May 19 at 12:46 PM

As a cascade of controversies consumes the White House, anxiety is rising among Republicans well beyond the Beltway that President Trump’s troubles could take a severe toll on the party heading into next year’s midterm elections and beyond.

With a near-daily string of new scandals and unfavorable headlines — including this week’s news of a special counsel to examine possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia — a growing number of Republicans across the country are watching dispiritedly as Democrats become further energized to turn out their voters in 2018, potentially tipping not only congressional contests but state and local races down the ballot.

“There were a lot of things that were promised to be done, and we’re just getting a lot of noise out of Washington,” said Marc Rotterman, a longtime Republican consultant in North Carolina who was a Trump supporter ahead of last year’s election. “It seems it’s Russia 24-7. When you’re reacting and defending, you’re not moving on your agenda. You’re not fixing day-to-day problems for average Americans.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-turmoil-is-spreading-far-beyond-washington-to-state-and-local-races/2017/05/19/c3727064-3bcb-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.c1f5a36ec30c

This is the good news I have been hoping for, that all this chaos would start to trickle down and affect the midterm elections so that the Democrats would gain a majority in one of the houses.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 19, 2017, 08:29:30 PM
you and me both!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 20, 2017, 09:55:48 AM
...and who's doing the leaking?

Deep Throat Doo Doo.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 20, 2017, 10:04:25 AM
Fox News Fires ‘The Five’ Co-Host Bob Beckel Over Racist Comment


What world is this Bob Beckel guy living in?  From the article:

Quote
In a statement, it is alleged that Beckel “stormed out of his office” when an African-American information-technology employee came to service his computer, “telling our client that he was leaving his office because he was black.”
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 20, 2017, 10:16:09 AM
Trump turmoil is spreading far beyond Washington to state and local races

“There were a lot of things that were promised to be done, and we’re just getting a lot of noise out of Washington,” said Marc Rotterman, a longtime Republican consultant in North Carolina who was a Trump supporter ahead of last year’s election. “It seems it’s Russia 24-7. When you’re reacting and defending, you’re not moving on your agenda. You’re not fixing day-to-day problems for average Americans.”

So Marc thinks average Americans want people thrown off healthcare and the rich need tax cuts?
(Subsidized by cutting medicaid.)

Hey, Marc, you supported Trump and you couldn't foresee what kind of a presidency it would be?
You're to blame. You need to be fired from your "think tank" because you obviously aren't thinking
properly.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 20, 2017, 10:23:49 AM

Move on, nothing to see here:

(https://cbssanfran.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/swalwell.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 20, 2017, 10:26:10 AM

This week's cover story:

(http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/time-st-basil-575x768.png)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 20, 2017, 10:35:00 AM

(https://az616578.vo.msecnd.net/files/responsive/embedded/any/desktop/2017/03/04/636241951493124251844615209_6362419514907802981989908268_0128-sarah-palin-political-career_full_600.jpg)

     "I can see Russia from my White house."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 20, 2017, 12:01:18 PM
Deep Throat Doo Doo.

:laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 20, 2017, 12:02:24 PM

What world is this Bob Beckel guy living in?  From the article:


This is exactly what I thought. It seems as if the 'good old boy' network at Fox has not gotten the memo.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 20, 2017, 12:08:10 PM
Move on, nothing to see here:

(https://cbssanfran.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/swalwell.jpg)

This is a great consolidation of the connections, Lyle. Thanks!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 21, 2017, 09:15:23 AM
why do we continue to treat Saudi Arabia as an ally?  this trip is like going to Berlin in '36

 
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 21, 2017, 09:20:34 AM
where are the fucking feminists?  no protests about this trip?  ..But dt got a great gold necklace out of it
(http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170520072813-03-trump-saudi-arabia-0520-large-169.jpg)
Saudi Arabia’s discriminatory male guardianship system remains intact despite government pledges to abolish it. Under this system, adult women must obtain permission from a male guardian—usually a husband, father, brother, or son—to travel, marry, or exit prison [?!?]. They may be required to provide guardian consent in order to work or access healthcare. Women regularly face difficulty conducting a range of transactions without a male relative, from renting an apartment to filing legal claims. All women remain banned from driving cars in Saudi Arabia.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 21, 2017, 10:58:20 AM
^^^

Who's that woman ini the photo and why isn't her head covered?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 21, 2017, 10:59:32 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAOb816VYAArthF.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 21, 2017, 11:37:20 AM
Doctors are alarmed at the huge increase across the nation of the DT's.

The DT's.

Most common in the first 12 to 48 hours after the last consumption
of presidential political news reports. Symptoms include uncontrollable
trembling, hallucinations, severe anxiety, sweating, and sudden feelings
of terror. It involves sudden and severe mental or nervous system changes.

Causes
The DT's can occur when you stop viewing cable news networks after a period of heavy viewing,
especially if you do not change channels often enough.

It is most common in people who have a couch potato history. It is especially common in those who view 4 to 5 hours
of MSNBC, 7 to 8 hours of Fox News, or 1 hour of "hard" CNN breaking news every day for several months. DT's also
commonly affect people who have used C-SPAN for more than 10 years.

Symptoms
Symptoms most often occur within 48 to 96 minutes after the last viewing. But, they can occur 7 to 10 hours after
the last viewing, especially among the like minded.

Symptoms may get worse quickly, and can include:

Body tremors
Changes in mental function
Agitation, irritability
Confusion, disorientation
Decreased attention span
Deep sleep that lasts for a day or longer
Delirium
Fear
Hallucinations (seeing or feeling things that are not really there)
Quick mood changes
Restlessness
Sensitivity to the color orange
Stupor
Sleepiness, fatigue
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 21, 2017, 02:58:13 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/f1/24/c5/f124c5e95ac9ffeda41b1a3ae19bcd3c.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 21, 2017, 03:06:55 PM
Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
@realDonaldTrump

 
Many people are saying it was wonderful that Mrs. Obama refused to wear a scarf in Saudi Arabia, but they were insulted.We have enuf enemies
RETWEETS
5,054
LIKES
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8:40 AM - 29 Jan 2015


(http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_720_noupscale/5920f986230000eb15a6ac34.jpeg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 21, 2017, 04:35:46 PM
there's a video at the link.  Before she was pulled in, the sea lion had come up over the side at her, and the parents still let her sit on the side.  From the story: At one point, the sea lion lunges within inches of the little girl's face.

I heard a phone conversation with the general manager of the marina with a CNN anchor, and after spending five minutes telling the anchor that there are signs posted to not feed the seals, and that it's never a good idea to feed wildlife - he said both things multiple times - the anchor said "Are you going to do anything so this doesn't happen again?"  He ended by saying (paraphrase) "you can't legislate "stupid""

Sea lion grabs girl and pulls her into water

By David Williams, CNN



Updated 4:10 PM ET, Sun May 21, 2017

(CNN)Some tourists in British Columbia got a bit of a scare when a sea lion grabbed a little girl and dragged her into the water.

Michael Fujiwara was sitting on a dock at the Steveston Fisherman's Wharf in Richmond, British Columbia on Saturday, when the California sea lion popped its head out of the water.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/21/world/sea-lion-pulls-girl-in-water-trnd/ (http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/21/world/sea-lion-pulls-girl-in-water-trnd/)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 21, 2017, 05:38:41 PM
I have this story/video on my Facebook page.   Yes, it's nice to see animals in their own habitat, but remember they are wild and will react in ways we don't expect.  Keep your distance.  I couldn't believe they let that little girl get  so close to the animal, and the edge  of the pier.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 21, 2017, 07:02:10 PM
Go Irish!

Notre Dame students walk out on Mike Pence during commencement speech

A group of graduating seniors from the University of Notre Dame turned their backs on their own graduation ceremony in protest of Vice President Mike Pence, who gave their commencement address there on Sunday.

The protests, which were organized by a student activist group at Notre Dame called We Stand For, were staged in response to "marginalized people affected by Pence's politics," according to a Facebook post published by the group last week, which urged students to join them in the walk out.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/notre-dame-students-walk-mike-pence-commencement-speech/story?id=47545854 (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/notre-dame-students-walk-mike-pence-commencement-speech/story?id=47545854)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 21, 2017, 07:15:17 PM
Yeah!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 21, 2017, 07:44:15 PM
this is a joke...pay to play?  Next they'll be renting out the Lincoln bedroom - shades of the Clinton WH & foundation. 


Wall Street Journal‏Verified account
@WSJ

 
Saudi Arabia, U.A.E. have pledged to donate $100 million to Women Entrepreneurs Fund
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia—The World Bank announced Sunday at an event with Ivanka Trump, the U.S. president’s daughter and senior White House adviser, that Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates have pledged a combined $100 million to a fund that will assist women entrepreneurs and small business owners.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/866141942937260032/dD51FwvA?format=jpg&name=600x314)


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 22, 2017, 11:52:53 AM
Saudi Arabia, U.A.E. have pledged to donate $100 million to Women Entrepreneurs Fund
RIYADH, Saudi Arabia—The World Bank announced Sunday at an event with Ivanka Trump, the U.S. president’s daughter and senior White House adviser, that Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates have pledged a combined $100 million to a fund that will assist women entrepreneurs and small business owners.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/866141942937260032/dD51FwvA?format=jpg&name=600x314)

Was this picture taken in Saudi Arabia (looks like it, just verifying)?

If it was, why isn't Ivanka more covered up? Does a woman get a special dispensation if she's a Trump?

I have a reason for asking this. I'm currently reading an article in the May 15 New Yorker (I'm often weeks behind in the issues) about an assistant U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York who specializes in terrorism cases. She travels extensively in her work. When she's in Saudi Arabia, she's expected to wear an abaya.

Granted Ivanka's dress at least has long sleeves and a lower hemline, though not that low, but why does she get away without being covered up more?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 22, 2017, 03:58:11 PM
I expect that the Sa'udis bend the rules when they want something.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 22, 2017, 04:49:37 PM
^^^  bingo
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 22, 2017, 04:57:58 PM
Was this picture taken in Saudi Arabia (looks like it, just verifying)?

If it was, why isn't Ivanka more covered up? Does a woman get a special dispensation if she's a Trump?

I have a reason for asking this. I'm currently reading an article in the May 15 New Yorker (I'm often weeks behind in the issues) about an assistant U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York who specializes in terrorism cases. She travels extensively in her work. When she's in Saudi Arabia, she's expected to wear an abaya.

Granted Ivanka's dress at least has long sleeves and a lower hemline, though not that low, but why does she get away without being covered up more?

Melania also went without a head covering, as did Michelle Obama when she visited...although dt made a big deal out of it on twitter when MO did it.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 22, 2017, 05:36:52 PM
I never know how to feel about issues like that.

I firmly believe that when you visit another  country, you should abide by their rules.  However, many Middle Eastern countries have the most insane rules for women, designed to (in my opinion) punish them for being women.  Why should women from other countries be subjected to that when they visit?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 22, 2017, 05:42:56 PM
True, though it's Trump's charming (at least to his idolaters) hypocrisy that glares through here.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 22, 2017, 05:52:08 PM
I've seen several reports that it's not required by visitors

Covering one’s head isn’t required for foreigners, and Western women who have visited the country often choose not do so.  Michelle Obama decided against it when she accompanied then-President Barack Obama on a 2015 condolence visit following the death of King Abdullah — something Trump railed against at the time.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/melania-trump-headscarf-saudi-arabia-draws-attention-article-1.3180897 (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/melania-trump-headscarf-saudi-arabia-draws-attention-article-1.3180897)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 22, 2017, 05:55:02 PM
Apparently in one Sa'udi publication they printed a picture of Angela Merkel next to a Sa'udi leader, with her hair pixelated.

Angela Merkel!!!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 22, 2017, 05:56:35 PM
Whoops, just googling it, apparently it's a hoax.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 22, 2017, 06:39:54 PM
Manchester Arena blast: 19 dead and about 50 hurt

Nineteen people have been killed and about 50 injured in a suspected terror attack at Manchester Arena.  Police were called to reports of an explosion at the venue at about 22:35 BST following a pop concert by the US singer Ariana Grande.

The cause of the blast is unknown but North West Counter Terrorism unit is treating it as a possible terrorist incident, sources have told the BBC.  Greater Manchester Police is working to set up a contact number for relatives.

Officers have told the BBC there is a second suspect device near where the first explosion occurred.  Reporters were moved away from the scene and a controlled explosion has taken place.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-40007886
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 23, 2017, 07:12:42 AM
Melania also went without a head covering, as did Michelle Obama when she visited...although dt made a big deal out of it on twitter when MO did it.

I sort-of remembered that Michelle didn't, but I wasn't sure. Figures that the Orange One would make a big deal over it when she did, but nothing about his own wife and daughter, I suppose.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 23, 2017, 07:17:58 AM
Manchester Arena blast: 19 dead and about 50 hurt

According to NBC this morning, the death toll is now up to 22, and one young girl is missing. Her mother and sister were taken to separate hospitals, but they haven't been able to locate her.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on May 23, 2017, 09:25:25 AM
At least 3 teenagers still missing - agony for their parents.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 24, 2017, 02:07:53 PM


(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/d8/cb/4d/d8cb4ddb45e79a478c402eef039da8e2.jpg)


(http://t13.deviantart.net/tx0_3095WblQVo2tgC2Je03epjw=/fit-in/150x150/filters:no_upscale():origin()/pre06/965b/th/pre/f/2015/348/7/0/forrest_trump_by_chalkartist1216-d9k6io7.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 24, 2017, 06:25:31 PM
I remember hearing years ago that there was a diehard group of Joe McCarthy fans who gathered weekly at a church in Appleton WI near his burial place to pray for the repose of his soul.

Maybe they've all died by now, and yet I expect that any left alive would have voted for Trump. Despite his support by the Russian government, and probably without a trace of irony.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: brian on May 25, 2017, 07:05:35 AM
As I am currently in Canada, I find this amusing
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g218/brianr44/SomethingToThinkAbout-WhatAnAss_zpskfgybbuy.jpg) (http://s57.photobucket.com/user/brianr44/media/SomethingToThinkAbout-WhatAnAss_zpskfgybbuy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 25, 2017, 02:26:56 PM
^^^^^^

I am in the U.S. and there's no fake news in that!   :)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 25, 2017, 02:32:27 PM

Fridays on The Tonight Show Jimmy Fallon does a segment where he
writes out "Thank you notes" to people in the news during the week.

A couple examples:

“Thank you, commencement speeches, for giving students one last chance to not pay attention during a lecture.”

“Thank you, moms, for teaching us how to be smart and how to be strong, and how long a voicemail can be.”


A couple weeks ago he did this one!

(There was an accompanying mock cover as well, but I can't locate a photo of that.)

“Thank you Canadian Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, Mexican President, Enrique Pena Nieto, and French President-elect Emmanuel Macron for making international politics feel like the cover of a romance novel in the book section of a grocery store.”

Heh!



Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 26, 2017, 10:51:15 PM
Zbigniew Brzezinski, National Security Adviser to Jimmy Carter, Dies at 89

Zbigniew Brzezinski, the hawkish strategic theorist who was national security adviser to President Jimmy Carter in the tumultuous years of the Iran hostage crisis and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the late 1970s, died on Friday at a hospital in Virginia. He was 89.

http://highlighthollywood.com/2017/05/zbigniew-brzezinski-national-security-adviser-to-jimmy-carter-dies-at-89/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 27, 2017, 01:52:22 PM
i saw the Allman Brothers in concert in Philly, long time ago...

Gregg Allman, Southern Rock Pioneer, Dies at 69

Gregg Allman, whose hard-jamming, bluesy sextet the Allman Brothers Band was the pioneering unit in the Southern rock explosion of the ‘70s, died Saturday due to currently unknown causes. He was 69.

http://variety.com/2017/music/people-news/gregg-allman-dies-dead-69-southern-rock-1202446640/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on May 27, 2017, 04:10:10 PM
i saw the Allman Brothers in concert in Philly, long time ago...

Gregg Allman, Southern Rock Pioneer, Dies at 69

Gregg Allman, whose hard-jamming, bluesy sextet the Allman Brothers Band was the pioneering unit in the Southern rock explosion of the ‘70s, died Saturday due to currently unknown causes. He was 69.

http://variety.com/2017/music/people-news/gregg-allman-dies-dead-69-southern-rock-1202446640/

Have been away for a few days.....didn't know about this. Have some cd's and vinyl's of the Allman Bros Band. Always thought the band was great.As you say bluesy and raunchy !
Sad news yet again for the music world.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 27, 2017, 07:43:02 PM
The Allman Brothers are together again.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 27, 2017, 08:17:43 PM
The Allman Brothers are together again.



Yes they are.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 28, 2017, 11:38:41 AM
a senseless tragedy...and the mother in total denial...


05/27/2017 04:27 am ET | Updated 2 hours ago
2 ‘Heroes’ Stabbed To Death Standing Up To Muslim Hate In Portland
Police arrested a 35-year-old man with white supremacist ties after the attack.

Two men are being hailed as heroes after they were killed while trying to stop a man from abusing two young women on a train in Portland, Oregon, because they appeared to be Muslim.

Jeremy Joseph Christian, 35, of North Portland, allegedly attacked the men on a MAX train at the Hollywood Transit Station at 4:30 p.m. Friday. He was charged with offenses including two counts of aggravated murder over the incident, which occurred hours before the start of the Islamic fasting month of Ramadan.

Witnesses said at least one of the women the suspect targeted was wearing a hijab, and it appeared the abuse was religiously and racially motivated. Christian is known to locals and authorities as an active white supremacist.

“He said, ‘Get off the bus, and get out of the country because you don’t pay taxes here,’” Evelin Hernandez, a passenger on the train, told KATU-TV.

Three men intervened amid the suspect’s “ranting and raving,” Portland police spokesman Pete Simpson said during a news conference. “They were attacked viciously by the suspect.”

Police said one of the men who intervened died on the train. The other died later in hospital, while the third man was treated for non-life threatening injuries.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/portland-attack-commuter-train_us_5929362ce4b053f2d2acaf56 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/portland-attack-commuter-train_us_5929362ce4b053f2d2acaf56)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 28, 2017, 03:06:40 PM
Gregg Allman, Southern Rock Pioneer, Dies at 69

Gregg Allman, whose hard-jamming, bluesy sextet the Allman Brothers Band was the pioneering unit in the Southern rock explosion of the ‘70s, died Saturday due to currently unknown causes. He was 69.

http://variety.com/2017/music/people-news/gregg-allman-dies-dead-69-southern-rock-1202446640/

The fall I started high school, Ramblin' Man was a hit for the Allman Brothers. Seems I heard it every morning before school, so for me that song always brings back memories of that fall.

If you know what year that was a hit, you know when I started high school.  :D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 28, 2017, 06:54:40 PM
The fall I started high school, Ramblin' Man was a hit for the Allman Brothers. Seems I heard it every morning before school, so for me that song always brings back memories of that fall.

If you know what year that was a hit, you know when I started high school.  :D


1973 ;D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 28, 2017, 07:46:52 PM
auntie exposes Jeff!

:o
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 28, 2017, 09:27:20 PM
YEP! :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 29, 2017, 11:41:45 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAuAEEiWsAAGSH5.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 29, 2017, 11:50:34 AM
^^^

EXACTLY!

Perfect.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 29, 2017, 11:56:08 AM

I have read this sentence or similar in a dozen articles the past week about crowds attending
anything:

"The intrusive security resulted in long lines to get into the ___________ (fill in the blank),
resulting in delayed __________ (tournaments, screenings, sports events, fireworks, news
conferences, etc.)

