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Offline Lyle (Mooska)

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017
« Reply #60 on: January 14, 2017, 01:36:00 PM »
So much BS, word-twisting and mind reading--and martyrdom!--in such a short space. Enough said.
Definitely not worth unraveling all that misinformation.

Wow, such hostility and dismissiveness.  :o
I do not accept dismissal as a tactic like the p-elect does. As someone remarked
who PM'd me, you really don't have much of a sense of humor, do you? I really think
you are talking about yourself in the above quote.  Is "Miss Information" your drag name?    ;)


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Re: News and Current Events - 2017
« Reply #61 on: January 14, 2017, 01:54:22 PM »
I have had years watching you trying to ensnare people into your petty games, Lyle. (Your most comical being your attempt to pawn off your assessments on some mysterious, anonymous PMer. If you think no one can figure out that the bait is to wonder whether that's your imaginary friend, or some actual person, and if so, Oh my! Who doesn't like me, and confides their secrets only to Lyle!

No one cares, Lyle. And you're not fooling anyone. Everyone here knows your silly games. I'm sure some are still taking the bait; I'm not interested.

I had forgotten though, that the only way to deal with your posts was try to look past them. Many members have requested a mute feature, and it comes in handy on twitter, but alas, our software company still does not offer it. I had forgotten I had to try to do it personally for a handful of members, you being at the top of the list.

Thanks for the reminder. If I can be disciplined, I won't read another word you write--until yet another complaint comes to me and I'm forced. Bye. Good luck with therapy.
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Re: News and Current Events - 2017
« Reply #62 on: January 14, 2017, 03:13:25 PM »
I actually find Melania impressive in most ways, aside from marrying a buffoon. (Though she has apparently left him.)

Hunh? Is this supposed to be the real reason she's staying in New York, instead of so the boy can finish the school year?

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017
« Reply #63 on: January 14, 2017, 03:22:17 PM »
I have had years watching you trying to ensnare people into your petty games, Lyle. (Your most comical being your attempt to pawn off your assessments on some mysterious, anonymous PMer. If you think no one can figure out that the bait is to wonder whether that's your imaginary friend, or some actual person, and if so, Oh my! Who doesn't like me, and confides their secrets only to Lyle!

No one cares, Lyle. And you're not fooling anyone. Everyone here knows your silly games. I'm sure some are still taking the bait; I'm not interested.

I had forgotten though, that the only way to deal with your posts was try to look past them. Many members have requested a mute feature, and it comes in handy on twitter, but alas, our software company still does not offer it. I had forgotten I had to try to do it personally for a handful of members, you being at the top of the list.

Thanks for the reminder. If I can be disciplined, I won't read another word you write--until yet another complaint comes to me and I'm forced. Bye. Good luck with therapy.

Not that anyone cares and not that Dave will be reading this, but I'm replying anyway.

First, if someone says a person doesn't have a sense of humor, it doesn't necessarily follow that said person doesn't like them,
but nice tactic, either trying to get me to reveal sources, or calling me out as a liar. I guess I opened myself up for that. But I'll
agree with the assessment, and you proved my point with that post, so I'll take full responsibility. If you actually want to verify
the source of the PM, don't the moderators have the capacity to get into those forbidden areas, I recall being told that once by
one of them?

I could also throw the same thing back at you, too, saying you've got yet "another complaint about me."
From "some mysterious PMer's?" Imaginary friend? Actual person?

As for "ensnaring people into petty games" -- it's true I tend to argue my points incessantly, especially on current events,
and I'm guessing it provokes some when I keep at it, but it's not out of trying to play games with anyone; petty, silly or otherwise.

Let me know when you're in town promoting your book when it comes out.  I'd like to buy you some drinks.

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017
« Reply #64 on: January 14, 2017, 04:46:06 PM »
Not that anyone cares and not that Dave will be reading this, but I'm replying anyway.

As my dad would say, "Ho--lee cow." Lyle, I wouldn't want to see you "muted."

I am surprised to see that kind of personal attack from Dave Cullen. Maybe I shouldn't be, but I am.

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017
« Reply #65 on: January 14, 2017, 05:33:09 PM »




Well Toby Keith is in!


Toby Keith doesn't give a damn what the haters think ... he says his Donald Trump Inauguration performance isn't a personal favor, it's for the good ole U.S. of A.

Keith has faced a ton of backlash since it was announced Friday he'd be part of a show at The Lincoln Memorial the night before Trump is sworn in. However, Keith is sticking to his guns, saying, "I don't apologize for performing for our country or military," in an interview with EW.

In fact, Trump isn't the only Prez Toby's played for ... he backs up his stance by naming shows he did for both George Bush and President Obama, not to mention the 200 he's played for the armed forces.




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Re: News and Current Events - 2017
« Reply #66 on: January 14, 2017, 06:50:52 PM »
As my dad would say, "Ho--lee cow." Lyle, I wouldn't want to see you "muted."

I am surprised to see that kind of personal attack from Dave Cullen. Maybe I shouldn't be, but I am.

If it wasn't clear, you wouldn't see anyone muted. I'm referring to a feature were a member can individually mute another so they don't see their posts, like on twitter and many others. It wouldn't affect you.

You have a different perspective. I have a decade of dealing with his accusations and innuendo, and frustrated by him doing it again right now on multiple threads. In retrospect, I should have done it by PM rather than publicly. I apologize for that aspect.

Offline Lyle (Mooska)

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017
« Reply #67 on: January 14, 2017, 10:27:05 PM »

Since it is public, I am stating that if anyone is wondering what accusations and innuendo is being talking about,
the last ten years no less, so am I.

