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Re: Sports: Football, Baseball, Bball, Hockey, Etc.
« Reply #7170 on: January 06, 2018, 11:25:33 PM »
The US National Figure Skating Championships are still giving us surprises.

Tonight was the artistic program for the men.  After the short program, it was all going as expected.   Nathan Chen was the leader, with Adam Rippon in second and Jason Brown in third.  General consensus was these three men would be the Olympic team.

The committee that makes up the team finds itself in a bind again.   :laugh:

The 2017 National Silver medalist (Vincent Zhou) turned in a program that included 5 quad jump attempts.   While they were not all landed cleanly (either under-rotated or two-footed landings) he had no falls, and was placed in 1st.

Next was Ross Miner.  Miner had won medals at the National Championships from 2011-2013, but was unable to match that success after that.  He skated a performance that had the audience cheering loudly.  He landed a quad jump, and all his triple jumps, and was placed in 1st, pushing Zhou to second.

Adam Rippon (an expected medalist) came into the competition very secure, saying in an interview that "this is the best season I've had" and "the only way I won't make the Olympic team was if others competitors’ mothers are on the selection committee.”   At the start of his program he fell on his Quad Lutz jump.  He recovered quickly and began landing all his triple jumps and combinations.   His second triple Axle was a clean landing, but after that success he lost his concentration.  He had two jumps left in his program, and he singled them both, losing a ton of technical points.  He was placed in third.

Next was Jason Brown (another expected medalist).  He doesn't regularly land quad jumps, but given the competition, he had to at least attempt one.  He did, and he fell on it.  While he had great artistry, he then two-footed his two triple-Axel jumps, and singled out a third jump.  The end result was the judges placing him fifth.

Last to skate was Nathan Chen.  He had been off the ice the prior week, recovering from an illness.  He landed 5 clean quad jumps in his program, his lone mistake was turning a triple axel into a single.  He was placed first, pushing everyone back one spot.

Miner finished second,  Zhou third.  Rippon was bumped from the podium to fourth, and Brown ended in 6th.

Now the committee has to debate what to do now.   Chen is a two-time national champion, and will go to the Olympics.   Zhou was last year's sliver medalist, and competed well on the international circuit this season, so he will make the team.  This leaves silver medalist Ross Miner, and 4th place finisher Adam Rippon.

Rippon placed 4th.  His season so far has been good.  At three prior competitions (from October through December of 2017) he won a bronze, and two silvers, and skated to 5th place at the Grand Prix Final.

Miner placed 2nd.  His season (compared to Rippon) was good, but not as good.  He skated in three international competitions, and placed 5th in one and 6th in the two others.

the committee will debate whether to send Miner, or bump him off the team to send Rippon.

Rippon's comment after the competition was:   “I knew that there was a criteria set to be selected for the Olympic team, and I feel like I have better criteria than second and third place here,” he said Saturday night, according to U.S. Figure Skating. “But that being said, Vincent and Ross skated well tonight, and no matter what the selection is I will be 100 percent OK and can handle that. My Grand Prixs are better than everybody’s except for Nathan’s.”

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Re: Sports: Football, Baseball, Bball, Hockey, Etc.
« Reply #7171 on: January 07, 2018, 10:25:07 AM »
A statement was just released that the Olympic team will be Nathan Chen,  Vincent Zhou, and Adam Rippon.  Silver medal winner Ross Miner was bumped off of the team.

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« Reply #7172 on: January 07, 2018, 10:28:14 AM »
The US National Figure Skating Championships are still giving us surprises.

After the short program, it was all going as expected.   Nathan Chen was the leader, with Adam Rippon in second and Jason Brown in third.  General consensus was these three men would be the Olympic team.
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Brown ended in 6th.


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« Reply #7173 on: January 07, 2018, 10:33:25 AM »
A statement was just released that the Olympic team will be Nathan Chen,  Vincent Zhou, and Adam Rippon.  Silver medal winner Ross Miner was bumped off of the team.

Why was Ross Miner bumped if he was the silver medal winner?
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« Reply #7174 on: January 07, 2018, 01:09:04 PM »
If Adam skates to his own song recordings he'll win everyone's heart!!  :-* :-* :-*

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« Reply #7175 on: January 07, 2018, 02:35:18 PM »
The pairs competition is over for the US Nationals, and the husband/wife team of Alexa Scimeca Knierim, 26, and Chris Knierim, 30, made the Olympic team after topping the pairs figure skating program 2.17 points.

The Knierims have been the top-scoring U.S. pair each of the last four seasons and stood to be named the lone U.S. Olympic pairs team.   Due to the other teams' inability to get higher marks on the international level, the US is only eligible to send one pair to the Olympics this year.   The Knierims are hoping to score high enough that for next year's World Championships, the US will have at least two teams.

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« Reply #7176 on: January 07, 2018, 02:59:18 PM »
Why was Ross Miner bumped if he was the silver medal winner?