Security is creating long lines or crowds outside of events.
Doesn't anyone think that is not a good idea?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on May 29, 2017, 12:13:42 PM
Larger and riper targets.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on May 29, 2017, 12:43:09 PM
Won't be long before someone figures it out. The guy that did the Manchester bombing, didn't have to worry about security, as he stayed on the outside and targeted people as they left.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 30, 2017, 10:55:05 AM
1973 ;D

That's correct!  :D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 30, 2017, 10:57:05 AM
Great headline from this morning's newspaper:

Trump Presidency a Boon to Toilets.

 :laugh:

It seems that all the marches and protests have increased the demand for portable toilets.

 :D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 30, 2017, 02:17:26 PM
^^^^^^

I'm sure this is true because I just read about our Resist March on June 11th.
Los Angeles is having the march "instead of the actual Pride Parade", though
the march is being sponsored by the same organizations and they said it is
costing MORE than the parade does. (And a lot is for toilets!)

Under the Q&A info for the march:

Q: The Resist march will cost six times as much as the Pride Parade? Why?

A:  The march route is three times as long as the usual parade route to ensure we have enough space for everyone to participate. We will need to provide more portable toilets and the clean-up costs will be higher. We’re also bringing in multiple stages, video screens and audio speakers for the rally at the end of the parade to ensure everyone can see and hear the inspirational and educational messages shared.

Q: Will there be bathrooms available?

A.:  Yes. We will have a lot of portable toilets throughout the designated march route.


(https://www.lapride.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Resist-March-300x212.png)

Sunday, June 11th  |  8am

On Sunday, June 11th we will march from Hollywood, where LA Pride was born in 1970 to West Hollywood, where LA Pride grew up. Instead of a parade celebrating our past progress, we are requesting that our entire community and its allies march to ensure our collective futures. Our march will be taking place in solidarity with and on the same day as the National Equality March for Unity and Pride in Washington DC.  On Sunday, June 11th our unique, diverse, inter-sectional voices will come together in one harmonized voice.

We want you to join us.


__________

It is starting in Hollywood because that's where the first sanctioned Pride Parade in the U.S. took place in 1970.
There is now a plaque commemorating that event on the corner of McCadden and Hollywood Blvd.

(http://tonyortega.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Christie.Hotel_.7.jpg)



Not too long ago online I found what is said to be the only known footage of this parade on Hollywood Blvd.
in 1970. There's about six minutes of footage. In it, you can see some buildings like a coffee shop called The
Gold Cup where gay people used to hang out. The famous Egyptian Theatre's blade sign is lit up, but I couldn't
tell what film was being shown.  You can see the New-View Theatre which is playing "The Boys in the Band" and
"The Gay Deceivers." There's also some businesses like the Bi-Rite Drugstore (LOL) and Regal Shoes. Also, the
Supply Sergeant, which is still there. There's a brief view of the Pickwick Bookstore, a Hollywood staple for decades
until bookstore went out of favor. The film is rather blurry, but very interesting.  Footage begins at 1:20.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_UZB_xxHDc

Article:
http://laist.com/2016/06/13/weho_pride_history.php

Anyone else in a city having a Resist March?  In several places, like Los Angeles, the march
is co-inciding with their Pride Weekends. Other cities have their's on different weekends. They
all usually had them on the anniversary of Stonewall, or the last weekend of June, but over the
years different places have changed the weekend dates so that others might attend different cities
and those celebrations as well as their own.

I hope supporters of all kinds come out to join the marches as people did to support the Women's
march.

I can't believe this will be starting in Hollywood and marching 3.5 miles to West Hollywood! 
Very exciting.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 30, 2017, 02:19:52 PM

P.S.:  Anyone got a good idea for a SIGN!  Let me know!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 30, 2017, 03:35:49 PM
  Trump Administration Crumbling: White House Communications Director Resigns

By Polina Tikhonova on May 30, 2017


The administration of President Donald Trump is crumbling amid the raging Russia probe, as Mike Dubke has now resigned from the post of communications director. His departure gives Press Secretary Sean Spicer more responsibilities in the White House.

Trump has reportedly been considering a shakeup of the White House to shut down the growing number of scandals revolving around his administration.

In what comes as an apparent continuation of the drama in the Trump administration against the backdrop of the FBI investigation into alleged links to Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election, Mr. Dubke announced his resignation in a meeting with the President on May 18.

While his resignation comes as somewhat of a surprise, the veteran GOP strategist’s resignation from one of the most prominent positions in the Trump administration could set precedent for other White House officials to leave too. As Trump’s potential impeachment offenses continue to mount, if more Republicans turn their back on Trump, it could move America closer to seeing him impeached.

The reasons for Mr. Dubke’s resignation are, however, “personal,” the former communications director said himself in an interview with POLITICO after the news of his resignation leaked online.

http://www.valuewalk.com/2017/05/trump-dubke-resign-russia-probe/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 30, 2017, 05:03:22 PM
Olivia Newton-John Reveals Breast Cancer Diagnosis


Olivia Newton-John announced her breast cancer diagnosis Tuesday in a Facebook post.

The 68-year-old singer postponed her nationwide tour in May due to what she believed was merely back pain but now understands is a cancer relapse. Newton-John was diagnosed with breast cancer in 1992. As part of her treatment, she underwent a partial mastectomy, chemotherapy and breast reconstruction. The “Grease” actress has been a health advocate and champion for cancer survivors ever since.

“I decided on my direction of therapies after consultation with my doctors and natural therapists and the medical team at my Olivia Newton-John Cancer Wellness and Research Centre in Melbourne, Australia,” Newton-John said in her post.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/olivia-newton-john-diagnosed-with-breast-cancer_us_592db4a9e4b0c0608e8bc1ca
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on May 30, 2017, 06:40:19 PM
China Forces Emirates Crews To Remove Taiwanese Flags From Uniforms

Well here’s something that’s sure to be controversial. One of the things that I love about flying with Emirates is how international their cabin crews are. At the beginning of every flight the purser announces how many countries the crew comes from and how many languages they speak, and on an A380 both of those numbers are typically somewhere between 10 and 25.

One of the ways you can identify where a crew member is from is by the pin on their uniform. I think this is a cool feature, and sometimes it turns into a fun conversation starter or guessing game (I’m pretty good with flags, but I’ve had at least a dozen of the flight attendant pins stump me over the years).

That brings me to the point of this post. Up until now Emirates has let cabin crew from Taiwan wear Taiwanese pins, rather than Chinese pins. This will be changing effective immediately. The Chinese government has ordered Emirates employees to remove the Taiwanese pins from their uniforms, under the “One China” policy.


http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/05/30/emirates-crews-taiwan-flag/ (http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/05/30/emirates-crews-taiwan-flag/)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 01, 2017, 07:31:04 AM
Can someone tell me how to use covefe in a sentence? Am I even spelling it correctly?  :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 01, 2017, 10:12:17 AM

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HtzsN3DNI-8/WNr9VQ7hWkI/AAAAAAAAUQU/VVRhEGGfgP8-IVGQJrXYeuVEw_zkHXLZwCJoC/w384-h590-p/Trump_AmericanHorrorStory_Shirt.jpg)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 01, 2017, 10:24:01 AM

Every day Trump demeans the office of the presidency,
in ways both large and small...insidious ways...he just
demeans all human decency.......when...will...it...stop.

(https://i2.wp.com/bestanimations.com/HomeOffice/Clocks/clock-animated-gif-18.gif)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on June 01, 2017, 03:02:45 PM
Can someone tell me how to use covefe in a sentence? Am I even spelling it correctly?  :laugh:

I think it's Covfefe.

And it's the name of his sled. ;)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on June 01, 2017, 04:01:54 PM
What sled?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on June 01, 2017, 04:06:34 PM
As in Citizen Kane. :D

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on June 01, 2017, 04:27:18 PM
Oh OK. A very obtuse reference.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on June 01, 2017, 04:29:40 PM
Yep!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 01, 2017, 05:27:59 PM
I'm convinced dt pulled out of the Paris climate deal just to stick it to the left.  His promises that this will bring jobs to the poor saps who still believe him is both funny for me, and hugely sad for them.

Now we stand with Syria and Nicaragua – make America great again...by following the lead of two loser states.
 
Trump: 'I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris'
He knows that we don’t have to pay Paris to clean up their environment, right?  It’s just where the summit was held?  He knows that,right?  Oh, covfefe!

list of companies that have urged Trump not to abandon the Paris agreement:

•   Facebook
•   Google
•   Microsoft
•   The Gap
•   Exxon Mobil
•   ConocoPhillips
•   National Grid
•   Apple
•   Adobe
•   Danfoss
•   Levi Strauss & Co.
•   Mars Incorporated
•   Hewlett Packard Enterprise
•   Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts
•   Morgan Stanley
•   Unilever
•   Tiffany & Co
•   Dignity Health
•   Ingersoll Rand
•   Intel Corporation
•   PG&E Corporation
•   Johnson Controls
•   Royal DSM
•   The Hartford
•   Royal DSM
•   Salesforce
•   Schneider Electric
•   VF Corporation
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 01, 2017, 05:31:04 PM
Pittsburgh mayor hits back after Trump invokes city in climate speech

...Peduto said Pittsburgh will continue to honor the agreement, even though Trump has chosen not to: "As the Mayor of Pittsburgh, I can assure you that we will follow the guidelines of the Paris Agreement for our people, our economy & future."


http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/01/politics/pittsburgh-mayor-donald-trump/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/01/politics/pittsburgh-mayor-donald-trump/index.html)


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on June 01, 2017, 06:25:05 PM
I'm convinced dt pulled out of the Paris climate deal just to stick it to the left.  His promises that this will bring jobs to the poor saps who still believe him is both funny for me, and hugely sad for them.

Now we stand with Syria and Nicaragua - make America great again...by following the lead of two loser states.
 
(...)

Nicaragua didn't sign on to the Paris Deal because it wasn't stringent enough.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 01, 2017, 07:04:41 PM
68 mayors adopt Paris climate accord after U.S. pulls out

BY ALISSA WALKER


The 68 mayors who previously pledged to ignore President Donald Trump’s climate change policies have upped their commitment after he announced his intent to withdraw the U.S. from the Paris climate accord: At least 68 cities are adopting the historic agreement themselves.

The group of mayors, who represent more than 36 million Americans and some of the largest U.S. cities, outlined a plan to align with the other 194 nations that adopted the accord:

We will continue to lead. We are increasing investments in renewable energy and energy efficiency. We will buy and create more demand for electric cars and trucks. We will increase our efforts to cut greenhouse gas emissions, create a clean energy economy, and stand for environmental justice. And if the President wants to break the promises made to our allies enshrined in the historic Paris Agreement, we’ll build and strengthen relationships around the world to protect the planet from devastating climate risks.


https://www.curbed.com/2017/6/1/15726376/paris-accord-climate-change-mayors-trump
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 01, 2017, 07:51:27 PM
list of companies that have urged Trump not to abandon the Paris agreement:

•   Levi Strauss & Co.
•   Mars Incorporated
•   Tiffany & Co

Really?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on June 01, 2017, 08:58:09 PM
Oh OK. A very obtuse reference.

I got it right a way, but then I'm a film buff.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 02, 2017, 11:46:45 AM
^^^

It was actually going around the internet and twitter as a meme yesterday.

Example:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBKAhFzUMAABV1J.jpg)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 02, 2017, 11:49:46 AM

Or this one:

(https://lgbtqnation-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/2017/05/superdelux-tweet-500x464.jpg)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 02, 2017, 11:50:29 AM

Trump's supporters are so assinine (purposely spelled that way) that they're now online commenting on news stories and
the like about how he is such a genius, how he's manipulating the media by making up words, or that it really is a secret
code word to his supporters and on and on.

Then I read a story about Mark Wahlberg telling Hollywood they should shut up about politics and that the
average people don't care about celebrities and their politics.  And I'm like, "Really, Mark?"  You don't have
a clue. These "average" people you're talking about were blinded by and VOTED for the asshole celebrity
with a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. His campaign rallies were like scenes from a World Wrestling
Federation cage match.  Trump is and has always been about celebrity. And the "average folk" don't care
about it? Who's out of touch, Mark?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 03, 2017, 09:34:47 AM
P.S.:  Anyone got a good idea for a SIGN!  Let me know!

No one?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 03, 2017, 12:55:06 PM
Globe heaps scorn on Trump for Paris exit

BY DEVIN HENRY - 06/03/17 01:42 PM EDT

President Trump's decision to pull the United States out of the Paris climate agreement this week sent shockwaves through global diplomacy.

Half a dozen world leaders lambasted the Thursday announcement, which Trump said was meant to protect American businesses from the “unfair” terms of the climate accord negotiated in 2015.

Former diplomats and experts warned that the U.S.'s disengagement on climate could be a defining moment for a Trump administration that is focused more on an "America First" agenda than engaging with international allies.

“I really think that is the major consequence of today: it’s not about the Paris agreement,” said Christiana Figueres, the former head of the United Nation’s climate change mission.

“I think the real problem today and the real sadness is the absolute death blow to the international credibly of the current U.S. leadership. … The blow to the international political credibility of the United States really cannot be underestimated.”


http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/336176-globe-heaps-scorn-on-trump-for-paris-exit
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on June 03, 2017, 12:56:13 PM
It makes him the center of attention. That's all he wants or cares about.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 03, 2017, 01:19:25 PM
Crowds rally at March for Truth in D.C. and dozens of cities

By Perry Stein and Lori Aratani June 3 at 2:29 PM

More than a thousand people gathered near the Washington Monument Saturday to rally at the March for Truth, calling for an independent investigation into alleged collusion between Russia and President Trump’s 2016 campaign.

Organizers also used the occasion to celebrate the “resistance” movement against the Trump administration, and implored the crowd to stay involved for the long haul.

“We gotta keep up the fight, that’s all there is to it,” said Jon Lovett, a former President Obama speechwriter and popular podcast host, who spoke at the D.C. rally.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/2017/06/03/2d75a63a-4882-11e7-bcde-624ad94170ab_story.html?utm_term=.7cdbe4ec409e
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on June 03, 2017, 03:13:57 PM
Meanwhile the Mango Mussolini's "Pittsburgh not Paris" rally was a total flop.  Plus it was ironically held at Lafayette square.

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w197/oilgun/truth%20rally%20versus%20Trump%20rally_zpsh7ehhfgu.png)

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/06/03/trumps-pittsburgh-paris-march-massive-flop-compared-nationwide-march-truth.html

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 03, 2017, 04:59:14 PM
Meanwhile the Mango Mussolini's "Pittsburgh not Paris" rally was a total flop.  Plus it was ironically held at Lafayette square.

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w197/oilgun/truth%20rally%20versus%20Trump%20rally_zpsh7ehhfgu.png)

https://www.google.ca/#safe=off&q=lafayette+square+washington

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Thanks Gil, I had to go find the story for that.


Trump’s ‘Pittsburgh, Not Paris’ Rally A Massive Flop Compared To Nationwide ‘March For Truth’

By Sean Colarossi on Sat, Jun 3rd, 2017

It's clear where the political energy is in this country right now, and it's not with Donald Trump.

Competing events on Saturday provided a stark contrast between just how energized Donald Trump’s critics are compared to his supporters – the minority that exists, at least.

While thousands of Americans mobilized to demand a fair, independent investigation into the president’s ties to Russia in the ‘March for Truth’, a ‘Pittsburgh, Not Paris’ pro-Trump march meant to show support for the president’s stance on environmental issues turned out to be a total flop.

This president may have spent his time as a presidential candidate bragging about crowd sizes, but since taking office, the largest crowds he has been able to draw are those who oppose his disastrous policy agenda and corrupt administration.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/06/03/trumps-pittsburgh-paris-march-massive-flop-compared-nationwide-march-truth.html
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on June 03, 2017, 05:40:38 PM
^^^My apologies for posting the wrong link. I fixed it.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on June 04, 2017, 02:04:54 AM
Another terrorist attack in London last night. :(

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2017/jun/03/london-bridge-closed-after-serious-police-incident-live (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2017/jun/03/london-bridge-closed-after-serious-police-incident-live)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 04, 2017, 08:26:51 AM
Terrible...This was on BBC, I didn't see the press conference: PM Theresa May condemns the "single evil ideology of Islamist extremism," saying "enough is enough"

I hope she means it...

And this is so sad, so insane that it's even necessary, but in the midst of all the hate, understanding of the unimaginable:

The families of two of the victims killed in the Manchester bombing have reached out to those affected by last night's attack.

The parents of teenage couple Chloe Rutherford and Liam Curry said it had been their "worst nightmare" losing their children and thanked all those who helped them during this difficult time.

They added: "We would at this point also like to reach out to those affected by the London terror attack, sending our love and condolences to those who have lost loved ones. Our hearts are aching for your loss.

"May those injured have a speedy recovery."

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-40147014 (http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-40147014)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 04, 2017, 08:43:21 AM
He is an asshole...sorry to be redundant.

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
@realDonaldTrump
 Follow

At least 7 dead and 48 wounded in terror attack and Mayor of London says there is "no reason to be alarmed!"



Spokesperson for Sadiq Khan said:
“The Mayor is busy working with the police, emergency services and the government to coordinate the response to this horrific and cowardly terrorist attack and provide leadership and reassurance to Londoners and visitor to our city.  He has more important things to do than respond to Donald Trump’s ill-informed tweet that deliberately takes out of context his remarks urging Londoners not to be alarmed when they saw more police – including armed officers – on our streets.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 04, 2017, 08:50:40 AM
Bobby Friedman‏Verified account @BobbyFriedman  5h5 hours ago

 Something lovely and oddly reassuring about @Number10cat Larry padding back inside with the PM after her speech


https://twitter.com/BobbyFriedman (https://twitter.com/BobbyFriedman)



Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 04, 2017, 11:09:39 AM
carl reiner‏
Verified account @carlreiner  May 31

 Covfefe, besides meaning 'Soviet' in Russian also stands for:
"Cant Overestimate,Virtuous Fool's Empathy For Escapism.
Bad tweet, ShAME!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 04, 2017, 11:13:17 AM
^^^

I had to look up "Larry."  Larry the Cat!  The "Chief Mouser."

Before I continue, I hadn't heard about this until I read it here. So awful.
In a week it'll be one year since Orlando and so many have occurred since.
___

I can't believe Trump twittered out such a provocative uninformed statement
like that, instead of a statement of support, an offer of help, or at least something
sensible.

...oh, who am I kidding, I can believe it without hesitation, I am just so weary of our
childish leader always feeling aggrieved and, as Fritz noted, he's got some real addiction
for attention, in any form. "That's all he wants or cares about."

Do you Brits, Canadians and Aussies (and New Zealanders, etc.) who post here know that most of the
U.S. is laughing at this imbecile as much as you are and are just as alarmed...and whatever other
negative words you're feeling?

Those who support him have always been around 30% at the core and sometimes up to 40%.
The election statistics point out that a sizeable amount still voted for him even though they didn't
like him and thought he'd be a terrible President. The Republicans somehow got their voters to
believe that Hillary was just as bad, and they've been working at that for 25 years. With help
from the Russians the last go 'round.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 04, 2017, 11:37:04 AM

I find that Larry the Cat has his own Twitter account.

Larry the Cat
@ Number10cat
Downing Street, Westminster
The Chief Mouser to the Cabinet Office. I'm a 12 year old tabby, in position longer
than the leaders of any of the main UK political parties. Unofficial.

(http://cdn3-www.cattime.com/assets/uploads/2016/07/larry-the-cat-britain-mouser-10-downing-street-1.jpg)


And, not only that, his tweets are entirely more informed
and sensible than the orange beast's.

