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Re: How Brokeback Affected Me--continued
« Reply #3690 on: June 03, 2015, 04:22:12 AM »
"You are filled with grief and longing, which maddens you because you don't know where to put these feelings or what to do with them. It's like being in love - hopelessly in love - with someone or something out of reach."

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« Reply #3691 on: June 03, 2015, 04:22:58 AM »
For me, those extremely intense feelings have slowly subsided with time.

Thankfully, because they took over my life and made me quite dysfunctional to the point where I couldn't go to work.

OTOH, I also miss that time. The raw emotions and intensity of it all made me feel alive in a strange way.

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« Reply #3692 on: June 03, 2015, 04:29:32 AM »
^^^

All of that for me too.
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« Reply #3693 on: June 03, 2015, 04:35:21 AM »
^^^^^
Ditto
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« Reply #3694 on: June 03, 2015, 06:41:25 AM »
I know of many who were untouched by it and one or two who didn't like it, but none who regretted seeing it.

[...] it was more like being in love, though touched by a deep sadness [...] I didn't have any physical aches, but it certainly affected my sleep. And desperate to talk about it - and I was amazed to find that others felt the same way.

All of this for me. I was amazed when I first came across this forum in 2012, and couldn't stop reading. Amazed that so many people from all over the world felt exactly like the way I did at the time - only several years earlier. That was surreal. And magical. And a feeling of 'finding my place', so to speak. 'Coming home' - as I couldn't talk to anyone else about it. Not in real life. I mean, how weird is it to be so overwhelmed by a movie? That only happens to kids and teens, doesn't it?!  Not when you're in your 40s... and certainly not to me - someone who's very down to earth and practical, usually  ;D

I've tried to fight it, the Brokeback feeling. I couldn't, though.

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« Reply #3695 on: June 03, 2015, 07:09:07 AM »
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those extremely intense feelings have slowly subsided with time.


Yes those feelings have subsided - you couldn't function otherwise. But something significant happened - an experience beyond the every day. IMO the urgent drive to understand   led to all that minute analysis scene by scene and all those Brokie trips to visit the key sites of the film as if somewhere in all this activity one might discover the key.

This film set people off on a search which hopefully they will continue - the song may have ended but the melody lingers on.
The power of Love came into me
and I became fierce like a lion
then tender like the evening star - Rumi

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Re: How Brokeback Affected Me--continued
« Reply #3696 on: June 03, 2015, 07:22:07 AM »

...the song may have ended but the melody lingers on.

Oh,yes. :)
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« Reply #3697 on: June 03, 2015, 07:46:25 AM »

...the song may have ended but the melody lingers on.

How beautiful. I'll remember that.
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« Reply #3698 on: June 03, 2015, 08:01:12 AM »
PS When I first started posting on this forum (in the symbolism thread) I suggested that embodied in the story of Jack and Ennis are powerful archetypal images. Here is a summary of information I recently gleaned on the subject which may shed some light on why we all have been so powerfully affected in similar ways.

The philosopher Carl Jung believed that universal, mythic characters—archetypes—reside within the collective unconscious of people the world over. Archetypes represent fundamental human motifs of our experience as we evolved; consequentially, they evoke deep emotions.

Because an archetype speaks to the basic human experience, it communicates meaning and emotion in all forms of literature - from folklore to the classics. Since stories communicate truths about who we are (identity) and where we're going (destination), the most common archetypes are rendered through character and symbolism/situation.

One writer states that "A true encounter with an archetype is not only an experience of re-enchantment but also an experience which shakes us to our core".

Jung described the power of the archetype  as "numinous" as it is experienced as having qualities of the divine.

IMO Brokeback Mountain tapped into the power of archetypal imagery (eg. Climbing the mountain; the union of lovers etc) which may explain the similar powerful responses we report experiencing.
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« Reply #3699 on: June 03, 2015, 08:26:35 AM »

Very striking arguments. I'm strongly inclined to agree.

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« Reply #3700 on: June 03, 2015, 10:18:40 AM »

 the song may have ended but the melody lingers on.

Oh, I like that. Very poetic. And true.

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« Reply #3701 on: June 03, 2015, 10:28:41 AM »

MM, you very often seem to find the right and very well put words to express what's been going on in our hearts, souls and brains for the past 10 years.

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« Reply #3702 on: June 03, 2015, 11:45:45 PM »
MM, you very often seem to find the right and very well put words to express what's been going on in our hearts, souls and brains for the past 10 years.

 :)

Has it been that long!! :o
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« Reply #3703 on: June 04, 2015, 12:36:25 AM »
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the song may have ended but the melody lingers on.

Yes - it is poetic - and the credit goes to - Irving Berlin!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG9Ywkx05xo
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« Reply #3704 on: June 04, 2015, 01:14:44 AM »


The minute I heard my first love story,
I started looking for you, not knowing
how blind that was.
Lovers don't finally meet somewhere.
They're in each other all along.

― Rumi
The power of Love came into me
and I became fierce like a lion
then tender like the evening star - Rumi