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Any attempt to deconstuct Brokeback Mountain will be regarded as an act of war.
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Any attempt to deconstuct Brokeback Mountain will be regarded as an act of war.

It that a metanarrative big boy, or are you just happy to see me?
I do my thing, & you do your thing. I am not in this world to live up to your expectations, and you are not in this world to live up to mine. You are you and I am I, and if by chance we find each other - it is beautiful. If not it can't be helped.

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It that a metanarrative big boy, or are you just happy to see me?
Oooo Michael, I get all tingly when you talk dirty! 

I hope none of our more cerebral librettists or composers would be attracted to BbM, so our Boys are in no danger of being dissected with a blunt instrument. 

BTW I remember AP said (somewhere) that she conceived the story as a long sostenuto on.... something, it escapes me.  Can anyone remember what she said and what she meant, and why she put it that way?  The phrase seemed a little stiff to me at the time.  This might be almost on-topic, sort of.
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I hope none of our more cerebral librettists or composers would be attracted to BbM, so our Boys are in no danger of being dissected with a blunt instrument. 

Careful what you wish for, Dal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Springer_The_Opera
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My God, I'm caught between post-structuralism and the Three Stooges....
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The only problem with an aria for Ennis is he hardly talks.  Maybe he could just stand there and get older, and a Chorus of Sheep do the singing....

You know, the lack of dialogue in BBM has often been raised as a challenge to bringing it to the stage--operatically or otherwise. What I keep reminding people is that in opera, we are more often than not listening to arias/ensembles where the characters are not actually "talking," but rather expressing their inner thoughts. This way, the composer can write arias until the cows...er...um...sheep come home.

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Exactly, as I siad before - you can do anything you want in opera as long as you sing it!

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i wonder what un bel di would sound like sung by a baritone?

I can't believe this thread is here.  Just when I thought I'd be able to - you know - think about something else for a change.

I just have to say I've always thought the North American "un bel di" was "Some Day Soon"  by Judy Collins, and it's been recorded by Ian Tyson recently.

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I just have to say I've always thought the North American "un bel di" was "Some Day Soon"  by Judy Collins,
"One Fine Day" -- the Chiffons.
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Well, it translates better, but Some Day Soon is about the rodeo.
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Went to see Dido & Aeneas and Los Noches last night -mmmmm different, I think I'll stick to Verdi, Puccini and Mozart!

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Awww... pity you did not care for it.  Actually the music for "When I Am Laid in Earth" would do well for the vast sadness of the northern plains.  Or Ennis's drive back from Lighting Flat.  "...a tiny fenced square on the welling prairie, a few graves bright with plastic flowers, and didn't want to know Jack was going in there, to be buried on the grieving plain."
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I just watched 'Il Trittico' on PBS. First time I've seen it.

Puccini is the Master.

Tragedy and disappointment are caused by false ideals and expectation.

Anyone in the mood to jump off the Ponte Vecchio? I don't think I'll join in that party. :)

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Just home from 'Iphigenie en Tauride' and have to ask - did Pylades quit Orestes?

[Sorry...couldn't resist.... :D]

I'm off to the film festival now but wanted to pop in and say how much I enjoyed the performance.

BTW, here is our Orestes:

http://www.operajaponica.org/graphics/photos/vienna/viennastateopera/vsobillybudd/vsobillybudd1.JPG

And here is our Pylades:

http://www.operainfo.org/images/artistimages/grovespaul.jpg

It wasn't difficult watching them sing of their love for one another for over 2 hours  ;) :D
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Anyone in the mood to jump off the Ponte Vecchio? I don't think I'll join in that party. :)
You might as well live...
Mommy, can I be on the kill list when I gwow up?
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