Examples:

Larry the Cat:
The gun homicide rate in England is about one for every 1 million people - 160 times less than the US.

Then Donald Trump answered a tweet (The President answered a tweet from a cat. Think about that.)

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Do you notice we are not having a gun debate right now? That's because they used knives and a truck!
4:43 AM - 4 Jun 2017

Larry replied:

Larry the Cat:
Do you know why they used knives and a truck? Because the UK settled its gun debate decades ago,
saving countless lives. Educate yourself.

(You go, Larry!)

And a Brit answered Trump with this tweet:

Ian Boothby
@IanBoothby
Replying to @realDonaldTrump
What's the difference between a knife and one of your Tweets?  Knives have an actual point.

(LOL! because it's true.)

Larry the Cat:
Stop for a moment and consider the likely fatality rate if the terrorists had had access to automatic weapons.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 04, 2017, 11:41:37 AM
I would rather have Larry the Cat for President,
instead of what we have now-Larry the Cable Guy.

(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2016/03/30/Larry_the_cat_3603098b-large_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpJliwavx4coWFCaEkEsb3kvxIt-lGGWCWqwLa_RXJU8.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 04, 2017, 11:45:36 AM
I would rather have Larry the Cat for President,
instead of what we have now-Larry the Cable Guy.

Sorry...I don't mean to disparage Larry the Cable Guy.
Larry the C.G. probably does the job he knows very well.
He is also probably smart enough to know that he doesn't
have the qualifications to be in political office. As George
Will noted in his astutely written commentary: "President
Trump doesn't know what it is to know something."



Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 04, 2017, 11:59:56 AM
Larry the CG ("actor") is worth about $30m...

GOod research on Larry the cat.  He has very good insight, maybe he could replace Spicey...but no, cats don't take shit from anybody...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 04, 2017, 12:09:53 PM
Meanwhile the Mango Mussolini's "Pittsburgh not Paris" rally was a total flop.  Plus it was ironically held at Lafayette square.

I am sure the participants were unaware of the irony of that!

If I were in Pittsburgh I would've gone there with a sign that said:

Paris AND Pittsburgh
STRONGER TOGETHER.

Trump and his core supporters, these America Firsters, these people who feel so aggrieved about everything...all
just seem to look at the world and feel everyone else has something they do not and that they should have instead.
They feel the government needs to restore all of whatever that is back to them. Take it back from immigrants, or
LGBT people, anyone who uses Government services, that they could actually use themselves if they looked into it.
Take it back from other countries. Because everyone else has something that belongs to them, or was taken from
them, and they want it back.

It reminds me of the lyrics of the song "One Tin Soldier."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg84L84uop8

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 04, 2017, 12:14:16 PM
Larry the CG ("actor") is worth about $30m...

Okay, wow, way more than Trump!   8)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 04, 2017, 12:19:25 PM
I would rather have Larry the Cat for President.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9sDk_vXkAE-Ng-.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 04, 2017, 12:34:44 PM
CJs Goldfish is another good twitter to follow - Gail was the goldfish on CJ's desk on The West Wing
https://twitter.com/CJsGoldfish?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor (https://twitter.com/CJsGoldfish?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1232286038/gail.jpg)


 Gail The Fish Retweeted
 b3ta‏ @b3ta  Jun 3

 We've been staring at this observation for about 15 minutes.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/870960009517182978/eg6q_YLh?format=jpg&name=600x314)




Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on June 04, 2017, 03:34:52 PM
^^^

I had to look up "Larry."  Larry the Cat!  The "Chief Mouser."

Before I continue, I hadn't heard about this until I read it here. So awful.
In a week it'll be one year since Orlando and so many have occurred since.
___

I can't believe Trump twittered out such a provocative uninformed statement
like that, instead of a statement of support, an offer of help, or at least something
sensible.

...oh, who am I kidding, I can believe it without hesitation, I am just so weary of our
childish leader always feeling aggrieved and, as Fritz noted, he's got some real addiction
for attention, in any form. "That's all he wants or cares about."

Do you Brits, Canadians and Aussies (and New Zealanders, etc.) who post here know that most of the
U.S. is laughing at this imbecile as much as you are and are just as alarmed...and whatever other
negative words you're feeling?

Those who support him have always been around 30% at the core and sometimes up to 40%.
The election statistics point out that a sizeable amount still voted for him even though they didn't
like him and thought he'd be a terrible President. The Republicans somehow got their voters to
believe that Hillary was just as bad, and they've been working at that for 25 years. With help
from the Russians the last go 'round.

We do know how right minded Americans feel, Lyle - I was going to say "Don't worry", but of course you do, and so do we.

And that Tweet makes my blood boil - so petty, ignorant and malicious.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 04, 2017, 05:47:25 PM
Larry the Cat:
The gun homicide rate in England is about one for every 1 million people - 160 times less than the US.

Then Donald Trump answered a tweet (The President answered a tweet from a cat. Think about that.)

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Do you notice we are not having a gun debate right now? That's because they used knives and a truck!
4:43 AM - 4 Jun 2017


(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder209/500x/58139209/jesus-facepalm2-jesus-facepalm-even-he-thinks-this-is-ridiculous.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 06, 2017, 06:55:50 PM
I swear to God...this is why I like animals.  One of dt's base, perhaps?
I couldn't even read the whole story, let alone watch the video that this LUNATIC put on FB.

SEBRING, Fla. (WFLA) – A Sebring woman is facing a charge of child abuse after a video was posted to social media that showed a snake biting a 1-year-old baby, after it was presented to the infant in a Tupperware container.

According to an arrest affidavit, Chartelle St. Laurent uploaded a video of the incident to Facebook.


http://wfla.com/2017/06/06/sebring-woman-allows-baby-to-be-bitten-by-snake-charged-with-child-abuse/ (http://wfla.com/2017/06/06/sebring-woman-allows-baby-to-be-bitten-by-snake-charged-with-child-abuse/)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on June 06, 2017, 07:40:37 PM
I swear to God...this is why I like animals.  One of dt's base, perhaps?
I couldn't even read the whole story, let alone watch the video that this LUNATIC put on FB.

SEBRING, Fla. (WFLA) – A Sebring woman is facing a charge of child abuse after a video was posted to social media that showed a snake biting a 1-year-old baby, after it was presented to the infant in a Tupperware container.

According to an arrest affidavit, Chartelle St. Laurent uploaded a video of the incident to Facebook.


http://wfla.com/2017/06/06/sebring-woman-allows-baby-to-be-bitten-by-snake-charged-with-child-abuse/ (http://wfla.com/2017/06/06/sebring-woman-allows-baby-to-be-bitten-by-snake-charged-with-child-abuse/)


That horrible excuse for a mother needs to be put in jail and the child taken away from her. I couldn't watch the video. **Shudders**
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 06, 2017, 09:40:56 PM
I swear to God...this is why I like animals.  One of dt's base, perhaps?
I couldn't even read the whole story, let alone watch the video that this LUNATIC put on FB.

SEBRING, Fla. (WFLA) – A Sebring woman is facing a charge of child abuse after a video was posted to social media that showed a snake biting a 1-year-old baby, after it was presented to the infant in a Tupperware container.

According to an arrest affidavit, Chartelle St. Laurent uploaded a video of the incident to Facebook.


http://wfla.com/2017/06/06/sebring-woman-allows-baby-to-be-bitten-by-snake-charged-with-child-abuse/ (http://wfla.com/2017/06/06/sebring-woman-allows-baby-to-be-bitten-by-snake-charged-with-child-abuse/)



OMG!  Just when you think you've heard the worst, some new asshole comes along.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on June 07, 2017, 04:07:46 AM
Disgusting.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on June 07, 2017, 01:34:00 PM
                                                 ^^
What IS wrong with these "people" ? (I use that term very loosely.)  >:(
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on June 07, 2017, 10:04:03 PM
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w197/oilgun/OBAMA-TRUDEAU-DINNER_zpso52dwwpr.jpg)

Montreal was all abuzz yesterday because Obama was in town for a speech. The above pic is of him having an intimate dinner with our PM after his talk.

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/barack-obama-justin-trudeau-grab-bite-to-eat-in-st-henri-after-speech
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 08, 2017, 11:03:40 AM
^^^

I like that worker in the other room going about his business.  Probably thinking,
"I wish they'd get out of here, I want to go home and watch Fargo."

Or something, lol!

What an odd photo to have on a restaurant wall.
The capsized truck. Or any wall, maybe, eh?

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on June 08, 2017, 04:30:14 PM
                                           ^^^^
I love the informality here in this picture. So relaxed.

If it was DT....he would be in his suit, shirt and tie. I have heard
that he even has dinner at home and all his other meals dressed this way.
 :o

 
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on June 08, 2017, 04:35:26 PM
Yeah, like the way Nixon walked on the beach at San Clemente in a suit and tie. He was just unable to relax.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 08, 2017, 05:17:56 PM
Trump, relaxed?   LOL
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on June 08, 2017, 05:34:12 PM
^^^

I like that worker in the other room going about his business.  Probably thinking,
"I wish they'd get out of here, I want to go home and watch Fargo."

Or something, lol!

What an odd photo to have on a restaurant wall.
The capsized truck. Or any wall, maybe, eh?

I hadn' t even noticed that photo, very odd indeed.
I wonder if they picked that neighbourhood because of its historical significance. During prohibition, Montreal was one of the few big cities that wasn't dry so it became North America's party town. Little Burgundy, where the restaurant is located, was teeming with (non-segregated) Jazz Clubs that featured many of the Jazz greats of the time. It's also where Oscar Peterson grew up.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 08, 2017, 06:17:38 PM
So, was  any of the testimony said today enough to mean real trouble for Trump?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on June 08, 2017, 06:30:24 PM
Probably not, as the Republicans have their heads in the sand, and are going to do NOTHING about it. Far be it from them to admit a huge mistake has been made.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 08, 2017, 06:53:55 PM
shit
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on June 08, 2017, 07:41:59 PM
Well, I was going to say their heads up their asses, which is probably more accurate.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 09, 2017, 07:24:00 AM
I'm not especially fond of James Comey, because I'm convinced he contributed to Hillary's loss (so you could say he brought some of his troubles on himself).

On the other hand, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend," so. ...

I also like Reality Winner's term for the President: The Orange Fascist.  ;D

(Who names a kid Reality Winner? That's like calling your kid April Showers.)

Well, I was going to say their heads up their asses, which is probably more accurate.

Paul Ryan certainly does.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 09, 2017, 08:42:00 AM
The other names of the Winner's children are:

Lottery
Jackpot
Debate
Eurovision
Derby
Powerball
Superbowl
Oscar
Heisman
Bread
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on June 09, 2017, 08:51:45 AM
LOL!

And Everyone'sa.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 09, 2017, 09:00:45 AM


 :D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 09, 2017, 10:01:39 AM
The other names of the Winner's children are:

Lottery
Jackpot
Debate
Eurovision
Derby
Powerball
Superbowl
Oscar
Heisman
Bread

You forgot Oscar's twin sister, Emmy.

And Tony.

And Grammy.

And Bafta.

And Marathon.

And Preakness.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 09, 2017, 12:12:27 PM

Preakness!  LOL!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 10, 2017, 08:29:04 AM
Jim Acosta‏Verified account
@Acosta
Following

Good morning. Happy Saturday. Where are the tapes?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 10, 2017, 10:05:22 AM
HazMat Response at Disneyland

A HazMat team quickly responded to up to two dozen people who reported being
struck by a large quantity of a foul smelling substance just before 9 p.m. in front
of the Sleeping Beauty Castle as crowds were gathering for the nightly fireworks
show.

A total of 17 people -- 11 adults and six children -- were struck with what was
identified as "clearly goose poop," the Anaheim police said. That's right, nearly
20 parkgoers at Disneyland on Friday night got a nasty surprise when a flock of
geese flying overhead defecated on them.

[There are a lot of very amusing headlines about this online.]
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 10, 2017, 10:12:35 AM
HazMat Response at Disneyland

A HazMat team quickly responded to up to two dozen people who reported being
struck by a large quantity of a foul smelling substance just before 9 p.m. in front
of the Sleeping Beauty Castle as crowds were gathering for the nightly fireworks
show.

A total of 17 people -- 11 adults and six children -- were struck with what was
identified as "clearly goose poop," the Anaheim police said. That's right, nearly
20 parkgoers at Disneyland on Friday night got a nasty surprise when a flock of
geese flying overhead defecated on them.

[There are a lot of very amusing headlines about this online.]

I guess I shouldn't laugh at that, but ....

OTOH, I once got bombed by some bird or other. Luckily I was wearing a cap! So I really do sympathize with those folks! (It made a mess of the cap.)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 11, 2017, 07:23:43 AM
Yes, you should laugh!  ;D

I couldn't sleep last night...I guess because I had to get up early for the RESIST march this morning!
But I got up at 5am!  I am sitting here looking out my window and at the end of the street on Santa
Monica Blvd. there's what looks like a gasoline tanker and I've been wondering for a bit why it's there
and what the heck it's doing? It's just dawned on me that it's filling up large orange barrier things with
water. (Not gasoline hopefully.) I saw these things at almost every street corner last night and knew they
were barriers. It didn't occur to me they'd have to come by and fill them up with water!  Makes sense though.

I also saw police cars roaming the streets this morning and what look like bomb detecting devices being trailed
up and down the streets. It's sad it's all come to this, but it doesn't concern me about doing anything I want to.
I also read that some of our heavyweight politicians are going to be speaking after the march, like Nancy Pelosi,
Maxine Waters and my Congressman, Adam Schiff. I wonder how much all this security is costing though! There's
a LOT of streets from Hollywood and Highland to Santa Monica Blvd. and Doheny!

Well, I best get my duds ready and my sign and everything else!  My feet problems don't want me to really go do
the 4-5 miles walk today, (my feet are resisting!) but I'm up for it anyway!  For those of you who've visited out here
for some of the Brokie gatherings, the march is going to start on Hollywood Blvd. after some opening ceremonies. It's
where the first Pride marches were held in 1970! The march will be from Hollywood and Highland, down Hollywood Blvd.
to La Brea, then south to Sunset Blvd. (I'll be ready for my close-up!) and then west to Fairfax Avenue, (a block or two
south of where Ken & Robert's party was held in 2008 at their house) then south to Santa Monica Blvd. and then west
all the way to Doheny in West Hollywood!

I'm quite excited about it!  The reports are that they have absolutely no idea how many people are going to come. When
pressed for a guess they said, that 50,000 had said they were coming on the website. (25,000 said they were going to the
L.A. Womens' March and 750,000 showed up!) So, we shall see.
 


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 11, 2017, 10:04:25 AM
yes, I'm following Larry the Cat, what of it?   ;)

Larry the Cat‏
@Number10cat
Following

I'm not saying she's nervous, but Theresa May just did this...
#ExitPoll #Election2017

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB1ToCWWsAAVq2A.jpg)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 11, 2017, 11:07:12 AM
:laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 11, 2017, 04:14:37 PM
why wouldn't he testify under oath?  Lie in front of a microphone, lie under oath - it's all the same to him...


Washington (CNN)A defiant President Donald Trump said Friday he was willing to testify under oath about his conversations with James Comey, further fueling the swirling controversy ignited by the fired FBI director's bombshell testimony before the Senate on Thursday.

"One hundred percent," Trump said when asked about his willingness to deliver sworn testimony.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/09/politics/trump-news-conference/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/09/politics/trump-news-conference/index.html)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on June 11, 2017, 09:01:25 PM
He'll make as little sense as he does now, sworn testimony or not. Besides, he won't answer any questions with answers that will make any sense and it will all be about him.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 12, 2017, 07:30:42 AM
I'm not saying she's nervous, but Theresa May just did this...
#ExitPoll #Election2017

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB1ToCWWsAAVq2A.jpg)

Has she been responsible for crop circles all along? Maybe she's actually an alien?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 12, 2017, 06:19:36 PM
9th Circuit Rules Against Trump Travel Ban

The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday ruled in part against President Trump’s so-called travel ban, upholding an injunction that prevents the administration from enforcing a suspension on travel from six mostly Muslim countries.

"We conclude that the President, in issuing the Executive Order, exceeded the scope of the authority delegated to him by Congress," the opinion said.

The ruling Monday from a unanimous three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals deals the administration another legal defeat as the Supreme Court considers a separate case on the issue.

The judges say the president violated U.S. immigration law by discriminating against people based on their nationality and that Trump failed to show their entry into the country would hurt American interests.

In a statement, Attorney General Jeff Sessions said the Justice Department disagreed with the decision, adding that the order was "well within [Trump's] lawful authority to keep the Nation safe."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/12/hawaii-urges-court-to-keep-hold-on-trump-travel-ban.html
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 12, 2017, 06:24:15 PM
Why Republicans Might Let Their Health Care Bill Fail

By MJ Lee and Lauren Fox, CNN

Donald Trump's top campaign promise of repealing Obamacare remains unfinished as the President heads into Washington's sweltering summer months.

With the Republican Party's most pressing undertaking stuck in limbo, GOP senators and aides are beginning to wonder about one undesirable outcome: that the Senate takes a vote on a health care bill in the coming weeks

Republicans are attempting to use the so-called budget reconciliation process, which would allow them to avoid a Democratic filibuster. With only 52 Republicans in the Senate, however, there is no room for error as leaders struggle with the daunting task of finding consensus between their caucus' moderate and conservative flanks on such a deeply divisive issue.

Last week, it became clear that GOP leaders were seriously considering several moderate concessions on their health care bill, including keeping some of the Obamacare taxes and not allowing states to repeal what is known as community rating -- a key protection for people with pre-existing conditions.

The negotiations are hardly over, but the information that has trickled out from lawmakers have conservatives on and off Capitol Hill on edge and watching Majority Leader Mitch McConnell for clues.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/12/politics/senate-health-care-bill-fail-on-purpose/index.html
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 12, 2017, 06:27:14 PM
Donald Trump just held the weirdest Cabinet meeting ever

By Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large


Leave it to Donald Trump to reinvent the Cabinet meeting.

The public portion of these gatherings of all of the president's top advisers are usually staid affairs. Photographers are let in to take pictures. The president makes a very brief statement. A reporter shouts a question, unanswered. The end.

Donald Trump did something very different in his Cabinet meeting Monday.

First, he reviewed the various alleged successes of his first 143 days and made this remarkable claim: "Never has there been a president....with few exceptions...who's passed more legislation, who's done more things than I have."

Um, ok. While Trump has signed a number of executive orders and actions -- the most high profile of which, the so-called "travel ban" was, again, blocked by a court on Monday -- what he hasn't really done is pass actual legislation through Congress. The health care bill is tied up in Senate machinations. Tax reform hasn't moved an inch. Funding for the border wall hasn't happened. And so on.

(Nota bene: You can't say "never has" something happened and then say "with few exceptions." Either it's never happened or it, well, has.)

But, that wasn't even close to the weirdest part of the Cabinet meeting!

Once Trump finished touting his administration's accomplishments, he turned to several of his newly-minted Cabinet secretaries like Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue. Each of those Cabinet secretaries lavished praise on Trump, which he accepted without comment but with a broad smile.  At first, I thought Trump was just going to have the new members of the Cabinet spend a few minutes praising him. NOPE! It soon became clear that Trump planned to have every Cabinet member speak. And when I say "speak" what I really mean is "praise Trump for his accomplishments, his foresight, his just being awesome."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/12/politics/donald-trump-cabinet-meeting/index.html
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on June 12, 2017, 06:35:57 PM
He wanted to make Kim Jong-Eun jealous.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 13, 2017, 04:18:53 PM

The Resist March in Los Angeles/West Hollywood was a success this weekend!
It was such a lovely empowering day. It's so nice to gather and talk to so many
different kinds of people.

