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Petrus Christus

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Re: Gay and Christian in the World of Today II
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2008, 08:26:29 PM »

but i'll take the chance to wish you all a wonderful day and a good start into the new week.
i certainly have a good start, i'm in the process of wrapping up work here to start my new job - which seems like a dream so far.  ;)

therefore.....MUCH SUN for all of you this week...

  Thank you Martina.... :) :-* :-* :)

     Here's hoping you find your 'new job' a dream come true....!! :-* :-* :-*

  Zad

  P.S.  I envy you the time you spent with BrianR....., I'm sure he must be just a delight to have as company....!!  Now he's off to Sweden to visit with Tammy, and later off to Finland to visit with Jari........!! 
  I sincerely hope he someday soon makes it to New York.........., as I'll even take a day off without pay to visit with him.

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Re: Gay and Christian in the World of Today II
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2008, 03:18:39 AM »
Here is a stroy. The thing is what if it was a Muslim deface the Bible would we ingnore it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/18/us-removes-soldier-from-i_n_102341.html

from the information i got from this very brief article, i think the US handled it just right. 

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Re: Gay and Christian in the World of Today II
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2008, 07:22:07 AM »
P.S.  I envy you the time you spent with BrianR....., I'm sure he must be just a delight to have as company....!!  Now he's off to Sweden to visit with Tammy, and later off to Finland to visit with Jari........!! 
  I sincerely hope he someday soon makes it to New York.........., as I'll even take a day off without pay to visit with him.

:-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ Good heavens don't do that, I am sure it would be a let down. I would like to think I am pleasant company (mostly) but nothing special, I assure you.
Brian, who has just arrived in Stockholm and still shaking at the price of coffee, let alone visitng a WC. :)

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Re: Gay and Christian in the World of Today II
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2008, 07:26:14 AM »
P.S.  I envy you the time you spent with BrianR....., I'm sure he must be just a delight to have as company....!!  Now he's off to Sweden to visit with Tammy, and later off to Finland to visit with Jari........!! 
  I sincerely hope he someday soon makes it to New York.........., as I'll even take a day off without pay to visit with him.

:-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ Good heavens don't do that, I am sure it would be a let down. I would like to think I am pleasant company (mostly) but nothing special, I assure you.
Brian, who has just arrived in Stockholm and still shaking at the price of coffee, let alone visitng a WC. :)

You can be a silly sod! Brian's an utterly charming and fascinating man - my partner & I can both attest to that. :D We're envious that Martina and Jari and Tammy are having so much fun during his grand tour. How's Bev doing?
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Re: Gay and Christian in the World of Today II
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2008, 07:31:06 AM »
Thanks for asking, Davis. Bev (my sister who had a melanoma removed just as I left home 5 weeks ago now) has not let me know any further problems but  she told me she had to revisit the specialist in 6 weeks which I guess will be next week. I will certainly keep you informed and appreciate prayers.

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Re: Gay and Christian in the World of Today II
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2008, 08:31:01 AM »
I miss numbering the Sundays after Trinity too, but we're in a brave new world now!!

And I miss the pre-Lenten season, too. The old Lutheran hymnal had a whole section of hymns just for the period "Septuagesima to Lent." And I miss when (for Lutherans, anyway), every Sunday from Septuagesima to Pentecost (except Easter) had a Latin name!  ;D

Maybe you really belong at St Clement's!! ;) ;) ;)

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Re: Gay and Christian in the World of Today II
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2008, 08:50:03 AM »
P.S.  I envy you the time you spent with BrianR....., I'm sure he must be just a delight to have as company....!!  Now he's off to Sweden to visit with Tammy, and later off to Finland to visit with Jari........!! 
  I sincerely hope he someday soon makes it to New York.........., as I'll even take a day off without pay to visit with him.

:-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ Good heavens don't do that, I am sure it would be a let down. I would like to think I am pleasant company (mostly) but nothing special, I assure you.
Brian, who has just arrived in Stockholm and still shaking at the price of coffee, let alone visitng a WC. :)

you definitely ARE a VERY pleasant company, brian! i really enjoyed our much-too-short afternoon together in vienna !  :)
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Re: Gay and Christian in the World of Today II
« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2008, 10:34:46 AM »
Here is a stroy. The thing is what if it was a Muslim deface the Bible would we ingnore it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/18/us-removes-soldier-from-i_n_102341.html

from the information i got from this very brief article, i think the US handled it just right. 


I agree but I was referring to, which looks like I did a poor job again, was why media has not reported it. It could show to some Muslims that we all are not intolerant all the time.

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Re: Gay and Christian in the World of Today II
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2008, 04:34:07 AM »
Here is a stroy. The thing is what if it was a Muslim deface the Bible would we ingnore it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/18/us-removes-soldier-from-i_n_102341.html

from the information i got from this very brief article, i think the US handled it just right. 


