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Title: Gay bashing
Post by: mountain boy on April 23, 2006, 01:55:13 PM
The number of gay bashings is SMALL?

Here are the (albeit limited, due to lack of mandatory reporting) for all states for 2003:

The most recent report for 2003 was released last November (PDF: 14MB/166 pages). The breakdown of hate crime incidents by category for all states looks like this:

Race 3848 51%
Religion 1344 18%
Sexual Orientation 1239 17%
Ethnicity 1026 14%
Disability 33 <1%
TOTAL 7490   

Keep in mind that each incident may include more than one crime. For example, an attack against two victims constitutes two crimes but may be counted as one incident. A rape and assault against one victim would count as two crimes against one victim, yet is counted as only one incident. There were a total of 8,715 individual hate crimes reported for 2003.


You call 1239 gay bashings in a year SMALL?  If you say so.

1239 gay bashings

290,000,000 Americans

A 0.000004% chance of being gay-bashed.  Next to nil.

That's off by 2 decimal points (because of the percent), even if this was the way to do it.

1239/290,000,000 = 0.00043%

But the eligible population is gay people, or better yet people who are known to be gay. If it's gay people, we could start with 6% of the population:

6% of 290,000,000 = 17,400,000 gay people (and we're including gay children and gay babies here)
1239/17,400,000 = 0.0071% of those people get bashed every year

Now if it's adults known to be gay, what do you think? 1 in 5? in that case it's .036%, which means 1 in every 2809 gay people gets bashed every year.

So in a 50-year span from age 20 to age 50, the probability that a gay person will not get bashed is (2808/2809) to the 50th power which is 98.2%.

So the probability of gay person getting bashed between the ages of 20 and 70 is 1.8%

One in 57. And that's just reported hate crimes.

Not so good.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: louisev on April 23, 2006, 02:14:15 PM
the most disheartening thing is that we don't even have good statistics of hate crimes based on sexual orientation since admittedly, the statistics I got from that article reflect 12% of the reports and from all accounts, are most likely underreporting due to the additional detective work involved in finding a hate crime link.  And detectives won't necessarily do this additional work since there is no higher sentencing allowance for hate crimes against gays.  So those numbers are likely QUITE LOW.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 23, 2006, 03:41:20 PM
So in a 50-year span from age 20 to age 50, the probability that a gay person will not get bashed is (2808/2809) to the 50th power which is 98.2%.

So the probability of gay person getting bashed between the ages of 20 and 70 is 1.8%

One in 57. And that's just reported hate crimes.

Not so good.

I'm sure the number goes up if you were to include the incidents that occur on the grounds of high schools.

Much of the abuse I took was being shoved and assaulted in the halls of high school.  Never said anything to anyone.  One memorable moment was a well known bully cornering me in a deserted auditorium after study hall, and let's just say, placing his hands where they didn't belong.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on April 23, 2006, 04:51:29 PM
Here's a little personal reflection on this topic.  From the 70s through last year I've had several incidents that border on 'bashing' - I've been fortunate because I've managed to escape serious harm.

1).  A guy in the dorm room jumped on me - his friends surrounding us and said 'you talk so big about being gay, let's see what you can do for me.'  I rolled him off of me and got out of the room.
2).  Two children (under age 15) threw rocks at me and calling me 'faggot'
3).  A group of men in a car throwing a whiskey bottle at me (which smashed in front of me and called me 'devo faggot' (after a devo concert).
4.)  Another group of men threw a bottle at me and calling me 'faggot' as I rounded the corner to go into my apartment building in East Lansing.
5).  A man pulling a knife on me and calling me 'maricon' as I was on the way home from a club (he was drunk and I was able to get away from him). [in San Francisco]
6).  A couple on a motorcycle drove at me and yelled 'die faggot' as I jumped out of their way in the civic center of S.F.
7).  Another bottle thrown at me with 'faggot' yelled out of the car window (near my apartment in San Francisco).
8).  Two kids on bicycles riding up and down the block hitting me as they went by and yelling 'maricon'.

There are other incidents that border on bashing - last year I had a guy tell me on train - 'You're queer, right?  Next time I see you I'm going to beat you up'.  And I had an incident in Michigan where a pair of guys tried to get me into their car - after telling me that they wanted sex (they were pretty clearly not gay) - I'm pretty sure that the very least they want to do was to drive me out into the country (it was the dead of winter) and leave me.

These are the most direct cases - not just the times when men said things to me like 'what are you looking at' to try and intimidate me or get into fights.

I had a friend (also named Michael) who was shot through the heart in the Castro in 1985.  The killers were never found.

Some of these things may seem trivial - but what they mean over a lifetime is an attempt to stifle your identity and silence you.  It's an ongoing violence to the spirit that grinds at you and colors your view of the world.

It's astounding to me that there are people out there who believe that this doesn't happen, or that it isn't real.  What it reminds me of, more than anything, is what I used to read in feminist theory in the 70s about how men denied women's experience (of being discriminated against, of sexual harrassment, etc.) by just telling them that it was all in their minds.

I realize that living in any big city you face danger (I've been attacked two times that were unrelated to my being gay - and the only time I've ever had anyone connect a homeless man hit me in the back of the head with a rock because he didn't like the way I looked at him).  But it also seems true to me that there is something more happening here.  When you cross gender lines and are seen as being at all vulnerable related to sexuality you face being picked out.  It's an gender and sexuality enforcement strategy, whether or not it's conscious or planned.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Garry_LH on April 23, 2006, 05:17:39 PM
Stats on gay bashing are nearly worthless. Just from the folks I've talked to, I would say well over ninety percent of all men being assaulted, because someone thought they were gay, are never reported. A lot of this is due to fear of publicity, loosing one's job and the like. The other shoe amounts to the fact a lot of county sheriffs don't bother with some fag getting beat up. Well... unless it's some one from a family with power. And then, the gay part tends to disappear in a plea bargain. As far as sexual abuse goes, I've only known one guy that said he was raped by the highschool football team. He did try to report it, but the school principle said he was just trying to make trouble. The police believed the principle. I believe that was about fifteen years ago in Jeff City. So outside of a handfull of brave souls that are to the point of, I not gonna take it anymore, how would anyone ever achieve anything like valid data to make even a remote guess at the truth?  Until it costs someone whose job it is suppose to be to report crimes against gay folks, all we'll see are the same arguments gay folks are perfectly safe.  Just so long as somoeone doesn't carve the word fag on someone's chest, it ain't a hate crime, because offically it never happened.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Lola on April 23, 2006, 05:21:58 PM
  When you cross gender lines and are seen as being at all vulnerable related to sexuality you face being picked out.  It's an gender and sexuality enforcement strategy, whether or not it's conscious or planned.

I guess that was my next question, how in the world would anyone know you are gay?  I have gay friends and I know if I saw them on the street (and didn't know they were gay)  I would never think they were gay  ???  The only way "anyone" would know was if they saw them together as a couple.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Garry_LH on April 23, 2006, 05:32:59 PM
Well, the guy I know that was attacked by the highschool fooball team.... that was because his best friend was an out proud color wearing lesbian. They boys made a rather dumb assumption. The last I heard of Dan, he was married and had two kids.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on April 23, 2006, 06:13:01 PM
  When you cross gender lines and are seen as being at all vulnerable related to sexuality you face being picked out.  It's an gender and sexuality enforcement strategy, whether or not it's conscious or planned.

I guess that was my next question, how in the world would anyone know you are gay?  I have gay friends and I know if I saw them on the street (and didn't know they were gay)  I would never think they were gay  ???  The only way "anyone" would know was if they saw them together as a couple.

Well Lola a lot has to do with whether you are 'obvious' (which basically means are you seen as being effeminate).  And basically this has to do with the insecurities of the people who commit this sort of crime.  But they don't always get it right:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/07/28/MN291062.DTL&hw=lesbian+hollister&sn=008&sc=198
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: mountain boy on April 23, 2006, 06:20:58 PM
Here's a little personal reflection on this topic.  From the 70s through last year I've had several incidents that border on 'bashing' ...
:'(    Mouse ... I'm sorry ... I had to say Mouse because your story reminds me of Michael in Armistead Maupin's stories - Tales of the City? Remember the story where Michael's straight friend Brian is being attacked and Michael says "He's not gay!" ...  :'(
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: bibra on April 23, 2006, 06:22:18 PM
Bashing will never stop.  Boys and some Men bash just for the sheer pleasure of it.

Being gay is just one of the many excuses used to bash.  Football hooliganism was rife in the UK and bashing was a major part of that. 

I am ashamed to admit this about my countrymen but just recently in Australia some thousands of people descended on the beach to bash a group of Lebanese guys. They had gathered via sms messsages on  mobile phones.  The idiots perceived the Lebanese guys to be a threat to" our Aussie culture".  Rubbish of course. They did not manage to actually bash anybody as the police descended on the beach and arrested the more troublesome offenders.  They were harshly dealt with by the courts and some had to serve time in jail.  The next day a group of Lebanese bashed up a lone guy just walking along a pavement and this was caught on a street camera. Tit for tat and just plain stupid behavior. 

Most Australians were outraged by both incidents.
 
As long as boys have testosterone running through their veins at a pace they cannot handle they will use any excuse to bash someone and the disgusting thing about it is they do it in cowardly packs. 

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Lola on April 23, 2006, 06:49:37 PM

Well Lola a lot has to do with whether you are 'obvious' (which basically means are you seen as being effeminate).  And basically this has to do with the insecurities of the people who commit this sort of crime.  But they don't always get it right:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/07/28/MN291062.DTL&hw=lesbian+hollister&sn=008&sc=198


Well that just has to be the most bizzare thing I have ever read.  :'(  And imagine using as their defence, "well we thought he was gay"  What the hell does that say about them?   >:(  That poor man.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dsmom on April 23, 2006, 07:38:34 PM
Of course I dont  remember the name of the town but here in mid Texas there is a small town that was in the news just recently...

There was a young gay man who was charging a powerful, wealthy man with sexually abusing him when he was in school...the police say there is nothing they can do because of the statute of limitations...I just remember that the boy (young man now) at a school board meeting (the man sits on the board) screaming at this man and the police arresting the young man...charging him with something...and they were interviewing a woman in town that said she remembered there was something strange going on and she wished she had spoke up and helped the boy...

It still bothers me...that poor young man...wanting so badly to get justice...no hope of getting it.. but still bravely standing and facing his abuser only to be knocked down and arrested...him not the rapist...
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: mountain boy on April 23, 2006, 07:40:13 PM
The victim's girlfriend isn't helping much...     :-\

"There was not a homosexual bone in that boy's body," said Oldham's girlfriend of nine years, Saundra Muncy, 38, of Fairfax.

Oldham's friends are angry over what they call a defense ploy, saying Rikard and Appley are falsely claiming that they believed Oldham was gay so that they might avoid a possible death sentence.

"That's what I would have told my client to save (his) life," said Muncy, the victim's girlfriend, a criminal defense paralegal in Sausalito.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on April 23, 2006, 11:50:51 PM
Here's a little personal reflection on this topic.  From the 70s through last year I've had several incidents that border on 'bashing' ...
:'(    Mouse ... I'm sorry ... I had to say Mouse because your story reminds me of Michael in Armistead Maupin's stories - Tales of the City? Remember the story where Michael's straight friend Brian is being attacked and Michael says "He's not gay!" ...  :'(

Thanks sugar.  Yep, I remember.  There was another case of a guy being killed in the Folsom district a few years ago by bashers who thought he was gay. 
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: louisev on April 24, 2006, 02:40:40 AM
Okay so now that we seem to have a consensus that assaulting gays is one of the most underreported and widespread crimes you all know about, can someone please explain how anyone on this forum of all places, can say it "hardly ever happens"?  Isn't that what Brokeback Mountain is all about?  The thing that "hardly ever happens" but obviously - does?
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on April 24, 2006, 03:49:38 AM
wow michael --- you've really been the brunt of anti-gay stuff! i'm so sorry to hear that. yes, it's true, big cities are indeed full of stuff like that... it's not just rural areas is it?  living in the bay area i've been exposed to the same type of stuff, less so here in LA, oddly enough. it seems that in SF, many straight people just assume that a guy in SF (gay mecca that it is) that looks different must be gay.... :::sigh:::

that little kids are saying stuff to you like that is especially alarming.... maricon out of the mouths of babes!  yuck.

louise --- of course the statistics are wrong. none of the incidents i experienced were ever reported, and i imagine most "bashings" done to others, unless there's great physical harm done, are even brought to the attention of police.

dsmom --- your story reminds me of a friend, sam, that tried to sue the company he worked for. the boss's son was a real cocky fellow and would come up to sam, grab his ass and mock "hump" him, saying "i'm gonna f**k your sweet a**" and stuff like that. he would call him names (fag, etc.) and the harassment was relentless. sam is a married man, btw, and very masculine, so i don't get it. the boss's son just had a grudge against him, i suppose.

anyway, after a few weeks of this he tried to sue the guy. sam lived in a small town here in california and was basically laughed at by everybody, saying he should be a good sport about it, that the cocky guy was only "joking."  sam wanted to pursue the case but he lost his will due to the lack of support he got, at his workplace, by his family (who felt it was embarrassing, i guess), and even his lawyer, who wasn't enthusiastic about the case and suggested he drop it. of course he should have gotten a new lawyer, but the fact is sam soon realized that it was going to be a difficult time, and just gave up. sad, really.

as a result he had to leave his job, because after he filed complaints everybody pretty much looked down on him and the harassment took on a different tone.

regarding racist bashings. i feel that when minorities are involved, there isn't enough said. do you think if matthew shepard was black found and tied to a fence in brooklyn, that he'd be so famous? i somehow doubt it. my friend was found hanging from a tree with cigarette burns on his chest, tortured... nothing was said, and he was black. if it's a white person, it seems there's all kinds of concern. look at the girl in aruba or whatever -- she got a big story in vanity fair -- it seems so commoon that if you're young, pretty and white, it's big news. meanwhile, people of color and gays are killed and not much is said. no, the other people are not important, at least that's what it seems like they want us to think. brushed under the rug, as usual....

bibra --- well yeah. it's hard times right now for a lot of people living (and trying to love) in this world, but i wouldn't blame all of it on testosterone in men and boys. we have to realize that the mothers (and fathers) that raise these boys have a lot to do with their attitudes. the little boys that called michael "maricon" might have learned those words from their mother. perhaps she used that word around them. i know mothers and sisters that have called their own children "faggot" and other hateful names.. so, it goes beyond testosterone, IMO. it's upbringing, and culture, and some of these same people are so damn proud of their hateful beliefs... they spread it around like butter.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on April 24, 2006, 04:08:35 AM
i'd like to bring up gaybashing in the media and advertising.

tonight at the movies there was an ad for some TV show on lifetime or some other channel. there's a scene where they talk about showing off family photos of your kids. the father of the child is at work standing at the urinals next to a coworker, and says something like, "i've got something really amazing to show you."

the next scene is the father is standing there with a black eye...  (huge laughs from the audience.)

what it does is make a joke of gay bashing, of being gay. the producers of this bit wanted to incite humor by saying that if you are even mistaken for being gay, you'll get beat up, and "ha ha ha" isn't that funny?

this sort of gay "humor" is rampant in the media. it's gaybashing, IMO. it's telling viewers that gay is bad, or at least a joke, and that it's okay to make fun of gays and to bash them. and it's not just on TV, it's on radio and print advertising as well.

i suppose it is much like the sexist tv ads that women despise so much. if we complain, we're not good sports. if we call for change, they say we are whining. but other groups can protest a company's attachment to something "gay"  and businesses will comply to their demands. it's no wonder hollywood actors don't admit to being gay -- they know that by doing so the will get bashed in their professional life and personal life as well.

i know humor is a way of dealing with misfortune, but this kind of media gaybashing is twisted. the way prison rape is treated is often a big joke in the media. the "don't drop the soap" and "prison boyfriend" jokes abound, but the reality is that men in prison can be brutally raped and even killed during these attacks, and it's not funny at all.

but in the outside world, many people, including advertising media and television scriptwriters, think it's something to laugh about. and most of america, is seems, agrees.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Casper on April 24, 2006, 07:29:23 AM
I liked the segment on "Queer As Folk" where the Pink Posse was created to avenge victims of gay bashing.  They gave those bullies a taste of their own medicine.  :D
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: mountain boy on April 24, 2006, 07:51:00 AM
Okay so now that we seem to have a consensus that assaulting gays is one of the most underreported and widespread crimes you all know about, can someone please explain how anyone on this forum of all places, can say it "hardly ever happens"?  Isn't that what Brokeback Mountain is all about?  The thing that "hardly ever happens" but obviously - does?
I wonder if it's a well-intended (but misleading) thing, meaning to say "don't stay in the closet for fear of gay-bashing, because not everybody gets beat up"  ....

On the other hand there are gays who are self-righteous about bashing anything they see as the "gay agenda."

I guess I'm self-righteous about the self-righteous!   :D
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on April 24, 2006, 08:54:06 PM
i dunno if this is gaybashing or what. but it's something.

late one evening my BF and i went to dave's diner in oakland, california. two cops were in the back room eating. lemon, a well-loved vietnamese waitress, seated us in a nearby booth, close to an overhead television playing saturday night live, and david bowie was the music guest... this was the mid 80's or so.

the cops had seen us come in, and who knows, maybe they thought we were gay. was it because we sat in the same side of the booth? that's a tip, i guess, but the fact is we wanted to watch SNL together, so it was easier to face the screen.

it wasn't a big deal to us, and while it was early and just us and the cops, the diner would soon fill with young and old kids after a night out on the town. both gay and straight, black and white, a good mix (often better than the food, heh). a gay bar was nearby, so the diner often filled with gay men, and so, we felt comfortable sitting like that. you know, the way straight couples sit together sometimes, just so they can be close to each other. but my BF and i weren't hand in hand, or kissing. we weren't even touching each other.

but it made the cops uncomfortable. one looked at the other one and gave him a "get a load of that" type of look. both glared at us, shook their heads, laughed.

then when bowie came on the TV, on cop said called him a "faggot.". he were really loud and looked at us when he said it. yeah yeah.. it wasn't a big deal to me, these were good ol' white boys with attitude... it wasn't like we were surprised, and thought i'd get over it.

but it didn't stop there.

the other cop agreed with his friend, and they went on saying they couldn't believe why that "faggot" was popular. went on about the "faggoty ass" music these days. back and forth, on and on, they laughed at their hateful words, even imitating bowie with a falsetto voice.  then, one of them stood up and changed the channel, then stared at us in a challenging manner.

of course, we didn't say a thing and averted his stare. these were oakland cops and we were well aware of their bad repuation, sadly enough... these particular cops were the real "scary monsters" in this situation...

but then lemon came in and cried out, "WHO CHANGE A CHANNEL?"  my lover and i quickly pointed to the cops. she swatted them on the head with menus good naturedly. "HEY NOW, YOU NO TOUCH TV!" she cried, with a big smile on her face. she then hopped on a chair to reach the TV knob.

haha! what could they do? they didn't dare talk back to lemon, she served their food, afterall, and was a fixture in this place with more popularity than they could imagine. they sort of grunted and mumbled a bit, and that's about it.

soon, bowie was back on. lemon even turned up the volume. we got glares from the cops for tattling on them, but with lemon around we almost felt safe, but they had basically ruined the moment for us... thankfully, they were done eating and left, but not without another comment about "fags" on the way out directed to us. oh, you can bet we were on the lookout for them when we finally left the diner an hour or so later. (sad but true.)

to hear two cops so brazenly hateful was frightening... if that's how they speak to each other while eating a meal,,, those anti-gay attitudes could very well be amplified in an adrenaline inducing situation.

it's a good thing not all policemen act like this.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dsmom on April 24, 2006, 10:00:50 PM
Here's the thing...I don't care if it happens a million times a day or once a year....for the person who is hurt and the people who love him ONCE is too DAMN many times...

I HATE this thread...I HATE that there is a NEED for this thread...

I HATE that there are people in this world so lost to anything that is good or just that  can walk among us and we can't even tell the ROT on their souls..

I HATE that I am going to send MY child out into a world that allows this to happen...

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on April 24, 2006, 10:27:14 PM
I HATE that I am going to send MY child out into a world that allows this to happen...

Well, you know Jess, Heidi has her kids in self-defense (and takes it herself too, I think).  I don't think that's a bad idea.  Also, there's a great book 'The Gift of Fear' by Gavin De Becker:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0440226198/sr=8-1/qid=1145939045/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-9759416-7632809?%5Fencoding=UTF8

And another one on kids called 'Protecting the Gift':

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0440509009/ref=pd_bxgy_text_b/002-9759416-7632809?%5Fencoding=UTF8

That are pretty good.

Some of us have been living with terrorism for a long time.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on April 24, 2006, 10:41:34 PM
wow michael --- you've really been the brunt of anti-gay stuff! i'm so sorry to hear that. yes, it's true, big cities are indeed full of stuff like that... it's not just rural areas is it?  living in the bay area i've been exposed to the same type of stuff, less so here in LA, oddly enough. it seems that in SF, many straight people just assume that a guy in SF (gay mecca that it is) that looks different must be gay.... :::sigh:::

that little kids are saying stuff to you like that is especially alarming.... maricon out of the mouths of babes!  yuck.

{snip}

regarding racist bashings. i feel that when minorities are involved, there isn't enough said. do you think if matthew shepard was black found and tied to a fence in brooklyn, that he'd be so famous? i somehow doubt it. my friend was found hanging from a tree with cigarette burns on his chest, tortured... nothing was said, and he was black. if it's a white person, it seems there's all kinds of concern. look at the girl in aruba or whatever -- she got a big story in vanity fair -- it seems so commoon that if you're young, pretty and white, it's big news. meanwhile, people of color and gays are killed and not much is said. no, the other people are not important, at least that's what it seems like they want us to think. brushed under the rug, as usual....

Well...actually the boys who called me 'maricon' were teens - and they didn't disturb me as much as the little kids in Michigan who called me 'fag' and threw rocks at me.  They couldn't have been more that 9 and 11.  That just hurt my heart that they were so hateful so young.

Regarding race, right around the same time Matthew Shephard was killed James Byrd was dragged to death in back of a truck.  Here's a sight that compares the coverage of the two crimes:

http://www.queerday.com/2004/jan/16/coverage_of_james_byrd_matthew_shepard_slayings_compared.html

Seems like you're right.  I think the same sort of thing can be said regarding class and/or economic status.  Think of how long it took to solve the Green River murders:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_River_Killer

The one positive thing I can say is that as you get older people seem to target you less for hate crimes (it's odd, but it seems true).  I think this is because they stop thinking of you as a sexual person.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on April 24, 2006, 10:44:33 PM
i dunno if this is gaybashing or what. but it's something.
{snip}

Sure sounds like bashing to me - or at least an attempt to provoke and intimidate.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on April 24, 2006, 10:54:25 PM
I've put off posting in this thread, although I was aware of what happened in the 'Were They Gay' topic several days ago.  I just read a few pages of the discussion there and I'm probably no less incensed than if I'd read it all the day it was posted.   

From my perspective, having lost someone who had been near and dear to me to a hideous hate crime:

In 1979 a guy who had been near and dear to me was the victim of hate-motivated murder.  He was stabbed in the back and left for dead.  We were not together when it happened - both our lives had moved on.  Autopsy results showed he had drowned in his own blood.  Sounds familiar, doesn't it?   The perps, for whatever reason, moved his body from the murder site and hid it in a more remote area.  I well remember the phone call I received when his body was found - several days after he had died alone in a bar ditch and his body further violated by the move.  The effect of his murder on me was intense and profound and still is.  I was emotionally unable to attend his funeral or even visit his final resting place until the 10th anniversary of his death.  His murderers were arrested, charged, tried and convicted.  They both were executed - some 14 years later.  There has never been, nor do I believe there can be, any sense of 'closure' for me, save his and so many other's story having now been validated to some degree by BBM.   I very infrequently visit the mausoleum where his body rests to leave flowers.  It's a cold, lonely place that holds no answers.  I can only hope that he somehow knows somebody still cares and that he is not forgotten.  I wouldn't wish this grief on anybody.  Jack's death in BBM brought it all back full force and it hasn't been easy, but it is slowly becoming more bearable.     

Glenn I am so sorry for your loss.  As I mentioned, a friend of mine was killed back in 1985 as well.

I understand what you mean about 'closure'.  Because Michael died in 1985 his death was part of a wave of death that I was going through then - it was really hard to sort out the feelings.

Thanks for telling us about this.  I know it's not easy to talk about, but it's important - because people (unfortunately including other gay people) want to deny that it happens.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on April 24, 2006, 10:59:00 PM

Sure sounds like bashing to me - or at least an attempt to provoke and intimidate.

it was abuse of power, and a display of machismo and hate.   nothing new.... :(

sorry i got your attackers mixed up. yes, hearing "fag" and the rocks from nine year olds is pretty damn sad... i've heard it from younger kids. not toward myself, but in blockbuster two boys around five and eight were calling each other "faggot" because of they were fighting over a video game.

what does maricon mean anyway? sounds coconutty ;)  ooops i forgot this is the serious thread.  :-X

thanks for the bryd/shepard and green river links.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on April 24, 2006, 11:08:30 PM

Sure sounds like bashing to me - or at least an attempt to provoke and intimidate.

it was abuse of power, and a display of machismo and hate.   nothing new.... :(

sorry i got your attackers mixed up. yes, hearing "fag" and the rocks from nine year olds is pretty damn sad... i've heard it from younger kids. not toward myself, but in blockbuster two boys around five and eight were calling each other "faggot" because of they were fighting over a video game.

what does maricon mean anyway? sounds coconutty ;)  ooops i forgot this is the serious thread.  :-X

thanks for the bryd/shepard and green river links.

Maricon is 'faggot' in spanish.  Another term used is joto or in Puerto Rican slang pato.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on April 24, 2006, 11:21:55 PM

I HATE that I am going to send MY child out into a world that allows this to happen...


I can not begin to imagine how this topic affects you as a parent, Jess.  I wish there were something, anything I could say to help - all I'm able to come up with is hope.  Hope that there is more awareness, that people will realize this problem is freakin' real and that it is unacceptable that it has everhappened in any shape, form or fashion, yet continues to happen.  I believe that BBM is a very positive step in that direction, but it's up to all of us to carry the message.   

don't hate, don't fear, that's how it is... the time you spend hating could be spent training, explaining, making somebody see why and how homophobia not a good thing. a sixteen year old with the world at his feet can't spend time hating either. fear may draw negative energy to him. so go out brave, but be aware.

the bashings are real, and it's senseless, but they will continue to happen because... that's how it is. i really don't think there will be a time or place where there won't be some sort of dischordant harmony, at least to some degree. without it, the world would fail.. if everything is good, how will we know what is bad? no rain, no rainbows.

i don't mean to dissolve any sadness into frivolity, i just want to say that we can learn from misfortune. we need to address what is wrong in order to put a stop to the violence as much as possible. but even in utopia, there will be events that remind us that we're happy, most of the time.

that's why BBM is indeed a huge step, as it reveals to the world what it can be like for men trapped in their own homophobia and the results of homophobia in the outside world. the dreams shattered and lost are commonplace among so many men and women the WORLD over. imagine what it's like to be gay in a muslim nation, for instance. impossible. it's a world where women who've been raped are often stoned to death because they have "brought shame on their family."

i like the word gay, myself. i think some people have a problem with it (and those who choose the label) because of what it represents. happiness.  sadly, many gay men and women are not happy. because of their lack of support growing up, because of the fear and the hiding, the shame, because of a lifetime of sadness or bad experiences. many of us, i dare say, are a fragile group. we have paid a hell of a price.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on April 24, 2006, 11:34:19 PM
Thank you, Michael.  My heart goes out to you for your loss and all that you have endured along the way.   I understand about the wave.  Hard days indeed. 

One of the very first posts I read on this forum was authored by Jack.  I believe he said 'Folks, we have paid a hell of a price'.  That line has been stuck in my head since.

We have indeed paid a hell of a price.  One of the things that we have not talked about here is suicide.  I have had a few friends die this way.  I really think that bashing has a big impact on that too.  Some people just can't stand the pain and just can't fight anymore.

Me - to coopt the AA saying - I say 'keep fighting back - it works!'
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on April 24, 2006, 11:56:02 PM
yeah, the suicide rate among gay men, especially teens, is really sad.

john, a handsome greek boy, died from suicide. his mother and sister put so much pressure on him that he caved in. the mother, a devout catholic, said "i'd rather have you dead than gay" to her son, in hopes of scaring him... i suppose, but he fulfilled her wishes when visiting her in chicago, on christmas day. i have a greek 'god's eye' pendant he hid in my apartment. he'd planned his suicide, as he was giving things away. i found also a photo of him tucked into a book on my shelf, years later.

i'd talked to his sister before, around thanksgiving, she tried to get me to rally behind her. i said no way. john is gay. after that, she wouldn't talk to me.

i often think of her and the mother, if they saw brokeback, if they came to realize. i hope they are on this forum, but i doubt it.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: louisev on April 25, 2006, 02:14:38 AM
Whew!  I guess I really WASN'T alone when I was duking it out in the "Were they gay" thread.  My heart goes out to everyone who has suffered from crimes against gays, and now I feel a sort of minor sense of pride for standing up alone against the "virtually nil" camp who said gay bashing incidents are so rare as to be insignificant.  I know that isn't true.  I only wish that others who still believe "It's unimportant" could read the messages from those who lost friends, acquaintances, loved ones, or have watched them be beaten, or have been targeted by homophobic cops... to sensitize them to a very real and very dangerous American reality.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on April 25, 2006, 04:43:20 AM
louise, i popped in and popped right back out on the other thread, but i got a feel, from one page, what was going on. thank you for your support and for standing up for yourself, and for others!

anyway -- gay bashing, even if it's one person a year, is significant.  but it's all over and all to often, and like i said before, most of it probably isn't reported.

then there's the levels of gaybashing. the subtle stuff, name calling, the spraypainted "HOMO" or "FAG" on the doors of gay men or their cars, the slashed tires...  we had two tires slashed in antioch, california. i don't know why really, but the guys that did it were "toughs" and we were outnumbered, so there was nothing we could do. did i call the police? no. i was a teenager or just 20... sometimes you don't think ahead. but had i filed it as a hate crime i suspect people would have laughed.

i don't think it's just an american reality tho. i know that gay bashings, or at least hate crimes, go on across the world. my aunt was beaten by thugs in germany, she was a japanese tourist, at least 50 years old, attacked by about 5 german punks in berlin. saaad. oh, and they took her purse. so was it a hate crime? or was it just a purse snatching? who knows.

what strikes me is that many attacks are made by groups of attackers, and not just one. it seems that a certain likemindedness of hatred can multiply their contempt and anger.

it pays to be careful. even in west hollywood, men are encouraged to wear whistles around their necks to sound an alarm call if something happens. it might not stop a baseball bat, but it could alert others nearby, as people in WEHO should know by now that the shrill sound of a whistle means trouble.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: louisev on April 25, 2006, 05:06:52 AM
I am getting a sort of deja vu feeling from the late 1980's, when women were being cross examined on witness stands when they dared to accuse someone of rape, and convictions remained low, and then public awareness began to improve and the Rape Shield Laws were enacted to increase the protection for victims of sexual abuse.

I think the same public awareness needs to happen on hate crimes against gays.  it is public awareness (even here, for heaven's sake!) that we have a widespread SOCIAL problem that needs to be addressed in a universal manner - hate crimes, hate speech, need to have higher penalties when charged, and people who spew homophobia need to be discouraged at all turns from their antisocial behavior.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on April 25, 2006, 05:30:52 AM
I am getting a sort of deja vu feeling from the late 1980's, when women were being cross examined on witness stands when they dared to accuse someone of rape, and convictions remained low, and then public awareness began to improve and the Rape Shield Laws were enacted to increase the protection for victims of sexual abuse.

I think the same public awareness needs to happen on hate crimes against gays.  it is public awareness (even here, for heaven's sake!) that we have a widespread SOCIAL problem that needs to be addressed in a universal manner - hate crimes, hate speech, need to have higher penalties when charged, and people who spew homophobia need to be discouraged at all turns from their antisocial behavior.

i fully agree. so many crimes go unpunished, and the laws seem unfair, even to this day... remember when child abuse laws were practically nonexistent? now at least the children have some protection, if not from their abusive parents, then from the court system that now better addresses their cause.

of course, it goes both ways and i'm sure there are children accusing parents and other adults of abuse when it isn't happening (it's been proven in some pretty well known cases), but for the most part i think the laws set up are necessary to preserve a child's rights. i feel we need to make sure those laws protect gay children as well.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dsmom on April 27, 2006, 10:40:34 PM
Houston, Texas

This week

16 year old boy,

beaten,

raped with a steel pipe

left for dead

found after 12 hours of laying there

50% chance of living

but hey, he probably was in the wrong place doing the wrong thing....and these things rarely happen
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dsmom on April 28, 2006, 05:43:14 AM
I posted about this in another thread....gay bashings are not reported as gay bashings...the above incident was reported on a station out of Dallas...our local news shows this morning just said he was beaten and left for dead...(no mention of the rape) if all you saw was the local show you would not know that it was a gay bashing...

two eighteen year olds have been arrested
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: ImEnnisShesJack on April 28, 2006, 06:49:51 AM
I think it goes on unreported b'c it is so widely accepted - even the 5th grader who says something like, "I don't want my hair cut like that - it's gay." is beginning a life of accepting gay-bashing as okay. 

I'll admit, that even I make those statements still.  (And I don't think it's okay - not like when Af/Am's use the "n" word with each other)  It's become habit.  It's part of my dialect.  And it makes me uncomfortable.  Not just b'c I'm gay but because I think it's wrong and disrespectful and desensitizes my children and the other people around me to the seriousness of gay-bashing and gay discrimination.  My children have witnessed gaybashing and gay discrimination in their schools by school administrators!!  Now they're setting a poor example of tolerance and understanding - then to be completely hypocritical, the school sponsors the LGBT awareness club.  It can't go both ways. 

Understanding and tolerance begin at home.  We all know this.  We need to teach our children (and our neices and nephews) tolerance and understanding for all groups - race, religion, sexuality, etc.  Then we need to demand that same equality and tolerance in our schools.  Those teachers and administrators have our kids in their care for 6 or more hours a day five days a week.  They have culpability in the ethics and values they impose on our kids while at school. 

And we need to demand the same tolerance in our communities.  Gaybashing and discrimination based on sexuality need to be considered criminal offenses nationwide - regardless if you live in the "bible-belt" or a conservatively-based community.  If it's not okay to throw stones at a black man or deface a mosque, then it's not okay to beat a gay man with a baseball bat just because he's gay.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on April 28, 2006, 02:04:20 PM
dsmom,

from what i understand, the beating was by two whites against a hispanic boy. apparently they were angry that he tried to kiss a 12 year old hispanic girl at a party they were attending.

one of the attackers was supposed to be in jail serving a ninety day sentance, but was released 30 days early~!

they also reportedly will not be charged with a hate crime for all of this, even tho one boy reportedly has hitler's birthday as a tattoo, and racial slurs were shouted during the 15 minute attack, which ended with bleach being poured on the unconcious victim. and it wasn't a steel pipe, it was the pipe from a lawn table umbrella. apparently the boy suffered so much internal damage he isn't expected to survive.

we can all say prayers, i am. i've heard online that if the boy died it would be a blessing, as that means the attackers would get more time in prison... but that's harsh.

it boggles the mind to know that people can get so worked up over something to do such an awful thing. minds are messed up, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on April 28, 2006, 02:42:22 PM
I think it goes on unreported b'c it is so widely accepted - even the 5th grader who says something like, "I don't want my hair cut like that - it's gay." is beginning a life of accepting gay-bashing as okay.  ...

...If it's not okay to throw stones at a black man or deface a mosque, then it's not okay to beat a gay man with a baseball bat just because he's gay.


well, it's not okay to beat or throw stones at anybody, but i know what you mean. ;)  and i don't think the "that's so gay" thing should be allowed, but it seems acceptable.

i myself am fond of the word gay, and so i treasure it. i wouldn't want to use it to describe anything negative, no matter how bad the haircut. ;)  but i would probably joke about it...

many people think the "that's so GAY" saying that is so widely used today is harmless. it's on the radio and i think it's also on TV. do you hear it on tv? i bet MTV and other shows, especially reality tv shows would air it... gay people say "that's so GAY" too, i guess it's like an black person using the N word. but i don't think they say it in a way that means that it's negative... unless they're mad and mean it that way.

i remember listening to a talk radio show and the guest and DJs were both saying "that's so gaaaay" over and over again, and laughing about it. unusual...

so it makes sense that children say it. my friend is a middle school teacher and she says everybody says it, even the teachers. i asked her if she could ask the kids not to say it and she said no. she says she tried to explain to the kids why it's wrong, but they just didn't get it, that her reasoning was, in a word, "gay."  sigh...

on a related note, i was in an indian sweets and spices store, you know, curry and whatnot, yummy stuff. anyway, they had these religious items with the swastika symbol all over it. my friend commented on how that is "so wrong" but we realized that they've been in use for centuries before the nazis started to use it. in japan, they also use the same symbol in pottery and fabric designs. it's really a beautiful geometric form, but now, it's not right in so many ways! weird...

then again, gays have accepted the pink triangle, and now they "own" it. so who knows... i know people with pink triangle tattoos even.  odd...  :D
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dsmom on April 28, 2006, 06:01:40 PM
dsmom,

from what i understand, the beating was by two whites against a hispanic boy. apparently they were angry that he tried to kiss a 12 year old hispanic girl at a party they were attending.

one of the attackers was supposed to be in jail serving a ninety day sentance, but was released 30 days early~!

they also reportedly will not be charged with a hate crime for all of this, even tho one boy reportedly has hitler's birthday as a tattoo, and racial slurs were shouted during the 15 minute attack, which ended with bleach being poured on the unconcious victim. and it wasn't a steel pipe, it was the pipe from a lawn table umbrella. apparently the boy suffered so much internal damage he isn't expected to survive.

we can all say prayers, i am. i've heard online that if the boy died it would be a blessing, as that means the attackers would get more time in prison... but that's harsh.

it boggles the mind to know that people can get so worked up over something to do such an awful thing. minds are messed up, that's for sure.

I am saying the facts will probably neverbe known but the act of rape...that is not a natural outcome of a beating...that was making a point...even if they were not doing it because they thought he was gay..
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 11, 2006, 05:19:06 PM
Just thought I'd post this over here as there are many who seem to believe this sort of thing doesn't still go on - this one took place in the East Village:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060611/en_nm/crime_assault_dc_1

Seven against one...yeah, that seems fair.  And I'm sure they all feel that they are big men now....
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: mary on June 11, 2006, 05:21:49 PM
Just thought I'd post this over here as there are many who seem to believe this sort of thing doesn't still go on - this one took place in the East Village:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060611/en_nm/crime_assault_dc_1

Seven against one...yeah, that seems fair.  And I'm sure they all feel that they are big men now....

I saw this today michael - very depressing, and in the East Village where some might think this would NOT happend
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 11, 2006, 05:28:36 PM
I saw this today michael - very depressing, and in the East Village where some might think this would NOT happened

Sadly gay neighborhoods are often where this sort of thing happens - people from outside of the neighborhood come in to either bash or rob.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 15, 2006, 06:32:44 PM
Here is an article from today's UK news on yahoo concerning the sentencing of two men in the beating death of 24 year old Jody Dobrowski in London last year:

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/15062006/325/face-life-gay-barman-murder-london.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 17, 2006, 11:51:43 AM
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Sorry Nick, didn't quite get that one?
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dsmom on June 17, 2006, 11:55:35 AM
Hey Michael...I asked Nick about this thread....he had archived it...I guess he decided to bring it back out...

I had a long pm yesterday from a friend in the UK about that bashing he asked me to post it here for him...then I couldn't find it so I posted it instead up in the" How we are percieved in the media" thread...I am thinking about bringing it down here though...
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on June 17, 2006, 12:15:52 PM
i can't bring myself to catalog these incidents, it depresses me so terribly to do so, but a new york performer, kevin aviance, was severely beaten in nyc a few days ago, and at least some of the perps have been arrested.

jack   
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Nick_F on June 17, 2006, 03:08:36 PM
I hadn't archived it, don't know why it was in the archive. nevertheless it ain't anymore!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dsmom on June 17, 2006, 03:11:39 PM
i can't bring myself to catalog these incidents, it depresses me so terribly to do so, but a new york performer, kevin aviance, was severely beaten in nyc a few days ago, and at least some of the perps have been arrested.

jack   

I read about that wasn't he supposed to be in charge of some of the Gay Pride activities? and they broke is jaw...so he can't perform...
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dsmom on June 17, 2006, 06:34:16 PM
 friend has asked me to post this

There's a very interesting thing that's happening here in the UK tonight - mixed feelings about it. The top story on all the news is the conviction and sentencing of two men who battered a 24 year old gay man to death last year in London because he was gay. The key thing is that they have been given more severe sentences - life with a minimum tariff of 26 years in prison - precisely because their motivation was homophobia under new hate crime laws that compel judges to impose more severe sentences on crimes which have a proven element of hate crime motivation such as racist and homophobic crime.

The very high profile that has been given to it - and the very lucid, moving statement from the victim's mother, denouncing her son's death and all homophobic crimes committed 'just because a someone is homosexual' shows a real shift in recognising the unacceptability of anti-gay violence in the UK. The police are stressing over and over that they will take a particularly severe line over anti-gay crime and strongly encouraging people to report.

I thought of your pm a few days ago about the man repeatedly stabbed to death and how his killer got away with it over there. This is a really good contrast. It has made me fee both proud of the shift in attitude over here and very upset by the brutal and horrible way that young man died.

His mother was so strong and clear and proud of him on the TV, Jess. All her family were around her and she didn't cry but spoke very vividly.

This is what his mother said:

'In a statement, his family thanked the police, medical staff, victim support groups, witnesses, the judge and prosecution team and all those who had ensured "justice was served".

"In a free and democratic society, Jody's murder was an outrage," they said.

"Jody was not the first man to be killed, or terrorised, or beaten, or humiliated for being homosexual - or for being perceived to be homosexual.

"Tragically, he will not be the last man to suffer the consequences of homophobia which is endemic in this society.


"This is unacceptable. We cannot accept this. No intelligent, healthy or reasonable society could."

It's a good feeling that it's the absolute top news story on TV, very clear that the killers are the ones in the wrong, no hint of criticism because the murder took place in a well-know gay cruising area. And lots of publicity about the extra severity of sentencing because of the new hate crime laws. As well as being upsetting it did make me feel proud of our country and how it's moved forward.

It was interesting that the news story gave figures about rising figures as the gay community becomes more confident and visible gay bashings increase. It's hard to know if that's because of the police encouraging more reporting or if the incidence is rising. The story was very clear that a lot of incidents go unreported.

We (our programme) funds a project which acts as a third party reporting body for gay people experiencing violence and does work in schools against homophobic bullying. We're involved in developoing a Hate Crime Strategy in Bristol with the police etc. They have police officers appointed to work with gay people too. It's come a long way.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 17, 2006, 07:09:17 PM
i can't bring myself to catalog these incidents, it depresses me so terribly to do so, but a new york performer, kevin aviance, was severely beaten in nyc a few days ago, and at least some of the perps have been arrested.

jack



I read about that wasn't he supposed to be in charge of some of the Gay Pride activities? and they broke is jaw...so he can't perform...


Thanks for posting this, jack.  I hadn't heard of that.

Kevin is a dance artist.  He's released two cds, "Box of Chocolates" and "Entity".

His songs "Din Da Da", "Rhythm Is My Bitch", "Alive" have all hit the dance/club play charts in Billboard magazine.  His biggest hit to date is "Give It Up", off his "Entity" cd.  It was released in 2004, and the song got heavy airplay on dance station 103.5 WKTU, getting into their Top 8 at 8 countdown.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: A**** on June 18, 2006, 12:09:44 AM
Here is a link to a story about Kevin Aviance:

http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=905
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 18, 2006, 05:11:17 PM

Thanks for posting this, jack.  I hadn't heard of that.


*ahem*

http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=6854.msg293566#msg293566
 >:(
 ;)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 18, 2006, 05:13:42 PM
Here is a link to a story about Kevin Aviance:

http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=905

Thanks for posting this here - I always forget to check the B.A.R.'s electronic site for these things.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 21, 2006, 12:19:29 AM
Don't know if anyone saw this about the books being burned in a Chicago library:

http://www.365gay.com/Newscon06/06/062006chicfire.htm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 26, 2006, 09:21:25 PM
Here's one on cars with rainbow stickers being vandalized in Des Moines, IA:

http://www.365gay.com/Newscon06/06/062606desmoines.htm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Texas_Girl on June 28, 2006, 09:42:13 PM
I'm sure you guys heard of the death of the two soldiers last week. Well, one of them was from my hometown (Menchaca).  I was shocked and disgusted today after hearing a teacher talk about this morning's newspaper. Apparently, the headline was dedicated to this group of people planning on protesting the soldier's funeral. I dont have a copy of the article from my hometown but there is a similar article here, this one is talking about the Tucker funeral:

http://www.ktvz.com/story.cfm?nav=news&storyID=13967

Basically, the group is protesting against homosexuals. And sure, neither soldier WAS homosexual but that doesn't seem to mean anything to them. They are just taking this "oh so perfect" moment to protest against the United States and their disapproval of homosexuality. I was planning on attending the funeral, as it is very close to where I live, but after hearing about this I decided not to. There was another group of people also planning on attending the funeral to protect Menchaca's family.  The group offering protection is a group of bikers who oddly seem more compassionate than this other group from Kansas. Either way, its just too much drama for me. I don't want to particpate in this kind of spectacle.

As you can see by the signs in the articles, God hates America and Gays. Right.


Oh, and this is my favorite quote from these morons:

"We humbly pray to God to please kill many more..."   

What a bunch of ignorant people. How they can honestly think they are doing God's work is beyond me.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 28, 2006, 10:01:24 PM
Hi Texas Girl,

Yes, I am familiar with Westboro Baptist Church and their minister Fred Phelps.  His reason for sending protestors to the funerals of servicemen is that he believes that the United States is a decadant and morally bankrupt nation (and that our 'permissive' attitude toward homosexuality is one of our greatest sins).  He believe that god is punishing the United States for that attitude.  Here is one of his hymns:

    God hates America! Home of the fags!
    He abhors them, deplores them,
    Day and night, all His might, all His days,
    From her mountain, to her prairie
    To her oceans, white with foam,
    God hates America! The perverts' home!
    God hates America! The perverts' home!

Here is the entry from wikipedia on Fred Phelps:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church

Oh, just so you don't feel that he's singling us out, he believes god hates Canada and Sweden too.  God apparently has a lot of hate in him.

If you should want to go to his site (and I really wouldn't advise it unless you want to let this sort of trash into your life) it is: godhatesfags.com

He's featured in the new film 'Small Town Gay Bar' as he is from Tupelo, Ms. and one of the gay bars is there.  The director said that interviewing him is like talking to a cross between your kindly old grandfather and Hitler.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: fritzkep on June 29, 2006, 08:41:56 AM
What a bunch of ignorant people. How they can honestly think they are doing God's work is beyond me.

It seems to me that when one gets to the point that one is telling God how He should think and react, one no longer thinks himself bound by any form of conventional morality.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Jer009 on June 30, 2006, 12:54:53 AM
As to the Phelps crowd, I think it's very telling that the government has banned those haters from military funerals only recently... Where were those concerned citizens when Phelps was protesting people who have died of AIDS? It seems that protesting AIDS funerals is OK, because "They deserved what they got" or "They were sinners". But when it came to the military, whoa, that's another story. Our brave men and women deserve respect!

Oh...and the mourners who lost a family member to AIDS, they DESERVE to be picketed with signs that say vile, ugly slurs on them at the very moment they're grieving? This administration turns a blind eye to what it doesn't want to see. If the Phelps crowd was only picketing AIDS funerals again and not military ones, there would have been no action taken, in spite of the horrendous things those signs say.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 30, 2006, 01:05:52 AM
As to the Phelps crowd, I think it's very telling that the government has banned those haters from military funerals only recently... Where were those concerned citizens when Phelps was protesting people who have died of AIDS? It seems that protesting AIDS funerals is OK, because "They deserved what they got" or "They were sinners". But when it came to the military, whoa, that's another story. Our brave men and women deserve respect!

Oh...and the mourners who lost a family member to AIDS, they DESERVE to be picketed with signs that say vile, ugly slurs on them at the very moment they're grieving? This administration turns a blind eye to what it doesn't want to see. If the Phelps crowd was only picketing AIDS funerals again and not military ones, there would have been no action taken, in spite of the horrendous things those signs say.

And don't forget, they have those same hideous vigils outside of the funeral of gay bashing victims too - they did it when Matthew Shephard died and the did it again when Scotty Joe Weaver was killed:

http://www.queerday.com/2004/oct/19/gay_murder_victim_scotty_joe_weaver_latest_phelps_target.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 16, 2006, 06:03:13 PM
Okay, now this is rich.  :o  Apparently the raid that NM police did on a gay gym referred to the sexual activities going on in the gym despite the fact that they were purportedly being busted for liquor violations.  And they couldn't send in undercover officers because they were afraid of 'sexual assault'!!!  Yeesh.  Wrong in so many ways:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/po/20060715/co_po/nmgymraidwarrantofficersfearedsexualassault
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on October 23, 2006, 11:11:24 PM
We are working on the end of 'The Front Runner' over in the Book Club, which has definite connections to this thread.  In relation to that I put together a post on the politics of murdering gay people:

http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=12775.msg545088#msg545088
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BrokenOkie on October 23, 2006, 11:47:13 PM
You are so right, Michael.  'Why' just doesn't have an answer or a reason, even now, 27 years later..... :'(
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on October 24, 2006, 12:31:04 AM
You are so right, Michael.  'Why' just doesn't have an answer or a reason, even now, 27 years later..... :'(

I'm so sorry Glenn.  And you're right.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Nick_F on November 14, 2006, 05:10:12 AM
bump
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on November 18, 2006, 03:52:03 PM
For people who are visiting San Francisco, this is probably something important to know.  We have recently had a series of assaults in the Castro district and they have been even more disturbing than usual as they have been sexual.  Here is an article from the San Francisco Chronicle about the neighborhood watch program that has happened as a response to this:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/11/18/MNGVBMFMES1.DTL
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: ImEnnisShesJack on November 25, 2006, 06:44:09 PM
Dave has an important announcement about the forum, which he asks all members to read:

http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=18085.msg602098#msg602098

We have set up a thread to discuss the situation. That discussion thread is linked from the post directly below the message from Dave. Follow the above link and you'll get to both.

Thanks
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 08, 2006, 07:46:22 PM
This is a disturbing example of what happens when Church and state collude in homophobia:

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article2029283.ece
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 08, 2006, 07:50:00 PM
Here's a great essay by an 11 year old standing up to bashers:

http://www.rethinkingschools.org/archive/14_04/bash144.shtml
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 08, 2006, 07:54:16 PM
Here are a few articles on a case from New Mexico:

http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/11304.html

http://www.freenewmexican.com/news/11159.html

And the attackers fate:

http://www.365gay.com/Newscon06/06/061706santafe.htm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 08, 2006, 07:57:59 PM
And in case you think it just happens in New Mexico, here's a case from Harvard:

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=514537
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 08, 2006, 08:02:12 PM
This case blew me away - these guys attacked people leaving the Gay Pride celebration in San Diego:

http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2006/09/25/5
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: 271horses on December 10, 2006, 01:57:01 PM
I'm one of the few guys who does Brokeback Slash, and just did a 100-page plus piece on the background of the characters of Earl and Rich, the childhood neighbors of Ennis del Mar.
If you remember both the story and film have as a pivotal moment, Ennis telling Jack they can't be together because this is what happens to men that try and have that sweet life: one of them ends up dead in a ditch, likely put there by Ennis's own father.
 
I started writing my piece in large part due to a study that published its results last spring, and as a response to speculation on the Slash thread on what kind of man takes his sons to see the body of a murdered gay man.
My response: a man with deep-seated personal issues of his own.

Made a pretty in-depth study of my own into the subject of homophobic violence, what triggers it, who does it, the circumstances, and turned up exactly nothing that surprised me.

Most of my friends are straight guys, pretty accepting, though one or two have admitted discomfort at the sight of 2 guys getting busy, none of them would cross town, or even the street to watch a gay pride parade, let alone expending the energy to dragging the gear around these protestors do, all over the country, every June, to make their opinion heard.
Because like average straight guys everywhere, THEY DON'T CARE.

Obviously People like Fred Phelps do care.  A lot.  In a country where our military is embroiled in a civil war threatening to spill over the borders, where most folks can't afford a house or an education for their kids, where even the most dedicated conservative has to admit the environment is likely the most pressing issue facing humanity today, the prospect of John Doe and Joe Schmoe getting married is their Number One Most Pressing Issue that Civilization Hinges Upon.
And you don't need to be a shrink to see the underpinnings of all this.

A gaybasher is a guy who is SO INTERESTED in homosexuality that he risks serious injury, death, arrest, prison, and the loss of all his freedoms as a citizen to go to some area where there are homosexuals and express his rage toward them.  Because he hates how he can't stop thinking on it. He has to do something to prove he ain't...you know.  Because he thinks that's what everyone is thinkng of him.  Because that's what he's thinking, all the friggin time.

Other than the suppressed homosexual desire, which I reiterate is NO SURPRISE to any man that ever lived in the closet, I found other elements were usually present, alcohol or other form of liquid or powdered courage; the mob mentality, those buddies you need to prove yourself to, the numbers to provide the safety, in case that little trannie turns out to be a, whoops, better fighter than you thought.  Who knows what dynamics might exist between members of that group? Re-read above paragraph, multiply by whatever.

Final ingredient, always present: cowardice.
The targets are always outnumbered, or prevented from responding aggressively (Fred Phelp's freedom of speech is always protected by a barricade of strapping cops).
A guy in the nearest big metropolitan area to me was jumped by half a dozen guys who had their GIRLFRIENDS standing by with the engine running in the truck a block from a freeway on-ramp.
Matthew Shephard, a little bitty guy, on his own against a pack of rabid tweakers, out in the middle of nowhere.

Funny thing, I never been gaybashed.  Never been called a fag. The neighbors in my rural, rednecky area pretty much all know about me, but I never had any trouble though I know it ain't because they're all so enlightened.  Most are, but there's a few, there always are.
Because when you're 6'3", 225, look like an undercover cop, drive a truck with military stickers on it that folks see parked at the shooting range now and then, see the gun racks there in the fall, for some reason, they see the wisdom in living and letting live and keeping your piehole shut.

It's so much easier to hear the call to arms when the enemy is five-foot-three, all on his own on a deserted street, and unlike to have a(legally licensed, concealed) 9mm under the driver's seat.

But grim as it looks, the attitudes have changed, the cops do keep stats on these incidents, which contributed a lot of the raw data for the study described above. 
I know personally, in the Army, guys go to the brig now for attacks that wouldn't of even got reported a generation ago, end up doing time in military prisons where there is no revolving-door parole.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 10, 2006, 02:58:01 PM
Funny thing, I never been gaybashed.  Never been called a fag. The neighbors in my rural, rednecky area pretty much all know about me, but I never had any trouble though I know it ain't because they're all so enlightened.  Most are, but there's a few, there always are.
Because when you're 6'3", 225, look like an undercover cop, drive a truck with military stickers on it that folks see parked at the shooting range now and then, see the gun racks there in the fall, for some reason, they see the wisdom in living and letting live and keeping your piehole shut.

It's so much easier to hear the call to arms when the enemy is five-foot-three, all on his own on a deserted street, and unlike to have a(legally licensed, concealed) 9mm under the driver's seat.

But grim as it looks, the attitudes have changed, the cops do keep stats on these incidents, which contributed a lot of the raw data for the study described above. 
I know personally, in the Army, guys go to the brig now for attacks that wouldn't of even got reported a generation ago, end up doing time in military prisons where there is no revolving-door parole.

Hey there - thanks for posting.  Would you please post a link to your slash story?

If you've read this thread you know that I've been involved in several bashing incidents.  About half in Michigan, half in California - where I now live.  I'm talking about adult cases.  Over in the 'surviving abuse' thread I mentioned that in high school I had people try to take me on and once you respond physically they usually stop.  I agree with you wholeheartedly that for the most part these people are chickens.

For my part I believe it is very important to make people aware that this sort of thing still goes on.  I was kind of stunned when I read the article about the people guys attacking people after gay pride in San Diego.  And I don't know if you're aware of it, but there has recently been a rash of sexual assaults in the Castro that are bashing related - the individuals involved stole from the victims then raped them. 

You're right about statistics - it's very important that they are kept.  Of course the reason that they are kept is because community groups began to fight this - much like community groups began to fight domestic violence.

One of the important organizations that I often report these incidents to is CUAV - Community United Against Violence:

http://www.cuav.org/about.php
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: fritzkep on December 10, 2006, 03:44:48 PM
I read about this story in TDS and have bookmarked it so that I can read it soon. I have only started on a very few new stories since the BBQ, just finishing up the ones/series I started before then, but your story sounds so intriguing that I simply have to read it. (My partner's name is Earl, and Fritz is kinda close to Rich!  :D  )

I was also in the Army during the Vietnam era, but not having any real idea about my true nature back then, I didn't experience any particular antigay sentiments, except the usual unavoidable during Basic.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 10, 2006, 03:45:24 PM
Doesn't surprise me, or that it escalated to include sexual assault. Possibly always did, they just talk more openly of this now.  Women are still so reluctant to talk about rape, can't even imagine what it'd be like for a man.

And again, they go to the trouble to go to a Gay Pride Event, get themselves a nice eyeful, make jokes to each other, build up a head of steam, get their courage up.

Pig-fuckers, pardon my French.

I live in a rural area without much of any kind of scene, though I do hear stuff from time to time out at the base.  Actually had an MP friend offer to drop off a soldier who solicited then beat up men in washrooms at my place for some "consciousness-raising" and I was tempted, I can tell you.  His victims were usually Asian men (ie, short) and married, scared to death of being outed to their families, didn't want to press charges, finally one did go to the cops.  His buddies knew about it, stood guard for him, till finally he pulled his routine with an undercover cop, so they got him.  After that his friends were peeing themselves to give him up and save their own asses.

There was a case a couple years back where a verbal altercation between a club patron and three guys who "just happened to be in the neighborhood" got physical in the parking lot and he got beat up pretty bad, though he got two of his attackers with a beer bottle bad enough they had to go to the hospital, and when they stitched em up, the cops over the state line recognized them (well-known to the law up there) from the description and extradited them.
At the trial, there defense was they're devout Christians and their faith was offended.  The jury guffawed, gave them pretty stiff sentences, plus they're all illegal immigrants so I think a deportation was part of the whole deal, for at least 2 of them.

Sorry to hear of your own experiences, and in what I think of as liberal states, though I guess that means nothing to these people.  You got a hankering for fish, you don't go to the desert I guess.

Thanks so much for the links!  I loved Lucian's 'Riding Fence' and can't wait to tackle this.

My experience with bashing goes from rural areas to mid-size and large cities.  I grew up in rural Michigan - about 60 miles northeast of Bay City.  The majority of incidents in Michigan took place in East Lansing.  Strange that it would be in a college town, but I would guess that comes from young men having anxiety about their sexuality at that point in their lives.  And the incidents in California happened in San Francisco.

About 4 years about I was back in East Lansing (my family is in Michigan - I go back to visit often) and a carload of boys drove by and yelled 'fa**ot' as me as they spun past.  This has gotten so old by this point that my immediate thought was 'Hot damn! I still intimidate them!'  Odd to take what was intended as an insult as a compliment, but I'm way past the getting jazzed about that particular term.  Back in the 80s I started responding 'well, duh!' when people said that to me.

I haven't lived in Michigan since 1980.  But I knew of entrapment incidents that happened there in the late 70s and early 80s.  Not quite bashing - but somewhat related, IMHO.

Thanks again for posting here.

mf

p.s. - all kinds of folks live in cities - so even if the majority are 'liberal' there are always some who take exception.  It just takes one.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: 271horses on December 10, 2006, 04:12:41 PM
I read about this story in TDS and have bookmarked it so that I can read it soon. I have only started on a very few new stories since the BBQ, just finishing up the ones/series I started before then, but your story sounds so intriguing that I simply have to read it. (My partner's name is Earl, and Fritz is kinda close to Rich!  :D  )

I was also in the Army during the Vietnam era, but not having any real idea about my true nature back then, I didn't experience any particular antigay sentiments, except the usual unavoidable during Basic.



Hmmm...well, its faithful to the original, so the last line isn't, and they lived happily ever after in their guesthouse in Key West or anything.

Rich gets his licks in.  No one gets away with it. 

I was Gulf War I Era, at the height of Don't ask, don't tell, so I heard a lot of antigay shit, deep in the closet and married back then, and putting on a big hetero show.  Alternated a lot between feeling shame at it, and wanting to shove the comment-ators feet first in a woodchipper, feed 'em in slow.

More awareness in those days than VietNam, which leads both ways.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: 271horses on December 10, 2006, 04:21:59 PM


Thanks so much for the links!  I loved Lucian's 'Riding Fence' and can't wait to tackle this.

hahhah, I'm his beta (editor), one of 'em, anyways.

My experience with bashing goes from rural areas to mid-size and large cities.  I grew up in rural Michigan - about 60 miles northeast of Bay City.  The majority of incidents in Michigan took place in East Lansing.  Strange that it would be in a college town, but I would guess that comes from young men having anxiety about their sexuality at that point in their lives.  And the incidents in California happened in San Francisco.

About 4 years about I was back in East Lansing (my family is in Michigan - I go back to visit often) and a carload of boys drove by and yelled 'fa**ot' as me as they spun past.  This has gotten so old by this point that my immediate thought was 'Hot damn! I still intimidate them!'  Odd to take what was intended as an insult as a compliment, but I'm way past the getting jazzed about that particular term.  Back in the 80s I started responding 'well, duh!' when people said that to me.

Youre likely right about it just being insecure boys.  Kids driving by like that, yelling something, doesn't even necessarily sound like they tagged you as gay, my nephews' friends use it as an all-purpose insult, and in the military you hear it so much you almost don't hear it.
My friends know not to use it around me but I ain't so naive to think they never use it, its so ingrained.  Out of respect, when we're insulting each other, we tend to call each other "bitch", which really seems to have become unisex now.
I know, can't we all just get along, but you can't measure progress in feet but millimeters.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Castro on December 11, 2006, 02:39:20 PM
Judy Shepherd, on the current climate in Wyoming:
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Have things in Wyoming changed at all?
I think the people that are accepting now were accepting then, [but] the general consensus here is that all crimes are hate crimes, and that's not true. We have no hate-crime laws in Wyoming—not just for gays and lesbians, but for anyone. [We're] one of only four states left in the union with no hate-crime law.
Here's the full interview text:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16116604/site/newsweek/
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: 271horses on December 14, 2006, 11:54:56 AM
Got a few PMs, gist was, well that's nice, you're big and mean-looking and they leave you alone, how about an average, not-threatening looking guy with no combat training, got any advice there, Sarge?

Guess that might of sounded smug, it wasnt meant to, just my intense contempt for cowards that only pick lopsided fights that they think they can't lose, or yell stuff from cars, surrounded by their buddies.  But it got me thinking, what about  guys who for whatever reason get tagged as gay?  What are they supposed to do?

When I was doing my research on gaybashing, I asked this cop friend of mind if they kept stats on victims and perpetrators, and what percentage of incidents got called in, resolved, where did they happen etc.  She said yeah, they actually did.
Figuring for a statistical under-reporting in general, the perpetrators tended to be young, male, traveling in a pack, liquored up.  They came from the whole class spectrum, college boys as well as rednecks with pickup trucks, and not at all were they religious or even politicaly conservative.  To my chagrin, though not surprise, all 5 branches of the Armed Forces were well represented.

The victims were not necessarily all gay, they ranged in age from schoolkids to old men, and they were not necessarily by themselves in an isolated situation.  Most of the incidents were not violent, usually name-calling, but what struck me was overwhelmingly, there were 2 kinds, harrassment of men perceived as gay in areas known to be the "gay neighborhood", and the other type was schoolkids, in school, on school grounds or coming/going to school.

I live in a rural area a couple hours drive from a mid-size city with a distinct though not huge gay scene, near the college in town, and like most "gay areas" its mostly liberal straights but gay people are open and therefore more visible.  There's a few bars and nightclubs though it ain't Mardi Gras or anything.  An average big city.

The vast majority involve guys going specifically TO the gay neighborhood, even if they live 100 miles away, get drunk, and drive by the bars (they always seem to know where they are) and jeer at the queers.
Or you have the high school kid, getting his ass taped or his bookbag thrown down the stairs, etc.

One statistic blew me right away:  though there's a fair number of ethnic minorities here, and they are recent enough that their presence causes tensions (including a lot of head-scarf wearing Muslims), the overwhelming majority of bias crimes, proportionately, are directed at gay men, and it has gotten worse in the past few years, what with the antigay marriage bills and general raised profile of this image.
So that means if you are a gay man, you have a much better chance of being a victim of a hate crime than a black man, Latino, anyone, even though most gay men ARE NOT READILY IDENTIFIABLE.

We have gotten into this issue over on the Gay and Masculine thread, back and forth, often enough I've come to wonder if there arent 2 distinct groups if homosexual men, often pretty hostile to each other.  Not getting into it here, but it seems to me that "sterotypical" gay men, or whatever term you want to use, are often so alienated from the traditional tenets of "manliness" that they reject all of it, don't watch sports, don't hunt, fish, etc.  Often they have been presecuted by such men that conform to the societal decree of what is masculine, and have something like post-traumatic stress syndrome from growing up as a boy who dont fit with the other boys, and part of that is often they won't have anything to do with physical aggression of any kind, jus shut down in the face of it.

Now I'll likely get in trouble here again, so I'll say right out I am not equating these guys with women, NOT THAT THERES ANYTHING WRONG WITH BEING  A WOMAN, etc.

But in the past, women were always taught if they were attacked, just dont fight back, it'lll make them angrier, basically untaught the most basic instinct we have, the one of self-preservation.  The thinking on that has changed, and a lot of woman have learned to tap into their own reserves of aggression, found that even if you're 5'3'' and 90 pounds, you can still hold off someone way bigger, the main thing is believeing yourself you're capable, and you do this by..doing it.  Training, just like soldiier, to get totally in touch with your physical side.

I guess that is exactly what people expect an ex-soldier to say, recommend combat training for all, but I would respond to that that if you been trained fom a young age to give up on that ability in yourself, and you face a better-than-average chance of facing violence, it is only realistic to try and face what you might have to face, and un-train yourself.  Because actually, most of it is mental, like 95%.

No, I am not putting the responsibility for the violence on the victim, of course not. But expecting law enforcement to do it all is also unrealistic, usually they dont come on the scene till after the fact, and they cant be everywhere at once.
Bottom line, if some drunk bunch of frat boys thought about jumping some little guy by the alley door of Club Monkey or whatever, but heard of a few incidents of that kind that led to the ER, and not for the little guy either, more of them might just keep on driving, keep their thoughts where they belong, to themselves, to say nothing of the reassuring aspect of this for the mental security of guys who are still closeted from that kind of fear
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Castro on December 14, 2006, 01:07:56 PM
Your entire post was interesting, 271horses.  I do want to expand on one thing you say:
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One statistic blew me right away:  though there's a fair number of ethnic minorities here, and they are recent enough that their presence causes tensions (including a lot of head-scarf wearing Muslims), the overwhelming majority of bias crimes, proportionately, are directed at gay men, and it has gotten worse in the past few years, what with the antigay marriage bills and general raised profile of this image.
So that means if you are a gay man, you have a much better chance of being a victim of a hate crime than a black man, Latino, anyone, even though most gay men ARE NOT READILY IDENTIFIABLE.

I do think that underlying this increase in anti-gay activity, as well as the marriage-protection bills and raised profile you cite, is the great increase in  anti-homosexual rhetoric from religious figures - in this country, primarily Christian denominations. It makes people feel good - and I mean that in both senses of good - to have their  moral indignation whipped up for  noble causes, and what could be nobler than the elimination of abortion and sexual deviation? It's always been easy for folk with a lot of anger or an excess of hormones to translate this into sanctioned violence.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: estefue on December 20, 2006, 05:55:13 PM
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Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 12, 2007, 08:36:53 PM
Here is an interesting article on an attack in San Francisco - which was complicated by a bumbling investigation:

http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=1474
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 12, 2007, 08:38:59 PM
And here's an article on the followup to the attack on the Yale singers:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/12/BAG8ANHUTQ6.DTL
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on January 17, 2007, 02:31:19 AM
michael, auntie told me about her visit in SF when you and her were walking hand in hand down the street and a girl or two girls called out "faggot" or something.. and remember when we were on the bridge coming off the santa monica pier and that guy yelled out "fucking faggots!" or something? maybe it was singular, i think it was directed to me, because i'd said "look at their beautiful seventies hair" and i guess they overheard realized i was talking about them, since they *did* have long, seventies style hair. anyway. it always amazes me how easy it is for somebody to yell "faggot" but will be careful about using the "N" word (for instance).

i was stopped at a light here in LA and two latinos at a bus stop were showing "fucking faggot, go home" and "fuck you faggot" and all this other F word stuff at the top of their lungs. it was a crowded street corner, and i saw a lone figure, latino himself, walking away. he didn't "seem" gay or anything... but he was the object of their hateful remarks. i don't know what transpired but he was walking away and the other two shouted and threw empty cans and litter at him.. it just boggles the mind to think how "free and easy" they seemed to be tossing the F word around like that, in such a hateful manner. nobody at the bus stop seemed to mind, it was very much a case of "look the other way."

my question -- if a cop was there, would they be in trouble for doing anything? is it okay to call people names? what is this "hate crime" law, and does it cover verbal assault? they were throwing things at him -- nothing connected i don't think -- but they were definitely aiming for him.

if anything they could have been cited for littering! anyway... sigh... i almost wanted to say something to those two, but what could i say,,,, behave yourself?
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 17, 2007, 03:27:48 PM
michael, auntie told me about her visit in SF when you and her were walking hand in hand down the street and a girl or two girls called out "faggot" or something.. and remember when we were on the bridge coming off the santa monica pier and that guy yelled out "fucking faggots!" or something?

{snip}

my question -- if a cop was there, would they be in trouble for doing anything? is it okay to call people names? what is this "hate crime" law, and does it cover verbal assault? they were throwing things at him -- nothing connected i don't think -- but they were definitely aiming for him.

if anything they could have been cited for littering! anyway... sigh... i almost wanted to say something to those two, but what could i say,,,, behave yourself?

Yes, I do remember the incident in LA Jimmy.  And the incident in San Francisco was even weirder because it was a young beautiful woman who looked at us on New Year's Eve and said 'f****** gay' as she walked by us.  Of course you can't tell when someone uses that word now if they mean 'homosexual' or 'lame'...still.

Regarding your question about what you can do - unless someone is threatening you, or acting menacing, I don't think there is much you can do.  The problem is that this can often escalate quickly.

It's one of the reasons I always carry a cellphone with me (and now I can take their picture too!).

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on January 19, 2007, 04:10:33 AM
well, the guys at the bus stop were threatening to beat him up... "i'll kick your faggot ass" was i think what one of them yelled out to him as he was walking away.

anyway. sigh. yes, i hate the phrase "that's so GAY" that is so popular these days...

and good on the cellphone, it is an added bit of security i suppose. thanks for the response!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 19, 2007, 05:42:44 AM
well, the guys at the bus stop were threatening to beat him up... "i'll kick your faggot ass" was i think what one of them yelled out to him as he was walking away.

anyway. sigh. yes, i hate the phrase "that's so GAY" that is so popular these days...

and good on the cellphone, it is an added bit of security i suppose. thanks for the response!

Oh...well, yes - I would call the police on that.  Pretty much like when I see a man threatening a woman on the street - even if I don't know them and it doesn't look too serious it's often worth a call.  You've just reminded me that I need to program the 'non-emergency' police number into my cell phone.  I like to have that one around for instances like this where threat of harm doesn't seem imminent but is possible.

Regarding 'that's so Gay' - I actually heard a mindless sports fan reprimand another for using the word 'faggot' in the underground the other day - said 'dude, don't drop f-bombs'.  Progress comes in little steps.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 19, 2007, 06:00:25 AM
Quote
One statistic blew me right away:  though there's a fair number of ethnic minorities here, and they are recent enough that their presence causes tensions (including a lot of head-scarf wearing Muslims), the overwhelming majority of bias crimes, proportionately, are directed at gay men, and it has gotten worse in the past few years, what with the antigay marriage bills and general raised profile of this image.
So that means if you are a gay man, you have a much better chance of being a victim of a hate crime than a black man, Latino, anyone, even though most gay men ARE NOT READILY IDENTIFIABLE.

I do think that underlying this increase in anti-gay activity, as well as the marriage-protection bills and raised profile you cite, is the great increase in  anti-homosexual rhetoric from religious figures - in this country, primarily Christian denominations. It makes people feel good - and I mean that in both senses of good - to have their  moral indignation whipped up for  noble causes, and what could be nobler than the elimination of abortion and sexual deviation? It's always been easy for folk with a lot of anger or an excess of hormones to translate this into sanctioned violence.

A couple of comments on this - first off, gay people are a safe bet as targets in a large portion of the country because the ones that are there are often either deeply closeted or don't identify with urban gay life, and therefore bigots get a pretty much free ride (they aren't challenged as much IMHO - and when they are it is often at more personal risk from the challenger).

Part of the winnowing out process that goes on for the 'obvious' in rural America has a lot to do with whether or not you are able to get away (or hide).  I'm pretty obvious - I wasn't wearing pink paisley shirts and eye makeup in the Midwest in high school, but I'm pretty androgynous and that raises hackles (and suspicions) too [bigots don't spend a lot of time distinguishing gender non-conformity from sexual behavior, etc.].  I was remembering a man who lived with his sister in the tourist trap town near me earlier today.  He was one of those people that were 'suspected' - he responded by withdrawing and having only a few close friends.  I think one of the messages I got growing up was that if I didn't want to wind up like that I needed to move to a large city - and when I did move to a large enough city (Lansing, Michigan has a population of over 100,000) it became clear to me (particularly upon visiting the west coast) that it could be even easier if you moved to a much larger city.

So I guess that part of the 'target' thing in areas with large Christian populations is that they suspect that they'll get a 'free ride' in their bigotry (not be challenged that much) - but at the same time it sensitizes them to sexual orientation and gender differences so that they are much more ready to spot targets.

FWIW
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 19, 2007, 06:05:52 AM
Just an fyi that the fallout over the Yale bashing case continues:

http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=1487

There are two things interesting to me about this - one is that people are surprised that this sort of thing goes on in San Francisco (it does, there are just way more of us, so it gets spread out) and two that you can go just a short way away from urban gay centers (these kids were less than 10 miles from the Castro) and get this sort of response.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on January 22, 2007, 04:33:04 AM
Regarding 'that's so Gay' - I actually heard a mindless sports fan reprimand another for using the word 'faggot' in the underground the other day - said 'dude, don't drop f-bombs'.  Progress comes in little steps.

eeehh!~! well in SF, i can imagine that perhaps he was worried that they themselves might get beat up! ;) by a savage group of pissed off queens! :D

regarding reporting hate crimes -- yes. i guess it's like seeing/hearing the sound (or threat) of child or spousal abuse -- don't look the other way -- a life can be saved.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on January 22, 2007, 04:37:40 AM
Just an fyi that the fallout over the Yale bashing case continues:

http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=1487

There are two things interesting to me about this - one is that people are surprised that this sort of thing goes on in San Francisco (it does, there are just way more of us, so it gets spread out) and two that you can go just a short way away from urban gay centers (these kids were less than 10 miles from the Castro) and get this sort of response.

yes, like nearby concord, where men in klu klux klan outfits were seen driving around in a truck the weekend my friend tim was murdered. UGH. and then the police cover up -- they "accidentally" burned his clothes and backpack.  evidence -- "poof" -- gone. then his murder was ruled a suicide since he was found hanging from a tree outside the bart station.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 26, 2007, 01:32:04 PM
yes, like nearby concord, where men in klu klux klan outfits were seen driving around in a truck the weekend my friend tim was murdered. UGH. and then the police cover up -- they "accidentally" burned his clothes and backpack.  evidence -- "poof" -- gone. then his murder was ruled a suicide since he was found hanging from a tree outside the bart station.

