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Title: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 02, 2013, 08:27:52 AM
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We have had some discussions in the TV thread about some of the older television shows.  Trying to keep that thread more on the current TV programs, some of us thought it would be a nice idea to start another thread and dedicate to some of the older well loved programs.


There have been some great ones, from the 1950's and 1960's with such classics as I Love Lucy, The Honeymooners, The Dick Van Dyke show and Bewitched.  Leave it to Beaver, My Three Sons, too many to list!

Some of the 60's TV shows carried into the 70's and then the 70's had some ground breaking television...........as they say "and then came Maude"  :D

Mary Tyler Moore continued on with a show of her own, as did Rhoda, and we can't forget Mr. Bunker.



Anyway I thought it may be fun, there are lots of links to old TV programs and I am sure everyone has their fond memories to share.  And let's not forget the cowboys and the westerns.


So I thought just to make this thread a little specific, we could discuss shows from 1950 to late 70's?


And as per the mods lets keep any pics safe for work!   But we do want pics, there are some beautiful ones out there.



Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 02, 2013, 08:51:54 AM
Lyle found a picture for your files:


(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/andy-griffith-show-3007_zps2adbb858.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 02, 2013, 09:40:10 AM
Love this new thread!!!   Thank you, bubba for the idea and thank you, Chuck for setting up the thread!!!

Can't think of a better bunch of people to be on the first post than the I LOVE LUCY quartet!  Especially since this is Desi Arnaz's birthday.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 02, 2013, 09:46:26 AM
I'm reminded of a foreign language phrase book in MAD magazine way back when (before Castro), in which one of the important phrases in the Cuba section was "No, I don't want to visit Desi Arnaz's birthplace". (Another one was, "Pilot, why are we landing in rebel territory?")

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 02, 2013, 09:51:02 AM
Any way of transferring some of the discussions on the other TV thread, say from the last two days, about classic TV shows to THIS thread to keep the discussions going?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 02, 2013, 09:57:44 AM
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Is this safe for work?


 :D


March 2, 1917 Dezi was born, I just checked.  I had no idea, I think it's a sign!!


I have been in Cuba and I never thought to go see where he was born, darn!  :D


You know the thing about shows like Andy Griffith, is they seemed like "regular folk". You could close your eyes and picture a little town like Mayberry, where they still live today in a parallel universe.


I don't mind some of the shows we have now, but it's  just not the same.    I can't drift off to sleep with thoughts of Law and Order SUV.  :-\



And yea maybe we can move our discussions over, we were having some good ones.


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 02, 2013, 10:13:30 AM
Here is a neat site:


http://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv-shows.htm


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 02, 2013, 10:14:33 AM
Love this new thread!!!   Thank you, bubba for the idea and thank you, Chuck for setting up the thread!!!


I can't take credit for setting it up, that was Bubba.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 02, 2013, 10:31:14 AM
Oh no Chuck you guided me in the right direction, I wouldn't have known where to start!  :D


And in "The Celebrity Next Door" episode of "The Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour," when Lucy pays $10 to the Mertzes to serve as her maid and butler, that's equal to $81.95 in today's dollars!  No wonder that Fred tells Ethel, "For ten bucks [Lucy] can say anything she wants to about me!"


Ricky and Lucy had way more money then the Mertze's!    The one I watched a week or so ago, Lucy and Ricky bought all new furniture and gave the Mertz's their old stuff.   Fred was a penny pincher!  :D


I was just googling to see what he did for a living - I thought he was the landlord!


It says here he was in vaudeville, was a boxer ....and owned the apartment building!

Can that be right?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Mertz
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 02, 2013, 10:38:14 AM
I was just googling to see what he did for a living - I thought he was the landlord!


It says here he was in vaudeville, was a boxer ....and owned the apartment building!

Can that be right?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Mertz


I wasn't a regular watcher of I Love Lucy, but I do remember episodes where Fred talked about his boxing.  I was never sure if the Mertzs were the landlords or building owners.   There were also episodes where The Copacabana did "Vaudeville Nights" and Fred & Ethel came "out of retirement" and would perform at The Copacabana with Ricky.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 02, 2013, 10:56:09 AM
Owning a brownstone in New York, Fred would be worth knowing!  :D

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 02, 2013, 11:20:50 AM
The Mertzes were retired vaudevillians who bought the apartment building as an investment after leaving show business and managed the building as well as owned it.  Fred was part of an act called Mertz and Kurtz but I got the impression that Kurtz left and that's when Mrs. Mertz--Ethel--teamed up with Fred.  The Mertzes were the Ricardos' best friends, landlords, and (as of episode #61, "The Ricardos Change Apartments", May 18, 1953) down-the-hall neighbors.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 02, 2013, 11:32:03 AM
So when they all moved to Conneticut (the country) wonder if Fred was suppose to have sold the building?  Loved those episodes, remember the chickens?   :D



Last Sunday I stumbled on an episode of I Love Lucy that I don't recall ever having seen before. It was one of the "Connecticut" episodes. The Ricardos, the Mertzes, and the Ramseys (neighbors) all went to a dance at the country club. To the annoyance of their wives, the men were all gaga over a pretty young thing. The pretty young thing was played by Barbara Eden, in one of her earliest TV roles.


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Just found this pic!


http://trakt.tv/show/i-love-lucy/season/6/episode/25
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 02, 2013, 11:41:45 AM
No, Fred still owned the building.  Mrs. Trumbull's sister moved in to manage it.

I do remember the chicken episode.  Hilarious.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 02, 2013, 11:44:26 AM
oops we posted at the same time!!   So it sounds like Fred had some money, he was just a penny pincher!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 02, 2013, 04:30:47 PM
I wasn't a regular watcher of I Love Lucy, but I do remember episodes where Fred talked about his boxing.  I was never sure if the Mertzs were the landlords or building owners.   There were also episodes where The Copacabana did "Vaudeville Nights" and Fred & Ethel came "out of retirement" and would perform at The Copacabana with Ricky.

You're channeling Barry Manilow, Sweetheart.  :D  :-* Ricky performed at a club called the Tropicana (just like the orange juice brand  ::) ), and then later he opened his own place, Club Babaloo.

But that's all right. You're way too young to remember any of this. (Pats Chuckie on the head. ...)  :D  :-*
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 02, 2013, 04:38:31 PM
Tell you what, we've mentioned the death of Bonnie Franklin, but this week we lost another veteran of Classic TV, in this case, Westerns. Dale Robertson, of Tales of Wells, Fargo and Iron Horse, passed away on Wednesday at age 89.

Last year a dear friend recorded a whole bunch of episodes of Iron Horse for me. The second lead on the show was the late Gary Collins, and one of the episodes had as a guest Mary Ann Mobley (aka Mrs. Gary Collins, though I don't know if they were married yet when she appeared on the show). Later episodes included, as a regular, an actress who went on to a highly respected career, a certain Ellen McCrae, better known as Ellen Burstyn.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 02, 2013, 04:47:28 PM
I knew he had some sort of club.  LOL

As for The Copacabana.......that's not just a Barry Manilow song.  There was a very popular club in NYC named "The Copacabana"  (Copa for short) that was a place that many Latin, disco and freestyle acts performed.  I've been there a few times, pretty cool place.



(http://www.showtimeny.com/Copacabana/Copacabana%20Collage.jpg)


At least I was right about the Mertzs.  :D :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 02, 2013, 05:04:48 PM
I just told my Mother in law about Dale, now she is upset!  :D   We are losing all the older ones..    THAT club looks amazing, we have nothing like that around here.  Heck we have nothing like the Club Babaloo.    

Ricky could play those bongo's couldn't he?  


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAV3bOJaQuY


Now I feel like listening to some Cuban Pete!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nMrIjBBov8
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 02, 2013, 05:13:28 PM
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Was anyone a fan of Gunsmoke, that show ran for 20 years!  :o


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 02, 2013, 05:21:05 PM
Oh yeah! The radio version too.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 02, 2013, 06:25:38 PM
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Was anyone a fan of Gunsmoke, that show ran for 20 years!  :o


(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/ARNESS-WEAVER-Gunsmoke_zps055b7ee4.jpg)

I don't remember the Dennis Weaver years of Gunsmoke (though I remember him as McCloud), but in my adolescence, when the show aired on Mondays, we never missed it. I don't remember Burt Reynolds in the show, either, though I know he played a half-breed blacksmith named Quint Aspers.

And I remember being shocked and saddened when Amanda Blake died of AIDs.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: suelyblu on March 02, 2013, 08:07:55 PM
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Was anyone a fan of Gunsmoke, that show ran for 20 years!  :o


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It's still being shown here in the UK !! Monday afternoons 12.30pm on TCM. two episodes at a time !!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 08:30:29 AM
Well it spanned so many years I am not sure if any of us could have even seen them all.  Maybe some saw it when it was first on, some the middle and me probably more the end.   I have no idea it was on radio Fritz, I just checked and it looks like it ran for 10 years on the radio.

Starring    James Arness
Milburn Stone
Amanda Blake (Seasons 1-19)
Dennis Weaver (Seasons 1-9)
Ken Curtis (Seasons 9-20)
Burt Reynolds (Seasons 8-10)
Buck Taylor (Seasons 13-20)
Glenn Strange (Seasons 7-18)
Roger Ewing (Seasons 11-12)


And I had no idea Amanda died of AIDS, I always thought she died of cancer??

I love Westerns I always have, Ponderosa was another favourite - The Cartwright boys,


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Fine looking bunch of fellas.






Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 03, 2013, 10:06:22 AM
Oh, Adam...

What a crush I had on him...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 10:16:18 AM
He really was a nice looking guy, but my heart belonged to Little Joe!  ;)   I actually did go on to enjoy Pernell in Trapper John though.


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 10:17:19 AM
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One more for you Lyle.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 03, 2013, 10:28:31 AM
Yes, Gunsmoke was on radio! I still listen to it with people in the Diner on a show called the Big Broadcast on Sunday nights at 8 pm Eastern. It's still good!

Yes, my crush was on Little Joe too!

But my all time crush was on Kirby Grant in Sky King when I was little, and later on on Don Grady in My Three Sons.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 11:12:57 AM
I had never heard of Sky King Fritz.   I definitely had a crush on Don Grady (Robby) I was sorry to hear of his passing.

And I followed Michael Landon from Little Joe to Pa Ingalls, Highway to Heaven - I feel like he never left my TV.  Another one taken from us too soon.  :'(



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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 11:15:21 AM
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Tabitha was just too cute!  :D


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 03, 2013, 11:54:46 AM
My first post, finally, on this thread is going to be about ADAM-12, which
premiered in 1968. It is currently showing on the Antenna-TV network,
usually alongside Dragnet. A friend and I have been watching it, mostly
on the weekend airings, and talking about it a bit.

So, when I was young and this show came on Saturday nights, I had a crush
on one of those officers, Kent McCord.

                               (http://tvseriesfinale.com/assets/adam1210m.jpg)

Lately he's been active in the SAG, he might've even been President of it for awhile.
When I worked at Virgin Megastore he came in once when it was quite empty and
I talked to him for a bit.  And the guy looks just about the same as he did in 1968,
whereas I now look older than he does!  ($%&#!)  At the time, I had just recently
seen an episode of Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In where he and Martin Milner were doing
some jokes as their Adam-12 personas and I mentioned to him that I had just seen that.
He was very nice. And I felt my crush coming back! I almost, really--a l m o s t told him
that I had had a crush on him way back when. I wish I had now.

Sigh.

And having watched many of these lately I'm finding Martin Milner was quite appaling, too.

He was also a regular on Route 66 with George Chakiris, but I have never seen much of that show.
By the way, I also used to see George Chakiris at my other job I had. George Chakiris is gay, if you
believe renting gay porn -- a lot -- is a good indication.

Some other gay tv stars of yesteryear that I met will probably get mentioned if we bring up their
shows here. We should keep a running tally!  Heh!

We could start with Bewitched for several right off the bat, lol!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 03, 2013, 12:11:41 PM
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This collage is great, except maybe for Alf being in it, lol.  I love the little touch
of putting the Have Gun, Will Travel business card in it!

I love the Christmas photos you posted, too, of Bonanza and Bewitched, where did you find those?
I haven't seen those before!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 03, 2013, 12:20:39 PM

As for westerns, I can't say I'm a huge fan of them, but anyone watching
TV in the 60's watched them becasue there were so many on. I always had
my eye on Doug McCLure in The Virginian, though.

(http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/54/5487/MVQKG00Z/posters/doug-mcclure-the-virginian.jpg)

I always liked him better as a sailor in WWII movies, however!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 03, 2013, 12:23:18 PM
(http://www.davidmacklin.com/images/Virg%20DE%20me%20dug%20looking%20out.JPG)

The actor on the right is someone named David Macklin. He has a website and
is still promoting himself all over the place!  Good for him!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 12:24:27 PM
I just googled "classic tv" and so many Christmas ones come up - I will post some more.

I do love the collage, but yea what is with ALF?  :D


As for Kent McCord, get in line honey.   I thought he was adorable and yea he is still is.   How cool that you met him!  I think I would have told him about your crush.  :-*

http://kentmccord.com/gallery/index.html


And I think we should talk about the classic TV stars of old who "came out".


And yea Daren #2 for sure!  Funny I felt like there was zero chemistry between Samantha and second Daren, compared to first Daren.   And then when I found out he was gay, I thought ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I see.


Of course that didn't hold true for McMillan and Wife, I thought they had incredible chemistry.   Are we "sure" Rock was gay?  :D



I am beginning to see all my crushes came from old TV shows, I think it stared with Dr. Kildaire, Richard Chamberlin.  
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 12:26:48 PM
As for westerns, I can't say I'm a huge fan of them, but anyone watching
TV in the 60's watched them becasue there were so many on. I always had
my eye on Doug McCLure in The Virginian, though.

(http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/54/5487/MVQKG00Z/posters/doug-mcclure-the-virginian.jpg)

I always liked him better as a sailor in WWII movies, however!


How adorable was he??  And married five times, wonder what he was looking for?  ::)  And he died so young, just terrible.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 03, 2013, 12:29:34 PM

I was friends for a time with a guy named Dean Jones. (Not that
Dean Jones.) And he resembled Doug McClure quite a bit only he
was even more good looking!  I told him once I had a thing for
Doug McClure and imagine my surprise when he told me that
he was friends with Doug McClure's daughter!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 03, 2013, 12:33:24 PM
Having watched many of these lately I'm finding Martin Milner was quite appaling, too.

Sorry, Martin. I meant "appealing" of course!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 12:35:09 PM
 :D :D  What are the chances of that?


I just thought of another one Robert Reed, Mr. and Mrs. Brady, didn't they seem perfect together?


Here is some great pics:

http://www.listal.com/list/hotties-from-1960s-television


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 03, 2013, 12:37:51 PM


He was also a regular on Route 66 with George Chakiris, but I have never seen much of that show.
By the way, I also used to see George Chakiris at my other job I had. George Chakiris is gay, if you
believe renting gay porn -- a lot -- is a good indication.

Some other gay tv stars of yesteryear that I met will probably get mentioned if we bring up their
shows here. We should keep a running tally!  Heh!

We could start with Bewitched for several right off the bat, lol!



Oh Lyle...

It was George MAHARIS who co-starred with Martin Milner, not West Side Story's George CHAKIRIS!

Are you sure YOU'RE gay?

I thought Maharis and Milner's other TV partner, Kent McCord, were just dreamy!

Not Milner, though.  Blah.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 03, 2013, 12:51:00 PM
Sorry, Martin. I meant "appealing" of course!

Kinda figured that's what you meant!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 03, 2013, 12:55:38 PM

Oh Lyle...

It was George MAHARIS who co-starred with Martin Milner, not West Side Story's George CHAKIRIS!

Yes, I meant Maharis, not Chakiris, although I did meet George Chakiris there, too, when
he was doing The King and I in a theatre in Long Beach. (I was supposed to see that, too,
but a friend couldn't make it and we had to reschedule and it was sold out and we didn't.

Quote
when he was doing The King and I in a theatre in Long Beach.

I wish!

Are you sure YOU'RE gay?

   Duh.

I thought Maharis and Milner's other TV partner, Kent McCord, were just dreamy!
Not Milner, though.  Blah.

Take another look!
(http://farm8.static.flickr.com/7162/6638446229_e197e45b9a.jpg)
I mean, look away, or?
Though he is 82 now!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 01:00:22 PM
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for Fritz!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 03, 2013, 01:01:02 PM
Yep! Kirby Grant was gorgeous!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 01:03:15 PM



Not bad and the show looks like a great premise!



And since the loin cloth was started! :D


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 01:05:57 PM
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This show started my life long obsession with Dolphins!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 01:08:05 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 03, 2013, 01:41:02 PM

Isn't that Tarzan one all from movies?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 03, 2013, 01:52:13 PM
I know I'm way behind, here, so I'll just comment.

Great selection of Bonanza photos! Thanks! I just ... barely ... remember Pernell Roberts as Adam, but we regularly watched Trapper John, M.D., on Sunday nights--though by then Gregory Harrison was the resident hunk. ...  ::)

Kent McCord? OMG! Thud!  ;D

Every once in a while I'll stumble on an Adam 12 episode on one of the nostalgia stations, and also an episode of Dragnet, and every once in a great while Officer Reed or Officer Malloy will make a brief appearance on Dragnet! (At least, I'm sure I saw Reed, once, so I'm assuming Malloy did, too.)

Which reminds me that I could never quite get used to Officer Bill Gannon as Col. Sherman Potter. ...  ;)  :D

Anyone who wants to see Martin Milner as a teenager, watch Life With Father (which is a wonderful, gently amusing old movie; I highly recommend it!)

Doug McClure was another real hunk.

The more old episodes of Wagon Train that I see, the more convinced I am that Robert Horton epitomized manliness. ...

George Chakiris, George Maharis. ... Both gorgeous. (I'm confused, though. Which one rented the gay porn? Either one, I would have gladly taken matters in hand for him, or whatever. ...  ::) )

And those "Georges" remind me of another "George" I always liked who left us too soon: Christopher George.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 03, 2013, 02:12:09 PM
This show [Flipper] started my life long obsession with Dolphins!

At the time I think I was more interested in Luke Halpin:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Luke_Halpin_publicity_photo.jpg)
(http://blogasnoruscom.ipage.com/mycomputer/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/1176691057_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 02:15:29 PM
Isn't that Tarzan one all from movies?


I don't know, it said it was TV.  But honestly I barely remember Tarzan on TV - although I know I watched it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 02:21:58 PM


And those "Georges" remind me of another "George" I always liked who left us too soon: Christopher George.  :(


I remember Christoper George (Rat Patrol right?) married to Linda Day George.  He died of a heart attack, so sad!


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 03, 2013, 02:22:17 PM
You know, I just got this horrible feeling. There are way too many pictures online of Luke Halpin than one
would think, seeing as how he didn't do anything of the sort of Flipper fame afterwards, and most of them
are shirtless and kinda sorta suggestive and the like and I get the feeling there are a lot of pedophiles who've
posted them. Maybe I shouldn't say that, but I don't see how it wouldn't at least cross one's mind if you
saw them all. Or maybe I've been watching too many Dr. Phil's lately.

This is an example of some of them:
(http://content7.flixster.com/photo/12/97/54/12975417_ori.jpg)(http://www.cpps90.com/Luke/images/16/166510ba.jpg)(http://content7.flixster.com/photo/14/10/52/14105217_ori.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 03, 2013, 02:26:42 PM
My favorite Tarzan was Mike Henry, the hairiest and hunkiest!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQVWvGSKHCI

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 03, 2013, 02:27:27 PM
George Chakiris, George Maharis. ... Both gorgeous. (I'm confused, though. Which one rented the gay porn? Either one, I would have gladly taken matters in hand for him, or whatever. ...  ::) )

George Maharis, I don't remember what George Chakiris was doing, probably the same thing!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 02:30:07 PM



Oh that kid would be a pedophiles dream!  :-\


My favourite Tarzan:


(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/JohnnyWeismuller_zps2217111b.jpg)



I still have nightmares about the Twilight Zone!


(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/twilight_zone1280x1024_zps6d4538a4.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 02:36:27 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/a829618b-3864-4888-9317-28f2f75fbc1c_zpsd717adeb.gif)

 ::)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 02:41:27 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/04cb44c4-310e-4014-9045-8de7f0c834c3_zpse0268cc1.jpg)


Was he ever on TV, let's just say yes!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 03, 2013, 02:43:29 PM
I like the later FLIPPER episodes, when Luke had matured into a teenager.  He and Brian Kelly were full of eye appeal.

Bud, played by Tommy Norden, used to irritate me because he was a simp and to boot, sounded like he was from Brooklyn and always pronounced Flipper as "Flippa!"
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 02:53:58 PM



FLIPPA!!  :D


(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/2603dc01-ecb0-4f93-b511-8067c31eea45_zps1c3c5182.jpg)


Nice pic of Roddy, he was in Twilight Zone and Night Gallery (another good show).

Those two shows had great guest stars, people who would go on to be quite famous.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 03, 2013, 03:00:04 PM
My brother is a big TZ fan.  For his birthday I gave him a "best of" the show DVD and it does have many of the best ones!  Some of my favorites on that DVD set are "The Invaders" with Agnes Moorehead and "Two" with Elizabeth Montgomery and Charles Bronson.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 03:08:14 PM
http://www.ranker.com/list/guest-stars-on-the-twilight-zone/general_crack?page=1

Check out this list!   WOW
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 03, 2013, 03:30:05 PM
I like the later FLIPPER episodes, when Luke had matured into a teenager.  He and Brian Kelly were full of eye appeal.

Brian Kelly used to appear on a game show quite frequently that I watched
when I'd get home from school. (You Don't Say.) I remember he had very
hairy and big arms. (He never wore a suit, just his same kind of Flipper shirt he
wore on the show.)

I looked it up and Luke Halpin is now 66!  Yikes!

So on Flipper he would've been 17 when it started in 1964, right?
Wonder what he looks like now?

***

Okay, I found a pic, but I don't know when it was actually taken. Growing, growing, grown.
(http://www.nndb.com/people/226/000067025/halp15-sized.jpg)(http://www.genesiscreations.biz/i/luke_halpin_picture02.jpg)(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BjA9HB5RzRc/TMUjeZPKA_I/AAAAAAAAFVo/rpEy5ugTz4A/s1600/Luke+Halpin1+(Medium).jpg)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 03, 2013, 03:35:24 PM
Bud, played by Tommy Norden, used to irritate me because he was a simp and to boot, sounded like he was from Brooklyn and always pronounced Flipper as "Flippa!"

I don't knnow where Tommy was born, but Luke was born in Queens!

Wasn't their last name Ricks?  Bud and Sandy Ricks.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 03:49:30 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/ricky-schroder-sliver-spoons-22515224-1110-1628_zps45a3d9d4.jpg)

He looks like Rick Schroder (Silver Spoons) in that first picture.  He has actually aged really well!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 03, 2013, 05:09:48 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/2603dc01-ecb0-4f93-b511-8067c31eea45_zps1c3c5182.jpg)


Nice pic of Roddy, he was in Twilight Zone and Night Gallery (another good show).

Those two shows had great guest stars, people who would go on to be quite famous.

Now, if that doesn't look like a gay couple in domestic mode! Oi!  :o
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 03, 2013, 05:13:26 PM
I don't know, it said it was TV.  But honestly I barely remember Tarzan on TV - although I know I watched it.

So did we. Ron Ely was Tarzan. And I remember the great Julie Harris doing a couple of guest spots, as a missionary.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 03, 2013, 05:21:16 PM
I looked it up and Luke Halpin is now 66!  Yikes!

So on Flipper he would've been 17 when it started in 1964, right?
Wonder what he looks like now?

***

Okay, I found a pic, but I don't know when it was actually taken. Growing, growing, grown.
(http://www.nndb.com/people/226/000067025/halp15-sized.jpg)(http://www.genesiscreations.biz/i/luke_halpin_picture02.jpg)(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BjA9HB5RzRc/TMUjeZPKA_I/AAAAAAAAFVo/rpEy5ugTz4A/s1600/Luke+Halpin1+(Medium).jpg)

That upper right black and white photo looks like maybe around 1980? Looks sort of Magnum P.I.-ish. That period anyway.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 06:41:26 PM
Now, if that doesn't look like a gay couple in domestic mode! Oi!  :o


(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/Bob_Keeshan_Hugh_Brannum_Captain_Kangaroo_1960_zps04eba80b.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 06:42:20 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/3thebeverlyhillbillies_zpsfbfcf51f.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/45dda021dcabf1867d51540d9ddf51a0_zpscf6aaa0f.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 06:43:22 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/batman60s_zpsa7e178e5.jpg)


(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/movies_batman_through_years_adam_west_1_zps2541a023.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 06:44:26 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/12wesubu_lg_zps92e575c5.jpg)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/3108328-1_zps5fa21a69.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 06:45:22 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/C31_zpsd6f2953b.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 03, 2013, 06:57:27 PM
"December Bride" with Spring Byington and Harry Morgan and "Our Miss Brooks" with Eve Arden remain two of my favorite TV classics.
Don't know who was gay in either one but someone  >:D here will know.
Both were well written(here and there) and beautifully acted.

Also, "My Little Margie", "The Life of Riley", were excellent and original to the form. (tv sitcom)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 03, 2013, 07:05:42 PM
"I Married Joan" was also pretty good and a great example of TV copying a hit formula (in this case "I Love Lucy").
Nothing new, of course.  The formula copy idea came from radio and, before that, vaudeville. And before that....well,the Greeks.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 03, 2013, 07:06:00 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/ricky-schroder-sliver-spoons-22515224-1110-1628_zps45a3d9d4.jpg)

Rick Schroder (Silver Spoons)

Well, here's another picture that might be considered a pedophile's dream.  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 07:16:12 PM

I guess for anyone that way inclined, they will see something bad, where as a normal person just sees a sweet little boy! :">


http://www.briansdriveintheater.com/edfury.html


Here would be a reason to have tuned into My Little Margie (I looked that up it looked like a cute show).   This Ed Fury guy was on that and several others.  I got a kick out of those muscle bound guys that popped up in movies and TV shows in the 50's.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 03, 2013, 07:31:52 PM
(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k463/dcfmod/1-4-1.jpg)

My favorite cartoon as a kid, in two different incarnations.

Top pic is "All New Super Friends".....Superman,  Wonder Woman, Batman & Robin, Aquaman, and in the center, their trainee heros, the Wonder Twins, who were shape-shifters.  (1976-1977)

The middle pic was the next season (1977-1978) "Challenge Of The Super Friends".   Heroes were added to make the cartoon similar to Justice League, and three "ethnic" heros were added to break up the "whiteness" of the show.  However, the ethnic heros were given names that matched their ethnicity, and not their powers.  The line up was (l to r) Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Flash (super speed) Green Lantern (power ring) Hawkman (flight and bird-like senses), Samurai (turns into wind, and becomes invisible), Black Vulcan (electricity), Apache Chief (grow to 50 feet tall) Robin & Batman.

The last pic is from the same series, the villains, The Legion of Doom.  (l to r) Lex Luthor, Brianiac (super android), Mr. Freeze (freeze ray gun), Giganta (grows up to 50 feet tall), Bizzaro (reverse Superman), Grodd (super intelligent gorilla), Cheetah (cat like reflexes), Sinestro (yellow power ring) Riddler, Black Manta (undersea villain), Toyman (uses toys/gadgets for crimes), Scarecrow (master of fear) and Solomon Grundy (zombie super villain)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 03, 2013, 07:33:06 PM
I never liked superhero cartoons.  They aggravated my inferiority complex.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: suelyblu on March 03, 2013, 07:36:49 PM
http://www.thehighchaparral.com/chara1d.htm


I always had the hots for this guy ?   ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 07:41:08 PM
I was just thinking we haven't talked about cartoons!  I was going to mention The Flintstones and the Jetsons!


But OMG all these superhero's, we can't forget them - but now reading the names it makes me think of The Big Bang.   My husband loved the old Hercules cartoon. I was more of an Under Dog type of gal!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 03, 2013, 07:45:52 PM
http://www.thehighchaparral.com/chara1d.htm


I always had the hots for this guy ?   ;D


I just had to go look him up, he looked so familiar!



Look at all the shows he was in (scan down):


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Darrow
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 03, 2013, 08:47:16 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/1620-6-25_zps9d36e92c.jpg)

http://trakt.tv/show/i-love-lucy/season/6/episode/25
boy, does that remind me of marilyn monroe's dress in all about eve
(http://annyas.com/screenshots/images/1950/all-about-eve-marilyn-monroe-02.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 03, 2013, 08:51:09 PM
Was anyone a fan of Gunsmoke, that show ran for 20 years!  :o

my father was, which irritated the hell out of me because it was on opposite star trek!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 03, 2013, 08:58:30 PM
This collage is great, except maybe for Alf being in it, lol.  I love the little touch
of putting the Have Gun, Will Travel business card in it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgvxu8QY01s
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: suelyblu on March 04, 2013, 05:18:34 AM
::) ;D
I just had to go look him up, he looked so familiar!



Look at all the shows he was in (scan down):


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Darrow

I only ever knew him from "The High Chaparral" ! At the time he seemed "dark and exotic" to me !! Plus ...I always wanted that suede jacket he always wore ! ::) ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 04, 2013, 05:57:54 AM
He was in so many, you probably saw him in something!  His jacket!!! :D :D


 :-* Oh Jack you said Star Trek, I was a big fan of the original show - and kind of a life long obsession with William Shatner!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 04, 2013, 07:20:30 AM
I guess for anyone that way inclined, they will see something bad, where as a normal person just sees a sweet little boy! :">

Too true. Sad, isn't it?  :(

Quote
Here would be a reason to have tuned into My Little Margie (I looked that up it looked like a cute show).   This Ed Fury guy was on that and several others.  I got a kick out of those muscle bound guys that popped up in movies and TV shows in the 50's.

I believe I read somewhere that Ed Fury got his start modeling for the physique magazines that were soft-core gay porn "back in the day."

I remember watching My Little Margie in reruns. Also Pete and Gladys.  ;D

And, oh, yes, we watched The High Chaparral. It aired on Friday nights.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 04, 2013, 07:25:46 AM
I was just thinking we haven't talked about cartoons!  I was going to mention The Flintstones and the Jetsons!

The Flintstones had some great "guest stars." Remember "Stoney Curtis" and "Ann-Margrock"?  ;D

Quote
But OMG all these superhero's, we can't forget them - but now reading the names it makes me think of The Big Bang.   My husband loved the old Hercules cartoon. I was more of an Under Dog type of gal!  :D

Two words: Mighty Mouse.  ;D

I remember once Mighty Mouse got mentioned in an episode of NCIS: LA. Kensi and Sam had to enter a suspect's home. He was gone, but there was a Mighty Mouse cartoon playing on the TV. Kensi said something about not understanding Mighty Mouse, and Sam--big, uber-muscled LL Cool J--replied, "It's the Mouse."  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 04, 2013, 07:28:29 AM
"I Married Joan" was also pretty good and a great example of TV copying a hit formula (in this case "I Love Lucy").
Nothing new, of course.  The formula copy idea came from radio and, before that, vaudeville. And before that....well,the Greeks.

I've seen a few episodes of Burns and Allen. I wish I had been around "back then." Gracie Allen was really funny.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 04, 2013, 11:23:34 AM
gay porn, LL Cool J and mighty mouse, where do I start?  :D


The Flintstone's and all their guest stars, what a hoot!  I have to post some pictures, and remember The Way Outs?  They were like The Beatles!  :D


I never saw Burns and Allen either, all I can think about when I read about them is that he outlived her by about half a life time.  Crazy!


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 04, 2013, 12:22:39 PM
The Flintstone's and all their guest stars, what a hoot!  I have to post some pictures, and remember The Way Outs?  They were like The Beatles!  :D

And of course we all know The Flintstones was based on The Honeymooners, with Fred and Wilma Flintstone as a "modern stone-age" suburban Ralph and Alice Kramden.

I'd forgotten about the Way Outs.  ;D  Somewhere I read an opinion that The Flintstones "jumped the shark" when they brought in the Great Gazoo (voiced by Harvey Korman!). I don't necessarily agree. I was a kid. I liked it all.  ;D

Barney Rubble even sounded sort of like Ed Norton.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 04, 2013, 12:28:48 PM
Oh yea they were definitely like the Honeymooners, very much so.

I liked Kazoo as well!   They did change the voices of the characters at one point though didn't they, I seem to remember that bugging me!   :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 04, 2013, 12:34:08 PM
Did we mention Hazel yet?


(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/booth-as-hazel_zps0333a348.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 04, 2013, 12:37:51 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/star_trek_the_original_series_zpseeb4bbd4.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 04, 2013, 12:39:23 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/page0_blog_entry12931-crockett-album_zpsfdaa1c9a.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 04, 2013, 03:20:59 PM
Oh yeah, I thought that Fess Parker was pretty hot, too!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 04, 2013, 04:22:34 PM
Should we sing the theme song together?   :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 04, 2013, 04:27:53 PM
I've seen a few episodes of Burns and Allen. I wish I had been around "back then." Gracie Allen was really funny.  :)

LOL, well in a feeble attempt to defend my dotage, let it be known that I did not see any of these during the original runs either.  :)
A local independent TV station used to run them early afternoons and on Saturday when I was a kid. 
It was, I admit, a "while ago" but I am pretty sure we had already discovered fire.

Burns and Allen was excellent and Gracie Allen was a genius.  The best part of the show was the prologue and epilogue which featured George and Gracie basically performing their old vaudeville act. 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 04, 2013, 04:34:51 PM
 :D  I know it is like saying you have seen the Wizard of Oz (which I did last night)  but I don't mean I saw it when it first came out in theatres!


(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/Gracie-Allen-with-husband-George-Burns-1957_zpsefe170d2.jpg)


And I guess they were on radio as well, before the TV show!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: suelyblu on March 04, 2013, 04:49:16 PM
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=early+pictures+from+lassie+tv+series&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=WTI1UemdLdGA0AWL1oCoDA&ved=0CDgQsAQ&biw=1366&bih=667


The early TV series of "Lassie" ! I drove my Mom crazy for a dog like this !!! :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 04, 2013, 04:57:23 PM
Oh yea they were definitely like the Honeymooners, very much so.

I liked Kazoo as well!   They did change the voices of the characters at one point though didn't they, I seem to remember that bugging me!   :D

Without doing any research to check. ... I'm sure I remember that Betty Rubble got a new voice. I think she was first voiced by the incomparable Bea Benaderet (who played neighbor Blanche on Burns and Allen and then went to play Cousin Pearl Bodine [Jethro's mother] on The Beverly Hillbillies and to star as Kate Bradely on Petticoat Junction); she probably just got too busy to stay with the cartoon!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 04, 2013, 05:02:34 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/page0_blog_entry12931-crockett-album_zpsfdaa1c9a.jpg)

I wasn't here yet ::) for the real Davy Crockett craze, though I saw all the movies in rerun on the Disney program. But Fess in his other frontiersman persona, Daniel Boone, was my hero as a kid in the Sixties. I was thrilled to death when Daniel Boone was finally released on video before Fess passed. One of our local nostalgia channels is running Daniel Boone now, but it's on at 9:00 on weekday mornings, and I gotta work. ...  :(

I can sing the Daniel Boone theme song, too!  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: suelyblu on March 04, 2013, 05:05:43 PM
http://www.ioffer.com/i/circus-boy-mickey-the-monkees-dolenz-noah-beery-189602160



"Circus Boy " . Every episode wrung the tears out of you !!! :D



Sorry....but when I do find pictures of these programs.....I have to post the whole kit and caboodle !!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 04, 2013, 05:12:22 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flintstones


Okay here is some info on the voices on The Flintstones, now I am really confused.


As much as I loved Lassie (and wanted a collie) I loved Littlest Hobo more.  I still watch that one in re-runs.  He is a shepard and his real name was London (well there was probably more than one) anyway I loved that dog!  There was another one about a St. Bernard called George as well, really loved him as well.  The animal shows really tug at the heart strings.


 :D  And I am dying laughing here at Mickey Dolenz, I was a big Monkees fan for sure.


Do you have a PVR Jeff, they are great and only a few dollars a month, I tape everything!






Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 04, 2013, 05:15:24 PM
I wasn't here yet ::) for the real Davy Crockett craze,

:D
Must admit I was around for the original Davy Crockett tv show.
I have a pic of me, somewhere, in my "coon skin cap" along with the official Davy Crockett mug and dinner plate.
If I can find it, I definitely will NOT post.  ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 04, 2013, 05:17:29 PM
 :D  My son lives in Northern Ontario, I think he has been up there too long.  He often wears a animal fur hat!   He wears moccasins and the whole bit - it is a good look if you can pull it off. 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 04, 2013, 05:45:53 PM
Did we mention Hazel yet?


(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/booth-as-hazel_zps0333a348.jpg)


I LOVE "Hazel" and Shirley Booth!  She won Emmys for the first two seasons!

I was re-watching this DVD (season 1) last weekend, in fact!  Seasons 1-4 are available on DVD and hopefully season 5 (the last one) will become available soon!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 04, 2013, 05:47:39 PM
And speaking of Hazel, those of you who love the show and the superb Ms. Booth, watch this clip--it's hysterical!

Hazel reviews Les Miserables - YouTube

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7jeDbucjFo
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: suelyblu on March 04, 2013, 06:21:44 PM
http://www.google.co.uk/webhp?source=search_app#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=pictures+of+the+lone+ranger+and+tonto&oq=stills+from+the+lone+ranger+and+&gs_l=hp.1.0.0i22.3710.15258.1.17434.16.16.0.0.0.0.266.1945.2j13j1.16.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.5.psy-ab.3helUM3xi1k&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bvm=bv.43148975,d.d2k&fp=207c2cbbd37f5283&biw=1366&bih=667

Never missed an episode of this when I was a kid ! Later on when I learned that the guy who played Tonto was a real Native   American and his name was Jay Silverheels.....I was agog !!!


What was the intro ?? "With a fiery horse , the speed of light ..... something.....something and a hearty hi yo silver !" My memory fails me !!!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 04, 2013, 06:30:19 PM
And speaking of Hazel, those of you who love the show and the superb Ms. Booth, watch this clip--it's hysterical!

Hazel reviews Les Miserables - YouTube

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7jeDbucjFo

Oh MY GOD!  :D  Okay Les Mis is a my favourite musical of all time and I have never heard it described like that.   I haven't seen Hazel since I was a kid, it is so strange that it has always stuck in my head.  Now I know why, she is a riot.......and his face!!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 04, 2013, 06:35:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxIuIxqo2So


Is this the one (Lone Ranger)?


 ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 04, 2013, 06:43:59 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/8371edfc57a45042f6953f4ee4206af1_zps84642639.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: suelyblu on March 04, 2013, 06:49:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxIuIxqo2So


Is this the one (Lone Ranger)?


 ;D

Yup ! That's the very one ! Thanks.

Did Clayton Moore who plays the Lone Ranger.......ever do anything else.....or Jay Silverheels if it comes to that?. I could check it out on the net ....but it will give somebody else something to do !!!!! ;) ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: suelyblu on March 04, 2013, 06:51:08 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/8371edfc57a45042f6953f4ee4206af1_zps84642639.jpg)


Oh !  :-\ Yummy.....I think  :-\


 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 04, 2013, 06:52:04 PM
http://pinterest.com/rarntgo/those-were-the-days/


Here is a neat site, it has shows and other things......and that is where I got that tasty TV dinner!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 04, 2013, 08:17:26 PM
Did Clayton Moore who plays the Lone Ranger.......ever do anything else.....or Jay Silverheels if it comes to that?. I could check it out on the net ....but it will give somebody else something to do !!!!! ;) ;D

Well, afterward, Clayton Moore made a career of appearing as the Long Ranger. Things got very nasty when the producers of the 1980 flop movie The Legend of the Lone Ranger got an injunction to stop him making appearances as TLR because, they said, they were afraid he would somehow damage their movie.  ::)

I know of at least one episode from the first season of Daniel Boone where Jay Silverheels appeared as (what else?) an Indian chief.

Easy enough to look them both up at IMDb.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 04, 2013, 08:21:01 PM
Do you have a PVR Jeff, they are great and only a few dollars a month, I tape everything!

A what?  ;D

By now it must be well more than twenty years since I last recorded anything. Last time I recorded something, people still used videotape.  ;D

No, I stopped recording stuff when I realized I was accumulating piles and piles of recordings and I never found the time to watch any of them.  :-\ 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 04, 2013, 08:28:22 PM
I have a pic of me, somewhere, in my "coon skin cap" along with the official Davy Crockett mug and dinner plate.

I wonder if it was the same outfit that brought out a similar "official" Daniel Boone set? I've seen the Daniel Boone dinner set on eBay. It included a plate, a mug, and a bowl. The plate has a picture of Daniel and Mingo; I managed to buy one of those a few years ago. The bowl had a picture of Daniel in the center, and I'm not really sure about the mug. I've only seen one picture of the full set, and it appears that maybe Yadkin was on the mug.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 04, 2013, 08:31:28 PM
A what?  ;D

By now it must be well more than twenty years since I last recorded anything. Last time I recorded something, people still used videotape.  ;D

No, I stopped recording stuff when I realized I was accumulating piles and piles of recordings and I never found the time to watch any of them.  :-\ 

Well I did too and then you were stuck with all those stupid VHS tapes.  This is great because they are stored on the TV, you record shows that are on at a time when you can't see them.  Or shows that are on when maybe you are watching something else, or you just don't have time to watch.

And if you get a bunch on there and you don't feel you will ever get to them.......you just hit delete!   ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 04, 2013, 08:43:18 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 04, 2013, 08:45:43 PM
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Any guesses on these two?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 04, 2013, 08:48:19 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: kathy on March 04, 2013, 08:59:12 PM
Not bad and the show looks like a great premise!

And since the loin cloth was started! :D

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/tarzan1280x1024_zps0cfe3fba.jpg)


I always thought Johnny Weissmuller was the best Tarzan in the movies, especially the early (pre-code and other) ones.  When I was young I saw them all on TV and I loved them; he was my favorite, and so handsome.  IMO he seemed to capture the character so well, even though MGM did not stress the Lord Greystoke identity. 
Lex Barker and Gordon Scott were very good too; they had handsome men in those days to fit the parts.
 
One of my older brothers was absolutely crazy about Tarzan; one of my uncles had first editions of the Edgar Rice Burroughs' novels.  I remember being small and looking at beautiful illustrations in those books.   

kathy    :)
p.s.  the other pic of Johnny W. is with George O'Brien.  He started in the silents ("Sunrise") is such a classic and many other famous ones.  Went on to talkies in popular horse westerns; in the late '40's was in two of John Ford's films (Mr. Ford directed one of George's classic silents - "The Iron Horse" I think).  Even in the late '40's films he still was handsome and such a good actor. 

When you think of the greats in "Fort Apache" and "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon" (e.g. Duke, Hank Fonda, V. MacLaglen, etc.) George fit in with them like a glove.  What good films!  My mom loved -  and I mean love(s) - Duke Wayne forever.  Wow, all those times going to the drive-in to see him.  My daddy of course always liked him a lot, but he sure knew it was Duke for my mother.   
What happy memories - going to the drive-in to see re-releases (and others, like The Searchers) ;), and sometimes ending up in the back row; it was so packed.  I was a child when King Kong was re-released and before it went on TV (if I remember correctly).  The drive in was so packed they had to turn cars away.  Boy, was it scary... 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: kathy on March 04, 2013, 09:09:47 PM
Oh!  I can't go w/o mentioning my ever-favorite TV show Gunsmoke.  What a series - 20 years on TV.  It started off as a half-hour show and then went to an hour, first on Sat. nights (I was so young) then on Mon.nights.  I just loved it. :-*

On the Encore Western channel, they show the classic 1/2 hr. shows (called "Marshal Dillon") followed by an hour episode.  Oh, I loved that Matt Dillon; James Arness was so handsome.  And Dennis Weaver as Chester!  IMO those with Chester were the best.   
I never really took to Ken Curtis as Festus.  But I still watched Gunsmoke 'til its 20th year.

kathy     
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 04, 2013, 09:40:26 PM
I've seen a few episodes of Burns and Allen. I wish I had been around "back then." Gracie Allen was really funny.  :)
i loved I MARRIED JOAN.  it looks pretty simple minded now, but they worked very well together, and gracie allen had the best comedic timing i have ever seen even to this day...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 04, 2013, 09:44:23 PM
Oh yeah, I thought that Fess Parker was pretty hot, too!
me too, and i had me a real coonskin cap too.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 04, 2013, 09:56:10 PM
i think johnny weismuller and johhny sheffield may have printed themselves on my juvenile libido.  i had to wait until the late 60's to have hair long enough to trail behinf me under water and flip back when i surfaced, and sheffield may have been young, but he was a budding hottie, as indeed he grew up to be.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 05, 2013, 05:40:46 AM
Kathy and Jack you are making me nostalgic for Tarzan!  :D  I use to say my Dad could swim like Johnny, in one end of the pool and wouldn't come up until he got to the other end (like a fish) me I sink like a rock.

And Gunsmoke, I know a few people with the DVD's maybe I should try and pick up some seasons. I know they had an anniversary edition that kind of focused on the episodes with the guest stars who went on to further fame, those would be neat to watch.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 05, 2013, 07:38:22 AM
And Gunsmoke, I know a few people with the DVD's maybe I should try and pick up some seasons. I know they had an anniversary edition that kind of focused on the episodes with the guest stars who went on to further fame, those would be neat to watch.

The whole series is available on DVD, but it ain't cheap if you want to collect it.

Anybody else watch Laredo? Lord 'a' mercy, I thought Peter Browne was handsome!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 05, 2013, 07:41:24 AM
I just thought of another one Robert Reed.

Another one lost to AIDS.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 05, 2013, 01:00:36 PM
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"We had dinners then."

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 05, 2013, 01:26:34 PM

I LOVE "Hazel" and Shirley Booth!  She won Emmys for the first two seasons!

I was re-watching this DVD (season 1) last weekend, in fact!  Seasons 1-4 are available on DVD and hopefully season 5 (the last one) will become available soon!

I, too, love Hazel.  I hadn't seen any Hazel's since they went off the air in 1966. So it was a real treat
when the first season came out on dvd a few years ago. I'd love to get the rest, but...

They have aired it on the Antenna-tv station, but when they were doing it every day I didn't watch
because I wanted to see them on dvd which is optimal.  I finally gave in and watched the last season
when they switched networks--and families! But, except for a few episodes, it's not a great season.

I believe I was the same age as the actor who played "Sport." Bobby Buntrock. Although I did not
really recognize it as such at the time, when I think back on it, I had a sizable crush on that boy!

(http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/766/Hazel18.jpg)

Thinking about it, all my crushes I've mentioned when I was around ten were blond boys!
Bobby Buntrock, Luke Halpin, Jay North, Doug McClure!  Lol!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 05, 2013, 01:36:46 PM


Wow, Hazel was hugly popular when it premiered!

The TOP TEN Shows of 1961-1962 season.

1.  Wagon Train
2.  Bonanza
3.  Gunsmoke
4.  Hazel
5.  Perry Mason
6.  The Red Skelton Show
7.  The Andy Griffith Show
8.  Make Room for Daddy
9.  Dr. Kildare
10. Candid Camera

Even though it was on for 20 years, I never liked Gunsmoke.
I've never analyzed why, but I never liked that show. (?)
I read Dr. Kildare's first season is coming out on dvd. That
was on too late for me to stay up and see, but was so
popular that I had an official "Dr. Kildare" shirt I remember
wearing to school. (It was doctor design influence.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 05, 2013, 01:45:01 PM
Kathy and Jack you are making me nostalgic for Tarzan!

You should never have brought up Tarzan because it's only classic TV if you're talking
about the Ron Ely tv series in the 60's! And nobody has yet! Lol!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 05, 2013, 01:53:42 PM

This thread is obviously interesting, but does anyone else find it also a bit overwhelming?
Veering from one thing to an opposite thing on a whim and then wanting to write a dozen
posts all at once? That might get old or repetitive.

Maybe we should have one genre a week, like westerns, sitcoms, sci-fi, game shows or the like.
Or one theme, like movie stars making guest appearances on series, or shows we love who had
gay actors on them (!) or favorite holiday episodes or the like.  Something like the topic of the
week used to be.

Just some ideas thrown out there. The thread is new and enjoyable, but I fear it will become
too overwhelming. So many posts have gone by all ready that I wanted to answer or talk
about and if that happens you don't really feel like going back.

ALSO:  Can the thread be moved to the TV & MUSIC section now where it's right in the line of sight!
(Hey another theme: Shows with great/favorite theme songs.)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 05, 2013, 03:38:33 PM
I agree with you 100 percent, lets do that!


Actually I am in back in school right now and I have just been hit with a shit load of assignments, so Lyle baby, take the wheel........please!!!!   :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 05, 2013, 05:11:19 PM
If we do this then can we include shows from the 1980s, too?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 05, 2013, 05:30:12 PM
You should never have brought up Tarzan because it's only classic TV if you're talking
about the Ron Ely tv series in the 60's! And nobody has yet! Lol!

I mentioned it three days ago.  ::)

 ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 05, 2013, 05:33:19 PM
Yes you did, Jeff.  I'll vouch for you. 

Oh, Ron Ely!  Of course Tarzan is my fantasy dream figure anyway.

Fridays were so stressful as I had Ron on NBC and at the same time Robert Conrad and Ross Martin on CBS!

OK someone who can post, post a picture of that divine Wild Wild West credit sequence with the boot, etc.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 05, 2013, 05:36:58 PM
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I remember when Gloria Swanson guest starred on The Beverly Hillbillies. The Clampetts wanted to make a silent movie. When the head of the studio they owned protested, Mr. Drysdale said he didn't care if the Clampetts wanted to make a movie without film.  ;D The film had its world premiere at the Bijoux Theater in Bugtussel.  ;D

And I loved Swanson TV Dinners when I was a kid, loved them because they were different and therefore a treat, as was a trip to McDonald's back in those days. When I was a small boy my mother didn't have a job outside the home, so ordinarily we had a home-cooked dinner every night. So on the rare occasions when we got to eat out of little aluminum trays, I loved it! (I liked the chopped steak and gravy best.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 05, 2013, 05:38:49 PM
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Buffy and Jodie!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 05, 2013, 05:43:27 PM
Yes you did, Jeff.  I'll vouch for you.

Thank you!  :) 

Quote
Oh, Ron Ely!  Of course Tarzan is my fantasy dream figure anyway.

Fridays were so stressful as I had Ron on NBC and at the same time Robert Conrad and Ross Martin on CBS!

I guess that explains why we didn't watch Wild, Wild West at my house when I was a kid; we were watching Tarzan.  :-\

It might also be that the local TV station was an NBC affilate, and so the reception of NBC was better than the reception of CBS.  :D

Seeing as how all this was before cable, everyone we knew had an antenna on the roof, and ours was hooked up to a device we called a 'tenna-rotor, to turn the antenna for better reception!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 05, 2013, 05:45:28 PM
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How odd. I recognized "Uncle Martin" right away, but I didn't think that looked like Bill Bixby. Must be the camera angle.  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 05, 2013, 05:49:21 PM
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OK, I give up. I live in a cave. Who's that with Roddy McDowell? I'm sure I should know who he is, but I just don't recognize him.  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 05, 2013, 05:53:46 PM
I think it's Tab Hunter.

Roddy (and Bill in the picture before that) sure got better looking as they got older (and had longer hair)!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 05, 2013, 05:57:46 PM
I remember when Gloria Swanson guest starred on The Beverly Hillbillies. The Clampetts wanted to make a silent movie. When the head of the studio they owned protested, Mr. Drysdale said he didn't care if the Clampetts wanted to make a movie without film.  ;D The film had its world premiere at the Bijoux Theater in Bugtussel.  ;D

And I loved Swanson TV Dinners when I was a kid, loved them because they were different and therefore a treat, as was a trip to McDonald's back in those days. When I was a small boy my mother didn't have a job outside the home, so ordinarily we had a home-cooked dinner every night. So on the rare occasions when we got to eat out of little aluminum trays, I loved it! (I liked the chopped steak and gravy best.)


Oh, yeah!  I loved getting to have a TV dinner whenever Mama and Daddy were going out to a party or something!  It was a special treat! 

I love that episode of HILLBILLIES.  I remember how Granny was always bragging how everyone used to say that she looked like Gloria Swanson!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 05, 2013, 06:00:48 PM

Seeing as how all this was before cable, everyone we knew had an antenna on the roof, and ours was hooked up to a device we called a 'tenna-rotor, to turn the antenna for better reception!  :D


We got cable TV in our town in 1965, when I was six!  I think it was maybe ten channels but boy, did we think it was neat!

We got our first color TV complete with remote control in 1969.  A big ol' Zenith.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 05, 2013, 06:35:12 PM
I think it's Tab Hunter.

Roddy (and Bill in the picture before that) sure got better looking as they got older (and had longer hair)!

Speaking of Tab Hunter, yes it is him in the pic, want to see something fun?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJzsryffz5s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJzsryffz5s)
Watch all the way through and you will get links to others.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 05, 2013, 08:55:30 PM
Speaking of Tab Hunter, yes it is him in the pic.

Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 05, 2013, 09:01:24 PM
We got our first color TV complete with remote control in 1969.  A big ol' Zenith.

I don't remember what year we got our first color TV, but I'm sure it was some time in the late Sixties. But that's what we got, a big ol' Zenith console set. It had a real wood cabinet, too. :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 05, 2013, 09:04:23 PM
Real wood is always preferable. 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 06, 2013, 07:19:34 AM
Real wood is always preferable. 

Wood. Not woodie. ...  ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 06, 2013, 10:05:31 AM
Wood. Not woodie. ...  ;)
Oh.
Well, either way, the preference still applies.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 06, 2013, 10:28:57 AM
Oh.
Well, either way, the preference still applies.  ;D

 ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 06, 2013, 12:09:33 PM
Seeing as how all this was before cable, everyone we knew had an antenna on the roof, and ours was hooked up to a device we called a 'tenna-rotor, to turn the antenna for better reception!  :D

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 06, 2013, 12:22:38 PM

As for my query about narrowing the focus each week, let's hear what some
other posters think about it first.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 06, 2013, 12:30:02 PM

I'm curious about what shows people might have liked, but were only
on one season or less. The one that gets me that was cancelled after
one season is The Time Tunnel. If only--at least one more season!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 06, 2013, 12:40:31 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 06, 2013, 12:49:04 PM


Oh wow strangely enough I remember that one!


I don't know about one season or less, but the original Star Trek didn't run long and look at the impact that little show had.  I mean it is unreal when you think of it.


The series was produced from 1966-67 by Desilu Productions, and by Paramount Television from 1968-69. Star Trek aired on NBC from September 8, 1966 to June 3, 1969.[2] Although this television series had the title of Star Trek, it later acquired the retronym of Star Trek: The Original Series (Star Trek: TOS or TOS) to distinguish the show within the media franchise that it began. Star Trek's Nielsen ratings while on NBC were low, and the network canceled it after three seasons and 79 episodes. Nevertheless, the show had a major influence on popular culture and it became a cult classic in broadcast syndication during the 1970s. The show eventually spawned a franchise, consisting of five additional television series, 12 theatrical films, and numerous books, games, and other products.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 06, 2013, 12:52:38 PM
here's some unpleasant news that i think belongs here...
many of you may have heard already that valerie harper, rhoda morgenstern on the MTM show and later on her spinoff, RHODA, has been diagnosed with a fatal brain cancer, and has very little time left with us.  she has had a long life, but cancer is the way most of us would prefer not to die.

farewell rhoda, bon voyage valerie...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 06, 2013, 12:56:09 PM
WHAT I hadn't heard a thing!!   I am going to look it up right now!   :'( :'(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 06, 2013, 01:03:55 PM
WHAT I hadn't heard a thing!!   I am going to look it up right now!   :'( :'(

Me neither. I'm very sorry to hear that.  :'(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 06, 2013, 01:06:33 PM
I'm curious about what shows people might have liked, but were only
on one season or less. The one that gets me that was cancelled after
one season is The Time Tunnel. If only--at least one more season!

While we didn't watch it, I remember The Time Tunnel. I didn't realize it lasted only one season.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 06, 2013, 01:14:48 PM
As for my query about narrowing the focus each week, let's hear what some
other posters think about it first.

I should study on this one a little more. My initial impulse is No, but I come from a place where discussion is aloud to be a little more free-wheeling, to follow its own path, than it is here.  ::)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 06, 2013, 01:16:05 PM
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20679526,00.html


Just went to the People site, poor Valerie Harper!


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MTM show was a real favourite of mine (and of course Rhoda).  I hadn't gotten around to mentioning the show yet, just because it started in 1970.   I tell you at this rate Cloris Leachman will out live Mary and Valerie and she was the oldest.




It is beyond sad and even reading that article, she is still thinking of others, what an amazing woman!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 06, 2013, 04:55:30 PM

That's pretty sad news concerning Valerie Harper. A few of us get together each week
and watch several things. We went through different tv series from end to end. We
finished MTM a year ago and someone suggested we do Rhoda. I had not seen any
Rhoda's when it aired, so I didn't mind the choice. Last gathering we saw an episode
with Vivian Vance and David White (Bewitched) and it was great. I keep forgetting the
actors and actresses I still see on their old shows are a lot older than I think they are.
She is 73, as unbelievable as that might seem.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 06, 2013, 05:01:15 PM

Gary,

Did you see her playing Tallulah Bankhead on Broadway last year?
I don't recall the name of that show.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 06, 2013, 05:31:47 PM
LOOPED, Lyle.

I just missed this in tryouts at the Pasadena Playhouse in 2008.  Had the BBM showing been a week earlier I would have been in L.A. and tried to go see it.  I bet Valerie was marvelous.  I was hoping she'd tour with it but that is out of the question now.

So damn sad.  I just finished her autobiography last week.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 06, 2013, 07:42:26 PM
My daughter in law read her autobiography, she was going to lend it to me.   Remember she did that other show (after Rhoda) Valerie, then they let her go for some reason and had Sandy Duncan come in and renamed it the Hogan Family.  I see she has had a tony nomination, has been nominated and won emmy's and some golden globe nominations and a win.  Very talented lady and by all accounts a really nice person.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 06, 2013, 08:13:43 PM
Gary,

Did you see her playing Tallulah Bankhead on Broadway last year?
I don't recall the name of that show.

yes, as Mark posted,"Looped" and yes we saw it.  Pretty bad play but very nice performance from Ms. Harper.  She really did not capture Bankhead but, as always, her comic timing and delivery was excellent.
A better example was her performance in "Tale of the Allergist's Wife".  She replaced Linda Lavin on Broadway and took it on tour.  She was, quite simply, magnificent. 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: kathy on March 06, 2013, 10:03:45 PM
Kathy and Jack you are making me nostalgic for Tarzan!  :D  I use to say my Dad could swim like Johnny, in one end of the pool and wouldn't come up until he got to the other end (like a fish) me I sink like a rock.

And Gunsmoke, I know a few people with the DVD's maybe I should try and pick up some seasons. I know they had an anniversary edition that kind of focused on the episodes with the guest stars who went on to further fame, those would be neat to watch.


bubba, I'm so glad we made you remember both with nostalgia. Always thought Johnny was so handsome and wow what a swimmer's body he had when he was young!   I realized after I posted about Tarzan that I discussed the films and the thread is Classic TV!   Anyway, I loved Tarzan.

As for Gunsmoke, I just loved it.  Yes, there are DVDs of the series.  The first one is hard to get 'cuz Duke Wayne introduces it; my brother has it and will never part with it.  There are DVDs of the other seasons too (with at least four episodes on it) and I believe there are collections of DVDs together.  The stories are just great (both the 1/2 hour ones and hour ones).
The 50th Anniversary edition is out and is pricey but I'd love to get it.  I've tried to collect each season but haven't gotten there yet.  I really want all the ones with Chester; Dennis Weaver left the show in 1964 (darn!).  

It is such a wonderful treat to see those classic episodes; I'd love to have all of them.  I think Jim Arness' Matt Dillon is the best TV marshal I've ever seen.   Can you imagine any TV show lasting 20 years now - no way.

kathy    :)  
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 07, 2013, 05:45:28 AM
I was going to do a post about that, here is a list unreal:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest-running_United_States_television_series


WOW !
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 07, 2013, 12:06:52 PM
If Hee-Haw could run for twenty-four years,
The Time Tunnel could have lasted two!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 07, 2013, 12:14:07 PM
I'm curious about what shows people might have liked, but were only
on one season or less. The one that gets me that was cancelled after
one season is The Time Tunnel. If only--at least one more season!



Here are ones that immediately come to mind:

HE & SHE, THE PRUITTS OF SOUTHAMPTON/THE PHYLLIS DILLER SHOW, and MY WORLD AND WELCOME TO IT.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 07, 2013, 12:46:50 PM

Here are ones that immediately come to mind:

HE & SHE, THE PRUITTS OF SOUTHAMPTON/THE PHYLLIS DILLER SHOW, and MY WORLD AND WELCOME TO IT.

Got canceled and then won an Emmy. Go figure.

I was just an adolescent, but I loved that show. It was my introduction to the wonderful world of James Thurber.

If Hee-Haw could run for twenty-four years, The Time Tunnel could have lasted two!

Don't overestimate the average American TV viewer--or network executive. See above re: My World and Welcome to It.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bentgyro on March 07, 2013, 12:47:30 PM
The Travels of Jaime McPheeters?
Sugarfoot?

My mother always thought that Johnny was the best Tarzan.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 07, 2013, 01:06:13 PM
Coronation Street - 50 plus years and I am still watching it.  Don't know when I started, but I have watched people actually grow up on the show.   I like that,  not like some North American shows, where one day the kid is a toddler and then the next minute he is graduating High School (played by another actor obviously).
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 07, 2013, 06:48:55 PM
Don't know when I started, but I have watched people actually grow up on the show.
I like that,  not like some North American shows, where one day the kid is a toddler and
then the next minute he is graduating High School (played by another actor obviously).

Not in the case of Doogie Howser!   :D

That's after the eighties, but I have to mention...I kept an old tv guide because it had a Lucy
Christmas themed thing in it I wantd to save and so I put it in with the Christmas decorations.
I was looking at it this year and there's a cover story about Doogie Howser (Neil Patrick Harris)
with the completely interesting title that tells us we'll find out about what kind of girls he likes
and if he's dating yet.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 07, 2013, 06:58:42 PM

Here's the cover..."but, ooh, those hollywood girls!" LOL!

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51UA-esgwAL._SL500_SS500_.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 07, 2013, 07:28:00 PM
OMG I thought I was the only one who saved old TV Guide's, I actually subscribed for years  (I kind of miss it).   I watched Doogie faithfully, I am still a big fan of NPH, he's great.


I am not sure if you saw the Oprah interview with David and Neil, but it was very interesting.   Neil dated women for years, and to quote him it was "good times".   He had sex with them and was attracted to them (to quote him) but it never quite clicked the way it should have.


And of course now he has David (and the kids) and seems very happy.   David also admitted to dating women, lots and lots of them. Sounded like he was quite a womanizer at some point.   I think he actually has 2 other children other than the 2 he has with Neil.

So technically Niel was not lying back then, he did see girls!  He was just adorable, he still is!  ;D



http://www.imdb.com/list/ClwkBTwU5ZQ/


Kind of neat, might have to move the link someplace else though!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: kathy on March 07, 2013, 08:27:37 PM
I was going to do a post about that, here is a list unreal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest-running_United_States_television_series

WOW !

What a list; thanks bubba!  I'm so glad that when the list comes to Gunsmoke for 20 yrs., there is a little reference number [89] next to it.  When you go to it, an explanation comes up which tells all about its place as the longest-running prime time drama.   So interesting. 

kathy
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 08, 2013, 10:39:43 AM

 Is Law & Order considered a primetime drama?
That was on for twenty years.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 08, 2013, 10:50:15 AM
So technically Niel was not lying back then, he did see girls!

Posters have gone over this topic many times in the Gay etc. Experience section.

So, for example, was he lying to himself?  Was he pleasing society or the dozens of
interviewers who always ask little child actors: do you have a girlfriend? Would either
of them have done what they did if societal pressures were at play? Would you expect an
actor to diss their fanbase if they really did not like it--oh, I hated dating women--I doubt
it. It's often complicated and not so straight forward. Pun intended. Obviously, they didn't
like it all that much in the final analysis or they wouldn't be together today. Etc. etc. etc.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 08, 2013, 11:01:16 AM
OMG I thought I was the only one who saved old TV Guide's

There are a great deal of serious collector's out there. Some have made it a goal not only to
collect every tv guide ever issued, but every regional edition of every one! Now that's serious.
I do miss the old format--who ever thought that icon would go away?

I've seen some online sites where they sell old TV Guides. Some people give them as gifts to
those who have everything---like finding the edition for the week you were born or an anniversary
or the like.

At one time I collected over two years of them, but in my small apartment where I lived at the
time it was just too much--so I just kept the covers!  Ooops.  I have kept only a few over the years,
has anyone else?  I have one of The Monkees, Laugh-In, the one I posted above, an X-Files one that
I have no idea why I kept that one, but I liked the design of it, and several of the Fall Preview Issues.
If Time TUnnel had been on the cover I'd have kept that one, too, heh!

Trivia question: Who has appeared on the cover of TV Guide more than anyone else?
(According to my TV Guide: Fifty Years of Television book.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 08, 2013, 11:24:31 AM
Merchandising for TV shows is not at all what it is today, but there was some.
Does anyone have any old tv-themed memorabilia from these classic tv shows?
I always loved board games, but there wasn't many people to play them with
when I was growing up.

The earliest TV related thing I can remember having is this game:
(http://s.ecrater.com/stores/80689/4b75a2bdebc4b_80689n.jpg)

I wish I still had it. I still have The Monkees board game.
(http://media.reporternews.com/media/img/photos/2011/12/13/620111213121147003_t607.JPG)

Frankly, though, most of the board games from tv series are terrible and
uninteresting games to actually play. The Monkees game is ridiculous and
one of the worst I've ever seen. Although the Car 54 game is a little bit
complicated to play, it's one of the best I ever saw.




Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 08, 2013, 11:36:15 AM

I think if you google almost any popular classic tv show plus "board game"
you'll find one!  Let me try a couple that have been mentioned recently:

(http://crystal-cdn3.crystalcommerce.com/photos/273209/large/picThe_Time_Tunnel_Game.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 08, 2013, 11:38:37 AM

For Kathy:
(http://img3.etsystatic.com/000/0/6218930/il_fullxfull.313767503.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 08, 2013, 11:43:37 AM
(http://worthopedia.s3.amazonaws.com/images/thumbnails2/1/0709/20/1_3c1ea165cd18c78d8c641522a9e09357.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 08, 2013, 11:45:15 AM
I am actually still in shock about the TV guide thing, why did I think I was the only one?  :D  And yes I loved the format, like a little book......crosswords, a little entertainment news and the guide.  Like I said I subscribed for years and years, got in every week in the mail.  And if someone died, I saved that issue.

Anyway NPH, is it possible he was just unsure about his sexuality, how sure are we when we are young?   Not everyone is the same don't forget, he talks about "the scale" on the interview with Oprah.  Some men (like Ricky Martin) admitted that he loved making love to women, but identifies as a gay male, that confuses the hell out of people.  Especially straight people.

I will be back later to discuss the classic games, love them.  I have a few!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 08, 2013, 11:50:24 AM
is it possible he was just unsure about his sexuality

Anything is possible. He's not unsure now. He says he's gay.

Quote
Some men (like Ricky Martin) admitted that he loved making love to women, but identifies as a gay male, that confuses the hell out of people.  Especially straight people.

Also, I take what these guys say with a grain of salt, because as I said, you aren't going to
want to p.o. your fan base. NPH plays a womanizer on his show after all and women adore
Ricky. You aren't going to jeopardize that.  But any other comments on this should go in
one of the Gay, Bi, Whatever section threads IMO.

Now, back to board games:

(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic413851_t.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 08, 2013, 11:54:36 AM
I am actually still in shock about the TV guide thing, why did I think I was the only one?  :D
In 1956 I was a Cub Scout and to earn some sort of badge one had to have a hobby or a collection or something.  I had nothing so I decided to keep,(collect), our
TV Guides which came each week in the mail.  I did so for two years.  My parents thought I was nuts in that there was nothing valuable or even interesting in keeping old TV guides. 
I still have them.  A bit over 120 dating 1956-through part of 1958. 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 08, 2013, 11:57:02 AM

I just looked up a couple, what I thought might be odd choices, but there they are!

(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic122911_t.jpg)   (http://cdn102.iofferphoto.com/img3/item/469/547/898/eHjg.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 08, 2013, 12:02:28 PM

I looked up Laugh-In. There's not specifically a Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In Game,
but there is, and I would expect nothing less, this:

(http://crystal-cdn4.crystalcommerce.com/photos/341434/large/picSqueeze_Your_Bippy.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 08, 2013, 12:12:26 PM
"My favorite" tv related toy growing up had to be this
My Favorite Martian - Martian Magic Tricks.
(http://www.myfavoritemartian.ca/mfmtrck.jpg)

Over the years, thr tricks all got lost or broken. I do wish I still
had the little plastic replica of Martin's spaceship, though.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 08, 2013, 12:24:20 PM

Trivia question: Who has appeared on the cover of TV Guide more than anyone else?
(According to my TV Guide: Fifty Years of Television book.)

Well, without "googling" it, I am going to say Lucille Ball.  It seems to me that I heard or read that somewhere.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 08, 2013, 12:29:23 PM
My parents thought I was nuts in that there was nothing valuable or even interesting
in keeping old TV guides.  I still have them.  A bit over 120 dating 1956-through part of 1958.

That is great! Do you ever look at them or are they in storage?

THat means you have most of these:

1/7/1956 Arthur Godfrey  
1/14/1956 Loretta Young  
1/21/1956 Lawrence Welk  
1/28/1956 Janis Paige  
2/4/1956 Judy Tyler  
2/11/1956 Perry Como  
2/18/1956 Jimmy Durante  
2/25/1956 Gisele MacKenzie  
3/3/1956 Lynn Dollar & Hal March  
3/10/1956 Frances Rafferty & Spring Byington  
3/17/1956 Maurice Evans & Lilli Palmer  
3/24/1956 Dave Garroway  
3/31/1956 Arlene Francis & John Daly  
4/7/1956 Jayne Meadows, Garry Moore & Faye Emerson  
4/14/1956 Grace Kelly  
4/21/1956 Nanette Fabray  
4/28/1956 Red Skelton  
5/5/1956 George Gobel & Mitzi Gaynor  
5/12/1956 Bernadette O'Farrell & Richard Greene  
5/19/1956 Phil Silvers & Elisabeth Fraser  
5/26/1956 Alice Lon & Lawrence Welk  
6/2/1956 Sid Caesar & Janet Blair  
6/9/1956 Patti Page  
6/16/1956 Elinor Donahue, Robert Young, Lauren Chapin & Billy Gray  
6/23/1956 Steve Allen  
6/30/1956 Bob Cummings  
7/7/1956 Lassie Photograph Garrett-Howard
7/14/1956 Gordon MacRae & Sheila MacRae  
7/21/1956 Bill Lundigan & Mary Costa  
7/28/1956 Gail Davis of Annie Oakley
8/4/1956 Jackie Cooper & Cleo (dog)  
8/11/1956 Democratic Convention Illustration
8/18/1956 GOP Convention Illustration Kramer
8/25/1956 Esther Williams  
9/1/1956 Alice Lon  
9/8/1956 Elvis Presley  
9/15/1956 Fall Preview 1956-1957 Shows  
9/22/1956 Hal March illustration Al Hirschfeld
9/29/1956 Jackie Gleason  
10/6/1956 Gale Storm  
10/13/1956 The Nelson Family  
10/20/1956 Phyllis Goodkind & Perry Como  
10/27/1956 Alfred Hitchcock  
11/3/1956 Edward R. Murrow illustration Al Hirschfeld
11/10/1956 Loretta Young Photograph Elmer Holloway
11/17/1956 Buddy Hackett  
11/24/1956 Nanette Fabray  
12/1/1956 Gracie Allen & George Burns illustration Al Hirschfeld
12/8/1956 Victor Borge  
12/15/1956 Dinah Shore  
12/22/1956 Merry Christmas  
12/29/1956 Jeannie Carson  
1/5/1957 Arthur Godfrey illustration Al Hirschfeld
1/12/1957 Lucille Ball  
1/19/1957 Jerry Lewis  
1/26/1957 Bob Hope illustration Al Hirschfeld
2/2/1957 Jane Wyman  
2/9/1957 Hugh O'Brian  
2/16/1957 Jane Wyatt & Robert Young  
2/23/1957 Charles Van Doren  
3/2/1957 Dorothy Collins & Gisele MacKenzie  
3/9/1957 Arthur Godfrey & Pat Boone  
3/16/1957 The Emmy Awards  
3/23/1957 Tennessee Ernie Ford Illustration Ernest Chiriaka
3/30/1957 Julie Andrews  
4/6/1957 Lawrence Welk Illustration Al Hirschfeld
4/13/1957 Nanette Fabray of The Kaiser Aluminum Hour in a baseball uniform (a baseball preview feature was included in this issue) Photograph Herb Ball
4/20/1957 Loretta Young  
4/27/1957 Groucho Marx Illustration Al Parker
5/4/1957 Hal March & Robert Strom  
5/11/1957 James Arness of Gunsmoke Photograph Garrett-Howard
5/18/1957 Esther Williams  
5/25/1957 Sid Caesar illustration Al Hirschfeld
6/1/1957 Ida Lupino & Howard Duff  
6/8/1957 Lassie  
6/15/1957 Red Skelton  
6/22/1957 Jack Bailey  
6/29/1957 Gale Storm  
7/6/1957 What's My Line? Illustration Al Hirschfeld
7/13/1957 Gail Davis  
7/20/1957 Julius La Rosa  
7/27/1957 Garry Moore  
8/3/1957 Cleo  
8/10/1957 Ann B. Davis & Bob Cummings  
8/17/1957 Phil Silvers Illustration Al Hirschfeld
8/24/1957 Marjorie Lord & Danny Thomas  
8/31/1957 Clint Walker of Cheyenne Photograph Warner Bros.
9/7/1957 Janette Davis & Arthur Godfrey  
9/14/1957 "Fall Preview 1957-1958 Shows, Photograph Arthur Williams
9/21/1957 Pat Boone  
9/28/1957 Gracie Allen & George Burns  
10/5/1957 Joan Caulfield  
10/12/1957 This Is The Week To Watch photo montage  
10/19/1957 Loretta Young  
10/26/1957 Peter Lawford & Phyllis Kirk  
11/2/1957 Lucille Ball Illustration Al Hirschfeld
11/9/1957 James Garner  
11/16/1957 Patti Page  
11/23/1957 Mary Martin  
11/30/1957 Alfred Hitchcock illustration Al Hirschfeld
12/7/1957 Dinah Shore Illustration Al Parker
12/14/1957 Walt Disney  
12/21/1957 Season's Greetings  
12/28/1957 Ricky Nelson of The Adventures of Ozzie & Harriet Photograph John Engstead
1/4/1958 Lawrence Welk  
1/11/1958 Gisele MacKenzie  
1/18/1958 John Payne  
1/25/1958 Sid Caesar & Imogene Coca Photograph Philippe Halsman
2/1/1958 Walter Winchell  
2/8/1958 Perry King & Tab Hunter  
2/15/1958 A Great Week  
2/22/1958 Rosemary Clooney  
3/1/1958 Lassie illustration Al Hirschfeld
3/8/1958 Arthur Godfrey  
3/15/1958 Amanda Blake & James Arness  
3/22/1958 Perry Como Illustration Al Hirschfeld
3/29/1958 Tennessee Ernie Ford  
4/5/1958 Gale Storm  
4/12/1958 Hugh O'Brian illustration Al Hirschfeld
4/19/1958 Polly Bergen  
4/26/1958 Guy Williams of Zorro Photograph Dave Preston
5/3/1958 Shirley Temple  
5/10/1958 Richard Boone of Have Gun Will Travel Photograph Philippe Halsman
5/17/1958 Danny Thomas  
5/24/1958 Dick Clark  
5/31/1958 Phyllis Kirk

That's pretty impressive! The Elvis one alone would be worth a lot to a collector.
The 9/14/1957 "Fall Preview 1957-1958 Shows, Photograph Arthur Williams, is considered a standout, as well.
I just recalled it's the week my best friend was born, too!

Not that I expect you to go searching, but I have to ask, why was this the week to watch TV?
10/12/1957 This Is The Week To Watch photo montage

I'm impressed you have all these, would be great to see them!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 08, 2013, 12:41:55 PM
Well, without "googling" it, I am going to say Lucille Ball.
It seems to me that I heard or read that somewhere.

You heard or read correctly!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 08, 2013, 01:00:54 PM
Some men (like Ricky Martin) admitted that he loved making love to women, but identifies as a gay male, that confuses the hell out of people.  Especially straight people.

It confuses the hell out of me, too.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 08, 2013, 01:01:36 PM

Not that I expect you to go searching, but I have to ask, why was this the week to watch TV?
10/12/1957 This Is The Week To Watch photo montage

I'm impressed you have all these, would be great to see them!

Hmm, is that the one with the black and white sort of "checkerboard" cover design?  If so, not sure why it would have been" the week" except that it might have been episode premiere week that year.  That was usually in September back then, however.  It was also a week after Sputnik threw all of us for a loop. 

My collection is currently, most of it anyway, on exhibit in the lobby of the Paley Center in NYC. Until the end of this month, I think.  It then is being packed up and sent to SFO for an 8 or 12 week exhibit in the American Airlines terminal.  Then, i don't know, back into a "hermetically sealed" mason jar I guess.  I gave it to my youngest son several years ago and he manages it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 08, 2013, 01:04:19 PM
I think if you google almost any popular classic tv show plus "board game"
you'll find one!

I regularly see a board-game tie-in to Fess Parker's Daniel Boone on eBay. When I was a kid I had a Petticoat Junction game--something about using the Hooterville Cannonball to help Kate Bradley do her shopping--the first person back to the Shady Rest won.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 08, 2013, 02:44:21 PM


(http://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic413851_t.jpg)

Lyle did you know dolphins are just gay sharks?? :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 08, 2013, 02:48:34 PM
My daughter in law is a board game fanatic (that is all her family must have done growing up) and she is a classic TV nut, and "loves" all the old game shows.  So I try to get her old TV games at yard sales and antique places.  They are usually either junky, missing bits or mint and they want a fortune for them.

She got one at the Goodwill one day, I can't even remember now what show it was.  She was so excited, it was in perfect condition and it was 2 dollars!  I think it was Family Fued with Richard Dawson.


I can't believe we have someone else with a TV guide collection, can we petition to get the old TV guide back?   Maybe with satellite and all that it wouldn't be popular??

I am going to dig mine out tonight, see what years I have.