I agree but I was referring to, which looks like I did a poor job again, was why media has not reported it. It could show to some Muslims that we all are not intolerant all the time.

or it could show that we are.  depending on your view, from the perspective of the actions taken after the fact or the actions taken which defaced the Koran.

it was noted on by some media or we wouldn't have found it.  maybe the army asked it stay small. maybe the newspeople didn't think it warranted a lot of time or space.  maybe they were afraid the attention would be on the person who defaced the book in the first place and cause an uproar.  with the media, who knows.   ???

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Re: Gay and Christian in the World of Today II
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2008, 07:51:28 AM »
My God, it's like old home week around here.  Sorry for being gone for the last couple of day's, we are getting our Bloom Masters planted here at the headquarters and keeping all these cute boys in line takes a lot of time and attention.  ;D  I swear we have half of the gay population of Vernal around here this week.  If I were foot loose and free it would resemble nothing more than a smorgasbord ;D

Well, the Mo Mo's have managed to piss off the Pope, big time.  I don't blame him in the least.  Their practice of doing surreptitious baptisms for the dead has come back and gotten a firm lip lock on their collective ass.  I have never quite figured out why the hell they do that anyway.  Normally, if it doesn't make money, they aren't interested and I can't see where there would be much profit in a vicarious baptism for a corpse.   Thats a pretty chicken shit way of gaining converts if you ask me.  Not only that, it really tends to frost the individual's relatives.  They gave up baptising victims of the holocaust.  Israel was really getting hot about it.  As if trying to get rid of the Nazis weren't enough.  They finally gave that up and started collecting Catholic Parish records and were busily vicariously baptising innocent dead Catholics in to the Mormon Church.  How tacky.  Benedict is not amused.  I felt sorry for these poor folks.  The Catholic men had it by far the worse.   Here they were, happily in waiting in purgatory for the judgement and slam bam thank you mam, suddenly they were in the Spirit World hanging out with Brigham Young and Joseph Smith and had five mothers in law.  That would be a spiritual shock to die for.  ;D

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« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2008, 08:10:36 AM »
Like the pope, I used to get riled up about these posthumous conversions, but really, it's just so bloody silly.... ::)
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Re: Gay and Christian in the World of Today II
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2008, 09:03:53 AM »
Well, the Mo Mo's have managed to piss off the Pope, big time.  I don't blame him in the least.  Their practice of doing surreptitious baptisms for the dead has come back and gotten a firm lip lock on their collective ass.  I have never quite figured out why the hell they do that anyway.

Well, this outsider understood that it was done so your ancestors could be with you in Heaven, or Kolob, or wherever. Is that not true?

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Here they were, happily in waiting in purgatory for the judgement and slam bam thank you mam, suddenly they were in the Spirit World hanging out with Brigham Young and Joseph Smith and had five mothers-in-law.  That would be a spiritual shock to die for.  ;D

Having five mothers-in-law? That's probably the best argument against polygamy. ... As Ennis would say, "One's enough."  ;D

Like the pope, I used to get riled up about these posthumous conversions, but really, it's just so bloody silly.... ::)

It is bloody silly. But it's also bloody disrespectful. Whoda ever thunk I'd agree with the Bishop of Rome on anything?  :o

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Re: Gay and Christian in the World of Today II
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2008, 09:34:20 AM »
Jeff,

Keeping the relatives in one big happy is only a small part of the reason the Mo Mo's "dunk for the dead" as we called it as a kid.  The main reason is their endless craving for sheer numbers.  They want the NUMBERS.  They don't care who they may or may be not related to, they will go and photograph records from little country churches in Switzerland for example to the records of Canterbury Cathedral and then baptize the whole bloody lot into the Mo Mo Church.  It is all about the numbers.  They think they are giving them the chance to "accept the gospel of Christ' in heaven if they missed out on the opportunity on earth. 

Davis, you are right, it is just silly.  How could anyone think that it could "take".  It is just stupid.  I will say one thing for Joseph Smith, he was a clever son of a bitch, what an imagination.  It is also interesting that the Letters to the Editor in the Salt Lake Tribune are running two to one against the practice, many devout Mo Mo's want the practice stopped.  Should be intersting to see how things shake out here behind the Zion Curtain.  ;D

 

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« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2008, 10:27:46 AM »
They think they are giving them the chance to "accept the gospel of Christ' in heaven if they missed out on the opportunity on earth. 

Well, ain't that generous of 'em?  ::)

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Re: Gay and Christian in the World of Today II
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2008, 11:07:03 AM »
^^^^ Insulting, maybe, but many non-mormon researchers into family history regard their efforts as a god-send.