I remember when that happened!  And I remember the controversy.  Here's more on the Yale thing and how 'that's so gay' is related to homophobia (even though people try to say it is not now):

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/01/26/MNGMHNPLCM1.DTL

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on January 27, 2007, 04:04:32 AM
thanks for the article updates, michael.

Aziz, the 18-year-old son of a New York investment banker, said he apologized.

Aziz said he had only one beer while at the party. Fairman said almost everyone was drinking alcohol that guests had brought to the party. "We are college kids, and drinking is part of our lives."


well! alcohol again! makes me think of all the whisky up on brokeback. ;)

somebody toward the end of the article mentioned that boys sometimes fighting is "...natural though unfortunate."

yes.... too unfortunate in many cases...  :P
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 27, 2007, 02:57:41 PM
This was what got me:

Fairman recalled the uninvited guest being annoyed and announcing, "This is the gayest s -- I ever heard. What a bunch of fags."

It was out in the Richmond - which is also where the Fajitagate thing happened.  Sort of our own little Brighton Beach or South Boston.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: shelber on January 30, 2007, 05:29:40 AM
a co-worker told me today that her friend, he is gay, here in little old grande prairie alberta, is in the hospital after 2 men jumped him outside one of the bars and beat the hell out of him. which again is another reason for me not to come out...yet.

i almost threw up
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 30, 2007, 09:34:36 PM
a co-worker told me today that her friend, he is gay, here in little old grande prairie alberta, is in the hospital after 2 men jumped him outside one of the bars and beat the hell out of him. which again is another reason for me not to come out...yet.

i almost threw up

Yeah, I heard that Alberta is pretty rough.  Sounds like it's time for people to walk around in groups of more than one outside the bar there.  This used to happen where I come from in the midwest - I haven't heard of anything recently, but then again, most of my friends back there are a little older and don't go out to bars that much.

I had two friends who were robbed at gunpoint (sawed off shotgun, as a matter of fact) in the parking lot of a bar in Detroit.  And then another friend was attacked with a screwdriver (stabbed) outside of one of my friends homes in Detroit.  This was a while ago, however.

You should only come out to people you feel comfortable with - and only when you want to.  Your safetly is far more important that anything else.  You don't want to wind up politically correct in the hospital.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: estefue on January 31, 2007, 09:18:28 AM
Wasn't Alberta the one province that had to be forced to accept the federal marriage statute and tried to opt out of recognizing same sex marriages?
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 31, 2007, 10:31:50 AM
Wasn't Alberta the one province that had to be forced to accept the federal marriage statute and tried to opt out of recognizing same sex marriages?

There were 4 places in Canada that had to be forced - Alberta, Prince Edward Island, Nunavut and Northwest Territories.  So yeah, it kind of lags behind.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: shelber on February 01, 2007, 04:01:53 AM
Wasn't Alberta the one province that had to be forced to accept the federal marriage statute and tried to opt out of recognizing same sex marriages?

yes alberta was one...sigh...

alberta is such a conservative country, it would take a life time to convince it that world is indeed round...i was actually surprised that the province let broke back be filmed here.

there are 2 places in alberta that you may not get jumped if you are gay, that is calgary, but only in certain spots of the city, and jasper.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: All4one on February 01, 2007, 05:36:15 AM
Michael, I read that article and one thing that jumps out at me is the irresponsible behavior of the parents of the girls who had the party. They should have been home.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 01, 2007, 12:17:16 PM
Michael, I read that article and one thing that jumps out at me is the irresponsible behavior of the parents of the girls who had the party. They should have been home.

You sure are right about that.  Occasionally we have boondoggles in San Francisco that involve the police (the last one was called 'Fajitagate' where the cops got in a fight outside of a bar).  This looks like it is going to turn into that sort of thing.  It's a perfect storm of stupidity - drunk teens, irresponsible parents and cops not doing their jobs.  So the homophobia/gay bashing is just another element of this story.  And, of course, there's a little inter-town rivalry going on between Boston and San Francisco too.

But the one thing that I noticed right away was the use of 'gay' in the way it is supposedly used now  (i.e., not connected to homosexuality) immediately followed by the use of 'fag' - it put to lie the whole notion that the word has changed that much. 
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on February 24, 2007, 09:47:41 PM
i don't think john aravosis will mind my quoting him..

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72-year old Gay bashing victim dies from injuries
by Joe Sudbay (DC) · 2/23/2007 10:42:00 PM ET
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Earlier this week, Andy at Towleroad made us aware of the brutal and senseless gay bashing of a 72 year old resident of Detroit. Today, the victim, Andrew Anthos, died from his injuries:
Though Anthos, 72, was visiting with friends as recently as Wednesday, his condition declined rapidly in the past two days and he was administered the last rites late Thursday in Detroit Receiving Hospital.

The attack, which left Anthos paralyzed from the neck down and virtually without speech, shocked the gay community, which reached out to his family with love and support -- as well as anger and a resolve for justice.

"There's going to be a great deal more attention now that this, unfortunately, has become a homicide," said Jeffrey Montgomery of Michigan's Triangle Foundation.

"We have worked with prosecutors here for many years, and all the buttons that can be pushed are being pushed right now," Montgomery said.
Don't tell us hate crimes don't matter. Don't tell us we don't need protections. Don't tell us we need to move on. Don't tell us that while members of our community are still being bashed. And, don't be mistaken: We're still not safe in America


after over 40 years of seeing and reading about this, i am very tired of it and very angry.  especially when the courts, when they do act,  give lighter sentences for killing a gay man than killing someone else.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 26, 2007, 01:12:39 PM
Thanks Jack.  I just read about this.  I was talking with someone in Bay City and trying to explain that even though 'fag' is thrown around as a all-purpose put down, that sometimes it really is about sexuality.  A little over a year ago I had someone on public transit ask me if I was gay (this was on a Saturday morning at about 7 am) and then start on a tirade about how he was going to beat me the next time he saw me.  The person was clearly not well balanced, but whether or not someone is sane isn't the issue.  Gay bashing exists.  Crazy people do it and sane evil people do it.  Just like antisemitic and racist attacks still happen.  And it's been at least 2000 years for the antisemitic attacks.  I (sadly) don't think we'll see this sort of thing go away.

I was talking with one of the forum members in Bay City and she was telling me about her self-defense classes.  I fully intend to take one when I get back to S.F. and encourage everyone to.  As this attack shows it doesn't matter what age we are, we can't always expect to be respected.  And we must take care of ourselves to continue the fight.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: estefue on February 27, 2007, 10:10:03 AM
Excellent point Michael.  Sometimes that question is loaded and you never know what consequences the answer you give will have.  Which is why sometimes we hide by saying no when asked.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on February 27, 2007, 10:16:15 PM
The House of Representatives will soon be
considering a landmark federal hate crimes bill. This bill would
give law enforcement the tools they need to protect gay,
lesbian, bisexual and transgender individuals from hate crimes.


The Human Rights Campaign is asking all of us to contact our
Representative and urge him or her to cosponsor the Local Law
Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act. Please take action
today. Click here:
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Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: cwby on February 28, 2007, 08:35:02 PM
Here's the thing...I don't care if it happens a million times a day or once a year....for the person who is hurt and the people who love him ONCE is too DAMN many times...

I HATE this thread...I HATE that there is a NEED for this thread...

I HATE that there are people in this world so lost to anything that is good or just that  can walk among us and we can't even tell the ROT on their souls..

I HATE that I am going to send MY child out into a world that allows this to happen...

This quote for me sums up a heck of alot of frustration. We're not safe. I think we will always be a highrisk minority.


Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: cwby on February 28, 2007, 08:39:54 PM
This quote for me sums up a heck of alot of frustration. We're not safe. I think we will always be a highrisk minority. So I wanted to add-whaddya do about it? For me personally I take no chances and learn how to protect myself by whatever means available to me.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 28, 2007, 10:03:20 PM
Excellent point Michael.  Sometimes that question is loaded and you never know what consequences the answer you give will have.  Which is why sometimes we hide by saying no when asked.

Well...yes, Esteban, but I must admit that at 7am I'm not thinking three steps ahead.  I did answer in the affirmative.  But I did get out of the situation by exiting the car at the next station - and I called Community United Against Violence (our local LGBT anti-violence group) as soon as I got home.  As it was on a weekend I didn't get someone who could handle the report and I followed up during the week.

As the guy was psychotic I'm not sure saying no would have made any difference, btw.  He had pretty much already decided what he was going to say, I think.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 28, 2007, 10:09:44 PM
This quote for me sums up a heck of alot of frustration. We're not safe. I think we will always be a highrisk minority. So I wanted to add-whaddya do about it? For me personally I take no chances and learn how to protect myself by whatever means available to me.

Cwby - I live in a major city.  I never assume I'm 'safe'.  The only time anyone has ever connected with me in an attack was a non-gay related attack.  A homeless person (who appeared to be on amphetamines) said he didn't like how I looked at him and hit me in the back of the head with a rock.  So you do need to be aware - generally, as well as specifically related to gay attacks.  Back in the 70s I had some college boys try to lure me into their car - they came on to me.  I'm pretty sure they were trying to get me in the car and bash me.  I avoided that and I do try to be aware and not take chances.  It's probably not too different from the sort of behavior women engage in related to rape, IMHO.  I just mentioned in this thread that I'm planning on taking self-defense classes.  I think that's a good idea.  It's probably a good idea for anyone as they age, IMHO - older people are targets too.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Tia on March 01, 2007, 01:03:19 PM
"crazy people do it and sane evil people do it"

You hit that right on. The only thing is, society can usually pick out the obvious "crazy" People. And having worked it a psych setting, I can easily say that not all mentally ill people are violent. Unpredictable maybe. That area is really complex.

But what I really wanted to comment on is the fact that so many "sane" or so called normal appearing people can be capable of the most violent and terrible acts if they are in a situation that works right for them. And most people would never believe they are capable of this. Because they look and seem "so normal"

This always comes to mind when I see the news where someone did something terrible, even murder, and the neighbors are saying "he seemed like such a nice guy." or "they seemed like a nice family" after a vicious murder/ suicide.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on March 02, 2007, 01:54:28 AM
"crazy people do it and sane evil people do it"

You hit that right on. The only thing is, society can usually pick out the obvious "crazy" People. And having worked it a psych setting, I can easily say that not all mentally ill people are violent. Unpredictable maybe. That area is really complex.

But what I really wanted to comment on is the fact that so many "sane" or so called normal appearing people can be capable of the most violent and terrible acts if they are in a situation that works right for them. And most people would never believe they are capable of this. Because they look and seem "so normal"

This always comes to mind when I see the news where someone did something terrible, even murder, and the neighbors are saying "he seemed like such a nice guy." or "they seemed like a nice family" after a vicious murder/ suicide.

I completely agree that not all mentally ill people are violent.  The vast majority that I come across are not (I live in downtown San Francisco - it's a bit like working in a psych setting at times).

Your point about the sane doing violent things reminds me of the book 'Hitler's Willing Executioners' which talks about how normal people went along with the absurd/violent things that happened during the Nazi era (both in Germany and in other countries).

Earlier this week I went the the Holocaust Memorial in Farmington Hills, Michigan and saw a uniform from the camps with a yellow star with a pink triangle in it - so I've had that kind of violence on my mind a bit this week.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on March 02, 2007, 11:28:04 AM
Michael, I know I mentioned it in one of my videos that a good friend was killed on the train bridge that we all passed on the way to the theatre and planetarium.

I was thinking about all that last week.

We actually passed 3 places where friends were killed over the years.

One was Jim on the train bridge. The others were:

Mark, who was robbed and killed on the same block as the Planetarium when it was the Wenona Hotel back in 1976.

Brian. His body was found in the Saginaw River just east of where we had dinner on Saturday. We know he was in the park the last time anyone saw him.

I never did hear if anyone was arrested, or if there was even an investigation for any of these.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on March 03, 2007, 11:00:44 AM
Strange Fruit 2007

(adapted from the Lewis Allen 1937 poem)

American trees bear strange fruit,

Blood on the leaves and blood at the root,

Gay bodies lying on the city streets,

Strange fruit hanging from the poplar trees.


Now seen in both the north and south,

The bulging eyes and the twisted mouth,

Scent of equality, sweet and fresh,

Then the sudden smell of broken flesh.


http://pridesource.com/article.shtml?article=23672
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on March 03, 2007, 02:12:10 PM
Thanks for the adaptation of 'Strange Fruit' and the mention of your friends, John.  I'm very, very sorry for your losses.

It's strange, in  Michigan I experienced what I would typify as rural homophobia and then moving to San Francisco and experiencing the tension between groups of people in urban settings that is urban homophobia.  I've had bashing attempts in both places.

I've only lost one friend, another Michael, to anti-gay violence.  He was shot through the heart in front of Mission Dolores in the early 80s.

I remember your telling me about Brian.  I thought of him in Bay City too.

Again...my heart goes out to you.  There's so little that can be said in the face of this sort of thing.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on March 03, 2007, 10:27:36 PM
tears in my eyes from john's last two posts.... jim, mark, brian  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: kmich on March 30, 2007, 12:49:40 PM
A follow-up on the Andrew Anthos story from last month. The M.E. ruled that his death was the result of arthritis and not a beating.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007703290305
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on March 30, 2007, 02:02:26 PM
A follow-up on the Andrew Anthos story from last month. The M.E. ruled that his death was the result of arthritis and not a beating.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007703290305

And so he gets bashed again.  I found it telling that the headline says it wasn't a hate crime and you have to get into the article to find out that he was worried all along that they would say this.  Disgusting.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: kmich on March 30, 2007, 03:34:42 PM
Yeah, the whole tone of that article pissed me off. It seems pretty obvious to me that, despite what the M.E. ruled, this isn't an open and shut case. And the article seemed to imply that, because of the M.E.'s verdict, the politicians and gay rights groups who cited his case in their attempts to pass hate crimes legislation were somehow duped or wrong. Or that the legislation isn't needed. It's a rather smug article, I think. I hope his cousin continues to pursue the issue and pressure the police.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on March 30, 2007, 03:40:34 PM
Yeah, the whole tone of that article pissed me off. It seems pretty obvious to me that, despite what the M.E. ruled, this isn't an open and shut case. And the article seemed to imply that, because of the M.E.'s verdict, the politicians and gay rights groups who cited his case in their attempts to pass hate crimes legislation were somehow duped or wrong. Or that the legislation isn't needed. It's a rather smug article, I think. I hope his cousin continues to pursue the issue and pressure the police.

What surprised me was that they have the evidence from both the bus driver (who heard the scuffle) and the friend (who saw an altercation).  Perhaps the arthritis had something to do with the death - but the person involved certainly was implicated in negligent homicide, imho.

Sadly Michigan (and Detroit in particular) does itself no favors here.  Gay people rebuilt (or gentrified, if you wish) many downtown neighborhoods and if it becomes clear they are not safe there they will probably move.  With the court ruling earlier this year about universities not being able to give same-sex benefits to lgbt people and the closing of the store up in Mason for supporting a school Gay-Straight alliance it makes Michigan look like a particularly gay-unfriendly state.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Brokeback_1 on March 31, 2007, 09:30:26 AM
A follow-up on the Andrew Anthos story from last month. The M.E. ruled that his death was the result of arthritis and not a beating.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007703290305
This is disgusting, so gross I had to post a comment on that website. Detroit, jesus what a hole.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: kmich on April 11, 2007, 06:24:19 PM
A little more follow-up on the Anthos story. The Triangle Foundation is pursuing an investigation and offering a reward for information.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200770410051
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Roco on April 12, 2007, 07:42:34 AM
GAY TEEN ATTACKED FOR BEING GAY!

 http://towleroad.typepad.com/towleroad/
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on April 12, 2007, 12:52:15 PM
GAY TEEN ATTACKED FOR BEING GAY!

 http://towleroad.typepad.com/towleroad/

Here's more on that story Roco - thanks for posting this here!

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_5479654,00.html

http://www.krdotv.com/story.cfm?nav=news&storyID=2816

http://www.kktv.com/news/headlines/6980057.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on April 12, 2007, 12:56:55 PM
A little more follow-up on the Anthos story. The Triangle Foundation is pursuing an investigation and offering a reward for information.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200770410051

It's kind of hard for me to understand why they wouldn't have taken this more seriously.  The person who was bashed was obviously high profile enough - he had been asking to have the state dome illuminated in red, white and blue for a while from all I've read.

Are they in the middle of a crimewave or something, kmich?  I thought the new police commissioner in Detroit was doing a good job, from all I heard - is this not the case?
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: kmich on April 12, 2007, 01:31:41 PM
A little more follow-up on the Anthos story. The Triangle Foundation is pursuing an investigation and offering a reward for information.

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200770410051

It's kind of hard for me to understand why they wouldn't have taken this more seriously.  The person who was bashed was obviously high profile enough - he had been asking to have the state dome illuminated in red, white and blue for a while from all I've read.

Are they in the middle of a crimewave or something, kmich?  I thought the new police commissioner in Detroit was doing a good job, from all I heard - is this not the case?

No, no crimewave. My suspicion is that the police ran into a dead-end in their investigation and the M.E.'s report allowed them to wipe their hands of the whole thing. But that's pure supposition on my part.

I didn't know the man myself, obviously, but I get the impression that he was a bit of a fixture in the Greektown area. So I imagine he was somewhat high profile. I wonder if age has something to do with it, too. He was elderly and we as a society don't tend to value the elderly too highly. Again, just speculation.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Brokeback_1 on April 27, 2007, 01:48:39 AM
There have been a number of attacks of varying  severity out here recently. They took people by surprise--especially the 2 which happened in Boulder.
Boulder is widely considered a liberal bastion--Cambridge Mass. in the Rockies, 'The People's Republic of Boulder'. It's a town which consciously wears a left image with pride, a town so tolerant it sometimes attracts losers who can't take a different set of rules...and attack people.
As a relatively new resident but long time visitor for months at a time to Colorado, I have to say this  at least makes headlines here; and the authorities deal with it fast...

I wish when we were younger  school districts had taken action when a lot of us were dumped on or attacked. I feel badly for that boy.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dejavu on April 27, 2007, 10:36:16 AM
^^^^^

Since my family lives north of Denver, I'm always interested in Boulder happenings although not that familiar with the streets themselves -- my U of Colo degree was obtained in Denver  :D ... but can you give any more details about the two attacks in Boulder?

You've made me really curious, because it's definitely a liberal town, although the JonBenet Ramsey murder pointed out that it has problems just like anyplace else.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on April 27, 2007, 12:21:13 PM
Thanks for the posts about Denver.  Being in a liberal city doesn't really make a difference.  Here's something I just posted over in 'Gay History' that I thought should have a place over here too:

http://thecastro.net/parade/parade/hillsborough77.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Roco on May 01, 2007, 08:39:30 AM
Another victim of HOMHPHOBIA!

http://fagbug.com/
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 01, 2007, 10:24:03 AM
It seems to run in families:

http://www.smdailyjournal.com/article_preview.php?id=74350

Apples and asparagus?
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Marge_Innavera on May 02, 2007, 09:00:52 AM
This is in today's Daily Sheet but bears repeating and is going out to people on the HRC mailing list -- it's about the bill being considered in the US Congress re including gay-bashing attacks in hate crime laws:


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The vote on hate crimes will be Thursday. . . . Apparently legislators are being so heavily bombarded with calls and emails from the radical right that some are getting very nervous about voting for the bill. Knowing how close we are, that's not good.

EVEN IF YOU'VE ALREADY CALLED YOUR REPRESENTATIVE about this bill, and even if they've said they'll vote for it, we need you to pick up the phone RIGHT NOW and remind them of your support.

>> To find out where to call and what to say, go to: http://www.hrcactioncenter.org/ct/31xVss61ezTA/

I know who is doing this, or at least one source - heard it on the radio yesterday. Chuck Colson from "Breakpoint" is claiming that including gay people in hate crimes laws will stifle freedom of religion. Not very congruent with this schtick about "reaching out to the homosexuals", unless they mean reaching out with a tire iron or small handgun.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 17, 2007, 08:33:33 PM
Suspect held in New York and Nova Scotia killings of gay men:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/po/20070518/co_po/suspectheldinnovascotianydeaths;_ylt=AsYyd3Zc3GRX05hjdPpawvgE1vAI

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070516/halifax_murders_070516/20070516?hub=TopStories

http://www.cjob.com/news/index.aspx?dir=national&src=ext&rem=./n0516133A.xml

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2007/05/17/race-investigation.html

http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/health/070517/x051713A.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Brokeback_1 on May 18, 2007, 03:27:24 AM
You know...my youngest brother has been NYPD, stationed in Greenwich Village many years. That area, the gay capital of maybe the whole country,  is dangerous at night away from the avenues and towards the river.

Why?

Gay-On-Gay 'gaybashing, with an economic and racial component. The latin/black kids from the worse areas of the Bronx can't stay up there and safely be gay, other kids and gangs would at the very least beat them. So they come downtown and are safely gay. At the same time, a number of them are hustlers and if you are gay and look weak, or scared of the kids from uptown, they will 'gaybash' you. I've had more then one person say if it happens, the sex-based 'hate language' is as bad as it would be from any 'straight' gay basher.

So it is socially based, class based, economically based, racially based and sexually based--all in one package. Both brother and ex BF say it has gotten better in recent years due to active community policing and more economic opportunities, but what a complication and what a terrible frustration! Think on it--gay teenagers so poor they become hustlers and criminally attack other gay men, using the other 'f' word...

I remember this myself from years ago, early 20's, late teens. They didn't mess with me--not that I'm tough, I'm not. I just knew how to carry myself and was the same age, mostly. They would talk to me, probe a bit. I would answer; just be myself basically.It just took getting to know some of the guys; before you knew it word got around you were ok and not only were you fine back then but you heard it all---if I stay in the South Bronx and be gay my ass is grass... One of the guys from the Bronx became pretty close friends with me and another guy my age;  we brought him to a 12 Step meeting as he drank and drugged  like the proverbial fish and asked how we stopped doing it. He stayed, too, after being exposed to that message. And the stories that guy could tell about attitudes, and trying to be tough and quietly gay so he didn't get beaten, hiding it, saying to hell with it and going downtown, discovering an entirely new form of anti-gayness which let out some of his rage....

In a nutshell, there were the economics and anger that the older and white men apparently had it so EASY being gay, while these boys met with absolute unacceptance on their home turf...
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: bradINblue on May 18, 2007, 04:12:57 AM
Jack, you are so right. I have been a cop a long time, and the 'white straight guys crusin' in a pickup lookin' for queer guys to bash' just ain't the case. In my experience, reports of men getting randomly assaulted while 'strolling though the park' at 0darkthirty hours (who the fuck does that?) and gets the shit kicked out of him, is by some queer hustler who's high on meth, a 'no pay', or by a mental developmentally disabled/challenged person who got 'hit on' by some older school teacher who couldn't take 'no' for an answer. Either way, it's not straights looking to bash queers.

The killing of Matthew Shepard is truly a despicable example of true hate and those responsible deserve the death penalty as far as I am concerned. Having said that, Matthew wasn't just sitting on a bar stool wearing a 'rainbow' tee shirt and sporting a pink triangle, and for that, drug out and killed.

My point is, most of the 'bashing' towards homo men is at the hands of fellow homo males. I suspect at least one of those who killed poor Matthew was himself a homo.

Brad
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: estefue on May 18, 2007, 09:21:01 AM
I'm curious; have their been any studies/statistics on this?  Although it is undeniable that gay on gay violence does occur (and is probably grossly underreported) can we go as far as to say that there is very little straight on gay bashing?
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 18, 2007, 12:43:41 PM
My point is, most of the 'bashing' towards homo men is at the hands of fellow homo males. I suspect at least one of those who killed poor Matthew was himself a homo.

Personally I can tell you that I have had over 10 attacks on me - none were by gay men.  And out of the 12 incidents 10 were white.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: bradINblue on May 18, 2007, 03:57:30 PM
In the context of this thread and my repeated references to the very low statistics regarding 'gay bashing', I am refering to bias crimes perpretrated because of ones sexual orientation. While it is distasteful and rude to name call--sissy, queer, fag--whatever, I don't consider this 'gay bashing'. Name calling and making fun of someone is very common. Fat people, ugly people, old folks, disabled people, religious women who grow their hair long and wear it in buns (referred to as bun-heads in my part of the country). If we view this behaviour as bashing or attacks, we will forever remain a victim.

Now, regarding out right criminal assaults and discrimination--or even claims of discrimination--due to ones sexual orientation, they are very low and I don't buy the constant ranting by a certain group of people that these stats are low cause folks just don't report it. I'm not talking about the 70's here, but I have been a cop since the mid 80's, and here in the Pacific Northwest, the bashings were infrequent, and when they did occur, they were major news.

One of the most high profile cases was a black, wheelchair-bound lesbian woman. She had a cross burned in her front yard, her vehicle vandalised, and hate-speak spary painted on her house. This went on for weeks. The city was in an uproar. All the lefties demanding federal government intervention, cause we (and I was part of this) weren't doing anything on a local level. We, the police, were being accussed of aligning ourselves with the neo-nazi, skinheaded, white youths, who were sure to be the suspects. Something wasn't right, cause despite the prolific attacks on this woman, there were never any witnesses. No one meeting the 'profile' being seen in the area when these attacks occurred. Without her knowledge, we set up multi-angle survelliance of her home. Sure enough, she walked out in the middle of the night, planted a cross in her front yard, lit it on fire, and fled, running on foot, into here house.....

Brad

 
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 18, 2007, 05:16:49 PM
In the context of this thread and my repeated references to the very low statistics regarding 'gay bashing', I am refering to bias crimes perpretrated because of ones sexual orientation. While it is distasteful and rude to name call--sissy, queer, fag--whatever, I don't consider this 'gay bashing'.

Yep, I don't consider that bashing either.  When I talk about bashing I'm talking about things that could have ended  in physical damage - rocks, bottles, knives, etc. (I've seen all three).

BTW I've also been on the connecting end of non-gay violence.  The one that sent me to the hospital was a crazy homeless person who didn't like the way I looked at me and hit me in the back of the head with a rock.  So some of this is just the result of living in an urban area, imho.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Brokeback_1 on May 18, 2007, 08:24:50 PM
I didn't mean to, but apparently started a very civil discussion about attitudes and bashing. Which is as it should be, sure enuff.

Myself, I consider name calling insulting and depending on the source it hurts but bashing is just that to me: physical attacks, a 'bashing'. I've probably been bashed at a younger age and more completely extensively bashed then anyone on the thread. Just the other day a friend of mine described what went on as a bashing. And know what? I had never thought of it that way, I'd thought of it as sexual abuse by strangers. And yes, it was a series of bashings as well. Don't know how I survived it, at 12. It is so strange that I realise all this at this age, alongside my wife lol. It may be OT but I hope every one of you finds  someone who loves you as much as I am loved.

Re Matt Shepherd, those guys were 6'plus and he was a small young man. His mother said it was a robbery at first and got out of control, they put the moves on him and he went along. In other words they intentionally made a sexual move on him with intent to rob him. Deceptively seduced a small guy who from point of size alone could not fight back... One of those guys had had numerous closeted encounters. The other may have. And both were high as kites, the entire miserable situation spun into a drug induced nightmare, and he ended up dead.

That is what was said at the discussion up in Casper, in front of Mrs. Shepherd, with Mrs. Shepherd, who also said the tragedy of her boy was that he was just that: an ordinary boy, no saint, no icon. Just a college kid.

And that made me even more nauseous.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 18, 2007, 09:18:30 PM
It's odd, Jack, but I remember instances when I had people try to pick me up back in Michigan that I had the distinct feeling were out to roll me.  I've always gone on instinct with that sort of thing, I think it has served me well.

I don't count that sexual abuse I experienced in school as being bashing.  And I really don't consider the other bullying events I experienced there that way either.

For me an attack itself isn't a bashing unless there is a verbal component identifying why someone is doing it - otherwise it's just random street violence.  And verbal abuse without a physical component isn't bashing either - but it can be the first step towards it, I've found.

There is an organization in town named Community United Against Violence:

http://www.cuav.org

They're the ones I report incidents of this sort to.  They're part of a larger network called the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs:

http://www.ncavp.org/

They report statistics on this sort of thing.  I've always wondered if the statistics aren't under reported (sort of like domestic violence incidents) as they are self-reported.  I'm sure there are lots of guys who would not like to report that they have been bashed.  And there are others who just don't know where to report it.

My attitude toward these sorts of things have changed over the years.  They used to make me angry and I'd be more likely to try to fight back.  Now I just try to get away as soon as possible.  I think it was Brad who said to me in an earlier discussion that some people are just bad and some are crazy.  This pretty much goes along with my thinking now.  In the long run it doesn't matter why they are doing it as long as you get away.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 20, 2007, 04:13:10 PM
Here's a great story about a kid who attacked a gay teacher in the U.K. and was sentenced to work at a gay magazine - to research on homophobic crimes.  The experience turned the kid around, who went on to ask if he could write a letter asking to apologize to the teacher he sent to the hospital:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/po/20070519/co_po/hatecrimesentencegayforaday;_ylt=AhEd8pzGaR8Lx.a0xmucbHUE1vAI
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 20, 2007, 04:15:17 PM
And here's a not so happy story about a kid who was killed outside of a South Carolina bar for being gay:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/po/20070519/co_po/manchargedinscarolinagayslaying;_ylt=ArkxCQgPkH8ACshtTLufs5gE1vAI
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 20, 2007, 07:59:13 PM
Here are some memorials from Matt & Andrej Koymasky:

Barry Winchell

http://andrejkoymasky.com/mem/bar/bar1.html

Arthur Carl Warren

http://andrejkoymasky.com/mem/acw/acw1.html

Steen Keith Fenrich

http://andrejkoymasky.com/mem/ste/ste1.html

Billy Gaither

http://andrejkoymasky.com/mem/bjg/bjg1.html

Scott Amedure

http://andrejkoymasky.com/mem/sco/sco1.html

Allen R. Schindler, Jr.

http://andrejkoymasky.com/mem/all/all1.html

Julio Rivera

http://andrejkoymasky.com/mem/riv/riv1.html

Danny Lee Overstreet

http://andrejkoymasky.com/mem/dan/dan1.html

Christopher Raynsford

http://andrejkoymasky.com/mem/rayn/rayn1.html

Winfield Mowder & Gary Matson

http://andrejkoymasky.com/mem/wgm/wgm1.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 20, 2007, 08:03:39 PM
Here is an incredible film - 'Licensed to Kill' by Arthur Dong, which conducts interviews with men in jail for homophobic attacks:

http://www.deepfocusproductions.com/page_html/film_LTK0.html

Here are the profiles of the murderers:

http://www.deepfocusproductions.com/page_html/film_LTK1.html

And here's a bit on the study guide associated with the film:

http://www.deepfocusproductions.com/page_html/film_LTK4.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 20, 2007, 08:12:29 PM
Here are the FBI statistics on hate crimes for 2004:

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius_04/offenses_reported/hate_crime/index.html

Here is the report for 2005 (they changed their format):

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2005/incidentsoffenses.htm

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on May 21, 2007, 05:55:11 PM
'strolling though the park' at 0darkthirty hours (who the fuck does that?)

Its pretty common for guys on the DL to go cruising for sex like that. They don't have regular boyfriends who they can visit. They don't want to go online because the wife might find something on the computer. They can't go to a gay bar because someone they know might see them coming or going. Then there are "regular" gay men who strike out at the bars. And of course there are the hookers. 
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 21, 2007, 05:59:06 PM
'strolling though the park' at 0darkthirty hours (who the fuck does that?)

Its pretty common for guys on the DL to go cruising for sex like that. They don't have regular boyfriends who they can visit. They don't want to go online because the wife might find something on the computer. They can't go to a gay bar because someone they know might see them coming or going. Then there are "regular" gay men who strike out at the bars. And of course there are the hookers. 

And then there's Kevin Spacey....oh, wait, you mentioned guys on the DL.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3638321.stm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on May 21, 2007, 06:33:55 PM
And then there's Kevin Spacey....oh, wait, you mentioned guys on the DL.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3638321.stm

Oh dear!! And he's into black guys too!!!!
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Brokeback_1 on May 22, 2007, 02:56:22 AM
'strolling though the park' at 0darkthirty hours (who the fuck does that?)

Its pretty common for guys on the DL to go cruising for sex like that. They don't have regular boyfriends who they can visit. They don't want to go online because the wife might find something on the computer. They can't go to a gay bar because someone they know might see them coming or going. Then there are "regular" gay men who strike out at the bars. And of course there are the hookers. 
A lot of people do, Brad. there were entire areas of Gateway National Park near Jamaica Bay, off of the Belt Parkway in Brooklyn and Queens where the parking lot would be JAMMED at 5:00AM. The cars were either empty or had steamed windows. Not a woman anyplace, it was completely gay. If they hadn't hooked up and gone into a car, they were  in the phragmites reeds, having sex in the great outdoors amongst the sand cherry blossoms and horseshoe crabs.

A friend and I went to look around 4-4:30 AM one brilliantly beautiful summer night when we were 18 or so; I still remember how gorgeous the moon was!  We  walked the unpaved paths, checking it out, exploring, inventorying the events. That bayside  area was PACKED!!! It was a huge orgy, everywhere.  My friend and I, being goodlooking  and rather obvious teenaged  straight looking Italian  Brooklynites  [it was the haircuts roflmao, the mark of Brooklyn!] attracted an entourage of interested men. One finally asked why we were there, since we were checking it all out and not joining in.  He  offered interesting sex to both of us, at the same time.  We  said no thank you,  we were sociological observers  observing, and just ignore us. For some reason that scared the hell out of 'em, half the entourage left lolol. But it was very interesting. People went there from Brooklyn, Queens, Long Island... it had a rep.

It's not there any more, the National Park service removed the parking lot and returned it to a natural state, so people couldn't screw in the reeds.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Brokeback_1 on May 22, 2007, 03:01:36 AM
And then there's Kevin Spacey....oh, wait, you mentioned guys on the DL.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3638321.stm

Oh dear!! And he's into black guys too!!!!
 ;D ;D ;D
Was he really doing anything? maybe I'm naive, it just sounds as if he got conned out of his phone, or mugged and changed the story to avoid looking like a fool....
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on May 22, 2007, 06:33:26 AM
And then there's Kevin Spacey....oh, wait, you mentioned guys on the DL.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3638321.stm

Oh dear!! And he's into black guys too!!!!
 ;D ;D ;D
Was he really doing anything? maybe I'm naive, it just sounds as if he got conned out of his phone, or mugged and changed the story to avoid looking like a fool....

We're just being silly. But you have to admit that the story stretches credibility a bit. Out walking the dog at 4 a.m. on Friday night/Saturday morning. 19 year old asks for phone and then bolts with it. Trips over dog. Hmmmmmm... I sounds fishy to me.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 22, 2007, 01:19:49 PM
Sure...Kevin was just walking the dog in the park at 4 am.  And I'm pretty sure that George Michael was only looking for mushrooms in the woods.  And Ty Herndon was just...feeding ducks in the park

http://www.dallasobserver.com/1996-08-08/news/buzz/

I have a hard time understanding why you would not just have the dog poop right outside the hotel.  Plus, doesn't he have someone to do that?  Whatever (or whoever) he was doing, he certainly didn't deserve being robbed of his phone and bonked on the head, though.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Brokeback_1 on June 05, 2007, 05:26:39 AM
And then there's Kevin Spacey....oh, wait, you mentioned guys on the DL.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3638321.stm

Oh dear!! And he's into black guys too!!!!
 ;D ;D ;D
Was he really doing anything? maybe I'm naive, it just sounds as if he got conned out of his phone, or mugged and changed the story to avoid looking like a fool....

We're just being silly. But you have to admit that the story stretches credibility a bit. Out walking the dog at 4 a.m. on Friday night/Saturday morning. 19 year old asks for phone and then bolts with it. Trips over dog. Hmmmmmm... I sounds fishy to me.
Stranger things are possible.

LOL

Just yesterday, WLAGuy called me up at 2 AM when I was in King Soupers  on Capitol Hill in Denver.

What was I doing in the branch universally and proudly known as Queen Soupers on Capitol Hill at 2 AM???

Buying ornamental grasses, rosemary topiaries and unusual pelargonium geraniums. Even I told him it was...waaaay  gay to be at the supermarket buying INCREDIBLY CHEAP unusual pelargonium geraniums and rosemary at 2:00 in the morning. Outside 3 dogs were tied up. Big ones. Their owners were grocery shopping. One told me it was a bit early to walk Peaches, who was usually walked around 4:30AM.

Peaches was this HUMONGEOUS German Shepherd who looked like he could have eaten me AND Jake Gyllenhaal in one voracious gulp...
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 05, 2007, 07:51:57 AM
A lot of people do, Brad. there were entire areas of Gateway National Park near Jamaica Bay, off of the Belt Parkway in Brooklyn and Queens where the parking lot would be JAMMED at 5:00AM. The cars were either empty or had steamed windows. Not a woman anyplace, it was completely gay. If they hadn't hooked up and gone into a car, they were  in the phragmites reeds, having sex in the great outdoors amongst the sand cherry blossoms and horseshoe crabs.

A friend and I went to look around 4-4:30 AM one brilliantly beautiful summer night when we were 18 or so; I still remember how gorgeous the moon was!  We  walked the unpaved paths, checking it out, exploring, inventorying the events. That bayside  area was PACKED!!! It was a huge orgy, everywhere.  My friend and I, being goodlooking  and rather obvious teenaged  straight looking Italian  Brooklynites  [it was the haircuts roflmao, the mark of Brooklyn!] attracted an entourage of interested men. One finally asked why we were there, since we were checking it all out and not joining in.  He  offered interesting sex to both of us, at the same time.  We  said no thank you,  we were sociological observers  observing, and just ignore us. For some reason that scared the hell out of 'em, half the entourage left lolol.

They probably thought you guys were undercover cops.  ;D
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Brokeback_1 on June 05, 2007, 04:08:11 PM
A lot of people do, Brad. there were entire areas of Gateway National Park near Jamaica Bay, off of the Belt Parkway in Brooklyn and Queens where the parking lot would be JAMMED at 5:00AM. The cars were either empty or had steamed windows. Not a woman anyplace, it was completely gay. If they hadn't hooked up and gone into a car, they were  in the phragmites reeds, having sex in the great outdoors amongst the sand cherry blossoms and horseshoe crabs.

A friend and I went to look around 4-4:30 AM one brilliantly beautiful summer night when we were 18 or so; I still remember how gorgeous the moon was!  We  walked the unpaved paths, checking it out, exploring, inventorying the events. That bayside  area was PACKED!!! It was a huge orgy, everywhere.  My friend and I, being goodlooking  and rather obvious teenaged  straight looking Italian  Brooklynites  [it was the haircuts roflmao, the mark of Brooklyn!] attracted an entourage of interested men. One finally asked why we were there, since we were checking it all out and not joining in.  He  offered interesting sex to both of us, at the same time.  We  said no thank you,  we were sociological observers  observing, and just ignore us. For some reason that scared the hell out of 'em, half the entourage left lolol.

They probably thought you guys were undercover cops.  ;D
Never thought of that one, you might be right. It's just that we looked so YOUNG. I mean we were both  young looking teenagers. I found a picture at my mothers of me and that guy together, we had these pretty babyfaces. [ now that I think of it, classic twinks, with attitude...] Hell At 25 if you changed my haircut I could have passed for a HS student
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on June 19, 2007, 07:13:09 PM
please read

http://bookshop.livejournal.com/834653.html

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 19, 2007, 07:24:45 PM
absolutely disgusting
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 19, 2007, 07:26:45 PM
Thanks Jimmy.  I had someone get hysterical over the phone with me today and use 'I'm not homophobic, but' as part of the conversation.  This was at work.  I didn't see it coming - but then again, you rarely do.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 19, 2007, 07:28:56 PM
Thanks Jimmy. I had someone get hysterical over the phone with me today and use 'I'm not homophobic, but' as part of the conversation. This was at work. I didn't see it coming - but then again, you rarely do.


don't ya just love that?
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 19, 2007, 07:33:19 PM
don't ya just love that?

Yeah - I was pretty stunned as it had absolutely nothing to do with our conversation - and that it was coming from a female suburbanite.  I must admit that I expect it more from men than women.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 19, 2007, 07:37:21 PM
don't ya just love that?


Yeah - I was pretty stunned as it had absolutely nothing to do with our conversation - and that it was coming from a female suburbanite. I must admit that I expect it more from men than women.


I agree.  I had lunch with a few women who couldn't understand why Issiah Washington was fired from Grey's Anatomy, and thought that if gay men can call each other "fag" "homo" or "queen" that they should have the same right.

To be fair, they also felt that with rappers calling each other "hoes" and "nword", they should be able to do that, too.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 19, 2007, 07:49:04 PM
To be fair, they also felt that with rappers calling each other "hoes" and "nword", they should be able to do that, too.

Can I watch when they do that?  What they don't seem to understand is that they would never carry through with that due to perceived threat, whereas they feel they can do it to us with relative impunity.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 19, 2007, 07:55:58 PM
Can I watch when they do that? What they don't seem to understand is that they would never carry through with that due to perceived threat, whereas they feel they can do it to us with relative impunity.


you're probably right.  ::)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on June 20, 2007, 03:35:13 PM
To be fair, they also felt that with rappers calling each other "hoes" and "nword", they should be able to do that, too.

Oh...its bad when it comes to that. Oprah told a story once of going to visit Nelson Mandela at his home in South Africa. She and her African-American body guard were greeted at the door by one Mandela's African security guards. He opened the door, smiled, and said "Wazzup my niggahs." When Oprahs body guard took him aside to explain that was not appropriate, he said that he thought that was the way African-American's greeted each other nowadays. So you see, we've done this to ourselves.

I have had white friends of mine try that on for size too, and believe me, it does not happen twice.


Can I watch when they do that?  What they don't seem to understand is that they would never carry through with that due to perceived threat, whereas they feel they can do it to us with relative impunity.

Could that be because they feel we won't fight back because we're weak/effeminate? Or is it because we give them the idea that its permissable?

Milo
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 20, 2007, 04:11:27 PM
I have had white friends of mine try that on for size too, and believe me, it does not happen twice.

and are they still your friends?   I could never imagine using that term in any conversation.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 20, 2007, 04:23:10 PM
Could that be because they feel we won't fight back because we're weak/effeminate? Or is it because we give them the idea that its permissable?

Milo

Probably a bit of both.  Much like you said about people who have used stupid speech regarding race I think it is imperative to not let people get away with things like this - or at least to make sure it doesn't go unchallenged - or at least to get loud about it so that people don't feel comfortable about doing it.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: zth on June 21, 2007, 05:52:49 AM
OK... reposting.

So. I am not an American, and never thought that the "nword" was offensive.
I actually thought it was a cool word to say. At least this is how I receive it, in the way that
it is promoted through HipHop and RnB songs, and even some movies.

And about the "fagot" and "homo" words used by straights : I have (straight) friends, that do use
those words (the equivalent in my language I mean), when reffering to gays. I always start a "fight" with them,
and tell them : "What is your problem? Why won't you just say "homosexual"?".

The answer is : "homo and fagot are not bad words. You are the one who thinks that it is demeaning to use that word, when it is not".
And then they are saying that I am the homophobe !!   :o

Anyway, I of course keep defending myself, and explaining to them.
But when I think about it later, I realize that some of them really do use those words with no bad intension.
They just might say "fag" or "homo" instead of "homosexual".

Which is not good, because it gets confusing about who is the real homophobe, and who has really no bad intensions  :-\

Chuck, thanx again for clearing things up   :)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Ellen (tellyouwhat) on June 21, 2007, 09:18:51 AM
Thanks to all of you for making these points -- I have noticed this phenomenon -- it's really true that when insulting terms are used in entertainment, they become part of the language because they will inevitably be used by people who don't realize the terms are offensive.

The Oprah story is a great example, and I truly don't understand why the rappers don't get more criticism from african-americans.

Zth makes a great point in showing that other cultures have no way of knowing what words are offensive or merely slang or cool.

Long ago when "All in the Family" (archie bunker) was getting rave reviews, he was also teaching my brothers terms they had never heard before, either in our house or out in public -- racial insults, etc.  And Austin Powers took a cute little word like "shag" and made it mainstream in the States because parents (and kids) didn't realize it was not considered so cute in England.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 21, 2007, 12:41:35 PM
Hi zth!  You make some very good points.  It's entirely true that mass-media uses language a whole lot different than most of us use it in everyday speech.  Within the context of the gay bashing thread, however, the real problem with hate words (whether they be racial or of sexual orientation in nature) is that they are often used together with violence.  And racial violence, as well as homophobic violence still happens in the United States.  For example, the same week that Matthew Shepherd died another man, James Byrd Jr., was dragged to death behind a truck in Texas by violent racists:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Byrd_Jr.

People who think that it's fun or 'now OK' to use either racial hate speech or homophobic hate speech have obviously not been exposed to this side of the world.

There has currently been much debate about whether using the word 'gay' in the U.S. is acceptable for people in their 20s and younger to refer to things that they see as being trivial, useless, overly conventional, etc.  I would contend that it is merely a sly way for people who have issues to demean a word which is, in large part, still associated with sexual orientation.  There was also debate in the 90s about the use of the word 'queer' by people who do not identify with mainstream gay culture.  That I understand a bit more - it's an internal identification word.  They aren't saying that gay people are queer - but there is a subgroup of people (tattooed, pierced, multicolored hair, indeterminate gender dress, etc.) who identify with one another and call each other that.

I think that people who use words like 'fag' or 'homo' (or the equivalent in your language) feel they are using the language in a new and daring way - they have not, for the most part, been exposed to the violence or hatred some associate with those words.  It's important to point out to people like this that they wouldn't use transgressive words against groups that they have more fear towards (for example, in France you wouldn't use negative words towards Arabic or Muslim people without expecting to have negative repercussions).  They are using those other words (for 'homo' and 'fag') because they have a sense of entitlement - power over the group in question.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: zth on June 21, 2007, 03:19:35 PM
They have definately not been exposed to this violence. (maybe if they had, they would realize how stupid they are,
and were this homophobic bahaviour can lead).

I myself have not been exposed to real violence against homosexuals. I understand when I hear a homophobic
comment full of hate and/or fear, but it stays there : A comment (or lots of comments).
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 22, 2007, 07:13:41 AM
If any of you live in cities where the Metro free newspaper is issued, there is a very disturbing and saddening story in Philadelphia's edition today about violence at recent Gay Pride events in Moscow and Jerusalem. The article features an interview with Scott Long, of Human Rights Watch's LGBT rights program.

Just thought I'd pass this on, for what it's worth.

Sad, very sad. ...  :(
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: zth on June 22, 2007, 07:41:55 AM
This is very sad indeed   :-[

I just HOPE and WISH, that even if homosexuals read that, they won't give up.
They won't have second thoughts about joining their next parade, because of fear!
Because  this is exactly what those bulleys want!   >:(

Tomorrow will be my first LGBT parade. I am so curious about how it will be...
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 22, 2007, 10:08:37 AM
Tomorrow will be my first LGBT parade. I am so curious about how it will be...

Good for you! Congratulations on taking this big step (it was a big step for me, a long time ago now), and good luck!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Lola on June 22, 2007, 10:29:55 AM
I am just kind of jumping in this post without reading back (so pardon me for that)   But I just want to say I was watching Law and Order SUV the other night and they made a good point.

The point was that the type of people who would beat someone (or kill someone) for being gay, studies have proven conclusively that those people experience homosexual tendencies themselves.

I fully believe that, it seems like the only real explanation.  So the hate is not just directed at the person they beat, but actually at themselves.

They can't come to grips with who they are.

I mean otherwise why would anyone care?  Why would anyone care what another persons sexual preference was?
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 22, 2007, 12:55:24 PM
Well, there are other sorts of cases, Lola - they tend to be religious fanatics of all stripes - Eric Rudolph bombed a lesbian bar before bombing an abortion clinic and the Olympic Park Plaza.  And Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder were murdered in Northern California by Benjamin Matthew Williams and James Tyler Williams for being lovers before the Williams brothers went on to burn three synagogues in Sacramento California.  In both cases they were parts of extremely right wing Christian groups.

With young kids in schools they often do it because they think it makes them look cool in the eyes of other kids - much like making fun of overweight kids, etc.

But often I am pretty sure you're absolutely right that there is a sexualized fear associated with it.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Lola on June 22, 2007, 01:06:49 PM
I think committing those kind of crimes in the name of religion is probably the worst kind of sin you can commit.  I have never understood religious fanatics and I never will.

 ???
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 22, 2007, 01:27:32 PM
Tomorrow will be my first LGBT parade. I am so curious about how it will be...


Cool!  Congrats to you!

My first was in Phily a few weeks ago.  Tomorrow, I'm marching in the NYC parade.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 22, 2007, 01:28:56 PM
If any of you live in cities where the Metro free newspaper is issued, there is a very disturbing and saddening story in Philadelphia's edition today about violence at recent Gay Pride events in Moscow and Jerusalem. The article features an interview with Scott Long, of Human Rights Watch's LGBT rights program.

Just thought I'd pass this on, for what it's worth.

Sad, very sad. ...  :(


That's horrible.


I remember seeing picketers at the Phily event, and I'm curious as to what I'll see in NYC on Sunday.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 22, 2007, 01:46:24 PM
My first was in Phily a few weeks ago.  Tomorrow, I'm marching in the NYC parade.

Have fun, Little Darlin'!  ;D
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: zth on June 22, 2007, 05:39:09 PM
Tomorrow will be my first LGBT parade. I am so curious about how it will be...

Good for you! Congratulations on taking this big step (it was a big step for me, a long time ago now), and good luck!

Actually, it is not a big step for me. It is just the first time that I heard about it happening here, and since I always wanted to join
such a parade, that's my chance to go and see and support them of course.   :)  Thaaanx   :)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Brokeback_1 on June 23, 2007, 04:31:52 AM
please read

http://bookshop.livejournal.com/834653.html



Jimmy, WTF is this sh*t???

I can't believe it.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Brokeback_1 on June 23, 2007, 04:54:27 AM
I have had white friends of mine try that on for size too, and believe me, it does not happen twice.

and are they still your friends?   I could never imagine using that term in any conversation.

I would never use those words. Words mean something. Three-four years ago I worked with  two young black boys around 16 years old. They  were doing community service and were placed with me for 3 weeks. They called  each other nigger on the first day, but  by the end of that first week I don't think they ever called each other  nigger ever again.  They got 'it' from every direction---the boss, who was black and a Navy Seal, me, their coworkers, the black women in the office. And 'every 'it' they got was a form of 'how can you think anybody will respect you if you don't even respect yourself'. They didn't get it at first but finally DID get it when the boss had a long talk with both those kids. They apologised to everybody in sight. It may sound strange but by thet ime their service was up, they actually DID have some self respect.

Words mean something.

The words fag and faggot? I just hate them.I mean I HATE them.  If I ever use that word it's to quote someone else, or to mock someone's attitude. As a teenager  I got called that name so many times even thinking on it makes me want to puke. I may be a delusional shithead, an idiot, anything anyone wants to call me. But no, I am not a faggot. And if someone uses that word around me they will never forget it.

At around 12, my son called someone that word. His mother didn't yell, she knew it was teenaged peer pressure from one idiot. So when he was with that idiot and the word was used, she quietly asked him AND his buddy how they could possibly utter the word faggot when the  man who had IMMEDIATELY stepped in to help him after his bio-father had walked  was gay. Not just gay but Gay,  a friend of Katrina's  named Mark. Mark  was in his mid 20's and had just....stepped in. Automatically. And that boy adored him for that.

Sometimes, that is all it takes---a reminder that words mean something. He never used that word again, and the homophobic friend did not last longl.....As for the racial words I do not think he has ever said them in his life, he loathes that stuff.

He knows that words mean something. Now, if more parents could/would do the same thing....
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: annabel on August 02, 2007, 07:11:12 PM
Can I ask a question and is this the right place?  The other day my 9 year old daughter had a friend over and I overheard them talking.  My daughter's friend was talking about gay people in a pretty negative way, and my daughter, being a dumb ass kid, kind of went along with it.  After the friend left, I asked her if she knew what gay was and she said it was when a man married a man or a woman married a woman.  I then asked her if she thought there was anything wrong with that.  She said, well, her friend said it was wrong.

So I sat her down and said that when two people loved each other, whether they were male/female, male/male, or female/female, it didn't matter because love is love and if you find someone in this life to love you are lucky and there is nothing wrong or shameful in it.  Was this an age appropriate way to handle this do you think?

P.S.  A couple of weeks later the same little girl came over (I'm not banning her as it's not her fault; what she learns comes from adults) and they were having two of our foster kittens get married.  They happened to be males.  My daughter looked at her friend and said, "And it's OK you know if two boys want to get married" 
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on August 02, 2007, 10:34:48 PM
Can I ask a question and is this the right place?  The other day my 9 year old daughter had a friend over and I overheard them talking.  My daughter's friend was talking about gay people in a pretty negative way, and my daughter, being a dumb ass kid, kind of went along with it.  After the friend left, I asked her if she knew what gay was and she said it was when a man married a man or a woman married a woman.  I then asked her if she thought there was anything wrong with that.  She said, well, her friend said it was wrong.

So I sat her down and said that when two people loved each other, whether they were male/female, male/male, or female/female, it didn't matter because love is love and if you find someone in this life to love you are lucky and there is nothing wrong or shameful in it.  Was this an age appropriate way to handle this do you think?

P.S.  A couple of weeks later the same little girl came over (I'm not banning her as it's not her fault; what she learns comes from adults) and they were having two of our foster kittens get married.  They happened to be males.  My daughter looked at her friend and said, "And it's OK you know if two boys want to get married" 

Tough question, Annabel - mostly because I don't have kids and don't know about the 'age appropriate' part, however.  I think you did a very good job, however.  I'll ask some of my friends who have had kids if they can comment.

mf
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Ellen (tellyouwhat) on August 02, 2007, 10:54:47 PM
Annabel, about a year ago my son (at that time age 10) asked me what Brokeback Mountain was about.  He knows he is not allowed to watch it, and he knows I am obsessed with it, and he has seen the "dozy embrace" picture on my screen daily.

I told him it was about two men who cared for each other but society would not allow them to be together.  That it took place in the sixties and at that time people felt very strongly.

He answered "but now two people the same sex can marry, right?"

I answered, sadly, no.  Attitudes are different but not everyone agrees, not yet. 

IMO you did a good job and both girls understood when the kitten example came up.

But if you hear them talking about something like that again (or any type of language or belief that is not your belief) IMO you should break in and say -- "hey, in this house we don't speak about gays like that."

It would signal to your daughter that her friend doesn't know everything, and signal to the friend that there is another way to look at it.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: bradINblue on August 02, 2007, 10:57:48 PM
annabel, I admire the way you handled the situation. IMO nine, or any age, isn't too young when they (children) open the door, because they are thinking about it. i am impressed by your daugthers 'matter of fact' response regarding the kittens. i am curious as to what the little girl said in response to that.

brad
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on August 02, 2007, 11:00:08 PM
Was this an age appropriate way to handle this do you think?

I think that was a very age appropriate. At the age of 9, children understand what love means. But they don't undertand the sex part. So stick with what they know.

Milo
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: zth on August 03, 2007, 12:41:20 AM
But if you hear them talking about something like that again (or any type of language or belief that is not your belief) IMO you should break in and say -- "hey, in this house we don't speak about gays like that."

Annabel, very well done, IMO!

tellyouwhat, I am not sure if this comment would be the right thing to do.
I think it is negative, and when something is negative, banning, it provokes people to the exact opposite thing.

Instead, if I were there, I would break in and ask the other girl, why she says that. That could (probably) make her think for herself, instead of
just repeating what her parents tell her. Then I would just say my thoughts to her, just like annabel told her own daughter.
Of course, that could be "dangerous", in case the little girl told her parents about it, and they wouldn't apreciate it...   :-\  So it can be a risk to talk to the other kid about it.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: annabel on August 03, 2007, 05:19:54 AM
Tell you what, I don't think I could say that to the little girl; in every other way she is a very sweet, lovely child and it's not her fault (plus, I was eavesdropping ;))  I think my daughter said it for me.


P.S.  When my daughter said what she said about the kittens, the girl kind of hung her head and said " I know, I know"  You know what?  Whatever happens in this life, I can only shape my children and make them be the tolerant, loving people I want them to be.

Just as an aside:  A couple days ago, we were on the beach and I ran into a woman I was in a program with (I am a recovering addict; can't wait til I have to explain that one to the girls) and her partner and their dog.  I really like this woman during the program, but unfortunately I relapsed and had to go inpatient and lost contact before I could get her name and number.  I thought about her a lot, as she really touched me (you know how some people just click?) So, when I saw her I ran over and hugged her and said how glad I was I found her and we exchanged numbers and planned to go to a meeting together.  Anyway they were walking down the beach holding hands and my daughter said, "Are they gay?"  I told her yes, and she said, "Oh, they hold hands like you and daddy and I like their dog"  I think I did something right, because she went right back to building her sandcastle.  Just another day on the beach :)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Ellen (tellyouwhat) on August 03, 2007, 07:07:25 AM
yep, you did a lot right!

just to respond to "zth" comment above --

what is "dangerous" -- that a child might tell yer intolerant parents the same views are not held in every household?

I think the idea of intervening -- however you do it, is okay. 

And what is "eavesdropping" on 9 year olds?  If you bring it up with your own child later, then you clearly heard.

IMO kids that age ought to experience the "mom with eyes and ears everywhere" once in a while. 

Well, I'm not radical and it's fine if everyone doesn't agree with me, but to tell a child "in this house we do it this way" whether it is to tell them "in this house we don't speak to adults that way" or whatever the infraction, -- if you can't say that to a kid, what is it you're afraid of?

I live in a very conservative city and suburb where people feel free to assume all kinds of things about me just because I am a white mom.  They make comments about religion, presuming I "agree", and about politics, and I have been faced many times with whether to keep quiet or not.

It's a lot easier to keep quiet.  Maybe, in the end, more dangerous to keep quiet than to speak.  :-\

Anyway, I agree annabel is doing great handling this issue, and her daughter has a good foundation for thinking for herself.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: zth on August 03, 2007, 07:57:57 AM
tellyouwhat,

Let me explain about the "dangerous" that I said.

What I meant is, that ok, this other little girl is the daughter of homophobic parents.
But also, she is the good friend of your daughter.
Then this girl starts telling your daughter the homophobic ideas that she has learned from her parents.
Then you go and tell her that she is wrong, which means that her parents are wrong, and you try to
explain to her your own ideas.

So far so good.

But what happens if that girl goes and tells her parents all about your "teaching" and the new things that she learned?
I think that her parents will get ungry, and will come and fight with you, because you are the one who interfered with their
daughter's "raising". Then they might even forbid their girl to be friends with your daughter.
And a bad situation will have been created. That's what I am talking about. That it is risky, in this way.

And I also believe that it is better and much less risky, if your own daughter talks to that girl, like how it happened with annabels child.
In this way, it is something among the kids, among the friends. Her parents cannot fight with your daughter, cannot fight with a little
girl about this. And they couldn't come to you either. I hope I make sense...

Oh! Sorry, I don't understand what "eavesdropping" on 9 year olds means   ???

and I also don't understand this   :-\
Quote
Well, I'm not radical and it's fine if everyone doesn't agree with me, but to tell a child "in this house we do it this way" whether it is to tell them "in this house we don't speak to adults that way" or whatever the infraction, -- if you can't say that to a kid, what is it you're afraid of?

I am just saying that if you want to say something, especially to a child,
you should say : "In this house we do it this way"
instead of : "in this house we don't do it this way".

Positive is always better than negative.
Batter say : "Do that", instead of "Don't do that".
You have much more chances to achieve your goals in this way.
It has something to do with psychology, or with brain-processing or something. Forgive me for not being able to express myself better   :-\

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Ellen (tellyouwhat) on August 03, 2007, 08:59:50 AM
Hi -- that's okay, you are explaining yourself fine, and probably I am not doing as well myself!

I am talking as one who has raised a girl (now 27) and my son is 11. 

How can I say this -- I have been in many situations, in fact more lately volunteering at my son's school and also in the boy scouts, where the kids seem to treat adults (me) as if they are not there, sometimes.  I believe the adults are there to guide and if the kids are rude or directly challenging, I call them on it.  They clearly do not expect it. 

My son's best friend has been put in the car and taken home for challening me in my house.  Then later, he asks to speak to ME on the phone, and wants to play me something he learned on the piano (over the phone.)  I take that to mean he somehow respects me.


As for the "eavesdropping" -- and I don't know if you have children or maybe you are thinking about how you were raised - but I think kids feel more secure with boundaries, and at nine years old, when they are inside the house, I don't see any downside to simply letting them know you can hear their conversation.  Also, with that particular conversation, I'm not sure I would expect they were assuming it was completely confidential. 

At an older age, beginning more at 11 and 12, I agree it's appropriate to give them space and respect their privacy, but if I overheard something disturbing I would still bring it up.  Not to go out of my way to "eavesdrop" but to let them know that I'm watching, and I care.


Back to the message of "danger" -- I didn't mean going in to IMPOSE my view on the child, just to say "in this house."  And of course I understand the "positive" approach rather than negative, the exact words used are up to annabel or whoever is doing it at the time.

I agree she did a great job.

this isn't the parenting thread (I think there is one somewhere?) and I only responded because annabel seemed to want a response from someone else who had kids.  Maybe you do, or maybe you don't, we both agree that she handled it very well.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BrokenOkie on August 03, 2007, 09:55:56 AM
{snipped} this isn't the parenting thread (I think there is one somewhere?)

Found it!  Parents Connect (http://www.davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=8802.0)

It's archived, but not locked so please feel free to continue this interesting & relevant discussion there.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Ellen (tellyouwhat) on August 03, 2007, 10:14:23 AM
Thanks Glenn.

I do have one more comment on the gay bashing element of this talk (why annabel posted here.)

She overheard kids talking in a way that put down gays.

It might be useful to ask, if it had been a racial group or any other group, would we feel the need to tiptoe around the other parents' religious beliefs?

When I say I'm not radical, what I mean is I see that these posts in black and white may give the impression that I am an old-school die-hard liberal just looking for a challenge.  That is definitely not the case.  These matters are delicate especially when dealing with children, and I agree with Milo at this age it is not a discussion about sex, but about attitudes and what they are old enough to understand.

ok I'm done.  :)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: annabel on August 03, 2007, 01:25:56 PM
Thanks for your helpful and insighful comments about my situation with my daughter.  It's funny you should mention it, but we've actually had it the other way around.  We're Jewish and my daughter's had some nasty comments about that and I've had to sit down and talk to her about that too.  Sheesh!  Sometimes people really suck.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on August 03, 2007, 08:47:56 PM
Sometimes people really suck.

Yes indeed.  They can be very hurtful on any number of issues....
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BrokenOkie on August 23, 2007, 10:56:24 PM
A case of posthumous bashing occured recently, at the hands of the High Point Church in Arlington, TX.  They refused to perform a funeral for a gay man - after they had already agreed to host the service.

Our local MCC pastor (who came to the Bible belt from San Francisco) wrote an article which was published in the Dallas Voice in response:

http://www.dallasvoice.com/artman/exec/view.cgi/85/6365



Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on August 24, 2007, 01:04:39 AM
Thanks Glenn.  Someone needs to remind these folks about all that 'god is love' talk....
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on September 09, 2007, 11:43:24 AM
I submit this as witness to the sort of scum that bash gay people (and attack jews and foreigners):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6985808.stm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on September 10, 2007, 03:44:16 PM
I submit this as witness to the sort of scum that bash gay people (and attack jews and foreigners):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6985808.stm

I don't understand how these guys have managed to make it this long without getting their own asses kicked.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on September 10, 2007, 03:53:35 PM
I submit this as witness to the sort of scum that bash gay people (and attack jews and foreigners):

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6985808.stm

I don't understand how these guys have managed to make it this long without getting their own asses kicked.

Well there's no telling how long they've been in Israel from Russia, Milo.  And there is a strong anti-semitic element there.  But to me a Jewish emigrant and an anti-semitic gaybashing fool - that's truly strange.   
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Lola on September 12, 2007, 03:36:47 PM
Well look what kids are hearing from rappers!!

Promoting the Gays

Wed, 12 September 2007
 
Kanye West isn’t the only one hating on MTV.

Rapper Ja Rule recently made a please to MTV to stop promoting homosexuality in a recent issue of Complex magazine:

“We need to go step to Paramount, and ****ing MGM, and all of these other mother****ers that’s making all of these movies.

“We need to go step to MTV and Viacom, and lets talk about all these ****ing shows that they have on MTV that is promoting homosexuality, that my kids can’t watch this ****.

“Dating shows that’s showing two guys or two girls in mid-afternoon. Let’s talk about **** like that! If that’s not ****ing up America, I don’t know what is.”

http://justjared.buzznet.com/2007/09/12/ja-rule-gay/

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on September 12, 2007, 03:50:47 PM
^^^ Nice catch Lola.  Thank you.  Great to know that Ja Rule is working on cleaning up the morals of America.  Now if he would perhaps address the kids shooting each other in the Western Addition a few block from where I live....

Here's one about an ex contestant from 'Top Chef' being attacked:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070912/ap_on_en_tv/top_chef_beating;_ylt=AifPyKQG5ZYRJ2cR0r7idZ4DW7oF

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on September 12, 2007, 04:21:03 PM
“Dating shows that’s showing two guys or two girls in mid-afternoon. Let’s talk about **** like that! If that’s not ****ing up America, I don’t know what is.”

Don't even get me started on hip-hop artists like Ja Rule. He knows damned good and well that the crap he and others in the industry have been putting on records is ****ing up America. And the rest of the world too.

A couple fo weeks ago, I was watching a PBS documentary about how America is viewed in Europe. in France there were these home-produced rappers recording in their tiny living room. Rapping about all the stupid crap that the thugs over here do: b*tches, hoes, smoking weed, driving piimped-out rides, and (my personal favorite) how they were the first people in Paris to sport grills on their teeth.

I wanted to scream at the TV: "THAT'S NOT WHO WE ARE!!!" But the truth is, that what we're selling these days. So what are kids supposed to think??

Milo
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on September 12, 2007, 04:33:33 PM
I wanted to scream at the TV: "THAT'S NOT WHO WE ARE!!!" But the truth is, that what we're selling these days. So what are kids supposed to think??

Well...anyone with a brain doesn't think that' about anyone but idiots like Ja Rule.  I am constantly remarking to people that if they want to have their notions about kids readjusted they should volunteer at a library.  You see lots of people under 20 studying and reading.

Ja Rule, Buju Banton and all the rest can take a hike.  I'm more concerned that there are kids who might thing that's who they should be.  I think it's corrosive to show kids nonsense like that.

I remember that the week before Katrina hit New Orleans the MTV Video Awards were in Florida (which had just suffered Katrina's wrath).  They were all so busy flashing bling that they could care less about what was happening in the gulf.  Until afterwards when they could make more money by appearing socially aware.

We certainly have come a very long way from the days of Marvin Gaye's 'What's Goin' On' as far as popular music goes - and it's been all down hill.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Lola on September 13, 2007, 05:52:29 AM
Here's one about an ex contestant from 'Top Chef' being attacked:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070912/ap_on_en_tv/top_chef_beating;_ylt=AifPyKQG5ZYRJ2cR0r7idZ4DW7oF


I read about that yesterday.  People magazine on line carried the story.  How bizzare!  :'(

I hate rap (well most of it)  My one son was a big fan of it, he still is to some degree (still listens to Snoop Dog).  I say give me back the days when he use to listen to DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince.  At least Will Smith was "normal" and he has continued to be a good role model for young people.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gavern on October 18, 2007, 01:51:12 PM
in 1998 in Canada, I was 23, I went to my first gay bar ever, I was so excited to finally be able to experience that. Well 2 hours later I woke up in an ambulance with a knife in my head and my face so swollen that you could harld tell where my nose was. Two guys "pretended" to be gay at the bar and lured me down to what i thought was their house (for some fun + I was nervous as i hadn't even had sex ever) well they took me to a bustop late at night and beat the crap out of me and stabbed me in my head. They were never charged or found. I forgave them years later but still I can only say that the reage in them was a clear reflection of their own self hate, I don't believe anyone is gay or bi or straight, some veer towards the male polar others towrds the female polar but in and of itself we are the same, even "straight" men need interaction and closeness with other males, that's why football exists, that's their sub-conscious way of being close to another male. That's what i've learnt so far.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on October 18, 2007, 02:14:27 PM
Thanks for posting here Gavern.  We don't get much traffic in these parts.  People like to pretend this doesn't happen, and yet it still does.  One of the results of people ignoring/denying that bashing exists is that we begin to question our own grasp on the situation.  My experiences with bashing has not been from men in bars, but I have no doubt that this sort of thing goes on - I had a guy walk up to me in a bar that was about 50/50 lesbian/gay men and ask me where he could find two women to go home with him.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Brokeback_1 on October 18, 2007, 08:39:52 PM
Oh it exists Michael.

and gavern, thanks for posting that.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Roco on October 21, 2007, 06:16:07 PM

Police Search For Shooter In Attack On Atlanta Gay Bar Patrons
by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff


Posted: October 21, 2007 - 1:00 pm ET

(Atlanta, Georgia) Police are searching for a drive by shooter who fired on a group people on their way to a popular Atlanta gay club.

Witnesses say the group of about five had stopped at a convenience store on their way to Wet Bar early Friday morning when a man entered the store and began yelling gay epithets at the group.

He then left the store, go into his vehicle, and drove off.

As the group made its way to the nearby club the car approached them.  A window was rolled down and the man began firing.

Two people were slightly wounded. The others were unhurt.

Wet Bar was hosting the closing party for the Out on Film film festival at the time.

It is not the first time patrons of an Atlanta gay club have been attacked.

Four people were injured when a pipe bomb went off near the doorway of Otherside Lounge in February 21, 1997. The bombing occurred about 9:30 pm, just as the club was beginning to fill up.

After patrons were evacuated from the club, investigators discovered and detonated a second bomb that had been hung in shrubs overlooking the parking lot.

Serial bomber Eric Rudolph is serving time in prison for the attack and bombings at two abortion clinics and the 1996 bombing at the Atlanta Olympics.
 
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on October 21, 2007, 06:18:21 PM
Oh God!  So sorry to hear this has happened again to the good folks in Atlanta.  Thanks for your post roco.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Brokeback_1 on October 22, 2007, 04:32:44 AM
This crap is so crazy.

Why are people so afraid of 'different?'

Why do they HATE so much....
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: john john on October 22, 2007, 07:45:26 AM
This crap is so crazy.

Why are people so afraid of 'different?'

Why do they HATE so much....

Maybe because they hate themselves...
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gavern on October 22, 2007, 06:44:14 PM
Yes they hate what they feel, trust me I know, what i used to hate, what was in me, now that I love that part, I am free.

Hate is what causes people to get sick, including jealousy, and a million other bad emotions, when that all builds up, they explode and hence you get shootings and other mad events, it's a complete collective consciousness of thought that creates them, now if that is so, just imagine how much good can come from collective consciousness, like for instance this forum? The wonderful movie BBM and the seed of it the "The short story", now one huge collective consciousness of absolutely good! :) that started from the imagination of one mind, Annie's, that's how powerful just ONE human being can be, either way.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on November 21, 2007, 12:00:22 PM
The latest report on gay bashing is out (for 2006) - it's up from 2005 according to FBI statistics:

Gay-bashings up in 2006
PlanetOut Network 
Tue Nov 20, 7:29 PM ET 

Hate crimes against gays made up 16 percent of total documented hate crimes across the U.S. in 2006, up from 14 percent in 2005, the FBI reported Monday.

The rate of all bias-motivated crimes increased 8 percent in 2006. Hate crimes based on sexual orientation are the third most common type behind those based on race and religion, according to the annual report.

Story continues here:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/po/20071121/co_po/gaybashingsupin2006;_ylt=AuR.monFdSKP8f2iaZW3yBAE1vAI

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on November 21, 2007, 01:59:42 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/po/20071121/co_po/gaybashingsupin2006;_ylt=AuR.monFdSKP8f2iaZW3yBAE1vAI

Existing federal hate-crimes law covers only those based on a victim's race, color, religion, and national origin.

I'm really confused about whether sexual orientation is covered or not, and to what extent. I know that it is not in the original 1969 legislation, but I remembered something about it back during the Clinton years, and I found the following at Wikipedia:

1.

Hate Crime Statistics Act (1990)

    Main article: Hate Crime Statistics Act

The Hate Crime Statistics Act, 28 U.S.C. § 534, requires the Attorney General to collect data on crimes committed because of the victim's race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, or ethnicity. The bill was signed into law in 1990 by George H. W. Bush, and was the first federal statute to "recognize and name gay, lesbian and bisexual people." Since 1992, the Department of Justice and the FBI have jointly published an annual report on hate crime statistics.

In 1994 Congress expanded the scope to include crimes based on disability, and in 1996 Congress permanently reauthorized the Act.


…and 2.

Hate Crime Sentencing Enhancement Act (1994)

The Hate Crime Sentencing Enhancement Act, enacted in 28 U.S.C. § 994 note Sec. 280003, requires the United States Sentencing Commission to increase the penalties for hate crimes committed on the basis of the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, ethnicity, gender, disability, or sexual orientation of any person. In 1995, the Sentencing Commission implemented these guidelines, which only apply to federal crimes.

Looking at the numbers over at the FBI site tells me that this kind of legislation has been completely ineffective in deterring hate crimes, or reducing their numbers. While some years have been better than others, the overall trend has basically been increasing ever so slightly (almost flat-lined) since the FBI started keeping track of these crimes. I don't know how the press in this article rounds their numbers, but according to the FBI website the 2005 value for sexual orientation crimes is 13.8% (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2005/victims.htm), and the 2006 value is 15.3% (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2006/victims.html). The difference is +1.5%

Again looking at the data at the FBI links above, they show that 66.4% of racially-motivated hate crimes (which comprise 52.1% of all hate crimes) were against blacks in 2006. Since the whole idea of hate crimes legislation back in 1969 was to protect blacks in the first place, we can see that these kinds of laws are not worth the paper they are written on.

America should be putting its vast energies and intellect into real, actionable solutions to our problems, and stop wasting our time and money on ineffective, “feel-good” legislation.

Milo
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on November 21, 2007, 03:44:15 PM
Again looking at the data at the FBI links above, they show that 66.4% of racially-motivated hate crimes (which comprise 52.1% of all hate crimes) were against blacks in 2006. Since the whole idea of hate crimes legislation back in 1969 was to protect blacks in the first place, we can see that these kinds of laws are not worth the paper they are written on.

America should be putting its vast energies and intellect into real, actionable solutions to our problems, and stop wasting our time and money on ineffective, “feel-good” legislation.

Milo

I don't think they're putting that much energy into it Milo, if incidents like the ones in Jena, LA and  the recent torture case in West Virginia are any indication (not to mention all of the weird noose incidents that seem to keep turning up).

It's always been my opinion that these annual reports are merely tracking reports.  I have never particularly felt there has been any attempt to enforce or dissuade this sort of behavior in the general public.  The fact that we are still talking about this nearly 40 years after Dr. King's assassination speaks volumes.

I also have to say that I rather doubt the numbers in these statistics.  I had one incident in the past where (after having someone try to run me over with a motorcycle and yell 'faggot' over their shoulder) the person at the hotline I was reporting it too said 'what do you expect me to do about it.'  It took me a few more incidents of this sort before I started reporting them again.  I can only imagine that with something as pervasive and long standing as racism and racial violence that many people have just given up and don't report crimes as crimes of bias any more.  And, of course, you always have people denying the reality you experience - and it's not easy to report this sort of thing in the face of people who seem to believe it doesn't exist or that it's a thing of the past.  I know that there are friends of mine that I've stopped talking about this sort of thing with as they are constantly saying 'oh, kids these days are different' - in the face of reports of violent crime.  It's discouraging.