Imagine having the I love Lucy one, when Little Ricky was born?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 08, 2013, 03:04:52 PM
My collection is currently, most of it anyway, on exhibit in the lobby of the Paley Center in NYC. Until the end of this month, I think.  It then is being packed up and sent to SFO for an 8 or 12 week exhibit in the American Airlines terminal.  Then, i don't know, back into a "hermetically sealed" mason jar I guess.  I gave it to my youngest son several years ago and he manages it.

We now have a Paley Center in Los Angeles, well, it's in Beverly Hills.
How about exhibiting it there! Heh!

http://www.paleycenter.org/visit-visitla/

That is cool that it's being seen!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 08, 2013, 03:06:38 PM
Well, without "googling" it, I am going to say Lucille Ball.  It seems to me that I heard or read that somewhere.


http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc/38077612#38077612


Check it out!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 08, 2013, 03:15:32 PM
She IS The First Lady of Television.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 08, 2013, 04:20:02 PM
We now have a Paley Center in Los Angeles, well, it's in Beverly Hills.
How about exhibiting it there! Heh!

http://www.paleycenter.org/visit-visitla/

That is cool that it's being seen!


Yes, they were at the LA,(Beverly Hills), center in the Fall of 2010...I think.  yeah, 2010.
The collection is of the entire magazine, not the just the covers, so, in total, it is surprisingly bulky and heavy and difficult to move around. But, the museum personnel know what they are doing and take care of all of that.  The covers are fun, of course, but what i have always found interesting are the reviews, the mini-synopsis of the various shows, and most importantly, the advertising.  The ads, especially, give a rich and diverse history of the culture of the time. 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 08, 2013, 04:42:50 PM
Hope y'all enjoy having the topic here in the board where it belongs!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 08, 2013, 05:01:26 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/C31_zpsd6f2953b.jpg)

One of my absolute favorites. Always watched it every week. Dr. Zachary Smith/Jonathan Harris always irritated me.

I did not know that John Williams was one of the composers on the show.
Must of been before he got famous.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 08, 2013, 05:08:16 PM
Hadn't realized that!

And I remembered some of the stars from other series, Angela Cartwright from Make Room For Daddy (and The Sound of Music), June Lockhart from Lassie, and Guy Williams from Zorro.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 08, 2013, 05:18:14 PM
I haven't gone through the whole thread yet, but I do remember Inner Sanctum. It looks like it was only on on season, from Jan through Oct.
The opening scene always stuck with me, the creaking door opening up into a black abyss.

It was originally a radio program, then there were a couple of movies, and then the one season in TV, 39 episodes in 1954.

(http://www.nostalgiamerchant.biz/Tv%20JPEGS%20Large/Inner_Sanctum.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 08, 2013, 05:24:05 PM
Two words: Mighty Mouse.  ;D

I remember once Mighty Mouse got mentioned in an episode of NCIS: LA. Kensi and Sam had to enter a suspect's home. He was gone, but there was a Mighty Mouse cartoon playing on the TV. Kensi said something about not understanding Mighty Mouse, and Sam--big, uber-muscled LL Cool J--replied, "It's the Mouse."  ;D

Mighty Mouse

"Here he comes to save the day!"
http://youtu.be/BdIev12fCPs  (I still have this tune in my head!)

(http://api.ning.com/files/EHaB5oXttiAVOakupf2xObJm-Hl4*QxNKjrlhk6JoKwo*r5UCDkRjBof49DyU7jI42YBRS6qXpZx0zJ6MZC6rdE*5VYmWGyU/mighty_mouse.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 08, 2013, 05:26:36 PM
Yeah, some of the Mighty Mouse cartoons were downright operatic!  :D

Never knew that Inner Sanctum was on TV. I've been listening to it on Sirius XM Classic Radio when on trips.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 08, 2013, 05:29:39 PM
Yeah, some of the Mighty Mouse cartoons were downright operatic!  :D

Never knew that Inner Sanctum was on TV. I've been listening to it on Sirius XM Classic Radio when on trips.



It was just the one season, 1954, 39 Episodes. (Obviously I would have had to have seen it a few years later in reruns, because I doubt I would have remembered it at 2 yo!)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 08, 2013, 05:31:31 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/page0_blog_entry12931-crockett-album_zpsfdaa1c9a.jpg)

We always watched this!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: gwyllion on March 08, 2013, 05:34:25 PM
Hope y'all enjoy having the topic here in the board where it belongs!

Thanks for rounding them up for me, Fritz   :-*

I don't watch TV now, nor have I ever watched TV.

Oh, wait.... Lost in Space.... I've seen that before...  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 08, 2013, 05:43:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxIuIxqo2So


Is this the one (Lone Ranger)?


 ;D

The classical song that this theme song was based on.

"Rossini: William Tell Overture: Final".

http://youtu.be/c7O91GDWGPU

Can anyone remember other theme songs of tv shows based on classical songs?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 08, 2013, 05:53:54 PM
One of my absolute favorites. Always watched it every week. Dr. Zachary Smith/Jonathan Harris always irritated me.



I always thought Dr. Smith was a hoot.  "Oh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!"


The one who irritated me was Don West, who was always mean to Dr. Smith and acted so macho.  He was tedious and not even cute.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 08, 2013, 05:54:39 PM
Thanks for moving the thread, Fritz!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 08, 2013, 05:57:11 PM
Does anyone remember Lariat Sam and his horse, Tippy Toes?

It was a cartoon on CAPTAIN KANGAROO.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 08, 2013, 05:57:57 PM
(http://cdn102.iofferphoto.com/img3/item/469/547/898/eHjg.jpg)


Oh I loved "77 Sunset Strip".
Cookie (Edward Burns) was cute, (never had a thing for blonds) but Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. and Roger Smith.
Oh let's face it, they were all good looking!! ::)

http://youtu.be/weAIhNDn034
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 08, 2013, 06:03:30 PM
Hadn't realized that!

And I remembered some of the stars from other series, Angela Cartwright from Make Room For Daddy (and The Sound of Music), June Lockhart from Lassie, and Guy Williams from Zorro.

Yes I remember them in all those riles.

Jonathan Harris was the timid accountant Bradford Webster in the TV version of The Third Man

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 08, 2013, 06:05:16 PM

I always thought Dr. Smith was a hoot.  "Oh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!"


The one who irritated me was Don West, who was always mean to Dr. Smith and acted so macho.  He was tedious and not even cute.

Yeah, Don West was my least favorite character as well.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: suelyblu on March 08, 2013, 06:28:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COsWRn0BLCA



The intro for the TV series "The Untouchables" with Robert Stack........and the fabulous narrator Walter Winchell !.

My dad would never miss an episode of this. Consequently we all watched it.
Instead of being able to quote passages from the bible.....I could list nearly all the gangsters from this era  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 08, 2013, 06:34:51 PM
The Outer Limits 1963-1965

My dad loved this show. So much in fact that it was the ONLY show we ever moved the TV into the kitchen to watch the show!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/27/TheOuterLimits-Screenshot-old.jpg)

http://youtu.be/DY6y0zRCiOY
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: suelyblu on March 08, 2013, 06:39:09 PM
                                                          ^^^

Oh yes! I remember this well. The intro always scared me a little bit...but I couldn't not watch !!! :D
Thanks for posting this Linda.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 08, 2013, 06:40:04 PM
Oh yeah, The Outer Limits was a good one. Even spookier than The Twilight Zone in many ways.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: kathy on March 08, 2013, 06:57:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COsWRn0BLCA

The intro for the TV series "The Untouchables" with Robert Stack........and the fabulous narrator Walter Winchell !.

My dad would never miss an episode of this. Consequently we all watched it.
Instead of being able to quote passages from the bible.....I could list nearly all the gangsters from this era  :D

I loved the Untouchables too.  Robert Stack was the main reason.

kathy    :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: kathy on March 08, 2013, 07:06:12 PM
For Kathy:
(http://img3.etsystatic.com/000/0/6218930/il_fullxfull.313767503.jpg)

Thanks, lyle!  I love seeing this.  I'm seriously wondering why I don't remember the game.

kathy     :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 08, 2013, 08:07:43 PM
Oh yeah, The Outer Limits was a good one. Even spookier than The Twilight Zone in many ways.



Yes it really was. So much more 'out there'!! Although, "Twilight Zone", had some really strange ones too!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 08, 2013, 08:55:12 PM
Quote
Quote from Lyle:
I saw that house on a commercial this week!  I was like, there's Samantha's house!
It didn't have the awnings on the windows. It is still on the Columbia pictures backlot
there in Burbank, but I don't see how anyone could ever use it again really! I always loved
that house, too. By the way, it's right next door to the Hazel house which was also the same
house for I Dream of Jeannie AND Gidget. The house across the street is the Partridge Family
house. Dennis the Meance's house and neighbors are down the street somehwat further.


I copied this from the "Sucky" thread, where we discussed the Stevens' house from Bewitched before the threads were split. I saw the house this evening. Twice. It was really quite funny. I saw it once on an episode of Bewitched, and then immediately again on an episode of I Dream of Jeannie, where it was the home of Dr. and Mrs. Bellows.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 09, 2013, 08:03:39 AM
as my eyes passed down the list of names someone posted for something, i saw the name giselle mckenzie and had such a head rush.  i faithfully watched YOUR HIT PARADE, with giselle, snooky lanson, dorothy collins, and russell arms.  it was always a riot when a song stayed at the top of the charts for months on end, because they did a little production number for each song, and had to come up with new ways to showcase the same song week after week after week.

the show ran on tv from 1950-59, so it was the time from when i was 7 to 13.  i remember perry como songs being a big hit back then.  i'm sure others will come to me as my brain revisits the memories.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 09, 2013, 08:07:22 AM
Hadn't realized that!

And I remembered some of the stars from other series, Angela Cartwright from Make Room For Daddy (and The Sound of Music), June Lockhart from Lassie, and Guy Williams from Zorro.
i had kind of a crush on billy mumy.  it lasted quite a while too, as he grew up quite well.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 09, 2013, 08:42:15 AM
Hey I had a crush on Billy Mummy, I gotta go look for some pics later today!


And I remember Hit Parade, we are tapping into our subconscious mind in this post I swear!!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 09, 2013, 08:54:30 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMOJ94RyBDY
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 09, 2013, 09:57:23 AM
Hope y'all enjoy having the topic here in the board where it belongs!

Yes, thank you Fritz!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 09, 2013, 09:58:58 AM

I did not know that John Williams was one of the composers on the show.
[Lost in Space.] Must of been before he got famous.

I've seen a few episodes of this the past year. ME-TV airs it on Saturday nights.
If you get that network they should be starting over with the first season again
soon. I was surprised to see his name for the theme, too. I like it, but they did
a re-recording of it when Season 3 started airing and I don't particularly like that
arrangement of it.

I haven't researched what else he's done, but I've seen his name for the music on
Gilligan's Island episodes and he also did the theme song of another Irwin Allen show,
The Time Tunnel. I believe hie was credited as Johnny Williams on these series.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: huntinbuddy on March 09, 2013, 10:16:18 AM
Oh yeah, The Outer Limits was a good one. Even spookier than The Twilight Zone in many ways.



I really liked both Outer Limits and Twilight Zone, however, Serling did another series before his death called Night Gallery.   Now that was some scary stuff!

Here is one of my favorites from the series, yet most disturbing.....Sins of the Fathers, which stars a very young Richard Thomas as the Sin Eater.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqW8Tv4yfHk
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 09, 2013, 11:03:28 AM

Giselle McKenzie--I remember her a frequent guest on the original Match Game
series. I loved the theme of that series, "Swingin' Safari."

Billy Mumy was the go to child actor of that era.  He was everywhere. ME-TV has
an ad showing him in a Twiight Zone episode. I remember him from two episodes
of Bewitched. One was when Endora turned Darrin into his younger self. He played
the younger Darrin. The other was the first Christmas episode when they take him
home from an orphanage for the holidays. There's an amusing scene when he tells
Samantha that the adults think he's a problem child. She asks, "Well are you?" He
nods his head yes, in agreement. Lol!  What did he do after Lost in Space?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 09, 2013, 11:15:46 AM
I copied this from the "Sucky" thread, where we discussed the Stevens' house from Bewitched before the threads were split. I saw the house this evening. Twice. It was really quite funny. I saw it once on an episode of Bewitched, and then immediately again on an episode of I Dream of Jeannie, where it was the home of Dr. and Mrs. Bellows.  :D

I saw that I Dream of Jeannie last night, too. I stopped and watched specifically because of that.
Bizarre that they used the Bewitched house, both exterior and interior, for the Bellows place. It
was the same studio, but didn't they think people would notice? After all, Bewitched was a huge
ratings hit and had been on TV for at least two years by then. They were on different networks
and we couldn't replay them like we can now, so who knows, but it's odd to me. I always read,
though they never bad-mouthed it or talked about it publicly, that the Bewitched people were
slightly ticked off at the Jeannie show. They considered it a pretty big rip-off of their own series.
TV audiences found a place for them both, apparently. I liked Jeannie, but it seems more dated
because of all the 60's astronaut stuff. That is a show that could probaly be remade. Someone
else could find the bottle with Jeannie in it (she's apparently ageless) and with the different
mores now than then...who knows? They had been discussing a Broadway musical version of
it, though I haven't heard anything recently. I'd prefer it be a male genie, though.  Heh!


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 09, 2013, 11:17:39 AM
Yes, they were at the LA,(Beverly Hills), center in the Fall of 2010...I think.  yeah, 2010.

 I guess I missed them.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 09, 2013, 11:20:30 AM
Can anyone remember other theme songs of tv shows based on classical songs?

The only things I can come up with are the NBC Nightly News Theme, before they
had "John WIlliams" write the new one. The Bad News Bears TV series used music
from Carmen, does that count?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 09, 2013, 11:22:07 AM
Oh I loved "77 Sunset Strip".
Cookie (Edward Burns) was cute, (never had a thing for blonds) but Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. and Roger Smith.
Oh let's face it, they were all good looking!! ::)

This is one show I have heard about my entire life, but never seen an episode of it.
The classic theme song is great. I was hoping Warners would put it out on dvd or it
would show up on one of those retro channels, but it hasn't.

A couple times a month I walk down Sunset Blvd., right past the buildings where the
detective office was located on the show and the nightclub where Ed Burns parked
cars next door.  There is a large plaque embedded in the sidewalk that says something
like "This is the filming site of the classic television series 77 SUNSET STRIP."  It has become
a habit every time I walk by and step on the plaque to stop and snap my fingers two times!

This show was so popular that Warner Brothers plugged the same format (detective agency
in an interesting location) into several other shows and cities--Hawaiian Eye, Surfside 6 and
Bourbon Street Beat come to mind.  I haven't seen any of those shows!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 09, 2013, 11:24:10 AM
Yeah, Don West was my least favorite character as well.

Oh, Linda and Mark, I liked him and thought he was appealing!  I think I liked him
because, well, at first I liked the character of Dr. Smith and his shenanigans, but
his complete idiocy started wearing thin as the series went on and Don West was
the only character who wouldn't put up with that and put him in his place. Someone
on that show need to do that.  How many times could Smith blow up half the Jupiter
or get them in trouble or the like? He'd have been in the brig if it were a real situation!

Did you ever notice that Irwin Allen's shows started off with these great and real
premises, but quickly devolved into cartoonish alien plots and unbelievable situations?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 09, 2013, 11:25:29 AM
the TV series "The Untouchables" with Robert Stack........and the fabulous narrator Walter Winchell !.
My dad would never miss an episode of this. Consequently we all watched it. Instead of being able to quote
passages from the bible.....I could list nearly all the gangsters from this era  :D

LOL!  I love this series, too.  I found out about it when I was in college and the series was
first synidcated at midnight.  I remember once, and I don't know why he mentioned it, on
a Dr. Phil show he said something like "I remember when I was in college I almost missed
half my morning classes because I'd been up too late watching The Untouchables."  LOL!

During its day it was hugely popular and considered extremely violent. (Watching it now
you wonder what those audiences at the time would think of today's television!) One of
my favorite episodes guest stars Elizabeth Montgomery, who got her first Emmy nomination
for it) and there's a scene in it where David White (who played Larry Tate on Bewitched) grabs
her and plants a big one on her mouth. (Shocking!) Another one is called The Day They Shot
Santa Claus and guest stars an actress I was always fond of, Nita Talbot. (She played a recurring
Russian woman character on Hogan's Heroes.) That Untouchables episode also starred a very
cute and young Butch Patrick. I also liked the two-parter (which was re-edited as a film for
foreign distribution and subsequent airing on U.S. tv) which was about Al Capone being
transferred by train to another prison and his planning to escape. A lot of great guest stars,
either famous then or soon to be famous, were on that show. A few are, Cloris Leachman,
Dan Dailey, Barbara Stanwyck (twice), Dick York, Dyan Cannon, Jack Lord, Telly Savalas,
Ed Asner (in the Stanwyck episodes), Gavin MacLeod. Robert Redford, Peter Falk and
Jim Backus. Louise Fletcher was even in the episode where Claire Trevor played Ma Barker!

This entire series is on dvd in half-seasons sets including the original Desilu Playhouse two-parterr
which was so popular it bcame the series. I have the first thee seasons and hope to get the last
season at some point.

In some memorabilia places I've seen gum cards for this series and I always wondered why
they chose the color pink for the wrapper.

TRIVIA QUESTION: What Best Picture winner has a scene where a character doesn't want to
go out that evening because she'll miss seeing The Untouchables?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 09, 2013, 12:48:50 PM
Oh, Linda and Mark, I liked him and thought he was appealing!  I think I liked him
because, well, at first I liked the character of Dr. Smith and his shenanigans, but
his complete idiocy started wearing thin as the series went on and Don West was
the only character who wouldn't put up with that and put him in his place. Someone
on that show need to do that.  How many times could Smith blow up half the Jupiter
or get them in trouble or the like? He'd have been in the brig if it were a real situation!

Did you ever notice that Irwin Allen's shows started off with these great and real
premises, but quickly devolved into cartoonish alien plots and unbelievable situations?


I agree with all you say about his character and his actions against Dr. Smith, Lyle. I guess he just not appeal to me physically.
I always thought there was just too much of an attitude about him. But this may be what appealed to you.
I was only 10-13 at the time it was on originally, so it is hard to pinpoint exactly why my 10 yo mind disliked him.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 09, 2013, 04:24:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMOJ94RyBDY


 :'(  I love it!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 09, 2013, 05:25:16 PM

Quote from: Lyle (Mooska) on Today at 11:23:47 AM
Oh, Linda and Mark, I liked him and thought he was appealing!  I think I liked him
because, well, at first I liked the character of Dr. Smith and his shenanigans, but
his complete idiocy started wearing thin as the series went on and Don West was
the only character who wouldn't put up with that and put him in his place. Someone
on that show need to do that.  How many times could Smith blow up half the Jupiter
or get them in trouble or the like? He'd have been in the brig if it were a real situation!

Did you ever notice that Irwin Allen's shows started off with these great and real
premises, but quickly devolved into cartoonish alien plots and unbelievable situations?

[the following is from killersmom]

I agree with all you say about his character and his actions against Dr. Smith, Lyle. I guess he just not appeal to me physically.
I always thought there was just too much of an attitude about him. But this may be what appealed to you.
I was only 10-13 at the time it was on originally, so it is hard to pinpoint exactly why my 10 yo mind disliked him.

[the following is from me, ennis del mark]

Sorry Lyle, I'm sticking to my guns.  Even when I became exasperated with Dr. Smith he was always amusing.  I hated Don.

I too liked and still like Billy Mumy but even then sometimes felt that he got excess air time at the expense of Angela Cartwright.  I can only remember one episode that focused on her and he wasn't even in the episode.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 09, 2013, 06:18:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMOJ94RyBDY

Ah, surprised to find out how many of these singers I still recognize! I would have been 8.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: gwyllion on March 09, 2013, 06:46:46 PM
My 10 year-old self slashed everyone on Lost In Space.... without knowing what slash was.....

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 10, 2013, 05:42:48 AM
The only things I can come up with are the NBC Nightly News Theme, before they
had "John WIlliams" write the new one. The Bad News Bears TV series used music
from Carmen, does that count?

the lone ranger uses the william tell overture, and porky and bugs made liberal use of the barber of seville
the tv show victory at sea had a score composed for it by Richard Rodgers and Robert Russell Bennett which was later sold as multple disc sets of orchestral music.
alfred hitchcock used funeral march of marionette
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 10, 2013, 05:54:43 AM
huntley brinkley report (nbc news?) was the 2nd movement of bethoven's 9th symphony

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwIvS4yIThU
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 10, 2013, 06:14:04 AM
is masterpiece theater in our target group?  that's mouret's rondeau..
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 10, 2013, 12:00:16 PM
And very classic, in use for well over 50 years, Charpentier's Te Deum, used to signal for a national network that the next transmission would be multinational, in Eurovision.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK1N_vTgayw

I can remember the first time I heard this, back in 1966. Loved it immediately, and have ever since.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 10, 2013, 09:00:10 PM
http://www.turnipnet.com/whirligig/index.htm

I found a neat site!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 11, 2013, 07:43:14 AM
Last night I watched on DVD three episodes from the first season (1962-63) of The Beverly Hillbillies.

Considering what an enormous hit the show was, I was chagrinned to find that I didn't think those episodes were very funny.  :">  That probably says more about me at age almost-55 than it says about the show (though I'm kind of wondering what someone who was almost-55 in the fall of 1962 might have thought of it). We were regular viewers of the show, and I do remember as a kid being amused by the "pot-passers" in "the fancy eatin' room." And some friends and I still make fond references to the "cee-ment pond." ;D

I also noted that the plot of what I take to have been the pilot episode didn't quite match the lyrics to the theme song The Ballad of Jed Clampett. In the episode there is a swamp on Jed's land in which oil is naturallly seeping. This is discovered by a prospector for a Tulsa oil company. Jed wasn't "shootin' at some food, when up through the ground come a-bubblin' crude."

(Historical perspective: The fall of 1962 was the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis. Personal perspective: That November, your writer, aged 4 years, nearly died of a ruptured appendix.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 11, 2013, 08:41:17 AM
 :D Some of the shows come off as cheesy!   And yea you wonder were they always cheesy or is it just us looking at them with our "mature eyes".  It ran for almost 10 years, so truthfully I remember the latter years more.  I loved Miss Hathaway and Mr. Drysdale and the way Miss Hathaway was always after Jethro.   And Dash Riprock, he had a crush on Ellie Mae! :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 11, 2013, 09:26:27 AM
In that first episode, the Clampetts were worth a mere $25 million, but I guess that bought more in 1962 than it does today.  :D

I remember Dash Riprock. And all Ellie Mae's "critters." And Jethro being unable to make a career choice between brain surgeon and "double-nought spy."  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 11, 2013, 11:56:04 AM
 :D :D :D :D  See how can you not laugh at that?


As for the 25 million, Ashton Kutcher made that last year on a season of Two and Half Men, yea I guess money doesn't go as far as it use to!  :P
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 11, 2013, 12:27:53 PM

Yes, those poor 1%-ers. Those job creators.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 11, 2013, 12:39:04 PM
While I was watching Wagon Train Saturday afternoon, I got to thinking, I wonder how much it would cost today to recreate an episode of that show--different actors, of course, but otherwise to completely recreate an episode? Would one of the "classic" Westerns be prohibitively expensive to do today?

In Saturday's episode, Agnes Moorhead was the guest star. I'm so accustomed to thinking of her as that mean old drag queen Endora that it seemed odd to see her in a sympathetic role.  :D

I do wish I could see again the episodes I saw years ago that had Charles Laughton and Bette Davis as the guest stars (not in the same episode, of course). I remember in the Davis episode there was a sort of sly reference/inside joke to Davis' movie Jezebel, when her character mentioned to Major Adams that she had been in a yellow fever epidemic in New Orleans.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 11, 2013, 12:40:09 PM
Yes, those poor 1%-ers. Those job creators.

I'm sure the Clampetts must have kept all those people at the Commerce Bank of Beverly Hills employed.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 11, 2013, 12:46:49 PM

I believe I read that the Beverly Hillbillies episode titled "The Giant Jack Rabbit,"
in which granny thinks a kangaroo is a very large bunny, is the highest rated
regular episode of a tv series ever recorded. (By regular they mean it wasn't
some special season finale episode or the like.)

I was watching some episodes of this show last summer when ME-TV was
airing it on Wed. nights and some of them were very amusing. The joke
can wear thin, though, some of them were just plain worn out. I remember
even getting aggravated with it as a youngster in its later years when you'd
read what the plot was about in the TV Guide and the shows always just
seemed to lead up to the plot point and then stop and you were left hanging.

I always thought the idea of Jethro as Jethrene was downright creepy. The idea of
a group of people like this from the back woods, in Beverly Hills, IS funny, but repeating
it for nine years? One of the early episodes when the Clampetts go out to their neighbors
to borrow something and the neighbors think they're in costume because it's Halloween,
is very believable and even hilarious.

It's a show I don't mind seeing selected episodes, but not every episode.

One line I remember from that show is probably from it's last season. Jed and Mr. Drysdale
are flying to Washington, D.C., and they look out the window of the plane. Mr. Drysdale
remarks. "That is Washington's Dulles Airport." Jed looks down at it from the plane window
and replies, "Really? It looks quite lively to me."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 11, 2013, 01:02:01 PM

There is a television series called BURKE'S LAW that starred Gene Barry as
a millionaire Los Angeles police captain who investigated murders from a
Rolls-Royce and was a huge ladies man. Each episode sets up a murder in
the beginning and then a huge array of guest stars are introduced one by
one as suspects and eventually we find out who done it!

I got interested in it a few years ago when one season was put on dvd.
(The studio won't release the rights to the next seasons to put out the others.)
What's fascinating is seeing how many famous guest stars are in each episode.
You might come across Mickey Rooney, Joan Blondell, Ann Blyth, Zasu Pitts or
even Gloria Swanson!  Or then current stars like Annette Funicello and Frankie
Avalon with Dick Clark or Sammy Davis, Jr. thrown in.  Tab Hunter or John Gavin
anyone!

ME-TV, since last fall, has been airing this once a week at 4am on Sunday morning!
I've tried to tape it if I remember since they've gotten to the second season. The
episode that aired this week had Paul Lynde in it and the title was quite amusing,
"Who Killed Mr. Colby in Ladies Lingerie?" An upcoming episode has the Honey West
character in it that was spun off into the Honey West series a year later. I remember
one episode that had a bit part with Rue McClanahan (and Don West!) in it!

Anyone else heard of this show?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 11, 2013, 01:49:30 PM
Heard of Burke's Law? You bet!

What a shame that it's on at such a ridiculous time as 4 a.m.  :(

I remember Honey West, too. I suppose without Honey West there would have been no Police Woman.

The "Giant Jackrabbit" episode of The Beverly Hillbillies is included in the DVD collection I have. I vaguely remember it. I remember as a kid thinking the Jethro/Jethrene thing was funny. So was Granny and Cousin Pearl fighting in the kitchen.  :D

Some bits have stuck in my memory all these years; and most of them seem to involve Irene Ryan: Granny wanting a party-line telephone, and telling Ellie Mae that she needed to wear a veil when traveling by train to keep the cinders out of her hair. Also Granny thinking the Civil War was still on, and that Indians were attacking (John Wayne showed up in a cameo at the end).

Remember when the Clampetts went to England?

One bit in the later years that I thought was carried on way too long was the idea that the grunion (fish) were foreigners who were invading California.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 11, 2013, 01:50:24 PM
I have never heard of it, but I was just on youtube looking something up to send to someone (was surprised I found that) so I thought what the heck type this in too and found this episode:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik_-Wqjrgk

I watched some, I will have to come back later and watch the rest!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 11, 2013, 01:56:39 PM
Okay I am on a youtube roll, the jack rabbit episode:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSGgrBeGKo0
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 11, 2013, 02:08:21 PM

Anyone else heard of this show?


Oh sure, I remember it quite well.  It was one of my parent' favorites, especially my mom.
She loved Gene Barry to the extent that I had to take her to see him in "La Cage..." many years later.
I don't remember seeing that many episodes myself as I was a teenager and I guess thought I had better things to do
on a Friday or Saturday night or whenever it was on. 
I am pretty sure it was produced by Dick Powell/David Niven's (also Ida Lapino?) production company giving the show access to quite a few of the actors you mention who, otherwise, might have been a bit hesitant to "do" TV at the time.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 11, 2013, 02:57:19 PM
Oh I loved "77 Sunset Strip".
Cookie (Edward Burns) was cute, (never had a thing for blonds) but Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. and Roger Smith.
Oh let's face it, they were all good looking!! ::)

http://youtu.be/weAIhNDn034

Yup, "Cookie, Cookie, lend me your comb".
And of course,   "Surfside Six".  Troy Donahue.
"If Merle Johnson,Jr., can be a movie star then I can be a movie star".  ;)
Troy never did much for me,  Diane McBain on the other hand.  ;D  
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 12, 2013, 04:12:14 PM
Heard of Burke's Law? You bet!
What a shame that it's on at such a ridiculous time as 4 a.m.  :(

No kidding! During the week two other shows I wouldn't mind seeing off and on at a reasonable
hour air at 3am and 4am -- Combat! and Twelve O'Clock High.

I remember Honey West, too. I suppose without Honey West there would have been no Police Woman.

The channel also airs Honey West (2 episodes) right before Burke's Law.

Some bits have stuck in my memory all these years; and most of them seem to involve Irene Ryan:
[...]
Also Granny thinking the Civil War was still on, and that Indians were attacking (John Wayne showed up in a cameo at the end).

I'm all for exaggeration in comedy but things like that, even as a kid, just strained incredulity.
Really, the Civil War still on? The grunion?


Remember when the Clampetts went to England?

I remember that Paul Lynde was the passport clerk when they went to file for their passports!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bentgyro on March 12, 2013, 04:32:41 PM
I used to watch Burke's Law and enjoyed it.
Paul Lynde was sooo funny and I was a big fan.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 12, 2013, 04:36:30 PM
[Burke's Law] I don't remember seeing that many episodes myself as I was a teenager and
I guess thought I had better things to do on a Friday or Saturday night or whenever it was on.

It's first season it was on Friday nights from 8:30 - 9:30, right after 77 Sunset Strip and opposite
Route 66. The second season they moved it to Wednesday from 9:30 - 10:30. Because of the
James Bond influence in the movies they decided to shed him of the police connection to a particular
city and changed the title to Amos Burke, Secret Agent, airing Wed. from 10 - 11. It was opposite
the brand new hit I Spy and got trounced and cancelled after three seasons.

I am pretty sure it was produced by Dick Powell/David Niven's (also Ida Lapino?) production company
giving the show access to quite a few of the actors you mention who, otherwise, might have been a
bit hesitant to "do" TV at the time.

It was produced by Dick Powell/David Nivens Four Star Theatre production company. In fact, in the
original telefilm/pilot of Burke's Law that aired on Dick Powell's Four Star Theatre program, Dick Powell played
Amos Burke!  In the credits, the individual producer for this series (and Honey West) is Aaron Spelling (no wonder
Carolyn Jones played three characters on one episode!). His Dynasty costume designer, Nolan Miller, is also credited
for these two series. And this was about 20 years before they were household names for Dynasty!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 12, 2013, 04:53:18 PM
Oh yeah, Nolan Miller. 
The should pad guy who made us all look like full-backs.  ;)
Actually I guess the style was kind of flattering.

Good ol' Linda Evans.  I had the hots for her from her "Big Valley " days. 
Loved it when she and what's her name would start fighting and fall into that big fountain on "Dynasty". 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 12, 2013, 05:19:25 PM
I remember that Paul Lynde was the passport clerk when [the Clampetts] went to file for their passports!

That I did not remember!

I think I mentioned somewhere that I thought the grunion bit was dragged out way too long.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: huntinbuddy on March 12, 2013, 06:53:36 PM
Okay I am on a youtube roll, the jack rabbit episode:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSGgrBeGKo0

Fun stuff!    And a bit a trivia....the other woman in the scene with Max Baer and Nancy Kulp in the bank office is none other than Sharon Tate sporting a dark wig!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 13, 2013, 08:58:39 AM
Love me some Miss Hathaway.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 13, 2013, 09:04:50 AM
Awww poor Sharon Tate!  :'(

Now was Miss Hathaway (not Anne  :D)  Nancy Culp gay, I thought I read that she was??

And Jethro (Max Baer Jr.) his Dad was the famous boxer right?



Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 13, 2013, 11:36:04 AM
Awww poor Sharon Tate!  :'(

Now was Miss Hathaway (not Anne  :D)  Nancy Culp gay, I thought I read that she was??

And Jethro (Max Baer Jr.) his Dad was the famous boxer right?

Yes, she was a lesbian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Kulp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Kulp)

(Coincidentally, the article has a still of Max Baer, Nancy Kulp, and Sharon Tate.)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 14, 2013, 10:25:57 AM
I just went and checked that picture of the three of them, it doesn't even look like her (the hair I guess).



https://pinterest.com/swimmom2mg/childhood-tv-memories-late-60-s-all-70-s/


Late 70's had a lot of TV shows!


(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/gentle_ben1_zpsb85d4e8e.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 14, 2013, 10:34:55 AM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/HereComeTheBrides_S1_zpsed90f5b8.jpg)


(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/thumbnail_zps40212f42.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 14, 2013, 10:43:29 AM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/5477120e18bf832783013cb115bb4163_zps1df191b9.jpg?t=1363279283)

The Hardy Boys
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 14, 2013, 10:47:33 AM
Who affected and inspired millions of male teens in the mid to late 1970s to become The Hard-on Boys.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 14, 2013, 10:48:10 AM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/60dae8ef1c458a2b41063ec24f04cafc_zps912cef55.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 14, 2013, 10:52:10 AM
Who affected and inspired millions of male teens in the mid to late 1970s to become The Hard-on Boys.

They were nice looking I will say that!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 14, 2013, 11:12:49 AM
Late 70's had a lot of TV shows!

You are silly, you know that? Lol!  You wrote that and then posted shows that
weren't on then!

Gentle Ben (1967-69)
That Girl (1966-71)
Here Come the Brides (1968-70)

I always wanted to like Here Come the Brides, but it never gelled. The plots
all were a bit off. The issues seemed more of the 60's than it's setting. The
villain was too silly. Antenna Tv was showing the series on the weekend a
year ago and I tried watching a couple again. I didn't see it in color when
it first aired, but the colors are so pastelly-sweet that it also was a turn off.

I liked Bobby Sherman and David Soul, but Robert Bolt's costume always looked
like he stepped off the starship Enterprise or something. Joan Blondell was a plus.
Also, the idea of the series, based on a true story, was that the guys sent for a
boatload of girls from New Bedford to become their wives and in the series none
of them ever seemed in much of a hurry to actually get married. The theme song
was a standout, though.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 14, 2013, 11:21:33 AM
Lyle, Hardy Boys was late 70's, Mission Impossible was early 70's, and 70 and 71 are still the 70's.  I will give you the Gentle Ben one though!  I actually took them off that site, which was TV of the 60's and 70's.   Maybe we need to look at LATE 70's, how about that?

I think Bobby Sherman was the ultimate teen heart throb!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 14, 2013, 11:32:51 AM
Lyle, Hardy Boys was late 70's, Mission Impossible was early 70's, and 70 and 71 are still the 70's.

Not to be nit-picky, but I did not mention those two shows and your post did say "late 70's".
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 14, 2013, 03:44:39 PM
I stand corrected (are you writing that down  :D).   I don't know why I even said late 70's, I had to go back and look, I just meant 70's.   I will gather my thoughts and post some of those next week!


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: huntinbuddy on March 14, 2013, 07:56:32 PM
One that I remember well from the late 70's and the middle years of my college days was James at 15.   I remember it touched on some rather controversial issues at the time, which today wouldn't even get a second glance.   Probably some of the better episodes are available on You Tube.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_at_15
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 15, 2013, 03:37:01 AM
i'm lucky.  while i have an interesting mind for remembering odd bits, i am not blessed or cursed with sequential memory, i have little if any sense of what came when, so they are all just shows or events from various periods of my life.  if something occurred on or about the time of something specific to me, say high school graduation, i may be able to roughly date it but outside of that tabula rasa 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 15, 2013, 10:34:18 AM
Good point Jack!  :D


(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/FgeV_zps9b178fed.jpg)


I remember James at 15 very well, soon to go on to become James at 16!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: gwyllion on March 15, 2013, 10:58:59 AM
In high school, my friend Christopher had a mad crush on Lance Kerwin.

Where is he now?

Lance Kerwin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lance_Kerwin)

"Since the mid-1990s, Kerwin has not acted. He was a minister with UTurn4Christ in Kaua'i, Hawaii."

Christopher would be devastated!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 15, 2013, 12:05:14 PM

Jack, you could go visit him.

***

I didn't have a tv when most of this series aired, but I remember hearing about it
and seeing a couple episodes. It's TV movie pilot got huge ratings and the critics
liked both it and the series, but the creator or writer got immediately peeved with
network interference doing the series and left. It only laster 20 episodes! It burned
bright for a few months and then burned out fast. I always liked Linden Chiles, who
played the father, ever since I saw him in an episode of the Time Tunnel. Too bad
the series didn't work out for him.

Kevin Williamson credits this series for his idea for Dawson's Creek. He wanted to do
a James at 15 for the 90's, he says!

I always thought the actor Brian Kerwin was related to Lance Kerwin. Apparently a lot
of people assume that, but it's not true.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 15, 2013, 12:18:01 PM
Tabula Rasa

Isn't that your drag name?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 15, 2013, 12:19:25 PM

Are they, perhaps, friends with Keyser Söze or Rollo Tomassi?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 15, 2013, 02:13:27 PM
Isn't that your drag name?


 :D  :D  :D

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 15, 2013, 04:03:08 PM
Lance was a favorite of mine, a young actor who wasn't a pin-up stud type, but a youth who was also a good actor.  A study should be made of these "way above the average child actor" performers, who had above-average intelligence and talent.  When they were cast in a show you knew it would be a cut above usual.  Performers such as Lance, Lisa Gerritsen, Lisa Lucas, George Spell, and Ramades Pera, to name a few.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 15, 2013, 04:10:43 PM
Ramades Pera

I had to look this one up, I did not watch Kung Fu.
They have it spelled Radames, however.  There is
nothing like Ra-dames.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 15, 2013, 04:12:40 PM
I love you, Lyle.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 15, 2013, 05:29:32 PM
Catching up after being away to help my dad celebrate his 83rd birthday.

We watched That Girl and Here Come the Brides (I think I can still sing the theme song by heart).  :D I liked Jason and Jeremy, Joshua (David Soul) not so much. I guess, oddly enough, he had the bigger TV career, moving on to Starsky and Hutch (Paul Michael Glaser was more my type).
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 15, 2013, 10:44:42 PM
Catching up after being away to help my dad celebrate his 83rd birthday.

Congrats to your 'classic' dad, Jeff!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 15, 2013, 10:52:53 PM
Congrats to your 'classic' dad, Jeff!

Aw, thanks, Linda.  :)

I always thought the actor Brian Kerwin was related to Lance Kerwin. Apparently a lot
of people assume that, but it's not true.

Incidentally, Brian Kerwin was in tonight's episode of Blue Bloods (he was also in an episode of Elementary recently) (maybe he's becoming the go-to guy for overweight older men). I noticed something that struck me as unusual; even though he was playing a character on the upper limits of middle age (as he himself must be), in several shots you could clearly see that he was wearing a hearing aid behind each ear.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 15, 2013, 11:42:45 PM
Aw, thanks, Linda.  :)

Incidentally, Brian Kerwin was in tonight's episode of Blue Bloods (he was also in an episode of Elementary recently) (maybe he's becoming the go-to guy for overweight older men). I noticed something that struck me as unusual; even though he was playing a character on the upper limits of middle age (as he himself must be), in several shots you could clearly see that he was wearing a hearing aid behind each ear.

I am watching this now, and was thinking we had just been talking about him.
I was wondering about the hearing aids as well.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 16, 2013, 09:22:33 AM
I am watching this now, and was thinking we had just been talking about him.
I was wondering about the hearing aids as well.

On rereading my post I feel I phrased my comment kind of stupidly. It isn't a surprise to me that a man Brian Kerwin's age might need to wear hearing aids. What surprised me is that he wore them in his role in Blue Bloods.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 16, 2013, 12:49:38 PM

Recently on Antenna-TV I've been catching an occasional episode of Alfred Hitchock Presents.
People know that Hitchcock himself introduced the episodes, made light of the commercials
and the like.

I've noticed that if a story ends with some character seemingly getting away with an awful
deed, that in the tag he always says something like, "Don't worry. So and so was arrested
and jailed for their crime." I guess that was part of telelvision's unwritten rules back then that
if people committed an awful act, whether it be robbery, murder, being unfaithful to your
spouse, sex before marriage or the like that the character had to pay or suffer for it. It doesn't
sound like something Hitchcock would want to do, but it was also a way for these kinds of
stories to be told without altering them.

Last night's episode concerned a cheating husband. The faithful wife pretends to be
collecting old clothes for charity and she goes to the "other woman's" place and puts
poison into her sugar bowl. When she finds out her husband unexpectedly has gone
to the other woman's place that night she rushes over hoping to avoid him being killed
by the poison. The other woman finds out she's the wife and what she's done. She tells
her she was too late and he's been driven off to the hospital. If he doesn't make it, the
wife will be accused of murder if she tells them what she's done. The wife wants to save
her husband so she rushes off.

The husband was hiding in the other room and didn't hear any of this. He has come, though,
to tell the other woman that their relationship is over. He's going back to his wife. The other
woman is not happy and tries to get him to change his mind. She serves him a cup of coffee
and offers him the sugar, with the poison in it. He takes two big heaping teaspoons of it. His
wife will be accused of doing it.

In the tag, Hitchcock says that the other woman was immediately arrested for her crimes.
He says these things in such a way that you don't believe it, that he's being forced to say
it. And IMO that's true!

Some interesting episodes.  Ethical dilemmas are the best ones. Occasionally some stars
of the past appear that are interesting to watch. Like Hurd Hatfield in a recent one!
 

 

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 16, 2013, 01:44:45 PM
Isn't that your drag name?

No, but by god you've planted a seed, lol.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 16, 2013, 09:10:35 PM
Occasionally some stars
of the past appear that are interesting to watch. Like Hurd Hatfield in a recent one!

It's amazing who pops up on some of these old programs. I'm really hoping to see the Wagon Train episodes with Bette Davis and Charles Laughton. While I'm waiting, I'll just moon over Robert Horton.  ;D

Meanwhile, Bruce Dern showed up on today's episode of The Big Valley. I didn't recognize him behind a long beard, but he was doing the usual sleazy bad-guy routine that I associate with him.

Earlier, on today's episode of Bonanza--one so old that Pernell Roberts was still around as Adam--I recognized a face I couldn't put a name to. Fortunately I was able to catch the credits. They didn't list character name with actor name, but I knew the name as soon as I saw it, Ron Hayes (1929-2004), someone I probably hadn't thought of since the Sixties. I remember that at our house, in 1966-67, we watched him on a contemporary comedy-western called The Rounders (based on/inspired by a movie, I believe?), where he co-starred with Chill Wills  ;D and hunky-hunky Patrick Wayne--the Duke's boy.

I'd love to see some Alfred Hitchcock Presents. Ditto The Twilight Zone. Rod Serling was a genius.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 17, 2013, 06:08:40 AM
Recently on Antenna-TV I've been catching an occasional episode of Alfred Hitchock Presents.
People know that Hitchcock himself introduced the episodes, made light of the commercials
and the like.

I've noticed that if a story ends with some character seemingly getting away with an awful
deed, that in the tag he always says something like, "Don't worry. So and so was arrested
and jailed for their crime." I guess that was part of telelvision's unwritten rules back then that
if people committed an awful act, whether it be robbery, murder, being unfaithful to your
spouse, sex before marriage or the like that the character had to pay or suffer for it. It doesn't
sound like something Hitchcock would want to do, but it was also a way for these kinds of
stories to be told without altering them.

Last night's episode concerned a cheating husband. The faithful wife pretends to be
collecting old clothes for charity and she goes to the "other woman's" place and puts
poison into her sugar bowl. When she finds out her husband unexpectedly has gone
to the other woman's place that night she rushes over hoping to avoid him being killed
by the poison. The other woman finds out she's the wife and what she's done. She tells
her she was too late and he's been driven off to the hospital. If he doesn't make it, the
wife will be accused of murder if she tells them what she's done. The wife wants to save
her husband so she rushes off.

The husband was hiding in the other room and didn't hear any of this. He has come, though,
to tell the other woman that their relationship is over. He's going back to his wife. The other
woman is not happy and tries to get him to change his mind. She serves him a cup of coffee
and offers him the sugar, with the poison in it. He takes two big heaping teaspoons of it. His
wife will be accused of doing it.

In the tag, Hitchcock says that the other woman was immediately arrested for her crimes.
He says these things in such a way that you don't believe it, that he's being forced to say
it. And IMO that's true!

Some interesting episodes.  Ethical dilemmas are the best ones. Occasionally some stars
of the past appear that are interesting to watch. Like Hurd Hatfield in a recent one!
 

 





Lyle,

This episode was called "One for the Road" and was originally broadcast on March 3, 1957.

I love the Hitchcock show and have seasons 1-5 on DVD.  I wish to hell they'd get the other two seasons out on disc. Some of my favorite episodes come from season 6, especially "Coming, Mama" (April 11, 1961) where Eileen Heckart is wanting to accept a marriage proposal (from Don DeFore) and leave her domineering invalid mother.  Don't miss this one!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: moreta on March 17, 2013, 07:28:48 AM
http://www.thehighchaparral.com/chara1d.htm


I always had the hots for this guy ?   ;D


I just loved this show, one of the better quality westerns of the era, created by David Dortort, who also created Bonanza.  (did any one see Tin Men, with the "one hump and out theory?)  So true of most series of this era.  Why did moms always seem to die?

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 17, 2013, 01:12:25 PM
I just loved this show, one of the better quality westerns of the era, created by David Dortort, who also created Bonanza.  (did any one see Tin Men, with the "one hump and out theory?)  So true of most series of this era.  Why did moms always seem to die?

LOL! It wasn't just moms. I remember joking that any girl who fell in love with a Cartwright was a goner!  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 18, 2013, 11:32:08 AM

It was interesting that the premise of Bonanza is that Ben lived on the ranch with
his three sons from three diffferent wives he'd had. Ladies beware! Was the original
title My Three Sons? ME-TV showed the leprechaun episode of Bonanza yesterday.


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 18, 2013, 01:43:36 PM
It was interesting that the premise of Bonanza is that Ben lived on the ranch with
his three sons from three diffferent wives he'd had. Ladies beware! Was the original
title My Three Sons? ME-TV showed the leprechaun episode of Bonanza yesterday.

I saw that yesterday.  :) I remember feeling really sad when Dan Blocker died.

Lyle, would you happen to know, was Bonanza filmed in color right from the start (1959)? I did some reading up on the show today, but that was one thing I wasn't able to find out for sure.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 18, 2013, 02:32:32 PM
I've heard that too, and I'm pretty sure it was. NBC broadcast all their primetime shows in color by the late 50's, I think.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: moreta on March 18, 2013, 04:55:38 PM
I've heard that too, and I'm pretty sure it was. NBC broadcast all their primetime shows in color by the late 50's, I think.



Its pretty well documented that it aired in color from the start. 

What I loved is it had lyrics to the theme song which for some reason was never used. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpUd9KecPa4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpUd9KecPa4)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: moreta on March 18, 2013, 04:56:59 PM
Any one else love the Wild Wild West?

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 18, 2013, 05:27:50 PM
Its pretty well documented that it aired in color from the start. 

LOL, lord yes.  "In Living Color" no less.  RCA owned NBC at the time.
My grandmother bought a color tv in 1959 meaning that we had to watch anything that was broadcast in color including:
"Bonanza", "Sing Along with Mitch",(god help us), and "Disney's Wonderful World of Color". 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 18, 2013, 05:30:30 PM
Any one else love the Wild Wild West?


Yes, I liked it a lot.  "Steampunk" long before the term was coined.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bentgyro on March 18, 2013, 06:24:23 PM
It was interesting that the premise of Bonanza is that Ben lived on the ranch with
his three sons from three diffferent wives he'd had. Ladies beware! Was the original
title My Three Sons? ME-TV showed the leprechaun episode of Bonanza yesterday.



I remember that episode and Laughing a lot!!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 18, 2013, 07:24:06 PM
LOL, lord yes.  "In Living Color" no less.  RCA owned NBC at the time.
My grandmother bought a color tv in 1959 meaning that we had to watch anything that was broadcast in color including:
"Bonanza", "Sing Along with Mitch",(god help us), and "Disney's Wonderful World of Color". 

Really? Seriously, I had no idea color TV was available that early. Partly that's because nobody I knew, including my own parents and grandparents, had a color set before the middle Sixties at the earliest--in the case of my family I'm sure it was more like 1967 or so.

There is also the fact that some of the shows I remember most fondly had their first season in black and white as late as the middle of the Sixties (e.g., Daniel Boone, first season 1964-65).

Bewitched, The Beverly Hillbillies, and Petticoat Junction also began in black and white.

I remember Sing Along with Mitch (introduced the world to Leslie Uggams),  :D and we never missed Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 18, 2013, 07:32:37 PM
Any one else love the Wild Wild West?

The Wild, Wild West is one of the shows where people react with shocked disbelief when I tell them I didn't watch it as a kid. I've assumed it aired opposite something else we watched in my family, but now I've begun to wonder whether it was on after my bedtime.  ;) I can remember having to go to bed on Thursday nights after Daniel Boone was over, and lying in bed listening to Bewitched, which my parents had on the TV downstairs in the living room.  :D

I've enjoyed the few episodes I've seen of The Wild, Wild West on ME-TV, and I hope to see more of them. Robert Conrad is awfully hot in those black leather chaps, and I love watching Ross Martin do all those different characters.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 18, 2013, 07:33:58 PM
I remember my grandparents had a remote control for their TV. It was tethered to the set by a long cord, and you had to watch not to trip over it.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: suelyblu on March 18, 2013, 07:37:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig3GcDBjQN4

Remember this ??  I had the thrill of going on two different trains in the US which reminded me of this program.!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 18, 2013, 08:00:46 PM
Really? Seriously, I had no idea color TV was available that early. Partly that's because nobody I knew, including my own parents and grandparents, had a color set before the middle Sixties at the earliest--in the case of my family I'm sure it was more like 1967 or so.

There is also the fact that some of the shows I remember most fondly had their first season in black and white as late as the middle of the Sixties (e.g., Daniel Boone, first season 1964-65).

Bewitched, The Beverly Hillbillies, and Petticoat Junction also began in black and white.

I remember Sing Along with Mitch (introduced the world to Leslie Uggams),  :D and we never missed Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color.  :D

Actually color broadcasting and TV sales (basically RCA Victor only, and NBC) started in 1954, but it was a couple of years before they even had a single hour of color programming per night. CBS had an earlier color system, but it was incompatible with regular black and white TV's. Ed Sullivan was broadcast in this format for a while, but because non-color receivers couldn't show it, this system died without a trace.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_television

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 18, 2013, 08:05:58 PM
Back in high school we had a fund drive for the Holy Cross Missions, and one of the prizes was the opportunity to go to one of our classmates house, his family had a color TV (very early 60's). The show we watched was Sing Along with Mitch.

And when I was travelling with my parents to New York, we stopped at a motel in Petersburg, VA (The Roses of Picardy Motel), and they had a single color TV in the common room, which the guests were able to watch. It was The Price Is Right, that's the one I remembered seeing. This was in 1958. They had the color turned up so it was quite garish. I loved it!



Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 18, 2013, 08:07:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig3GcDBjQN4

Remember this ??  I had the thrill of going on two different trains in the US which reminded me of this program.!!


Oh yes, remember this very well!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 18, 2013, 08:16:57 PM
Really? Seriously, I had no idea color TV was available that early.

Yup, and here it is.  This is exactly the one she bought (and then got rid of few years later because she did not like the "modern" cabinet".

(http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn86/gary8194/CTC-9_Kenbridge595_zps56eefede.gif)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: kathy on March 18, 2013, 08:37:06 PM
I remember when the color TVs were first promoted; what a big thing that was!  We never missed Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color.

And in the ad above, in the bottom right hand corner: remember when the RCA dog and  the "Victrola"? were always in the ads?  I thought it was so cute and always looked for the ad and the cute dog.  A few yrs. ago there was an RCA ad with this dog, the Victrola, and a smaller version of the older dog.  I loved it. 

The ads always read "...his master's voice".  I always looked for this but it has been gone for some time.  Sigh.

kathy   
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 18, 2013, 10:00:41 PM
LOL, lord yes.  "In Living Color" no less.  RCA owned NBC at the time.
My grandmother bought a color tv in 1959 meaning that we had to watch anything that was broadcast in color including:
"Bonanza", "Sing Along with Mitch",(god help us), and "Disney's Wonderful World of Color". 

Oh I liked "Sing Along With Mitch"! :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 19, 2013, 07:44:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig3GcDBjQN4

Remember this ??  I had the thrill of going on two different trains in the US which reminded me of this program.!!


I've only heard of that show, never seen it. I'd like to see some episodes some day. That locomotive is the familiar Sierra Railroad #3.

It seems odd to see "the Skipper" without his "little buddy," Gilligan.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 19, 2013, 07:52:05 AM
The Wild, Wild West is one of the shows where people react with shocked disbelief when I tell them I didn't watch it as a kid. I've assumed it aired opposite something else we watched in my family, but now I've begun to wonder whether it was on after my bedtime.  ;) I can remember having to go to bed on Thursday nights after Daniel Boone was over, and lying in bed listening to Bewitched, which my parents had on the TV downstairs in the living room.  :D

I've enjoyed the few episodes I've seen of The Wild, Wild West on ME-TV, and I hope to see more of them. Robert Conrad is awfully hot in those black leather chaps, and I love watching Ross Martin do all those different characters.  :)

You never saw The Wild Wild West, Jeff?!? The only reason you're not being drummed out of the club is that you were probably watching Tarzan on Friday nights instead.   ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 19, 2013, 07:53:11 AM
Any one else love the Wild Wild West?




OMG, YES!!!


Love it, love it, love it.

Robert Conrad AND Ross Martin?  Be still my heart.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 19, 2013, 09:16:42 AM
You never saw The Wild Wild West, Jeff?!? The only reason you're not being drummed out of the club is that you were probably watching Tarzan on Friday nights instead.   ;)

That's it! Thank you! That solves the mystery! At our house we did, indeed, watch Tarzan, with big Ron Ely in a teeny-weeny loin cloth!

I couldn't say why we--more'n'likely my parents--chose Tarzan. Maybe they considered it more suitable for a kid--me--to watch.  ???

Actually, some of the reading I've done about The Wild, Wild West does indicate that the show became controversial because of its level of violence. I couldn't say that I was aware of it at the time, but apparently there was something of an outcry over TV violence in the late Sixties. TWWW was considered a particular offender. The few episodes I've seen on "nostalgia TV" don't strike me as particularly violent. It's an action show, "James Bond in the Old West." Of course there will be fights. What did people expect?  ???
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 19, 2013, 10:21:11 AM
would you happen to know, was Bonanza filmed in color right from the start (1959)? I did some reading up on the show today, but that was one thing I wasn't able to find out for sure.

I see people have answered you. I didn't know that, but I could swear that I saw
some episodes of this in the not too distant past that were in b&w. Either there
was a reason for that or I am incorrect.

Did you know that some tv shows were filmed in color, but aired in b&w? This was
done because the producer's realized the value of their product would be higher
in syndication as the color tv market grew. But just because they were filmed in
color doesn't mean that people who had a color tv could see them that way
unless the network actually broadcast it that way.  They had to deem it worth it.
I guess local markets had to have different equipment to do it.

For example, I know that the second season of The Lucy Show was filmed in color,
but aired in b&w. They talk about it on the dvd set.

It seems color was standardized on tv in 1967. No show since then has aired as a
b&w series. Has it?  Has one aired that way on cable?  I know that MASH did a
singular "very special episode" that way once.

I wonder what was the last series filmed in b&w?

You were talking about series that first had seasons in b&w and then switched to color.
We should compile a list of those!  I wonder how many that would be? Sometimes you
can find out almost anything like this someone else (like Sheldon Cooper) has already
made such a list on the internet!

I'll start with one:  F Troop.  Season one in b&w and Season 2 in color!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 19, 2013, 10:23:20 AM
If you recall when people were talking about Route 66 that I said:

[Martin Milner] was also a regular on Route 66 with George Maharis, but I have never seen
much of that show. By the way, I also used to see George Maharis at my other job I had.
George Maharis is gay, if you believe renting gay porn -- a lot -- is a good indication.

Well, I was just reading an article about Route 66 and I noticed this:

While researching a (sadly still unpublished) book on the show in the ’80s, author Karen Funk Blocher interviewed both Maharis and producer Herbert B. Leonard and learned that Maharis’ claims (reasons why he left) were more than plausible, but she also learned from Leonard that he feared Maharis’ homosexuality would come up in the press and cause a scandal, contributing to bad blood all around. It would be unfortunate if one of the contributing factors to the demise of such a progressive show was such an unprogressive stance, but such a stance wasn’t uncommon in the pre-Stonewall era.

Entire article is here:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/why-the-mostly-forgotten-route-66-was-one-of-tvs-m,93796/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 19, 2013, 10:48:50 AM

Did you guys like the Quinn Martin shows from the 60's and 70's that were all
done in the distinctive format whereby they set up the series episode and then
it was done in Acts.  Act I through Act IV and then an epilogue?  I was watching
a CSI recently and thinking if that was done now that CSI would have to have
seven or eight acts with all the commercial breaks they now seem to insist on.

Some Quinn Martin shows ("A Quinn Martin production...") that I can recall are:

*I updated it from a complete list I got on wikipedia:

Very successful:
Cannon
The Streets of San Francisco
Twelve O'Clock High
The F.B.I.
The Fugitive
The Invaders
Dan August
Barnaby Jones
Most Wanted
The Untouchables

Don't know these so well:
The New Breed
Premiere
Banyon
The Manhunter
Caribe
Bert D'Angelo/Superstar
Quinn Martin's Tales of the Unexpected
The Runaways
A Man Called Sloane

In order of production the first three were:
The Untouchables
The New Breed
Twelve O'Clock High

I kow that The Untouchables didn't use the Act break format, although it
did have a bumper at the beginning and end of each break. I know that
Twelve O'Clock High had the Act breaks. I don't know what the middle
one is.  Not sure if EVERY show after that did the act break thing, but
it sure made his series unique. I've never heard anyone complain about it.

The Invaders lasted two seasons. It's sense of creepiness and foreboding was
great. It was a premise that was bound not to last very long because you
couldn't very well imagine that, say, after awhile that people wouldn't either
think the main character was crazy or that other people wouldn't have found
out besides him.

Some of the optical effects seem a little cheesy now, but it had some wonderful
episodes. I remember Suzanne Pleshette, Roddy McDowall and Gene Hackman
being in some of the episodes. I don't think any of the retro channels are airing
this now, but both seasons are on dvd. Fox did a two-part miniseries remake of
this show, but it was, alas, not very good.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 19, 2013, 11:55:32 AM
I see people have answered you. I didn't know that, but I could swear that I saw
some episodes of this in the not too distant past that were in b&w. Either there
was a reason for that or I am incorrect.

Maybe there was a technical problem in the broadcasting? But you say your memory is of more than one episode?  ???

Quote
Did you know that some tv shows were filmed in color, but aired in b&w? This was
done because the producer's realized the value of their product would be higher
in syndication as the color tv market grew. But just because they were filmed in
color doesn't mean that people who had a color tv could see them that way
unless the network actually broadcast it that way.  They had to deem it worth it.
I guess local markets had to have different equipment to do it.

I did not know that. That's interesting.

Quote
It seems color was standardized on tv in 1967.

Well, that certainly squares with my memory of approximately when my mom and dad bought our first color console set. I'd ask my dad, but I doubt he'd remember exactly when it was.

Quote
You were talking about series that first had seasons in b&w and then switched to color.
We should compile a list of those!  I wonder how many that would be? Sometimes you
can find out almost anything like this someone else (like Sheldon Cooper) has already
made such a list on the internet!

I'll start with one:  F Troop.  Season one in b&w and Season 2 in color!

I forgot about F Troop! And that's even on my list of series "first seasons" that I'd like to add to my library some day. My memory is that when F Troop went to color, they did away with the theme with the lyrics that explained the set-up of the show:

The end of the Civil War was near
When quite accidentally,
A hero who sneezed
Abruptly seized
Retreat and reversed it to victory.

His medal of honor pleased and thrilled
His proud little family group.
While pinning it on some blood was spilled,
And so it was planned
He'd command
F Troop!


(From memory--honest!--so please pardon any misquotes.)

 ;D

I mentioned Bewitched! and The Beverly Hillbillies, but in strictest honesty I know only that their first seasons were in black and white. I don't know if they went to color as early as the second season, or if it was even later in the run.

I know the first season of Daniel Boone was in black and white and the second season in color because I own both seasons on DVD.

Edit to add: Better add I Dream of Jeannie to that last, too. I recently saw some episodes of that show in black and white, which surprised me because I only remember the color episodes. (Kind of sad to see Larry Hagman so young and handsome, and now he's gone.  :( )
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 19, 2013, 12:11:57 PM
"A Quinn Martin production..."

Now, there's a phrase that takes me back.

Quote
Did you guys like the Quinn Martin shows from the 60's and 70's that were all
done in the distinctive format whereby they set up the series episode and then
it was done in Acts.  Act I through Act IV and then an epilogue?  I was watching
a CSI recently and thinking if that was done now that CSI would have to have
seven or eight acts with all the commercial breaks they now seem to insist on.

Seems to me that a lot of the scripted dramas I watch now still seem to follow that pattern, though some shows (e.g., Law & Order: SVU) dispense with the epilogue:

Prologue
Main Title
(Commercials)
Act I
(Commercials)
Act II
(Commercials)
Act III
(Commercials)
Act IV
(Commercials)
(Sometimes Epilogue)

Some of those shows on the list we watched, others I remember the titles or something about them (e.g., didn't watch The Invaders but remember Roy Thinnes was in it), and others I draw a complete blank.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 19, 2013, 08:33:11 PM
Love THE FUGITIVE!

I'd like to get the whole series for my brother, who REALLY loves it.  (And I could borrow it.)

Quinn Martin certainly was a prolific producer.  He worked his way up at Desilu during the 1950s.  In fact he was married to I LOVE LUCY writer Madelyn Pugh for a while (in the Connecticut shows you'll notice her listed as Madelyn Martin) but he screwed around on her and the marriage collapsed.

Stupid man.  She was attractive.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 20, 2013, 09:24:01 AM
I gotta go google Desilu productions and see all what they were involved with at the time?  I am thinking tons of old shows!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 20, 2013, 09:54:35 AM
I gotta go google Desilu productions and see all what they were involved with at the time?  I am thinking tons of old shows!

Yeah. I seem to remember Desilu was a real big deal in Hollywood at one time.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 20, 2013, 10:42:21 AM

Desilu was responsible for bringing Star Trek, The Untouchables and Mission: Impossible
to TV!  I know some shows that were filmed AT Desilu, like My Favorite Martian and
The Dick Van Dyke Show, but I don't know if Desilu was actually responsible for them.
I've always found it interesting that some network shows are shot at other network's
facilities. Three's Company (ABC), Dancing with the Stars (ABC) and American Idol (FOX)
are all filmed at CBS Television City, for example. (Three's Company actually filmed in three
separate studios all over Los Angeles during it's run. Another studio was Metromedia.
All in the Family did as well (two locations).
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 20, 2013, 06:16:17 PM
Television shows produced or filmed by Desilu

    I Love Lucy
    The Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour
    The Lucy Show
    December Bride
    Private Secretary
    The Ann Sothern Show
    Our Miss Brooks
    The Jack Benny Program
    Make Room for Daddy
    The Life and Legend of Wyatt Earp
    The Real McCoys
    The Andy Griffith Show
    The Dick Van Dyke Show
    My Three Sons
    The Untouchables
    I Spy
    Whirlybirds
    Harrigan and Son
    Mannix
    Family Affair
    Mission Impossible
    Star Trek
    Gomer Pyle, USMC
    That Girl
    Meet McGraw
    Hogan's Heroes

Some of these programs were created and owned outright by Desilu; others were other production companies' programs that Desilu filmed or to which Desilu rented production space.


WOW!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desilu_Productions
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 20, 2013, 08:35:40 PM
I have a very vague memory of Whirlybirds, little more than the title, actually.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 21, 2013, 06:25:01 AM
Any fan of MISSION: IMPOSSIBLE and/or STAR TREK and all their various offshoots should thank Lucy.  As president of Desilu, she was the one who made the final decisions to film the pilots.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 21, 2013, 12:15:38 PM
We owe Lucille Ball a lot!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 22, 2013, 08:23:09 AM
Well, I don't know whether Magnum, P.I., qualifies as "classic," but I had a good laugh from an episode I caught last night on Cozi-TV. The episode was from December 1982 (I looked it up), and the plot involved a woman wanting to deposit her father's ashes on the U.S.S. Arizona. The name they gave the father was "Miles Archer," and the name of the daughter was "Bridget."

Of course, "Miles Archer" was the name of Humphrey Bogart's partner who gets knocked off early on in The Maltese Falcon, and "Bridget" (actually "Brigid") was the name of Mary Astor's character in the same movie.   ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bentgyro on March 22, 2013, 11:25:37 AM
It is a "classic".....That episode was 31yrs old :o
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 22, 2013, 11:45:13 AM
It is a "classic".....That episode was 31yrs old :o

And Tom Selleck sure looked good in a pair of form-fitting pale-blue jeans, with that luxuriant mass of dark chest hair peeking out of his Hawaiian shirt.  ;D

He looked even better in the final scene, where he was playing volleyball in just a little pair of shorts.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 22, 2013, 01:54:59 PM
I worked with a girl that was in love with Tom Selleck, in his Magnum years.  She had poster up all over her office (back when you could put up pictures/posters in your office).  I personally didn't get it.   But then I had pictures of Don Johnson up in mine!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 22, 2013, 02:25:16 PM
I worked with a girl that was in love with Tom Selleck, in his Magnum years.  She had poster up all over her office (back when you could put up pictures/posters in your office).  I personally didn't get it.   But then I had pictures of Don Johnson up in mine!  :D

It's all about the mustache. Either you get it, or you don't.  ;D

(Don Johnson never did anything for me.  ;) )
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: kathy on March 22, 2013, 07:42:50 PM
We owe Lucille Ball a lot!

Oh, yes, but we just can't forget Desi.  He had so much to do with production from the very beginning.

kathy
p.s.  I'm certain The Untouchables (one of my favorites) was a Desilu production.  I heard Robert Stack mention it more than once.   
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 23, 2013, 02:45:32 AM
No, I'd never forget about Desi.

But he was long gone from Desilu by 1966, when Lucy gave the go-ahead to making the Star Trek and Mission:  Impossible pilots.  So the credit for them is all hers.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 23, 2013, 02:47:29 AM
I worked with a girl that was in love with Tom Selleck, in his Magnum years.  She had poster up all over her office (back when you could put up pictures/posters in your office).  I personally didn't get it.   But then I had pictures of Don Johnson up in mine!  :D

I loved Tom AND Don, both of whom were dorky-looking in their 20s but by their mid-thirties were extremely sexy.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 23, 2013, 10:35:46 AM
No, I'd never forget about Desi.

But he was long gone from Desilu by 1966, when Lucy gave the go-ahead to making the Star Trek and Mission:  Impossible pilots.  So the credit for them is all hers.

Lucy was a shrewd business woman. Star Trek may not have lasted many season in its initial run, but when you consider the life the franchise continues to have, I'd say her decision was justified.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 23, 2013, 10:39:24 AM
Here's a good one. I just saw Corporal Klinger of the 4077th M*A*S*H on an episode of The Rebel!  :D  He was not wearing a dress, and he was even riding a horse!  :D

Meanwhile, I'm watching handsome-handsome Guy Madison as the guest star on Wagon Train.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2013, 11:34:07 AM
p.s.  I'm certain The Untouchables (one of my favorites) was a Desilu production.  I heard Robert Stack mention it more than once.  

You are entirely correct. The Untouchables initially aired in April of '59, as a two-part episode of the
Desilu Playhouse series. (This is where episodes of the Lucy/Desi Comedy Hour aired which featured
the hour long shows of Lucy, Ricky, Fred & Ethel.) The Untouchables was such a huge ratings hit that
a series was immediately brought into production. The original two-part episode was re-cut as a movie
and was shown in movie theaters in the U.S. and abroad to gain publicity for the upcoming series that
fall. It was also syndicated to stations across the country after that for years. The first season dvd of
The Untouchables includes the two parter in the "film version," but adds the introductions and original
credits of the Desilu Playhouse version as an added extra.

In 1966, I believe it was, three years after it was off the air, The Lucy Show did an episode
reuniting three of The Untouchables characters, including Robert Stack. Although they didn't
use their character names, they were playing their Untouchables characters, including Robert
Stack, and it was quite amusing. That episode is on one of the dvd's as a bonus extra, too.
SNL in it's second season did a parody of The Untouchables with Dan Aykroyd playing Ness.

I had always heard how violent this show was and at the time it was considered extreme.
Watching them now you may harken back to a "simpler" time and wonder what audiences
would think of today's television programs.

I've always been a fan. I also enjoyed the film. I could never get into the syndicated series
done in the early 90's, though. Did anyone know that a musical was done called "Eliot Ness
in Cleveland?" True!

I attended a Paley Festival event celebrating this series back in the early 90's. Robert Stack
was there as well as some other cast members. They showed an episode and had a panel
discussion.  Was great!
 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2013, 11:47:45 AM
I loved Tom AND Don, both of whom were dorky-looking in their 20s but by their mid-thirties were extremely sexy.

The first R- Rated film I ever saw when I went off to college starred Don Johnson.
I'm going to look up the title now.

***

It was The Harrad Experiment. Don Johnson was probably the first naked person I'd seen
in a film!  Heh! I'll bet the film doesn't hold up. Peyton Place was considered scandalous
when it came out. I thought it was a hoot. Generations now would probably think the
same of Harrad Experiment, which even had a sequel! Me and my friends were particularly
interested in Don Johnson then because one of our classmates looked amazingly like him.
(The guy's name is Paul Murray, if I recall.)

You could see more on the internet now than we ever thought of seeing
back when this film came out. I can't imagine growing up now and seeing
nearly anything you want and many things a young person shouldn't,
whenever you want to online! Back to TV!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on March 23, 2013, 12:02:58 PM
Did anyone know that a musical was done called "Eliot Ness
in Chicago?" True!

LOL, well, "semi" true.  It was "Eliot Ness..In Cleveland". 
zzzzzzz
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2013, 12:03:57 PM
Meanwhile, I'm watching handsome-handsome Guy Madison as the guest star on Wagon Train.  :)

I wish I'd seen that! That guy in photos alone makes me swoon, I can't imagine
what he'd have been like in person. Wonder who coined the phrase "bedroom eyes."

(http://i2.listal.com/image/162696/600full-guy-madison.jpg)

I just wrote this in the above post:
I can't imagine growing up now and seeing nearly anything you want
and many things a young person shouldn't, whenever you want to online!


Well, I googled Guy Madison to find a pic to post here and look what I immediately found:

Click the Not Safe for Work link here:  NSFW (http://andrejkoymasky.com/liv/fam/biom1/madiso02/madi2a.jpg) 

I've not seen many of his movies or his TV series.  What was the Wagon Train episode about?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2013, 12:18:22 PM
Every time someone mentions Guy Madison I spend an hour looking at
his photograph online. Dang you, Jeff.  I mean, thank you Jeff!  LOL!

(http://davelandweb.com/celebs/images/GuyMadison.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 23, 2013, 12:35:03 PM
guy madison caught my eye as well, to say the least.  he never got any really plum roles, but was a durable b-list actor who happened to look good in union blues or on a horse.  i think he may have been in a few military uniforms as well...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2013, 01:49:11 PM

Guy was discovered by his agent Henry Willson at a radio show taping
in Hollywood. Guy was on leave from the navy and in uniform.
(http://farm8.static.flickr.com/7029/6750156205_fd1a35ac0c.jpg)
Willson took him to Selnick who was looking for someone for the small part of a sailor
in the film Since You Went Away. Selznick thought a real life sailor playing the part
would be worth the publicity. Especially a sailor who looked like Guy Madison. So he
filmed the part while still on leave and was back aboard ship. When he got back to
Hollywood after the film had been released, he had received thousands of letters
sent to him while he was in the Pacific aboard ship in the navy and a star was born!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2013, 01:50:06 PM
Guy's brother was also in the navy:

(http://blogs.villagevoice.com/dailymusto/Guy%20Madison%20and%20brother.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2013, 01:52:30 PM
Okay, I have to share more photos (which I never saw before until today!)
of that TV actor from the classic TV series Wild Bill Hickok (keeping it on topic)!

(http://www.guymadison.com/images/396_RobertGuyon_Bike_Teen.01.jpg)

Guy as a teenager! (His name was Bill Mosely. His agent gave him the
name "Guy" as in "The guy  every girl would want." Madison came
from a Dolly Madison cake truck that his agent happened to see.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2013, 01:58:26 PM

(http://www.guymadison.com/images/396_RoryandGuyFishing-07.jpg)
Guy's daughter says that Rory Calhoun and her father were best friends.
Others say that they were lovers and there's a lot of things to back that
notion up. Here they are on one of their frequent "fishin' trips!"
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2013, 02:01:35 PM

Was this his daughter's license plate or Rory Calhoun's, lol!
(http://www.guymadison.com/images/396_GUYMAD02.jpg)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 23, 2013, 02:08:12 PM
Holy cow, what did I start by bringing up Guy Madison?  :D

I didn't save the link, but one day, when I was bored not busy at work, I found a very nice tribute website maintained by his daughter (who, incidentally, lost a son in either Iraq or Afghanistan, unfortunately I don't remember which). I can't imagine the site would be too difficult to locate, not if I could find it.  :D

He must have been awfully young when some of those photos were taken. Henry Willson certainly had an eye for prime young beef.  8)  ;D

In the Wagon Train episode he played some who had been at Shiloh with Major Adams and turned out to be a thief and con-man. This being a show from before 1960, he is redeemed in the end by love for a pretty girl.  ::)

As Jack said, he did look good in Union blues. I remember seeing him (on TV, of course) in a B-grade horse opera called The Command, where he played the regimental surgeon who ended up being the ranking surviving officer and had to lead the troops safely through hostile Indian country. Must have been some time in the early Eighties that I saw the movie, but I still remember how good Madison looked in that cavalry uniform.  :)

What a shame he didn't become a bigger star.  :(  What a handsome, handsome man he was.  :)

ETA: Looks like Lyle found the web site.  :D


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2013, 02:08:40 PM

Wild Bill Hickok

(http://www.guymadison.com/images/396_CowboyGuy-01.jpg)
(http://www.guymadison.com/images/274_Picture_005.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2013, 02:11:10 PM

(http://www.guymadison.com/images/831_GuyinAZ.jpg)

Look at this photo of Guy in his 60's. Man oh man! Still the looker!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 23, 2013, 02:11:28 PM
Well, I googled Guy Madison to find a pic to post here and look what I immediately found:

Click the Not Safe for Work link here:  NSFW (http://andrejkoymasky.com/liv/fam/biom1/madiso02/madi2a.jpg) 

 :o  Mother of God!

LOL!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2013, 02:12:08 PM

One more:

(http://www.guymadison.com/images/396_GuywithJalopy-03.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 23, 2013, 02:17:43 PM
(http://www.guymadison.com/images/396_RoryandGuyFishing-07.jpg)
Guy's daughter says that Rory Calhoun and her father were best friends.
Others say that they were lovers and there's a lot of things to back that
notion up. Here they are on one of their frequent "fishin' trips!"

Now, shall we get started on Rory Calhoun, too?  ;D

Anybody know anything about a Western TV series Calhoun starred in called The Texan? I never heard of it until I came across it in the Critic"s Choice Video catalog. (Apparently it only lasted a season or two and debuted the year I was born.  ::) )

Lucky Betty Grable ends up with Calhoun in the movie How to Marry a Millionaire.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 23, 2013, 02:20:17 PM
(http://www.guymadison.com/images/831_GuyinAZ.jpg)

Look at this photo of Guy in his 60's. Man oh man! Still the looker!



Still strikingly handsome even in his 60s.  :)

(I love the shirt and the boots!  ;D )
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2013, 02:21:45 PM
Holy cow, what did I start by bringing up Guy Madison?  :D

Yes, please don't do it again, I have things to do!   ;D

found the web site.

Yes, one of many!

Henry Willson certainly had an eye for prime young beef.  8)  ;D

And speaking of that NSFW pic I linked to, in Willson's biography, it is stated that Willson had
dozens of naked photos of Guy Madison, mostly taken at his home and on the lawn, that he
kept in an album in his house that many people viewed. Willson would tell people the story of
keeping tabs on some of his stable of stars and talks about one night following Guy Madison to
Rory Calhoun's place (during a thunderstorm, no less) and finding them going at it in the back
seat of the car parked in the driveway.

And I wonder what happened to that photo album?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 23, 2013, 02:25:14 PM
(http://www.guymadison.com/images/831_GuyinAZ.jpg)

Look at this photo of Guy in his 60's. Man oh man! Still the looker!



Wow! That's for sure!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 23, 2013, 02:25:34 PM
And speaking of that NSFW pic I linked to, in Willson's biography, it is stated that Willson had
dozens of naked photos of Guy Madison, mostly taken at his home and on the lawn, that he
kept in an album in his house that many people viewed. Willson would tell people the story of
keeping tabs on some of his stable of stars and talks about one night following Guy Madison to
Rory Calhoun's place (during a thunderstorm, no less) and finding them going at it in the back
seat of the car parked in the driveway.

And I wonder what happened to that photo album?

Imagine what that album would be worth today!

Hmm. Guy Madison and Rory Calhoun going at it. ...

I think I need some air!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2013, 02:29:09 PM
Now, shall we get started on Rory Calhoun, too?  ;D

I never heard of that TV series The Texan. The only thing I knew about Rory Calhoun for
many many years was that he was a guest star on the most disturbing ever episode of
Gilliigan's Island.

(http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/762/rc3.JPG)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2013, 02:53:43 PM

Speaking of changing names, is that your real name Jeff Wrangler?  It sounds
like a name that Henry Willson would have come up with back in the day!