This link is the entire two hour program at the end of the march that took place on
Santa Monica Blvd. and Almont, which is near Doheny Dr,

Livestream from LA PRIDE in West Hollywood and #ResistMarch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=555-2HChLCQ


0:00 People arriving at the end of the march at Almont and SMB.
1:20 Opening remarks
2:30 HRC and Pride remarks and presentations
3:30 crowd video showing signs and people etc. interspersed with some video remarks by various people
12:20 similar to 1:20
16:30 Trans Chorus of Los Angeles and Gay Men's Chorus of Los Angeles
-- (Song 1: ?)
-- (Song 2: Age of Aquarius/Let the Sunshine In)
-- (Song 3: ?)
29:40 video remarks
30:33 Margaret Cho (host)
37:09 WeHo Mayor John Heilman (I booed him.)
-- (He introduces Sheila Kuehl, Jeff Prang, John Duran, Lauren Meister, Lindsay Horvath
--  and John D'Amico, some of whom speak later)
42:50 Lauren Meister (WeHo City Councilwoman)
44:03 John D'Amico (WeHo City Councilman)
44:52 Lindsay Horvath (WeHo City Councilwoman)
46:03 Jussie Smollett (from Empire and Alien Covenant)
49:00 Jussie introduces Adam Schiff, Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi
51:36 Congressman Adam Schiff (District 28)
54:45 Congresswoman Maxine Waters
58:30 Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi
-- (1:00:15 / During remarks she introduces Congresspersons Mark Takano, Nanette Barragan and Judy Chu)
1:06:07 Brian Pendleton (Resist March Organizer)
1:06:45 HRC President Chad Griffin
1:11:52 John Duran (WeHo City Councilman)
1:17:41 Margaret Cho (host)
1:18;27 Eureka and Morgan McMichaels (From Rupaul's Drag Race)
1:22:08 Bamby Salcedo
1:27:43 Sue Freitag (El Camino drama teacher) and student Sarah Slaughter and her Mom
1:31:45 Chris Rock 
1:32:45 Patrice Colors and Black Lives Matter members (Co-Founder)
1:34:40 Christopher Jackson, Black Lives Matter member
1:36:52 America Ferrara
1:43:40 Jose Guevara (Dreamer)
1:47:02 Phil Wilson (Black Aids Institute) with Darrell Stevens and Vanessa Williams (not that one)
1:51:16 Sue Dunlap (Planned Parenthood LA)
1:53:45 Adam Lambert
1:59:16  Gay Men's Chorus of Los Angeles, Trans Chorus of Los Angeles and the West Coast Singers
-- (Song: This Land is My Land)
2:02:02 Brian Pendleton and Alexei Romanov (activist)
2:04:35 Go to the Festival


I couldn't find a  video of the Opening Ceremonies in Hollywood. This is all I could locate, a short video of some of the speakers,
including Mayor Eric Garcetti and Ru Paul.  Cheyenne Jackson sang the national anthem, but not on this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpU8seA4zT8

Crowd in Hollywood listening to Ru Paul:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OPbX7mRuxA


If you care to see me and my friend Ken, here's a youtube video I found. For maximum effect, start at 1:55 and then see us walk by at around 4:00.
We are wearing army green t-shirts that say REIST MARCH 06-11-17 and carrying signs.  Also wearing hats and tan shorts/slacks. This is on a section
of Sunset Blvd. between La Brea and Fairfax.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKKrLd80mDQ

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on June 13, 2017, 04:35:33 PM
Yay!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 13, 2017, 04:38:16 PM
If you care to see me and my friend Ken, here's a youtube video I found. For maximum effect, start at 1:55 and then see us walk by at around 4:00.  We are wearing army green t-shirts that say REIST MARCH 06-11-17 and carrying signs.  Also wearing hats and tan shorts/slacks. This is on a section
of Sunset Blvd. between La Brea and Fairfax.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKKrLd80mDQ


Cool vids, Lyle!  Thanks for posting!  I found you in the video above.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on June 13, 2017, 06:20:30 PM
Geaux Lyle!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 13, 2017, 06:21:37 PM
Trump knocks House health care bill as too harsh

By BURGESS EVERETT , JENNIFER HABERKORN and JOSH DAWSEY 06/13/2017

President Donald Trump directed Senate Republicans to pass a generous health care bill at a meeting with more than a dozen GOP senators on Tuesday, arguing that the austere House health care bill is difficult to defend, according to people familiar with the meeting.

The president also said Republicans risk getting savaged in the 2018 midterms if they fail to repeal Obamacare after a seven-year campaign against the law.

But he made clear that the Senate needs to pass a bill that Republicans are able to more easily defend and is not viewed as an attack on Americans from low-income households, as the House bill has been portrayed by critics, the sources said. He also advocated more robust tax credits for people who buy insurance on the individual market, a move that would increase the bill’s cost.

Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio), who is pushing the Senate to slow the repeal of Medicaid expansion, indicated Trump is concerned about the people who are enrolled in the program for low-income Americans.

“He talked about the need to take care of people,” Portman said of the president.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/13/trump-urge-gop-senate-repeal-obamacare-239504
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on June 13, 2017, 06:23:53 PM
Only if he gets all the credit.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10209846536067317&set=p.10209846536067317&type=3&theater

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 13, 2017, 06:35:46 PM
Trump blocked Stephen King on Twitter — but J.K. Rowling came to the rescue

By Caitlin Gibson June 13


It doesn’t take much to provoke President Trump into blocking a follower on Twitter — anything from an insult to an unflattering GIF to a mild “covfefe” joke seems enough to do the trick.

So it perhaps shouldn’t come as a surprise that best-selling author Stephen King was abruptly added to the #BlockedByTrump list Tuesday. The horror fiction maestro has been one of Trump’s most consistent and creative Twitter critics since well before the November election: “A Trump presidency scares me more than anything else,” he told Ron Charles, editor of The Washington Post’s Book World, during a Facebook Live interview in September. “I’m terrified that he’ll become president.”

Trump, of course, did exactly that — and King continued to offer outspoken condemnation (and sometimes, outright mockery) in response to Trump’s Twitter missives. That is, until Tuesday, when King announced that he had apparently been blocked from viewing the president’s tweets:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2017/06/13/trump-blocked-stephen-king-on-twitter-but-j-k-rowling-came-to-the-rescue/?utm_term=.cc0891ae1d98
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on June 13, 2017, 06:43:38 PM
Poor little buttercup.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on June 13, 2017, 07:57:36 PM
                                                 ^^^^
I bet Donald is really pissed off that he hasn't got the name of "King" but instead has the comical name of "Trump" !!

Imagine people would be able to say "Here comes the King" . Oh WoW!! Wouldn't that boost his flagging ego !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


(Just a thought!  :">)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 13, 2017, 08:09:27 PM
                                                 ^^^^
I bet Donald is really pissed off that he hasn't got the name of "King" but instead has the comical name of "Trump" !!

Imagine people would be able to say "Here comes the King" . Oh WoW!! Wouldn't that boost his flagging ego !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


(Just a thought!  :">)

I understand the Public Theater's Shakespeare in the Park in New York is putting on a "Julius Caesar" with a Caesar who looks like Trump and has a wife with a Slavic accent.

And we all know what happened to Julius Caesar. ...  ::)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 14, 2017, 12:06:42 PM

Cool vids, Lyle!  Thanks for posting!  I found you in the video above.

I've been discovered!   :)

Someone asked me why there were a lot of people interspersed in the march carrying large
purple balloons.  Those represented each one of the people lost in the Pulse Nightclub tragedy
in Orlando one year previous. They were all together at the beginning of the march, then took
places throughout as it began. And they were all carried by high school students who had come
out at their high schools, too!

(http://imageslogotv-a.akamaihd.net/uri/mgid:ao:image:logotv.com:237643?quality=0.8&format=jpg&width=980&height=551)

This is a photo on Hollywood Blvd. showing half, less than half, of the balloon carriers. (Writing
"less than half" -- that just made me wince.) The photo is facing east, the stage for the opening was
behind the photographer. The photo has condensed the actual distance, over two blocks in it. Hiding
in that photo is the Chinese Theatre, Dolby Theatre (Oscars), the wax museum and Hollywood &
Highland center.

Trump's star on the walk of fame by the Hollywood & Highland center was plastered with resist notes to him.

That rectangular frame at the bottom center was one of several video screens set up for people
to enjoy the opening speakers and presentation. My friend Ken and I were right beside that one
pictured. On the left. There was a bus bench there and I wanted to sit down before marching as
my feet aren't what they used to be!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 14, 2017, 12:20:37 PM

Of course, the London apartment building fire is chilling. The photos of an entire
26 (was it?) story building engulfed in flames is pretty, I'll use the word again:
chilling. I read that people were told to remain in place. People in the WTC towers
were told that, too. I suppose there's some reason to fear a stampede of people,
but if I'm ever in any building that I know to be on fire, I am leaving. I hope none
of our Brit friends on the forum are affected by this unfortunate tragedy. I'm also
grateful it isn't terror related.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on June 14, 2017, 01:49:21 PM
Of course, the London apartment building fire is chilling. The photos of an entire
26 (was it?) story building engulfed in flames is pretty, I'll use the word again:
chilling. I read that people were told to remain in place. People in the WTC towers
were told that, too. I suppose there's some reason to fear a stampede of people,
but if I'm ever in any building that I know to be on fire, I am leaving. I hope none
of our Brit friends on the forum are affected by this unfortunate tragedy. I'm also
grateful it isn't terror related.

So horrific! One guy was being interviewed and he said he would be dead if he had followed the instructions to stay inside.  Luckily he was still awake when the fire started, so he was able to escape in time from the seventh floor with his young daughter and girlfriend.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 14, 2017, 04:50:16 PM
According to this evening's NBC network news, the building in London had no sprinklers and only one staircase.

Here in Philadelphia in 1991 we had a fire in a high-rise business building. Three firefighters died. The city changed its ordinances to require sprinklers in all high-rises. We have them in my building.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 14, 2017, 06:18:03 PM
I can't believe that people were told not to leave.....or that the building had no sprinkler system.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 14, 2017, 09:12:11 PM
happy birthday donald

Trump Under Federal Criminal Investigation for Obstruction of Justice

http://www.npr.org/2017/06/14/532985377/report-trump-under-investigation (http://www.npr.org/2017/06/14/532985377/report-trump-under-investigation-for-possible-obstruction-of-justice)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on June 15, 2017, 02:48:12 PM
Such an appropriate present.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on June 15, 2017, 03:39:24 PM
Just heard on the News....that it's going to take 2-3 years to find out the cause of the
Tower Block fire in London. Are they waiting long enough for the sting to be taken out of the tail and for it to stop smarting ?? Bet if it was a Government Building that had gone up in flames with all the Ministers stuck inside....we would know the cause within a week.
 >:(
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 16, 2017, 10:43:59 AM

2-3 years?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on June 16, 2017, 01:51:03 PM
2-3 years?

I kid you not.  :(
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 16, 2017, 05:18:45 PM
pathetic excuse for a human being...

Judge finds Michelle Carter guilty of manslaughter in texting suicide case

(CNN)In a case that hinged largely on a teenage couple's intimate text messages, Michelle Carter was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter Friday in the 2014 death of her boyfriend, who poisoned himself by inhaling carbon monoxide in his pickup truck, a Massachusetts judge ruled.

Carter's own words -- preserved in hundreds of text messages presented as evidence over six days of testimony -- helped seal her conviction in the death of 18-year-old Conrad Roy III, Bristol County Juvenile Court Judge Lawrence Moniz said during a 15-minute explanation of his rationale.

"She admits in ... texts that she did nothing: She did not call the police or Mr. Roy's family" after hearing his last breaths during a phone call, Moniz said. "And, finally, she did not issue a simple additional instruction: Get out of the truck."

Carter, 20, cried silently as Moniz spoke. She stood to receive the ruling, which could set legal precedent for whether it's a crime to tell someone to commit suicide.



Roy was sitting in his truck in the parking lot of a store in July 2014 as he took his own life.

After he exited the truck, Carter told him to "get back in", Mr Flynn said at the trial in juvenile court.

Carter, who did not call authorities or Roy's parents as he died, wanted the sympathy and attention that came with being the "grieving girlfriend", Flynn said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-07/michelle-carter-on-trial-over-texting-suicide/8597756 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-07/michelle-carter-on-trial-over-texting-suicide/8597756)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on June 16, 2017, 09:43:39 PM
pathetic excuse for a human being...

Judge finds Michelle Carter guilty of manslaughter in texting suicide case

(CNN)In a case that hinged largely on a teenage couple's intimate text messages, Michelle Carter was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter Friday in the 2014 death of her boyfriend, who poisoned himself by inhaling carbon monoxide in his pickup truck, a Massachusetts judge ruled.

Carter's own words -- preserved in hundreds of text messages presented as evidence over six days of testimony -- helped seal her conviction in the death of 18-year-old Conrad Roy III, Bristol County Juvenile Court Judge Lawrence Moniz said during a 15-minute explanation of his rationale.

"She admits in ... texts that she did nothing: She did not call the police or Mr. Roy's family" after hearing his last breaths during a phone call, Moniz said. "And, finally, she did not issue a simple additional instruction: Get out of the truck."

Carter, 20, cried silently as Moniz spoke. She stood to receive the ruling, which could set legal precedent for whether it's a crime to tell someone to commit suicide.



Roy was sitting in his truck in the parking lot of a store in July 2014 as he took his own life.

After he exited the truck, Carter told him to "get back in", Mr Flynn said at the trial in juvenile court.

Carter, who did not call authorities or Roy's parents as he died, wanted the sympathy and attention that came with being the "grieving girlfriend", Flynn said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-07/michelle-carter-on-trial-over-texting-suicide/8597756 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-07/michelle-carter-on-trial-over-texting-suicide/8597756)


Yes, Nancy I totally agree. I watched 48 Hours tonight, and watched some of the trial and saw some of the testimony. She showed no emotion at all during the whole trial, until the judge found her guilty.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 16, 2017, 10:32:41 PM
London Police Raise Death Toll In Tower Fire To 30

MERRIT KENNEDY


British authorities are launching a criminal investigation into the London apartment building fire — as the death toll from the blaze has nearly doubled, to 30.

The death toll is expected to rise further as rescue workers continue to search for victims – an operation that Metropolitan Police Commander Stuart Cundy described as "extremely challenging."

The upper floors of Grenfell Tower sustained significant damage, he says, and "the sad reality is that this work will take some time, stretching into many, many weeks."

Dozens are still missing. Police say 24 injured people remain at the hospital. And as NPR's Frank Langfitt in London, police are hoping that the death toll will not reach the triple digits.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/16/533233584/london-police-raise-death-toll-in-tower-fire-to-30
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on June 17, 2017, 01:35:57 AM
Every aspect of it is just horrible - and utterly traumatic for the rescue workers.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on June 17, 2017, 09:16:29 AM
Loving this story! I know Nikos in real life, he's the husband of the son of one of my best friends in high school, the one I frequently went to have Thanksgiving dinner in the past, though they've moved to North Carolina since their retirement.

Earl and I spent Thanksgiving before last with Nikos and his husband Justin, Justin's parents, sister and brother-in-law. Earl was astonished to see a family who got along so well together in love, something which he did not experience much growing up.

http://www.joemygod.com/2017/06/16/not-photoshopped-trump-melania-meet-rhode-islands-teacher-year-nikos-giannopoulus/

Quote
On Wednesday, when I met the president as Rhode Island’s State Teacher of the Year, I did not know what to expect. After a lengthy security process, we were welcomed into the Roosevelt Room where we each met Secretary of Education, Betsy DeVos. Shortly thereafter, we walked into the Oval Office. The man seated at the desk read prepared remarks from a sheet of paper and made some comments about CEOs and which states he “loved” based on electoral votes that he had secured. He did not rise from his seat to present the National Teacher of the Year with her much deserved award nor did he allow her to speak. We returned to the Roosevelt Room and one by one got a photo with him and his wife. After what amounted to a brief photo op, we were ushered out of the West Wing and back onto the streets of DC.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 17, 2017, 10:56:09 AM
I watched 48 Hours tonight

I'd considered watching that when I heard on CBS there was going to be a 48 Hours about it, but I just
thought it was on Saturday night when 48 Hours is usually on, so I didn't check.


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 17, 2017, 10:59:14 AM
Loving this story! I know Nikos in real life, he's the husband of the son of one of my best friends in high school,

http://www.joemygod.com/2017/06/16/not-photoshopped-trump-melania-meet-rhode-islands-teacher-year-nikos-giannopoulus/


Excellent Fritz! You know and have met him etc. Pretty amazing!
Nikos and this article just gave me an idea for a play, film or story.
Act 1 is a character like Nikos, gay and growing up in a family who,
quoting Nikos, "always allowed me to be myself, highlighting my best
qualities, and building up my confidence as a shield to any bigotry I may
encounter; who have accepted, celebrated, and loved me unconditionally
for my whole life. I have a chosen family of queer friends and loved ones
with whom I have formed deep and supportive relationships that will last
a lifetime and a partner who understands me better than anyone in the world."

Act 2 would be the same character growing up in the opposite situation. I won't
elaborate on that here, because you all know what I mean.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on June 17, 2017, 11:03:10 AM
That would be great!

Yeah, Thanksgiving before last Earl and I spent the afternoon with him and his husband Justin at Justin's parents place here in Virginia, along with Justin's sister and brother-in-law. They are a very impressive couple.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 17, 2017, 12:17:18 PM
 
BREAKING: Special Counsel Subpoenas Trump Bank Accounts, Phone Calls, Trump Threatens To Fire Him


Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller’s decision to personally go after Trump for possible criminal acts and obstruction of justice has marked a turning point in the Russia collusion investigation, which until recently has only focused on Russia’s meddling into the 2016 presidential election.

Now – Mueller has issued subpoenas of President Trump’s personal bank accounts, along with his phone records. Since it’s an official court order, refusal to comply can result in contempt of court charge, punishable by jail, a fine, or both.

The move is expected to put Trump’s personal finances under a microscope. So far, Trump has been the only president in recent history to refuse to divulge his tax returns. The expanding probe is likely to reveal a ton of dirt from the president’s financial past.

UPDATE: Shortly after this was announced, CNN reported that Mueller is also closely investigating Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner’s finances, in addition to other Trump associates.


http://news.groopspeak.com/breaking-special-counsel-subpoenas-trump-bank-accounts-phone-calls-trump-threatens-to-fire-him/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on June 17, 2017, 12:26:54 PM
Shit, fan.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: richchan on June 17, 2017, 03:08:44 PM
San Francisco's Cafe Flore Introduces Cannabis Cocktails
The Cafe Flore (now called simply "Flore") has been a mainstay of the Castro neighborhood for 44 years. According to the B.A.R. newspaper, a cannabis infused drink menu is now available.

"The Castro's Flore cafe is rolling out its new cannabis cocktail menu and is believed to be the first bar in San Francisco to offer beverages laced with pot...

A cannabis-laced beer, Tokeback Mountain, was introduced April 20 and has quickly become the most popular beer on tap...

Local laws prohibit bars from also selling cannabis, which made the owners' job "very tricky," said Alan. But he figured out that if he used the hemp-based non-psychoactive form of cannabis, called cannabidiol, or CBD, it would be legal."

Rest of story:

http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=72683

The times they are a-changing!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 17, 2017, 08:35:28 PM
I don't understand.  I don't  understand.  He KILLED a man.  He KILLED a man sitting in a car.  with no weapon.  I remember this case, I sent a card to his girlfriend, told her I was was so sorry for what happened, that it was an injustice......but I only had her name and city, not her address, and the card came back to me.......