I'm a little unclear as to what the answers are - although I do think that if we had more people thinking like the Panthers used to and less like Sean John or Lil' Rick that people might think twice before acting foolish - but then again I might just be showing my age.

*rant over*

(but I'm not bitter.... ;D)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 23, 2007, 05:03:24 AM
Hate crimes rose 8 percent in 2006


By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN, Associated Press Writer
Mon Nov 19, 6:45 PM ET
 


WASHINGTON - Hate crime incidents rose nearly 8 percent last year, the FBI reported Monday, as civil rights advocates increasingly take to the streets to protest what they call official indifference to intimidation and attacks against blacks and other minorities.

Police across the nation reported 7,722 criminal incidents in 2006 targeting victims or property as a result of bias against a race, religion, sexual orientation, ethnic or national origin or physical or mental disability. That was up 7.8 percent from 7,163 incidents reported in 2005.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071119/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/hate_crimes
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: chapeaugris on November 23, 2007, 06:05:39 AM
I also have to say that I rather doubt the numbers in these statistics.  I had one incident in the past where (after having someone try to run me over with a motorcycle and yell 'faggot' over their shoulder) the person at the hotline I was reporting it too said 'what do you expect me to do about it.'  It took me a few more incidents of this sort before I started reporting them again.  I can only imagine that with something as pervasive and long standing as racism and racial violence that many people have just given up and don't report crimes as crimes of bias any more.  And, of course, you always have people denying the reality you experience - and it's not easy to report this sort of thing in the face of people who seem to believe it doesn't exist or that it's a thing of the past.  I know that there are friends of mine that I've stopped talking about this sort of thing with as they are constantly saying 'oh, kids these days are different' - in the face of reports of violent crime.  It's discouraging.
This reminded me of an email I received from an old friend in New Jersey the other day. I hadn't mentioned  Brokeback or the forum to him until last week. He wrote back:

"I liked Brokeback Mountain. It was very disturbing to me, however. I feel like I've lived with that psychological violence that is sometimes directed at me by homophobic people and was by my father from time to time, for years. It's very unsettling, very threatening, very scary and very difficult to explain to people. They'll say, oh, you're too sensitive, so and so is a great guy. Well, I feel it from time to time, and I'm not paranoid. At least the laws are protecting us more in the workplace."

It's always astonishing to me that people who are never going to be a target of an individual's homophobia, racism, sexism, whatever, feel they can tell someone else they are being paranoid for picking up those vibes.
 
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on November 23, 2007, 02:34:59 PM
It's always astonishing to me that people who are never going to be a target of an individual's homophobia, racism, sexism, whatever, feel they can tell someone else they are being paranoid for picking up those vibes.

I first became aware of the damage that ignoring or disputing other people's reality does when I was back in college taking women's studies classes.  At the time women were being called paranoid or harpies (or worse) for being concerned about how they were perceived by men - and how that related to things like rape.  And the tags that people get saddled with when they point out what they see - 'shrill' women, 'angry' blacks, 'timid' homosexuals - are just as damaging as the denial of reality.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on November 23, 2007, 02:43:46 PM
I first became aware of the damage that ignoring or disputing other people's reality does when I was back in college taking women's studies classes.  At the time women were being called paranoid or harpies (or worse) for being concerned about how they were perceived by men - and how that related to things like rape.  And the tags that people get saddled with when they point out what they see - 'shrill' women, 'angry' blacks, 'timid' homosexuals - are just as damaging as the denial of reality.

True. it is almost impossible for me to explain to a heterosexual or a non-black person what it feels like, or how I know that someone else is giving of a "vibe."

But the flip side of that is people who blame everything that doesn't go their way to people being prejudiced. its like: "no...its not because you're 'queer'...its because you're an asshole."

Milo
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on November 23, 2007, 02:48:44 PM
But the flip side of that is people who blame everything that doesn't go their way to people being prejudiced. its like: "no...its not because you're 'queer'...its because you're an asshole."

People who use their orientation, race, gender or whatever as an excuse for whatever is going wrong in their lives do severe damage to the arguments of people who have faced real discrimination - I agree completely.  And sadly there are people who have made their entire professional lives out of pushing this sort of thing - sort of professional sympathy vampires.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on November 30, 2007, 01:24:33 AM
Well...this is somewhat creepy - it appears that this poor individual's death was involved in getting a person membership in the United Aryan Brotherhood:

http://www.edgedallas.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=glbt&sc2=&sc3=&id=53043
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on November 30, 2007, 10:28:35 AM
Well...this is somewhat creepy - it appears that this poor individual's death was involved in getting a person membership in the United Aryan Brotherhood:

http://www.edgedallas.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=glbt&sc2=&sc3=&id=53043

Killing someone as the price of admission to gangs is becoming all to common these days.

I wish the article went into more depth on the story. It appears that Madden (who is gay) conspired with Qualls to kill Domer, and then after the murder was carried out, Madden turned around and killed Qualls. This story has too many layers of crazy to count.

Ahhhh...makes me long for the good 'ol days when the Mafia ran things.

Milo
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 08, 2007, 06:35:17 PM
Killing someone as the price of admission to gangs is becoming all to common these days.

I wish the article went into more depth on the story. It appears that Madden (who is gay) conspired with Qualls to kill Domer, and then after the murder was carried out, Madden turned around and killed Qualls. This story has too many layers of crazy to count.

Ahhhh...makes me long for the good 'ol days when the Mafia ran things.

Milo


hey, you pickin' on Italians?   ;)  ;D

I have read numerous stories in papers regarding your first sentance, Milo.  Gangs let someone in as a new member, once they kill someone.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gavern on December 09, 2007, 09:51:09 PM
In my experience (being badly gay bashed myself once upon a time) most gay bashers are GAY themselves, yup it's what see in themselves. Years later I walked into a bar (gay bar) in my home town only to find, not one but TWO of the worst gay bashers in school times, sitting and one of them kissing another guy! Huh! I went up to him and for one second I though I am going kill this guy (he was VERY bad in the past to many people, including putting a dead dog in my gay friends school bag) but I took a deep breath and said to him "Zane I forgive you" he turned red and started to cry, and that was one of the best days of my life. Trust me there are many more of his type in fact I would say 1 in 3 men are like him. Shows you forgiveness helps more than a fist.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 09, 2007, 10:49:20 PM
Well Gavern, in my all too plentiful experience I'd have to say that the majority of times I didn't know anything about my attacker's sexuality or personality.  I've had folks throw rock and bottles from cars and one guy pull a knife on me on the way home from a club.  All people I didn't know - so had no basis to judge their sexuality.  And I first used my legs to get out of those situations - I would have used my fists if I had to - I don't think forgiveness works well on the anonymous stranger.  And another case it doesn't work too well on is the mentally ill - the last case of that was a person who approached me two years ago on our subway.  He had decided I was human garbage because I was gay (I didn't have to ask, he freely volunteered this information).  I simply got away from him by not engaging him and leaving at the next stop.  He had threatened violence too.

In fact since High School I haven't known any of my attackers.

The most important thing is to live through it.  If you think talking (or forgiveness) will work - go for it.  If you think running will work run.  The point is to live on to fight another day.  I go to a gym and run on a treadmill so that I have the stamina to run if I need to.  I carry a cellphone with me and keep it on.  I don't walk around with headphones on - and try not to lose touch with my surroundings when on the phone.

And it's not about thinking of yourself as a victim - it's about thinking about yourself as a survivor.  One of my favorite books about this sort of thing is Gavin De Becker's book 'The Gift of Fear.'  He suggests that you follow your gut instinct - if things don't feel right to you, they probably aren't.  De Becker's book was written with women in mind, but there is a big crossover in his advice.

http://www.amazon.com/Fear-Survival-Signals-Protect-Violence/dp/B00007MF53/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1197265428&sr=1-1

One other point about forgiveness - when you give forgiveness to someone you are assuming the moral high ground - and that just angers some people.

But hey - if it worked for you then nothing succeeds like success!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: brian on December 09, 2007, 11:45:21 PM
I think Gavern was talking about a very different situation to yours Michael, the attacks from one's schoolmates or workmates rather than the anonymous stranger.  When I was out as a teacher, I found that in a number of cases the students who gave me the most flak admitted much later they were gay, sometimes after they had left school.  While it was difficult, I realised that it was the struggle they were having  with society's norms that made them act that way.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 10, 2007, 12:06:41 AM
I agree - that's why I noted that I haven't known any attackers since High School.  It's a very different situation when you know people.  When that happens I think that sexuality comes into play, much as Gavern says.

However, when they don't know you and you don't know them you just can't guess these things.  That was my point - it's important to get away from your attacker as opposed to engaging them.

The fortunate thing is that I've noticed that as you get older most people just assume you don't have a sexuality any more and random anonymous bashings seem to go down - in my experience, at least.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on December 10, 2007, 02:35:16 AM

Michael, I was not aware of the existence of this thread. I just discovered it, find it highly important and, alas, necessary - and I promise myself to read it from the very start.
Remember this French author I was telling you about on our way from SF to S Br? I'll soon give an extended report on his theories and arguments about the "insult" being at the very beginning of gay identity in Western cultures. Just need some time before doing so.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on December 10, 2007, 07:38:38 AM
The most important thing is to live through it.  If you think talking (or forgiveness) will work - go for it.  If you think running will work run.  The point is to live on to fight another day.  I go to a gym and run on a treadmill so that I have the stamina to run if I need to.  I carry a cellphone with me and keep it on.  I don't walk around with headphones on - and try not to lose touch with my surroundings when on the phone.

And it's not about thinking of yourself as a victim - it's about thinking about yourself as a survivor.  One of my favorite books about this sort of thing is Gavin De Becker's book 'The Gift of Fear.'  He suggests that you follow your gut instinct - if things don't feel right to you, they probably aren't.  De Becker's book was written with women in mind, but there is a big crossover in his advice.

http://www.amazon.com/Fear-Survival-Signals-Protect-Violence/dp/B00007MF53/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1197265428&sr=1-1

I agree with you 100% about staying in touch with your environment when you're out in public. I think people who are walking around on their cell phones, or with music blasting in their ears are unwittingly making themselves potential targets for attack. People forget that thieves, rapists, bashers, etc. are often looking for an opportunity. Don't give them one.

I also agree 100% about the intuition factor. Many times we get a negative or dangerous vibe from a person or a situation. I personally have felt this many times, and have felt compelled to remove myself from such a situation, or put distance between myself and those people. I know that I have avoided numerous confrontations this way. Based on what I read at Amazon about the book you mention, I think it is smart advice, and a good skill to develop.

But I also think that this book presents only a first step when it comes to self defense. I firmly believe that all citizens need to learn how to engage a bully, criminal, or attacker. Whether that level of engagement is verbal or physical, your average Joe/Jane needs to know what to do. We don't spend nearly enough time learning how to defend ourselves. Why these kinds of skills are not included in Physical Education classes in America's schools is a mystery to me. I don't know where to find such a thing, but I'm sure that there are experts out there who can coach children on how to deal with bullies' verbal attacks. I know that there plenty of places where both children and adults can go to learn how to fight off an attacker. And there are also places where adults can go to learn how to use weapons.

Milo
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 10, 2007, 10:30:13 AM
But I also think that this book presents only a first step when it comes to self defense. I firmly believe that all citizens need to learn how to engage a bully, criminal, or attacker. Whether that level of engagement is verbal or physical, your average Joe/Jane needs to know what to do. We don't spend nearly enough time learning how to defend ourselves. Why these kinds of skills are not included in Physical Education classes in America's schools is a mystery to me. I don't know where to find such a thing, but I'm sure that there are experts out there who can coach children on how to deal with bullies' verbal attacks. I know that there plenty of places where both children and adults can go to learn how to fight off an attacker. And there are also places where adults can go to learn how to use weapons.

Milo

Yes, you're right.  I was headed in that direction with the whole issue of going to the gym to keep in shape.  There are several kinds of self-defense training that people can learn.  Heidi and I had discussed Hapkido (sp?) which was apparently designed to deliver pain through pressure points - whatever training you can get is a good idea.

Again, from my perspective the point is to survive the attack - whatever it takes to do this.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 10, 2007, 10:31:11 AM
Michael, I was not aware of the existence of this thread. I just discovered it, find it highly important and, alas, necessary - and I promise myself to read it from the very start.
Remember this French author I was telling you about on our way from SF to S Br? I'll soon give an extended report on his theories and arguments about the "insult" being at the very beginning of gay identity in Western cultures. Just need some time before doing so.

Yes, Ingmar, I do remember.  I look forward to the report.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Roco on January 02, 2008, 08:26:25 PM
'SORRY, WE CAN'T HELP YOU'   by Harley Dennett

Police told the victim of a brutal homophobic assault and robbery they had already spent too much time on his case to check CCTV footage or trace threatening phone calls made from his stolen mobile phone.

http://www.ssonet.com.au/display.asp?ArticleID=7569
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: estefue on January 03, 2008, 09:32:56 AM
Shameful.  It surprises me sometimes how conservative Australia can be...
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Roco on January 05, 2008, 07:04:23 AM
 
 
Friday, January 4, 2008
 
2nd man guilty in fatal beating death
Victim, 32, was from Crothersville

By Harold J. Adams
hjadams@courier-journal.com
The Courier-Journa

lA second man has pleaded guilty in the beating death last year of 32-year-old Crothersville resident Aaron "Shorty" Hall.
 
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080104/NEWS02/801040403
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 05, 2008, 12:13:46 PM
How appallingly stupid.  This shows the bind that rural gay men find themselves in - if they don't partner up and make a pass at the wrong guy they wind up dead.  It's no wonder there has been a general flight from rural areas and that people do things like try to pick each other up at rest areas.  At least there they know the other person is interested.

Of course the alcohol in this slaying is all too apparent too.  All the wrong murderous inhibitions let all too loose.

Friday, January 4, 2008
 
2nd man guilty in fatal beating death
Victim, 32, was from Crothersville

By Harold J. Adams
hjadams@courier-journal.com
The Courier-Journa

lA second man has pleaded guilty in the beating death last year of 32-year-old Crothersville resident Aaron "Shorty" Hall.
http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080104/NEWS02/801040403

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on January 18, 2008, 10:26:57 PM
 News reports of an increase in gay bashings in Sydney's Oxford Street

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=368597 (http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=368597)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: brian on January 18, 2008, 10:42:48 PM
Also an aricle in the Sydney Morning Herald.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/gays-on-the-march-after-attacks/2008/01/18/1200620213002.html
It has become complicated as there are allegations the attackers were Aboriginal so racism is now involved as well as homophobia
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: brian on January 21, 2008, 08:58:52 PM
Further to the article in my previous post. This letter is in today's edition
Hide or seek?

As an older bloke from the 1950s I think it would be wiser if the gay movement didn't march against gay bashings ("Gays on march after spate of attacks", January 19-20). A quiet retreat back to a less-seen lifestyle would be more appropriate.


Graeme Gibson Sylvania

My opinons of him are unprintable.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Bronte29 on January 24, 2008, 03:18:27 PM
Sorry to bother everybody with this, but I have a question about gay bashing. My sister and her partner and I were in a store the other day, and had an awful experience. She and her girlfriend were holding hands and this woman marched up, young daughter in tow, got in my sisters face and proceeded to spew hate. She was very loud, extremely angry that they were "flaunting their disgusting behavior" for her young daughter to see. We were shocked, have never experienced this before, and were speechless. My sis is pretty traumatized by this and is scared now to be in public with her girlfriend. My husband, who is a policeman, said he would have arrested that woman on the spot for harassment, but realistically, how does anyone handle this? I know it sounds strange, but it felt like we were all three violated in some way. I was shaking with anger, as were they, and couldn't calm down for days. Any suggestions or thoughts would be very much appreciated. Thank you in advance.
                                                     Blessed Be
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 24, 2008, 03:39:45 PM
Bronte29 perhaps the most simple way to deal with someone like that is to turn around and walk away from them.  There is no reasoning with someone like that - the woman has problems.  She could have gone to the store manager and ask that the woman be escorted from the store for verbally abusing her - but that's a 50/50 proposition because you don't know how the store manager would react.

Perhaps, thought, the only think I would have said to the woman is that she has made this a big issue for her daughter by making such a big deal of it in the store.

Your sister needs to get out in public again - that she has never experienced something like this should tell her and you that this is not common behavior.

If you are near a major city contact the Gay organizations at nearby universities to ask if there are any places to report this behavior.  You might also want to put a letter about the experience in your local gay press too.  You should let people know this is happening, if possible, so that they can watch for this woman.

That's all I can think of right now, but I'll think on it more.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 24, 2008, 04:48:01 PM
Okay, I'm back.  Sorry Bronte29 - you caught me before my morning coffee, and I'm not much good before that.  Here is a website for local Anti-Violence Programs from the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs:

http://www.ncavp.org/AVPs/default.aspx

If you click on your state at the top it will give you a phone number that you can contact close to you. 

Here is that site's page on verbal harassment:

http://www.ncavp.org/issues/Bias.aspx

I've just called my local anti-violence program (CUAV) here in San Francisco and the counselor on the phone said that your sister should really call the local anti-violence program - that they do talk to people about the specific situations they find themselves in and talk about what they could do and what they should do in the future.

And here is the website for the Colorado Anti-Violence Program:

http://www.coavp.org/

Please take care of yourself and your sister.  Know that this is not something that you did - that you are dealing with someone who has an agenda.  I send you love and support.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: brian on January 24, 2008, 05:01:20 PM
I also send love but in many ways your sister did her best in the circumstances. The mother showed her lack of control in front of her daughter and to have shouted back would have portrayed your sister in a similar way. Hopefully any bystanders were sympathetic to your sister rather than the woman even if they kept quiet. Unless you can develop a quiet, cutting rejoinder (very hard) it is best to keep cool and show the woman is beneath your contempt.
I am glad that several years ago I (a grey haired 60 year old) congratulated 2 young men similarly holding hands in our local supermarket.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on January 24, 2008, 08:27:40 PM
Bronte29,

I too am sorry that this happened to your sister, to you, to the attacker's young child, and to the other innocent by-standers who witnessed it. I read what your husband said, but I'm wondering if someone can be arrested for verbal harassment or not. I guess a police officer could have cited the woman for creating a public disturbance. But since there were apparently no law enforcement or security personnel available, the three of you were on your own and needed to defend yourselves.

In this situation, it was just a verbal assault, but there is no guarantee that it could not turn physical. My advice would have been to walk away from the assailant, with at least one of you backing away while keeping an eye on her and not to turn around until you were out of striking distance. If the woman was crazy enough to follow you, then the three of you should close ranks and face her issuing a strong (loud) verbal warning. If she made even the slightest move towards a physical assault, knock her on her on her ass.

Being assaulted by a stranger in public is not the time to be witty or passive-aggressive.

Milo

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 24, 2008, 08:38:27 PM
Being assaulted by a stranger in public is not the time to be witty or passive-aggressive.

Milo

I absolutely agree.  Top priority should be to get away from the person in question.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Marcos on February 11, 2008, 09:06:46 PM
is there really such thing? I mean, "gay" bashing? Sometimes it just happens to be rejection and it happens to everyone:the fat kid bullied at school,the old person who´s constantly treaten like he´s not even there,ethnical minorities,you name it.People need to discriminate,no matter the reason,they do it.And if you look not much like what majority assumes it´s normal,you´re gonna be cast aside,discriminated,even physicly abused.I think i´ve been bashed all my life, for every possible reason,except for this one...
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 11, 2008, 09:51:56 PM
is there really such thing? I mean, "gay" bashing? Sometimes it just happens to be rejection and it happens to everyone:the fat kid bullied at school,the old person who´s constantly treaten like he´s not even there,ethnical minorities,you name it.People need to discriminate,no matter the reason,they do it.And if you look not much like what majority assumes it´s normal,you´re gonna be cast aside,discriminated,even physicly abused.I think i´ve been bashed all my life, for every possible reason,except for this one...

Yes there is such a thing - and I've witnessed it directly for years.  I've had people throw bottles and stones from from cars yelling 'fag', people try to run me over with a motorcycle while shouting similar things and a person who told me (in a very quiet tone of voice) that I was unnatural and perverse and that the next time he saw me he was going to beat me - and that's just the start.

The fact that there is gay bashing (and that there are statistics kept on it) does not in any way deny that there are hate crimes against people because of age or race.  And statistics are kept on these types of things as well - I've posted links to this in the past from the FBI - not exactly the type of group that you would expect to make things up.  And here is what the American Psychological Association had to say about gay bashing in 1998:

http://legalminds.lp.findlaw.com/list/queerlaw/msg00327.html

I'm glad for you that you have never been gay bashed - and I'm sorry that you have been attacked for other reasons.  But denying that this occurs or saying that is just the same as all other types of abuse or violence seems similar to saying that domestic violence is the same as all other kinds of violence - just is unrealistic.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Caroline on February 11, 2008, 10:04:41 PM
michael,

just cruising around reading, and read your repsonse .. hey yes, I would totally agree that gay bashing is not acceptable in any form whatsoever... good on you.. admired your post regarding this...

take care
caroline
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 13, 2008, 09:11:26 PM
A 15 year old self-identifying gay student at at an Oxnard school was shot today:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/po/20080214/co_po/gay15yearoldshotatcalifmiddleschool;_ylt=Am.nvI9yHhiCclNsf7eO4lgE1vAI

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-oxnard13feb13,1,497027.story
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BrokenOkie on February 14, 2008, 12:03:54 AM
On Tuesday night, January 29, 2008, an anti-gay mob invaded a private home in Greenvale, Manchester (Jamaica). The mob attacked three gay men inside, beating them and hacking them with machetes. Two of the men have been hospitalized with serious injuries; one had his ear cut off. One man remains unaccounted for and is feared dead.

More info, history and call to action by UFMCC:

http://www.mccchurch.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Home&Template=/CM/HTMLDisplay.cfm&ContentID=4134

http://www.mccchurch.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Home&Template=/CM/HTMLDisplay.cfm&ContentID=4113

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on February 14, 2008, 01:31:34 AM
Marcos,

Yes gay-bashing is a real thing. According to FBI statistics, about 13.5% of hate crimes were motivated by the victim's homosexuality.

I would also point out that my race has been the main cause for verbal and physical assaults. Luckily, I'm big, black, and ugly so I can fight back. Not many people are willing to fuck with me.

Milo
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 14, 2008, 10:38:56 AM
I would also point out that my race has been the main cause for verbal and physical assaults. Luckily, I'm big, black, and ugly so I can fight back. Not many people are willing to fuck with me.

Milo

He's not ugly Marcos - we've seen photos!  But (aside from the initial LOL) there are a few comments I'd make.  When I was working at the AIDS archival organization with a friend who was both big (he's a weightlifter) and black I did notice that no one said anything homophobic to either of us when we were together - and that was over a period of 5 years in the early 90s, so it was a time when people were looking at gay folks as a target more than ever (with AIDS being a source of conflict in San Francisco).  So I would generally agree that bashers are chicken**** and do not attack people who they think could possibly fight back.

But I would be very remiss here if I didn't mention that I've never been attacked by a black person and the VAST majority of the attacks I've experienced have been from other white people.  That included both homophobic and general attacks on the street here.  And just to be clear, that's not some kind of white liberal guilt speaking - I noticed this starting in the 70s, when I had a car of white teens throw bottles at a friend and I (and call us 'Devo faggots' - we had just been at a Devo concert) and continued to notice it up till a year ago when the (white)  psycho on the underground told me I was 'human garbage' and that he was going to beat me up.

This may be entirely a function of in-group monitoring - that people feel more threatened by people they perceive as being more alike than unlike themselves acting in a fashion they consider inappropriate - or it just may be my experience.  I certainly know people who have experienced what Milo is describing - but it's not my experience at all - and I've been attacked over a dozen times.

The one thing that I would point out (since we're getting into demographics) is that the incidence of attacks on me has gone WAY down in.  My own particular thought on this is that people don't gay bash older people as much as they don't believe anyone over 40 has sex.  ;) :D
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 14, 2008, 10:45:41 AM
The 15 year old who was shot yesterday in Oxnard, CA has died.  Here is the follow up story:

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/california/la-me-oxnard14feb14,1,955781.story

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/14/gay-teen-shot-by-classmat_n_86632.html

http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2008/02/14/school-shootings-and-hate-crimes-here-at-home-sadly-yes/


Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 14, 2008, 10:49:19 AM
This is truly horrible - thanks for letting us know.

On Tuesday night, January 29, 2008, an anti-gay mob invaded a private home in Greenvale, Manchester (Jamaica). The mob attacked three gay men inside, beating them and hacking them with machetes. Two of the men have been hospitalized with serious injuries; one had his ear cut off. One man remains unaccounted for and is feared dead.

More info, history and call to action by UFMCC:

http://www.mccchurch.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Home&Template=/CM/HTMLDisplay.cfm&ContentID=4134

http://www.mccchurch.org/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Home&Template=/CM/HTMLDisplay.cfm&ContentID=4113

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on February 14, 2008, 02:34:29 PM
My own particular thought on this is that people don't gay bash older people as much as they don't believe anyone over 40 has sex.  ;) :D

BWAAAHAAHAAHAA!!!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: fritzkep on February 14, 2008, 07:44:22 PM
My own particular thought on this is that people don't gay bash older people as much as they don't believe anyone over 40 has sex.  ;) :D

BWAAAHAAHAAHAA!!!

We don't?!  ;)

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on February 14, 2008, 11:54:28 PM
My own particular thought on this is that people don't gay bash older people as much as they don't believe anyone over 40 has sex.  ;) :D

BWAAAHAAHAAHAA!!!

We don't?!  ;)



Some of us don't now that 50 is the new 40
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: fritzkep on February 15, 2008, 01:34:54 PM
Does that mean 60 is the new 50?

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 15, 2008, 01:53:21 PM
Back to the topic of Gay Bashing....

Attacks on LGBTs seen to rise in Seattle
Thu Feb 14, 8:48 PM ET

SUMMARY: The city's Capitol Hill neighborhood has seen a recent spike in malicious acts against gays and transgender people, reports the Seattle Times.

The Capitol Hill section of Seattle has seen a recent spike in malicious harassment incidents targeting gays and transgender people, the Seattle Times reported.

In October, a transgender woman was walking down Broadway Avenue when she was approached by a man. He immediately demanded to know whether she was "a man" and proceeded to call her names and motion as if he were going to hit her. The man, later identified as Charles Schewe, has been arrested and is awaiting sentencing.

Several other incidents in which perpetrators have shouted anti-gay epithets or assaulted gay men have been reported in the past 12 months and are being investigated. (The Advocate)

[article continues here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/po/20080215/co_po/attacksonlgbtsseentoriseinseattle;_ylt=Aq3ZhjSXUvVSmL6nrRSAot4E1vAI]

Here is the original article from the Seattle Times:

Capitol Hill sees spike in malicious harassment attacks
By Nancy Bartley
Seattle Times staff reporter
Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - Page updated at 11:10 AM

"Humiliating." "Embarrassing." "Terrifying."

That's how a transgender woman described being accosted by a man who she says called her names and threatened her as she walked down a Capitol Hill street in the middle of the day.

The Oct. 20 incident, which resulted in the arrest of a man, is one of several similar incidents on Capitol Hill since June. King County Senior Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Mike Hogan says it's part of a spike in malicious-harassment incidents targeting gays and transgender people on Capitol Hill.

Hogan said the incidents appear to be random and not part of any organized effort.

Seattle police also are looking at an incident early on Feb. 3 on Capitol Hill when two gay men were assaulted by the occupants of a fast-moving car after the victims motioned for the driver to slow down.

Police say they have not determined whether that case meets the legal definition of malicious harassment, this state's version of a hate crime. In such crimes, the victims are targeted specifically because of their gender, race, religion, sexual orientation or disability.

Witnesses to that attack say the assailants shouted anti-gay slurs at the men.

The other incidents on Capitol Hill include a June incident at a Broadway service station in which a man was arrested and charged with malicious harassment for making anti-gay remarks. He pleaded guilty as charged.

In July, a gay man was assaulted and his tooth knocked out. His attacker was sentenced to 14 months in prison.

{article continues here: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004180221_webgays13m.html}
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on February 15, 2008, 02:51:12 PM
per michael's request...


(http://www.gayamericanheroes.net/sitebuilder/images/Lawrence_King-131x200.png)
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Contact:        Scott Hall (321) 586-8738
                      Founder and President, Gay American Heroes
GayAmericanHeroes@yahoo.com

Gay Hate crime Murder in school, openly gay student, 15 year-old Lawrence King, the next HERO to be remembered on the
Gay American Heroes National Memorial? www.GayAmericanHeroes.com

A National Memorial honoring all LGBT persons who have been murdered because of their sexual orientation and identity.

All people who live honestly about their sexual orientation or gender identity are heroic, as it takes great strength and courage to face the daily struggles for personal freedom in the face of enormous opposition; to ultimately give their life for said freedom makes them...HEROES.



Gay student in Oxnard, California declared brain dead. Police Confirm and File Hate-Crime Charges.
Ft. Lauderdale, FL (February 15, 2008) - On February 13th 15-year-old Lawrence King was declared brain dead after he was shot  by a fellow student at Oxnard Junior High School. King, an openly gay student, was shot during his first period English Class in front of twenty four other students.  According to classmates, King was known to wear makeup and feminine jewelry to school and was in conflict with other boys for his open display.

"He would come to school in high-heeled boots, makeup, jewelry and painted nails -- the whole thing," said Michael Sweeney, 13, an eighth-grader. "That was freaking the guys out."

As of today, King is being kept on life support for possible organ donations after being declared brain dead by neurosurgeons at the St. John's Medical Center in Oxnard California. Police are still investigating and the district attorney has yet to determine if the unnamed juvenile suspect will be tried in juvenile court or charged as an adult for murder.  The police and district attorney have determined that the suspect will be charged with a hate crime.
"Anti-gay prejudice continues to take the lives of innocent people, that is why the Gay American Heroes project is so important", said Congressman Barney Frank.
 
Daniela Sea, of HBO’s The L Word, added: "I just heard the news about Lawrence King being murdered and all I can think of, over and over, is not again. His Junior High school was just 20 miles from my childhood home. It could so easily have been me. It's that close to home. What an amazing spirit he possessed. To express himself so openly and bravely at such a young age is nothing less than heroic. And the fact that he was killed for being honest and open about who he was is a disgrace and a huge tragedy. He will not be forgotten. We all should honor his memory by doing all we can to stop these hate crimes."

From South Florida, syndicated television’s Judge David Young concluded: "Lawrence King was yet another victim of a cruel and vicious attack simply because he was different. As a society, we can never tolerate violence against anyone who looks different or acts atypical of what is often considered normal. The perpetrators of this heinous hate crime should be tried as adults and suffer the consequences for their actions.  Moreover, their parents should bear some of the responsibility for their child's behavior, which is something that is learned."

"This is a unnecessary tragedy. And let us no forget the twenty plus other LGBT murders that we know of in 2007, such as 25 year old Ryan Keith Skipper of Florida and 20 year old Sean Kennedy of South Carolina. We are calling on local officials to do a thorough investigation involving an openly, gay student and we will keep a close watch as the investigation proceeds regarding this terrible crime. Our thoughts go out to the entire King family and thank them for their courage in having Lawrence's organs help other people live," said Scott Hall Founder of Gay American Heroes.

To read stories about King's murder please see LA Times online and Gay American Heroes on the links below.

http://www.latimes.com/news/la-me-oxnard13feb13,0,432082.story

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-oxnard14feb14,0,7204301.story

www.GayAmericanHeroes.com

About Gay American Heroes Foundation
Gay American Heroes Foundation is committed to education and remembrance of those who died because of their sexual orientation and gender identity via a traveling memorial and educational exhibition which will travel across the United States to universities, colleges and communities where hate crimes have occurred.  Information on Gay American Heroes Foundation may be found at www.GayAmericanHeroes.com
Gay American Heroes Foundation, Inc. is a Florida not for profit corporation and is in the process of obtaining IRS recognition of its 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status.  Pending such recognition, GAHF operates under the fiscal sponsorship of Dade Community Foundation, Inc. in Miami, Florida, which is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organization.  Donations made to GAHF via the Gay American Heroes Fund at Dade Community Foundation are therefore deductible to the extent permitted by law.

Gay American Heroes Foundation

ATTN: Scott Hall, Founder and President
1350 East Sunrise Blvd, Suite 119
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33304
954.636.1775 or 321.506.8738

www.GayAmericanHeroes.com

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on February 15, 2008, 02:52:18 PM
Statement from Fight OUT Loud President, Waymon Hudson   

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
February 15, 2008   
 
Where’s the Outrage??

With the announcement of the shooting death of Lawrence King, just 15, one has to wonder-- where is the outrage and outcry from the public and media?

King was, by all accounts, a young man who was teased at school for his feminine characteristics and sexual orientation.  He was brutally gunned down in school by a fellow student, Brandon McInerney.  Police are still investigating, but have charged McInerney with a hate crime.
I can’t help but notice, however, that no media outlets really seem to be covering this.  The LGBT blogs are buzzing and angry, but the 24 hour news stations are still focusing on anything but the violent loss of this young man. 

It seems the media and public are more concerned with where Britney Spears is, what’s the latest in the old case of a missing pretty white girl in Aruba, or who made American Idol’s top 24.  Meanwhile, young kids are getting shot in school for simply being themselves. 

At the very least it would make sense, with the other horrific school shooting in Illinois, to mention King’s murder.

But still there is silence.
 
Why is the life of a boy living outside the gender-norm less newsworthy?  Why is the general public not having vigils or crying for him?
 
Where is the outrage? 

We can no longer stand by and let our youth get quietly gunned down.  We can no longer turn a blind eye to the effects of anti-LGBT rhetoric and bigotry.  We cannot let this fade into the background.

My heart goes out to the family and friends of Lawrence.

My anger goes out to the people not concerned with the loss of this young life.

I hope our community can come together to make sure the life of this young man is not forgotten.  Let your outrage and anger be heard.  Demand it be recognized.

Demand that Lawrence King’s life, and violent death, not get swept under the rug.

 ###

 Waymon Hudson, founder and President of Fight OUT Loud

 www.fightOUTloud.org
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on February 15, 2008, 02:56:50 PM
and to quote myself...

Quote
 
course, gay bashings are dreadful and have to stop. but what gets to me most is the causal way they are talking about a shooting between two 15 years-olds, as if it was TOTALLY normal that a conflict (whatever nature) between teenagers is settled with firearms. what are we going to become ?
i wish i had more room in my heart, for all the ills perpetrated on children, and by and large i do, but these glbtq kids get lost in the shuffle, and often the very agencies that are designated to help children become their abusers, physically, or worse emotionally and spiritually.  there are so many huge ills in the world, i feel it is the best use of my energy to concentrate on where i can do the most, if any, good.  even if all i do is keep the conversation alive.

let me re-introduce charlie howard.  (http://bp1.blogger.com/_llSiNWi0fpo/R0w_mpB5w6I/AAAAAAAAArI/ZBhRFNfvqCk/s320/charleshoward.jpg)

in 1984 he was taunted and chased and thrown off a bridge into stream, where he drowned.  at the age of 23, he died because he was "different", a sissy, and at the hands of boys not much older than the shooter above.  they were in custody of their parents after a short stint in "reform school", and none, so far as i know have shown any contrition.

i heard this story then and it pierced my heart.  the same wound has been re-opened over and over again for over 20 years.  no one was there to look after me, but i was tougher than most, and lucky.

i can't cure the ills of the world, but i can damn sure do everything in my meager power to provide safe haven and power of example for these kids, and hold the public's feet to the fire when they fail them. 
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 15, 2008, 03:11:06 PM
Thanks Jack - and let me reintroduce Robert Hillsborough.  I believe that I posted this over in the Gay History thread a long time ago.  My friend Jim reminded me that Robert Hillsborough's murder was one of the things that brought about the creation of Community United Against Violence in San Francisco in the late 70s (one of the first anti-violence organizations for violent crimes against LGBT people):

http://thecastro.net/parade/parade/hillsborough77.html

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on February 15, 2008, 04:00:48 PM
- I agree with many of the thoughts expressed in Waymon Hudson's article. America is being more and more numb to these things. The media feeds us an endless stream of non-news (along with plenty of mis-information).

- Here in Philadelphia, we had 392 murders last year and 406 in 2006. The local news reports each and every one. Usually they just say that a man/woman/child was shot/stabbed/beaten, and the part of the city where it happened. Sometimes the reporter will get a name. More rarely, there will be picture of the victim. Even more rare are the interviews with friends/family. Hardly any make the national news. So, no...I would not expect to hear of the death of a single child in Florida all the way up here in Philly.

- One reason that the Illinois shootings is getting so much attention is the number of dead, and the spectacular circumstances of the killing.

- In a way, I'm glad there is no media circus over this child's murder. The press would only turn it into a freak show. They would take his effeminacy any have a field day with it.

Milo
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 15, 2008, 04:34:01 PM
Well there is something to be said for not having Nancy Grace talk about you - but I have to say that I think that what you are talking about in Philly and the lack of mentioning of the death in South Florida are cut out of the same cloth.  The media isn't talking about it because they aren't people that the media are interested in talking about.  That we are still hearing 'news' about Natalie Holloway speaks to this blindness in the media.  This is commonly referred to as the 'missing white woman syndrome':

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman

Your mentioning of the death rates in Philadelphia put this in clear perspective - as does this article on murder rates from the San Francisco Chronicle:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/15/BAQHUF1NG.DTL&hw=murders+2007+Oakland&sn=015&sc=228

Gay bashings and the lack of concern for who (and how many) are dying in our cities are similar - they both concern people who are 'devalued' in the public eye.  Thanks for mentioning it.  Clearly what Britney Spears does on any given day is far more important, apparently....
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: bradINblue on February 16, 2008, 12:50:13 AM
Gay bashings and the lack of concern for who (and how many) are dying in our cities are similar - they both concern people who are 'devalued' in the public eye.  Thanks for mentioning it.  Clearly what Britney Spears does on any given day is far more important, apparently....
Michael, thanks. I will add that it isn't that individuals are less concerned. It's that the things that matter don't sell add space like Spears, Hilton, et.all. All we get is the junk which, at the end of the day, is de-humanizing.
As an American citizen, it's sad I need to tune to BBC to get my news sans the junk.

Brad
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 16, 2008, 11:59:18 AM
Michael, thanks. I will add that it isn't that individuals are less concerned. It's that the things that matter don't sell add space like Spears, Hilton, et.all. All we get is the junk which, at the end of the day, is de-humanizing.
As an American citizen, it's sad I need to tune to BBC to get my news sans the junk.

Brad

You're right on target here Brad - I didn't mean that individuals don't care, but that it doesn't sell magazines, ads, etc.  Good people still care.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BrokenOkie on February 16, 2008, 12:21:39 PM
On Tuesday night, January 29, 2008, an anti-gay mob invaded a private home in Greenvale, Manchester (Jamaica). The mob attacked three gay men inside, beating them and hacking them with machetes. Two of the men have been hospitalized with serious injuries; one had his ear cut off. One man remains unaccounted for and is feared dead.

This is truly horrible - thanks for letting us know.

From what I've read so far, Jamaica is not a safe place for GLBT people.  I had no idea it's such a hostile environment.  The 3 guys attacked were working to [hopefully] establish an MCC there.  Our other churches are collecting funds to pay their medical expenses.  Still no news about the missing victim. 
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 16, 2008, 12:27:06 PM
From what I've read so far, Jamaica is not a safe place for GLBT people.  I had no idea it's such a hostile environment.  The 3 guys attacked were working to [hopefully] establish an MCC there.  Our other churches are collecting funds to pay their medical expenses.  Still no news about the missing victim. 

This is true about many places in the Caribbean - the Bahamas, the Cayman Islands and even the Virgin Islands.  I had a friend who lived there who said that there were people who glared at him whenever he was in town.  This is in part due to the extremely fervent born again Christianity that is in many of these places (and Rastafarianism is not particularly 'gay-friendly' either).  So someone who was involved with setting up a gay church would be particularly targeted, I would imagine.

I can look up more information on this later - I'm at work now.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on February 16, 2008, 12:36:56 PM
What's been happening in Jamaica (and other Islands) is a combination of Fundamentalist furor and violent homophobia fueled by hip-hop.

From what I remember of Rastafarians, they don't care one way or the other about homosexuals. And there are lot fewer real Rastafarians in the Caribbean than people seem to think.

Milo
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 16, 2008, 01:50:54 PM
What's been happening in Jamaica (and other Islands) is a combination of Fundamentalist furor and violent homophobia fueled by hip-hop.

From what I remember of Rastafarians, they don't care one way or the other about homosexuals. And there are lot fewer real Rastafarians in the Caribbean than people seem to think.

Milo

There is actually a very good movie on Isaac Julien - 'The Darker Side of Black' - which deals with homophobia in both rap and reggae culture:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106668/

No video of it though.

My exposure to homophobic notions in reggae music was through a variety of songs 'Sodom & Gomorrah' by the Twinkle Brothers and 'Two Lesbians Hitch' by Ringo (1981).  So it may not be so much a rastafarian notion as much as a notion among reggae musicians.  I'm a big fan of reggae music, so this was always something of a disappointment for me - although it's true that this notion is only apparent in some musicians.

Here is an article from Time about homophobia in Jamaica:

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1182991,00.html

And here's the sidebar about homophobia in reggae music:

http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1650585,00.html?iid=sphere-inline-sidebar

Here's a blog about the a Lifebeat concert a few years ago that fell afoul of this whole controversy:

http://blabbeando.blogspot.com/2006/07/photos-press-conference-outside.html

And here is a site which deals specifically with homophobia in Dancehall:

http://www.soulrebels.org/dancehall/b_intro.htm

And an article from the Gully magazine:

http://www.thegully.com/essays/gaymundo/050310_LGBT_jamaica_homoph.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on February 18, 2008, 02:22:39 PM
i have quoted this news release in its entirety as it has tended to be buried inside other articles,and deserves to be read intact.

Quote
Remarks of Lorri L. Jean, CEO, L.A. Gay & Lesbian Center

February 15, 2008 Press Conference re: the Murder of Lawrence King

We are here today because of the tragic murder of 15 year old Lawrence King in Oxnard. A boy
who was just coming to terms with his sexuality and identity and was being honest about it.
We’re also here because of his killer, Brandon McInerney, the 14 year old boy who shot
Lawrence dead because he was gay. But mostly we are here because of what this horrible
incident represents.

First, let me say that our hearts go out to Lawrence and his friends and loved ones. And I say the
same to Brandon and his friends and loved ones. This event is a terrible tragedy, but it’s even
more so because Lawrence and Brandon were still children. Their lives had barely begun. One
was violently cut short and the other’s hope for a normal, decent life is over. Two young people,
full of promise with their whole lives ahead of them…all hope gone just like that, with the pull
of a trigger.

Lawrence suffered the ultimate act of violence. He is dead and Brandon is alive. In that very
basic way their situations cannot be compared. But there is a bigger picture here. Both of these
children were victims. Victims of a society that continues to teach that it is permissible to
exclude, revile and even hate gay people and anyone who does not conform to traditional gender
stereotypes.

Brandon pulled the trigger, but bigotry and hatred loaded the gun.


No one is born hating gay and transgender people or believing that we should be denied equal
rights. Such hatred and bigotry must be learned. It is learned in families that don’t accept their
own children if they’re different than the norm. It is learned in right wing churches where
ministers preach abomination or in schools where teachers and administrators don’t protect
LGBT kids from bullying and harassment. It is learned from political leaders who support
blatant discrimination again us or whose leadership fails them when it’s time to speak out and
take action on behalf of our equality and our humanity.

All of these behaviors suggest that gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people are fair game
for bigotry and hatred. They encourage impressionable young people to fear and hate not only
themselves, but others. And too often this hatred takes the form of violence and innocent young
people end up dead. Nothing is “pro-family” about that.

We’re standing here in the L.A. Gay & Lesbian Center’s Jeff Griffith Youth Center. Every week
100’s of homeless kids come here for help they couldn’t find anywhere else. They come from all
over the country. Gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender kids who have been failed by the adults
in their lives.
Failed by parents, who kicked them out only because of who they love or their
gender identity. Failed by teachers and school administrators who did not protect them from
bullying and harassment. Failed by right-wing preachers who reviled them. Failed by political
leaders who didn’t stand up for them or, worse, who actually urged discrimination against them.

And, where are all of the so-called family values leaders today?

Where are the religious political extremists who claim to care about kids but who are actually
trying to repeal laws in California that protect young people from this kind of violence?
Where are the political leaders who preach anti-gay discrimination?
They’re nowhere. Instead of condemning anti-gay and anti-transgender hate crimes and
violence, they say nothing. They are silent and it’s despicable.

To all of these people I say—Lawrence King’s blood and Brandon’s ruined life are on your
heads. Your bigotry loaded the gun. Your example made Brandon think it was OK to pull the
trigger. And you have a responsibility to do something to make sure this never happens again.

As do all of us!

Today we call upon extremist clergy who preach anti-gay hatred and abomination to stop.
We call upon parishioners whose church leaders are trying to repeal laws that would protect the
Lawrence Kings of tomorrow to demand that such hateful activity stop.

We are calling upon school districts and administrators to put policies in place that require swift
action and protection when students like Lawrence King are threatened and bullied. Stop these
behaviors before they lead to violence and death.

We are calling upon political leaders to speak out against discrimination and exclusion, against
bigotry and hatred and to make it clear that ALL Americans, regardless of sexual orientation or
gender identity, are entitled to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, including young people.
We are calling upon decent and fair-minded people everywhere to realize that anti-LGBT bigotry
has got to stop.

more info about the center here:

http://www.lagaycenter.org/site/PageServer
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on February 18, 2008, 02:29:13 PM
cold comfort...

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-oxnard17feb17,0,580570.story

Quote
The Goths in their black T-shirts were there. So were the punks with fluorescent hair and multiple piercings.

There were even a few adolescent boys carrying skateboards among the nearly 1,000 Oxnard youth and other supporters who turned out Saturday for a hastily organized peace march to pay tribute to Lawrence King, 15, the Oxnard student shot to death in a classroom last week.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on February 18, 2008, 08:19:03 PM
i
Quote

We are calling upon school districts and administrators to put policies in place that require swift
action and protection when students like Lawrence King are threatened and bullied. Stop these
behaviors before they lead to violence and death.

Something just occurred to me. I'm wondering if the school district in question has any standing policies on bullying, or processes for dealing with it. I'm also wondering whether or not those policies and processes were followed in this case. It would also be interesting to find out if/how incidents of bullying of non-gay students were handled at this school.

Milo
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on February 19, 2008, 04:34:56 AM
in the advocate: Homophobosphere "An environment created by antigay postings on Internet blogs that spreads hate, produces fear, and is still protected by free speech." ...chris crocker says it better than i can...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd1Oe1LELcc


here are some of the anti-gay comments chris is talking about:

xier0n (54 minutes ago)
KILL THE QUEERS!

goCrockergo (59 minutes ago)
I find this video highly offensive to us gay bashers. My father was a gay basher and his father before him. My great grandfather immigrated to this country from Gaybasherztan in 1898 to make a better life for himself and his family and stared a small gay bashing business with the 5 dollars in his pocket. My family now owns a large gay bashing farm in San Louis Obispo and today its a thriving enterprise. We bash about 2 million gays a year and next year looks even more promising!

GhostDog65 (10 hours ago)
HAHAHA This is the best responce I have seen to date. If Chris blows his brains out there would not be much to clean up. Fags eat a bullet for love, hahaha.

lishowronsakura (1 day ago)
Chris Crocker is a fucking asshole gay motherfucker. I'd curb stomp him any day.

Harvick2921 (1 day ago)
You are the man. You're totally right on Chris Crocker. He is a fucking fag and he should kill himself.

youlivewhatyoulearn (1 day ago)
yeah man
right on dude
you are fucking right
chris croker is a fucking faggot
he deserve to fucking die
i am totally on your side man lets bring him down
take care bro peace out


...peace out? ::)  :P
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on February 19, 2008, 06:56:59 AM
ugh. i just read today's TDS with the article about the killing of 15 year old larry king in oxnard, CA...... by a 14 year old!

wtf. whoever owns the gun should also be held responsible, or SOMETHING. i mean... did the killer borrow it, steal it, or buy it himself?

it reminds me of the hateful stuff on youtube, hearing/seeing people say things about how they're gonna hunt down and kill "sick faggots"...  ugh.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dback on February 19, 2008, 09:52:15 AM
I think Larry's death got overshadowed by the mass shooting in Dekalb, Ill. last week.  It's unfortunate, but the media was going to follow another mass-carnage story over a single death, no matter how terrible and homophobic it might have been.

It will be interesting to see if this story has "legs" and continues to build--if I remember correctly, it took about 5 days for Matthew Shepard's story to move from a tragic human interest story to a full-fledged media storm about hate crimes and how gay people are targeted in rural areas. 
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gres on February 19, 2008, 02:10:53 PM
I hope so dback cus a hate crime simply cannot go unnoticed. There are many questions that need to get answered, like  about his family, about that boy's hate feelings and who is responsible for stirring them up, where did he find the gun and many, many more.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on February 19, 2008, 05:58:58 PM
^^^ he probably spent a lot of time on youtube watching/reading all the anti-gay stuff!  ::)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on February 19, 2008, 07:20:53 PM
^^^ he probably spent a lot of time on youtube watching/reading all the anti-gay stuff!  ::)

- Or maybe he has some sort of psychotic illness

- Or maybe he didn't take his Ritalin that day.

- Or maybe he just "snapped."

- Or maybe his girlfriend left him for a guy with a bigger dick, wallet, or both.

I get so sick of hearing excuses like "children aren't born to hate." That might or might not be true, but I'll tell you what: EVERY mammal is born being needy and selfish. That's why after they come out of the womb, the first thing they look for is the teat. I do believe that some people are already evil before they leave the maternity ward.

I really don't care what the fuck was wrong with the asshole who pulled the trigger. Stick a needle in his arm. Let Larry King's parents sue whomever has the deepest pockets. And let's spend our time learning how to sweep up the broken glass rather than stepping around it.

Milo
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: rnmina on February 21, 2008, 06:47:23 AM
My God, who else is going to be murdered before this country pays attention.  We need a vocal Al Sharpton  type person to call  Press, TV and news conferences... squeaky wheel and all that...because this is the first time  I've  read about this crime. The news is not going to do jack about  publicizing this until someone in the community  raises hell big time.

Personally I don't like the needle in the arm approach...if this happened to my son... the needle in the arm wouldn't help me...it wouldn't   bring him back.
s
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on February 21, 2008, 11:09:09 AM
Personally I don't like the needle in the arm approach...if this happened to my son... the needle in the arm wouldn't help me...it wouldn't   bring him back.
s

I don't want to derail this thread with an argument about the pros and cons of capital punishment. I appreciate your thoughts. And you're right, killing the bastard won't bring Lawrence King back to life. While you might not feel any sense of justice from the demon's execution, there are plenty of people who would. The crime here was not just committed against the King family, it is a crime against the state as well.

Milo
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Marz on February 21, 2008, 03:11:51 PM
as long as people are happy it shouldn't matter who you fall in love with, if you fall in love you fall in love and theres nothing you can about it weather it be with a man or a woman it doesn't matter
if any of the members of my family or friends were gay i would suport them no matter what
i think people that can't accept peoples sexuality are narrow minded they are still people and still have feelings
maybe im just to nice!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: canmark on February 24, 2008, 03:14:51 PM
ESPN sportswriter LZ Granderson writes about being gay bashed during the recent NBA All Star weekend in New Orleans. His online column has generated 319 comments, some supportive, some not.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=granderson/080218

Quote
When the eight to 10 guys surrounded me, I knew I was going to get hurt.

When the first one pushed me in the back, I remember thinking I was going to die.

After a second shove, I had no thoughts at all -- only fear.

This is how I spent a portion of my Saturday night during NBA All-Star Weekend -- being gay bashed because the size large T-shirt I was wearing wasn't large enough for someone else's comfort.

As I walked by the group of men -- on my way to the Playboy party, no less -- one of them called me a faggot. Then another joined in. They followed me for a while, continuing to hurl names at me. I tried to ignore it but eventually the "Detroit" came out of me and I turned around and said some things I probably shouldn't have. Next thing I know I'm surrounded and wondering if I'm going to see the dawn and if not for a pair of New Orleans policemen who saw trouble brewing and yelled at the group to break it up, I might not have.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: graylockV on February 24, 2008, 03:34:13 PM
I was just checking the news headlines over at CNN.com and they have this video up regarding a memorial to Lawrence King:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/02/24/gonzales.oxnard.shooting.cnn
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: KZ on February 25, 2008, 05:39:04 PM
^^^ he probably spent a lot of time on youtube watching/reading all the anti-gay stuff!  ::)

- Or maybe he has some sort of psychotic illness

- Or maybe he didn't take his Ritalin that day.

- Or maybe he just "snapped."

- Or maybe his girlfriend left him for a guy with a bigger dick, wallet, or both.

I get so sick of hearing excuses like "children aren't born to hate." That might or might not be true, but I'll tell you what: EVERY mammal is born being needy and selfish. That's why after they come out of the womb, the first thing they look for is the teat. I do believe that some people are already evil before they leave the maternity ward.

I really don't care what the fuck was wrong with the asshole who pulled the trigger. Stick a needle in his arm. Let Larry King's parents sue whomever has the deepest pockets. And let's spend our time learning how to sweep up the broken glass rather than stepping around it.

Milo

Bravo!  I, too, am sick to death of excuses not only being manufactured for rotten kids but handed to them on a silver platter.  Schools, social service agencies, the judicial system, the "mental health" establishment...all are enablers and all are to blame.  Believe me, I've seen the mollycoddling first-hand, and I'm bloody well fed up with it.       
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Carissa on February 26, 2008, 10:00:23 PM
Quote
Thttp://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-oxnard17feb17,0,580570.story

he Goths in their black T-shirts were there. So were the punks with fluorescent hair and multiple piercings.

There were even a few adolescent boys carrying skateboards among the nearly 1,000 Oxnard youth and other supporters who turned out Saturday for a hastily organized peace march to pay tribute to Lawrence King, 15, the Oxnard student shot to death in a classroom last week.
[/quote]

Also from the article above...
Quote
Connor Sipes, 13, showed up with two of his buddies. They attend a different middle school, Connor said, but learned about the march through a posting on MySpace.

Connor wore a headband and a gold peace sign around his neck as the three boys walked the two miles from the school to the city park. He participated because what happened to King "wasn't right," he said. "It will be a better future if we are more tolerant."

It's amazing that this 13 year old can get it and many adults can't.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on February 27, 2008, 04:59:22 PM
Florida: In Broward County, there have been two more violent incidents — a brutal hate-based assault on a gay couple in a popular tourist area in downtown Ft. Lauderdale and the murder of 17-year-old Simmie Williams Jr., which police are investigating as a possible hate crime based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Equality Florida, Fight OUT Loud and several other groups are organizing a vigil tomorrow to protest these latest outrages. Task Force Executive Director Matt Foreman will speak at the rally

http://ga4.org/Equalityflorida/notice-description.tcl?newsletter_id=20282665&r= (http://ga4.org/Equalityflorida/notice-description.tcl?newsletter_id=20282665&r=)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: chuckyv on February 28, 2008, 11:24:07 AM
In 1999 or 2000,a nail bomb blew up in the Admiral Duncan pub,in London.Four people died.  Later,during his trial,the killer said he had deliberately aimed to kill gays. Even though he had bombed the gay centre of London, not one of his victims was gay.As more straights mix and enter 'gay' areas,surely it will become more difficult to hit the people you are aiming for.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: brian on February 29, 2008, 05:17:53 PM
Regarding the bashings that have occurred in Sydney in recent months.
An article from today's city newspaper
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/politics-and-partying-on-sydneys-gayest-day/2008/02/29/1204226997048.html
MARDI GRAS has put violence against gays and lesbians at the forefront of its political agenda, asking the two men who were bashed while walking hand-in-hand in Darlinghurst three months ago to lead tonight's 30th anniversary parade.
"For me it is bittersweet," says Craig Gee, who has endured numerous operations to repair the horrific injuries he sustained when he was assaulted and has since suffered the added trauma of being shunned by his family.

"While it will be incredibly difficult for us to return to Oxford Street, it is an important part of our recovery and we want to show the community how incredibly grateful [we] are for their support."

His partner, Shane Brennen, who was also injured in the December attack, said his parents, aunt and sister will be in the crowd to support them.

And

In a sign of just how rapid the detente between the local gay community and police has been, Surry Hills's recently appointed commander, Superintendent Donna Adney, will march in the parade with 30 of the police's Gay and Lesbian Liaison Officers and the NSW police band.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on March 07, 2008, 02:39:39 PM
Here is a link to a 2006 report on Gay Bashing in Ireland:

http://www.gayhealthnetwork.ie/folder/web/pdf/hatecrimereport.pdf
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: graylockV on March 08, 2008, 07:57:10 PM
Here's an article that provides more backgroung behind the murder of Lawrence King.  So sad; so sad.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-gay-teen-death-hatecrime-oxnard-story,1,7409423.story
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: MarieMJS on March 09, 2008, 11:15:47 AM
Sad is not even the word, I still can't understand what kind of hatred has pushed Brandon McInerney to do that, this is SO not right (even if it does sound cliché to say that, I know)...

I thought Ellen de Generes reaction on TV was fabulous, in a few words she explaned the struggle, the pain, and the violence, and also the right to be just like everyone, she was brilliant and touching.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Flyboy on March 11, 2008, 09:40:24 AM
Well, it happened, the Kansas Supreme Court struck down the Funeral Picketing law, so now the Legislature has to try again to pass 'something' to keep that crazy Phelps crowd away from funeral services..........
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on March 16, 2008, 06:22:00 PM

(http://taxine.com/fullerspicer/hate_woman.jpg)

SHE'S NOT GAY BASHING
but she got a standing ovation


(http://davecullen.com/brokeback/daily/format/placeholder.gif)(http://davecullen.com/brokeback/daily/format/placeholder.gif)(http://davecullen.com/brokeback/daily/format/placeholder.gif)Full transcript of a speech by Sally Kern on the "gay agenda" with a backhanded slap at Islam:

The homosexual agenda [Loud snap] is destroying this nation. OK? It's just a fact. [Volume increases] Not everybody's lifestyle is equal, just like not all religions are equal.

You know, the very fact that I'm talking to you like this here today, puts me in jeopardy. OK? Uh and I'm not anti, I'm not gay-bashing, but according to God's word that is not the right kind of lifestyle, it has deadly consequences for those people involved in it, they have more suicides, uh and they're more discouraged, there's more illness, their uh lifespans are shorter, you know?

It's, it's, it's not a lifestyle that is good for this nation.

'Matter of fact, studies show, that no society that has totally embraced homosexuality has lasted more than, you know, a few decades.

So it's the death knell of this country.

I honestly think it's the biggest threat even, that our nation has, even more so than terrorism or Islam, which I think is a big threat. OK?

Because what's happening now, they're going after er uh in schools - two year-olds!

You know why they're trying to get early childhood education? They want to get our young children into the government schools so they can indoctrinate them! I taught school for close to twenty years and we're not teaching facts and knowledge anymore folks, we're teaching indoctrination. OK?

And they're going after our young children, as young as two years of age, to try to teach them that the homosexual lifestyle is the acceptable lifestyle.

You know, gays are infiltrating city councils.

Do you know? Eureka Springs [Arkansas], anybody been there, for the [Great] Passion Play? [A "Creation Truth" production] OK, have you heard that the city council of Eureka Springs is now controlled by gays? OK?

There are some others. Uh, Pittsburgh, Pa.; Tacoma, Md.; Kensington, Md.; in Vermont, Oregon, West Palm Beach, Fla. and a lot of other places in Florida.

What's happening? And they are winning elections. One of the things I deal with in our legislature, I tried to introduce a bill last year, that would notify parents, uh schools had to let parents know what clubs their students were involved in.

And the reason I did that bill, primarily, was this, we had the Gay-Straight Alliance coming into our schools.

Kids are getting involved in these groups, their lives are being ruined, their parents don't know about it. So I introduced a bill that said you have to notify all clubs, and things. And one of my colleagues said, "Well, you know we don't have a gay problem in my community, so that's why I voted against that bill."

Well you know what? To me that is so dumb. If you've got cancer or something in your little toe, do you say, Well you know I’m just gonna forget about it, 'cause the rest of you's fine?

It spreads! OK?

And this, this stuff is deadly, and it's spreading and it will destroy uh our young people, it will destroy this nation.
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from bbsnews.net
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Lola on March 16, 2008, 06:31:37 PM
I just googled her, check it out:


http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080315/NEWS07/80315053/1009/News07
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on March 17, 2008, 05:25:25 AM
thanks lola for the link...

Kern said she has no regrets for her statements and denies she was gay-bashing. Her Christian faith teachers her to be loving to individuals, but not their lifestyle, she said.

or their religion, unless it's her own.   >:(
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: graylockV on March 17, 2008, 12:57:44 PM
thanks lola for the link...

Kern said she has no regrets for her statements and denies she was gay-bashing. Her Christian faith teachers her to be loving to individuals, but not their lifestyle, she said.

or their religion, unless it's her own.   >:(

In other words, she loves your endangered soul.  It's your physical being that she abhors.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on March 17, 2008, 03:04:34 PM
It's your physical being that she abhors.

Not at all. Its a set of behaviors that she finds abhorent.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on March 17, 2008, 03:27:10 PM
Kern

After viewing the video and reading the transcript, I am convinced that Kern was making her anti-gay stance clear to a group of people of like minds. Whether her comments rise to the level of gay-bashing is up for debate, but we can certainly all agree that her comments come from bigotry and ignorance.

There has to be some way that these conservatives can learn to express their problems with homosexuality without causing outrage. I like Ellen Degeneres' idea of having an open dialogue with Kern. I always think that its better to put things on the table and discuss them rather than simply react.

How would any of you handle it if, for example, these opinions were being offered by a co-worker to a group of other colleagues at the lunch table in the employee cafeteria?

Milo
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 18, 2008, 09:46:15 AM
Kern

After viewing the video and reading the transcript, I am convinced that Kern was making her anti-gay stance clear to a group of people of like minds. Whether her comments rise to the level of gay-bashing is up for debate, but we can certainly all agree that her comments come from bigotry and ignorance.

There has to be some way that these conservatives can learn to express their problems with homosexuality without causing outrage. I like Ellen Degeneres' idea of having an open dialogue with Kern. I always think that its better to put things on the table and discuss them rather than simply react.

How would any of you handle it if, for example, these opinions were being offered by a co-worker to a group of other colleagues at the lunch table in the employee cafeteria?

Milo

Good question. I would like to think that the first thing I would try to do would be to calmly ask for evidence to back up the claim, hoping to get the speaker to demonstrate to any listeners that he or she really has no evidence to back up the claims.

The trouble is, if this person is "preaching to the choir," "the choir" probably isn't going to care that there is no evidence.  :-\
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 18, 2008, 09:55:21 AM
I like Ellen Degeneres' idea of having an open dialogue with Kern.

Well, I do, too, but the sad problem that I have with that idea is that I don't believe you really can have dialogue with someone like this Kern woman.

Why? Because I believe real dialogue requires a certain amount of open-mindedness and good will, a willingness to be convinced by calm and rational talk, on the part of both or all participants, and I don't believe someone like Kern has any of the above when it comes to gay people. If she did, she could never have made the comments that she made in the first place.

No, unfortunately, I do not believe that you can dialogue with the Sally Kerns of this world. You can only debate them, and hope the audience sees them for what they are.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 22, 2008, 07:34:29 PM
Well, I do, too, but the sad problem that I have with that idea is that I don't believe you really can have dialogue with someone like this Kern woman.

Why? Because I believe real dialogue requires a certain amount of open-mindedness and good will, a willingness to be convinced by calm and rational talk, on the part of both or all participants, and I don't believe someone like Kern has any of the above when it comes to gay people. If she did, she could never have made the comments that she made in the first place.

No, unfortunately, I do not believe that you can dialogue with the Sally Kerns of this world. You can only debate them, and hope the audience sees them for what they are.



I think you hit the nail on the head, Jeff.  To have true dialog, the participants have to be opened minded enough to able to listen to the other side of the argument, and accept that their own side may be viewed as wrong.  Someone like Sally Kern is not going to be that open minded, as they tend to accept their views as 100% correct, and other views as "background noise".
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: KZ on March 23, 2008, 12:35:47 AM
I agree.  People of Kern's ilk simply parrot the party line (e.g., there's an insidious gay agenda afoot that's undermining family values; they, the biblically reverential, love the sinners but hate the sin, blah-blah-blah) and aren't willing or able to engage in any kind of rational discourse.  Challenge their notions, and they'll immediately fall back on the "inerrancy of Scripture" argument and start hurling chapters and verses at your ass!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 24, 2008, 07:01:19 AM
I agree.  People of Kern's ilk simply parrot the party line (e.g., there's an insidious gay agenda afoot that's undermining family values; they, the biblically reverential, love the sinners but hate the sin, blah-blah-blah) and aren't willing or able to engage in any kind of rational discourse.  Challenge their notions, and they'll immediately fall back on the "inerrancy of Scripture" argument and start hurling chapters and verses at your ass!

And I believe that in her heart of hearts, Kern doesn't really respect gay people as fellow human beings. I think you also have to have respect in order to have dialogue.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Yankee Hick on March 26, 2008, 07:39:07 PM
got into a little trouble around here.  got my ass kicked pretty bad at a bar, because i defended 2 gays there.  bruised ribs are about the worst of it.  it's sad, ya know?  everytime i got kicked in the ribs, i heard "want more, faggot lover?"  WTF is wrong with people?!  it's my first encounter with a hate-crime.  i'm going back to that bar this friday.  i'm not going to be afraid or chased away.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: fritzkep on March 26, 2008, 07:45:59 PM
Good for you, Jeff, not to let them keep you away!

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BrokenOkie on March 26, 2008, 11:09:44 PM
Good grief, Jeff.  I'm so sorry to hear about this.  Take extra good care of yourself, please.



Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 27, 2008, 06:48:53 AM
got into a little trouble around here.  got my ass kicked pretty bad at a bar, because i defended 2 gays there.  bruised ribs are about the worst of it.  it's sad, ya know?  everytime i got kicked in the ribs, i heard "want more, faggot lover?"  WTF is wrong with people?!  it's my first encounter with a hate-crime.  i'm going back to that bar this friday.  i'm not going to be afraid or chased away.

Good man! God bless you and keep you!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on March 28, 2008, 10:51:38 PM
got into a little trouble around here.  got my ass kicked pretty bad at a bar, because i defended 2 gays there.  bruised ribs are about the worst of it.  it's sad, ya know?  everytime i got kicked in the ribs, i heard "want more, faggot lover?"  WTF is wrong with people?!  it's my first encounter with a hate-crime.  i'm going back to that bar this friday.  i'm not going to be afraid or chased away.

HOLY SHIT!!! I'm sorry to hear that.

Did the 2 guys you were defending jump in to help?
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Marz on March 29, 2008, 04:59:24 PM
sorry to hear that! hope your ok there are same truly nasty mean people in the world
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Hasse on April 21, 2008, 03:34:04 AM
Thank God gay bashing is a very rare thing in Sweden, unfortuantely that is not the case in other places.
Sorry if this video has been posted before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw9zJq0QGl0
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on April 26, 2008, 07:40:48 PM
Students protest anti-gay bullying in middle school

PINELLAS PARK (Bay News 9) -- About a dozen students gathered outside of Pinellas Park Middle School Friday to protest the bullying and harassment of gay students.

The students said they were protesting to bring awareness to a 15-year-old student they said was beaten up this week because he was gay. They held signs that read "Stop Discrimination" and "Hate is easy - love takes courage."

The protest took place during the National Day of Silence, which, according to the organization's Web site, "brings attention to anti-LGBT name-calling, bullying and harassment in schools."

The Pinellas County Sheriff's Office confirms that a 15-year-old student was beat up Monday by four other students who used sexual slurs against him, and that they are calling it a hate crime.

Student Ashley Stroud said the four students told the victim to "go back to Brokeback Mountain" as they pushed him

"[The victim] turned around and asked them to stop," she said. "The kid pushed him again, and then they just started fighting and like, three or four more kids jumped in."

Student Gina Garcia said she talked to the victim after the fight.

"He said that he was fighting for his life and now I guess he's done with it," she said. "He said he doesn't want to live anymore and that's pretty messed up. It makes you want to cry. Because for him, he's only in middle school. It's not even right what they did."


http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2008/4/25/342993.html# (http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2008/4/25/342993.html#)
 
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on April 26, 2008, 09:59:42 PM
I suppose I should put this in the 'media' section - but it feels more like it should be here:

Fort Wayne AIDS Memorial Damaged By Vandals
by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff
Posted: April 25, 2008 - 3:00 pm ET

(Fort Wayne, Indiana) Sections of a memorial to people in the Fort Wayne area who have died as a result of HIV/AIDS have been toppled and badly damaged.

A stone pedestal that supported a statue of an angel was pushed over, and the statue smashed.

The vandalism was discovered by Otis Vincent who created the memorial after his son died of AIDS in 1995.  He has spent the past four years working on the memorial in Lindenwood Cemetery.

"I just can’t understand why someone would want to do this," Vincent told the Journal Gazette newspaper.

"Some people do not like the gay community, … but they don’t have to destroy something that I have put a lot of work into."

story continues here:

http://365gay.com/Newscon08/04/042508van.htm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on April 26, 2008, 10:23:03 PM
Mount Si's gay-rights Day of Silence is far from quiet
By Lynn Thompson

Seattle Times Eastside bureau





A Day of Silence inside Mount Si High School meant to show support for gay and lesbian students erupted in noisy protests outside.

More than one-third of students didn't show up for classes Friday. Principal Randy Taylor said 495 out of 1,410 students weren't at school, including 85 athletes whose parents had asked that they be excused for their personal beliefs.

About 100 people joined the Rev. Ken Hutcherson, a prominent anti-gay-rights activist, in prayer and song that questioned the dedication of a school day to what they said was a controversial political cause.

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj282/SanFranciscoJohn/2004374426.jpg)

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/eastsidenews/2004374870_dayofsilence26e.html?syndication=rss (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/eastsidenews/2004374870_dayofsilence26e.html?syndication=rss)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on April 26, 2008, 10:30:29 PM
Play To Shed Light On Hate Crimes
By: Katie Hannafin
Posted: 4/25/08


After two successful performances of "The Laramie Project" earlier this month, the cast of the play will be putting on an encore production in response to student requests this Sunday at 1 p.m. in the Student Union Theater.

The two-hour play is sponsored by the Rainbow Center and there is no cost for attendance, although a suggested donation between $2 and $5 is encouraged. Proceeds will go to covering the cost of the production and any remaining funds will go towards "True Colors," a Connecticut non-profit organization which directly reaches out to lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) youth.

http://media.www.dailycampus.com/media/storage/paper340/news/2008/04/25/Focus/Play-To.Shed.Light.On.Hate.Crimes-3350308.shtml (http://media.www.dailycampus.com/media/storage/paper340/news/2008/04/25/Focus/Play-To.Shed.Light.On.Hate.Crimes-3350308.shtml)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tonydude on May 07, 2008, 05:40:26 PM
  Am not sure where to post this news story, but I guess it goes here.  I had posted in the "Don't Ask/Don't Tell" thread that the Ariel Weinmann spy case, here in Norfolk was not so much a spy case as a cover-up of an inept whistleblower (Weinmann) who had downloaded evidence of domestic spying and turned the "confidential files" as the Navy called them, over to Russia. Part of those files documented NCIS abuse of civilians in their enforcement of earlier rules of no gays in the military.  Weinmann got a sweetheart deal in exchange for keeping his mouth shut.
  At any rate, May 6, up to 20 FBI agents raided the government offices of Special Counsel Scott J. Bloch, a Bush appointee whose job it was to protect whistleblowers, but who, allegedly pursued the opposite policy.  There was some mention he may have lied to the House over-sight committees on intelliegence, which would be the most serious charge, if true, and this could possibly be the start of the unravelling of the Weinmann case, but am not sure if that information is correct.
  So am posting here, instead, because one of the earliest complaints on him was his suppression, rather than support, of whistleblowers claiming discrimination against gays.  So, the gay-bashing thread seems the rightful place to post.  At the very least, a homophobe is being brought to justice, and that's got to be good news.
  There is a strangeness to the story, with the FBI raiding a government office, and with the target being someone who allegedly put cover-up before rule of law.  It's hopeless to hope that this is the first crack in the wall of illegality.  That he pursued a homophobic agenda, protecting gay-bashing in employment, is a minor element of the story, but, hey, any progress is progress.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 16, 2008, 10:10:34 PM
Sacramento men arrested in what police say was 'gay-bashing'
By DON THOMPSON, Associated Press Writer
Friday, May 16, 2008

Three Sacramento men have been arrested after a beating that law enforcement officials describe as a hate crime against homosexuals, police said Friday.

The Thursday evening incident at a Sacramento gas station came just hours after the California Supreme Court issued a ruling overturning a state ban on same-sex marriages.

A 23-year-old Sacramento man was sitting with another man in a car near the station's restroom when the three suspects asked if he was a homosexual, Sacramento Police Officer Michelle Lazark said.

The man said he was. When he got out of the car, the three men beat and kicked him, Lazark said. He did not require medical treatment.

story continues here:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/05/16/state/n143918D86.DTL&hw=gay+bashing&sn=001&sc=1000

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 30, 2008, 11:00:48 PM
New report mentioned in the BAR:

Hate crimes against LGBTs increase in 2007
by Heather Tirado Gilligan

Hate crimes against LGBTs in San Francisco increased by 7 percent last year, according to an analysis conducted by national anti-violence groups.

Nationwide, increases in violence were not all attributable to increased reporting. Michigan saw a stunning 207 percent increase in the number of hate crimes against LGBTs committed in 2007. NCAVP attributes this dramatic upsurge in hate crimes to a three-year-long campaign by the attorney general's office to end domestic partner benefits.

"In Michigan and elsewhere in the U.S., these highly visible attacks on LGBT communities reinforce the idea that it is acceptable to target LGBT persons with violence," the report states. "There is frequently a corresponding surge in anti-LGBT incidents of violence and crime as these campaigns play out in communities and in the national and local media."

story continues:

http://ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=3024
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 31, 2008, 04:42:05 PM
Facing hate crime in Turkey

A report by Human Rights Watch says gay and transgender people in Turkey are subject to "endemic abuses", and calls on the government to act to protect them. The BBC's Sarah Rainsford met some of the victims.

"This is my first photograph as a transsexual," a woman tells me, in her flat in back-street Istanbul.

She points to a snapshot of herself with long-flowing hair and thick make-up. On the opposite page of the album, a man with a moustache reminds her how she used to be.

Smoking heavily, the woman - who asks me not to use her name - tells me she grew up as a man in the conservative east of Turkey. She moved to Istanbul in her 30s, where she finally felt able to live as a woman.

"It's all I wanted," she says. "I used to dance as a woman and see the image of a man in the mirror and that upset me."

article continues here:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7416369.stm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on June 03, 2008, 07:14:29 PM
Gambian police arrests "gay tourists"

afrol News, 3 June - Two suspected gay Spanish tourists - Pere Joan, 56, and Juan Monpserratrusau, 54 - were arrested and detained by Gambian police in Kotu, 10 km from the capital Banjul.

The Spaniards were accused of attempting to woo local taxi drivers into homosexuality. The drivers agreed to the men's demands, but informed the police who later rounded them up at a tourist resort.

If found guilty, the men who could face up to 14 years in prison. They were reportedly receiving visits from the Spanish consul to The Gambia who assured them of his "full support."

Last month, Gambian President Yahya Jammeh ordered homosexuals to quit within 24 hours before he "cut off their heads." Jammeh also threatened to legislate "stricter laws than Iran" on homosexuality.

article continues here:

http://www.afrol.com/articles/29177
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: fritzkep on June 03, 2008, 07:24:59 PM
The Gambian president sounds like another closet case, doesn't he?