He tried Troy Donahue on a few other boys before it finally stuck with--Troy Donahue. The
iffiest name he came up with was for a gas station attendant he had his eye on who worked
near MGM studios whom he named Race Gentry. He looks a little reminiscent of Ricky Nelson.
(http://therockhudsonproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Race-Gentry.jpg)
He got the boy a few good jobs, but "Race" (born John Papiro) was wary of big bad Hollywood,
according to the book, and decided it was not the life for him!  Hmmm.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2013, 02:55:32 PM

John Papiro aka Race Gentry aka John Gentry did do a film with
Rock Hudson. (I wonder if he did anything else?)
(http://therockhudsonproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Rock-Hudson-and-Race-Gentry-candid-one.jpg)

He came back in a few years and did some TV work under the name John Gentry.
Willson tried the name Gentry out again in the 60's on an actor (Chance Gentry),
but to llittle avail.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 23, 2013, 03:10:36 PM
Speaking of changing names, is that your real name Jeff Wrangler?  It sounds
like a name that Henry Willson would have come up with back in the day!

Perhaps you knew my big brother, Jack Wrangler?  ;D

We were both named for a pair of pants. ...  8)

Quote
The iffiest name he came up with was for a gas station attendant he had his eye on who worked near MGM studios whom he named Race Gentry. He looks a little reminiscent of Ricky Nelson. (http://therockhudsonproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Race-Gentry.jpg) He got the boy a few good jobs, but "Race" (born John Papiro) was wary of big bad Hollywood, according to the book, and decided it was not the life for him!  Hmmm.

Kid was smarter than he looks. ...  8)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 23, 2013, 03:24:25 PM
The first R- Rated film I ever saw when I went off to college starred Don Johnson.
I'm going to look up the title now.

***

It was The Harrad Experiment. Don Johnson was probably the first naked person I'd seen
in a film!  Heh! I'll bet the film doesn't hold up. Peyton Place was considered scandalous
when it came out. I thought it was a hoot. Generations now would probably think the
same of Harrad Experiment, which even had a sequel! Me and my friends were particularly
interested in Don Johnson then because one of our classmates looked amazingly like him.
(The guy's name is Paul Murray, if I recall.)

You could see more on the internet now than we ever thought of seeing
back when this film came out. I can't imagine growing up now and seeing
nearly anything you want and many things a young person shouldn't,
whenever you want to online! Back to TV!



Of course being obsessed with Don, I did look up the move (many times  :-\) and would love to own the movie.


I think he was cute when he was young (but as has been mentioned) he got better with age!


We can't sneak Miami Vice into the classic TV, it was early 80's, too bad - I could do a whole category on that show alone!   It really was life changing for me, and looking back I am not sure why - just the right show at the right time I guess.


(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/Don-Johnson_zpsf9253150.jpg)

I still just hear his voice and swoon, and swoon is the only word to describe it!  :P


But it wasn't just Don (although I did go on to watch Nash Bridges) it was Sonny Crockett that really did it for me!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: kathy on March 23, 2013, 08:35:21 PM
LOL, well, "semi" true.  It was "Eliot Ness..In Cleveland". 
zzzzzzz

I do remember a 2-hr. TV movie about Eliot Ness in Cleveland.  There was a series of murders and the killer was not found.  Bob Stack portrayed Ness again. 
He had a very good idea who the killer was but because he came from a prominent family and lots of $$$$, Eliot was never able to get this out to the public.  Yeah - what else is new?

kathy
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: kathy on March 23, 2013, 08:46:27 PM
You are entirely correct. The Untouchables initially aired in April of '59, as a two-part episode of the
Desilu Playhouse series. (This is where episodes of the Lucy/Desi Comedy Hour aired which featured
the hour long shows of Lucy, Ricky, Fred & Ethel.) The Untouchables was such a huge ratings hit that
a series was immediately brought into production. The original two-part episode was re-cut as a movie
and was shown in movie theaters in the U.S. and abroad to gain publicity for the upcoming series that
fall. It was also syndicated to stations across the country after that for years. The first season dvd of
The Untouchables includes the two parter in the "film version," but adds the introductions and original
credits of the Desilu Playhouse version as an added extra.

In 1966, I believe it was, three years after it was off the air, The Lucy Show did an episode
reuniting three of The Untouchables characters, including Robert Stack. Although they didn't
use their character names, they were playing their Untouchables characters, including Robert
Stack, and it was quite amusing. That episode is on one of the dvd's as a bonus extra, too.
SNL in it's second season did a parody of The Untouchables with Dan Aykroyd playing Ness.

I had always heard how violent this show was and at the time it was considered extreme.
Watching them now you may harken back to a "simpler" time and wonder what audiences
would think of today's television programs.

I've always been a fan. I also enjoyed the film. I could never get into the syndicated series
done in the early 90's, though. Did anyone know that a musical was done called "Eliot Ness
in Cleveland?" True!

I attended a Paley Festival event celebrating this series back in the early 90's. Robert Stack
was there as well as some other cast members. They showed an episode and had a panel
discussion.  Was great!
 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Lyle, thx for confirming my statement re The Untouchables as a Desilu production.  I remember so many of the things you mention in your post (practically all; but not the "musical".
I think Bob Stack was my very first crush.  I always watched him.  

kathy
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 24, 2013, 12:45:43 AM
I came across this on YouTube.

10 RARE "LOST" CLASSIC '60s TV THEMES
http://youtu.be/cqx-D0440pA

The only one I vaguely remember is "Suspense Theater".
The rest of them, I don't have a clue!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 24, 2013, 12:47:14 AM
The first R- Rated film I ever saw when I went off to college starred Don Johnson.
I'm going to look up the title now.

***

It was The Harrad Experiment. Don Johnson was probably the first naked person I'd seen
in a film!  Heh! I'll bet the film doesn't hold up. Peyton Place was considered scandalous
when it came out. I thought it was a hoot. Generations now would probably think the
same of Harrad Experiment, which even had a sequel! Me and my friends were particularly
interested in Don Johnson then because one of our classmates looked amazingly like him.
(The guy's name is Paul Murray, if I recall.)

You could see more on the internet now than we ever thought of seeing
back when this film came out. I can't imagine growing up now and seeing
nearly anything you want and many things a young person shouldn't,
whenever you want to online! Back to TV!


I actually remember this movie, Lyle!
And watched it! :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 24, 2013, 12:47:51 AM
Every time someone mentions Guy Madison I spend an hour looking at
his photograph online. Dang you, Jeff.  I mean, thank you Jeff!  LOL!

(http://davelandweb.com/celebs/images/GuyMadison.jpg)

Yeah........ ditto, Jeff! ::)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 24, 2013, 12:56:39 AM
I love 's commercials too!!

http://youtu.be/_yWTsFVkrFc
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: moreta on March 24, 2013, 02:25:27 PM

Well, I googled Guy Madison to find a pic to post here and look what I immediately found:


Sadly, this pic just reminds me of the episode of Seinfeld where George got caught after a swim.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 24, 2013, 02:57:03 PM
 
LOL!  Good reference/comparison!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 24, 2013, 04:39:36 PM
I came across this on YouTube.

10 RARE "LOST" CLASSIC '60s TV THEMES
http://youtu.be/cqx-D0440pA

The only one I vaguely remember is "Suspense Theater".
The rest of them, I don't have a clue!!


I don't remember any of the themes, though I remembered some of the titles (e.g., Hawk, T.H.E. Cat) and certainly some of the actors. Some of those themes were nice, jazzy pieces.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 24, 2013, 04:50:54 PM
I don't remember any of the themes, though I remembered some of the titles (e.g., Hawk, T.H.E. Cat) and certainly some of the actors. Some of those themes were nice, jazzy pieces.

I caught the jazzy sounds as well, Jeff. I guess it was the times, as that was a decade where jazz really came into it's own.
Well at least for me!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 26, 2013, 09:13:15 AM
I came across this on YouTube.

10 RARE "LOST" CLASSIC '60s TV THEMES
http://youtu.be/cqx-D0440pA

The only one I vaguely remember is "Suspense Theater".
The rest of them, I don't have a clue!!



We could almost have a TV song category!   There have been some great ones, there must be a CD or two out.


http://ca.ign.com/articles/2006/05/05/top-50-tv-theme-songs-of-all-time?page=1

I couldn't even pick a favourite, maybe a tie between the Brady Bunch and the Partridge Family.

My sons would pick Fresh Prince of Bel air for sure.


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 26, 2013, 12:42:21 PM

We could almost have a TV song category!

It could be split into "themes with lyrics" and "themes without lyrics."

Quote
I couldn't even pick a favourite, maybe a tie between the Brady Bunch and the Partridge Family.

My sons would pick Fresh Prince of Bel air for sure.

I don't think I could settle on a single one favorite. Personal favorites of themes with lyrics are The Beverly Hillbillies, Petticoat Junction, and Green Acres (all Paul Henning comedies, and I'd bet the themes are all by the same person or persons). Favorite themes without lyrics are Bonanza, Hawaill 5-0, and Magnum, P.I.

And of course favorite doesn't mean that I don't know by heart the words to a number of other themes with lyrics.  ::)

In another context, I once had a discussion with a friend where I surmised that The Lone Ranger had probably ruined the William Tell Overture for opera-goers. She confirmed that she had been in the audience for a performance of the Rossini opera, and when the overture got to the part used for The Lone Ranger (I think technically it's called the March of the Swiss Soldiers, or something like that), she noticed a lot of otherwise sophisticated opera buffs start to smile and squirm in their seats.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: moreta on March 26, 2013, 09:43:31 PM

We could almost have a TV song category!   There have been some great ones, there must be a CD or two out.


Hands down best tv theme song, Maverick is the name
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 27, 2013, 08:48:46 AM
Check out this list, this one is a keeper (I just bookmarked it).  Funny I think even some of the ones that were instrumental, did actually have lyrics, sometimes we just never heard the lyrics!



http://www.boyculture.com/boy_culture/2013/01/historys-50-best-tv-theme-songs-my-list.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 27, 2013, 11:49:45 AM

Despite what that link reads, the list is 150 themes!

One can quibble about personal favorites and what is on the list (of 150!), but
"77 Sunset Strip" should've been on there!

Many of the pics chosen for the list are a hoot as well!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 27, 2013, 11:59:54 AM
sometimes we just never heard the lyrics!

I have a recording, by Peggy Lee of all people, singing the lyrics to Bewitched!

Bewitched, bewitched, you've got me in your spell.
Bewitched, bewitched, you know your craft so well.

Before I knew what you were doing I looked in your eyes.
That brand of woo that you've been brew-in' took me by surprise.

You witch, you witch, one thing that's for sure,
That stuff you pitch - just hasn't got a cure.

My heart was under lock and key, but somehow it got unhitched.
I never thought my heart could be had.
But now I'm caught and I'm kind of glad to be Bewitched.
Bewitched-witched.


Several years ago I went to a concert of TV Theme music at the Hollywood Bowl.
Mary Tyler Moore and Dick Van Dyke performed, for the first time they said they
had done it, the lyrics to The Dick Van Dyke Show theme!

So you think that you've got troubles?
Well, trouble's a bubble,
So tell old Mr. Trouble to "Get lost!".

Why not hold your head up high and,
Stop cryin', start tryin',
And don't forget to keep your fingers crossed.

When you find the joy of livin'
Is lovin' and givin'
You'll be there when the winning dice are tossed.

A smile is just a frown that's turned upside down,
So smile, and that frown will defrost.
And don't forget to keep your fingers crossed!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 27, 2013, 12:13:07 PM
Going through all 150 of those, I probably should change my vote to the theme song from Miami Vice.    And "Thank you for being a Friend" (from Golden Girls) is a keeper, my son and his wife played that at their wedding reception!  :D


I can't believe the lyrics you posted Lyle, I had no clue and they are brilliant!  :D  I am going to have them stuck in my head all day now.

I was thinking more along the lines of the Andy Griffith show, wasn't it just whistling?   But I have read the lyrics!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 27, 2013, 04:42:43 PM
What Classic Sitcoms Taught Us About Gay Rights
by Kevin Fallon Mar 27, 2013 11:40 AM EDT

Forget Hillary Clinton and Rob Portman. The Golden Girls’ Sophia, All in the Family’s Archie, and a slew of classic sitcom stars were the real gay-rights crusaders.


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/27/what-classic-sitcoms-taught-us-about-gay-rights.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 27, 2013, 09:19:31 PM
Loved this, Bubba.  I have seen every one of these clips, except the Gimme a Break! one.

Love your avatar, too. They were never lovelier than here.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 28, 2013, 05:50:03 PM
if we are going for classic, and i have not yet checked the list, the one that immediately popped into mind was RAWHIDE, frankie lane's contribution.. but that's for us old people...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 28, 2013, 07:22:32 PM
if we are going for classic, and i have not yet checked the list, the one that immediately popped into mind was RAWHIDE, frankie lane's contribution.. but that's for us old people...

That was a great theme.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: moreta on March 30, 2013, 01:22:25 PM
Check out this list, this one is a keeper (I just bookmarked it).  Funny I think even some of the ones that were instrumental, did actually have lyrics, sometimes we just never heard the lyrics!



http://www.boyculture.com/boy_culture/2013/01/historys-50-best-tv-theme-songs-my-list.html

Terrific List, but this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Q3orQhEcA&feature=youtu.be will always remind me of Jackie
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 30, 2013, 02:31:45 PM
Terrific List, but this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Q3orQhEcA&feature=youtu.be will always remind me of Jackie

Didn't watch TV much at that time, I was unaware that this was even a TV theme!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bentgyro on March 30, 2013, 03:12:04 PM
if we are going for classic, and i have not yet checked the list, the one that immediately popped into mind was RAWHIDE, frankie lane's contribution.. but that's for us old people...

The Blues Brothers had to sing it over and over again!
And Clint Eastwood was such a pretty boy! :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 31, 2013, 11:48:04 AM

On Friday, a friend and I were talking about the lack of Easter themed tv show episodes.
We could only come up with 2-3. Can anyone think of TV shows that had Easter episodes?

We wondered why. It's possibly because the tv seasons are usually over by then, or used
to be. I mean, is there any 4th of July themed episodes, either? Maybe it's too religious?
Christmas can be thought of in so many different ways for example, most of them nothing
to do with religion. And Santa is a person. Depicting a rabbit seems too unlikely and it is
unbelievable in many ways.

Seems like Bewitched might have given that a go, but they never did. They did Leprechauins
(twice), tooth fairies and even the Loch Ness monster after all!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 31, 2013, 11:53:46 AM

Coincidentally:
A friend and I were exchanging emails just now and I discovered I missed the last two
episodes of Raising Hope, which we both like, because Fox decided to air the season
finales on Thursday last week and I didn't know that, so I'll have to catch the reruns.
But, he said one of them was an Easter episode and the other one a Mother's Day
episode! That seems to be a theme this year because not only did they do the standard
Halloween and Christmas episodes, they also did Thanksgiving, Valentine's Day and the
funniest episode of the season--an Arbor Day episode!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: moreta on March 31, 2013, 09:04:20 PM
Coincidentally:
A friend and I were exchanging emails just now and I discovered I missed the last two
episodes of Raising Hope, which we both like, because Fox decided to air the season
finales on Thursday last week and I didn't know that, so I'll have to catch the reruns.


I love this show! Half Malcolm in the Middle, Half Roseanne, and MawMaw is awsome!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 01, 2013, 02:01:29 PM
On Friday, a friend and I were talking about the lack of Easter themed tv show episodes.
We could only come up with 2-3. Can anyone think of TV shows that had Easter episodes?

We wondered why. It's possibly because the tv seasons are usually over by then, or used
to be. I mean, is there any 4th of July themed episodes, either? Maybe it's too religious?
Christmas can be thought of in so many different ways for example, most of them nothing
to do with religion. And Santa is a person. Depicting a rabbit seems too unlikely and it is
unbelievable in many ways.

Seems like Bewitched might have given that a go, but they never did. They did Leprechauins
(twice), tooth fairies and even the Loch Ness monster after all!

Easter is probably too religious, though it does seem odd that Bewitched! never conjured up the Easter Bunny. They conjured up just about everyone and everything else.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 01, 2013, 03:30:23 PM
I don't know about any of the classic TV shows, but I am thinking a show like Seventh Heaven, where the Father was a Minister, you would think they would have done it!


Actually if you google that, it is surprising what comes up, the first one was Bonaza!  :D

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0529520/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 01, 2013, 03:38:08 PM
http://www.insp.com/shows/the-waltons-the-easter-story/


And the Waltons, should have known!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: kathy on April 01, 2013, 06:41:42 PM
if we are going for classic, and i have not yet checked the list, the one that immediately popped into mind was RAWHIDE, frankie lane's contribution.. but that's for us old people...


I don't think anyone ever sang a western theme song like Frankie.  Both for films and TV, he was just great.

kathy :) 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 01, 2013, 07:22:11 PM
This afternoon I caught an episode of The Wild Wild West that was an absolute hoot! A baby elephant, and Ruta Lee in a black wig playing a Gypsy!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 03, 2013, 08:16:45 AM
Even in my own mind, my topic here doesn't qualify as "Classic TV," only, perhaps, as "oh-my-God-that's-almost-20-years-ago TV," but it doesn't really seem to fit any other thread, so I'm putting this here.

I've begun to watch on DVD a series that apparently lasted only one season, 1994-95, and I have no memory of even hearing about it back then, much less watching it. It's called Hawkeye, and it's kind of like fan fiction for fans of The Last of the Mohicans. In fact, I'm sure it must have been somebody's idea/attempt to capitalize on the Daniel Day-Lewis movie (which I like a lot), which came out a couple of years before this series. Moreover, I've watched the DD-L film often enough that I've recognized footage from it (misty mountains, soldiers marching) in Hawkeye. Plus, the series score features the same kind of Celtic-inflected music that was used in TLotM. The series might even be considered a sort-of prequel to TLotM, since each episode opens with the date 1755, and TLotM takes place in 1757. Col. Munro has appeared as a recurring character in the series, and in the last episode I watched he mentioned having two daughters. ...

Hawkeye stars manly Lee Horsley as the title character. His leading lady is none other than Wonder Woman herself, Lynda Carter. Chingachgook is played by Rodney A. Grant; there is no Uncas. The set-up is this. Lynda Carter plays a woman named Elizabeth Shields. She accompanies her husband William to the fictional Fort Bennington, where William Shields is to run the trading post. The fort is commanded by William Shields' younger brother, whose commission in the British Army William purchased for him (you could do that sort of thing back then). There is bad blood over family inheritance between the brothers, and shortly after his arrival at Fort Bennington, William Shields is captured by Indians and apparently handed over to the French as a POW. Elizabeth Shields sticks around to run the trading post and attempt to secure her husband's release, with the assistance of Hawkeye. So far as the episodes I've seen, Hawkeye doesn't seem to live anywhere, though mention has been made of his living with the Delawares; he just seems to hang around Fort Bennington. I might be wrong but based on what I've seen so far, in this version Chingachgook seems to be a Delaware rather than a Mohican.

I've enjoyed the four episodes I've watched so far (there are 22 in all). I stop short, however, of recommending the series because personally I'll watch just about anything set on the 18th-century frontier  ;D, and especially during the so-called French and Indian War, when the "frontier" was hardly more than 100 miles west and north of where I'm sitting as I write this, so I don't consider myself an impartial judge. Serious fans of TLotM might object to this series; I don't. So far I've noticed only a couple of bone-headed anachronisms in dialogue, and I've been impressed that the production values seem to have been pretty high, with props, costumes, sets, and so forth pretty accurate.

Just passing this on for anyone else who might be interested.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 03, 2013, 10:07:17 AM
http://www.wonderland-site.com/html/hawk.htm


You know I was about to say I didn't remember it, but looking at the pictures in that link above, I do remember it.


And Lee Horsely, he was also Matt Houston!


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 03, 2013, 11:40:13 AM
http://www.wonderland-site.com/html/hawk.htm

You know I was about to say I didn't remember it, but looking at the pictures in that link above, I do remember it.

And Lee Horsely, he was also Matt Houston!

Yes, he was! People used to talk about the lingering crotch shot that was part of the opening sequence for Matt Houston.  ;D

It seems  he's had several series, none of which seem to last terribly long--Matt Houston was probably the longest--but he's still working.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on April 03, 2013, 11:51:36 AM
Yes, he was! People used to talk about the lingering crotch shot that was part of the opening sequence for Matt Houston.  ;D

It seems  he's had several series, none of which seem to last terribly long--Matt Houston was probably the longest--but he's still working.
He is in "Django Unchained" 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 03, 2013, 01:51:20 PM
He is in "Django Unchained"  

I was surprised when I saw that, when I looked Lee Horsley up at IMDb. That's one reason why I mentioned that he's still working.

I know I shouldn't say this. I'm embarrassed for myself by my own feelings, but I've always rather thought of Lee Horsley as sort of "Tom Selleck Lite." But, OTOH, based on the episodes I've seen so far, I'd say he's quite right for the role of Hawkeye in this series. He's quiet and reserved, a man of few words. Tom Selleck would have overwhelmed the part. His personality is too big for it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 05, 2013, 09:12:36 PM
This evening I saw the lovely early Bewitched! Christmas episode where Sam took Darrin and a very young Billy Mumy to the North Pole to meet Santa Claus. I wish I could have gone with them!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on April 06, 2013, 06:23:46 AM
What station was this rerun on, Jeff?  Just curious.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 06, 2013, 09:04:10 AM
This evening I saw the lovely early Bewitched! Christmas episode where Sam took Darrin and a very young Billy Mumy to the North Pole to meet Santa Claus. I wish I could have gone with them!  :D

Awww that is so sweet!!  I remember that one well and yes I wish I could have went as well!!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: moreta on April 07, 2013, 09:37:36 AM
Even in my own mind, my topic here doesn't qualify as "Classic TV," only, perhaps, as "oh-my-God-that's-almost-20-years-ago TV," but it doesn't really seem to fit any other thread, so I'm putting this here.

I've begun to watch on DVD a series that apparently lasted only one season, 1994-95, and I have no memory of even hearing about it back then, much less watching it. It's called Hawkeye, and it's kind of like fan fiction for fans of The Last of the Mohicans. In fact, I'm sure it must have been somebody's idea/attempt to capitalize on the Daniel Day-Lewis movie (which I like a lot), which came out a couple of years before this series. Moreover, I've watched the DD-L film often enough that I've recognized footage from it (misty mountains, soldiers marching) in Hawkeye. Plus, the series score features the same kind of Celtic-inflected music that was used in TLotM. The series might even be considered a sort-of prequel to TLotM, since each episode opens with the date 1755, and TLotM takes place in 1757. Col. Munro has appeared as a recurring character in the series, and in the last episode I watched he mentioned having two daughters. ...

Just passing this on for anyone else who might be interested.



I really liked this show when it was in first run syndication.  I get really frustrated that shows like this are not given the chance to find an audience.  Then there are other shows which spend 2 to 3 years in the bottom 50 being nursed along and are now "classics" cough:seinfeld:cough, 

Did anyone ever see a show called "the Young Rebels"?  It was set during the Revolutionary war.  It also only lasted a season.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 07, 2013, 01:59:00 PM
Did anyone ever see a show called "the Young Rebels"?  It was set during the Revolutionary war.  It also only lasted a season.

I remember The Young Rebels! I was, er, very young when it aired.  ::) I think I remember them doing an episode (inspired by fact) about how they got the Liberty Bell out of Philadelphia and hid it from the British?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 07, 2013, 02:04:05 PM
One thing that really interests me in revisiting these "classic" shows, now that I have the perspective of years,  ::) is seeing actors from one show in other roles, often in earlier shows. Just this afternoon I saw "Dr. Bellows" from I Dream of Jeannie in an episode of I Love Lucy. And in another episode--the one where a teenage girl has a crush on Ricky, and Lucy tries to teach one of the girl's classmates to dance--the teenage classmate looked familiar. I made a point to pay close attention to the credits. I didn't catch the name of the girl, whose voice sounded familiar (like, from cartoons, maybe?), but the reason the boy looked familiar was because he was a very young Richard Crenna! (They called him Dick in the credits.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 08, 2013, 06:59:34 AM
What station was this rerun on, Jeff?  Just curious.

I'm sorry! Somehow I missed this post and never answered your question. My bad!  :(

I'm getting Bewitched! and I Dream of Jeannie and a whole bunch of other classic shows, including The Rebel and Wagon Train and Gunsmoke and Bonanza and The Rifleman and The Big Valley and The Wild, Wild West on something called ME-TV. Locally the station bills itself as Philadelphia-Allentown, and lots of its commercials are for businesses in the Allentown-Lehigh Valley-Reading, PA, region.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 08, 2013, 07:04:10 AM
That's it! Thank you! That solves the mystery! At our house we did, indeed, watch Tarzan, with big Ron Ely in a teeny-weeny loin cloth!

Quoting this because one of the episodes of Hawkeye that I watched last night on DVD featured none other than Ron Ely. By 1994 he was considerably heavier in face and body than he was in his Tarzan years.

Somebody once said, Gravity gets us all in the end.  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on April 08, 2013, 07:54:23 AM
The girl in "The Young Fans" episode of I LOVE LUCY (originally broadcast February 25, 1952, the 20th episode of the series) was Janet Waldo, who indeed was the voice of Judy Jetson.

Interesting fact:  when she filmed the I LOVE LUCY episode, she was pregnant.

Crenna was billed as Dick until he showed a more manly side (and how!) in THE REAL McCOYS.   Henceforth he was billed as Richard.

I love MeTV!  Just wish I had cable.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 08, 2013, 08:13:14 AM
The girl in "The Young Fans" episode of I LOVE LUCY (originally broadcast February 25, 1952, the 20th episode of the series) was Janet Waldo, who indeed was the voice of Judy Jetson.

Tell you what, I would have guessed Judy Jetson.  :D

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Crenna was billed as Dick until he showed a more manly side (and how!) in THE REAL McCOYS.   Henceforth he was billed as Richard.

I remember The Real McCoys, too, especially Grandpa (Walter Brennan). I didn't look him up, but Richard Crenna must have been awfully young when he filmed that Lucy episode. Yikes! 1952! He matured into a very good-looking, manly guy.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 08, 2013, 10:50:01 AM
I love MeTV!  Just wish I had cable.

Most of ME-TV's networks don't air on cable, it's over the air.  In your area check out
one of these and see if you get either of them:

Gainesville                  WYME-CA     9.2          New Age Media
Tampa/St. Petersburg WFLA-TV      8.2          Media General
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 08, 2013, 11:38:49 AM
Did anyone ever see a show called "the Young Rebels"? It was
set during the Revolutionary war.  It also only lasted a season.

Yes, I do remember watching this series.  I remember that Brandon De Wilde played
Nathan Hale in one episode.  My recollection is that it was on in the late 60's and was
supposed to be thought of as a corollory to the "young rebels" of the late 60's and the
like who were active trying to "change America' at the time. Something different, that's
for sure. The only other series I can think of that even got close to portraying anything in
this time period was Danile Boone on occasion.

I have often wondered why Americans are not interested in this time period. There's very
few movies about it and the ones there are are mostly not very good. I mean, there's not
even a movie about Paul Revere. Really? The most recent thing I can think of to detail this
period at all was the John Adams mini-series. And TV series?  Curious.

Now I am going to look up a few things about The Young Rebels.

--Ok, it was on a bit later than I thought -- 1970-71. A synopsis I read says that "The series was
supposed to allow the youthful and social rebels of the late 1960's and early 1970's, or those who
fantasized along with them, to relate to the American revolution.

--They must have really wanted to appeal to a very young audience as it had an odd time slot, in
my opinion, Sundays at 7pm.

--It only aired 15 episodes! (And yet three of us remember it!)

--The lead character was played by Rick Ely. I wonder if he was realted to Ron Ely?

--On the Sunday night schedule this show aired opposite Wild Kingdom and the Wonderful
World of Disney on NBC and Lassie and Hogan's Heroes on CBS.

--Another item reads:  "Rick Ely and Philippe Forquet became teenage idols and were widely featured
in movie and fan magazines. Despite extensive promotion and a large (by television standards of the era)
production budget, The Young Rebels failed to garner enough of an audience and was canceled at midseason."

I do wonder what these episodes would be like to view today.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 08, 2013, 12:06:20 PM

I found a few photos from it:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BKlAHiz5MLU/TkGiMt2JZjI/AAAAAAABHX0/9wbDEZucLt0/s320/Rebels.jpg)

Alex Henteloff (his character idoloized Ben Franklin and he resembles him)!
Lou Gossett was in it!
Rick Ely on the right.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 08, 2013, 12:07:16 PM

(http://cdn101.iofferphoto.com/img3/item/512/194/652/the-young-rebels-afa7.jpg)

The girl was Hilarie Thompson.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 08, 2013, 12:11:01 PM

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_S9hWVfjAHuY/S15-Pw5nXGI/AAAAAAAABeo/iPKaaAVI80E/s320/10946438_tml.jpg)

Philippe Forquet

Apparently places like IOFFER and such have people selling bootleg copies (dvd) of
this series episodes. Buyer beware, but you can find some things you'd never get
ahold of otherwise.  I also noticed a brief youtube clip and an entire episode on
David Soul's website, so I'm assuming he was in one of the episodes.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 08, 2013, 12:47:26 PM

Does anyone remember that ABC, in an effort to grab some ratings opposite the
powerhouse ratings draws of Gunsmoke, Lucy and Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In, tried
programming two 45 minute programs from 7:30 to 9pm on Mondays during the
1969-70 season.

The first was a Hullabaloo or Shindig type show called The Music Scene. It was followed
by a drama in the Lord of the Flies mold called The New People. A society formed on a
South Pacific atoll when the plane crashes and the people have to form a new society
together. It was an abandoned military station or something so they had buildings and
various supplies.  I can see how a music show could be fit into a 45 minute block, but
I wondered how satisfying a 45 minute drama would be or how difficult it might have
been to write it, since it was out of the box. Both shows only lasted a half-season.

Interestingly, at that time Lily Tomlin chose to be on "The Music Scene" rather than
Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In, which was #1 in the ratings. (?) When The Music Scene
was cancelled she then agreed to be on Laugh-In which rocketed her to stardom almost
immediately. Her first episode was the last week of Dec. 1969.

Interestingly, I see that this very short-lived series has had a dvd release. Two volumes
entitled MUSIC SCENE: Best of 1969-70 Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 that included some complete
episodes and a raft of individual performance clips was released. Trippy!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 08, 2013, 02:10:22 PM
Most of ME-TV's networks don't air on cable, it's over the air.  In your area check out
one of these and see if you get either of them:

Gainesville                  WYME-CA     9.2          New Age Media
Tampa/St. Petersburg WFLA-TV      8.2          Media General


The cable we've got has an annoying habit of losing the signal (at least I guess that's what happens) from the ME-TV outlet. It happened again this past Saturday afternoon, right in the middle of Wagon Train.  >:(  At least I got to see hunky Robert Horton before they lost the signal.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 08, 2013, 02:27:54 PM
I have often wondered why Americans are not interested in this time period. There's very
few movies about it and the ones there are are mostly not very good. I mean, there's not
even a movie about Paul Revere. Really? The most recent thing I can think of to detail this
period at all was the John Adams mini-series. And TV series?  Curious.

I understand that it used to be said that the only successful movie made about the American Revolution was Drums Along the Mohawk, which takes place on the frontier during the Revolution. Was The Patriot a success?

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--The lead character was played by Rick Ely. I wonder if he was realted to Ron Ely?

IMDb has almost nothing about him, but one point included suggested to me that his actual surname might be Weber.

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--Another item reads:  "Rick Ely and Philippe Forquet became teenage idols and were widely featured
in movie and fan magazines. Despite extensive promotion and a large (by television standards of the era)
production budget, The Young Rebels failed to garner enough of an audience and was canceled at midseason."

I have no memory at all of Philippe Forquet. I wonder what ever became of him?

What does it say about me that I remember that Will Geer played Rick Ely's father?  :D

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I do wonder what these episodes would be like to view today.

Probably very dated. ... Clearly it wasn't Aaron Spelling's finest hour.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 08, 2013, 02:30:51 PM
Does anyone remember that ABC, in an effort to grab some ratings opposite the
powerhouse ratings draws of Gunsmoke, Lucy and Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In, tried
programming two 45 minute programs from 7:30 to 9pm on Mondays during the
1969-70 season.

The first was a Hullabaloo or Shindig type show called The Music Scene.

I remember Hullabaloo. Also That Was the Week That Was.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 08, 2013, 05:04:15 PM
I suppose if we are going to talk about "Classic TV," we should remember The Mickey Mouse Club--at least those of us old enough to remember it--and note the passing today, at age 70, of Annette Funicello, from complications of multiple sclerosis.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 08, 2013, 06:37:32 PM
I was just going to say the same thing.  I don't really remember the Mickey Mouse Club, but I certainly have fond memories of Annette and her movies.   May she rest in peace, MS is just a terrible disease.


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 08, 2013, 06:39:37 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: kathy on April 08, 2013, 07:45:55 PM
    Quote (partial) from Lyle:

Does anyone remember that ABC, in an effort to grab some ratings opposite the
powerhouse ratings draws of Gunsmoke, Lucy and Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In, tried
programming two 45 minute programs from 7:30 to 9pm on Mondays during the
1969-70 season.
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I do, lyle.  CBS' Gunsmoke (my favorite, as you know) always had the highest ratings, and I do remember that those ABC shows lasted a short time.  I thought it was just stupid of ABC to do those things. 

Just a note:  Last week in one of the hour episodes of Gunsmoke (I get it here on the Encore Western Channel; they show two Marshal Dillon episodes - these are the older ones of 1/2 hr. each; Dennis Weaver as Chester), then an hour one.  Rory Calhoun was the special guest star.  (They didn't always put "special" in front of a guest star's name). 
It was one of the real good episodes.  He played an old friend of Jim Arness' Matt, ended up in some kind of trouble, but was really a good guy in the end and confessed to Matt what he had done. 

It was a pleasure to see him again in western clothes.  And he did look handsome too.  Well, both of them do.   ;)

kathy     :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: kathy on April 08, 2013, 07:51:03 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/513px-Mickey_Mouse_Club_Mouseketeers_1957_zps571128ae.jpg)

I remember when I was little, some of the older kids always went inside their homes for The Mickey Mouse Club.  So I started to do it too.  I enjoyed the old cartoons (when they were shown) the best.  Sometimes they even showed one of Walt's Silly Symphonies shorts from the '30's; sooo good.

It's sad about Annette; that MS is bad.

kathy
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 08, 2013, 08:57:20 PM
Just a note:  Last week in one of the hour episodes of Gunsmoke (I get it here on the Encore Western Channel; they show two Marshal Dillon episodes - these are the older ones of 1/2 hr. each; Dennis Weaver as Chester), then an hour one.  Rory Calhoun was the special guest star.  (They didn't always put "special" in front of a guest star's name). 
It was one of the real good episodes.  He played an old friend of Jim Arness' Matt, ended up in some kind of trouble, but was really a good guy in the end and confessed to Matt what he had done. 

It was a pleasure to see him again in western clothes.  And he did look handsome too.  Well, both of them do.   ;)

kathy     :)

Oooh, I wish I got that! I bet they show a lot of good stuff!  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 09, 2013, 12:51:43 PM

For those of you who grew up watching westerns (and still do!)...
I could have, but I was never really into watching them regularly,
but they were so prevalent that I couldn't help but see them once
in awhile--did any plots or characters ever hint at a gay relationship
or character or the like?  I know that's remote, but you never know.
I was wondering if those shows were on today if any gay characters
or storylines would appear?  I'd have to guess, yes.  I have never seen
the episode, but I know that DR. QUINN, MEDECINE WOMAN did an
episode where Walt Whitman comes to town and rumors of his lifestyle
cause some commotion. If I had known about it beforehand I probably
would have watched it!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 09, 2013, 01:06:33 PM

There was a tv episode I saw when I was quite young that somehow affected me
very strongly, because I think of it every once in awhile, but the problem is that I
have no idea what it was and very few clues to find out what it was.

The only thing I know for a fact is the general outline of what the plot was.
At some point in the story one man that "the law" is searching for is in an upper
window of a building and a man who is after him is on the street below and draws
his gun (rifle?) on him. There is a stand-off through most of the episode where the
guy on the street has to hold his gun on the man in the window and will shoot him
if he moves. Neither of the men move, I guess, throughout much of the episode with
the guy holding the gun on him getting increasingly tired and intense etc. The suspense
builds with every second. What will happen?

That's basically what I know. Was it a western? My recollection of it is that it had a bit of
that vibe, but I seem to recall there were cars on the street. Who knows if it was color or
black and white. Half-hour or hour. Was it Route 66 or Naked City or Twilight Zone or The
Virginian or The Fugitive? With TV series being re-aired and available online and/or dvd I was
hoping a fan of whatever series this was might instantly recognize this plot. Once in awhile I
bring it up hoping it will spark the answer from somewhere.

You can't trust your memory on these things always which is why I can't be specific. But I'd
love to find out what it was and even see it again!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 09, 2013, 01:29:32 PM
For those of you who grew up watching westerns (and still do!)...
I could have, but I was never really into watching them regularly,
but they were so prevalent that I couldn't help but see them once
in awhile--did any plots or characters ever hint at a gay relationship
or character or the like?  I know that's remote, but you never know.
I was wondering if those shows were on today if any gay characters
or storylines would appear?  I'd have to guess, yes.  I have never seen
the episode, but I know that DR. QUINN, MEDECINE WOMAN did an
episode where Walt Whitman comes to town and rumors of his lifestyle
cause some commotion.
If I had known about it beforehand I probably
would have watched it!

I did see that episode. I confess: I used to watch Dr. Quinn: Medicine Woman (though I missed the first season) because I'm a Jane Seymour fan. I remember Dr. Quinn being on the homophobic side, but of course she ends up with a more tolerant attitude toward Whitman by the end.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: kathy on April 09, 2013, 07:03:16 PM
Oooh, I wish I got that! I bet they show a lot of good stuff!  :)

They certainly do and I bet you'd love it!  It's a pleasure to get it (it comes under the heading of Starz/Encore and contains different genres).  It's not offered on HD though, one of the channels that don't. 
I heard on the thread that ME TV has some classic TV, but the ME channel here isn't that good and offers only a certain number of shows.

kathy     :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 10, 2013, 04:39:54 AM
Nice to see the pics of Annette here.

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 10, 2013, 09:55:31 AM
Nice to see the pics of Annette here.

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oops thanks for the heads up Chuck!


Annette was such a little cutie, Beach Blanket Bingo was my favourite.  I should get a discussion going in the movie thread, see if anyone else enjoyed those type of movies.

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Oh and speaking of Dr. Quinn, another favourite of mine.  I started watching because of "Sully" but just fell in love with the show.


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 11, 2013, 08:01:50 AM
Gilligan himself, Bob Denver, was the guest star on the episode of I Dream of Jeannie that I saw last night. He played an inept genie named Harold.  :D

I caught only a part of the Bewitched episode. It appeared to be one where Samantha met Darrin's parents (played by Mabel Albertson and Robert F. Simon) for the first time, and Aunt Clara (bless her heart  :-* ) tried to "help."

Which brings to me mention that I've wondered how come nobody thought it strange that neither the bride's nor the groom's parents/family were present at Darrin and Samantha's wedding?  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 11, 2013, 11:45:49 AM
It seems like it often like that in TV shows, when they start out they are not even thinking of casting extended families.   So then down the road when these people become a big part of the cast, you think "hey where were they when"?   They do the same thing with TV shows that are on now.

http://www.squidoo.com/TvMemories


Here is a list of some 70's TV shows, a lot on there I don't remember!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 11, 2013, 11:48:16 AM
Gilligan himself, Bob Denver, was the guest star on the episode of I Dream of Jeannie that I saw last night. He played an inept genie named Harold.  :D

I caught only a part of the Bewitched episode. It appeared to be one where Samantha met Darrin's parents (played by Mabel Albertson and Robert F. Simon) for the first time, and Aunt Clara (bless her heart  :-* ) tried to "help."

I don't remember that episode with Bob Denver, I wished I'd tuned in!
The shows were always some of my favorites growing up, but now I feel
Jeannie doesn't date as well as Bewitched. I think that's partly to do with
the very 60's "astronaut" themed stories they did which date it and I also
find Bill Daily's character highly annoying because it stretches credibility just
one step too far. It's the same reason I have trouble watching reruns of
The Bob Newhart Show. Still, there's some very amusing episodes.

The 60's sure had a lot of unique sitcom ideas in this realm. Wasn't My Favorite Martian
the first? I watched most of that series recently and there are two episodes where
Ray Walston (Uncle Martin) reference Bewitched.  In one episode they are trying to
get out of being tied up and Martin doesn't know what to do so he says he's going to
try something he's seen on one of your television programs--he twitches his nose.

In another episode he does practically the same thing and when they get out of trouble
eventually the last line is delivered by Uncle Martin saying into the camera:  "Remind me
to send a dozen roses to 'my favorite witch'."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 11, 2013, 12:38:18 PM

I don't know what I'd have thought of GILLIGAN'S ISLAND if I were an adult when
it aired, but I was the perfect age for it's combination of slapstick humor and often
pun related jokes. I also loved the lagoon set and the whole idea of the show. I know
that critics hated it -- intensely -- and CBS was embarrassed by it. They only gave it a
chance because Sherwood Schwartz wouldn't let it go and kept brining it back to them
and they finally agreed to test it in one of those audience monitoring theaters in L.A.
(I did one a couple times) and it got the highest rating for a test pilot ever at the time,
so they reluctantly agreed to air it, but tried burying it on Saturday night, which was
great because their younger audience was watching tv on Saturday nights and it was
very successful there. It was unheard of to move a successful show back then, but
CBS did the next year and the year after that and it still won it's time slot every season
(even against The Monkees). They even renewed it for a 4th season, but at the last
minute cancelled it when they needed to placate William Paley's wife who wanted "her"
favorite series to remain on the air.  Who knows, maybe a 4th season would've killed it
off and been just too much and it wouldn't still be as popular in the culture as it is.

I've watched all the things that have been made about the series, the three TV specials
and the two documentaries. The 2001 (was it?) TV movie about the making of the series.
The tv episodes that spoofed or paid homage to the show on Roseanne, Alf, The New Gidget,
Baywatch and such. I watched Turner's two season reality series The Real Gilligan's Island. I saw
the stage musical version. I read two books about the series and also Sherwood Schwartz's own
book about how the series happened and it's aftermath. I even read a script for a movie version
of the series that didn't get made. (They keep bringing it up every so often. While Schwartz
was still around a couple years ago he announced a possible version and he thought Michael Cera
would be a good choice for Gilligan and he wanted Beyonce (ugh) to be Ginger.) I even met
Natalie Schafer in Century City once and asked if I could shake her hand and told her I was a fan.
(This was in 1991 I believe.) The show keeps appearing in various forms all the time so I am sure
it'll turn up some more! Remember the IKEA commercial? The only thing I haven't seen are the
two animated versions done in the 70's, Gilligan's Planet and The New Adventures of Gilligan. Heh!

What opinion(s) do you guys have of this show?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 11, 2013, 12:42:51 PM
I don't remember that episode with Bob Denver, I wished I'd tuned in!
The shows were always some of my favorites growing up, but now I feel
Jeannie doesn't date as well as Bewitched. I think that's partly to do with
the very 60's "astronaut" themed stories they did which date it and I also
find Bill Daily's character highly annoying because it stretches credibility just
one step too far. It's the same reason I have trouble watching reruns of
The Bob Newhart Show. Still, there's some very amusing episodes.

Yes, I see what you mean. The astronaut theme clearly pegs Jeannie to the Sixties (which really makes it for me like a visit to my childhood!). Bewitched has a certain "timelessness" to it in the way that I Love Lucy is "timeless," in my opinion.

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The 60's sure had a lot of unique sitcom ideas in this realm. Wasn't My Favorite Martian
the first? I watched most of that series recently and there are two episodes where
Ray Walston (Uncle Martin) reference Bewitched.  In one episode they are trying to
get out of being tied up and Martin doesn't know what to do so he says he's going to
try something he's seen on one of your television programs--he twitches his nose.

In another episode he does practically the same thing and when they get out of trouble
eventually the last line is delivered by Uncle Martin saying into the camera:  "Remind me
to send a dozen roses to 'my favorite witch'."

For whatever reason I don't have many memories of My Favorite Martian--as though I only saw a few episodes in reruns even "back then." I'll admit I never checked dates, but I didn't associate it in my memory with being contemporary with at least the early season(s) of Bewitched. I always thought of it as earlier than Bewitched.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 11, 2013, 12:50:05 PM
What opinion(s) do you guys have of this show?

Sometimes you just want mindless goofiness, and Gilligan's Island was perfect for that. The characters were likeable (though I never cared much for Mr. Howell; however, Mrs. Howell was OK). I thought the Professor was handsome, and who doesn't still have a crush on Mary Ann?  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 11, 2013, 01:12:22 PM
It was Ginger my husband liked!  :-*  I hardly remember watching Gilligan's Island, although I know for sure I did.  As you say mindless TV.  BUT Bewitched was different.  I remember when my Dad was in his nursing home, he would watch Bewitched ever day and I would watch with him and it never grew old!  :D 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 13, 2013, 04:36:23 PM
I'm finding it really interesting to read the credits at the end of these old shows that I'm watching now. For example, the episode of Wagon Train that I saw today was written by ... Aaron Spelling!  :o

(And main character at the center of the episode was hunky-hunky Flint McCullough.  :D )
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 14, 2013, 12:53:08 PM
I remember watching Gilligan's Island, Professor and Mary Ann were my favorite characters.  I had a crush on the professor.

;D

I remember seeing one or two of the TV specials.


I remember this as well.



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRAaIt0T3aU
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on April 15, 2013, 04:18:45 AM
Chuck,

That post could have been written by ME. Word for word, but Mrs. Howell was also a favorite character of mine.  I wondered if anyone else had a crush on the Professor.  Now I know!  And I always loved dear "Morry Ahn" (Mr. Howell voice).

Like Lyle, I was the right age for the show at the time.  Today it is silly but I still like it.  Some favorite eps are the one where Mary Ann's "boyfriend" Horace Higginbotham, is getting married, the one with the radioactive vegetables,  and the one with the plastic explosives, to name a few.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 15, 2013, 06:48:01 AM
Was it for the second season that they added the Professor and Mary Ann to the theme song?  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on April 15, 2013, 08:21:35 AM
Yes, and changed the group singing it.  For the better.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 15, 2013, 08:52:53 AM
Yes, and changed the group singing it.  For the better.

Either I never noticed that, or I've just plain forgotten it.  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 15, 2013, 01:53:00 PM
I wondered if anyone else had a crush on the Professor.  Now I know!

I was going to mention it in my first (or second?) post about Gilligan's Island, but I guess I will do it
now. I actually was attracted to Gilligan! Who knows why, but I always kind of liked "him"!

Like Lyle, I was the right age for the show at the time.  Today it is silly but I still like it.  Some favorite eps are the one where Mary Ann's "boyfriend" Horace Higginbotham, is getting married, the one with the radioactive vegetables,  and the one with the plastic explosives, to name a few.

I always liked the episodes best that were the most realistic and you could sort of imagine happening.
Like the first few when they were trying to repair the Minnow or build huts or looking for water. I enjoyed
when something they'd find made a humorous plot, like the radioactive seeds you mentioned! I liked the one
where a telephone cable washied up on the island after a hurricane and they tapped into it. I wasn't always
thrilled with the myriad of people that kept visiting, but I liked the one with the rock group (The Mosquitos)
and the Broadway producer when they put on a musical of Hamlet. I liked the one with the jet pack and the
one where they are going stir crazy so the Professor gets Ginger to foretell coming events to get their minds
off their troubles and she foretells that a ship will pass by when the moon is full, to rescue them. She lets on
in the show that she can't really foretell the future and they all individually agree to keep it to themselves, but
the episode ends when they show a full moon in the night and a huge ocean liner sailing right past them in the
dark! Lol!

By the way, I found out just awhile ago that Jim Backus was offered the role of Abner Kravitz on Bewitched
but had already committed to Gilligan's Island. I think it worked out all right!

From what I've read about Gilligan's Island, Jim Backus, who was a friend of Sherwood Schwartz, was
allowed to improvise at no end and often his stuff ended up in the show to the detriment of better
stuff. I read a script from the series once that had some decent bits in it without Backus, but the actual
televised episode had a couple scenes in it with Backus, that were not as good as the scenes left out.
I guess Sherwood was trying to keep him happy.

I recall a college professor who taught writing for telelvision once in an article writing that everyone he taught
knew Gilligan's Island and were aware that critics and others thought it was really bad so he had his classes write
either actual scripts or storylines for the series to see how good and/or imaginative they could be. I gave it a shot
once!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 15, 2013, 01:57:34 PM
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Sherwood Schwartz pointed out once that in the background of this cast photo,
in a show that was set in the Pacific Ocean, south of Hawaii, there are pine trees!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 15, 2013, 08:08:05 PM
BEAVER star Frank Bank aka LUMPY Rutherford who reportedly broke hearts as an off-screen lothario dead one day after turning 71.

Beaver himself Jerry Mathers, now 64, broke the sad news via Facebook: "I was so sad to hear today of the passing of my dear friend and business associate Frank Bank, who played Lumpy on Leave it to Beaver. He was a character and always kept us laughing. My deepest condolences to Frank's family."

After Beaver was cancelled, Bank made rare  TV appearances, including The Hollywood Squares, Family Feud and the 1983 TV movie Still The Beaver but made most of his income by working as a stockbroker.

According to his 1997 autobiography Call Me Lumpy, Bank claimed that, during the Beaver years, he lived a life of wine, women and song, claiming to have bedded a thousand women.

But Eddie Haskell's alter ego, actor and former LA cop Ken Osmond, was aghast.

"I never pictured Frank as being Don Juan," said Osmond. "But I never went on a date with him."


http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/leave-it-beaver-star-dead
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on April 15, 2013, 09:44:44 PM


By the way, I found out just awhile ago that Jim Backus was offered the role of Abner Kravitz on Bewitched
but had already committed to Gilligan's Island. I think it worked out all right!




Really?!?  I can't imagine anyone other than George Tobias as Abner.  His deadpan sarcasm was wonderful.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on April 17, 2013, 09:14:25 PM
The entire series of THE MANY LOVES OF DOBIE GILLIS is about to be released on DVD.

Anybody out there fans of this show?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 18, 2013, 07:07:31 AM
Really?!?  I can't imagine anyone other than George Tobias as Abner.  His deadpan sarcasm was wonderful.

He had quite a career. He played a producer who wouldn't produce Jimmy Cagney's musical in Yankee Doodle Dandy.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 18, 2013, 11:07:38 AM
The entire series of THE MANY LOVES OF DOBIE GILLIS is about to be released on DVD.

Anybody out there fans of this show?


I tried watching a few episodes of this on ME-TV, but I just can't get into it for whatever reason. It seems too forced maybe,
or over the top or something, I can't explain it. I like all the people involved, but it doesn't gel for me. I would like to see some
of the episodes with Warren Beatty or Tuesday Weld, I haven't seen any of those. The actress who plays Zelda, Sheila Kuehl, is
an out lesbian and has run (and won) several political posts in California.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 18, 2013, 11:54:41 AM
I tried watching a few episodes of this on ME-TV, but I just can't get into it for whatever reason. It seems too forced maybe,
or over the top or something, I can't explain it. I like all the people involved, but it doesn't gel for me. I would like to see some
of the episodes with Warren Beatty or Tuesday Weld, I haven't seen any of those. The actress who plays Zelda, Sheila Kuehl, is
an out lesbian and has run (and won) several political posts in California.

Who can forget the pre-Gilligan Bob Denver as Maynard G. Krebs? Wasn't he on Dobie Gillis? Back then they had beatniks.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on April 18, 2013, 07:17:37 PM
Yes Bob Denver WAS Maynard G. Krebs on Dobie Gillis and he was the beatnik who played the bongo drums.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 20, 2013, 03:55:42 PM
I was watching the credits of ... something ... on ME-TV a couple of days ago, and I noticed something you used to see a lot:

"A Mark Goodson--Bill Todman Production"
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on April 20, 2013, 04:21:05 PM
I even remember the jingle they played behind it!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 20, 2013, 05:36:31 PM
I was watching the credits of ... something ... on ME-TV a couple of days ago, and I noticed something you used to see a lot:

"A Mark Goodson--Bill Todman Production"


WOW those names are a blast from the past aren't they? 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: moreta on April 20, 2013, 11:30:45 PM
I'm finding it really interesting to read the credits at the end of these old shows that I'm watching now. For example, the episode of Wagon Train that I saw today was written by ... Aaron Spelling!  :o


There is an episode of I love Lucy that had Spelling playing Cousin Zeke, in one of the road to hollywood episodes.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: moreta on April 21, 2013, 12:09:59 AM

I have often wondered why Americans are not interested in this time period. There's very
few movies about it and the ones there are are mostly not very good. I mean, there's not
even a movie about Paul Revere. Really? The most recent thing I can think of to detail this
period at all was the John Adams mini-series. And TV series?  Curious.


I think most of the reason that we do not portray revolutionary war stories is becuase of the manner of fighting at the time.  Its hard to make a story of two armies lining up and shooting at each other very exciting.  But there have been some successes.  George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson.  Maybe its because its so far removed and such a different time.  Its difficult to relate.

The civil war seems to overshadow it greatly. My dads grandfather was a justice of the peace, a teacher who made it his lifes mission to make sure that Civil war veterans got the pensions they were promised.  Most didnt, but even that would not be a very interesting movie.

As for the Patriot, Mel Gibson was a big draw back then, but even so they had to play fast and loose with the story line to create an interesting narrative.  A South Carolina plantation owner that did not own slaves? Please! The person he was based on did own slaves, and they cleaned up the story for contemporary audiences. 

I think there are many stories of the revolution/war of 1812 that could be told in an exciting and compelling manner.  Unfortunately, Hollywood thinks the masses are dumb.  Just look at what they did with Master and Commander.  They changed the enemy ship, which in the book was American, to French.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on April 21, 2013, 03:08:19 AM
I have always been very interested in the Revolutionary War, much much so than the War Between the States.  (There's no such thing as a "civil" war. Besides, I'm from the south.)  I too wonder why this period has never been able to be well-represented on movies or TV. 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 21, 2013, 10:07:12 AM

I grew up in the middle of New York State and we had to study New York State history for one year in school.
I learned all about the Indians of New York State and, of course, the Revolutionary War. (Burgoyne's Invasion,
anyone?) We visited sites that had to do with the conflict, like General Herkimer's home, and the gay Revolutionary
War Hero, Baron Von Steuben. (Although no one ever said he was gay back then!  Wonder if they would now?)

I was surprised that back in 1975-76 for the Bicentennial there were no films or movies or TV specials or series
that came out, at least not that I remember, that had anything to do with the period. (?) The thing I most remember
is that between programs CBS had short Bicentennial minutes where they'd announce what happened 200 years ago
that day. It said those Bicentennial minutes were responsible for the later "news breaks" the networks began.

As for TV series, Daniel Boone touched on this time period the most. Does anyone remember a very short-lived
sitcom that was tried out, starring Ryan O'Neal, called 1775? I sure give it credit for trying something new!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 21, 2013, 01:17:37 PM
I grew up in the middle of New York State and we had to study New York State history for one year in school.
I learned all about the Indians of New York State and, of course, the Revolutionary War. (Burgoyne's Invasion,
anyone?) We visited sites that had to do with the conflict, like General Herkimer's home, and the gay Revolutionary
War Hero, Baron Von Steuben. (Although no one ever said he was gay back then!  Wonder if they would now?)

Drums Along the Mohawk, Lyle?

Ooops, wrong thread. ...  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 21, 2013, 01:21:00 PM
"Hello friends! Are you tired, run-down, listless? Do you poop out at parties? Are you unpopular?"

Yes, friends, this afternon ME-TV ran the Vitameatavegamin episode of I Love Lucy.  :D

"It's so tasty, too! Just like candy!"  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on April 21, 2013, 02:23:59 PM
"It's so tasty, too! Just like candy!"  ;D

As she does one of the best full body shiver scowls I have ever seen on TV. :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: moreta on April 21, 2013, 03:29:08 PM
I grew up in the middle of New York State and we had to study New York State history for one year in school.
I learned all about the Indians of New York State and, of course, the Revolutionary War. (Burgoyne's Invasion,
anyone?)

Its ironic that you brought this up because I was googling this battle this morning looking for a story about the origins of a quilt pattern that was named after this battle called Burgoyne Surrounded. The name comes from the Revolutionary War battle of Saratoga, in which 5,800 British troops under the command of General John Burgoyne were surrounded by the American army and forced to surrender on October 17, 1777. This American victory was the turning point in the war, and during one of the periods of colonial revival in the 1800’s, a quilt pattern showing a large square surrounded by smaller squares was created and named for the unfortunate General Burgoyne.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: moreta on April 21, 2013, 03:44:52 PM

I was surprised that back in 1975-76 for the Bicentennial there were no films or movies or TV specials or series
that came out, at least not that I remember, that had anything to do with the period. (?)

I immediately thought of John Jakes "the Bastard" the book came out in 74 and was part of the Kent Family Chronicles that followed the family from pre revolution immigration to modern day.

here is a wiki list of revolutionary war movies and tv shows from 1970 and later which takes it out of classic tv so I will stop commenting here. Tho I will say Im rather fond of Liberty's Kids.

The Young Rebels (1970–1971), Television Series
1776 (1972) film starring William Daniels, Howard Da Silva, Ken Howard
The Bastard (1978), TV miniseries starring Andrew Stevens
The Rebels (1979), TV miniseries starring Andrew Stevens
George Washington (1983), TV miniseries starring Barry Bostwick
Revolution (1985) film starring: Al Pacino, Director: Hugh Hudson
George Washington (1986), TV miniseries starring Barry Bostwick
April Morning (1987) starring Chad Lowe, Tommy Lee Jones, and Robert Urich.
The Devil's Disciple (1987) TV film starring: Patrick Stewart, Director: David Hugh Jones
The American Revolution (1994), TV miniseries starring: Kelsey Grammer and Charles Durning, Director: Lisa Bourgoujian (A&E)
The Crossing (film) (2000) film starring: Jeff Daniels, Roger Rees, Director: Robert Harmon; screenwriter Howard Fast based on his novel; produced for broadcast by the Arts and Entertainment cable television network
The Patriot (2000) film starring: Mel Gibson, Heath Ledger, Director: Roland Emmerich
Liberty's Kids (since 2002) a 40-part animated television series produced by DiC Entertainment and broadcast on PBS Kids from September 2, 2002 to August 13, 2004 and Kids' WB since August 2004.
John Adams, a seven-part HBO biopic miniseries of John Adams, based on David McCullough's biography also entitled John Adams. The first three episodes deal with the Revolution itself, the fourth with its immediate aftermath leading up to the institution of the federal government under the Constitution of the United States in 1789.
Benedict Arnold: A Question of Honor. (2003) film starring: Aidan Quinn as Benedict Arnold and Kelsey Grammer as George Washington. The life of Benedict Arnold and how he switched sides in the American Revolution.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 21, 2013, 06:15:45 PM
As she does one of the best full body shiver scowls I have ever seen on TV. :D

I love the part where she's mangling her lines and says, "Do you pop out at parties? Are you un-poop-ular?"
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 21, 2013, 06:32:27 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 21, 2013, 06:35:25 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on April 21, 2013, 06:58:31 PM
I've loved her all my life. She will always be my favorite.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 22, 2013, 09:03:33 AM
As she [Lucy] does one of the best full body shiver scowls I have ever seen on TV. :D

I had read in the I Love Lucy Show book that they were looking for a substance for the Vitameatavegemin
and someone from the show said they were in a store in West Hollywood and saw apple pectin, which is a
substance used for baking. I told my friend Mark that and one day he saw some on the shelf and bought it.
He had the idea to recreate the scene and we'd taste that stuff the same time Lucy does in the episode. So,
as the moment approached, we got our apple pectin bottles ready and poured it on the spoon and at the right
moment, we put it into our mouths.  I am not taking anything away from Lucy and her talents, but that stuff
provoked the same look on Mark's face as Lucy had in this instance. I guess it's because the stuff tastes sweet
and sour at the same time and is quite unexpected in its taste and the perfect substance for that routine! A
moment to remember, something like Lucy & Ethel would've done!

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 22, 2013, 11:13:54 AM
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So, the answer to all our problems is in that "bittle lottle"?  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 22, 2013, 11:22:30 AM
The Rebels (1979), TV miniseries starring Andrew Stevens


Be still my heart, I remember that one well!   :-* :-*



Apple Pectin eh??   :o
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 23, 2013, 08:43:41 AM
https://www.facebook.com/classictvshows60s70s80s


Someone is one step ahead with a facebook page!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 25, 2013, 10:31:45 AM

There was an episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents on last night with Bette Davis.
It was much ado about nothing, but it was fun to see Bette. She did several TV
series episodes that I can think of. Who knew? Besides this one I know she did
a Gunsmoke and a Perry Mason, neither of which I've seen.
 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 25, 2013, 11:24:28 AM
There was an episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents on last night with Bette Davis.
It was much ado about nothing, but it was fun to see Bette. She did several TV
series episodes that I can think of. Who knew? Besides this one I know she did
a Gunsmoke and a Perry Mason, neither of which I've seen.

I'm sure I've mentioned that she did a Wagon Train, during the Ward Bond years. I saw it years ago, in the same period where I saw the Charles Laughton episode of Wagon Train. In Bette's episode, there was mention of her character having been in a yellow fever epidemic in New Orleans.  ;)  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: kathy on April 25, 2013, 09:14:35 PM
I remember each episode you stated.  I saw the Wagon Train one a few wks. back (with the mention of yellow fever - shades of Jezebel?) ;)  This was in b&w.

In the Gunsmoke episode, the story was Bette as a mother whose husband had been taken in to Hays City by Matt to be hanged; or the husband was killed by Matt in the line of duty.  She took Miss Kitty as a hostage and the sons (one of whom was Bruce Dern, who was in many an episode of Gunsmoke, like so many other to be rather famous actors and also was in Hush, Hush, Sweet Charlotte as Bette's lover when they were young and he was murdered) and started building a hanging tree to hang Matt.  I don't remember if Matt was taken prisoner before Kitty or not.  This was in color.

The Perry Mason episode was one she did as a fill in for Raymond Burr when he was ill for a time.  Other actors filled in too.  This was in b&w.

kathy    :)
p.s.  The Gunsmoke episode was the best (I know, I'm prejudiced).  Bette slapped Kitty in the face and there was much ado about that.  And do you remember how TPTB really came down on Gunsmoke - saying there was way too much violence in it?  There was so much about that.  I never thought it had "more violence" than any other western, but I'm prejudiced.  
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: moreta on April 26, 2013, 04:16:12 AM
I remember each episode you stated.  I saw the Wagon Train one a few wks. back (with the mention of yellow fever - shades of Jezebel?) ;)  This was in b&w.


One of my favorite episodes of It Takes a Thief  where she played Bessie Grindle, a down and out pick pocket that Al includes in caper to renew her will to live.  I also loved the episodes of Fred Astaire playing his father. 

Anyone remember Longstreet?  It had james Franciscus as a blind insurance investigator and his seeing eye dog.  It also had bruce lee for a few episodes
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 26, 2013, 07:19:13 AM
I remember each episode you stated.  I saw the Wagon Train one a few wks. back (with the mention of yellow fever - shades of Jezebel?) ;)  This was in b&w.

Darn! If ME-TV broadcast it sytem-wide, then I missed it!  :'(  I would really like to see that episode again. I wonder whether it's included in any of the collections that have been released on DVD?

You betcha that was a reference to Jezebel!  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: kathy on April 26, 2013, 07:32:43 PM
Jeff, the channel that runs the two Marshal Dillon 1/2 hr. episodes (with Chester), and next the 1-hr. episodes are shown here on Encore Western Channel.  Starz & Encore are kind of "together" but Encore is the one that shows the classic TV westerns and lately the classic film High Noon.
There are a few other Encore channels like Encore Suspense and Encore something or other, but I usually watch the Westerns one.   They are now still showing the 1/2 hr. ones w/Chester from 1960 - I think.  The hour ones are still in b&w and the one on today was from 1965 (Festus was in it).

ME-TV here: I have no idea what channel it's on.  I caught a Gunsmoke episode on it once by chance; it was in color.  But now I can't even find the channel.  Comcast has made many changes over the past year and sometimes the channels are just jumbled in my head; e.g. I have an HD TV.  The HD channels have a different numbered system from the others!  Talk about confusing.   ::) 

kathy     :)     
p.s.  Bette was also in another episode of Wagon Train w/Ward Bond.  She played a mother of several children and thought she was pregnant again.  But she learned it was a tumor and she would die in a matter of time.  (I'd like to catch the one w/Chas. Laughton). 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 28, 2013, 04:09:19 PM
kathy     :)     
p.s.  Bette was also in another episode of Wagon Train w/Ward Bond.  She played a mother of several children and thought she was pregnant again.  But she learned it was a tumor and she would die in a matter of time.  (I'd like to catch the one w/Chas. Laughton). 

Wow! I didn't know that! I've only seen the "Jezebel episode," and that only once.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 29, 2013, 10:59:23 AM

I saw the Bette Davis PERRY MASON episode last night. While it was grand to see Bette doing
her thing in a classic tv series, the episode and plot were not all that compelling.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 30, 2013, 07:10:42 AM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000012/

I can't believe how much TV she did, I had no idea!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 30, 2013, 11:02:46 AM

According to that she did THREE episodes of WAGON TRAIN:

Wagon Train (TV series)
– The Bettina May Story (1961) … Bettina May
– The Elizabeth McQueeny Story (1959) … Madame Elizabeth McQueeny
– The Ella Lindstrom Story (1959) … Ella Lindstrom

I know one thing they don't have on that list because I saw the segment.
She was on an episode of ABC's Variety Series THE HOLLYWOOD PALACE.
Amazing what you can find all at your fingertips, too--I just googled Bette
and Hollywood Palace and you can find these clips on there!

THE HOLLYWOOD PALACE is a show that never really garnered much public attention
nor has it stayed in the minds of hardly any people. I think it was in a rough timeslot or
something, but if you look at the people who were on it you'd be quite amazed. It was
on for 192 episodes, too, from 1964-1970.

This wikipedia link has a list of the people who appeared on it each season!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hollywood_Palace

If I were here then I surely would've gotten a ticket or two to a taping.
It's got nearly all the whole list of Hollywood greats and people of the moment. It had different
hosts every week (like SNL) and it was structured like an old vaudeville show and actually done
in a theatre near Hollywood and Vine.
(http://www.shorpy.com/files/images/Misc_183.preview.jpg)

The place is still there and it's a nightclub called The Avalon.
(http://avalonhollywood.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/avalon-history-2002.jpg)


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 30, 2013, 11:19:46 AM

Look at some of the famous people on this show that would've been glorious to see,
and this is only a selection from the FIRST season, mostly:

    Bing Crosby
    Bobby Van
    Ginger Rogers
    Johnny Mathis
    Eleanor Powell
    Yma Sumac
    Gene Kelly
    Kate Smith
    Dean Martin
    Groucho Marx
    Nat "King" Cole
    Diahann Carroll
    Ken Murray
    Paul Winchell
    The Lennon Sisters
    Patti Page
    Cyd Charisse
    Tony Martin
    Ferrante and Teicher
    Rich Little
    Jimmy Durante
    Rowan and Martin
    Eddie Albert
    Anna Maria Alberghetti
    Henny Youngman
    Betty Hutton
    Carole Cook
    Paul Lynde
    Trini Lopez
    George Gobel
    Victor Borge
    Dennis Day
    Caterina Valente
    Phil Harris
    Louis Armstrong
    Gene Barry
    Buster Keaton
    Gloria Swanson
    The Rolling Stones
    Ed Wynn
    Eydie Gormé
    Joan Crawford
    Maurice Chevalier
    Dan Dailey
    Willie Mays
    Bette Davis
    Olivia de Havilland
    Arthur Godfrey
    Alice Faye
    Edgar Bergen and Charlie McCarthy
    Betty Grable
    Van Johnson
    Liberace
    Edward G. Robinson
    Shani Wallis
    Gene Barry
    Elizabeth Montgomery
    The Supremes

And some people I don't think I've heard of before:
   
    Johnny Puleo
    Miriam Makeba
    Francis Brunn
    Michael Bentine
    Zizi Jeanmaire
    Gilbert Bécaud
    John W. Bubbles
    John Gary
    Philly Joe Jones
    Shelly Manne
    Gene Baylos
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 30, 2013, 11:44:43 AM
According to that she did THREE episodes of WAGON TRAIN:

Wagon Train (TV series)
– The Bettina May Story (1961) … Bettina May
– The Elizabeth McQueeny Story (1959) … Madame Elizabeth McQueeny
– The Ella Lindstrom Story (1959) … Ella Lindstrom

That's the episode I've seen--and hope to see again.

Quote
I know one thing they don't have on that list because I saw the segment.
She was on an episode of ABC's Variety Series THE HOLLYWOOD PALACE.
Amazing what you can find all at your fingertips, too--I just googled Bette
and Hollywood Palace and you can find these clips on there!

THE HOLLYWOOD PALACE is a show that never really garnered much public attention
nor has it stayed in the minds of hardly any people. I think it was in a rough timeslot or
something, but if you look at the people who were on it you'd be quite amazed. It was
on for 192 episodes, too, from 1964-1970.

This wikipedia link has a list of the people who appeared on it each season!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hollywood_Palace

If I were here then I surely would've gotten a ticket or two to a taping.
It's got nearly all the whole list of Hollywood greats and people of the moment. It had different
hosts every week (like SNL) and it was structured like an old vaudeville show and actually done
in a theatre near Hollywood and Vine.
(http://www.shorpy.com/files/images/Misc_183.preview.jpg)

We watched The Hollywood Palace at our house.  :) Was it on Saturday nights? Sunday nights--later than Disney? I could never have believed it lasted till 1970--it's a part of my "Sixties Childhood" memories.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 01, 2013, 10:47:44 AM
The place is still there and it's a nightclub called The Avalon.
(http://www.privatelosangelestours.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Avalon.jpg)

The other photo doesn't seem to be loading properly.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 01, 2013, 11:39:11 AM
And some people I don't think I've heard of before:
   
    Johnny Puleo
    Miriam Makeba
    Francis Brunn
    Michael Bentine
    Zizi Jeanmaire
    Gilbert Bécaud
    John W. Bubbles
    John Gary
    Philly Joe Jones
    Shelly Manne
    Gene Baylos


I ought to do some research (read: Google). I know Miriam Makeba and John Gary are/were singers. I'm pretty sure John W. Bubbles was a tap dancer. I think Zizi Jeanmaire was in a movie with Danny Kaye (just as "Jeanmaire"). And--I think this is kind of funny--I don't know a thing about Philly Joe Jones, but I've seen his plaque in Philadelphia's "Music Walk of Fame" on South Broad Street.

I think at our house, when I was a kid, we must have watched all the variety shows--and for myself I'm including in this category--but not limiting it to--Red Skelton, Ed Sullivan, Dean Martin, Jackie Gleason, Andy Williams, Flip Wilson, the Osmonds, and the King Sisters. There must be more.

Of course, Carol Burnett is sui generis.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 04, 2013, 12:56:57 PM
I ought to do some research (read: Google). I know Miriam Makeba and John Gary are/were singers. I'm pretty sure John W. Bubbles was a tap dancer. I think Zizi Jeanmaire was in a movie with Danny Kaye (just as "Jeanmaire"). And--I think this is kind of funny--I don't know a thing about Philly Joe Jones, but I've seen his plaque in Philadelphia's "Music Walk of Fame" on South Broad Street.

That's cool that many are recognizable to you!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 04, 2013, 01:33:56 PM
I think at our house, when I was a kid, we must have watched all the variety shows--and for myself I'm including in this category--but not limiting it to--Red Skelton, Ed Sullivan, Dean Martin, Jackie Gleason, Andy Williams, Flip Wilson, the Osmonds, and the King Sisters. There must be more.

Of course, Carol Burnett is sui generis.  :D

I used to love the variety show format, too.  I was more fond of the ones that accented
comedy over the music, though.  Now, I appreciate the ones with the music in them a lot
more than I did as a kid.

My favorite variety show of all time was:

(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003634727/336261480_laugh_in_title_card_thumb_xlarge.jpeg)

Other huge favorties were and are:

The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour
The Red SKelton Hour
The Sonny & Cher Show
The Carol Burnett Show
   (I always loved that her shows' initials were also CBS!)
The Dean Martin Show

The Dean Martin Show wasn't one I could always stay up to see when I was a kid.
It was on at 10pm. And it wasn't rerun during the summer when I could have seen
it.  So, I don't know a lot about it, but I really liked it, even though it was more
attuned to music, but there were so many stars!  I know recently many have
been released on dvd at Time Lilfe, but I haven't seen them, though I will someday.

I don't really know much about the black and white variety shows before 1965,
like Danny Kaye, Perry Como, Judy Garland (I have seen some of these on video)
and Dinah Shore, Pat Boone, Nat King Cole and the like.

I remember some shorter lived series like Julie Andrews, Pat Paulsen, Leslie Uggams,
Tom Jones, Jim Nabors and Jerry Lewis. Milton Berle tried a series revival in 1968, or
thereabouts. Kraft Music Hall was always a hit or miss proposition because it had no
regular host each week. I did not really gravitate toward all the country star shows
because I was not really fond of all their music--Glen Campbell (the one I saw mostly),
Mack Davis, Johnny Cash (ugh) and the syndicated ones from Nashville. I did like
Flip Wilson (he appeared on Laugh-In a lot) but I did not like the format of his show,
with the studio audience practically in his lap or in every shot. It really annoyed me.
I know Ed Sullivan's show was variety, but I didn't really watch it, we watched Disney's
Wonderful World of Color more often than not.

I remember The Beautiful Phylllis Diller Show. Shields & Yarnell and Hee-Haw.  When I went off to
college I only brielfy saw some of those variety series that were the last of their kind like Donny & Marie
and The Captain & Tenille and what probably killed the genre-Pink Lady & Jeff!

In 1977 I was fortunate to see one of the Laugh-In '77 specials taped.  I alwasy looked forward to
Bob Hope's specials, at least his monologues. and the Jack Benny Variety Specials.

I always wanted Paul Lynde to have a variety series or be a regular on Laugh-In!

Of the six variety series I listed as my favorites, there are episodes one can find of all of those
on dvd, which is remarkable considering music rights hamper most all variety show releases.
I still enjoy watching many of them.

Of course, SNL starts out in the Classic TV Series era we've outlined!  I still watch that!
It's about 38 seasons now!  Incredible...Wow!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 04, 2013, 01:43:05 PM

In the variety show arena, one of the most amazing clips I have seen is on youtube
and it was labeled as from The Sammy Davis, Jr. Show. (I didn't know he had one.)
It had The Supremes on one side of the stage and The Andrews Sisters on the other
(Sammy was in the middle) and each "group" was singing the hits of the other. Amazing
piece of video. If you google Supremes + Andrews Sisters + youtube you'll probably find it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 04, 2013, 03:05:48 PM
Here it is, Lyle.

http://youtu.be/HgTsBsSngrc
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 04, 2013, 03:48:15 PM
I ought to do some research (read: Google). I know Miriam Makeba and John Gary are/were singers. I'm pretty sure John W. Bubbles was a tap dancer. I think Zizi Jeanmaire was in a movie with Danny Kaye (just as "Jeanmaire"). And--I think this is kind of funny--I don't know a thing about Philly Joe Jones, but I've seen his plaque in Philadelphia's "Music Walk of Fame" on South Broad Street.

I think at our house, when I was a kid, we must have watched all the variety shows--and for myself I'm including in this category--but not limiting it to--Red Skelton, Ed Sullivan, Dean Martin, Jackie Gleason, Andy Williams, Flip Wilson, the Osmonds, and the King Sisters. There must be more.

Of course, Carol Burnett is sui generis.  :D

John Gary lived in New Orleans for a while, and he was a fixture on local TV in the early 60's. He was an avid skin diver, and once broke the record for remaining underwater using scuba equipment while living down there.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 04, 2013, 06:30:47 PM
I wish someone would bring back the variety show, I really do!


On television, variety reached its peak during the period of the 1960s and 1970s. With a turn of the television dial, viewers around the globe could variously have seen shows and occasional specials featuring Dinah Shore, Bob Hope, Bing Crosby, Perry Como, Andy Williams, Julie Andrews, The Carpenters, Olivia Newton-John, John Denver, John Davidson, Mac Davis, Bobby Goldsboro, Lynda Carter, Johnny Cash, Sonny and Cher, Bob Monkhouse, Carol Burnett, Rod Hull and Emu, Flip Wilson, Lawrence Welk, Glen Campbell, Donny & Marie Osmond, Barbara Mandrell, Judy Garland, The Captain & Tennille, The Jacksons, The Keane Brothers, Bobby Darin, Sammy Davis, Jr., Mary Tyler Moore, Dean Martin, Tony Orlando and Dawn, The Smothers Brothers, Danny Kaye, Des O'Connor, Buck and Roy, Roy Hudd, Billy Dainty, Max Wall or The Muppet Show. Even "The Brady Bunch" had a variety show. Variety shows were once as common on television as Westerns, courtroom dramas, suspense thrillers, sitcoms, or (in more modern times) reality shows.

During the 1960s and 1970s, there were also numerous one-time variety specials featuring stars such as Shirley MacLaine, Frank Sinatra, Diana Ross and Mitzi Gaynor, none of whom ever had a regular television series.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variety_show
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 04, 2013, 08:38:48 PM
Boyoboy, all these posts on the old variety shows sure do bring back memories.  :)

Laugh-in was sui generis. It always amazes me to think where Goldie Hawn went from there!  :D

How on earth can I remember Dean Martin's show if it was on that late?  :D

On television, variety reached its peak during the period of the 1960s and 1970s. With a turn of the television dial, viewers around the globe could variously have seen shows and occasional specials featuring Dinah Shore, Bob Hope, Bing Crosby, Perry Como, Andy Williams, Julie Andrews, The Carpenters, Olivia Newton-John, John Denver, John Davidson, Mac Davis, Bobby Goldsboro, Lynda Carter, Johnny Cash, Sonny and Cher, Bob Monkhouse, Carol Burnett, Rod Hull and Emu, Flip Wilson, Lawrence Welk, Glen Campbell, Donny & Marie Osmond, Barbara Mandrell, Judy Garland, The Captain & Tennille, The Jacksons, The Keane Brothers, Bobby Darin, Sammy Davis, Jr., Mary Tyler Moore, Dean Martin, Tony Orlando and Dawn, The Smothers Brothers, Danny Kaye, Des O'Connor, Buck and Roy, Roy Hudd, Billy Dainty, Max Wall or The Muppet Show. Even "The Brady Bunch" had a variety show. Variety shows were once as common on television as Westerns, courtroom dramas, suspense thrillers, sitcoms, or (in more modern times) reality shows.