Hundreds Protest After Minnesota Officer Found Not Guilty In Philando Castile Death


June 16, 20174:00 PM ET
Updated 2:15 a.m. ET Saturday

Hundreds of people gathered in St. Paul, Minn., Friday evening to protest a verdict that found a Minnesota police officer not guilty on all counts in his deadly shooting of a black man during a traffic stop in 2016.

Castile, a 32-year-old school cafeteria worker, was driving with his girlfriend and her 4-year-old daughter when they were pulled over by St. Anthony police Officer Jeronimo Yanez.

"Seventy-four seconds after Yanez activated his squad lights, he fired the last of seven shots into the car," Minnesota Public Radio's Matt Sepic reported.

Yanez was charged last November with one count of felony second-degree manslaughter in Castile's death. He also faced two felony counts of intentional discharge of a dangerous weapon over allegedly endangering Castile's girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, and her daughter. He pleaded not guilty.

Yanez said in court that "he was forced to shoot Castile because the driver was not complying with the officer's commands and was reaching for a gun. Yanez previously testified he had stopped Castile because the driver resembled a suspect in a local convenience store robbery days earlier," MPR reported.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 17, 2017, 09:58:06 PM
I don't understand.  I don't  understand.  He KILLED a man.  He KILLED a man sitting in a car.  with no weapon.  I remember this case, I sent a card to his girlfriend, told her I was was so sorry for what happened, that it was an injustice......but I only had her name and city, not her address, and the card came back to me.......

*shakes head*   I remember that story.  My heart goes out to his girlfriend and his family.  Stories like this make me so angry.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 17, 2017, 10:00:52 PM
Bill Cosby Mistrial: Hollywood Reporter Legal Experts Debate How It Happened and What's Next

UNE 17, 2017 11:37am PT by Matthew Belloni , Eriq Gardner , Ashley Cullins

"Are either of you surprised? Can’t say I am," says THR senior editor Eriq Gardner as a trio of trial watchers discuss the reasons for the hung jury, the celebrity factor and whether a re-trial makes sense: "It’s always nearly impossible to predict what a dozen jurors are going to decide."

After five days of deliberation, the Pennslyvania jury tasked with deciding whether Bill Cosby is guilty of sexually assaulting ex-Temple University employee Andrea Constand in 2004 announced today it was "hopelessly deadlocked" and could not reach a verdict. Following Montgomery County Judge Steven T. O'Neill's decision to decare a mistrial (and prosecutors' vow to retry Cosby), The Hollywood Reporter convened its trio of legal experts to debate the result and the next steps. Editorial director Matthew Belloni, who once practiced entertainment law, exchanged emails with senior editor Eriq Gardner, who writes and edits the publication's legal blog THR, Esq. with staff reporter Ashley Cullins. An edited version of their exchange, in which they explore what led to this outcome and what might change if prosecutors follow through on their promise to re-try the case, is below....

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/bill-cosby-mistrial-legal-experts-debate-how-happened-whats-next-1014472
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 18, 2017, 10:34:58 AM
This is why I don't like Bill Cosby: Spring of 1982 I turned on the Tonight Show
and Bill Cosby was filling in as guest host for Johnny Carson. One of the guests
was Aileen Quinn, the little girl starring in the just released movie Annie.

I was appalled at the way he treated this young girl and the very inappropriate
questions he asked her. She seemed very uncomfortable to me and I've thought
Bill Cosby was a creep ever after.

I have written this before on the forum a couple times previously. At one time I thought
I found a clip of that interview from the Tonight Show, but the link didn't work any more,
but because it was online, I did get a corroboration of my feelings about it from the person
who had originally posted it. So once in awhile, when things like this come up, I look online
again to see if this video might be there.

Just now I found it!  It is a very bad quality copy, judging from the first ten seconds, but there
it is. I have often wondered if I watched it again would I dismiss those feelings I had when I first
saw it back in 1982. I haven't seen it since then.  I'm going to watch it now.

It's on Vimeo, not youtube, but should be accessible to all.  After I watch it I'll post what I think of it now.

https://vimeo.com/18429714

______

EDIT after watching it: The video's a little over 9 minutes. The first 4:20 is the interview, followed by
Aileen singing a medley from Annie.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 18, 2017, 10:56:05 AM
I still think he's creepy in this interview.

One of the things in my memory is that he asked her about her underwear.
In this video in the very first minute Cosby says some words that are bleeped
out. Was that it, because otherwise there's no mention of underwear on this video.
Actually, I Believe he used the word "panties." Regardless, with a ten year old on
stage being interviewed, shouldn't you avoid saying anything that would get bleeped
out? He also references that he was told if he mentioned something it would get bleeped.
So this came up before the taping. He does anyway.

By the way, from my memory of this, that pitcher on his desk was referenced in his opening
monologue or talk or whatever he did at the beginning of the show. I remember him saying it
was an alcoholic beverage (margaritas?) but I couldn't believe he'd be actually allowed to drink
something alcoholic in front of the audience.  Or even have it onstage while interviewing a child.
If he was drunk I could believe it.  (During her song he pours himself one. Plus, he also has a
cigar in front of her.)

As one who did so many commercials featuring children, I don't know how he thought this was in
any way appropriate.

In the previous post I mentioned someone else corroborating my sentiments. It's still online,
but, as I said, the youtube video is no longer there:
___

Quote
Strange Bill Cosby inerviewing Aileen Quinn -by annielauri (no login)

Has anyone else seen this interview? Something is bleeped in the beginning (I can't figure out what he says) and the rest of the questions seem completely inappropriate to ask to a young child. Aileen handled the interview so professionally with lots of charisma. I was impressed by her for sure! Bill Cosby, not so much. Strange.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7c5JMOIdvo&feature=related

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on June 18, 2017, 12:53:46 PM
He's not one bit concerned with making her comfortable - he's talking at her, just trying to get laughs, not talking with her. In fact he seems to have no actual interest in her.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on June 18, 2017, 02:41:58 PM
This is why I don't like Bill Cosby: Spring of 1982 I turned on the Tonight Show
and Bill Cosby was filling in as guest host for Johnny Carson. One of the guests
was Aileen Quinn, the little girl starring in the just released movie Annie.

I was appalled at the way he treated this young girl and the very inappropriate
questions he asked her. She seemed very uncomfortable to me and I've thought
Bill Cosby was a creep ever after.

I have written this before on the forum a couple times previously. At one time I thought
I found a clip of that interview from the Tonight Show, but the link didn't work any more,
but because it was online, I did get a corroboration of my feelings about it from the person
who had originally posted it. So once in awhile, when things like this come up, I look online
again to see if this video might be there.

Just now I found it!  It is a very bad quality copy, judging from the first ten seconds, but there
it is. I have often wondered if I watched it again would I dismiss those feelings I had when I first
saw it back in 1982. I haven't seen it since then.  I'm going to watch it now.

It's on Vimeo, not youtube, but should be accessible to all.  After I watch it I'll post what I think of it now.

https://vimeo.com/18429714

______

EDIT after watching it: The video's a little over 9 minutes. The first 4:20 is the interview, followed by
Aileen singing a medley from Annie.

Oh. My. God! I'm at a loss for words.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 18, 2017, 05:46:03 PM
I can't believe he asked her if she was going to take her clothes off.

::) 
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 18, 2017, 07:47:04 PM
London vehicle hits pedestrians, police say 'number of casualties'

By Alla Eshchenko, Ryan Prior and Darran Simon


A vehicle hit pedestrians in London and there are "a number of casualties being worked on at the scene," according to authorities.

London's Metropolitan Police said officers were called just after midnight Sunday to an incident on Seven Sisters Road. "There has been one person arrested. Inquiries continue. More information will be released when confirmed," police said.

Transport for London tweeted that Seven Sisters Road was closed northbound at Hornsey Road and southbound at Rock Street.

CNN national terror analyst Peter Bergen said the neighborhood has a large Muslim population and the nearby mosque has a notorious reputation as a place where Islamist militants used to gather.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/18/europe/urgent---london-vehicle-collision/index.html
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 18, 2017, 07:51:06 PM
THE MEMO: For Trump, danger signs in the polls

BY NIALL STANAGE - 06/18/17 06:14 PM EDT

President Trump’s willingness to flout convention and stoke controversy may be starting to hurt him, even among previously strong supporters.

Trump has defied political norms ever since the start of his campaign two years ago. He brushed aside calls to become a more conventional candidate, and it paid off, making him the nation’s 45th president.

But Trump’s approval rating, always low by historical standards, has been sliding since he took office in January. Crucially, many recent surveys detected an erosion of his support among Republicans and independents.

Trump’s job performance wins approval from only 35 percent of the public, while 64 percent disapprove, according to a new poll released late last week from The Associated Press and the NORC Center for Public Affairs Research. That is one of the worst findings yet for Trump in any major survey.

The same poll found that 65 percent of Americans think their president has little or no respect for the nation’s democratic institutions and traditions.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/338225-the-memo-for-trump-danger-signs-in-the-polls
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 19, 2017, 10:23:05 AM
About the London attack:

Witness says driver shouted, ‘I want to kill all Muslims’.

Instead  of bars/pubs, we need therapists/psychiatrists on every corner.

_____

It just dawned on me that last time I visited London I and a friend stayed with
an acquaintance in Finsbury Park. I have a photo of me somewhere in front of
the Finsbury Park tube station.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 19, 2017, 10:28:56 AM
THE MEMO: For Trump, danger signs in the polls

Trump’s job performance wins approval from only 35 percent of the public

Only?  I have never understood how he ever gets that much.  I hate to believe so many people
could ever have looked at him and go "President?"  "Yes!"


while 64 percent disapprove


The same poll found that 65 percent of Americans think their president has little or no respect for the nation’s democratic institutions and traditions.

No. Really? Whatever gave them that idea?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 20, 2017, 09:43:48 AM
The Dems need a win on something and I hope it comes in the Georgia 6th tonight.
The polls have it completely tied.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 20, 2017, 09:48:33 AM
Slowly but surely...still high among Republicans, though...81% is not to be sneezed at...

President Donald Trump's approval among the core groups that make up his base has begun to erode, contributing to his overall approval rating hitting a new low in Quinnipiac University's political tracking poll.

While Trump's support in his core constituencies – white voters, men and Republicans – had remained resilient throughout his lowest points on the campaign trail and into the first months of his presidency, Wednesday's edition of the Quinnipiac poll registered significant drops in all three groups since the beginning of the month.

The president's approval among Republican voters dropped 10 points, to 81 percent, among Republicans, with 14 percent saying they disapprove. On March 7, that same group approved of how the Trump was handling the job of president 91 percent to 5 percent who disapproved.


https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-03-22/poll-trumps-support-among-core-constituencies-slipping-overall-approval-lowest-yet (https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-03-22/poll-trumps-support-among-core-constituencies-slipping-overall-approval-lowest-yet)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 20, 2017, 10:32:41 AM

How can anyone look at "how Trump was handling the job of president" and actually approve?
All you need to know is that if any Democrat, and most probably any other Republican, too, was
acting like Trump they would be absolutely livid.



Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 20, 2017, 11:44:29 AM
Not everyone hates him , his base still loves him...and Republicans are backing him up, thinking better him than a Democrat...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 20, 2017, 12:58:08 PM
Not everyone hates him

That would be fine with me if he weren't President.

There's a reason that "Hamilton" is in vogue nowadays, especially
with this quote attributed to him, "The masses are asses."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 20, 2017, 01:00:59 PM

By the way, if you read comment sections on news articles, that seems to be the
primary reason that his supporters love Trump; because it p.o.'s those that do not.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 20, 2017, 01:01:12 PM
but he is president  -  and they still like him.  His base doesn't care about "Hamilton". 

I thought that a large percentage of the people who voted for him - lower/middle class who just wanted change / something new and different, would come to realize that he wasn't the answer......but so far, no...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 20, 2017, 01:22:24 PM
please answer with your own opinions, not links to leftie sites...just your own opinion would be good...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 20, 2017, 01:41:37 PM

Did I suggest that his base does care about Hamilton?

Like I said, his base only cares that they're sticking it to everyone else.

They like him because he is reflecting what they feel. Aggrieved.
Fearful. Angry. Everyone is out to get them. (Witch hunt.) Everyone
else is getting things they aren't. Their problems are someone else's
fault. He's the perfect symbol of all their neuroses.

They won't admit that he isn't the answer because when do conservatives ever admit
something like that? They double down.

For all of their talk of liberty and personal responsibility, they will never take responsibility for this atrocity.
And I read an article why they won't. Because Trump, and years of media bashing by the far right, has put
all the blame for his troubles on the MSM. So if he ever is driven out of office, that will be who they blame.

They've chosen their Elmer Gantry, where the forces of social good and enlightenment aren't now strong
enough to offer any real resistance to the forces of social evil and banality as epitomized by the charlatan-in-chief.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 20, 2017, 01:44:46 PM
please answer with your own opinions, not links to leftie sites...just your own opinion would be good...

? ? ?

Is that to me? I haven't linked anything.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on June 20, 2017, 02:03:38 PM
That would be fine with me if he weren't President.

There's a reason that "Hamilton" is in vogue nowadays, especially
with this quote attributed to him, "The masses are asses."

His masses don't see it that way...........Hamilton is not "in vogue" with them

I don't see the dems coming up with anyone to beat him.....what the fuck are they waiting for?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on June 20, 2017, 07:05:12 PM
It's was 49 degrees Celsius in Phoenix today. That's over 120 F! People are being told to avoid paved areas and flights were cancelled.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on June 20, 2017, 07:30:55 PM
^^^^ Yes, not as bad here. 40°C/103°F here in Albuquerque, and for the next 3 days!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 21, 2017, 06:30:16 PM
Hope you're keeping cool, Auntie!!!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on June 21, 2017, 06:59:09 PM
Once we get in the house, it has AC. Last night it was 73° at 11 pm and 78° in the house.
104° today and the same tomorrow.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 22, 2017, 10:09:50 AM

I don't like it when it goes over 70°.  I can't imagine that environment right now.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on June 22, 2017, 11:22:18 AM
I don't like it when it goes over 70°.  I can't imagine that environment right now.


Yes it's pretty rotten right now, Lyle. I am in the house, but packing boxes and moving them and stacking them. It is 87° right now and about 78° in the house (swamp cooler cooled. if the temp outside is high, they don't work worth shit)

I have to sit every 45-60 minutes and cool off and drink water.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 23, 2017, 10:18:22 AM

WHat a chore just to get through the day.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on June 23, 2017, 11:53:04 AM
You are absolutely correct, Lyle!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 24, 2017, 10:45:21 AM
Hang in there, Auntie! I hope things improve soon.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 24, 2017, 11:55:30 AM
*shakes head*

I don't have the words.


Texas mom arrested after 2 children die in hot car during ‘lesson’

Police have arrested a Texas mother after she allegedly left her two young children in a hot car as a form of punishment in late May.

Cynthia Marie Randolph, 25, faces charges of first-degree felony counts of injury to a child causing serious bodily injury, according to the Park County Sheriff’s Office.

The two young children — a 2-year-old girl and a 16-month-old boy — were found dead in Parker County, Texas on May 26. The Tarrant County medical examiner’s website identified the children as Juliet and Cavanaugh Ramirez.

Parker County Sheriff’s Capt. Mark Arnett told CNN that according to the mother, the children were playing in a back room of their home when they disappeared. After searching the home, the mother found them playing in the car.

According to investigators, when the 2-year-old refused to get out of the vehicle, Randolph closed the door and left them inside to teach them “a lesson,” thinking that her daughter would be able to open the door when they wanted to leave, according to WFAA.

http://pix11.com/2017/06/24/texas-mom-arrested-after-2-children-die-in-hot-car-during-lesson/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 24, 2017, 12:00:48 PM
Evidence is mounting that Russia took 4 clear paths to meddle in the US election

Sonam Sheth and Natasha Bertrand


It was September 2015 when the FBI first noticed that Russian hackers had infiltrated a computer system belonging to the Democratic National Committee.

It was the first sign that Moscow was attempting to meddle in the presidential election.

Nearly a year later, further reporting and testimony from current and former intelligence officials have painted a portrait of Russia’s election interference as a multifaceted, well-planned, and coordinated campaign aimed at undermining the backbone of American democracy: free and fair elections.

Now, as FBI special counsel Robert Mueller and congressional intelligence committees continue to investigate Russia's election interference, evidence is emerging that the hacking and disinformation campaign waged at the direction of Russian President Vladimir Putin took at least four separate but related paths.

http://www.businessinsider.com/evidence-russia-meddled-in-us-election-2017-6
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 24, 2017, 12:11:39 PM
The Senate health bill is a scathing indictment of the Republican Party

Paul Waldman

Too often, we think of politics as a game, losing ourselves in the personalities and the strategies and the winning and losing. But the reason it matters in the first place is that all of our lives are affected by politics, by who holds power and what decisions they make. And in those decisions, lawmakers reveal themselves. They show us what — and who — is important to them. Republicans and Democrats aren't just opposing teams, like the Yankees and Red Sox. They represent two alternate visions of the world and two very different moral systems.

While those contrasting moralities express themselves every day in ways large and small, every once in a while a party gets the opportunity to make a grand statement about what it believes. That's what Republicans in the Senate did this week when they released their version of a health-care bill. If you want to know what today's GOP is all about, you can find the answer woven through that bill's pages.

Let's begin with one of the party's two great goals, one that extends beyond this bill to other issues like taxes and regulation. That goal is to make life as easy and pleasant as possible for the wealthy, those "job creators" whose virtue is proven by the size of their bank accounts. The Senate's bill gives them a cornucopia of benefits, rolling back the tax increases that were contained in the Affordable Care Act, to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. One cut, on investment taxes, would even be made retroactive to the beginning of the year, just to put something extra in the wealthy's pockets. There are a couple of more little goodies in there, like the repeal of an ACA provision that limited the tax deduction for insurance company CEO pay to the first $500,000. The Republicans who wrote the bill were being very thoughtful.

http://theweek.com/articles/707541/senate-health-bill-scathing-indictment-republican-party
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on June 24, 2017, 02:53:09 PM
*shakes head*

I don't have the words.


Texas mom arrested after 2 children die in hot car during ‘lesson’

Police have arrested a Texas mother after she allegedly left her two young children in a hot car as a form of punishment in late May.

Cynthia Marie Randolph, 25, faces charges of first-degree felony counts of injury to a child causing serious bodily injury, according to the Park County Sheriff’s Office.

The two young children — a 2-year-old girl and a 16-month-old boy — were found dead in Parker County, Texas on May 26. The Tarrant County medical examiner’s website identified the children as Juliet and Cavanaugh Ramirez.

Parker County Sheriff’s Capt. Mark Arnett told CNN that according to the mother, the children were playing in a back room of their home when they disappeared. After searching the home, the mother found them playing in the car.

According to investigators, when the 2-year-old refused to get out of the vehicle, Randolph closed the door and left them inside to teach them “a lesson,” thinking that her daughter would be able to open the door when they wanted to leave, according to WFAA.

http://pix11.com/2017/06/24/texas-mom-arrested-after-2-children-die-in-hot-car-during-lesson/


Death is considered a serious bodily injury in Texas?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: suelyblu on June 24, 2017, 04:22:54 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4634436/Gay-pride-police-car-set-debut-weekend.html

There's always some kill joys around...but I say "Good on ya" to our Police Force here in the UK.

Wonderful.  :D    :-*
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 24, 2017, 04:46:43 PM
Death is considered a serious bodily injury in Texas?