Like Ahmedinejad.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 03, 2008, 07:53:02 PM
Gambian police arrests "gay tourists"

afrol News, 3 June - Two suspected gay Spanish tourists - Pere Joan, 56, and Juan Monpserratrusau, 54 - were arrested and detained by Gambian police in Kotu, 10 km from the capital Banjul.

Thank you for posting this here Jimmy - I posted it over in the 'media' area earlier today and meant to post it here too.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: estefue on June 04, 2008, 05:11:14 PM
Oy. 
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on June 26, 2008, 07:22:24 PM


First Cuban Pride Results in Arrests
Quote
Cuban activists with the aid of Florida’s Unity Coalition organized the nation’s first pride parade on Wednesday.

The group met in Havana's Don Quixote Park at 10 a.m. and planned on marching to the Ministry of Justice to deliver a series of demands, according to Unity.

The participants were quickly interceded by police officers at the park. Several citizens were beaten and arrested.

http://advocate.com/news_detail_ektid56573.asp (http://advocate.com/news_detail_ektid56573.asp)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 28, 2008, 03:35:04 PM
Bulgarian extremists attack gay parade with rocks
Saturday, June 28, 2008

Extremists throwing rocks, bottles and gasoline bombs have attacked the Bulgarian capital's first gay pride parade.

Police say they prevented the extremists from harming the 150 or so people in the procession through Sofia. No serious injuries have been reported.

story continues:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/06/28/international/i133116D10.DTL&tsp=1
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 28, 2008, 03:54:40 PM
Here's a followup on the above story - it appears that it's not only happening in Bulgaria:

Gay pride marches in Europe marred by homophobia
AFP newswire
June 28, 2008

PRAGUE (AFP) - Tens of thousands joined gay pride marches across Europe on Saturday but homophobics spoiled the party in the Czech Republic and Bulgaria where scores were arrested for disrupting events.
 
Czech security forces were forced to intervene after right-wing extremists moved in on a parade in the country's second city Brno, leading to 15 arrests as tear gas was thrown, police said.

Several dozen black-clad extremists tried to break up a planned two-hour march through the city centre by gays and lesbians. The right-wingers threw eggs and fireworks into the midst of the marchers as they gathered in a central city square, local media reported.

story continues:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080628/ts_afp/gayrightseurope_080628210220

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 28, 2008, 04:20:52 PM
damn.  I'm really disappointed that violence broke out at the first pride march there.  Plain and simple, it sucks.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 28, 2008, 04:33:46 PM
Yes, I'm a bit surprised more isn't being made of the gasoline bombs in Bulgaria - if homemade incendiary devices were being used on anyone else I'm sure it would be called 'terrorism' - but then again they never called the bombing of women's clinics in the U.S. or the attacks on gay bars by the like of Eric Robert Rudolph terrorism, so I shouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 28, 2008, 04:39:00 PM
Well, I was going to say they only call it "terrorism" if it's someone from another country commiting the violence, but they called Tim McVeigh a terrorist, didn't they?

the sad thing is the people who particpated in the marches probably expected it, so they weren't shocked.  I can't imagine someone doing something like that in San Fran or NYC.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 28, 2008, 04:50:30 PM
Yes, it wouldn't happen here or in Western Europe Chuck - sadly that distinction still remains.  There have been attacks on pride marches in Serbia, Russia and Lithuania in the past as well.

ETA: Poland as well.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 28, 2008, 05:12:34 PM
Well, I was going to say they only call it "terrorism" if it's someone from another country commiting the violence, but they called Tim McVeigh a terrorist, didn't they?

Yes they did - and even more clearly Eric Robert Rudolph was considered a terrorist for bombing Olympic Park, but was almost never referred to as a terrorist for the clinic bombing and bombing of the lesbian bar that he did.  And the person who shot up the gay bar in Maryland wasn't called a terrorist either.  I'm unsure if the person who perpetrated the nail bomb attack on the bar in London was called a terrorist - perhaps someone from the UK can tell us.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Dal on June 28, 2008, 06:23:50 PM
Well, I was going to say they only call it "terrorism" if it's someone from another country commiting the violence, but they called Tim McVeigh a terrorist, didn't they?
Maybe you're a terrorist only if you attack the innocent.  Gays, lesbians, abortionists, and fetus-murdering mothers are not innocent.  Maybe a lot of people don't see what the big deal is about a few abortion clinics blowing up?

The reported increase in violence against GLTQs is very disheartening.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on June 29, 2008, 12:23:53 PM

Jesus F***ing Christ! Will it never stop?  >:( >:( >:(   :'(

Seems the marches in Berlin and Paris went smoothly, without the slightest problems, at least.

Violent homophobia seems to be worst in Eastern Europe, these past years.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on June 29, 2008, 02:36:52 PM
damn.  I'm really disappointed that violence broke out at the first pride march there.  Plain and simple, it sucks.
chuck... if you talk about this with your older gay friends you will find that none of us is surprised at all.  if you remember the civil rights marches in the south especially.  your freedoms have been paid for in blood, to put it dramatically but correctly.  it would be both kind and just for your generation to remember the price paid by my generation to bring us even this far. 
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 29, 2008, 07:43:23 PM
chuck... if you talk about this with your older gay friends you will find that none of us is surprised at all.  if you remember the civil rights marches in the south especially.  your freedoms have been paid for in blood, to put it dramatically but correctly.  it would be both kind and just for your generation to remember the price paid by my generation to bring us even this far. 

I'm aware of this, Jack.  I never said I was surprised.  I said I was disappointed.  One of the reasons I got my pink triangle tattoo was that when I had what I thought was a bad day, I would look at it and remember those who went before me, who had it worse.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 29, 2008, 08:50:44 PM
chuck... if you talk about this with your older gay friends you will find that none of us is surprised at all.  if you remember the civil rights marches in the south especially.  your freedoms have been paid for in blood, to put it dramatically but correctly.  it would be both kind and just for your generation to remember the price paid by my generation to bring us even this far. 

Actually I believe I have to say that I've paid my own price - in looking over my shoulder, in having rocks and bottles thrown at me and having knives drawn on me and vehicles driven at me - in having to fight my own way up.  It was a struggle that was quite apart from any organization, as there was none around for me during most of the time I experienced this.  I think I've paid my own price and held my own ground - and I think that it is entirely appropriate to honor and discuss the struggles of LGBT people who have been attacked and killed in their own right.

I think we muddy the waters when discussing attacks on LGBT people by conflating them with other struggles - they are all valid in their own context and they have unique events and experiences  associated with them that should be respected individually - and that is, of course, why we have a distinct gay bashing thread here.  It's certainly true enough that without the struggles against racism and sexism that have occurred in the U.S. that it is unlikely that the fight for gay rights would have occurred (or perhaps it might have taken longer), and we would not view attacks on lesbian and gay people in the context of attacks on others due to race and sex.  But it is also true that the hatred of lesbian and gay people has its own reasons and in the association to religion and a desire for a fictional psychological norm it is distinct from other types of hatred. 

This certainly is the case in Bulgaria and the Czech republic - which is what this particular discussion is about.  I suppose you could make the case that there is some sort of association between discrimination against the Roma and Jews in these countries and the hatred of gays - but there is also a distinct hatred which identifies homosexuality as a western curse (or as being a capitalist vice) as well as a sin and a dishonor for families.  These biases certainly should be seen in the context of their own cultures - and not through some lens based in the United States.  The hatred and bias in Eastern Europe should be seen within the context of Eastern Europe.

It would, of course, also be kind and just to remember that many of us here have experienced hatred, bias and stigmatization in our personal lives - outside of any overarching historical context - and I think that it would be kind and respectful to remember that Chuck probably has experienced this as well as anyone else - as have I - and that in this right we have paid our own dues.

All of our experiences are valid and worth respect - and distinct cultures and nations merit discussion within their own historical context.  And the attacks which have occurred on the individuals in Bulgaria and the Czech republic should be considered as being important enough and horrifying enough to merit viewing on their own - and not in the context of anyone else's experience (or at least not in the context of someone from outside of the culture in which they occurred).  These individuals and the violence perpetrated against them deserve being viewed in their own right and they deserve to be respected in that way in my opinion.

And happy gay pride day to all.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on June 29, 2008, 09:45:15 PM
let it be clearly stated i agree with both michael and chuck.  while there are some years that separate michael and i, he was fighting the same battles as i but as a much younger man.  we weathered the same gay holocausts, by and large, and chuck can forgive a man entering his dotage for reminding him of what HE already knows, but to which a great majority of his peers have given little or no thought, while making light of our anachronistic angst. 

i think it is germane that that decade the separates michael and i is one in which i came of age and began my coming to terms with both my sexuality AND my concept of the overarching statements inherent in the constitution of the US, ie that ALL men are endowed with certain inalienable rights.  to me the civil rights movement is a gradual process of realizations and enlightenments.  it took me a while to realize that i too MIGHT deserve the same considerations, having learned from my earliest cognition that what i was was simply anathema hence beyond the scope of this document.  well, i am NOT.

i must, therefore, dwell within my conflation, because it IS my experience.  if that conflation is good enough for coretta scott king, its good enough for me. 
 
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Brokeback_1 on June 30, 2008, 11:41:43 PM
What surprises me most is they had an incident-free march in Istanbul, with a lot of spectators; yet in Prague of all places...trouble!

Bulgaria is a beautiful land, with nice people. I really liked that country>>>who the hell were the trouble-makers?  Bulgarians generally have OTHER things to complain about...

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 01, 2008, 12:04:10 AM
Well, Bulgaria is already part of the EU Jack.  The Turks may be a little more circumspect because they know they are being watched.

When this sort of thing happened in Serbia a year or two ago it was caused by right wing extremists.  And, of course, the religious climate in Eastern Europe doesn't help much - did you hear about what happened after a gay boat cruise in Russia?

http://www.planetout.com/news/article.html?2007/06/26/3
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 01, 2008, 06:52:41 AM
And, of course, the religious climate in Eastern Europe doesn't help much - did you hear about what happened after a gay boat cruise in Russia?

http://www.planetout.com/news/article.html?2007/06/26/3


Well good Lord!  I can't imagine living in a climate like that.  God bless them.  At least they didn't try to be like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and claim they have no gays in Russia.

::)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 01, 2008, 10:13:57 AM
Well good Lord! 

Exactly.   :D :D :D

Kind of puts our own religious nuts in perspective, doesn't it?  They're certainly a pain, blaming things like Hurricane Katrina on gay people, but they don't quite reach that level of religious insanity.

We, of course, had the nutjobs in San Francisco this weekend with huge posters saying that we are going to hell.  I don't know about that - but it was a hellava party!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Brokeback_1 on July 04, 2008, 05:52:50 AM
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,562638,00.html



Article about the sneaky & slow increase of violence, regarding Germany and gays
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 04, 2008, 11:25:48 AM
^^^  Fascinating Jack - particularly the rap and Islamic connections there.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 04, 2008, 08:48:17 PM
Subway Bashing Lands Gay Man in Emergency Room


By: PAUL SCHINDLER
07/03/2008

A gay man returning home on the subway early Saturday evening, June 28, with his partner after a church LGBT pride picnic was harassed and beaten by a heterosexual couple after the gay men boarded at Christopher Street.


http://www.gaycitynews.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19829160&BRD=2729&PAG=461&dept_id=568857&rfi=6
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: estefue on July 05, 2008, 08:16:26 AM
Isn't this something?  And what's wrong with her?? It makes it all so much more sordid
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: fritzkep on July 05, 2008, 09:17:57 AM
^^^  Fascinating Jack - particularly the rap and Islamic connections there.

Talk about "politics" making strange bedfellows!

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on July 07, 2008, 01:55:24 PM
^^^  Fascinating Jack - particularly the rap and Islamic connections there.

Unfortunely the problem lies within the form of rap being put on the stage in this case. We're not talking about the trivial kind of "radio-safe" rap that is basically harmless ear candy. This is hardcore gangsta rap. Gangsta brings with it the attitudes of the criminal culture from which its lyrics spring. Homophobia, degradation of women, extreme violence, etc. are all features of the segment of the criminal culture we’re talking about. More insidious than any of that is the hardcore expression of those ideas, and how they folded in with lyrics about honor, pride, respect, and manhood. Its not good gangsta rap unless the artist is using the most over-the-top language s/he can muster.

What makes gangsta rap so virulent is the way it is packaged. It is packaged and presented alongside the mainstream rap, the hip-hop fashions, the break dancing, and the “keeping it real” lifestyle. Only gangsta not out there on the surface. You get the “cut” version on the surface. The hardcore versions are often only spoken about, or alluded to in mainstream venues so a kid has to be in-the-know to find it. And with the Internet, that’s easy enough. Additionally, gangsta rap has the panache of something these kids are “getting over” on their parents, which adds to its allure.

Hip-hop in general makes poverty look chic, and crime look glamorous. Its artists, producers, and promoters would have us believe that its ideas are commonplace among all of the world’s under-served youth. And to some extent they might be, but that’s not what I’m hearing. I’m hearing a piss-poor regurgitation of life in inner-city LA and NY: things these artists have not connection to at all .

In truth it is a vicious money machine that chews up young, poor black men and women, and spits them out of the recording industry at an even faster rate. The vast majority of hip-hop music--especially the hardcore gangsta rap--is sold to suburban white males under age 28. I have seen a couple of TV shows that feature rappers in other countries: France, Italy, and Japan, for example. You see these middle-class kids pretending to be impoverished African-American criminals. It just sickens me.

So when I see this Turkish rapper turning up the volume, I’m not surprised. Maybe he’s trying to capitalize his own difficult journey by gluing it to mine and my brothers’. Maybe he’s just turned a hobby into something that will put money in his pockets and he doesn’t care about the music or the meanings behind it.

Milo
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dback on July 08, 2008, 11:17:15 AM
When I worked for the Wherehouse, we routinely had rap CDs stolen, so they moved them all behind the counter.  An African-American woman decided this was racist and picketed the store for a couple days, until the store pulled out the statistics you mention--overwhelmingly, the buyers (and stealers) were young white men, especially teenagers.

It's a problem, because so much of mainstream music right now is hip-hop based, so to exclude it as a classroom tool is not only racist and classist, it's also just plain dumb.  (I had great success using Public Enemy's "Don't Believe the Hype" in my classroom, tying it in with Whitman's "list" poems, an excerpt from "Howl," & Gil Scott-Heron's "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised.")  The problem is most kids aren't critical listeners, and they just let the homophobia and the mysogeny wash over them and don't question it or shrug it off.  I completely understand the significance of hip-hop as an outlet for young black men in America and as a form of social critique and protest; however, very early on, many artists could've gone the political/socio-criticial path like Public Enemy or A Tribe Called Quest, and instead went the 2 Live Crew route being as offensive as possible because that's what sold.  I'd infinitely rather listen to Kanaye West than Fifty Cent, because the former seems to be really pushing hip-hop in new directions and going for the big issues, compared with "Fitty" (God, I hate that) and his usual list of big guns, treating women like crap, and how he's the biggest, baddest guy in the hood.  Because black men in America were emasculated for so long due to slavery, Jim Crow, etc., the pendulum has now swung to a HYPER-masculine image--ultra sexualized ("playas"), ultra-violent ("thug" "gangsta"), etc.  But this image is killing the community--blacks still suffer instititutionalized discrimination from white America, but overwhelmingly, the violence now foisted upon black men is by other black men.  How sad! 

I always used to walk by The Pendulum in the Castro, which was a mixed black-and-white bar for people to mix and mingle.  I loved watching the affectionate couples, and wondered who would be more offended by the casual affection between these loving men--black America, or white America?  And did these people encounter more racism in their daily lives, or homophobia?
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 08, 2008, 03:54:04 PM
So when I see this Turkish rapper turning up the volume, I’m not surprised. Maybe he’s trying to capitalize his own difficult journey by gluing it to mine and my brothers’. Maybe he’s just turned a hobby into something that will put money in his pockets and he doesn’t care about the music or the meanings behind it.

Milo

Or perhaps he's identifying with the culture that rap grew out of - the Jamaican culture of the toaster via the Bronx (although I have to wonder how many people who listen to rap even know of this connection).  Certainly he would find people who support his homophobic opinions in artists like Beenie Man and Buju Banton.

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/fridayreview/story/0,12102,1369875,00.html

http://www.petertatchell.net/international/blackhomophobia.htm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on July 08, 2008, 07:58:40 PM
So when I see this Turkish rapper turning up the volume, I’m not surprised. Maybe he’s trying to capitalize his own difficult journey by gluing it to mine and my brothers’. Maybe he’s just turned a hobby into something that will put money in his pockets and he doesn’t care about the music or the meanings behind it.

Milo

Or perhaps he's identifying with the culture that rap grew out of - the Jamaican culture of the toaster via the Bronx (although I have to wonder how many people who listen to rap even know of this connection).  Certainly he would find people who support his homophobic opinions in artists like Beenie Man and Buju Banton.

http://arts.guardian.co.uk/fridayreview/story/0,12102,1369875,00.html

http://www.petertatchell.net/international/blackhomophobia.htm

The idea of Turkish rap is not as far-fetched as it might seem at first glance and it might not be merely imitative of Black Americans. Like the latter, Turkish boys have a traditional form of creative, rhythmic competitive abuse of each other. They also insult each other with obscenities about their rivals' mothers. (It has been argued that it's a ritualized response to the trauma of circumcision.)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 08, 2008, 08:30:29 PM
Well part of my mentioning the Jamaican roots of rap, Tony, was that we tend to think of it as an American music form - and it really has roots that are international.  In my library we have an African rap CD, and I've heard that French rap is very popular as well.

I posted an article here not too terribly long ago about the experience of transgender people in Turkey - I think that it is not so much the musical form as the cultural basis of that form that imparts the homophobia.  Here's that article again:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7416369.stm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Brokeback_1 on July 09, 2008, 04:30:49 AM
This is one of the best discussions ever. I showed it to my kid and the perspective of a 22 year old was damned interesting...
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on July 09, 2008, 08:18:50 AM
Or perhaps he's identifying with the culture that rap grew out of - the Jamaican culture of the toaster via the Bronx (although I have to wonder how many people who listen to rap even know of this connection).  Certainly he would find people who support his homophobic opinions in artists like Beenie Man and Buju Banton.

That's certainly a possibility. But really worries me that the whole gangsta set of "values" is being co-opted and held up as an example or ideal of masculinity. I'm aware of the changes that dancehall has undergone as gangsta has fed back so much negativity into it. Which is not to say that Jamaica has not had homophobic, violent, mysogynist, etc. undertones in the past. But my memories of Jamaica (and the rest of the Caribbean) is that people were much happier and less prone to such attitudes. That was 20 years ago, though. It appears the haters have come out of their own closet.

Milo
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on July 09, 2008, 09:09:53 AM
Well part of my mentioning the Jamaican roots of rap, Tony, was that we tend to think of it as an American music form - and it really has roots that are international.  In my library we have an African rap CD, and I've heard that French rap is very popular as well.

I posted an article here not too terribly long ago about the experience of transgender people in Turkey - I think that it is not so much the musical form as the cultural basis of that form that imparts the homophobia.  Here's that article again:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7416369.stm
 

Yes, Michael, I remember the article you posted.

I noticed rap is also popular among Pinoy teenagers in Australia -they are often marginalized. Some of them don't do very well at school, partly because they are often not recognized as non-English speakers because school officials interview their parents or sponsors who do speak English rather than the students themselves. Officials don't realize that English-language education went backwards in the Philippines, so that the older generation speak the language well, but younger people have difficulty understanding and using English in an academic context. The colonial back ground is probably responsible for instilling negative attitudes toward homosexuality among some people too.

I suspect teenagers from the Horn of Africa who have had many years of struggling to survive in war and in refugee camps may respond to rap too. Many of them dress in sagging baggy jeans and backward baseball caps and enjoy basketball. as well they might as many of them are tall.

Crime rates among these groups, however, are lower than for other Australians despite tensions between them and the police on the streets.

Some young Indigenous people play with rap, though Aboriginal people particularly like country music

Rap seems to appeal to youngsters in a number of marginal communities, I think more so than to Anglo-Australians. I doubt it is simply imitation of American music. In many cases, I think it may tie in with their cultural background as with my example of Turkish boys. I haven't taken note of the lyrics when I've heard performers from various backgrounds perform rap in Australia - with my hearing problems, I found it difficult to distinguish song lyrics, so I can't say whether they're homophobic or misogynistic. Groups like the Sudanese are accused in the tabloid media of forming gangs, but hard evidence from police statistics and people who work with them show that it is not true.

BTW, I haven't found a reference to it on the Net to date, but Alan Dundes wrote a fascinating article on Turkish boys' verbal duels which I read in a collection edited by others called Problems in Sociolinguistics  if I recall correctly. Of course my copy is far away in Melbourne. I did came across some info on Dundes on the Net and apparently he wrote a famous article about  Smearing the  Queer and the homosexuality of American football, which brought him both plaudits and death threats.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on July 09, 2008, 10:00:29 AM
I always used to walk by The Pendulum in the Castro, which was a mixed black-and-white bar for people to mix and mingle.  I loved watching the affectionate couples, and wondered who would be more offended by the casual affection between these loving men--black America, or white America?  And did these people encounter more racism in their daily lives, or homophobia?

Ah yes...the Pendulum!! Is it gone??

There are long-standing issues with interracial couples in this country. There is an additional layer of meshugenah when sexual orientation is added to the mix. And negative reactions and attitudes can be dropped into buckets along both racial and gender lines based on my experience.

- When I was in 8th grade, I was infatuated with a girl who played French Horn in the school band. We’ll call her “Cheryl.” Cheryl was from an Irish background. One day after school, I walked her home. Her grandfather was sitting in the living room, and came to the window as we stood on the front lawn talking for a few minutes. After exchanging some parting words, I went back to school to catch my bus. No hug, no kiss, no nothin’.  The next day, Cheryl had to speak with me urgently. She told me that during dinner the previous night, out of the blue, grandpa said, “So who’s the nigger??” To which Cheryl’s older sister replied “Oh that’s Milo. He likes Cheryl.” Cheryl’s parents fell right into this trap, and she was grounded for 2 two weeks.

- During my junior year in high school, I was dating a lovely black girl, “Karen” from a well-established Boston family. Her dad was a judge. Karen and I joined the NAACP together, had a great time visiting each others’ churches, dated, explored each other sexually, etc. Her parents really liked me too. By the time school started in the next fall, things between us had pretty much run their course, and I was losing interest. Shortly after senior year began, I met a white girl who was an exchange student from Germany, “Heidi”. I was smitten with Heidi. I broke things off with Karen. I followed Heidi around like a puppy dog, and eventually started dating her. People who knew Karen and me were puzzled because she was considered such a good catch, and they thought we fit well together. The black people in our set of friends thought I was crazy. They accused me of using Heidi as some sort of trophy. My own brother was angry at me, and accused me of being a self-hating Uncle Tom. Out in public, Heidi and I would get taunted verbally. We would hear things like “nigger-lover!!” yelled by white kids in passing cars. I was once told to “ditch the bitch” by a black guy on the T (Boston’s subway system). More than one black woman confronted me with “aren’t we good enough for you?” Boston was not a kind city for mixed-race couples in the 70s-80s.

- By 1985 I had moved to Philadelphia. I started seeing a white guy “Fred.” For the most part we didn’t have any overt problems. Race relations in Philadelphia were much better than in Boston. The black gays that were in my social circle did tend to treat Fred as if he was some sort of prize. They would offer me advice on how to keep a white man happy. Once at a party, a gay white guy who knew us took Fred aside. He told Fred that I was nice enough, but that Fred was a good-looking guy and that he could easily find a white guy to be with.

- Over the 20 years that I have been with my man David, we have heard all kinds of comments and assumptions from white and black alike. The “white trophy” assumption never seems to go away. Some people assume that I’m in this relationship for the money, which is a common assumption about blacks who love whites: as if blacks are incapable of making their own money. Some people assume that David is in it for the sex, which is a common assumption about whites who love blacks: because blacks are sexual beasts. Of course the flip-side of that coin occurs too: people assume that David must be a beast in the bedroom, or else he wouldn’t be able to keep up with me. Once, a black man who had the hots for me told me that David couldn’t satisfy me like he could: the assumption being that David has a small penis because he’s white. My brother went through a phase where he was introducing me to the gay black men that he knew. Apparently he is/was more concerned with the fact that David is white, than the fact that David is a man.

David and I have only had a few of instances where someone said something about us being a male couple. One was a snide comment I overheard made by a straight bartender to a waiter at a restaurant where we (until that night ) had been regular customers. The other time was once at a straight nightclub where we were regulars, and knew the owners quite well. In the latter case, David and I had been out drinking after work--it was a going-away party for one of the staff where we both worked. It was just after last call, and I had come back to the table with our final drinks for the night. David thanked me, and kissed me on  the lips. The bouncer came over and told us, rather gruffly, that we had to stop that. We explained that there was hardly anyone around, other straight couples were making out at various tables, and that we knew the husband and wife that owned the place quite well. The bouncer softened his demeanor, and said that it was for our own safety.

So on balance, David and I have had more inconveniences as a mixed-race couple than as  a same-sex couple. And as my other experiences illustrate, that has been consistent for me my whole life.

Milo
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 09, 2008, 01:24:51 PM
Ah yes...the Pendulum!! Is it gone??

Not to get off topic (although I suppose this fits under the wider discussion of discrimination) - but sadly yes.  It was purchased by the same guy who ran 'Badlands' here and that was nothing but bad news:

http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?article=723&sec=news

When I came to San Francisco there was more than one Black Gay bar here - the Eagle Creek was another (it was actually a Black Gay Biker bar [!!!] to be more accurate) - but it too is now gone - replaced by a Cannabis dispensary now.  But then again there were more lesbian bars than gay bars in SF in the 50s - and now there are only 2.   I guess we've all gotten married and taken up quilting now....
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dback on July 09, 2008, 01:27:03 PM
Fascinating perspective!  Thanks for sharing, Milo. 

I've never wanted to be the kind of guy who "collects" lovers of different races, nationalities, etc., but out of some 28 partners, 3 or 4 have been black, 1 was Japanese, 1 was Jewish, and the rest were a mixture of "mutts," though I do have a regular attraction to dark hair, especially Irish/Italian guys.  I think at this point it'd be rather tacky to sleep with a guy just because I've never been with a Latino guy, or a Native America guy, etc.  The "fetishization" of the Other is often meant to be a compliment, but it can definitely come across as racist.  (Don't get me started on people who not only fetishize black or Latino men, they want "thugz"--the more tats and gang-banger attitude, the better.  All sorts of weird psychological stuff going on there.  Still, I can't talk--a tought Italian guy from Brooklyn or Bensonhurst in a wife-beater would probably melt my circuits.) 

This brings up other dicey issues, like Do Men Crave Danger As A Sexual High, which then can be spun into a case of gays "asking for it" when they pick up rough trade, etc.  (Shades of Matthew Shepard.)  It's then seen as a blame-the-victim scenario by society: "Well, if they wouldn't go looking for sex in parks or on docks or in alleys, like NORMAL people..."
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 09, 2008, 01:40:26 PM
That's certainly a possibility. But really worries me that the whole gangsta set of "values" is being co-opted and held up as an example or ideal of masculinity. I'm aware of the changes that dancehall has undergone as gangsta has fed back so much negativity into it. Which is not to say that Jamaica has not had homophobic, violent, mysogynist, etc. undertones in the past. But my memories of Jamaica (and the rest of the Caribbean) is that people were much happier and less prone to such attitudes. That was 20 years ago, though. It appears the haters have come out of their own closet.

Milo

It's important to note that those values do not just come from gangsta 'culture' Milo (although I certainly agree with what you say about the negativity involved in it).  Pop music culture has generally had a homophobic stripe - from back to the 50s when Johnnie Ray's musical career crashed and burned after he was caught in a men's room sting (while Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin and still records to today).  And the Beastie Boy's 'Licence to Ill' was originally entitled 'Don't be a Faggot' till CBS told them that wasn't a good idea.  Of course they have apologized now:

http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/570179/12171999/beastie_boys.jhtml

So I suppose we should all thank god for the Dalai Lama  ;)

I'm sure your memories of Jamaica are pleasant ones - and I rather doubt that the whole dancehall mentality had much to do with the day to day life of Jamaicans.  But as you said in an earlier post here the efforts of fundamentalists in the Caribbean have had an effect.  I remember the whole stink over gay cruise ships both in the Bahamas and the Cayman Islands in 1998:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/78146.stm

I do remember, however when a DJ friend of mine (we worked together at a record store) told me about 'Two Lesbians Hitch' by Johnny Ringo in the early 80s.  It was another of those songs that suggested that same-sex people should be done away with.  I suppose the good news is that he wouldn't get away with that now (were he still with us).  It wasn't till the late 80s when Shabba Ranks started out with his vile nonsense that people started calling musicians to task.

Btw, I came across two good web pages associated with this whole discussion - a history of gay issues in Jamaica prior to the dancehall controversies and the subsequent controversy here:

http://www.soulrebels.org/dancehall/d_history_1976.htm

And a list of homophobic dancehall (and reggae) songs here:

http://www.soulrebels.org/dancehall/e_songs.htm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dback on July 09, 2008, 01:43:37 PM
On the other hand, lots of homoEROTIC lyrics have been contained in music, we just don't notice them.  Has anyone ever really listened to the lyrics for "Jailhouse Rock"?  It ain't about dancing, and there ain't any women in that prison.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 09, 2008, 01:51:28 PM
On the other hand, lots of homoEROTIC lyrics have been contained in music, we just don't notice them.  Has anyone ever really listened to the lyrics for "Jailhouse Rock"?  It ain't about dancing, and there ain't any women in that prison.

That is certainly true enough.  But then again, I've always thought that all of the homophobia in pop music was at least in part due to a reaction to the perception that there was something more than a little queer about boys idolizing their rock heroes.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on July 09, 2008, 02:32:24 PM
though I do have a regular attraction to dark hair, especially Irish/Italian guys.  I think at this point it'd be rather tacky to sleep with a guy just because I've never been with a Latino guy, or a Native America guy, etc.  The "fetishization" of the Other is often meant to be a compliment, but it can definitely come across as racist.  (Don't get me started on people who not only fetishize black or Latino men, they want "thugz"--the more tats and gang-banger attitude, the better.  All sorts of weird psychological stuff going on there.  Still, I can't talk--a tought Italian guy from Brooklyn or Bensonhurst in a wife-beater would probably melt my circuits.) 

I know what you mean. And it is difficult to describe to people that while I do have a preference, it is not exclusionary (although at this point, all other men besides David are excluded sexually). There were black and latino men that I found desirable when I was younger, and we had our fun. I even tried move towards relationships with one or two of them, but that just wasn’t in the cards.

I also think that some of it has to do with my assimilation into white suburban culture. I have always found that sometimes urban blacks and latinos have a difficult time connecting with me because I’m “too white.” There’s no way I could ever make much progress with guys like that. Also, because so many of my close friends were white suburbanites, I often felt more comfortable with them than I did with urban blacks. And the blacks that I socialize with (“Karen” for example) were/are more often than not fairly suburbanized themselves. Think “professional” rather than “thug.”

But on a gut level, I just like white men. And I am unanimous in that . When my eyes wander, that’s where they go.

This brings up other dicey issues, like Do Men Crave Danger As A Sexual High, which then can be spun into a case of gays "asking for it" when they pick up rough trade, etc.  (Shades of Matthew Shepard.)  It's then seen as a blame-the-victim scenario by society: "Well, if they wouldn't go looking for sex in parks or on docks or in alleys, like NORMAL people..."

I’m glad you brought this up because it is one aspect of gay bashing that I don’t think gets talked about much…here or anywhere else. The cruising element is a part of life for many guys. And let’s face it, cruising areas attract their share of unsavory characters. Some are looking for money. Some are just there because they know it’s a harassment-free place to get high. Some are there looking for a fight. Unfortunately some guys aren’t that good at sizing up someone they meet in a cruising area. Personally, when I was out there, I was always sizing the guys up. Did they look like thieves or homeless? If necessary, can I overpower the guy? Should I let him make the first move just to be sure he’s cool with this? Is he too drunk/high? These are the kinds of “routines” that would run through my head.

Now if you’re out cruising a park and you get robbed or beat up, that’s certainly not your fault. At the same time, one has to take precautions…or take protection…or both.

Milo
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 10, 2008, 05:16:31 PM
Barnes Advocates Gay Bashing Strategy For McCain
By On Top Magazine Staff
Published: July 06, 2008


Conservative political commentator Fred Barnes is advising Republican presidential hopeful Senator John McCain to exploit gay issues as a strategy to win the White House in the fall election against Democratic rival Senator Barack Obama.

On Fox News Sunday, the Weekly Standard executive editor and The Beltway Boys co-host, said he believed McCain needed to use the issues of gay marriage and “Don't Ask, Don't Tell” - the military's policy baning gays from serving openly in the Armed Forces - to rally conservative voters.

http://www.ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=1964&mediaType=1&category=25
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: bradINblue on July 10, 2008, 10:17:34 PM

I’m glad you brought this up because it is one aspect of gay bashing that I don’t think gets talked about much…here or anywhere else. The cruising element is a part of life for many guys. And let’s face it, cruising areas attract their share of unsavory characters. Some are looking for money. Some are just there because they know it’s a harassment-free place to get high. Some are there looking for a fight. Unfortunately some guys aren’t that good at sizing up someone they meet in a cruising area. Personally, when I was out there, I was always sizing the guys up. Did they look like thieves or homeless? If necessary, can I overpower the guy? Should I let him make the first move just to be sure he’s cool with this? Is he too drunk/high? These are the kinds of “routines” that would run through my head.

Now if you’re out cruising a park and you get robbed or beat up, that’s certainly not your fault. At the same time, one has to take precautions…or take protection…or both.

Milo


In Portland, OR gay bashing and racially motivated attacks for that matter, are way down. This trend, while remarkable on the west coast, is also reflected across the country according to NCIC statistics. It is good news for sure. In my 20+ years in law enforcement, most reported gay bashings including property crimes against gays, the victims have been:

--older men cruising parks/rest areas for sex, hooking up with a younger thug who preys on these guys, and gets robbed. Cruising parks/rest areas for sex was so bad in the 80's and early 90's, some were closed. This type of cruising had significantly diminished, and in some parks in the Portland area, it doesn't exist. No victims, no crimes I suppose.

--guys leave gay bars and are wondering around drunk out of their minds, on the street at 4 in the morning. Again, there are street thugs out there looking to make a buck. These guys get targeted. Also, really drunk people do stupid things. A gay guy may leave a bar horny, and go looking for sex in the wrong place and end up getting punched in the nose. Not unlike some straight nucklehead you gets drunk and picks up on some other dudes chick. He gets punched or the shit kicked outta him, just the same, thing is, it doesn't count as a bashing.

--guys bring tricks home and end up getting burglarized or robbed.

I'm not saying these guys deserve to get victimized. What I am saying based on my first hand experience investigating some of these, is that like Milo pointed out, people engage in dangerous or stupid behavior, and get victimized.

The 'gay bashing' of two guys minding their business walking down Main Street holding hands at noon is very rare, to the point I've never seen it happen. Being called a name is rare, and isn't gay bashing.

Brad
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 19, 2008, 10:54:07 AM
First of three sentenced in motel attack
By James Monteleone The Daily Times
Article Launched: 07/17/2008 12:00:00 AM MDT

FARMINGTON — The first of three men convicted of a September attack prosecutors believed targeted the victim for being gay was sentenced to less than a year in jail in district court Tuesday.

Craig Yazzie, 38, was sentenced to serve nine months in the county jail after pleading no contest to reduced charges of fourth-degree false imprisonment and misdemeanor battery. Following the jail time, Yazzie will be required to serve a six-month in-patient alcohol treatment program, District Judge John Dean said.

As a condition of the plea, a hate crime sentencing enhancement was dropped.

"The state told me that he grabbed the victim, dragged him in the room and helped hit him," Dean said while sentencing Yazzie. "I believe that he was the second-most culpable person. I don't believe he was in the wrong place at the wrong time."

Yazzie, of Dennehotso, Ariz., faced up to two and a half years in prison from the plea.

story continues:

http://www.daily-times.com/ci_9903691?source=most_emailed
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 19, 2008, 10:56:48 AM
Anti-gay slurs painted on Wilton Manors homes
July 19, 2008
Miami Herald
BY ADAM H. BEASLEY

Vandals scrawled anti-gay slurs on three Wilton Manors homes early Friday, an incident police are investigating as a hate crime.

Someone wrote the slurs on three adjacent houses in the 2800 block of Northeast Seventh Avenue, an area with a large gay population. Five cars also were defaced with black spray paint.

Wilton Manors police investigator David C. Jones believes it was a random attack. A straight couple live in one of the homes that were hit.

That came as little consolation to Aaron Challancin, who awoke Friday morning to police knocking on his door. He saw the slurs when he walked outside.

''There's no reason for this to happen,'' Challancin said. ``We didn't do anything to anyone. We're normal people trying to live normal lives.''

While there have been at least two physical attacks on gays in Fort Lauderdale in recent months -- including the shooting death of teenager Simmie Lewis Williams in February -- Wilton Manors is considered a very gay-friendly town, residents say.

This makes Friday's incident all the more puzzling -- and jarring.

story continues:

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/broward/story/610114.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 19, 2008, 10:58:40 AM
Was Ahmet Yildiz the victim of Turkey's first gay honour killing?
 By Nicholas Birch in Istanbul
Saturday, 19 July 2008

In a corner of Istanbul today, the man who might be described as Turkey's gay poster boy will be buried – a victim, his friends believe, of the country's deepening friction between an increasingly liberal society and its entrenched conservative traditions.

Ahmet Yildiz, 26, a physics student who represented his country at an international gay gathering in San Francisco last year, was shot leaving a cafe near the Bosphorus strait this week. Fatally wounded, the student tried to flee the attackers in his car, but lost control, crashed at the side of the road and died shortly afterwards in hospital. His friends believe Mr Yildiz was the victim of the country's first gay honour killing.

"He fell victim to a war between old mentalities and growing civil liberties," says Sedef Cakmak, a friend and a member of the gay rights lobby group Lambda. "I feel helpless: we are trying to raise awareness of gay rights in this country, but the more visible we become, the more we open ourselves up to this sort of attack."

story continues:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/was-ahmet-yildiz-the-victim-of-turkeys-first-gay-honour-killing-871822.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 19, 2008, 11:00:53 AM
Witness Lost in Gay Murder Case
Gay City News
 By: DUNCAN OSBORNE
07/17/2008

With the second trial approaching for the accused killer of Edgar Garzon, a 35-year-old gay man, the Queens district attorney has lost contact with the primary witness in its case against John L. McGhee, the man who allegedly beat Garzon to death in 2001.

"She announced that they don't have him," said Charles D. Abercrombie, McGhee's attorney, referring to comments made at a May hearing by Karen L. Ross, the prosecutor in the case.

Gay City News learned that Christopher Ricalde, the witness, was missing at a July 10 hearing at which Ross, Abercrombie and Robert J. Hanophy, the trial judge, discussed holding a hearing before the August 7 trial date to decide if the prosecutor can use the transcript of Ricalde's testimony from McGhee's first trial in lieu of his testifying.

Ross would not talk to Gay City News after the July hearing and the district attorney's press office did not respond to a call seeking comment

story continues:

http://www.gaycitynews.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19858038&BRD=2729&PAG=461&dept_id=568864&rfi=6
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 19, 2008, 11:07:27 AM
Second trial for 'ferocious' murder of gay man
By JODY O'CALLAGHAN - Manawatu Standard | Tuesday, 15 July 2008

The man convicted of murdering gay Palmerston North man Stanley Waipouri in a "ferocious" attack will take the stand as a Crown witness in the re-trial of his co-accused and former friend Andre Gilling.

Ashley Benjamin Arnopp was convicted and sentenced for his part in the brutal slaying that lasted for more than an hour on the night of December 22, 2006.

Gilling, 18, maintained his not guilty plea when a fresh trial began in the High Court at Palmerston North yesterday.

The trial is set down for seven days.

In his opening address to the jury, Crown prosecutor Paul Murray said Arnopp would take the stand for the Crown.

"He is willing to give evidence but you'll hear, perhaps naturally or understandably, he sought reward for that," Mr Murray said.

"None has been given, nor will it be."

Gilling, Arnopp and Mr Waipouri had been drinking, smoking cannabis and taking party pills before the "sustained and ferocious" attack at Mr Waipouri's Rangitikei Street flat.

story continues:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4619340a12855.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 19, 2008, 11:08:44 AM
Transgender/priest attack is troubling
BY YALDAZ SADAKOVA
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 8:44 PM EDT

Astoria’s Steinway Street, like the rest of the neighborhood, embodies tolerance: Greek restaurants coexist with Starbucks coffee shops; women wearing headscarves brush shoulders with females who don’t.

But last Monday, intolerance ruled there. Four neighborhood teens viciously attacked and repeatedly beat a transgender woman and a priest who had come to her defense.

Condemning the crime, local politicians and the victims themselves expressed hope that the teens, who face assault and possibly hate crime charges, will get what they deserve. But, much to their chagrin, the attackers were released without bail.

“When the crime is as serious as this was, I would hope the judge would have set a significant bail. I’m disappointed on that,” said Assemblymember Michael Gianaris, who represents the area.

story continues:

http://www.queenscourier.com/articles/2008/07/17/news/top_stories/news20.txt
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 19, 2008, 11:10:40 AM
'Proud' murder accused wouldn't spill, jury told

By JODY O'CALLAGHAN - Manawatu Standard | Friday, 18 July 2008

Andre Gilling is proud of his part in the brutal murder of gay man Stanley Waipouri, convicted murderer Ashley Arnopp told the High Court in Palmerston North.

Arnopp took the stand yesterday on the fourth day of Gilling's retrial for Mr Waipouri's murder, which Gilling has denied.

He told the court how the two had punched and kicked the 39-year-old in an alcohol, cannabis and party pill-fuelled rage on the night of December 22, 2006.

He is serving a jail sentence for his part in the murder - but Gilling, 18, never had any intention of owning up, he said.

"In a conversation I had with Andre Gilling during the trial he said a few things that were just like he didn't give a f*** eh."

But both carried out the murder at Mr Waipouri's Rangitikei Street flat that night - Gilling was even the instigator, he said.

"Andre said f*** it let's kill the c***

story continues:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4622918a10.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 19, 2008, 12:02:22 PM
Man pleads guilty in death of teacher
 Published 07/17/2008
by Seth Hemmelgarn
Bay Area Reporter

The man accused in the February killing of John Alfred Dennis Jr., a gay college teacher from Oakland, pleaded guilty to the crime Monday, July 7. He is expected to spend the rest of his life in prison.

Troy Tyrone Thomas III, 43, pleaded guilty to first-degree murder with special circumstances, as well as being an ex-convict in possession of a firearm, according to Mark Jackson, Alameda County deputy district attorney.

Jackson confirmed that, as reported in the Oakland Tribune, Thomas's intention had been to use Dennis's name and take over his assets.

story continues:

http://ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=3159
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 19, 2008, 12:05:52 PM
N. Carolina bullying ban dies in committee
Friday, July 18, 2008 / 11:36 AM
The Advocate

North Carolina legislation protecting schoolchildren from bullying died Thursday in committee, Raleigh's News & Observer reported.

"The failure of this bill to pass . . . sends a bad message," state Sen. Doug Berger told the Observer.

The controversy that prevented the bill from passing surrounded the addition of "sexual orientation" as a reason a student may face discrimination or bullying, the Observer reported.

story continues:

http://www.planetout.com/news/article.html?2008/07/18/4
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 19, 2008, 12:08:02 PM
Study: Gay teens at triple the bullying risk
Tuesday, April 3, 2007 / 10:00 AM
Advocate

A new U.S. study reveals that gay and lesbian teens are three to four times more likely to report being bullied than straight teens.

Conducted by researchers at Children's Hospital Boston Division of Adolescent Medicine, the study reveals as well that bisexual teens identifying as "mostly heterosexual" are twice as likely to be bullied.

"It's clear that sexual-minority youth are a population vulnerable to bullying," researcher Dr. Elise Berlan said Friday.

"This needs to be addressed, particularly in schools."

The study, which analyzed data of 7,500 adolescents age 14 to 22, has been described as the most comprehensive study of bullying and sexual orientation to date.

story continues:

http://www.planetout.com/news/article.html?date=2007/04/03/2
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 19, 2008, 12:34:52 PM
I was interested in the Simmie Lewis Williams death in Fort Lauderdale mentioned in the article on the Wilton Manors hate speech article, and decided to go back and find it:

Gay teen murdered in Fort Lauderdale
Mother, gay groups speak out about possible hate crime
By JUAN CARLOS RODRIGUEZ
Thursday, February 28, 2008

Like any mother whose son is killed in a late-night street shooting, Denise King is having a hard time coming to terms with the circumstances surrounding the death of her son, Simmie Lewis Williams.

Williams, just 17 years old, was shot in the early morning of Feb. 22 at Sistrunk Boulevard and NW 10th Avenue in Fort Lauderdale. According to police, Williams was dressed in women’s clothing at the time of the shooting and was walking in an area known for prostitution.

Kathy Collins, police spokesperson, said Williams was dressed like a women, but he was not wearing a dress.

Detectives have not determined whether the shooting was a hate crime, Collins said. So far, they have gotten few leads to identify the suspects or the circumstances of the shooting.

“We’re not getting any help,” Collins said. “Even though the area was populated, we are not getting any calls.”

Although the details are sparse, police believe Williams may have been involved in an altercation with one or two suspects before the shooting.

story continues:

http://www.expressgaynews.com/2008/2-28/news/localnews/

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 19, 2008, 12:39:11 PM
And the article mentioned other violence in Fort Lauderdale - I found this story of two men who made the mistake of saying 'Good Morning' to the wrong person:

Police search for man who attacked gay couple
Fox 7 News - Ft. Lauderdale
February 26, 2008

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (WSVN) -- Police are searching for a man driven by hate, who beat a gay man and threatened him and his partner, after they finished a meal at an outdoor restaurant.

The couple were dining at the Floridian restaurant on Las Olas Boulevard with a friend around 3 a.m. Saturday when they say a stranger verbally and physically attacked them. "I can barely see out of my right eye at this point, I got scrapes..." said Melbourne Brunner.

Brunner said he received the injuries from the stranger who walked by their table and targeted him for no other reason besides the fact that he is a gay man. Brunner said they tried to be cordial with the stranger when they first made eye contact. "He looked down at us, and my partner said, 'Good morning,' and that was it."

Brunner recalled, moments later, the man returned visibly upset. "He just started with this barrage, of, 'Are you looking at me, you faggot? You know what I do to faggots? I break their necks!'"

story continues:

http://www1.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/MI78009/
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 19, 2008, 12:46:33 PM
Victimization of gays get little attention in the media
By William Butte
Source: South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com

"Are you looking at me, you faggot? You know what I do to faggots? I break their necks!"

Melbourne Brunner heard this expression of irrationality, fear and hatred just moments before he was attacked by a stranger last month in front of a restaurant on Fort Lauderdale's toniest street. Brunner's partner had the temerity to say "Good morning" to the would-be assailant when they made eye-contact as he passed by their table.

But Brunner was lucky, so to speak. He survived the assault, since his assailant only used his fists, not a gun.

Across town, Simmie Williams Jr. wasn't as fortunate. The day before Brunner was attacked, the 17-year-old who favored the name Beyonce and was dressed as a woman, was shot and killed on a stretch of Sistrunk Boulevard known for transgender prostitution. Witnesses had heard an argument between Williams and two men that may have included anti-gay slurs.

That Fort Lauderdale's mayor hasn't said anything about either incident isn't surprising, since he still seems more passionately obsessed with men's rooms than Larry "Wide Stance" Craig.

But if you're surprised that these two incidents could happen on the supposedly über gay-friendly streets of Fort Lauderdale, perhaps it's because very few gay-related hate crimes receive mainstream media attention.

story continues:

http://rashawnbrazell.blogspot.com/2008/03/victimization-of-gays-get-little.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 05:35:31 PM
Muslim gang attacks gay catwalk model
By Tony Grew • June 6, 2008 - 14:45

Gay people in Holland have been shocked by a public attack on a gay man in Amsterdam.

Model Mike Du Pree was taking part in a fashion show to promote tolerance towards gay people when a gang of ten Muslim youths dragged him from the catwalk and beat him.

A right wing Dutch MP has called for the youths to be deported.

Mr Du Pree's nose was broken in the attack, which was motivated by homophobia.

The fashion event was held on a public holiday marking the birth of Holland's late Queen Julianna.

story continues:

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/?p=7856
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 05:40:43 PM
Court: Pelting Gays With Eggs Protected Free Speech
by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff
Posted: July 9, 2008 - 5:00 pm ET

(Budapest) Four of more than a dozen people arrested for throwing eggs at a gay pride march in Budapest on Saturday received minor fines on Wednesday, while charges against three others were dismissed and charges against the others were dropped.

Those fined were convicted only because they refused to obey a police order to disperse.

In delivering the verdicts in the case the court ruled that simply throwing eggs at a group you disagree with is simply an exercise in free speech Hungarian media reported Wednesday.

The court noted that police on the scene of the parade at first did not want to file charges against the protestors but were ordered to do so by senior officers.

story continues:

http://365gay.com/Newscon08/07/070908hun.htm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 05:43:47 PM
U.S. Attorney drops charge in Georgetown gay bashing
Prosecutors cite insufficient evidence to link suspect to crime
LOU CHIBBARO JR
Friday, April 25, 2008

The United States Attorney’s office on April 17 dropped an assault charge against a Georgetown University student who had been accused by D.C. police of physically attacking a fellow Georgetown student last fall while shouting anti-gay epithets at him.

Police on Sept. 27 charged Philip Anderton Cooney, then a 19-year-old Georgetown sophomore and the son of a former White House official, with simple assault, a misdemeanor, in connection with a Sept. 9 gay bashing incident that took place less than two blocks from the main entrance to the campus.

The U.S. Attorney’s office later upgraded the charge to a “bias related” assault motivated by animus toward the victim’s perceived sexual orientation. But the office changed its mind and withdrew that designation several weeks before dropping the charge last week, according to sources familiar with the case.

story continues:

http://www.washblade.com/2008/4-25/news/localnews/12461.cfm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 05:45:56 PM
McInerney lawyer: "This is not gay-bashing"
published Monday, June 16, 2008

A California judge last week postponed the arraignment of 14-year-old Brandon McInerney, charged with premeditated murder with a special hate-crime allegation in the slaying of 15-year-old gay classmate Lawrence King. Thursday's postponement was the second in just over a month.

Witnesses say that on Feb. 12, McInerney shot King in the head just as first period began in a packed classroom at E.O. Green Junior High School in Oxnard, a port city of 200,000 about 60 miles north of Los Angeles.

Ventura County Superior Court Judge Kevin McGee continued the arraignment until July 24 to permit McInerney's attorney, Senior Deputy Public Defender William Quest, to file a motion which, if successful, would transfer the case to juvenile court.

story continues:

http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2008/06/16/5
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 05:49:10 PM
Sacramento Men Arrested For Gay Bashing
Orange County Register
Published on May 16, 2008

Three Sacramento men have been arrested after a beating that law enforcement officials describe as a hate crime against homosexuals…

The Thursday evening incident at a Sacramento gas station came just hours after the California Supreme Court issued a ruling overturning a state ban on same-sex marriages.

A 23-year-old Sacramento man was sitting with another man in a car near the station's restroom when the three suspects asked if he was a homosexual, Sacramento Police Officer Michelle Lazark said.

story continues at the Southern Poverty Law Center website:

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/hatewatch/item.jsp?hid=1564
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 06:00:48 PM
Possible gay-bashing
By John Wright - News Editor
Jul 17, 2008 - 9:53:32 PM

Police have identified the victim of a possible gay-bashing that occurred late Wednesday or early Thursday in Oak Lawn, but the man’s medical condition remains unknown.

Janice Crowther, a senior corporal for the Dallas Police Department, said Friday morning that the victim had been identified as Jimmy R. Dean. Crowther said Dean’s age was unknown, but a man who witnessed the crime estimated that Dean in his late 30s or early 40s.

Dean was brutally beaten at about midnight Wednesday on Dickason Avenue between Throckmorton and Reagan streets, a block from the Cedar Springs strip.
Two suspects, who were initially apprehended by security guards from nearby gay nightclubs, have been arrested in connection with the crime. The suspects, 26-year-old Bobby Jack Singleton and 31-year-old Jonathan Russell Gunter, both of Garland, are charged with aggravated robbery. Singleton’s bond was set at $25,000, and Gunter’s bond was set at $100,000.

Crowther said Friday that police believe the primary motive for the attack was robbery. According to DPD reports, authorities recovered a Zippo lighter and a set of keys from the suspects that belonged to the victim.

“It’s being looked at from all avenues, as a possible hate crime and definitely a robbery,” Crowther said. “They [the suspects] did say that they robbed him because he was gay and they thought it would be easier to rob somebody because he’s gay.”

story continues:

http://www.dallasvoice.com/artman/publish/article_9395.php
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 06:05:15 PM
Parliament member tells gay bashing victim to seek ex-gay therapy
June 7, 2008

"As far as I'm concerned they're scum.... It's enough to take a life - there were three of them on me and I was left for dead."

Stephen Scott of Newtownabbey (an area in the northeast part of the United Kingdom) who says he was the victim of a homophobic attack -- kicked, punched and shouted at -- by three teens as he was walking home.

"I have a very lovely psychiatrist who works with me in my offices and his Christian background is that he tries to help homosexuals - trying to turn away from what they are engaged in.... I'm happy to put any homosexual in touch with this gentleman and I have met people who have turned around and become heterosexuals."

Iris Robinson, a Member of Parliament from Northern Ireland, speaking with BBC Radio about the anti-gay beating of Stephen Scott. [audio clip] (BBC)

story continues:

http://www.metroweekly.com/gauge/last_word/2008/06/gay-man-bashed-by-teens-in-uk.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 06:08:05 PM
1 Year Probation in Gay-Bashing Case
Cambridge man convicted of assaulting Harvard student en route to a BGLTSA party
 Published On Thursday, September 28, 2006  12:36 AM
By REED B. RAYMAN and MATTHEW S. BLUMENTHAL
Crimson Staff Writers

The 26-year-old Cambridge resident accused of assaulting an openly gay Harvard undergraduate last April was found guilty in Middlesex District Court yesterday, in a day-long trial that featured passionate testimonies by the victim and witnesses.

Timothy J. Kelleher was found guilty of assault and battery and was sentenced to one year of probation and 50 hours of community service, narrowly escaping the six-month prison sentence sought by the prosecutor.

The verdict comes a day after all charges were dropped against a second defendant, Jose T. Sousa, 26, stemming from an incident in which both were accused of verbally and physically abusing a Harvard undergraduate as he walked on Bow Street to a Bisexual, Gay, Lesbian, Transgender, and Supporters Alliance (BGLTSA) party in Adams House on April 30, 2005.

story continues:

http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=514537
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 20, 2008, 06:09:34 PM
Court: Pelting Gays With Eggs Protected Free Speech
by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff
Posted: July 9, 2008 - 5:00 pm ET

In delivering the verdicts in the case the court ruled that simply throwing eggs at a group you disagree with is simply an exercise in free speech Hungarian media reported Wednesday.

story continues:

http://365gay.com/Newscon08/07/070908hun.htm

Oh, isn't that lovely?  Maybe next time they'll use stones.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 06:14:09 PM
Oh, isn't that lovely?

Pretty typical Chuck - here's a case where someone gets 3 years in prison for killing a gay person - even though they have messages from him where he said anti-gay things afterwards:

Stephen Moller gets three years in Sean Kennedy's death at club
By Eric Connor • STAFF WRITER • June 12, 2008

The Taylors teenager who threw a single, fatal punch at Sean Kennedy outside an Eastside bar was sentenced Wednesday to three years in prison after an impassioned argument about the role Kennedy’s sexual orientation may have played.
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Stephen Andrew Moller pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter, admitting he punched 20-year-old Kennedy in the face in the parking lot of the former Brew’s Pub on Pelham Road in May 2007 after a night of drinking.

Kennedy’s head hit the pavement, causing fatal brain damage.

Moller, who turns 20 on Friday, originally was charged with murder and faced the possibility of life in prison until Greenville County’s chief prosecutor offered the alternate involuntary manslaughter charge after a grand jury found "no malicious intent." The lesser charges carry a maximum sentence of five years.

In the year since Kennedy’s death, his mother, Elke Kennedy, has decried her son’s killing as a hate crime. Shortly after the death, a warrant alleged that the assault was motivated by the fact that Kennedy was gay.

However, in court Wednesday, prosecutor Mark Moyer read a statement Moller gave to an investigator in which he said he didn’t know Kennedy was gay until after he punched him and that he hit him because he was angry that Kennedy had inadvertently brushed his face with his hand.

No evidence was presented during the hearing that Moller acknowledged Kennedy’s homosexuality before the attack.

Shortly after Moller hit Kennedy, Moller called a girl that Kennedy was with outside the bar and left a voice message mixed with laughter, profanity and anti-homosexual epithets bragging about the assault, Moyer said.

story continues:

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008306120004
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 20, 2008, 06:16:45 PM
Well, I'm pissed and disheartened to see these articles, but thank you for posting them.  It shows that even though we've come far, we've still got some way to go.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 06:17:00 PM
Gay Teen Bashed in Niterói
12/06/2007

O Globo Online has just reported today that 19-year old student Ferruccio Silvestro was beat up on the night of November 30th. Leaving a gay club in São Domingos, Niterói, Ferrucio was approached by three middle-class boys in their early 20s who screamed at him "We don't want faggots in our neighborhood." Ferrucio tried to run and hide at a nearby gas station, but the group of boys reached him, and kicked him to the ground, leaving him unconscious. The gay teen spent the last four days at the hospital, and is set to press charges tomorrow.

story continues:

http://madeinbrazil.typepad.com/madeinbrazil/2007/12/gay-teen-bashed.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 06:24:01 PM
Well, I'm pissed and disheartened to see these articles, but thank you for posting them.  It shows that even though we've come far, we've still got some way to go.

I just thought it was important to present evidence that this still exists - all over the country and around the world.  And that often people deny that it happens - and that the perpetrators are always quick to deny that they were motivated by hate.

Beating Of Gay Sac Man Appears To Be Hate Crime
Jun 20, 2008 8:56 pm US/Pacific

 SACRAMENTO (CBS13) ―  Marquis Bryant says he was just leaving a nightclub when four men beat him so badly he had to be hospitalized.

A bruised head and swollen eye didn't stop 20-year-old Marquis from speaking publicly about the attack. After what happened, he says he's afraid of more attacks, but he's not afraid of who he is.

"I've been called names while I was out, but never like this," said Bryant.

Bryant says the attackers started yelling offensive remarks.

"I was being called a 'fag', a 'faggott.' The next thing I know I'm hitting the ground," said Bryant.

story continues:

http://cbs13.com/local/Hate.Crime.Beating.2.753645.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 06:31:27 PM
Here's a good site:

http://www.gender.org/remember/about/core.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 06:37:24 PM
Man convicted in fatal 1989 gay-bashing found dead in cell
Last Updated: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 | 4:59 PM ET
CBC News

A man convicted of second-degree murder for throwing another man off an Ottawa bridge 19 years ago has been found dead in his prison cell in Laval, Que.

Jeffrey Lalonde, 36, was pronounced dead shortly after 3 a.m. Monday morning at the medium-security Leclerc institution, the Correctional Service of Canada said in a news release.

Quebec provincial police are investigating the circumstances that led up to Lalonde's death in collaboration with the Correctional Service of Canada and the coroner's office.

Lalonde had been at the penitentiary since 1990 serving a life sentence for second-degree murder, attempted murder and assault in the August 1989 slaying of Alain Brosseau, a waiter at the Château Laurier hotel.

Lalonde and two accomplices killed Brosseau because they thought he was gay, which he was not.

story continues:

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/ottawa/story/2008/05/27/ot-lalonde-080527.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 06:41:29 PM
Vicious Gay Bashing at Flagstaff Pride
by Kilian Melloy
EDGE Contributor
Wednesday Jun 25, 2008

Two men waiting for a taxi after a day of affirmation at a Gay Pride event in Flagstaff, Ariz., were attacked in what local authorities have pegged as an anti-gay hate crime.

Four men were placed under arrest after the attack, reported the Arizona Daily Sun in a June 24 article.

The event, called Pride in the Pines, was conducted in Flagstaff’s Wheeler Park on Sat., June 21. Hours after the event concluded, just before 3:00 a.m. on the morning of June 22, Michael Brown, 25, a r4sident of Phoenix, and an unnamed 23-year-old Okla. man were assaulted. The attackers allegedly hurled anti-gay epithets.

Brown suffered minor facial lacerations requiring his lip to be stitched; Brown was also knocked out. The Okla. man required stitches for a laceration to his ear, the Daily Sun reported. Both men received medical attention.

story continues:

http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=glbt&sc2=news&sc3=&id=76401
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 06:43:34 PM
Here's the report from the Arizona Daily Sun on the above attack (it has pictures of all 4 attackers):

Anti-gay hate crime alleged

Four men are arrested in the wake of a downtown Flagstaff assault on two men attending Pride in the Pines.  By HILLARY DAVIS
Sun Staff Reporter
Tuesday, June 24, 2008

Two men were injured and four men arrested following a downtown altercation that local police are calling an anti-gay hate crime.

The assault happened early Sunday, hours after Flagstaff's annual Pride in the Pines gay pride festival in Wheeler Park. Several officers responded and quickly apprehended four men they found running in the area. Sgt. Tom Boughner from the Flagstaff Police Department said police consider the incident a hate crime because of anti-gay slurs allegedly made by the suspects. Although Flagstaff and Arizona do not have laws making bias-motivated crimes specific, separate offenses, investigators do plan to pursue available sentencing enhancements upon conviction.

According to Flagstaff police reports, the injured men were standing with a group at the corner of North San Francisco Street and East Aspen Avenue, waiting for a taxi at about 2:45 a.m. when the assaults occurred.

story continues:

http://www.azdailysun.com/articles/2008/06/24/news/20080624_front_176276.txt
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 06:48:20 PM
Four Queens thugs beat priest
BY PAUL McNAMARA, NICOLE BODE and ETHAN ROUEN
DAILY NEWS WRITERS

Wednesday, July 9th 2008, 12:54 AM

Four punks spewing hateful language at a transgender woman outside a shelter for gay and transgender young people in Queens beat up a priest who attempted to thwart their tirade, police said.

The teens started harassing Alessandra-Michelle Carver, 21, as she was dancing in front of Carmen's Place in Astoria about 10:30 p.m. on Monday.

"One of them hit me with a garbage can," she said. "Then his friends started joining in."

With the help of other shelter residents and the Rev. Louis Braxton, who runs the shelter, Carver was able to scare them off.

But minutes later, the boys came back armed with metal poles, empty paint cans, belts and a miter saw. "Father was trying to make peace with them, but then one of them hit him in the back of the head with a paint can," Carver said. "He fell to the ground, and they kept hitting him."

The other residents fended off the attackers, and when the teens finally fled, they ran past Metropolitan Transportation Authority police officers, who nabbed them and charged all four with assault as a hate crime, gang assault, weapon possession and harassment.

article continues:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/07/08/2008-07-08_four_queens_thugs_beat_priest_-1.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 07:02:42 PM
Anderson Man Beats Gay Son at Home
By Steven Jones
Web Content Coordinator
Published: July 18, 2008

ANDERSON COUNTY — On Sunday an 18-year-old man returned to his home from a gay pride parade and was assaulted by his father with a baseball bat, according to News Channel 7 coverage partner the Anderson Independent.

According to the Anderson County Sheriff’s Office, the battering took place about 1 p.m. Sunday on P Street.

During the assault, the teen’s 49-year-old father yelled, cursed, swung a bat, prayed and tried to “cast the demon of homosexuality out of him,” according to the teen’s version of events to Deputy S.C. Weymouth, the incident report states.

story continues:

http://www.wspa.com/spa/news/local/article/anderson_man_beats_gay_son_at_home/6092/
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 07:05:39 PM
Canadian soldiers jailed for Amsterdam attack
By Staff Writer, PinkNews.co.uk • October 17, 2007 - 16:44

Two Canadian soldiers stationed in Holland ahead of a deployment in Afghanistan have been convicted of beating up a gay man in Amsterdam.

Eric Wright and Ryan Dowie, both 22 at the time of the incident last May, received custodial sentences for the attack, which left their 28-year-old victim with a skull fracture and broken nose.

The soldiers convinced the court that they called their victim a "fag" and "gay" because he was a civilian wearing military-style dog tags.

story continues:

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-5783.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 07:34:51 PM
Subway Bashing Lands Gay Man in Emergency Room
Gay City News
 By: PAUL SCHINDLER
07/03/2008

A gay man returning home on the subway early Saturday evening, June 28, with his partner after a church LGBT pride picnic was harassed and beaten by a heterosexual couple after the gay men boarded at Christopher Street. On a crowded, Brooklyn-bound Seventh Avenue train making local stops, the male assailant, seeing that the victim was carrying a copy of Gay City News, said, "You people make me sick, you're disgusting," and began to pummel his face, breaking his glasses, and causing an injury below his eye that required seven stitches. The victim, who asked that his name not be published out of fear of reprisal, said the woman also clawed him with her nails.

The gay men left the train at Franklin Street, but were followed by the assailants, who continued attacking the victim on the platform. The victim said that when he asked the conductor, looking out his window from the train, for assistance, the MTA employee said simply that the train was going out of service, but offered no help.

story continues:

http://www.gaycitynews.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19829160&BRD=2729&PAG=461&dept_id=568857&rfi=6
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 07:37:29 PM
Attack alarms city’s gays
Josh Boatwright and Lisa Gillespie • jboatwright@citizen-times.com  •
published July 11, 2008 12:15 am

ASHEVILLE – A downtown robbery in which a man said his attackers used antigay slurs has some residents organizing to improve the safety of gays and lesbians on city streets.

The man told police two men punched, kicked and robbed him shortly after midnight July 6 near O. Henry Avenue and Haywood Street, according to a police report.
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The man said he fought off his attackers with a pocketknife and tried to scale a fence nearby, but they pulled him down and continued beating him while shouting vulgar slurs.

The man stabbed one of his assailants with a pocketknife before they left with his wallet, according to the report.

Asheville Police Capt. Tim Splain said it does not appear the suspects attacked the victim because he was gay.

story continues:

http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880711001
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: estefue on July 20, 2008, 08:50:44 PM
Thank you Michael for posting all this.  It's amazing how many of these episodes occur and how little we know about them.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 20, 2008, 09:14:09 PM
Thank you Michael for posting all this.  It's amazing how many of these episodes occur and how little we know about them.

Your welcome.  As someone who has had bottles and rocks thrown at him, motorcycles driven at him and a knife drawn on him I know that these things happen and the people involved don't want to talk about it.  And often they are mentioned once in the press and dropped.  Contrary to what it may seem, these are not things that people feel comfortable talking about.  And I believe that this is part of the reason that it is so easy to think this sort of thing doesn't happen.

What struck me about all this was the wide variety of cases - one guy gets attacked while out getting a pizza, some people were targeted because they seemed easy targets, some crimes (like the ones at pride events and outside of the center for gay and transgendered youth) are the direct effect of hate and one was by a family member trying to 'drive the demons out.'

What also struck me was how easy it was to find these cases - they are all over the place and all I had to do was search on 'gay bashing.' 

I tend to believe that since people don't want to talk about this - it's the crossroads between sexuality and violence, after all, that these cases are under reported, not over reported.  And the further you are from LGBT support services the more unlikely you are to report the attack.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 21, 2008, 04:59:26 AM
I tend to believe that since people don't want to talk about this - it's the crossroads between sexuality and violence, after all, that these cases are under reported, not over reported.  And the further you are from LGBT support services the more unlikely you are to report the attack.

It makes me wonder about how may times this happens that we don't know about.

I've heard reports that gay bashing is on the rise.  Perhaps it's just that people are now starting to come forward with reports.  Perhaps in the past (and still) there are a number of men (and women) who are still in the closet.  If they were to come forward with a report, they'd basically be outing themselves, so they stay quiet on it.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 21, 2008, 06:17:14 AM
I've heard reports that gay bashing is on the rise.  Perhaps it's just that people are now starting to come forward with reports.  Perhaps in the past (and still) there are a number of men (and women) who are still in the closet.  If they were to come forward with a report, they'd basically be outing themselves, so they stay quiet on it.

Here's what CUAV (my local antiviolence organization) had to say about it:

Hate crimes against LGBTs increase in 2007
By Heather Tirado Gilligan
source: Bay Area Reporter

Hate crimes against LGBTs in San Francisco increased by 7 percent last year, according to an analysis conducted by national anti-violence groups.

Nationwide, increases in violence were not all attributable to increased reporting. Michigan saw a stunning 207 percent increase in the number of hate crimes against LGBTs committed in 2007. NCAVP attributes this dramatic upsurge in hate crimes to a three-year-long campaign by the attorney general's office to end domestic partner benefits.

"In Michigan and elsewhere in the U.S., these highly visible attacks on LGBT communities reinforce the idea that it is acceptable to target LGBT persons with violence," the report states. "There is frequently a corresponding surge in anti-LGBT incidents of violence and crime as these campaigns play out in communities and in the national and local media."

Hate crimes increased 24 percent nationally. Bias-motivated murders doubled between 2006 (10) and 2007 (21). Rapes committed as hate crimes increased by 61 percent nationwide.

Hate crimes in the Midwest increased significantly. In addition to the Michigan increase, Minnesota saw a jump of 135 percent, while Kansas City saw an increase of 142 percent, according to the report.

Reported hate crimes dropped in New York City (14 percent decrease) and Colorado (27 percent decrease), the report stated.

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http://www.cuav.org/article/5
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on July 21, 2008, 08:21:25 AM
The murder of an openly gay man, Ahmet Yildiz, in Turkey has prompted people to wonder if it was an "honour" killing. His family who disapproved of his open homosexuality have not claimed his remains and it seems do not want to bury him. This refusal is the same as the attitudes of families to women murdered by relatives to cleanse the family "honour".

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/was-ahmet-yildiz-the-victim-of-turkeys-first-gay-honour-killing-871822.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/was-ahmet-yildiz-the-victim-of-turkeys-first-gay-honour-killing-871822.html)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dback on July 22, 2008, 10:10:15 AM
I saw that on towleroad.  He had a sweet face.  Very sad.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on July 28, 2008, 09:30:11 AM
Police: Man shot churchgoers over liberal views

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KNOXVILLE, Tenn. - Knoxville's police chief says the man accused of a shooting that killed two people at a Tennessee church targeted the congregation because of its liberal social stance.

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The church is known for advocating women's and gay rights and founding an American Civil Liberties Union chapter.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080728/ap_on_re_us/church_shooting (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080728/ap_on_re_us/church_shooting)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on July 28, 2008, 08:12:06 PM
A Backdrop of Brutality

By Wayne Besen, columnist, 365gay.com


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Sporting a fog machine for its smoke and mirrors routine and an extravagant stage that would make The Rolling Stones blush, the “ex-gay” group Exodus International held its glitzy annual conference in Asheville, North Carolina.

I was in town all week to partner with regional and state organizations to oppose the meeting and its dizzying array of distortions.

A dark cloud hovered over the Exodus event, with violent hate crimes unsettling the local GLBT community. At the very moment ex-gay televangelists were railing against homosexuals in the foothills, news broke of an 18-year old boy in Anderson, South Carolina whose father, “yelled, cursed, swung a baseball bat, prayed and tried to cast the demon of homosexuality out of him.”

In nearby Greenville, South Carolina, Stephen Moller, an anti-gay thug who murdered 20-year-old Sean William Kennedy outside a gay bar, just learned that he would spend approximately 10 months in jail for his ferocious crime. In this gross miscarriage of justice, the message was sent that murdering gay people was tacitly acceptable, if not encouraged. While in town, I spoke to Sean’s grieving mother, Elke Kennedy, who rightfully called the sentence, “a joke and a slap on the wrist.” Meanwhile, on the opening day of the Exodus conference, an anti-bullying bill was stalled in the North Carolina legislature.


http://www.365gay.com/features/besen-a-backdrop-of-brutality/ (http://www.365gay.com/features/besen-a-backdrop-of-brutality/)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dback on July 29, 2008, 09:54:43 AM
Unfortunately, I think that bit about the guy whose dad beat him with the baseball bat turned out to be a hoax.  There's gotta be some kind of serious psychological damage going on when gay people PRETEND to be victims of bashing, harassment, etc. when so many gay people really are.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 29, 2008, 01:43:09 PM
Unfortunately, I think that bit about the guy whose dad beat him with the baseball bat turned out to be a hoax.  There's gotta be some kind of serious psychological damage going on when gay people PRETEND to be victims of bashing, harassment, etc. when so many gay people really are.

You're right - I went and found this followup:

Gay Teen Arrested for Filing False Hate Crime Report
By 365gay Newscenter Staff
07.24.2008 5:19pm EDT
(Anderson County, S.C.) An 18-year-old, who had told police he was beaten by his father after attending a gay pride parade, was charged Thursday with filing a false police report.

Dwight Clark Ables told police last week that his father yelled, swung the bat and tried to “cast the demon of homosexuality out of him.”

He claimed his 49-year-old father prayed as he swung the bat and then threw him out of the house. He also said that several days later, when the teen returned home to pick up his clothes, he was punched.

In the report he filed with police, the teen said that his father “has a problem with him being gay and that is why he hit him with the baseball bat.”

Investigators said Thursday they had found no evidence to support any of the allegations.

Ables is being held in a detention center awaiting trial

http://www.365gay.com/news/gay-teen-arrested/

It takes a real special sort to do this while people are being shot in churches.  What a jerk.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on July 29, 2008, 02:29:58 PM


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Police: Man Shot Churchgoers Over Liberal Views And Gay Inclusion
An out-of-work truck driver accused of opening fire at a Unitarian church, killing two people, left behind a note suggesting that he targeted the congregation out of hatred for its liberal policies, including its acceptance of gays, authorities said Monday.

A four-page letter found in Jim D. Adkisson's small SUV indicated he intentionally targeted the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church because, the police chief said, ''he hated the liberal movement'' and was upset with ''liberals in general as well as gays.''



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Owen said authorities believe the suspect had gone to the Unitarian church because of ''some publicity in the recent past regarding its liberal stance on things.''

Owen did not identify the publicity, but the Rev. Chris Buice, the church's pastor, is a frequent contributor to the Knoxville newspaper.

''In the midst of political and religious controversy, I choose to love my neighbors as myself,'' Buice wrote in an op-ed piece published in March. ''Ultimately, I believe that tolerance, compassion and respect are the qualities we need to keep Knoxville and East Tennessee beautiful.''


http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid58488.asp (http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid58488.asp)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on July 31, 2008, 03:41:21 PM


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Colorado Man Charged With Murdering A Transgender Woman
A Colorado man is accused of fatally battering a sex partner with a fire extinguisher after discovering that his companion was a transgender woman.

Allen Ray Andrade, 31, faces several charges, including second-degree murder in the death of Justin Zapata, 20, who was known as Angie Zapata. The victim's bloodied, battered body was discovered in her apartment by her sister on July 17.

Weld County District Attorney Ken Buck said Wednesday that he is considering filing first-degree murder charges and may prosecute the death as a hate crime.

Andrade was arrested in the Denver suburb of Thornton, where he lives. Police responding to a noise complaint found him in Zapata's 2003 PT Cruiser, which had been missing.

Andrade told investigators that he met Zapata through MocoSpace, a social network designed primarily for cell phone users, according to an arrest affidavit released by Greeley police. The two met July 15 and spent the day together.

Andrade told investigators that Zapata performed oral sex on him but wouldn't let him touch her, according to the affidavit.

He said he also spent the night at Zapata's apartment, but in separate beds. The next day, Zapata left Andrade alone in her apartment, and Andrade noticed several photographs that led him to question Zapata's gender.

Andrade confronted Zapata when she got back. He grabbed Zapata's crotch area, felt male genitalia and became angry, the affidavit says. He told investigators that he took a fire extinguisher off a shelf, struck Zapata twice in the head and thought he ''killed it.''

