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Re: Gay Marriage: Inciting a backlash, or dragging along too slowly?
« Reply #5145 on: April 19, 2014, 11:04:06 PM »
Surprising how quickly some people "evolve" when a family member is involved...

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Re: Gay Marriage: Inciting a backlash, or dragging along too slowly?
« Reply #5146 on: April 20, 2014, 10:27:48 PM »
doesn't say much for their ability to empathise, does it.  to be able to put themselves in another's shoes, so to speak.
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Re: Gay Marriage: Inciting a backlash, or dragging along too slowly?
« Reply #5147 on: April 21, 2014, 12:07:20 AM »
No It doesn't.
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Re: Gay Marriage: Inciting a backlash, or dragging along too slowly?
« Reply #5148 on: April 21, 2014, 01:06:43 AM »
doesn't say much for their ability to empathise, does it.  to be able to put themselves in another's shoes, so to speak.


I think that's the main problem with a lot of people, rather than outright malevolent homophobia: it's the 'Why do "they" need it?' attitude. I've come across this several times.
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Re: Gay Marriage: Inciting a backlash, or dragging along too slowly?
« Reply #5149 on: April 21, 2014, 06:08:42 AM »
I find this hard to understand too. As with racism, how many families don't have at least one gay person within them, or a black or asian member, but people still speak of "they" as if "they are an alien species.
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Re: Gay Marriage: Inciting a backlash, or dragging along too slowly?
« Reply #5150 on: April 29, 2014, 06:00:44 AM »
this is welcome news and long overdue imho...

The Cleveland-headquartered United Church of Christ filed a lawsuit in federal court in Charlotte today challenging a North Carolina law that prevents gay couples from obtaining a marriage license, and which makes it a crime for ministers to officiate at a same-sex marriage ceremony.  read more...

http://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2014/04/united_church_of_christ_sues_n.html

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Re: Gay Marriage: Inciting a backlash, or dragging along too slowly?
« Reply #5151 on: April 29, 2014, 02:24:07 PM »
A classic case of the state overreaching to demean gay people even more, and their overreach coming back to bite them.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Inciting a backlash, or dragging along too slowly?
« Reply #5153 on: May 10, 2014, 09:38:08 AM »
this is welcome news and long overdue imho...

The Cleveland-headquartered United Church of Christ filed a lawsuit in federal court in Charlotte today challenging a North Carolina law that prevents gay couples from obtaining a marriage license, and which makes it a crime for ministers to officiate at a same-sex marriage ceremony.  read more...

http://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/index.ssf/2014/04/united_church_of_christ_sues_n.html

I said a couple of years ago a novel legal way to overturn all this crap is to use the bigots very cases against them. Turn the tables by having these "marriage laws and constitutional amendments" so rampant with the religious right infringe on a more liberal group's religious freedom. By golly...  I was very surprised, shocked really to see this case filed in a NC court.   I will be watching it closely. The United Church of Christ just rose to a new elevation in my book by walking the walk.   Cheers. V.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Inciting a backlash, or dragging along too slowly?
« Reply #5155 on: May 14, 2014, 01:33:05 PM »

And more good headlines today:

Federal Judge Denies Request for Stay of Ruling Striking Down Idaho's Gay Marriage Ban

But as we know from the Prop 8 case, if there's any avenue left open these groups keep
trying...Idaho must now appeal to the Ninth Circuit for a stay request if they want to keep
going...but these two headlines are worth noting becasue stays were granted in every step
of the way when Prop 8 ws being tried and here we have two NOT granted!

...and...

Federal Judge Denies NOM's Attempts to Intervene in Challenge to Oregon's Gay Marriage Ban

U.S. District Judge Michael McShane has denied efforts by the National Organization for Marriage to intervene
in the federal challenge to Oregon's gay marriage ban, The Oregonian reports: Judge Michael J. McShane's
decision, made from the bench following an hour of oral arguments, may still be appealed by the group.

Of course, NOM will not let it go. They use this as a fundrasier.

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Re: Gay Marriage: Inciting a backlash, or dragging along too slowly?
« Reply #5156 on: May 18, 2014, 12:45:35 AM »
i don't know that anyone anticipated that it would be the most bigoted states that would be the first to fall.  i can't think of any article i may have read or interview i may have seen that posited the results we are seeing today.  and the schadenfreude is so delicious it ought to be on a dessert cart.
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Re: Gay Marriage: Inciting a backlash, or dragging along too slowly?
« Reply #5157 on: May 20, 2014, 02:03:57 AM »
as of monday morning, or afternoon, depending on your time zone, oregon became the next marriage equality state.  over, done.
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Re: Gay Marriage: Inciting a backlash, or dragging along too slowly?
« Reply #5158 on: May 20, 2014, 12:19:55 PM »
i don't know that anyone anticipated that it would be the most bigoted states that would be the first to fall.  i can't think of any article i may have read or interview i may have seen that posited the results we are seeing today.  and the schadenfreude is so delicious it ought to be on a dessert cart.

I have friends in Oregon who have formerly rubbed my nose in how progressive that State has been compared to where I live.  RI legalized gay marriage a while back: you're right Jack, the schadenfreude is particularly delicious today...
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Re: Gay Marriage: Inciting a backlash, or dragging along too slowly?
« Reply #5159 on: May 20, 2014, 02:30:59 PM »
And now, Pennsylvania!

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