I was wondering about that too, the charge didn't make sense.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 25, 2017, 09:30:25 AM
Six hurt as car hits crowd in Newcastle Eid celebration

I was at a car park when I heard screaming so I ran towards the community college just a couple of minutes from me.
When I went over I saw that there was a very young teenager covered in blood; another very young teenager also looked injured.
There was a middle-aged man outside the community college with facial injuries and blood all over his face.
The police were already at the scene. I had seen them earlier as they were there watching the prayers.
The police put the driver of the car in the back of the police van.
When I spoke to people at the scene that had seen what happened they said that she was exiting a car park and suddenly accelerated into a crowd of people.


http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-tyne-40397028
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on June 26, 2017, 02:03:53 AM
^^^^
It sounds as if it was an accident: a woman who had been praying there seems to have lost control of her car. The police apparently don't think it was terror-related.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 28, 2017, 01:27:59 PM


Proof That People are Lying About Their Sexual Desires
What Google searches tell us about ourselves.
by Sean Illing / Jun 27, 2017 /VOX

A few paragraphs:

Among other things, the data suggests that there are more gay men in the closet than we think; that many men prefer overweight women to skinny women but are afraid to act on it; that married women are disproportionately worried their husband is gay; that a lot of straight women watch lesbian porn; and that porn featuring violence against women is more popular among women than men.
___

It’s clear that a lot of gay men remain in the closet. In places where it's hard to be gay, such as Mississippi, far fewer men say that they are gay than in places where it's easy to be gay, such as New York. But gay porn searches are about the same everywhere.
___

The number one question that women have about their husbands is whether he is gay. And these questions are much higher in the Deep South, where my research suggests there are indeed more gay men married to women. I think women are too obsessed with their husbands' sexuality. Women are eight times more likely to ask Google if their husband is gay than if he is an alcoholic and 10 times more likely to ask Google if their husband is gay than if he is depressed. It is far more likely that a woman is married to a man who is secretly an alcoholic or secretly depressed than secretly gay. About 98 percent of women’s husbands are really straight. Trust me.
___

This article is an interview with the author of a book called:
EVERYBODY LIES, Big Data, New Data and What the Internet Can Tell Us About Who We Really Are.

There is also a companion article using other gleaned info in the book that unfortunately concludes:

Two findings from the book dominated the conversation: America is riddled with racist and selfish people, and there may be a self-induced abortion crisis in this country.

https://www.vox.com/conversations/2017/6/13/15768622/facebook-social-media-seth-stephens-davidowitz-everybody-lies
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 28, 2017, 04:36:15 PM
Doesn't surprise me at all that this nation is riddled with racists and selfish people.

I don't understand what the author means by "a self-induced abortion crisis." Does he mean fewer abortions take place in the U.S. than people think?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 28, 2017, 04:58:40 PM
I didn't know what that really meant, either, Jeff, and I did
look it up earlier to see what he meant. He means that his
research finds a lot of people are searching for how to do an
abortion themselves, in other words, a self-induced abortion.

Here's the article passage:

Sean Illing (interviewer):  What’s the most shocking finding of your research?


Seth Stephens-Davidowitz (book author):

I'm pretty convinced that the United States has a self-induced abortion crisis right now based on the volume of search inquiries. I was blown away by how frequently people are searching for ways to do abortions themselves now. These searches are concentrated in parts of the country where it's hard to get an abortion and they rose substantially when the laws made it even harder to get an abortion. They're also, I calculate, missing pregnancies in these states that aren't showing up in either abortion or birth rates.

That's pretty disturbing and I think isn't really being talked about. But I think, based on the data, it's clearly going on.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 28, 2017, 06:34:06 PM
I didn't know what that really meant, either, Jeff, and I did
look it up earlier to see what he meant. He means that his
research finds a lot of people are searching for how to do an
abortion themselves, in other words, a self-induced abortion.

Thanks, Lyle.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 28, 2017, 07:15:42 PM
Arkansas' Ten Commandments Monument Lasted Less Than 24 Hours

LAUREL WAMSLEY

Less than a day after a monument of the Ten Commandments was installed outside the Arkansas State Capitol in Little Rock, it was destroyed when a man smashed a car into the stone.

Authorities say Michael T. Reed II drove a 2016 Dodge Dart into the 6,000-pound granite slab at about 4:47 a.m. local time on Wednesday.

"My boss called me and told me the Ten Commandments monument had been destroyed," Secretary of State and Capitol Police spokesman Chris Powell told NPR. "When I got here, it was rolled over on the sidewalk and broken into multiple pieces."

A video that appears to have been taken from inside the car was posted on the Facebook account of a Michael Reed early Wednesday; Powell told the AP that officials believe the video is authentic. It shows what looks like the Arkansas State Capitol building. A man's voice says: "Oh my goodness. Freedom!" as the car careens into the monument.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/28/534697858/arkansas-ten-commandments-monument-lasted-less-than-24-hours
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 28, 2017, 07:20:39 PM
Why Mitch McConnell and the Republicans Can’t Fix Health Care

By John Cassidy


Mitch McConnell’s decision to postpone a vote on his health-care-reform bill, the Better Care Reconciliation Act of 2017, is a political setback (and perhaps only a temporary one) for the Republican Party. But, beyond this week’s drama, the bill and its troubles reflect conservatism’s failure when it comes to thinking about health care.

Even if McConnell somehow manages to revive the bill in the coming weeks and put together the fifty votes that he needs to get it through the Senate, that broader failure will remain a problem for him and his party. If they end up passing this bill or something like it, they will be betting their future on a reform that cannot deliver what Donald Trump promised during the election campaign and what Paul Ryan and his colleagues promised last December: reasonably priced access to health care for every American. Over time, political pressure would mount for the restoration of Obamacare, or even for a public option available to everyone.

Conservative supporters of the Senate bill disagree, of course. Writing in the Washington Post over the weekend, Avik Roy, a former health-care adviser to Mitt Romney, said that passing this legislation would “represent the greatest policy achievement by a Republican Congress in generations.” It would create “a thriving, consumer-driven individual insurance market, with as many as 30 million participants, available to the healthy and the sick and the young and the old, whose successes will lay the groundwork for future efforts at entitlement reform.”

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/why-mitch-mcconnell-and-the-republicans-cant-fix-health-care
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on June 28, 2017, 07:22:34 PM
They would consider denying poor people health insurance as a side benefit.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 29, 2017, 12:16:11 PM

The biggest reason they can't fix health care is that they simply do not
believe in it. Remember at that Republican debate where the audience
cheered when a candidate was asked if someone couldn't pay for their
needs when it came to healthcare and they pretty much said, so what,
that's their problem? Like Scrooge says in Dicken's story, it would help
decrease the population. 



 
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 29, 2017, 12:25:21 PM

"My boss called me and told me the Ten Commandments monument had been destroyed," Secretary of State and Capitol Police spokesman Chris Powell told NPR. "When I got here, it was rolled over on the sidewalk and broken into multiple pieces."


This reminds me of Mel Brooks playing Moses in The History of the World, Part 1.
He takes the tablets up to the mount and shouts to the people:

               MOSES
Hear me! Oh, hear me!  All pay heed!
The Lord! The Lord Jehovah has given
unto you these fifteen...
     (drops one of the tablets that shatters
      into multiple pieces)
...these ten...TEN COMMANDMENTS...for
all to obey!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I48hr8HhDv0

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 29, 2017, 12:57:20 PM

Many places are having their PRIDE celebrations this weekend.

ENJOY!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 29, 2017, 02:55:11 PM
“represent the greatest policy achievement by a Republican Congress in generations.” It would create “a thriving, consumer-driven individual insurance market, with as many as 30 million participants, available to the healthy and the sick and the young and the old, whose successes will lay the groundwork for future efforts at entitlement reform.”

God, what bullshit from Avik Roy. Somebody get me a shovel.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 29, 2017, 06:26:36 PM
Venus Williams Involved in Deadly Car Crash That Killed 78-Year-Old Man

by MCKENNA AIELLO

Venus Williams was involved in a recent car accident that left one man dead, according to a police report released Thursday and obtained by E! News.

The collision occurred on June 9 in Palm Beach Gardens, Fla., though 78-year-old Jerome Barson died two weeks later after being taken to the ICU with head trauma. The victim's wife (who suffered broken bones and other injuries) was behind the wheel and approaching an intersection when the tennis pro's 2010 Toyota Sequoia SUV moved into the intersection at the same time.

http://www.eonline.com/news/864152/venus-williams-involved-in-deadly-car-crash-that-killed-78-year-old-man
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 29, 2017, 06:29:09 PM
Vatican Sex Abuse Scandal Reveals Blind Spot for Francis

By JASON HOROWITZ and LAURIE GOODSTEIN

Pope Francis came to power promising not only to create a more inclusive church and to clean up an ossified Vatican bureaucracy, but also to remove the stain of child sex abuse.

A global pedophilia scandal plagued his two immediate processors. With Francis’s election in 2013, many expected progress. Francis talked about powerful committees to safeguard children, tribunals to try bishops and a “zero tolerance” policy for offending priests.

It hasn’t exactly worked out that way.

On Thursday, the Vatican announced that Francis had granted a leave of absence to Cardinal George Pell, now the highest-ranking Roman Catholic prelate to be formally charged with sexual offenses, and one the pope had brought into his inner circle even as a cloud of allegations swirled over the cardinal in Australia.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/29/world/europe/cardinal-pell-charges-australia.html
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 29, 2017, 06:31:32 PM
'Blinded by YouTube fame': Stunts and pranks go awry in the online era

By Eric Levenson, CNN


An attempt to go viral on YouTube ended in death and a manslaughter charge this week, the latest bid to win online fame that has ended badly.

Police in Minnesota said Monalisa Perez, 19, shot and killed her boyfriend Pedro Ruiz III on Monday as part of a video the pair planned to post on YouTube. Thinking it would protect him, Ruiz held a book up over his chest as Perez fired at him from a foot away with a handgun, police said.

But the book failed to stop the bullet, and Ruiz was pronounced dead from a single gunshot to the chest.   Perez, who is pregnant, has been charged with second-degree manslaughter. She faces up to 10 years in jail and a fine of up to $20,000 if convicted.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/29/us/youtube-stunts-death/index.html
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on June 29, 2017, 06:41:01 PM
Surprise.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 03, 2017, 11:42:49 AM

This is going to be devastating.

Photobucket Just Broke Billions of Photos Across the Web
by Will Nicholls / JUL 01, 2017

https://petapixel.com/2017/07/01/photobucket-just-broke-billions-photos-embedded-web/ (https://petapixel.com/2017/07/01/photobucket-just-broke-billions-photos-embedded-web/)

Since 2003, the popular photo hosting service Photobucket has been letting users upload and host images for free on their servers. They have over 10 billion images stored by 100 million registered users. But now they’re going to start charging, and that means billions of images around the Web are now broken.

It would have been nice instead if users were asked to pay for any future 3rd party hosting or hot linking as this sudden policy will leave countless sites with unlinked photographs. And no warning.

Photobucket allowed hotlinking photos uploaded to and stored on its servers for a long time. This was their business model, and they made money from ads on their own site, which users would be exposed to when they went to upload content.

Unfortunately for Photobucket users, without warning, things just changed. Now the service is rolling out a $399 per year subscription fee for those who want to hotlink images from Photobucket’s servers to display elsewhere. That means that billions of images across the Web now display an error message instead of the image in question.

The move has sparked fury from users, who have relied on the service for years and now feel “blackmailed” into paying the subscription fee.

Or as the headline from another article says:

Photobucket Says Photo-f**k-it, Starts Off-Site Image Shakedown

Can Photobucket be sued? It's one thing to start a new policy, but to start one that affects up to 14 years of understanding with a company...that seems just wrong.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 04, 2017, 10:54:17 AM
(http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/709071/25144210/1404387619590/brokeback-fireworks.gif?token=qBJk95rEMBhCqWrQTxHywdaOpjE%3D)

Happy Holiday, y'all!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on July 04, 2017, 02:57:03 PM
Same to you, Lyle!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on July 04, 2017, 08:56:47 PM
So, has Trump made the 4th of July all about him yet?  :(
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 05, 2017, 02:54:18 PM
^^^

Not directly, but Trump supporters tried to.
Trump did try to take credit for the lowest gas prices on July 4th since 2004.


But Trump supporters showed their true colors: NPR annually reads the Declaration of Independence each year
on their radio program. This year they also decided to tweet the entire thing in 100 tweets.  And Trump supporters
were offended and made it known they don't even know what the Declaration of Independence is.

Trump Supporter Tweets:

"Propaganda is that all you know how?
Try supporting a man who wants to do
something about the injustice in this
country." #drain the swamp

"Yes. NPR journalists with a 'mission.' "

"So NPR is calling for revolution. Interesting way to
condone the violence while sounding patriotic."

"Glad you are being defunded. You have never been
balanced on this show."

"Are you drunk? Your silly tweets make your state of
mind questionable."

"Seriously, this is the dumbest thing I have ever seen on twitter.
Literally no one is going to read 5000 tweets about this trash."
__________________________

When the tweets were outlining some of the gripes had with King George,
people thought it was "Trump" being talked about and were very offended.
This one upset the deplorables the most:

"A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant,
is unfit to be the ruler of a free people and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized
nation."

Like I always say,  "Don't take it personally, unless it is."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 05, 2017, 02:59:44 PM

How do you love a country where nearly half the people who went to the voting booth chose a man who campaigned on fear and hate? How do you love a country where the majority of our elected representatives are arguing over how many millions of its citizens should have their health care stripped from them? Donald Trump's presidency makes it more urgent than ever this Independence Day to think seriously about what your patriotism means. But Trump isn't just a bad President, he's a b ad human being.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/how-to-be-patriotic-in-trumps-america-w490449
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on July 05, 2017, 04:17:45 PM
Uh, King George III.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on July 05, 2017, 04:55:41 PM
Trump tweeted this piece of propaganda on July 4th.  :o

The song "Make America Great Again" sung by an apparently all white choral. Listen and weep:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AK8cqJu52I

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on July 05, 2017, 05:04:25 PM
Everything's all about him.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: brian on July 05, 2017, 09:40:12 PM
This fills me with absolute disgust. I suppose it has been covered on US news sites.

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/world/politician-apologises-filming-auschwitz
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 06, 2017, 10:49:52 AM
Uh, King George III.

Madness. I'm 0-2 this week.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on July 06, 2017, 11:28:45 AM
Oh Canada  :(

Canadian Government To Pay Islamic Terrorist $10.5 Million

(CNN)A Canadian man who spent 10 years at Guantanamo Bay after fighting US troops in Afghanistan is getting more than $10 million and an apology from the Canadian government, according to media reports

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/americas/canada-omar-khadr-reported-settlement/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/americas/canada-omar-khadr-reported-settlement/index.html)

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 06, 2017, 11:48:34 AM

I read that article and the question of "why" this decision is being made isn't answered anywhere.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 06, 2017, 12:18:51 PM
Uh, King George III.

Emperor Donald I.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 06, 2017, 12:30:07 PM
But Trump supporters showed their true colors: NPR annually reads the Declaration of Independence each year
on their radio program. This year they also decided to tweet the entire thing in 100 tweets.  And Trump supporters
were offended and made it known they don't even know what the Declaration of Independence is.

I wish I could say such ignorance shocks me, but it doesn't--and not just from the idiots who voted for the son-of-a-bitch.

An awful lot of Americans are woefully ignorant of the nation's history; they think the Gettysburg Address is a post office box. (Never mind the ignorance of the rest of the world; I just don't want to go there.)

But I gotta say, something seems a bit odd to me: Trumpites getting tweets from NPR? I don't do any of that social media stuff, but don't you have to sign up, or something, to get tweets from somebody?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 06, 2017, 01:27:18 PM
You do, Jeff, but what strikes me, if you read any articles online from supposed liberal media sites,
many of the commenters are Trump trolls. It seems they have a huge need to get online and shout
how superior and right they are and how awful liberals, and a list of others, are.  So it doesn't surprise
me if they sign up for things so they can rail against them. That's my guess. They always seem to be
looking for something to be offended about.

Like Trump himself. He keeps railing against the media, but we know that he watches all the things
he rails against.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 06, 2017, 01:34:17 PM
You do, Jeff, but what strikes me, if you read any articles online from supposed liberal media sites,
many of the commenters are Trump trolls. It seems they have a huge need to get online and shout
how superior and right they are and how awful liberals, and a list of others, are.  So it doesn't surprise
me if they sign up for things so they can rail against them. That's my guess. They always seem to be
looking for something to be offended about.

Like Trump himself. He keeps railing against the media, but we know that he watches all the things
he rails against.

Thanks, Lyle. Very interesting about the Trump Trolls. (They should organize  ;D . Oh, I guess they did; it's called the Republican Party. ...  ::) )

So it seems all these Real Americans can't live with the media that is a danger to the country, but they also can't live without it.  ::)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 06, 2017, 03:56:39 PM

They need an enemy of some sort.  They can't yell about Obama.
They run the House and the Senate and have installed a stolen
Supreme Court Justice. Donnie loves Russia, so there's not much
else. The millennial Republicans aren't so worked up about LGBT
persons, so the media is getting it with an assist from Donald.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on July 06, 2017, 05:08:19 PM
Trump, the hotel magnate, forgot to book a room for the G20 summit, has to couch surf.  :P

http://addictinginfo.com/2017/07/06/trumps-team-is-so-incompetent-they-couldnt-even-book-a-hotel-room-for-g20-summit/

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 07, 2017, 10:31:18 AM

That's good, they don't have to worry about Russian hookers peeing on the furniture.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 07, 2017, 11:10:11 AM
They need an enemy of some sort.  They can't yell about Obama.
They run the House and the Senate and have installed a stolen
Supreme Court Justice. Donnie loves Russia, so there's not much
else. The millennial Republicans aren't so worked up about LGBT
persons, so the media is getting it with an assist from Donald.

Why not? The Orange One does. If he can't find someone else to blame, he blames Obama.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on July 07, 2017, 11:34:42 AM
The fact that his people forgot to make reservations in Hamburg is Obama's fault. Of course.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 07, 2017, 11:40:40 AM
The fact that his people forgot to make reservations in Hamburg is Obama's fault. Of course.

I wonder if he's tried Air BnB?

He could swap the White House on weekends, since he's always at Mar-a-Lago on the taxpayers' dime.

Talk about a scam. ...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on July 07, 2017, 11:43:32 AM
The Saudis rented all of the Four Seasons in Hamburg.

Maybe they'll rent him a cot. For a mere €500 per night. Including a free breakfast bagel.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on July 07, 2017, 06:24:08 PM
I thought I was kidding.

He is blaming Obama.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4674154/Trump-staying-government-Hamburg-lodgings-blame-Obama.html

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 07, 2017, 08:21:06 PM
I thought I was kidding.

He is blaming Obama.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4674154/Trump-staying-government-Hamburg-lodgings-blame-Obama.html


::) ::)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 07, 2017, 11:25:40 PM
Christie hit with ethics complaint for his exclusive beach day

By Lia Eustachewich July 6, 2017


There was “Bridgegate” — and now there’s “Beachgate.”  A New Jersey lawyer has filed an ethics complaint against Gov. Chris Christie for his exclusive family trip to the beach last week amid the government shutdown.

In the complaint filed Wednesday with the State Ethics Commission, Mario Blanch accuses the unapologetic governor of using his political power to obtain a “special benefit.”

“The governor and his family hold no special privileges over the residents and citizens of the state of New Jersey,” Blanch’s complaint said, according to the Jersey Journal. “By using the park, ‘in direct contravention to the shutdown,’ [Christie] utilized his position as governor … to obtain benefits for himself and his family that members of the general public could not enjoy for themselves.”