Oi! There are some folks in this list that I've never heard of (Rod Hull and Emu? Billy Dainty? ??? ), but it's shocking how many others I'd clean forgotten had shows. How on earth did the networks accommodate them all, back in the days when there were only three networks?  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on May 04, 2013, 11:32:04 PM
Ohmigod.  Rod Hull and his Emu.  That used to crack me up.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 05, 2013, 10:46:15 AM

I think variety shows disappeared because of the remote control. When people started having
dozens of channels they started flipping from one to another and that, in a sense, is your own
type of variety show. Youtube is a world wide vatiety show. I guess you could say that a show
like America's Got Talent or Dancing with the Stars, even though they're a competition, are a
bit like variety shows. Saturday Night Live is a variety show, we tend to forget that there is still
one on and it's been on for a long time. MAD-TV was also on for quite a few seasons.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 05, 2013, 03:23:47 PM
I don't know, I guess I don't really agree.........I don't see IDOL or X Factor or America's Got Talent as the same thing.  And yea we do have more stations (I probably have a hundred) but I would still like to see a good variety show.


I say bring back the Captain and Tennille!!


 :D



(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/30627_zps35414c4e.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 06, 2013, 07:38:05 AM
The granddaddy of America's Got Talent: Ted Mack's Original Amateur Hour.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 06, 2013, 08:55:02 AM
I am betting no one remembers this one:


Tiny Talent Time was a long-running and hugely successful television program on CHCH television, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada. For almost four decades (1957 to 1992) the talent and variety program showcased the talents of local children in an entertaining family genre. The show was marked by a characteristically home-spun style and had great appeal to many different age groups. Indeed, many participants in the original show have enjoyed illustrious careers as performers around the world.

The original Tiny Talent Time was aired in a half-hour format and was hosted by notable Canadian performer Bill Lawrence. During the program, Mr. Lawrence engaged in casual, light-hearted banter with the performers before and after each act. The questions usually revolved around a child's school, home life, family and likes and dislikes.


http://www.tvarchive.ca/database/18809/tiny_talent_time/details/


I can still sing the theme song!  :D  I always wanted to go on it, but I couldn't sing OR dance!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 06, 2013, 02:39:41 PM
The granddaddy of America's Got Talent: Ted Mack's Original Amateur Hour.  ;D

And before that was Major Bowes!  :D

(Of course, that was TV without pictures)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Bowes_Amateur_Hour

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on May 06, 2013, 02:52:29 PM
And before that was Major Bowes!  :D



I got through Abie's, Irish Rose, Five Dionne babies, Major Bowes

Had heebie-jeebies for Beebe's, Bathysphere

I got through Brenda Fraszier, and I'm here
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 07, 2013, 11:02:18 AM

I was watching some episodes of CAR 54, WHERE ARE YOU? this weekend.
The show has both a great appeal and also an annoyance about it at the same
time. It was filmed in New York City and the outdoor scenes, usuaully without dialogue,
are on the streets of the city from the early sixties and that's interesting.  The end
credits proclaim "Filmed at the Biograph Studios in the Bronx."  I guess a lot of Broadway
actors at the time did cameo roles in the series.

What I don't like about it and find terribly annoying is that to get the laugh track they
showed the episodes in a rented theatre in New York somewhere and used that for
the laugh track and it sounds disconnected from the show somehow.  It sounds hollow
and too over the top at points and way too loud many times.

There's a holdup in the Bronx
Brooklyn's broken out in fights
There's a traffic jam in Harlem
That's backed up to Jackson Heights.
There's a scout troop short a child
Kruschev's due at Idyllwild...
Car 54, Where Are You?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 07, 2013, 11:58:09 AM
There's a holdup in the Bronx
Brooklyn's broken out in fights
There's a traffic jam in Harlem
That's backed up to Jackson Heights.
There's a scout troop short a child
Kruschev's due at Idyllwild...
Car 54, Where Are You?


Oooh! Oooh!

 :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 07, 2013, 12:50:56 PM
Oooh! Oooh!
 :D

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lPrE2GZypKk/TnAj1LiefbI/AAAAAAAATJM/TqkuaaTMBwQ/s1600/Car54Bottom.jpg)

Oooh! Oooh!
 Who knew!

(http://thedomandjaneshow.itmblog.com/files/2012/06/gunther-toody-s-diner.jpg)

Apparently there are six of these locaions in Colorado, the first one opened about twenty years ago,
but I can find no reference it was named after this character, but how could it not be?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 07, 2013, 01:25:12 PM
(http://thedomandjaneshow.itmblog.com/files/2012/06/gunther-toody-s-diner.jpg)

Apparently there are six of these locaions in Colorado, the first one opened about twenty years ago,
but I can find no reference it was named after this character, but how could it not be?[/center]

Indeed, how could it not? I've seen one of them--I think it's in Westminster, outside Denver--but I've never eaten there.

There is also a Rosie's Diner in the Denver area, which I'm positive I was told has some TV connection to its name, but I can't seem to remember what that connection is.  ???  I have eaten at Rosie's, and the food is good diner food--or it was when I ate there, anyway.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on May 07, 2013, 02:06:56 PM
In
There is also a Rosie's Diner in the Denver area, which I'm positive I was told has some TV connection to its name,

"Rosie the Waitress", (Nancy Walker), Bounty paper towel commercials.  (Though not the one in the Denver area).  I think the original commercials were filmed in a diner in New Jersey which was then renamed "Rosie's Diner" due to popularity of the commercials. 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on May 07, 2013, 04:08:08 PM

I tried watching a few episodes of this on ME-TV, but I just can't get into it for whatever reason. It seems too forced maybe,
or over the top or something, I can't explain it. I like all the people involved, but it doesn't gel for me. I would like to see some
of the episodes with Warren Beatty or Tuesday Weld, I haven't seen any of those. The actress who plays Zelda, Sheila Kuehl, is
an out lesbian and has run (and won) several political posts in California.
i believe she was ranking state senator and then was termed out.  she is currently running for LA county supervisor.

dobie gillis was a product of his times, and a spin off from a book of stories by max shulman.  in that period between the beats and the hippies, the angsty first world problems of what would today be deemed as slackers was pretty funny.  it did not, obviously age well, but did not achieve a camp following such as beverly hillbillies did.  i remember it fondly, but doubt i would find it amusing now.
 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on May 07, 2013, 04:11:08 PM
I grew up in the middle of New York State and we had to study New York State history for one year in school.
I learned all about the Indians of New York State and, of course, the Revolutionary War. (Burgoyne's Invasion,
anyone?) We visited sites that had to do with the conflict, like General Herkimer's home, and the gay Revolutionary
War Hero, Baron Von Steuben. (Although no one ever said he was gay back then!  Wonder if they would now?)
as was i, it was 7th grade, jr high back then, before the middle school concept tragically became the norm.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on May 07, 2013, 04:31:39 PM
lyle.. great summation of miriam makeba's life and impact on the world.  she was a great talent and a great lady.

i had several of her records and she fit right in with the protest movement concerts of the 60's.

you might recognize several of her songs if you heard them. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP6CdNVzjC8
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on May 07, 2013, 04:35:07 PM
Here it is, Lyle.

http://youtu.be/HgTsBsSngrc

excellent clip.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 07, 2013, 05:00:20 PM

The Carol Burnett Show is back!

Carol Burnett has hand-selected her favorite ten episodes for you to enjoy. Laugh along to the show’s most memorable sketches including Went with the Wind, The Oldest Man, Mr. Tudball and Mrs. Wiggins, As the Stomach Turns, The Hollow Hero, The Family, Nora Desmond and many more! You’ll also enjoy over 50 musical performances and 6 hours of bonus material.


http://timelife.com/products/carol-s-top-ten-episodes?utm_source=google&utm_medium=ppc-display&utm_campaign=Y11GGRNGRM&utm_term=


 ;D  adds to my Christmas list!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 07, 2013, 05:22:18 PM
"Rosie the Waitress", (Nancy Walker), Bounty paper towel commercials.  (Though not the one in the Denver area).  I think the original commercials were filmed in a diner in New Jersey which was then renamed "Rosie's Diner" due to popularity of the commercials. 

Is that it? Thanks! (I meant the name, not necessarily the location.)

In a similar vein, I've always assumed somebody in a restaurant company had a Bonanza fixation, since we've had, in succession, the Bonanza Sirloin Pit, the Ponderosa Steak House, and Hoss's.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 07, 2013, 05:35:50 PM
*Show #722, Original Air Date: March 16, 1974

Guest Starring: Roddy McDowall, The Jackson 5

    Q&A
    Talk and Duet Medley: Exactly Like You/She’s Funny That Way/They Didn’t Believe Me/Tea for Two/Speak Low/So in Love—Carol and Roddy McDowall
    Short Film: Roddy McDowall in the Makeup Chair for Planet of the Apes
    The Family: The Reunion—Cast and Roddy McDowall
    The Carpenters—Carol, Harvey, Lyle
    Dancing Machine—The Jackson 5
    Bus Stop—Carol, Harvey, Vicki, Lyle
    Brief Encounter—Carol and Roddy McDowall
    Finale: Music School Medley: This Old Man/ABC—Carol, The Jackson 5, Dancers and Singers
    Goodnights


I could entertain myself with that link, I want these DVD'S!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: moreta on May 07, 2013, 08:44:18 PM

In a similar vein, I've always assumed somebody in a restaurant company had a Bonanza fixation, since we've had, in succession, the Bonanza Sirloin Pit, the Ponderosa Steak House, and Hoss's.

Bonanza Steak house was founded by Dan Blocker, Ponderosa was started a few years later probably as a competitor.  They merged ownership in the 90s.  Most of them are gone where I lived.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2013, 07:41:17 AM
Bonanza Steak house was founded by Dan Blocker, Ponderosa was started a few years later probably as a competitor.  They merged ownership in the 90s.  Most of them are gone where I lived.

Interesting to know. Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2013, 10:05:03 AM
Another favorite TV theme song:

The end of the Civil War was near
When quite accidentally,
A hero who sneezed, abruptly seized
Retreat and reversed it to victory!
His Medal of Honor pleased and thrilled
His proud little family group;
While pinning it on, some blood was spilled
And so it was planned he'd command... F TROOP!
Where Indian fights are colorful sights
And nobody takes a lickin',
Where paleface and redskin
Both turn chicken!
When drilling and fighting get them down
They know their morale can't droop
As long as they all relax in town
Before they resume with a bang and a boom... F TROOP!


 ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 08, 2013, 11:16:07 AM

I have both seasons of F TROOP on dvd. (The first season is in black and white
and the second season is in color.) I really didn't think the show would hold up
and I'd find it just too silly, but I was pleasantly surprised that it is still pretty
amusing. One does have to like that kind of silly humor, including slapstick, but
it works in a kind of Blazing Saddles sort of way. The Indian tribe is played as
Catskill, borscht belt comedians. (And smarter than the soldiers, of course.)

And it is something different.  Were there any other western comedies that
lasted at all?  I remember them trying some like Rango, with Tim Conway,
and one called Pistols and Petticoats, but I'm not remembering any others.

There's one episode where the Captain and Wrangler Jane do a hilarious
take-off on the dinner scene in the film Tom Jones. Another has a very
amusing Paul Lynde playing a singing Mountie.

The Indians in tthe show were from the Heckawi tribe.  Now, whether or not
those who came up with this name had this joke in mind at first or not, who knows,
but if they did, the fact that they waited almost a year to do this joke made it even
more hilarious."

In an episode almost a year after it came on the air, Corporal Agarn (Larry Storch)
asks the Indian Chief, Chief Wild Eagle, what their name means; how their tribe got
their name. His reply:

Chief Wild Eagle: "Many moons ago tribe move west because Pilgrims ruin neighborhood.
Tribe travel west, over country and mountains and wild streams, then come big day...
...tribe fall over cliff, that when Hekawi get name. Medicine man say to my ancestor,
'I think we lost. Where the heck are we?'"


LOL!

Did anyone see the 2009 Coen Brothers film A Serious Man?  The film takes place in 1967 and the
main character is a father and his family, which include two teenage sons.  A recurring point in the
film is that the two boys are hooked on the show F TROOP.  There are scenes where they have
to be in front of the tv when the show airs and a crisis at one point when the reception from the
antenna isn't working properly. A nice touch in an otherwise, IMO, problematic film.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 08, 2013, 11:37:51 AM
as was i, it was 7th grade, jr high back then, before the middle school concept tragically became the norm.

Yes, exactly right, it was 7th Grade.  Although one doesn't usually appreciate such things
at the time, I had an exceptional teacher for this class.  We learned so much in that one
year and all in the guise of having a good time at it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2013, 11:42:12 AM
I have both seasons of F TROOP on dvd. (The first season is in black and white
and the second season is in color.)

I've been meaning for years to get that first season but I keep procrastinating.  :-\

Quote
Were there any other western comedies that
lasted at all?

Well, there was this one-season wonder, which essentially reworked Gilligan's Island, complete with Gilligan!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dusty's_Trail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dusty's_Trail)

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Pistols and Petticoats

I remember that show very fondly, too.  :)

My memories of it are a bit confused, however. How was it that everyone in the family was surnamed Hanks? Was Henrietta (Ann Sheridan) born a Hanks or did she marry into the family (yet I swear I have a memory of her addressing Grandma [Ruth McDevitt] as "Mama")? I'm sure I'm correct in remembering that Henrietta was a widow. But if she was born a Hanks and married, why were she and her daughter Lucy both using Hanks as a last name?  ??? Questions you're not supposed to worry about, I guess.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 08, 2013, 01:57:08 PM
I remember watching F-Troop in reruns.....was I the only one who thought Ken Berry was cute in his outfit?

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2013, 02:54:11 PM
I remember watching F-Troop in reruns.....was I the only one who thought Ken Berry was cute in his outfit?

:D :D :D

Nope. I watched it in the original broadcast and I thought he was cute in that uniform.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 09, 2013, 12:18:13 PM

What I always laughed at was the recurring joke where someone would say to
Agarn (Larry Storch) "And they say you're so dumb."  And then it could be
right away or it could be twenty minutes later and he'd look at the person and
go, "Who says I'm dumb?"  Worked every time!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 09, 2013, 12:28:26 PM
(http://knoji.com/images/user/williamfelchner/ftroopkenberryautograph-2f839490.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 10, 2013, 10:50:40 PM
(http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superfriends/z130506-worldsgreatestDVDA.jpg)

Season 4 of the Super Friends (titled "World's Greatest Super Friends") was released on DVD the end of last month.   Fans of the series were surprised because word was that this season would not see the light of day.

The season consisted of only 8 episodes, but some of the episodes were based on pieces of literature, so it was long assumed that permissions weren't given, and therefore a DVD release was not going to happen, as seasons 3 & 5 were released, with 4 being skipped.

"Rub Three Times for Disaster" - (based on The Arabian Knights) - Kareem Azaar is a ruthless thief on the Planet Zaghdad who has stolen the Magic Lamp of Olam, which contains the power of an evil genie. Kareem uses the Genie's power to take over the planet and banish the Sultan into the world of the Genie's lamp. When the Super Friends arrive to do battle, Superman and the Wonder Twins wind up in the lamp leaving the other heroes to take on Kareem's forces. 

"Lex Luthor Strikes Back" - (original) Lex Luthor uses a projector ray (reverse camera) to disguise himself and his assistant Orville Gump as Super Friends in an elaborate plot to destroy them. Luthor aligns himself with evil fire demons who originate from the sun. They aid Luthor in capturing the Super Friends and placing them in death traps. The demons then change the color of the sun from yellow to red which cause Superman's powers to vanish. However, the sun demons double-cross Luthor and he is trapped in a fire, so he has no choice but to free the Super Friends in an effort to save himself and Earth (so he can continue to take it over, of course!). The Super friends perform rescues and put out fires. Superman uses the Super-Mobile to chase the fire demons back into the sun...which causes the sun to return to its natural color...which restores Superman's powers. Luthor and his assistant are sent back to prison.
 
"Space Knights of Camelon" - (based on King Arthur) - While protecting a prehistoric planet from a meteor, Superman ends up hit by the meteor's nuclear core, crash lands on the medieval planet of Camelon, and loses his memory. A bunch of rebels led by Logan take him in as their black knight in a plan to overthrow King Arthur 7. It's up to the Super Friends to help Superman remember and defeat the rebels. 

"The Lord of Middle Earth" - (based on  J. R. R. Tolkien's writings) - What starts off as a camping trip for the Wonder Twins turns into a nightmarish adventure in Middle Earth when the Super Friends must battle a black magic sorcerer named Mal Havok who has taken over the troll kingdom. Mal Havoc uses his magic to turn the Super Friends into trolls. With their powers reduced, Batman and Wonder Woman accompany the troll king on a mission to free Middle Earth of the evil sorcerer. 

"Universe of Evil" - (original) - In a parallel universe, the Super Friends are super villains, the Super Enemies. When Mount Vesuvius erupts in both worlds, Superman and his evil counterpart are blown into opposite worlds, as they were alternatively trying to make and stop an eruption. While Superman has to fight his evil comrades and find a way back to his own world, his evil counterpart battles the real heroes and begins his plan to conquer the Earth.

"Terror at 20,000 Fathoms" (based on 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea) - The evil Capatin Nimoy plots to use nuclear warhead missiles to sink continents below the sea where he plans to rule. Nimoy is aided by an android duplicate of Batman to help him out, but with Superman and Wonder Woman away on a space mission, the Super Friends are aided by Superman's tiny Kandorian friends from the bottle city of Kandor. 

"The Super Friends Meet Frankenstein" - (based on Frankenstein) When a descendant of the original Dr. Frankenstein kidnaps and steals the powers of Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman and transfers them into his latest creation, it's up to Robin to stop the Super-Monster. He transfers the remaining powers into himself, then manages to restore the Super Friends powers. 

"The Planet of Oz" (based on The Wizard Of Oz) - A tornado transports the Hall of Justice to the Land of Oz where Mister Mxyzptlk, who has once again escaped from the 5th Dimension, informs the Super Friends that they must find The Wizard to get home. Along the way they encounter the Wicked Witch of the Worst Kind in a gingerbread house who turns Superman into the Tin Man, Wonder Woman into the Cowardly Lion and Aquaman into the Scarecrow. 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 13, 2013, 05:29:01 PM
I was just flicking around and came across The Odd Couple, with Marilyn Horne (the Opera singer) guest starring.  It was good and boy can that woman sing!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 13, 2013, 05:45:55 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/cheese_zps64d5e11c.jpg)


http://free-classic-tv-shows.com/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 14, 2013, 01:25:09 PM
"Terror at 20,000 Fathoms" (based on 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea) - The evil Captain Nimoy plots to use nuclear warhead missiles to sink continents below the sea where he plans to rule. Nimoy is aided by an android duplicate of Batman to help him out, but with Superman and Wonder Woman away on a space mission, the Super Friends are aided by Superman's tiny Kandorian friends from the bottle city of Kandor. 

You  mean like in "Leonard"?  :o
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 18, 2013, 01:02:19 PM
Well! What an episode of Wagon Train this afternoon! The principal guest star was the movie star Linda Darnell (who never seemed right to me in "period" pieces, but let be, let be), but also appearing in supporting roles were the always reliable John Caradine, a pre-Mannix Mike Connors (always liked his darkly handsome good looks) and a pre-Bonanza Dan Blocker.

We also got to see Flint McCullough with his shirt off, though most of his upper chest was obscured by bandage, as he had been shot in the shoulder. Still it looked as if Robert Horton had a nice spread of chest hair (can be difficult to tell some times in old black-and-white). Linda Darnell got to kiss Horton twice. Lucky woman. ...  ;D

This was one of those series episodes where I'm watching and suddenly go, "OMG that's Dan Blocker!"  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on May 18, 2013, 07:09:40 PM
I was just flicking around and came across The Odd Couple, with Marilyn Horne (the Opera singer) guest starring.  It was good and boy can that woman sing!!

I remember that one!  Her name in the show was Jackie.  She won a Grammy as most promising new opera singer early in her career.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on May 18, 2013, 07:13:49 PM

This was one of those series episodes where I'm watching and suddenly go, "OMG that's Dan Blocker!"  :D


I do that all the time!


But it really pisses people off when he's not in the show we're watching.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 19, 2013, 11:32:49 AM

Lol!

I have an episode of Laugh-In guest starring Dan Blocker.
In one sketch he's in drag! In a brown and white polka dot
ensemble, with a white leather purse.  (Really...brown?)


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 19, 2013, 11:37:00 AM

Saw a rather good episode of Alfred Hitchock this week starring
Peter Lorre and Steve McQueen!

ME-TV is showing 4 hours of ADAM-12 this afternoon.

Saw a Get Smart episode this week and discovered the guest actress
was Gale Sondergaard! She won the very first supporting actress oscar!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 19, 2013, 11:39:24 AM

Wonder if Alfred Hitchcock was ever in drag?


(...or Peter Lorre or Steve McQueen for that matter!)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 19, 2013, 02:26:36 PM
Over supper last night I watched an episode of The Lawrence Welk Show on our local PBS affiliate. My mom and dad and my grandma and grandpa never missed an episode of Welk's show. I'm afraid he was their idea of "high culture"  ::)  but, on the other hand, the episode last night was devoted entirely to Cole Porter's music, so that wasn't so bad.

Of course Mr. Welk pointed out that Wunderbar (title of a song from Porter's musical Kiss Me, Kate) is German for one of his own favorite words, "Wunnerful, wunnerful!"  ;D

Saw a rather good episode of Alfred Hitchock this week starring
Peter Lorre and Steve McQueen!

Dagnabbit, I wish the stations around here would run the Hitchcock show when I can actually watch it.   >:(

I once saw Lorre on an episode of The Jack Benny Program. Except for not having a mustache, in later life, as he appeared on Benny's show, he looked an awful lot like Charles Addams' cartoon Gomez.

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ME-TV is showing 4 hours of ADAM-12 this afternoon.

Four hours of Kent McCord! Dreamy!

Quote
Saw a Get Smart episode this week and discovered the guest actress
was Gale Sondergaard! She won the very first supporting actress oscar!

Would you believe she even lived long enough to appear on Get Smart?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on May 19, 2013, 03:38:18 PM
She lived to be 85, dying in August 1985 (Ironically, just when the movie KISS OF THE SPIDER WOMAN came out!  And NO obit of her mentioned this!).

I'm swooning at the thought of four hours of Kent McCord.  Why couldn't he and George Maharis have co-starred together with NO Martin Milner?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 20, 2013, 12:37:26 PM
I once saw Lorre on an episode of The Jack Benny Program. Except for not having a mustache, in later life, as he appeared on Benny's show, he looked an awful lot like Charles Addams' cartoon Gomez.

You are right!  I saw this episode on ANTENNA-TV recently and you are correct about the
way he looked!

Four hours of Kent McCord! Dreamy!

An acquaintace of mine, born in the mid-70's, when I had mentioned Adam-12/McCord at some
time recently, said that people of my age group that he knows all seem to mention him, he seems
to have been a "thing" for a lot of you.  HEH!

Would you believe she even lived long enough to appear on Get Smart?

Lol! "Wunnerful, wunnerful!"  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 20, 2013, 03:48:44 PM
Over supper last night I watched an episode of The Lawrence Welk Show on our local PBS affiliate. My mom and dad and my grandma and grandpa never missed an episode of Welk's show. I'm afraid he was their idea of "high culture"  ::)  but, on the other hand, the episode last night was devoted entirely to Cole Porter's music, so that wasn't so bad.

Of course Mr. Welk pointed out that Wunderbar (title of a song from Porter's musical Kiss Me, Kate) is German for one of his own favorite words, "Wunnerful, wunnerful!"  ;D



I always watched it, especially the Christmas ones.  I didn't know it wasn't cool to watch! :D  Looking back they all looked like Stepford wives!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 20, 2013, 03:53:54 PM
I remember that one!  Her name in the show was Jackie.  She won a Grammy as most promising new opera singer early in her career.


I thought it was pretty good for a half hour sitcom comedy!   They threw a little culture in there!  ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 20, 2013, 05:23:13 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2327895/Twilight-Zone-actress-Christine-White-dies-86.html


Anyone remember this lady?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 24, 2013, 11:36:25 AM
Last evening I watched three episodes of Magnum, P.I.

Today, being in a philosophical mood, I find myself wondering what it says about me that being thirty years on and well into middle age, I still find Tom Selleck, circa the early 1980s, the epitome of sexiness in a man.  ???

This isn't the place for a discussion about that, so let be, let be.  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 24, 2013, 12:02:02 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2327895/Twilight-Zone-actress-Christine-White-dies-86.html


Anyone remember this lady?

Oh yeah, from this area around DC. The wife in the William Shatner episode.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 28, 2013, 01:14:52 PM

If they haven't already, ME-TV is going to begin airing the TV series IRONSIDE.
(And there's a remake in the works.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 28, 2013, 02:15:55 PM
If they haven't already, ME-TV is going to begin airing the TV series IRONSIDE.
(And there's a remake in the works.)

Yep. Saw a commercial for it last evening during either Bewitched! or I Dream of Jeannie.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 30, 2013, 07:28:36 AM
Because of the service outage, I didn't get to report yesterday that on Tuesday evening's episode of Bewitched!, no less a light than Richard Dreyfuss--a very young Richard Dreyfuss--appeared as Rodney, a young warlock with a crush on Samantha, who used to babysit him.  :)

I just love it when you're watching one of these old shows, and you see somebody before he or she became a big star.

This must have been a second-season episode, as Darrin and Samantha already had Tabitha, although it was still in glorious black and white.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 31, 2013, 07:01:28 AM
Kind o' odd bit of broadcasting of Magnum, P.I. episodes on Cozi-TV last night. In the 9 p.m. hour they showed a pretty amusing Rashomon-kind of episode about a robbery of the King Kamehameha Club, the club Rick manages, told from three points of view, Rick's, T.C.'s, and Higgins'. Then in the 10 p.m. hour they showed Part II of a two-parter (with Sharon Stone as the guest star). Hunh?  ??? Where was Part I?  ???

I figured out where they were going in the Sharon Stone episode. And it wasn't that I remembered it. The show is now so old that I don't remember any of the episodes--or, at least, so far I haven't seen any that I remember.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 31, 2013, 11:41:48 AM

Jeff, I don't know which episode it was, but I happened by one last night
and watched a few minutes. Tom Selleck was wearing the shortest denim
shorts I've ever seen I think, or was that the style in the early 80's?  He
also reminded me of the stereotypical porno star of that era! And, yes,
he was a very attractive guy.

I don't know why that series never had much of an appeal to me, maybe
it was it's timeslot back in the day when you sort of had to watch it when
it aired or not see it. I do remember one episode that intrigued me when it
was done, maybe dreamlike I don't recall, as though Magnum was a 1930's
style Hawaiian private eye. I like John Hillerman, though, especially in the three
(that I recall) Peter Bogdonovich movies he was in. Paper Moon being the biggest
role where he played himself and a cousin.

About 15 years (?) ago there was a lot of talk about having Tom Selleck himself
doing a film version of Magnum, P.I., but I don't know why it never happened.
Lots of talk about things like that, though. Every two years they keep talking
about doing a movie version of Gilligan's Island. There was also talk of Hawaii-Five-O
(but we know that turned into a series remake) and a live action Jetsons and
Bette Midler had the rights for years for a Green Acres movie.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 31, 2013, 12:15:34 PM

I found info about that episode.
It was Season 3 Episode 7 titled "Flashback."

Plot:  Magnum dreams he's in 1936 - populated with versions of his friends - where
he's working for a young woman whose father, a union leader, has been accused of
the murder of a construction magnate.

(http://magnum-mania.com/images/3_7_full.jpg)

This is the first episode in the series to feature lengthy "fantasy" or "dream" sequences
set in the past. Season Seven's "A.A.P.I." and "Murder by Night" are also of the same mold.

It was directed by Ivan Dixon, of Hogan's Heroes.

On this website, this episode is rated #18 in the Top 40 best episodes of the series.
(8 Seasons/162 episodes)

Interestingly, Magnum, P.I.'s first season began after an actors (SAG) strike.
It's first episodes aired December 11th of 1980, so they didn't quite do a full
regular season of episodes, they managed 18 that year. And it's last season
was cut short by the WGA strike in 1988 and they only did 13 episodes in the
final season.

http://magnum-mania.com/Episodes/Season3/Flashback.html

And all this because jeff mentioned watching Magnum, P.I. last night, lol!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 31, 2013, 12:18:55 PM

Egads, I just thought, Magnum, P.I. stopped airing 25 years ago!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 31, 2013, 12:43:03 PM
Because of the service outage, I didn't get to report yesterday that on Tuesday evening's episode of Bewitched!, no less a light than Richard Dreyfuss--a very young Richard Dreyfuss--appeared as Rodney, a young warlock with a crush on Samantha, who used to babysit him.  :)

This must have been a second-season episode, as Darrin and Samantha already had Tabitha, although it was still in glorious black and white.

I was watching a Gidget episode from about the same time 1965-66 and Sally Field and Richard Dreyfuss
had an episode together.  Richard Dreyfuss, who had won his oscar a year before, gave Sally Field her oscar
a year later!  Amazing.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 31, 2013, 01:01:34 PM
I just love it when you're watching one of these old shows, and you see somebody before he or she became a big star.

I enjoy that, too, it's a nice shot of spice while watching something.

It was announced that Naked City - which ME-TV airs in the middle of the nights on Sunday;
the entire series (29 disks) is going to be released on DVD. In the press release they name
some of the guest stars.
  
Includes an incredible cast of guest stars: Dustin Hoffman, Robert Redford, William Shatner, Martin Sheen, Robert Duvall, Rip Torn, Alan Alda, George C. Scott, Telly Savalas, Leslie Nielsen, Dennis Hopper, Peter Fonda, James Caan, Jack Klugman, Dick York, Walter Matthau, Jon Voight, Gene Hackman, Christopher Walken, Carroll O'Connor, Jean Stapleton, Peter Falk, George Segal, Jack Warden, Ed Asner, Doris Roberts, Suzanne Pleshette, Diane Ladd, Vic Morrow, James Coburn, Mickey Rooney, Burgess Meredith and More!

"Most" of these names were relatively unknown at the time, even though they may have appeared in some
other series episodes or had small parts in films. I don't think most of us think of Christopher Walken as going back that far. He'd been in the business for at least 15 years by 1978 when most of us came to know him for The Deer Hunter and winning the oscar for it. In fact, he appeared in small roles on TV when he was a child, even things like The Colgate Comedy Hour with Martin & Lewis! Around 1962 he appeared in the musical revival of Best Foot Foward with Liza Minnelli in her first Broadway show. He's been married nearly 45 years!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 31, 2013, 01:12:23 PM
Jeff, I don't know which episode it was, but I happened by one last night
and watched a few minutes. Tom Selleck was wearing the shortest denim
shorts I've ever seen I think, or was that the style in the early 80's?  He
also reminded me of the stereotypical porno star of that era! And, yes,
he was a very attractive guy.

They certainly did put Selleck in some shorts that would have made Daisy Duke blush--and jeans so tight in the crotch that I don't know how he was able to move.  :D

Egads, I just thought, Magnum, P.I. stopped airing 25 years ago!

Yeah, kinda scary to think that, isn't it?  :-\

(http://magnum-mania.com/images/3_7_full.jpg)

Tom Selleck was too big for that car!  ;D

Quote
It was directed by Ivan Dixon, of Hogan's Heroes.

Always kind of interesting when you recognize the name of a former actor as a director.

The name Eric Laneuville comes to my mind, right off the top of my head. I believe he acted on Room 222--along with Denise Nicholas, who was a guest on what I called the Rashomon-like Magnum episode last night.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 31, 2013, 04:35:33 PM
I enjoy that, too, it's a nice shot of spice while watching something.

It was announced that Naked City - which ME-TV airs in the middle of the nights on Sunday;
the entire series (29 disks) is going to be released on DVD. In the press release they name
some of the guest stars.
 
Includes an incredible cast of guest stars: Dustin Hoffman, Robert Redford, William Shatner, Martin Sheen, Robert Duvall, Rip Torn, Alan Alda, George C. Scott, Telly Savalas, Leslie Nielsen, Dennis Hopper, Peter Fonda, James Caan, Jack Klugman, Dick York, Walter Matthau, Jon Voight, Gene Hackman, Christopher Walken, Carroll O'Connor, Jean Stapleton, Peter Falk, George Segal, Jack Warden, Ed Asner, Doris Roberts, Suzanne Pleshette, Diane Ladd, Vic Morrow, James Coburn, Mickey Rooney, Burgess Meredith and More!

"Most" of these names were relatively unknown at the time, even though they may have appeared in some
other series episodes or had small parts in films. I don't think most of us think of Christopher Walken as going back that far. He'd been in the business for at least 15 years by 1978 when most of us came to know him for The Deer Hunter and winning the oscar for it. In fact, he appeared in small roles on TV when he was a child, even things like The Colgate Comedy Hour with Martin & Lewis! Around 1962 he appeared in the musical revival of Best Foot Foward with Liza Minnelli in her first Broadway show. He's been married nearly 45 years!



I vaguely remember this show. I was 6 yo to 11 yo when it was on TV. When I saw the YouTube blurb about it, it brought back some memories.

http://youtu.be/-DIA_PtIZfc

We pretty much watched what my Dad watched.

I have Dish Network and don't have an old TV series station, much to my regret.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on May 31, 2013, 10:19:11 PM
Last evening I watched three episodes of Magnum, P.I.

Today, being in a philosophical mood, I find myself wondering what it says about me that being thirty years on and well into middle age, I still find Tom Selleck, circa the early 1980s, the epitome of sexiness in a man.  ???

This isn't the place for a discussion about that, so let be, let be.  :-\

Well Jeff, when you find the place let me know so I can contribute to the discussion.  Or you and I can just discuss it.  Because I so agree with you!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on May 31, 2013, 10:23:47 PM
Because of the service outage, I didn't get to report yesterday that on Tuesday evening's episode of Bewitched!, no less a light than Richard Dreyfuss--a very young Richard Dreyfuss--appeared as Rodney, a young warlock with a crush on Samantha, who used to babysit him.  :)

I just love it when you're watching one of these old shows, and you see somebody before he or she became a big star.

This must have been a second-season episode, as Darrin and Samantha already had Tabitha, although it was still in glorious black and white.

It came late in the second season (May 12, 1966), because it features Mary Grace Canfield in one of her three appearances as Harriet Kravitz, Abner's sister.  (Alice Pearce had recently died and they hadn't recast Gladys yet.)  I love Canfield's face when Rodney, in a smoking jacket, calls her "Honey" and then says that he and Sam are having a little snort.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 01, 2013, 08:32:12 AM
It came late in the second season (May 12, 1966), because it features Mary Grace Canfield in one of her three appearances as Harriet Kravitz, Abner's sister.  (Alice Pearce had recently died and they hadn't recast Gladys yet.)  I love Canfield's face when Rodney, in a smoking jacket, calls her "Honey" and then says that he and Sam are having a little snort.

That's right! She was there! Gee! You really know Bewitched!  :)

And which "brother" was she on Green Acres, Ralph or Alf?  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 01, 2013, 08:34:37 AM
(Re: Tom Selleck circa 1980 as the epitome of male sexiness)

Well Jeff, when you find the place let me know so I can contribute to the discussion.  Or you and I can just discuss it.  Because I so agree with you!

Thanks for that! It's good to know I'm not alone. Maybe I'm not just stuck in my own past after all!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on June 01, 2013, 09:50:07 AM
I found Tom Selleck very sexy too! Earl used to make fun of me whenever I'd comment about him!  :D

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on June 01, 2013, 11:09:38 AM


And which "brother" was she on Green Acres, Ralph or Alf?  ;D


Uh, that would be Ralph.

She is still alive at 88 and lives in Maine.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 01, 2013, 11:11:27 AM

(http://magnum-mania.com/images/magnum_pi_tv_guide_4.jpg) (http://magnum-mania.com/images/magnum_pi_tv_guide_2.jpg) (http://magnum-mania.com/images/magnum_pi_tv_guide_3.jpg) (http://magnum-mania.com/images/magnum_pi_tv_guide_6.jpg) (http://magnum-mania.com/images/magnum_pi_tv_guide_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 01, 2013, 12:39:35 PM

Uh, that would be Ralph.

She is still alive at 88 and lives in Maine.

Thanks! God bless her! It's been a long time since I've seen an episode of Green Acres.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 01, 2013, 12:48:07 PM
Tell you what, I remember when I saw The Big Chill that I got the biggest kick out of the fact that Tom Berenger's character was the star of a TV show that was clearly a Magnum, P.I. parody. Berenger even had the Magnum hair and pornstache.  :D

(I really like that cover with Selleck and John Hillerman.)

(http://magnum-mania.com/images/magnum_pi_tv_guide_4.jpg) (http://magnum-mania.com/images/magnum_pi_tv_guide_2.jpg) (http://magnum-mania.com/images/magnum_pi_tv_guide_3.jpg) (http://magnum-mania.com/images/magnum_pi_tv_guide_6.jpg) (http://magnum-mania.com/images/magnum_pi_tv_guide_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on June 01, 2013, 01:02:19 PM
(Re: Tom Selleck circa 1980 as the epitome of male sexiness)

Thanks for that! It's good to know I'm not alone. Maybe I'm not just stuck in my own past after all!  :D

I had a HUGE crush on Tom Selleck, still do. I heard no end of it from Rick and when the boys got old enough, them as well.
I actually have a bigger crush on him now from "Blue Bloods". He is one of a few actors whom I think are better looking now than he was when he was young.
Sean Connery comes to mind with this thought.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on June 01, 2013, 01:46:20 PM
And me, of course.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on June 01, 2013, 02:46:23 PM
And me, of course.

And YOU of course, Mark!! ::) ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on June 01, 2013, 03:13:21 PM
Jean Stapleton dies at 90.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-jean-stapleton-dies-at-90-20130601,0,2810680.story

R.I.P.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 01, 2013, 04:19:50 PM
Jean Stapleton dies at 90.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-jean-stapleton-dies-at-90-20130601,0,2810680.story

R.I.P.

Just heard that on NBC. RIP, indeed.

"Aw-w-w-chie!"  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 01, 2013, 04:21:35 PM
I had a HUGE crush on Tom Selleck, still do. I heard no end of it from Rick and when the boys got old enough, them as well.
I actually have a bigger crush on him now from "Blue Bloods". He is one of a few actors whom I think are better looking now than he was when he was young.
Sean Connery comes to mind with this thought.

Sean Connery (may he live forever!) is gonna look better when he's dead than some people look alive. ...   :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on June 01, 2013, 05:28:46 PM
Just heard that on NBC. RIP, indeed.

"Aw-w-w-chie!"  :)

:)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on June 01, 2013, 05:32:35 PM
Sean Connery (may he live forever!) is gonna look better when he's dead than some people look alive. ...   :-\

Absolutely!!
And he has done it without cosmetic surgery and hair pieces.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 08, 2013, 03:08:07 PM
Interesting guest stars on today's Westerns:

Agnes Moorhead on The Rebel (sorry I missed all but the final few minutes of the episode), and the very handsome Tom Tryon on Wagon Train (an episode from the first season).
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on June 09, 2013, 05:38:45 AM
Tom Tryon was quite easy on the eyes. Very handsome indeed.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 09, 2013, 07:09:01 AM
I would try him on!


(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LIFzvgNXSW0/UPWxHP6QgNI/AAAAAAAAIwY/2H9KtN8styg/s1600/tom-tryon-1956.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 09, 2013, 12:30:17 PM
I would try him on!

You bet!

Tell you what, though. Watching him in that Wagon Train episode got me thinking about how "some things" have changed since the end of the 1950s. Tryon played a character whose father was white and mother was Cheyenne. He decided to join his mother's people, and there was a scene of some sort of adoption ceremony that involved Tryon being tied up wearing just a loincloth (yee haw!  :D ). What struck me was that there was absolutely nothing at all remarkable about his body. He wasn't overweight, there was no flab, and his stomach was flat, but there was also no muscular development, no bulging biceps, no "pecs," no "six-pack" (certainly no "eight-pack"). Seems to me that nowadays we would expect a young male star doing a scene like that to have the body of young Greek god. I guess "back then," as long as the actor wasn't overweight, flabby, saggy, etc., it was "all about the face," and Tryon certainly did have "matinee idol" good looks.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on June 09, 2013, 02:27:22 PM
And he was gay, to boot!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 09, 2013, 02:49:11 PM
Multitalented, too. He was also an author.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 10, 2013, 08:17:59 AM
And he was gay, to boot!

And according to Wikipedia, one of his lovers was porn star Casey Donovan.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 10, 2013, 11:00:35 AM
Tell you what, though. Watching him in that Wagon Train episode got me thinking about how "some things" have changed since the end of the 1950s. Tryon played a character whose father was white and mother was Cheyenne. He decided to join his mother's people, and there was a scene of some sort of adoption ceremony that involved Tryon being tied up wearing just a loincloth (yee haw!  :D ). What struck me was that there was absolutely nothing at all remarkable about his body. He wasn't overweight, there was no flab, and his stomach was flat, but there was also no muscular development, no bulging biceps, no "pecs," no "six-pack" (certainly no "eight-back"). Seems to me that nowadays we would expect a young male star doing a scene like that to have the body of young Greek god. I guess "back then," as long as the actor wasn't overweight, flabby, saggy, etc., it was "all about the face," and Tryon certainly did have "matinee idol" good looks.

Since I happened to read something recently that is in align with what you wrote, I will mention it.
I believe what you are talking about actually took shape in the 80's. If you look at all the shirtless boys in the
Woodstock documentary (1969) or documentaries detailing protests and the like in the early 70's, you'll see the
same type of body on most young males as you are describing above.

There was a recent article about assessing current male body images that was talking about what you mention.
The article was talking about how over the past thirty years men have become more dissatified with their bodies
and experienced the type of thing that women were known to experience (not living up to the media images of
how women were portrayed) and in the 80's, with the prolifieration of more media avenues, males were portrayed
in ways that men found comparing themselves to and since they didn't look like that they began feeling more negative
about themselves. The quote, the best I can recall it that I remember is:

Although a muscular body has been idealized for a number of years, the importance of attaining this ideal has become stronger. This is reflected in part through an increase in the degree of muscularity of male bodies displayed in the media.

I tried to find the article just now, but can't find the exact one I was reading.  But here's a few other
quotes from a study I found now that were paralleling the article I did read:

--The exact nature of male body image concerns appears to have been neglected by the paradigm of research emphasizing thinness because males are more concerned with a muscular appearance.

--Male body image issues have become more prevalent due to the increase in valuation of the muscular male body in the visual media of Western cultures. Arguably, this media influence has caused a rise in the number of males experiencing dissatisfaction and, in turn, an increased incidence of clinically significant body image disturbance.

--Given these concerns, it is imperative to determine which methods are appropriate in assessing how males perceive, think, and behave with respect to their bodies. The arguments here hinge on the assumption that the concept of muscularity is an essential feature of how males think about their bodies. This is reflected in part through an increase in the degree of muscularity of male bodies displayed in the media. A 1999 study assessed the physiques of male action toys and found that the figures have grown significantly more muscular over the last 20 to 35 years. Another study assessed the body compositions of Playgirl centerfold models over the last 25 years and found that the average model gained 27 pounds of muscle and lost 12 pounds of fat.


I guess the conclusion was that in the days before the 80's (1975 seems to be a kind of turning point) that a body most males thought of to be an ideal is much the same as now, but the contant visual/media pressure to conform to that was not present, but has become increasingly so and now males are more inclined to be unhappy they don't conform to the media images that did not use to be so prevalent.

It's the old "societal pressure" to conform in ways that might not matter or be healthy for all concerned.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 10, 2013, 01:18:00 PM
I don't mean to continue to lead the discussion OT, but I've also read, somewhere, a long time ago, a claim that along about the 1970s--just about the time Lyle mentions--gay men discovered that they got more sex--or got more opportunities for sex--if they had more muscular, athletic bodies--and since gay men are fashion leaders for the rest of society. ...  ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on June 12, 2013, 08:57:53 PM
Jean Stapleton dies at 90.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-jean-stapleton-dies-at-90-20130601,0,2810680.story

R.I.P.

I was just so sorry to hear this!!  :'( :'(


I have been busy lately, moved house..........but have been thinking about this thread, watched an I love Lucy the other day, Lucy and Ethel wallpapering, too funny!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 14, 2013, 01:02:05 PM

There was no additional information about this, just a blurb in the current issue
of Entertainment Weekly that stated:

There are currently three new retro channels being developed that will carry
programming from the 1960's, 1970's and 1980's.

One channel for each decade I'm assuming.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on June 14, 2013, 03:44:51 PM
"We is Lucy and Ethel paperhanger."--LMAO!

Keep us posted on these channels, Lyle.

Not that I have cable, though.     :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on June 14, 2013, 06:47:06 PM
She papered the window and Ethel! lol
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 21, 2013, 10:58:53 AM
I saw somebody post this on another board. It's an article about advertising to the LGBT community.

http://www.cbc.ca/undertheinfluence/season-1/2012/06/02/lgbt-advertising-chasing-the-pink-dollar/

This article was interesting. It talked about a sitcom that was the first to have a regular gay character
in it and I'd never heard of it before. The Corner Bar. It ran two summer seasons in 1972-73 on ABC.
(16 episodes total.)

I had thought Hot L Baltimore was on when I was in high school, before The Corner Bar, but it turns
out it wasn't on until 1975. Although the info I looked up said it was the first sitcom to have a gay couple
(an aging gay couple, it says) on as regulars. (George and Gordon.) Hot L Baltimore also had prostitutes
and drug addicts on it. It was a Norman Lear sitcom based on a play. (If you don't know, Hot L Baltimore
meant HOTEL BALTIMORE with the "E" in its lighted sign burned out, therefore HOT L BALTIMORE, and
it took place in a hotel.)

Vincent Shiavelli played the gay character Peter Panama in The Corner Bar.
He was a patron and played a Broadway set designer. You may remember
him as one of the patients in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

Anyway, when I was looking up to see when Hot L Baltimore aired I came across this very
interesting site. It's a list compiled by a very resourceful Canadian of Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual
television characters and the shows they were on along with a lot of other pertinent information.

http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~wyatt/tv-characters.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Sara B on June 21, 2013, 11:28:52 AM
Very interesting - thanks, Lyle. Brought back a lot of series that I'd forgotten.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on June 21, 2013, 02:07:07 PM
Wow! Look at the huge increase in gay/lesbian/Bisexual characters documented from 1961 to present. 1 in 1961 to 803 to present (6/2013) !
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 21, 2013, 09:44:50 PM
I'm watching Golden Girls, it's the episode where Blanche's brother Clayton shows up with his partner Doug, and they announce they're getting married.



(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120822231554/goldengirls/images/e/e6/Doug.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on June 21, 2013, 09:52:30 PM
One of my top ten GG episodes!  Too many great lines to count!

Love this one:  "You'll have to excuse my mother.  She survived a slight stroke which left her, if I can be frank, a complete burden."


P.S.  And Michael Ayr as Doug--hubba hubba!  I thought he was just dreamy!  I've tried to find a recent photo of him or get some bio info on him but to no avail in either case.  Darn.  He sure was cute and not a bad actor.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 21, 2013, 10:14:43 PM
Yeah, I can't find one of him now either.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 21, 2013, 10:26:35 PM
"doug will bend over backwards for me!"

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on June 21, 2013, 10:32:25 PM
There must be homosexuals who date women!

Yeah, they're called lesbians!

 :D    :D    :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on June 21, 2013, 10:34:34 PM
And Sophia has that beautiful speech near the end:

"Everyone wants someone to grow old with.  And shouldn't everyone have that chance?"

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on June 23, 2013, 02:39:29 AM
i'm re entering somewhere near short shorts.... and short memories.

yes tom selleck wore shorts of the day, at least of the day for florida, california and hawaii, and the rest of the nation wasn't much further behind.  if you jog your memories, you probably can remember the geeky relative that always seemed to have one testicle or both hanging out at the most inappropriate times, not that there I
and appropriate time.  i have been bemoaning for years the change in basketball shorts.  what morons thought that SKORTS were the right attire for fit 7'athletes i don't know, may he burn in hell.
(http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/17/05/80/69/notre_10.jpg)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on June 23, 2013, 02:43:58 AM
and does anyone remember the running shorts not long after, especially around the time of " the front runner?  two little overlapping nylon pieces joined only at the taint and waistband.  the made their way into discos and skating rinks as well.

(http://www.acefitness.org/newsletters/archive/2009-11-top25fitnessappareltrends/shortshorts.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on June 23, 2013, 02:49:44 AM
now i know some of you are too young to remember, but some of you aren't, but xanadu on broadway made a star of cheyenne jackson
(http://tucsoncitizen.com/morgue/files/2007/07/l57784-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 23, 2013, 12:58:19 PM
i have been bemoaning for years the change in basketball shorts.
what morons thought that SKORTS were the right attire for fit
7'athletes i don't know

Agree, once in awhile I wonder about why and when that happened?
Was there a reason?

now i know some of you are too young to remember, but some of you aren't, but xanadu on broadway made a star of cheyenne jackson

He was already a star to me... :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 23, 2013, 02:28:00 PM
and does anyone remember the running shorts not long after, especially around the time of " the front runner?  two little overlapping nylon pieces joined only at the taint and waistband.  the made their way into discos and skating rinks as well.

(http://www.acefitness.org/newsletters/archive/2009-11-top25fitnessappareltrends/shortshorts.jpg)

"Ah, yes, I remember it well. ..."  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: canmark on June 23, 2013, 06:57:46 PM
now i know some of you are too young to remember, but some of you aren't, but xanadu on broadway made a star of cheyenne jackson
(http://tucsoncitizen.com/morgue/files/2007/07/l57784-1.jpg)

I had the good fortune of seeing Xanadu on Broadway.

Not endorsing bootlegs... but here's one of Xanadu (the whole show!) that someone posted on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_-mYomx1nw
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on June 26, 2013, 07:04:14 AM
He was already a star to me... :)
well, there was a run as the frank n furter monster in rocky horror on broadway in gold lame shorts and gladiator sandals too, i believe.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on June 26, 2013, 07:11:03 AM
"Ah, yes, I remember it well. ..."  :)
especially on pole vaulters and high jumpers...

and decathletes (bruce jenner when he was hot, and before someone convinced him he needed plastic surgery.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on June 27, 2013, 07:21:04 PM
Amen, Jack.  I would love to have the physique--and hair, and nose--that Jenner had at the 1976 Olympics.  Why did he mess so much with his appearance?  How can some people not know they are good-looking?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 27, 2013, 07:41:20 PM
Amen, Jack.  I would love to have the physique--and hair, and nose--that Jenner had at the 1976 Olympics.  Why did he mess so much with his appearance?  How can some people not know they are good-looking?

Body dysmorphic disorder.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on June 29, 2013, 04:35:47 AM
or just low self esteem.  according to jenner, recalling from memory, someone convinced him that a tweak here and a tweak there would improve his marketability for movies and tv.  the job, of course, was horribly botched, and it has taken several surgeries, mostly within the last decade or so to tone things down to an almost normal appearance.  he rued the day...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 29, 2013, 09:02:38 AM
How can some people not know they are good-looking?

Body dysmorphic disorder.

or just low self esteem.

I think they usually go hand-in-hand. But I'm straying OT here. ...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on June 30, 2013, 07:01:19 PM
OK, BACK ON TOPIC, DAMMIT!   ;)


Here is a show that I'd love to see in reruns or on DVD:

THE DEFENDERS (1961-65).


WHY doesn't MeTV or some nostalgia station broadcast it?!?  132 episodes, 14 Emmy wins, by all accounts one of the best dramatic shows in TV history.  Where is it?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 01, 2013, 08:09:23 AM
Saw a couple of episodes of Thriller last night. Good show.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 01, 2013, 10:28:58 AM

I had never seen that show until a few weeks ago when I was visiting a friend who has it on
dvd and we watched an episode.  A scene came on with a man and a woman and we
remarked that it was a very young Marion Ross.  And the very next thing that happened
is that the man lifted up his glass of champagne toward her and said, "Happy days!"
LOL!  That was so unbelievable that we couldn't help but laugh and had to rewatch that!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 04, 2013, 10:35:37 AM

I came across an episode of The Virginian on the COZI tv channel last night
and was able to watch a half hour of it. (They were 90 min. shows.) It
seemed like it was a two person, mostly, story and Doug McClure was one
of the two.  Sigh. He was even wearing the same outfit below:

As for westerns, I can't say I'm a huge fan of them, but anyone watching
TV in the 60's watched them becasue there were so many on. I always had
my eye on Doug McClure in The Virginian, though.

(http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/54/5487/MVQKG00Z/posters/doug-mcclure-the-virginian.jpg)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on July 10, 2013, 08:07:16 AM
Oh, Lyle, you little TRAMP(AS)!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on July 10, 2013, 02:12:18 PM
Doug McClure was always pleasant to the eye.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on July 13, 2013, 06:26:47 PM
Doug was a cutie that's for sure!  He was in so many things!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_McClure
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 13, 2013, 07:02:36 PM
I used to watch this show, and remember when the father was killed, and the mother left the series.   I never knew there were conflicts behind-the-scenes.


(http://cdn.tss.uproxx.com/TSS/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/good-times.jpg)


Good Times is an American sitcom that originally aired from February 8, 1974, until August 1, 1979, on the CBS television network. It was created by Eric Monte and Mike Evans, and developed by Norman Lear, the series' primary executive producer. Good Times is a spin-off of Maude, which is itself a spin-off of All in the Family along with The Jeffersons.  The series is set in Chicago. The first two seasons were taped at CBS Television City in Hollywood. In the fall of 1975, the show moved to Metromedia Square, where Norman Lear's own production company was housed.

The series stars Esther Rolle as Florida Evans and John Amos as her husband, James Evans, Sr. The characters originated on the sitcom Maude as Florida and Henry Evans, with Florida employed as Maude Findlay's housekeeper in Tuckahoe, New York and Henry employed as a firefighter. When producers decided to feature the Florida character in her own show, they applied retroactive changes to the characters' history. Henry's name became James, there is no mention of Maude, and the couple now live in Chicago.

Florida and James Evans and their three children live in a rented project apartment, in a housing project in a poor, black neighborhood in inner-city Chicago. Florida's and James's children are James, Jr., also known as "J.J." (Jimmie Walker), Thelma (Bern Nadette Stanis), and Michael (Ralph Carter). When the series begins, J.J. and Thelma are seventeen and sixteen years old, respectively, and Michael, called "the militant midget" by his father due to his passionate activism, is eleven years old. Their exuberant neighbor, and Florida's best friend, is Willona Woods (played by Ja'net Dubois), a recent divorcée who works at a boutique. Their building superintendent is Nathan Bookman (Johnny Brown), to whom James, Willona and later J.J. refer as "Buffalo Butt", or, even more derisively, "Booger".

Good Times was intended to be a vehicle for Esther Rolle and John Amos. Both expected the show to deal with serious topics (in a comedic way) while also providing positive characters for viewers. However, the character of J.J. was an immediate hit with audiences and became the breakout character of the series. J.J.'s frequent use of the word "Dy-no-mite!" (he also referred to himself as "Kid Dy-no-mite!") became a popular catchphrase. As a result of the character's popularity, writers focused more on J.J.'s comedic antics instead of serious issues. As the series progressed through seasons two and three, Rolle and Amos grew increasingly disillusioned with the direction the show was taking, especially with J.J.'s antics and stereotypically buffoonish behavior in the storylines. Although she had no ill-will against Jimmie Walker himself, Rolle was rather vocal about her dislike of Walker's character. In a 1975 interview with Ebony magazine she stated:


"He's 18 and he doesn't work. He can't read or write. He doesn't think. The show didn't start out to be that...Little by little—with the help of the artist, I suppose, because they couldn't do that to me—they have made J.J. more stupid and enlarged the role. Negative images have been slipped in on us through the character of the oldest child."

Although doing so less publicly, Amos also was outspoken about his dissatisfaction with the J.J. character. Amos stated:

"The writers would prefer to put a chicken hat on J.J. and have him prance around saying "DY-NO-MITE", and that way they could waste a few minutes and not have to write meaningful dialogue."

While John Amos was less public with his dissatisfaction, he was ultimately fired after season three because of his behind the scenes fights with Norman Lear. Amos' departure was initially attributed to his desire to focus on a film career, but Amos admitted in a 1976 interview that Norman Lear called him and told him that his contract option with the show was not being picked up. Amos stated, "That's the same thing as being fired." The producers decided not to recast the character of James Evans, instead opting to kill off the character in the two-part season four episode "The Big Move".

By the end of season four, Esther Rolle had also become dissatisfied with the show's direction and decided to leave the series. In the final two episodes of the season, Rolle's character gets engaged to Carl Dixon (Moses Gunn), a man she began dating towards the middle of season four. In the season five premiere episode, it is revealed that Florida and Carl married off screen and moved to Arizona for the sake of Carl's health.

Before taping of season six began, CBS and the show's producers decided that they had to do "something drastic" to increase viewership. According to then-vice president of CBS programming Steve Mills, "We had lost the essence of the show. Without parental guidance the show slipped. Everything told us that: our mail, our phone calls, our research. We felt we had to go back to basics."  Producers approached Esther Rolle with an offer to appear in a guest spot on the series. Rolle was initially hesitant but when producers agreed to a number of her demands (including an increased salary and higher quality scripts), she agreed to return to the series on a full-time basis. Rolle also wanted producers make the character of J. J. more responsible as she felt the character was a poor role model for African American youths. She also requested that producers write out the character of Carl Dixon. Rolle reportedly disliked the storyline surrounding the Carl Dixon character, as she believed Florida would not have moved on so quickly after James' death or leave her children. Rolle also thought the writers had disregarded Florida's devout Christian beliefs by having her fall for and marry Carl, who was an atheist
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on July 13, 2013, 07:17:21 PM
Wow! I hadn't heard about any of that either.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 13, 2013, 07:56:31 PM
I know, it took me by surprise!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 27, 2013, 02:26:16 PM
I came across an episode of The Virginian on the COZI tv channel last night
and was able to watch a half hour of it. (They were 90 min. shows.) It
seemed like it was a two person, mostly, story and Doug McClure was one
of the two.

McClure was the guest star on one of the episodes of Magnum, P.I. that I saw Thursday night. He was still playing a cowboy: The episode was mostly set on a ranch on the Big Island and the plot concerned native Hawaiian cowboys and cattle rustling.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 27, 2013, 02:31:44 PM
Weird experience this morning. One of the episodes of The Rebel had a supporting character (who didn't even have a name, he was just a stage coach stop attendant) whom I would have sworn was Lee Majors before he became Lee Majors, but apparently he wasn't. I guess the show may have been a little bit too early, but this guy had eyes and a voice--and biceps--that sure reminded me of Lee Majors.  :-\ (He had a full beard, which could have been fake, so the face was pretty much obscured.)

The main featured guest star was actress Patricia Medina. This was also now the second episode of The Rebel that I've seen that featured a pre-Virginian James Drury.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 27, 2013, 06:36:09 PM
(http://www.tampabay.com/resources/images/blogs/80s/50945.6a00d83451b05569e20120a5bb168e970b-450wi.jpg)


I remember staying up late to watch The Love Boat.   Loved that show!  LOL  The guest stars were sooooo funny!  Charo always seemed to be on.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 27, 2013, 06:36:35 PM
and I remember thinking that Fred Grandy wad cute.


(http://dailyman40.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/fred-grandy-as-Your-Yeoman-Purser-65-660x330.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on July 28, 2013, 05:20:51 PM
My best friend's Mom (when I was growing up) was in love with Doc.  We didn't dare speak when Love Boat came on.  It was a great show, I would like to see it in reruns, see if it holds up.


I also liked:


Love, American Style is a comedic television anthology, which was produced by Paramount Television and originally aired between 1969 and 1974. For the 1971 and 1972 seasons it was a part of an ABC Friday prime-time lineup that also included The Brady Bunch, The Partridge Family, Room 222, and The Odd Couple.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love,_American_Style
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on July 28, 2013, 06:15:11 PM
ah, the rebel...

another actor i had a lust for.  something about nick adams was seriously sexy.  he had a smidgen of whatever that fatalistic charm that james dean had, but i suppose he, like several more successful actors, could really only play versions of himself.  the johnny reb cap suited him well, though.
 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on July 28, 2013, 07:06:05 PM
Oh yeah. Serious crush too.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 29, 2013, 09:13:31 AM
My best friend's Mom (when I was growing up) was in love with Doc.  We didn't dare speak when Love Boat came on.  It was a great show, I would like to see it in reruns, see if it holds up.

Doc? Doc? Seriously?


Quote
I also liked:


Love, American Style is a comedic television anthology, which was produced by Paramount Television and originally aired between 1969 and 1974. For the 1971 and 1972 seasons it was a part of an ABC Friday prime-time lineup that also included The Brady Bunch, The Partridge Family, Room 222, and The Odd Couple.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love,_American_Style

Oh, boy, do I remember that lineup well!

Speaking of Room 222, from time to time I used to see Eric Laneuville listed as a director on different shows, so I guess he ended up going behind the camera.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 29, 2013, 09:14:34 AM
ah, the rebel...

another actor i had a lust for.  something about nick adams was seriously sexy.  he had a smidgen of whatever that fatalistic charm that james dean had, but i suppose he, like several more successful actors, could really only play versions of himself.  the johnny reb cap suited him well, though.

You bet!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on July 29, 2013, 06:06:17 PM
Doc? Doc? Seriously?


Oh, boy, do I remember that lineup well!

Speaking of Room 222, from time to time I used to see Eric Laneuville listed as a director on different shows, so I guess he ended up going behind the camera.


 :D

Check this out:

http://kopell.tripod.com/pages/loveboat.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on August 06, 2013, 05:59:59 PM
Loved Room 222 and thought even at age 10 how handsome and suave Lloyd Haynes was.  So sad that he died so young, at 45 (I believe) in 1986.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on August 06, 2013, 06:50:26 PM
I used to watch this show, and remember when the father was killed, and the mother left the series.   I never knew there were conflicts behind-the-scenes.


(http://cdn.tss.uproxx.com/TSS/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/good-times.jpg)


Good Times is an American sitcom that originally aired from February 8, 1974, until August 1, 1979, on the CBS television network. It was created by Eric Monte and Mike Evans, and developed by Norman Lear, the series' primary executive producer. Good Times is a spin-off of Maude, which is itself a spin-off of All in the Family along with The Jeffersons.  The series is set in Chicago. The first two seasons were taped at CBS Television City in Hollywood. In the fall of 1975, the show moved to Metromedia Square, where Norman Lear's own production company was housed.

The series stars Esther Rolle as Florida Evans and John Amos as her husband, James Evans, Sr. The characters originated on the sitcom Maude as Florida and Henry Evans, with Florida employed as Maude Findlay's housekeeper in Tuckahoe, New York and Henry employed as a firefighter. When producers decided to feature the Florida character in her own show, they applied retroactive changes to the characters' history. Henry's name became James, there is no mention of Maude, and the couple now live in Chicago.

Florida and James Evans and their three children live in a rented project apartment, in a housing project in a poor, black neighborhood in inner-city Chicago. Florida's and James's children are James, Jr., also known as "J.J." (Jimmie Walker), Thelma (Bern Nadette Stanis), and Michael (Ralph Carter). When the series begins, J.J. and Thelma are seventeen and sixteen years old, respectively, and Michael, called "the militant midget" by his father due to his passionate activism, is eleven years old. Their exuberant neighbor, and Florida's best friend, is Willona Woods (played by Ja'net Dubois), a recent divorcée who works at a boutique. Their building superintendent is Nathan Bookman (Johnny Brown), to whom James, Willona and later J.J. refer as "Buffalo Butt", or, even more derisively, "Booger".

Good Times was intended to be a vehicle for Esther Rolle and John Amos. Both expected the show to deal with serious topics (in a comedic way) while also providing positive characters for viewers. However, the character of J.J. was an immediate hit with audiences and became the breakout character of the series. J.J.'s frequent use of the word "Dy-no-mite!" (he also referred to himself as "Kid Dy-no-mite!") became a popular catchphrase. As a result of the character's popularity, writers focused more on J.J.'s comedic antics instead of serious issues. As the series progressed through seasons two and three, Rolle and Amos grew increasingly disillusioned with the direction the show was taking, especially with J.J.'s antics and stereotypically buffoonish behavior in the storylines. Although she had no ill-will against Jimmie Walker himself, Rolle was rather vocal about her dislike of Walker's character. In a 1975 interview with Ebony magazine she stated:


"He's 18 and he doesn't work. He can't read or write. He doesn't think. The show didn't start out to be that...Little by little—with the help of the artist, I suppose, because they couldn't do that to me—they have made J.J. more stupid and enlarged the role. Negative images have been slipped in on us through the character of the oldest child."

Although doing so less publicly, Amos also was outspoken about his dissatisfaction with the J.J. character. Amos stated:

"The writers would prefer to put a chicken hat on J.J. and have him prance around saying "DY-NO-MITE", and that way they could waste a few minutes and not have to write meaningful dialogue."

While John Amos was less public with his dissatisfaction, he was ultimately fired after season three because of his behind the scenes fights with Norman Lear. Amos' departure was initially attributed to his desire to focus on a film career, but Amos admitted in a 1976 interview that Norman Lear called him and told him that his contract option with the show was not being picked up. Amos stated, "That's the same thing as being fired." The producers decided not to recast the character of James Evans, instead opting to kill off the character in the two-part season four episode "The Big Move".

By the end of season four, Esther Rolle had also become dissatisfied with the show's direction and decided to leave the series. In the final two episodes of the season, Rolle's character gets engaged to Carl Dixon (Moses Gunn), a man she began dating towards the middle of season four. In the season five premiere episode, it is revealed that Florida and Carl married off screen and moved to Arizona for the sake of Carl's health.

Before taping of season six began, CBS and the show's producers decided that they had to do "something drastic" to increase viewership. According to then-vice president of CBS programming Steve Mills, "We had lost the essence of the show. Without parental guidance the show slipped. Everything told us that: our mail, our phone calls, our research. We felt we had to go back to basics."  Producers approached Esther Rolle with an offer to appear in a guest spot on the series. Rolle was initially hesitant but when producers agreed to a number of her demands (including an increased salary and higher quality scripts), she agreed to return to the series on a full-time basis. Rolle also wanted producers make the character of J. J. more responsible as she felt the character was a poor role model for African American youths. She also requested that producers write out the character of Carl Dixon. Rolle reportedly disliked the storyline surrounding the Carl Dixon character, as she believed Florida would not have moved on so quickly after James' death or leave her children. Rolle also thought the writers had disregarded Florida's devout Christian beliefs by having her fall for and marry Carl, who was an atheist

Rolle didn't want her character to fall in love with an atheist but I disagree with her as that would not have disregarded her character's religious beliefs.  I think Rolle's opinion reflects prejudice towards atheists and I am an atheist but I don't care for her opinion.  Well, many religious blacks are probably married to atheists. There's nothing wrong with that.  I am formerly religious and I would not have acted like that even when I was religious despite my differences in beliefs with an atheist.  My husband is spiritual-but-not-religious and he has kindly put up with my atheism even if he is not entirely comfortable with it and he also dealt with my 30 years of religious exploration after leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses at 22 years old having been brought up in that particular fundamentalist Christian denomination by my control-freak of a mother whom I no longer speak to.  My dad is a Seventh-day Adventist and we talk occasionally.  He tries to be as understanding as he can be.  He's liberal but I know it's hard for him because of my strained relationship with my mom.  I liked " Good Times".  Janet Jackson starred in it as a child and coincidentally, she is an ex- JW like me.  She was born and raised into it by her mother who was a convert and Janet's mom is quite the homophobe as is her husband.  I read something in Ebony magazine once that the Jackson's mother said the bible condemns homosexuality and that Michael couldn't have been gay as he was a 'Christian'.  Well, Mrs. Jackson , your bible is wrong for condemning homosexuality and Michael could have been gay even if he was  a Christian.  I don't think Michael was homophobic at all , at least I hope not.  There are no famous African-American LGBT or black atheists at all in the media or LGBT atheists of color for that matter is there? Well there should be.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on August 06, 2013, 06:57:04 PM
I liked " Survivor" back when it first came out.  Survival shows are popular and it reminds me of the film " Cast Away" with Tom Hanks and it also is reminiscent  of the independent horror mockumentary blockbuster film from 1999 entitled " The Blair Witch Project" and it's poorly received but fun to watch sequel released in 2000 entitled " Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2 ".



" I love Lucy", " Leave it to Beaver", " The Andy Griffith Show" and " Roseanne" are some of my personal likes.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on August 07, 2013, 05:36:11 PM
Roseanne will be classic TV one day for sure, it was perfect for it's time.  I still get such a kick out of the reruns!


I use to love JJ Walker, DYNOMITE!!

http://www.dynomitejj.com/front.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on August 07, 2013, 07:27:08 PM
Talk about loving Lucy! Polka dot dress worn by Lucille Ball on Fifties show fetches a whopping $168,000 at auction

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on August 08, 2013, 02:20:53 AM
Roseanne will be classic TV one day for sure, it was perfect for it's time.  I still get such a kick out of the reruns!


I use to love JJ Walker, DYNOMITE!!

http://www.dynomitejj.com/front.html

" Roseanne" is a classic to me.  Sara Gilbert who played Darlene Connor/ Darlene Healy,  she always makes me laugh.  She is a lesbian and is in a relationship with some female singer whom I think she is engaged to and has two children from a previous relationship with another woman. She's of Jewish descent and is the younger sister of Melissa Gilbert who played the role of Laura Elizabeth Ingalls Wilder in the beloved television series " Little House on the Prairie" which is another favorite show of mine.  Does anyone else like LHOTP?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on August 08, 2013, 02:41:16 PM
" The X Files" and " Twin Peaks" were really good. Did anyone else like them?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on August 08, 2013, 03:28:57 PM
" The Sopranos". Now that was a great show.  James Gandolfini recently passed away.  So sad.   :'(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on August 08, 2013, 06:14:19 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/I-Love-Lucy-Posters_zpsac09c98a.jpg)


We have had some discussions in the TV thread about some of the older television shows.  Trying to keep that thread more on the current TV programs, some of us thought it would be a nice idea to start another thread and dedicate to some of the older well loved programs.


There have been some great ones, from the 1950's and 1960's with such classics as I Love Lucy, The Honeymooners, The Dick Van Dyke show and Bewitched.  Leave it to Beaver, My Three Sons, too many to list!

Some of the 60's TV shows carried into the 70's and then the 70's had some ground breaking television...........as they say "and then came Maude"  :D

Mary Tyler Moore continued on with a show of her own, as did Rhoda, and we can't forget Mr. Bunker.



Anyway I thought it may be fun, there are lots of links to old TV programs and I am sure everyone has their fond memories to share.  And let's not forget the cowboys and the westerns.


So I thought just to make this thread a little specific, we could discuss shows from 1950 to late 70's?


And as per the mods lets keep any pics safe for work!   But we do want pics, there are some beautiful ones out there.






I am bumping up the first page, when I said classic, this is what we meant!


But there are a lot of TV shows that are destined to be classics one day and yea Soprano's will be one for sure!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 11, 2013, 06:59:26 PM
I ought to do some research. I've been wondering lately whether My World, And Welcome To It was ever released on any form of video. It had only one season when I was in junior high (but it won an Emmy), it was based on the works of James Thurber, and I absolutely loved it!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 11, 2013, 07:09:18 PM
Jeff, according to TV Obscurities:

My World and Welcome To It was seen on superstation WGN's national feed (but not locally in Chicago, Illinois) in 1990 and perhaps a handful of other local stations over the years but otherwise has never been syndicated. It has never been commercially released on VHS or DVD.


http://www.tvobscurities.com/articles/my_world/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 13, 2013, 11:13:08 AM
I used to watch that show because it was on before Laugh-In.
My memory is that critics appeared to like it.  I, myself, remember
that I didn't care for it.  I don't know what I'd think now if I saw it.

I remember it often had some animated sequences in it.  I, perhaps, didn't
like it because the daughter was played by Lisa Gerritson (sp.?).  She played
Phyllis' daughter on Mary Tyler Moore and for whatever reason I have a complete
aversion to this actress. I was glad she got this role so she'd be off the MTM show!

The only episode I can remember anything about was one where he put out the
American flag at Christmas time and that caused some sort of kerfuffle with the neighbors
or townspeople.  (It may be titled "Rally 'Round the Flag" as I saw that as one of the titles.)

In the 90's I got a Christmas card one year that had a painted city winter/snowy street scene
on it and the American flag was hanging on the buiilding at the center quite prominently and it
instantly reminded me of that episode and I kept that card.

A walk down memory lane for you, Jeff:

(http://ctva.biz/US/Comedy/MyWorld_SheldonLeonard.JPG)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 13, 2013, 11:16:46 AM

(http://www.tvparty.com/bigs10/myworld-04.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 13, 2013, 11:17:33 AM

TV Guide preview page: (If you click on the image you'll get a larger size you can read.)

(http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/1525/007_-_My_World_And_Welcome_To_It.jpg) (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/1525/007_-_My_World_And_Welcome_To_It.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 13, 2013, 11:18:34 AM

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bTNO1T3icqQ/UDDzKj9-cKI/AAAAAAAAstI/PI_2KtkZ-uY/s640/dy2nnb1jsjwdsjwn.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 13, 2013, 11:19:34 AM

TV Guide "Close-Up" spotlighting an episode: (lol, "spot" lighting)

(http://ctva.biz/US/Comedy/MyWorld_Cristabel.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 13, 2013, 11:20:40 AM

(http://myworldandwelcometoit.flyingdreams.org/myworld2.jpg)

If you're interested in some more about it I found this nice website
that has a good overview of the show, it's place on tv, and some
facts, trivia and photos.

http://myworldandwelcometoit.flyingdreams.org/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 13, 2013, 11:21:58 AM

And, buyer beware, there are places online that you can frequently buy things that aren't
available in any other way, that someone has access to somehow,  and they'll sell you copies
of things you might want.  I am not endorsing this (as it's probably illegal under copyright
laws) and it is definitely buyer beware in terns of quality and there are occasions people
just get ripped off, but I stumbled across this site that is offering the entire series or a few
episodes for sale.

http://www.sell.com/22GW9C

(http://i2.sell.com/7/181/507376/60/108/3918948-l.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 13, 2013, 11:29:22 AM

And in related news:

The Secret Life of Walter Mitty is an upcoming comedy-drama adventure film directed by
and starring Ben Stiller. The film will be the second adaptation of James Thurber's 1939 short
story of the same name, following the 1947 film starring Danny Kaye. It is scheduled to be
released in December. Also starring in the new version are Kristen WIig, Sean Penn and Josh
Charles.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 13, 2013, 11:35:31 AM
Thanks, guys.

I'm surprised and sorry you didn't like it, Lyle, though I understand how dislike of an actor can put one off a whole series. (You couldn't pay me to watch How I Met Your Mother because I have such an aversion to Neil Patrick Harris.)

As a kid, I was lucky I didn't piss myself from laughing at the show's dramatization of Thurber's "The Night the Bed Fell."  :D

Those recordings are probably pirated.

When I was in high school, William Windom brought his one-man Thurber show to a local theater. One of my English teachers arranged a field trip for her American Literature class to see the show. It was the semester after I had her class, but she remembered I was a great Thurber fan, and so she arranged for me to go along on the field trip anyway. I have always been grateful to her for that--it's one of my few good memories of high school.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 13, 2013, 11:37:37 AM

Okay, I actually came to this thread to write about something else!

Sunday ME-TV was airing in their Sunday afternoon block the series from
Jan. 1955-1960 called The Millionaire. I remember my mother telling me
about this show once.  It's about a super billionaire who at the beginning
of every episode instructs his valet or whoever he is to give a certified check
tax free of a million dollars to various people. You never see the millionaire, just
his hands or whatever and so each week it's basically a different story to see how
people deal with being given a million dollars.
 
It's a half hour show. I happened by it yesterday and stopped on it because
Dick Sargent was in the one I came upon.  I watched three of them and it
was pretty good.  (Another episdoe had Dick York!) I wish I could have taped
the rest of them to watch.  I thought it might be one of the new shows that
was going to be on in the fall cause they did that with Ironside before it appeared,
but it's not.  If they did about 30 shows a season there'd be over 160 episodes.
Maybe it'll be on eventually.  Apparently they are getting rid of their Sunday afternoon
block of varied programs for a set group. Which is too bad cause I liked the theme idea.
 
The show apparently is also known occasionally when it was syndicated as If I Had a Million.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 13, 2013, 11:58:17 AM
One hundred and sixty episodes? Geez, thats $160 million!  :o  ;D

I just wish those nostalgia channels would show more of the old Westerns at a time I could watch them.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 13, 2013, 12:08:26 PM

True, the westerns all seem to be on in the afternoon.  Most of the shows I find myself
interested in watching on ME-TV all air from 1am - 6am.

Antenna-TV airs Alfred Hitchcock Presents at a reasonable time and I am enjoying catching
episodes of that. One recent one (did I post about it?) had the delicious title of FOG CLOSING IN.

This series was a half-hour format and aired for seven seasons. After that the show, for three seasons,
became an hour and was called The Alfred Hitchcock Hour.  The hour long series is going to begin on
ME-TV this fall.  (I hope not in the middle of the night.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on August 13, 2013, 02:14:52 PM
WOW thanks, I totally remember that show now.   And yes that kid was Phyllis's daughter!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Gerritsen
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 13, 2013, 02:22:28 PM
True, the westerns all seem to be on in the afternoon.

I've been losing a two-hour chunk right in the middle of my Saturdays to The Rebel and Wagon Train. I'm giving thought to buying the first two seasons of Wagon Train on DVD, but they ain't cheap.  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on August 13, 2013, 02:46:25 PM
One hundred and sixty episodes? Geez, thats $160 million!  :o  ;D

I just wish those nostalgia channels would show more of the old Westerns at a time I could watch them.  :(

There were over 200 episodes and the benefactor paid the taxes so it was well over $200 million.  Taxes, many here will be thrilled to know, were up to 90% of income over $300,000 back then. 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on August 13, 2013, 03:42:24 PM
I remember The Millionaire very well. John Beresford Tipton was the philanthropic multi-billionaire. And Marvin Milner (real name, can't think of the role name) was the one who delivered the checks.

I remember asking a civics teacher when the show was popular how much one would actually have to pay to give someone a million dollars at that time, but the teacher was stumped.

There would have been state (Louisiana) and local (New Orleans) taxes too.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on August 13, 2013, 05:16:43 PM
I remember The Millionaire very well. John Beresford Tipton was the philanthropic multi-billionaire. And Marvin Milner (real name, can't think of the role name) was the one who delivered the checks.

I remember asking a civics teacher when the show was popular how much one would actually have to pay to give someone a million dollars at that time, but the teacher was stumped.

There would have been state (Louisiana) and local (New Orleans) taxes too.



And, of course, it would have been subject to gift tax instead of the marginal rate of 90%.  So, in 1957 a gift of $1million would have resulted in a federal gift tax to the donor of $244,275.00.  Perhaps a bit less since there was a $3000.00 exclusion and we also do not know if dear Mr. Tipton was married, and if he was, whether or not the gracious Mrs. Tipton participated in his little game.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 17, 2013, 02:19:44 PM
The principal guest star on today's episode of Wagon Train was Drew Barrymore's father, John Drew Barrymore.