''It's disgusting,'' Greeley Police Chief Jerry Garner said of Andrade's reference to Zapata. ''It's a horrible thing to say.''


http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid58619.asp (http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid58619.asp)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 31, 2008, 04:43:54 PM
Man stabbed leaving leather party
by Matthew S. Bajko
Bay Area Reporter
07/31/2008


A reveler at the official dance party for last weekend's Up Your Alley fair was allegedly robbed and stabbed repeatedly by a group of assailants while he was trying to hail a cab early Sunday morning. San Francisco police believe the attack may have been a hate crime and are seeking the public's help in identifying the suspects.

The victim, a gay man who lives near Sacramento, declined an interview request from the Bay Area Reporter. Police, who declined to release his name, describe him as in his early 30s, about 6 feet 3 inches tall and medium build. He was not dressed in leather gear, and instead the victim had on blue jeans and a green camouflage patterned T-shirt.

According to police, the victim had just left the Bay of Pigs party held at the New York Studio space at 535 York Street in the inner Mission around 3:30 a.m. July 27 and was walking along Mariposa Street when three men, believed to be Asian, assaulted him while three women, also believed to be Asian, watched.

"They punched him; they stabbed him; and they left him for dead," said San Francisco police Inspector Brian Danker.

The suspects stole the victim's wallet, and Danker said he believes they targeted him due to his sexual orientation.

"I do think it is a hate crime. He didn't need to be beaten or stabbed the way he was. No one deserves that," said Danker. "The brutality of the attack is a hate crime; that is my story and I am sticking to it."

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http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=3200
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 06, 2008, 07:56:52 PM
Outrage Over Fatal Gay Bashing in Liverpool

by Kilian Melloy   EDGE Contributor   Tuesday Aug 5, 2008


One teenager is dead and three others have been charged in connection with a lethal, allegedly anti-gay attack in Liverpool, England.

The Liverpool Daily Post carried an account of how Michael Causer, a well-liked 18-year-old, was attacked on the morning of July 25.

A week later, on Aug. 2, Causer died in the hospital. Authorities have labeled the incident a "homophobic hate crime," according to the Liverpool Daily Post.

Two alleged assailants, James O’Connor, 19, and Gavin Alker, 18, were arrested and charged with grievous bodily harm; upon Causer’s death, officials began to look into pursuing more serious charges against the young men.

The article quoted Inspector Mike Jarman, "We will now re-approach the Crown Prosecution Service with a view to upgrading the charges on three men who were facing grievous bodily harm charges."


http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=glbt&sc2=news&sc3=&id=78442
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on August 07, 2008, 12:58:16 AM
American Teen

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A brutally honest look at how five kids survive their senior year at a large Indiana high school, American Teen will resonate strongly for queer viewers, who will get an unnerving glimpse of how an anti-gay hate crime and a Brokeback Mountain DVD play out in the hinterlands. Nanette Burstein gives us five sharply etched personalities: the ruthless blonde beauty queen, the classic jock trying to escape the risible role model of an Elvis-impersonator dad, the athlete who flirts with being just a tad unconventional, the school-band nerd battling acne and a propensity to sabotage any promising social situation, and the manic/depressive brunette who steals our hearts with her vulnerability and her longing to come to San Francisco to become, what else, a filmmaker.


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The lantern-jawed Colin suffers bad advice from his dad, who urges him to ball-hog his way to a college basketball scholarship. Pretty-boy jock Mitch dates Hannah, carving out a little niche of semi-independence from Megan's blonde justice. We get a glimpse of homophobia without homosexuals as Mitch pulls his mates up short with the admission that he and Hannah watched Brokeback Mountain. Then there's the funny/sad saga of Jake, the self-professed "band nerd" who is so painfully out of social synch that he lines up dates three weeks in advance. When he finally gets a girl to a dance, he gets cold feet and ends up leaving the party alone and humiliated.


http://www.ebar.com/arts/art_article.php?sec=film&article=534 (http://www.ebar.com/arts/art_article.php?sec=film&article=534)

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on August 07, 2008, 11:45:22 PM
Unitarian pastor says hate is a national problem
by Heather Tirado Gilligan
8/07/2008

A survivor of the recent church shooting in Knoxville, Tennessee, the Reverend Gordon Gibson, doesn't blame the conservative cultural mores of the South for the hate-motivated rampage at his church last month.

Instead, citing reports that the alleged gunman had annotated copies of books by conservative pundits Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity, he blames Fox News, where both have television shows.

Gibson, a longtime Unitarian church member and pastor, understands the tragedy as one of national, not local, significance. The alleged shooter, he said, tapped into a national intolerance broadcast on the popular news programs as an outlet for his personal frustrations. 

The Unitarian Universalist Church teaches a decidedly progressive theology. The Knoxville church welcomes LGBTs and the local PFLAG chapter meets there.

But tragedy struck when two people were killed and seven were injured when Jim Adkisson, 58, allegedly opened fire on the Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville on Sunday, July 27. After his arrest, Adkisson led investigators to a four-page letter in his car that outlined his hatred of liberals and singled out gays in particular, the Knoxville News Sentinel reported. 

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http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=3222
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 09, 2008, 09:41:42 PM
35W bridge workers accused in anti-gay assault

By Andy Birkey , Minnesota Independent  August 09, 2008


A Minneapolis man walking downtown Tuesday evening was assaulted by men whom witnesses say were part of the 35W bridge construction crew. While the victim was straight, he was attacked because the assailant thought he was gay.

Karl Aarsheim, 32, left the Minneapolis Eagle, a Washington Avenue gay bar, where he and his wife were meeting a friend for drinks Tuesday evening. On his walk home at around 11:30 p.m., several men in orange construction vests approached him. One of the men asked, “Are you a faggot?” Aarsheim replied, “No. And so what if I am?”

One of the men then assaulted Aarsheim. He was kicked in the head and neck, leaving swelling and bruising, and needed a number of stitches near his eye. The attacker was was detained by a group of young men on bicycles who happened by the scene.

http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/article/2008/08/08/35w-bridge-workers-accused-anti-gay-assault.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on August 09, 2008, 11:56:24 PM
the moral of the story:

you don't have to be gay to be gay bashed...
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on August 10, 2008, 11:04:31 AM
the moral of the story:

you don't have to be gay to be gay bashed...

This is entirely true.  We have had episodes in San Francisco where heterosexuals have been killed simply for being in the wrong neighborhood and being perceived as gay (one of Folsom street a few years ago).
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on August 11, 2008, 08:04:09 PM
Here's one of the comments on that MSP story:

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I see the State of Minnesota is definitely concerned about gay-bashing. The assailant was levied a whole $40 for bail. That’s right, for less than the price of dinner for two, you can post bail for gay-bashing in Minnesota. I wonder if Minneosta would charge more (or less) for physically attacking someone else based on their race, ethnicity, religion or some other perceived characteristic? This sends a strong message to any would-be attackers that Minnesota will not tolerate hate crimes unless you’ve got $40…then it’s kinda OK. The only “icing on the cake” would be having Gov. Pawlenty issue a full pardon and name Otto Marin’s birthday as “Traditional Values Day” in Minnesota. Truly sad.
http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/article/2008/08/08/35w-bridge-workers-accused-anti-gay-assault.html&print=1 (http://www.tcdailyplanet.net/article/2008/08/08/35w-bridge-workers-accused-anti-gay-assault.html&print=1)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on August 21, 2008, 02:02:33 AM
GANG BANGER KILLED FOR SENDING "GAY" TEXT & NU    

VIDEO: http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=28EP5p2h- lM (http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=28EP5p2h- lM)


Teenage gang members in Baltimore, are thought to have killed one of their own after finding 'gay' text messages on their victim's phone -- "he had to go" say the two teenage gang members now charged with murder.

Autopsy reports indicate that Steven Parrish, a former member of Bloods gang in Randallstown, Baltimore, died with over 50 superficial knife wounds on his body, and one stab wound to the chest that ended his life. Before leaving the scene, fellow gang members stomped on Parrish's neck, and left a red bandana covering his face.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on September 11, 2008, 02:42:58 PM
One year later: Singh suspect remains at large
by Dan Aiello
Bay Area Reporter
9/11/2008

It's been just over a year since Satendar Singh was brutally attacked at a recreation area near Sacramento, allegedly by Russian immigrants who perceived him to be gay. But without the inclusion of sexual orientation in the federal hate crimes law the man authorities believe delivered the fatal blow remains a fugitive from justice.

Singh, a 26-year-old worker at the AT&T call center in Sacramento, was attacked while picnicking at Lake Natoma with friends in July 2007. His attackers, authorities say, were Russian and Slavic immigrants believed to have ties to Sacramento's virulently anti-gay, Slavic evangelical movement. Singh was first verbally then physically assaulted because the perpetrators perceived him to be gay, according to the Sacramento Sheriff's Department's arrest report. He died four days later at a local hospital, having never regained consciousness.

One of those arrested, Alexsander Schevchenko, 22, was sentenced to 150 days in county jail after being found guilty on two misdemeanor charges. But Andrey Vusik, 30, identified as the man who threw the fatal punch, fled the country following Singh's death.

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http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=3309
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: seahorsedan on September 11, 2008, 10:17:22 PM
This is the link to the recent video that accompanies the Satendar Singh Murder story.  I thought you might want to see it.  Thanks, Dan

Remember Satendar Singh Video - No on Prop 8 Link (Click Here) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wYSSUNuIl0)

(http://ebar.com//images/articles/02_08_vusik_37_MED.jpg)

Link to More Information about the Anti-Gay Slavic Movement in Sacramento (Click Here) (http://www.up4now.com/blogs_full.php?id=283)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on September 11, 2008, 10:48:42 PM
This is the link to the recent video that accompanies the Satendar Singh Murder story.  I thought you might want to see it.  Thanks, Dan

Remember Satendar Singh Video - No on Prop 8 Link (Click Here) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wYSSUNuIl0)

(http://ebar.com//images/articles/02_08_vusik_37_MED.jpg)

Link to More Information about the Anti-Gay Slavic Movement in Sacramento (Click Here) (http://www.up4now.com/blogs_full.php?id=283)


Thank you SO much for the information seahorsedan.  Great to see you here.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: seahorsedan on September 12, 2008, 12:48:37 AM
Thanks for having me.  I hope you enjoy the video - it was a labor of love.  Please indulge me sharing the written narrative for it:

(http://ebar.com//images/articles/02_08_vusik_37_LRG.jpg)
help capture this man, armed and dangerous - a fugitive from justice.  Andrey Vusik, Singh's killer.

It was just six years ago that Harvard University's Civil Rights Project called Sacramento 'America's Most Integrated City' and 'Most tolerant of diversity.' But then a wave of slavic evangelists flooded into the Capital City's suburbs and brought with them a virus of hatred and homophobia from abroad, foreign to a gentle city.

It caught the residents of Sacramento by surprise.

Violent protests by Russian-language immigrants began at lgbt community events in 2006, then Satendar Singh, a Fijian-born immigrant, was attacked and killed by Russian evangelical immigrants because they believed him to be gay.

These evangelical and pentacostal extremists claim to love God, but show no signs of honoring God's commandment, "Thou Shalt Not Kill." I have spoken with many of these protestors and they are quick to defend Singh's killers as justified and never once did they show remorse for the death of Satendar. As if there is any justification for killing a man. And of course they can claim any outrageous deed they want, for they have killed Satendar and he cannot defend himself. But woe to them, for they've killed the one man who could confirm their unbelievable story.

There are few people who more soundly deny the faith found in scripture than these evangelists, profoundly noting the hypocrisy in their praise of Jesus while ignoring his words of compassion and love. It is shameful. Perhaps one day they can find their way back into God's loving embrace. We can all pray for their salvation. They harm their own children by teaching them only to hate - a trait which will prevent them from becoming contributing members of this country's secular society.

In case you are wondering - the number of times Jesus condemned homosexuality in the bible? Zero. The number of times he condemned hypocrites? 16. Jesus proclaimed with compassion, "That which you do unto these, the least of my children, you do unto me."

This video marks the one year anniversary of the death of Satendar Singh at the hands of evangelical immigrants. It is meant to keep this violent act in our consciousness until all those involved are brought to justice. It was more than just Andrey Vusik who was involved. Vusik and Shevchenko's friends at Lake Natoma that day, they too MUST face justice. Please remind District Attorney Jan Scully that more must be done to prosecute these criminals.

Help capture Andrey Vusik - Singh's killer. He is a fugitive from justice most likely aided in flight by the evangelical community from which he came.

The idea for this video began with one of the signs held up by a young protestor that read: "Woe to them who call evil good and good evil." It struck me that the lgbt community's response to the protestors includes that very same quote from scripture (Isaiah 5:20).

The lyrics of the song, and the pictures, objectively taken, trust the viewer/listener to draw his or her own conclusion. - Thanks for watching and please remember in your prayers Satendar Singh, Matthew Shepard and all gay, lesbian and transgendered victims of violence spawned and ignited by the kind of ignorance and fanaticism shown here. Sacramento is a beautiful, historic capital city and the place I call home. It is home to many good people - too many for the actions of these few to have any lasting effect. Song credit: "Hallelujah!" by lesbian singer K.D. Lang.

Note: Scripture which supports loving all of God's children: Luke 6:31: "And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise." Galatians 5:14 "For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."; "All are the sons and daughters of God, good people all, Brothers and Sisters, since created by One Father. No rooted difference is there between them." (From Hindu scripture, since Singh was Hindu in this secular, not solely christian, country); "Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? Why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother?" (Judiasm, Malachi 2:10); Matthew 7:12, Luke 6:31: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, for this is the law and the prophets."

The murders of Satendar Singh and Matthew Shepard are the same issue as Proposition 8. It's a matter of love versus hate. Hate killed Satendar. Hate killed Matthew. And hate spawned Proposition 8. It is about hate and love. No more and no less.

To read more about the search for Fugitive Killer Andrey Vusik, read Bay Area Reporter article by Dan Aiello: http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?...

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Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 12, 2008, 04:02:18 AM
Welcome to the Dave Cullen Forum, Dan!

and thanks for your participation in this thread!

Chuck
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on September 12, 2008, 04:35:03 AM
A homophobic defence
By Nina Funnell - posted Monday, 8 September 2008   

An article on the Homophobic Advance Defence. It was inspired by the case of of A Sydney youth who was acquitted by the jury of murdering a man who he stabbed to death in a public toilet for making a sexual advance to him. The verdict was manslaughter.

The article says in part,

"The particular legal defence employed in this case is called the Homosexual Advance Defence (or the HAD). Surfacing in Australian criminal jurisdictions in the early 1990s, the basic premise of the HAD is that if a homosexual man makes an unwanted sexual advance towards a straight man, he is “provoking” that man. So, should a straight man respond by killing that homosexual man, the HAD can be engaged to have the charges reduced from murder to manslaughter.

"As a sexual assault survivor and victim’s rights campaigner, it’s important for me to stress that all people should have the right to defend themselves against unwanted sexual advances - but within reason. And this is precisely why we have self-defence laws.

"The difference between self-defence laws and the HAD are significant. For starters, self-defence laws state that whenever possible, a victim should retreat and avoid conflict. If there is no other option the victim is entitled to use force, but “no more force than is necessary”. Violently stabbing a person to death for making a sexuality judgment error or an unwanted advance is not considered an act of self-defence, particularly if there was opportunity to run.

"More importantly, self-defence laws are designed to protect the rights of victims who have responded with force to threats of physical or sexual violence, not so-called threats posed by a person’s sexual orientation.

"And this is the problem with the HAD. It confuses an actual sexual threat with a “threat” posed by a person’s sexuality or sexual orientation. Moreover, by shifting responsibility off the perpetrator and onto the victim who, in some cases has done no more than touch the offender’s knee, the HAD effectively excuses homophobic violence.

"As a woman I’m also curious to know why our courts have no difficulty recognising unwanted sexual advances made towards straight men as inappropriate, uncomfortable and threatening (to the point where murder is considered a semi-appropriate response). However, when heterosexual men make equally unwanted sexual advances towards women, not only do the courts often have difficulty recognising those advances as threatening and inappropriate, but historically the courts have tended to turn the problem back on women by demanding to know what they were wearing and whether or not they were “asking for it”.

...

"Why exactly, do our courts understand that sexual advances can be intimidating, threatening and abusive, but only if the victim happens to be a straight man?"

...

"While attitudes towards homophobic violence seem to be slowly changing, our laws are still in need of massive reform. Just as we would not excuse the actions of a woman who violently killed a man for making a pass at her, heterosexual men should not be allowed to cower behind HAD as a defence for what may really be homophobic violence."


http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=7863&page=0 (http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=7863&page=0)

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on September 12, 2008, 05:28:41 AM
would that logic held sway... :(
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jim ... on September 12, 2008, 05:59:16 AM
Welcome to the Dave Cullen Forum, Dan!

and thanks for your participation in this thread!

Chuck

I'll second that welcome! .... we'll look forward to reading more of your posts!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dback on September 12, 2008, 12:07:43 PM
The Portland, Oregon area has seen a noticable upswing in Russian/Slavik immigrants over the past 15 years or so.  What's irritating is how many of them were persecuted for their religious or political beliefs in Russia or the U.S.S.R., but when they get here they join Christian evangelical churches, and sure enough, they promptly start discminating against "immorals" like the gays.  The religous right in the state is now heavily relying on these Russian evangelicals to help them repeal our civil union laws that we finally passed this year.  Sad how little people learn.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on September 14, 2008, 03:58:03 AM

To read more about the search for Fugitive Killer Andrey Vusik, read Bay Area Reporter article by Dan Aiello: http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?...


dan, thanks for making the timely and moving, "remember satendar singh" video, and for posting it in the thread.

i almost wish that the killer never comes back to the states, but another part wants him behind bars for his crimes.

also, i fixed the link to the B.A.R. article:   http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=3309


Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on September 19, 2008, 01:21:36 PM
its sh*t like this that drives me crazy...

http://www.savethis.clickability.com/st/saveThisApp?clickMap=link&webPadID=K236883198
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authorities say the suspect thought the victim was gay, which family members of the victim say is not true. Now he's recovering from serious injuries while a classmate faces serious charges.

cuz if he WERE he would deserve to be beaten to death in his own home...


arrgh arrgh arrggghhhhhaaaaa
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on September 23, 2008, 02:25:50 AM
Two arrested in attack on Serbian gay event
Mon Sep 22, 8:05 pm ET

SUMMARY: Masked assailants beat up participants in a Belgrade gay gathering Friday, including a U.S. citizen who sustained a concussion and a broken arm.

The Serbian government has condemned a nationalist attack on gay activists in which three people were injured, including a U.S. citizen.

A government statement says that "increasing organized attacks" on minority groups show that the state must act to punish, but also to prevent such incidents.

The government statement was issued Monday, three days after a group of masked assailants beat up participants in the "Queer Festival," a gay gathering in a cultural center in downtown Belgrade.

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http://news.yahoo.com/story//po/20080923/co_po/twoarrestedinattackonserbiangayevent
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on September 23, 2008, 02:28:06 AM
Man attacked near gay bar dies
Police say evidence lacking for hate crime
By LOU CHIBBARO JR, Washington Blade | Sep 18, 10:44 AM

D.C. police said robbery rather than anti-gay bias appears to be the motive in the fatal attack on Sept. 7 against a gay Maryland man who died Wednesday, 10 days after he and a friend were jumped by four unidentified male suspects near D.C. gay club BeBar.

Tony Randolph Hunter, 37, of Clinton, Md., was pronounced dead at Howard University Hospital at 4:14 p.m. Wednesday, police said. He had been in the hospital in critical condition since police found him unconscious about 11:30 p.m. on Sunday, Sept. 7, near Eighth and N Streets, N.W., about a block from BeBar.

“We have no indication right now that there was a motive of a hate crime,” said Insp. Rodney Parks, who heads the police homicide branch. “We have no indication right now that it’s anything more than a robbery.”

Parks said homicide investigators working on the case would pursue any additional information that might point to a motive of anti-gay bias.

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http://www.washblade.com/thelatest/thelatest.cfm?blog_id=21100
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 23, 2008, 05:11:59 AM
The government statement was issued Monday, three days after a group of masked assailants beat up participants in the "Queer Festival," a gay gathering in a cultural center in downtown Belgrade.

Oh, so they only waited three days to issue a statement?  How nice of them.  ::)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on September 23, 2008, 10:28:17 AM
Oh, so they only waited three days to issue a statement?  How nice of them.  ::)

Hey, at least the Orthodox Church didn't run out to bless the street because we were walking on it [that we know of, at least].  A step up from the Volga boat tour in Russia where they did this, eh?
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 23, 2008, 04:54:45 PM
Oh god, I remember that.   ::)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on September 30, 2008, 12:53:54 AM
Man Pleads Guilty In Hate Crime Beating
Trial For 2 Other Men Starts Tuesday

POSTED: 5:09 pm EDT September 29, 2008
UPDATED: 5:22 pm EDT September 29, 2008

BOSTON -- A Lowell man pleaded guilty to assaulting a man because of his sexual orientation, Middlesex District Attorney Gerry Leone's office said Monday.

Jonathan Artis, 20, pleaded guilty to charges of assault and battery for purpose of intimidation due to sexual orientation and civil rights violation. He was sentenced to two years probation with conditions that he attend a diversity awareness program and complete 50 hours of community service.

Jules Ruggs, 20, and Jeffrey Buchannan, 20, the other two defendants charged in connection with the incident, are both scheduled for trial beginning Tuesday in Lowell Superior Court.

Ruggs and Buchannan are charged with violation of constitutional rights with bodily injury, assault and battery for purpose of intimidation due to sexual orientation causing bodily injury, and assault and battery.

According to authorities, the victim was walking by himself to his home from a nightclub in downtown Lowell at approximately 3 a.m. on June 2. After he crossed the Bridge Street Bridge and proceeded to cross Lakeview Avenue, he heard someone from behind him yell an epithet regarding his sexual orientation, Leone's office said.

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http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/17584194/detail.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 30, 2008, 05:17:14 AM
Jonathan Artis, 20, pleaded guilty to charges of assault and battery for purpose of intimidation due to sexual orientation and civil rights violation. He was sentenced to two years probation with conditions that he attend a diversity awareness program and complete 50 hours of community service.

two years probration.  Lovely.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on October 07, 2008, 03:40:36 PM
Ten years ago today

Remembering Matthew

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On Wednesday, October 7, 1998, Matthew Shepard was found tied to a fence on the Wyoming prairie, barely alive, his skull fractured and his brain stem crushed. Comatose, he was taken first to a Laramie hospital, then to a better-equipped one in Fort Collins, Colo., where he died five days later. We may never know what his killers, Aaron McKinney and Russell Henderson, intended to do when they first approached Shepard at Laramie’s Fireside Lounge. We only know that, whatever their intention, they ended up murdering him.

Almost instantly, his death became a flash point in this country’s reckoning with gay people, and the cute, clean-cut 21-year-old became a symbol of the ravages of intolerance. The tragedy sparked vigils around the world and led to federal hate-crimes legislation that bears Shepard’s name, currently pending in Congress. (Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama has promised to sign the bill if elected.)

Shepard’s impact can also be felt in the work of the Matthew Shepard Foundation, headed by his mother, Judy, whom we spoke with for the following oral history -- along with friends and Laramie residents; the police chief who oversaw the investigation into the murder; and artists influenced by that tumultuous week.


more...

http://advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid62771.asp (http://advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid62771.asp)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: fritzkep on October 07, 2008, 04:22:06 PM
Thank you, John, for the remembrance.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on October 08, 2008, 01:40:09 AM
Extracts from the Remembering Matthew report

DAVE O’MALLEY, then–Laramie police chief

Prior to this case I wasn’t hugely homophobic, but I was mean-spirited. I bought into the jokes and the myths and stereotypes of the gay community. Because of what happened, I was forced to interact with that community. Quite frankly, I started losing my ignorance. Did I reevaluate my beliefs in that first week? In the old country we’d call that a no-shitter. It didn’t take very long at all for me to realize that I was dead wrong.


To me, every crime was a hate crime. But I saw the difference with what happened to Matt. We had kids moving out of Laramie, transferring to other colleges. There was a huge amount of terror and fear -- I hadn’t seen that before. There are people killed during liquor store robberies every day in this country, but I never think twice about going to the liquor store. It’s a different kind of a motivation and a different kind of impact. I’ve now been to Washington to speak about hate-crimes legislation on seven occasions. It’s something I believe in, and I’m going to keep working at it. It’s been 10 years, but I fully believe that if this election goes the way I believe it’s going to go, the Matthew Shepard Act will be a reality in the next 12 months.


Bless Dave O'Malley!

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Marz on October 08, 2008, 08:09:49 AM
Ten years ago today

Remembering Matthew

Quote
On Wednesday, October 7, 1998, Matthew Shepard was found tied to a fence on the Wyoming prairie, barely alive, his skull fractured and his brain stem crushed. Comatose, he was taken first to a Laramie hospital, then to a better-equipped one in Fort Collins, Colo., where he died five days later. We may never know what his killers, Aaron McKinney and Russell Henderson, intended to do when they first approached Shepard at Laramie’s Fireside Lounge. We only know that, whatever their intention, they ended up murdering him.

Almost instantly, his death became a flash point in this country’s reckoning with gay people, and the cute, clean-cut 21-year-old became a symbol of the ravages of intolerance. The tragedy sparked vigils around the world and led to federal hate-crimes legislation that bears Shepard’s name, currently pending in Congress. (Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama has promised to sign the bill if elected.)

Shepard’s impact can also be felt in the work of the Matthew Shepard Foundation, headed by his mother, Judy, whom we spoke with for the following oral history -- along with friends and Laramie residents; the police chief who oversaw the investigation into the murder; and artists influenced by that tumultuous week.


more...

http://advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid62771.asp (http://advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid62771.asp)


that was 10 years ago, wow thats gone quick
rest in peace matthew
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on October 08, 2008, 07:00:17 PM
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj282/SanFranciscoJohn/SeanKennedy.jpg)

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Elke Kennedy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOHN6bNLCZ0) is a brave woman - someone who has turned unbearable grief into heartwarming action.  She’s a mother who sadly, like too many others, has lost a child to a hate crime.

In the Spring of 2007, her 20-year old son, Sean, was fatally attacked in Greenville, South Carolina because he was openly gay.

Describing the attack on her son, Elke wrote (http://www.seanslastwish.org/new_whathappened.html):

On May 16, 2007, at about 3:45 am, Sean was leaving a bar in Greenville when a car pulled up beside him, a young man got out of the car, came around the car approached my son and called him f**got and then punched him so hard that it broke his face bones, he fell back and hit the asphalt.  This resulted in his brain to be separated from his brain stem and ricochet in his head.  Sean never had a chance.  Sean’s killer got back into the car and left my son dying there.  A little later he left a message on one of the girl’s phone, who knew Sean saying: “You tell your f**got friend that when he wakes up he owes me $500 for my broken hand”.

Charleston, South Carolina’s, The Post and Courier reported on the attack (http://www.charleston.net/news/2007/may/27/mom_urges_hate_crime_law_sc/):
At 4:55 a.m. on May 16, Elke Kennedy’s telephone rang. It was someone at the hospital urging her to get to the emergency room as soon as possible. When she arrived, she found her son on life support. At 11:20 that night, Sean Kennedy was pronounced brain-dead.
‘Until then, we were clinging on,’ Elke Kennedy said.

Since her tragic loss Elke has become a tireless advocate for LGBT rights, specifically around hate crimes legislation.
 
She founded a non-profit in memory of her son called Sean’s Last Wish Foundation (http://www.seanslastwish.org/) and has traveled across the country sharing her story and helping people understand the importance of hate-crime protections for LGBT people in her own state of South Carolina and at the national level.

http://glaadblog.org/index.php/2008/10/07/share-your-story-seans-last-wish-foundations-elke-kennedy/ (http://glaadblog.org/index.php/2008/10/07/share-your-story-seans-last-wish-foundations-elke-kennedy/)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on October 08, 2008, 07:00:54 PM
Murder of Transgender Woman Goes Unmarked in Media

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Whether it was writing poetry or organizing in her community, Nakhia Williams was an active and vocal member of her hometown of Louisville KY. Williams, known as Nikki to her friends, proudly attended the 2005 Transsistahs-Transbrothas Conference (http://www.tgcrossroads.org/resources/details.asp?state=KY&id=828) where she met with other transgender people of African descent. Through her friendly attitude and genuine love of people, Williams touched many lives.



 
On August 20th, a few days shy of her 30th birthday, however, Williams was brutally murdered by a number of men outside her Louisville, KY apartment.
 
She died on August 30th.
 
Williams’ death prompted two disrespectful and inaccurate reports from FOX affiliate WDRB (http://www.fox41.com/Global/story.asp?S=8953820) and CBS affiliate WLKY (http://www.wlky.com/news/17393379/detail.html).   Kentucky Fairness Alliance (http://www.kentuckyfairness.org/) (KFA) members and GLAAD staff reached out to both stations multiple times offering feedback and recommendations on accurate coverage of transgender people. Neither station agreed to accurately reflect Williams’ identity or honor her life.
 
Over a month later, no other media outlets have covered her murder or followed up on any outcomes of the ongoing police investigations.
 
As we observe the 10 year remembrance of Matthew Shepard’s tragic murder, the silence the media has taken around Williams’ death is troubling. While it is still not clear if her death was the result of a bias-motivated crime, what is clear is that media outlets across the country missed the mark by failing to investigate her murder.

http://glaadblog.org/index.php/2008/10/07/murder-of-transgender-woman-goes-unmarked-in-media/ (http://glaadblog.org/index.php/2008/10/07/murder-of-transgender-woman-goes-unmarked-in-media/)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on October 08, 2008, 07:33:20 PM
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on October 08, 2008, 07:53:53 PM
THE LARAMIE PROJECT - 10 YEARS LATER

(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj282/SanFranciscoJohn/scan20041107_114756.jpg)

PROJECT DESCRIPTION

On October 6th of 1998 Matthew Shepard was beaten and left to die tie to a fence in the outskirts of Laramie, Wyoming. He died 6 days later. His torture and murder became a watershed historical moment in America that highlighted many of the fault lines in our culture..

A month after the murder the members of Tectonic Theater Project traveled to Laramie and conducted interviews with the people of the town. From these interviews they wrote the play The Laramie Project, which they later made into a movie for HBO. The piece has been seen by more than 30 million people around the country.

Now, 10 years later, the members of Tectonic Theater Project will return to Laramie to find out what has happened over the last 10 years. Has Matthew's murder had a lasting impact on that community? How has the town changed as a result of this event? What does life in Laramie tell us about life in America 10 years later?

These are a few of the questions that the members of Tectonic Theater Project will ask as they return to Laramie.

From the interviews conducted, they will write an article with their findings that they hope to publish in the New York Times as well as other major national papers. They will also write an Epilogue for the play to be added to the published version of the script.

http://laramieblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/welcome-to-laramie-blog.html (http://laramieblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/welcome-to-laramie-blog.html)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on October 09, 2008, 02:12:35 AM
Gay teen was goaded into suicide by jeering mob
By Tony Grew • October 7, 2008 - 16:35

A 17 year old boy who threw himself off the roof of a shopping centre in Derby last week as some of the crowd gathered to watch goaded him to jump was gay.

In a three hour standoff in the city centre, Shaun Dykes spoke at length to police officers last Saturday before plunging 60ft to his death.

Eyewitness Alasdair Kay told the BBC's Today programme: "I was shopping with my family and couldn't work out why it was taking so long to get out of the car park… (but) as soon as I came out I saw a young lad at the top of the parapet at the shopping centre.

"People were filming… we could hear people shouting "jump you…" followed by a stream of expletives.

"They weren't all just young people, some were middle-aged. To be honest with you I was sickened."

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http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9237.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on October 09, 2008, 06:47:31 AM
Oh god.....that's just disgusting.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on October 09, 2008, 03:56:51 PM
Oh god.....that's just disgusting.

What'll really turn my stomach is when we find out how many hits the video gets on YouTube.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on October 27, 2008, 12:50:05 PM
FBI: Hate crime down in 2007 but anti-gay crime up
By MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writer Matt Apuzzo, Associated Press Writer   – 2 hrs 37 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Hate crime incidents decreased slightly last year, despite a surge in crimes targeting gays and lesbians.

The FBI reported more than 7,600 hate crime incidents in 2007, down about 1 percent from last year. The decline was driven by decreases in the two largest categories of hate crimes — crimes against race and religion.

But prejudice against sexual orientation, the third-largest category, increased about 6 percent, the report found.

The FBI report does not compare its data from one year to the next because the number of law enforcement agencies participating in the annual count varies from year to year. More agencies contributed to the 2007 report than the 2006 report, however.

The data released Monday is consistent with previous years. Racial bias remained the most common motive, accounting for more than half of all reported hate crimes. Blacks, Jews and gays were the most frequent victims of hate crimes, the report found.

The FBI report is purely statistical and does not assign a cause for the slight overall decrease or increase in anti-gay hate crimes.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081027/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/hate_crimes
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on October 31, 2008, 08:07:48 AM

Ireland's President urges kids to fight gay bullying

By Staff Writer, PinkNews.co.uk • October 30, 2008 - 16:37

The President of Ireland has spoken at a forum for gay, lesbian, bisexual and trans young people. Mary McAleese said that homophobic bullying must be tackled.

"Celebrating and respecting diversity among young people is at the heart of this important forum," she said, according to the Irish Times.

"Homophobic bullying continues to be a society-wide issue, including in our schools and the link between it and suicide sends a clear message that this trend must be reversed.

"By working together, by standing up for the democratic values that we share, by refusing to go along with loudly-voiced prejudices, we can overcome the bias and hostility experienced by many young gay people throughout the country.

"No-one should have to suffer on account of their sexual orientation."

Earlier this year the Association of Secondary Teachers, Ireland's other main teaching union, yesterday, produced a new information resource on homophobic bullying, in conjunction with the Gay and Lesbian Equality Network.

President McAleese, who is the first head of state from Northern Ireland, was a founder member of the Campaign for Homosexual Law Reform and its legal adviser until 1979.

A former barrister and law lecturer, she was elected for a second seven year term unopposed in 2004.

...

The Irish government has produced draft legislation that would create a form of civil partnerships for same-sex couples but has ruled out gay marriage, claiming that it would require a change to the country's constitution and a potentially divisive referendum.

The Republic of Ireland will recognise same-sex marriages, civil unions and civil partnerships from other countries when it legalises same-sex unions.

The UK already recognises same-sex unions and marriages from nearly 20 countries, including Canada, the US and France.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9440.html (http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9440.html)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on October 31, 2008, 09:14:56 AM
bullying must be tackled.

BWAAAHAAHAAA!!!

I've always said the best way to cure a bull is beat his ass.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: milomorris on November 02, 2008, 01:13:48 PM
Cyber attack against Gay Marriage website !

Beginning last night [Oct. 29] and continuing this morning a coordinated cyber attack on the No on Prop 8 website prevented some donors from being able to contribute. This attack is being investigated by federal authorities. Fortunately, there was no breach in security and No on Prop 8 is again able to accept contributions online.

http://npowebsite.net/pp/pp.asp?Mode=Flyer&ID=7314

This is a new method of gay bashing that can affect far more of us than a fist or a tire iron. Not only should federal criminal charges be made, but I think there should be a lawsuit to recover damages.

Milo 
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on November 02, 2008, 06:26:13 PM
a tad late on the bus, milo, as this hit the main gay news blogs several days ago, and may have been posted elsewhere here, election news, i think, but you forgot to add they are equal opportunity hackers, they hit florida red and blue as well.  that's our equivalent.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on November 14, 2008, 09:24:35 AM
Memphis Trans Woman Killed Execution-Style

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Duanna Johnson, a transgender woman who was suing the city of Memphis, Tenn., for alleged civil rights violations, was shot and killed execution-style on November 9, according to WPTY News.

"It's horrible timing,” said Murray Wells, Johnson’s attorney. "She was going home. The federal indictment was coming down. The lawsuit was going to be filed. And now all of that is on hold. So I find it ironic, at least."



http://advocate.com/news_detail_ektid65932.asp (http://advocate.com/news_detail_ektid65932.asp)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 14, 2008, 01:54:32 PM
Lesbians attacked outside school

Nov 11, 2008 04:30 AM
Moira Welsh
Staff Reporter



It was a sunny afternoon, school was out and children were gathering in the playground.

Jane Currie and her partner, Anji Dimitriou, both small, soft-spoken women, were waiting with other parents at Gordon B. Attersley public school in Oshawa, when, fists flying, a man attacked them, his blows as harmful as his words.

"Which one of you two 'men' spoke to my kid? F------ dyke. Lesbians," he said, spitting in Dimitriou's face. As she wiped her face, eyes closed, he punched her on the cheek and wound up again, slamming her backward into her truck. As Currie ran toward him, she remembers him shouting, "F------ dyke bitches," and punched her on the cheekbone so hard the skin burst apart, blood splattering.

What Currie remembers most, from the afternoon of Nov. 3, is the stillness of the schoolchildren, and the sound of her six-year-old son screaming. "It was a face of complete and utter horror," Currie said in an interview yesterday. "His mouth was wide open, and he just stood there, screaming."

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/534469
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on November 17, 2008, 02:02:56 PM
Michigan House votes to include LGBT community, disabled in hate crimes protections
November 14, 2008
Chris Johnson
Quote
The Michigan House of Representatives voted yesterday to expand the state's protections against hate crimes to include disability, sexual orientation and gender identity. The legislation now moves to the Republican-controlled Senate, where is it expected to face stiff opposition.

The legislation increases penalties for crimes committed on the basis of:

• Disability
• Gender
• National origin or ancestry
• Race, color, or ethnicity
• Religion
• Sexual orientation, gender identity, or expression of gender
• Association with a person or group with one or more of the characteristics listed above
http://www.hrcbackstory.org/2008/11/michigan-house.html (http://www.hrcbackstory.org/2008/11/michigan-house.html)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on November 17, 2008, 03:30:33 PM
this doesn't make much sense in light of their marriage amendment...

it seems to make it against the law to honor it as law.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on November 17, 2008, 03:43:28 PM
this doesn't make much sense in light of their marriage amendment...

it seems to make it against the law to honor it as law.

not really.

Married couples are not covered by the current hate crime laws, so it's not unconstitutional.

To be unconstitutional, the state would have to offer same sex couples any benefit that married couples receive. At least that's the way they interpret things in Michigan.

A good example is health insurance benefits. Since the state, and state universities, offers discounted insurance for married couples, it is considered illegal to offer the same benefit to same sex or unmarried couples, even though the insurance company offers the benefits. 

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 07, 2008, 06:17:45 PM
San Francisco man injured in alleged hate crime
by Seth Hemmelgarn
Published 12/04/2008

A gay San Francisco man was allegedly punched in the face after he and his friends were called "stupid faggots" near Union Square around midnight Sunday, November 23.

Jerry Deal, 32, the alleged victim, said that after suspect Andrew Duhamel, 29, punched him and ran away, he chased down Duhamel and Duhamel's three companions.

Duhamel pleaded not guilty Monday, December 1 to felony charges of making a criminal threat with an allegation of a hate crime; violation of an individual's civil rights; and assault. He was also ordered to stay 150 yards away from Deal and not to try to contact him in any way.

Duhamel, who appeared in San Francisco Superior Court out of custody with attorney Andrea Hartsough, declined to comment to the Bay Area Reporter. If convicted he could face time in state prison.

According to Inspector Mike Morley with the San Francisco Police Department's hate crimes unit, Duhamel, who appears to be about 5 feet 9 inches with a muscular build, is from Valley Springs, California, which is between Stockton and Lake Tahoe.

Deal said the incident started when he and his friends were outside the Donatello Hotel, which is on Post Street a block away from Union Square, just before midnight. Duhamel, another male and two females walked by. Deal said he's not certain, but it seemed only one person was yelling "Stupid faggots!" apparently referring to the clothes Deal and his friends were wearing.

Deal said he was wearing black cowboy boots, black jeans, and a black leather jacket, one friend was wearing a white suit, and another friend was wearing a velvet suit.

"San Francisco doesn't tolerate [that] ... you can take that back to wherever you came from," Deal recalled saying.

He said Duhamel's response was akin to, "'Oh, you stupid faggots' ... and other things like that."

Deal said Duhamel then went into the street and in front of a parked car, then came up from behind the car, pounced on him, and hit him across the face. Deal said he fell to the ground, and Duhamel and the three people with him ran off.

Deal said he got up and told others to call 911.

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http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=3536
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 12, 2008, 12:10:35 AM
Ex-Brazilian cop questioned in death of 13 gays
Thursday, December 11, 2008

A retired police officer has been detained in connection with the murders of 13 gay men in a low-income suburb of Sao Paulo, police said Thursday.

Retired state police Sgt. Jairo Francisco Franco was taken into custody Wednesday night after a witness identified him as the killer of a homosexual man on Aug. 19, said police inspector Paulo Fortunato.

Franco is suspected of acting alone in all of 13 killings between February 2007 and August 2008 at Paturis Park, a favorite meeting point for gay men, Fortunato said.

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/12/08/international/i143655S54.DTL
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 14, 2008, 10:42:03 AM
Once again...the people who die from anti-gay attacks aren't always gay....

Victim Brain Dead from Alleged Brooklyn Hate Crime Attack
December 9, 2008

The NYPD's Hate Crime Task Force is looking for suspects who attacked and beat two Ecuadorian brothers in Brooklyn, as one brother was declared brain dead. He remains in life support as relatives wait for his parents to arrive.

Jose Osvaldo Sucuzhanay, 31, and his brother Romel were drunk during the early hours of Saturday morning and were "staggering around... Kossuth Place and Bushwick Avenue." The NY Times writes, "They may have been a bit tipsy as they walked home in the dead of night, arm-in-arm, leaning close to each other, a common tableau of men in Latino cultures, but one easily misinterpreted by the biased mind."

The attackers, who got out of an SUV, used an aluminum bat and a broken bottle in their assault and allegedly yelled antigay epithets at them, like, "Check out those f----ts over there" (as well as "F--- you, Spanish people", and beat Sucuzhanay's skull in. The Daily News says Romel Sucuzhanay managed to escape, "His bloodied brother returned to the chaos, clutching his cell phone, telling the attackers that he had just phoned 911. The attack pack then sped off."

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http://gothamist.com/2008/12/09/victim_dies_from_alleged_brooklyn_h.php
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 14, 2008, 10:50:43 AM
Settlement in a beating case:

Jury selection to begin in alleged beating case
Monday, December 08, 2008 | 8:16 AM

Jury selection is scheduled Monday in a lawsuit against two Chicago police officers accused of beating a man.

It happened in March of 2006. Lawyers for Alexander Ruppert say the officers were on duty and responding to a call at the Uptown Lounge at Broadway and Lawrence.

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http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=6543851

and

Chicago settles suit over police treatment of gay man
Tribune staff report
December 10, 2008

City lawyers reached an agreement Tuesday with a man who said he was arrested and beaten by Chicago police because he was gay, settling the case on the morning testimony was set to begin in the civil trial.

A jury was selected and opening statements given by both sides Monday in the lawsuit filed by Alexander Ruppert, who said he was falsely arrested in March 2006, then viciously beaten by officers while they shouted anti-gay slurs.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chicago/chi-cops-lawsuit-gay-10-dec10,0,6414699.story
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 14, 2008, 10:54:51 AM
Ex-wife changes testimony in Rios murder trial
By JOE MEYER of the Tribune’s staff
Published on columbiatribune.com Friday, December 5, 2008

Former Columbia police Officer Steven Rios broke down in tears Thursday night during emotional testimony from his ex-wife about when he came home on the day he is accused of killing a University of Missouri student in 2004.

Elizabeth Sullivan testified Thursday night that Rios returned home at about 5:15 a.m. on June 5, 2004. The time is five minutes earlier than she initially told police and testified at Rios’ first trial in 2005.

Explaining the discrepancy, she said she set a clock near her bed five minutes fast to help her get to work on time in the mornings. Sullivan, who shared her ex-husband’s last name at the time, said she did not disclose the actual time Rios returned home in the 2005 trial because his previous attorney, public defender Valerie Leftwich, told her the five-minute difference would not matter as much and it would look like Sullivan was changing her story to give Rios a stronger alibi.

Under cross-examination Thursday night, Special Prosecutor Morley Swingle asked whether that meant Sullivan lied under her earlier sworn testimony.

“I guess I did,” she replied. “That’s what I was told.”

Prosecutors and defense attorneys rested their cases Thursday, and closing arguments were expected Friday morning.

Unlike his first trial in 2005, Rios did not take the witness stand in his own defense. The final witnesses called by the defense focused on the time between when Rios left the police department and when he returned home early on June 5, 2004. During that time, Rios is accused of slashing the throat of 23-year-old Jesse Valencia, with whom Rios was having an affair.

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http://www.columbiatribune.com/2008/Dec/20081204News054.asp
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 14, 2008, 10:57:05 AM
Jury convicts Rios in murder case
By JOE MEYER of the Tribune's staff
Published on columbiatribune.com Friday, December 5, 2008

After a little more than six hours of deliberations, a Clay County jury convicted former Columbia police Officer Steven Rios in the 2004 murder of University of Missouri student Jesse Valencia.

After a short recess ordered by Senior Judge Frank Conley, attorneys were to begin presenting evidence to jurors who will recommend a sentence to the judge.

Rios, 31, was convicted on charges of second-degree murder and armed criminal action in a retrial that began Monday with jury selection. The second-degree murder charge was included as a lesser offense option to first-degree murder that Rios was charged with. The lesser offense is punishable by a sentence of 10 years to life. The armed criminal action count adds at least another three years in prison to that term.

An appeals court last year overturned his 2005 conviction and sentence of life in prison without parole because of hearsay testimony admitted in the trial.

Prosecutors alleged Rios rendered Valencia unconscious by using a chokehold Rios learned during police training and then slashed Valencia's throat while he lay on the ground outside his East Campus home on June 5, 2004.

Special Prosecutor Morley Swingle also portrayed Rios as a compulsive liar who killed Valencia to keep him silent about disclosing their “secret sexual relationship.”

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http://www.columbiatribune.com/2008/Dec/20081205News051.asp
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 14, 2008, 06:07:12 PM
Ex-Brazilian cop questioned in death of 13 gays
Thursday, December 11, 2008

A retired police officer has been detained in connection with the murders of 13 gay men in a low-income suburb of Sao Paulo, police said Thursday.



Police have dubbed the killer of the 13 men as the "rainbow maniac," a reference to the gay-pride symbol.

"We are convinced he is the rainbow maniac we have been looking for," Fortunato said.


scumbag.  and he denies the charges.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 18, 2008, 01:10:38 PM
Puckett out on parole
by Ed Walsh

The fledging model who beat a gay man to death in 1997 is free on parole.

Josh Puckett, 28, was released from state prison on November 24 and is serving his parole in Ontario, about 35 miles east of Los Angeles.

Puckett confessed to killing Vitaly Poliakov, 29, in Orinda, in Contra Costa County. In a jailhouse interview shortly after his arrest, Puckett told the Bay Area Reporter that he was forced to kill Poliakov to fend off a sexual assault. 

Puckett's trial ended in a mistrial in 1998 after prosecutors played an inadmissible portion of Puckett's videotaped confession in court. Later, as part of a plea-bargain, Puckett pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter and first-degree burglary and was sentenced to 13 years, eight months, with the stipulation that he serve at least 10 years before being eligible for parole. The burglary charge stemmed from the break-in of a home near the homicide scene. 

Puckett maintained he is heterosexual and was forced to kill Poliakov, whom he had considered a friend, after Poliakov tried to sexually assault him. Prosecutors had argued that Puckett was much bigger and stronger than Poliakov and that he didn't have to kill him to prevent being assaulted.

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http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=3575
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 18, 2008, 01:12:36 PM
Man works to honor LGBT murder victims with national memorial
by Seth Hemmelgarn

In March 2007, Ryan Skipper, a 25-year-old gay man in Florida, died when his throat was slit and he was stabbed in the back over 20 times. His body was left by the side of a road and his alleged killers drove around in his blood-soaked car, boasting to others about the killing, according to news reports.

William David Brown Jr., 20, and Joseph Bearden, 21, have been charged with first-degree murder, and Skipper's death was declared a hate crime when the men were arrested, according to reports.

Ft. Lauderdale resident Scott Hall saw a story about Skipper's death on the news and Googled it to find out more. Hall said he found a story where the sheriff involved in the case implied that Skipper had been cruising for sex and had got what he deserved

That "lit a spark in me," Hall said.

Hall, who said he's in his 40s and prefers not to identify himself by any particular sexual orientation, said Skipper's murder got little media play, and he started asking gay friends if they'd heard about it – no one had.

That's how Hall started the Gay American Heroes memorial, which he plans to take across the country to schools, universities, and local communities to raise awareness of people who have been murdered as a result of hate crimes based on their sexual orientation and gender identity. Stops would include cities where the crimes have occurred.

Hall, who estimated there have been at least 30 such deaths this year, also hopes to link people up with LGBT resources.

The rainbow-colored exhibit, which will be eight feet tall (with lights) and 75 feet long, will have stars representing each person who has been murdered. Each star will have the person's name, age, occupation, and the state where they were murdered. Their picture will be included on an adjacent wall.

Hall said the memorial would cost about $120,000 to build. That doesn't include the truck and trailer that will be needed to haul it.

He said that so far, he's raised $50,000 to $60,000.

Hall is asking people to "adopt a hero" for $25. When someone adopts a hero, they'll get a card featuring the victim's face, and a card will also be sent to family members and others close to the victim, to "let them know they're loved one has been adopted and not forgotten," said Hall.

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http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=3576
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dback on December 18, 2008, 01:51:30 PM
Wow, that could be the next version of Cleve Jones' AIDS Quilt.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 18, 2008, 02:26:30 PM
Wow, that could be the next version of Cleve Jones' AIDS Quilt.

I agree - I think it's a great idea.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on December 18, 2008, 03:40:36 PM
Man works to honor LGBT murder victims with national memorial

http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=3576


i have been following this with admiration and interest for some time.  well done.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 20, 2008, 12:05:15 AM
Reward Offered In Gang Rape Of Richmond Woman

Richmond police are offering a $10,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of four men who allegedly kidnapped and gang raped a lesbian woman Saturday night, Lt. Mark Gagan said Friday.

Police are investigating the attack as a possible hate crime, Gagan said.
The assault began at about 9:30 p.m. in the 1500 block of Visalia Avenue in the city's Belding-Wood neighborhood.

The victim, a 28-year-old woman, was getting out of her car when she was confronted by four men.

"She was beaten, she was robbed and she was sexually assaulted," Gagan said.

A few minutes into the sexual assault, one of the men told the group that someone was approaching and they forced the victim into her car.

They took her to a desolate area near the Bay Area Rapid Transit tracks in the 1300 block of Burbeck Avenue and continued to sexually assault her, Gagan said.

"The victim was physically and sexually assaulted numerous times," Gagan said.

During the attack, which lasted for about 45 minutes, the suspects made several statements about the victim's sexual orientation, Gagan said.

The victim also had a rainbow sticker on her license plate that identified her as being supportive of the gay community, Gagan said.

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http://cbs5.com/crime/richmond.gang.rape.2.891647.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 21, 2008, 12:04:39 PM
^^^  The SF Chronicle picked up that story....

4 men sought in gang rape of lesbian
Elizabeth Fernandez, Chronicle Staff Writer
Sunday, December 21, 2008

(12-20) 23:34 PST RICHMOND -- Police are offering a $10,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of four men who allegedly kidnapped and gang-raped for nearly an hour a 28-year-old Richmond woman, who was left naked when they fled in her car.

The crime, which occurred on Dec. 13, is being investigated as a hate crime because of comments the suspects made about the victim's sexual orientation, police said. The woman is openly lesbian and had a rainbow sticker on her license plate, a symbol of gay pride.

"The emotional impact has changed her life," said Lt. Mark Gagan of the Richmond Police Department. "It is an absolute nightmare for her to have gone through. For 45 minutes, four strangers brutalized her."

The ordeal began around 9:30 p.m. in the 1500 block of Visalia Avenue in Richmond's Belding-Wood neighborhood, said Gagan.

The woman was sexually assaulted in that location after she got out of her car, police said. Then she was forced back into her vehicle after the suspects noticed someone approaching. She was driven seven blocks away to the 1300 block of Burbeck Avenue, where she was repeatedly sexually assaulted near an apartment complex, Gagan said.

After the attack, the men drove off in her car, police said. She sought help from a nearby resident who called police.

She was taken to a local hospital and treated for her injuries. Her car was recovered the next day in Richmond.

The attackers are being sought on charges of assault with a deadly weapon, robbery, kidnapping, carjacking and sexual assault. The charges carry a hate crime enhancement.

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/20/BAV714SBA1.DTL
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 23, 2008, 11:34:28 PM
Many suffered from anti-gay violence in 2008
December 23rd, 2008 @ 9:20pm
By LISA LEFF
Associated Press Writer

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - From a series of street bashings in Seattle to the baseball bat murder of an Ecuadorean immigrant in New York, episodes of anti-gay violence punctuated a year now ending with police investigating the alleged gang rape of a lesbian near San Francisco.

Advocates said Tuesday they do not know whether the threats, beatings and murders reflect a true rise in attacks or increased reporting of hate-based crimes that persist even as gays gain greater visibility and legal protections.

"When you are talking about hate crimes, people think someone is likely to report it, but in some communities the message is not always clear that our society has accepted LGBT folks," said Sarah Tofte, a researcher at New York-based Human Rights Watch, referring to the acronym for lesbians, gays, bisexuals and transgender people.

In Richmond, the crime-ravaged Bay Area city where the 28-year-old lesbian reported being assaulted by four men 10 days ago, police on Tuesday received so many calls from community members wanting to help that they asked the local rape crisis center to set up a fund to aid her.

FBI statistics show there were 1,265 hate crimes based on sexual orientation in 2007, up from 1,017 two years earlier and 1,239 in 2003. That compares to 3,820 racially motivated incidents in 2007 and 1,400 in which the victim's religion was a factor.

Because not all states allow attacks motivated by anti-gay bias to be charged as hate crimes and because some victims are reluctant to reveal their sexual orientations to police, gay and transgender rights advocates suspect the numbers to be much higher.

The vast majority of brutality against gays is carried out by young men, usually acting in groups, said Riki Wilchins, executive director of Gender Public Advocacy Coalition, a Washington nonprofit that works in schools to address discrimination.

Their victims most often are other young men with feminine demeanors or transgender women, said Wilchins. "These assailants are looking to eradicate and exterminate something that enrages them, and that is what makes them hate crimes," he said.

GenderPAC published a report in 2006 cataloguing the murders of 50 such victims under 30 years old over a 10-year period. The group has identified another 20 murders of "gender non-conforming youth" that have taken place in the two years since, although FBI statistics for the same period show only five hate crime slayings linked to the victim's sexual orientation.

"There has definitely been a huge spike. I don't think anybody knows why," Wilchins said.

Many of the incidents that have captured headlines this year _ from the February shooting death of a gay teenager at his Southern California middle school to this month's slaying of a Brooklyn man who was fatally beaten while walking arm-and-arm with his brother _ fit Wilchins' profile.

Larry King, the 15-year-old shot by a classmate, wore feminine clothing and makeup. Jose Sucuzhanay, 31, was beaten with a baseball bat in Brooklyn and kicked by three men who jumped out of a car yelling anti-gay and anti-Hispanic slurs.

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http://www.ksl.com/?nid=157&sid=5157054
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 28, 2008, 07:35:45 PM
Responses to the rape of a lesbian in Richmond - act up, fight back!

Gang rape of lesbian brings vigil, leafleting
Leslie Fulbright, Chronicle Staff Writer
Saturday, December 27, 2008

Two events will be held in Richmond this weekend to show support for a 28-year-old lesbian who was gang-raped earlier this month in what police are investigating as a hate crime.

A candlelight vigil will take place tonight at 9:30 p.m. at the intersection of 15th Street and Visalia Avenue, the same time when and location where the assault started. The vigil was organized by the Hand to Hand Kajukenbo Self Defense Center in Oakland.

On Sunday afternoon, both Spanish- and English-speaking volunteers will walk around the neighborhood, handing out flyers with the suspects' descriptions.

"We are hoping to find someone out there who knows these criminals," said Aileen Cancino of Contra Costa Equality, a grassroots human rights organization. "These men are still running loose, and we want people to know we will not sit back with our arms crossed and let this happen to another woman."

No arrests had been made in the case as of Friday, police said. A $10,000 reward is being offered for information leading to the arrests of the attackers.

The assault, which occurred Dec. 13 in two locations in the Belding-Wood neighborhood of Richmond, is considered a hate crime because the attackers made comments about the victim being a lesbian. She was left naked in front of an apartment complex when the four attackers took off in her car.

Hate crimes directed at people because of their sexual orientation have risen over the past two years, according to FBI statistics: 1,017 were reported in 2005, 1,195 in 2006 and 1,265 in 2007.

Community Violence Solutions, a nonprofit rape crisis center, has opened a fund in the name of Richmond Jane Doe to help the woman pay for relocation expenses, police said.

"We have received a lot of calls from people who are concerned and outraged, but tips leading to the suspects have not come in," said Richmond police Lt. Mark Gagan. "We encourage activities such as the vigil and leafleting the neighborhood - anything that may generate dialogue and lead to a witness coming forward."

Police described the first suspect as a Latino man in his 30s, about 5-foot-6, 180 pounds, with black hair, brown eyes and a mustache. The second suspect is described as an African American man in his 20s, about 5-foot-10, 170 pounds with black hair and brown eyes, who goes by the nickname "Blu," police said. The two other suspects are described as Latino men between 18 and 20 years old. One goes by the name "Pato," police said.

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/12/27/BASB14VFFR.DTL&hw=lesbian+rape&sn=001&sc=1000
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 02, 2009, 02:12:32 AM
4 charged in alleged rape of lesbian
Kelly Zito, Chronicle Staff Writer
Friday, January 2, 2009

In a case being investigated as a hate crime, two men and two teenagers have been arrested in connection with the alleged gang rape in December of a 28-year-old lesbian, Richmond police said Thursday.

Three suspects were taken into custody on Wednesday, and the fourth suspect, 21-year-old Josue Gonzalez, known by the nickname "Pato," turned himself in Thursday after authorities issued a $1 million arrest warrant, describing him as armed and dangerous, police said. Gonzalez walked into the Richmond police headquarters with his mother, stepfather and girlfriend just 10 minutes after police finished a midday news conference about their pursuit of Gonzalez, authorities said.

Apparently, the widespread publicity about the case was a factor in Gonzalez's surrender. The family "saw all the coverage on the news and got so many calls from the family, they came down to the station," said Richmond police Lt. Mark Gagan.

Gonzalez, who immediately told police he wanted a lawyer, was being held on a $1 million arrest warrant on suspicion of his involvement in the alleged rape and kidnapping.

On Wednesday, Richmond police arrested a 15-year-old boy and 31-year-old Humberto Hernandez Salvador at their Richmond homes. The 15-year-old was booked on suspicion of felony counts of sexual assault, kidnapping and robbery, Gagan said. Salvador, who authorities described as the ringleader in the incident, was arrested on suspicion of felony kidnapping to commit a sex crime, carjacking, rape, gang rape, as well as on suspicion of violating probation and committing felonies while on probation.

The teenager is being held with no bail at a juvenile facility in Martinez; Salvador is being held in Contra Costa County Jail in Martinez with no bail.

A 16-year-old from Hercules turned himself in around midnight Wednesday. He is also suspected of felonies related to the alleged rape and kidnapping and was also being held in a juvenile detention center. The teenager, nicknamed "Blue," was accompanied by his family, Gagan said.

Salvador "had the most involvement and gave orders and directions to the other individuals," Gagan said. "But they're all responsible for the crimes that were committed against the victim."

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/01/BAB9152HP7.DTL
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 02, 2009, 04:59:04 AM
Fantastic!  I'm so glad they were caught!

Now let's see if justice will be served.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Stilllearning on January 02, 2009, 03:50:27 PM
4 charged in alleged rape of lesbian
Kelly Zito, Chronicle Staff Writer
Friday, January 2, 2009



I just read about this ~ and that the men have been arrested, I just feel sick to my stomach.  Such a horrific incident.  And 2 of the 4 perpetrators are teenagers.  I can't even wrap my mind around it - what she suffered, that they could have done such a thing.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 02, 2009, 04:37:44 PM
I just read about this ~ and that the men have been arrested, I just feel sick to my stomach.  Such a horrific incident.  And 2 of the 4 perpetrators are teenagers.  I can't even wrap my mind around it - what she suffered, that they could have done such a thing.

A comment about this Dawn - the east bay (which is where Richmond is) is a very violent place - there is a place there called the 'iron triangle' which is among the most violent places in the bay area.  Life is very, very cheap there.  And where life is cheap and it intersects with sexual politics you see things of this nature.  Not pleasant, by any means, but I think this is what is happening.

Cases this reminds me of are the murder of Gwen Araujo:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwen_Araujo

The murder of Sakia Gunn:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakia_Gunn

And the attack on Rev. Louis Braxton Jr.:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/14/nyregion/14shelter.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Stilllearning on January 02, 2009, 05:06:51 PM
Well that helps me better understand why they are taking up a collection to help the woman relocate.

Thanks Michael.

I'll read the other articles you posted above.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 02, 2009, 05:17:11 PM
Well that helps me better understand why they are taking up a collection to help the woman relocate.

Thanks Michael.

I'll read the other articles you posted above.

If I lived there I certainly would.  It makes me feel for the people who can't.  Here's a bit more about the area that will give perspective:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/06/10/state/n103604D95.DTL

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/14/BA5J143V18.DTL&hw=deep+richmond+gang&sn=001&sc=1000
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on January 02, 2009, 09:10:56 PM
that particular rape case aside, i am pretty sure data will show that gay bashing (hate crimes where applicable) is on the rise nationwide, especially in gay enclaves.  without trying to get all gloom and doom, i would heartily recommend that everyone, gay or straight, who travels in such neighborhoods or who might "look" a tad gay or lesbian, be especailly wary, and take no neighborhood or situation for granted...  and NEVER EVER travel alone.

 
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 02, 2009, 09:47:23 PM
that particular rape case aside, i am pretty sure data will show that gay bashing (hate crimes where applicable) is on the rise nationwide, especially in gay enclaves.  without trying to get all gloom and doom, i would heartily recommend that everyone, gay or straight, who travels in such neighborhoods or who might "look" a tad gay or lesbian, be especailly wary, and take no neighborhood or situation for granted...  and NEVER EVER travel alone.

Jack, I travel alone all the time.  Bashing is on the rise (I've posted the stats here) but I think that with bashing as with rape that common sense is often the best guide.  I agree with being wary and with taking no neighborhood or situation for granted - but I also feel that a paralyzing sense of fear can be almost as much of a danger - you need to be able to react sensibly and not overreact.  I know that you are not suggesting that we be paralyzed in fear, but this reminds me of the last incident I was involved in, where a young man interrupted me while I was reading on the underground and told me that he was going to beat me the next time he saw me.  I knew a stop was coming up within a few minutes, so I simply looked at him, got up into the doorway and left at the next stop.

I do, however, believe that there are places that you can logically avoid.  There is an area near me where people are shot all the time.  I avoid that area.  And when I go down to the drag bar I visit in the Tenderloin, I try to work public transit so that I get as close as possible so I am not on the street for long.  I also do my best to avoid the areas in town where there are gang activity.

This being said...I have a relative who spent the last few decades of her life in her house and was not comfortable being out and about.  I believe we all have to seek a balance so that we do not put ourselves in unnecessary danger, but don't wind up agoraphobic and huddled behind doors either.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on January 03, 2009, 08:50:04 AM
michael, i think we have had this exchange before.  for some reason i cannot couch a precautionary heads up in a manner that does not suggest chicken little agoraphobia to you, and for all i know others.  oddly, i think we are in agreement that a little common sense goes a long way.  that said, perhaps we can agree as well that common sense is something akin to an oxymoron.  especially when alcohol (or your drug of choice) is involved. 

while you are a seasoned veteran, and highly attuned to your surroundings, not everyone has jungle combat spidey sense.  one thing i have noticed is that travelling in small groups doesn't seem to offer the protection it used to, as attackers now seem willing to take on groups of two or three.  we are also seeing a rise in cross cultural bashings, as people from less tolerant cultures, and less respect for the rules of a democratic society immigrate in numbers to specific geographic areas.  bolstered by the social and religious constructs of their native group, they are coming out to kill and maim, not as a prank, but on a mission from god.

while we are in agreement that it is my god given right to walk home alone from an evening out at 2am, i can promise you it is not a right i will be exercising any time soon.  that is not agoraphobia OR timidity.  that is knowing that choices have consequences.

it is also true that more assaults are now occurring in more routine hours and in quite visible locations.  i am not sure to what to attribute this, unless it is the increased visibility and open expression of homosexuality that is threatening to some mentalities.

perhaps, in retrospect, this is the wrong venue for such caveats, because in some respects, i am preaching to the choir. if one is reading this thread, it can be assumed one is familiar with the problem.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 03, 2009, 04:01:35 PM
We have had the exchange about being out on the streets at 2 or 3 am before.  What I am reacting to in your earlier message is this:

and NEVER EVER travel alone.

For the moment I'm not talking about being on the streets alone at 3am.  I'm talking about living alone.  I live alone - as do many of my friends.  Never traveling alone seems to me to be impractical advice Jack.  I travel alone in most of my daily forays into the world.  I do it when I go to work, go to meet friends, etc.

And I have to say that this advice does remind me of the sort of thing I heard while growing up.  I had quite old parents, Jack - my father was 70 when I was born (and my mother - the worse of the two when it came to this sort of thing - was in her 40s).  I was constantly hearing what a dangerous place the world was.  A little of this sort of thing goes a very long way - and can leave you a frightened, vulnerable person.

I've travelled to Greece, Mexico, Spain, Northern Ireland and many, many other places by myself.  When I went to N. Ireland it was shortly after a bombing (in 1996) and the cab driver on the way to the rental car place asked me if I was daft.  I maintain that if you educate yourself about your surroundings - local or far away - it helps a lot with safety.  You can also read about how to watch your surroundings in books like this:

http://www.amazon.com/Surviving-Aggressive-People-Practical-Prevention/dp/1591810051/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231022715&sr=1-5

http://www.amazon.com/Fight-Back-Yourself-Physical-Self-Defense/dp/1931722463/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231022715&sr=1-6

http://www.amazon.com/Gift-Fear-Gavin-Becker/dp/0440508835/ref=pd_ts_b_2?ie=UTF8&s=books

And find out about safety in your area with websites like this:

http://www.sfgate.com/maps/sfhomicides/

And you can find out about information like this through your local police department or local anti-violence project.  You can find out about violence on public transit as well.

Information is a powerful tool Jack.  Better to inform yourself than to have global unfocused fear - and I would remind you that if you huddle scared behind a door, whether alone or in groups, the homophobes and sexists win.

And this is a useful book too:

http://www.amazon.com/Culture-Fear-Americans-Afraid-Things/dp/0465014909/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231023659&sr=1-1
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on January 03, 2009, 05:34:11 PM
well, i am hardly a huddler.  had i been, we might never have met.  and i do indeed travel alone, and it appears that i am gong to have to continue to do so.  that said, there are a lot of things i used to do, and places i used to go, and people i used to hang out with, that would cause my toes to curl and my saliva dry up today.  it is true that i was thinking of evening hours when i enjoined solitary excursions. and in those instances where it is truly unavoidable after dark or in areas with a pattern of assaultsknowing your limits and knowing the risk are surely half the battle. and one can field train or book train, both have merit.  i have done both, and so have you.  i don't think either of us have victim written all over us.  i don't think thatmakes us invulnerable, but i believe we are better equipped than many of our respective contemporaries. if i underestimate the skills of tribe, perhaps you overestimate them.  or perhaps not.  i am DEFINITELY not your parents !  :P
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 03, 2009, 07:22:47 PM
i don't think either of us have victim written all over us.  i don't think thatmakes us invulnerable, but i believe we are better equipped than many of our respective contemporaries. if i underestimate the skills of tribe, perhaps you overestimate them.  or perhaps not.  i am DEFINITELY not your parents !  :P

Gracias Abuelita!

I'm just saying these skills can be learned, Jack.  And that it's important to be cautious, but it's equally important to live a worthwhile life.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:08:19 AM
RICIN: Seattle Gay Bars Receive Threatening Letters
Posted by Dan Savage  on Wed, Jan 7 at 10:00 AM

Eleven gay bars in Seattle received letters today addressed to the "Owner/Manager" from someone claiming to be in the possession of ricin, a deadly poison. "Your establishment has been targeted," the letter begins. "I have in my possession approximately 67 grams of ricin with which I will indiscriminately target at least five of your clients."

"I felt sick when I read it," said Carla, the owner/manager of Re-bar. "It's so vile. It's just hatred. It made me worry for all the other bars, and for my bartenders, and our clientele."

According to the CDC's website, someone who has ingested "a significant amount" will develop vomiting and diarrhea within the first 6-12 hours; other symptoms of ricin poisoning include hallucinations, seizures, and blood in the urine. There is no antidote for ricin but ricin exposure is not invariably fatal.

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http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/01/06/gay_bars_receive_threatening
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:31:51 AM
Stop Early Parole for Sean Kennedy's Killer
Wednesday, January 7, 2009

In May of 2007, in Greenville, South Carolina, Sean Kennedy, a 20-year-old gay man was leaving a bar when Stephen Andrew Moller called him a homophobic slur and hit him in the face so hard that Kennedy's brain separated from its stem. Moller left him on the sidewalk, unconscious, and Sean died later than night from his injuries.

Sean Kennedy’s family will never see justice done for Sean. Because of the inadequacy of South Carolina murder laws and the lack of hate crime statutes, his killer, Stephen Andrew Moller, could be out of prison as early as February. We must protest this injustice and ask the parole board to make Moller serve the remainder of his sentence.

Moller was plea bargained down to involuntary manslaughter and received a suspended 5 year sentence for his crime. Because of the credit he received for time he served before his sentencing, the longest possible time he will have to serve in prison is until September 2009. Despite the violence of his crime, he could be eligible for parole by this coming February, meaning that he will have served only 8 months since his sentencing in prison.

The parole board is currently conducting an investigation to decide whether to allow him to have a parole hearing, so it is critical that they hear from you that Stephen Andrew Moller violently murdered Sean Kennedy and should serve the remainder of his sentence!

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http://queersunited.blogspot.com/2009/01/stop-early-parole-for-sean-kennedys.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on January 08, 2009, 01:36:46 AM
^^^ what the fuck. 5 years for murdering somebody? and an early parole? that's insane... it's clear they think this moller guy was doing greenville a favor by killing a gay man.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 08, 2009, 04:41:56 AM
5 years for murder.....insane.  And early parole on top of it.   boggles the mind
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 10:43:03 AM
Yeah, it's Dan White all over again.  The only difference is that this is a kid who did not have any sort of political enemies.  So what we've got is that it's open season on queers in South Carolina.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: ChrisW on January 08, 2009, 12:11:49 PM
You know folks - it's when I read this that I know the US and the UK are unbelievably different. I have no idea when the last time anything like this happened over here was. I suspect that the Nazi treatment of gay men has made such crimes associated with right wing extremism.

I'm just listening to our openly gay minister Peter Mandelson talking about job losses at a Nissan plant here. He just gets on with the job.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 12:17:00 PM
Well right off the top of my head, Chris, the first thing I think of is the bombing of the Admiral Duncan in London - which killed 3 and wounded 70 on April 30, 1999.  It was a bombing by a neo-nazi British National party member:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Admiral_Duncan_pub#Bombing

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/leading-article-the-soho-nail-bomb-explodes-a-myth-about-liberal-britain-1091148.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 12:19:25 PM
Here's another attack in the UK - from last year:

Gay man suffers homophobic attack in club
26 December 2008
By Stef Hall

A gay man has been left facing facial surgery after a homophobic attack in a Preston club.
Hairdresser Daniel Jenkinson, 23, who was left covered in blood after the assault, says he is now frightened to go out in the city.

His attacker – Neil Bibby, 22, of Bramble Court, Penwortham, Preston – was sentenced to 200 hours' unpaid work, a three-month weekend curfew, and ordered to pay £2,000 compensation by Preston Magistrates after he pleaded guilty to assault.

Daniel, from Ashton, had been with a group of female friends in the Academy bar in Preston on October 23 when Bibby, unprovoked, punched him and broke his nose.

Bibby was chased by one of Daniel's friends – a pregnant woman – who pointed him out to police, and he was arrested.

Daniel said: "I was stunned. At first I wondered if I had looked at him but I knew I hadn't as I keep my head down in straight bars. Some men get uncomfortable if you make eye contact with them.

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http://www.lep.co.uk/news/Gay-man-suffers-homophobic-attack.4824255.jp
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 12:21:34 PM
And another murder:

Man jailed for life for homophobic murder
Published Date:  12 December 2008

A homophobic thug was jailed for life for murdering an accountant in a public toilet in Surrey simply because he was gay.
Judge David Paget told Mark Malone he must serve a minimum term of 30 years after hearing that he posed a danger to homosexuals.

Malone, 30, stabbed Jeff Akers in a public toilet in Walton-on-Thames in February this year and had previously attacked another man in the same place.

The judge told him: "I am satisfied that you went there looking for someone gay to attack. You clearly have a hatred of homosexuals."

Malone, a married father-of-two, of Clement Road, Walton-on-Thames, was found guilty of murder by a jury last month.

Mr Akers, 50, originally from Barry, South Wales, lived with his partner Mike Drew in Wallington, Surrey. They had been together 22 years.

The court heard that Malone, who used to go fishing nearby, had stolen the knife from a burger van before making his way to the toilets, knife in hand and looking to one witness as if he was "on a mission".

In September last year he had been involved in a previous incident at the same location when he burst into a cubicle and attacked a Brazilian man.

Five years ago he was jailed for three months for twice punching an autistic man he believed was gay because he thought he was staring and winking at him on a bus in Helston, Cornwall.

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http://www.lep.co.uk/latest-london-news/Man-jailed-for-life-for.4789198.jp


Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 12:23:21 PM
Man's horror at homophobic attack

A man has said he was "left for dead" in what police have described as a homophobic attack.

Stephen Scott, 27, was walking home near Ballyduff Brae in Newtownabbey on Wednesday night when he was attacked.

Three youths, thought to be in their late teens, knocked him to the ground and continued kicking and punching him as they shouted insults.

Mr Scott is being treated in hospital for a head injury, a leg injury and broken ribs.

"As far as I'm concerned they're scum," he said.

"It's enough to take a life - there were three of them on me and I was left for dead."

He urged victims of homophobic attacks not to be afraid to tell police.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7439296.stm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 12:25:20 PM
Teen dies after homophobic attack
 Aug 2 2008  By Ben Rossington 

A TEENAGER battered in a homophobic attack on Merseyside today (Saturday) lost his fight for life.

Michael Causer, 18, was assaulted on Tarbock Road, Huyton, at around 11am last Friday, July 25.

It is alleged he was set upon by two men, who have both been arrested and charged with causing grievous bodily harm.

The ECHO understands the pair - James O’Connor and Gavin Alker - will be rearrested by detectives in the coming days and the charge will be upgraded to murder.

Michael was found by paramedics lying still in a pool of blood. He was taken to Whiston Hospital where, last weekend, doctors performed emergency surgery in an attempt to stem the swelling on his brain.

His distraught family kept a bedside vigil as he was moved to the specialist neurology centre at Walton but Michael died at around 12.30pm today.

Police are described the attack as a “hate crime” because Michael was openly gay.

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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/breaking-news/2008/08/02/teen-dies-after-homophobic-attack-100252-21454861/
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 12:29:10 PM
Hate crimes: one in five gay people suffer homophobic attacks
John Carvel, social affairs editor
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 26 June 2008 11.44 BST

One in five lesbian and gay people have been victims of homophobic aggression over the past three years, a survey of hate crime revealed today.

Their experiences ranged from beatings and sexual assault to persistent harassment and insults, often from neighbours and colleagues.

The gay rights charity Stonewall said the lives of Britain's 3.6 million lesbian and gay people were overshadowed by the fear of homophobic crime.

