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What is said in the tent on the second night?

Ennis says nothing and Jack says "It's alright."
306 (45.9%)
Ennis says "I'm sorry," and Jack says "It's alright."
204 (30.6%)
Ennis says nothing, and Jack says "I'm sorry" and "It's alright."
84 (12.6%)
I'm not sure.
31 (4.7%)
I don't care. Please make this topic go away!
41 (6.2%)

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Offline BlueJeanJeannie

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Re: Second Night in the Tent
« Reply #3900 on: February 24, 2016, 09:11:37 AM »
... I'm fairly sure that SNIT was central to my succumbing to Brokeback Fever.

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Re: Second Night in the Tent
« Reply #3901 on: February 25, 2016, 11:53:34 AM »
It's so long ago now... But I'm fairly sure that SNIT was central to my succumbing to Brokeback Fever. The virus perhaps? :)  And much as I usually like faithfulness to an original, the film has a life of its own and has moved and influenced thousands of people - well probably millions? - worldwide, and I would think that SNIT may well be at the core of this. It showed  the tenderness that can exist between men that many people had not given thought to before.

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Re: Second Night in the Tent
« Reply #3902 on: March 05, 2016, 08:56:19 PM »
Nicely put... If that post were the very last one here it would be a fitting closing remark. :))

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Re: Second Night in the Tent
« Reply #3903 on: March 06, 2016, 02:44:53 AM »
Let's hope not - well, it's already not so! :D
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Re: Second Night in the Tent
« Reply #3904 on: March 09, 2016, 08:04:49 PM »
SNIT took it from lust story to love story.  Need to watch it again come a rainy day; maybe tomorrow.:) 

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Re: Second Night in the Tent
« Reply #3905 on: March 14, 2016, 09:07:29 AM »
I've repeated myself for 10 years now, and I made up my mind that I would NOT chime in with my monotonous devotion to this thread again. Not that there's anything wrong with the thread (God knows I love it), but...

...but...

...but yesterday I stumbled into this.  It's copyrighted 2007, and it took until yesterday for me to encounter it. Maybe it's old hat, I don't know. I used our forum's new Search engine to try to find any matches, but drew blanks.

Anyhow, old or new, here it is. I think their honesty is second only to SNIT. You'll see what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8l3wla4L-k&spfreload=10

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« Last Edit: March 14, 2016, 11:22:06 AM by foreverinawe »
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Re: Second Night in the Tent
« Reply #3906 on: March 27, 2016, 04:20:46 PM »
It's so long ago now... But I'm fairly sure that SNIT was central to my succumbing to Brokeback Fever. The virus perhaps? :)  And much as I usually like faithfulness to an original, the film has a life of its own and has moved and influenced thousands of people - well probably millions? - worldwide, and I would think that SNIT may well be at the core of this. It showed  the tenderness that can exist between men that many people had not given thought to before.
I couldn't say at what point the virus invaded my system. I didn't even know it was there until I fell apart towards the end of the film and never quite got back together again. But for sure SNIT was a stunning moment on that journey. Ang Lee was wise to include it, considering that some people had already left cinemas when FNIT came along. SNIT was perfect for the film. I'm not sure how a director would have held and engaged an audience and got them involved in what is essentially a love story from the getgo if there wasn't that traditional love scene. The SS has its own ways of dealing with it.

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Re: Second Night in the Tent
« Reply #3907 on: March 27, 2016, 04:23:58 PM »
SNIT took it from lust story to love story.  Need to watch it again come a rainy day; maybe tomorrow.:)
Indeed. As I mentioned above, it's the way the different media handle the same situation. But also, in the film, Heath's approach to Ennis laid a different groundwork for the character's development, hence what is essentially a major shift from SS to film. In the opera AP has the benefit of having her boys articulate their thoughts so we are able to hear Ennis's confusion and conflicting desires.

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Re: Second Night in the Tent
« Reply #3908 on: August 17, 2017, 12:08:48 PM »
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Re: Second Night in the Tent
« Reply #3909 on: August 17, 2017, 04:27:13 PM »
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Re: Second Night in the Tent
« Reply #3910 on: August 17, 2017, 07:26:29 PM »
Oh, gosh, there are 261 pages of this thread *faints*.... This will take TIME....

Sonja, my name is Julia, nice to meet you m'am :).

Anyway, I've always had a suspicion that the real reason someone whispers " Sorry, sorry...."
and Jack whispers, It's allright..." is that the mechanics of the scene, perhaps got a shade too awkward at that precise moment and maybe almost came spontaneously to a halt. So, JG, slips out of character for a second and whispers that it's allright to continue - they can both hack it.
Sooo... that theory, that one post, changed my whole perspective. Could this be not Jack to Ennis - but Jake to Heath? Actor to actor? It very well could be.
Hunh. That was interesting and intriguing and let me smile, but i think i like my version better ;D.
What would i give for details on how JG and HL prepared themselves for this scene! They spoke about the reunion kiss, that it was so well concerted, each step and move defined, but there is hardly any comment on SNIT, right? Or do you know of any? It's even more intriguing to know since SNIT is something that is *not* in the original short story, so there *must* have been discussions between AL+JG+HL on why this should be part of the movie and how they act it out. I think i just remember a comment by Ang Lee that FNIT took 13 takes and reunion 2 takes, but SNIT?? No mentioning!... A total mystery...

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::) It does nothing to me... What makes me swoon was rather that (taken from the same Rosewood's post):

Then I love the shyness and nervousness and the fact that Ennis can't quite figure out where to put his hands. He's actually shaking with the force of his feelings, allowing Jack to seduce him completely.
This is an Ennis that we never really see again.
This, and the small puff of air Jack lets out when Ennis is finally with him on the ground. Jack was so nervous, too! It's his small sign of relief that Ennis did not reject him, but put himself in his arms. Have you seen this one?

You know what struck me right now re-watching this, that Ennis closes his eyes upon the kiss and does not re-open them at all. Or if he does open them after the kiss it's only for a short moment. I think it's brilliant. So true to the story of Ennis not being able to look "that thing" in the eye, avoiding to look at what he is doing, with whom he is doing it, but surrendering nevertheless.

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Re: Second Night in the Tent
« Reply #3911 on: August 18, 2017, 12:25:50 AM »
Oh, gosh, there are 261 pages of this thread *faints*....

I know... I've read them all. Every single post  *proud*

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Re: Second Night in the Tent
« Reply #3912 on: August 18, 2017, 12:42:37 AM »
I've read them all. Every single post  *proud*

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Re: Second Night in the Tent
« Reply #3913 on: August 18, 2017, 09:44:47 AM »

What would i give for details on how JG and HL prepared themselves for this scene! They spoke about the reunion kiss, that it was so well concerted, each step and move defined, but there is hardly any comment on SNIT, right? Or do you know of any?

Jake has said on Oprah (2006) that he doesn't remember anything  :laugh:

I only have SNIT on YouTube now, as my entire BBM collection is stored away in boxes - so I just replay the same clip over and over... sigh. I had sort of forgotten how touching it is.
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Re: Second Night in the Tent
« Reply #3914 on: August 18, 2017, 11:43:15 AM »
I haven't watched BBM for ages, but these new discussions have inspired me to get a bluray copy, and I'll look forward to seeing that on my new big tv! So well done Julia for getting us going again.😀

And I might even hear something I hadn't before....
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