He was actually quite good, for someone who turned out to be such a nut case. I guess it was the Barrymore blood. According to IMDb, the episode was from 1958.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on August 20, 2013, 06:13:48 PM
Anyone fondly remember Grindl"?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 21, 2013, 01:15:02 PM
Wow, Mark, that's a jolt out of the past.  I do remember Grindl, whether fondly or not,
I don't know.

These are a couple things I remember about it.

I remember liking it as a kid and it was probably the first time I knew who Imogene Coca was.
She played a maid that was sent out, I believe, on temporary assignments from an agency. The
one episode I remember greatly disturbed me.  Apparently she's sent out to work for a guy who
raises prize winning Roses and names them after the maids who have worked for him, but Grindl
finds out the maids have all disappeared as the man has used them as fertilizer for the roses, or
something like that. The other thing I remember is that I wanted to watch Grindl the very same
night that The Beatles first appeared on Ed Sullivan and was very angry about my sister getting her
way to see Ed Sullivan.  Heh!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on August 21, 2013, 01:54:46 PM
Yeah! Always liked Imogene Coca a lot, so I was very predisposed to like the show. It didn't disappoint, though I wish it had lasted longer.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 21, 2013, 02:33:29 PM
Anyone fondly remember Grindl"?

Only vaguely.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on August 21, 2013, 03:28:15 PM
I remember one episode, her then boss constantly called her Gertl/girdle and she had to correct him frequently.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on August 22, 2013, 06:12:12 PM



Grindl is an American situation comedy that began in the fall of 1963 on NBC, originally sponsored by Procter & Gamble. The show, starring Imogene Coca in the title role, lasted for one season.


Synopsis

Grindl (Coca) worked for Foster's Temporary Employment service and was employed doing domestic work. The show revolved around the different humorous situations she would get into with each new job she was assigned to each week.


The first show featured guest star Telly Savalas, who would later star as Kojak. Other guest stars included George Kennedy, Paul Lynde, Robert Q. Lewis, Jack Albertson, Robert Karnes, Darryl Richard, and Leif Erickson.

In the 1954-1955 television season, Coca had starred in The Imogene Coca Show, a comedy and variety show, also aired on NBC.

Grindl was scheduled on Sunday nights at 8:30 P.M. in September 1963, sandwiched between Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color and Bonanza, both major hits. The series was pitted against the second half of The Ed Sullivan Show on CBS which greatly contributed to its low ratings. It was canceled in the spring of 1964, after completing a full season of 32 episodes.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grindl


Never heard of it until just now.   But as for Imogene (and how great is that name?  :D):


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imogene_Coca


WOW that's a lot of classic TV!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on August 23, 2013, 12:49:39 PM
She was fantastic! Deadpan humor, a worthy rival to Buster Keaton.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on August 25, 2013, 05:21:00 AM
i remember her as half a comedy duo, sid caesar and imogene coca, and might well have liked her better singly, but i think i took a pass on the maid sitcom, and i never missed ed sullivan.

how come we have never mentioned "Your Show of Shows"?  it featured    Sid Caesar, Imogene Coca, Howard Morris. and Carl Reiner.  although it is credited for inspiring a bunch of other shows, i think most of us would see the carol burnett show to be its most direct comparison.

for that matter, how about the Ed Sullivan show?  or toast of the town as it was originally called, i think from a newspaper column sullivan wrote.  virtually everybody appeared on that show, and like johnny carson, a favorable nod from stoneface sullivan could launch a career.  and then there was topo gigio, or thee still amazing seńor wences....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJiYZ6QIAtY
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on August 25, 2013, 05:58:21 AM
All very good shows indeed. And don't forget Garry Moore, whose variety show launched Carol Burnett.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 25, 2013, 07:21:24 AM
Loved Carol Burnett!

Hi Paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatsy!  Hi Paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatsy!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpNF-3CBRFk
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on August 25, 2013, 07:46:02 AM
LMAO, Chuck!

I didn't even have to click on the link to know what you were referring to.

A SWIPED LIFE!  One of my favorite of her movie parodies!!

Ohmigod, over the years since I saw it I would go "PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATSY!" and until now I thought I was the only person in the world who GOT it!

Will you marry me, Chuck?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 25, 2013, 11:44:59 AM

Over the years I've seen some video collections of Your Show of Shows sketches,
and while some were amusing I never found it that good, as people seem to remember
it.

One reason is that Sid Caesar is one of those comedians who did what is referred to as
ethnic type humor--doing jibberish accents and/or voices as the source of character humor
and that never really appealed to me.  I don't find it funny. Arte Johnson did that type of
thing on Laugh-In often and I wasn't fond of most of those type of things he did, either.

As for Ed Sullivan, my parents didn't like him or enjoy him so we never watched his program.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on August 25, 2013, 11:55:03 AM
Over the years I've seen some video collections of Your Show of Shows sketches,
and while some were amusing I never found it that good, as people seem to remember
it.

One reason is that Sid Caesar is one of those comedians who did what is referred to as
ethnic type humor--doing jibberish accents and/or voices as the source of character humor
and that never really appealed to me.  I don't find it funny. Arte Johnson did that type of
thing on Laugh-In often and I wasn't fond of most of those type of things he did, either.

As for Ed Sullivan, my parents didn't like him or enjoy him so we never watched his program.



Gee Lyle, once again we agree.  (If I didn't know better I'd swear you were an Aquarius.)

I too can appreciate the genius of Sid Caesar and YOUR SHOW OF SHOWS (and I certainly don't dislike either man or show) without really being huge fans of both.  I think you nailed it:  it's the preponderance (notice how closely--and appropriately--that word sounds like "ponderous" and "preposterous") of Caesar's doing ethnic humor, which I have rarely found funny.  I felt the same way about Arte Johnson.  I hated his "Rozmenko" character on LAUGH-IN.

I always thought Imogene Coca was much funnier than Caesar.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 25, 2013, 11:58:48 AM

Gee Lyle, once again we agree.  (If I didn't know better I'd swear you were an Aquarius.)

Are you?

I'm a Librarian.  Lol!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 25, 2013, 12:01:26 PM


I liked her, too, but she was in some dubious things, like It's About Time.

And although I love Bewitched, I wasn't fond of the two-parter she did
playing Mary the Good Fairy.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on August 25, 2013, 12:01:49 PM
No, I am a Gemini, but Aquarius is supposed to be Gemini's soulmate.  So to a degree is Libra (all three are air signs).  And Leo is actually very compatible with Gemini, too.  Just coincidentally my male best friend is a Leo and my best female friend is an Aquarius.  I have been besties with both for 35 years.


P.S.

You ARE five years older than me so maybe in 1966 your 12-year-old self was already too jaded for the low humor of IT'S ABOUT TIME.  This 7-year-old loved it.

Imogene Coca and Joe E. Ross?  C'mon!

OOO!  OOO!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on August 29, 2013, 07:37:59 AM
if one were to look at a list of guest that were on sullivan, it would include virtually every flash in the pan and perennial favorite, unless they pissed off ed, in which case they were one and done.  everyone that was any kind of a talent turned up, and a number of acts that flourished there that found no other home in the entertainment industry.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on August 29, 2013, 07:42:01 AM
and now a question for lyle or anyone that cares to take a shot at it.

would someone explain to me the difference in feeling between a single camera series and a multicamera, besides the obvious?

illustrating the difference with a list of well known examples of each would be of some help i think in getting the idea of what the audience gets out of each.

thanks.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 29, 2013, 09:39:19 AM
You ARE five years older than me so maybe in 1966 your 12-year-old self was already too jaded for the low humor of IT'S ABOUT TIME.  This 7-year-old loved it.

Imogene Coca and Joe E. Ross?  C'mon!

OOO!  OOO!

A big thing I remember of It's About Time are bits and pieces of the lyrics of its theme song. That was back in the day when a show's theme could set up its premise (think, esp., The Beverly Hillbillies, Petticoat Junction, and Green Acres).

Ooo! Ooo! And now that you bring up Joe E. Ross, we're back to Car 54, Where Are You?  :D

(Oh, yeah, I turned 8 in May of 1966.)

Anybody wanna take a stab at how the humor Sid Caesar did on Your Show of Shows--which was way before my time--compared to the type of humor that was done in Vaudeville?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on August 29, 2013, 11:05:16 AM
and now a question for lyle or anyone that cares to take a shot at it.

would someone explain to me the difference in feeling between a single camera series and a multicamera, besides the obvious?

illustrating the difference with a list of well known examples of each would be of some help i think in getting the idea of what the audience gets out of each.

thanks.

Jack:
I have some knowledge of the subject however I find that the wiki article at the below link is pretty decent and may answer most of your questions.  Take a look.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-camera_setup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-camera_setup)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 30, 2013, 07:16:08 AM
I watched three hours of Magnum, P.I. last night,  ::)

Ordinarily I've just been watching two hours, 8-10 p.m., but for some reason last night I left it on for the third episode, 10-11 p.m. I'm rather glad I did because it was an episode where Angela Lansbury showed up as a guest star as Jessica Fletcher!  :D

The episode had another old Broadway veteran, too, Dorothy Loudon.

Meanwhile, this morning, this old jingle popped into my head. Anyone else remember:

See the U.S.A.
In your Chevrolet!
America is asking you to call!


 :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 30, 2013, 09:47:15 AM

Mmmwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 30, 2013, 09:48:58 AM
if one were to look at a list of guest that were on sullivan, it would include virtually every flash in the pan and perennial favorite, unless they pissed off ed, in which case they were one and done.  everyone that was any kind of a talent turned up, and a number of acts that flourished there that found no other home in the entertainment industry.

I'd also say the same thing about The Hollywood Palace, wihch often included sports figures,which I don't recall
Sullivan doing, but I could be mistaken.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 30, 2013, 10:29:57 AM
P.S.

You ARE five years older than me

But who's keeping track!?

so maybe in 1966 your 12-year-old self was already too jaded for the low humor of IT'S ABOUT TIME.  This 7-year-old loved it. Imogene Coca and Joe E. Ross?  C'mon!

OOO!  OOO!

I said it was "dubious," which doesn't necessarily equate to saying I didn't watch it or like it, I did!

Thought it was quite a good idea at the time, but what I'd think of it now I have no idea!  I also liked
that when they saw the ratings weren't going to be good enough for a second season, that after
18 episodes they reversed the entire premise and brought all the stone age people back to the present!

There was some talk on a video site at one time about the series being on dvd (or going to be) in
Europe.  Don't know, but I'd take a gander at it again, wouldn't you?

By the way, it was a Sherwood Schwartz show and on the same year as Gilligan's Island's last season.
Alot of the jungle type sets from Gilligan were used in It's About Time.

I always thought that some one season shows should be shown on the retro channels on the weekend.
They could get thirty weeks out of it!  Although not all shows left in the warehouse are up to broadcasting
quality and money would need to be invested in restoring them.

The show that Julie Newmar was in, MY LIVING DOLL, was recently tried to be released.  They had a really hard
time even finding existing copies of all the episdoes intact.  They did release a dvd with about 14 of the episodes
and said they are working on doing the rest of them.  I'd see that, too!  Love Julie Newmar.  Although I don't know
for a fact, it's my opinion from what I've gleaned over the years that Julie was not more popular than she was because
she was hard to work with.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 30, 2013, 10:33:48 AM
A big thing I remember of It's About Time are bits and pieces of the lyrics of its theme song. That was back in the day when a show's theme could set up its premise (think, esp., The Beverly Hillbillies, Petticoat Junction, and Green Acres).

Yes, I too still remember that theme song and last year sometime saw it on youtube.

Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1G-TsdNWGg

When they changed the premise and brought back the people to the present, they also changed the
theme song lyrics.  Here's the lyrics, opening and closing, to the first premise:

--Opening Theme Version One

It's about time, it's about space,
About two men in the strangest place.
It's about time, it's about flight.
Traveling faster than the speed of light.
Here is their tale, of the brave crew.
As through the barrier of time they flew.
Past the fighting Minute Men.
Past an armored knight.
Past a Roman warrior.
To this ancient site.

It's about caves, cavemen too.
About a time when the Earth was new.
Wait'll they see what is in sight.
Is it good luck or is it good night?
It's about two astronauts.
It's about their fate.
It's about a woman,
And her prehistoric mate.
And now, It's About Time!

--Closing Theme Version One

It's about time, it's about space,
About two men in the strangest place.
They will be here right on this spot,
No matter if they like it or not.
How will they live in this primitive state?
Will help ever come before it is too late?

Will they ever get away?
Watch each week and see.
Will they be returning to,
The 20th century?
It's about time for our goodbyes,
To all these prehistoric gals and guys.
It's About Time!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 30, 2013, 10:34:30 AM

Opening Theme Version Two

It's about time, it's about space.
About cave people in the strangest place.
It's about time, it's about flight.
Traveling faster than the speed of light.
About cave people and the brave crew,
As through the barrier of time they flew.
Past the Roman Senator.
Past an armored knight.
Past the fighting Minute Man.
To this modern site.

It's about time for you and me
To meet these people from a million B.C.
It's about two astronauts
And how they educate.
A prehistoric woman,
And her prehistoric mate.
And now, It's About Time!

Closing Theme Version Two

It's about time, it's about space.
About cave people in the strangest place.
They will be here with all of us.
Dodging a taxi, a car, a bus.
Where will they go, what will they do?
In this strange place where everything is new.

Will they manage to survive?
Watch each week and see.
Will they get accustomed,
To the 20th Century?
It's about time for our goodbyes,
To all our prehistoric gals and guys.
It's About Time!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 30, 2013, 10:43:35 AM
Jack:
I have some knowledge of the subject however I find that the wiki article at the below link is pretty decent and may answer most of your questions.  Take a look.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-camera_setup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-camera_setup)

I was going to take a stab at the answer, but this article provides most of what I would say.
Jack's question about what an audience would get out of each format, though, is what it doesn't answer.
I don't think that either format is used for what an audience gets out of it.  Basically a three camera format
is used when there's a studio audience. It's so that whatever is being filmed or taped can proceed more like
a play and avoid retakes, interruptions or the like, so in that sense it's for the live audience's benefit. One
cameras can take more time, do individual shots, hence you don't need three cameras.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on August 30, 2013, 11:42:21 AM

I don't think that either format is used for what an audience gets out of it. 

Yeah, I agree.  To be honest, I really don't think the average viewer can/does notice any real difference though I know there are, at least, subtle differences in the quality of lighting.
Most directors, especially formally trained film directors, seem to prefer single camera simply because it is the way they were taught" it should be done". 
My son, the film freak, always notices and uses "The Big Bang Theory" (multi-camera") and "Modern Family" (single camera) as examples of the deficiencies of multi camera versus single.
Personally, I don't really see it but...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on August 30, 2013, 01:24:43 PM
Mmmwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!


Yeah!

I remember one time our old 21" TV had to be taken into the shop (they did that back then), and left the outer casing with the glass in front. I remember singing the jingle and doing the kiss while inside the TV casing. Imitating Dinah Shore, I should have known I was gay back then, but didn't realize it for many more years.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 31, 2013, 10:26:26 AM

LOL, Fritz!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on August 31, 2013, 10:51:11 AM
Are you guys going to eat on the boat?

No, we're going to DINAH SHORE!

Mwah!!!

I love Dinah!

Yes, Fritz, me too...


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on August 31, 2013, 10:52:33 AM
Yeah, I agree.  To be honest, I really don't think the average viewer can/does notice any real difference though I know there are, at least, subtle differences in the quality of lighting.
Most directors, especially formally trained film directors, seem to prefer single camera simply because it is the way they were taught" it should be done". 
My son, the film freak, always notices and uses "The Big Bang Theory" (multi-camera") and "Modern Family" (single camera) as examples of the deficiencies of multi camera versus single.
Personally, I don't really see it but...

Jeff, tell that little hotshot that multi-camera series can be just as great as single-camera ones! 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 31, 2013, 10:58:20 AM
My son, the film freak, always notices and uses "The Big Bang Theory" (multi-camera") and "Modern Family" (single camera) as examples of the deficiencies of multi camera versus single. Personally, I don't really see it but...

Well, it's only a deficiency really if one wants more movement in outside areas, I guess.  The three camera technique
doesn't allow for more outside filming.  If you think of Modern Family they travel all over the city to film and most of
BB Theory takes place in interiors like their apartments or work environments.  Frasier occasionally did outside street
scenes on the Paramount lot and when there were audience tapings they'd just show those to the studio audience
in sequence when they were filming the rest.

One thing not mentioned in the article you linked, and probably because they don't use film anymore do they?, was
how a show like All in the Family was shot and how one like Mary Tyler Moore was.  The people who did the shows
like MTM, Bob Newhart, Rhoda and the like used the three camera technique, but they used film in the cameras.
Norman Lear used videotape.  So the Lear shows were shot twice.  Once at around 5:30 and the second one at 8:30.
The 8:30 one was usually the one they'd use for airing, but they'd use bits of the 5:30 taping if they wanted to tweak
it or if something happened they needed to change.  Or sometimes if a line got a l augh that didn't at 8:30.

And one of those tapings would usually be 60 minutes to an hour for the audience.

If you went to a taping of a show like MTM that was filmed, the audience would be there for three hours or so,
because film was more expensive and they'd do it all at the same time.  There was one filming essentially and they'd
go back and do a scene again if they felt they needed to.  Sometimes they'd do insert shots right then, or sometimes
they'd do it after the studio audience left, but they didn't do two complete shows like they did with videotaping.

Of course, there's also exceptions to anything I wrote above!  For example, I attended three or so tapings of Three's
Company and they'd whiz through those in 35-40 minutes.  No fooling around there.  I know a couple people who
attended tapings of Friends and they would fool around so much while taping it that it took 6-7-8 hours to do it.
They even sent out for pizzas for the studio audience.

With the new cameras and high quality digital video I don't know exactly what they do nowadays.  I haven't been
to a taping in many years.  (I believe the last taping I attended was for the four season comedy STILL STANDING
with Jami Gertz (who's on the unexpectedly renewed NEIGHBORS now, and Mark Addy (one of the leads in the FULL
MONTY film).  Recurring characters were played by Sally Struthers and Joel Murray (who had a role in the Best Film
Wimmer The Artist).

I liked that series a lot, but it never got it's due, except that it was on for a few years.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on August 31, 2013, 11:01:37 AM
Exactly, Lyle.

Some shows should be multi-camera and some should be single camera.  You gave good examples.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 31, 2013, 11:06:36 AM

I can think of one series that started as a single camera series and then
changed to a three camera series.  Any ideas? I have one in mind, at least.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on August 31, 2013, 11:20:41 AM
HAPPY DAYS, unfortunately.  The shrieks and whoops from the idiot audience every time Henry Winkler entered made me quit watching the show pretty damned fast.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on August 31, 2013, 11:46:29 AM
Jeff, tell that little hotshot that multi-camera series can be just as great as single-camera ones! 

I guess you meant me.  He is not so little anymore and his aversion to "Big Bang..." apparently goes well beyond the shooting technique.
Anyway, he suggests the following which is pretty interesting, I think.
http://www.cybercollege.com/filmtap.htm (http://www.cybercollege.com/filmtap.htm)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 31, 2013, 12:01:15 PM
The shrieks and whoops from the idiot audience every time Henry Winkler entered made me quit watching the show pretty damned fast.

That pales in comparison to the ultimate "shrieks and whoops from the idiot audience" that Married with Children became.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 31, 2013, 12:56:20 PM
Anyway, he suggests the following which is pretty interesting, I think.
http://www.cybercollege.com/filmtap.htm (http://www.cybercollege.com/filmtap.htm)

It is interesting, but the only difference really noted about using one camera and three cameras, regardless if they're
film or videotape cameras, is that lighting varies because one set-up is lit for one camera and the three camera technique
necessitates lighting for multiple sets/set-ups which, the article says, creates more of a flat look.

I'd argue that with computers, nowadays, changes can be made on the scenes in the three-camera technique without
much of a problem.

AMPAS had an event about shooting movies in the digital age recently.  An event under the "Sciences" part of
the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts & SCIENCES.

From that article:
Quote
As they strive for perfection in today's high-budget feature film productions, some directors re-shoot scenes many times before they are satisfied.  (Possibly the record is held by one well-known film director who reportedly shot the same scene 87 times.)

I wonder why they wouldn't just say who that "well-known film director" is?  Even though I'm 99% per-cent sure I know
who they're referring to.

For all the people who were decrying the film colorization process 25 years ago because "that's not the way they were
meant to be seen" I have to ask why they aren't decrying digital video because they weren't meant to be seen that way,
either.  And The Wizard of Oz wasn't meant to be seen in IMAX and 3-D, but here it comes soon. And, to be really
anal, the opening and closing of The Wizard of Oz wasn't meant to be seen in black & white as it was for decades, besides,
it was supposed to be seen in a sepia tone as it was filmed.

I wonder if those people who hand-colored some early silent films, like A Trip to the Moon, were set-upon by those decriers?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 31, 2013, 01:09:50 PM
Also from that article:

Quote
Digital Update
05/05/2013
According the National Assn. of Theatre Owners' trade group by 2012 more than 85% of the U.S.' 4,044 theaters, representing 34,161 screens, had gone digital.

Those that haven't will have to either spend $60,000 or more for digital equipment or be forced to close, because soon movies will all be distributed on computer disks rather than film. 

Theaters that can't afford the move to digital are planning to close -- some after decades of serving small towns around the country.

Not only do digital "films" represent a major cost savings in duplication and distribution, but the technical quality (sharpness and clarity) of the image can be superior to film.

Many film buffs, including many film and TV directors, still strongly argue this point, of course. However, when "Hollywood" is 100% digital, this issue may only be a matter of historic interest.

Some comments.  Some of the recent AMPAS screenings have touted that the screenings might be the last time you'd get to see some films projected from actual film.

One local theatre has been asking patrons to donate and/or pay what they're calling a "digital fee" to help them pay for the conversion equipement needed to stay in business.

The line above talking about the distribution of films to theatres will be on "computer disks" might be a cost savings, but last year I attended a 40th anniversary screening of The Poseidon Adventure and later on learned that the picture we saw was projected from the blu-ray digital disk version of it.  Now while it looked fine, it felt like somehow I wasn't getting my money's worth because something you could do yourself at home (put a disk into a machine) was done at the theatre. It somehow seemed like something should be happening there that I couldn't do myself at home, audience and large screen notwithstanding.

As far as what the movies and tv shows look like nowadays, I've been watching a lot of tv series on the retro channels and, possibly because color televisions were new they purposely filmed their programs to emphasize the color more back then, but those shows, the sci-fi's and westerns and comedies and variety shows, all define what "color" means. If you watch tv shows now they all seem to look the same shades of blue and gray and rarely are you just wowed by how anything really looks. Concerning that and films (like the recent James Bond which was all gray and dark) I like to say I prefer when they used to film things in color.

I mean, I know they can do it--Mad Men looks like it came from that period when the TV shows looked the same way that Mad Men does now.  I just wonder why they choose not to.  For a starker example, look at the new and original versions of Hawaii Five-O.  Not only does it look more muted and bleaker in the new version, you hardly ever even see a colorful Hawaiian shirt, or aloha shirt  to be more kama'aina.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on August 31, 2013, 02:11:48 PM
"Mad Men" is an interesting example.  The first four seasons were in 35mm and the 5th season went to digital. It is still single camera.  The colors still seem quite saturated to me.
Here is another interesting piece on single camera vs. multi using Mad Men as an example.
http://www.criticalcommons.org/Members/jbutler/clips/mad-men-scene-analysis (http://www.criticalcommons.org/Members/jbutler/clips/mad-men-scene-analysis)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on September 01, 2013, 08:33:20 AM
Jack:
I have some knowledge of the subject however I find that the wiki article at the below link is pretty decent and may answer most of your questions.  Take a look.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-camera_setup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-camera_setup)
thanks, will do.  i hear it talked about, even discussed, but anything i have heard so far has slid out as fast as it slid in.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on September 01, 2013, 08:47:53 AM

Anybody wanna take a stab at how the humor Sid Caesar did on Your Show of Shows--which was way before my time--compared to the type of humor that was done in Vaudeville?
even though vaudeville was before my time by maybe a decade or two, i had family members who remembered it, or lived where it was slow to die.  there were several stage equipped theaters in the albany, troy, schenectady area where i largely grew up, and on occasion there would be a half time show at intermission that at least used the capability.  a couple had the theatre organs that might entertain or accompany silent films.

from what i would hear from adults at the time, sid caesar was pretty much the transitional entertainment, vaudeville sketches cleaned up for tv, funny flowerpot hat clowns and all.  george burns and gracie allen took their act from the vaudeville stage directly to tv, and it is a tribute to their unerring timing that very little needed to be done for the transition.  somewhere along the line, not sure whether from get go or shortly after, a very thin sitcom structure was dropped over the act, but their little epilogues at the end of the show WAS their vaudeville shtick.  remember too that at that time i lived due north of the catskills, the favorite summer getaway of all the jews in NYC who could afford to take a cabin, even if dad had to commute all summer.  vaudeville acts were able to extend their viability by 20 years plus or minus, depending on whether they could hook the next generation.  think dirty dancing...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 01, 2013, 09:06:57 PM
Thanks, Jack.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 05, 2013, 09:51:18 AM

Because there's been very little new programs on TV lately, I've been watching quite a few
Alfred Hitchcock Presents episodes on Antenna-TV the past two weeks.  There's been some
really interesting ones and you never know what actor might pop up here and there.  There
was one with Jo Van Fleet who had recently won her oscar for East of Eden when she did
the episode.  Another had Carl Betz from the Donna Reed Show. William Redfield starred in
a tale with a surprise ending-I recognized that he was from One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest.
Another had Jean Hagen in a role so unlike what we all tend to think of her as, the clueless
blonde in Singin in the Rain! There was even a Christmas episode (!) which I liked a lot, I think
because it reminded me that this heat will go away eventually! That one starred Joseph Cotten
in a nasty little decidedly un-holiday spirited tale.

Having watched many of this series episodes the past year, I noticed a lot of them deal with
men cheating on their wives and the women they cheat with are invaritably irritated that
they won't marry them. One or the other seems to always feel disposing of them is a good
answer. The other night one of these involved a babysitter and the child was a witness!
I've never come across an episode where the woman is cheating on her husband, but I recall
one where the husband suspected his wife was cheating. I've also noticed that an actor named
Skip Homeier (sp.?) is often in episodes.  Not that I know who that is, but then you wonder--who
is that?

Retro channels can save a dull hot evening!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 06, 2013, 11:42:44 AM
Another had Carl Betz from the Donna Reed Show.

Now, there's a name I haven't heard in a very long time!

Quote
Retro channels can save a dull hot evening!

You can say that twice and mean it!

On one of last night's episodes of Magnum, P.I., the guest star was none other than Ol' Blue Eyes himself--Frank Sinatra!  :o
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 07, 2013, 12:22:14 PM

I also remember that Carl Betz was on a very well received drama series
from the 1960's called JUDD FOR THE DEFENSE, although it hasn't lingered
in the pulic consciousness since.  Do you remember that one, Jeff?

I keep forgetting that Frank Sinatra appeared on several 1980's series episodes!
I believe Tony Danza got him to make an appearance on Who's the Boss, as well!

I've always viewed Sinatra as kind of a Jekyll & Hyde personality.  He could be very
nice and very much the opposite as well! His daughter Tina is a chip off the old block!

I kinda regret that I didn't try harder to see the concert he did: Frank, Liza and Sammy!
It was supposed to be Dean Martin instead of Liza, but he couldn't do it and I lost some
interest and didn't pursue it. So I never got to see any of those people in person! (Except
Liza, whom I've seen many times--two concerts, Hollywood Bowl, an appearance at a screening
of the restored Meet Me in St. Louis and outside the Vanity Fair Oscar party in the 90's.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on September 07, 2013, 03:09:55 PM
I remember JUDD, FOR THE DEFENSE!

Only ran two seasons, but it was a damned good show.  Carl Betz won an Emmy and a Golden Globe for it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 08, 2013, 01:49:13 PM
I also remember that Carl Betz was on a very well received drama series
from the 1960's called JUDD FOR THE DEFENSE, although it hasn't lingered
in the pulic consciousness since.  Do you remember that one, Jeff?

Yes. It only lasted a couple of seasons.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 11, 2013, 11:59:42 AM
Apparently no more Bewitched! at 8.p. Eastern Time weeknights on ME-TV. Last night I tuned in for Bewitched! and instead found Gilligan's Island--probably a first season episode, too, as it was in glorious black and white.

I didn't stick around to watch. It seems Gilligan's Island is one of those shows I like to remember but don't necessarily care to see again.

I don't know what they were showing at 8:30 instead of I Dream of Jeannie. I didn't check back to see.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 12, 2013, 10:31:55 AM

Mon. - Thurs. is  GILLIGAN'S ISLAND from 8-9pm.

HOGAN'S HEROES 9-9:30.
F TROOP  9:30-10:00.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: morrobay on September 12, 2013, 11:02:18 AM
Anyone remember Adventures In Paradise, with Gardner McKay?  I don't remember it being on at night, I used to watch it after school.


(http://capitainetroy.free.fr/images/mckay113.JPG)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 12, 2013, 02:28:40 PM
No, but he's cute!  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 12, 2013, 02:30:52 PM
Adventures in Paradise is an American television series created by James Michener which ran on ABC from 1959 until 1962, starring Gardner McKay as Adam Troy, the captain of the schooner Tiki III, which sailed the South Pacific looking for passengers and adventure. USA Network aired reruns of this series between 1984 and 1988. The plots deal with the romantic and detective stories of Korean War veteran Troy. The supporting cast, varying from season to season, features George Tobias, Guy Stockwell, and Linda Lawson.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Gardner_McKay_Susan_Oliver_Guy_Stockwell_Adventures_in_Paradise_1961.JPG/628px-Gardner_McKay_Susan_Oliver_Guy_Stockwell_Adventures_in_Paradise_1961.JPG)

Gardner McKay, guest star Susan Oliver, and Guy Stockwell (1961)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on September 12, 2013, 02:55:06 PM
I remember knowing about the series, but I'm not sure if we ever watched it. Maybe there was something else on at the time.

No time-shifting back then!  :D



Ah, 1959, so the 50 star flag was correct even at the beginning of the series.

At 53 years, it's the longest time we've had a flag without design change in number of stars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on September 12, 2013, 06:18:33 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Oliver


I thought Susan looked familiar!  Interesting bio......and kind of sad!  :'(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 13, 2013, 10:27:01 AM
Anyone remember Adventures In Paradise, with Gardner McKay?  I don't remember it being on at night, I used to watch it after school.


(http://capitainetroy.free.fr/images/mckay113.JPG)

I have vague memories of it being on in the early evening. Maybe it was already in syndicated reruns then. The years 1959-1962 make it a little too early for me to have memories of it.

And what was Abner Kravitz (George Tobias) doing in it?  :D

McKay was an interesting character in his own right, aside from being a real hunk. Apparently he came by his interest in sailing naturally, even genetically.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardner_McKay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardner_McKay)

I thought I remembered once reading of a connection to the John McKay who made a forture in Virginia City, Nevada, silver mining, but apparently my memory is playing me tricks (happens a lot these days), and I'm mistaken about that.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 13, 2013, 10:33:29 AM
What the heck is up with some of these stations showing classic shows?  >:(

Last night I was having my usual all-Magnum, P.I. Thursday evening.  :D Cozi-TV ran an episode where Dana Delaney was the guest star, playiing a love interest for Magnum, an L.A. lawyer who comes for a visit. Later in the evening, Cozi ran the episode where Magnum was in L.A. and met Delaney's character.

Why can't they run the episodes in original broadcast order, for cryin' out loud?  >:(

Spoiler Question:

Any other Magnum fans remember whether it was ever revealed whether or not Higgins was actually "Robin Masters"?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 13, 2013, 10:41:01 AM
Ah, 1959, so the 50 star flag was correct even at the beginning of the series.

I don't know  if people could get the 50 Star flag before the official flying of it, but the
official presentation of the 49 star flag was July 4, 1959 over Fort McHenry, presided over
by Pres. Eisenhower and the 50 star flag was official the following year on July 4, 1960.
Hawaii was admitted to the union on August 21, 1959.

I always though that if I were doing a movie set in the future, I'd have a U.S. flag with
several more stars (or several less!) as one thing to convey something different!

Or perhaps, if you read todays News & Current Events thread, speaking Chinese!



Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 13, 2013, 10:43:17 AM
Why can't they run the episodes in original broadcast order, for cryin' out loud?  >:(00

I do not know COZI's schedule, but I've noticed that M. P.I. usually airs two episodes back to back in
the evening.  Perhspas, later at night they show the same two episodes and you just happened
to watch them out of order.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 13, 2013, 11:00:31 AM
I do not know COZI's schedule, but I've noticed that M. P.I. usually airs two episodes back to back in
the evening.  Perhspas, later at night they show the same two episodes and you just happened
to watch them out of order.  Just a thought.

Dunno.

Last night I watched three episodes, 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. EDT. The Delaney visit episode was the 8 p.m. episode, the meeting episode was the 10 p.m. episode (it was actually the first part of a two-parter). I don't know what they show here at 7 p.m. In that hour I'm watching Jeopardy! first and then the B.B.C. America news broadcast.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on September 14, 2013, 08:08:31 AM
oh lord, i swooned over gardner mckay.  might even have gotten a bit of my love of the tropics from watching the show.  i know i did from reading michener's tales of the south pacific books.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 14, 2013, 12:36:09 PM
They've gotten up to the ninety-minute color episodes of Wagon Train, with John McIntire as wagonmaster Chris Hale and Robert Fuller as scout Cooper Smith. Today's principal guest stars were Ronald Reagan and Ann Blyth.

Also appearing was one of those reliable yeoman actors that I don't think they make anymore, Ron Hayes. I always enjoyed seeing him when I was a kid (manly fellow, masculine jaw, great smile). According to IMDb he passed away at age 75 in '04.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 14, 2013, 12:48:11 PM

Vin Scully was announced as the Grand Marshall of the next Rose Parade.
Someone found this site with a clip of him and Elizabeth Montgomery promoting
the Rose Parade for 1966.  Apparently they hosted it for ABC that year.  She was
a huge baseball fan, so she must've enjoyed this.

http://www.laobserved.com/archive/2013/09/vin_scully_and_elizabeth.php

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on September 27, 2013, 08:00:51 PM
I don't know if it is classic TV, but I have a client that I see once a week and every time I am there (same time each week) she is watching In the Heat of the Night.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_the_Heat_of_the_Night_%28TV_series%29


Every episode I have watched so far has been really good.  I don't know why we never watched that show when it aired (I am certainly a fan of Carroll O'Connor).


I also didn't realize there were so many seasons!   Next time I see her, I must check the channel, see if I get it!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on September 30, 2013, 12:14:39 PM
I do not know COZI's schedule, but I've noticed that M. P.I. usually airs two episodes back to back in
the evening.  Perhspas, later at night they show the same two episodes and you just happened
to watch them out of order.  Just a thought.




Sometimes if they run two episodes and the series has many episodes the station will run one from the early years and one from the later years, for variety.  I don't like that, though.  I like them in order.  
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on September 30, 2013, 12:18:13 PM
Let's get this thread going again!

Any thoughts on THE BOB CUMMINGS SHOW, a/k/a LOVE THAT BOB?

It has a great supporting cast:  Rosemary DeCamp, Dwayne Hickman, Nancy Kulp, and especially Ann B. Davis, who won two Emmy awards for playing a lovelorn Girl Friday.

But Cummings is just grisly.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on September 30, 2013, 12:25:39 PM
Great news for lovers of ALFRED HITCHCOCK PRESENTS!

Season 6 is FINALLY coming out on DVD!  No date yet, but the announcement HAS been made!

This season has many terrific episodes, including "Incident in a Small Jail" (mousy John Fiedler is thrown in jail along with a suspected strangler), "Mrs. Bixby and the Colonel's Coat" (adulterous Audrey Meadows is given a mink by her lover and has to figure out how to hide it from her husband), and one of my favorites, "Coming, Mama" (Eileen Heckart is caught between her domineering mother and her boyfriend).

Looking forward to this box set!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on September 30, 2013, 03:26:46 PM
I remember Ann B. Davis much more from Bob Cummings than from her later shows.

One time on a quiz program she was performing stunts on roller skates, and it wasn't widely known that she had a twin sister, so the sister performed along with her, making it seem like she was zooming behind the curtains much faster than possible, which had the quiz panelists quite bewildered. I forget which quiz show it was.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on September 30, 2013, 04:28:47 PM
I forgot that Ann B. was a twin!  (Was her sister Ann A.?)

This would be fun to see!  I'll check YouTube.

I love Ann B. She deserved two Emmys for making us believe she could be in love with Bob Cummings!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: garyd on September 30, 2013, 04:57:37 PM
I forgot that Ann B. was a twin!  (Was her sister Ann A.?)

This would be fun to see!  I'll check YouTube.

I love Ann B. She deserved two Emmys for making us believe she could be in love with Bob Cummings!

LOL.
Her name is Harriet.  She appeared with Ann on roller skates on "I've Got A Secret" in the Spring of 1958.  Don't know the actual episode number.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on September 30, 2013, 06:44:24 PM
LOL.
Her name is Harriet.  She appeared with Ann on roller skates on "I've Got A Secret" in the Spring of 1958.  Don't know the actual episode number.

Oh yeah, that's the show! They were great on it!

Thanks, Gary!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on October 09, 2013, 05:32:41 PM
I told a client of mine the other day about the game show network that shows all the old classic games shows......she ordered it, so I am doing my bit!  :D


Thanks for keeping this thread moving guys!


I really do love old TV and with what's on these days, more and more I think that is what I should be sticking with, the old stuff!



http://classic-tv.com/



Problem with me is I am not seeing old TV or new TV these days!   But I can still go down memory lane....
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on October 09, 2013, 05:34:31 PM
OH, Match Game!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on October 09, 2013, 05:35:58 PM
Match Game is the best one!!   That is what she is loving right now!



Hey is Anne B Davis gay??


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_B._Davis


Lyle??   :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on October 09, 2013, 05:41:37 PM
Yeah, I believe she is.


I love the spoof on Match Game on RuPaul's Drag Race........"Snatch Game"
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on October 11, 2013, 03:49:16 AM
if we are going to mention favorite game shows over the years,  password tops my list.  it was the jeopardy of its day.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on October 11, 2013, 04:02:48 AM
Why would Lyle know about Ann B. Davis?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on October 11, 2013, 04:05:53 AM
PASSWORD was excellent.  A fun and intelligent game.  Allen Ludden was a great host.

Lord, I remember Art Fleming on JEOPARDY!

I like shows like those two, where brainpower is involved.  Also THE [insert s dollar amount] PYRAMID.

And HOLLYWOOD SQUARES and MATCH GAME.  (Not so much brainpower involved but the starpower atones for it.)

I hate game shows based on luck, like WHEEL OF FORTUNE.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on October 11, 2013, 04:33:32 AM
OH, Match Game!


Chuck and Mark had their [BLANKS] taken from them in Times Square!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on October 11, 2013, 04:49:11 AM
Chuck and Mark had their [BLANKS] taken from them in Times Square!

Oh lord!  :D :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on October 11, 2013, 05:06:18 AM
Wouldn't Charles have fun with that one?   :D

[Charles Nelson Reilly laugh which I can do beautifully in person but which doesn't translate to the page]
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 11, 2013, 10:34:03 AM
if we are going to mention favorite game shows over the years,  password tops my list.  it was the jeopardy of its day.

I thought Jeopardy! with Art Fleming was the Jeopardy! of its day.  ;)

Lord, I remember Art Fleming on JEOPARDY!

When I was in elementary school, that was broadcast over the lunch hour. Kids like me, who lived close to the school, were allowed to go home for lunch, which I did, and my mother and I used to watch it while we ate lunch.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 11, 2013, 02:57:14 PM

The Gene Rayburn Cocktail:  One drink and your mind goes [blank].

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 11, 2013, 03:20:59 PM


Oddly enough, I love almost every game show one way or another
but I never really liked PASSWORD.  Although I did watch a whole weeks worth
of them (5) earlier this year on youtube with Agnes Moorehead as one of the guest stars!

If we had any time off from school, watching game shows was what I wanted to do!
Otherwise, they had to be on when I got home from school and that wasn't too many.

I remember the original New York produced MATCH GAME,
YOU DON'T SAY and LETTERS TO LAUGH-IN being on when
I got back from school.

Besides the real famous ones mentioned, does anyone remember these:

WHO, WHAT or WHERE?
EYE GUESS
THE GAME GAME
PERSONALITY
GENERATION GAP
EVERYBODY'S TALKING
SHOWDOWN
IT TAKES TWO
SHENANIGANS

I also loved CONCENTRATION because of the mechanical board and the clicking sound it made when
the boxes would turn.  In later revival years the computer graphic type boards were just not the same.

Of course, JEOPARDY! was always a favorite. When I was in college I applied
to be a contestant on the show. A month or two later it was cancelled.  When
I came to California there was a one or two year revival of Jeopardy with Art Fleming
that no one remembers. (There was a third round where you had to run a category
up and down or all categories across to win bonus money.)  I applied to be on that one,
too, and it was cancelled a month or two later.  (I remember being in LAX around that time once
and hearing "Would Art Fleming please come to the courtesy desk.")  When Jeopardy came back in
the early 80's I thought, I better not apply or it'll get cancelled.

There's a thread on the home tv forum that talks about how nearly all the game shows for one
reason or another were destroyed or erased in the early 1970's.

In the first years I lived in Los Angeles I saw these few game shows taped:
HOLLYWOOD SQUARES (one of their anniversary weeks so the set was decorated in balloons and such.)
THE MATCH GAME
THE GONG SHOW

And no, I don't remember who guested on those shows, except I remember Paul Lynde, because when they
were changing audiences (you either saw 2 or 3 of the weekly episodes taped) he stepped into the aisle in the
back of the studio to talk to someone and I almost ran into him! I also remember that compared to what you saw
on TV, the Gong Show was really "dirty."  Or should I say "ribald?"

I don't remember seeing any other game shows taped, except one for a pilot that never aired.  I want to
say it was called 100 to 1, but I'm not sure at all.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on October 11, 2013, 08:24:12 PM
When a bunch of us from Louisiana went to the New York World's Fair in 1964, we went to a taping of a game show with Dick Clark as host. Missing Links, maybe?

I got his autograph!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on October 12, 2013, 06:51:58 AM
hey fritz, i was at flushing meadows for that fair as well...  after first making a pest of my self on the moving walkway for viewing the pietŕ, i removed to the costa rican pavilion and the irish pavilion, dancing my ass off to the costa rican music and getting shitfaced drinking the most amazing irish coffee.  my exploring kind of ended right there.  i don't think there have been any world's fairs that i really wanted to attend since then...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on October 12, 2013, 07:58:34 AM
Hey Jack! The one in New Orleans in 1984 was really great, I got down there several times during the year.

We were on a trip to Notre Dame for a student convention (that's when I decided I wanted more than anything to go there) which took place every year, but that year they went via New York and Washington. It was a fantastic trip, 17 busloads of us.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 12, 2013, 01:22:16 PM

Sorry this is way off topic, unless I mention that, for the first time,
TELEVISION covered the opening of the 1939 World's Fair and the other two
programs I mention I saw on television:

In 1964 I so wanted to go to the World's Fair in New York.  I only ended up getting
a World's Fair Game to play instead.

I have seen a documentary about the 1964 World's Fair and found it quite entertaining.
50 Year anniversary next year, egads!

Last April I saw one about the 1962 Seattle World's Fair and that also was very entertaining!

My favorite though, is the documentary narrated by Jason Robards, called THE WORLD OF TOMORROW
and is all about the New York World's Fair of 1939.  If I had a time machine, that's what I'd want to do.
Go back and visit that World's Fair!  The documentray itself is wondrous, fascinating, nostalgic, poignant,
sad, hopeful...most of all it's very entertaining.  That fair will be the 75th Anniversary next year!  Were you
boys at that one, too?   ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 12, 2013, 01:29:21 PM
Interesting episode of Wagon Train today. Suzanne Pleshette was the principal guest star. She played a preacher's daughter who had "gone bad," eloped (Charles Drake played her husband), and ended up addicted to opium. The actress who played her sister looked familiar, but I didn't catch the opening credits, and they weren't repeated in the closing credits. (It took me a while to remember Charles Drake's name, even though I recognized him immediately.)

I guess Wagon Train was something of a prestige show on which to appear as a guest star, "back in the day."

BTW, my grandparents took me to the 1964 New York World's Fair. I was in First Grade. ...  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on October 12, 2013, 04:07:03 PM
According to IMBD, the episode you're talking about was "The Myra Marshal Story", Coop accompanies Grace Marshall to visit her sister Myra whom, traumatized by an upbringing by an abusive father, Grace finds living a life of addiction and infidelity for which Grace wrongfully blames husband Vern.

The cast list shows Grace Marshall being played by Beverly Owen, who is best known as "Marilyn Munster" from The Munsters (1964).  She was Marilyn for one season, but had just married and left the show after one season, as she was pregnant.  She was replaced by Pat Priest.   Below Beverly Owen is on the left.


(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/8TTIqK9nFH8/hqdefault.jpg)(http://www.markymunster.com/markymunster205.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 12, 2013, 05:52:51 PM
According to IMBD, the episode you're talking about was "The Myra Marshal Story", Coop accompanies Grace Marshall to visit her sister Myra whom, traumatized by an upbringing by an abusive father, Grace finds living a life of addiction and infidelity for which Grace wrongfully blames husband Vern.

The cast list shows Grace Marshall being played by Beverly Owen, who is best known as "Marilyn Munster" from The Munsters (1964).  She was Marilyn for one season, but had just married and left the show after one season, as she was pregnant.  She was replaced by Pat Priest.   Below Beverly Owen is on the left.


(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/8TTIqK9nFH8/hqdefault.jpg)(http://www.markymunster.com/markymunster205.jpg)

Thanks, Sweetie! That's the episode.  :-*

I wouldn't have known her from The Munsters, but still, that was interesting. I didn't know anyone other than Pat Priest had played Marilyn.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 18, 2013, 12:03:14 PM
Good grief! In another "community" I have a short while ago discovered perhaps the one person ever who doesn't like I Love Lucy.  :o  :-\  :(

I'm totally puzzled. How can anyone not like I Love Lucy?  ???
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 18, 2013, 01:20:40 PM

I know, right?

I'd have to know what their reason(s) is/are, heh!

Did they say?



Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 18, 2013, 01:46:30 PM

They won't care about this item then:

CBS DVD Announces a Release of 'The I Love Lucy Christmas Special' and more

A three-episode collection on a single disc, with both colorized and original B&W versions of each

"CBS DVD has scheduled a November 5th release for I Love Lucy - The I Love Lucy Christmas Special. The DVD sports both colorized and original black-and-white versions of 3 episodes: "Lucy Christmas Special," "Lucy Goes to Scotland" and "Lucy's Italian Movie." This is ahead of an airing on December 20th by the CBS network for the colorized versions of the first and third items on this DVD."

*****

The Lucy Christmas episode of 1956 was never put into syndication and only aired once, Christmas Eve of 1956.
It was intended as a sort of special and featured three flashbacks to earlier episodes, specifically reminiscing about
Little Ricky being born and all.  It was resurrected in the early 90's (1990-91?) by CBS and they aired it for the first time
in over thirty years.  It scored a Top Ten rating in the Neilsen's that week!

The following year they colorized the episode, except for the "flashback" parts and aired it again.
Subsequently, they have released the Christmas episode separately and also included it on the dvd collections.

When they released a bonus disc of material for I Love Lucy they colorized the LUCY GOES TO SCOTLAND episode.
Supposedly, it was intended to originally be filmed in color to compete that year with NBC's color "Bell Telephone
Hour Series," but at the last minute CBS didn't want to pay for the color film production and they did the episode
anyway in b&w.

I've seen the above colorized episodes and it is interesting to see them that way.

Last year TIME-LIFE put out a dvd release of the 25 (or was it 30) best episodes of I LOVE LUCY.
As a bonus extra they included a colorized episode of LUCY'S ITALIAN MOVIE (the grape stomping
episode) which I'll now get to see on the Lucy network airing in December!

I always wondered why there was always such an outcry about colorization back in the 80's when company's
started doing it.  I don't see what the big deal is.  As long as they don't replace the original versions I'm
all for it.  The biggest hue and cry over it was that "director's didn't intend for those films to be that way."
Well, in the case of the Lucy Scotland episode, they did intend it to be that way, right?  And Mervyn LeRoy
did not intend for THE WIZARD OF OZ to be in 3-D IMAX and digital sound, either, but here it is in movie
theaters right now!  There was no hue and cry about showing their color films on black & white tv's back
when that was the only option, either, was there?  Nor did they cry about them being seen on tv's themselves
when they were meant to be seen on big movie screens.  Ennis del Mark sent me a copy of an article that
Kenneth Turan wrote rebutting the anti-colorization folks back in the 80's which I thought was spot on.

Anyhoo, for example, I watched Brokeback Mountain in black and white one night just to see what that
would be like, so sue me!  I've also watched it dubbed in French and Spanish.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 20, 2013, 05:58:00 PM
Good grief! In another "community" I have a short while ago discovered perhaps the one person ever who doesn't like I Love Lucy.  :o  :-\  :(

I'm totally puzzled. How can anyone not like I Love Lucy?  ???

I know, right?

I'd have to know what their reason(s) is/are, heh!

Did they say?

No, he didn't.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 20, 2013, 06:02:33 PM
They won't care about this item then:

CBS DVD Announces a Release of 'The I Love Lucy Christmas Special' and more
The Lucy Christmas episode of 1956 was never put into syndication and only aired once, Christmas Eve of 1956.
It was intended as a sort of special and featured three flashbacks to earlier episodes, specifically reminiscing about
Little Ricky being born and all.  It was resurrected in the early 90's (1990-91?) by CBS and they aired it for the first time
in over thirty years.  It scored a Top Ten rating in the Neilsen's that week!

If this is what I think it is, I saw it then and taped it myself off the broadcast, but it's been so long since I watched it that pretty much all I remember is Lucy having Fred cut so many branches off the Christmas tree that in the end they were left with just a stick. And they had the old-fashioned lights where if one burned out, the whole string went out.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on October 22, 2013, 03:24:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW9So2kPZoo
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on October 25, 2013, 08:04:38 PM
There's nothing but smooth sailing for Gavin McLeod these days.

The actor, now 82, rose to fame playing Captain Merrill Stubing in the hit '80s series The Love Boat, but over the years, he's been steering an entirely new course for himself – one firmly anchored to his identity as a man of faith.

On Tuesday, McLeod released his memoir, This Is Your Captain Speaking: My Fantastic Voyage Through Hollywood, Faith & Life, which chronicles the choppy waters he's sailed: two heart attacks, two marriages and his battles with alcoholism and depression.

Now, in an interview with Religion News Service (via The Huffington Post), the actor, who is a devout member of the Pentecostal church, speaks out about his spiritual journey – one that took him from Roman Catholicism to the New Age movement to Pentecostalism. (He proudly describes himself as "ambassador for Christ.")


read on....or not!  :D


http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20749274,00.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on October 25, 2013, 10:36:34 PM
Good grief! In another "community" I have a short while ago discovered perhaps the one person ever who doesn't like I Love Lucy.  :o  :-\  :(

I'm totally puzzled. How can anyone not like I Love Lucy?  ???


Who was it?  I demand to know!

Just kidding.  I know several people who don't like it, and are tactless enough to remind me of the fact, knowing full well that Lucille Ball is my all-time favorite, and "I Love Lucy" is my second favorite TV show ever (nudged out of the top spot ever so slightly by "Friends").
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 25, 2013, 10:53:40 PM
There's nothing but smooth sailing for Gavin McLeod these days.

The actor, now 82, rose to fame playing Captain Merrill Stubing in the hit '80s series The Love Boat, but over the years, he's been steering an entirely new course for himself – one firmly anchored to his identity as a man of faith.

On Tuesday, McLeod released his memoir, This Is Your Captain Speaking: My Fantastic Voyage Through Hollywood, Faith & Life, which chronicles the choppy waters he's sailed: two heart attacks, two marriages and his battles with alcoholism and depression.

Now, in an interview with Religion News Service (via The Huffington Post), the actor, who is a devout member of the Pentecostal church, speaks out about his spiritual journey – one that took him from Roman Catholicism to the New Age movement to Pentecostalism. (He proudly describes himself as "ambassador for Christ.")


read on....or not!  :D


http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20749274,00.html

Despite all those years on The Love Boat, I still tend to think of him as Murray on The Mary Tyler Moore Show.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on October 26, 2013, 07:25:01 AM
Same here.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on October 26, 2013, 09:12:46 AM
Here too. never watched The Love Boat, as far as I can remember.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 26, 2013, 10:22:20 AM
I never watched Love Boat or it's companion, Fantasy Island, either.

Interestingly, I saw an episode last night of My Favorite Martian and Gavin McLeod played Mrs. Brown's brother.
(She was Martin's landlady.) Apparently he was on a few episodes of that show as that character. With a full head
of hair. Real or not? I kept wondering.

He pops up a lot in many tv series of the 60's.  I've seen him in Dick van Dyke, Hogan's Heroes, several episodes of
The Untouchables (so does Ed Asner) and Combat!  And come to think of it, wasn't he a regular, as one of the crew,
on McHale's Navy?  He could've titled his book "From PT Boat to Cruise Ship."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 26, 2013, 10:27:33 AM

On Halloween, Antenna-TV is airing twenty-four hours of "Alfred Hitchcock Presents."  So that
would be 48 episodes.  It's titled the rather irking name of "Hitch-O-Ween."  They need to hire
ME-TV's clever ad people!

I watched a rather clever episode of that show last night called Hooked, with Anne Francis.

Usually when Antenna-TV airs a marathon of a series, it usually signals it's leaving the network.
Wonder if that's the case here.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on October 26, 2013, 12:22:05 PM
And come to think of it, wasn't he a regular, as one of the crew,
on McHale's Navy?  He could've titled his book "From PT Boat to Cruise Ship."


Lyle, he was in 73 episodes (out of 138), of McHale's Navy as Joseph "Happy" Haines. Gavin left prior to the last season.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on October 26, 2013, 06:43:10 PM
MacLeod's first movie appearance was a small, uncredited role in The True Story of Lynn Stuart in 1958. Soon thereafter, he landed a credited role in I Want to Live!, a 1958 prison drama starring Susan Hayward. He was soon noticed by Blake Edwards, who in 1958 cast him as a neurotic harried navy yeoman in Operation Petticoat with Cary Grant and Tony Curtis. Operation Petticoat proved to be a breakout role for MacLeod, and he was soon cast in another Edwards comedy, High Time, with Bing Crosby.

MacLeod also appeared as the villain on TV shows of the late 1950s and early 1960s, including Edwards's private-eye series, Peter Gunn. He played the role of a drug pusher, "Big Chicken", in two episodes of the first season of Hawaii Five-O. His first regular TV role came in 1962 as Joseph "Happy" Haines on McHale's Navy; leaving after two seasons to appear in The Sand Pebbles.[3] MacLeod had three guest appearances on Perry Mason: in 1961 he played Lawrence Comminger in "The Case of the Grumbling Grandfather", and in 1965 he played Mortimer Hershey in "The Case of the Grinning Gorilla", and Dan Platte in "The Case of the Runaway Racer".

MacLeod's role as Murray Slaughter on The Mary Tyler Moore Show won him lasting fame, and two Golden Globe nominations. His role as Captain Stubing on The Love Boat was his next notable role on a hit TV series. His work on that show earned him three Golden Globe nominations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_MacLeod
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on October 26, 2013, 07:10:20 PM
Marcia Wallace -- who voiced Edna Krabappel on "The Simpsons" -- died last night in Los Angeles ... TMZ has learned.

Marcia's caregiver tells us ... the actress passed away at home with her family by her side.  We're told she had been sick for the past few months ... but the caregiver couldn't go into specifics.

Wallace has been on TV since the 70's -- and spent 3 decades on various game show panels like "Hollywood Squares", "The $25,000 Pyramid" and "Match Game" ... as well as receptionist Carol Kester on "The Bob Newhart Show."

The actress was also a huge activist for breast cancer ... after being diagnosed with the disease in 1985.

She was 70.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz2isdoeKqh
Visit Fishwrapper: http://www.fishwrapper.com
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 27, 2013, 06:19:31 PM
Marcia Wallace -- who voiced Edna Krabappel on "The Simpsons" -- died last night in Los Angeles ... TMZ has learned.

Marcia's caregiver tells us ... the actress passed away at home with her family by her side.  We're told she had been sick for the past few months ... but the caregiver couldn't go into specifics.

Wallace has been on TV since the 70's -- and spent 3 decades on various game show panels like "Hollywood Squares", "The $25,000 Pyramid" and "Match Game" ... as well as receptionist Carol Kester on "The Bob Newhart Show."

The actress was also a huge activist for breast cancer ... after being diagnosed with the disease in 1985.

She was 70.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com#ixzz2isdoeKqh
Visit Fishwrapper: http://www.fishwrapper.com


Sad news.  :(  I mainly knew her as Carol Kester on The Bob Newhart Show.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on October 27, 2013, 06:51:07 PM
Me too.  I loved her.

(I've never even seen The Simpsons.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on October 28, 2013, 06:39:06 PM
(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2013/10/Marcia-Wallace-Edna-Krabappel.jpg)


Edna Krabappel /krəˈbɑːpəl/ is a fictional character from the animated TV series The Simpsons, who was voiced by Marcia Wallace. She is the teacher of Bart Simpson's 4th grade class at Springfield Elementary School, and Ned Flanders's wife in later seasons. Krabappel was the only character that Wallace voiced on a regular basis. Following Wallace's death, the show's producers intend to retire the character.

Marcia Wallace won an Emmy Award in 1992 for voicing Krabappel in the third season-episode "Bart the Lover".  IGN called "Special Edna" the best episode of the fourteenth season of the show.  Tilda Swinton modeled her hairdo in the film Burn After Reading on Krabappel's.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 29, 2013, 10:20:33 AM
(I've never even seen The Simpsons.)

Perhaps a bit OT, but I'm glad to know that there is at least one other person in this world in addition to myself who has never watched The Simpsons.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on October 29, 2013, 04:20:38 PM
Perhaps a bit OT, but I'm glad to know that there is at least one other person in this world in addition to myself who has never watched The Simpsons.

Me either. It was never appealing to me.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 29, 2013, 04:49:16 PM
Me either. It was never appealing to me.

Glad to know, Sweetheart!  :D  :-*

And when I look at stills from the show, and then compare it to the cartooning of the old Warner Brothers or Hanna-Barbera cartoons, I can't imaging sitting and watching it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on October 29, 2013, 05:03:35 PM
Glad to know, Sweetheart!  :D  :-*

And when I look at stills from the show, and then compare it to the cartooning of the old Warner Brothers or Hanna-Barbera cartoons, I can't imaging sitting and watching it.

Yeah, Jeff. I am a diehard classic cartoon lover as well. I'll watch the classic forever, the new ones, never.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on October 29, 2013, 05:23:01 PM
Since its debut on December 17, 1989, the show has broadcast 532 episodes and the 25th season began on September 30, 2013. The Simpsons is the longest-running American sitcom, the longest-running American animated program, and in 2009 it surpassed Gunsmoke as the longest-running American primetime, scripted television series. The Simpsons Movie, a feature-length film, was released in theaters worldwide on July 26 and July 27, 2007, and grossed over $527 million.

The Simpsons is widely considered to be one of the greatest television series of all time. Time magazine's December 31, 1999, issue named it the 20th century's best television series, and on January 14, 2000, the Simpson family was awarded a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. It has won dozens of awards since it debuted as a series, including 27 Primetime Emmy Awards, 30 Annie Awards and a Peabody Award. Homer's exclamatory catchphrase "D'oh!" has been adopted into the English language, while The Simpsons has influenced many adult-oriented animated sitcoms.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Simpsons



I am always on the fence with The Simpsons, personally I don't watch it.  I doubt I have ever sat through one entire episode.  But both my boys are die hard fans (and their wives) they all grew up with it.  They can quote episodes line for line, the one who got married last year, even showed clips in a montage during his reception!   :">



I mean 25 seasons, that is crazy!!


The Flintstones ran for 6 seasons and it is going down in history, of course apparently the Simpsons is too!


I am just glad Marcia had a part in such a successful show, makes me think she was probably earning some decent money and got to enjoy some of the finer things in life, I hope so, because she was gone too soon!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 30, 2013, 12:12:42 PM

I love the classic Warner Bros. and Disney cartoons, too, and I grew up on Hanna-Barbera cartoons on TV, but
just last week the animated special Toy Story of Terror, which I myself dismissed at first, was freakin' brilliant. IMO.

Frankly, the old Warner Bros. and nearly all "theatrically released" animation are great quality.  But Warner Bros.
own shows they made for tv, like the Bugs Bunny Show are alot more inferior to the theatrical animated ones.
Just compare Columbia's Mr. Magoo animated shorts to the TV shorts they made.  Quite a difference. And
Hanna-Barbera's animation was always considered inferior by experts.  That doesn't mean they don't offer
anything or that people don't like them.  But I find a lot of merit to various current incarnations, too.

I always liked the Warner Bros. cartoon characters more than any Disney ones, for some reason.
Also liked Columbia's Mr. Magoo and United Artists Pink Panther.  And The Jetsons.

I can't imagine any series being worth being on for twenty-five years.  The animated characters don't even age
in all that time!  I wonder if anyone's thought about doing an animated series where they plan to age the characters
over time.  Like have the kids grow up and such?

I'm trying to find an animated smiley!  Heh.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Willowey on October 30, 2013, 01:51:47 PM
I enjoy The Simpson's. My friend Alisha has every season on DVD so far. I wouldn't say I'm that diehard, but if it's on TV, I'll watch it. I also liked King of the Hill and, yes, I also enjoy Family Guy. But that's not to say I don't enjoy some of the classic cartoons. I loved The Flintstones and The Jetsons and I still watch Bugs Bunny and Tweety with my mom.

What bugs me is some of the cartoons I grew up with are now computer animated like Care Bears and Franklin. It's a little frightening if you ask me, but my nieces and nephews don't seem to care, so I guess it's OK for them.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on October 30, 2013, 04:01:47 PM
Perhaps a bit OT, but I'm glad to know that there is at least one other person in this world in addition to myself who has never watched The Simpsons.
make that two.  seen it, but moved on rapidly.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on October 30, 2013, 05:06:58 PM
And Hanna-Barbera's animation was always considered inferior by experts.  That doesn't mean they don't offer anything or that people don't like them.  But I find a lot of merit to various current incarnations, too.

I'm one of those who was entertained by Hanna-Barbera, but looking back, I have to agree. 

And this comes from someone who owns all 13 DVDs from The Super Friends series.  LOL
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 30, 2013, 05:21:46 PM
The way I see it, there is animation, and then there is drawing, or cartooning, and I make a distinction between the two. I seem to remember that there is a difference, for example, in the number of drawings per frame of film, or something like that, between, say, a classic Disney like Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, and a Hanna-Barbera TV cartoon--and I suppose there may even be a difference between different Hanna-Barbera cartoons.

I find the drawing, or cartooning, style of The Simpsons totally unattractive. That's just my taste.

At least the Flintstones and the Jetsons had skin tones that looked like skin tones. Edna Krabappel looks like she has a severe case of jaundice.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on October 30, 2013, 05:32:39 PM
Yea count me in as one who finds the computer animated cartoons a bit scary, they are so life like!  :o




Here is a cute article, a few years old now though:

(http://blogs.babble.com/famecrawler/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/the-flintstones-300x225.jpg)


The Flintstone Characters Turn 50 Today

Fifty years ago today, the world was introduced to The Flintstones characters, most notably Fred, Wilma, Barney, and Betty. The cartoon was the first animated series to air in prime time, and adults and children alike couldn’t wait for the show’s premiere. The series, which was created by Hanna Barbara, ran for six seasons. It was the longest running animated prime time show up until the Simpsons came along.

The Flintstones was made to imitate modern time situations, but set in the prehistoric era. The Flintstones characters were even inspired by real life actors and actresses. It’s no secret that the show was modeled after The Honeymooners, with Fred being reminiscent of Jackie Gleason’s character, Ralph Cramden. Fred Flintstone’s neighbor and friend, Barney Rubble, was made to resemble Art Carney’s character, Ed Norton. Wilma and Betty took on the personalities of the wives on The Honeymooners.

The association was so apparent, that Jackie Gleason himself even threatened to sue Hanna Barbera. He supposedly decided not to go through with it, because he didn’t want to be known as “the guy who yanked Fred Flintstone off the air.”

Other Flinstones guest characters were also inspired by real life actors. For example:

“Cary Granite” – Cary Grant

“Stony Curtis” – Tony Curtis

“Ed Sulleyrock” – Ed Sullivan

“Rock Hudstone” – Rock Hudson

“Ann Margrock” – Ann Margaret

The Flintstones and its characters continue to delight kids to this day…especially in the form of Flintstone vitamins. Happy Anniversary to the Flintstones!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 30, 2013, 08:37:40 PM
Thanks, Bubba!  :)

I remember Stony Curtis and Ann Margrock!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on October 30, 2013, 09:13:54 PM
I can hear the music in my head!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on October 30, 2013, 11:08:18 PM
http://youtu.be/2s13X66BFd8
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 31, 2013, 10:35:39 AM


I love Ann Margrock!

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-P1E694GqxWU/TlJySQWCZ5I/AAAAAAAABRI/qQYgXBdBnpM/s400/FLINTSTONES-ANN-MARGRET.jpg)


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 31, 2013, 10:40:23 AM

And don't forget Darrin and Samantha lived in the neighborhood in a special October episode in 1965!
(I believe Hanna-Barbera did the animation in the Bewitched credits, as well.)

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjAzNDYyMzQ2MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNDA5OTE2._V1_SY317_CR17,0,214,317_.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 31, 2013, 10:41:44 AM

And since it's Halloween, I hope your evening is:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9e/Bewitched_color_title_card.jpg)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Willowey on October 31, 2013, 10:55:44 AM
I loved Bewitched. I watch it with my mom all the time. My favourite classic TV shows are:

1. Gilligan's Island
2. Happy Days
3. The Facts of Life

Perfect coming of age shows. Well, Gilligan wasn't really coming of age, but it was really funny and you grew to love the characters.  :)Mary Ann :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 31, 2013, 11:50:22 AM
And don't forget Darrin and Samantha lived in the neighborhood in a special October episode in 1965!
(I believe Hanna-Barbera did the animation in the Bewitched credits, as well.)

(http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjAzNDYyMzQ2MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwNDA5OTE2._V1_SY317_CR17,0,214,317_.jpg)


D'oh! How could I forget that?!?!  :o  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 31, 2013, 11:52:34 AM
And since it's Halloween, I hope your evening is:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9e/Bewitched_color_title_card.jpg)



I always liked the episode where Sam scared the daylights out of the candy manufacturer who thought witches were only old and ugly.

He sold more candy when he put a sexy witch on the package because it was bought by men on their way home from work!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on October 31, 2013, 01:11:49 PM
One of my favorites too, Jeff!

It was called THE WITCHES ARE OUT and was first broadcast on October 29, 1964.  It was the seventh episode of the series and the first appearance of Aunt Clara.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 31, 2013, 01:23:43 PM
One of my favorites too, Jeff!

It was called THE WITCHES ARE OUT and was first broadcast on October 29, 1964.  It was the seventh episode of the series and the first appearance of Aunt Clara.

That reminds me. I need to polish my doorknob collection. ...  ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on October 31, 2013, 02:40:36 PM
Speaking of theme songs!


http://www.bewitched.net/music.htm


 ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 10, 2013, 11:11:41 AM

Friday night ME-TV has a block where they are airing those reunion movies based on previous television series.
I don't know how many of these types of movies were made, but I don't know of any that ever got good reviews.
The one on Friday was Return to Mayberry and I watched about ten minutes of it before I had to give up. Mostly
these misguided efforts are sad and they have the characters you came to know trying to be as amusing and energetic
as they were a couple decades before. I remember one the Addams Family did. It was in color and that was jarring in
and of itself.  I know they did ones for Beverly Hillbillies and Green Acres and Gilligan's Island did three!  Mary & Rhoda
was another one.  It was a bit better than most in the genre, but not much.

A better idea is when they brought the casts back together for anniversary celebrations of their shows and showed clips
and told stories.  Then there was the genre of making tv movies about how awful it was to have made all these shows!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on November 10, 2013, 11:14:53 AM
These never work.  Kudos to the FRIENDS cast for ixnaying plans for a reunion movie.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 10, 2013, 11:16:14 AM

This week ME-TV has started airing The Alfred Hitchcock Hour. After 7 seasons of
Alfred Hitchcock Presents, they continued with it three more years in an hour format with this title.
I am enjoying these shows so far, but I noticed that they started last Monday with episode #4 on
and I wanted to see the first episode because Robert Redford guest starred on it. They must've
had a Halloween event or something and showed the first three episodes before Monday at some
point.  Wouldn't you know.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 10, 2013, 11:25:47 AM
These never work.  Kudos to the FRIENDS cast for ixnaying plans for a reunion movie.

They could call it Old Friends.  Lol!

Hi, Mark, old friend!
 
I think the first Gilligan's Island one at least had the best reason for a tv movie years later.  It's just
that the second hour of it was about Russian spies (Sherwood Schwartz always seemed to have some
idiotic affinity for plots about Russian spies) and, of course, they couldn't get Tina Louise to be sane.
She was on and off again about it and ultimately wanted a ransom for doing it and they wouldn't.
(Lots of stories about her being nuts in this town.) And, of course, the genius of that movie, and I know
that most would never associate that word genius with that show, but the denouement of that movie was
that they dared to have them end up on the same island again!  (Duh, of course!  Just like the series!)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Willowey on November 11, 2013, 10:14:58 AM
, but the denouement of that movie was that they dared to have them end up on the same island again!  (Duh, of course!  Just like the series!)

That's part of what makes the series what it is. :D Gilligan's Island never really made sense, but that's why I love it so much. The series and the characters are so innocent.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on November 14, 2013, 10:43:36 AM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/fave0173davidpu.jpg)


Any Partridge Family fans?  I use to watch it all the time, David was my first boyfriend!  Of course he didn't know it.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065333/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on November 14, 2013, 11:06:55 AM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/kildareshow05.jpg)


Actually I lie, he was probably my first crush!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on November 14, 2013, 08:09:40 PM
Oh Damn!! Mine too!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 15, 2013, 03:40:23 AM
ok, so who is it?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on November 15, 2013, 07:05:34 AM
Richard Chamberlain as DR. KILDARE!

A first crush for MANY of us!

(Chuck, ten demerits for you!)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 15, 2013, 10:59:15 AM

I remember when I got new school clothes in 1964 or 65 I got an official Dr. Kildare shirt.
It was tailored to look somewhat like a doctor's smock. I was too young to even stay
up and watch it, so I guess it was more for the mom's to know what it was and buy it.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bentgyro on November 15, 2013, 11:51:05 AM
Ben Casey was Dr Kildares TV rival.  Dr Kildare was one of my crushes, too!  Ben Casey was just too dark and hairy. ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on November 15, 2013, 12:48:31 PM
But Ben Casey (Vince Edwards) was so hunky! I liked him a lot!

http://myfirstgaycrush.blogspot.com/2011/09/steven-loves-brian-kelly.html

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 15, 2013, 06:50:36 PM
Richard Chamberlain as DR. KILDARE!

A first crush for MANY of us!

(Chuck, ten demerits for you!)


Dr. James Kildare is a fictional character, the primary character in a series of American theatrical films in the late 1930s and early 1940s, an early 1950s radio series, a 1960s television series of the same name and a comic book based on the TV show, and a short-lived second 1970s television series.


before my time, so there.   *sweeps away demerits*
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on November 15, 2013, 06:54:04 PM
Chuck would go for Ben Casey (Vince Edwards)

(http://www.poorwilliam.net/pix/edwards-vince.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 15, 2013, 06:57:15 PM
oh, yum!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on November 15, 2013, 07:04:33 PM
I thought so!! :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on November 15, 2013, 07:08:46 PM
Age is no excuse for not knowing about hunky men, Chuck!  Before your time or NOT!

You need to quit focusing on that Ciccone wench and bone up (and trust me, you WILL) on hunks of the 1950s, 60s, and 70s!

I'm keeping those demerits on file in case you become lax once again, young man!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 15, 2013, 07:15:49 PM
You need to quit focusing on that Ciccone wench and bone up (and trust me, you WILL) on hunks of the 1950s, 60s, and 70s!

to keep this on topic, did you know that Madonna was on an episode of Will and Grace?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxYhUYxQDAs
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on November 15, 2013, 07:24:58 PM
I do indeed.

Back to the 60s, did anyone know that MY MOTHER, THE CAR was just released on DVD?

Hard to believe that Allen Burns and Chris Hayward created this one.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on November 15, 2013, 07:25:06 PM
Oh, for those who watch Christmas movies (on TV) Hallmark Movie Channel is going to run 3 Classic Christmas movies every Thursday night till Christmas. Make sure you know this is the Hallmark MOVIE channel which is different from the just plain Hallmark Channel which also shows classic TV shows.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on November 15, 2013, 08:09:37 PM
ok, so who is it?

 :D  Richard Chamberlin, it even looks like him?   Did you watch The Thorn Birds?


I was also young, probably six when I had my crush on him.  I use to sing.........take me up to hospital, take me up to my room, give me a needle cause I don't care, I'm in love with Dr. Kildaire!


 :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 16, 2013, 09:57:38 AM
Back to the 60s, did anyone know that MY MOTHER, THE CAR was just released on DVD?

50 years later I don't know what to say about this, except that when I was a child I did watch it
every week.  As a curiosity I'd check it out on an episode by episode basis. I have always thought
actor Jerry Van Dyke was annoying.  Either that, or he usually just played annoying characters. I
did not care for him on The DvD Show,  He was annoying on Coach. If he had played Gilligan
(it's stated he was offered that role) I probably would've hated Gilligan, too!  If the show was
broadcast in color I would like to see that, too, cause I wonder what color his mother was? What
I remember is that The Red Skelton Comedy Hour was on after this. (Maybe another network, but
same night.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 16, 2013, 09:58:13 AM

Red Skelton is largely forgotten by modern audiences for whatever reason. Probably because he
mostly left the public eye when his last series went off the air in 1971. His show was on in various
incarnations over twenty years, but always ranked in the top ten--even the last year he was on CBS!
Can you imagine cancelling a show in the Top Ten? The last year NBC picked him up for a 1/2 hour
verison, but it didn't work and he left the airwaves.  If anything, most people who remember him
do so from his 1962-70 CBS hour long run, but there is scant little of that to see.  And it's probably
mostly due to the usual problem--expensive MUSIC rights. He had musical guests (like the Supremes!)
on his hour long shows, but the 1/2 hrs. usually did not. And, unlike his contemporaries, Red SKelton
didn't do guest spots on other people's shows (with rare exception) and appear on talk shows. Many
of his 1/2 hr. b&w shows from the 50's are available and the last season of NBC 1/2 hr. shows is available.
One annoying thing is that dvd releases of Red Skelton material are often poor quality and overlap in
content all over the place.  Oh, well.  But I remember enjoying him every Tuesday night. I suppose
modern audiences would think he was just plain too silly, but we need more silliness nowadays, don't
we?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 16, 2013, 10:06:07 AM

Just my opinion, about Richard Chamberlain...somehow I've always had the impression that he was like one
of those stereotypical frat boy snobs you see in movies. That he felt the common folk were beneath him or
something. I don't know why, just an impression I'd always have. Maybe it came from him being gay and
having an air of "don'tgettooclose" that he projected...I don't know.  But I still kinda feel that way. Especially
when he did come out...wrote a book...and then said he didn't really think other gay actors should do it
as it might harm their careers. And Richard Chamberlain was on Will & Grace, too! In fact, didn't every
formerly closeted celebrity who came out appear on W&G, like George Takei?
 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bentgyro on November 16, 2013, 01:57:59 PM
I remember Red Skelton and I always thought him hilarious.
I also watched him movies.
I seem to remember that Vince Edwards and Richard Chamberlain had a falling out that they didn't mend.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 16, 2013, 04:06:46 PM
:D  Richard Chamberlin, it even looks like him?   Did you watch The Thorn Birds?

Nope, I was 14 when it was on, and most likely at that time had no interest in it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 16, 2013, 06:03:54 PM
I do indeed.

Back to the 60s, did anyone know that MY MOTHER, THE CAR was just released on DVD?

Hard to believe that Allen Burns and Chris Hayward created this one.

What on earth for?  ???  Probably the only thing worse was Me and the Chimp.  :D

Ann Sothern must have really needed the money. ...  8)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 16, 2013, 06:06:24 PM
Age is no excuse for not knowing about hunky men, Chuck!  Before your time or NOT!

Certainly no excuse for not knowing Richard Chamberlain.

Restores Chuck's demerits. ...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 16, 2013, 06:10:53 PM
Red Skelton is largely forgotten by modern audiences for whatever reason. Probably because he
mostly left the public eye when his last series went off the air in 1971. His show was on in various
incarnations over twenty years, but always ranked in the top ten--even the last year he was on CBS!

We always watched him when I was a kid.

I still remember Gertrude and Heathcliff, the two seagulls.  8)  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on November 16, 2013, 06:24:29 PM
Red Skelton has always been my most favorite comedian.
His humor was so funny and yet so gentle.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 16, 2013, 06:44:33 PM
Certainly no excuse for not knowing Richard Chamberlain.

Restores Chuck's demerits. ...

I reject your restoration.  So there!

If I had to think of a childhood crush from classic tv, this man was the winner.  ;D





(http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/1805/Gil4.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on November 16, 2013, 07:05:35 PM
I also thought Russell Johnson was handsome.

My big heartthrobs were Robert Conrad and Ross Martin.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 17, 2013, 10:00:26 AM
I still remember Gertrude and Heathcliff, the two seagulls.  8)  :D

Gertrude:  "Things nowadays are getting dangerous. You can't even be safe in the park.

Heathcliff: "I know what you mean. The other day I was in the park and asked for a cracker and I got a salted."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on November 17, 2013, 10:25:38 AM
I liked Red Skelton a lot.

There's a bridge across the Wabash River carrying US 50 in Vincennes IN, his home town, named in his honor.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on November 17, 2013, 01:13:10 PM
Aww who doesn't like Red Skeleton!


Probably 90% of what is discussed in this thread, I never saw live, I was too young (and I am old  :D) but we catch it all in re-runs.  My daughter in law is a big I love Lucy Fan, she is 28.....  just like music, my son is a big John Lennon fan, sometimes I find it so hard to believe that John died before my son was even born!   He asked me one day "Mom where were you when you heard that news"?