It commissioned YouGov to carry out the first comprehensive national survey into the problem, questioning more than 1,700 lesbian, gay and bisexual people.

The poll found a homophobic crime or incident had been experienced by 12.5% over the past year and 20% over the past three years.

One in six of the victims had been physically assaulted and one in eight had been subjected to unwanted sexual contact. Almost nine in 10 had experienced homophobic insults and harassment.

Three-quarters of the victims had not reported the incident to the police, often because they did not think the complaint would be investigated.

Only 1% of hate crimes that were reported to the police resulted in a conviction. Two-thirds of victims who reported incidents to the police were not offered advice or referred to support services.

Jacqui Smith, the home secretary, congratulated the charity for undertaking "this timely research".

She said: "We are determined that lesbian and gay people should have the confidence to report crimes to the police knowing they will be taken seriously, the crime investigated and their privacy respected."

She said the findings of the poll would be considered by the ministerial action group on violence, which is investigating further action on hate crimes.

The charity was prompted to commission the poll by the murder of Jody Dobrowski, a 24-year-old assistant bar manager who was beaten to death in a homophobic assault on Clapham Common, south London, in 2005.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/jun/26/equality.gayrights
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 12:31:19 PM
Gay man fights for life after homophobic attack
By 365gay Newscenter Staff
09.04.2008 4:19pm EDT

(London) Three teenagers are in police custody following a vicious unprovoked attack in East London that has left a gay man in hospital fighting for his life.

The 20-year old victim, whose name is being withheld by police for his protection, was stabbed seven times.

The attacked occurred as the man and his female friend were walking towards a gay-friendly bar. Police said five teens swarmed the victim and the woman. They yelled homophobic taunts at the man, before beating him over the head with a bottle and then stabbing him in the back and torso.

He was rushed to Royal London hospital where he underwent emergency surgery and was listed Thursday in serious condition.

Investigators are continuing to search for two other teens involved in the attack.  They said that the teens could be charged with attempted murder, but that could be upgraded to murder if the victim succumbs to his injuries.

“What we’re concentrating on is tracking down and bringing to justice the people who committed this evil crime,” Det. Insp. Howard Way told the local newspaper The East London Advertiser.

It was the 47th homophobic attack in East London in the past 12 months.

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http://www.365gay.com/news/090408-gay-hate-crime/
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 12:33:49 PM
Warrant out for homophobic attacker
 Published Date:  01 December 2008
By Rob Middleton

A warrant has been issued for the arrest of a Polish man who carried out a homophobic attack in a Northampton.
Andrew Mazonjk, aged 26, failed to turn up at Northampton Crown Court to be sentenced for an assault committed with another un-named Polish man.

They were in Victoria Park in Semilong on June 27 when they attacked and assaulted a 21-year-old man.

Michael Ellis, prosecuting, asked Recorder Sam Mainds to issue the arrest warrant when Mazonjk, of Aberdare Road, Spencer, failed to answer his bail on Friday.

He said: "This was a rather unpleasant homophobic attack in a park. The co-accused has already fled back to Poland."

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http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/Warrant-out-for-homophobic-attacker.4746528.jp
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 12:36:45 PM
Armed gang in gay club attack
Published Date:  28 February 2006

CLUBBERS were injured when a gang of weapon-wielding thugs trashed a gay Sheffield nightclub in a homophobic attack.

The five-strong gang burst into Club X-es and in a frenzied attack destroyed optics behind the bar, pulled off beer pumps and smashed windows.

Three clubbers who tried to intervene and stop the yobs damaging the venue were hurt in the crossfire during the violence at the club on Carlisle Street, Attercliffe.
South Yorkshire Police today revealed they are treating it as "a homophobic incident".
Det Con Nathan Hoole, who is investigating, said homophobia was the only motive to have been suggested so far. "So far the only suggested motive is that this was a homophobic attack on the people in the club or those running it," he said.

"Those responsible, believed to be five men, stormed in, shouted insults and set about trashing the place. They caused considerable damage to the bar area, smashing the optics and pulling off beer pumps.

"It is thought everything happened quickly, that they were intent on causing damage and that within a minute or so they had achieved what they wanted to and left.
"We believe they came with the intention of causing damage and that people who got in their way got assaulted. They came brandishing weapons, so this was pre-planned.
"This is being treated extremely seriously."

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Armed-gang-in--gay.1368284.jp
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 12:38:50 PM
Man injured in homophobic and racist attack
Published Date:  22 December 2008

A man was subjected to homophobic and racist abuse before being smashed in the face with a glass in a Brighton street, police have said.

Images of two men who police want to speak to in connection with the attack in West Street have been issued by Sussex Police.

The victim, aged 50, sustained extensive injuries during the assault, a police spokesman said.

He said that the victim was distinctive as he was wearing smart clothing including a waistcoat and a hat.

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http://www.littlehamptongazette.co.uk/latest-south-east-news/Man-injured-in-homophobic-and.4812586.jp
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 12:40:30 PM
Neighbour set fires in homophobic attack on couple’s flat
Nov 24 2007  by Our Correspondent, Daily Post

A MAN who set fire to his neighbour’s flat in an allegedly homophobic attack was yesterday locked up indefinitely.

A court heard how Alan Pollitt went to the nearby Rhyl flat of a homosexual couple who had been together for 18 years, and threatened one of the men with a metal bar.

The victim then left the property seeking his partner to tell him what had occurred.

The couple went for a drink to discuss the matter and while the flat was empty, Pollitt broke in and started five fires.

Alan Pollitt was yesterday handed a potentially indefinite prison sentence by Judge John Rogers QC at Mold Crown Court.

In a victim impact statement one of the men, Stephen Taylor, 51, said the incident had “totally ruined his life”, he had since split up with his partner and moved away from Rhyl.

The court heard that damage estimated at £5,000 was caused and other residents of the block in multiple occupancy, who were safely evacuated, were put in grave danger.

Pollitt had previously admitted arson and being reckless as to whether lives would be endangered at the flat in John Street in Rhyl on September 26. He received an indeterminate sentence which means that he will only be released when the parole board consider he is safe.

Karen Mullin, prosecuting, said Pollitt, who had a previous conviction for arson following a similar incident in Preston, later told how he planned to kill one or both of his neighbours.

He expressed no remorse for his actions.

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http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2007/11/24/neighbour-set-fires-in-homophobic-attack-on-couple-s-flat-55578-20153938/
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 12:44:29 PM
Homophobic gang murder victim was survivor of Soho bomb
From The Times
November 2, 2004

David Morley, 37, suffered 40 bruises, a ruptured spleen and fractured ribs when he was attacked by a gang of teenagers close to the Royal Festival Hall in London.

Scotland Yard said that the youths — two white boys, two white girls and two black boys — carried out three vicious attacks which are being treated as homophobic.

The disclosure that the murdered man had survived the bombing of the Soho pub which killed three and injured 73 in April 1999 brought revulsion to the capital’s homosexuals.

Richard Brett-Cairns, 30, a friend of Mr Morley, said yesterday: “I remember when I heard that the bomb had gone off at the Admiral Duncan. I thought ‘Oh my God, Sinders’, and now this. He was the life and soul of the party. He made a good night into a great night. There was never a sad face when Sinders was around.”

The pub bombing was the climax of a 14-day London terror campaign by David Copeland who injured 139 in blasts targeting blacks in Brixton, Asians in Brick Lane and gays in Soho.

As the sun set over Waterloo Bridge last night, a rainbow flag fluttered and flowers were left at the spot beside the South Bank of the Thames where Mr Morley was killed.

“Sinders, we’ll never forget you,” read one tribute. “David was a kind, gentle non-violent man”, another recalled. “Sinders — dearly loved, deeply missed,” said another.

Detective Chief Inspector Nick Scola said that Mr Morley had been chatting on a bench in the early morning for three hours with a former boyfriend when they were spoken to by the gang and then attacked.

The two men were kicked and punched to the ground and had items stolen from them. Mr Morley’s 29-year-old companion was injured but has been released from hospital.The gang then moved under a footbridge and attacked a group of French people including a woman.

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article501919.ece
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 12:46:40 PM
Men jailed for unprovoked homophobic attack

Abdulrahman and Munye were on board a N38 bus on 20th December 2007 with a group of approximately eight youths.

Two males, aged 29 and 31 were also on board the bus and were wearing 'commando' style fancy dress costumes, having attended a Christmas party. When the bus reached Theobolds Road, the group of youths on board began jeering at the two men in fancy dress and asked if they were gay. The 29 year old man said that he was and joked with the group.

The victim isn't homosexual, but believing he was, the group reacted extremely violently and punched and kicked the victims to the floor before stamping on them. The 29 year old victim sustained a broken cheekbone and substantial bruising to his face and body and the second victim, aged 31, sustained cuts and bruises.

Munye also attempted to burn part of one of the victim's outfits.

Other passengers on the bus described being so scared that they moved away as they believed that the group would turn on them.

The suspects got off of the bus in Rosebery Avenue.

Both suspects initially pleaded not guilty, however later changed their pleas to guilty.

http://cms.met.police.uk/met/boroughs/camden/04how_are_we_doing/news/men_jailed_for_unprovoked_homophobic_attack
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 12:49:33 PM
Man sought over homophobic attack on Brighton train
By Staff Writer, PinkNews.co.uk • October 24, 2008 - 13:23

The British Transport Police have released CCTV images of a man they would like to speak to in connection with a homophobic attack in which the victim was bitten.

The incident happened at 12.05am on Friday September 19th on the train from London Victoria to Brighton.

The 38-year-old victim was subjected to homophobic verbal abuse by another passenger before being assaulted, during which he sustaied a deep bite wound to the hand.

"This was a particularly nasty attack on a passenger and we are eager to track down the perpetrator of the offence," said PC Henrik Gottler.

"We are very keen to speak to the man pictured in the CCTV images as he may be able to provide us with information which could help with our enquiries.

"The man was described as a white male in his early 40s, with a bald head, shaved on the sides.

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http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9385.html

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 12:52:51 PM
Gang of youths attack gay man
 Published Date:  17 January 2007
By By Polly Rippon

Kevin Faulkner is nursing a black eye, chipped tooth and bruising to his head after being beaten up in a homophobic attack in Sheffield city centre.

Kevin says his chin and tongue were also split open by a gang of youths who punched and kicked him to the ground on Wellington Street.

The 25-year-old shop assistant, who had his chin glued back together in hospital, told The Star: "I am in a lot of pain and quite shaken up by it all.

"It was an unprovoked attack. The group of lads came up to me and one of them asked me if I was gay.

"He just kept saying, 'Are you gay? Are you gay?' so I said yes.

"I think it is disgusting, and I don't think this would have happened if I wasn't gay."

Kevin, from Wadsley Bridge, had been out drinking with a female colleague when the pair first encountered the gang in a takeaway.

He said: "There was a group of youths in there, about five or six of them, all in their late teens or early 20s.

"They were being really rude to the staff so I told them a 'please' wouldn't go amiss.

"They seemed fine with it and we left to get a taxi.

"Then we saw some of them come running down the street and one of them came up and started asking if I was gay.

"He kept saying it over and over again.

"When I said 'Yes' one of them punched me in the face and pushed me over.

"He kicked me up against the wall and at least three of them started kicking me.

"The next thing I can remember is being inside the ambulance."

Kevin's workmate was also threatened when she tried to intervene. Kevin said three of the men were caught on CCTV and later arrested.

http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/Gang-of-youths-attack-gay.1975785.jp
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Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 08, 2009, 12:55:15 PM
Yeah, it's Dan White all over again.  The only difference is that this is a kid who did not have any sort of political enemies.  So what we've got is that it's open season on queers in South Carolina.


but when we get angry and stand up we're "bashing back" and being "disrespectful".


>:(
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 12:59:00 PM
Man faces prison for homophobic attack
15-11-2008

A Brighton man has been convicted at Lewes Crown Court for an unprovoked, homophobic attack on a man following last year's Pride celebrations in August.

The jury at Lewes Crown Court had been told that the man attacked his victim, a 44 year old man causing a broken arm. The victim, who had travelled from the Grimsby area to attend Brighton Pride, was walking along St James Street at around 6.00am on 5th August 2007 when he passed his attacker who started to shout homophobic abuse before assaulting him.


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Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 08, 2009, 01:04:26 PM
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Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:06:44 PM
Life sentence for man guilty of gay murder
12/12/2008

A MARRIED man who stabbed a gay accountant to death in public toilets in Walton has been sentenced to life in prison.

Mark Malone had denied murdering Peter Jeffrey Akers, who was known as Jeff, at the Cowey Sale toilets next to Walton Bridge on February 19.

However, he was found guilty in November of what police described as "a vicious, unprovoked homophobic attack".

Malone, 30, who lived in Clements Road, Walton, plunged a kitchen knife into the back of 50-year-old Mr Akers and then fled the scene. He later told his brother-in-law: "I hope the guy dies."

Malone had attacked a gay man in the same toilets a few months earlier and has a previous conviction for a homophobic attack in 2003.

At the Old Bailey on Friday, Malone was told he will have to serve a minimum of 30 years behind bars.

Judge David Paget QC said: "You did this simply because he was gay. I am satisfied that you took that knife and went into those public lavatories looking for someone you thought was gay to stab.

"You knew they were frequented by gay men.

"In killing that man you took away the life of a thoroughly decent and much-loved man to the lasting grief of his partner of 22 years, his family and his large circle of friends.

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http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/2041267_life_sentence_for_man_guilty_of_gay_murder
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Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:10:14 PM
Teenager Jailed For Life For Homophobic Murder
12 November 2007

A teenager who murdered a gay council worker in a homophobic attack in Scotland has been jailed for life.

David Meehan, 19, from Perth had pleaded guilty to the murder of James Kerr, 51, in South Inch Park in the early hours of April 22.

At the High Court in Edinburgh on Monday, Meehan was jailed for life with a minimum sentence of 16 years.

His co-accused, Martin Soutar, 21, also from Perth, was sentenced to nine years in jail and three years on license after pleading guilty to culpable homicide.

A 15-year-old boy, who cannot be named for legal reasons, has is due to be sentenced in connection with the brutal attack on Tuesday. He has pleaded guilty to assault.

The court heard how the attack was triggered by the 15-year-old who allegedly claimed that Mr Kerr, an officer for Perth and Kinross Council, had "tried it on" with him as he walked through the park.

The teenager, accompanied by Meehan and Soutar, then went to the park and attacked Mr Kerr, leaving him in a pool of blood, suffering from major head injuries.

He was discovered later by a woman walking her dog and died in hospital later that day.

At sentencing on Monday, Judge Lord MacPhail said: "This was a killing of a callous and brutal character, which appears to have been marked by a homophobic element.

http://www.4ni.co.uk/northern_ireland_news.asp?id=68410

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Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:12:30 PM
Gang strike in homophobic attacks

An assault on a 36-year-old man who was robbed, beaten up and left with serious facial injuries is being treated as a homophobic attack by police.

Officers in Brighton are linking the assault in Stanford Avenue in the early hours of Tuesday with another attack a mile away on Friday night.

Both involved four Afro-Caribbean men who got out of a red car.

The first attack, in Hamilton Road, left the 39-year-old victim with serious face and leg injuries.

He was attacked while he was walking with a 36-year-old friend, who managed to run off, and robbed of a gold necklace, watch and cash.

'Vicious attacks'

Money was also stolen in the second attack, whose victim was taken to the Royal Sussex County Hospital for treatment.

"These are vicious attacks which we are treating as homophobic," said Det Sgt Mick Richards.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/sussex/6240146.stm
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Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:14:52 PM
Livingstone slams homophobic attacks
Tuesday 02 November 2004



LONDON Mayor Ken Livingstone condemned a series of "vicious and cowardly" homophobic attacks which culminated in a man's murder yesterday.

The 15-minute frenzy of assaults took place along the city's South Bank on Saturday night.

Six people, including five men, were beaten with fists, feet and improvised weapons, in four separate incidents along a short stretch of the busy riverside route, home to some of London's cultural landmarks.

Barman David Morley suffered serious head injuries and died in hospital the same night.

Police confirmed that he was gay and said that several other victims believed that their sexuality was the motive of the attacks.

Mr Livingstone said: "This was a vicious and cowardly attack and our thoughts are with David Morley's family and friends.

"London's lesbian and gay community and visitors to the city, must be totally free of fear of hate crime.

He added: "I would urge anyone who has any information to come forward and assist the police with their inquiries.

"Homophobic attacks will not be tolerated in this city and those responsible for this crime must be brought to justice."

The two attackers, one white and one black, were both in their mid to late teens and had two young women with them.

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http://ww2.morningstaronline.co.uk/news/britain/livingstone_slams_homophobic_attacks
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Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:17:00 PM
Police hunt runaway thug after homophobic attack
26 June 2008

POLICE have issued this picture of a man 'on the run' who has been jailed in his absence for a vicious gang attack on two men in the street in the middle of the night.

Sahin Rahman is one of four thugs sentenced this week following the attack at Hackney-road, Bethnal Green, in London's East End, two years ago.

Police say Rahman (pictured), who had been living in Mckenzie-road in Holloway, north London, is currently at large after failing to appear at Snaresbrook crown court on June 16 and remains wanted.

His accomplices, all from Holloway, have appeared in court.

Shamimur Rahman, 22, admitted violent disorder and was jailed for 13-and-a-half months.

Motiur Rahman, also 22, was found guilty of violent disorder and GBH and was jailed for seven years.

Nurul Ahmed, 25, was also convicted of violent disorder and sentenced to 18 months.

The gang drew up in a car when they spotted two men walking home along Hackney-road two years ago after a night out and hurled homophobic abuse at them in the mistaken belief they were gay.

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Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:24:51 PM
Man launched homophobic attack
Friday, August 22, 2008, 07:00

A MAN who launched a homophobic attack on the landlord of a North Lincolnshire pub, was so drunk he could not recall the crime, a court heard.

Prosecutor Dennis Aisthorpe told North Lincolnshire magistrates the victim of the assault was Terrence Braniff-Coe, the landlord of the Bay Horse at Winteringham.

The attacker, John Spink, of Marsh Lane, Winteringham, had previously been barred from the pub.

Mr Aisthorpe said Mr Braniff-Coe lived at the pub with his partner, with whom he had gone through a civil partnership.

At about 10.30pm on April 5, Mr Braniff-Coe was walking his dog on the footpath outside Spink's address.

"He saw the defendant, he noticed he was having a lot of trouble getting his key into the lock," Mr Aisthorpe said.

He asked if he needed any assistance and Spink turned around and asked who it was. "He said it's Terry – Bay Horse Terry," he said.

Spink then launched the attack. "The defendant suddenly punched Mr Braniff-Coe in the head twice. The punches were in quick succession," said Mr Aisthorpe.

The landlord walked away, but Spink started hurling abuse at him.

Mr Braniff-Coe later told police he was 'very scared' over the assault.

"About three years prior to this he had a coil fitted inside his head because he had a brain haemorrhage and any blow to the head could have been fatal," Mr Aisthorpe explained.

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http://www.thisisscunthorpe.co.uk/news/Man-launched-homophobic-attackarticle-283356-details/article.html
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Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:28:50 PM
Police arrest 198 over hate crime
Thursday, 22 May 2008

Police have arrested 198 people on suspicion of domestic, homophobic and race hate crimes after raids across London, Scotland Yard have said.

Operation Athena targeted prolific offenders and took place on Wednesday to mark last Saturday's International Day Against Homophobia.

Police also said they would carry out patrols to encourage victims to report hate crimes to officers.

It is the eighth year the Metropolitan Police has run the operation.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7414052.stm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:31:59 PM
I love that they feel the need to put homophobic in quotes....

'Homophobic' attack outside railway station
Wednesday, December 17, 2008, 10:55

A 72-year-old man was kicked in the chest in what police are describing as a homophobic attack.

The incident happened outside Frome railway station after a man and his friend left a train on December 8 at about 4pm.

Police said two men suspected of the assault were seen drinking and smoking on a train which had been travelling from Taunton before the incident occurred.

They departed at the same time as the victims and allegedly shouted homophobic abuse at the pair in Station Approach.

The man's friend was grabbed by the arm and when the 72-year-old used a stick to defend himself and his friend he was kicked in a karate-style manner. Their two assailants then ran off.

Police described the first attacker as in his 30s, of medium build and with two tattoos on his arm.

He was wearing a deerstalker-style cream woolly hat, a long-sleeved black Nike top and a white T-shirt.

The second man is about 30 years old, of medium build, and was wearing dark clothing. He had a short, back and sides hairstyle.

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Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:34:52 PM
UK girl suicided over homophobic bullying
Friday, 13 May 2005
Pupil suicide over homophobic bullying
Ben Townley
Gay.com UK
http://uk.gay.com/headlines/8531
13 May 2005

A schoolgirl has killed herself after suffering endless homophobic taunts, an inquest has ruled.

Laura Rhodes, 13, took an overdose after becoming depressed because of bullying she endured at school. According to press reports, Laura's mother said the taunts and insults were anti-gay. She said they were so bad that the pupil felt trapped.

"She was afraid to go to another school in case the same thing happened to her there," Sky reports her as telling the inquest.

"I think the things that the children said to her were mostly of a homophobic nature and she was afraid it would happen to her if she went to another school."

She added that Laura would often tell her that "life is not worth living".

Laura attended the Cefn Saeson Comprehensive School in Neath, South Wales. Her friend, unnamed because of legal reasons, also tried to kill herself because of the taunts.

After finding she had survived the attempt, she reportedly questioned Laura's mother as to why she was still alive.

The death comes as awareness of homophobia in schools continues to rise.

Recent research suggests lesbian and gay pupils are shunning further education because of the impact of homophobia during their school time.

Forty per cent say they fear anti-gay bullying will continue if they stay in education, while 75% of lesbian and gay pupils suggest they play truant to avoid school.

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http://galewa.asn.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=111&Itemid=2
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Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:36:56 PM
'Hate attack' then gay man was murdered
Published Date:  06 October 2006

The death of Malcolm Bryan last month sparked a murder investigation and today his partner, Martin Gray, spoke of the events of that fateful night for the first time.
And he paid tribute to Mr Bryan, a much-loved figure among Portsmouth's gay scene
who was known as 'Papa' because of the support he gave to men as they came out.
Mr Gray, 42, said the pair had been returning from a night out when they were confronted by a man.
Mr Bryan, 67, and Mr Gray were getting into a lift in Wimpole Court, Landport, Portsmouth, when the man began shouting homophobic abuse.
He said 'hello boys' and asked if they were going to show him a good time.
The man then punched Mr Gray in the nose.
Mr Gray said he and Mr Bryan climbed into the lift and fought to keep the man out as he tried to force his way in.
When they reached the third floor, Mr Gray said Mr Bryan walked on ahead, calling police on his mobile phone to report what had happened.
Unable to keep up because of a leg injury Mr Gray became separated.
But the next time he saw his partner he was lying at the bottom of concrete steps between the second and third floors of Wimpole Court and adjoining Crown Court, in Crown Street, where they lived. Mr Bryan had suffered terrible injuries and was dying.
Mr Gray said: 'Malcolm was on the phone to police to report the incident. I couldn't catch up because I had a bad leg.
'The next thing, Malcolm had disappeared. Then I just heard a thump.
'I found him at the bottom of the stairs.'
Mr Bryan had suffered a broken neck and broken rib and died in the stairwell just metres from his home.
Mr Gray, 42, said: 'The attack was anti-gay in my view.
'We didn't flaunt it when we were out. We could in our pubs but we didn't go down the street holding hands.'
Police said they had not ruled out Mr Bryan's death as being the result of a homophobic attack.

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/portsmouth/39Hate-attack39-then-gay-man.1809102.jp
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Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:40:10 PM
Mob attack on gay men in Northern Ireland
By Staff Writer, PinkNews.co.uk • September 15, 2008 - 13:54

A group of up to 12 men and women carried out a sustained attack on two men in County Londonderry that has been described as homophobic.

The mob struck early on Sunday morning as the men walked near the village of Maghera.

The gang verbally abused the men, chased them, assaulted them, then went to the home of one of the victims and attacked his mother.

There are less than 4,000 people in the village, but no arrests have been made and the police are appealing for witnesses.

The chair of the local policing partnership, Seán McPeake, told the Mid Ulster Mail:

"The message must go out loud and clear that such sickening homophobic attacks have no place in our society.

"Everyone regardless of class, creed, colour, nationality or sexuality have the right to live their lives with full dignity and in peace."

A previous homophobic attack in the province caused a major political storm when the DUP's Iris Robinson was asked to comment.

During a BBC Radio Ulster interview in June the MP for Strangford offered to introduce gay men to a "Christian psychiatrist" who could make them heterosexual.

She has refused to modify her position that homosexuality is vile, wicked and an abomination, based on her Biblical beliefs.

Northern Ireland's only health project for gay and bisexual men, Rainbow Project, said in July:

"The thugs that perpetrate hate will readily lap up whatever encouragement that they can find.

"It does not take much to inspire the misguided to violence; and the hatred spouted by some will add more fuel to the fires of prejudice and bigotry.

"Mrs Robinson is playing with people's lives; we hope and pray that the end result is not more prejudice, blighted lives or even bloodshed."

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-8999.html
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Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:43:34 PM
Officers' homophobia hampered murder investigations, says review
Hugh Muir
The Guardian, Tuesday 15 May 2007

Scotland Yard's reaction to killings and attacks on gay, lesbian and transsexual people has historically been blighted by "institutional" homophobia, according to a report. A review of how detectives handled 10 murders of gay men or transsexuals says that in some cases inquiries were hampered by lack of knowledge, reliance on unfounded stereotypes and personal prejudices. Of the cases examined in a process sanctioned by the Met, four remain unsolved.

The report, written by the independent Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Advisory Group, says the problems were mirrored and in many cases exacerbated by coverage in the mainstream media.

The work is seen as so important by the Met that those involved are today expected to be commended. Some feel the research is equivalent to the Met's re-evaluation of how it dealt with racist crime after the Macpherson report on the racist murder of Stephen Lawrence.

The review recognises that Scotland Yard has substantially improved its dealings with gay, lesbian and transsexual communities and its investigative processes since the 1990s. But the authors warn that more radical steps are needed.

Their report calls for better intelligence procedures to track known and potentially violent homophobes and to better safeguard places used by such communities. They also call for a more effective system for warning people when particular sites become dangerous. While applauding the extent to which detectives have become more sensitive, they also call for a more coherent strategy.

The report says: "If we borrow the terminology of the Macpherson report, historical police practice amounted to 'institutional' homophobia and transphobia."

It adds: "There were several investigations where we have deep reservations about the way in which the identity of the victim informed investigative decisions at the time. We also found evidence of inappropriate attitudes to the circumstances of some murders."

Among the cases examined were five murders in 1993 by Colin Ireland, who attacked gay men he met in a pub. The review finds that the inquiry was "hampered by a lack of knowledge of the gay scene in London and the special culture of S&M bondage. In particular, valuable time was lost before the police managed to recognise two common threads to the crimes. These links were established only after the death of the fourth victim."

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/may/15/gayrights.ukcrime
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Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:47:03 PM
WAS BARMAN KILLED BY SERIAL GAY BASHERS?
By Paul Gallagher 17/10/2005

Hunt for killers who screamed abuse

POLICE fear two men who beat a barman to death as they yelled homophobic abuse may be members of a gay-bashing gang.

Officers believe the killers of Jody Dobrowski, 24, could be responsible for a series of violent attacks.

The attackers are believed to have pummelled 6ft 4in Jody to death with their bare hands at a wooded area frequented by gays.

Labour MP Ron Davies resigned as Welsh Secretary in 1998 following an alleged sexual encounter at the spot.

Det Chief Insp Nick Scola, leading the hunt, said yesterday: "Jody Dobrowski was the victim of a sustained and violent attack. His postmortem revealed he died from severe head, neck and facial injuries.

"Officers used to dealing with violence were left shocked. There is no obvious use of a weapon.

"Robbery is one motive we are considering but we are keeping an open mind whether these men are responsible for previous attacks."

Bob Hodgson, who advises the Metropolitan Police on homophobic attacks, said: "We need to catch these men. If they do this to a man they think is gay, there's a good chance they will do it to someone else."

Appealing for anyone in the area at the time to come forward, he added: "Police are not interested in what you may or may not have been doing but want to catch those responsible.

"These men need locking up before they do this again."

Jody died in woodland on Clapham Common, South London, early on Saturday. Passers-by heard his killers screaming gay insults at him as they beat him to death.

Police believe up to 10 people may have been in the wooded area between 11pm on Friday and 1am.

Officers were called to the Common around midnight. Jody's bloodied body was discovered and police helicopters were sent up to hunt for the killers.

Two suspects are described as being aged about 20.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2005/10/17/was-barman-killed-by-serial-gay-bashers-115875-16257359/
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Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:49:01 PM
Picture released of Woolwich murder victim
5:04pm Friday 21st November 2008

 THIS is the first picture of 28-year-old David Cooper who was murdered in Woolwich on Wednesday (November 19) in what police believe may have been a homophobic attack.

Police were called to Sir Martin Bowes House, Calderwood Street, at around 2pm after two friends of Mr Cooper reported finding his body.

An ambulance was called to Mr Cooper’s home but he was pronounced dead at the scene.

Detectives are keen to hear from anyone who saw Mr Cooper on Tuesday night through to the early hours of Wednesday morning.

An incident room has opened in Lewisham under Detective Chief Inspector Clive Heys.

Mr Heys said: “David was viciously assaulted and suffered serious head injuries.

“At present we are investigating the possibility that David has died as the result of a homophobic attack. But it should be stressed that we retain an open mind regarding its motive.”

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http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/3868567.Update__Woolwich_murder_may_have_been_homophobic_attack/
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Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:51:40 PM
Scissor Sisters singer hits out at homophobic attack
NME.COM
Thursday, 8 January 2009

Scissor Sisters singer Ana Matronic has spoken out against the "lenient" sentence given to a gang who carried out a homophobic attack on two British friends.

Nina Meffen and Carol Cashmore were attacked by two teenage girls and a man in Southampton in July last year, leaving Meffen requiring reconstructive surgery.

Although the two 18 year olds pleaded guilty to the charge of affray, all three attackers escaped a prison sentence.

Ana Matronic met Cashmore at Glastonbury Festival in 2004 and the two have remained in regular contact since then.

Speaking to the Southern Daily Echo newspaper, Matronic condemned the attack saying: "I am really horrified and disgusted that, in particular, the one person who instigated this attack did not get sent to jail."

She added: "She seems like a true menace and someone who is quite capable of doing this type of thing again."

http://www.nme.com/news/scissor-sisters/31219
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Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:54:16 PM
Exclusive: Gay hate crimes treble across Scotland
Oct 20 2008  By Stephen Stewart

HATE crimes against gays have more than trebled across Scotland, a Daily Record investigation has revealed.

Our probe showed a horrifying rise in reports of violent attacks, abuse and vandalism against people targeted just because of their sexuality.

It also uncovered shocking differences in the way such crimes are recorded - with one force admitting they do not hold information on homophobic crime.

The picture of rocketing hate crime is in stark contrast to claims that Scotland is becoming more cosmopolitan and diverse.

In Strathclyde, reported incidents of homophobic crime have soared from just 50 cases three years ago to 216 this year.

In Lothian and Borders, crimes against people because of their sexual orientation - including assault and vandalism - jumped by more than 60 per cent, from 45 in 2005 to 76 this year.

Crimes against lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people rose in Central Scotland from just five three years ago to 16 this year.

In Grampian, there were 14 homophobic crimes in 2005 but this soared to 53 in 2007-8.

Tayside Police said that they did not hold relevant information on hate crime as the force do not record the sexuality or transgender status of victims of crime.

Jason - not his real name - stays in Glasgow and said that he has suffered abuse and been spat at because of his sexual orientation.

He said: "We may be in the 21st century but being gay still makes you a target in some places.

"I am not surprised that hate crime has been rising. It is just the tip of the iceberg though because I know lots of people won't even bother going to the police.

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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2008/10/20/exclusive-gay-hate-crimes-treble-across-scotland-86908-20820634/
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Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 01:56:56 PM
Gay couple is 'being forced out'
 8 February 2008

An elderly gay couple living in the Creggan area of Londonderry say they may be forced to leave because of ongoing homophobic attacks.

In the latest incident, a gang threatened to burn the couple - one of whom is disabled - out of their home.

David McCartney, manager of the Rainbow Project, said it had reached "the stage where these two men feel they have to speak out".

"And it's quite a courageous thing for them to do," he said.

"The stuff that's been happening to them has been quite severe - windows put in, their front door kicked in, their car damaged..."

The Rainbow Project is a support group for gay and bisexual men in Northern Ireland.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/7234009.stm
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Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 02:00:06 PM
Police appeal for attack witnesses
Published Date:  23 July 2008

POLICE are appealing for information after a man was assaulted outside a popular bar in what is believed to be a homophobic attack.

The 33-year-old had been drinking with friends in Changes bar, York Road, Hartlepool, when he left around midnight.

The man, who has not been named but is from Hartlepool, was set upon and attacked outside the bar and he was left with facial injuries.

Following the attack, the man was unconscious for a short time and suffering from concussion, say police. He went to hospital of his own accord.

It is believed the man was attacked by one person outside the town centre bar.

A Cleveland Police spokesman for said: "Police believe that this was a homophobic incident and want anyone with information to contact PC Mark Doherty.

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/Police-appeal-for-witnesses.4317375.jp
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 02:02:43 PM
The 17-stone ex-boxer who beat up teen because he was ‘gay’
Dec 24 2008  by Kevin Core, Liverpool Echo

A 17-STONE ex-boxer has admitted a homophobic attack on a 14-year-old boy who confided he might be gay.

Wirral magistrates heard Stephen Hope, 40, of Hull, only stopped his attack when he was slashed across the arm by the boy’s mother, who had panicked and grabbed a kitchen knife.

The thick-set former drug user had befriended the woman four months prior to the attack on August 13.

The court heard how having originally listened to the youth confide he might be homosexual, Hope grew increasingly angry, saying he was driving a wedge between him and his mother.

Bernice Campbell, prosecuting, said the mother returned home to hear raised voices and swearing, with Hope shouting “you p***k, you faggot”.

She said: “He was stood over the complainant and kneed him in the stomach before punching him seven times.

“The mother grabbed a carving knife and got herself between the two and cut him on the arm.

“Police later arrested the defendant at the YMCA.”

The court heard the boy was left with red marks after the attack and during interview Hope admitted making homophobic comments.

A victim impact statement from the boy read: “I lost sleep because I was replaying the incident in my mind and I was annoyed for not standing up for myself.

“I decided not to let Steve speak to me this way.

“I always double lock the doors and worry Steve might be out to get me.”

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http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2008/12/24/the-17-stone-ex-boxer-who-beat-up-teen-because-he-was-gay-100252-22542982/
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 02:06:07 PM
MP reacts to homophobic assualt by suggesting "ex-gay" therapy for victim
By Tony Grew • June 6, 2008 - 15:11

The wife of the First Minister of Northern Ireland has caused controversy with her born-again Christian outlook on life.

Iris Robinson is MP for Strangford and chairs the Northern Ireland Assembly's health committee.

Reacting to news that a man was viciously attacked because he is gay, she suggested that he should consider therapy to "cure" him of his homosexuality.

Speaking on BBC Radio Ulster today she condemned the attack on Stephen Scott but added:

"I have a very lovely psychiatrist who works with me in my offices and his Christian background is that he tries to help homosexuals trying to turn away from what they are engaged in.

"And I have met people who have turned around to become heterosexual."

Mrs Robinson's view of gay and lesbian people is well-known. Last month she castigated MPs in the House of Commons during debate on fertility treatments.

MPs decided to remove the requirement on doctors to consider the need for a father when assessing women for fertility treatments.

"Envisage, down the road, a child going to primary school and being collected by two females or two males, and the bullying and abuse to which those children will be exposed; or going into their parents’ bedroom, as is natural for a child to do, and finding two women or two men making love?" said Mrs Robinson.

Sinn Fein, who are in coalition government with Mrs Robinson's DUP, warned against saying anything to enflame the situation.

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http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7858.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 02:09:28 PM
Homophobic attack in Plumstead

Police are appealing for information related to a homophobic assault that occurred on the 23 September 2008 at about 02:00 hours in Griffin Road junction Orchard Road, Plumstead, SE18.

The victim was drinking in the Lord Derby Public house when he noticed the suspect.

The victim left the pub and walked to the bus stop in Orchard Road, where the suspect approached him and was verbally abusive, making homophobic remarks. The suspect pulled the victim to the ground and kicked him, breaking his collarbone.

The suspect is described as a white male, approximately 5'6", with short brown hair, average build, possibly in his mid thirties and has a London accent. He was wearing blue jeans and a blue T-shirt.

The victim was carrying a cello in a red case at the time of the assault.

http://cms.met.police.uk/met/boroughs/greenwich/04how_are_we_doing/appeals/homophobic_attack_in_plumstead
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 02:13:41 PM
Homophobic arson attack victim tells of his pain
10:41am Wednesday 20th February 2008
By Kirsty Whalley

The victim of Sonny Lockwood's homophobic arson attack has spoken out about how the hate crime caused him and his partner to suffer nervous breakdowns and almost lose their home.

Nicholas Hughes, 42, and his partner of 16 years Peter Cameron, 59, suffered years of "horrendous" verbal homophobic abuse from Sonny Lockwood and members of his gang before he set their house in North Downs Crescent, New Addington, on fire.

Lockwood, 20, was under the conditions of a two-year Asbo and was banned from entering Fieldway and New Addington when he poured petrol through the letter box on the door of the couple's home.

Mr Hughes said that at first he was not affected by the incident and went into "witness mode" doing as much as he could to help the police. However, two weeks after it happened he had a breakdown and was prescribed anti- depressants.

Five weeks into his course, his partner had a nervous breakdown. "I felt that both of us could not be on the anti-depressants and off work at the same time," he said. "We could not afford it. I took myself off the anti-depressants to help him cope." He said that Mr Cameron was still on medication.

"The upshot of all this is that we nearly lost our house. We fell behind on the mortgage because of the lack of support from insurance," Mr Hughes said. "These are the aspects that do need to be highlighted. Victims of crime are not necessarily bad debtors but you become one if you fall behind."

Now that Lockwood has been sentenced Mr Hughes said that he is going to go through a programme of psychotherapy. "It's time for me to move on, time for me to evaluate and learn to enjoy life again. We are both vulnerable but Peter is doing very well," he added.

Mr Hughes said Lockwood's 10 year jail sentence "was probably fair" and that people often asked him if he had forgiven him. He said: "For forgiveness to be earned there must be remorse shown. I saw no remorse from any of the Lockwood family."

http://www.wimbledonguardian.co.uk/news/2058577.homophobic_arson_attack_victim_tells_of_his_pain/
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 02:18:14 PM
Gay attack victim has been left paralysed, court told
02 October 2008

A 15-YEAR-OLD has appeared in court charged with a "serious homophobic attack" on a gay man who has been left permanently paralysed from the waist down.

The teenager, who can not be named for legal reasons, spoke only to confirm his name and East Ham address at Thames Youth Court in Bow yesterday.

Dressed in a white hooded top and dark jeans, the Asian youth at one point held his head in his hands.

Police had earlier charged him with homophobic aggravated assault with intent, occasioning grievous bodily harm.

Magistrates refused an application for bail by his lawyers and he was remanded in custody until his next appearance at a crown court.

The court was told that the youth was one of a group who had left a 21-year-old gay man critically ill in hospital after an alleged attack outside the George and Dragon in Hackney Road near the Boundary estate in Bethnal Green on August 28.

The victim underwent surgery on his brain and lungs, prosecutors said.

The court head that his spinal chord was stabbed, leaving him permanently paralysed from the waist down.

Police have made several other arrests in connection with the incident and are still appealing for witnesses to come forward.

http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/content/towerhamlets/advertiser/news/story.aspx?brand=ELAOnline&category=news&tBrand=northlondon24&tCategory=newsela&itemid=WeED02%20Oct%202008%2010%3A10%3A34%3A917
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 02:25:03 PM
Homophobic murderer jailed for life
12 Dec 2008

A man who murdered an accountant in a homophobic attack has been jailed for life.

Mark Malone, 30, was told he would serve a minimum term of 30 years for killing Jeff Akers.

Malone stabbed Mr Akers in a public toilet in Walton-on-Thames, Surrey, in February this year and had previously attacked another man in the same place.

Judge David Paget told him: "I am satisfied that you went there looking for someone gay to attack. You clearly have a hatred of homosexuals."

Malone, a married father of two, of Clement Road, Walton-on-Thames, was found guilty of murder by a jury last month.

Mr Akers, 50, originally from Barry, south Wales, lived with his partner Mike Drew in Wallington, Surrey. They had been together 22 years.

The judge told Malone: "You murdered him in a particularly savage way, stabbing him in the back with a carving knife with such force that it completely severed the eighth rib and punctured his right lung.

"The knife went into his back up to the hilt. The knife had an eight-inch blade. You did this simply because he was gay.

"I am satisfied that you took that knife and went into those public lavatories looking for someone you thought was gay to stab."

The court heard that Malone, who used to go fishing nearby, had stolen the knife from a burger van before making his way to the toilets, knife in hand and looking to one witness as if he was "on a mission".

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http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/uk/homophobic+murderer+jailed+for+life/2882472
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 02:28:56 PM
Murder on the common
Yob culture claims another innocent victim
From The Times
October 18, 2005

Homophobia is as intolerant and dangerous as racism. It is wholly arbitrary in picking on people who often offer no provocation or motive except to stir atavistic prejudice. It sometimes ends in murder. Last month two men attempted to strangle a gay man on Clapham Common, and another was assaulted by three men three weeks ago. To their credit, the police take these crimes seriously, and in this latest case have appealed for witnesses as well as liaising with gay rights groups to step up public vigilance. But they have also been criticised for being slow to warn potential victims and for not tackling the gangs from which assailants come.

The dangers of cruising for casual sexual contact are obvious, and have been given considerable publicity since Ron Davies’s “moment of madness” on Clapham Common in 1999 when he was Welsh Secretary. Gay people should certainly not run unnecessary risk, and this is a message that should be repeated in gay clubs, bars and meeting places across the country. But that is not the point. Nobody should be in fear of his life simply because he or she appears to give off signals that blinkered bigots find offensive. What needs to be tackled is the prejudice that perceives gay behaviour as a legitimate excuse for violence.

It also seems that Mr Dobrowski may well have been fatally kicked during the assault. This newspaper has previously argued that such attacks by kicking should be treated as if it was assault with a deadly weapon. Kicking a person when he or she is on the ground is an act devoid of humanity, but does not yet attract the penalties that such callousness deserves. Knives and guns may well be better regulated, but until the culture of kicking is confronted, Britain will watch as far too many of its citizens are maimed or murdered on its streets.

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/leading_article/article579578.ece
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 02:31:48 PM
HIV sufferer is beaten up in Brighton
3:38pm Tuesday 23rd September 2008
By Ben Parsons, Crime Reporter

 One of the Britain’s long surviving HIV sufferers has been brutally beaten up in a random attack.

John Percy, of Grand Parade, Brighton, was attacked in Camelford Street, Kemp Town, Brighton, at about 9pm on Monday.

The 48-year-old was punched to the floor, repeatedly kicked in the ribs, legs and head before the two attackers ran off.

He staggered to Legends bar in Marine Parade where he was taken by ambulance to the Royal Sussex County Hospital for treatment.

Mr Percy, who was diagnosed with HIV in 1981, said: “I went into the internet cafe at the top of St James’s Street to pick up a Friday Ad.

"There was a man outside being rowdy and shouting obscenities at the women inside and passing in the street.

"When I left I rounded the corner and the man and his friend ran up behind me, punched me to the floor and then battered me.

"If they had kicked me in the left side of my head they would have probably killed me because I had metal clips fitted after a brain haemorrhage in 1996.”

Mr Percy said he did not know whether it was a homophobic attack but that he is leaving Brighton because he is concerned about the number of gays being targeted.

He said: “I’ve been forced out of Brighton because of the amount of abuse I’ve had.

"I have been frightened to leave my home at night for a while because of the attacks on gay people.”

One of the attackers is described as wearing a black top and the other man was wearing a white top.

On August 29, two thugs attacked two gay men on the corner of St George’s Road and Abbey Road, Kemp Town, breaking one man’s jaw and stealing their bank cards.

In May, a gang of teenage boys shouted homophobic abuse at a man before punching him to the ground, kicking him and then spitting at him.

And last week, traders complained about homeless people shouting abuse at their workers and customers.

Brighton and Hove city councillor Ben Duncan, who represents the area, said: “It’s absolutely appalling there has been another attack.

“It seems to be happening more frequently. But it isn’t unique to the St James’s Street area.”

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/3696685.HIV_sufferer_is_beaten_up_in_Brighton/
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 02:40:10 PM
Teen gets 16 years for homophobic murder
By Auslan Cramb, Scottish Correspondent
Last Updated: 1:50AM GMT 14 Nov 2007

A teenager who murdered a gay council worker in a homophobic attack in a public park has been jailed for life.

David Meehan, 19, was ordered to serve at least 16 years for his part in the "savage" attack on James Kerr, 51.

His accomplice Martin Soutar, 21, pleaded guilty to culpable homicide and was jailed for nine years, and a 15-year-old schoolboy, who cannot be named for legal reasons, will be sentenced today.

The youth sparked the attack on the South Inch in Perth and admitted assaulting the victim by punching him in the face and knocking him to the ground.

Lord Macphail, at the High Court in Edinburgh, told Meehan: "This was a killing of a callous and brutal character which appears to have been marked by a homophobic element. This was a savage and sustained attack on a defenceless man who had done you no harm."

The judge added Meehan was "liable to be detained for life" and would have faced a minimum 18-year term had he not pleaded guilty.

The court heard earlier that Mr Kerr, a civic officer with Perth and Kinross council, was in the park in the early hours of April 22 when the boy was taking a shortcut home. A witness heard the boy threatening him before using his mobile phone to call Soutar, claiming that he had been assaulted.

Meehan and Soutar, both from Perth, were given a lift to the park and met up with the 15-year-old before attacking Mr Kerr.

The schoolboy punched him in the face in an unprovoked attack and Meehan and Soutar punched and kicked him on the head and body as he lay on the ground.

They left him bleeding heavily from a head wound and went to a house in Craigie where they boasted about the incident.

As they left the park the schoolboy was heard saying that he hated "gays and poofters".

A woman walking her dog found Mr Kerr later that morning but he died in hospital without regaining consciousness. His blood was found on training shoes worn by Meehan and Soutar.

Jack Davidson, QC, for Meehan, said he had expressed remorse and maintained that no homophobic motive was involved in the offence.

Mhairi Richards, defending the schoolboy, said he had "made it plain the deceased made no sexual approach to him".

The court heard that Soutar had been drinking and had taken "two or three kicks" before stopping.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1569200/Teen-gets-16-years-for-homophobic-murder.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 02:49:19 PM
You'll want to read to the end of this one to get to the gay bashing related material.  Much like in Scotland, the rates of gay bashing in Northern Ireland are on the rise:

Lesbian couple are first gay union in U.K.
Posted 12/19/2005 9:19 AM     Updated 12/19/2005 10:20 AM

BELFAST, Northern Ireland (AP) — The United Kingdom's first gay couple to win legal recognition under a new civil partnership law drove past protesters Monday to make their vows inside Belfast City Hall.

Grainne Close of Northern Ireland and her American partner, Shannon Sickels, walked hand-in-hand from a black taxi for a 20-minute ceremony that featured an exchange of matching platinum and diamond rings and a recording of Dolly Parton's Touch Your Woman.

"We just want to say that this is a very privileged position we are in this morning, and for us this is about making a choice," said Close, 32, who wore a black suit with a white scarf.

"This is about making a choice to have our civil rights acknowledged and respected and protected, and we could not be here without the hard work of many queer activists and many individuals from the queer community," said Sickels, a 27-year-old playwright from New York, who wore a white trouser suit.

Some of their approximately 70 guests, walking through city hall's wrought-iron gates, brushed off point-blank insults from Christian evangelists.

"You need to turn yourself away from your sinful lifestyle. You're an abomination before God," a Scottish preacher, the Rev. James Dawson, told one lesbian couple walking past.

"You would be so lucky to have this lady, love. I'll see you at the gates of heaven, mate," retorted Belfast woman Brenda Murphy, walking beside her partner, Nuala Quiery.

After the ceremony, Close and Sickels walked up to camera crews and proudly displayed the rings on their fingers before being driven away.

Three homosexual couples — one male and two female — were scheduled to sign the civil partnership register Monday in Belfast City Hall. The new law, which already exists in several other European countries, grants gay couples the same property and inheritance rights as married heterosexual couples.

The law went into effect in Northern Ireland one day before Scotland and two days before England and Wales, where more than 600 gay couples plan to gain legal recognition of their relationships Wednesday.

Northern Ireland in 1982 became the last part of the United Kingdom to legalize homosexuality. The province's considerable gay community frequently complains of intimidation and harassment in both Irish Catholic and British Protestant areas.

In its most recent report on the problem, the Police Service of Northern Ireland in May said the number of reported homophobic attacks in this territory of 1.7 million was escalating. It said crimes involving an anti-gay motive rose to 196, compared with 71 in 2003-04 and 35 in 2002-03.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-12-19-uk-unions_x.htm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 02:51:02 PM
GAY MAN BLINDED IN YOUTH ATTACK AT MANOR ROAD BRIDGE
Published Date:  05 August 2008

A 21-YEAR-OLD man was left unconscious after being kicked by youths in what he claims was an unprovoked and homophobic attack.
The victim, who was too frightened to give his name for fear of further attacks, said he had been left blinded in his left eye after suffering a fractured socket. Opticians were as yet unable to say whether his sight would return.

The attack by seven youths happened while he was walking along the old Scarborough to Whitby railway line with his 55-year-old father. The victim said: "I was walking under the bridge when I was punched to the side of the head.

Then I was punched and kicked like a football. "I didn't say anything to them. It was an unprovoked, homophobic, attack. That's the second one because my mate was attacked there but didn't report it."

He added the gang shouted explicitly abusive comments about his sexuality, threatened to kill him and also attacked his father. The victim managed to stagger to Prospect Road before collapsing.

While waiting to be taken to hospital by ambulance, he heard one of the yobs saying he had "got what he deserved".

The still shocked victim added: "I have lived here all my life. They are just louts who can't hold their drink. They were off their faces on drink and drugs."

The attack came just days after 69- year-old Archie Hannah was attacked near the junction of Manor Road and Dean Road.

Two weeks ago a 67-year-old woman was attacked by yobs who stole her bag at Manor Road bridge. A Scarborough Police spokeswoman said investigations were ongoing.

She said: "Take care at night and do not walk alone in badly lit areas."

http://www.scarborougheveningnews.co.uk/news/GAY-MAN-BLINDED-IN-YOUTH.4357467.jp
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 02:53:32 PM
Gay fears rise after street gang’s murderous attack
04 September 2008

THE East End’s gay community has declared ‘enough is enough’ after a young man was left fighting for his life following a brutal homophobic stabbing by a gang of youths.

A 20-year-old, known as Olly, was stabbed seven times in the back and chest, outside a gay-friendly pub this week.

He remains in a critical condition in hospital and police have launched an attempted murder investigation.

Both Bethnal Green and Bow MP George Galloway and Abjol Miah, the leader of the Respect group at Tower Hamlets council, have called for all communities to condemn last week’s attack in Boundary Street.

With 47 homophobic attacks in Tower Hamlets over the last 12 months, one man called the Advertiser to say: “It’s time we stood up for ourselves. I’m fed up with people almost excusing this kind of violence.”

Police have branded last Thursday’s assault as “evil” and are treating it as homophobic. Cops believe the 20-year-old had been walking to the gay-friendly George and Dragon pub in Hackney Road with a woman when he was attacked at the junction of Boundary Street and Austin Street in Shoreditch onThursday.

He was hounded by a group of around five teenage boys, hit over the head with a glass bottle then stabbed seven times in the back and chest. He underwent life-saving surgery at Whitechapel’s Royal London Hospital on Friday morning.

The stabbing is also being linked to an assault in the same area 24 hours before in which a man and woman were both attacked and were kicked and punched by a group of youths.

Det Insp Howard Way, of Tower Hamlets police, condemned the attack as “evil”, but although it was being treated as a homophobic crime, he was keeping an open mind about motive.

Three men have been arrested, but police refused to give any details about their backgrounds.

MP George Galloway said: “This is a sickening and vile assault that I am sure will unite the diverse community of Tower Hamlets in condemnation. “A near fatal knife attack by a group of people on a defenceless man is horrific enough. The fact that this also appears to be a homophobic hate crime compounds the evil.

“There is a rich and tolerant mix in Tower Hamlets. It’s one of the good things about our borough, and I am determined to keep it that way. Everyone needs to accept that people are different.”

His Respect colleague Cllr Miah added: “There is no justification, in any language or any belief, for savagely setting upon a young man like this.” The gay community has grown in Bethnal Green and Shoreditch over recent years and Alan Booth, 45, who lives in Columbia Road, said it was time to fight back against homophobic violence.

He said: “It has just got worse and worse around here—it’s left people frightened to go out. The problem is with a minority of Bengali youth: but that minority is significant.

“Just because we’re gay doesn’t mean we aren’t men. It’s time we stood up for ourselves. I’m fed up with people excusing this kind of violence and the gay community are as guilty as anyone else in that.

“It’s time we got some intelligent, sensible people together to discuss what we can do to make it safer for the gay community and for everyone in Shoreditch.”

The three men arrested in connection with the attack have since been released on police bail.

http://www.eastlondonadvertiser.co.uk/content/towerhamlets/advertiser/news/story.aspx?brand=ELAOnline&category=news&tBrand=northlondon24&tCategory=newsela&itemid=WeED03%20Sep%202008%2020%3A44%3A41%3A983
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 02:59:54 PM
Mother admits abusing 16-year-old son for being gay
By Staff Writer, PinkNews.co.uk • December 24, 2008 - 13:21

A woman in Scotland has admitted in court that she sent homophobic text messages and shouted abuse at her own child because he is gay.

42-year-old Celia Duncan, from Aberdeen, had previously thrown her 16-year-old son Stuart O'Neill out of the family home.

She will be sentenced next year.

Duncan shouted abuse at her son when she saw him walking with his boyfriend and sent the texts when he would not speak to her.

Stuart, who lives with his boyfriend, told the Daily Record:

"I feel really hurt by what my mum has done.

"She doesn't like the fact that I'm gay.

"About six months ago, she told me to stop it or get out of the house.

"She's betrayed me. What she said was vile and hurtful."

http://www.pinknews.org/news/articles/2005-10065.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: chapeaugris on January 08, 2009, 03:03:38 PM
Yikes. Chris is going to feel like crawling back into bed when she reads all these tomorrow morning, Michael...
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 03:13:54 PM
Yikes. Chris is going to feel like crawling back into bed when she reads all these tomorrow morning, Michael...

Sorry!  :">

Actually, the only reason I know about this sort of thing is because I search for it.  In the UK, much as in the US (or anywhere else, I suspect) these stories don't make it into the 'above ground' press much - and those that do are relegated to the back pages.  My point would be that even a well informed, intelligent person can be unaware that this sort of thing goes on - in the UK, in France, in the Netherlands, in Australia - as well as in the places we might expect (like the U.S. and Islamic countries).

I've included articles here from England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland - and attacks on lesbians as well as gay men - as well as attacks from older people, teens, Bengalis, West Indians, people of Irish ancestry and plain old Brits - attacks by people drunk and sober, on people in trains and in their homes - arsons, beatings, knifings, etc.

It's worth knowing about, imho.  Knowledge is power, after all.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 03:16:11 PM
One more...(as it's from Oxford - where you would think people would know better) then I'll quit.

Crackdown on gay hate crime
8:55am Monday 26th February 2007

A pub landlord hopes more people in the gay community will report homophobic abuse to the police following a drive to encourage people to speak out.

Police and members of the Terence Higgins Trust and the Homophobia Awareness Liaison Team visited the Castle Tavern and the Jolly Farmer pubs in Oxford on Friday to spread the message that any reports of homophobic attacks would be taken seriously.

Both pubs are popular with members of the gay community.

There were 25 homophobic crimes reported to police between June last year and last Friday.

However, police believe many more verbal and physical attacks may be taking place.

Neil Ritchie, landlord of both pubs, said he reported homophobic abuse to the police about twice a month.

He said: "I wanted the police to come in and talk to people, mainly my younger customer base.

"I wanted the police to give them confidence to feel that any reports to the police will be dealt with in confidence - and that the police will do something about it."

He added: "We get verbal abuse all the time aimed at the pub.

"Last year someone smashed our windows in with a steel bar.

"Most of the abuse we get is mindless name-calling, but it is scary for an 18-year-old who is just coming to terms with his sexuality."

Josh Hall, a gay man's sexual health worker with the sexual health charity, Terrence Higgins Trust, based in Pembroke Street, also went out with the police to visit the two Oxford pubs.

He said: "I think the number of homophobic incidents reported does not represent the number that actually take place.

"It goes on on a daily basis and unfortunately people don't go to the police to report being called a name."

Pc Chris Griffin, who works to tackle hate crime in Oxford, said he spoke to about 40 people on Friday, and described the evening as a success.

He said: "It went very well. It was well responded to and well received.

"There is an unawareness of what a homophobic crime is.

"People are receiving all these insults and do not think they should be reported."

http://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/1218096.crackdown_on_gay_hate_crime/
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 08, 2009, 07:11:35 PM
And back in the states [in the state I'm originally from, Michigan]:

Appeals court sends student harassment case back for trial
Posted on: January 8, 2009 9:16 AM, by Ed Brayton

A 6th Circuit Court of Appeals panel has ruled in favor of a student who claims that officials at Hudson middle school in Southeast Michigan were deliberately indifferent and failed to take any action to stop systemic harassment from other students - and even from at least one teacher.

The appeals court ruling does not settle the case, it merely remands it back to the district court for a full trial. The district court had granted summary judgment to the school, avoiding a full trial. The student's attorneys appealed, arguing that the district court had erred in concluding that the school was not intentionally ignoring the harassment problem; the appeals court agreed and has ordered the district court to hold a full trial on the matter.

The facts in the case, as stated in the appeals court ruling, are quite disturbing. The student, who is referred to in the ruling only by his initials, DP, was apparently the victim of constant harassment from his classmates beginning in the sixth grade, including frequent taunts of "queer" and "faggot" aimed at him. And in at least one incident cited by the court, a teacher joined in on the abuse:

    On one occasion, DP attempted to stop a female classmate, BC, from tormenting another student. In response, BC slapped DP. Though, upon learning about the incident, band teacher Crystal Bough, told DP she "w[ould] take care of it," the Pattersons were never contacted by the school, nor did Ms. Bough report the incident to the principal. The Pattersons learned from DP that he had been assaulted at school. This incident led to further teasing, including teasing from geography teacher John Redding, who asked DP later that same day in front of a full class of students: "[H]ow does it feel to be hit by a girl[?]" The class laughed at DP.

The harassment from his fellow students came in many forms, most of them anti-gay slurs and references to "Mr. Clean," apparently referring to the student's lack of pubic hair. The bullying was not merely verbal, however:

    In March 2005, unknown students broke into DP's gym locker, removed his clothes and urinated on them, and threw his tennis shoes in the toilet. The locker was also "covered with shaving cream spelling out sexually oriented words." Later that spring, two students, KM and JL, hung a "Mr. Clean" poster on DP's locker in the main hallway...

    At some point after the "Mr. Clean" incident, DP's locker in the main hallway was vandalized by unknown students. These students used permanent markers and wrote words such as "gay," "faggot," and "queer" up and down the locker. Additionally, a picture of a penis being inserted into a rectum was drawn on the locker. The inside of the locker was also defaced with various derogatory phrases, such as "suck your mother's tits" and "you suck dicks."

And it even went so far as actual sexual assault:

    The final incident of harassment occurred in late May 2005. After Friday night junior-varsity baseball practice, DP was sexually assaulted by a fellow teammate, LP, in the locker room. LP stripped naked, forced DP into a corner, jumped on DP's shoulders, and rubbed his penis and scrotum on DP's neck and face. While the assault was occurring, another student, NH, blocked the exit so DP could not escape.

While the student was expelled for this and brought up on charges for the assault, the ruling reports that the baseball coach held a team meeting with DP present at which he told the students that they should "not joke around with guys who can't take a man joke."

The victim is so scarred by all of this that he can no longer set foot inside the school without panic attacks. The case will now go back to the district court for a full trial on whether the school "failed to implement and enforce meaningful procedures to ensure compliance with federal law and the policies of [Hudson] and failed to ensure the proper education and training of staff as to harassment issues."

continues:

http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2009/01/appeals_court_sends_student_ha.php
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on January 08, 2009, 10:00:42 PM
chiming in with what michael said, it is easy to miss if you aren't looking for it.  i read upwards of 10 gay news sources a day, from all over the world, as well as a number of major news aggregating sites.  this is why i am in a state of perpetual idignation.  i don't know which is worse, the fact that we are open season, or that in some ways there appears to be a bounty for our lives.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: chapeaugris on January 09, 2009, 04:52:39 AM
I'm glad that he posted all those. If you're not a member of a persecuted minority it's easy to believe things are not so bad for that group if you don't pay close attention to the news. Because you're not going to experience anything negative yourself just walking down the street.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 09, 2009, 10:47:36 AM
I'm glad that he posted all those. If you're not a member of a persecuted minority it's easy to believe things are not so bad for that group if you don't pay close attention to the news. Because you're not going to experience anything negative yourself just walking down the street.

If you notice some of the things I posted are the actual listings from the British police [which is good - but not the kind of thing that gets lots of p.r. or distribution, I'd guess].

Otherwise these stories are the kind that are considered 'small' stories in the press - a boxer in Liverpool attacks a kid, an older gay man in Brighton is attacked, a mother in Scotland harasses her son - not exactly the kind of thing that rises to the level of the war in Iraq or the battles between Hamas and Israel or the shutoff of gas through Ukraine in the press.

So unless you know about this from direct experience you're not going to believe it happens.  Of course it happens over here too - there are people who don't believe this sort of thing goes on any longer because they don't hear about it in the press.  There's a tendency that victims of this sort of crime have to not talk about the cases as well.  And if there isn't press coverage, you don't think it happens.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: estefue on January 09, 2009, 12:13:09 PM
Thanks Michael for keeping our eyes open.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 09, 2009, 06:57:41 PM
Thanks Michael for keeping our eyes open.

You bet.  I don't monitor any papers as such, but I did what I would normally do when I approached this as a reference question and did a search on google for 'homophobia UK bashing' and got many of those articles...here's another:

Homophobic killers jailed as gay-hate crimes soar
 By Nigel Morris, Home Affairs Correspondent, and and Genevieve Roberts
Saturday, 17 June 2006

 Two men who punched and kicked a gay barman to death as if they were " trying to kill an animal" were jailed for a minimum of 28 years yesterday.

The sentencing came as it emerged that the number gay-hate crime cases being dealt with by the courts almost doubled in the past year, to 600 investigations. But campaigners warn that the prosecution rate represents a fraction of the true scale of the problem.

Jody Dobrowski, a 24-year-old barman, sustained 33 separate injuries during the attack on Clapham Common in October last year. His killers, Thomas Pickford, 25, and Scott Walker, 33, showed no emotion as they were jailed for life after admitting to the murder at the Old Bailey. The court heard how Mr Dobrowski's body was beaten so severely that his family did not recognise him, and had to identify him by his fingerprints.

He was walking home when he was set upon by Walker, a decorator, and Pickford, who is unemployed. Judge Brian Barker said their only intention was "homophobic thuggery".

Sheri Dobrowski, the murdered man's mother, spoke of the "unacceptable" levels of homophobia in society, which had in her view contributed to his murder. Reading from a statement outside court, and with many of her son's family standing with her, she said: "In a free and democratic society, Jody's murder was an outrage."

"Jody was not the first man to be killed, or terrorised, or beaten, or humiliated for being homosexual ­ or for being perceived to be homosexual. Tragically, he will not be the last man to suffer the consequences of homophobia, which is endemic in this society. We cannot accept this. No intelligent, healthy or reasonable society could."

Following the sentence, the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) disclosed it tried, between April 2005 and March this year, to bring 600 cases with a homophobic element to court. Of these, 346 resulted in a guilty plea and another 80 were convicted after standing trial ­ a conviction rate of 71 per cent.

The CPS said it was concerned that more than a quarter of planned prosecutions had to be abandoned after a victim refused to give evidence, retracted it or failed to turn up in court.

For years "gay-bashing" was a hidden crime, rarely reported to police and not recognised by the courts. There are still no specific offences of homophobia, but judges can now use motivation on the basis of sexual orientation as an aggravating factor when fixing a sentence.

The penalty handed down yesterday to Mr Dobrowski's killers is thought to be the first time that has happened. His stepfather, Mike Haddock, said: " No sentence will be long enough. It is not a comfort, but it is justice."

Efforts to encourage victims to come forward are thought to be the main cause of the recent surge in prosecutions. There were between 130 and 150 convictions in 2003-04, and 317 in 2004-05. These still represent a small proportion of the number of complaints to police. Mr Dobrowski's killing was one of 1,346 homophobic crimes reported in London alone between 2004 and 2005, a rise of 9 per cent on the previous year. Last night, the gay rights group Stonewall called for the Government to consider introducing an offence of incitement to homophobic hatred.

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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/homophobic-killers-jailed-as-gayhate-crimes-soar-404349.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on January 09, 2009, 11:34:14 PM
did you miss this one?

Police hunt homophobic thugs

09 January 2009
By Stef Hall
Police are hunting a hompohobic thug who beat up a man outside a Preston takeaway.  A man made anti-gay taunts towards the 19-year-old student in the Spice of Bengal in Friargate at 3am on January 6. He then repeatedly punched the teenager outside the takeaway, leaving him needing hospital treatment for cuts and bruises to his face.

The offender, who fled in a taxi, is described as about 19, 5ft 8in, slim and blonde.

Anyone with information should call police on 01772 203203.

http://www.lep.co.uk/news/Police-hunt-homophobic-thug.4862078.jp
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 10, 2009, 12:10:09 AM
did you miss this one?

{snip}

http://www.lep.co.uk/news/Police-hunt-homophobic-thug.4862078.jp

Yes, I did - thanks for pointing it out.  Using a search engine to come up with these items is kind of hit or miss - but, in fact, that shows how many of them there are.  And aside from the article on this page which shows the increase in crimes in London, there were also articles that pointed out the increase in Scotland and Northern Ireland.  The question, of course, is whether or not there is more crime or if people are just feeling more comfortable in reporting them.

This increase is similar to the increase in anti-gay bias crimes in the U.S. this year - other hate crime reports went down, but anti-gay bias crimes increased.

Again, I like these reports that the police themselves do - it's good to see that on the web, and that they are involving the public in solving this sort of crime.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: ChrisW on January 12, 2009, 05:08:55 PM
Yikes. Chris is going to feel like crawling back into bed when she reads all these tomorrow morning, Michael...
Oh. i'm only just getting back to this, but i had looked up the TDS link to the family project. Liked some of the quotes there.
And while of course I want my son to be happy in his private life, I am not sure that I (or he, of course) have yet really seen that it is a good thing to have been born this way. Maybe even that will come. At the moment it's more like - statistically it's harder to meet Mr Right than Ms Right.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 12, 2009, 05:41:39 PM
Well yes Chris, but the posts were in response to this:

You know folks - it's when I read this that I know the US and the UK are unbelievably different. I have no idea when the last time anything like this happened over here was.

I think we are not all that different after all.  There are nutjobs and mean people in both places - and if you don't look for this sort of thing you won't see it - in either place.  I've had other people tell me in the past this sort of thing doesn't happen in the U.S. too - and it's easy to miss if you're not looking for it.  And, of course, easy to blame on the victim (not that you were doing that - don't get me wrong - I know you wouldn't).  Not so easy when you see that it's 14 year old boys being attacked by boxers or children being attacked by their parents or the elderly being victimized or people being abused by nutty religious people.

In this way it's not so much looking for Mr./Ms. Right as it is keeping out of the way of Mr./Ms. Oh So Wrong.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 08, 2009, 10:50:06 PM
Info from the Irish press on verbal abuse and bashing among teens:

I'm gay myself -- but even I was shocked by this new Irish survey
Saturday February 07 2009

It's rotten being a teenager -- and a report released this week found that those turbulent years can be even tougher in this country if you happen to be gay.

Indeed, a shocking level of general harassment and discrimination emerged from the detailed survey of 1,110 lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) people aged between 14 and 73, with some 40pc of all respondents saying they had been threatened with physical violence and 25pc reporting being punched, kicked or beaten at some point.

But the study into mental health and wellbeing identified gay people aged between 14 and 21 as being particularly vulnerable, especially if the young person is isolated or too afraid to come out to anyone. Within that age group, 27pc admitted to self-harming while an alarming 17.7pc had actually attempted suicide.

As a gay man myself, I knew anecdotally and from my own experience that there were still barriers to be overcome, despite huge advances for Irish gay people over the past 15 years. Still, I was really taken aback to see the scale of the problem laid bare in cold, hard figures. But while it made for disheartening reading at first, there were positives to be gleaned from the research too.

It can be no coincidence that the age group most at risk is the one that's still in secondary school, and the report finds homophobic bullying, abusive name-calling and threats are still an issue for over half of current school-goers. A small number (8pc) reported being called names by teachers.

One respondent, a 23-year-old man, told how he left school after his Junior Cert because of "being jumped on and called puff and queer every day. The teachers just didn't care".

"The problem is that homophobic bullying in school just isn't being addressed properly," says Michael Barron of BelongTo, a gay youth group that has run an anti-homophobia campaign within schools.

"Bigotry against other minority students isn't tolerated, and rightly so, but that doesn't seem to be the case with homophobia. That can leave young people feeling very helpless because, by law, they must attend school and they can't just up and leave."

Having said that, Mr Barron stresses that the report is not as grim as it sounds. "Young people now have a more positive attitude about what it means to be LGBT than the older group in the research," he says.

'They have a higher level of comfort with their identity, which is a very important shift in attitudes. Even with bullying in schools, it's still a good sign that kids feel they can come out at a younger age and that certainly wouldn't have happened 10 to 15 years ago. It's a minority who are experiencing the more serious issues like harassment and bullying which lead to self harm and attempted suicide.

"Combating homophobic bullying in schools is a challenge, but I think there is goodwill out there amongst principals, counsellors and teachers."

The survey found that the average age a young person realises they are gay is 14, while the average age they come out to others is 21. "It's a huge cause of stress if a teenager feels like he can't express his true identity," says Odhran Allen, director of mental health strategy with the Gay and Lesbian Equality Network (GLEN).

'They have the normal teenage challenges, but then this loneliness and fear of rejection, on top of homophobia in school and elsewhere, is what leads to the mental health findings in this report.

"The self-harm stats are particularly worrying. Amongst the general population, the rate of repeated self-harm, such as cutting, is 23pc. In this study, the rate of repeated self-harm amongst LGBT people is 85pc."

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http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/im-gay-myself--but-even-i-was-shocked-by-this-new-irish-survey-1631717.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 15, 2009, 05:59:34 PM
Gay vet brutally murdered
By 365gay Newscenter Staff
02.13.2009 12:08pm EST

(Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania) A 19-year old man has been charged with murder in the multiple stabbing death of a 21-year old gay Army veteran.

Michael Goucher had been reported missing by his uncle.  Goucher’s car was found earlier this week abandoned on a rural road in Price Township. On Wednesday, Goucher’s body was discovered in a nearby wooded area. He had been stabbed more than 20 times.

Police said that evidence found in the vehicle led them to Shawn Freemore, and that under questioning Freemore confessed.

According to court documents Freemore said he met Goucher in a chat room and the two men agreed to have sex. He said they had the liaison in Goucher’s car.

Earlier this month he agreed to a second hookup with Goucher, again in the car.  But, the court documents, citing Freemore’s confession, said that Freemore changed his mind at the last minute. Armed with a knife, Freemore allegedly told police he ordered Goucher out of the car and then stabbed him in the neck.

Groucher fell to the ground, and according to the court documents, as he tried to get up Freemore stabbed him 19 times in the stomach.

Freemore told police he went through Groucher’s pants to find the car keys, then covered the body with snow. He then drove the car off, later abandoning it and walking home.

Relatives told The Pocono Record that Groucher joined the Army after graduating high school in 2006. He was stationed for two years in Alaska as a convoy driver and mechanic.

While on leave from the military he volunteered with the East Stroudsburg Crime Watch. After completing his military service, Goucher worked as a custodian at an area high school and was the assistant organist at a local church.

He was out to his family. “If there’s a lesson to be taken from this tragedy, it’s to warn kids, especially the younger kids, about the danger of getting together with strangers they meet online,” Groucher’s uncle, William Searfoss, told The Pocono Record.

Freemore has a criminal record for burglary, shoplifting and drug paraphernalia possession.

http://www.365gay.com/news/gay-vet-brutally-murdered/
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 15, 2009, 06:13:30 PM
That sick little bastard...We have no choice but to root this crap out at it's core-education at the grade school level.and some serious hate crimes legislation, so any adult imagining bashing  is understandable deep in their hearts might start thinking differently about it. Enough is enough.

You're right about this.  But it's also really important to remind gay men not to take unreasonable chances - men have a tendency to think of themselves as indestructible, and it's important to remember that you are not.  I'm fortunate enough (?!?) to have been exposed to several women who laid down the law to me in my teens and early 20s due to exposure to violence against women - so I've alway tended to be on the cautious side.

It's just a tragedy that after having served his country he was killed by some little piece of s**t.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CANSTANDIT on February 15, 2009, 06:15:23 PM
Gay vet brutally murdered
By 365gay Newscenter Staff
02.13.2009 12:08pm EST

(Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania) A 19-year old man has been charged with murder in the multiple stabbing death of a 21-year old gay Army veteran.

Michael Goucher had been reported missing by his uncle.  Goucher’s car was found earlier this week abandoned on a rural road in Price Township. On Wednesday, Goucher’s body was discovered in a nearby wooded area. He had been stabbed more than 20 times.

Police said that evidence found in the vehicle led them to Shawn Freemore, and that under questioning Freemore confessed.

According to court documents Freemore said he met Goucher in a chat room and the two men agreed to have sex. He said they had the liaison in Goucher’s car.

Earlier this month he agreed to a second hookup with Goucher, again in the car.  But, the court documents, citing Freemore’s confession, said that Freemore changed his mind at the last minute. Armed with a knife, Freemore allegedly told police he ordered Goucher out of the car and then stabbed him in the neck.

Groucher fell to the ground, and according to the court documents, as he tried to get up Freemore stabbed him 19 times in the stomach.

Freemore told police he went through Groucher’s pants to find the car keys, then covered the body with snow. He then drove the car off, later abandoning it and walking home.

Relatives told The Pocono Record that Groucher joined the Army after graduating high school in 2006. He was stationed for two years in Alaska as a convoy driver and mechanic.

While on leave from the military he volunteered with the East Stroudsburg Crime Watch. After completing his military service, Goucher worked as a custodian at an area high school and was the assistant organist at a local church.

He was out to his family. “If there’s a lesson to be taken from this tragedy, it’s to warn kids, especially the younger kids, about the danger of getting together with strangers they meet online,” Groucher’s uncle, William Searfoss, told The Pocono Record.

Freemore has a criminal record for burglary, shoplifting and drug paraphernalia possession.

http://www.365gay.com/news/gay-vet-brutally-murdered/
Why did this little jerk have a knife with him, if he had already met the victim once before, and agreed to go back? There is clear intent there......isn't there? I had an instant response to this as a bashing, and now, with that knife already in the kids' possession, I'm thinking it was-If he felt threatened, why would he go back the 2nd time? I wonder if  he regretted the first time, and decided to kill the poor guy so no one would find out. Jesus.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 15, 2009, 06:21:23 PM
Why did this little jerk have a knife with him, if he had already met the victim once before, and agreed to go back? There is clear intent there......isn't there? I had an instant response to this as a bashing, and now, with that knife already in the kids' possession, I'm thinking it was-If he felt threatened, why would he go back the 2nd time? I wonder if  he regretted the first time, and decided to kill the poor guy so no one would find out. Jesus.