As for recently, I merely posted one disagreement on the Most Anticipated Film Thread, I made no accusations or
anything else. On the current events thread I was accused of being desperate and sad, being a liar, playing games,
writing BS, word twisting, mind reading, supplying misinformation, playing petty and/or silly games and being a martyr.
Not to mention advised to seek therapy. And I wasn't going to respond to those attacks?

Offline Jeff Wrangler

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017
« Reply #68 on: January 15, 2017, 01:04:10 PM »
You have a different perspective. I have a decade of dealing with his accusations and innuendo, and frustrated by him doing it again right now on multiple threads. In retrospect, I should have done it by PM rather than publicly. I apologize for that aspect.

Time goes quickly. I've been around here longer than you might think--longer than I might remember.

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017
« Reply #69 on: January 15, 2017, 01:37:07 PM »

Celebs celebrate the closure of Ringling Bros. circus with PETA activist Pamela Anderson claiming victory that the 'saddest show on earth' is finishing after 146 years

    The famous circus will have its final show in May, it was announced on Saturday

    Ticket sales rapidly declined after elephants were taken out of the show last May

    The show has been a staple of American family entertainment since the 1800s

    Celebrities and animal rights activists are celebrating the news about it closing

    Baywatch star Pamela Anderson, who is an outspoken animal rights activist tweeted 'IT'S OVER' while sharing a statement from PETA


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Offline Lyle (Mooska)

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017
« Reply #70 on: January 15, 2017, 01:58:00 PM »

We're only days away from the unthinkable, and NYT columnist Paul Krugman
(and Nobel Prize winning economist) isn't soothing anyone's anxieties over that:

Friday he said, "We are, I'd argue, in much deeper and more treacherous waters
than even the pessimists are saying."


Yikes!

He believes because of the even more recent revelations about Russia's hacking
and FBI director Comey's involvement in the campaign, that more and more people
consider the past election was tainted. (He didn't even mention Congressman John
Lewis publicly stating this and refusing to go to the inauguration. Not to mention that
the p-elect has nevr said anything bad or negative about Russia and yet has called the
intelligence agencies he'll be relying on "Nazi's.")

Krugman says, "A clever, self-controlled Trump would be careful now to preserve appearances and wait for revenge; but instead he's confirming his status as Putin's poodle/stooge with every tweet." "Pretty soon everyone will think of him as a Manchurian candidate, even those pretending not to."

In Krugman's assessment, once the idea takes hold that Trump's election was tainted, there are few options for how it could play out in a positive way.

From Krugman: "Yet there is no normal political mechanism to deal with this reality. So what happens? The GOP decides to impeach to install Pence? Mass people-power demonstrations? He orders the military to do something illegal and we have disobedience by the national security state? Or, alternatively, overt intimidation of critics by Trump gangs? Don't call this silly — tell me how this ends."

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017
« Reply #71 on: January 16, 2017, 09:11:11 AM »



Happy Martin Luther King day!

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017
« Reply #72 on: January 16, 2017, 10:44:48 AM »
Happy Dr Martin Luther King's Birthday, y'all!

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017
« Reply #73 on: January 16, 2017, 11:18:41 AM »
It's been really bothering me that some of my journo colleagues have been joining Trump in trash-talking Buzzfeed as a garbage site (using various terms like that).

I get why some journos disagree with their decision on publishing the long, unverified report on Trump and the Russians, and I think both sides of that debate have very valid points. It's reasonable to see BuzzFeed as making a terrible choice here.

But then piling on and characterizing them as garbage--that's just nuts. BuzzFeed started out publishing silly stuff and continues to do that, driving huge traffic and earning a ton of money. But very early on, they started plowing much of that money into a really serious news operation, and hired some of the best in the business. They have foreign operations that would shame many "legitimate" brand-name news outlets. They do great stuff--whether or not you agree with them in this case.

Offline Lyle (Mooska)

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017
« Reply #74 on: January 16, 2017, 01:20:17 PM »

Does anyone seriously think that if something similar about President Obama or Hillary Clinton had been
dredged up like that it wouldn't have been out there for all to see?

So called legitimate news organizations have been putting out stories about Obama's fake birth certificate
for eight years, most notably the p-elect who said he had verifiable sources. What's good for the goose?
What goes around comes around?  In some replies to the press about untrue stories that the p-elect
spouted during the campaign his reply was, "All I know is what I read on the internet."  How many fake
news stories about Hillary Clinton's health did the press float about all summer?

The Republicans have been muddying the waters with this for years, putting out unsubstantiated things
that might be, could be, possibly be, have a ring of truth or possibility, so as to get people to distrust even
facts they are hearing. "It could be some 400 pound man sitting in a bed after all, so don't believe everything
you hear."

I don't know if BuzzFeed should have put that online or not, but I do not care that they did, either.  They never
said it was verified information. Which, brings to my mind, how can something not verified, meaning it could be
actually true, be "fake"?  If it's unverified it could be true. It could not be.  So isn't labeling it fake a judgment that
might be wrong, too?

Perhaps many news organizations are just jealous that BuzzFeed published it.  If you look at surveys of conservatives
and Trump supporters in particular, they believe a lot of fake things and it gets reported.  Three million illegal immigrants
voted illegally for Hillary. Obama is a muslim.  Obama wasn't born in the U.S.  Trump knows more about Isis than the
generals and he alone can fix it.

In this season of fake news, we are going to have a fake president.