So yea you gotta know the hunky men, all of them!   Which brings me to my next post, off to the movie thread!  :D



Oh and yea I always thought Richard Chamberlin was a bit stand offish, a bit full of himself, but it never put me off!      And see The Thorn Birds, read the book (anyone who hasn't) it's worth it.





Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on November 17, 2013, 07:08:43 PM
I never thought Chamberlain was stand-offish in mien, but with his looks he damn well deserved to be.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 18, 2013, 07:19:14 AM
I never thought Chamberlain was stand-offish in mien, but with his looks he damn well deserved to be.

I might have said "unapproachable" because he was so damn handsome, but I don't think that's quite the same as "standoffish."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on November 26, 2013, 01:52:09 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1341935/Richard-Chamberlain-Why-I-kept-gay-life-secret-Dr-Kildare.html

I didn't know he wrote a book, i will have to read that sometime.


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/Richard_Chamberlain_Daniela_Bianchi_Raymond_Massey_Dr_Kildare_1964.JPG/495px-Richard_Chamberlain_Daniela_Bianchi_Raymond_Massey_Dr_Kildare_1964.JPG)


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on November 28, 2013, 05:01:51 PM
The Honeymooners star Jane Kean dies at 90 after suffering a stroke

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2515238/The-Honeymooners-star-Jane-Kean-dies-90-suffering-stroke.html#ixzz2lzJzBI6y
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on December 06, 2013, 06:05:12 PM
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d145/cccccarol/andy-griffith-show-3007_zps2adbb858.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on December 06, 2013, 08:01:47 PM
(http://snsimages.tribune.com/media/photo/2009-10/23725778764580-20092727.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on December 06, 2013, 08:02:41 PM
(http://snsimages.tribune.com/media/photo/2009-10/23725778761800-20092739.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 08, 2013, 12:51:37 PM

Tonight's Episode:

(http://www.jeffco.ca/chrspecials/wp-content/gallery/the-untouchables-the-night-they-shot-santa-claus/the-untouchables-the-night-they-shot-santa-claus-01.jpg)

(Any guesses?)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on December 09, 2013, 01:36:25 PM
The Untouchables?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 09, 2013, 02:40:53 PM

You are correct!

It was the first episode of the fourth season. (Why? I don't know, maybe they figured it would disturb people in December! Or maybe
they figured they'd rerun it then? The series that year aired on the same day of the week Christmas was and they didn't air a new episode
that day, so maybe they did rerun it.) It stars one of my favorite actresses that usually only had guest star parts in tv series, Nita Talbot.
She may be best known for her recurring role as a Russian woman on Hogan's Heroes, for which she was Emmy nominated. She is still
around, I'm told. Another recognizable face in the episode: Ed Asner! Also, one of the little boys who witnesses this is Butch Patrick, who
in a couple more years would be Eddie Munster. Also saw him in a Mister Ed episode.

Here's a couple other shots from this very different "Christmas episode".

(http://www.jeffco.ca/chrspecials/wp-content/gallery/the-untouchables-the-night-they-shot-santa-claus/the-untouchables-the-night-they-shot-santa-claus-02.jpg)(http://www.jeffco.ca/chrspecials/wp-content/gallery/the-untouchables-the-night-they-shot-santa-claus/the-untouchables-the-night-they-shot-santa-claus-06.jpg)(http://www.jeffco.ca/chrspecials/wp-content/gallery/the-untouchables-the-night-they-shot-santa-claus/the-untouchables-the-night-they-shot-santa-claus-11.jpg)
(http://www.jeffco.ca/chrspecials/wp-content/gallery/the-untouchables-the-night-they-shot-santa-claus/the-untouchables-the-night-they-shot-santa-claus-12.jpg)(http://www.jeffco.ca/chrspecials/wp-content/gallery/the-untouchables-the-night-they-shot-santa-claus/the-untouchables-the-night-they-shot-santa-claus-15.jpg)(http://www.jeffco.ca/chrspecials/wp-content/gallery/the-untouchables-the-night-they-shot-santa-claus/the-untouchables-the-night-they-shot-santa-claus-20.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on December 11, 2013, 03:35:40 PM
 :D  Yea they should show it now!


(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/131125122926-07-gift-ideas-1125-horizontal-gallery.png)


 If you never got a dinner ... check out "The Dean Martin Celebrity Roasts." Comedy Central does roasts now, but few comedic hours can match the classics hosted by Martin in the '70s and '80s. The guests included Ronald Reagan, Bob Hope, Johnny Carson and Hugh Hefner, and the panels featured Bob Newhart, George Burns, Lucille Ball -- and, of course, Red Buttons and Foster (hic!) Brooks. Priceless. (StarVista, $249.95)




I will take that under my tree!



http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/27/showbiz/entertainment-gift-guide-story/index.html?iref=allsearch&hpt=hp_c4


Actually a few neat ideas here.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on December 16, 2013, 05:47:33 PM
'I rarely drink spirits any more, as I find wine strong enough. I do enjoy a glass or two': Under the microscope with comedian Ronnie Corbett

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2524844/Under-microscope-comedian-Ronnie-Corbett.html#ixzz2ngknFoXt
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Anyone remember Ronnie Corbett?


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 16, 2013, 06:29:19 PM

Anyone going to watch the I LOVE LUCY Special on Friday? They
are airing two colorized episodes.  One is the Christmas episode
where they flashback to scenes of Little Ricky being born and such.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-y7JQtbJtyu4/UmfmrrTm7LI/AAAAAAAAKpA/RuXB_Nl2M6A/s1600/I-Love-Lucy-Christmas-Special-in-Color.jpg)

The articles about this special say that it is being shown on primetime network tv for the first time in
color, which is not true. They first aired the episode again in 1990 and colorized it the following year
and it is on the dvd release. Other articles suggest it was “redone” and so that’s correct. We shall see.

The second episode they’re showing is Lucy’s Italian Movie which features Lucy “soaking up local
color” via the grape stomping scene.  I’ve not seen that one in color and am looking forward to it!

(http://greginhollywood.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/7705805252_deab403dd1_z-400x319.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 22, 2013, 03:27:39 PM

I guess no one watched.

For what it's worth, if they did redo the Christmas color episode I didn't see any difference, except I thought
Little Ricky's pajamas were blue the first time and not green.

The grapes episode is amusing, in color or not, but since I've seen them all so many times it's just
interesting to see them in a little different way. Since Lucy episodes were nearly 26 minutes long and
now shows are about 4 mins. shorter, it seems they had to edit out about 8 minutes. I think they took
most of it out of one of the flashback sequences in the Christmas episode.

***

I checked the dvd of the original colored Christmas episode and they did change his pajamas color (I thought
the blue looked better) and other minor things here and there.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 22, 2013, 04:10:12 PM
I totally forgot it was going to be on, so only saw part of it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 27, 2013, 03:32:37 PM
I guess no one watched.

I did, and I was pleasantly surprised. The colorization looked more "natural" than I was expecting.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on December 28, 2013, 09:40:31 AM
Nope missed it, but spoke to a few people who did and everyone seemed to enjoy it!


Not sure if I posted this or not, but I was looking up Lucy one night and was surprised to read how she died:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucille_Ball
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on December 28, 2013, 11:51:04 AM
I cannot believe that next April 26 will be 25 years since she died.  I remember the day like it was yesterday.  One of the saddest days of my life.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on December 30, 2013, 06:24:35 PM
I forgot to post this--one of my Christmas presents was the entire DVD box set of PERRY MASON!  All 271 episodes from 1957 to 1966!

I'm having a great time watching them!   
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 31, 2013, 07:17:41 AM
I forgot to post this--one of my Christmas presents was the entire DVD box set of PERRY MASON!  All 271 episodes from 1957 to 1966!

I'm having a great time watching them!   

Cool!  :)

I bought myself the DVD set of Elizabeth R, with Glenda Jackson as the first Elizabeth, part of my ongoing program to convert my videotape collection to DVDs in the interest of saving space. While it has its issues here and there, it's still more historically accurate than the Elizabeth movies of recent years.

Next up, The Six Wives of Henry VIII.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 31, 2013, 12:11:21 PM

Mark, did you know that ONE of the 271 episodes is in color?
Do you know why?

(I wonder if they mention it on the dvd?)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on December 31, 2013, 04:28:30 PM
(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2014/gallery/old-hollywood-ny/lucille-ball-435.jpg)


HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on December 31, 2013, 04:29:49 PM
(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2014/gallery/old-hollywood-ny/mae-west-435.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on December 31, 2013, 04:30:33 PM
(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2014/gallery/old-hollywood-ny/bob-hope-435.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on December 31, 2013, 04:31:22 PM
(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2014/gallery/old-hollywood-ny/debbie-reynolds-435.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on December 31, 2013, 04:32:35 PM
(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2014/gallery/old-hollywood-ny/jayne-mansfield-435.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on December 31, 2013, 04:33:47 PM
(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2014/gallery/old-hollywood-ny/shirley-temple-435.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on January 07, 2014, 04:35:04 PM
Not sure how classic it is, but I watched an episode of Quantum Leap today at a ladies home, she has the dejavu station.   She loves the show, I have to say the episode wasn't bad.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096684/


(1989–1993)   I don't remember ever watching it.


Scott Bakula was a cutie!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on January 07, 2014, 07:26:50 PM
One of my favorite shows!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on January 07, 2014, 07:29:28 PM
Mine too!  I loved Scott Bakula and Dean Stockwell!  Both should have won Emmys.

A very entertaining series.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 08, 2014, 07:42:39 AM
Not sure how classic it is, but I watched an episode of Quantum Leap today at a ladies home, she has the dejavu station.   She loves the show, I have to say the episode wasn't bad.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096684/


(1989–1993)   I don't remember ever watching it.


Scott Bakula was a cutie!

I never watched it. I understand it had, or has, a cult following.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 08, 2014, 10:05:16 AM

I never watched it, either.

The "dejavu" station?

That's hilarious!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 08, 2014, 11:48:19 AM
I never watched it, either.

The "dejavu" station?

That's hilarious!

Makes more sense than "ME-TV."  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on January 08, 2014, 07:14:22 PM
Who loves LUCY??


http://www.buzzfeed.com/briangalindo/21-wonderful-behind-the-scenes-photos-of-i-love-lucy



Great pics!



Here is is Lyle:


http://www.dejaviewtv.ca/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on January 08, 2014, 07:18:47 PM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/briangalindo/25-rare-photos-of-i-love-lucy-in-color


These ones are great too, she actually was very pretty!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 10, 2014, 11:37:46 AM
About a week or so ago I stumbled on an episode of F Troop. It was in black and white, so I presume it was from the first season. Don Rickles was the guest star. He played an Indian named--what else?--Bald Eagle.  :D

I always thought Ken Berry was kind of cute as the inept captain commanding the fort.  :)

I wonder whatever happened to Melody Patterson (Wrangler Jane)? I can't recall that I've heard of her since the show went off the air.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 10, 2014, 05:27:08 PM
About a week or so ago I stumbled on an episode of F Troop. It was in black and white, so I presume it was from the first season. Don Rickles was the guest star. He played an Indian named--what else?--Bald Eagle.  :D

I always thought Ken Berry was kind of cute as the inept captain commanding the fort.  :)

I wonder whatever happened to Melody Patterson (Wrangler Jane)? I can't recall that I've heard of her since the show went off the air.



(http://knoji.com/images/user/williamfelchner/ftroopkenberryautograph-2f839490.jpg)


According to Wikipedia:


Melody Patterson (born April 16, 1949 in Inglewood, California) is an American actress best known for her role as Wrangler Jane in the 1960s TV series F Troop. She was 16 years old when she first appeared on the show.   Since the 1967 cancellation of F Troop, Patterson has worked in television, radio and the theater, and entertained troops in Vietnam.

Melody was married to the actor James MacArthur who is best known for the role of Dan "Danno" Williams in the TV series Hawaii Five-O. During their marriage, she had to put her career aside to move to Honolulu, Hawaii. During the next seven years she appeared in many episodes of Hawaii Five-O, and started modeling and making commercials. While living in Hawaii she found herself again on the stage in the Herb Rogers production of Butterflies are Free, with Barbara Rush and Dirk Benedict. After that she appeared in other plays such as House of Blue Leaves, for the University of Hawaii, and played the part of Peggy in The Front Page written by Charles MacArthur, and directed by her husband James MacArthur. Before leaving Hawaii, she played the title role in the Strindberg classic, Miss Julie, for the Honolulu Performing Arts Company
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on January 10, 2014, 07:40:09 PM
When I think of Ken Berry, I think of Mama's Family, which I use to love!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 15, 2014, 12:41:09 PM
According to Wikipedia:


Melody Patterson (born April 16, 1949 in Inglewood, California) is an American actress best known for her role as Wrangler Jane in the 1960s TV series F Troop. She was 16 years old when she first appeared on the show.   Since the 1967 cancellation of F Troop, Patterson has worked in television, radio and the theater, and entertained troops in Vietnam.

Melody was married to the actor James MacArthur who is best known for the role of Dan "Danno" Williams in the TV series Hawaii Five-O. During their marriage, she had to put her career aside to move to Honolulu, Hawaii. During the next seven years she appeared in many episodes of Hawaii Five-O, and started modeling and making commercials. While living in Hawaii she found herself again on the stage in the Herb Rogers production of Butterflies are Free, with Barbara Rush and Dirk Benedict. After that she appeared in other plays such as House of Blue Leaves, for the University of Hawaii, and played the part of Peggy in The Front Page written by Charles MacArthur, and directed by her husband James MacArthur. Before leaving Hawaii, she played the title role in the Strindberg classic, Miss Julie, for the Honolulu Performing Arts Company

That's interesting. Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 15, 2014, 05:21:10 PM
You're welcome!  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on January 16, 2014, 02:58:56 PM
(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2014/news/140127/russell-johnson-2300.jpg)



Russell Johnson, who played Professor Roy Hinkley on Gilligan's Island, has passed away at age 89.

The actor died of kidney failure Thursday at his home in Washington, surrounded by his wife Constance Dane and daughter Kim Johnson.

"He died at home, peaceful, in his sleep at 5:21 a.m. today," Dane told ABC News. "[He was] a very brave guy who knew what he wanted, and he wanted to be at home."

His death came quickly, says his agent Michael Eisentstadt.



"I spoke to him right before the holidays and he did an autograph job," says Eisentstadt. "He had just done that and he was fine."

Dawn Wells, who played Mary Ann on the show, posted a picture of herself, Johnson and Bob Denver, who played Gillian and died in 2005, to Facebook to express her grief.

"My 2 favorite people are now gone. The Professor [passed] away this morning. My heart is broken."


Johnson was born in Pennsylvania and joined the United States Army Air Forces after high school. He flew combat missions in World War II prior to pursuing an acting career. He appeared in several films and television shows throughout the 50s and early 60s, including Alfred Hitchcock Presents and The Twilight Zone, before landing the role on Gilligan's Island in 1964.

This year marks the 50th anniversary of the hit show about seven men and women stranded together on an island after their ship, the S.S. Minnow, wrecks during a storm.

Johnson continued to make appearances on television shows throughout the 70s, 80s and 90s, including roles on Lassie, Gunsmoke, The Jeffersons and Dynasty.




http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20776673,00.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on January 16, 2014, 03:37:46 PM
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2014/01/16/0116-partridge-family-dave-madden-1.jpg)


Dave Madden  -- who played "The Partridge Family's" aggravated band manager on the 1970s TV show -- has died after a long illness at age 82 ... TMZ has learned.

Madden played Reuben Kincaid on the show ... who was often bedeviled by the antics of the Partridge kids, particularly Danny, played by Danny Bonaduce.

Dave's former agent tells TMZ ... he died of congestive heart and kidney failure early this morning.

Madden also appeared on another popular 70s TV show, "Laugh-In" and was the author of a couple books, including a book of memoirs published in 2007.

We're told Madden died in Florida ... where he lived with his wife.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2014/01/16/dave-madden-dead-partridge-family-reuben-kincaid/#ixzz2qbUfUdD4
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 17, 2014, 07:25:51 AM
(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2014/news/140127/russell-johnson-2300.jpg)



Russell Johnson, who played Professor Roy Hinkley on Gilligan's Island, has passed away at age 89.

So I guess only Dawn Wells is left.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 17, 2014, 11:02:23 AM
So I guess only Dawn Wells is left.  :(
               (https://jaydeanhcr.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/tina-louise-yesterday.jpg?w=640)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 17, 2014, 11:07:29 AM

In the 80's when AIDS was new and scary and like Dalllas Buyer's Club etc., Russell Johnson's gay son
contracted it. Russell never hesitated to talk about his son, his disease and loved him so much and
worked for causes before and after he lost him. Kudos to you, Mr. Johnson.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 17, 2014, 11:42:17 AM
Lyle is right, both Ginger and Mary Ann are still alive.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 17, 2014, 11:43:44 AM
              (https://jaydeanhcr.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/tina-louise-yesterday.jpg?w=640)

I thought Tina Louise was dead. I'm glad to know she isn't.

I don't think I ever knew that "the Professor" had a name, or that he was actually a high school science teacher.

I always want to laugh when you see these people other places. Just the other night I saw "Mrs. Howell" in a small, one-scene supporting role in Anastasia.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on January 17, 2014, 01:02:56 PM
Five passengers (and one skipper and one first mate) set sail that day for a three-hour tour, but where are they now?

With the passing of "Professor" Russell Johnson Thursday, there are now two living cast members remaining of Gilligan's Island's original crew of seven — 75-year-old Dawn Wells, who played Mary Ann Summers, and 79-year-old Tina Louise, who played Ginger Grant.

Here's a look at what the cast did after the wildly popular 1960s show ended:



http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2014/01/16/gilligans-island-where-are-they-now/4534695/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 22, 2014, 04:23:39 PM
Because I had a holiday on Monday, and my office was closed today because of the declared snow emergency here in Philadelphia, I got to see two episodes of Daniel Boone on ME-TV (locally it runs at 9 a.m.). I don't know which season, or seasons, the episodes were from, but I thought it was funny that both episodes had Israel Boone's birthday as a plot point.  :D  In the Monday episode he turned 8 years old, and in today's episode he turned 9 years old.  :D

I could probably figure out which season or seasons these episodes were from by looking at the episode synopses on the shows fan web site.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on January 22, 2014, 04:54:27 PM
Anyone remember Captain and Tenile?   Boy I miss a good variety show.



Toni Tennille, whose real name is Cathryn Antoinette Tennille, 73, filed for divorce on Jan. 16, the Prescott, Arizona City courthouse confirms to PEOPLE.

Daryl Dragon, 71, also known as the Captain, was a keyboard player for the Beach Boys before meeting his wife. They released their first album in 1974, winning a Grammy the following year.

Tennille revealed on her blog in 2010 that Dragon was suffering from a neurological condition similar to Parkinsons that causes him to have tremors, which she said were "pretty severe at times" and interfered with his ability to play the keyboard.

The couple have no children. RumorFix was the first to report the couple's divorce.


http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20778840,00.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 22, 2014, 07:07:12 PM
Anyone remember Captain and Tenile?   Boy I miss a good variety show.

You bet! And I remember a bit of a scandal when they sang Muskrat Love at a dinner for Queen Elizabeth II.  ;D

Quote
Toni Tennille, whose real name is Cathryn Antoinette Tennille, 73, filed for divorce on Jan. 16, the Prescott, Arizona City courthouse confirms to PEOPLE.

Daryl Dragon, 71, also known as the Captain, was a keyboard player for the Beach Boys before meeting his wife. They released their first album in 1974, winning a Grammy the following year.

Tennille revealed on her blog in 2010 that Dragon was suffering from a neurological condition similar to Parkinsons that causes him to have tremors, which she said were "pretty severe at times" and interfered with his ability to play the keyboard.

The couple have no children. RumorFix was the first to report the couple's divorce.


http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20778840,00.html

I'm sorry to hear of their misfortunes.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 25, 2014, 11:09:06 AM

BATMAN -- The 1966 series is one of the most, if not the most, requested series to be available
on any home viewing format and for years has been the subject of so much legal entanglements over who
exactly owns the rights to the show that there have been numerous articles written about it.  (The rights stem
from use of the comic characters, the studios, the batmobile, the music and so many issues that it was thought
NEVER to see the light of day.) Then out of the blue this week comes an announcement:

Batman - POW! BAM! SOCKO! the Word We've All Waited For!
Warner Home Video confirms that the classic '60s series is coming out THIS YEAR!!
Posted by David Lambert

http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Batman-DVDs-Planned/19353

If you're interested in how complicated this rights issue really is/was, here's an article
on the same website about it from 2008:

http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Batman-Watchmen-Batman-Deal-Reported/10573
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 28, 2014, 12:28:21 PM

I've been watching the Alfred Hitchcock Hour on Me-TV the past couple months and there's been
some fascinating episodes and many guest actors that peak one's interest.

A couple nights ago they aired an episode titled "Memo from Purgatory." It was written by
the noted scribe Harlan Ellison and says was based on a book he wrote.

The plot concerned an aspiring writer who arrives in New York and he wants to make a name for
himself by going undercover and becoming part of a gang and then write about what makes these
people tick and such.  So, first, he has to become "one of them" and then initiated into this gang,
which was called "The Barons" in this episode.

Why I singled this episode out for attention is that there's a development in the story that propels
it in a different direction and this development is an accusation by the "writer" that the leader of
the gang (Tiger) is gay.

Now, all of this is done in 1964 terms, so the wording is not explicit and mentioned only once.
In the story, the author is initiated into the gang, but he alienates a couple of the gang members
along the way. They break into his apartment room at one point to trash it and they discover the
stuff he's been writing and that he's not who he's pretending to be.  A mock trial is set up with the
gang leader presiding (Tiger) and Tiger's sentence is to send him out of town on a rail, so to speak.
This doesn't go over well with the previously offended gang members who ask if Tiger's going to
let him get away like that, even after what he wrote about him. They proceed to read what he
wrote about Tiger and his observations that from all the evidence he's seen, Tiger doesn't like
women, basically.  Well, that obviously doesn't set well with Tiger and sets the story in a harmful
direction for the writer.  You can't out or call someone gay in that setting and get away with it.

You rarely see anything like this subject even hinted at in shows of this period so it was of great
interest. You can read things, sometimes, into a relationship or a line reading, that may or may not
really be there, but this was about as explicit as one could get back then.  And, of course, it was
decidedly something negative related to juvenile delinquency.

I also must say, the gang members of the early 60's in shows and movies like this are decidedly
so tame compared to what you'd see on TV nowadays.  In some ways so comical, too. Rarely
a gun is seen.  Only knives.  And drug use might be hinted at but never shown. In fact, smoking
is about the worst habit you'd actually see of the teen delinquents and I don't even think they
did that in this episode.  Like West Side Story, their hangout was a malt shop of sorts. It was
more the attitude of violence that was shown and that still can be pretty effective.

To think about the episode in a different way, consider this was aired one year later than the
opening events of Brokeback Mountain.

Below is a still I found online from the episode. The offended blond gang member on the left
is an actor named Chuck Courtney. The would be writer was played by James Caan and Tiger,
the gang leader, was played by Walter Koenig, one year shy of his Star Trek fame!

(http://claytonmoore.tripod.com/memo08.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 28, 2014, 12:35:45 PM

It is interesting watching shows like this because actors like James Caan appear who are still working
fifty years later!  Robert Redford was in two episodes, one I missed, Bruce Dern was also in two episodes
I saw recently and he plays weird off-beat characters in both of them. Watching shows like this also gives
the lie that the major movie actors looked down on TV and didn't want to be associated with it as stars galore
from the silver screen pop up frequently. Gloria Swanson, for example, was in a recent one. Although, maybe
they looked down on it, but they did it anyway, either for the money or just to work. In any case, it's nice to
come across them in guest starring roles. It adds spice.  Tab Hunter and Sal Mineo were both in Combat episodes
I viewed.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 28, 2014, 01:46:23 PM
It is interesting watching shows like this because actors like James Caan appear who are still working
fifty years later!  Robert Redford was in two episodes, one I missed, Bruce Dern was also in two episodes
I saw recently and he plays weird off-beat characters in both of them. Watching shows like this also gives
the lie that the major movie actors looked down on TV and didn't want to be associated with it as stars galore
from the silver screen pop up frequently. Gloria Swanson, for example, was in a recent one. Although, maybe
they looked down on it, but they did it anyway, either for the money or just to work. In any case, it's nice to
come across them in guest starring roles. It adds spice.  Tab Hunter and Sal Mineo were both in Combat episodes
I viewed.

Dennis Hopper played a "beatnik" poet in a first-season episode of Petticoat Junction. (Bobbie Jo, the bookish middle Bradley sister, had a crush on him.)

And of course there was the episode of The Beverly Hillbillies where the Clampetts wanted to make a silent movie starring Gloria Swanson, who appeared. 

And I believe it's been discussed before how major figures such as Charles Laughton and Bette Davis appeared in episodes of Wagon Train.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 28, 2014, 02:50:11 PM

Barbara Stanwyck did lots of TV besides her series.
She appeared as herself with Walter Brennan in The Real McCoys.
I know she also did two episodes of The Untouchables.

Bette Davis was also on an episode of Alfred Hitchcock Presents.
And Gunsmoke. And Perry Mason.

***

I looked up a few more:  The Virginian, The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour (3 times), The
Hollywood Palace (once with Joan Crawford), Andy Williams Show and It Takes a Thief.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 28, 2014, 04:46:41 PM
I looked up a few more:  The Virginian, The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour (3 times), The
Hollywood Palace (once with Joan Crawford), Andy Williams Show and It Takes a Thief.

Who? Bette Davis or Barbara Stanwyck?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 29, 2014, 08:46:38 AM

Miss Bette Davis!

She also did a lot of anthology shows and talk/chat shows.
And later on, TV movies, none of which I really thought were good.
Hepburn did some really good ones, but Davis's were rather mundane,
IMO, although I can't say I've seen all of them.

Speaking of Joan Crawford, the only two series I can think of off-hand that
she did, besides that Hollywood Palace with Bette, was The Lucy Show where
she played herself and an episode of The Man from U.N.C.L.E. and, oh yeah,
that Night Gallery episode famously directed by Spielberg.  So there's probably
more.


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on February 01, 2014, 04:17:10 PM
Was at a clients today and I guess Saturday's are western day.......we watched Rifle Man with Chuck Connors.  It was good!  :D


And what a long tall cool drink of water he is!! ;D



(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/0b/5b/28/0b5b2856217af3810a316e7304cba5bb.jpg)



And that kid is just too cute!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on February 02, 2014, 04:24:53 PM
i had some very perverted personal subplots about that relationship.  the addendum is that at the time i was only a little bit older than the boy.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 03, 2014, 07:59:41 AM
Was at a clients today and I guess Saturday's are western day.......we watched Rifle Man with Chuck Connors.  It was good!  :D


And what a long tall cool drink of water he is!! ;D



(http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/0b/5b/28/0b5b2856217af3810a316e7304cba5bb.jpg)



And that kid is just too cute!

Johnny Crawford does commercials for ME-TV, which shows The Rifleman in this area. That cute kid grew up to be an attractive man, and he's still an attractive man.  :)  He will be 68 years old next month, and he speaks very highly of Chuck Connors.

At one time he was a professional rodeo cowboy, too. Apparently he could afford a ropin' horse.  :D

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0186844/?ref_=nv_sr_1 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0186844/?ref_=nv_sr_1)

And Chuck Connors was great as Lucas McCain.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 03, 2014, 12:22:11 PM

I met Johnny Crawford in the 80's.  He was singing and playing guitar in a club. Since I had
never been exposed to the Rifleman tv series, at least not much, growing up I  did not know
who he was until afterwards.

As for Chuck Connors, he was also on the 1/2 hour Western "Branded" which I did see and Me-TV
was airing on weekends up until several months ago. Am I correct that he nearly/or was an MLB baseball
player? My favorite thing is once he was on Laugh-In, in western gear, and did a joke with Alan Sues
which fell flat, so Alan Sues looks at him and then at the camera and says. "Big. But dumb." Connors
cracked up.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on February 03, 2014, 03:39:30 PM
 :D  That's funny!


I do remember Chuck from ROOTS, he played that nasty slave owner (is there any other kind??)   I will keep the Rifleman imagine in my mind now, much nicer.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 03, 2014, 04:24:53 PM
As for Chuck Connors, he was also on the 1/2 hour Western "Branded" which I did see and Me-TV
was airing on weekends up until several months ago. Am I correct that he nearly/or was an MLB baseball
player?

I'd have to check the run dates for The Rifleman, but it seems to me I was a pretty young child when it was in first-run; what I did see of it may have been syndicated re-runs. Heck, I was a kid when Branded was in first run, but I remember watching it. My memory is that it aired Sunday evenings after the Disney program, but I could be wrong about that. I don't know about the baseball thing. It might be in Connors' bio at IMDb.

I remember Connors in Roots, too. He was versatile.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on February 03, 2014, 06:45:58 PM
I'd have to check the run dates for The Rifleman, but it seems to me I was a pretty young child when it was in first-run; what I did see of it may have been syndicated re-runs. Heck, I was a kid when Branded was in first run, but I remember watching it. My memory is that it aired Sunday evenings after the Disney program, but I could be wrong about that. I don't know about the baseball thing. It might be in Connors' bio at IMDb.

I remember Connors in Roots, too. He was versatile.  :)

He played center for the Boston Celtics in the 1946-47 season but left early for spring training with the Brooklyn Dodgers. Baseball had always been his first love, and for the next several years he knocked about the minor leagues in such places as Rochester (NY), Norfolk (VA), Newark (NJ), Newport News (VA), Mobile (AL) and Montreal, Canada. He finally reached his goal, playing for the Brooklyn Dodgers, in May 1949, but after just five weeks and one at-bat he returned to Montreal. After a brief stint with the Chicago Cubs in 1951, during which he hit two home runs, Chuck wound up with the Cubs' Triple-A farm team, the L.A. Angels, in 1952.

Chuck Connors died at age 71 of lung cancer and pneumonia on November 10, 1992 in Los Angeles, California. He is buried in San Fernando Mission Cemetery with his tombstone carrying a photo of Connors as Lucas McCain in "The Rifleman" as well as logos from the three professional sports teams he played for: the Dodgers, Cubs and Celtics.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 16, 2014, 12:36:08 PM
Last night (2/15/14) I saw two episodes of Maverick on COZI-TV. Now there was some good TV for you!  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on February 16, 2014, 05:00:11 PM
Good night Papa Walton!   :'(


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2559111/Waltons-patriarch-Ralph-Waite-dies-85.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 17, 2014, 08:46:23 AM
Well, that was pretty funny! This morning I caught an episode of The Lone Ranger, and there was Andy Griffith's Aunt Bea--Francis Bavier--as the matriarch of a family of robbers!  :D

Edit to Add:

Later I saw an episode of The Roy Rogers Show. I'd never seen an episode of The Roy Rogers Show before; what an odd mixture of the Old West and the 20th century!

What was notable to me about this episode was a couple of mentions of ... Riverton!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 17, 2014, 11:19:44 AM

The Roy Rogers Show was a vague memory somewhere, can't say I really remember it.
And I'm not sure the circumstances of it now, but by some fluke in the late 80's I actually
saw Roy Rogers and Dale Evans somewhere. Their popularity hasn't lasted in the public
realm, really, but they were huge celebrities back in the day. Am I correct that they were
also known as really great/nice people?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on February 17, 2014, 01:38:51 PM
They did have a reputation, deserved, of being good people. Conservative and prowar during the Vietnam era, not unusual for the time. It's a shame that their fame has vanished though. I'm glad I got to visit their museum in Victorville CA before it relocated to Branson MO. The latter museum has closed and the collection scattered. I believe the family insisted on keeping the stuffed remains of Trigger, and maybe Bullit.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on February 17, 2014, 01:46:33 PM
Some of their collection is at the Autry, Fritz.

They were very good people. Rogers and Evans were also well known as advocates for adoption and as founders and operators of children's charities. Even though they had natural children, they adopted several children. Both were outspoken Christians. In Apple Valley, California, where they made their home, numerous streets and highways as well as civic buildings have been named after them in recognition of their efforts on behalf of homeless and handicapped children. Rogers was an active Freemason and a Shriner, and was noted for his support of their charities.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 17, 2014, 02:10:30 PM
Since I saw those episodes of The Lone Ranger and Roy Rogers this morning, I've been thinking that it's interesting to me that "back then" the people who made shows like those two--not the actors but the writers, producers, directors, whoever--were able to tell a perfectly coherent and complete action-adventure-drama story in just half an hour--and I presume there were commercial breaks "back then," too, so it was really less than half an hour!

Linda, now that you mention it, I remember Roy and Dale being advocates for children's charities.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on February 17, 2014, 05:11:20 PM
Some of their collection is at the Autry, Fritz.

They were very good people. Rogers and Evans were also well known as advocates for adoption and as founders and operators of children's charities. Even though they had natural children, they adopted several children. Both were outspoken Christians. In Apple Valley, California, where they made their home, numerous streets and highways as well as civic buildings have been named after them in recognition of their efforts on behalf of homeless and handicapped children. Rogers was an active Freemason and a Shriner, and was noted for his support of their charities.

Glad to hear that some of their pieces are still available to the public. Thanks, Linda!

There was a sort of rivalry between Roy Rogers and Gene Autry on Saturday morning TV, at least on the part of the marketers. Seems that in the long run Autry won.

I remember meeting a man from the French-speaking part of Louisiana back in the late 60's, his name was Autry Dominique. His wife had a distant relative visiting from Germany, and I was helping to translate for them.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on February 17, 2014, 07:31:15 PM
I have been watching a lot of The Lawrence Welk Show. It's shown pretty regularly on the PBS stations, but I am watching a lot of the earlier episodes on YouTube.

He had a local show in LA starting in 1951 and ABC picked up his show and was on the air from 1955 to 1982.

A clip from his premier show, 07/02/1955.

http://youtu.be/qzL4t7E-ZNw

Here`s the opening number from the very last concert with Lawrence and the band together! (1982)

http://youtu.be/siqOqits21E

If you want to watch the whole show, here is PBS restored episode of his first ABC network premier, 07/02/1955. (I was 3 yo)

http://youtu.be/q8XGAtm1xXA
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 18, 2014, 07:30:01 AM
I have been watching a lot of The Lawrence Welk Show. It's shown pretty regularly on the PBS stations, but I am watching a lot of the earlier episodes on YouTube.

He had a local show in LA starting in 1951 and ABC picked up his show and was on the air from 1955 to 1982.

A clip from his premier show, 07/02/1955.

http://youtu.be/qzL4t7E-ZNw

Here`s the opening number from the very last concert with Lawrence and the band together! (1982)

http://youtu.be/siqOqits21E

If you want to watch the whole show, here is PBS restored episode of his first ABC network premier, 07/02/1955. (I was 3 yo)

http://youtu.be/q8XGAtm1xXA

Our local PBS station runs it at 7 p.m. on Saturdays. I'm usually watching it over dinner. Last Saturday they ran a show from 1958. It featured the Champagne Lady who came before Norma Zimmer.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on February 18, 2014, 01:44:35 PM
Mary Grace Canfield, a veteran character actress who played handywoman Ralph Monroe on the television show "Green Acres," has died. She was 89.

Her daughter, Phoebe Alexiades, says Canfield died of lung cancer on Saturday at a hospice in the California coastal town of Santa Barbara.

Canfield had appearances on a number of TV shows during a four-decade career, including General Hospital and The Hathaways.

She was Harriet Kravitz on four episodes of the 1960s series Bewitched.

But she was best known for her role of Ralph Monroe in some 40 episodes of "Green Acres," which ran from 1965 to 1971 and starred Eddie Albert and Eva Gabor.

Monroe greeted folks in the town of Hootersville with a cheery "howdy doody," wore painters' overalls and was forever working on the Douglas family's bedroom with her brother, Alf (Sid Melton).


http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20787966,00.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 18, 2014, 04:39:08 PM
Mary Grace Canfield, a veteran character actress who played handywoman Ralph Monroe on the television show "Green Acres," has died. She was 89.

I remember her well. I'm sorry to hear she's gone.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on February 18, 2014, 10:16:39 PM
Our local PBS station runs it at 7 p.m. on Saturdays. I'm usually watching it over dinner. Last Saturday they ran a show from 1958. It featured the Champagne Lady who came before Norma Zimmer.
Yeah, that first episode showed the previous Champagne Lady. His first Champagne Lady was Jayne Walton Rosen (real name: Dorothy Jayne Flanagan). Jayne left Welk's show after her marriage and later pregnancy.
Norma Zimmer became the Champagne Lady on New Year's Eve, 1960.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on February 19, 2014, 02:57:31 AM
i remember the rivalry between gene autry and roy rogers well, it played out on my tv and on the movie screens.  autry had the better singing voice, although roy was tolerable, but to my as yet unshaped gay mind, roy was the more handsome, right up there with guy madison.  a while back, maybe a decade, i think the country powers to be missed an opportunity not coming up with a movie featuring both starring garth brooks and clint black, in the right clothes and lights dead ringers for autry and rogers.  pretty much too late now, but i did think it was a good idea.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 19, 2014, 07:40:56 AM
i remember the rivalry between gene autry and roy rogers well, it played out on my tv and on the movie screens.  autry had the better singing voice, although roy was tolerable, but to my as yet unshaped gay mind, roy was the more handsome, right up there with guy madison.  a while back, maybe a decade, i think the country powers to be missed an opportunity not coming up with a movie featuring both starring garth brooks and clint black, in the right clothes and lights dead ringers for autry and rogers.  pretty much too late now, but i did think it was a good idea.

I would agree with that.

I did some reading yesterday and confirmed my memory that Roy and Dale had had a child with Down syndrome, but I hadn't remembered that she had died that young.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on February 27, 2014, 11:54:14 AM
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Jim Lange, the first host of the popular game show The Dating Game, has died at his home in Mill Valley, Calif. He was 81.


He died Tuesday morning after suffering a heart attack, his wife Nancy told the Associated Press Wednesday.

Though Lange had a successful career in radio, he is best known for his television role on ABC's The Dating Game, which debuted in 1965 and on which he appeared for more than a decade, playing host to many celebrity guests. Michael Jackson, Steve Martin and Arnold Schwarzenegger, among others, appeared as contestants.

Even a pre-Charlie's Angels Farrah Fawcett appeared on the program, introduced as "an accomplished artist and sculptress" with a dream to open her own gallery.

The show's format: a young man or woman questions three members of the opposite sex, hidden from her view, to determine which one would be the best date.

The questions were designed by the show's writers to elicit sexy answers.

"I've never been out on a date before. What do two kids like us do on a date?" a teenage Michael Jackson asked one of his potential dates on a 1972 episode of the show.


"Well, we'd have fun," the girl answered. "We'd go out to dinner, and then I'd go over to your house."

Lange was born on Aug. 15, 1932, in St. Paul, Minn., where as a young man he discovered a passion for local radio. He worked as a disc jockey for decades, and upon his retirement from broadcasting in 2005, he was the morning DJ for KABL-FM in the San Francisco Bay Area, which specializes in playing classics from the Big Band era to the 1970s.




"As much as he's known for his television work, his real love was radio," his wife said. "He loved doing local radio, especially before it was computerized."

Lange is survived by a sister, five children, two stepchildren and four grandchildren.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 27, 2014, 12:20:18 PM
Even a pre-Charlie's Angels Farrah Fawcett appeared on the program, introduced as "an accomplished artist and sculptress" with a dream to open her own gallery.

I understand Tom Selleck was one of the "bachelors." He didn't get picked.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on February 28, 2014, 05:50:13 PM
He is a handsome man and getting better with age actually........but I wouldn't have picked him!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 06, 2014, 11:47:52 AM
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Geoff Edwards, the hip-looking 1970s and '80s host of TV game shows including Jackpot! and two incarnations of Treasure Hunt, died Wednesday, his agent said. He was 83.

Edwards died of complications of pneumonia at St. John's hospital in Santa Monica, agent Fred Westbrook said.

Edwards also worked as a radio DJ and actor, appearing on TV shows including Petticoat Junction, 'I Dream of Jeannie and Diff'rent Strokes.

"Geoff was one of the cleverest, funniest radio and television personalities I've worked with," said fellow game show host Wink Martindale. The two were deejays at pop radio station KMPC in Los Angeles.

Edwards, a native of Westfield, N.J., hosted The New Treasure Hunt, a revival of a 1950s quiz show, from 1973 to 1977 and hosted Treasure Hunt in 1981-82. He also emceed the 1980s game show Jackpot! and appeared on other shows including Starcade.

Westbrook said his longtime client made a splash on TV by shedding the conservative look worn by his peers.

His hair was longer, he never wore a tie, and he favored jeans over suits, Westbrook said. "He was part of the new breed."

Edwards had been in good health, his agent said. In recent years, he wrote about travel on his website and did radio and TV programs on the subject.




He is survived by his wife, Michael, and stepsons Justin and Jason Feffer, Westbrook said. His survivors also include his ex-wife, Suzanne, and their children Todd, Shawn and Chess, as well as nine grandchildren.

Funeral plans were pending, Westbrook said.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 09, 2014, 02:18:41 PM
I knew her best as Alice on the "Honeymooners" segments of Jackie Gleason's variety show.

Ninety-two is a good age.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 09, 2014, 02:37:41 PM
It certainly is, we should all be so lucky!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 21, 2014, 05:06:37 PM
Maybe I'll break out one of these DVDs tonight.



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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 23, 2014, 10:39:41 AM
where's krypto?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 23, 2014, 02:11:02 PM
Ha, Krypto was part of the Superman story, but not part of Super Friends.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 23, 2014, 02:56:52 PM
Maybe I'll break out one of these DVDs tonight.



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So, whose got better legs, Robin or Wonder Woman?  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: AshesOnBrokeback on March 23, 2014, 04:14:05 PM
If Robin wasn't a boy toy, then I don't know what is...:D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 30, 2014, 11:34:03 AM
British actress Kate O'Mara, best known for her role on the 1980s soap opera Dynasty, died Sunday at the age of 74, her agent said.

Phil Belfield said O'Mara died in a nursing home in southern England after a short illness.

The actress, who began her television career in the 1960s, became a household name for playing Cassandra "Caress" Morrell, sister to Joan Collins' Alexis Colby, on Dynasty.

In Britain she is often remembered for her role in Triangle – a soap opera set aboard a North Sea ferry that is often cited as the worst piece of British television.

She also appeared in the original run of British series Doctor Who and BBC drama Howards' Way. In the 1990s she starred in the comedy show Absolutely Fabulous with Joanna Lumley.

More recently she appeared in a 2012 stage adaptation of Agatha Christie's Death on the Nile.

She is survived by her sister, actress Belinda Carroll.


http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20801595,00.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 31, 2014, 02:47:15 AM
i recently discovered a british,i think, tv series called STAR MAIDENS, the gist of which is that a pair of subjugated males escape from a planet in which the women rule and the men are relegated to concubines and menials, manage, despite their limited male thinking, to land on earth, with two of the dominant women in hot pursuit.  shenanigans ensue on both planets.  it is hysterically dated, utterly sexist if not misogynistic, playing the role reversal to the hilt   i'm quite sure the importance of male equality will be demonstrated as these female oligarchs and military go all weak in the knees for their men.  its on youtube, and you can search it by name.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 04, 2014, 07:59:21 PM
Well, I decided to break out my DVDs and watch a few episodes of Charmed tonight.  Haven't seen it in a while, and it was one of the WB's more successful shows, running from 1998 - 2006.

For those who don't know the show, Charmed was the story of three sisters:  Prue (oldest), Piper (middle) and Phoebe (youngest) moving into their grandmother's house after her death.  Phoebe discovers a chest with a large book in it, the Book of Shadows.  Reading the first page aloud, Phoebe unwittingly unleashes their powers, making them The Charmed Ones, witches who are destined to protect innocents from evil.  


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Witch Trial -  On their 1st anniversary, the demon Abraxas steals the sisters' Book of Shadows.  While in his possession, he starts to read it backwards, saying the spells backwards.  This 'erases' them from the book, cancelling them out and restoring the demons the spells vanquished.   If he gets to the beginning of the book, and undoes the first spell, it will erase the sisters' powers.



Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 04, 2014, 08:04:57 PM
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We All Scream For Ice Cream - Prue has a tune stuck in her head, and she can't figure out what it is.   She and Phoebe later hear a child humming the tune, and see an ice-cream truck driving by.  Realizing it's the middle of winter, Prue and Phoebe investigate, and see the child being sucked into the window of the truck.  When they try to help, they get caught in the truck, which has a strange, winter-like world inside of it, and a number of trapped kids.  They rescue the kids, only to find out afterwards that they are actually demons.  The Charmed Ones then need to track down the missing truck to recapture the demon kids.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 04, 2014, 08:16:14 PM
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Blinded By The White Lighter -  All witches have White Lighters, special guardian angels, who protect them and heal their battle wounds.  Piper us currently breaking the rules by having a relationship with her White Lighter, Leo.  While this is happening, the warlock Eames has successfully killed three witches, absorbing their powers in the process.  Fearing that Leo is no longer able to guide the sisters due to his relationship with Piper, he is removed, and replaced with his friend, Natalie, who is much more regimented in her style.  The stakes get higher when Eames kills a Dark Lighter, and steals his weapon, a crossbow.  The Charmed Ones then realize Eames intends to use the weapon to kill all White Lighters, which would leave witches defenseless.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 04, 2014, 08:24:58 PM
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All Hell Breaks Loose - The Demon Shax shows up at the Halliwell house to kill an innocent.  The battle moves outside, and Piper vanquishes him.  What she doesn't know is that she is filmed by a news crew, and the Halliwell sisters are exposed as witches.  The furor around their house continues to grow, with news crews, friends and crazed wiccan fans showing up.   Phoebe, looking for help, goes to the Underworld to a demon who loves her.  While Phoebe is down there, Piper is shot and Prue rushes her to the hospital, where she dies.  The demon Phoebe met up with makes a deal with her, saying he can turn back time if she agrees to stay in the underworld with him, which would save Piper.  She agrees, and the time reversal happens.  This time, however, when the demon Shax shows up, he confronts and kills Prue instead.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 04, 2014, 08:35:46 PM
At the end of season 3 (the episode above) it was revealed that Shannen Dougherty (Prue) was leaving the show, the rumor was she was constantly fighting with Alyssa Milano (Phoebe) and told producers "It's her or me" and they kept Alyssa.  This however, caused a problem because the center of the show was that the sisters had "the power of three", which made their magics so powerful. 


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Charmed Again -  This episode continues the story from the episode above, and starts with Piper and Phoebe planning Prue's funeral.  They are still witches, but no longer "The Charmed Ones".  Looking for answers, Piper contacts the spirit of her grandmother, who tells her 'her destiny still awaites'.  They later find out that the side of evil believe that the 'power of three' can be reconstituted.  Piper & Phoebe contact the spirit of their grandmother, and their mother's spirit shows up as well, and reveal a family secret.

Long before Piper fell for Leo, their mother fell in love with her White Lighter (Andy), and the relationship resulted in a pregnancy.  Afraid that her children would not receive their powers if the pregnancy was discovered, the newborn was placed for adoption, and given the name Paige.

Phoebe gets a premonition of an innocent in danger from Shax, and it turns out the innocent is Paige.  When Piper & Phoebe meet her, it reforms the 'power of three', and Paige helps them vanquish Shax.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bentgyro on April 05, 2014, 04:37:21 PM
I used to watched charmed from time to time......thanx for the memories. :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 05, 2014, 06:42:32 PM
i recently discovered a british,i think, tv series called STAR MAIDENS, the gist of which is that a pair of subjugated males escape from a planet in which the women rule and the men are relegated to concubines and menials, manage, despite their limited male thinking, to land on earth, with two of the dominant women in hot pursuit.  shenanigans ensue on both planets.  it is hysterically dated, utterly sexist if not misogynistic, playing the role reversal to the hilt   i'm quite sure the importance of male equality will be demonstrated as these female oligarchs and military go all weak in the knees for their men.  its on youtube, and you can search it by name.


 :D :D


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I had to go look that up, that might make a neat Christmas gift for someone!



Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 05, 2014, 07:15:52 PM
Anyone remember Who's the Boss?


Danny Pintauro is now a married man.

The star of the popular '80s sitcom "Who's the Boss?", married his partner Wil Tabares on Thursday at a sunset beach ceremony in Dana Point, California.

The couple, who reside together in Las Vegas, got engaged in April 2013 after being together for a year. Pintauro, who came out as gay in 1997, reportedly works now as a restaurant manager. Wil works as an entertainer and casino employee at the Cosmopolitan hotel.

"Everything went off without a hitch," Pintauro, 38, tells Us Weekly. "The wedding was terrific and everyone was so happy to be there. We had fun! ... We went into it with no stress or worries or cares, except to have a good time."


pictures inside:


https://ca.celebrity.yahoo.com/blogs/celebrity-news/-who-s-the-boss---star-danny-pintauro-marries-wil-tabares-184055666.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 05, 2014, 07:42:09 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 07, 2014, 12:03:11 PM

Anyone remember this short-lived TV series from 1975?

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It's coming out on DVD. It's on 4 discs so there's probably 12-16 episodes. I vaguely remember it.
I've always liked Doug McClure so I believe I tried to watch it, but no vcr's in 1975, and it was on
Monday nights (in my memory), and I was in college. (Imagine if the kids nowadays went to college
and didn't have access to computers, or phones in their rooms, or most had no TV's? In 1975 anyone
was lucky if they had a typewriter!)

LOL, from my elders, when I was growing up, it was "I had to walk five miles to get to school in the snow," etc.
and the children's elders nowadays are "When I went to school we had no TV's or phones or computers." Wonder
what the current generation will be saying to their children?

A guess:  "When I was in college we actually had to leave the house and go somewhere."

Anyway, I wouldn't mind watching this DVD, but I probably won't go out of my way to find it, either.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 07, 2014, 12:28:00 PM

I looked up a bit about this series. Seems there was either a Pilot for the Series or a TV-movie
that turned into the series.  That aired in May of 1975. In the pilot Doug McClure was absent
and his part, or a different character, was played by Dennis Cole. Dennis Cole was a blond hunk
who appeared in dozens of series in the 60's and 70's and was given oh-so-many vehicles for
his own series, but none of them ever took. (One was called The Stutz Bearcats.) I believe he
had a small role in the Bracken's World two-season tv series as well, a behind the scenes series
about actors trying to make it big at a Hollywood Studio. I used to watch that nd would like to
see what that would be like now!

The Barbary Coast series aired 13 episodes. The info I read about the DVD release doesn't
indicate if the pilot will be included, often they are not because they are shot under different
agreements and often with different producers or studios. It took 17 years to get the original
Twin Peaks pilot included with the episode releases!

Bill Bixby also had a role in the Barbary Coast pilot and directed at least one of the episodes.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 07, 2014, 01:20:03 PM
I vaguely remember the title, Barbary Coast. I also remember Bearcats, because it also starred that other hunk Rod Taylor. Dennis Cole was definitely a hottie.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 07, 2014, 03:31:11 PM
Anyone remember this short-lived TV series from 1975?

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Anyway, I wouldn't mind watching this DVD, but I probably won't go out of my way to find it, either.


Ditto!  Look at William Shatner!!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 07, 2014, 05:38:11 PM
never heard of it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 14, 2014, 11:18:10 AM

Bewitched was mentioned recently in another thread and I was wondering if anyone
remembers the spin-off they did in 1977 called Tabitha? Not that it's
classic, or anything!

Whereas the original has a timeless quality about it, the spin-off is strictly stuck in
the 1970's. I had never seen it before so a few years ago I bought the dvd, witch
contains all twelve episodes.

It starred Lisa Hartman as Tabitha working in a local L.A. television newsroom and her brother
Adam, played by the appealing David Ankrum. In this series, Adam was like Darrin, in that he
didn't want Tabitha to use her powers at all. Why? Who knows? Whereas that was a kind of
early 60's theme of a husband wanting the wife to be "a happy homemaker," it seemed so
out of date by 1977. And her brother wasn't her wife, either.

Robert Urich played her sexist co-worker and she had a guardian witch played by Karen Morrow,
named Aunt Minerva. She says she was always there for Tabitha even though we never saw her in
the original series!

The plots of these episodes were painful. There were even some cameos from original
Bewitched cast members, Dr. Bombay, the Kravtiz's (on vacation?) and the guy who
played the drunk man several times in Bewitched.

But, the gem on this dvd is that they included the original pilot they made for the series.
If they had gone in this direction, the show might've lasted. The original pilot starred an
actress named Liberty Williams and her brother was played by Bruce Kimmel. This pilot
took place in San Francisco and it lent a much needed air of "magic" that the humdrum
newsroom air of the actual series did not.

Tabitha's brother Adam, in this pilot, also had magical powers. The episode had a delightful tone
the series itself never equaled. For reasons I'm not privy to, they obviously didn't like this pilot.
Was it the actress, whom I thought was perfect? Did they want it to be more contemporary (a
working woman in L.A.?) or did they want to save money not shooting it in San Francisco? Did
they not like Adam having powers, too? (Would've surely opened up a lot more storylines!) Who
knows? Maybe it wouldn't have worked that way, either, but I bet the episodes would've been
a whole lot better than the 12 they did do.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on April 14, 2014, 11:39:12 AM
I hated TABATHA, Lyle.  You're right; the pilot was light years better and they should gone with those stars, let Adam have magical powers, etc.  The regular series was painful to watch, except for the ALWAYS watchable Robert Urich!   ;)  


(The original pilot is on YouTube.  Liberty Williams is appealing, and while no Robert Urich, Bruce Kimmel and Archie Hahn are kind of cute in their own ways.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 14, 2014, 03:06:36 PM

Thanks, Mark, I did not know the pilot was on youtube!
Maybe some members will check it out!

I was always wondering if a spin-off series with Uncle Arthur (Paul Lynde) would've worked.
Although I don't know what the premise would've been. One of the Bewitched writers, Ruth
Brooks Flippen, says the writers always understood the Uncle Arthur character was gay. (That
doesn't explain the last Uncle Arthur episode, then, that had him infatuated with another
woman who did not like his playing jokes and tricks. Although that might've been a premise
for a series; trying not to do tricks, jokes, pranks and such, instead of magic, because his
girlfriend/wife doesn't like it. Obviously, there's no way they were going to have a gay lead
character at that time.)

Supposedly, Paul Lynde's one season tv series is very popular on the undergrond market if one can find it.
It truly was abominable from what I remember, though. I was in college without a tv, so I only saw a few.
Still, an occasional new Paul Lynde treat would be nice!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 14, 2014, 05:51:20 PM
Bewitched was mentioned recently in another thread and I was wondering if anyone
remembers the spin-off they did in 1977 called Tabitha? Not that it's
classic, or anything!

I was in college then and not seeing much of anything on TV. I remember that there was a series centered on Tabitha, but, apparently blessedly, I missed it.

Quote
Whereas the original has a timeless quality about it, the spin-off is strictly stuck in
the 1970's. I had never seen it before so a few years ago I bought the dvd, witch
contains all twelve episodes.

Nice pun, Lyle.  :D

Quote
It starred Lisa Hartman as Tabitha working in a local L.A. television newsroom and her brother
Adam, played by the appealing David Ankrum. In this series, Adam was like Darrin, in that he
didn't want Tabitha to use her powers at all. Why? Who knows? Whereas that was a kind of
early 60's theme of a husband wanting the wife to be "a happy homemaker," it seemed so
out of date by 1977. And her brother wasn't her wife, either.

Robert Urich played her sexist co-worker and she had a guardian witch played by Karen Morrow,
named Aunt Minerva. She says she was always there for Tabitha even though we never saw her in
the original series!

The plots of these episodes were painful. There were even some cameos from original
Bewitched cast members, Dr. Bombay, the Kravtiz's (on vacation?) and the guy who
played the drunk man several times in Bewitched.

But, the gem on this dvd is that they included the original pilot they made for the series.
If they had gone in this direction, the show might've lasted. The original pilot starred an
actress named Liberty Williams and her brother was played by Bruce Kimmel. This pilot
took place in San Francisco and it lent a much needed air of "magic" that the humdrum
newsroom air of the actual series did not.

Tabitha's brother Adam, in this pilot, also had magical powers. The episode had a delightful tone
the series itself never equaled. For reasons I'm not privy to, they obviously didn't like this pilot.
Was it the actress, whom I thought was perfect? Did they want it to be more contemporary (a
working woman in L.A.?) or did they want to save money not shooting it in San Francisco? Did
they not like Adam having powers, too? (Would've surely opened up a lot more storylines!) Who
knows? Maybe it wouldn't have worked that way, either, but I bet the episodes would've been
a whole lot better than the 12 they did do.

I do remember that the show starred Lisa Hartman (I wonder whatever happened to Liberty Williams?  ??? ).

Did they ever say anything about Samantha and Darrin and Endora, et al.?

I'm confused. I thought I remembered that baby Adam was a little warlock in Bewitched?  ???

I do remember the exchange between Darrin and Grandfather Maurice when they gave the baby his name:

Maurice: Adam was my grandfather's name.

Darrin: Adam was your grandfather?

Maurice: Not that Adam!

 :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 14, 2014, 06:07:37 PM
I do remember that the show starred Lisa Hartman (I wonder whatever happened to Liberty Williams?  ??? ).

:D :D :D

Liberty Williams was on Tabitha?

No way!


Liberty Williams is well, and not acting anymore, that I know of.

I've been in touch with her a few months ago.  I found her online, she was a voice over actress for animated shows as well.


She did the voice of "Jayna", one of the Wonder Twins from the Super Friends cartoon.

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 14, 2014, 06:10:22 PM
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^^^^^^^^                                                                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Liberty Williams                                                                                        Michael Bell
  (Jayna)                                                                                                     (Zan)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 14, 2014, 06:11:11 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on April 14, 2014, 08:48:53 PM
I liked Liberty as Debbie Morgenstern in her one-shot appearance on THE MARY TYLER MOORE SHOW. Very pert and pretty.

Forty years later, she STILL is!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on April 14, 2014, 08:56:25 PM

Supposedly, Paul Lynde's one season tv series is very popular on the undergrond market if one can find it.
It truly was abominable from what I remember, though. I was in college without a tv, so I only saw a few.
Still, an occasional new Paul Lynde treat would be nice!



I well remember the series (1972-73).  I was in eighth grade and watched it every week.  I'm positive it aired on Wednesday nights.  It was pretty funny, although Lynde went way over the top a lot.  It had a lot of recurring guest stars:  Jerry Stiller and Anne Meara as his son-in-law's parents, Charlotte Rae as his sister, and Mabel Albertson as his mother-in-law (who called him PHIL).

As with some other one-season comedies (HE & SHE, MY WORLD AND WELCOME TO IT, THE PRUITTS OF SOUTHAMPTON/THE PHYLLIS DILLER SHOW, et al) THE PAUL LYNDE SHOW definitely deserves a DVD release.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 15, 2014, 08:42:04 AM
I well remember the series (1972-73).  I was in eighth grade and watched it every week.  I'm positive it aired on Wednesday nights.  It was pretty funny, although Lynde went way over the top a lot.  It had a lot of recurring guest stars:  Jerry Stiller and Anne Meara as his son-in-law's parents, Charlotte Rae as his sister, and Mabel Albertson as his mother-in-law (who called him PHIL).

I have no memory at all of the show, but what a great group of "old pro" supporting players!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on April 15, 2014, 09:56:13 AM
never mind jayna and zan, who is the cutie in the middle   :o
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 15, 2014, 11:49:19 AM
Nice pun, Lyle.  :D

 Lol!

I'm confused. I thought I remembered that baby Adam was a little warlock in Bewitched?  ???

Looking around the web I found some info about the "discontinuities" with the original series.

The series takes place in the "present day" (late 1970's) yet does not reconcile how Tabitha and Adam could be in their early-to-mid 20's when they had been young children at the time Bewitched ended only five years earlier, nor why Adam is now the 'older' sibling, nor why Adam was now mortal rather than a warlock. As a pre-teen, Erin Murphy, who had played Tabitha on Bewitched, was far too young to play an adult Tabitha.

I don't have a problem with the strict "age" thing with the characters. After all, Tabitha was born in season two
of Bewitched and a few months later at the beginning of season three she was several years older.

In the original pilot Adam is the one who's using his powers and trying to encourage Tabitha to do so as well. She's
taking after her mother and not wanting to use them. Bruce Kimmel, the Adam in this pilot, said that "Liberty Williams
wasn't really right for the part. The network was still in their Rhoda mode."  I have no idea what he means by all that.
He was supposed to play Adam in the second pilot, too, but had been offered another pilot and couldn't do it! So he
would've still been Adam in the series, other than that. I'm still of a mind the first pilot was the superior one.

I had no idea that BOTH pilots of Tabitha were shown on ABC as "specials." By the way, the first pilot was titled "TABATHA"
like it was initially spelled in the Bewitched series. 

Did they ever say anything about Samantha and Darrin and Endora, et al.?

In the final episode of Tabitha, Samantha and Darrin's 25th wedding anniversary is being celebrated, even though their
marriage in the 1964 premiere episode of Bewitched had been only 14 years earlier.


I read that Elizabeth Montgomery was asked to reprise her role on Tabitha but she declined. I don't know if that means
as a guest or in a lot of episodes. Apparently a lot of irate people who disliked the series Tabitha wrote to E.M. to air their
grievances about it! She said, "I got almost as much mail about that as I get about anything else."

TODAY would've been Elizabeth Montgomery's 81st Birthday.

This is a bit of strange info, and they don't say "why" this was:

After the series premiered on September 10, 1977, the second episode aired over two months later on November 12, 1977.

The second pilot aired as a "special" (as I said) back in May, 1977. The first episode of the new series 4 months later.
Then the second episode two months later! Talk about waiting between episodes! The networks were doing odd things
at that time. They'd air two episodes of a new series and cancel it immediately if it didn't get big ratings. Like MTM's variety
series, or Battlestar Galactica, which held on a bit longer, or the Rue McClanahan series, Apple Pie.

A photo of Lisa Hartman and David Ankrum. From the only thing I really know him from--this series--I thought David was
quite appealing. He did various roles in quite a few series, transferred to doing more voice-over work and also became a talent agent.
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 15, 2014, 11:59:03 AM
Adam was now mortal rather than a warlock.

Thanks, Lyle. At least I did remember that correctly.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 22, 2014, 09:56:11 AM
Yesterday I came across an episode of The Roy Rogers Show on one of the nostalgia stations. Roy's horse, Trigger, got mentioned in the opening credits before Dale Evans.  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on April 23, 2014, 02:37:36 PM
Imagine if Bullet and Nellybelle had gotten higher billing.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 23, 2014, 04:48:05 PM
Imagine if Bullet and Nellybelle had gotten higher billing.

Bullet may have; I don't remember. I just remember that the horse ranked higher than the wife.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on April 23, 2014, 09:10:55 PM
well, he had the horse before he had the wife...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 26, 2014, 07:56:50 PM
Caught an episode of Maverick this evening. At first couldn't quite figure out what was up with the title, "Gun-shy," because it didn't seem to have anything to do with the plot. It actually didn't, but then I realized that some of the supporting characters collectively were a parody of Gunsmoke.  :D There was Marshall Milt Doolin; a doctor; a woman who kept saying to the marshall, "Milt, be careful"; and a deputy with a limp (got stepped on by his horse) and a real countrified accent.  :D

ETA: Apparently that name should be Mort Dooley. Thanks, Bubba.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on April 26, 2014, 07:59:38 PM
Amazing that they would have taken on such a blockbuster back then!! :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 27, 2014, 08:26:22 AM
Amazing that they would have taken on such a blockbuster back then!! :D

I guess Maverick was a bit cheeky.  ;D

And I forgot to mention: At one point somebody said something about a gunfighter who had come through the town a short while before handing out business cards--a reference, of course, to Paladin, and his cards that read, "Have gun. Will travel."  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 27, 2014, 09:41:50 AM

I wish I'd seen that episode. Remember any references that could've pertained to Bonanza?
Maverick, the series, was known to be a bit tongue in cheek and playful and take itself less
seriously than the other shows of its genre! Can't say I've seen it much, though.
 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on April 27, 2014, 10:11:05 AM
I guess Maverick was a bit cheeky.  ;D

And I forgot to mention: At one point somebody said something about a gunfighter who had come through the town a short while before handing out business cards--a reference, of course, to Paladin, and his cards that read, "Have gun. Will travel."  ;D

Boy, they didn't pull any punches, did they!! I wish shows would do that now-a-days. :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 27, 2014, 03:00:16 PM
I wish I'd seen that episode. Remember any references that could've pertained to Bonanza? Maverick, the series, was known to be a bit tongue in cheek and playful and take itself less
seriously than the other shows of its genre! Can't say I've seen it much, though.

I can't say that I did. I should check the dates; perhaps this episode predated Bonanza.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 28, 2014, 10:41:17 AM

Oh, maybe so, I didn't think of that.
(Now I'm going to look it up!)

____________________________________________

Maverick
     (1957 - 1962 / 5 seasons / 124 hour long episodes)

Gunsmoke
     (1955 - 1975 / 20 seasons / 635 episodes, began as half-hour and later changed to one hour)

Have Gun Will Travel
     (1957 - 1963 / 6 seasons / 225 half-hour episodes)

Bonanza
     (1959 - 1973 / 14 seasons / 431 hour long episodes)

Maverick: "Gun-Shy"
   *This episode was the 43rd episode, the 16th episode of the second season
     and it aired on January 11, 1959.
   *Bonanza premiered in the fall of 1959, so it was not around before this
     particular episode was aired.
   *I noticed the title of the last episode of Maverick ever aired and it made
    me chuckle: "One of Our Trains is Missing."
   *Maverick did 124 episodes in 5 seasons and Have Gun Will Travel did
     225 in six? Even if Maverick was an hour long show that seems quite
     a big discrepancy.
   *I always thought Maverick was one of those half-hour westerns.
   *All those shows like Gunsmoke, Have Gun Will Travel, The Rifleman...were
     they all sponsored by the NRA?

Maybe I should watch some Mavericks. I see Me-TV has started airing
Welcome Back Kotter, but I've yet to bring myself to watch any of it.
Last summer or fall they had an afternoon where they showed several
episodes of the anthology series The Millionaire. I was hoping that they
would start programming that regularly.



Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 28, 2014, 10:58:58 AM

I don't recall this at all.

James Garner reprised Maverick in a new series called Bret Maverick
that aired from 1981 - 1982. They did 18 episodes.  It began in
December--I believe that was a year there'd been a writer's strike so
that may account for it's start in December and only doing 18 episodes.

Has anyone else done that before? Done a series and then twenty
years later continued, or reprised, it again? I know Jackie Gleason
did some special Honeymooners episodes on his variety show about
ten years later, but I can't think of anything else at the moment.
Interesting.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 28, 2014, 11:21:09 AM
Thanks for all that research, Lyle. That was interesting reading. I don't remember Bret Maverick, either.

I wonder why Westerns were such popular TV fare "back then"? I'm sure there must be some research about that somewhere. I'm sure there must have been some copycat element to it--one network had a big success with a Western, so the other two followed suit--but could that really account for so many? They were pretty staple fare through all of my childhood in the Sixties, if I remember correctly.

I doubt any of them were sponsored by the NRA, but I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of them were sponsored by cigarette brands.

Now I really ought to get off my butt and buy the early seasons of Wagon Train, expense be damned. They were good shows.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on April 28, 2014, 03:41:15 PM
I've always heard that it represented a clear cut moral universe in reaction to the Cold War.

Gunsmoke's long--term sponsor was L&M cigarettes.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 28, 2014, 05:52:14 PM
Television Westerns are a sub-genre of the Western. When television became popular in the late 1940s and 1950s, TV Westerns quickly became an audience favorite. Beginning with re-broadcasts of existing films soon a number of movie cowboys had their own TV shows. As the Western became more in demand new stories and stars were introduced. A number of long-running TV Westerns became classics in their own right. Notable TV Westerns include Bonanza, Gunsmoke, The Rifleman, Have Gun – Will Travel, Maverick, Rawhide, The Virginian, The Big Valley, and Wagon Train.

The peak year for television Westerns was 1959, with 26 such shows airing during prime-time. Increasing costs of American television production led to most action half hour series vanishing in the early 1960s to be replaced by hour long television shows, increasingly in color.[17] Traditional westerns died out in the late 1960s as a result of network changes in demographic targeting along with pressure from parental television groups. Future entries in the genre would incorporate elements from other genera such as crime drama and mystery whodunit elements. Western shows from the 1970s included McCloud, Hec Ramsey, Little House on the Prairie, and Kung Fu. In the 1990s and 2000s, hour-long Westerns and slickly packaged made-for-TV movie Westerns were introduced. Examples include Lonesome Dove and Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman. As well, new elements were once again added to the Western formula, such as the Western-science fiction show Firefly, created by Joss Whedon in 2002. Deadwood was a critically acclaimed Western series which aired on HBO from 2004 through 2006.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_%28genre%29



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Late last year we passed along the fact that Warner Home Video had (rather casually) mentioned Maverick as being among their DVD plans to celebrate their 50th Anniversary of Warner Television throughout this year. Now we have lots of details about this initial DVD release of the classic western show starring James Garner, plus cover art.

    Maverick's the name. Poker's the game. And fun is the payoff in this 3-episode disc of the TV classic that lassoed an Emmy for Best Western Series. James Garner and Jack Kelly are brothers Bret and Bart, debonair bamboozlers who know when to hold 'em, show 'em or hightail it out of town. Shady Deal at Sunny Acres has Bret planning his own methodical fury against a banker who hoodwinked him. Pappy presents the old block the boys are chipped from, the oft-quoted old gent's only appearance in the series. And U.S. Marshal Mort Dooley (note the initials, trivia fans) aims to run Bret out of town in the famed Gunsmoke spoof Gun-Shy. Rake 'em in!


149 minutes of the classic series are presented the way it was originally broadcast: Black-and-White Full Frame with English Mono sound. Subtitles are available in English, French, and Spanish on the episodes, plus closed captioning for the hearing impaired. The street date and pricing for this release has not yet been announced, but we do have the cover art (all artwork is subject to change, of course):

Taken from: http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Maverick/3368#ixzz30EDdS6Zd
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 29, 2014, 01:06:22 PM


Jeff, was Wagon Train always 90 minutes?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 29, 2014, 01:14:20 PM

I can't say that westerns were a favorite genre of mine. I liked Bonanza occasionally but that was probably because
my Dad liked to watch it. But once the Smothers Brothers came on opposite it I stopped watching! I liked watching
Doug McClure on any western he was on. I liked the more non-traditional series in the western category, like
Daniel Boone or the comedies like F Troop.  Although if it was around I'd probably have watched Guy Madison's
series that was on for eight seasons, I think, in the 50's, The Adventures of Wild Bill Hickok.

And this film he did has an intriguing title:

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 29, 2014, 02:48:54 PM
I liked the more non-traditional series in the western category, like
Daniel Boone or the comedies like F Troop.

I'm sure I have said this somewhere before, but Daniel Boone was my absolutely most favorite TV show during my childhood in the Sixties.

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Although if it was around I'd probably have watched Guy Madison's
series that was on for eight seasons, I think, in the 50's, The Adventures of Wild Bill Hickok.

I probably would have, too, unless it was on opposite Daniel Boone.  ;D

Jeff, was Wagon Train always 90 minutes?

No. If you scroll down the Wikipedia article to "Broadcast History," apparently it was a 90-minute show for only one season, 1963-64.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagon_Train (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagon_Train)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 03, 2014, 12:55:18 PM
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Efrem Zimbalist Jr., Star of The F.B.I., Dies at 95


Handsome, debonair and blessed with a distinguished voice that reflected his real-life prep-school upbringing, Efrem Zimbalist Jr. seemed born to play the television roles that made him famous, that of hip Hollywood detective and brilliant G-man.

A prolific actor who also appeared in numerous films and stage productions, Zimbalist became a household name in 1958 as Stu Bailey, the wisecracking private investigator who was a co-partner in a swinging Hollywood detective agency located at the exclusive address of 77 Sunset Strip.

When the show ended in 1964, Zimbalist became an even bigger star playing the empathetic, methodical G-man Lewis Erskine in "The F.B.I."

The actor, who in recent years had retired to his ranch in Southern California's bucolic horse country, died there Friday at age 95.

"We are heartbroken to announce the passing into peace of our beloved father, Efrem Zimbalist Jr., today at his Solvang ranch," the actor's daughter Stephanie Zimbalist and son Efrem Zimbalist III said in a statement. "He actively enjoyed his life to the last day, showering love on his extended family, playing golf and visiting with close friends."

Zimbalist's stunning good looks and cool, deductive manner made him an instant star when 77 Sunset Strip began its six-season run in 1958.

When the show ended in 1964, Zimbalist segued seamlessly into The F.B.I. the following year and that program aired until 1974.

At the end of each episode, the series would post real photos from the F.B.I.'s most-wanted list. Some of them led to arrests, which helped give the show the complete seal of approval of the agency's real-life director, J. Edgar Hoover......


http://www.people.com/article/efrem-zimablist-jr-dies-95-the-fbi

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 04, 2014, 01:54:50 PM
Efrem Zimbalist Jr., Star of The F.B.I., Dies at 95

I hadn't heard. That is sad news, but 95 is a good age, God rest him.

(I wonder what Stephanie is up to these days. I loved her in Remington Steele.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 04, 2014, 02:01:58 PM
I hadn't heard. That is sad news, but 95 is a good age, God rest him.

(I wonder what Stephanie is up to these days. I loved her in Remington Steele.)

Thanks for responding!  Actually my first thought was of Stephanie, I was a huge Remington Steel fan.  Looks like she was doing a lot of theatre.  I googled her, she has changed a lot, but then haven't we all?  ;)




Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 04, 2014, 06:15:54 PM
Thanks for responding!  Actually my first thought was of Stephanie, I was a huge Remington Steel fan.  Looks like she was doing a lot of theatre.  I googled her, she has changed a lot, but then haven't we all?  ;)

You bet!

I should Google her, too. Thanks for the tip.

Yep, soon as I saw the first Remington Steele, I knew Pierce Brosnan was going to be a star. Don't get me wrong; I like Doris Roberts; but I liked Remington Steele best in its first season, when they had Murphy and the secretary, Miss Fox (or was it Wolf?).  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 04, 2014, 07:38:42 PM
Oh I was the same, I knew Pierce would be a star and I felt the same way with Bruce in Moonlighting.  Some guys just kind of "have it".

Season 1

The first season included two recurring characters: Murphy Michaels, a detective, and rival for Laura's affections, played by James Read; and Bernice Foxe, the secretary-receptionist, played by Janet DeMay. Both Murphy and Bernice knew that Remington Steele was a fraud.

 Episodes in the first season set in motion the slow evolution of Laura and Steele's romantic relationship while revealing elements of the characters' backstory. The first season established the pattern where each episode made direct reference to an old movie (for example, The Maltese Falcon and The Thomas Crown Affair). Key episodes include "Thou Shalt Not Steele", which introduced Laura's mother and Felicia, a woman from Steele's past; "Sting of Steele", which introduced Daniel Chalmers (Efrem Zimbalist Jr., the real-life father of Stephanie) as Steele's former mentor; and "Vintage Steele", a fan favorite which focused on Laura's past.[32] Additionally, writer Joel Steiger won an Edgar Award from the Mystery Writers of America for his script for the first-season episode "In The Steele of the Night."[33]Remington Steele also received strong critical reviews in the first season, noting its intelligence and stylish sophistication.[34]



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_Steele


Interesting little tidbits at Wikipedia, now I hope it comes to Neflix!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 05, 2014, 07:12:41 AM
Key episodes include "Thou Shalt Not Steele", which introduced Laura's mother and Felicia, a woman from Steele's past.

One of my all-time personal favorites. Beverly Garland played Laura's mother, and Felicia was played by Cassandra Harris, Brosnan's wife, who died of cancer in 1991. His adopted daughter (Cassandra's daughter Charlotte) died last year.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000112/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000112/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm)

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Interesting little tidbits at Wikipedia, now I hope it comes to Neflix!

Can't speak to Netflix, but I've owned the first season on DVD for years.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 08, 2014, 11:11:33 AM
I see Me-TV has started airing Welcome Back Kotter,
but I've yet to bring myself to watch any of it.

Well, I was flipping channels and came across this show last night, or was it the night before,
and I watched several minutes of the episode. I don't remember liking this show all that much
when it originally aired for whatever reasons and it doesn't hold up any better. It's pretty bad.
The characters of the students are sooooooo stereotyped and over-played that it induces the
cringes immediately.

It's one thing to have a breakout character on a show, like Urkel on Family Matters, or Jimmie
Walker on Good Times, or Fonzie on Happy Days or Alex Keaton on Family Ties, but this show
tries to have at least four of those annoying types, each one a different ethnicity or cultural
background. The dim-witted Jersey Shore type Italian (John Travolta), the Puerto Rican Jew
(Robert Hedges--he plays Juan Epstein), the loud obnoxious white boy nerd (Ron Palillo), and
the inner city black kid (Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs), not to mention the out of touch old white
principal (John Sylvester White) and all of these characters trying to outdo and over-act in
every scene is just way too much, in my opinion. They take so much focus away from the
ostensible lead, the teacher, Gabe Kaplan, that he seems almost irrelevant. The only regular
female on the show plays his wife (Marcia Strassman) to forgettable effect.

I looked up a bit about it, it lasted four seasons (!) and aired from Sept. '75 to June '79.
They did 95 episodes in four years. (Gilligan's Island did 98 in three!) Of all the people on
the show, Lawrence Hilton-Jacobs came off the best in the few minutes I watched it. He
seemed like a real character and not a cartoon. Although it's stretching incredulity to believe
any of these characters would really have associated with one another.

The best thing about the show was its theme song.

I have no intention to drop by that show again and I already wasted too much time talking about it!




 

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2014, 12:31:15 PM
I have no intention to drop by that show again and I already wasted too much time talking about it!

Never did watch it. It appears its run covered my senior year of high school and three out of four years of college, so certainly during the college years I had a lot more important things to do.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 08, 2014, 04:15:15 PM
I vaguely remember catching a few episodes in the late 70s.  A lot of kids in my school were using "Vinny Barbarino" lines on the schoolyard.   "Up your nose with a rubber hose!"

::)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 08, 2014, 05:09:21 PM
I have no intention to drop by that show again and I already wasted too much time talking about it!

I was newly married and then later buying a house, so I may have caught a few episodes, but never watched it for any length of time.

I liked the theme song as well.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 09, 2014, 07:52:18 AM
"Up your nose with a rubber hose!"

"And twice as far with a Hershey bar. ..."

  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 10, 2014, 11:06:18 AM
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Veteran actress and Emmy-winning director and producer Nancy Malone, a co-founder of the group Women in Film and a groundbreaking female executive at 20th Century Fox in the 1970s, died Thursday in Los Angeles from complications attributed to leukemia, said her representative, Harlan Boll. She was 79.