He sounds like a career criminal to me.  He probably carried the knife all the time - although who knows.  Somehow it feels like we're not getting the whole story here - I mean why did he feel he needed to kill the guy?  It wasn't like he was being raped.  It's just a tragedy and my heart goes out to the family of Michael Goucher.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 15, 2009, 06:24:11 PM
More on this:

Family, friends remember slain Stroudsburg man
By Andrew Scott
Pocono Record Writer
February 13, 2009

If Will and Mary Searfoss told their nephew once, they told him a thousand times.

They warned Michael Goucher, 21, of Stroudsburg, to be careful about meeting in person anyone he had met in an online chat room.

Goucher went missing Feb. 3, after saying he was going to meet a friend, and was found dead Wednesday in a wooded area near where his car had been found in Price Township.

Obituary and Guestbook: Michael Goucher

The "friend," Shawn Freemore, 19, of Price Township, is now charged with fatally stabbing Goucher. The Searfosses suspect Goucher met Freemore in an online chat room, though police have not confirmed this.

"If there's a lesson to be taken from this tragedy, it's to warn kids, especially the younger kids, about the danger of getting together with strangers they meet online," a tearful William Searfoss said Thursday, sitting with his wife, Mary, in their living room in East Stroudsburg.

Mary Searfoss is the sister of Goucher's father, Scott Goucher of Bartonsville. Family issues caused Michael Goucher to live with the Searfosses during his high school years.

"Mike was the typical kid who was into chat rooms," William Searfoss said. "It was in his nature. He was outgoing and likable. We told him all the time to be careful. But, once he moved out and got a place of his own, we had no more control over what he did or who he met.

"Some kids think they're invincible and can't make a mistake, but all it takes is one mistake and your family is planning a funeral," he said.

Freemore told police he and Goucher met for sex last month and that the two met again on the night of Feb. 3 for another tryst, according to police. Freemore told police he refused Goucher's advances, got out of the car and, when Goucher followed him, stabbed Goucher.

"Even if that were true, that's no justification to stab someone and then stab them 19 more times," William Searfoss said. "This wasn't self-defense."

Goucher's mother, Mary Anne Goucher of Moosic, called Freemore's story "totally not true" and "so out of character" with her son's nonviolent reputation.

"Mike was a trusting soul, a good kid," she said. "I believe this kid had planned from the start to rob Mike."

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http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090213/NEWS/902130359/-1/news
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 15, 2009, 06:27:15 PM
And on the perp:

Parents of Price man charged with murder speak out
By Andrew Scott
Pocono Record Writer
February 13, 2009

"I need somethin, someone, to help me with my brain, because I'm fallin apart, I fall apart."

Those lyrics from the song, "Fall Apart," by the "horror" rock/hip-hop group, Twiztid, are at the top left of the MySpace page belonging to Shawn Freemore, 19, of Price Township. Freemore is charged with fatally stabbing Michael Goucher, 21, of Stroudsburg.

Goucher went missing Feb. 3 after saying he was going to meet a friend. Police on Wednesday found Goucher dead in a wooded area near where his car had been found off Snow Hill Road in Price Township. The Monroe County Coroner's Office said he had been stabbed about 20 times.

An initial investigation led to Freemore's Wednesday night arrest. Police are investigating Freemore's story about him meeting Goucher in an online chat room and later "hooking up" for a homosexual tryst that led to him killing Goucher.

Next to the lyrics at the top of Freemore's MySpace page is a picture of a male, presumably him, with white clown makeup on his face and the brim of a dark-colored hat pulled down low to cover his eyes. The page's decorative background is lined with copies of the demonic jack-in-the-box logo of another rock/hip-hop group, Insane Clown Posse. Freemore was arrested wearing an Insane Clown Posse T-shirt.

The page paints a picture of Freemore, who admitted to drug use at the time of his arrest, as being a Juggalo. The Juggalos are a subculture of teenagers and young adults who listen to groups such as Insane Clown Posse and Twiztid, who have recorded songs about violence and madness.

While some view the Juggalos as a violent criminal gang, some Juggalos say they are a harmless substitute family for those who feel like social outcasts.

Online court records show that Freemore since age 14 has pleaded guilty in various cases to retail theft, burglary, disorderly conduct and drug paraphernalia possession. This is the second time he has been charged with a felony, but the first time he has been charged with murder or been in jail.

Freemore's parents live in Rock Ledge Manor Estates, east of where Goucher's body and car were found, in Price Township. When contacted at home Thursday afternoon, they said they knew no more than that he'd been charged with murder

They described him as quiet, mild-mannered and helpful and said they are shocked at the murder charge against him.

"He's just not that kind of person," said his father, Ryan Freemore, an Arizona native and former construction contractor who has multiple sclerosis and uses a motorized wheelchair.

His mother, Patricia Freemore, an East Stroudsburg native, said, "We're dumbfounded. We're devastated. We don't understand. We hope it's a different story than what we've been hearing."

Even in light of his criminal record, the couple recall no signs from their son's childhood or more recent years to indicate violent or homicidal tendencies.

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http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090213/NEWS/902130358/-1/news
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 19, 2009, 09:46:28 PM
Former Pride prez assaulted on Muni
by Seth Hemmelgarn
2/19/09

A man who'd been yelling about his dislike of "faggots" and who had also gone after other passengers recently kicked a longtime gay activist in the head on a Muni bus.

Joey Cain, a former president of the San Francisco LGBT Pride board of directors, boarded the outbound Number 7 bus at Haight and Market streets at about 5:15 p.m. on Thursday, January 29.

He took a seat just behind the back door. A man was standing up nearby, he said, talking loudly about not liking "faggots."

At one point, the man said, "I don't like the Castro. I don't want people thinking I'm a faggot that goes to the Castro."

Cain took a look at the man and decided "he didn't look that dangerous."

"Don't worry," Cain told the man. "You've been going on for five minutes about how you're not a faggot. No one on this bus thinks you're a faggot."

The man engaged Cain in conversation, he said.

"You're a flamer," he recalled the man saying. Cain, who said he was wearing earrings and a pink scarf, replied, "Yeah, I'm one of the biggest flaming queens in the city."

The man, who Cain said was African American, grew calm and sat down, but continued to talk about hating "faggots," and then said, "If you don't like what I have to say about faggots, you should hear what I have to say about white people," among other statements.

A woman toward the middle of the bus said, "Why don't you shut up and get off the bus." Then a woman who was sitting in the seat behind the man got up and said, "You don't talk to my boyfriend that way. I'm gonna get that bitch!"

She and the man approached the woman while yelling at her, but the bus was full, so they couldn't get to her.

Cain and two others toward the back of the bus said, "Shut up and leave her alone" and "get off the bus!"

The man turned around and started toward the back of the bus toward Cain and the others, but a number of people stood up to block him.

By this point, people had started yelling for the driver to stop. The man was pushing others, and they were pushing back.

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http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=3726
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 21, 2009, 10:51:09 PM
Defense to downplay hate crime in Skipper murder trial
by Steve Blanchard

Bartow | Defense attorneys for Joseph Bearden have made it clear they plan to argue their client did not target Ryan Keith Skipper in March 2007 because the student was gay. In fact, public defenders said their client’s only involvement in the murder of 25-year-old Skipper was as an accessory after the fact, nothing more.

It’s unclear if they plan to argue that Bearden’s so-called accomplice, William Brown, actually committed the murder. In opening statements, attorneys argued that the 22-year-old Beardon only helped clean up after a robbery instigated to support his drug habit. But Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd says it appears Skipper was targeted because of his sexual orientation.

"[A] witness came in and talked about how William (Brown) was bragging to him and others about how he killed this guy because he was homosexual … and took his car," Judd told TruTV.

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http://www.watermarkonline.com/content.php?cid=4714
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on February 27, 2009, 11:47:32 PM
Sucuzhanay hate crime suspect Keith Pheonix nabbed in Yonkers

When murder suspect Keith Phoenix confessed to the hate crime slaying of Jose Sucuzhanay, his shocking first words to cops were: "So I killed somebody - that makes me a bad guy?"

Phoenix give a full confession - but showed no guilt - for the deadly beating he and his pal gave Sucuzhanay, 31, mistakenly thinking the immigrant was gay because he was walking arm-in-arm with his brother Dec. 7.

Phoenix was caught on surveillance video laughing just 19 minutes after the murder.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/02/27/2009-02-27_sucuzhanay_hate_crime_suspect_keith_pheo.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/02/27/2009-02-27_sucuzhanay_hate_crime_suspect_keith_pheo.html)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dejavu on February 28, 2009, 08:35:08 PM
Gay vet brutally murdered
By 365gay Newscenter Staff
02.13.2009 12:08pm EST

(Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania) A 19-year old man has been charged with murder in the multiple stabbing death of a 21-year old gay Army veteran.

Michael Goucher had been reported missing by his uncle.  Goucher’s car was found earlier this week abandoned on a rural road in Price Township. On Wednesday, Goucher’s body was discovered in a nearby wooded area. He had been stabbed more than 20 times.


OMG! 

I knew someone at work named Goucher and his family of origin lived in the Stroudsburg, PA area.

Have no way to get in touch with him now, but I can't believe this happened, especially since it could be that the murdered young man could be a nephew or cousin of someone I knew.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on February 28, 2009, 09:19:02 PM
That was a truly awful case, Debbie.  And a warning to get to know people that  you meet online before going anywhere with them alone.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on February 28, 2009, 09:55:44 PM
It just doesn't stop.

 :'(
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on March 01, 2009, 10:03:04 AM
It just doesn't stop.  :'(
yes chuck, but i am glad you have the awareness.  we have friends who insist there is little or no gay bashing.  just crimes.

right!  >:(
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on March 04, 2009, 10:26:01 AM
3 charged in assault at gay bar
By Chris Paschenko
The Daily News
Published March 3, 2009

GALVESTON — A 4-pound stone, one of several door stops hurled at patrons in a bar that includes gay people among its clientele, left one man with 12 staples in the back of his head and two brothers and an acquaintance accused of a hate crime.

Marc Bosaw, 57, said Monday he has little recollection of the Sunday night attack, in which police said one suspect held open the door to Robert’s Lafitte bar while two others launched an assault shortly after 8 p.m.

Bosaw sat at the corner of the bar at 2501 Ave. Q just a few feet from one of two entryway doors.

“I thought I had just been slapped, and the second rock hit me here,” Bosaw said of the mark on his hand. “Everything went white in my mind, and I thought that was it. I even said ‘goodbye.’”

The barrage also hit another patron, James Nickelson, 39, who police listed as a Houston resident, but bar patrons said Monday they believed he had recently moved to the island.

Bonds for Lawrence Henry Lewis III, 20, Lawrneil Henry Lewis, 18, and Alejandro Sam Gray, 17, all of Galveston, were set at $120,000 each on two counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon with the enhancement of a hate crime, said Lt. D.J. Alvarez, a Galveston police spokesman.

Victor Clements, 47, said that as he compressed the back of his 13-year partner’s bleeding head, witnesses chased after three men and gave a description to police.

Meanwhile, bar patrons, including a psychiatrist, tried to keep Bosaw conscious, bracing him to keep him on his feet near the billiard table.

“I kind of blacked out, and the doctor of psychiatry was sitting next to me,” Bosaw said. “He said I had a weak pulse and made me breathe deeply and kept shaking me.”

Police called an ambulance. Nickelson, who was hit in the jaw, refused treatment. The ambulance took Bosaw to Clear Lake Regional Medical Center, where medical staff placed 12 metal staples in his head, released him about midnight and told him he should be watched for a couple of days.

Police swept through the neighborhood and found three men who were brought back to the bar for identification by witnesses, Alvarez said.

“It’s sad that this type of behavior occurred in our city,” Alvarez said. “It was good police work” to make the arrests quickly, he said.

The district attorney’s office authorized the hate crime charge because the motive was to harass and the intent was to randomly assault them based on their sexual preference, Alvarez said.

Bosaw, who spent six years in the U.S. Navy aboard a submarine, said he joined the military when he was 20 and it was then that he realized he was gay.

While sitting at another bar Monday, Bosaw said he became completely aware of his surroundings on the ambulance ride. He was feeling OK, except for the large and painful laceration to his head.

“I was just sitting there innocently having a cocktail,” Bosaw said. “We had just arrived and were sitting there for two minutes.”

Yvonne Gordon of Galveston said she was at the bar during the melee.

Police took the rock that hit Bosaw as evidence. It has his hair still attached, Gordon said.

Lafitte bartender Joel Hickman, who was not on duty Sunday night, said the establishment is basically known as a gay bar.

“Everybody around here knows that, but not all our clientele is gay.”

http://www.galvnews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=57448c358ce08669
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on March 04, 2009, 10:58:18 AM
what annoyed me, but i refrained from pointing out on towleroad where i saw it first, is that i KNEW that the assailants would be black when i read that the hate crime enhancement had been laid.  you can bet it wouldn't have been a hate crime if it had been 3 vacationing aggies or smu students who threw the rocks.  a misguided prank for the white boys.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on March 04, 2009, 11:03:35 AM
I didn't check, Jack.  Your point is well taken, but I don't check on things like that when I post the bits I find here (and I know you're not suggesting that I need to).  Much like it's disgusting that people find it necessarily to act out on base aggression because of sexual orientation it is disgusting that the press reports it differently for different groups of people.  But bashing occurs in all races.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on March 04, 2009, 03:58:52 PM
you are correct, that observation wasn't aimed at you, or reportage for that matter, but at the legal system and how it adresses crime where race enters the picture.   
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dback on March 04, 2009, 10:56:11 PM
Actually, in this terrible wave of anti-gay crimes we've had occurring in the past few weeks/months (what IS going on out there?!?!?!), this is the first I can recall being committed by men of color--all the others seemed to be Caucasian.  Correct me if I'm mistaken.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on March 04, 2009, 11:03:08 PM
Actually, in this terrible wave of anti-gay crimes we've had occurring in the past few weeks/months (what IS going on out there?!?!?!), this is the first I can recall being committed by men of color--all the others seemed to be Caucasian.  Correct me if I'm mistaken.

You are not mistaken.  The perps have almost all been white in the recent ones I think.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on March 05, 2009, 07:12:05 PM
(what IS going on out there?!?!?!)

Good question....

Man receives community service in hate crime case
by Seth Hemmelgarn
Published 03/05/2009

A man who pleaded guilty to a hate crime after punching a gay man in San Francisco late last year was sentenced Friday, February 27.

Under a plea agreement reached in San Francisco Superior Court in January, Andrew Duhamel, 29, will be placed on formal probation for four years. As conditions of probation, in addition to a stay away order from the victim, Jerry Deal, 32, and payment of full restitution to him, Duhamel was ordered to pay $1,000 to Community United Against Violence. He was also ordered to perform 250 hours of community service or serve four months in county jail.

Deal said the incident started just before midnight on November 23 near Union Square. Duhamel, another male, and two females walked by, and after he referred to Deal and his friends as "stupid faggots," Duhamel hit him across the face. Duhamel and the three people with him ran off, Deal said. Deal then chased after them.

Eventually, Deal lost site of Duhamel and the other three but soon spotted them inside a parking garage.

Deal said when he ran in front of the garage, "all four of them came after me" and the man who was with Duhamel "grabbed me and cornered me and pushed me into a doorway," pinning him against a wall.

Deal, who was on the phone with a 911 operator throughout much of the incident, has listened to a 911 tape and said Duhamel or the other man can be heard on the tape saying, "Today's the day you're gonna die, fag." The Bay Area Reporter has not heard the 911 tape.

The man who had been with Duhamel was detained for public drunkenness, but Deal declined to press charges against him. San Francisco Police Inspector Mike Morley would not name the man since he wasn't charged with anything. In his victim statement, Deal indicated he was Miguel Silva.

Duhamel was in custody for about a day. He was then released on $38,000 bail. He pleaded guilty in January to one felony count of hate crime threats and a felony count of assault with force likely to produce great bodily injury.

Deal told the B.A.R. in January that he asked for Duhamel to receive community service rather than go to jail because jail is "not where people get rehabilitated."

Duhamel appeared in court last week for his sentencing, but declined to comment to the B.A.R.

http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=3771
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on March 06, 2009, 03:05:55 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7926904.stm

Quote
Youth guilty of gay man's killing

A teenager who killed a gay man after hurling homophobic abuse at him, has been detained for more than two years in a young offenders' institution.
David Smith, 20, of Bexley in Kent, pleaded guilty to manslaughter at the Old Bailey in February.
The court heard the victim, ex-lorry driver Ronald Dixon, 61, was subjected to abuse and spat at before being punched to the ground, fatally injured.

In sentencing, the judge said he was not treating the killing as homophobic.

the lesson i take away from this and other attacks is that, if attacked, do every thing in my power to kill first.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Roco on March 11, 2009, 06:43:27 PM
Gay activists attacked by orchestra in Greek National Opera

Gay rights activists protesting the censorship of the opera Rusalka by Antonín Dvořák were attacked by members of the orchestra and security staff at the Greek National Opera (Εθνική Λυρική Σκηνή) in Athens yesterday evening.

http://teacherdudebbq.blogspot.com/2009/03/gay-activists-beaten-by-orchestra-in.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on March 12, 2009, 12:21:15 AM
^^^  Very weird, Roco.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on March 16, 2009, 06:55:17 PM
Surge in anti-gay hate crime cases
By Tracey Kaplan
Mercury News
Posted: 03/16/2009 12:00:00 AM PDT

Hate crime cases involving anti-gay sentiment shot up in Santa Clara County last year, a striking increase that a leading prosecutor attributes to controversy over Proposition 8, the voter-approved ban on gay marriage.

Anti-gay incidents accounted for more than half of hate-crime cases last year — 56 percent — a big jump from only 15 percent in 2007. There were 14 anti-gay cases out of 25 hate-crime cases in 2008, compared with only 3 out of 20 in 2007.

"My belief from having done this work for many years is that surges in types of hate incidents are linked to the headlines and controversies of the day,'' said Deputy District Attorney Jay Boyarsky, who is assigned to monitor hate crimes. "Marriage equality and Proposition 8 have been in the news, and we have seen an increase in gay-bashing.''

A hate crime is defined as a criminal act committed in whole or in part because of one or more of the following actual or perceived characteristics of the victim: race/ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, disability or association with a person or group with one or more of these characteristics.

"Anyone can be a victim of hate crime, including white males,'' Boyarsky said. "We're not playing political favorites. Certainly, we've had Christian victims of hate crimes.'

In Santa Clara County last year, hate-crime enhancements were added to criminal charges ranging from graffiti vandalism and disturbing the peace to assault and battery.

The increase in anti-gay acts in Santa Clara County saddened South Bay activists, who opposed the gay marriage ban that garnered 52 percent of the vote in November.

"When there's a lot more information about gays and lesbians on TV or in the news, it brings out the worst in people who have an inherent bias against groups they don't belong to,'' said Leslie Bulbuk, president of BAYMEC, a regional political action group representing the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community. "It seems like visibility makes people come out of the woodwork.''

But the former campaign manager for Proposition 8 said the statistics don't reflect cases in which opponents harassed and threatened supporters of the ban.

"I certainly hope Proposition 8 did not result in more crime,'' said Frank Schubert of the group Protect Marriage. "But if it did, it did so on both sides.''

Comparable data was not available for other Bay Area counties. Those numbers will be released in July by the state Attorney General's Office in its annual hate crime report.

continues:

http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_11921999?nclick_check=1
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Jules on March 17, 2009, 08:20:39 AM
I don't know if this has already been posted, but better twice than never. Please spread it as much as you can:

http://gayswithoutborders.wordpress.com/2009/03/17/urgent-action-germany-threatens-to-deport-mehdi-n-to-iran/

I just sent my letter, I hope you'll join me.

Thanks.

=> Mods: please post this elsewhere if this isn't the right place, thanks.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on March 21, 2009, 08:51:10 PM
Brooklyn teen guilty in 2007 knife slay of gay man in Crown Heights
By Scott Shifrel
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Thursday, March 19th 2009, 1:13 AM

Brooklyn jurors Wednesday convicted a teen of viciously knifing to death a gay man he said flirted with him.

Omar Willock, 18, was convicted of murder in the Sept. 12, 2007, stabbing death of 20-year-old Roberto Duncanson, after four days of deliberation.

Willock was initially facing murder as a hate crime, but that charge was dropped after witnesses failed to make the case it was the primary motivation in the fight on St. Marks Ave. in Crown Heights, Justice Neil Jon Firetog said.

Willock is still facing as much as 25 years to life for killing the CVS drugstore employee, who was apparently drunk at the time.

"Some were reluctant to convict at first because of the age [of Willock] and the long sentence," said one juror. "The drunk victim must have had some kind of death wish to pick a fight with someone who was not drunk."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/03/18/2009-03-18_brooklyn_teen_guilty_in_2007_knife_slay_.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on April 06, 2009, 06:17:08 AM


Six gay men shot to death in Iraq by tribe members


By Mohammed Tawfeeq
CNN

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Six gay men were shot dead by members of their tribe in two separate incidents in the past 10 days, an official with Iraq's Interior ministry said.

In the most recent attack, two men were killed Thursday in Sadr City area of Baghdad after they were disowned by relatives, the official said.

The shootings came after a tribal meeting was held and the members decided to go after the victims.

On March 26, four additional men were fatally shot in the same city, the official said, adding that the victims had also been disowned by their relatives.

...

Witnesses told CNN that a Sadr City cafe, which was a popular gathering spot for gays, was also set on fire

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/04/05/gay.deaths.iraq/ (http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/04/05/gay.deaths.iraq/)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on April 14, 2009, 12:52:35 AM
an interesting challenge from a mom...

http://suburblezmom.blogspot.com/

perhaps we should all get on board and do our part to make this happen.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on April 14, 2009, 08:39:23 AM
an interesting challenge from a mom...

http://suburblezmom.blogspot.com/

perhaps we should all get on board and do our part to make this happen.

so far ABC news is the only national media to pick up the story. In the Health section under "Medical News"  ???

When Words Can Kill: 'That's So Gay'

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/story?id=7328091&page=1 (http://abcnews.go.com/Health/MindMoodNews/story?id=7328091&page=1)

And The Advocate, if that can be classified as national media, has the story

http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid78827.asp (http://www.advocate.com/exclusive_detail_ektid78827.asp)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 14, 2009, 07:23:07 PM
Gay Bashing Incident In Seaport Town

By On Top Magazine Staff
Published: April 14, 2009



The tiny seaport town of Gloucester, Massachusetts – about 30 miles north of Boston – was rocked Saturday by a violent attack on a gay man.

Two brothers have been arrested for the beating of Justin Goodwin, 33, of Salem reports The Boston Globe.

Goodwin, a gay man, was beaten outside Old Timer's Tavern after being removed from the bar. Reports say his attackers shouted anti-gay slurs as they shattered his jaw and broke his nose, an eye socket and a cheek bone. The damage required nearly ten hours of surgery Sunday at Beth Israel Hospital in Boston and Goodwin is expected to undergo further surgery. His jaw will be wired shut for about two months, family members said.

http://ontopmag.com/article.aspx?id=3644&MediaType=1&Category=26
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: chapeaugris on April 17, 2009, 12:42:08 AM
an interesting challenge from a mom...

http://suburblezmom.blogspot.com/

perhaps we should all get on board and do our part to make this happen.
This 11 year old boy's suicide is mentioned in the first paragraph of this NY Times blog piece on bullying

http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/16/who-are-you-calling-gay/

Also from this piece:

Quote
It’s weird, isn’t it, that in an age in which the definition of acceptable girlhood has expanded, so that desirable femininity now encompasses school success and athleticism, the bounds of boyhood have remained so tightly constrained? And so staunchly defended: Boys avail themselves most frequently of epithets like “fag” to “police” one another’s behavior and bring it back to being sufficiently masculine when someone steps out of line, Barbara J. Risman, a sociologist at the University of Illinois at Chicago, found while conducting extensive interviews in a southeastern urban middle school in 2003 and 2004. “Boys were showing each other they were tough. They were afraid to do anything that might be called girlie,” she told me this week. “It was just like what I would have found if I had done this research 50 years ago. They were frozen in time.”
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on April 17, 2009, 02:51:54 AM
imho, this post, researched as it sounds, completely misses the key factor, misogyny.  hatred or distrust of anything to do with femaleness OTHER than being a vessel for male egos and sperm.

the roots of homophobia lie deep in misogyny.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on April 21, 2009, 09:53:10 AM
Another Child Suicide Blamed on Antigay Bullying

Quote
Family members of an 11-year-old boy who committed suicide in Dekalb County, Georgia on Thursday afternoon say that relentless bullying is to blame for their son's death, according to the Atlanta-Journal Constitution .

Jaheem Herrera, a fifth-grader at Dunaire Elementary School in the Atlanta area, hanged himself in his room after enduring extreme daily bullying that included antigay taunts. His 10-year-old sister discovered his body.


Quote
The suicide of Jaheem follows the death earlier this month of 11-year-old Carl Joseph Walker-Hoover, a sixth-grader in Springfield, Massachusetts who hanged himself as a result of antigay bullying.

In March, 17-year-old Eric Mohat of Mentor, Ohio shot and killed himself in response to antigay harassment, his parents charge
.


http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid79731.asp (http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid79731.asp)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on April 21, 2009, 09:57:33 AM
so far ABC news is the only national media to pick up the story. In the Health section under "Medical News"  ???

Anderson Cooper (of all people) did at least two segments on this for CNN - and talked with the mom both times.  They were both pretty good segments.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on April 21, 2009, 02:12:15 PM
when is enough enough?  how can we help these children survive?  what will it take for christian churches to realize this is the fruit of their efforts?  is anyone even paying attention? 

these are questions i ask myself and anyone else who will listen.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on April 22, 2009, 03:17:32 PM
Mother fined for gay son taunts
Page last updated at 14:01 GMT, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 15:01 UK

A mother in Aberdeen who shouted homophobic abuse at her estranged teenage son has been fined.

Celia Duncan, 42, abused 16-year-old Stuart O'Neill when she spotted him holding hands with his boyfriend.

Duncan, who admitted breach of the peace, swore at the pair and called them "poofs", Aberdeen Sheriff Court heard. She was fined £250.

Her son said: "I feel really betrayed by my mum. What she said to me was vile and hurtful."

Duncan also admitted sending threatening phone messages.

Fiscal depute Cecilia Dyckhoff, prosecuting, told the court: "The complainer was walking with his friend on Back Hilton Road when he saw Miss Duncan's car going past, brake suddenly, turn round and stop.

"He knew it was her car and started to run away. He and his friend climbed a wall and ran through a wood and the accused chased him shouting at them, making homophobic remarks."

Ms Dyckhoff said Mr O'Neill's mother later sent him a voicemail saying: "I will get you, believe me, and you will get your head kicked in."

She told the court: "He then got a text message that said 'I will get you and your poof'."

continues:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/north_east/8012607.stm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 22, 2009, 03:53:22 PM
Just when you think it can't get any worse.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: lovelyamazing on April 22, 2009, 08:43:52 PM
Mother fined for gay son tauntsHer son said: "I feel really betrayed by my mum. What she said to me was vile and hurtful."

It's this sense of betrayal that leads so often to the kids taking their lives. I wonder how these parents totally disconnect from the "inner parent," the inner nurturer that makes them parents in the first place. I am so familiar in my RL with parents taunting their children. My state has a very high rate of teen suicide and it is mostly about these parental taunts.

I wonder how scarred this poor kid will be. They've fined the mother alright but will she change internally? She needs some serious attention before she can be deemed fit to be a parent.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 23, 2009, 07:14:48 AM
It's this sense of betrayal that leads so often to the kids taking their lives. I wonder how these parents totally disconnect from the "inner parent," the inner nurturer that makes them parents in the first place. I am so familiar in my RL with parents taunting their children. My state has a very high rate of teen suicide and it is mostly about these parental taunts.

I wonder how scarred this poor kid will be. They've fined the mother alright but will she change internally? She needs some serious attention before she can be deemed fit to be a parent.


I get the feeling she won't get that attention she needs.

She feels she's right in her behavior, therefore, unless forced by the courts, she won't get therapy, because she feels she doesn't need it.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: lovelyamazing on April 23, 2009, 07:25:25 PM

I get the feeling she won't get that attention she needs.

She feels she's right in her behavior, therefore, unless forced by the courts, she won't get therapy, because she feels she doesn't need it.

It wouldn't do that kid any good to be under her care  :( :( :(
That sense of "rightness" is dangerous.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 23, 2009, 07:32:57 PM
It wouldn't do that kid any good to be under her care  :( :( :(
That sense of "rightness" is dangerous.


You are soooo right.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on April 24, 2009, 12:49:40 AM
Iraqi gay men face 'lives of hell'

  By Jim Muir
BBC News, Baghdad

Mobile footage of gay men being abused is being widely circulated in Iraq

Grainy footage taken on a mobile phone and widely distributed around Baghdad shows a terrified young Iraqi boy cowering and whimpering as men with a stick force him to strip, revealing women's underwear beneath his dishdasha (Arab robe).

"Why are you dressed as a girl?" roars one of the men, brandishing his stick as the youth removes his brassiere.

The sobbing boy, who appears to be about 12, tries to explain that his family made him do it to earn money, as they have no other source of income...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8005420.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8005420.stm)

http://www.queerty.com/iraqi-gays-face-threat-of-glued-anuses-20090421/ (http://www.queerty.com/iraqi-gays-face-threat-of-glued-anuses-20090421/)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on April 24, 2009, 06:53:27 AM
My bullied son's last day on Earth
updated 2:59 a.m. EDT, Fri April 24, 2009
By Mallory Simon
CNN

ATLANTA, Georgia (CNN) -- Eleven-year-old Jaheem Herrera woke up on April 16 acting strangely. He wasn't hungry and he didn't want to go to school.

 But the outgoing fifth grader packed his bag and went to school at Dunaire Elementary School in DeKalb County, Georgia.

He came home much happier than when he left in the morning, smiling as he handed his mother, Masika Bermudez, a glowing report card full of A's and B's. She gave him a high-five and he went upstairs to his room as she prepared dinner.

A little later, when his younger sister called him to come down to eat, Jaheem didn't answer.

So mother and daughter climbed the stairs to Jaheem's room and opened the door.

Jaheem was hanging by his belt in the closet.

"I always used to see these things on TV, dead people on the news," says Bermudez. "I saw somebody die and to see this dead person is your son, hanging there, a young boy. ... To hang yourself like that, you've got to really be tired of something."

Bermudez says bullies at school pushed Jaheem over the edge. He complained about being called gay, ugly and "the virgin" because he was from the Virgin Islands, she said.

"He used to say Mom they keep telling me this ... this gay word, this gay, gay, gay. I'm tired of hearing it, they're telling me the same thing over and over," she told CNN, as she wiped away tears from her face.

continues:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/23/bullying.suicide/
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: estefue on April 24, 2009, 07:17:35 PM
A related blog entry by Charles Blow appears in Today's New York Times' editorial page.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 28, 2009, 12:04:30 PM
Originally posted in "Le Bar Slash" by Jenny.



I hope this isn't inappropriate here, but I wanted to be sure all USA Brokies are aware that the Matthew Shepard act (H.R. 1913) comes up for a vote in the house tomorrow. Please call your congressperson before 5 pm today and ask them to vote 'yes' on the hate crimes bill. Go to this URL to get the office phone #:
 http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/phone_numbers.tt?show=hill_phone

An intern will answer. You're calling to urge the Rep. to vote 'yes'. You might want to mention that one out of six hate crimes is because of the victim's sexual orientation, that the act targets only violent acts, not speech, and doesn't tell any clergyperson what they may preach. Mention that the Rep.'s vote on this bill will affect your future support. Please call even if you have called or e-mailed before, even if you're sure your Rep. will (or won't) vote for the bill.

IMO, this bill is particularly significant to us as Brokies. Matthew was murdered in Wyoming. We need to stand up and be counted as supporting a bill that will help prevent the kind of fear that came between Ennis and Jack (and all the real couples whose story is their story.) 
Title: FOF's James Dobson is Going Completely Mad Over Hate Crimes
Post by: Jer009 on May 06, 2009, 09:45:46 AM
http://www.towleroad.com/2009/05/fofs-james-dobson-is-going-completely-mad-over-hate-crimes.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on May 11, 2009, 09:21:48 PM
Zapata Killer Gets Life Plus 60

Allen Andrade was sentenced on Monday to life plus 60 years for the July 2008 murder of young transgender woman Angie Zapata.

http://advocate.com/news_detail_ektid83564.asp (http://advocate.com/news_detail_ektid83564.asp)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 11, 2009, 09:48:36 PM
^^^OMG!  He beat her to death with a fire extinguisher.  What a callous b*****d.

He will not be missed.  Hope he likes prison.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 12, 2009, 04:58:32 AM
Suspects Sought in Wis. Gay Bashing
By Amita Parashar


Two young men were beaten in downtown Madison, Wis., apparently because they are gay.

"The perpetrators approached and accused them of being gay," police spokesman Joel DeSpain wrote in the incident report. He said one man was knocked to the ground and kicked while the other victim was punched multiple times in the head.


http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid83574.asp
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 14, 2009, 04:46:25 PM
Near-fatal beating of Buffalo man in West Village investigated as possible hate crime, say police

BY Barry Paddock, Alison Gendar AND Wil Cruz
DAILY NEWS WRITERS


Roving hoodlums were out for blood when they bashed in the head of a Buffalo man on a West Village street because they thought he was gay, police said.

"I got him good," one of the punks allegedly boasted after the gang jumped Allen Williams, 50, as he was hailing a cab around 2 a.m. Thursday.

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said the NYPD is investigating the near-fatal beating as a "possible bias attack."

Williams was unconscious, in serious condition, at St. Vincent's Medical Center. He has not been able to speak to police and it was unknown if he's gay.

He was standing on Seventh Ave. South when a band of four thugs blocked him from getting into two cabs - then clocked him in the face.

The blow dropped Williams to the concrete and his head bouncing off the pavement, Kelly said.

Passersby tried to stanch the flow of blood with rags from a nearby bar.



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/05/14/2009-05-14_nearfatal_beating_of_buffalo_man_in_west_village_investigated_as_possible_hate_c.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 14, 2009, 05:08:57 PM
Thanks for letting me know about that, Chuck.  It's very odd, but it still seems like we need to maintain networks like the one we have here to know about these sorts of things.  They do not get covered in the 'general' press enough that we hear about them if we are not in the immediate area.  And if we don't hear about them it allows us to ignore it or believe that it doesn't actually (or still) happen - or that somehow the victims of these crimes did something to bring it about - when after all it is something no more extreme than a 50 year old going out to a bar and hailing a cab that brings this sort of violent nonsense about.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 14, 2009, 05:35:25 PM
You're welcome Michael, and I agree.

We do need to maintain a network for stories like this.

So many people think that violence against gay people is down.  The fact that this attack took place in the Village in NYC shows that it's the violence is still alive and out there, no matter how "liberal" and "accepting" certain places are considered.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 14, 2009, 05:45:17 PM
You're right.  When the sexual attack happened in the Castro a year or so ago (a man was robbed then raped by his 'straight' gay bashing attackers) it reminded me yet again that this can happen anywhere - and it isn't about how you look or what you wear (this happened to a man who was in his mid-forties who looked like a accountant), but what is in the mind of the attacker.

It isn't about the city.  It isn't about what you wear or who you are - it's about the notions and attitudes of the attackers.  And (imho) that's why we need hate crime laws.  Because just like rape isn't just a sex crime these attacks aren't just violent crimes.  They are attempting to tell people in these neighborhoods that they don't belong and there is nowhere they can go where they are safe.  It is, in the purist sense, terror.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 24, 2009, 05:21:19 PM
Gay man gunned down
Delray Beach resident shot in own driveway
By DMITRY RASHNITSOV
MAY. 21, 2009

Delray Beach Police Officers are investigating the homicide of a 30-year-old gay man found dead in his driveway on May 11 around 8:30 p.m.

Mark Scott Harriss died instantly from multiple gunshot wounds inflicted as he exited his gray Ford F150 truck at his house, 412 NE 7th Ave., Delray Beach, after eating dinner at the Taco Bell on Linton Boulevard, a six-minute drive from his residence, according to police reports.

Delray Beach Police Detective Troy Baer said there are no suspects at this time and police have not narrowed down a motive for the crime, including if the victim was targeted base on his sexuality.

“We don’t know if it’s a hate crime, it is possible,” Det. Baer said. “It could have been anything.”

Det. Baer said that so far the evidence points to this crime being an isolated incident and there is no need for panic among the gay community.

Police do not believe anything was stolen from Harriss’s car, nor are there any signs of a struggle or conflict.

At the time of the incident, police spoke with five witnesses, who identified that a small white four-door vehicle had been present in the area before and after the shooting.  Police have not found any direct witnesses to the crime.

According to friends Harriss had moved to South Florida about two years ago. He worked as the manager of a Best Western Hotel in Boca Raton. He was engaged to marry his partner Ross Salvosa, a Canadian citizen, in Vancouver next year.

Harriss’ mother and younger brother also survive him.

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http://www.floridablade.com/2009/5-21/news/localnews/5862.cfm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: brian on May 25, 2009, 02:04:08 PM
From Sydney Morning Herald
Websites fuel hate crimes

  http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/websites-fuel-hate-crimes/2009/05/23/1242498967448.html

Matthew Benns
May 24, 2009

A 27-YEAR-OLD civil servant watched in horror as his gay partner was smashed across the back of the head with an iron bar after they were ambushed on their way home from their local RSL club last month.

The violent attack in Seven Hills was just one of an average of five assaults on gay and lesbian people that are reported to authorities every month. At least another 30 are attacked without making an official complaint.

The NSW Anti-Discrimination Board has warned that the statewide violence is being fuelled by an increasing number of homophobic websites being run by Australians.

The 27-year-old victim, who did not wish to be named, said: "We had gone to the club to watch the football and when I was walking through, a guy called me an 'effing faggot' and pushed and tried to punch me. I just ignored it."

But almost two hours later when the man and his partner left the club, the assailant and two accomplices were lying in wait.

"An object hit my head and my vision went blurry. There was half a brick that had hit me in the road. The next minute there were three guys running towards us," he said.

An attacker was wielding a pole and another was throwing bottles from a beer carton. "I thought he was going to kill me," he said.

"I saw him run down the road towards my partner and hit him on the head with the pole. My friend fell to the ground and went into a seizure. His eyes rolled back in his head, he was convulsing and making sickening moaning noises. It was like nothing I had ever seen."

Denise Kaiti, a lawyer for one of the victims, said: "To think that this behaviour is still occurring in the 21st century is a sad indictment on our society."

AIDS Council of NSW chief executive Stevie Clayton said the incident was just one of an average of five incidents of homophobic vilification reported every month to the organisation's anti-violence report line.

"Only a small proportion, about 15 per cent, of gay and lesbian people who experience violence report it to the police."

She said many were embarrassed or worried about the reception they would receive.

"What we do know from reports compiled by the police and attorney-general's department is that 85 per cent of people in the gay and lesbian community will experience some kind of violence," Ms Clayton said.

Gay men are four times more likely to meet with violence than other men in Sydney.

NSW Anti-Discrimination Board president Stepan Kerkyasharian said it appeared that the violence was fuelled by an increasing number of homophobic websites.

Several well-known gay bars feature on the NSW Bureau of Crime Statistics' top 100 list of most violent bars in NSW.

The Stonewall Hotel on Oxford Street is sixth on the list with 30 violent assaults between January and December last year.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on May 28, 2009, 08:52:35 AM
Backlash for Bash Back

Members of the radical anarchist group Bash Back! Lansing have been served with court orders in a federal lawsuit brought against them for their participation in a Nov. 9 protest in the evangelical Lansing Church Mount Hope Church.

According to Bash Back! Lansing's blog, 23 people with associations with the group have been served with the orders.

The lawsuit alleges that the group violated the Federal Access to Clinic Entrances law, that the protest on Nov. 9 resulted in the intimidation in attendees at the service, and that they violated the church's First Amendment right to freedom of religion in a place of worship.

http://www.pridesource.com/article.shtml?article=35159 (http://www.pridesource.com/article.shtml?article=35159)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on May 28, 2009, 08:58:58 AM
Swedish gay leader beaten at Moldova Pride

The president of the Swedish national gay group RFSL, Soeren Juvas, was beaten up in Chisinau, Moldova, May 11.

He was stopped by police as he left a pub and asked if he was in town for the gay pride events and if he was gay. When he answered both questions in the affirmative, Juvas was taken to a police station, then later released.

As he left the station, Juvas was attacked by a group of men and suffered facial lacerations and bruises on his body.

"The men who attacked him were most likely police in civilian clothing or men who had been informed by the police that Soeren Juvas was going to be outside the police station at that time," said RFSL spokesperson Malinda Flodman.

http://www.pridesource.com/article.shtml?article=35170 (http://www.pridesource.com/article.shtml?article=35170)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on June 01, 2009, 10:26:57 PM
Following a wave of vicious bashings of Indian students in Melbourne, protests by the Indian government and a huge 20-hour demonstration by the Federation of Indian Students in a central Melbourrne intersection, the Victorian attorney-general is introducing hate crime legislation.

It is notable that the legislation will target homophobic and other hate crimes.

Attorney-General Hull has a record of legislating measures for equality for LGBT people and a civil partnership register. (Unfortunately, marriage come sunder federal jurisdiction in Australia.)

'HATE crime could soon be an offence in Victoria as the State Government moves to crack down on violent attacks against Indian students, homosexuals and other targeted groups.

'Under a plan being pushed by Attorney-General Rob Hulls, judges would have to take into account "hatred for or a prejudice against a particular group of people" as an aggravating factor when sentencing offenders.

'Tougher sentences would apply to crimes deemed to be based on victims' race, religion, gender or sexual orientation.


''Mr Hulls hopes to have the new offence inserted into the state Sentencing Act by the end of the year.

'The Age understands Government ministers, distressed at the spate of assaults on Indians in Melbourne, are also considering a longer-term proposal to make "hate crime" a new statutory offence...'

http://www.theage.com.au/national/hulls-plans-hate-crime-crackdown-20090601-bt06.html?page=-1 (http://www.theage.com.au/national/hulls-plans-hate-crime-crackdown-20090601-bt06.html?page=-1)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: lovelyamazing on June 02, 2009, 06:58:20 PM
Horror - A Facebook Group to promote killing of gay men and hatred of LGBT people
http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/06/02/11808
We need to get this banned immediately.

http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/06/02/11808
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 02, 2009, 07:10:04 PM
Maya, there is an update on the link, and it says that Facebook has removed the group's page.


"Update: Well that didn’t take long. Facebook took the page down sometime between 5:20 and 6:45 PST."
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: lovelyamazing on June 02, 2009, 07:45:13 PM
Oh Chuck thanks so much for the update. That is quick work.
 :)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 03, 2009, 01:10:19 AM
Demonstrators Stage Dine-in Where Gay Man Beaten

Dozens of civil-rights activists drove up from Cincinnati to Deerfield Township to spend time at Tabby's Bar and Grill.

It was Tuesday May 26 when 31-year-old Ronnie Robertson had his nose broken in an assault by four people.

Police and prosecutors believe that Robertson was targeted because he is openly gay.

"There was an attack based on an individual's sexual orientation. That is a hate-crime," said Mason city prosecutor Robert Peeler.

So far two women have been arrested, Sarah Goldsboro and Tammy Lingle, for their alleged participation in the attack.

Peeler says two men will soon be arrested for what he calls their involvement.

In the meantime, members of Impact Cincinnati, an organization dedicated to equal rights for the gay community, went inside Tabby's a week after the attack.

"We're basically here to show the community that we won't stand for intolerance and hate and abuse," said Cody Globig.


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http://www.kypost.com/content/wcposhared/story/Demonstrators-Stage-Dine-in-Where-Gay-Man-Beaten/T-KrGXg84kO7t9pbCqHEag.cspx
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 03, 2009, 01:12:22 AM
Bar Fight May Have Been Over Sexual Orientation
Reported by: Deb Silverman
Email: dsilverman@wcpo.com
Last Update: 5/27 9:27 pm

he Warren County Sheriff's Office is investigating what could be a hate crime.

Detectives say a 31-year-old man was beat up at Tabby's Grill and Bar on Montgomery Road in Deerfield Township. They say it may have been over his sexual orientation.

The victim has been treated for injuries to his face.

Two men are suspected in the fight. Detectives have taken surveillance video from the bar in hopes of identifying the two men.

Two women have already been arrested.

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http://www.wcpo.com/content/news/neighborhoods/deerfield_township/story/Bar-Fight-May-Have-Been-Over-Sexual-Orientation/Pgh6_aN0dEm4n4F_9HAUWw.cspx?rss=713
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 07, 2009, 03:58:08 PM
Students heard boy's screams, prosecutor in rape case at Walker Middle tells judge
By Kevin Graham, Times Staff Writer
In Print: Thursday, June 4, 2009

 TAMPA — Students said they heard him scream.

One told investigators the 13-year-old boy fought back, yelled for his attackers to stop and fell to the ground in a defensive position.

Those details emerged Wednesday as four Walker Middle School classmates faced a judge, accused of raping a teammate multiple times with a broom handle and a hockey stick in the school locker room.

Assistant State Attorney Kimberly Hindman outlined the state's case against the four as prosecutors brought adult charges of four counts of sexual battery against each of the juveniles.

She said the state will present evidence that the youngster endured a two-month reign of terror, apparently in silence.

Neither the victim nor witnesses told anyone in authority. And the attackers kept after the 13-year-old, taunting him repeatedly in school hallways: "We're going to get you today," the victim said he was told.

School officials finally learned about the assaults after a fight broke out between the victim and one of his accused attackers over a missed touchdown during flag football practice, the prosecutor said.

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http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/article1006893.ece
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on June 08, 2009, 01:46:23 AM
and it is hillsborough county, so they will all walk.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 08, 2009, 10:23:15 AM
and it is hillsborough county, so they will all walk.

 ???

Could you explain a bit more about that, Jack?

I considered not posting this case, as I didn't see (in my brief look at it) a distinct gay connection, but I also think this sort of thing is a form of terrorism which makes anything associated with anal sex torture.  It reminded me of the case of Michael Mineo in New York.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on June 08, 2009, 12:07:08 PM
hillsborough county, wherein lies tampa, is notorious for its homophobic attitude.

here is a google search for the subject, that, although it doesn't even specify homophobia, is littered with gay pride bans, church and state coalitions and the like.

it doesn't really matter if the victim was gay or so perceived, their locker room manliness is in keeping with, and likely derived from, the anti-gay rhetoric of the city.  to them it is obvious if a man (or boy) is raped, he deserves it.  

HC has now replaced lee county as the chief haven for bigots.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=hillsborough+county+gay&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=hillsborough+county+gay&aqi=&fp=_dMrl8s9eCU
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 08, 2009, 09:10:42 PM
^^^ Thanks Jack....

Calif. Pride Organizer Attacked
By Amita Parashar
June 08, 2009

 San Diego Pride organizer Ron deHarte was attacked Saturday by a man who taunted him with gay slurs and tried to take his pride flag. The incident occurred during the city's Equality Torch Relay, an event held to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the Stonewall uprising.

DeHarte, who is the executive director of San Diego Pride, told The Union-Tribune that the attack "just reinforces why we have to get out here."

According to deHarte, the attack ended when the suspect realized a camera crew from San Diego news station KUSI had been filming. The footage (below) was broadcast on the local news station.

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http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid88915.asp
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 08, 2009, 11:07:35 PM
Oakland Park attackers appear in court
By DMITRY RASHNITSOV
JUN. 4, 2009
South Florida Blade

The two men accused of assaulting two gay men in separate attacks in April had their first appearance in front of a judge on May 28.

Victor Gonzalez, 21, and Pargu Leandro, 25, of Deerfield Beach appeared in Judge Bernard Bobo’s courtroom and both asked for a public defender.  They are charged with one count of attempted murder in the first degree, two counts of robbery and one count of aggravated battery with serious bodily injury.

Melisa Manganelli from the Broward County Public Defenders office represented both of the accused. They will receive different attorneys; typically one will come from the PD’s office and the other will be a private attorney paid for by the state before trail begins, to avoid a conflict of interest.  The accused men are scheduled to appear in front of Judge Bober again at 9 a.m. on Monday June 8, to determine the counsel that will represent them. Jury selection and trail is scheduled for July 6 at 9 am with Judge Bober as well.

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http://www.floridablade.com/2009/6-4/news/localnews/5907.cfm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 16, 2009, 03:36:30 PM
Group: Gay bias killings highest since 1999
By Marcus Franklin
Associated Press
Updated: 06/16/2009 02:43:24 PM CDT

NEW YORK—The number of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people killed in bias-motivated incidents increased by 28 percent in 2008 compared to a year ago, according to a national coalition of advocacy groups.

Last year's 29 killings was the highest recorded by the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs since 1999, when it documented the same number of slayings, according to a report released Tuesday by the coalition.

"What we're also seeing, more disturbingly, is the increase in the severity of violence," said Sharon Stapel, executive director of the New York City Anti-Violence Project, which coordinates coalition.

Stapel theorized that at least some of last year's violence was backlash against issues that arose during the during the presidential campaign. She cited debates about same-sex marriage, the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy, and federal legislation that would ban employment discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity as possible flash points.

"The more visibility there is the more likely we're going to see backlash, and that's exactly what we see here," Stapel said.

Overall, the number of victims who reported anti-LGBT violence in 2008 increased by two percent compared to 2007, said the New York-based coalition of programs in 25 states.

Coalition officials say their figures are more accurate than those from law enforcement agencies. As an example, they say, the FBI doesn't record bias crimes against transgender people because gender identity isn't covered by federal hate-crime law.

Also, victims sometimes are reluctant to report bias incidents to police because they don't want to reveal their sexual orientation or gender identity and/or they fear bias from police, officials said.

Reports of physical abuse by police increased to 25 incidents last year from 10 in 2007, the report said.

For the new report, programs in Milwaukee, Minnesota, Chicago, Los Angeles, Colorado, Columbus, Ohio, Houston, Pennsylvania, New York City, Kansas City, Missouri, Michigan and San Francisco submitted data.

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http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/06/16/group_gay_bias_killings_highest_since_1999/
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on June 22, 2009, 08:22:12 PM
Wellington - A Hungarian tourist killed a 69-year-old gay man he met in a bar by beating him with a banjo and ramming the handle down his throat, police alleged when his murder trial opened in Auckland on Monday.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=24&art_id=nw20090622071738397C699645 (http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=24&art_id=nw20090622071738397C699645)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 23, 2009, 05:03:16 AM
Wellington - A Hungarian tourist killed a 69-year-old gay man he met in a bar by beating him with a banjo and ramming the handle down his throat, police alleged when his murder trial opened in Auckland on Monday.

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=24&art_id=nw20090622071738397C699645 (http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=24&art_id=nw20090622071738397C699645)


oh damn.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 23, 2009, 11:50:47 AM
^^^  Very weird that the article is from South Africa of all places.  And what the bloody hell is a 32 year old doing killing a nearly 70 year old man?  It's not like he couldn't get away from him.  Sounds like a robbery gone south.  Here's some more press on that case:

Tourist on trial over banjo killing of elderly gay man
4:00AM Tuesday Jun 23, 2009
By Andrew Koubaridis

A Hungarian tourist allegedly bashed an elderly gay man with a banjo before ramming the neck of the instrument down his throat after the victim supposedly made sexual advances towards him, a court has heard.

Ferdinand Ambach, a 32-year-old dive master from Hungary, went on trial at the High Court at Auckland yesterday for the murder of Ronald James Brown, 69, in December 2007.

The men met in Onehunga's 306 Bar before they went to a liquor store. After buying beer there they went to Mr Brown's flat in Matiere St and continued drinking.

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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10580179&ref=rss

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on June 23, 2009, 03:21:15 PM
Olivier Meyrou’s BEYOND HATRED on PBS

Olivier Meyrou’s 2006 documentary Au-delà de la haine / Beyond Hatred, an exploration of the effects of a 29-year-old gay man’s brutal murder in the northeastern French city of Rheims, will be shown as part of PBS’ P.O.V. series on Tuesday, June 30, at 10:00 pm.

François Chenu happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. One night in 2002, three skinheads were looking to "do an Arab," but since apparently none could be found in the Rheims park where they were roaming, they settled for a gay man instead. Chenu reportedly fought back fiercely, but even so he was beaten unconscious and thrown into a pond, where he drowned.

http://www.altfg.com/blog/gay/olivier-meyrou-beyond-hatred-pbs/ (http://www.altfg.com/blog/gay/olivier-meyrou-beyond-hatred-pbs/)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 29, 2009, 03:40:09 PM
Pride Weekend Anti-Gay Assault in NYC Leaves Man Bloodied, Beaten
06/28/2009

Joe Holladay, a former Village Voice sales rep, was beaten by a group of men on New York's upper east side on Saturday. The group called Holladay a "faggot" as they beat him, likely with a blunt object.

The Village Voice reports: "Holladay tells us that he walked out of John Jerome's apartment on East 85th Street between York and East End Avenues, where he'd been staying, at about 4 a.m. to smoke a cigarette on the sidewalk, and five or six young men swarmed him. 'It's very blurry,' he says, 'But yeah, they said 'faggot.' And the next thing I know I'm in the hospital.' Jerome, an acting coach, heard the fracas and came downstairs to find his friend 'in a pool of blood. I thought he was dead. He wasn't moving.' Jerome says neighbors in the building told him, and the police, that they saw a group of five or six young white men 'with crewcuts, wearing wife-beaters' smoking pot outside the building just before the incident -- and, drawn to their window by the noise when the beating occurred, heard the anti-gay epithets and saw the young men pile into a car and drive away."

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http://www.towleroad.com/2009/06/pride-weekend-gay-bashing-in-nyc-leaves-man-bloodied-beaten.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 29, 2009, 03:42:15 PM
Gay-Bashed on Pride Weekend on the Upper East Side (Updated)
By Roy Edroso in Crime, Featured, Hate Crime, LGBTQ, NYPD
Sunday, Jun. 28 2009 @ 2:02PM

Our colleague Michael Feingold told us some very bad news today: a former Voice sales rep, Joe Holladay, in town on business, was jumped and beaten Saturday morning by a group of men who called him a faggot.

Holladay tells us that he walked out of John Jerome's apartment on East 85th Street between York and East End Avenues, where he'd been staying, at about 4 a.m. to smoke a cigarette on the sidewalk, and five or six young men swarmed him.

"It's very blurry," he says, "But yeah, they said 'faggot.' And the next thing I know I'm in the hospital."

Jerome, an acting coach, heard the fracas and came downstairs to find his friend "in a pool of blood. I thought he was dead. He wasn't moving."

Jerome says neighbors in the building told him, and the police, that they saw a group of five or six young white men "with crewcuts, wearing wife-beaters" smoking pot outside the building just before the incident -- and, drawn to their window by the noise when the beating occurred, heard the anti-gay epithets and saw the young men pile into a car and drive away.

(More, plus updates, below the fold...)
"They even identified the make and model," says Holladay. "A gold Subaru older model station wagon. They clearly saw what happened." (The witnesses have not returned our calls.)

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http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2009/06/gay-bashed_on_p.php
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Bethie on July 01, 2009, 07:56:53 PM
Here's a news ditty form Fort Worth...

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa090629_mo_raid.1e30e494.html

FORT WORTH - Fort Worth has received national attention after a controversial inspection at a gay bar.

The nation's largest gay and lesbian civil rights organization has called for an investigation, and they're not alone. Council member Kathleen Hicks said she wants the community to know that there is a recourse for complaints such as the ones that arose after officers were accused of violence without just cause.



http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa090701_mo_raid.26e43acc.html

FORT WORTH, Texas - The Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission is investigating its joint raid with Fort Worth police on a gay bar that left one man hospitalized with a head injury.

The agency said Wednesday it started the internal affairs probe to review agents' actions and learn facts surrounding the man's injury.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 01, 2009, 09:45:59 PM
Yes sweets, I've been posting about it over here:

http://www.davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=20110.msg1620449#msg1620449

Although given that the police seem to be beating people up (and then saying they groped them) it's entirely appropriate over here.

Sorry that you won't be coming later this month.  :'( :-*

Here's a news ditty form Fort Worth...

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa090629_mo_raid.1e30e494.html

FORT WORTH - Fort Worth has received national attention after a controversial inspection at a gay bar.

The nation's largest gay and lesbian civil rights organization has called for an investigation, and they're not alone. Council member Kathleen Hicks said she wants the community to know that there is a recourse for complaints such as the ones that arose after officers were accused of violence without just cause.



http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa090701_mo_raid.26e43acc.html

FORT WORTH, Texas - The Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission is investigating its joint raid with Fort Worth police on a gay bar that left one man hospitalized with a head injury.

The agency said Wednesday it started the internal affairs probe to review agents' actions and learn facts surrounding the man's injury.


Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 02, 2009, 01:21:40 PM

While Servicemembers Continue to be Discharged,
Gay Sailor Found Murdered on Military Base


http://www.veteranstoday.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=7730

Quote
Yesterday, the San Diego Union-Tribune reported that the body of openly gay
Seaman August Provost was discovered in a guard shack at Camp
Pendelton.   A “person of interest” in connection to the suspected homicide
is now being held in the Navy brig at Marine Corps Air Station Miramar.
According to Provost’s sister, he had recently complained to his family that
“someone was harassing and bothering him.”   She told him that he should
report it to his supervisor.  According to the Servicemembers Legal Defense
Network, Provost likely didn’t report the harassment because of “Don’t Ask,
Don’t Tell”:

The Navy would not comment on whether Provost’s orientation had anything
to do with the murder.

“While ‘Don’t ask, Don’t tell’ is in place, anybody in the military who is gay
has no place to go to get assistance or counseling,”
said Ben Gomez of Servicemembers Legal Defense Network, an advocacy group for gays in the military.

Now you have blood on your hands, Mr. President.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 05, 2009, 09:17:44 PM
Family remembers victim of hate crime on anniversary of his death
By Alex Sanz / 11 News
July 5, 2009

HOUSTON – As most Americans celebrate the Fourth of July this weekend the family and friends of Paul Broussard are marking the 18th anniversary of his death.  Broussard, who was gay, was killed in 1991 -- the victim of a hate crime.

 “They chased down Paul and two of his friends,” remembered Andy Kahan, of the  Mayor’s Crime Victims Office.  “They beat him.  They hit him with boards.  They kicked him with steel-toe boots.  Then, finally, John Buice pulled out a knife and basically gutted him like a deer.”

Gay rights activists said Broussard’s death, at the hands of a group of teens known as “The Woodlands Ten,” galvanized the community.

continues:

http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/khou090705_gay-right-hate-crimes.1090bdac.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Paul_Broussard
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 05, 2009, 09:20:35 PM
Note that the denial of the hate crime allegation doesn't make the title of the article....

Navy: No evidence sailor's death was terrorism-related
July 3, 2009
LA Times

The Navy said today  there is no indication the shooting death of a sailor standing guard at Camp Pendleton was "terrorist-related" or a hate crime.

Seaman August Provost, 29, of Houston, was fatally shot while standing guard protecting the landing craft facility on base. His body was found at about 3 a.m. Tuesday.

Provost, according to his family and gay-activists, was gay. Two members of Congress, Bob Filner (D-Chula Vista) and Susan Davis (D-San Diego), have asked the military to investigate whether Provost was murdered because he is gay.

continues:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/07/navy-no-evidence-that-murder-of-sailor-was-terrorismrelated.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on July 06, 2009, 08:58:15 AM
Note that the denial of the hate crime allegation doesn't make the title of the article....

Navy: No evidence sailor's death was terrorism-related

I also note that they don't even have a suspect yet, so how can they make that determination??

There's no evidence that it wasn't terrorism realted or a hate crime.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 06, 2009, 03:51:45 PM
Kill A Gay Man Serve 1 Year In Prison

In May of 2007, Sean William Kennedy was walking back to his car when he was attacked and murdered by Stephen Andrew Moller.  As he beat him to death he repeatedly uttered anti gay slurs.

Moller… originally was charged with murder and faced the possibility of life in prison until Greenville County’s chief prosecutor offered the alternate involuntary manslaughter charge after a grand jury found "no malicious intent." The lesser charges carry a maximum sentence of five years.

Of course in his defence, his family claimed that alcohol was the reason that the murder occurred in the first place.  It was even suggested that a prison sentence could “hurt him”, he was after all supporting his nine month old daughter at the time of sentencing.  This  man that stood over Kennedys brain dead body and said, “You tell your faggot friend that when he wakes up he owes me $500 for my broken hand.”

If the facts of the case don’t make you sick, how about the fact that Moller only served one year for the death of  Sean William Kennedy. In fact he was released one week early. He was given credit for the 7 months he served pre-trial and then three years of his five year sentence was suspended.  South Carolina has no hate crimes law.

continues:

http://www.womanist-musings.com/2009/07/kill-gay-man-serve-1-year-in-prison.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 11, 2009, 04:42:17 PM
King’s Killer Offered Plea Deal
Timothy Kincaid
July 10th, 2009

On February 12, 2008, Brandon McInerney walked into his eighth grade classroom and put two bullets in the back of classmate Larry King’s head. His reason? Because Larry King dared to flirt with him.

Ever since that date, his defense has sought every opportunity to portray McInerney as the victim and King as the aggressor. Brandon was just a poor tormented kid who couldn’t take it any more. Newsweek contributed by running a hit-piece on Larry King. He has even been helped by King’s previous guardians who think that by portraying Larry as a threat to all that is heterosexual, they can get money from those who were actually caring for him.

But District Attorney Maeve Fox is refusing to allow Brandon McInerney’s attorneys to portray him as an innocent or to trash the name of Lawrence King and seek to blame him for his own murder.

After the Newsweek article ran portraying McInerney as basically a good kid who “was smart” but “had his share of troubles” (unlike King whom they portrayed as a “flamboyant” disturbance who “flaunted his sexuality and wielded it like a weapon”), Fox released information that revealed an entirely different Brandon McInerney than that portrayed by his attorneys and parroted by an inexperienced and gullible journalist who was more concerned about “the story” than the truth.

    * Investigators seized white supremacist materials, including doodlings of Nazi swastikas, from the bedroom of Brandon McInerney.

    * McInerney looked for others to join in a gang beating of King in the days before the shooting. Unable to find others interested he decided to kill King.

    * McInerney was familiar with the gun with which he killed King, having used it for target practice.

    * It wasn’t until King had suffered months of being called “faggot” by McInerney and others that he began to retort by making sexual taunts to McInerney.

    * Other students heard McInerney threaten to shoot King in the days before he did so.

continues:

http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/07/10/13091
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on July 13, 2009, 06:08:36 PM
Man Acquitted With Gay Panic Defense

A Chicago man who killed his neighbor by stabbing him with a replica dagger 61 times was acquitted of first-degree murder on Friday.

Joseph Biedermann fatally stabbed his neighbor Terrance Hauser last year, and Biedermann’s attorney Sam Adam Jr. argued that his client was acting in self-defense, saying Hauser had threatened him with unwanted sexual advances.

http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid97976.asp (http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid97976.asp)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on July 15, 2009, 04:40:36 PM
25 years ago this week a smoldering anger was kindled in me that hasn't died down yet.

IN MEMORIUM...

charlie howard

http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/110125.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: dback on July 16, 2009, 11:18:12 AM
Man Acquitted With Gay Panic Defense

A Chicago man who killed his neighbor by stabbing him with a replica dagger 61 times was acquitted of first-degree murder on Friday.

Joseph Biedermann fatally stabbed his neighbor Terrance Hauser last year, and Biedermann’s attorney Sam Adam Jr. argued that his client was acting in self-defense, saying Hauser had threatened him with unwanted sexual advances.

http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid97976.asp (http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid97976.asp)

I wish I could remember who said that if straight women reacted to men's advances the way straight men react to gay men's advances, you wouldn't be able to walk for all the bodies.  But American society way too often gives sympathy to poor, "traumatized" straight men who claim that a guy made an advance towards them, and they're excused for "getting carried away" by beating/killing the gay guy.  What crap.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on July 17, 2009, 11:21:50 AM
once again...

http://www.towleroad.com/2009/07/dc-man-charged-with-misdemeanor-in-fatal-assault-of-gay-man.html

i just get SO sick of this shit...
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 17, 2009, 10:52:57 PM
Light Sentence for Suspect in Gay Murder
By Julie Bolcer
July 17, 2009

 A man suspected of murdering a gay man in a street attack in Washington, D.C., last year pleaded guilty to a lesser charge and avoided substantial jail time, reports WLJA-TV.

Robert Hannah (pictured) pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor assault charge on Thursday in the death of Tony Randolph Hunter, who was 37. Invoking a "gay panic" defense, Hannah’s lawyer had argued that Hunter had touched his client inappropriately.

Hunter and two other gay men were attacked while on their way to a gay bar formerly known as BeBar on September 7. Left lying unconscious in the street after the attack, Hunter was taken to Howard University Hospital and died of severe head trauma 10 days later.

continues:

http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid99049.asp
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on July 18, 2009, 01:03:50 AM
same case different link
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: ChrisW on July 18, 2009, 01:10:01 AM
Man Acquitted With Gay Panic Defense

A Chicago man who killed his neighbor by stabbing him with a replica dagger 61 times was acquitted of first-degree murder on Friday.

Joseph Biedermann fatally stabbed his neighbor Terrance Hauser last year, and Biedermann’s attorney Sam Adam Jr. argued that his client was acting in self-defense, saying Hauser had threatened him with unwanted sexual advances.

http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid97976.asp (http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid97976.asp)

I wish I could remember who said that if straight women reacted to men's advances the way straight women react to gay men's advances, you wouldn't be able to walk for all the bodies.  But American society way too often gives sympathy to poor, "traumatized" straight men who claim that a guy made an advance towards them, and they're excused for "getting carried away" by beating/killing the gay guy.  What crap.
I suppose you mean 'straight men react to gay men's advances'. ???
- you're right. Women have to deal with this from a very early age. 'Kick him in the bollocks' is pretty much the advice I recall. But I never had to do it. Polite refusal is about as far as i have ever found necessary. But what usually happens is that women are accused of provoking attention by dressing provocatively, 'she was asking for it' etc. Is it possible to say men were 'asking for it' in that sense? I mean just in ordinary social settings, not gay meeting places.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on July 18, 2009, 04:29:44 AM
chris, it is probably QUITE rare that any of these individuals, on the street at least, was doing any such thing.  this defense is pulled out whenever there is a male male assault, even a two on one or a 200 pound man mauling a 130 pound art teacher... because, in most cases, it continues to work.  the victim's ACTUAL sexual orientation also has little bearing, especially when the charge is murder, as many a sad family has discovered.

as for the home assaults, you can bet your bippy that the offender made the come on in the majority of cases anticipating easy prey.  it would stop if simple logic dictated that even IF there was an approach a taking a life is not an appropriate response, and if churches stopped preaching that gay lives are evil or meaningless.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: ChrisW on July 18, 2009, 04:18:08 PM
Hi Jack,
I wouldn't doubt you for a second. Pathetic, isn't it. I don't think this would work in the UK, I really don't. somehow a gay guy is not a threat to society in the same way.
 
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 19, 2009, 07:24:01 PM
Gays live, and die, in fear in Jamaica

By DAVID MCFADDEN (AP)


KINGSTON, Jamaica — Even now, about three years after a near-fatal gay bashing, Sherman gets jittery at dusk. On bad days, his blood quickens, his eyes dart, and he seeks refuge indoors.

A group of men kicked him and slashed him with knives for being a "batty boy" — a slang term for gay men — after he left a party before dawn in October 2006. They sliced his throat, torso, and back, hissed anti-gay epithets, and left him for dead on a Kingston corner.

"It gets like five, six o'clock, my heart begins to race. I just need to go home, I start to get nervous," said the 36-year-old outside the secret office of Jamaica's sole gay rights group. Like many other gays, Sherman won't give his full name for fear of retribution.

Despite the easygoing image propagated by tourist boards, gays and their advocates agree that Jamaica is by far the most hostile island toward homosexuals in the already conservative Caribbean. They say gays, especially those in poor communities, suffer frequent abuse. But they have little recourse because of rampant anti-gay stigma and a sodomy law banning sex between men in Jamaica and 10 other former British colonies in the Caribbean.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gm1h6OW1D4PwHL8w4DDmNiTQQ1rAD99HL1CG0
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 19, 2009, 07:27:02 PM
Gay-Bashing Church Keeps Going & Going

By JOE HARRIS


ST. LOUIS (CN) - A gay-hating church has filed two more free speech lawsuits against cities in Federal Court. The latest targets are the Village of Riverview and the City of Wentzville.

Shirley Phelps-Roper, a member of Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kan., claims both towns unconstitutional prohibit picketing at funerals.


http://www.courthousenews.com/2009/07/13/Gay-Bashing_Church_Keeps_Going_&_Going.htm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on August 04, 2009, 01:26:17 PM
at least when i take my personal inventory i don't have to say this...

http://jaysays.com/2009/08/murder-of-gay-youths-in-tel-aviv-im-the-one-to-blame/
Quote
But even though Mission America, Pat Robertson or any of the other folks that believe themselves superior to “our kind” are not to blame, there is someone to carry the burden.  Me.

When it gets down to the heart of the issue, I failed these kids.  I failed these kids because I spent 10 years as an openly gay man doing nothing, saying nothing and living complacently while these groups and/or individuals continued to actively pursue demonizing LGBT people (or again, the action of being gay).  I sat by and let Matthew Shepard, Brandon Teena, Gwen Araujo, Paul Broussard, Steen Fenrich, Ronnie Paris, Jason Gage, Sakia Gunn, Michael Sandy, Angie Zapata, James Zappaloti, Arthur Warren, Barry Winchell, Rebecca Wight, Sean Kennedy and countless others be murdered without speaking up.  I was afraid, which is exactly what they want us to be.

Perhaps had I spoken up I could have changed one person’s mind about LGBT people.  Instead of believing LGBT people should be murdered, the person would have seen that we are human too – that when you prick us, we bleed.  Perhaps that person would have changed another person’s mind, and another, and another – and eventually that mind changing would have trickled through to the black-clad man who thought it better to murder LGBT youth than to be one, thought himself superior to those whose lives he took, to those he hurt, to those that still hurt.

he concludes...

Quote
It’s time that we all learn to speak out against the teachings of inferiority.  It’s time we all stand together and say – We’re here to protect our children.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 28, 2009, 08:58:08 AM
Man convicted of attacking gay man in Oak Lawn

12:00 AM CDT on Thursday, August 27, 2009
By JENNIFER EMILY / The Dallas Morning News

A robber who uttered epithets as he beat a gay man in Oak Lawn laughed about the brutal assault in jail phone calls while awaiting trial and said he would pretend to be gay so authorities couldn't say he attacked his victim because of his sexual orientation.

Dallas County jurors convicted Bobby Singleton of aggravated robbery Wednesday and later heard the recordings of the phone call from jail during the punishment phase of his trial.

"[I'll] say I'm a faggot, too," Singleton said in the call to an unidentified woman. "Let 'em prove I ain't gay."

He then spoke about how he and his friend Jonathan Gunter beat Jimmy Dean in July 2008 as Dean walked home. Gunter has been convicted and was sentenced to 30 years in prison. Dean said Singleton inflicted more damage than Gunter by kicking him in the face.

There is no criminal charge in Texas for a hate crime, but it can be used to enhance punishment.


http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/crime/stories/DN-gaybeating_27met.ART.Central.Edition1.4bca92b.html (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/crime/stories/DN-gaybeating_27met.ART.Central.Edition1.4bca92b.html)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 28, 2009, 09:47:37 AM
Justice for Jimmy Lee Dean: Singleton Gets 75 Years for Gay Bashing


Bobby Singleton was sentenced to 75 years in prison (15 more than requested by prosecutors and twice the length of his accomplice Jonathan Gunter) for the July 2008 assault on Jimmy Lee Dean, which left Dean disfigured and forever changed. Singleton and Jonathan Gunter beat Dean and then kicked and stomped on him as he lay unconscious in the street in Dallas' Oak Lawn neighborhood. Gunter was sentenced to 30 years in prison in March.

The details that came out in court this week of Singleton's actions were horrific:

"Dallas County jurors convicted Bobby Singleton of aggravated robbery Wednesday and later heard the recordings of the phone call from jail during the punishment phase of his trial. '[I'll] say I'm a faggot, too,' Singleton said in the call to an unidentified woman. 'Let 'em prove I ain't gay.' He then spoke about how he and his friend Jonathan Gunter beat Jimmy Dean in July 2008 as Dean walked home. Gunter has been convicted and was sentenced to 30 years in prison. Dean said Singleton inflicted more damage than Gunter by kicking him in the face...In the phone call recording, Singleton and the woman laughed about how Dean's 'nose was dangling.' Singleton says he called Dean 'you punk [expletive]' and stomped him two or three times. The woman told Dean that he went too far. 'You did too much,' she said. 'You just went and didn't stop.'"


http://www.towleroad.com/2009/08/justice-for-jimmy-lee-dean-singleton-gets-75-years-for-gay-bashing.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: morrobay on August 29, 2009, 05:10:16 PM
TABC fires 3 over Fort Worth gay bar raid
2 others disciplined after customer in custody seriously injured during June incident.
By Eric Dexheimer

AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF (Austin,TX)


Saturday, August 29, 2009
 
The Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission on Friday fired two agents and an officer for their roles in the chaotic late-night inspection of a Fort Worth gay bar that left a patron with serious head injuries, sustained while in the agents' custody. The agency also suspended its Fort Worth district supervisor for three days without pay and reprimanded its regional captain.

In addition to the disciplinary actions, the beverage commission announced a series of reform measures, including modifications to the agency's use-of-force procedures and agents' work schedules, and enhanced cultural diversity training.

Full story:
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/region/legislature/stories/2009/08/29/0829tabc.html

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 29, 2009, 10:51:04 PM
TABC fires 3 over Fort Worth gay bar raid
2 others disciplined after customer in custody seriously injured during June incident.


Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: brian on September 26, 2009, 01:54:11 PM
Murder in the park: gay bashing feared
http://www.smh.com.au/national/murder-in-the-park-gay-bashing-feared-20090926-g73t.html

This year crime figures showed that gay men were four times more likely to be attacked in NSW than other men. The NSW Anti-Discrimination Board warned that an increasing number of homophobic websites was fuelling violence towards gay men.

Figures show that on average five assaults on gay and lesbian people are reported to authorities every month. At least a further 30 people are attacked each month without making an official complaint.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on September 26, 2009, 05:29:56 PM

Thanks for the update!

so far atlanta's pd and mayor are not being anywhere as forthcoming.
Title: Punshed for being yourself
Post by: tfferg on October 01, 2009, 12:03:30 AM
Punished for being yourself
DENNIS ALTMAN
September 30, 2009

Urgent action is needed to fight a rise in homophobia and hold governments accountable for human rights violations.


THE current president of the United Nations General Assembly, Libya's Ali Abdussalam Treki, has proclaimed that being gay ''is not acceptable''. Leave aside the bad joke that allows the representative of a nasty dictatorial regime to chair the assembly, Treki's comments echo a wave of homophobia that appears to be a strengthening theme in global politics.

In the past week there have been scary reports of mass rapes of suspected lesbians in South Africa, and systematic persecution and killings of suspected homosexuals in Iraq. The week before, a planned gay rights march in Belgrade was cancelled because the Serbian police claimed they could not protect the marchers from attacks from right-wing protesters.

The South African cases ... remind us that even in countries with legal protection against discrimination ... traditional assumptions about sex and gender are used to justify appalling brutality.

....globally there is a tacit alliance between organised Islam and the Catholic Church to prevent what is feared as the legitimisation of homosexuality...

The world has never been as divided in attitudes towards homosexuality. In all Western countries legal prohibitions have been removed, and in some same-sex marriage has become legal. Openly homosexual politicians are increasingly evident, and no mainstream television series seems to be without its gay and lesbian characters.

For many political and religious leaders who dislike what they see as the unnecessary freedoms and hedonism of the West, homosexuality has become a crucial touchstone.