In the past, the USFSA (United States Figure Skating Association) has pretty much always sent the top three finishers (of any discipline) to the World Championships and Olympics.  The one big exception was in 1994, when Nancy Kerrigan didn't compete to the injury she sustained  in the attack.

The official rules for the figure skating committee to follow is that they are supposed to take in consideration the prior year's results for each skater, as well as their placements at Nationals.

Adam Rippon finished 4th at the Nationals.  However, since the start of the season (September 2017) Rippon went to 3 international competitions, and won either a bronze or silver medal.  This qualified him to go to the Grand Prix Final, where he placed 5th, skating against other skaters that would be at the Olympics.

Ross Miner finished 2nd at the Nationals.  Since the beginning of the season, Ross went to three international competitions, and finished 5th at one, and 6th at the two others.  His poor performances didn't qualify him to get to the Grand Prix Final, where Rippon finished 5th.

So the committee reviews this information and asks a question.....do they send a skater that had a great night at Nationals (and home ice) but did poorly on international competitions against other Olympic hopefuls, or do they send a skater who competed well in international competitions, but had a bad night at Nationals and missed the podium?

In this case, they decided  on the second option, and voted to send Adam Rippon.




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« Reply #7177 on: January 07, 2018, 05:48:39 PM »
the final part of the US National Championships is done, and the Ice Dancing results give us a surprise.

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The brother/sister team of Maia and Alex Shibutani won this competition for the past two years, and they were expected to three-peat before going into the Olympics.   In the end, silver medal favorites Madison Hubbell and Zachary Donohue found themselves in first place,  beating the Shibutanis by 0.19 when the final scores were totaled.

Bronze medal went to Madison Chock and Evan Bates.

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« Reply #7178 on: January 07, 2018, 07:29:29 PM »
thanks for explaining that, Chuck.  How do the US skaters stack up against the other countries?  Think we have a chance for men or women's individual medals?
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« Reply #7179 on: January 07, 2018, 08:36:15 PM »
thanks for explaining that, Chuck.  How do the US skaters stack up against the other countries?  Think we have a chance for men or women's individual medals?

Our Ice dance teams and Men should do well.   The brother/sister team of the Shibutanis are expected to win a medal at the Olympics.  They won gold medals on the Grand Prix circuit (at Skate America and Rostelecom Cup [Russia]).  In the Grand Prix Final, they won a bronze.

Nathan Chen is the only man to land 6 different quad jumps.  He is last year's and this year's national champion, and won gold medals at the US Skate Classic, Rostelecom Cup, Skate American, and won a gold at the Grand Prix Final, beating all the men he will be facing at the Olympics.

Our chances at a medal in pairs is 0.  We have only one pair going to the Olympics, and there are way too many better pairs.  They've already said that their goal is not a medal, but to finish high enough in the standings that next year, the US can send two pairs to the World Championships instead of just one.

The women....it's a toss up.   There is a large field of great international female skaters, but the sure bet for gold is Russia's Evgenia Medvedeva.   She has won EVERY competition she's entered last season and this season.   

On our team, Bradie Tennell is 19, but has only competed internationally once, so she's wild card.  The only reason she's going is because she won the National Championships this weekend.  Karen Chen finished 4th at last year's worlds, so if she keeps her nerves under control, she has a shot.  Mirai Nagasu finished 4th at the Olympics in 2010.  She has a strong fighting spirit, and has added the difficult triple Axel to her jump list, she is the only woman in the competition doing this.  If  she can land it, it could get her major technical points.

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« Reply #7180 on: January 11, 2018, 10:19:03 PM »
Hoping the Eagles win this one for the divisional round of the playoffs, but odds are with the Falcons. 

I've been listening to the Philly sports station online, and the fans seem split - some are raking Foles over the coals (that rhymes  :) ), and some have the "wait and see" attitude, hoping he can come back from the last 2 dismal games. 

The weather also might be an issue, temps at 6pm on Saturday will be 29 with a wind chill of 17 brrrrrrr!

Published on Jan. 11, 2018

The Falcons, after upsetting the Rams in the wild-card round, are the favorites to beat the top-seeded Eagles in Saturday's divisional playoff matchup in Philadelphia. The Falcons, however, will try to shake off some recent struggles in this matchup to live up to that surprising status.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/nfl-playoffs-falcons-vs-eagles-picks-predictions-odds-point-spread-line-divisional-round-game/23flkikw2cpz1xyj8sgovctpo

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« Reply #7181 on: January 11, 2018, 10:21:17 PM »
Chuck, thanks for the info about our chances, good to know...
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« Reply #7182 on: January 12, 2018, 07:04:13 AM »
Geaux Saints!

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« Reply #7183 on: January 13, 2018, 05:56:47 PM »
Even without Carson Wentz, the Eagles held on for a 15-10 win.




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« Reply #7184 on: January 13, 2018, 06:19:35 PM »
Good. As a Saints fan, don't care much for any Atlanta team.

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