A producer of the 1970s series The Bionic Woman and director of numerous TV shows, including Beverly Hills, 90210, Melrose Place, Dynasty, Cagney & Lacey, “Star Trek: Voyager and Dawson's Creek, the Long Island native began her career at 7 as a child model and appeared in ads for Kellogg’s, Ford and Macy’s. At 10 she was selected for the cover of Life magazine's 10th anniversary issue, depicting "The Typical American Girl."

She went on to appear in one of TV’s earliest soaps, CBS's The First Hundred Years, and at 15 made her Broadway debut as the title character in Time Out for Ginger, starring Melvyn Douglas.

As an adult her acting credits included 51 episodes of the 1958-63 ABC dramatic series Naked City, as well as such familiar TV series as Bonanza, The Fugitive, The Partridge Family, Big Valley, The Rockford Files, Outer Limits, Dr. Kildare, The Andy Griffith Show, Hawaii Five-0, The Twilight Zone and Lou Grant, as well as the 1973 movie with Burt Reynolds, The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

She won an Emmy in 1993 for producing, with Linda Hope and Don Mischer, the special Bob Hope: The First 90 Years. Malone is survived by Linda Hope, her colleague and longtime friend.

"Nancy Malone was a delight to work with on The Bionic Woman," its star, Lindsay Wagner, said Friday. "She was funny and energetic, and I had great admiration for her being one of the early women to be successful in the television industry."

Remarking on Malone's distinctive spirit and infectious laugh, actress Tyne Daly said, "She was one of the funniest known human beings. With her unfailing good taste and a heart of Irish gold, I loved working and playing with her."

Added Daly, "If there is a heaven, Nancy has arrived by limousine, and the first word out of her mouth was her personal favorite code word for the 'innkeeper' … 'NURSE!' "



http://www.people.com/article/nancy-malone-dies-actress-director-producer-pioneer-female-executive
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 10, 2014, 11:15:29 AM
, the loud obnoxious white boy nerd (Ron Palillo)

 


Palillo and his partner of 41 years, Joseph Gramm, lived in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida.[19][20] On August 14, 2012, Palillo suffered a heart attack at his home and was taken by ambulance to a nearby hospital, where he was pronounced dead on arrival.[20][21][22][23]

Palillo's funeral service was held in Palm Beach Gardens on August 22, 2012.[24] A memorial tribute directed by Lawrence Leritz and hosted by Tyne Daly, was held to honor and celebrate Palillo's life and career at NYC's The Triad Theatre, October 3, 2012.[25]



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I actually didn't know he was gay, or maybe I did, I don't think that was public knowledge.   Long time with his partner!!



I use to watch the show, it was just a funny half hour sitcom, biggest thing to come out of that was John Travolta I guess and even then it took years for his career to get back on track to the "superstar" he is today! :D





Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 10, 2014, 02:06:45 PM
Veteran actress and Emmy-winning director and producer Nancy Malone, a co-founder of the group Women in Film and a groundbreaking female executive at 20th Century Fox in the 1970s, died Thursday in Los Angeles from complications attributed to leukemia, said her representative, Harlan Boll. She was 79.

A producer of the 1970s series The Bionic Woman and director of numerous TV shows, including Beverly Hills, 90210, Melrose Place, Dynasty, Cagney & Lacey, “Star Trek: Voyager and Dawson's Creek, the Long Island native began her career at 7 as a child model and appeared in ads for Kellogg’s, Ford and Macy’s. At 10 she was selected for the cover of Life magazine's 10th anniversary issue, depicting "The Typical American Girl."

She went on to appear in one of TV’s earliest soaps, CBS's The First Hundred Years, and at 15 made her Broadway debut as the title character in Time Out for Ginger, starring Melvyn Douglas.

As an adult her acting credits included 51 episodes of the 1958-63 ABC dramatic series Naked City, as well as such familiar TV series as Bonanza, The Fugitive, The Partridge Family, Big Valley, The Rockford Files, Outer Limits, Dr. Kildare, The Andy Griffith Show, Hawaii Five-0, The Twilight Zone and Lou Grant, as well as the 1973 movie with Burt Reynolds, The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing, according to The Hollywood Reporter.

I remember the name, from her acting career, but I would never have recognized her.  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 11, 2014, 01:44:15 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 11, 2014, 01:45:22 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 11, 2014, 01:45:54 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 11, 2014, 01:46:46 PM
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HAPPY MOTHERS DAY!  ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 17, 2014, 09:30:55 AM
A few days ago, at the drugstore, I picked up a set of used DVDs of episodes of The Lone Ranger. Last night I watched the first few episodes in the set. I was pleased to find that the first couple of episodes were, apparently, the original first episodes of the TV series, as they were the "origin story" of the Lone Ranger. They were also done in serial fashion, just like the old movie serials--with endings, if they weren't exactly cliffhangers, didn't complete the story. Unfortunately, for whatever reason (and I suppose there could be many, including no surviving print in good condition), the third episode in the set was not a continuation of the story from the second episode. So I don't know if the Lone Ranger ever got Butch Cavendish.  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on May 18, 2014, 12:41:40 AM
i used to go to the local movie house, it was nearby so i could go alone, to what was then called the saturday serials, with jungle jim, tarzan, rocket man, and a variety of monsters, which cost a quarter and candy cost a nickel or a dime, and popcorn had real melted butter.  i can't even remember that boy.  i don't even think we had television, and i know the 2nd floor was unheated, relying on heat that came up through a single flue.  getting up in the morning in winter was an adventure, and may very well account for my love of tropical climates...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 21, 2014, 08:31:20 AM
Wasn't anything on last night that I wanted to watch, but it was Charlie's Angels night on Cozi-TV.  :D

I guess I am getting old when it's fun to revisit the Seventies. I watched two episodes, both from when poor Farrah was billed as Farrah Fawcett-Majors. Fun to revisit Seventies haircuts and pornstaches on the guys, too.  :D  Dennis Cole was the "special guest star" on one episode. I recognized a couple of the other guest supporting players, too.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 21, 2014, 03:43:18 PM
Another thing about the 70's, there was a wave of nostalgia for music of the 50's.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 21, 2014, 08:35:45 PM
While TV didn't begin in the 1950s, practically no one had a set before then, there were few shows, and people looked to radio and newspapers for entertainment and news. In 1947 RCA mass produced a 7 inch TV and 170,000 of them sold. By 1949, 1 million sets had been sold. As the Fifties progressed the post-war boom included both babies and TV. In 1950 there are about 10 million sets in the U.S.


As TV became more commonly available, people were enthralled. This was much better than radio. You became very popular, very quickly if your family had a TV. And people would linger outside the windows of stores that sold this new wonder - hoping to catch a glimpse of the future.


The first thing you need to know about the early days of TV is that there wasn't much of it. Mostly, in the afternoons and evenings.


The second thing you need to know is that it was black and white. Actually, it was various shades of gray. Dithered, sort of. Even if color TV had been offered, your black and white set wouldn't have known the difference.


And, ladies, just think of it, No Remote Control!




You received your TV shows via an antenna. A big ugly thing that stuck up way above the roof line of your house. The thing had to be pointed correctly to receive your local stations. Customarily this directional adjustment was accomplished by Dad going outside to manually turn the antenna while someone with an eye on the TV yelled out an open window, "no, too far, come back a little."


The earliest TV shows were really radio and vaudeville moving to a new medium. Some of these were quite successful. I Love Lucy and Gunsmoke come to mind. Variety Shows populated the early years which gave many a vaudevillian comedian a chance to show off sight gags that radio wouldn't permit.


Back before Cable.tv got so darn complicated television used to be simpler. Before LOST and 24 were broadcast over satellite's like Dish Network there were shows like The Jack Benny Show and Father Knows Best coming to you over the airwaves. These were comedic and entertaining character studies that would, one day, give birth to the modern sitcom. In fact, you could even argue that without shows like these paving the way, television as you know and love it today, could have turned out a whole lot differently. These days, sitcoms are so popular that companies compete over who can offer the best Direct TV deals, and a wide variety of sitcoms are broadcast all day and evening long.


1953 the FCC had settled on the technical specifications for color standards, but broadcasting in color was expensive and few people had replaced those black and white sets with color ones. After all, they had just bought the B&W.



This would quickly change. By 1962 a million color sets had sold, by 1965, 5 million and the networks had gone to color, by 1970 there were 37 million color sets in the U.S.


Among the first TV shows included about 120 Westerns. Mostly in black and white, cowboys set the standards of right and wrong and taught us about heroes. A few went to color. Bonanza, the Virginian and Wagon Train, the latter two experimenting with 90 minute formats.



But as Bob Dylan said, "the times they are a changin" and TV would reflect that for better or for worse. Playhouse 90 and Howdy Doody end in 1960 but we have doctor shows to replace them, Ben Casey and Dr. Kildare. Adapting to changing times, Ed Sullivan brought us the Beatles and the Rolling Stones. In mid Sixties you have the secret agents - Man From U.N.C.L.E. , Mission Impossible, I Spy, the Avengers. The latter half of the decade gave us our hippies, The Mod Squad and the Monkees.



As a reflection of changing social sensibilities, Bill Cosby becomes the first black lead on prime time TV in 1965 on I Spy. This paves the way for Greg Morris on Mission Impossible Clarence Williams of Mod Squad and Don Mitchell of Ironside.


We watched Nixon lose a debate to Kennedy and then in despair over four days, watched Kennedy assassinated and buried.



Maybe the Viet Nam War so confused our notion of good guys and bad, or maybe we had evolved socially to the place where white guys wearing red makeup to pass as "injuns" was uncomfortable. I leave that for social historians. The fact remains that by 1970 the Western had gone thataway.



Variety shows are no longer with us either. The sitcom thrives and every one of those million dollar per episode Friend's actors owe respect to Lucille Ball and Dick Van Dyke who paved the way.



So let's get started with our reminiscing, click here for a complete list of shows with photo's, descriptions and fun facts about each!


http://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv-shows.htm

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on May 22, 2014, 06:20:25 AM
you didn't mention several hilarious gizmos that could be added to the small and later larger tv's.  one was a cellophane like screen with a green tint on the bottom, a yellowy beige center area, and a blue top area to simulate the sky.  it was as lame as it sounds.

less lame, but more dangerous was the liquid filled magnifying screen that could be attached via metal rods that magnified everything on the other side.  it worked, but the picture own viewed was somewhat distorted.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 22, 2014, 07:33:27 AM
I think I've mentioned this before, but my grandparents had an early version of a remote. It was tethered to the TV by a very ... long ... cord. You had to be careful not to trip over it when you walked across the living room!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 22, 2014, 03:14:01 PM
I think I've mentioned this before, but my grandparents had an early version of a remote. It was tethered to the TV by a very ... long ... cord. You had to be careful not to trip over it when you walked across the living room!  :D

Sounds like the first cell phone we had in our car!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 22, 2014, 03:17:00 PM
you didn't mention several hilarious gizmos that could be added to the small and later larger tv's.  one was a cellophane like screen with a green tint on the bottom, a yellowy beige center area, and a blue top area to simulate the sky.  it was as lame as it sounds.

l


 :D  That sounds familiar!   I do remember our first black and white TV, but I honestly don't remember going to colour, although we obviously did.



(http://www.curvymagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/tv_set.jpg)



I just can't imagine what people did who didn't have the best eye sight.   The smallest TV we have now in the house is 50 inch and it doesn't even seem "that big".


Sometimes size matters!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 22, 2014, 09:38:30 PM
I think I've mentioned this before, but my grandparents had an early version of a remote. It was tethered to the TV by a very ... long ... cord. You had to be careful not to trip over it when you walked across the living room!  :D

My Dad had one too. Notice I say my Dad, as we were not allowed to use it!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 23, 2014, 03:19:37 AM
I think I've mentioned this before, but my grandparents had an early version of a remote. It was tethered to the TV by a very ... long ... cord. You had to be careful not to trip over it when you walked across the living room!  :D

Our first VCR had that feature as well, something like this, with the remote on the left of the pic.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4154/5087262909_c756e5d023.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 23, 2014, 10:41:10 AM

When I got my VCR they told me it was the first one with a wireless remote.

I look at that photo and remember how heavy my VCR was. TV's weigh less now than the VCR did!

People didn't believe me years later when I told them that blank tapes used to cost $20 apiece!
Now people don't even know what "blank tapes" mean!


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 23, 2014, 02:04:28 PM
I remember renting the VCR and a half a dozen movies for the weekend and it cost a fortune!


My kids had the first Ghost Buster movie on VHS (when it came out) and it cost a bundle, friends of ours bought a copy from the video store  for them for Christmas and that thing was worth it's weight in gold! lol


We waited to see these TV shows (and movies) come on the television, it never even occurred to us that one day we could own them and watch them at our leisure.

And now even owning them is old news, thanks to PVR and Nefflix. 


The times they are a changing...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bentgyro on May 23, 2014, 02:46:16 PM
You've heard the old jokes about the first remote controls being your kids, changing channels for the adults! :D :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 23, 2014, 05:00:22 PM
You've heard the old jokes about the first remote controls being your kids, changing channels for the adults! :D :D


(http://healthhub.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Baby-with-remote-control-190x155.jpg)


 :D



(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ob5Xz_8uheA/TplllzKJkLI/AAAAAAAAEfQ/ZO3Lxy5ErXY/s400/classic-tv.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 26, 2014, 10:50:07 AM
Maverick marathon on Cozi-TV today.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 26, 2014, 06:43:51 PM
I don't think we have ever talked about SOAPS in Classic TV, have we?


Here is one of the greats who passed, I never watched this soap, but I remember him oddly enough (his character) and seems like he did quite a bit of other TV as well.

And I had no idea the two of them were married, I really like her.   Rest in peace, poor man..  beautiful family.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2639192/Christine-Baranskis-soap-opera-actor-husband-Matthew-Cowles-dies-age-69.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on May 28, 2014, 12:32:26 AM
i remember the remotes with cords as well.  i was going to say zenith, and it might have been, but it might also be that the zenith was that first wireless.

in any case, the tv console was a behemoth.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on May 28, 2014, 12:40:14 AM
Sounds like the first cell phone we had in our car!  :D
i wonder if you had what we had, not exactly a cell phone, but a ship to shore phone.  my grade school dropout dad was such an integral part of his water treatment facility design and maintenance operation that he talked the bigwigs into getting him a ship to shore phone for his truck, which he had also had customized for his special equipment needs  it had a regular handset, but you talked to an operator to get a land line.
http://weburbanist.com/2012/09/18/remember-millions-of-mobile-phones-in-the-1960s-you-should/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 28, 2014, 06:59:59 AM
i remember the remotes with cords as well.  i was going to say zenith, and it might have been, but it might also be that the zenith was that first wireless.

in any case, the tv console was a behemoth.

I think you might be right about Zenith, Jack. That was more or less our "family brand," and I'm pretty sure the set my grandparents had was a Zenith.

I still have a Zenith VCR that was purchased 30 years ago this year. Don't know if still works, though.  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 28, 2014, 11:55:20 AM
It's looking quite possible that I may be spending much of this summer in a Wagon Train retrospective. At some expense I just bought the first season on DVD, and so far I've watched the first three episodes (from what I can tell, the episodes are on the discs in broadcast order). These first season shows are older than I am, but I think the stories are good, and such guest performers! The series debut episode had Earnest Borgnine, episode two had Ricardo Montalban (I admit it took me a few minutes to recognize him, until I heard that unmistakeable voice), and episode three had Carolyn Jones, Michael Rennie, Claude Akins, and Jack Elam.

And then there is the little matter that I think Robert Horton as scout Flint McCullough was sex on a stick. ...  ::)

Best I can determine, Horton is still "with us" and will be 90 years old July 29 of this year.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 28, 2014, 05:21:39 PM
Hey I was hooked on Rifleman there for a while!  :D


http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/showbiz/2014/05/21/orig-the-sixties-television-quiz.cnn.html


 Name that '60s' TV show 

How well do you know your '60s' TV? See if you can name these famous TV shows from a few bars of their theme songs.



I missed one, they were actually too easy!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 29, 2014, 07:36:56 AM
Hey I was hooked on Rifleman there for a while!  :D

That was a good show, too. The Marx company even made a play set, with "character figures" of Lucas and Mark!  :D

Johnny Crawford grew up to be a hottie, and last I saw him a few months ago, doing commercials for a nostalgia channel, he was still an attractive man.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 29, 2014, 12:15:35 PM
It's looking quite possible that I may be spending much of this summer in a Wagon Train retrospective. At some expense I just bought the first season on DVD, and so far I've watched the first three episodes (from what I can tell, the episodes are on the discs in broadcast order).

Click this link and it'll list the episode order for you.

http://www.epguides.com/wagontrain/

I've been watching Combat.  I just started the third season. Lots of guest stars in that show, too.
(Ricardo Montalban, as a matter of fact.) Perhaps an effort to get some younger viewers, but this show
had young crooners of the time guest starring in it like Frankie Avalon, Tommy Sands and Bobby Rydell.
They also had people like Eddie Albert, Lee Marvin, Mickey Rooney, Frank Gorshin, Jeffrey Hunter and
Robert Culp.

There were four gay men in guest starring roles so far, too:  Tab Hunter, Sal Mineo, Roddy McDowall and
Ramon Novarro! (I understand Sal Mineo did three episodes and Ramon Novarro did two, though I've only
seen one of each of them so far.)

Being the nature of the show there's few women in it, although they do have some occasionally like
Claudine Longet and an upcoming one has Luise Rainer in it!

There are actors in it who were not famous at the time, but went on to greater fame. Robert Duvall appears
more than once. Ted Knight often appears as a German character. James Caan was in a very good episode.

Interestingly, there's been several episodes involving stories with children, a young girl or boy will be
the focus of the story. Some of those are quite good and others a bit cringeworthy.

As a 10-15+ year old I was never much interested in the World War II series of the sixties at that time, but
thanks to dvd and the retro channels I've really been enjoying Combat and 12 O'Clock High. I'd like to see
more than the handful of episodes I've seen of the 70's series Baa Baa Black Sheep, too, also known as
The Black Sheep Squadron.

Others that I remember were on, but don't know much about were The Rat Patrol and Garrison's Gorilla's.
Or was it "Guerilla's"?

As for the WWII comedies, I try to like McHale's Navy, but it just veers into complete imbecility to me most
of the time. Most of the others, like Operation Petticoat, Mister Roberts and The Wackiest Ship in the Army
(yes "Army"), all of which were based on films by the way, Mister Roberts was also a play, but weren't on
long enough to have a studied opinion.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 29, 2014, 01:02:49 PM
Click this link and it'll list the episode order for you.

http://www.epguides.com/wagontrain/

Thanks, Lyle. I already had that site bookmarked--what clued me in that the epidsodes are in broadcast order on the DVDs. (Last night was episode 4, "The Ruth Owens Story," with Shellie Winters, Dean Stockwell, and Kent Smith. I saw this episode on a nostaligia channel maybe about a year ago. I recognized Dean Stockwell right away, but it took a few minutes to recognize Shellie Winters. It's not nice to say it, but I'd never seen her that thin before.  :-\ )

Quote
I've been watching Combat.  I just started the third season. Lots of guest stars in that show, too.
(Ricardo Montalban, as a matter of fact.) Perhaps an effort to get some younger viewers, but this show
had young crooners of the time guest starring in it like Frankie Avalon, Tommy Sands and Bobby Rydell.

They also had people like Eddie Albert, Lee Marvin, Mickey Rooney, Frank Gorshin, Jeffrey Hunter and
Robert Culp.

Reminds me that in one episode of the second season of Daniel Boone, Fabian played Jemima Boone's first crush--and he looked pretty nice with his shirt off!  :D

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There are actors in it who were not famous at the time, but went on to greater fame. Robert Duvall appears
more than once. Ted Knight often appears as a German character. James Caan was in a very good episode.

That's always a very fun part of watching these old shows now.

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As a 10-15+ year old I was never much interested in the World War II series of the sixties at that time, but
thanks to dvd and the retro channels I've really been enjoying Combat and 12 O'Clock High. I'd like to see
more than the handful of episodes I've seen of the 70's series Baa Baa Black Sheep, too, also known as
The Black Sheep Squadron.

Others that I remember were on, but don't know much about were The Rat Patrol and Garrison's Gorilla's.
Or was it "Guerilla's"?

As for the WWII comedies, I try to like McHale's Navy, but it just veers into complete imbecility to me most
of the time. Most of the others, like Operation Petticoat, Mister Roberts and The Wackiest Ship in the Army
(yes "Army"), all of which were based on films by the way, Mister Roberts was also a play, but weren't on
long enough to have a studied opinion.

The World War II dramas never much interested me when I was a kid. The comedies were OK, maybe because kids like silly things? I remember watching Hogan's Heroes regularly. I don't think Operation Petticoat lasted very long, but I remember it. I remember The Wackiest Ship in the Army, but maybe I'm confusing it with the movie. I guess maybe McHale's Navy was already in syndicated reruns when I saw it--it's where I first knew Tim Conway.

I wonder what the guys who fought World War II thought of those dramas?

Twelve O'Clock High was a movie, too--TCM showed it this week.

I remember my dad liked Baa Baa Black Sheep when it was in first run.

And I'm pretty sure it was Garrison's Guerillas.  ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 30, 2014, 12:06:04 PM
That's always a very fun part of watching these old shows now.

Yes, I agree, it's an added treat!

The World War II dramas never much interested me when I was a kid.

When I look back on what i liked until around age fifteen I guess I really didn't like dramas at all.
I liked the sitcoms best followed by variety shows, that emphasiszed comedy, and game shows!
And cartoons.

I remember watching Hogan's Heroes regularly.

Oh, yes, why I forgot about that, I don't know. I always watched that. I see it once in awhile
on Me-TV currently, too. That was said to be loosely based on Stalag 17. For some reason critics
hated that series. Yes, there was a lot of buffoonery in it, but so was McHale's Navy, even moreso,
yet they had no problem with that one.

I don't think Operation Petticoat lasted very long, but I remember it.

I didn't have access to a TV around the time this was on, so I only saw it once or twice. I like the
film, so I would've watched it. It was on for two seasons. For reasons I don't know, after the
first season they recast the entire show. Then it got pulled after a couple episodes the next fall,
but they aired all of the remaining episodes the following summer.

I wonder what the guys who fought World War II thought of those dramas?

Combat was the longest running of the WWII dramas. It ran five years, the last season in color.
One season it was in the Top Ten of all shows. Apparently, as is common with those who served
in wars, after they were out and the war was over they did not much talk about their experiences.

Over the years the people involved with Combat heard from a lot of the children of these men
who related that they grew to know and understand their fathers more because of their experience
of watching Combat together. Their fathers would make comments and open up and talk about
their own experiences during the war.

The former soldiers said that they thought the show captured much of what their actual experiences
were like. (Within the limits of violence and stories that could be depicted on TV at the time.) Many of
the cast and crews and guest stars had actually been in the service and experienced some of what they
were portraying.

The advent of home video and dvd's has resurrected interest in the show and even until very recently
they've had "Combat" conventions in various cities across the the U.S. where cast members and crew
would come and mingle with fans of the show etc.

The official book about the tv series was written by a woman, Jo Davidsmeyer. Most of the episodes on
the dvd's have some interesting facts, notes or oddities from the episode included along with it.

On the Combat dvd's, several of the episodes have commentary by directors, some of the cast and
some guest stars who were in episodes, like Ben Cooper, who I knew as the young sailor in the
film The Rose Tattoo.

I do wish Fox would put the 12 O'Clock High series on dvd. I would get that one. If it were not for
Me-TV I'd probably never have seen it. I believe I caught all or nearly all of the episodes, though it
was only being aired in the middle of the night and hard to record them all to watch because of that.

Fox is seemingly not so keen on spending money on old tv series in their vaults and if this one needed
restoration work probably even less so. (It IS a Quinn-Martin Production!) Because of the nature of the
series, it did give every British actor and actress in Hollywood, it seems, a chance to do a guest spot!
Even Judy Carne was in a couple episodes! And a favorite, Glynis Johns.

I had made notes of the guest stars when I was watching it. Some of the notables in that series were:
Sally Kellerman, Peter Fonda, Peter Duell, Ken Berry, Dabney Coleman, Brandon DeWilde, Roy Thinnes,
Bruce Dern, Rip Torn, Keir Dullea, Earl Holliman, Hermione Baddely, Barbara Feldon, Harold Gould, Lee
Meriwether, James Farentino, James Whitmore, Robert Colbert, James Brolin, Beau Bridges, Ted Bessell,
Tom Skerritt, Jack Lord, Warren Oates, Lois Nettleton, Burt Reynolds, William Shatner, Juliet Mills, Harry
Guardino, Michael Rennie, Robert Walker, Dina Merrill, Burgess Meredith, Bradford Dillman, Jill Ireland,
Roddy McDowall, Michael Murphy, James Franciscus, Edward Mulhare, William Windom, Kevin McCarthy,
Michael Constantine, Bernard Fox, Robert Blake, Wayne  Rogers, Norman Fell, James Broderick, Martin
Milner, Lilia Skala, Joseph Campanella, Ossie Davis, Ralph Bellamy, Andrew Duggan and Jon Voight.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 30, 2014, 12:13:41 PM
WOW that is quite a list.....Brandon DeWilde, there is a blast from the past!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 30, 2014, 12:29:29 PM

And I'm pretty sure it was Garrison's Guerillas.  ;)

I looked it up; it actually was  "Gorillas" -- lol!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 30, 2014, 12:52:12 PM
I looked it up; it actually was  "Gorillas" -- lol!

 :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 30, 2014, 01:03:32 PM
Combat was the longest running of the WWII dramas. It ran five years, the last season in color.
One season it was in the Top Ten of all shows. Apparently, as is common with those who served
in wars, after they were out and the war was over they did not much talk about their experiences.

Over the years the people involved with Combat heard from a lot of the children of these men
who related that they grew to know and understand their fathers more because of their experience
of watching Combat together. Their fathers would make comments and open up and talk about
their own experiences during the war.

The former soldiers said that they thought the show captured much of what their actual experiences
were like. (Within the limits of violence and stories that could be depicted on TV at the time.) Many of
the cast and crews and guest stars had actually been in the service and experienced some of what they
were portraying.

The advent of home video and dvd's has resurrected interest in the show and even until very recently
they've had "Combat" conventions in various cities across the the U.S. where cast members and crew
would come and mingle with fans of the show etc.

The official book about the tv series was written by a woman, Jo Davidsmeyer. Most of the episodes on
the dvd's have some interesting facts, notes or oddities from the episode included along with it.

On the Combat dvd's, several of the episodes have commentary by directors, some of the cast and
some guest stars who were in episodes, like Ben Cooper, who I knew as the young sailor in the
film The Rose Tattoo.

I do wish Fox would put the 12 O'Clock High series on dvd. I would get that one. If it were not for
Me-TV I'd probably never have seen it. I believe I caught all or nearly all of the episodes, though it
was only being aired in the middle of the night and hard to record them all to watch because of that.

Fox is seemingly not so keen on spending money on old tv series in their vaults and if this one needed
restoration work probably even less so. (It IS a Quinn-Martin Production!) Because of the nature of the
series, it did give every British actor and actress in Hollywood, it seems, a chance to do a guest spot!
Even Judy Carne was in a couple episodes! And a favorite, Glynis Johns.

I had made notes of the guest stars when I was watching it. Some of the notables in that series were:
Sally Kellerman, Peter Fonda, Peter Duell, Ken Berry, Dabney Coleman, Brandon DeWilde, Roy Thinnes,
Bruce Dern, Rip Torn, Keir Dullea, Earl Holliman, Hermione Baddely, Barbara Feldon, Harold Gould, Lee
Meriwether, James Farentino, James Whitmore, Robert Colbert, James Brolin, Beau Bridges, Ted Bessell,
Tom Skerritt, Jack Lord, Warren Oates, Lois Nettleton, Burt Reynolds, William Shatner, Juliet Mills, Harry
Guardino, Michael Rennie, Robert Walker, Dina Merrill, Burgess Meredith, Bradford Dillman, Jill Ireland,
Roddy McDowall, Michael Murphy, James Franciscus, Edward Mulhare, William Windom, Kevin McCarthy,
Michael Constantine, Bernard Fox, Robert Blake, Wayne  Rogers, Norman Fell, James Broderick, Martin
Milner, Lilia Skala, Joseph Campanella, Ossie Davis, Ralph Bellamy, Andrew Duggan and Jon Voight.

Thanks, Lyle. That was fascinating!

Boyoboy, do some of those names take me back!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on June 01, 2014, 05:17:59 AM
WOW that is quite a list.....Brandon DeWilde, there is a blast from the past!
omg, brandon de wilde in HUD, hero worshiping his brother, paul newman.  i had my own screenplay for that duo, and it was a lot more like front runner.

speaking of, same thing goes for the rifleman when i was a teen.  its a good thing they didn't have action figures in those days, i'd have been locked up for sure.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on June 01, 2014, 05:22:50 AM
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LZ9ujiiIzV0/Uk3S8O5qEQI/AAAAAAAAEQ0/iAAyrpSCqUI/s1600/Hud-1963-Brandon-de-Wilde-Paul-Newman-pic-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 01, 2014, 08:37:18 AM
Brandon deWilde sure was a hottie. Another who died too young.  :(

I admit, the first time I saw Hud, considering when the film was released, I was a little surprised by the scene where he was clearly supposed to be naked under the sheets when Patricia Neal walks into his bedroom.

Hmmm. Him and Uncle Hud. ...  :o Thud!  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 01, 2014, 02:36:42 PM

I looked up Brandon De Wilde and he did quite a bit of TV.  When he was really young he did a
one season tv series where he was a regular. Some of the more notable series he made appearances
on were:

Ironside
Night Gallery
The Virginian (3 episodes)
The Young Rebels (a TV series I posted about here awhile ago concerning the Revolutionary War. Brandon played "Young Nathan Hale.")
Love, American Style (hmmmm...episode was called "Love and the Bachelor")
Hawaii Five-O
The Name of the Game
Combat! (glad to see he's in one of these, so I'll be seeing it!)
The Defenders
12 O'Clock High
Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color (a three part western themed story)
The Greatest Show on Earth (did you know there was a TV Series of this?)
Alfred Hitchcock Presents (interestingly, he was in the very last 1/2 hour episode of this series and the network censored it and didn't air it
                                    for reasons I used to know, but have forgotten. A couple years later, though, it was included in the syndication
                                     airings for the show and no one had any objections.)

Nearly all of these shows are airing on TV in one way or another right now.

__________________

As for Hud, it's one of my favorite films. I don't know the zeitgeist of the oscars at the time, but I happen to think
of the five nominated best  pictures that year that this one is better than all of those five. I don't know why it did
not get a nom for Best Picture. (The New York Film Critics had Hud runner-up in both Picture and Director to Tom Jones.)

Looking for standard clues about nominations it's hard to pinpoint anything. It was an era where huge big budget monstrosities got
nominations, whether worthy or not--things like The Longest Day, How the West Was Won, Cleopatra, Doctor Doolittle. Racial issues
were front and center which probably accounted for the nice but nothing extraordinary Lilies of the Field getting a nom and Poitier
winning over Paul Newman. Cleopatra was considered a turkey by most critics, but audiences appreciated it, at least somewhat. The
release dates were all over the place, including Hud those six films were released in February, May, June, October and two in December,
including Tom Jones. Tom Jones may have struck a chord because it was a kind of comedic romance with scenes scored in a silent movie
type way and after all the turmoil of the previous year and the British invasion on the way, it may have been a breath of fresh air and a matter
of timing.

The five films nominated that year, total nominations in parentheses, were America America (4), How the West Was Won (8), Lilies of the Field (5),
Cleopatra (9) and Tom Jones (10).  Hud had 7 nominations, including three acting (two won!) and writing, directing, cinematography (won!) and
b&w art direction. Only two of the BP nominees had corresponding director nominations so it was a foregone conclusion that one of those was
a probable win for Best Picture, too, and that was Tom Jones or America America. Both released in Dec. by the way.

The three other directing noms, by the way, were for: The Cardinal, Federico Fellini's 8-1/2 and Hud.

When you look at these six films on hindsight people now really feel lukewarm toward Tom Jones. It was
advertised as racy and bawdy and it does have a great scene with Albert Finney where he and his paramour
are practically making love in the guise of eating dinner. It was a scene much talked about and parodies,
including a hilarious episode of F-Troop. It all seems so tame now and rather boring. Even the cinematography
is unappealing. It was released in theatres in a director's cut (which was 2-3 minutes shorter than the original!)
in the late 80's or early 90's and I saw it (for the second time) on the big screen and was quite underwhelmed.

On the imdb boards, the users and critics ratings interesting give these films the following ratings:

7.9 Hud
7.9 America America
7.7 Lilies of the Field
7.1 How the West Was Won
7.0 Cleopatra
6.8 Tom Jones

Of all the films, Tom Jones is the lowest rated. And despite Hud & America America having the
same rating, America was rated by about 3,000 people and Hud by 13,000 people.

America America is perhaps one of those rather lost films that never appears anywhere for people to see.
Because of that, I thought it must have been way overrated at the time and probably "oscar boring."
It did have a limited vhs release once and I saw it then. To my surprise, even after a near three hour
running time I thought it a very worthwhile, good and entertaining film.

It certainly is a better made and told film than Cleopatra, but of those six films I'd rate Hud first, but Cleopatra
second because it's excesses are just too delicious to ignore, especially in 70mm in a movie theatre! My third
choice would be America America.

Hud deserved better at the oscars, but it did win three of them and obviously it seems people like it as evidenced
by its imdb rating, however skewed those might be at times.

By the way, I am not a fan of movie remakes unless there is a very good reason to do so.
I think HUD is near perfect, but there is a good reason to consider remaking it. In the original
story, the Patricia Neal character, Alma, is black, and the sensibilities of the time would not have
approved of that. In fact, on the imdb page there is a thread for pondering who might've been
cast back then f they'd stuck to the original story. There's not many replies, but it's an interesting
question to ponder.

Another film that could be remade because the times didn't allow it to be shot the way it was written
is a best picture nominee (1947, I believe) titled Crossfire. It's about soldiers accused of anti-semitism
and for bashing another soldier because of it. The original book, though, titled A Brick Foxhole, was
actually about a gay bashing.

Now back to Brandon De Wilde and classic TV, heh!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on June 01, 2014, 05:22:42 PM
RIP dear, funny Ann B. Davis, who died today.  I just loved her, on THE BOB CUMMINGS SHOW (she won two Emmys as Schultzy) and THE BRADY BUNCH and everything else she did.  Also, she was a very sweet lady when I met her in 1995.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 01, 2014, 05:25:03 PM
RIP dear, funny Ann B. Davis, who died today.  I just loved her, on THE BOB CUMMINGS SHOW (she won two Emmys as Schultzy) and THE BRADY BUNCH and everything else she did.  Also, she was a very sweet lady when I met her in 1995.

Just heard on the NBC that she had died. Sad news. I don't know anyone who didn't like her.

How nice that you actually got to meet her!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on June 03, 2014, 10:35:33 AM
Really sorry to hear this, you and Mr. Brady together again!   :-*
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 08, 2014, 08:06:05 PM
Early Saturday eveing, as I was preparing to make my supper, I was channel surfing just to see what was on, and on one of the nostalgia stations, what should I stumble on but The Real McCoys!  ;D

And what is really spooky--almost creepy--it was the only episode of that show that I remember seeing as a small boy: The McCoys needed to dig a new well for their farm. Behind the back of Grandpa Amos (Walter Brennan), Luke (Richard Crenna) brought in a geologist to find water; Amos was sure he could find water with his divining rod. Guess who was correct?  :D

ETA: I just did a little research, and I must remember this episode from syndicated reruns. Wikipedia calls this one of the shows most-remembered episodes, but I still find it more than a little weird that the first time in maybe 50 years that I see an episode of the show, it's the only episode that I clearly remember.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on June 08, 2014, 08:07:38 PM
Did Amos say, "Gol darn these new-fangled inventions!"?

 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 08, 2014, 08:31:39 PM
Did Amos say, "Gol darn these new-fangled inventions!"?

Not that I can recall.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on June 09, 2014, 06:27:28 AM
He probably said, "They just ain't no PLEASIN' ya!"  He does that about once an episode.

But I can tune out his tirades and look at Richard Crenna.  This had to be one of the most jaw-dropping moments for 1950s TV viewers:  From Walter Denton to THIS?!?

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 09, 2014, 07:37:46 AM
To the day he died (Jan. 17, 2003) Richard Crenna was a handsome man. At the time of The Real McCoys I would have called him a hottie!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 09, 2014, 11:42:52 AM
Well, here's a show I missed completely: The Quest.

Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quest_(TV_series)

It's only half-season was the fall of 1976. That was my first semester of college, and I wasn't watching too much television right then. Plus, I'd say it was doomed from the start, as a Western scheduled opposite Charlie's Angels.

But--holy smokes!--it had Kurt Russel and Tim Matheson as the stars!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on June 10, 2014, 09:00:16 AM
i haven't watched the episode yet, but screaming headlines and fainting fans have made it clear that ORPHAN BLACK has succeeded in blowing up twitter with its latest twist...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 10, 2014, 01:17:12 PM
RIP dear, funny Ann B. Davis, who died today.  I just loved her, on THE BOB CUMMINGS SHOW (she won two Emmys as Schultzy) and THE BRADY BUNCH and everything else she did.  Also, she was a very sweet lady when I met her in 1995.

Because I was bored, I just looked up The Brady Bunch on Wikipedia. I don't recall ever knowing Alice's last name; according to Wikipedia it was Nelson.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 11, 2014, 09:47:05 AM
I guess I had a sort-of Agnes Moorehead evening last night. First I watched Bewitched! on a nostalgia channel, and then I watched her in "The Mary Halstead Story," from Season 1 of Wagon Train.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 11, 2014, 11:02:50 AM
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0104770/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0104770/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm)

Henry Brandon

I looked this fella up at IMDb because recently I thought I recognized him--playing an Indian--in a Wagon Train episode, that is, recognized him as Acacius Page, Patrick Dennis' first New York schoolteacher in Auntie Mame. I was correct. Interesting to note that he was a "confirmed bachelor" (and we all know what that was code for, don't we?), and also a longtime companion of Judy Garland's fourth husband!

Apparently Auntie Mame was one of the few times he played a nice guy--and I thought he was very attractive in Auntie Mame.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on June 11, 2014, 03:13:51 PM
Confirmed bachelor!!  :D  

I love seeing people on these old shows and then looking them up!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 11, 2014, 04:53:45 PM
Confirmed bachelor!!  :D  

I love seeing people on these old shows and then looking them up!

That's a great old term, isn't it, "confirmed bachelor"?  :D

I forgot to mention that the guest star on one of the Bewitched! episodes last night was the wonderful Eve Arden. It was the episode where Tabitha is born, and Arden was the head nurse in the maternity ward.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on June 11, 2014, 05:09:45 PM
Bewitched is on Netflix now, I totally plan to start watching from the begining, probably tonight!



I will always think fondly of Eve in the Mothers-In-Laws, loved that show when I was young. 

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on June 12, 2014, 03:43:30 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 13, 2014, 07:34:55 AM
Two more episodes of Bewitched! on Antenna-TV last night, followed by an episode of Magnum, P.I. on Cozi-TV, followed by one episode of Wagon Train on DVD!  :D

We are still in the b&w episodes of Bewitched!, and I ws thinking last night that these episodes might be seen as reflecting changes that were taking place in customs in these years. I noticed that in some episodes, when Sam and Endora go out to lunch--say, in Paris--they wear hats and gloves. In other episodes, when Sam shows up at Darrin's office to go out to lunch with him, she's wearing gloves but no hat.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on June 13, 2014, 08:14:40 AM
Ah, the good old formal days...

Thanks for the memories, Jeff.  I love me some Bewitched and Agnes and Henry Brandon. He was extremely attractive in Auntie Mame, and yes, he was gay.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on June 15, 2014, 10:30:26 AM
TV Guide's '50 Greatest TV Dads of All Time'

1. Cliff Huxtable (The Cosby Show)
2. Ben Cartwright (Bonanza)
3. John Walton, Sr. (The Waltons)
4. Charles Ingalls (Little House on the Prairie)
5. Danny Williams (Make Room for Daddy)
6. Jim Anderson (Father Knows Best)
7. Steve Douglas (My Three Sons)
8. Andy Taylor (The Andy Griffith Show)
9. Howard Cunningham (Happy Days)
10. Ray Barone (Everybody Loves Raymond)
11. Reverend Eric Camden (7th Heaven)
12. Steven Keaton (Family Ties)
13. Dan Conner (Roseanne)
14. Mike Brady (The Brady Bunch)
15. Tom Corbett (Courtship of Eddie's Father)
16. Alex Stone (The Donna Reed Show)
17. Forrest Bedford (I'll Fly Away)
18. George Lopez (George Lopez)
19. Herman Munster (The Munsters)
20. Tim Taylor (Home Improvement)
21. Ozzie Nelson (The Adventures of Ozzie & Harriet)
22. Rob Petrie (The Dick Van Dyke Show)
23. Tony Micelli (Who's the Boss?)
24. Archie Bunker (All in the Family)
25. Sandy Cohen (The OC)
26. Doug Lawrence (Family)
27. Michael Kyle (My Wife and Kids)
28. Ward Cleaver (Leave it to Beaver)
29. Jack Bristow (Alias)
30. Chester A. Riley (Life of Riley)
31. Andy Sipowicz (NYPD Blue)
32. Lucas McCain (The Rifleman)
33. Tom Bradford (Eight is Enough)
34. Philip Banks (The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air)
35. Homer Simpson (The Simpsons)
36. Rick Sammler (Once and Again)
37. Jason Seaver (Growing Pains)
38. John Robinson (Lost in Space)
39. Martin Lane (The Patty Duke Show)
40. Will Girardi (Joan of Arcadia)
41. Jim Walsh (Beverly Hills, 90210)
42. Fred Sanford (Sanford and Son)
43. Andy Brown (Everwood)
44. George Jefferson (The Jeffersons)
45. Rocky Rockford (The Rockford Files)
46. Michael Steadman (thirtysomething)
47. Bernie Mac (Bernie Mac)
48. Paul Hennessy (8 Simple Rules)
49. Graham Chase (My So-Called Life)
50. Benjamin Sisko (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on June 16, 2014, 09:48:50 AM
Disagree. Cliff Huxtable was always such a smartass and I cringed when he made fun of poor Vanessa "finally" getting visited by "the breast fairy."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Sara B on June 16, 2014, 10:03:28 AM
John Walton for me....
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on June 16, 2014, 10:42:23 AM
That would probably be my choice, too.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 16, 2014, 11:41:48 AM
Lucas McCain. ...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on June 16, 2014, 02:43:21 PM
Yea I hate to disagree with Cliff only because my kids would disown me, they were huge fans of the Cosby show and thought they were the "perfect family".

Of course I am as bad, I thought the Walton's and the Ingall's were the perfect families!  :D


So for me it would be a tie between Father (Daddy) Walton and Father (Pa) Ingall's.


BUT Lucas McCain sure did make a great Dad didn't he?

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 17, 2014, 08:25:08 PM
This evening I watched the "Riley Gratton Story" episode from Season 1 of Wagon Train. Riley Gratton was played by Guy Madison, whom I seem to remember being discussed at length somewhere around here.  :D

Come to think of it, there's a "slash" pairing for you, Flint McCullough and Riley Gratton. ...  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 18, 2014, 09:02:21 AM
Flint McCullough and Riley Gratton.

To my mind, those are really awful names, lol!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 18, 2014, 09:33:21 AM
To my mind, those are really awful names, lol!

With those two guys, who cares about names?  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 20, 2014, 07:18:36 AM
Been meaning to mention that I've noticed, a number of the first season episodes of Wagon Train that I've watched so far were written by ... Aaron Spelling!  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 23, 2014, 09:43:33 AM
I was amused by a continuity error I noticed in the Wagon Train episode I watched last night, "The Gabe Carswell Story." In one scene Flint McCullough (Robert Horton) is talking with a young man who is half white and half Native American. In the distance shots at the beginning and ending of the scene, the young man is wearing war paint. In the close-ups in between, he is not wearing war paint. If that was caught, I suppose there was no time to fix it on a TV shooting schedule.

Incidentally, I was surprised how sympathetic that episode was to the Native American viewpoint for a TV episode from 1957/58. The Indians weren't just "hostile" for the dramatic necessity. They were given a perfectly rational and understandable reason for their anger: the influx of whites slaughtering and driving away the buffalo, causing starvation and threatening their way of life.

This episode starred James Whitmore, one of my all-time favorite character actors, as Gabe Carswell, a semi-legendary hunter-trapper-mountain man type who had lived for years with the Indians. The above-mentioned young man is Carwell's son. Seeing the coming end of the Indian way of life, Carswell wishes to return to white society, and bring his son with him. The young man does not wish to do this, and he points out that he will not be accepted by the whites, a point which is dramatized in a scene where father and son visit the wagon train and are ridiculed by some of the immigrants in the train.

I also learned something about my idol Robert Horton that I didn't know: he was a redhead. On black and white film, he looks brunet to me. This episodes features a sequence where a barechested Horton is tied down spread-eagled in sun and left to die. Whitmore rescues him.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 30, 2014, 04:25:51 PM
I'm always behind the times.  :-\

I learned today, that Patricia Blair, who played Rebecca Boone to Fess Parker's Daniel Boone in my favorite childhood TV show, passed away in September of 2013 at the age of 80.

So "Dan'l" and "Becky" are both gone now.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on June 30, 2014, 04:31:45 PM
I'm sure Darby Hinton and I know Veronica Cartwright are still with us, Jeff.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on June 30, 2014, 04:35:45 PM
When i think of James Whitmore, I think of Shawshank, what an amazing role for him!


As for Patricia:



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I truly am obsessed with Rifleman and I can't tell you why!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 01, 2014, 07:26:36 AM
When i think of James Whitmore, I think of Shawshank, what an amazing role for him!

Never saw Shawshank, but I'll never forget James Whitmore in the one-man shows Will Rogers Tonight and Give 'Em Hell, Harry (as President Harry S Truman). He was a really great character actor. I don't think they make 'em like that anymore.


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As for Patricia:



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It seems very, very odd to me that I never knew Patricia Blair did a role on The Rifleman. Now I'd really like to see her Rifleman episodes. I really only knew her as Rebecca Boone. But it wouldn't surprise me if her role on The Rifleman is what gave somebody the idea to offer her the role of Rebecca. Something I read yesterday described her Rifleman character as "spunky," and you could say the same about Rebecca, at least in the early years of Daniel Boone. By the later seasons she was often not much more than a walk-on--walk on at the beginning, send Daniel and this then-current sidekick off on some adventure, and walk on again at the end of the episode.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 01, 2014, 07:37:17 AM
I'm sure Darby Hinton and I know Veronica Cartwright are still with us, Jeff.

Patricia Blair's obituary from The New York Times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/01/arts/television/patricia-blair-dies-at-80-starred-in-televisions-rifleman.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/01/arts/television/patricia-blair-dies-at-80-starred-in-televisions-rifleman.html?_r=0)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on July 01, 2014, 11:27:16 AM
Never saw Shawshank, but I'll never forget James Whitmore in the one-man shows Will Rogers Tonight and Give 'Em Hell, Harry (as President Harry S Truman). He was a really great character actor. I don't think they make 'em like that anymore.


It seems very, very odd to me that I never knew Patricia Blair did a role on The Rifleman. Now I'd really like to see her Rifleman episodes. I really only knew her as Rebecca Boone. But it wouldn't surprise me if her role on The Rifleman is what gave somebody the idea to offer her the role of Rebecca. Something I read yesterday described her Rifleman character as "spunky," and you could say the same about Rebecca, at least in the early years of Daniel Boone. By the later seasons she was often not much more than a walk-on--walk on at the beginning, send Daniel and this then-current sidekick off on some adventure, and walk on again at the end of the episode.


She was in 22 episodes apparently!


Television

    "The Dennis O'Keefe Show", 1 episode (10 May 1960)
    The Bob Cummings Show, 1 episode (1957)
    The Rifleman, 22 episodes (1958–1963)
    Tramp Ship, pilot (1961)
    The Virginian, 1 episode (1963)
    Perry Mason, 1 episode (1963)
    Bonanza, 1 episode (1964)
    Daniel Boone, 46 episodes (1964–1970)


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 01, 2014, 01:23:52 PM
Television

    "The Dennis O'Keefe Show", 1 episode (10 May 1960)
    The Bob Cummings Show, 1 episode (1957)
    The Rifleman, 22 episodes (1958–1963)
    Tramp Ship, pilot (1961)
    The Virginian, 1 episode (1963)
    Perry Mason, 1 episode (1963)
    Bonanza, 1 episode (1964)
    Daniel Boone, 46 episodes (1964–1970)

That episode count for Patricia Blair for Daniel Boone seems low to me, given that she was on the show for its entire six-season run. Some time I'd like to look into that, starting with how many episodes the Boone show did a season (I'll bet the number declined as the years passed). One reason why I prefer the first two seasons of the series is because you saw a lot more of Rebecca, Jemima, and Israel than in subsequent seasons (of course, Jemima disappeared after Season 2).
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 02, 2014, 09:30:17 AM
That episode count for Patricia Blair for Daniel Boone seems low to me, given that she was on the show for its entire six-season run. Some time I'd like to look into that, starting with how many episodes the Boone show did a season (I'll bet the number declined as the years passed). One reason why I prefer the first two seasons of the series is because you saw a lot more of Rebecca, Jemima, and Israel than in subsequent seasons (of course, Jemima disappeared after Season 2).

IMDb gives 118 as the Daniel Boone episode count for Patricia Blair, and that seems "more like it" to me.

Later yesterday I located an on-line episode guide to Daniel Boone; unfortunately, it only lists the "guests" who appeared in each episode, and not the "regulars." I might add that whoever wrote the episode descriptions was a bit sarcastic and sometimes downright vulgar in my opinion. There was one sarcastic reference to Perry Mason and Matlock not going back in time, and I noticed several descriptions of characters as "assclowns," whatever that is.

The episode descriptions at IMDb appear to list the "regulars" as well as the "guests" who appeared in each episode.

I am still somewhat in mourning for Patricia Blair. Had I known she was living relatively close to me, I would have attempted to locate an address and sent her a fan letter--and I hope she would have appreciated that. I can remember to this day always feeling a little bit let down if Rebecca did not appear in a particular Daniel Boone episode.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on July 03, 2014, 08:56:31 AM
Bob Hastings, best known for his role in the 1960s sitcom McHale's Navy, has died at 89.

Allison Knowles says her grandfather died Monday in his Burbank, California, home.

Hastings won fans on McHale's Navy as Lt. Carpenter, a bumbling yes-man. Other memorable roles were on All in the Family and General Hospital.

The Brooklyn-born Hastings began his career at age 11 on radio dramas.

He branched into TV in its infancy, snagging a role on Captain Video and His Video Rangers in 1949.

Other early acting jobs included a recurring role on the military comedy The Phil Silvers Show.

Later TV appearances included Ironside, The Dukes of Hazzard, Major Dad and Murder, She Wrote.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2678159/McHales-Navy-star-Bob-Hastings-dies-age-89.html#ixzz36Pwnppz5
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: carew28 on July 05, 2014, 12:43:57 PM
Well, here's a show I missed completely: The Quest.

It's only half-season was the fall of 1976. That was my first semester of college, and I wasn't watching too much television right then. Plus, I'd say it was doomed from the start, as a Western scheduled opposite Charlie's Angels.

But--holy smokes!--it had Kurt Russel and Tim Matheson as the stars!


I remember The Quest. I always hoped that in some episode Kurt and Tim would get into a fight, and have a wrestling match. Maybe if it had lasted longer on the air, they would have.  Actually, that would have been a prime topic for some fanfiction.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 06, 2014, 01:42:13 PM
Bob Hastings, best known for his role in the 1960s sitcom McHale's Navy, has died at 89.


There's a face I saw countless times on television, but I don't know that I ever knew his name.  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on July 07, 2014, 02:46:52 PM
I know me too, it was like "I know that guy"!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 16, 2014, 07:37:50 AM
Word of advice: Do not go searching for your favorite old cartoons on Youtube late in the evening. You just might find them, and then you'll never get to bed at a decent hour.  8)  :P
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on July 17, 2014, 10:02:34 AM
Word of advice: Do not go searching for your favorite old cartoons on Youtube late in the evening. You just might find them, and then you'll never get to bed at a decent hour.  8)  :P
its called the youtube rabbit hole, and i am disastrously familiar with it.  tonight it was the 8 part special on the huge tsunami covering the south pacific, narrated largely by eyewitnesses and using almost exclusively their photography of the events.  maybe its because i have lived coastally for much of my life, but the ignorance about tsunami, and especially what it means when the tide suddenly goes WAY out, was startling.  it can also happen hopping from one dance routine to another.  i don't have to look for them, they come after me...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 17, 2014, 10:34:17 AM
its called the youtube rabbit hole, and i am disastrously familiar with it.

I can say the same.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 17, 2014, 10:45:41 AM
i don't have to look for them, they come after me...

I am beginning to get that feeling, too, but, if I may say so, it's comforting to know my experience is not unique.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on July 17, 2014, 03:57:04 PM
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Elaine Stritch – a showbiz survivor who at last became a household name in her 80s when she played Colleen Donaghy, the harridan mother of Alec Baldwin's Jack Donaghy, on TV's 30 Rock – died on Thursday at her home in Birmingham, Michigan, reports The New York Times. She was 89.




Only last year, in failing health, she left New York to return to her home state of Michigan to be near relatives, though in the days leading up to her departure from her luxury Carlyle Hotel residence, The Times chronicled her nearly every hiccup – she was such a fixture of the city. As it was, the newspaper noted, in 2003 the New York Landmarks Conservancy had declared her a Living Landmark.

And, just like the city, she was every bit as iconoclastic and unforgiving, to say nothing of boisterous. She was also nearly as famous for the roles she didn't keep as for the ones she did.




Stritch was the first Trixie when Jackie Gleason's The Honeymooners was about to launch (he fired her before airtime), and, years later, she claimed in her 2003 one-woman Broadway show, Elaine Stritch at Liberty, she blew her audition for a new NBC sitcom by dropping an expletive.

The role, that of Dorothy Zbornak on Golden Girls, instead went to Beatrice Arthur.





Broadway Baby

With a voice that was once compared to a car shifting gears without the clutch – and a presence likened to Godzilla in a stalled elevator – Stritch may have been an unlikely Broadway musical star, yet early in her career she understudied for the inimitable Ethel Merman in 1950's Call Me Madam.




In her own right – admittedly, there were dry periods – she went on to star in a 1952 revival of Pal Joey, Noël Coward's 1961 Sail Away, and the landmark 1970 Company, for which she copped a Tony and delivered her own signature song, Stephen Sondheim's paean to Manhattan's jaded upper crust, "The Ladies Who Lunch."

A strict Catholic, as well as the youngest of three girls and the only one to enter show business, Stritch spent 12 years at the Sacred Heart Catholic Girls School, and when she first came to New York, in 1944, she lived in a convent while taking drama classes.

"Let me tell you about those convents," she told PEOPLE in 1988, when she was kicking up dust playing a movie-star mother in Woody Allen's September. "Convent schools teach you to play against everything, which is what I'm still doing."





Married and Widowed

While studying acting at the New School in New York, she dated fellow student Marlon Brando, who "walked into a room and it was knockout time."

Stritch nearly married two other actors, Ben Gazzara and Gig Young, but, she admitted to PEOPLE, "I couldn't bring myself to marry outside the Catholic Church or tie the knot with a divorced man."




While in London in 1973, Stritch – then 47 – married American-born actor John Bay, then 45. It was his first marriage, too. "The word that applies to John is sweet," said Stritch, who, in 1982, the same year the couple returned to live in the U.S., lost him to a brain tumor.

There also was another love in her life: the bottle, despite finally having to go dry because of her diabetes. "Sure, I've gone on with a few drinks under my belt," she also told PEOPLE, "but I've always gone on."

No doubt, the same will hold true for her in the afterlife.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 17, 2014, 04:41:48 PM
I hope they dim the lights of Broadway for her. R.I.P.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on July 17, 2014, 10:48:07 PM
Word of advice: Do not go searching for your favorite old cartoons on Youtube late in the evening. You just might find them, and then you'll never get to bed at a decent hour.  8)  :P

So very true!! However, I have discovered some amazing performers in my travels though YouTube!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 20, 2014, 01:15:56 PM
Adios, Brett Maverick.

So long, Jim Rockford.

James Garner, 1928--2014.

 :'(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on July 20, 2014, 01:19:59 PM
He really needs to be in two threads doesn't he?  :-\


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Such a handsome man.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on August 08, 2014, 07:36:14 AM
I loved Garner, and not just on a visceral level.

He will be very much missed.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 08, 2014, 01:15:28 PM
Since I couldn't get into the movie on TCM last night, I watched another episode of Wagon Train instead. Debra Paget was the principal guest star. I'd never seen her as a blonde before--I almost didn't recognize her, and I like her better as a brunette. Nick Adams--before The Rebel--was a sort of second-tier guest star.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on August 14, 2014, 05:10:00 PM
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Los Angeles (CNN) -- Actress Arlene Martel, who "Star Trek" fans know as Spock's bride-to-be, died in a Los Angeles hospital Tuesday of complications from a heart attack, her son said. Martel was 78.

Martel's ethnic ambiguity earned her the nickname "The Chameleon" among Hollywood casting directors in the 1960s, son Jod Kaftan told CNN.

It gained her diverse roles, including as a Russian spy on "The Monkees" and "I Dream of Jeannie," a French Underground operative in "Hogan's Heroes," a Native American woman in a "Gunsmoke" episode and as a Vulcan on "Star Trek."

Trekkies still lined up at sci-fi conventions to meet Martel and pay for autographs because of her role as T'Pring, the Vulcan priestess engaged to Spock in the first episode of the iconic show's second season.

Leonard Nimoy, who was the original Spock, tweeted his tribute to her: "Saying goodbye to T'Pring, Arlene Martel. A lovely talent."

Martel is also known for two former boyfriends. She was one of James Dean's girlfriends in New York before he became a star, Kaftan said. She also dated actor Cary Grant for a time, he said.

Her acting career began on Broadway when she was a teenager. She was cast as Esther in the 1956 production of "Uncle Willie." She was still using her birth name Arline Sax for her credits then.

Her television career started in 1959 with a move to Hollywood. She soon landed guest roles on hit shows, including "Twilight Zone," "Death Valley Days," and "Have Gun -- Will Travel."

Although the roles slowed down over the decades, Martel always considered herself a working actress.

"She was still getting out there, doing roles," Kaftan said. "She had a lot of big dreams she was still pursuing."

Although battling cancer over the past five years, she still traveled around the world to conventions where "Star Trek" fans gathered.

Her son said it was an odd experience for him to go with her because "guys would have a crush on your mom because she's a sci-fi babe from the '60s."



http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/14/showbiz/obit-star-trek-arlene-martel/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 15, 2014, 07:24:03 AM
I think I saw the final episode of Magnum, P.I., last night.

I say think because, for whatever reason, I do remember that by the time the show ended its run, I was no longer watching regularly; I have no memory of why that was the case, I just remember that I was no longer watching regularly. Perhaps it was no longer in its original time slot when it ended its run?

But anyway, the episode had all the earmarks of a final episode. The title was "Resolutions," and all sorts of things were wrapped up. Higgins confessed to being Robin Masters (though he took it back at the very end). Rick was getting married. T.C., apparently, was reconciled with his wife. And Magnum was united with little Lily Catherine, his daughter by Michelle, and rejoined the Navy. And at the very, very end, Magnum, in uniform, turned to face the camera, said, "Good night," and clicked off a TV remote.

Unfortunately for me, Cozi-TV ran that episode in the 11 p.m. time slot, so it was midnight before I even started to get ready for bed.  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 27, 2014, 07:49:14 AM
In Antenna-TV's run of Bewitched! we have now moved from Darrin I to Darrin II. On Monday evening the first episode was Darrin I and the second episode was Darrin II. We have also added Esmeralda to the cast.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 28, 2014, 10:03:39 AM
I stumbled onto a couple of episodes from the first season of F Troop last night. In the first episode, Paul Petersen was the guest star. In the second episode the guest star was Jeannette Nolan (as Capt. Parmenter's mother).

Meanwhile, little Adam Stevens was born last night on Bewitched! From that episode, I always remembered Darrin saying incredulously to Maurice, "Adam was your great-grandfather?!" and Maurice's reply, "Not that Adam!"   :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on August 28, 2014, 04:17:57 PM
Idea for a drinking game--take a shot every time Dick Sargent purses his lips.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 28, 2014, 06:33:43 PM
Well, this was an interesting stroke.

Jeopardy! was pre-empted here this evening for a preseason football game.  >:(  ::)

So I checked out what was on Antenna-TV and found myself watching the debut episode of I Dream of Jeannie.  :D It was followed by what was probably the second episode. The shows are in glorious black and white, and I suppose when they first aired they may have been after my bedtime. I don't even remember seeing them in syndicated rerun.

(I'm skipping Bewitched! this evening in order to watch an episode of Sleepy Hollow to prepare for the season opener later next month. I think Tom Mison looks really handsome with that beard. And I love his boots. ...  ::))
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on September 04, 2014, 07:02:24 AM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on September 04, 2014, 07:03:41 AM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on September 04, 2014, 07:04:20 AM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on September 04, 2014, 07:05:47 AM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on September 04, 2014, 07:26:33 AM
Happy Birthday, Dick York.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 04, 2014, 10:08:01 AM

Who's the woman in the center at the bottom of this pic?
Doesn't look like EM to me.


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on September 04, 2014, 11:42:04 AM
I can't see any of bubba's pictures. What gives?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 04, 2014, 12:29:39 PM
I had to look at the links and paste them in. My computer is such that
I thought it might be just me, but they weren't coming up for me, either.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Sara B on September 04, 2014, 12:46:46 PM
Nor for me.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on September 04, 2014, 02:12:07 PM
What are they, bubba?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 12, 2014, 10:24:56 AM
Who's the woman in the center at the bottom of this pic?
Doesn't look like EM to me.

I'm behind on these threads as I was away from 9/4 through 9/10. I'll try to remember to check if I can see the pics at home tonight. I can't see them here at the office.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 12, 2014, 07:20:24 PM
I'm behind on these threads as I was away from 9/4 through 9/10. I'll try to remember to check if I can see the pics at home tonight. I can't see them here at the office.

They don"t show up here at home, either.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 13, 2014, 11:16:59 AM

The way I looked at them was copying the link from the posts and
then puting it in a separate window and they came up. I guess the
site doesn't allow hotlinking. Otherwise, they don't show up for me,
either.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on September 13, 2014, 11:24:31 AM
Maybe Endora zapped them off.

SAM!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 13, 2014, 01:40:36 PM
Maybe Endora zapped them off.

SAM!

Or maybe Aunt Clara.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 17, 2014, 07:12:44 AM
This morning the Today show was observing the 50th anniversary (  :o ) of the debut of Gilligan's Island.  :D

Dawn Wells (Mary Ann) was to be a guest, but I had to leave for work before she was interviewed.

This year--this month, I guess--is also the 50th anniversary of my childhood favorite, Daniel Boone.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 17, 2014, 10:17:25 AM

Even though one feels like they're not supposed to admit such a thing,
Gilligan's Island has always appealed to me for some reason. I often wonder
if I had come to it as an adult if I'd have felt the same way about it. When
I was young I really liked anything slapstick and Gilligan's Island always had
a lot of that. So did Jerry Lewis movies. And one has to admit the setting
was unique to ANY television program. I happened to come by an episode
on Me-TV last night and discovered that they are showing the first season
episodes that were colorized. So, fifty years later I am seeing it in a new way!
Fifty years! I didn't know abou the Today Show thing, I would've tuned in.
Good for Dawn Wells for embracing it. One wonders if Tina Louise would've
been happier had she chosen to embrace it all these years instead of resisting.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 17, 2014, 10:21:10 AM
This year--this month, I guess--is also the 50th anniversary of:[/i]

  Bewitched
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 17, 2014, 10:32:03 AM
I looked up some other notables debuting that year:

The Addams Family
Another World
Flipper
Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C.
The Hollywood Palace
Jeopardy!
Jonny Quest
The Man from U.N.C.L.E.
Many Happy Returns
The Munsters
My Living Doll
No Time for Sergeants
Peyton Place
Shenanigans (game show)
Shindig!
Twelve O'Clock High
Underdog
Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea


And some I vaguely remember:

The Adventures of Robinson Crusoe
The Baileys of Balboa
The Famous Adventures of Mr. Magoo
Kentucky Jones
The Rogues
Slattery's People

And one I wonder what it was about:   :D

A Flame in the Wind

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 17, 2014, 12:06:15 PM
I looked up some other notables debuting that year:

That was quite a year!

Quote
The Addams FamilyX
Another World
FlipperX
Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C.X
The Hollywood PalaceX
Jeopardy!X
Jonny Quest
The Man from U.N.C.L.E.
Many Happy Returns
The Munsters
My Living DollX
No Time for Sergeants
Peyton Place
Shenanigans (game show)
Shindig!X
Twelve O'Clock High
UnderdogX
Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea

X = shows I remember we watched in our home


Quote
And some I vaguely remember:

The Adventures of Robinson Crusoe
The Baileys of Balboa
The Famous Adventures of Mr. MagooX
Kentucky JonesX
The Rogues
Slattery's People

And one I wonder what ir was about:   :D

A Flame in the Wind

Of course, Mr. Magoo was voiced by Jim Backus, and I well remember Kentucky Jones because it starred Dennis Weaver, and I always liked him. He played a veterinarian who had custody of (adopted?) an Asian orphan named Dwight D. Eisenhower Wong.

How can you forget a name like Dwight D. Eisenhower Wong?  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 17, 2014, 01:34:13 PM
Of course, Mr. Magoo was voiced by Jim Backus, and I well remember Kentucky Jones because it starred Dennis Weaver, and I always liked him. He played a veterinarian who had custody of (adopted?) an Asian orphan named Dwight D. Eisenhower Wong.

How can you forget a name like Dwight D. Eisenhower Wong?  :D

Interestingly, both Kentucky Jones and Gilligan's Island premiered opposite each other on Saturday
nights at 8:30  Though I admitted I love Gilligan's Island, my young self chose to watch Kentucky Jones
over G.I. for awhile, which is why I probably remember it. I have to confess I didn't remember that name
(D.D.E. Wong) though! I wonder if the title character was any relation to Indiana Jones? Heh!

I thought Kentucky Jones only was on half a season, but the net says they did 26 episodes,
though Gilligan's Island did 36 the first season. A little other info: It says that he owned a
ranch in Southern California, and got his nickname "Kentucky" from the way he signed his
name "K.Y. Jones."  (?-LOL!)  Harry Morgan was also in the show as Seldom Jackson. Seldom?
I guess because Gilligan was doing so well they changed the time period to 8:00 p.m. after half
a season. It was considered a comedy-drama.

The boy was played by Ricky Der. IMDB says he did a Tarzan movie, this series, then one episode of
Mickey (Mickey Rooney's series) and then three episodes of I, Spy and that was it, on imdb at least.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 17, 2014, 01:38:21 PM
(http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/1965/medium/kentucky1667447.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on October 15, 2014, 04:37:11 PM
http://life.time.com/icons/lucille-ball-rare-photos-of-a-comedy-icon/#1


I Love Lucy - 63 years - check out the rare pics of Lucille Ball


and a few of Desi, coolest guy ever!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on October 27, 2014, 12:27:35 PM
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LOS ANGELES –  Marcia Strassman, who played Gabe Kaplan's wife, Julie, on the 1970s sitcom "Welcome Back, Kotter," has died. She was 66.

Strassman died at her Sherman Oaks, California, home on Friday after battling breast cancer for seven years, her sister, Julie Strassman, said Sunday.

"They gave her 2 1/2 years to live but she lasted much longer," she said. "She was very courageous."

Strassman had numerous roles on television and in film during her five-decade career.

She played nurse Margie Cutler on the first season of "MASH" before her breakout role in "Welcome Back, Kotter." The show was about a teacher returning to the tough high-school of his youth to teach a classroom full of misfits, including future movie star John Travolta.

She also played Rick Moranis's wife in the Disney hit movie "Honey I Shrunk The Kids" and its sequel, "Honey I Blew Up The Kid."

Born on April 28, 1948 in New York City, Strassman began acting as a teen, replacing Liza Minelli in the off-Broadway musical "Best Foot Forward. She moved to Los Angeles at 18 and landed a steady stream of roles.

She was a member of the Screen Actors Guild national board, and was an active fundraiser for breast cancer research and other social causes, her sister Julie said.

Strassman is also survived by a daughter and a brother.

Plans for funeral services are pending.

 :'( :'(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on November 07, 2014, 02:43:00 PM
Jan-Michael Vincent, the 80s pin-up who made his name in iconic surf movie ‘Big Wednesday’, has revealed that he’s had to have most of his right leg amputated and now he’s struggling to keep a roof over his head.


Vincent, now 70, was once the highest-paid actor on TV, earning $200,000 per episode playing pilot Stringfellow Hawke in the hit series ‘Airwolf’.


But following decades battling alcohol and drug problems, which saw his acting career slowly dry up, he is now a shadow of his former self.

Beset by misfortune, Vincent’s health problems began in 1996 following a car crash in which he broke three vertebrae in his neck and permanently damaged his vocal chords, leaving him with a rasping voice....

https://ca.movies.yahoo.com/news/80s-heartthrob-jan-michael-vincent-reveals-leg-amputation-following-years-of-drug-and-alcohol-problems-155323304.html?cache=clear


I loved him in Airwolf, heck I just loved him period.     These pictures are hard to look at, you can't even believe that his him.






Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bentgyro on November 07, 2014, 03:05:37 PM
I remember him in Airwolf and I thought he was a hunk, too.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on November 08, 2014, 10:27:14 AM
Jan-Michael Vincent, the 80s pin-up who made his name in iconic surf movie ‘Big Wednesday’, has revealed that he’s had to have most of his right leg amputated and now he’s struggling to keep a roof over his head.

I loved him in Airwolf, heck I just loved him period.     These pictures are hard to look at, you can't even believe that his him.
alcoholism will do that to you.  his drug use was primarily in service to his drinking.  it is terrible when you have too much money to hit a bottom soon enough to be able to do something about it.  i doubt he is a "recovering" alcoholic, more like a bitter alcoholic with a wife who tries to keep him off the sauce.  i never rose to his heights, but thank god i didn't have to reach his depths.  he is my age.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 08, 2014, 12:36:10 PM

I remember him from the late 1960's on TV series like Lassie and The Banana Splits, if you recall that! He guested on a lot of series then. He made a huge splash in the TV movie Tribes, an anti-war film made when Vietnam was at fever pitch.

That film led to some more successful TV films which led to some movie roles in the 1970's. These usually were kind of low budget (but successful) action-type films, but he also did a Disney comedy. He did some really popular films that were the Nicholas Sparks films of their day...Buster and Billie and Baby Blue Marine (which was Richard Gere's first role in a film, too) were the most popular. Don't you love the title Baby Blue Marine!

The 80's brought him to TV again in the Winds of War miniseries and Airwolf.

It always seemed that he was on the verge of being a superstar, but
it never took off and finally fizzled out. Then his youthful looks and
boyish charm turned harsh and rugged.

At whatever level, he still kept on working and getting parts in things here and there
up until about ten years ago. I admire that he kept working despite decades battling
alcohol and drug problems
.  You wonder what might have been without that problem.
I hope he can find some way forward through these current difficulties.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 08, 2014, 12:42:02 PM
I remember him from the late 1960's on TV series like Lassie and The Banana Splits, if you recall that!


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 08, 2014, 12:43:26 PM
The Banana Splits with The Sour Grapes Girls.


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 08, 2014, 12:44:40 PM
^^^^^^

   LOL!

What was he doing on that show?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 08, 2014, 02:20:35 PM
^^^^^^

   LOL!

What was he doing on that show?

Danger Island is a live-action adventure serial produced by Hanna-Barbera and originally broadcast in 1968 as a segment on the Banana Splits Adventure Hour. It was filmed in Mexico and directed by future Superman, Goonies, and Lethal Weapon director Richard Donner and featured Jan-Michael Vincent as Lincoln 'Link' Simmons.

The series comprises a 3-hour adventure yarn broken down into 36 short chapters. Each chapter is roughly five minutes long and includes a suspenseful cliffhanger ending that is resolved in the next installment.

Intended as a live-action version of the animated Hanna-Barbera series Jonny Quest, Danger Island depicted the adventures of a trio of explorers in an unnamed tropical island group: Prof. Irwin Hayden, an archaeologist; Lincoln "Link" Simmons, the professor's youthful assistant; and Leslie, the professor's daughter, who serves as both a love interest for Link and the series' token damsel-in-distress.

Several years earlier, the professor's brother (also an archaeologist) disappeared in the same island chain while searching for the mythical lost city of Tobanya. They are joined on their quest by Morgan, a shipwrecked merchant mariner, and his teenage sidekick Chongo, who speaks only in a series of monkey-like chatters and birdcalls. They are pursued by a group of bumbling but heavily armed modern-day pirates led by the murderous Captain Mu-Tan, and by three tribes of cannibalistic natives known as "the Headhunters", "the Skeleton Men" and "the Ash Men". The show spawned the popular catchphrase "Uh-oh, Chongo!" among children of that time.

Jan Michael Vincent (then acting under Michael Vincent) is the character to the far right.

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on November 08, 2014, 03:33:47 PM
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Baby Blue Marine, there is a blast from the past, I remember it well.  Look at him, he is prettier than she is!



As for the Banana Splits, I watched as a kid, now I will have that song stuck in my head all night!  :D


Jack nothing will age you like drinking, I  wonder what inner demons he may have been battelling.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 08, 2014, 10:05:03 PM
I'm very psyched about an item I won on ebay.

;D

I have all 8 seasons of Charmed on DVD already, and I found out that two boxed-sets were released.   The one I wanted was the Limited Deluxe Edition box set.

This set was created to be a replica of the sisters' Book of Shadows from the show. One page would have an illustration and spell, while another held the discs.  This set was released a while ago, and people now sell it on Ebay unopened for $500.00.

I couldn't justify spending that much on something that I basically already had (I purchased the DVDs one season at a time when they were released) plus, I intended to open it anyway, so why pay that much?

Just tonight, a few hours before the auction ended, I found someone selling this item, but the plastic wrap was removed, as the original buyer opened. The seller listed the condition as "like new/never played" and was selling it for $200.00.

That I could deal with, and I bid on it and won it about an hour ago.

;D


  (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/graphics/news3/Charmed_LE_int.jpg)


One fan uploaded a video of his copy to YouTube, it's about 3 minutes long, but he goes through page py page to show it off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RThZ4do03Nc
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on November 09, 2014, 12:02:51 AM
Congrats on getting the set, Chuck!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on November 09, 2014, 05:57:25 AM
I really liked the movie Tribes, partially because I was in the Army studying Vietnamese at the time. Naturally I was rooting for the JMV character Adrian. And it didn't hurt that he was such a hunk, too!

Even though it was a TV movie, it was shown on base in the local theater.

Saw it a number of times later over the years on TV.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 09, 2014, 09:53:54 AM

It was released on video (VHS) in the 80's, too, Fritz, that's where I saw it!
It won three emmys that year as well, one for the screenplay.

____________

Chuck, that's great that you got that boxed set. Isn't it so much fun to
get something that means something to you and just makes you happy!


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 09, 2014, 04:10:31 PM
Danger Island is a live-action adventure serial produced by Hanna-Barbera and originally broadcast in 1968 as a segment on the Banana Splits Adventure Hour. It was filmed in Mexico and directed by future Superman, Goonies, and Lethal Weapon director Richard Donner and featured Jan-Michael Vincent as Lincoln 'Link' Simmons.

The series comprises a 3-hour adventure yarn broken down into 36 short chapters. Each chapter is roughly five minutes long and includes a suspenseful cliffhanger ending that is resolved in the next installment.

Intended as a live-action version of the animated Hanna-Barbera series Jonny Quest, Danger Island depicted the adventures of a trio of explorers in an unnamed tropical island group: Prof. Irwin Hayden, an archaeologist; Lincoln "Link" Simmons, the professor's youthful assistant; and Leslie, the professor's daughter, who serves as both a love interest for Link and the series' token damsel-in-distress.

Several years earlier, the professor's brother (also an archaeologist) disappeared in the same island chain while searching for the mythical lost city of Tobanya. They are joined on their quest by Morgan, a shipwrecked merchant mariner, and his teenage sidekick Chongo, who speaks only in a series of monkey-like chatters and birdcalls. They are pursued by a group of bumbling but heavily armed modern-day pirates led by the murderous Captain Mu-Tan, and by three tribes of cannibalistic natives known as "the Headhunters", "the Skeleton Men" and "the Ash Men". The show spawned the popular catchphrase "Uh-oh, Chongo!" among children of that time.

Jan Michael Vincent (then acting under Michael Vincent) is the character to the far right.

(http://i327.photobucket.com/albums/k463/dcfmod/32.jpg)

I'm very sorry to hear of what's become of Jan-Michael Vincent. I was never particularly a fan--never watched Airwolf, never saw Baby Blue Marine or Tribes--but it's still sad to hear about his situation.

On the other hand--God help me!--I well remember The Banana Splits' Adventure Hour. I never missed it! I was age 10-11-ish when it broadcast. If you look at the photo, the bearded Prof. Hayden was played by the well-known TV actor Frank Aletter. Leslie was played by Ronnie Troup. if I remember correctly. I wonder whatever happened to Morgan?  ???

I never particularly cared for Danger Island. My favorite part of the show was the cartoon version of The Three Musketeers.  ::) Now, that's something I wish I had on video!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 22, 2014, 11:18:43 AM
I was checking out the nostalgia channels this afternoon, and there, on ME-TV, was a young Richard Dreyfus on an episode of The Big Valley.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 22, 2014, 12:03:37 PM

Jeff, I happened to see that episode last year! Not only was he in it, the episode revolved
around him, he was the star of it! Who knew he was practicing his thespian skills with Miss
Barbara Stanwyck at the tender age of 19! The same year this episode aired he had a minute
appearance in The Graduate!

Like others, he was on several TV series before his film career took off including Peyton Place,
Gidget, That Girl, Bewitched, and this one, The Big Valley.  Interestingly, he and Sally Field were
on Gidget and a little over ten years later they both won oscars for lead acting! (Something Miss
Barbara Stanwyck didn't do!)
__________________

EVEN MORE SURPRISING:

I found an interesting item that I did not know when I looked up something for my above paragraphs.

This was dated 2010:

20th Century Fox's feature film The Big Valley is scheduled to begin principal photography July 5th. It looks as if Richard Dreyfuss, Susan Sarandon, Ryan Philippe and Billy Bob Thornton are mounting up and heading to Baton Rouge this summer to shoot 20th Century Fox's big-screen reimagining of the classic TV Western.