We should not be surprised that regimes such as those of Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe, Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Libya's Muammar Gaddafi rail against homosexuality, which they invoke as a symbol of Westernisation, unlike, for example, shopping malls or DVDs, which they embrace.

Several years ago Brazil, which has an interesting combination of progressive policies and considerable homophobic violence, led a move to include sexuality within the purview of international human rights. An attempt to declare that international human rights should include protection of sexual orientation and gender identity gained 66 votes in the UN, with support coming from almost all Western countries, but only three Asian states: Japan, Nepal and East Timor.

... At a speech earlier this month, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton declared that the US was now engaged in tracking violence against ''the LGBT (lesbian, gay bisexual and transgender) community'', and that the US would push for a Security Council resolution on sexual and gender violence...

....the scope for winning support within the [Asian] region is far greater than might be imagined. At last month's regional AIDS Conference in Bali, Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono spoke of Government support for ''networks of gay, transgender and men who have sex with men''. The Indian High Court has now overturned the colonial laws that criminalised sodomy, and there are moves to follow suit in Papua New Guinea. In practice, many governments in east and South-East Asia have supported groups working within homosexual communities to prevent the spread of HIV, now a major issue for homosexual men across the region.

For most people, homosexual rights seems a minor issue, a distraction from bigger concerns such as global warming and world poverty. But rights are not divisible, and our commitment to them is most tested in the case of people who are marginalised and oppressed.

When the General Assembly rejected the Brazilian motion it did adopt a resolution that condemned killings based on sexual orientation (although 60 countries still voted to delete that part of a larger resolution on extrajudicial executions).

There is an urgency to hold governments to account for their failures to enforce what is surely one of the most basic human rights of all, protection from murder and torture based on one's identity.

Dennis Altman is director of the Institute for Human Security, LaTrobe University.

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/punished-for-being-yourself-20090929-gb0j.html (http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/punished-for-being-yourself-20090929-gb0j.html)

Title: Re: Punshed for being yourself
Post by: Jer009 on October 02, 2009, 10:55:58 AM
Punished for being yourself

For many political and religious leaders who dislike what they see as the unnecessary freedoms and hedonism of the West, homosexuality has become a crucial touchstone.

I don't have any solutions, but it's clear to me that it's BECAUSE of the global gains they gay people have made that there's an increase in this kind of violence. What we're seeing, I hope, is the last gasp of homophobia in the world. (That's cold comfort to the victims, I know.) They feel very threatened--the underpinnings of their morality seems to be under attack from every side.

Of course, religious superstition is the core problem, but I'm not going to open that can of worms here.
Title: Tulsa Man Slashed, Stabbed, Beaten by Gang of Three for Being Gay
Post by: Jer009 on October 20, 2009, 08:32:28 AM
http://www.towleroad.com/2009/10/tulsa-man-slashed-stabbed-beaten-by-gang-of-three-for-being-gay.html
Title: Crash Director Paul Haggis Quits Scientology Over Gay Bashing
Post by: Jer009 on October 26, 2009, 09:20:54 AM
(snip)
As you know, for ten months now I have been writing to ask you to make a public statement denouncing the actions of the Church of Scientology of San Diego. Their public sponsorship of Proposition 8, a hate-filled legislation that succeeded in taking away the civil rights of gay and lesbian citizens of California – rights that were granted them by the Supreme Court of our state – shames us.

http://www.towleroad.com/2009/10/crash-director-paul-haggis-quits-scientology-over-gay-bashing.html

related article:
Scientology Spokesman Tommy Davis Storms Out of ABC Interview

Scientology spokesman Tommy Davis did not have a good weekend. In addition to getting a letter from director Paul Haggis renouncing the cult for gay bashing, ABC's Martin Bashir was mean to him in an interview, asking him questions like "Do you believe that a galactic emperor called Xenu brought his people to earth 75 million years ago and buried them in volcanoes?"

http://www.towleroad.com/2009/10/scientology-spokesman-tommy-davis-storms-out-of-abc-interview.html


Haggis, of course directed Crash, the movie we Brokies love to hate--including me. But he left Scientology over gay bashing? I watched Crash when it came out on DVD, because I didn't want to complain against a movie I had not seen. I don't recall a single gay person in the movie. This in a movie set in L.A. which is crawling with gays. When Crash won Best Picture at the Oscars, I went ballistic along with many of you...including Annie Proulx.

I've had a brush with Scientology, and it left a bad taste in my mouth. Never again!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on October 26, 2009, 09:53:47 PM

Uganda Action Alert: Dismiss the Anti-Homosexuality Bill
10/16/2009

The Issue:

The Ugandan Parliament is now considering a homophobic law that would reaffirm penalties for homosexuality and criminalize the "promotion of homosexuality." The Anti-Homosexuality Bill of 2009 targets lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) Ugandans, their defenders and anyone else who fails to report them to the authorities whether they are inside or outside of Uganda. The International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission (IGLHRC) and Sexual Minorities of Uganda (SMUG) are calling for the swift dismissal of the bill and human rights protections for all Ugandans, regardless of their sexual orientation or gender identity.

Informaton and contacts for action: http://www.iglhrc.org/cgi-bin/iowa/article/takeaction/globalactionalerts/989.html (http://www.iglhrc.org/cgi-bin/iowa/article/takeaction/globalactionalerts/989.html)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on October 27, 2009, 07:55:17 PM


A man who was attacked in a suspected homophobic assault died last night when doctors switched off his life support machine.

Ian Baynham, 62, was walking through Trafalgar Square in Central London with a 30-year-old friend when a woman began shouting homophobic abuse at him.

He went to talk to her but she attacked him and a man with her is said to have punched him to the floor and then kicked him. A second young woman was also involved in the incident.

Mr Baynham, from Beckenham, southeast London, was taken to hospital after the attack two weeks ago suffering from severe brain damage.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6874257.ece (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6874257.ece)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on November 12, 2009, 11:10:17 PM
Police: Marine reservist attacks visiting Greek priest
By JOSH POLTILOVE 
The Tampa Tribune
Published: November 10, 2009

TAMPA - The priest was lost in the Channel District and needed directions to Interstate 275, so he tapped a U.S. Marines reservist on the arm and, in a thick Greek accent, asked for help.

That's how police say the incident began.

But Lance Cpl. Jasen Bruce said the man, who was wearing a robe, sandals and a long beard, propositioned him in English and grabbed his genitals.

Both versions of events end the same way – with the priest recovering from a beating with a tire iron, the Marine reservist under arrest and police investigating a possible hate crime.

The Rev. Alexios Marakis, visiting from Greece, had performed a blessing of a retired Greek priest in the West Shore area before accidentally exiting I-275 into downtown Monday evening, police said. Marakis followed cars into the Seaport Channelside Apartments on Twiggs Street and got out to ask for help.

Bruce, a reservist with a West Palm Beach unit since March, had his trunk open so he could get dry cleaning out, police said. Bruce, who lives in the apartment building, was not in uniform.

Bruce grabbed a tire iron from the trunk, hit Marakis four times over the head and chased him about three blocks before pinning the priest, police said.

In a 911 call, Bruce made a derogatory comment about a man he said was a terrorist and was trying to rob him and had grabbed him in a sexual manner, police spokeswoman Laura McElroy said.

When officers arrived, police say, Bruce told them he heard the man say "Allahu Akbar" – Arabic for "God is great."

"That's what they say before they blow you up," Bruce said, according to police.

continues:

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/nov/10/102259/tampa-police-marine-reservist-attacks-visiting-gre/

Here, btw, are photos of the reservist on a softcore website (NSFW):

http://madabouttheboys.blogspot.com/2008/10/jasen-bruce.html

Can you say 'he has issues?'  I knew you could.


Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on November 13, 2009, 07:30:42 AM
home sweet nuthouse
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on November 16, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
Gay Teen Decapitated, Dismembered and Burned in Puerto Rico

On November 14 the body of a gay 19 year old was found a few miles away from the town in which he was residing in called Caguas.  He was a very well known person in the gay community of Puerto Rico, and very loved.  He was found on the site of an isolated road in the city of Cayey, he was partially burned, decapitated, and dismembered, both arms, both legs, and the torso.
The police agent that is handling this case said on a public televised statement that "people who lead this type of lifestyle need to be aware that this will happen".

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/14102/gay-teen-decapitated-dismembered-and-burned-in-puerto-rico (http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/14102/gay-teen-decapitated-dismembered-and-burned-in-puerto-rico)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: estefue on November 17, 2009, 12:26:06 PM
Not terribly surprised.  I recall a few years ago GOAL (the gay cops) was planning an event in San Juan and the local police were quite disparaging.  I just read the paper and it appears they caught the perp.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: jack on November 18, 2009, 01:06:42 AM
and said perp, if i understood correctly, indicated he was offended by his gayness.  what is spanish for gay panic?
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 18, 2009, 07:27:48 PM
Gay Teen Decapitated, Dismembered and Burned in Puerto Rico

On November 14 the body of a gay 19 year old was found a few miles away from the town in which he was residing in called Caguas.  He was a very well known person in the gay community of Puerto Rico, and very loved.  He was found on the site of an isolated road in the city of Cayey, he was partially burned, decapitated, and dismembered, both arms, both legs, and the torso.
The police agent that is handling this case said on a public televised statement that "people who lead this type of lifestyle need to be aware that this will happen".

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/14102/gay-teen-decapitated-dismembered-and-burned-in-puerto-rico (http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/14102/gay-teen-decapitated-dismembered-and-burned-in-puerto-rico)


For any NYC/NJ members who want to attend, a vigil for Jorge Steven Lopez Mercado on Sunday the 22nd.  It will happen at 5pm on Pier 45 by Christopher Street.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/dailymusto/archives/2009/11/vigil_for_jorge.php
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on November 20, 2009, 04:58:31 AM

Beenie man is a product of entrenched homophobia in Jamaica


An excellent article by Overland editor, Jeff Sparrow, explains the causes of Jamaican  homophobia.

http://www.rodneycroome.id.au/other_more?id=3073_0_2_0_M18 (http://www.rodneycroome.id.au/other_more?id=3073_0_2_0_M18)

The article was inspirded by the wirhdrawal of the invitation to perform at the forthcoming Big Day Out summer concerts in Australia (because of the performer's continued homophobic lyrics) and uninformed media articles arguing about the decision.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 14, 2009, 01:02:25 AM
Activists, politicians mark anniversary of Ecuadorian immigrant’s death
by Michael K. Lavers
National News Editor
Saturday Dec 12, 2009

Dozens of activists, politicians and relatives of hate crimes victims were among those who turned out earlier today at Make the Road New York in Brooklyn to mark the anniversary of José Sucuzhañay’s death.

"I’m here today with much sadness," Diego Sucuzhañay said in Spanish. "This is the season we lost our beloved brother. He was the leader of our family."

Sucuzhañay further spoke about the impact his brother’s murder has had on his young niece and nephew.

"This year, José’s kids will not receive the merry Christmas their dad always gave them," he said.

Hakim Scott and Keith Phoenix allegedly used anti-gay and anti-Latino slurs as they beat José Sucuzhañay with a baseball bat and broken bottles on Dec. 7, 2008, as he and his brother Romel walked arm and arm near the corner of Bushwick Avenue and Kossuth Place. The Ecuadorian immigrant died in a Queens hospital two days later. And hundreds of people marched down Myrtle Avenue less than a week after José Sucuzhañay’s death to demand justice.

"Hate in my community is entirely unacceptable," City Councilmember Diana Reyna [D-Bushwick] said.

Congresswoman Nydia Velázquez agreed as she spoke of the need for the White House to pass what she described as comprehensive immigration reform.

"This is our moral obligation," she said. "I cannot look in the eye the mother José or [Marcelo] Lucero, who was killed on Long Island [in Nov. 2008]... and say I’m sorry this is not the right time. It is the right time."

continues:

http://www.edgedallas.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=news&sc3=&id=100020
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 14, 2009, 01:03:50 AM
Jackson Heights bar bouncers allegedly beat prominent gay activist

Roughly two months after two men allegedly beat a College Point man into a coma, bouncers at a Jackson Heights bar reportedly assaulted a prominent local activist because he was dancing with his partner.

Tarlach MacNiallais of the Irish Lesbian and Gay Organization has alleged two security guards at Guadalajara de Noche on Roosevelt Avenue in Jackson Heights assaulted him early Saturday, Dec. 5. Blogs and local media reported the two men wrestled MacNiallais to the ground and dragged him off the dance floor before they punched and kicked him. The security guards also allegedly smashed a chair over MacNiallais' head.

This attack is the latest in a series of anti-LGBT assaults that have rocked Queens in recent months.

continues:

http://www.boyinbushwick.blogspot.com/2009/12/jackson-heights-bar-bouncers-allegedly.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 14, 2009, 01:09:47 AM
Jack Price Gay Beating: Daniel Aleman, Daniel Rodriguez Arrested For Hate Crime Attack (VIDEO)
Huffington Post   |  David Weiner
First Posted: 10-14-09 09:51 AM   |   Updated: 10-14-09 12:04 PM

Shocking video of the brutal beating of Jack Price has been released just as news of a second arrest in the case was announced.

Daniel Rodriguez was taken into custody in Norfolk, VA Tuesday night. He had eluded police since his alleged partner in crime Daniel Aleman was arrested and charged with aggravated assault as a hate crime on Sunday.

Police say the suspects perpetrated the unconscionable beating early Friday morning after yelling anti-gay slurs at Price at a deli near his College Point home.

Price suffered a broken jaw, fractured ribs, a lacerated spleen, and the "collapse of both of his lungs." He identified his attackers before being placed in a medically-induced coma.

The video shows the men repeatedly punching and stomping Price as he tries to fend off his attackers. At one point in the video, a car that looks to be a livery taxi drives right by the assault without stopping.

continues:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/14/jack-price-gay-beating-da_n_320454.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 06, 2010, 10:20:21 AM
Police look for local man in possible hate crime beating
Tuesday, January 05, 2010
Lisa Amin Gulezian 
KGO

SANTA CRUZ, CA (KGO) -- Police are looking for a Bay Area man suspected of a hate crime. He is wanted for giving a guy a beating in a bar. The question for police is: was it because the victim is gay?

There is a $50,000 warrant out for Cole White. Police say he is responsible for attacking a man simply because of his sexual orientation.

"I have bruises and cuts up and down my sides as well as my face, along with a broken nose," says Chris, the victim.

Chris didn't want to be identified on camera, but he did agree to tell ABC7 what happened to him just after midnight Sunday morning, in downtown Santa Cruz.

"Right in front of the Blue Lagoon, the person started yelling 'fag' at me," says Chris.

The Blue Lagoon is a popular gay-friendly bar. Chris says he was near the bar when Cole White started aggressively yelling profanities at him. Chris says he took a photo of White on his cell phone, which made the suspect even angrier.

"I turned to the person and I said, 'You know what? I am gay, I'm walking down the street, and I'm sorry you have a problem with it.' And he started to come at me," says Chris.

White's friends apparently held him back and Chris went into the bar. Moments later, White also walked into the Blue Lagoon. Witnesses say he violently punched and kicked Chris even after he fell to the ground.

continues:

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?id=7203126&section=news/local/south_bay
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 07, 2010, 04:14:56 AM
I hope they find him!  fucker!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on January 17, 2010, 06:07:54 AM
distressing as hell.  :P :P :P :-X :">


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViCueBMl8XQ

Human rights violation: Alleged thieves slapped, forced to kiss, hair clipped off

On Friday, October 16th, 2009, someone anonymously posted a number of videos on YouTube purportedly showing the homophobic and violent humiliation of five young men who were allegedly caught after robbing a house.

Category:  News & Politics

Tags:  Tepic  Mexico  homophobia
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 17, 2010, 08:59:17 AM
Jesus..........
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 17, 2010, 05:58:47 PM
Hot debate reignited
Firefighters in gay-bashing controversy may return to service


by E. Assata Wright


Secaucus Mayor Michael Gonnelli said he is awaiting a legal opinion from Town Attorney Frank Leanza and a labor attorney regarding whether Secaucus can reinstate three former volunteer firefighters who resigned in a hail of controversy in August 2008.

The attorneys are reviewing a written request by the members of the North End firehouse on Paterson Plank Road to reinstate Charles Snyder Sr., Charles Snyder Jr., and Charles Mutschler.

The request from Engine Co. 2/Rescue Co. 1 was sent to former Mayor Richard Steffens in December.

Though criminal charges were never brought against them, the three firefighters were implicated in alleged harassment against a gay couple who sued Secaucus and won a hefty judgment a year and a half ago.

http://hudsonreporter.com/pages/full_stories_home/push?article-Hot+debate+reignited-Firefighters+in+gay-bashing+controversy+may+return+to+service-%20&id=5572521&instance=secaucus_story_left_column
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 17, 2010, 06:04:25 PM
Buffalo woman stabbed in eye in gay-bashing incident

By Lou Michel

A Buffalo woman was stabbed in her right eye after she and two friends were attacked by two gay-bashing women outside a downtown club following a New Year's Eve celebration.

Lindsay C. Harmon said she and two friends were minding their own business as they walked out of Roxy's, a lesbian nightclub, at about 2 a.m. Friday to head home when two women, in the company of four men, shouted gay slurs at them and then attacked them.

Harmon, a 29-year-old West Side resident, does not have vision in her eye, and it is not known whether she will regain it. She has seven stitches in her right eyelid and eye, along with several stitches in her right cheek and her left arm.


http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/913251.html?imw=Y
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on January 18, 2010, 04:38:03 AM
a buffalo woman (http://www.goddessgift.net/images/Goddess%20White%20Buffalo%20Wmn.jpg) LOL. for a second there i thought it was a reservation crime. ;)

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

but seriously... it's really scary how things get so out of hand on what should be just a nice night out with friends. i hope they catch the woman that committed the hate crime. no doubt she was drunk off her ass... ::) :P

i can't believe the number of gay bashings that have been occurring lately. and the sad thing is that most of them go unreported. especially the minor ones, like the bullying at school, and the random harassment that occurs in everyday places. i think i told you about the two guys at the bus stop that were harassing another commuter.

they were calling him homophobic names and thowing empty cans, cups, trash, and other things like small rocks at him to get him to run away. screaming at him even when he was across the street, calling him faggot and other things. and this was in broad daylight on a major street in in hollywood. i was in my car, and watched as the victim walked in front of my vehicle in the crosswalk. it wasn't like he was totally scared; it was as if he had to keep his composure in dealing with this. he didn't look overtly "gay" or anything. but the two attackers were definitely straight types. not to stereotype, not like they had pamela anderson t shirts or anything, but they weren't exactly.. metro. anyway. that is not the only time i have seen or heard this type of behavior. but most people just look away...

it makes me wonder. what if they were throwing rocks and cans at an old woman of 80? would more people feel more concerned, or would they, too, fear the attackers themselves and just keep quiet and look away?

what could i have done instead of just drive away angry? could i have videotaped it, followed them on the bus? call the police, take pictures, describe who they were? maybe get up front in their faces and see if they could get them to repeat the behavior again? no, that would be baiting them...  (i think about the guy in northern california that squirted water on his neighbor and got severely beat up). would it be worth it, just to catch these two and somehow have them arrested? would the cops even care? if i got a homophobic cop, i could see them just telling me to go away.  i could see a cop, even a gay cop, say it wouldn't be worth it to pursue the case... not worth my time. no proof, nobody really hurt, it turned out fine. no lessons to be learned, no fines or jail time. :P

i mean, you can't throw bottles at another person in public, can you? isn't that a crime? if they don't hit the victim, is it okay? can't they at least get a ticket for littering?  nobody even minds.

who was the guy that squirted the man that had been harassing him and calling him names? i forgot his name, but it made national news, because the victim set up his video camera and got the incident on tape. i thought it was sort of a seedy thing to do, to trick a neighbor by taunting him into committing the crime. but it did draw attention on gay bashing in a sort of sensationalist, TV hollywood sort of way. i guess the man had had enough of the harassment and decided to do something about it. well, it stopped all right.. (the victim got his revenge and a couple of black eyes, and he went on talk shows and sold the video he shot to TV studios!)

hmm.. i can't find the article about the hose squirter guy. it happened in the early nineties, i think. but i found this, from last year:
 

What Can Stop the Gay-Bashing in the Military?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathaniel-frank/what-can-stop-the-gay-bas_b_295170.html
 
"The military doesn't even think that what happened was wrong. In fact, the military leader who oversaw and perpetrated these acts against Rocha, Chief Petty Officer Michael Toussaint, was promoted to Senior Chief following the incident, even though the military was fully aware of all that happened. Toussaint was implicated in other incidents as well, including handcuffing a female sailor to a bed and forcing her to simulate lesbian sex with another woman, also while on video. One of the women later committed suicide.'

but NOBODY CARES MOST OF THE TIME... it reminds me of this saying that we hear off and on:

I DON'T MIND GAY PEOPLE AS LONG AS THEY DON'T ACT GAY.

turn it around: i don't mind straight people as long as they don't act straight. it's silly, isn't it? but so many people in this world agree with the above red-colored line.
Title: Buju Banton: Grammy Loser
Post by: Jer009 on February 01, 2010, 11:09:20 AM
(snip)
We'll never know if GLAAD's campaign against murder music star Buju Banton's Grammy nomination is at least partially to credit for his loss tonight, but the happy fact is that there will be no celebration in Banton's Florida prison cell tonight where he awaits trial for conspiracy to traffic eleven pounds of cocaine.

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/02/buju-banton-grammy-loser.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: mouk on February 11, 2010, 07:43:52 AM
HELP STOP GAY DEATH LAW IN UGANDA

This is a petition calling on the Ugandan government to withdraw a proposed anti-gay law that would punish gay people with prison -- or even death.

There are only a few days left. Please sign the petition below -- it will be delivered to Uganda's president and to Ugandan embassies and consulates around the world:

http://www.avaaz.org/en/uganda_rights/96.php

Thanks!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on February 11, 2010, 06:14:23 PM
Signed it!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on February 12, 2010, 09:16:04 AM
Bronze Star recipient Benjamin Ford, accused in West Side gay bashing, is stripped of rank

BY Rocco Parascandola and John Lauinger


A Bronze Star recipient accused in a West Side gay bashing has been punished by the military and stripped of his rank, City Council Speaker Christine Quinn confirmed Wednesday.

Air Force Staff Sgt. Benjamin Ford, a master at defusing bombs, accepted the charges against him rather than face a court-martial, said victim Blake Hayes, who was informed of the punishment by an Air Force Lt. colonel.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/02/04/2010-02-04_air_force_sarge_stripped_of_rank.html


Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on February 12, 2010, 09:20:47 AM
No gay bashing: Sheriff Scott says he meant no disrespect to Lee commissioner in e-mail

By CHARLIE WHITEHEAD

Posted February 11, 2010 at 1:44 p.m. , updated February 11, 2010 at 7:40 p.m.


FORT MYERS — Lee County Sheriff Mike Scott and Commissioner Brian Bigelow are not on the same ballot. Scott was re-elected in 2008, and Bigelow is seeking his second term this year.

That doesn’t mean they’re not running against each other.

Bigelow offered a comment Wednesday during a county goals workshop, saying the sheriff’s $160 million budget should be subject to the same intense scrutiny the county departmental budgets are.

“He’s already contributed to one of my opponents so I’m not going to stop pointing him out,” Bigelow said.

When Scott heard the comment Wednesday night, he fired off an e-mail to the commissioner. He said he was “appalled” that Bigelow would say such a thing in an open meeting discussing the county budget.

“Regardless of why you said when you did, let me remind you that my political inclinations should be no more of a factor in our professional relationship than religion, sexual preference, my favorite food, or any number of other variables independent of the business at hand,” Scott wrote.

Bigelow is openly gay. Scott said he didn’t know that for sure when he sent the e-mail, but added that it should be no more of a factor than his $250 campaign contribution to long-time friend Sonny Haas, who is running against Bigelow.


http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2010/feb/11/gay-bashing-sheriff-scott-says-he-meant-harm/
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 12, 2010, 01:29:44 PM
Quote
Benjamin Ford, a master at defusing bombs

Apparently he's not a master at defusing the bomb that is "himself."
What dynamic is at work that allows you to do "The Hurt Locker" type
work, but cannot interact with other human beings in public.  That
film does indicate that people like this cannot adequately deal with
mundane human relationships like their own families...

In the beginning of the film there is a quote from someone about
war "being a drug".  Notice that B.F. decided to accept the charges
against him rather than face a court-martial
.  In other words, he
didn't want his drug to be taken away from him.
Title: Parents Sue To End Anti-Bullying Course
Post by: Jer009 on February 26, 2010, 09:38:02 AM
(snips)

Two parents are suing the Alameda County school district in California because they don't want kids to be taught that it's wrong to beat up gay kids.

Lesson 9 is a once a year 45-minute presentation that suggests respect for all students. THAT is what they are suing about.

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/02/parents-sue-to-end-anti-bullying-course.html
Title: "Ex-Gay" Group to Oversee Day of Truth
Post by: Jer009 on March 03, 2010, 04:38:26 PM
(snip)

GLSEN representatives see the competing event differently. “We find it unfortunate that the ADF and now Exodus International tries to spin a message counter to ours, that anti-LGBT bullying is wrong,” GLSEN spokesman Daryl Presgraves said. “Students today feel more welcome and accepted, and have a sense of belonging that didn’t exist 20 years ago. Part of the Day of Truth is to take away from that, to spread the mistruths about 'conversion therapy.'”

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/03/02/Ex_Gay_Group_to_oversee_Day_of_Truth/
Title: ONE WORD
Post by: BooneHomes on April 01, 2010, 04:36:31 PM
ok maybe 3....REAL FREAKING IGNORANT!!!
Title: Re: ONE WORD
Post by: jim ... on April 02, 2010, 03:46:11 AM
ok maybe 3....REAL FREAKING IGNORANT!!!

welcome BooneHomes to the forum.  I hope you'll take the time to read about the forum, its' rules and various boards/threads.  Should you have any questions, I'd be happy to help out!  welcome again ...
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 02, 2010, 05:57:40 AM
Man acquitted of assault on drag performer

The Ottawa Citizen

OTTAWA — After less than three hours of deliberating, an Ottawa jury has acquitted Andrew Ronald Lefebvre of assault after a fight that left celebrated Ottawa drag performer Michael Marcil unconscious at the bottom of a flight of stairs at the Centretown Pub.


“I’m just relieved. I’m just glad it’s all over,” said Lefebvre after the acquittal Thursday.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/health/acquitted+assault+drag+performer/2752968/story.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 02, 2010, 06:00:54 AM
Kandola pleads guilty

Jeremy Hainsworth


The man accused of aggravated assault in the vicious gaybashing of Jordan Smith in Vancouver in September 2008 has pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of assault causing bodily harm.
"You admit you committed the assault causing bodily harm of Mr. Jordan Smith," BC Supreme Court Justice Bill Smart asked Michael Kandola.

"Yes," said Kandola, appearing by closed circuit TV March 31.

Kandola sat quietly for the rest of the proceedings, clad in orange prison garb and sporting a new beard.

http://www.xtra.ca/public/Vancouver/Kandola_pleads_guilty-8447.aspx
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 02, 2010, 06:04:23 AM
Norman gay rights activist was ‘good guy,’ friend says

Man found dead in Norman apartment

BY NOLAN CLAY   



A Norman man who sued to get "IM GAY” on his car tag has died.   Keith Kimmel, 28, was found dead Wednesday morning at a friend’s apartment in Norman, police reported. Police detectives were investigating.

The gay activist’s lawsuit gained him national attention in February. He dropped the Oklahoma County lawsuit two weeks after filing it. He said he was changing attorneys and intended to file it again in federal court.

"I want to tell people who I am and what I am. I’m proud of it. I’m openly gay. I’m not hiding,” he said in February.


http://www.newsok.com/norman-gay-rights-activist-was-good-guy-friend-says/article/3450530?custom_click=pod_headline_crime
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on April 30, 2010, 09:38:21 PM
So it appears that even when you've got marriage rights you don't get away from the nutjobs (btw, 17 months seems a bit light of a sentence to me):

B.C. gay basher gets 17-month sentence

A Vancouver man who pleaded guilty to gay-bashing has been sentenced to 17 months in jail for what a B.C. Supreme Court judge deemed a hate crime.

Michael Kandola lashed out at Jordan Smith, who was holding hands with another man as they walked on a downtown Vancouver street in September 2008.

Smith, then 27, suffered jaw fractures. The victim and witnesses said Kandola, then 20, uttered a string of homophobic slurs during the attack.

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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/04/30/bc-kandola-sentence.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 06, 2010, 07:57:13 PM
I hope NBC follows up on this:

D.C. Principal Murdered by Man He Met on Phone-Sex Line
by Kilian Melloy
Thursday May 6, 2010

Brian Betts, a popular principal of a Washington, D.C. school, was murdered in his home after reportedly meeting someone on a gay phone chat line. Three teens have been arrested as suspects; the mother of one teen has been charged for using the victim’s credit card.

The slaying took place in the wake of a similar killing in which a gay man, Anthony Perkins, was shot to death on Dec. 27, 2009, after arranging a meeting with someone he’d met on a phone chat line called DC Raven. Washington, D.C.-based GLBT service organization The Center issued an April 23 warning to the city’s gay residents through it GLOV ("Gays and Lesbians Opposing Violence") program, reported the MetroWeekly on that same day.

The Center’s advisory warned readers that, ""In light of the recent murders of Anthony Perkins and Brian Betts, Gays and Lesbians Opposing Violence (GLOV) has reason to believe that gay men who arrange sexual encounters through websites, chat rooms, or apps may be being targeted for violent crime. While the Internet and phone ’chat rooms’ offer a non-threatening environment to meet people, it can also provide opportunities for criminals to prey upon unsuspecting victims," the advisory continued. "GLOV urges individuals who use the Internet as a place for meeting acquaintances or sexual encounters to be aware of their surroundings, talk on the phone prior to meeting in a public place, and notify friends of your whereabouts."

continues:

http://www.edgedallas.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=news&sc3=&id=105440

Here's the earlier show on NBC:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#36639947
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 12, 2010, 04:08:22 PM
 ::)

Guilty plea in gay teen's decapitation
By The Associated Press
Last Updated: May 12, 2010 3:54pm

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico (AP) — A man accused of decapitating a gay teenager and burning his body pleaded guilty to first-degree murder on Wednesday and was sentenced to 99 years in prison.

The case had gained national attention because activists demanded that U.S. authorities prosecute it as a hate crime, with supporters holding vigils in a dozen cities including New York and Los Angeles.

Police said Juan Martinez Matos, 26, told them he hated homosexuals but that he had offered the victim cocaine in exchange for sex.

continues:

http://www.torontosun.com/news/world/2010/05/12/13923831.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 12, 2010, 06:36:36 PM
If I said what I really wanted to say here, I'm sure I'd offend people.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: estefue on May 13, 2010, 09:42:45 AM
Wouldn't offend me and i'm the one with the vested interest...
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on May 28, 2010, 03:26:11 AM
i always love/hate the anti gay comments on youtube. this is in response to 12 year old greyson chance singing paparazzi at his school talent show:


haileighross08      4 minutes ago

fag.faggot..cum chugger....queer butt slut....fag whore....lady gaga is a slut...this kid is fag....God hates queers



yes. and it's all because the bible tells her so... ::)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on June 02, 2010, 11:06:33 PM

Anti gay hate crime rife in Qld: study
June 3, 2010 - 2:54PM
AAP

Abuse and harassment of homosexual, bisexual and transgender people is rife in Queensland, a new study shows.

A survey of 1100 lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, intersex and queer (LGBTIQ) people by Griffith and Bond University researchers found that the overwhelming majority had been victims of targeted harassment as well as physical and sexual abuse.

And attitudes towards them aren't changing, with 53 per cent saying they had been victimised in the past two years.

Details of the study and recommendations have been compiled in a book, Speaking Out: Stopping Homophobic and Transphobic Abuse in Queensland, to be released in Brisbane on June 9.

Griffith University researcher Dr Alan Berman told AAP that respondents reported being abused while in public, the workplace and school and university.

"The majority of perpetrators are likely to be young males with no prior relationship to the victim, raising questions about the links between homophobic and transphobic abuse and insecure concepts of masculinity on the part of offenders," Dr Berman said.

The report found 75 per cent of LGBTIQs who were victims didn't report the harassment or attacks to authorities or didn't seek professional assistance.

Meanwhile, LGBTIQs living in certain parts of Queensland are more at risk.

Of the respondents in Brisbane, 72 per cent reported harassment or violence in the last two years.

The figure was 50 per cent on the Sunshine Coast, 40 per cent in north Queensland and 38 per cent on the Gold Coast.

The report, prepared with Bond University researcher Dr Shirleene Robinson, makes 36 recommendations, including a television advertising campaign promoting LGBTIQ as an asset for the state.

Dr Berman also wants to see hate crime become a criminal offence, with tough penalties.

"Law alone does not change the rate of crime - there needs to be a change in law enforcement agencies' culture and the general population's attitudes to prevent such devastating crimes," Dr Berman said.

(snip)


http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-national/antigay-hate-crime-rife-in-qld-study-20100603-x2d4.html[/url]
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 06, 2010, 10:13:55 PM
Cops: Gay couple attacked in Piedmont Park
By Chelsea Cook
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

One man and five minors were arrested in Piedmont Park on Friday night after an assault and robbery of a gay couple, according to an Atlanta police report.

At approximately 10 p.m.,  Jarvis Johnson, 19, and five other males ranging in age from 13 to 17 approached two men having a picnic in Piedmont Park, asked if they were gay and then threatened them, the report states. The suspects then began to attack each individual separately.

"We were just finishing up dinner and playing cards when they came up to us and asked if we were gay," Joshua Noblitt, 32, told the AJC on Tuesday. "It wasn't very organized. I don't know if they thought gay men in the park would be an easy target based on stereotypes and stuff, or what."

continues:

http://www.ajc.com/news/cops-gay-couple-attacked-565489.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 09, 2010, 09:11:42 PM
245 Year Sentence in Slaying of Three Newark College Students
09 July 2010

The first defendant convicted in the gruesome 2007 execution-style slayings of three Newark college friends—and attacking and sexually assaulting a fourth, who survived—was sentenced Thursday to three consecutive life terms in prison plus 20 years. The 245-year-sentence means Rodolfo Godinez must serve at least 218 years for his convictions on murder, felony murder, robbery and weapons charges.

{snip}

Godinez is the first of three adults and three teens to be tried for the violent gang initiation. In 2007, Rod 2.0 reported one of the teen suspects attended  high school with one of the gay victims—and this may have been among the reasons the victims were targeted. Prosecutors declined to file hate crime charges because the victims' families "did not want" the deceased identified as gay.

full story here:

http://rodonline.typepad.com/rodonline/2010/07/245-year-sentence-in-slaying-of-three-newark-college-students.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 10, 2010, 10:58:33 AM

Sad.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on July 11, 2010, 04:08:29 AM
mugged by a 13 year old.  :-\
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on July 19, 2010, 12:18:13 AM
17 Dead at Gay Party in Mexico

A party in the northern Mexican city of Torreón that was organized by a gay group on Facebook ended in a bloodbath early Sunday morning when gunmen opened fire, killing 17 men and women and injuring 18 others.

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/07/18/17_Dead_at_Gay_Party_in_Mexico/ (http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/07/18/17_Dead_at_Gay_Party_in_Mexico/)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 19, 2010, 01:45:16 AM
^^^ However, Mexico being what it is these days, it seems that the key factor may have been the publicity about the event and not the sexuality of the people involved - i.e. a drug war killing, not a gay bashing - re:

Officials say gunmen kill 17 at party in Mexico
By OSCAR VILLALBA, Associated Press Writer Oscar Villalba, Associated Press Writer   – 1 hr 8 mins ago

PIEDRAS NEGRAS, Mexico – The gunmen did not say a word as they jumped from their cars and stormed the private party. They simply opened fire. When they were done, 17 people lay dead and 18 wounded.

Sunday's massacre in the city of Torreon was ghastly, but no longer unprecedented in northern Mexico, a region that is slammed day after day by gruesome slayings that authorities attribute to an increasingly brutal battle between drug gangs feuding over territory.

Investigators had no suspects or information on a possible motive in the attack, but Coahuila, where Torreon is located, is among several northern Mexican states that have seen a spike in drug-related violence as the Gulf cartel and its former enforcers, the Zetas, fight for control of drug-trafficking routes.

The attack on the party came just three days after a car bomb killed several people in the northern city of Ciudad Juarez — and a little more than a month after assailants raided a drug-rehab center in the northern city of Chihuahua, killing 19 people in cold blood.

Television footage showed the patio of the house in Torreon streaked with bloodstains and white plastic chairs overturned beneath a party tent decorated with pictures of snowmen.

Several of the victims were young and some were women, police said, but their identities and ages had not yet been determined.

The assailants arrived in a convoy of vehicles, the Coahuila state Attorney General's Office said in a statement. Police found more than 120 bullet casings at the scene, most of them from .223-caliber weapons.

Torreon is no stranger to violence.

In May, gunmen killed eight people at a bar in the city, while later that month a television station and the offices of a local newspaper came under fire. A pregnant woman was wounded in the attack on the offices of Noticias de El Sol de la Laguna.

Across northern Mexico, there have been increasing reports of mass shootings at parties, bars and rehab clinics.

In January, gunmen barged into a private party in the border city of Ciudad Juarez and killed 15, many of them high school or university students. Relatives say that attack was a case of mistaken identity, while state officials claim someone at the party was targeted, although they have not said who it was.

On Thursday, drug-gang members set off their first successful car bomb. They lured federal police and paramedics to an intersection in Ciudad Juarez by calling in a false report of a wounded police officer, and when the authorities were in place at the scene, they detonated the explosive. Three people were killed, including a federal officer and a private doctor who had rushed to help.

continues:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100719/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_drug_war_mexico
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 19, 2010, 04:08:32 AM
Geeez....how awful.  I can't imagine living like that.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 19, 2010, 04:09:36 PM
Geeez....how awful.  I can't imagine living like that.

Not to get TOO far off topic (it is about violence, after all) but it is TERRIBLE there Chuck.  I should probably do a post over in the Cullen Cafe about it.  There have been so many slaying of women there that there is an entry about it in wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_homicides_in_Ciudad_Ju%C3%A1rez

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 19, 2010, 04:13:18 PM
Not to get TOO far off topic (it is about violence, after all) but it is TERRIBLE there Chuck.  I should probably do a post over in the Cullen Cafe about it.  There have been so many slaying of women there that there is an entry about it in wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_homicides_in_Ciudad_Ju%C3%A1rez


Please do, because I'd like to disucss this.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 19, 2010, 04:14:30 PM

Please do, because I'd like to disucss this.

Done.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 19, 2010, 04:38:50 PM
Thanks Michael!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on July 21, 2010, 09:32:15 AM
CEO Killed at Gay Cruising Spot


Credit Union of Atlanta CEO DeFarra Gaymon was shot and killed by a police officer in Newark, New Jersey last week after allegedly propositioning the officer at a gay cruising area.

http://advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/07/20/CEO_Killed_at_Gay_Cruising_Spot/ (http://advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/07/20/CEO_Killed_at_Gay_Cruising_Spot/)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/21/nyregion/21newark.html?_r=3&src=me&ref=nyregion (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/21/nyregion/21newark.html?_r=3&src=me&ref=nyregion)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on July 29, 2010, 11:30:48 AM
Deadly attack on gay man 'like Clockwork Orange scene'

A gay man was subjected to homophobic taunts before being punched and stamped to death in London's Trafalgar Square.

Ian Baynham, 62, of Beckenham, Kent, was with a friend when three teenagers attacked him outside South Africa House in September, the Old Bailey heard.

One witness said the attack, in which he was punched and stamped, was like a "scene from the film Clockwork Orange".

Joel Alexander, 19, Rachel Burke and Ruby Thomas, both 18, have all pleaded not guilty to manslaughter.

Mr Alexander, of Thornton Heath, south London, Miss Burke, of Three Oaks, East Sussex, and Miss Thomas, of Lichfield, Staffordshire, also deny violent disorder.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8630290.stm
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on August 17, 2010, 12:55:53 AM
Sydney police seem blind to homophobic hate crime

b]Police investigate Sydney gay bashing [/b]
Paul Bibby
August 14, 2010

A prominent gay rights activist was among four men allegedly assaulted by a lone attacker on Oxford Street in central Sydney on Monday night, in what the activist believes was a homophobic hate crime.

Police have charged a 34-year-old male with assault occasioning actual bodily harm in relation the attack on activist Simon Margan - the co-convenor of Community Action on Homophobia - and three other men.

The attack left Mr Margan bleeding on the ground with a severely fractured left eye-socket. Police will allege it was one of four separate assaults by the same man at different locations along the famous party strip.

(snip)

Mr Margan said the same man had made violent homophobic comments toward him a few days earlier as he put up posters promoting a gay rights rally taking place a Sydney Town Hall today.

"Every time I turned around he was there ranting about eradicating gays on Oxford St. It was more full-on than you usually get, so when I saw him on Monday night I was really scared he was going to do something extreme."

The 34-year-old male was denied bail to appear in Central local court on Monday, where police will allege that he was affected by alcohol. They also will present video footage from CCTV cameras on Oxford Street as evidence.

A police media spokesman said that there was "no indication that the men's sexuality was involved [as a motive] in the attack", but Mr Margan said he was in no doubt about his attacker's motive.

He said gay hate crimes were not uncommon on Oxford Street, but were only occasionally reported.

(snip)

The Town Hall rally is part of a nation-wide action calling for marriage equality.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-investigate-sydney-gay-bashing-20100813-123fa.html (http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-investigate-sydney-gay-bashing-20100813-123fa.html)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on August 17, 2010, 01:15:36 AM
^^^  What are the laws like in Australia, Tony, regarding civil actions?  Can they sue this creep for damages?

This stuff really does wear on you over time, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on August 17, 2010, 03:19:39 AM
^^^  What are the laws like in Australia, Tony, regarding civil actions?  Can they sue this creep for damages?

This stuff really does wear on you over time, doesn't it?

Don't know, Michael. I'm guessing it would come under NSW State laws.
It does wear on us.
I've only visited Oxford St briefly a few times - it has never struck me as particularly gay or friendly. I think it's certainly not safe.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Jer009 on August 20, 2010, 03:10:42 PM
Police investigate gay bashing on Muni

(snip)

He said he decided to get off the train. Davenport said there was little room to move, and as he walked by one of the men who was boarding, his bag apparently got caught on the man, who said, "Watch it, faggot."

http://www.ebar.com/news/article.php?sec=news&article=5000
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on August 22, 2010, 05:40:59 AM
^^^  UGH.

it really sucks when you *think* you live in the gayest city on earth and have to put up with that shit. :P  i've been mugged and attacked on the AC transit in the bay area. it's no fun dealing with those punks... i hope they catch the guys that did the attack.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on August 25, 2010, 10:07:37 AM
Teen Arrested in S.F. Antigay Attack

http://advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/08/25/Teen_Arrested_in_SF_Antigay_Attack/ (http://advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/08/25/Teen_Arrested_in_SF_Antigay_Attack/)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on August 25, 2010, 09:26:07 PM
I'm sure no one here will be surprised that it happens in gay resort cities too....

Key West teenager charged in alleged anti-gay attack
by Michael K. Lavers
National News Editor - Miami Edge
Wednesday Aug 25, 2010

A Key West teenager faces charges for allegedly attacking an Orlando man outside a local pizzeria earlier this month.

The Key West Police Department arrested Alberto Lopez, 17, on Tuesday, Aug. 23. He allegedly punched Eric Ullrich several times in the face while he and his boyfriend walked outside Mr. Z’s Pizza on Southard Street on Wednesday, Aug. 18. Lopez reportedly made derogatory comments about Ullrich’s sexual orientation before he allegedly attacked him.

Ullrich received several stitches. He also fractured his wrist during the altercation.

A nearby hotel’s surveillance video captured the attack. And a witness was able to identify Lopez out of a photo lineup.

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http://www.edgemiami.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=news&sc3=&id=109541
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on August 26, 2010, 10:29:15 AM
they will try him as an adult, right? i tend to count the 9 months spend in the womb with bastards like that.  >:(
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on August 26, 2010, 01:51:19 PM
I'm guessing yes Jimmy - that they mentioned his name in the press points to that conclusion.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 26, 2010, 02:06:09 PM
I'm sure no one here will be surprised that it happens in gay resort cities too....


Not at all.  Even in gay friendly areas like the village are not immune.  I remember when performer Kevin Aviance was attacked in the Village in NYC.


On June 10, 2006 while exiting the Phoenix, a popular gay bar located in the East Village section of Manhattan, Aviance was robbed and beaten by a group of men who yelled anti-gay slurs at him. Four suspects were arrested under New York's hate-crime law, but reports say up to seven men were involved in the attack.  Despite suffering a broken jaw, he insisted on appearing in the city's gay pride parade later that month.

On March 21, 2007 all four assailants pled guilty, receiving prison sentences ranging from 6 to 15 years in plea agreements that included hate crimes embellishments. The four young men, who range in age from 17 to 21 years old, [would have] faced up to 25 years each for the attack, had they been found guilty in a trial. All had been charged with gang assault as a hate crime.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Aviance
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 26, 2010, 04:27:48 PM

Not at all.  Even in gay friendly areas like the village are not immune.  I remember when performer Kevin Aviance was attacked in the Village in NYC.

And there was the actor Trev Broudy (actor/waiter?) who was gay bashed in West Hollywood and took months
to recover from it.  The casting people on Will & Grace gave him a job (as a waiter!) on the show when he recovered
to help with medical expenses.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 26, 2010, 04:31:38 PM
One night in West Hollywood a few years ago, there were some idiots of
the kind that gay bash, etc. who were driving through the city yelling
anti-gay slurs and epithets, when they happened to get caught by a
red light at Robertson Blvd.  The patrons of the restaurants and bars
around there one by one came out and blocked the intersection and
called the police, stranding those guys in their car until the police came
and charges were made against them.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on August 26, 2010, 05:46:41 PM
like i said, the more gay people there are, the more gay bashings will occur.

i suspect bashers actually make pilgrimages into gay meccas to seek out people to hurt.

man, those people were lucky!!! what was to stop those morons from pressing on the gas and just running over all those guys? i hope somebody reached in and took the keys, or otherwise blocked the tires somehow.   

lol, new flash: "cocktail tables from mickey's, placed under the tires, disabled the perpetrator's vehicle until police could arrive."

you really do have to be careful to avoid being a target. i've crossed the street before to avoid walking into a trio or group of dangerous or "out of place" looking guys near weho. you can't just bumble along with your iPod on. it pays to be alert, esp. at night in that town. so many of the side streets are dark and poorly lit, as well, like the one where trev broudy was ambushed. so freaking sad.

that's great what they did for him on will & grace, wow!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 26, 2010, 05:51:26 PM
you really do have to be careful to avoid being a target. i've crossed the street before to avoid walking into a trio or group of dangerous or "out of place" looking guys near weho. you can't just bumble along with your iPod on. it pays to be alert, esp. at night in that town. so many of the side streets are dark and poorly lit, as well, like the one where trev broudy was ambushed.

You're correct on that Jimmy.  You can't be too careful.  When I'm walkin' anywhere, I always make sure that I'm on a populated street, well lit, and making sure that I'm aware of my surroundings.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on August 29, 2010, 11:55:21 PM
No Hate Crime Charges for Marines Accused of Brutal Gay Bashing
29 August 2010

An update to the two Marines charged with battery  after beating a gay man so viciously that he was left unconscious on the street in Savannah, Georgia. Cpl. Keil Joseph Cronauer, 22, and Lance Cpl. Christopher Charles Stanzel, 23, claim the 26-year-old gay man  "winked at them" and they felt "threatened." The two Iraq War vets will not face federal hate crime charges, the GA Voice reports.

continues:

http://rodonline.typepad.com/rodonline/2010/08/no-hate-crime-charges-for-marines-accused-of-brutal-gay-bashing-1.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 30, 2010, 04:18:53 AM
No Hate Crime Charges for Marines Accused of Brutal Gay Bashing
29 August 2010

::)

From the article:

"I can’t speak on the specifics because this is pending litigation, but for a crime to be considered a felony [which a hate crime is considered to be] there has to be proof of a sustained injury," Johnson said. "It’s my understanding Daly suffered only a punch. Based on his medical records we could not upgrade the charge from a misdemeanor to a felony."

The vicious assault of two combat-trained Marines against one civilian—described as "only a punch" by prosecutors—lead to Kieran Daly suffering bruising to the brain and two seizures. Daly remained hospitalized for a week...


Must've been one hell of a punch.   Assholes.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 30, 2010, 01:26:17 PM
Cpl. Keil Joseph Cronauer, 22, and Lance Cpl. Christopher Charles Stanzel, 23, claim the 26-year-old gay man
"winked at them" and they felt "threatened."

Now our enemies know all they have to do is wink at our soldiers and they'll go into a panic.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on September 04, 2010, 12:37:52 PM
A word to gay bashers...it makes you look really silly when we find out you were in our bars and THEN bash us (especially if you're upset because I girl turns you down, loser):

Man arrested, suspected of hate crime outside Lincoln gay bar
By the Lincoln Journal Star | Posted: Friday, September 3, 2010 12:30 pm

Lincoln police believe a man who punched another man in the face outside Club Q early Friday morning committed a hate crime.

Luke Stevens, 22, was arrested after an officer saw him punch a 32-year-old man outside the bar at 226 S. Ninth St. about 1:40 a.m, Lincoln Police Officer Katie Flood said.

Witnesses and the victim told police Stevens yelled derogatory terms about his sexual orientation before he hitting him, Flood said.

The man who was hit complained of pain to his face, but he did not need treatment, Flood said.

Stevens had been in the gay bar with a friend Thursday night, Flood said. Police believe he got upset after a woman turned him down.

continues:

http://journalstar.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_c70c6ea4-b77b-11df-a893-001cc4c002e0.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Nikki on September 04, 2010, 01:43:53 PM
Stevens had been in the gay bar with a friend Thursday night, Flood said. Police believe he got upset after a woman turned him down.

Does this mean Stevens was too much of a gentlemen to hit the woman, so he went looking for a gay punching bag ?   Hell!

modified to fix quote
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on September 04, 2010, 01:51:26 PM
Does this mean Stevens was too much of a gentlemen to hit the woman, so he went looking for a gay punching bag ?   Hell!

It probably means he was angry because he got turned down but didn't act on it till he stepped outside the bar.  I doubt being a gentleman came into play...but I'm guessing at least a few beers did...so that the little brain took a while to hear from the big brain (assuming in this case that the bigger brain was in his pants).
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Nikki on September 04, 2010, 01:59:00 PM
It probably means he was angry because he got turned down but didn't act on it till he stepped outside the bar.  I doubt being a gentleman came into play...but I'm guessing at least a few beers did...so that the little brain took a while to hear from the big brain (assuming in this case that the bigger brain was in his pants).

LOL, Michael. ;D
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on September 04, 2010, 02:03:52 PM
^^^  There are moments where I pause at things like this and think 'is he gay bashing...or is he just a dunce?' - and it's often a toss-up, Nikki.  ;) :D
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: fritzkep on September 04, 2010, 05:15:13 PM
But be careful when they confederate.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on September 04, 2010, 06:19:32 PM
But be careful when they confederate.

They almost always do, Fritz.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on September 14, 2010, 01:32:15 AM
Another possible anti-LGBT murder in Puerto Rico
by Michael K. Lavers
National News Editor
Monday Sep 13, 2010

Puerto Rican authorities continue to investigate the death of two transgender women found dead on a local highway.

El Nuevo Día reported local police discovered the bodies of "two men who were dressed in women’s clothes" along Highway 512 in Juana Díaz around 2:30 a.m. on Monday, Sept. 13. The newspaper said both victims, who were between 20- and 25-years-old, were shot in the head.

El Nuevo Día further reported authorities arrested a 28-year-old man in connection with the murders after they found blood and human tissue inside his car. Pedro Julio Serrano of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force urged Puerto Rican authorities to investigate the deaths as hate crimes.

"At the very least it is probable that these crimes could have been motivated by prejudice based on the victims’ sexual orientation or gender identity," he said in a statement. "The authorities have an obligation under the law to investigate this hate angle."

continues:

http://www.edgechicago.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=news&sc3=&id=110248
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: michaelflanagansf on September 14, 2010, 01:33:24 AM
Tenn. Lesbian Couple Burned Out of Home
by Kilian Melloy
Monday Sep 13, 2010

A lesbian couple in a tiny town in eastern Tennessee say that the fire that burned their house to the ground was an act of anti-gay hatred. They also say that they received numerouis threats from a neighbor--including a threat to "kill them and burn down their house"--over the span of the five years they lived in the town, reported Knoxville, Tenn. news station WATE on Sept. 10.

Carol and Laura Stutte, long-time life partners who have been together for a decade and a half, were away when the house burned. They regard the fire as suspicious both because of the threats they received and because a spray-painted message was left on their garage, consisting of one word in large letters: "Queers."

The couple moved to Tennessee from Oklahoma five years ago. But the state they left is not friendlier toward gay and lesbian families than the one they moved to, at least not by law; two years ago, a male couple in Tulsa suffered similar property destruction when their home was damaged and a friend’s pickup was torched in their driveway, reported northeastern Oklahoma newspaper Tulsa World on July 18, 2008.

Vandals spray-painted "Gays Must Go" on the garage door of Robert Stotler, a Marine Corps veteran, and his male life partner. The torched truck was also spray painted with the warning, "I’ll Be Back."

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http://www.edgesanfrancisco.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=news&sc3=&id=110261
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 14, 2010, 03:21:49 AM
Disgusting.  Assholes like that deserve a special place in Hell.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 14, 2010, 01:17:36 PM

I don't get what motivates people to commit acts like this against others.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on September 18, 2010, 11:11:11 PM

i was googling the new jewish prayer (for deceased gay partners) and came across this site:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?p=602131

Quote
I'm not sure what to make of this. I stand with you that homosexuality is a carcinogen on society, but Jews don't hate gays to the extent that you do at LBC. I don't really see the harm in including gays in prayer.

isn't it special how we're seen as carcinogens...?  thanks a lot, david rothstein... :P

anyway. posted here because there's mention there somewhere about how gay are supposed to be pelted with "moderate sized" stones.

yes. let's consult the holy texts for instructions on how to properly punish the gays. ::)

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on September 18, 2010, 11:24:46 PM
Jimmy, Landover Baptist is MY church  ;D

Betty Bowers turned me on to it years ago.

It's a satire site.

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/ (http://www.landoverbaptist.org/)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: gnash on September 20, 2010, 02:39:35 AM
i was gonna say!!  i was just interested in the jewish prayer article (which is real) and came across the link through google.

it should be popover baptist. :D
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 20, 2010, 10:17:15 AM
anyway. posted here because there's mention there somewhere about how gay are supposed to be pelted with "moderate sized" stones.

That's like saying it's OK to beat your wife, as long as the club is no thicker than your thumb. ...  ::)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: chapeaugris on September 22, 2010, 07:46:12 AM
Dan Savage has started a YouTube channel for his "It Gets Better Project". Here it is : http://www.youtube.com/itgetsbetterproject and here's what it's about:

Quote
Another gay teenager in another small town has killed himself—hope you're pleased with yourselves, Tony Perkins and all the other "Christians" out there who oppose anti-bullying programs (and give actual Christians a bad name).

Billy Lucas was just 15 when he hanged himself in a barn on his grandmother's property. He reportedly endured intense bullying at the hands of his classmates—classmates who called him a fag and told him to kill himself. His mother found his body.

Nine out of 10 gay teenagers experience bullying and harassment at school, and gay teens are four times likelier to attempt suicide. Many LGBT kids who do kill themselves live in rural areas, exurbs, and suburban areas, places with no gay organizations or services for queer kids.

"My heart breaks for the pain and torment you went through, Billy Lucas," a reader wrote after I posted about Billy Lucas to my blog. "I wish I could have told you that things get better."

I had the same reaction: I wish I could have talked to this kid for five minutes. I wish I could have told Billy that it gets better. I wish I could have told him that, however bad things were, however isolated and alone he was, it gets better.

But gay adults aren't allowed to talk to these kids. Schools and churches don't bring us in to talk to teenagers who are being bullied. Many of these kids have homophobic parents who believe that they can prevent their gay children from growing up to be gay—or from ever coming out—by depriving them of information, resources, and positive role models.

Why are we waiting for permission to talk to these kids? We have the ability to talk directly to them right now. We don't have to wait for permission to let them know that it gets better. We can reach these kids.

So here's what you can do: Make a video. Tell them it gets better.

I've launched a channel on YouTube—www ­.youtube.com/itgetsbetterproject—to host these videos. My normally camera-shy husband and I already posted one. We both went to Christian schools and we were both bullied—he had it a lot worse than I did—and we are living proof that it gets better. We don't dwell too much on the past. Instead, we talk mostly about all the meaningful things in our lives now—our families, our friends (gay and straight), the places we've gone and things we've experienced—that we would've missed out on if we'd killed ourselves then.

"You gotta give 'em hope," Harvey Milk said.

Today we have the power to give these kids hope. We have the tools to reach out to them and tell our stories and let them know that it does get better. Online support groups are great, GLSEN does amazing work, the Trevor Project is invaluable. But many LGBT youth can't picture what their lives might be like as openly gay adults. They can't imagine a future for themselves. So let's show them what our lives are like, let's show them what the future may hold in store for them.

The video my husband and I made is up now—all by itself. I'd like to add submissions from other gay and lesbian adults—singles and couples, with kids or without, established in careers or just starting out, urban and rural, of all races and religious backgrounds. (Go to www.youtube.com/itgetsbetterproject (http://www.youtube.com/itgetsbetterproject) to find instructions for submitting your video.) If you're gay or lesbian or bi or trans and you've ever read about a kid like Billy Lucas and thought, "Fuck, I wish I could've told him that it gets better," this is your chance. We can't help Billy, but there are lots of other Billys out there—other despairing LGBT kids who are being bullied and harassed, kids who don't think they have a future—and we can help them.

They need to know that it gets better. Submit a video. Give them hope.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 22, 2010, 09:48:56 AM
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Hope you're pleased with yourselves, Tony Perkins and all the other "Christians" out there who oppose anti-bullying programs (and give actual Christians a bad name).

I am seriously glad that Dan Savage recognizes that there is a difference. I have run into an awful lot of people (especially on the Internet) who do not, cannot, or will not.

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But gay adults aren't allowed to talk to these kids. Schools and churches don't bring us in to talk to teenagers who are being bullied. Many of these kids have homophobic parents who believe that they can prevent their gay children from growing up to be gay—or from ever coming out—by depriving them of information, resources, and positive role models.

Sure. And in addition to the reasons Savage lists, how many of these same homophobic parents remain convinced that "we" are all predators and pedophiles, so that they don't want us anywhere near their kids?  :(
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Nikki on October 02, 2010, 09:18:53 AM
Not sure where to post this, but it seems to fit the theme.  

By now, everyone in the USA must have read or become aware of the tragic suicide of the Clementi boy who jumped off the GW bridge.  He found out his college roomate was taping his (Clementi's) encounter with a male, and streamed the resulting video encounter on Facebook.  I was furious when I read the story in my paper.  Thursday night Anderson Cooper discussed the story on CNN. Cooper's remark  loosely paraphrased: "What must the 24 hours before he died have been for him" brought me almost to tears. Cooper also reviewed the recent suicide of an 11 year old boy who shot himself because he had been bullied for being gay by saying, "[the boy's father] found his little body..."

Whether it's cyber bullying because a person is gay or straight, or bullying in school, something has to be done before more  young people take their lives.  What must it be like to be driven to such desperation that a person chooses death rather than life under circumstances that they perceive leaves them no choice?  It's too easy to say that victims can seek help from receptive organizations like GLBT or school counselors.  In some cases,  the person being bullied is too ashamed to seek help, especially if their parents are unaware of their sexuality in such situations, or because they haven't come to terms with it themselves.

Perhaps it's time to strengthen laws against bullying rather than just a slap on the wrist for so called 'pranks' which may be part of the Clementi roomates' defense.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on October 02, 2010, 07:32:53 PM
It's long past time the issue was taken seriously.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Jer009 on October 02, 2010, 08:49:19 PM
Focus On The Family: Homosexuals Are The Real Bullies In The Schools

The spiteful, morally bankrupt monsters at Focus On The Family have turned reality upside down...FOUR incidents of anti-gay bullying THIS WEEK ALONE, and they come up with this!

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/10/focus-on-family-homosexuals-are-real.html

ETA: Was it all in one week or one month? In any case, it's too many!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Nikki on October 04, 2010, 11:17:32 AM
Focus On The Family: Homosexuals Are The Real Bullies In The Schools

The spiteful, morally bankrupt monsters at Focus On The Family have turned reality upside down...FOUR incidents of anti-gay bullying THIS WEEK ALONE, and they come up with this!

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/10/focus-on-family-homosexuals-are-real.html

ETA: Was it all in one week or one month? In any case, it's too many!

Who is Focus on the Family, who created it, when, why?  Are they really taken seriously?  By whom?
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tonydude on October 04, 2010, 08:20:26 PM
 The "It gets better" YouTube campaign seems to be picking up steam.  Chuck, of course, did a very brave, and also, reassuring, video.  Tonight, On Dancing with the Stars, the issue of the bullying came up, again, when Margaret Cho dedicated her splashy dance to the gay community and said it was also her way to show support against bullying.  The audience probably numbered about 25 million people, so, there's some increased traction there.  NBC news also did a story, a few days ago.  
  This may be a good chance for some progress.

 Oh, yeah.....what goes around comes around.  You can vote for Margaret on ABC.com, and she needs those votes as she is at the bottom of the rankings.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on October 04, 2010, 08:38:30 PM
Who is Focus on the Family, who created it, when, why?  Are they really taken seriously?  By whom?

Founder: Dr. James C. Dobson
President/Chief Executive Officer: James D. Daly
Established: 1977

Finances: $137,848,520 (2004 Focus on the Family revenue); $24,988,036 (2004 Focus on the Family Action revenue)
Board of Directors: Ted Engstrom, Bobb Beihl, Lee Eaton, Shirley Dobson, Don Hodel, Stephen W. Reed, Robert Hamby, Anthony Wauterlek, Daniel Villanueva; Lt. Gen. Patrick P Caruana, Elsa Prince Broekhuizen, Steve Largent, Dr. Albert Mohler, Jr., Dr. Kathleen Nielson (2004)

Staff: approximately 1,300 employees

Publications: 2.3 million subscribers to ten monthly magazines. Magazine titles include: Focus on the Family, Citizen Magazine, Parental Guidance, Clubhouse and Clubhouse Jr. Focus on the Family also publishes a wide variety of books, tapes, films and videos.

Media: Dr. Dobson is heard daily on more than 3,400 radio facilities in North America, in 15 languages, on approximately 6,300 facilities in 164 countries. Dobson's estimated listening audience is over 220 million people every day, including a program translation carried on all state-owned radio stations in the Republic of China. In the United States, Dobson appears on 80 television stations daily.



more...

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/focus-family (http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/focus-family)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: chapeaugris on October 05, 2010, 01:25:09 AM
The "It gets better" YouTube campaign seems to be picking up steam.  Chuck, of course, did a very brave, and also, reassuring, video.

I know most of Chuck's story, but it was very moving to see and hear him speaking publicly. I've watched a few of those videos almost every day since the project was started.

The Tyler Clementi suicide affected me most of all because my daughter has just started college. What if she was publicly humiliated in the very first month there after working so hard, for so long, to get to college and thought life was no longer worth living? What if she thoughtlessly humiliated another student to the point of driving him to suicide? I assume I've raised her not to behave that way, but I bet the parents of those two guilty students thought they'd done the same.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Dave Cullen on October 05, 2010, 01:23:38 PM
Focus On The Family: Homosexuals Are The Real Bullies In The Schools

They are maddening. I have to keep a separate compartment in my brain for them. All outrageous things they say go into the FOTF Whacko Compartment, where I have to shrug them off. Otherwise, I'd eat a hole in my esophagus.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Nikki on October 05, 2010, 04:21:15 PM


I had no idea they were so influential.  It's still hard for me to believe anyone would talke them seriously.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on October 05, 2010, 09:55:12 PM
Anne Hathaway, Ian Somerhalder And More Film 'It Gets Better' PSA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InhSGQPuP4o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InhSGQPuP4o)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Jer009 on October 05, 2010, 10:52:29 PM

Publications: 2.3 million subscribers to ten monthly magazines. Magazine titles include: Focus on the Family, Citizen Magazine, Parental Guidance, Clubhouse and Clubhouse Jr. Focus on the Family also publishes a wide variety of books, tapes, films and videos.

Parental Guidance? Who would take parental guidance from a frothing at the mouth lunatic like Dobson? Only Bible-thumping religious extremists and slack-jawed knuckle draggers.

And not one or two magazines, but ten? Methinks the lady doth protest too much. 
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: chuckyv on October 06, 2010, 03:11:10 AM
Awful to admit, but FOTF also have established themselves in Europe, & in Africa. The bigotry has a worldwide audience.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on October 12, 2010, 06:44:46 AM


Somber reminder of the day.............




(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/5075188814_1c59792d59.jpg)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: graylockV on October 14, 2010, 11:27:43 PM
This is mandatory viewing, IMO:

Joel Burns tells gay teens "it gets better"

Joel Burns is an openly gay city councilman in Fort Worth, Texas.  Here is the video of his statement to the council on October 12, 2010.  If this doesn't touch your heart - you don't have one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax96cghOnY4&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Sara B on October 15, 2010, 06:47:26 AM
This is mandatory viewing, IMO:

Joel Burns tells gay teens "it gets better"

Joel Burns is an openly gay city councilman in Fort Worth, Texas.  Here is the video of his statement to the council on October 12, 2010.  If this doesn't touch your heart - you don't have one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax96cghOnY4&feature=player_embedded

It very much did.  But some of the comments make me despair of humanity.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on October 15, 2010, 08:31:03 AM

Has the Tyler Clementi suicide already been discussed here, or in one of the other threads?

Just read about it, and see that the news is already several weeks old.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Sason on October 16, 2010, 09:00:51 AM
This is mandatory viewing, IMO:

Joel Burns tells gay teens "it gets better"

Joel Burns is an openly gay city councilman in Fort Worth, Texas.  Here is the video of his statement to the council on October 12, 2010.  If this doesn't touch your heart - you don't have one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax96cghOnY4&feature=player_embedded

This is powerful stuff indeed.

Speaks directly to your heart.

What courage it must have taken to hold such a speech in public!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: canmark on October 16, 2010, 01:51:26 PM
I watched the Joel Burns video today. Excellent. It restores your faith that there are good and kind people in this world... and some of them can even get elected to political office (in Texas, even!). Here he's interviewed on CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/10/15/councilman.burns.gay.bullying/?hpt=C1

There are many more videos of that nature on the The Trevor Project and It Gets Better websites, videos from real people, gay and straight, celebrities, politicians and religious leaders. Well worth watching.

http://www.thetrevorproject.org/
http://www.itgetsbetterproject.com/

The Broadway community is, naturally, stepping up. There's a website of It Gets Better videos by Broadway performers. Here's one from the cast of Chicago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0D5nNIM5H4

http://www.itgetsbetterbroadway.com/
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on October 16, 2010, 03:09:32 PM
BetterMost member KirkMusic has made a video on YouTube as well.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SOw_RjFp0I
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Sason on October 16, 2010, 03:58:44 PM
That letter from Dan Savage he's reading is so well worded!!

And I like Kirk's own part too.

Well done, Kirk!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Jer009 on October 17, 2010, 12:37:28 AM
Good job, Kirk!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: canmark on October 17, 2010, 07:29:39 AM
Members of the Broadway community have recorded a We Are The World-type song for the Trevor Project, It Get's Better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeKI8biAglU
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Jer009 on October 19, 2010, 05:04:56 PM
Ugandan Tabloid Outs 100 'Top Homos', Calls for Their Hanging

(snip)

"In the days since it was published, at least four gay Ugandans on the list have been attacked and many others are in hiding, according to rights activist Julian Onziema. One person named in the story had stones thrown at his house by neighbors.

http://www.towleroad.com/2010/10/ugandan-tabloid-outs-100-top-homos-calls-for-their-hanging.html
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tfferg on October 20, 2010, 10:17:27 PM
In Victoria, Australia

gay friendly schools form rainbow alliance
Farrah Tomazin
October 21, 2010
 
AS AN openly gay teenager, Samuel Rodda has endured his share of bullying over the years. Sometimes it's been verbal abuse, other times social exclusion - like the school camp where his classmates refused to share a room with him at night, simply because of his sexuality.

The 16-year-old nonetheless considers himself one of the lucky ones. He has never been bashed for being gay but knows of several teenagers who have or, worse still, attempted suicide when the homophobic attacks became too much.

But, having been to four different schools in four years, he knows that ''coming out'' can be brutally tough for young people without a supportive environment. ''There's definitely a lot of ignorance in schools when it comes to gay students. Some of the schools I've been to haven't even recognised that there are gay students there,'' he says.

Samuel is now in year 10 at Princes Hill Secondary College, which he says is open and accepting of its students, regardless of sexual orientation.

Today, in a pre-election bid to tackle homophobia in Victoria's education system, Princes Hill will be one of 11 schools to form a ''Safe Schools Coalition''.

Under the program, schools will be encouraged to set up ''gay/straight student alliances'', share resources and provide teacher training that identifies - and stamps out - homophobia in the classroom. Students and teachers will get access to support networks and be encouraged to create posters, newsletters or forums that promote sexual diversity in schools.

Education Minister Bronwyn Pike said she hoped other gay-friendly schools would ''come out'' as well in a bid to raise the public's consciousness about homosexuality.

''If kids don't feel included and welcome on the basis of their sexuality, that's going to be a barrier to their education, intellectual and emotional development,'' Ms Pike said.

The initiative comes amid figures showing that about 60 per cent of same-sex attracted young people experience verbal or physical abuse, and that most of it takes place in schools.

The scheme has won the support of psychologists and gay support groups, but the Australian Christian Lobby raised concerns the government was ''normalising homosexuality as a lifestyle'' in schools. Victorian director Rob Ward said: ''Are they going to suggest that children who might be homosexual attend these schools?

''Are we creating a homosexual ghetto? You're talking about some young people who are struggling with their sexuality, and perhaps discovering themselves, and our concern is that some of these programs promote homosexual or lesbian behaviour, rather than allowing children the time to work these things out for themselves.''

Associate Professor Anne Mitchell, the director of Gay and Lesbian Health Victoria, said homosexuality in schools was an issue that many people found morally challenging and did not know how to deal with. But while Australian schools did not contain some of the ''red-neck violence'' seen in the US, there had nonetheless been ''extreme horror stories - verbal abuse, graffiti on lockers, bones broken, hair set on fire, and properties destroyed''.

The Safe Schools Coalition will be unveiled by Ms Pike today, less than six weeks before a state election in which the Education Minister, who has an openly gay son and is publicly supportive of gay marriage, is facing a threat by the Greens in her inner city seat of Melbourne.

The government has provided $80,000 to the coalition, and a further $20,000 for a training seminar, to be held next week, to help teachers confront homophobia. The coalition is overseen by the Rainbow Network and the Foundation for Young Australians.

(snip)

http://www.theage.com.au/national/education/coming-out-gay-friendly-schools-form-rainbow-alliance-20101020-16u7r.html (http://www.theage.com.au/national/education/coming-out-gay-friendly-schools-form-rainbow-alliance-20101020-16u7r.html)
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 21, 2010, 04:30:25 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  That info was interesting.

***

I think how the President and Pentagon and Congress are currently
handling DADT and the judicial pronouncements is tantamount to gay bashing.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Melisande on October 25, 2010, 09:10:48 AM
I moved the posts discussing DADT to the DADT thread, here:

http://www.davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=4767.345

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: fritzkep on October 29, 2010, 05:44:12 PM
Looks like Clint McCance, the Arkansas school board member who posted homophobic comments, resigned.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/29/clint-mccance-resigns-anderson-cooper_n_775828.html?ref=fb&src=sp#sb=266727,b=facebook

Couldn't have happened to a more deserving individual.

Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: canmark on October 30, 2010, 09:10:45 AM
It Gets Better video by the cast of the North American production of the musical Priscilla Queen of the Desert, now playing in Toronto and moving to Broadway in 2011. Certainly the show is a celebration of being gay and being strong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAgufQSRVcI
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: chuckyv on January 07, 2011, 01:53:22 AM
A PFLAG group has opened up near me here, & to my knowledge it is the first one in South Africa. It is a great step forward. I am going to do what I can to spread the word, as it is vital to get people educated.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 07, 2011, 04:26:29 AM
Great work, Chuck.  Please keep us posted on the progress there!
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: tonydude on January 20, 2011, 03:14:18 PM
 Am not sure how expandable the term "gay bashing" can be.  Could it apply to those who may be straight but are perceived as gay? At any rate, two very bad incidents here in Norfolk:

*a Norfolk police officer, Vincent Decker, attending a breast cancer fund-raising event at a strip club in Virginia Beach, murdered late at night.....ho-hum, no frenzy to find the killer. This officer apparently was gay-friendly, patrolling the downtown bars at night.  Although young and married, he did fit the gaydar visual scan of either gays or straights. Plenty of video cameras outside the bar and at military property across the street.  Nothing there?

*a Norfolk police recruit died from brain injuries after a training session.  First story: he collided with someone. Videos have now emerged of his head being pounded, after he was limp or unconscious, by the "trainer".  The recruit, engaged to be married, still, had the mannerisms of that openly gay young student on "Glee".  He certainly resembled him, somewhat.

  There did occur the largest mass-murder of gays in this country, at a downtown tavern, back in the 1970's and am going to try to research it.  The killer was said to be a police pet, hanging around the headquarters.  The victims were transvestites (about 9-10 shot dead) and so the elite Norfolk gay community, oh-so-middle-class, didn't want any connection with those kind of gays.  And the local rag, The Virginian-Pilot ,as always, the most spineless in the country, did not follow up on the police climate influencing the killer.
 Meanwhile, back to these recent tragedies....Police Chief Bruce P. Marquis, has been less than enthusiastic about hot pursuit, and has shown little sympathy for the victims or their families. So, I have to wonder....are the police here so infested with homophobia that it even extends to those who might be gay?  No queers or sissies on their force?
  Somebody help me out.  Does a victim of homophobia, by definition, HAVE to be gay? Or is the hate itself the operative issue?
  And what in the hell is wrong with Chief Marquis?
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: Sandy on January 21, 2011, 01:16:33 PM
I think the attacker's perceiving the victim to be gay would be enough to trigger hate crime provisions, as long as the attackers admitted to that perception. That would figure in the attacker's intention.

Remember the Mark Wahlberg character in "Boogie Nights" was beaten up because his attackers thought he was gay.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: passthepickles on January 26, 2011, 05:41:59 PM
Gay bashing in high schools can be some of the worst sometimes. Especially my high school in Vegas. I was president of the 'GSA' at my school last year (Gay-Straight Alliance) and there wasn't a day that went by when someone in the club would be picked on, even just a little. Sure, the big brawny guys in the club were left alone but the 'less man-ish' girls and the more effeminate guys werent. High school is torture for kids discovering their sexualities and preferances; it's always been torture. Last year the 'FACT' (Fellowship Among Christian Teens) club used to come into our meetings and try to start crap. (I went to their club a few times and dealt some nasty words. It was glorious to see the shocked and out-raged looks. I'm not one to stand down to a bunch of panties-in-a-twist arses who think they're always right. Puh-lease, you just think you're high and mighty but I don't think you are. Sorry, I love ranting ;D)
A woman in the office would be rude everytime I had to ask her something about/for GSA. Some of my more religeous teachers would give me dirty looks sometimes.
High school and gay bashing sucks. Just wish I could change that for some of the younger members of GSA because I won't be here next year to yell at close-minded people or deal with the aftermath of what happens when my members are hurt physically or emotionally.
Title: Re: Gay bashing
Post by: BayCityJohn on January 26, 2011, 09:12:16 PM
Weeks after his face was outed on the cover of a Uganda newspaper, LGBT activist David Kato has been found beaten to death in his home.

Uganda's "kill gays" bill and the subsequent newspaper articles, where