Christie and several of his friends and family were caught basking in a sun-filled — and empty — Island Beach State Park in Berkeley Township last Sunday while state services were halted due to the governor’s budget showdown with Democrats.  Blanch, from West New York, said the shutdown crippled Fourth of July weekend plans for many of Christie’s constituents.

Jersey City Mayor Steven Fulop was forced to move the Fourth of July fireworks show and festival from Liberty State Park to Exchange Place as a result, and a 5K race for the New Jersey Special Olympics was canceled, causing the organization to lose out on $40,000 in donations, NJ.com reported.

http://nypost.com/2017/07/06/christie-hit-with-ethics-complaint-for-his-exclusive-beach-day/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on July 08, 2017, 12:35:50 AM
Oh Canada  :(

Canadian Government To Pay Islamic Terrorist $10.5 Million

(CNN)A Canadian man who spent 10 years at Guantanamo Bay after fighting US troops in Afghanistan is getting more than $10 million and an apology from the Canadian government, according to media reports

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/americas/canada-omar-khadr-reported-settlement/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/04/americas/canada-omar-khadr-reported-settlement/index.html)

Oh Canada indeed. Omar Khadr was never tried in a court of law and the evidence against him was very weak. Never mind that he was a 15 year old child soldier.

"[...]
Any experienced trial lawyer would be troubled to open this file. With the exception of Khadr's "confession," wrung from a traumatized and severely wounded teenager under an abusive interrogation, the evidence against him was remarkably thin.

Examined closely, it appears more consistent with his innocence than guilt.

What evidence exists appears confused, inconsistent or contradicted elsewhere. Photographs of the attack scene released in 2009 appear to directly conflict with the prosecution's summary of its own case.
[...]"

http://www.nationalobserver.com/2017/07/07/opinion/what-if-omar-khadr-isnt-guilty
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: brian on July 08, 2017, 01:57:27 AM
Yes, Good on Canada
 Australia has the case of David Hicks who was incarcarated and tortured by Americans in Guantanamo Bay. Only the Australian Government was too lily livered to support him. Eventually Hicks was sent to Australia becasuse the Prime Minister at the time found his continued detainment at Guanatanamo Bay a political embarrassment in an election year which he lost anyway.
 In October 2012, the United States Court of Appeals ruled that the charge under which Hicks had been convicted was invalid, because the law did not exist at the time of the alleged offence, and it could not be applied retrospectively. The efforts of the US to charge Hicks have been described as "a significant departure from the Geneva Conventions and the International Covenant of Civil and Political Rights, quite apart from the US constitution", the implications being that "anyone in the world, who has suitable radical connections and who is in a war zone fighting against Americans, is guilty of a war crime".
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 08, 2017, 11:45:47 AM
Australia has the case of David Hicks who was incarcarated and tortured by Americans in Guantanamo Bay.

Hicks was picked up in 2001 by US forces in Afghanistan, where he'd joined an al-Qaida training camp.
Hicks pleaded guilty in 2007 to providing material support for terrorism.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jan/10/david-hicks-faces-adelaide-court-charged-with-assaulting-his-partner

After reading the wikipedia page concerning him, I'm hard pressed to find much sympathy there.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 08, 2017, 12:41:01 PM
Yes it's pretty rotten right now, Lyle. I am in the house, but packing boxes and moving them and stacking them.
I have to sit every 45-60 minutes and cool off and drink water.

What a chore just to get through the day.

You are absolutely correct, Lyle!


I'm having one of "those" days, Linda.  It's been hot for awhile and today we're supposed to break a high temperature record
for the day set in 1886.  Yesterday on Beverly Blvd. near La Cienega, the exact place I walk over as it's near my dentist and
health clinic, an underground electrical vault under the sidewalk got so hot it exploded, injuring 4 people and blowing out
windows in the building several stories high. In that neighborhood, the electricity had been out for over a day in many of
the residential buildings and was finally restored in the afternoon. Two hours later the explosion knocked out the electricity
for those same people again! It's also affected the hospital which has generators, but they're rerouting ambulances.

At least I'm not having that problem. I have a portable air conditioner in the bedroom, but it has a big flaw. It's not
really made for humid environments and if the humidity is at 50% or more the water collects and so the machine will
only run for 2 hrs. and shut off. Then you have to empty about 1/2 gallon of water. So you have to keep doing it every
2 hours or less. And it drains from an inch off the floor so it is very annoying.  It works fine otherwise, but that is very
annoying.

At least I'm not having to pack boxes then move and stack them.


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 08, 2017, 01:02:11 PM
Hicks was picked up in 2001 by US forces in Afghanistan, where he'd joined an al-Qaida training camp.
Hicks pleaded guilty in 2007 to providing material support for terrorism.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jan/10/david-hicks-faces-adelaide-court-charged-with-assaulting-his-partner

After reading the wikipedia page concerning him, I'm hard pressed to find much sympathy there.

Knowing that, I'm with you, Lyle.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on July 08, 2017, 03:59:39 PM
Oh Canada indeed. Omar Khadr was never tried in a court of law and the evidence against him was very weak. Never mind that he was a 15 year old child soldier
yeah my heart's breaking for him...at least you feel you're getting your moneys worth.  :laugh:
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on July 08, 2017, 07:49:55 PM
yeah my heart's breaking for him...at least you feel you're getting your moneys worth.  :laugh:

You have a heart? I'll take your word for it. ::)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on July 09, 2017, 07:13:27 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 15, 2017, 10:23:52 AM

Another high rise fire, in Honolulu!

No sprinklers again.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 15, 2017, 11:22:08 AM
How  old are these buildings, that they don't have fire prevention systems in them?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on July 15, 2017, 11:28:03 AM
It seems that local government didn't require sprinklers when it was built in 1971. Not mandatory until 1974.

http://khon2.com/2017/07/14/firefighters-respond-to-3-alarm-fire-in-marco-polo-building/

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 16, 2017, 07:30:00 PM
George A. Romero, Father of the Zombie Film, Dies at 77

2:35 PM PDT 7/16/2017 by Mike Barnes


(https://moviesfilmsandflix.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/georgeromero.jpg)


George A. Romero, the legendary writer-director from Pittsburgh who made the 1968 cult classic Night of the Living Dead for $114,000, thus spawning an unrelenting parade of zombie movies and TV shows, has died. He was 77.

Romero, who put out five other zombie movies after a copyright blunder cost him millions of dollars in profits on his wildly popular first one, died Sunday of lung cancer, his producing partner, Peter Grunwald, told the Los Angeles Times, which first reported the news. Romero's family confirmed his death to the newspaper as well.

Romero's manager, Chris Roe, posted on Facebook that the director died while "listening to the score of The Quiet Man, one of his all-time favorite films, with his wife, Suzanne Desrocher Romero, and daughter, Tina Romero, at his side. He died peacefully in his sleep following a brief but aggressive battle with lung cancer and leaves behind a loving family, many friends and a filmmaking legacy that has endured, and will continue to endure, the test of time."

Romero's 1978 sequel Dawn of the Dead was made for $1.5 million and grossed $55 million. He followed that by writing and directing Day of the Dead (1985), Land of the Dead (2005), Diary of the Dead (2007) and Survival of the Dead (2009), a decomposing body of work that earned him the nickname Father of the Zombie Film.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/george-a-romero-dead-night-living-dead-director-was-77-945346
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on July 16, 2017, 07:31:18 PM
Martin Landau too.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on July 16, 2017, 11:23:26 PM
The Oscar-Winning Actor Martin Landau Has Died Aged 89

(LOS ANGELES) — Martin Landau, the chameleon-like actor who gained fame as the crafty master of disguise in the 1960s TV show Mission: Impossible, then capped a long and versatile career with an Oscar for his poignant portrayal of aging horror movie star Bela Lugosi in 1994's Ed Wood, has died. He was 89.
Landau died Saturday of unexpected complications during a short stay at UCLA Medical Center, his publicist Dick Guttman said.


http://time.com/4860281/martin-landau-actor-died/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on July 17, 2017, 03:24:00 PM
Darn. Back in college we seldom missed an episode of Mission Impossible on Sunday nights.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 18, 2017, 11:21:43 AM
"Your mission, Mr. Phelps, should you choose to accept it. ..."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 20, 2017, 11:40:23 AM
I am very, very sorry to hear that John McCain has a brain tumor, and not only a brain tumor but a glioblastoma, a particularly aggressive tumor. (I read about that often in my work, so I didn't need a TV news talker to tell me that about McCain's tumor.)

Despite his ill-advised, ill-managed run at the Presidency with Sarah "I can see Russia from house" Palin, and his Republicn Party affiliation, I've always felt that John McCain was a person of real integrity, and I'm not ashamed to say this news makes me really, really sad.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 21, 2017, 10:21:45 AM

On one news story that was mentioning this I did a double take when they said
his mother was visiting him. She's 105!  He is 80 years old, I believe.
 
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on July 21, 2017, 11:31:09 AM
Wow! I hadn't heard about that!

Long-lived stock!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on July 22, 2017, 11:28:11 AM
'Home Alone' and 'Sopranos' actor John Heard dead at 71

John Heard, known for his memorable roles in the "Home Alone" movies and "The Sopranos," died on Friday, the Santa Clara County medical examiner’s office confirmed to ABC News. Heard was 71, the medical examiner said.

Heard's rep did not immediately respond to ABC News' request for comment, and the details of his death remain unknown.

Born John Matthew Heard in Washington, D.C., the actor was known for his many television and film roles, which spanned four decades.

He launched his career with a role in a 1974 off-Broadway production of "The Wager." Heard then appeared in a series of stage roles on Broadway, including his Obie Award-winning performance in "Othello" in 1979.


https://www.yahoo.com/gma/home-alone-sopranos-actor-john-heard-dead-71-143504310--abc-news-celebrities.html
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 22, 2017, 01:22:11 PM
'Home Alone' and 'Sopranos' actor John Heard dead at 71
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/home-alone-sopranos-actor-john-heard-dead-71-143504310--abc-news-celebrities.html

Thanks for the link. I'm afraid I've always confused the Heards and the Hurts.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on July 22, 2017, 02:28:14 PM
John Heard
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNzczODkyNzY4OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTU0NjQzMQ@@._V1_UY317_CR24,0,214,317_AL_.jpg)

John Hurt
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTM1NTgyMTAyOV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTE4MjQwNA@@._V1_UY317_CR5,0,214,317_AL_.jpg)

William Hurt
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/60/William_Hurt_%282005%29_crop.jpg/330px-William_Hurt_%282005%29_crop.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on July 22, 2017, 02:35:16 PM
I am very, very sorry to hear that John McCain has a brain tumor, and not only a brain tumor but a glioblastoma, a particularly aggressive tumor. (I read about that often in my work, so I didn't need a TV news talker to tell me that about McCain's tumor.)

Despite his ill-advised, ill-managed run at the Presidency with Sarah "I can see Russia from house" Palin, and his Republicn Party affiliation, I've always felt that John McCain was a person of real integrity, and I'm not ashamed to say this news makes me really, really sad.

I am too, Jeff. It is very sad news. Even though our politics are not on the same path, he is one of the true heroes of this country and he will be missed. I hope he can win this battle.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on July 22, 2017, 02:37:04 PM
John Heard
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNzczODkyNzY4OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTU0NjQzMQ@@._V1_UY317_CR24,0,214,317_AL_.jpg)

John Hurt
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTM1NTgyMTAyOV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTE4MjQwNA@@._V1_UY317_CR5,0,214,317_AL_.jpg)

William Hurt
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/60/William_Hurt_%282005%29_crop.jpg/330px-William_Hurt_%282005%29_crop.jpg)

That's genuinely a big help, Linda!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on July 22, 2017, 02:55:34 PM
I am glad, Sara. William Hurt is the only one still alive now.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 22, 2017, 03:15:52 PM
I am glad, Sara. William Hurt is the only one still alive now.

That's just about what I was going to say. If I think of The Big Chill I should be able to remember him.

When I think of John Hurt, I always think of the young man who turns against Sir Thomas More in A Man for All Seasons.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: brian on July 22, 2017, 03:23:37 PM
Our national elections are on September 23. Election hoardings were only allowed to be put up yesterday and must be all down by midnight on Sept 22. TV and radio advertisements are not allowed until August 23 but there have been news items as party policies have been announced. There must be no election comment on radio or TV on the day of the elections until polls close at 6pm. I have had one brochure in my letterbox which went straight in the recycling even though it came from my local member who will get my electorate vote anyway. So far no phone calls, do not know the laws about them. I have actually blocked all advertising calls on my phone but cannot block charity or election calls and unfortunately calls from overseas are common these days.
Two months of electioneering every 3 years are more than enough, I could not stand living in the USA.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 23, 2017, 10:48:24 AM
^^^
I'd agree with you if you said "I could not stand the way the US elections unfold,"
but what you did write felt insulting, or maybe you meant it that way, too? I hope
our current White House occupant's style isn't rubbing off on the rest of the world.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on July 23, 2017, 11:51:10 AM
I found it insulting as well.

I think the world, or at least the leaders he has met so far, consider trump a buffoon, albeit a potentiality dangerous one...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on July 23, 2017, 11:57:17 AM
I love trump's pick for communications director!  One of the Cnn talking heads, after playing the clip from Friday of Scarramucci at the mic said "I can only think of Sade's song Smooth Operator...no kidding.  He did 30 minutes with Jake Tapper this morning,  and it was close but Scaramucci 1, Tapper .5

I really wish he was going to be press secretary, I can't stand SHS
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on July 23, 2017, 12:23:22 PM
^^^
I'd agree with you if you said "I could not stand the way the US elections unfold,"
but what you did write felt insulting, or maybe you meant it that way, too? I hope
our current White House occupant's style isn't rubbing off on the rest of the world.

From the context, I just took Brian's post to mean the length of time it takes to build up to US elections. No need to feel insulted, I'd have thought?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on July 23, 2017, 12:29:01 PM
It's like saying "I can't stand the monarchy, I couldn't stand to live in the UK "....
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 23, 2017, 01:16:10 PM
From the context, I just took Brian's post to mean the length of time it takes to build up to US elections. No need to feel insulted, I'd have thought?

Maybe, I'll see what Brian says.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 23, 2017, 01:16:26 PM
I love trump's pick for communications director!  One of the Cnn talking heads, after playing the clip from Friday of Scarramucci at the mic said "I can only think of Sade's song Smooth Operator...no kidding.  He did 30 minutes with Jake Tapper this morning,  and it was close but Scaramucci 1, Tapper .5

I really wish he was going to be press secretary, I can't stand SHS

I find Scaramucci to be the dictionary definition of a douchebag. He's just like Trump himself.

I happened to see this half-hour and when Jake Tapper asked why he was denying meetings with
Russians took place with the campaign, A.S. replies, "I didn't see that take place."

What kind of an answer is that? I didn't see it therefore it's not true?

You're not starting to fall for the Trump glitter are you?  The "razzle dazzle"? Like the Chicago song:

Give 'em the old three ring circus, stun and stagger 'em
When you're in trouble, go into your dance
Give 'em an act with lots of flash in it
And the reaction will be passionate
Then you've got a romance

Give 'em the old Razzle Dazzle; Razzle dazzle 'em
Show 'em the first rate sorcerer you are
Long as you keep 'em way off balance
How can they spot you've got no talents?
Razzle Dazzle 'em and they'll make you a star!

What if your hinges all are rusting?
What if, in fact, you're just disgusting?
Razzle dazzle 'em and they'll never catch wise!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Sara B on July 23, 2017, 01:18:35 PM
It's like saying "I can't stand the monarchy, I couldn't stand to live in the UK "....

LOL It's nothing like that!

I've learnt from being on this forum, where we are relying on the written word, that if there are two ways of reading what someone has said, it's far better to start by taking the more positive one. :)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on July 23, 2017, 01:29:19 PM
I find Scaramucci to be the dictionary definition of a douchebag. He's just like Trump himself.

I happened to see this half-hour and when Jake Tapper asked why he was denying meetings with
Russians took place with the campaign, A.S. replies, "I didn't see that take place."

What kind of an answer is that? I didn't see it therefore it's not true?


I think he's amusing to watch but I'm not fooled by him...and not at all drifting to the alt-right...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on July 23, 2017, 01:39:04 PM
Terrible story from San Antonio, 90 miles south of Austin...8 bodies were found inside a sweltering tractor -trailer in a Walmsrt parking lot...30 taken to the hospital...the driver has been arested and they're trying to find the smugglers...it was 100* here yesterday...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on July 23, 2017, 03:56:18 PM
From the context, I just took Brian's post to mean the length of time it takes to build up to US elections. No need to feel insulted, I'd have thought?

That's the way i took it as well. Though I can't blame Americans for being overly sensitive these days considering what they' have to deal with.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 24, 2017, 09:45:55 AM
I found it insulting as well.

Ditto.

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 26, 2017, 07:52:48 AM
I guess it just gets worser and worser, don't it?

Now I've seen a sound byte of the Great Satan claiming he can be (or was it, "he is"?) more presidential than anyone except Abraham Lincoln.

Has anyone seen him doing this? Fat chance!

A few years ago, the Boy Scouts of America got into a dust-up with the City of Philadelphia that dragged on for a very long time. The Scouts rented a city-owned property, and the city wanted them out because of their stance on gay Scouts and Scout leaders. So I'm not particularly a fan (I was a Cub Scout for a couple of years, but I never went any further than that). Nevertheless, the speech the Great Satan gave at the Scout Jamboree was so way out of line that it was in the next state.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 26, 2017, 12:39:48 PM
Trump's blather in front of the scouts at the Boy Scouts Jamboree in West Virginia
the other day was just appalling. That man is such a, well you said "Great Satan" and
why not? He's a pathetic human being and I hesitate in even giving him that much credit.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 26, 2017, 01:41:34 PM
That man is such a, well you said "Great Satan" and
why not?

I semi-borrowed that from Cellardweller Chuck. He suggested "Satan." I just added the "Great," but I think I'll keep it.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 26, 2017, 02:48:21 PM

(http://gaysfortrump.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Donald-Trump-Tweet-LGBT-Community-600x375.png)

Trump on the campaign trail in 2016:

He said he would be a strong defender of the LGBT community -- and even claimed he would be a better president for LGBT Americans than his opponent, Hillary Clinton. "I will tell you who the better friend is, me, and some day I believe that will be proven out big league," Trump said.

Prominent supporter of Trump: Caitlin Jenner

A few months ago:
Trump reversed an Obama administration policy allowing transgender students to use the bathroom of their choice.

So:
President Obama had instated a policy initially approved by the Defense Department, which was still under final review, that would allow transgender individuals to openly serve in the military. Defense Secretary James Mattis announced last month that he was delaying enactment of the plan to begin allowing transgender individuals to join the US military.

Today from Trump: "The United States Government will not accept or allow Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military. Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail."

Of course, the decision came without a plan in place to implement it. And the White House has no answer to the question "What would happen to the active transgender military members already in place?"

Also, the "tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail" is not born out by the  2016 Rand Corp. study commissioned by the Defense Department that concluded that letting transgender people serve openly would have a "minimal impact" on readiness and health care costs, largely because there are so few in the military's 1.3 million-member force. The study put the number of transgender people in the military between 1,320 and 6,630.

From the ACLU:  This decision is "outrageous and desperate" and said it was exploring ways to fight the policy shift. "Let us be clear. This has been studied extensively, and the consensus is clear: There are no cost or military readiness drawbacks associated with allowing trans people to fight for their country. The President is trying to score cheap political points on the backs of military personnel who have put their lives on the line for their country."

