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Re: "Stronger" discussion thread - Spoilers allowed
« Reply #75 on: November 28, 2017, 11:02:31 PM »
It's not coming to Germany until June 2018! But I do really believe it can be "too American" for an european audience. Being honest, I don't think I would be interested in the film if Jake wasn't in it, but that's just me.

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Re: "Stronger" discussion thread - Spoilers allowed
« Reply #76 on: November 29, 2017, 01:40:07 PM »
I do really believe it can be "too American" for an european audience.

It didn't do well here at all, I believe  :(  Jeff's story may be exeptional and inspirational, but I can see why it wouldn't appeal to a large "mainstream" audience.

Maybe this is one of those movies you'll appreciate more in the privacy of your own home. I'm looking forward to seeing it (on DVD).

Being honest, I don't think I would be interested in the film if Jake wasn't in it, but that's just me.

I've felt that way about 'Southpaw'. And 'Okja'. And even 'Nightcrawler' at first  :laugh:  And maybe even one or two others over the years. Ah well.
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Re: "Stronger" discussion thread - Spoilers allowed
« Reply #77 on: April 23, 2018, 02:55:45 PM »
Uhm.

Are there more people who have seen 'Stronger' now that it's available online (at least it is here) and on DVD?
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Re: "Stronger" discussion thread - Spoilers allowed
« Reply #78 on: April 23, 2018, 04:02:00 PM »

Not yet.
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« Reply #79 on: April 24, 2018, 11:59:20 PM »
*waits*...  ;D
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Re: "Stronger" discussion thread - Spoilers allowed
« Reply #80 on: April 28, 2018, 01:37:00 PM »
I watched Stronger on Monday. Unfortunately no chance to see the original version, so had to watch it dubbed in German.
I was the only person in the cinema.  :(

I really feel sorry for Jake. I don‘t know, what‘s going on. I mean, to be honest, I wouldn‘t have watched the movie if Jake hadn‘t been in it. But there are tons of movies that don‘t interest me and still other people watch them. But with Jake‘s movies I really have the feeling, no matter what the movie is about, people just don‘t care for them. And I really don‘t understand why.  :( Because for sure there also have been movies I would have watched if Jake hadn‘t been in them.

Anyway, I thinj Jake‘s acting was great, as was to be expected. Jeff Baumann did not necessarily come across as an extremely lovely person and his family seemed rather horrible.... So I wonder if the real Jeff Baumann wasn’t a bit bothered by this...  :">
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Re: "Stronger" discussion thread - Spoilers allowed
« Reply #81 on: April 28, 2018, 02:15:43 PM »
so had to watch it dubbed in German.
I was the only person in the cinema.  :(

1. Oh dear...
2. Really!?
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« Reply #82 on: April 28, 2018, 02:16:47 PM »
But with Jake‘s movies I really have the feeling, no matter what the movie is about, people just don‘t care for them. And I really don‘t understand why. 

This is really, really hard to understand - and yet, it seems true.

For the time being, at least.
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Re: "Stronger" discussion thread - Spoilers allowed
« Reply #83 on: April 28, 2018, 02:17:10 PM »
Jeff Baumann did not necessarily come across as an extremely lovely person and his family seemed rather horrible.... So I wonder if the real Jeff Baumann wasn’t a bit bothered by this...

Hm...
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Re: "Stronger" discussion thread - Spoilers allowed
« Reply #84 on: April 28, 2018, 03:19:34 PM »
Hm...

Hm.... I realize, what I wrote sounded a bit mean...
He wasn‘t totally unlikeable, but let‘s say I really understood why Erin had left him...
He redeemed himself a bit later, though.

There was one scene that was really hard to watch for me, regarding the whole hero thing. It‘s the scene where he is at a sports event to carry/ wave the flag... It felt like he was presented like in a circus and he looked so uncomfortable and helpless. I found this scene somehow worse than the painful scenes regarding his legs for instance in the hospital. :(
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Re: "Stronger" discussion thread - Spoilers allowed
« Reply #85 on: April 28, 2018, 04:53:49 PM »

I understand.
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Re: "Stronger" discussion thread - Spoilers allowed
« Reply #86 on: April 29, 2018, 02:11:19 AM »
Hi ((((Uli))))!!  :-*

Long time no see! How are you?
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Re: "Stronger" discussion thread - Spoilers allowed
« Reply #87 on: April 29, 2018, 02:32:20 AM »
I was the only person in the cinema.  :(

Sigh. Yes, it's true what you say. 'Stronger' wasn't exactly a box office hit - anywhere. Not in the US, not in the UK... Janie has said that in the UK, it came and went so fast, she didn't even know it was out  :(  Same here. I was in the middle of a move when it was out and it disappeared so fast I didn't even have the chance to go.

It's a shame. Jake is considered one of the best actors of his generation, and yet... I'm not sure what kind of project people expect of him. A romcom? He tried that. Action movies? He tried that. He's tried so many things and he's usually good or even great - or sometimes even the best thing about a movie.

Maybe it's the scripts... I don't know.

Jeff Baumann did not necessarily come across as an extremely lovely person and his family seemed rather horrible....

True. So true. I really disliked his mother. Or the actress who played her. Or both. Well, you know...  ;D

I wonder if the real Jeff Baumann wasn’t a bit bothered by this...  :">

He wasn't. Jeff has said that, as far as the acting was concerned, they got everything right.
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Re: "Stronger" discussion thread - Spoilers allowed
« Reply #88 on: April 29, 2018, 12:21:59 PM »
Hi ((((Uli))))!!  :-*

Long time no see! How are you?

Hi!!!   :-*

Thanks, I am quite okay! CMBYN brought me out of hiding.  :D

I followed the threads a bit, though, just lurking. So I had seen you were busy with moving. I moved last summer and still not everything is finished...  ??? :D

And I read about your worries about your father... It‘s hard with the parents getting older and sicker...  :(
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When your lips touch mine and I lose control
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« Reply #89 on: April 29, 2018, 12:38:49 PM »
I had seen you were busy with moving. I moved last summer and still not everything is finished...  ??? :D

All is finished here, except my bedroom, which will probably be a 10 year project  ;D

And I read about your worries about your father... It‘s hard with the parents getting older and sicker...  :(

Yes, it is  :(  My dad won't be coming home again, unfortunately. He needs much care and will be transferred to another nursing home soon, hopefully one that's close by.
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