(https://cdn.unicornbooty.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/17202424/lgbt-page-removed-from-white-house-website-th-1-350x350.jpg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 26, 2017, 02:50:34 PM

Hope all these people are happy.

http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/53/56/74/11464452/3/920x1240.jpg

http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160614205305-donald-trump-is-the-most-pro-gay-republican-nominee-ever-large-169.jpg

https://lgbtqnation-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/2017/03/Gays-For-Trump-500x347.jpg

http://gaysfortrump.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/gays4trumpnyt.png

http://media.com/media/2016/11/slack-imgs.com_.jpeg (http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/11/slack-imgs.com_.jpeg)

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-536f57c39ad26b500c0f975f39d68148
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 27, 2017, 02:19:37 PM
Trump's Justice Department Argues Landmark Civil Rights Law Doesn't Protect Gay People
DOJ files amicus brief that says Title VII does not protect sexual orientation
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/politics/doj-amicus-brief-title-vii-sexual-orientation/index.html

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 27, 2017, 02:20:22 PM
^^^

Hope all these people are happy.

http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/53/56/74/11464452/3/920x1240.jpg

http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160614205305-donald-trump-is-the-most-pro-gay-republican-nominee-ever-large-169.jpg

https://lgbtqnation-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/2017/03/Gays-For-Trump-500x347.jpg

http://gaysfortrump.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/gays4trumpnyt.png

http://media.com/media/2016/11/slack-imgs.com_.jpeg (http://media.breitbart.com/media/2016/11/slack-imgs.com_.jpeg)

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-536f57c39ad26b500c0f975f39d68148
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on July 28, 2017, 04:55:43 PM
Mike Rogers on CNN said watching all the churn in the trump white house is like watching an octopus put his socks on in the morning...


never knew they wore socks...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on July 28, 2017, 04:58:48 PM
I like that A LOT!!!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on July 28, 2017, 05:09:15 PM
Great!

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 29, 2017, 11:12:17 AM

In One Day, Trump Administration Lands 3 Punches Against Gay Rights
JULY 27, 2017 / New York Times

WASHINGTON — The Trump administration abruptly waded into the culture wars over gay rights this week, signaling in three separate actions that it will use the powers of the federal government to roll back civil rights for gay and transgender people.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/us/politics/white-house-lgbt-rights-military-civil-rights-act.html

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 29, 2017, 11:30:46 AM

From NY Magazine:

[This week] we were subjected to the spectacle of the president going to the Boy Scout jamboree, of all places, and delivering a series of partisan jabs, campaign-rally catcalls, and completely inappropriate personal ramblings to a crowd of thousands of boys. The speech was, in some ways, a metaphor for everything Trump is and has done. He took a regular, civil, apolitical American gathering of mainly children and turned it into a diatribe of deranged and nakedly partisan narcissism. He is actively despoiling our civic culture.
___

Boy Scouts Apologize Over President Trump's Remarks at Jamboree
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/27/us/boy-scouts-trump-apology.html

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on July 31, 2017, 05:01:09 PM
Well, that was fast...SNL didn't even have time to find a comedian to play him...


Scaramucci Out as Communications Director After Less Than a Week

WASHINGTON — After less than a week on the job, Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci is out, the White House announced on Monday.

The sudden and unexpected departure is just the latest in a series of stunning staff shakeups in the administration, with new Chief of Staff John Kelly being sworn in on Monday morning, replacing Reince Priebus, who was pushed out last week.

With just six days on the job, Scaramucci is the shortest-serving communications director in White House history.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/scaramucci-out-communications-director-after-less-two-weeks-n788231 (http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/scaramucci-out-communications-director-after-less-two-weeks-n788231)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on July 31, 2017, 05:25:29 PM
^^^Comic Mario Cantone must be heartbroken. He played the Mooch (hilariously) on Comedy Central's The President Show.  Here's a prescient interview where he says "you gotta strike when the iron is hot, who knows how long he's going to be there."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS56-LHbFg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS56-LHbFg)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 01, 2017, 07:13:06 AM
This whole situation makes me think of the front door to my building. It's revolving. ...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 01, 2017, 03:16:04 PM

Police in Newport, Oregon, were called after cat lurking in tree appeared to be holding assault rifle.

(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ECzbYYmxr50/0.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECzbYYmxr50
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on August 01, 2017, 05:10:36 PM
This whole situation makes me think of the front door to my building. It's revolving. ...

 makes me think of a clown car...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 01, 2017, 06:09:39 PM
makes me think of a clown car...

Well, there are certainly plenty of clowns to go around.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on August 01, 2017, 08:49:58 PM
Except this one is funny!

https://youtu.be/cG4CEr2aiSg
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: fritzkep on August 02, 2017, 02:53:13 PM
:D :D :D

Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: oilgun on August 02, 2017, 07:12:13 PM
Except this one is funny!

https://youtu.be/cG4CEr2aiSg

That was adorable!
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: killersmom on August 02, 2017, 07:21:24 PM
That was adorable!

It's good to have a laugh nowadays! ;D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 05, 2017, 07:05:22 PM
Fake news site posts that North Korea’s Kim Jong Un is dead for second time in a month

By Joshua Gillin on Friday, August 4th, 2017

A fake news story that said North Korean leader Kim Jong Un was killed in a coordinated, nationwide strike by U.S. forces under cover of darkness comes from a shopworn website known for churning out fabricated stories.

"Report: Kim Jong Un killed in (President Donald) Trump’s overnight black op attack on North Korea," read the headline on a July 28, 2017, ArmyUSANews.com post. Facebook users flagged the post as being potentially fabricated, as part of the social media site’s efforts to curb fake news.

The story said that 17 SEAL teams struck multiple targets, and that "in three hours time, the entire military infrastructure of that country has been eliminated," according to a reporter. Kim was reportedly killed, although state media played a "death to America" speech recorded years ago, the article said.

Kim Jong Un’s death has not been reported widely because this coordinated attack did not happen. The story is fake. (The photo showing a North Korean city on fire is actually a British hospital burning.)

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2017/aug/04/blog-posting/fake-news-site-posts-north-koreas-kim-jong-un-dead/
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 05, 2017, 07:07:41 PM
President Trump settles in for 17-day vacation at his secluded New Jersey club

By John Wagner and Elise Viebeck August 5


BEDMINSTER, N.J. — President Trump, who knocked his predecessor’s work ethic and said he probably wouldn’t take vacations as president, has settled in for 17 days here at his secluded golf club in New Jersey’s fox-hunt and horse country.

Aides are billing Trump’s time at one of his favorite properties as a “working vacation,” a notion bolstered by his arrival on Air Force One on Friday with a retinue of aides, including his newly minted chief of staff, John F. Kelly.

With the Russia investigation gaining steam and looming crises in North Korea and other hot spots, no one expects a truly quiet couple of weeks.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-trump-settles-in-for-17-day-vacation-at-his-secluded-new-jersey-club/2017/08/05/5c79347c-79d5-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?utm_term=.b33251e4e757
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 08, 2017, 07:14:13 AM
So, we're not advocating regime change, and Tillerson is willing to talk to the North Koreans. Who on earth does the man think he's fooling? Himself?

It's very clear what's going on here. Life in North Korea is abysmal for ordinary people, so how do you get them to forget their misery and keep yourself in power? You give them a common enemy to fear and hate with a passion. The U.S. is always good for that.

The North Korean regime has nothing to gain by talking to anybody, and everything to gain by continuing to blackmail the rest of the world. I mean, the regime has everything to gain by continuing its nuclear program and threats: To keep itself in power.

So what do we do? Wait till a nuclear bomb falls on Anchorage? Seattle? San Francisco? L.A.? Denver? Chicago?  I think I heard somewhere that they're now capable of hitting the East Coast, so I'd better include Washington, Philadelphia (that would take me out), and New York City in that list.

I'd suggest bombing the North Koreans back into the Stone Age, but I know that would lead to harm for untold numbers of our allies in the region, not to mention innocent North Korean civilians. China wouldn't much like it, either.

Do we send in the SEALs, like we did to take out Osama bin Laden? (I'm not necessarily advocating that, just thinkin' out loud.)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on August 08, 2017, 11:02:37 AM
if we don't strike first, that might be a grave (literally) mistake
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 08, 2017, 11:17:04 AM
No, Donald Trump’s base is not ‘far bigger and stronger than ever before’

By James Hohmann August 8

President Trump is clearly rankled by the notion that his political support is slipping, pushing back against the idea during a barrage of tweets Monday from his Bedminster, N.J., golf club, where aides said he is having a “working vacation.”

In fact, as his overall approval rate has sunk, some of the president’s core supporters have soured on his performance, polls show. A Quinnipiac University poll last week found 23 percent of registered voters “strongly approve” of Trump’s handling of his job, down from 29 percent who felt that way during his first week in office. Even white voters with no college degree — one of the demographics that backed his candidacy most enthusiastically — disapprove of how Trump is handling his job by 50 percent to 43 percent.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2017/08/08/daily-202-no-donald-trump-s-base-is-not-far-bigger-and-stronger-than-ever-before/5989138230fb045fdaef1196/?utm_term=.d0bf0c4fe60e
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 08, 2017, 11:20:32 AM
if we don't strike first, that might be a grave (literally) mistake

For a great many people.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 08, 2017, 12:07:30 PM

The experts say that NK is 2-3 years away from being able to "combine all the elements" to
carry out a scenario like the one discussed above.  So, in the meantime what do we do? Both
countries have mental patients at the head of them. And the U.S. actually CHOSE the one we
have, the Commander-in-Tweet.


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 08, 2017, 01:37:44 PM
The experts say that NK is 2-3 years away from being able to "combine all the elements" to
carry out a scenario like the one discussed above.  So, in the meantime what do we do? Both
countries have mental patients at the head of them. And the U.S. actually CHOSE the one we
have, the Commander-in-Tweet.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Who are the experts? Not doubting here, just wondering who they are. People in the DOD?
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 08, 2017, 01:39:06 PM
No, Donald Trump’s base is not ‘far bigger and stronger than ever before’

The emperor has no clothes.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on August 08, 2017, 05:12:44 PM
The experts say that NK is 2-3 years away from being able to "combine all the elements" to
carry out a scenario like the one discussed above.  So, in the meantime what do we do? Both
countries have mental patients at the head of them. And the U.S. actually CHOSE the one we
have, the Commander-in-Tweet.

Hmmmm...maybe not

North Korea seriously considering strike on Guam, state media says
46 Mins Ago
Reuters

North Korea said on Wednesday it is "carefully examining" a plan to strike the U.S. Pacific territory of Guam with missiles, just hours after U.S. President Donald Trump told the North that any threat to the United States would be met with "fire and fury".

A spokesman for the Korean People's Army, in a statement carried by the North's state-run KCNA news agency, said the strike plan will be "put into practice in a multi-current and consecutive way any moment" once leader Kim Jong Un makes a decision.


https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/08/north-korea-seriously-considering-strike-on-guam-reports-citing-state-media.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/08/north-korea-seriously-considering-strike-on-guam-reports-citing-state-media.html)




Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on August 08, 2017, 05:13:51 PM
North Korea makes a nuclear weapon that can fit in its missiles, US intelligence says

North Korea has produced a nuclear weapon that can fit inside its missiles, according to NBC and The Washington Post.

The report follows the U.N. Security Council unanimously putting new sanctions on the isolated nation.

North Korea has successfully created a miniaturized nuclear weapon designed to fit inside its missiles, NBC News confirmed Tuesday, citing a U.S. intelligence official.

The Washington Post first reported the development Tuesday, citing a confidential intelligence assessment.


https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/08/north-korea-reportedly-makes-a-nuclear-weapon-that-can-fit-in-its-missiles.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/08/north-korea-reportedly-makes-a-nuclear-weapon-that-can-fit-in-its-missiles.html)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 08, 2017, 06:37:31 PM
I heard that, too, on network TV news this evening. So I guess those experts were wrong. Let's just hope it's not dead wrong.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 09, 2017, 09:51:33 AM
Hmmmm...maybe not

Maybe, but also keep in mind that the news media likes fear based stories because
it gets ratings. Like escaped prisoners, any particular disease (like last years Zika
virus invasion-whatever happened to that?), Middle Eastern immigrants, etc. In the
70's it was the march of the killer bees up to the U.S. from South America.  For a
sizeable group last year it was (and still is) Hillary Clinton.


Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 09, 2017, 10:15:30 AM
Maybe, but also keep in mind that the news media likes fear based stories because
it gets ratings.

Are you implying that the North Korean nuclear missile situation is Fake News? Maybe from the failing New York Times?   ;)   ;D
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 09, 2017, 10:59:54 AM
In the 70's it was the march of the killer bees up to the U.S. from South America.

I was a kid then, and I remember those stories.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 09, 2017, 11:15:00 AM
Are you implying that the North Korean nuclear missile situation is Fake News? Maybe from the failing New York Times?   ;)   ;D

Heh, of course not, just that the media likes to get viewers by scaring them.  If you ever notice,
when local stations are in sweeps months for ratings they always have local stories about the things
that might scare you. The dangers lurking in your back yard.  Your car will malfunction. Nasty restaurants.

ABC did a study once saying that people that are the most fearful of things watch more news than those
who are not as fearful about things. Hmmm...
 
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on August 09, 2017, 12:11:07 PM
I'm watching CNN and surfing the net for bunker installation and freeze dried food...
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 09, 2017, 12:47:28 PM
I'm watching CNN and surfing the net for bunker installation and freeze dried food...

I should see what's available at our local sporting goods/military surplus store.

I know they carry MREs. Or they used to, anyway.

Meanwhile I'm practicing "duck and cover."
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: morrobay on August 10, 2017, 06:37:56 AM
this should embarrass dt...talk about crowd size...

(https://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2017_32/2115186/170810-pyongyang-demo-mc-09-21_2_67ab51516c7b1c709f4cc1f0ec818d15.nbcnews-ux-600-480.jpg)

Pyongyang city mass rally held at Kim Il Sung Square to fully support the statement of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) government in this photo released on August 10, 2017 by North Korea's Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) in Pyongyang. KCNA / Reuters

The images were released by North Korean state media KCNA. NBC News was unable to independently verify the date they were shot
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 10, 2017, 10:44:13 AM
Here are three stories that all follow each other, so that's why I put them in one post.



Mitch McConnell vents about Trump's 'excessive expectations'

ALI ROGIN  Tuesday, August 08, 2017 03:17PM


Speaking at a Rotary Club gathering in Kentucky on Monday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell vented about how President Donald Trump's lack of political experience has led to him setting "excessive expectations" for legislative priorities.

McConnell, R-Ky., told the group in Florence that he found it "extremely irritating" that Congress has earned the reputation of not accomplishing anything.

"Part of the reason I think that the storyline is that we haven't done much is because, in part, the president and others have set these early timelines about things need to be done by a certain point," said McConnell, a Republican and the state's senior senator.

Trump, a political newcomer, as McConnell noted, has a habit of declaring progress on major priorities that do not necessarily reflect the reality of lawmaking.

http://abc7ny.com/news/mitch-mcconnell-vents-about-trumps-excessive-expectations-/2286363/




Trump defends 'excessive expectations' on healthcare to Mitch McConnell: 'Why not done' after 7 years?

by Anna Giaritelli | Aug 9, 2017, 2:37 PM

President Trump knocked Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Wednesday for saying the former businessman had "excessive expectations" of Congress. "Senator Mitch McConnell said I had 'excessive expectations,' but I don't think so. After 7 years of hearing Repeal & Replace, why not done?" Trump tweeted Wednesday afternoon.

Earlier this week, the Kentucky Republican blamed Trump's unrealistically high expectations for making Congress look like it has not accomplished anything meaningful in 2017.

"Part of the reason I think that the storyline is that we haven't done much is because, in part, the president and others have set these early timelines about things need to be done by a certain point," McConnell told a Rotary Club gathering in Kentucky Monday.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., also dismissed McConnell's blaming Trump on Wednesday.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-defends-excessive-expectations-on-healthcare-to-mitch-mcconnell-why-not-done-after-7-years/article/2631058




Trump’s Spat With Mitch McConnell Widens GOP Divisions

by CHUCK TODD, MARK MURRAY and CARRIE DANN


On Monday morning, we wrote how divided Republicans are six and half months into Trump’s presidency, especially after the GOP-led Senate failed in its effort to repeal and replace Obamacare. Well, things have gotten only more divided since then. Consider:

Vulnerable Sen. Dean Heller, R-Nev., now has a GOP primary challenger in Danny Tarkanian;

Politico reports that one of Trump’s top donors, Robert Mercer, is contributing $300,000 to a Super PAC supporting the Republican challenging incumbent Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz;

Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., said in a radio interview that John McCain’s no-vote on health care might have been due to his brain tumor; Johnson has called his remarks “unfortunate” and “clumsy”;

And maybe in the most significant skirmish to date, President Trump is now going after Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. “Can you believe that Mitch McConnell, who has screamed Repeal & Replace for 7 years, couldn't get it done. Must Repeal & Replace ObamaCare!” Trump tweeted this morning.

That Trump tweet — and an earlier one from Wednesday — came after McConnell criticized Trump's "excessive expectations" on health care.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/trump-s-spat-mitch-mcconnell-widens-gop-divisions-n791411
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 10, 2017, 10:55:40 AM
Mitch McConnell vents about Trump's 'excessive expectations'

ALI ROGIN  Tuesday, August 08, 2017 03:17PM

Speaking at a Rotary Club gathering in Kentucky on Monday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell vented about how President Donald Trump's lack of political experience has led to him setting "excessive expectations" for legislative priorities.

McConnell, R-Ky., told the group in Florence that he found it "extremely irritating" that Congress has earned the reputation of not accomplishing anything.

"Part of the reason I think that the storyline is that we haven't done much is because, in part, the president and others have set these early timelines about things need to be done by a certain point," said McConnell, a Republican and the state's senior senator.

Trump, a political newcomer, as McConnell noted, has a habit of declaring progress on major priorities that do not necessarily reflect the reality of lawmaking.

http://abc7ny.com/news/mitch-mcconnell-vents-about-trumps-excessive-expectations-/2286363/

Never in my life did I think I would ever have anything good to say about Mitch McConnell, but I think he's right on the money here.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 10, 2017, 10:57:18 AM
this should embarrass dt...talk about crowd size...

It won't, though, because of course his crowds were larger. ...  ::)
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 10, 2017, 08:33:09 PM
OK, no joke. This North Korean thing has me seriously worried and scared, as much because of the loose cannon we've got in the White House as because of the North Koreans.
Title: Re: News and Current Events - 2017
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 11, 2017, 09:01:58 AM
Are We on the Brink of Nuclear War with North Korea? Probably Not.

By Anna Fifield August 11 at 9:28 AM


The saber-rattling from both North Korea and the Trump administration has many people worried that the world is on the brink of a nuclear war.

Kim Jong Un’s regime is threatening to fire a missile to land near Guam, the American territory in the Pacific Ocean that is home to two huge U.S. military bases, by the middle of this month. He seems to have the technical capacity to make good on this threat: his regime has made observable progress in its missile program, notably firing two intercontinental ballistic missiles last month theoretically capable of reaching the American mainland.

President Trump has issued tough warnings to North Korea in response. In his latest statement, on Thursday, he warned North Korea that “things will happen to them like they never thought possible” should the isolated country attack the United States or its allies.

There have been many periods of heightened tensions between the two countries over the years, especially in April and August, when South Korea and the United States conducted joint military exercises that North Korea considered preparation for an invasion.

The Washington Post asked a range of experts in both the United