So I wondered what happened to it, as it's several years later, and I saw this from 2012:

‘BIG VALLEY’ DELAYED BY DIRECTOR’S LEGAL NIGHTMARE

The BIG VALLEY feature was announced back in 2010.  We’ve followed through cast changes – from Susan Sarandon to Jessica Lange in Barbara Stanwyck’s role as matriarch Victoria Barkley.  We gleefully reported when Lee Majors, Heath from the original series, was cast to play his own father, Tom Barkley, in the feature. A cast was assembled, cameras rolled, and a large portion of the script (I don't know how much) was shot.  Then production shut down, and getting further information proved impossible for months.

The problem, it turns out, was with director and co-writer Daniel Adams.  Among his previous credits, he wrote and directed two films, one with Richard Dreyfus, both filmed in Massachusetts.  As an incentive to filmmakers, that state offers a 25% tax credit for payroll and other filmmaking costs.  Adams has been tried and convicted of overstating his expenses, as a result receiving an overpayment of $4,377,000.  For example, he claimed to have paid Richard Dreyfus $2.5 million for his role, when the actual fee was $400,000.  Adams has been sentenced to 2 to 3 years in prison, plus ten years probation, plus restitution of the nearly four and a half million dollars.

YIKES!

That article went on to say that one of the producers, a woman related to the original series producer,
was trying to salvage the film after these events occurred. I haven't found any other info later than
the 2012 date, though.

If they went through with that initial filming there's a lot of footage out there.
Hmmm. What a mess, it seems.

Good news:
As of last month, all seasons of this series are available on DVD.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 22, 2014, 02:06:50 PM
Jeff, I happened to see that episode last year! Not only was he in it, the episode revolved
around him, he was the star of it! Who knew he was practicing his thespian skills with Miss
Barbara Stanwyck at the tender age of 19! The same year this episode aired he had a minute
appearance in The Graduate!

Like others, he was on several TV series before his film career took off including Peyton Place,
Gidget, That Girl, Bewitched, and this one, The Big Valley.  Interestingly, he and Sally Field were
on Gidget and a little over ten years later they both won oscars for lead acting! (Something Miss
Barbara Stanwyck didn't do!)

Geez! Dreyfuss was only 19 when that episode was filmed? Holy cow! I didn't see all of it, but from what I did see, it was clear the story revolved around him.

Imagine--Sally Field went from Gidget--and The Flying Nun!--to Best Actress Oscar!  :D

Quote
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EVEN MORE SURPRISING:

I found an interesting item that I did not know when I looked up something for my above paragraphs.

This was dated 2010:

20th Century Fox's feature film The Big Valley is scheduled to begin principal photography July 5th. It looks as if Richard Dreyfuss, Susan Sarandon, Ryan Philippe and Billy Bob Thornton are mounting up and heading to Baton Rouge this summer to shoot 20th Century Fox's big-screen reimagining of the classic TV Western.

So I wondered what happened to it, as it's several years later, and I saw this from 2012:

‘BIG VALLEY’ DELAYED BY DIRECTOR’S LEGAL NIGHTMARE

The BIG VALLEY feature was announced back in 2010.  We’ve followed through cast changes – from Susan Sarandon to Jessica Lange in Barbara Stanwyck’s role as matriarch Victoria Barkley.  We gleefully reported when Lee Majors, Heath from the original series, was cast to play his own father, Tom Barkley, in the feature. A cast was assembled, cameras rolled, and a large portion of the script (I don't know how much) was shot.  Then production shut down, and getting further information proved impossible for months.

The problem, it turns out, was with director and co-writer Daniel Adams.  Among his previous credits, he wrote and directed two films, one with Richard Dreyfus, both filmed in Massachusetts.  As an incentive to filmmakers, that state offers a 25% tax credit for payroll and other filmmaking costs.  Adams has been tried and convicted of overstating his expenses, as a result receiving an overpayment of $4,377,000.  For example, he claimed to have paid Richard Dreyfus $2.5 million for his role, when the actual fee was $400,000.  Adams has been sentenced to 2 to 3 years in prison, plus ten years probation, plus restitution of the nearly four and a half million dollars.

YIKES!

That article went on to say that one of the producers, a woman related to the original series producer,
was trying to salvage the film after these events occurred. I haven't found any other info later than
the 2012 date, though.

If they went through with that initial filming there's a lot of footage out there.
Hmmm. What a mess, it seems.

Good news:
As of last month, all seasons of this series are available on DVD.

Wow. That's quite a story. I hope the film wasn't some ridiculous parody of the original. I wonder whether it will ever see the light of day?  ???
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on November 22, 2014, 04:46:11 PM
Yea you almost want to say you hope it doesn't see the light of day, sometimes (most of the time) you can't go back again!

(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100528153543/doblaje/es/images/d/da/MacGyver.jpg)


Anyone remember this guy?   And maybe we even mentioned him before, I don't remember.

I use to love that show.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGyver


MacGyver staring Richard Dean Anderson, Henry Winkler
John Rich, producers.



 On October 16, 2007, CBS DVD released MacGyver: The Complete Series, a special collectors' edition box set that features all 139 episodes of the series as well as the two TV movies that followed.


 :o


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 22, 2014, 06:26:18 PM
I never watched MacGyver, and now I have no idea why I didn't.  ???

Certainly Richard Dean Anderson was hot.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 23, 2014, 12:04:01 PM

I didn't watch most any show that ABC aired from 8-9pm Mondays, because
that's when they aired them in the Eastern and Central times zones, followed by
Monday Night Football. In Los Angeles that meant the football game started at
6pm and whatever the 8-9pm show was would be aired anywhere from 9pm-11pm.
Meaning a lot less interest in searching it out or finding it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on November 23, 2014, 12:13:14 PM
From that same link:

After a slow start in its first season, MacGyver became a sleeper hit for ABC in its second season, during which it began a six-year run as the lead-in to ABC's Monday Night Football (the longest such run in history).
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 23, 2014, 12:34:33 PM
I never watched MacGyver, and now I have no idea why I didn't.  ???

Hmm. I just used the link to check the years the show ran, and for most of its run, I had club meetings the first and third Monday evenings of the month (I still do, as a matter of fact), and when I was an officer, the executive committee met on the second Monday of the month, so that's three Mondays out of the month I was doing something else when the show was on.

I can't account for the fourth Monday.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 28, 2014, 02:09:47 PM
I stumbled on a Christmas episode of Gunsmoke earlier today. I believe it was called "Murry Christmas." The principal guests were those two old reliable character performers Jack Elam and Jeannette Nolan. The plot revolved around seven runaway orphans at Christmas time. I haven't done any research, but I'm pretty sure I recognized Jodie Foster as one of the orphans. I seem to remember she was a pretty busy child performer back in the day.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on November 28, 2014, 04:07:32 PM
I remember seeing this episode back in the day, Jeff. I am sure it was a rerun as I wouldn't remember the original showings. Not that I didn't see the original airings, I just don't remember that far back!! :P  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on November 28, 2014, 04:29:04 PM
I do remember watching Gunsmoke in its original run, it was one of my Dad's favorite shows.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 28, 2014, 06:37:46 PM
I remember seeing this episode back in the day, Jeff. I am sure it was a rerun as I wouldn't remember the original showings. Not that I didn't see the original airings, I just don't remember that far back!! :P  :D

This episode must have been from one of the later seasons, as Ken Curtis, as Festus, was Marshall Dillon's deputy, and the opening credits featured Buck Taylor as Newly, although he didn't appear in the episode.

I do remember watching the show on Monday nights when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on November 28, 2014, 06:56:07 PM
I even remember listening to it on Sunday nights on the car radio, as we would be returning from a day trip to the Mississippi Gulf Coast. Before the Interstates, that made the time past faster!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 29, 2014, 10:28:39 AM
I do remember watching the show on Monday nights when I was a kid.

I did some double checking just to verify my memory, and, indeed, Gunsmoke led off prime time on Monday evenings during my junior high and high school years. That was when I watched it.

Meanwhile, this morning I came in half way through one of the more memorable late episodes of Daniel Boone, a highly fictionalized account of how Tom Lincoln came to marry Nancy Hanks.

At the very end of the episode, Rebecca asks Daniel what was the name of Tom Lincoln's father, and Daniel replies, "Abraham. Abraham Lincoln."  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 29, 2014, 01:13:35 PM
Today I was watching the closing credits of The Big Valley, which are run over a still of a big house with four columns, presumably to represent the Barkley mansion; I'm not familiar enough with the show to know whether it actually is the Barkley mansion.

However, the house in the closing credits looked awfully familiar, and then it hit me: It's Tara!  :D  The columns in the picture are gray, but there is no mistaking the asymmetrical facade. That house in the closing credits of The Big Valley is Tara alright!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 29, 2014, 06:32:27 PM
Meanwhile, this morning I came in half way through one of the more memorable late episodes of Daniel Boone, a highly fictionalized account of how Tom Lincoln came to marry Nancy Hanks.

At the very end of the episode, Rebecca asks Daniel what was the name of Tom Lincoln's father, and Daniel replies, "Abraham. Abraham Lincoln."  :)

Actually, this turned out to be kind of an interesting day on Nostalgia TV for me.

When I learned of Patricia Blair's death, that was when I learned that before playing Rebecca Boone, she had a role on The Rifleman. So, after I caught part of the Daniel Boone episode with Patricia Blair this morning, this afternoon I stumbled into the episode of The Rifleman where Patricia's character first appeared. I then saw the second Rifleman episode with Patricia, where the guest star was ... Ed Ames, well known for playing Mingo on Daniel Boone.

So I almost feel that I've gone around in a circle in my nostalgia watching today.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on December 02, 2014, 02:21:34 AM
I do remember watching Gunsmoke in its original run, it was one of my Dad's favorite shows.
my father's too, and in my neck of the woods it was on opposite star trek, thus engendering many pouting fights.  that i never won.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 02, 2014, 10:46:35 AM

I cannot explain why, but the long running Gunsmoke never appealed to me.
In fact, of all the westerns (and there were dozens) that were on television
all those years, this one was at the bottom of my tastes. Since it was on for
so many years I have often wondered what the appeal of it was to so many.
That group of characters was not of much interest to me at all.

Fortunately, my father was not an admirer of it, either, or when it moved to
Mondays I'd not have been able to watch Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In which
delighted me for years!  (Still does on occasion!)

I can't believe you guys didn't watch Laugh-In!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 02, 2014, 11:32:53 AM

Speaking of Gunsmoke, sometimes when I watch an episode of Combat! that
Me-TV airs I look up some info on the website devoted to that series. Recently
I saw this bit of info:

It was about the fifth season episode titled, "The Furlough."

It says, "The hotel set in 'Gunsmoke' was used in filming as the upstairs/hallway of the orphanage."

That didn't make sense at first because I remember the credits of Combat! and they always
say, "Filmed at MGM Studios in Hollywood."

But I learned that the Combat! production company moved their base of operations from
MGM Studios to the old Republic Pictures studios which were then the CBS Studio Center,
in Studio City, starting with the fifth season (and last one) which was shot in color. Even
more confusing is that they still sometimes went back to the MGM lot to film episodes.
(Hollywood!) Although, I don't know why they moved. It was probably a money concern.

ABC was tanking in the mid-sixties. I learned that Combat! got canceled after season 5 because
in those days tv series were NOT syndicated until after they were canceled. ABC was worried
that the syndication rights to Combat! would diminish as time went on because less and less
stations would want to syndicate a program that had 4 seasons of b&w episodes. And, also,
because they needed the money, they canceled it after season 5 and took the syndication
money.

Combat! is still the most successful/longest running of the dramatic World War II series.
Another favorite of mine, 12 O'clock High (a Quinn-Martin production, lol), lasted three
seasons. (One also in color.)

Another interesting bit of info in that "Furlough" episode of Combat! concerning the
actors playing the orphans:

Christine Baranski (listed as Chris Charney) of "Cybil" and "The Good Wife" plays Paulette
and Jon Walmsley, of "The Waltons," plays Andrew.

Who knew?

Also, concerning Gunsmoke, in the first season of Gilligan's Island they did a flashback segment
where they did a western parody of Gunsmoke, it was all filmed on Gunsmoke sets at CBS Studio
Center, where Gilligan's Island also filmed.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 02, 2014, 11:34:24 AM
I cannot explain why, but the long running Gunsmoke never appealed to me.
In fact, of all the westerns (and there were dozens) that were on television
all those years, this one was at the bottom of my tastes. Since it was on for
so many years I have often wondered what the appeal of it was to so many.
That group of characters was not of much interest to me at all.

Fortunately, my father was not an admirer of it, either, or when it moved to
Mondays I'd not have been able to watch Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In which
delighted me for years!  (Still does on occasion!)

I can't believe you guys didn't watch Laugh-In!

Well, I can't explain it--it's all way too long ago for my poor memory--but I certainly did watch both shows. From the Wikipedia articles on both shows, it appears Gunsmoke outlasted Laugh-In by two seasons, so perhaps I only watched the last two seasons of Gunsmoke (1973-74, 1974-75) regularly--though I would swear I watched for longer than that (Laugh-In ended its run in the spring of 1973). I don't remember any conflict in the family over what to watch, or my parents forbidding Laugh-In. (In fact, Monday was my dad's bowling night, so he wasn't even home in the early evenings on Mondays.  :D ) Maybe I just got tired of Laugh-In.  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 02, 2014, 11:42:25 AM
Also, concerning Gunsmoke, in the first season of Gilligan's Island they did a flashback segment
where they did a western parody of Gunsmoke, it was all filmed on Gunsmoke sets at CBS Studio
Center, where Gilligan's Island also filmed.

Maverick did an episode that parodied Gunsmoke, too.

Over the past holiday weekend I caught a few minutes of another episode of Maverick, where Jack Kelly goes into some jail or sheriff's office or something-or-other, and the lawmen in the office are John Russell and Peter Brown of Lawman.

I should look up the original broadcast schedule of The Big Valley. I have no idea why we didn't watch that when I was a kid. I'm enjoying episodes of that show when I catch them on Me-TV.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on December 02, 2014, 01:21:59 PM
Some Gunsmoke trivia


The TV series ran from September 10, 1955, to March 31, 1975, on CBS with 635 total episodes. It was the second western television series written for adults,[10] premiering on September 10, 1955, four days after The Life and Legend of Wyatt Earp.[11][12] The first 12 seasons aired Saturdays at 10 p.m., seasons 13 through 16 aired Mondays at 7:30 p.m. and the last four seasons aired Mondays at 8 p.m. During its second season in 1956, the program joined the list of the top ten television programs broadcast in the United States. It quickly moved to number one and stayed there until 1961. It remained among the top twenty programs until 1964.[13]


Longevity records


The television series remains the longest running, prime time series of the 20th century. As of 2014, it had the highest number of scripted episodes for any, U.S. primetime, commercial live-action television series. Other TV show fans sometimes question its position as having the longest run. Outside the United States, there are some foreign-made programs that have been broadcast in the United States which contend for the position as the longest-running series.[notes 1] As of 2010, Gunsmoke is rated fifth globally, after Doctor Who (1963 – 89, 2005– ), Taggart (1983 – 2010),[14] The Bill (1984 – 2010).


Character longevity


James Arness and Milburn Stone portrayed their Gunsmoke characters for 20 consecutive years, as did Kelsey Grammer as the character Frasier Crane, but over two half-hour sitcoms (Cheers and Frasier).[15] George Walsh, the announcer for Gunsmoke, began in 1952 on radio's Gunsmoke and continued until television's Gunsmoke was canceled in 1975.[16] The first seven seasons were jointly sponsored by L&M cigarettes and Remington shaving products.



Well I certainly watched it, watched Laugh-In too for that matter!

Say goodnight Dick..







Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on December 02, 2014, 02:22:00 PM
I didn't remember a conflict with Gunsmoke and Star Trek, I guess because the first season of the latter I was out of the country and couldn't watch it, but did watch the last two seasons. Our hall even had a color TV back then, which we didn't get at home until many years later.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 02, 2014, 04:41:36 PM
Say goodnight Dick..

Good night, Gracie.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on December 09, 2014, 04:46:36 PM
(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2014/news/141222/addams-family-435.jpg)

Goodnight Pugsley!  :(


Ken Weatherwax, who played the mischievous and slightly deviant Pugsley on TV's The Addams Family in the mid-'60s, died of an apparent heart attack Sunday at his home in Southern California, his nephew told the Los Angeles Times.

"The family is devastated," said the relative, Beau Vieira.

The young Weatherwax, a native of Los Angeles, according to the Hollywood Reporter, started his career on toothpaste commercials.


Showbiz ran in the family: His aunt was the 1930s Warner Bros. dancing star Ruby Keeler (42nd Street) and his uncle was Lassie's trainer, Rudd Weatherwax, said the trade journal.

Besides acting on The Addams Family, which was based on the merrily macabre New Yorker cartoons by Charles Addams and ran on ABC for two seasons beginning in 1964 – Carolyn Jones and John Astin starred as Pugsley's parents, Morticia and Gomez Addams – Weatherwax served in the Army and worked for Universal Studios as a grip, said his niece, Shanyn Vieira.

In a 2007 interview on Fox News, Weatherwax spoke well of his time on the show, but said the role typecast him and in school he was teased about his character's name.

In addition to his niece and nephew, Weatherwax is survived by a brother, character actor Joseph D. Vieira.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: canmark on December 15, 2014, 08:32:59 AM
I’m normally not one to watch TV series on DVD, however I’ve recently started watching All in the Family, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and Designing Women. It’s interesting how some of the episodes I remember quite well while others seem new to me. For example, I didn’t realize that we ever got to see Mary’s parents. I knew that Rhoda’s mother (the hilarious Nancy Walker) was a recurring guest star, but I thought that Mary’s parents were only referred to and never actually seen. But I just watched an episode from season three, I think, and there was Mary’s mother, Dottie – played by Nanette Fabray!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 15, 2014, 10:49:02 AM

I like to watch TV series on DVD! They're uncut and no commercials and
there's no ads running in the corners or network logos!

Some of us have been getting together one night a week for many times
during the year, ostensibly to watch a film or something, but we added in
watching a tv episode of a series beforehand.  We recently went through
The Mary Tyler Moore Show. (I never liked Phyllis's daughter and was glad
that she wasn't in very many.) Speaking of people/characters you'd forget,
in one episode Phylis's brother visits (but we never see him). When Cloris
got her own series, Phyllis, he was never seen or mentioned again.

I've been watching All in the Family off and on because one of the retro channels
airs it. Lots of good episodes through the seasons. On your dvd, are any of the
two never aired pilots included? I know there was at least one of them in a release
at one time, but don't have specifics. I'd like to see those.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 15, 2014, 07:38:49 PM
I've been watching All in the Family off and on because one of the retro channels
airs it. Lots of good episodes through the seasons.

No doubt, yet that's one of the old shows I simply cannot bring myself to watch.  :-\

The Mary Tyler Moore Show, either, for some reason.  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on December 16, 2014, 10:58:27 AM
I’m normally not one to watch TV series on DVD, however I’ve recently started watching All in the Family, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and Designing Women. It’s interesting how some of the episodes I remember quite well while others seem new to me. For example, I didn’t realize that we ever got to see Mary’s parents. I knew that Rhoda’s mother (the hilarious Nancy Walker) was a recurring guest star, but I thought that Mary’s parents were only referred to and never actually seen. But I just watched an episode from season three, I think, and there was Mary’s mother, Dottie – played by Nanette Fabray!

I don't remember that either!   And Nanette would be a perfect Mom for "Perfect Mary"!


All in the Family I watch on occasion, but still shudder at some of the stuff that comes out of Archie's mouth.     Three great/classic shows.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 17, 2014, 12:10:05 PM
The CW is showing Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol Friday evening. I haven't seen that in, oh, 50 years, maybe, so I'm going to try to catch it.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on December 17, 2014, 12:16:14 PM
The CW is showing Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol Friday evening. I haven't seen that in, oh, 50 years, maybe, so I'm going to try to catch it.  ;D

Oh I will definitely tune in or PVR whatever I can, that was such a sweet version :D


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0123179/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 17, 2014, 01:22:49 PM

The Mr. Magoo special preceded the Charlie Brown special by three (?) years
and was very popular. It's on dvd.

A couple years ago they put out a special coffee table type book about the
making of the special and all kinds of things. Would have liked it, but don't have
it. The music was by broadway composers, Jule Styne, for one.

Several years ago I did a photo post to the song Winter Was Warm, with
BBM "art/artwork" photos all done by forum members.


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 17, 2014, 01:26:56 PM
The Mr. Magoo special preceded the Charlie Brown special by three (?) years
and was very popular. It's on dvd.

A couple years ago they put out a special coffee table type book about the
making of the special and all kinds of things. Would have liked it, but don't have
it. The music was by broadway composers, Jule Styne, for one.

Several years ago I did a photo post to the song Winter Was Warm, with
BBM "art/artwork" photos all done by forum members.

The Magoo special was my first introduction to A Christmas Carol.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on December 18, 2014, 04:18:31 PM
No for me it was the Alastair Sim version, we watched it every year and we were in awe!   :D

Watched the Charlie Brown special the other night, so sweet.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 19, 2014, 08:39:10 PM
The CW is showing Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol Friday evening. I haven't seen that in, oh, 50 years, maybe, so I'm going to try to catch it.  ;D

Well, I watched the Magoo tonight. Since it's gotta be 50 years since I last saw it, I probably shouldn't be surprised at how very, very little I actually remembered. Some of it, during the part with the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come, struck me as actually potentially scary for a very young child, but I don't remember being scared by any of it.

I remembered the framing device that Mr. Magoo was playing Scrooge in a Broadway show, and I remembered Tiny Tim singing about something he called "razzleberry dressing."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 20, 2014, 09:07:47 AM
I watched it last night too, while I was doing my laundry.

My favorite song from it is "Winter Was Warm".
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 20, 2014, 03:22:40 PM
My favorite song from it is "Winter Was Warm".

That's a very pretty song. I guess it's also about the only thing that "stands alone" from the show.

Interesting little period in television history, I guess, when you've got Jules Styne writing for Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol and Johnnie Marks writing for Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.

Have a Holly, Jolly Christmas from Rudolph is among my favorite secular Christmas songs. I can't hear it without smiling, whether it's the Burl Ives recording or anyone else.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 28, 2014, 12:48:32 PM
^^^^^^


"Oh, Rob..."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 29, 2014, 08:37:43 AM
ME-TV seems to be showing the first (B&W)--and best, IMO--season of Daniel Boone.

At least, this morning there was a B&W episode from the first season.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on December 30, 2014, 12:36:43 AM
funny, i had a coon skin cap, and wore it everywhere...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 30, 2014, 08:24:37 AM
funny, i had a coon skin cap, and wore it everywhere...

From Daniel Boone or Davy Crockett?  ;)

I've read that Fess Parker wanted to do a weekly Crockett series, but there was concern that Disney would raise legal issues, so the main character was switched to Daniel Boone. They kept the coonskin cap, however, even though the historical Daniel Boone did not wear a coonskin cap; he wore a wide-brimmed felt hat.

IMO, it was a wise decision to switch to Boone. I think that--at least initially, in the first two seasons--it may have opened up more story possibilities, involving Boone's family and the settlers of Boonesborough.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 01, 2015, 04:17:36 PM
AntennaTV seems to be running the first one or two episodes of some classic shows today. A short while ago I saw the first two episodes of Green Acres.  :D

Those episodes had "guest appearances" from a number of folks from Petticoat Junction to help launch the series.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 02, 2015, 10:54:12 AM

I love Green Acres, because it is so off the wall and some episodes are downright
theater of the absurd.  Beverly Hillbillies, Petticoat Junction and Green Acres all had
some episodes with characters from each show, especially one Christmas episode of
one of those shows where they all got together. The Sam Drucker character
was notably a regular on both Green Acres and Petticoat Junction.

One bizarre Green Acres episode has the cast putting on a play, a stage
production of--The Beverly Hillbillies! Now that's funny!

At one time Bette Midler had the rights for a movie version of this series, but it didn't happen.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: canmark on January 02, 2015, 12:56:23 PM
Beverly Hillbillies Star Donna Douglas Dies at 81
http://time.com/3652529/donna-douglas-dead-beverly-hillbillies/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 02, 2015, 02:58:24 PM
Beverly Hillbillies Star Donna Douglas Dies at 81
http://time.com/3652529/donna-douglas-dead-beverly-hillbillies/

R.I.P., Ellie May.  :'(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 02, 2015, 03:02:53 PM
I love Green Acres, because it is so off the wall and some episodes are downright
theater of the absurd.

I liked it, too, but sometimes, especially in the later seasons, with storylines involving Arnold Ziffel (the pig), it got a bit too over-the-top for me.

Quote
The Sam Drucker character was notably a regular on both Green Acres and Petticoat Junction.

At one time or another, Frank Cady (Sam Drucker) appeared in all three shows.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on January 02, 2015, 04:30:22 PM
R.I.P., Ellie May.  :'(

Oh I am so sorry to hear of her passing.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2894776/Donna-Douglas-Beverly-Hillbillies-star-played-Elly-Clampett-dies-81.html

And who can believe she was 81, seems she is frozen in time (for me) as the beautiful Ellie May!


R.I.P.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 03, 2015, 01:10:24 PM
I saw the debut episode of Murder, She Wrote last night.  ;D

I always thought the guy who played Jessica's nephew Grady was cute.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 03, 2015, 04:01:17 PM
(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/murdershewrote/images/3/3e/Grady.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20080225022803)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 04, 2015, 12:45:13 PM
(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/murdershewrote/images/3/3e/Grady.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20080225022803)

Yup. Nice kind of boy-next-door good looks.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 04, 2015, 12:48:56 PM
Yesterday afternoon I stumbled into the middle of an episode of Wanted: Dead or Alive. The young guy who was in the scene with Steve McQueen looked familiar, and then when I got a good look at his face I knew immediately: It was Michael Landon. (I presume before, maybe just before, Bonanza.)  :)

Being on vacation this week, I've seen a couple of episodes of those old half-hour Westerns, and the experience reinforced my view that "they" really packed a lot of good storytelling into that time constraint "back in the day."  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 04, 2015, 12:50:35 PM
And who can believe she was 81, seems she is frozen in time (for me) as the beautiful Ellie May!

Agreed! It seems impossible that she was actually 81 years old.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on January 07, 2015, 06:28:06 PM
Agreed! It seems impossible that she was actually 81 years old.  :(

I guess that just leaves Max Baer (Jethro) still alive..  and he is 77!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 08, 2015, 08:55:24 AM
I guess that just leaves Max Baer (Jethro) still alive..  and he is 77!

I will always remember Elly and her "critters" down by the CE-ment Pond.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 08, 2015, 09:36:06 AM
(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/murdershewrote/images/3/3e/Grady.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20080225022803)

Michael Horton

(I looked up Murder, She Wrote, and, fortunately, he was listed in the Wikipedia article as a continuing character.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on January 08, 2015, 11:48:02 AM
I will always remember Elly and her "critters" down by the CE-ment Pond.  :)

I always wanted a ce-ment pond!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 08, 2015, 01:12:53 PM
I always wanted a ce-ment pond!  :D

How about some pot-passers for your fancy eatin' room?  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on January 08, 2015, 04:19:48 PM
I love Green Acres, because it is so off the wall and some episodes are downright
theater of the absurd.  Beverly Hillbillies, Petticoat Junction and Green Acres all had
some episodes with characters from each show, especially one Christmas episode of
one of those shows where they all got together. The Sam Drucker character
was notably a regular on both Green Acres and Petticoat Junction.

One bizarre Green Acres episode has the cast putting on a play, a stage
production of--The Beverly Hillbillies! Now that's funny!

At one time Bette Midler had the rights for a movie version of this series, but it didn't happen.

Thank God.

I LOVE Green Acres!  So damned funny!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 18, 2015, 09:08:36 PM
Well, I guess I am a certifiable old fogey since I just spent an entire rainy winter Sunday afternoon watching Murder, She Wrote.  :D

In the smaller supporting roles I saw lots of faces I remember from the early 1980s, but I can't put names to them anymore.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bentgyro on January 19, 2015, 11:12:08 AM
I watch murder she wrote every Monday on my day off and find the same thing.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 19, 2015, 12:43:28 PM
I watch murder she wrote every Monday on my day off and find the same thing.

Fortunately I was able to identify the actors in question in a roundabout way, so I wasn't driven completely crazy.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on January 19, 2015, 01:00:52 PM
Well, I guess I am a certifiable old fogey since I just spent an entire rainy winter Sunday afternoon watching Murder, She Wrote.  :D

In the smaller supporting roles I saw lots of faces I remember from the early 1980s, but I can't put names to them anymore.  :(

It really was a good show, my Mom never missed it!!  :D   Seriously though if I could find it on TV now, I would watch it.   
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 19, 2015, 04:22:55 PM
Well, I guess I am a certifiable old fogey since I just spent an entire rainy winter Sunday afternoon watching Murder, She Wrote.  :D

I can't even tease you, I did the same thing with Charmed.

I started re-watching it with season one, I'm now halfway through season 6.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 19, 2015, 06:35:57 PM
It really was a good show, my Mom never missed it!!  :D   Seriously though if I could find it on TV now, I would watch it.   

Hey, there was a time in my life, in its early years of first run, that I never missed Murder, She Wrote either. I love Angela Lansbury, and I love the cross-over episode with Magnum, P.I., which I saw again some time ago.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 19, 2015, 06:37:14 PM
I can't even tease you, I did the same thing with Charmed.

I started re-watching it with season one, I'm now halfway through season 6.

Well, I don't think Charmed qualifies you for fogeydom in the way Murder, She Wrote qualifies me!  :D  :-*
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 19, 2015, 06:47:20 PM
Well, I don't think Charmed qualifies you for fogeydom in the way Murder, She Wrote qualifies me!  :D  :-*

I'm okay with agreeing with that.  LOL
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on January 20, 2015, 11:48:21 AM
It really was a good show, my Mom never missed it!!  :D   Seriously though if I could find it on TV now, I would watch it.   

not on your broadcast tv, but with technology it could be beamed from your computer to your tv, or just watch on your laptop.

http://www.thedarehub.com/tv/murder-she-wrote
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on January 25, 2015, 07:53:02 AM
Just tried and the first thing it wanted me to do was download something.  Talks about Google Chrome though, which I have, that is how I watch Netflix through my TV, from my tablet, also have a laptop.  I need to put on my thinking cap.   

I have never seen an episode of Charmed, maybe it will come to Netflix and Murder She Wrote, would be nice..
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 25, 2015, 05:35:48 PM
I have never seen an episode of Charmed, maybe it will come to Netflix and Murder She Wrote, would be nice..

Yes, Charmed is on Netflix.

In fact, in 2013 Charmed was the second most 'binged' show on the system.  It was so popular, it started a possible reboot with new actresses in the roles of the Halliwell sisters.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on January 25, 2015, 10:14:37 PM
Just tried and the first thing it wanted me to do was download something.  Talks about Google Chrome though, which I have, that is how I watch Netflix through my TV, from my tablet, also have a laptop.  I need to put on my thinking cap.   

I have never seen an episode of Charmed, maybe it will come to Netflix and Murder She Wrote, would be nice..
the only thing you need to download, is via your chrome browser, and that is an addon called poper available right from the chrome store.  it is a very effective blocker of all those messages.  you don't use the links at the bottom of the page, but the ones behind the tab marked links.  you never need to sign up for anything or pay for anything.  in short order you should be able to distinguish between the bait triggers and the real video start up triggers.
i know it seems a bit much, but it is pretty simple once you understand that those things are not from the site managers, but the price paid for using the site.  they may be freely ignored.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 13, 2015, 11:30:21 AM
There is a new RETRO channel coming that CBS is involved with.

It's called DECADES.

(http://audienceservices.cbs.com/feedback/dimage001.jpg)

A bit about it:

In order to stand out from other "retro-TV" multicast services (such as Me-TV and Antenna TV), the programs featured on each day's schedule will be centered around a daily theme, with interstitials filling breaks to highlight the theme. The themes will be topped off with Through the Decades, an hour-long program hosted and narrated by Bill Kurtis (who formerly served as an anchor for CBS News) that explores the events and news from a particular day or period in history, using archival footage that CBS owns via services such as CBS News and CBS Television Distribution's syndicated newsmagazine program Entertainment Tonight.

It's officially set to premiere in May, but as they are trying to line-up stations to carry the network they have "soft-launched" in several cities, meaning they are airing some things right now. I happened across the channel recently and discovered what they are doing is starting a series at a specific time, say 8 a.m., and then running the entire series until it's over. Like massive BINGE watching. In fact, they're calling it Binge: Countdown to Decades.

They describe it thusly:

Welcome to "Countdown to Decades", the unique binge viewing event unlike any other. Our special program lineup is dedicated to one TV series at a time, with continuing episodes airing in sequence 24 hours a day. Viewers will be able to binge on episode after episode of each program as it airs in order. Fans of every genre will enjoy 36 different TV series over the next months.

I actually happened upon Burke's Law, a series I've been trying to catch all the episodes that
I've not seen. This particular series, though, they were NOT airing in order as it says they are
(withmost anyway) and there is no particular info schedule so it was extremely hard to detail.

Right now they are running through Love, American Style. I happened upon a 1969 episode
last night with Diane Keaton! I don't think I've ever seen her in any television program before.
She was starring in that episode with Monte Markham, an actor I remember liking from the 60's.

Here's their website which includes the current pre-launch "Binge" schedule.
I notice in March, Jeff, for seven days around the clock, the are showing the
entire run of Daniel Boone!

http://www.decades.com/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on February 13, 2015, 11:55:53 AM
Here is a very informative article on the DECADES network.

https://willmckinley.wordpress.com/2015/01/24/original-dark-shadows-rises-from-the-dead-on-cbs-decades-tv-network/

No word yet if any of the cable or satellite companies will air it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bentgyro on February 13, 2015, 12:19:24 PM
Wow, Burke's Law....haven't thought about that show for years.  I always thought the lead guy was so sexy. ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 14, 2015, 12:16:22 PM

Oh, I didn't know this. I met Gary Owens once for television's Paley Center when
they did an homage to Laugh-In, one of my favorites. He actually came up to me
and started talking. I was tickled. People may not have known it, but his voice was,
and still is, everywhere. (He does the announcing on Antenna-TV for one.) So I am
sad at the news and thrilled at my memories.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on February 15, 2015, 03:14:11 PM
Oh, I didn't know this. I met Gary Owens once for television's Paley Center when
they did an homage to Laugh-In, one of my favorites. He actually came up to me
and started talking. I was tickled. People may not have known it, but his voice was,
and still is, everywhere. (He does the announcing on Antenna-TV for one.) So I am
sad at the news and thrilled at my memories.


Oh wow neat story!   You have met a lot of people.   I remember him well, they should put Laugh In on TV in reruns, although who knows maybe it is playing someplace...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 15, 2015, 05:02:08 PM
Monte Markham, an actor I remember liking from the 60's.

Oooh, I remember him well. I always thought he was handsome.

Quote
Here's their website which includes the current pre-launch "Binge" schedule.
I notice in March, Jeff, for seven days around the clock, the are showing the
entire run of Daniel Boone!

Thanks for the tipoff, Lyle. This is the first I've heard of Decades--don't know if it will be airing around here. I probably couldn't watch anyway because of work.

Besides, if I want to want to binge-watch Daniel Boone, I've got the whole series on DVD.  ::) I bought the 50th-anniversary rerelease. (Incidentally, I don't the rerelease is as nice the initial release, done while Fess Parker was still living--except that it appears that the initial release did not have the episodes in broadcast order.  ??? )
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 15, 2015, 05:03:58 PM
Gary Owens, the man behind the smooth baritone best known for announcing 'Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In' has died.

Owens' family said Friday that the veteran voiceover star died on Thursday at his Los Angeles-area home.

I do believe I saw a momentary "memoriam" to him flash by at the end of one of the CBS Thursday evening comedies.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 16, 2015, 10:31:43 AM
they should put Laugh In on TV in reruns, although who knows maybe it is playing someplace...

There was a network on for a few years, about 12-15 years ago, called TRIO. They aired Laugh-In for
a couple years in the original hour format, about half of the episodes that had been made. Trouble is,
no one ever seemed to be able to get that channel. At least not around here. I would've taped them
all if I'd had it! Maybe sometime one of these retro channels will do it again. Until Me-TV has started
showing the half-hour syndicated Carol Burnett Shows recently, there's been no variety show programs
on these channels.

For one, I suppose it's because of music rights, mostly. It's very hard and expensive to sort those out.
Secondly, the very nature of old variety shows means quality can be quite uneven from one episode to
the next. Also, topical themes were often used and might seem outdated now. Variety shows haven't
been in vogue for a long time, either. If one wants to search on youtube, you can find segments from
MANY shows, though, but it feels more like work half the time than just enjoying them. But then you
stumble across treasures like one time last year when I found a segment from Sammy Davis Jr.'s variety
show, which I didn't even know he had done, where he had The Andrews Sisters AND The Supremes
on stage together and they each did a medley of the others songs...meaning The Andrews Sisters were
singing songs by The Supremes and vice-versa.  Brilliant!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WumjD7pNSc

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 16, 2015, 11:41:52 AM
I found a segment from Sammy Davis Jr.'s variety
show, which I didn't even know he had done, where he had The Andrews Sisters AND The Supremes
on stage together and they each did a medley of the others songs...meaning The Andrews Sisters were
singing songs by The Supremes and vice-versa.  Brilliant!

Something like that should not be lost!

Funny, I don't remember Carol Burnett having a half-hour show. I only remember the hour-long show from Saturday night.  ???
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 16, 2015, 11:47:17 AM
^^^
When they syndicated the hour long show for re-runs, they edited them into
half hour shows, eliminating all the musical guests. It's the same series edited
into half-hours.

In the 1980's they cut many of the Laugh-In shows into about 120 half-hours for
syndication, too.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 16, 2015, 08:23:54 PM
^^^
When they syndicated the hour long show for re-runs, they edited them into
half hour shows, eliminating all the musical guests. It's the same series edited
into half-hours.

In the 1980's they cut many of the Laugh-In shows into about 120 half-hours for
syndication, too.

Thanks. I don't recall that I ever knew that Laugh-In had been syndicated, either.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 25, 2015, 02:10:21 PM
I got curious today, so I did a search and learned that the Clampett mansion on The Beverley Hillbillies was a real mansion at 750 Bel Air Road in Bel Air, CA.

http://www.tvacres.com/homes_clampett.htm (http://www.tvacres.com/homes_clampett.htm)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on February 26, 2015, 07:12:51 AM
I got curious today, so I did a search and learned that the Clampett mansion on The Beverley Hillbillies was a real mansion at 750 Bel Air Road in Bel Air, CA.

http://www.tvacres.com/homes_clampett.htm (http://www.tvacres.com/homes_clampett.htm)


I think that is actually Lyle's home!!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on February 26, 2015, 07:14:18 AM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 26, 2015, 07:43:01 AM

I think that is actually Lyle's home!!  :D

Then maybe if we ask nicely he'll let us come over and use his cee-ment pond!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on February 26, 2015, 08:25:24 AM
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Can we Lyle?   :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 26, 2015, 12:21:47 PM

 Surely!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 26, 2015, 01:04:19 PM
Surely!


W-e-e-e-ll, doggies! Wing-ding at Lyle's!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on February 27, 2015, 10:33:51 AM
Leonard Nimoy, Spock of ‘Star Trek,’ Dies at 83

Leonard Nimoy, the sonorous, gaunt-faced actor who won a worshipful global following as Mr. Spock, the resolutely logical human-alien first officer of the Starship Enterprise in the television and movie juggernaut “Star Trek,” died on Friday morning at his home in the Bel Air section of Los Angeles. He was 83.

His wife, Susan Bay Nimoy, confirmed his death, saying the cause was end-stage chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 27, 2015, 11:40:56 AM
Leonard Nimoy, Spock of ‘Star Trek,’ Dies at 83

Leonard Nimoy, the sonorous, gaunt-faced actor who won a worshipful global following as Mr. Spock, the resolutely logical human-alien first officer of the Starship Enterprise in the television and movie juggernaut “Star Trek,” died on Friday morning at his home in the Bel Air section of Los Angeles. He was 83.

His wife, Susan Bay Nimoy, confirmed his death, saying the cause was end-stage chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

I heard this news on CNN while I was eating lunch just now. Sad news.  :(

Tell you what, I am not now, nor have I ever been, a Star Trek fan, but it seems to me that the Star Trek phenomenon has so permeated out culture that even if you just stay tuned to what's going on in the world, it's impossible not to know who these people, and their characters, are.

Live long and prosper, Mr. Spock.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on February 27, 2015, 12:41:27 PM
The actor's Star Trek co-star William Shatner, 83, was heartbroken on hearing the news. "I loved him like a brother," said Shatner in a statement to PEOPLE. "We will all miss his humor, his talent, and his capacity to love."


George Takei, 77, who played Sulu on the series, told Andrea Mitchell Reports on MSNBC: "You know, the word extraordinary is often overused, but I think it's really appropriate for Leonard.


"He was an extraordinarily talented man, but he was also a very decent human being. His talent embraced directing as well as acting and photography. He was a very sensitive man."


http://www.people.com/article/leonard-nimoy-dies



Very sorry to hear this.  I was a fan of the original TV show and the movies with that cast in it.   But not so much any of the newer stuff.   I mean that show really was iconic and I especially loved his character.


Live long and prosper Mr. Spock.  :'(



Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on February 27, 2015, 01:38:01 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2965749/Leonard-Nimoy-dead-83.html


A little more information and some great pictures!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on February 27, 2015, 06:49:07 PM
for the record, i don't believe anything that phony shatner has to say about nimoy.  i suspect him of merely burnishing his own credits by attaching himself to nimoy, a man of so many accomplishments and such refinement.  shatner's legacy is a string of tacky insurance and travel agency commercials and some self abasing saturday night live appearances...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on February 27, 2015, 07:30:25 PM
for the record, i don't believe anything that phony shatner has to say about nimoy.  i suspect him of merely burnishing his own credits by attaching himself to nimoy, a man of so many accomplishments and such refinement.  shatner's legacy is a string of tacky insurance and travel agency commercials and some self abasing saturday night live appearances...


Well he was Captain Kirk and he was great in that part.  Then he was TJ Hooker (Leonard Nimoy was even on that show)  Personally I loved him in Boston Legal - Denny Crane.. he won two Emmy's for that and a Golden Globe.

He  actually trained as a classical Shakespearean actor, he was big in the Stratford Festival here when he was young.   He has a star on the Canada's Walk of Fame!   :D


I do believe that they were good friends, maybe not on  Star Trek, there was probably some rivalry back then I would think..
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: jack on March 01, 2015, 07:29:34 AM
i'll grant you boston legal, but that was a character drawn with such broad strokes that it took a great ham to play it seriously.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: suelyblu on March 04, 2015, 04:48:57 PM
I used to love this easy listening laid back comedy series.Then all of a sudden it just stopped. Was
that the case in US ....or just UK ?? There were some resident great stars in it and lots of visiting star characters too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nohrqPiXkMw


"Evening Shade "








Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 04, 2015, 08:26:29 PM
I used to love this easy listening laid back comedy series.Then all of a sudden it just stopped. Was
that the case in US ....or just UK ?? There were some resident great stars in it and lots of visiting star characters too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nohrqPiXkMw


"Evening Shade "

I looked it up on Wikipedia, Suely, and it was 4 seasons long and it did have a final episode.  Do you remember if it showed all 4 season in the UK?

The general theme of the show is the appeal of small town life. Episodes ended with a closing narration by Ossie Davis summing up the events of the episode, always closing with "... in a place called Evening Shade." The show's final episode saw the guest appearances of Willie Nelson and Buzz Aldrin as escaped convicts on the run from authorities, the final scene being a spectacular shoot-out reminiscent of the final scene of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: suelyblu on March 05, 2015, 01:56:47 PM
No Linda.....I can't remember watching it for that amount of time and I really don't remember
the final closing episode as I think I would have ....'cause I'm a devotee of Willy Nelsons.!  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 06, 2015, 12:12:01 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 06, 2015, 12:14:45 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 06, 2015, 12:16:15 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 07, 2015, 11:22:20 AM
^^^^^^

That OUR GANG photo is too cute!
Is the first one Leave It to Beaver?

Thanks for those, you know I love those holiday themed celebrity photos!
_______

Please still do come up with some Easter episodes.  A couple of us were
trying to on Sunday and the only one I could think of was a recent series,
RAISING HOPE.

Either the episodes weren't memorable or Easter wasn't tackled on series for
some reason.

P.S.: I think if we shared LOVE SECRETS with those Brady Bunch children we'd all be arrested.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 07, 2015, 11:24:25 AM
It's not really about Easter, but didn't Granny Clampett once mistake a kangaroo for a giant jackrabbit?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 07, 2015, 11:35:29 AM
Please still do come up with some Easter episodes.  A couple of us were
trying to on Sunday and the only one I could think of was a recent series,
RAISING HOPE.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0529520/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0529520/)

Oh. My. God. Hoss Cartwright as the Easter Bunny. ...

What were those writers smokin'?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 07, 2015, 11:40:38 AM
Yes, indeed, Granny did mistake a kangaroo for a giant jackrabbit! And
for some reason, that particular episode of The Beverly Hillbillies is on
the list of the most watched U.S. television broadcasts ever! (It aired
January 8, 1964.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 07, 2015, 11:48:03 AM

I remember getting to stay up late to watch that Bonanza episode!
In my opinion, I loved the fact that Bonanza would do an occasional
episode in an all out comedic vein. (Remember the episode where
Hoss thought he was seeing Leprechauns?) It's one reason I never
cottoned to Gunsmoke. If anyone cracked a smile on that series
their face would fall off.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 07, 2015, 12:13:59 PM

I was briefly trying to search online for some series with Easter themed episodes.
I came across a thread on the Sitcoms Online website asking this very question
and there are only two posts; one mentioning an episode of AMEN.

I also read: "This Easter-themed episode of the 'Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles' is
insane even by that show's nutty standards."

There MUST be some others.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 07, 2015, 12:29:28 PM
I loved the fact that Bonanza would do an occasional
episode in an all out comedic vein. (Remember the episode where
Hoss thought he was seeing Leprechauns?)

I saw the leprechaun episode as a nostalgia-channel rerun.

I'm guessing the comedy episodes usually revolved around Hoss? Dan Blocker must have been a good, er, egg.

I ran across that notice about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, too, but I didn't follow up on it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 07, 2015, 01:09:03 PM
I'm guessing the comedy episodes usually revolved around Hoss? Dan Blocker must have been a

Heh!  Around the same time as that Easter episode Dan Blocker was the guest star on a
Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In episode and he was quite amusing. He even dressed in drag.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 07, 2015, 02:09:30 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 07, 2015, 04:30:37 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a9/65/3f/a9653fe65dd009e5dca3ca97d8cc3301.jpg)


the Brady kids have 'love secrets'?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on April 07, 2015, 05:40:28 PM
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I saw an episode of "The Talk" and they showed an ugly-looking statue of Lucille Ball that the original sculptor is going to replace with another statute that looks more like her.  I have always thought that Desi Arnaz was cute.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 08, 2015, 10:53:11 AM
Dezi was a hottie for sure, and yes I saw pictures of the Lucy sculpture, it was not flattering at all.  She really was so pretty!

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/5f/61/8f/5f618fe8b62e55cb4354536d3d2f2fbe.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 08, 2015, 10:54:40 AM
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I think they were truly soul mates, just two people that probably shouldn't have been married.

But good thing they were because we have the show and they made magic with that.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 08, 2015, 10:56:38 AM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 08, 2015, 12:45:35 PM
I think they were truly soul mates, just two people that probably shouldn't have been married.

The problem was that Desi was a notorious womanizer and Lucy got tired of it.

(On the DVD episode of I LOVE LUCY titled "Country Club Dance", Barbara Eden was the
guest performer and she does audio commentary on it and describes how it was known
and told to her to stay away from Desi because of this and she describes doing just that
while working on this episode.)

Bottom line was Desi could and he did.  Lucy got tired of it.
I wonder if Lucy ever fooled around because she probably could, too!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 08, 2015, 04:22:42 PM
I have read so much about them over the years, too much to talk about here, but I do think they loved each other, just wasn't going to work... for a lot of reasons.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on April 08, 2015, 04:57:36 PM
Dezi was a hottie for sure, and yes I saw pictures of the Lucy sculpture, it was not flattering at all.  She really was so pretty!

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/5f/61/8f/5f618fe8b62e55cb4354536d3d2f2fbe.jpg)


Yes, she was pretty and just so funny.  I wish that she were still with us.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 08, 2015, 06:12:33 PM
Sadly she would be 104, but I do wish she had lived longer than she did!


(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/34/d1/87/34d1879d7ebce9fecd9f0ebb96c5d17b.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 08, 2015, 06:18:36 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 25, 2015, 10:38:59 AM
Gee, the interesting things you sometimes learn.

So, as usual this morning, I watched MeTV's broadcast of an episode of Daniel Boone.

The episode was from 1967, and the plot concerned Daniel transporting a boatload of supplies to a besieged fort. He had to share the command with a young Continental Army lieutenant who, of course, thought he knew it all and resented having to share command with a backwoodsman. The actor playing the lieutenant was quite good-looking (he had great hair  ;D ), so I looked him up in my episode guide. The name, Hampton Fancher, meant nothing to me, so, of course, I got to wondering who he was and whatever became of him. The Wikipedia article on him was quite eye-opening.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampton_Fancher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hampton_Fancher)

It mentions appearances in several other Westerns, but not the Daniel Boone episode.  >:( He was born in 1938 and thus was about age 29 at the time of his appearance on Daniel Boone.

He was married for two years to actress Sue Lyon (Lolita), and later wrote the first screenplay for Blade Runner.

Who knew?  :o
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 25, 2015, 11:27:22 AM

Thanks, Jeff, I like when one finds out something interesting about certain people you
happen to see on TV! Speaking of Blade Runner, I just heard yesterday there is going to
be a sequel to it made soon (with Harrison Ford) and Ryan Gosllng is in talks to star as well.
___

The "Decades" channel is showing all episodes of the TV series The Millionaire over the
next three days. I saw a few episodes when Me-TV aired a few one afternoon last year
and thought it was interesting enough to check some more out.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 25, 2015, 12:00:34 PM
Thanks, Jeff, I like when one finds out something interesting about certain people you
happen to see on TV!

I should have checked IMDb as well as the Wikipedia article. The Daniel Boone episode that I saw this morning was from the fall of 1967 (i.e., the 1967-68 season). According to IMDb, that was Fancher's second appearance in a Boone episode; he also appeared in one in the spring of '67 (i.e., the '66-'67 season); I verified that against the episode guide.

The brief marriage to Sue Lyon was his second; he also had an also-brief first marriage.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 29, 2015, 10:34:39 AM
http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/28/suzanne-crough-dead-tracy-partridge-family-daughter-dies/


SO sad to hear this, I can't imagine what happened!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: oilgun on May 03, 2015, 05:37:00 PM
Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman. Anyone remember that show?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 04, 2015, 07:13:37 AM
Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman. Anyone remember that show?

Remember of it, didn't watch it. I understand it was a ground-breaker for its day.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 04, 2015, 07:26:47 AM
So, Saturday morning, as usual, I was watching an episode of Daniel Boone on Me-TV. Actually, it was one I didn't remember. Jimmy Dean was a guest star, playing a character called Jeremiah, not his later regular character named Josh Clements.

In this episode Daniel, Mingo, and Jeremiah captured a British Army officer who had invented a rapid-firing breech-loading gun, a weapon which could have had devastating effects on the American cause in the Revolutionary War. The prototype guns were not with the officer when they captured him, so the Oxford-educated Mingo ended up impersonating the officer to keep the guns out of Redcoat hands. Then Daniel involved his wife, Rebecca, in the plot, to impersonate the officer's fiancée.

When you consider the distance between the Atlantic seaboard and central Kentucky, to have involved Rebecca in the plot, clearly they must have had available some sort of transporter centuries before Capt. James T. Kirk, et al.  :o  ;D  ;)

Saturday evening I watched a DVD of a Boone episode I did remember, with Maurice Evans (Samantha's father on Bewitched!) portraying the 18th-century French dramatist Pierre Beaumarchais, who, in this story, was smuggling gold to pay for arms for the American cause in the Revolution. Another member of the cast was Robert Wolders, who went on to become Audrey Hepburn's companion. I do believe the episode involved some music from The Marriage of Figaro--before Mozart wrote it.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 04, 2015, 11:42:39 AM
Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman. Anyone remember that show?

Yes, I remember when it was on and watched it a few times, but was never that
interested in it for whatever reason. It was certainly talked about alot. I have a
friend who is really interested in it and when they released the complete series on
DVD in Dec. 2013 he was quite ecstatic about it.  Wonder why one of the retro
channels doesn't air it?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 04, 2015, 01:17:07 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 04, 2015, 01:17:51 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 04, 2015, 01:18:23 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 04, 2015, 01:19:22 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 04, 2015, 01:20:46 PM
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Posting some favourites, but he is kind of scary looking now looking back!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 04, 2015, 01:21:47 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: oilgun on May 04, 2015, 04:58:00 PM
Yes, I remember when it was on and watched it a few times, but was never that
interested in it for whatever reason. It was certainly talked about alot. I have a
friend who is really interested in it and when they released the complete series on
DVD in Dec. 2013 he was quite ecstatic about it.  Wonder why one of the retro
channels doesn't air it?


I was a huge fan i even bought the 45 of the disco version of the theme song. Gay bars would empty for the half hour that the show aired, which was every night at 11h00 if I remember correctly. I have volume 1 on DVD and to be honest I find that the show hasn't aged all that well.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 04, 2015, 07:16:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuTR0BgiZmU

Mary Hartman disco.  LOL
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: oilgun on May 04, 2015, 08:57:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuTR0BgiZmU

Mary Hartman disco.  LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBo0cPrVtcg
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 05, 2015, 10:02:05 AM

Did you also watch Fernwood Tonight?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: oilgun on May 05, 2015, 02:37:26 PM
Did you also watch Fernwood Tonight?


Not really, that one didn't "take"with me.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 17, 2015, 04:44:17 PM
I remembered two episodes of Daniel Boone where Burl Ives was the guest star, so last night I hunted them up in my set of the 50th-anniversary DVD release and watched them. I hadn't remembered much about the episodes, but the second one was actually quite funny. Ives played a character called Prater Beasley, a singer of songs and teller of tall tales who traveled about with an invisible bear called Mr. Dobbs for a companion.  :D  The cast of that second episode also included Victor French, before he went on to work with Michael Landon in Little House on the Prairie and Highway to Heaven.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 17, 2015, 08:59:38 PM
Anybody else happen to watch the I Love Lucy episodes this evening? The Hollywood at Last/Lucy Meets William Holden episode is one of my personal favorites. I don't recall ever seeing the Superman episode before.  ???

If I didn't know the episodes weren't originally in color, I don't think I ever would have known that they weren't.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 18, 2015, 10:52:02 AM

Yes, I watched the I LOVE LUCY special with the two new colorized episodes.
"L.A. AT LAST" is also my favorite Lucy episode! I have them on dvd. The one
thing about these specials is that nowadays there are more commercials than when
they originally aired and they have to cut a few minutes out of each episode, so it's
maddening when you know them so well. Plus, CBS said they were showing some
footage in that episode that hadn't been seen in sixty years since it was originally aired.

Now how that was possible I don't know? The episode runs twenty-six minutes, like
all of them do in their supposedly complete versions. But, there it was, new footage.
When they get to Hollywood and Bobby the Bellboy shows them into their room,
there's about a minute of new footage I'd never seen before, with Lucy wanting to
find movie stars and Bobby telling them about his role in Julius Caesar. I've been trying
to find an article about where that footage came from.

What did they cut out?  The opening footage of the episode has the group riding on the
freeway in their new Pontiac in downtown Los Angeles past city hall and one of those old
gas-o-meters that used to dot the city. L.A. AT LAST! is superimposed on the screen. Then
they travel down a Beverly Hills street and turn into their hotel. (I know the street is located
in Beverly Hills, but their hotel, in the series, is located near Vine Street in Hollywood.)

They also cut out the routine in the Brown Derby where celebrtites are getting paged for
phone calls over the loudspeaker and the group reacts accordingly. They also cut some of
the footage from William Holden and Ricky's conversation while they're waiting for Lucy to
come out of the bedroom.

So, when they release this on dvd sometime I will have to see the complete version!  I know
there are people who just HATE anything to be colorized, but I don't have a problem with it.
Maybe it's because I grew up in a household in the 60's that didn't have a color tv and then
years later I began seeing all these programs in color that I had only seen in b&w originally. So,
to me, the colorization is just a new way to see something that I've seen many times before.
(Some of my favorite films I have watched in b&w, too, by turning off the color on the set,
just to see it in a new way, like Brokeback Mountain and E.T. for instance. Try it sometime!

I don't know the Superman episode well enough to know what they cut out of that one.

They have now colorized six I LOVE LUCY episodes:

Job Switching (#39) (the candy factory)
L.A. at Last (#114)
Lucy Goes to Scotland (#144)
Lucy's Italian Movie (#150) (the grape stomping)
The Christmas Show (#Special)
Lucy and Superman (#166)

They actually colorized the Christmas episode twice. It was aired in b&w in 1990
and the following year they colorized it and aired it again, in 1991. They re-did
it a couple years ago.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 18, 2015, 12:07:49 PM
They also cut out the routine in the Brown Derby where celebrtites are getting paged for
phone calls over the loudspeaker and the group reacts accordingly.

Maybe they shortened this, but they didn't cut it out entirely. I distinctly remember at least one--possibly two--pages, but I can't remember who was being paged; of course, I had no idea that I'd want to remember.  :D

I'd completely forgotten about Eve Arden.  :D  (Love her in Mildred Pierce!)

Would be nice if there could be a "definitive version" (director's cut?  :D ) that would include them driving into L.A., as well as the part with the bellboy.

What's a gas-o-meter?  ???

The question that crossed my mind while watching was whether there really was any place from which you could see both the Brown Derby and Graumann's Chinese Theater, or was that "geographical license"?

How times change. I almost laughed out loud at William Holden smoking a cigarette in a restaurant!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 18, 2015, 02:11:08 PM
What's a gas-o-meter?  ???

(http://pics.imcdb.org/0is30/lucy21.3992.jpg)

This is a screencap from the beginning of the episode when the Ricardos and Mertzes
enter Los Angeles. The gas-o-meters are the storage tank things on the left; the
taller one and the shorter one. Those used to dot the Los Angeles area and vicinity
all over the pace up until the early 1970's. I didn't even know about them until I
started visiting a website that features lots of historic photos of Los Angeles. When
I see them, all I can think of is what people with bad intentions would do to them
if they were still around.

There was one in West Hollywood nar to the Golwyn Studios. You can see it in some of the
films they shot around there, like a scene in The Best Years of Our Lives.  Did other cities have
these things?  Like I said, I wasn't even familiar with them having been in Los Angeles.
 
By the way, the Ponitiac convertilble with the Ricardos and Mertzes is on the very right
lane in the lanes coming towards us and is just about to cross under the freeway signs.
It's the fifth car back in that lane.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 18, 2015, 02:17:39 PM
Thanks, Lyle. So it looks like a gas-o-meter is just a storage tank?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 18, 2015, 02:20:25 PM
Thanks, Lyle. So it looks like a gas-o-meter is just a storage tank?

I believe so. The tanks are collapsible to the limit of the supporting frame, so as to maintain a constant pressure.

They used to be common in New Orleans too way back when.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 18, 2015, 02:24:35 PM
I just looked it up. Important to know that they were for natural gas, not gasoline.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_holder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gas_holder)

You have to read down the article a bit. Apparently the term was coined by the man who invented gas lighting.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 18, 2015, 02:40:32 PM
Maybe they shortened this, but they didn't cut it out entirely.

Now that I think about it, I am mistaken about this. I don't think anything from the Brown Derby
segment was edited.

On the dvd they mention that because there were so many long laughs in this episode that they had
to cut one scene. Apparently there was a scripted scene where Lucy is in the bedroom and she tries
a few different things to disguise herself, before we eventually see her enter with the fake nose. They
have a photograph of it included on the dvd. They also mention that to keep the flame on the nose
they inserted a candle wick inside it. Also, after Lucy blows the flame out it wasn't entirely extinguished
and it wasn't scripted to do so, but that's why she picks up her coffee cup and sticks her nose in it, to
put it completely out.  Such a great episode all around.

The question that crossed my mind while watching was whether there really was any place from which you could see both the Brown Derby and Graumann's Chinese Theater, or was that "geographical license"?

You'd have to be pretty high up, but on the third floor or so where they are I don't believe that was a
possibility. The street you see out their window is Vine Street, so you could see the Brown Derby, but
not both.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 18, 2015, 03:00:19 PM
By the way, here's the scene (footage) that runs about 50 seconds and is said
not to have aired since it originally did sixty years ago. How long was that episode
then anyway?

When Bobby the Bellboy ushers the Ricardos and Mertzes into the hotel the
conversation progresses to Lucy asking if they saw Van Johnson in the elevator
and for confirmation she asks Bobby if that was him. He replies, "No, ma'am, that
was the house detective." Lucy: "Well, it looked like him."  And Ricky replies, "Well
everyone looks like a movie star to my wife." Then Bobby tells the Mertzes their room
is down the hall and those three exit.  In this episode after Ricky says, "Well everyone
looks like a movie star to my wife," this new footage follows:
 
FRED:
Yeah, we've been in Hollywood a half hour and already she's seen Lana Turner,
Clark Gable, Gary Cooper, Marilyn Monroe and a dog that looked like Lassie.
 
LUCY:
Well, I don't care. I'm in Hollywood and I want to see a real live movie star.
 
BOBBY:
Well, i-if it'll help you any lady, ah, I've been in pictures.
 
ETHEL:
You have?
 
LUCY:
Oh?
 
BOBBY:
Yeah, the last picture I made was Julius Caesar.
 
ETHEL:
I saw that.
 
LUCY:
Yeah, so did I. Which one were you?
 
BOBBY:
Remember when Caesar came out on the steps of the forum to address the crowd?
 
ETHEL:
Yeah.
 
LUCY:
Yeah.
 
BOBBY:
Well didn't you see me?
(raises hand in a salute and recites)
"Hail Caesar!"
"Hail Caesar!"
"Hail Caesar!"
 
LUCY:
Oh. Well, ah, your hand does look familiar.

BOBBY:
I got four days work out of that.
 
RICKY:
Is that right?
 
LUCY:
Well that's good.
 
Then the scene continues in the familiar fashion:
 
BOBBY:
(to Mertzes)
Your room is down the hall here.
___
 
I have tried to find out somewhere online anyone talking about where this 50 seconds was
found or whatever, but I haven't found anyone discussing it at all.  If you happen to, please
let me know!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 24, 2015, 04:38:27 PM
 :'( :'(

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/97/19/7c/97197c6f9787fd0a2518f191b05b0479.jpg)

 (CNN) Comedy great Anne Meara, one half of the comedy team "Stiller & Meara," died at 85 on Saturday, her family said.


Meara and her husband, Jerry Stiller, were married for 61 years and worked together almost as long, the family said in a statement. In addition to her husband, she is survived by her children, comic actor Ben Stiller, daughter Amy Stiller and grandchildren.

"Anne's memory lives on in the hearts of daughter Amy, son Ben, her grandchildren, her extended family and friends, and the millions she entertained as an actress, writer and comedienne," the family statement said.

Meara was born in 1929 in Brooklyn, New York. In his autobiography, "Married to Laughter: A Love Story Featuring Anne Meara," Jerry Stiller describes meeting his future wife at a casting call in 1953.

"She looked sort of puritanical and smelled nice," he said of the "angel-faced" aspiring actress.

They eventually teamed up for a comedy act in New York's Greenwich Village coffeehouses, playing exaggerated versions of themselves: self-deprecating, kvetching New Yorkers. Before long, they were performing as comedy team "Stiller & Meara" on popular TV shows of the 1960s including "The Ed Sullivan Show" and "The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson."

They became become regulars on the game show circuit appearing on shows such as "Hollywood Squares" and "$25,000 Pyramid" before Meara landed the role of Sally Gallagher on the TV series "Rhoda."

Meara went on to play hundreds of TV roles in the 1980s and 1990s, appearing in hit shows from "The Love Boat" to "ALF" to "Sex and the City."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 24, 2015, 06:40:52 PM
So sorry to hear about Anne Meara. I used to love watching her and Jerry Stiller work together.

Meanwhile, yesterday morning,  caught a ME-TV broadcast of an episode of Daniel Boone that co-starred William Smith:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0810342/?ref_=nv_sr_1 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0810342/?ref_=nv_sr_1)

I knew him first as one of the Texas Rangers in Laredo. Apparently he did several episodes of Daniel Boone, but I remember him for two where he played an Indian and wore no shirt, showing off his great physique. He had a six-pack before anyone even knew what a six-pack was.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 24, 2015, 09:29:15 PM
Logo TV has added this to the line-up.

(http://a.abcnews.com/images/Entertainment/gty_facts-of_life_orig_cast_kb_140916_16x9_992.jpg)


Logo usually ads shows like this to the line up when an actor comes out as LGBT.   Apparently it's been added because Geraldine Ann "Geri" Jewell, who played Blair's cousin with cerebral palsy is lesbian.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 28, 2015, 12:08:14 PM
Lately I've been using my complete set of Daniel Boone on DVD to revisit some of the episodes I remember from childhood. It's been quite amusing to note how many times Daniel loses his rifle--but he always seems to have it back, sometimes even by the end of the episode!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 28, 2015, 01:27:40 PM
the magic of TV!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 30, 2015, 02:07:50 PM
I'm sure it's been discussed before how fun it is to see actors in old TV shows before they became really big (e.g., the time I stumbled on an episode of Murder, She Wrote that included a very young Bryan Cranston).

But I've also started thinking about some of the actors I see in these old shows who seemed to have what it takes--looks, as much talent as the next--and yet they just sort of disappeared. Makes you wonder what happened to these people, what directions their lives took.  ???

I'll just give an example. The other night I was watching another Daniel Boone episode, and the cast included a young guy billed as Joseph Hoover. He had curly brown hair, big blue eyes, a big, bright smile, and a nice, slim physique. In other words, at least in my view, he was a hottie--and he was no better nor no worse than anybody else in the episode. And yet I've never seen or heard of him anyplace else.  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 30, 2015, 02:29:01 PM
I'm sure it's been discussed before how fun it is to see actors in old TV shows before they became really big (e.g., the time I stumbled on an episode of Murder, She Wrote that included a very young Bryan Cranston).

But I've also started thinking about some of the actors I see in these old shows who seemed to have what it takes--looks, as much talent as the next--and yet they just sort of disappeared. Makes you wonder what happened to these people, what directions their lives took.  ???

I'll just give an example. The other night I was watching another Daniel Boone episode, and the cast included a young guy billed as Joseph Hoover. He had curly brown hair, big blue eyes, a big, bright smile, and a nice, slim physique. In other words, at least in my view, he was a hottie--and he was no better nor no worse than anybody else in the episode. And yet I've never seen or heard of him anyplace else.  :-\

Is this him, Jeff?

(http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsH/79408-8328.jpg)

If so, he was in  "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance", Captain Loomis in "Hell Is for Heroes", and Lieutenant Blanchard in the 1966 remake of "Stagecoach". He 82 yo, and was last in something in 2014.

Here is his IMDb profile:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0393899/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 30, 2015, 02:53:25 PM
Is this him, Jeff?

(http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsH/79408-8328.jpg)

If so, he was in  "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance", Captain Loomis in "Hell Is for Heroes", and Lieutenant Blanchard in the 1966 remake of "Stagecoach". He 82 yo, and was last in something in 2014.

Here is his IMDb profile:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0393899/

For Heaven's sake! That's him! I never even thought to look him up!  :D

According the episode guide I found on line, the Daniel Boone episode aired Dec. 8, 1966.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 31, 2015, 01:48:06 AM
For Heaven's sake! That's him! I never even thought to look him up!  :D

According the episode guide I found on line, the Daniel Boone episode aired Dec. 8, 1966.

Yes, Jeff.
Here is the IMDb listing:

Daniel Boone (TV Series)
Chad Oliver - The Lost Colony (1966) ... Chad Oliver
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 31, 2015, 07:56:36 AM
Yes, Jeff.
Here is the IMDb listing:

Daniel Boone (TV Series)
Chad Oliver - The Lost Colony (1966) ... Chad Oliver

Yup. He's listed in the Daniel Boone episode guide I found on line, as well as the closing credits; that's how I found his name.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on June 11, 2015, 07:08:45 PM


 (CNN) If television is a mirror of its times, the 1970s were a very confused era indeed.

The most popular shows of the decade's first half, such as "All in the Family," took on social issues with directness and passion. By the late '70s, however, the biggest hits -- "Happy Days," "Laverne & Shirley," "The Love Boat" -- were about nostalgia and escapism.

But what do you expect from a decade that went from demonstrations to disco?

So much of '70s television is remembered through rose-colored picture tubes these days, but the decade's programming was often mediocre. With just three networks -- ABC, NBC and CBS -- playing to the most mass of mass audiences, excellence was generally the exception, not the rule.

It's not for nothing that John Belushi, in auditioning for "Saturday Night Live" -- one of the decade's breakthrough shows -- bragged that his television was covered in spit.

So if the history of the '70s is a series of mixed messages, here are seven that tell the tale:


http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/07/entertainment/feat-seventies-tv-shows/index.html


See how many your remember!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 12, 2015, 12:16:29 PM
So if the history of the '70s is a series of mixed messages, here are seven that tell the tale:
___

See how many your remember!

Besides the "7", there's a photo list of 31 other seventies tv "tales."

I remember, in one way or another, all of these things!

This isn't a tv series, but they mention:

Defining moments in '70s television: THAT CERTAIN SUMMER

Out on the small screen – On November 1, 1972, ABC's movie of the week, "That Certain Summer," told the story of a teenager forced to come to terms with his divorced father's homosexuality. Starring Hal Holbrook, Martin Sheen, Hope Lange and Scott Jacoby as the teenage son, it was the first sympathetic portrayal of gay characters on network television.
__

I do not recall when this movie first aired, nor anyone talking about it or much else. This was, perhaps,
because I had other things on my mind; I was in my first months of college and TV's were few and far
between for most of us then.  Hard to believe, now, with pictures and video attached to the hand of
every college student nowadays and nearly any subject within reach, whether you want it or not.

By the next spring I do remember knowing about it because I remember the boy who played the son
won an Emmy for the role.  (I looked it up, it was nominated for seven emmy's and won only this one.
It won Best TV film Golden Globe.) I don't think gay people thought much of this film at the time as it
was "so dramatic" -- meaning laughable -- to those who really were gay. I saw it sometime a few years
later, but I don't have much memory of it at all.  I'd love to watch it with a bunch of gay guys now.
We'd probably laugh our heads off. That's the impression I get. It might be why one never sees it
appear any more.

As for this article, they touch bases with every seeming innovation that was to become bigger later
on, but they've mysteriously omitted two programs that were the beginnings of so-called "reality
television."  One was the documentary series about the Loud family where they followed them around
observing their daily life while they dealt with divorce and the son being gay, for instance, and the other
was the Real People series on NBC.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: canmark on June 14, 2015, 12:23:54 PM
Watched the TV episode of the CNN series The Seventies and wish it had been twice as long. Although I was just a child in the 70s, to me it was TVs best decade.

One of the strengths was the diversity. There were female-driven shows like Mary Tyler Moore, One Day at a Time and Alice (not to mention the Bionic Woman, Wonder Woman and Charlie’s Angels) featuring strong, working, unmarried women; African-American families like Good Times, The Jeffersons and Sanford and Son (and the Latino Chico and the Man); large and blended families like the Brady Bunch, Partridge Family and Eight Is Enough; shows with strident and outspoken (even offensive) characters like All in the Family and Maude that weren’t afraid to tackle controversial issues like homosexuality, racism, rape and abortion; shows with multiethnic casts like Welcome Back Kotter, Barney Miller and The White Shadow; talk shows like Phil Donahue and Merv Griffin and Mike Douglas that were introducing a diversity of stars and subjects; and a miniseries like Roots could capture the attention of the entire nation.

As a child growing up in the 70s I learned so much about the world from TV. Shows like James at 15 would teach me lessons about my upcoming teenage years. Good Times and Fat Albert would teach me about urban African-Americans families in both the similarities and differences to my own Japanese-Canadian family, just as the Brady Bunch or Eight Is Enough would teach me about suburban white families. Women-led shows would teach me that women were capable of leading their own lives and not dependent on men. And expanding coverage of activism – antiwar, civil rights, women’s rights, gay rights, etc. – would inform me of the world outside my neighborhood.

Shows like American Bandstand and Soul Train would teach me about new music and the disco scene, as would performances by the likes of the Village People and Diana Ross on the popular variety shows of the day (like the Sonny and Cher show).

I would also appreciate the more simpleminded, yet is still enjoyable comedies of the era, such as Happy Days, Laverne & Shirley and Three’s Company. There were, of course, better quality comedies like M*A*S*H, TAXI, Bob Newhart and the like, but I liked them all equally.

I remember watching both Rich Man, Poor Man and Roots miniseries, although I wonder if I watched them live or on reruns. I would have only been nine or 10 years old at the time of their original airing. I can’t imagine a nine-year-old appreciating an adult drama like Rich Man, Poor Man, although I know I later read the novel upon which it’s based. I don’t think I’ve seen Roots since, but I still vividly remember the scene where LeVar Burton is being whipped when asked his name and he replies Kunta Kinte instead of his slave name, Toby.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on June 14, 2015, 01:31:42 PM
What an amazing post, Mark! Being of different ages, my decade of the 70's was very different from yours. TV viewing was not a big thing for me, as it was late teens and 20's for me. The early part of the decade had me in the convent, so no TV watching for me, plus I started college. The next 8 years was more college and then marriage, so basically starting my adult life. I remember so many of those shows, but also remember I was not a regular viewer if any of them, because of school and working. I remember working 40 hours a week and going to school full time at night. Not much time left for TV viewing. It is amazing to me how much different what we learned in the seventies, just because of our age difference.

Thanks again for the amazing post.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: oilgun on June 14, 2015, 07:53:55 PM
What I liked about the seventies is that pretty much everyone watched the same shows because there were so few networks. Now I mention a TV show at work or here, and often, people have never even heard of it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 15, 2015, 08:23:20 AM
What I liked about the seventies is that pretty much everyone watched the same shows because there were so few networks. Now I mention a TV show at work or here, and often, people have never even heard of it.

Same here!

Choice in viewing is a good thing, but I think it can get overwhelming. Sometimes I come across newspaper or magazine articles about shows that I've never even heard of.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 16, 2015, 01:32:33 PM

There's another new RETRO channel called BUZZR.

It's showing seventies game shows like MATCH GAME and FAMILY FEUD
and some early 80's ones like SUPER PASSWORD and PRESS YOUR LUCK
and CARD SHARKS.

I've also seen TATTLETALES and the Monty Hall LET'S MAKE A DEAL.
(Try to guess prices from the 60's & 70's!)

Late at night they show the black & white episodes of TO TELL THE TRUTH,
WHAT'S MY LINE and I'VE GOT A SECRET, all from the 50's and early 60's and
all with the original commercials!  Ever heard of STOPETTE?

They also have some that I wasn't familiar with, like CHILD's PLAY, BODY LANGUAGE
and BLOCKBUSTERS.

I like to watch game shows, but it can be somewhat creepy to watch these...your mind
starts transportiing you to years ago and you think of things you haven't thought of since
they happened.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 16, 2015, 01:59:36 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing some episodes of I've Got A Secret, To Tell the Truth, and What's My Line?

Not game shows, but how about Candid Camera and This Is Your Life?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 16, 2015, 02:26:11 PM

I never saw any This Is Your Life episodes, except clips here and there. I sure
wouldn't mind seeing Candid Camera, though.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 16, 2015, 05:11:54 PM
I never saw any This Is Your Life episodes, except clips here and there. I sure
wouldn't mind seeing Candid Camera, though.

I remember Candid Camera, maybe from syndication, with Allen Funt, Durward Kirby, and Fannie Flagg.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 23, 2015, 05:02:29 PM
Sad news. I just read on AOL News that Dick Van Patten has died at age 86 from complications of diabetes.

We never watched Eight Is Enough, but, gosh, who didn't know Dick Van Patten?

 :'(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on June 23, 2015, 05:56:22 PM
Just heard about this on the news, Jeff. It is sad.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 24, 2015, 11:53:41 AM

My Dick Van Patten sighting:

The first year I was in California at Thanksgiving, with the prospect of nothing to do or people to be with,
I thought I'd get a ticket for the TONIGHT SHOW. I thought it would be easier to get into as it was a
holiday and it might be something exciting to do instead of, perhaps, feeling mopey. So I did. I had
no idea who the guests would be that night. It was when the show was still 90 minutes.

Last year I happened to discover this full episode of the Tonight Show is online!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mThHBZvnMaY

Synopsis:

Full episode of "The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson" on Thanksgiving with comedian Buddy Hackett, actor Dick Van Patten, singer Kelly Garrett, and pediatrician Doctor Lendon Smith. Johnny Carson reads kids' letters that describe how to cook a turkey for Thanksgiving.

Interesting, but I did recall that Dick Van Patten was on the show, but had no recollection of any of
the others!

The following year I saw him and his handsome sons, Vince Van Patten and Jimmy Van Patten among
them, in the Hollywood Christmas Parade. If I recall, they were expert (maybe even ranked) tennis
players and in the parade a couple sons would take turns batting a tennis ball to one another in the
street.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 26, 2015, 07:54:09 AM
I read last night that Patrick MacNee, of The Avengers fame, has died at age 93.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 03, 2015, 10:59:35 AM
^^^

A friend of mine told me he was surprised to learn that he lived in California most of his life.
Even "before" he was hired for The Avengers!


 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 03, 2015, 11:00:44 AM

If anyone wants to browse:

http://www.davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=35641.3105

A couple conversations have ensued about 70's television on this forum thread.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 03, 2015, 03:18:00 PM
^^^

A friend of mine told me he was surprised to learn that he lived in California most of his life.
Even "before" he was hired for The Avengers!

That surprised me, too. I didn't know that.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 03, 2015, 03:21:03 PM
Today being my work holiday for Independence Day, I was tuning in for Daniel Boone on Me-TV this morning, and I caught the tail end of an Andy Griffith Show episode. The high school principal was being played by Leon Ames--I recognized him immediately--who, I guess, more or less made a career of playing father figures (e.g., Judy Garland's father in Meet Me in St. Louis).
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 03, 2015, 03:34:18 PM
If anyone wants to browse:

http://www.davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=35641.3105

A couple conversations have ensued about 70's television on this forum thread.


Thanks for the link, Lyle. I don't seem to remember any of those "gay episodes" from the '70s. Maybe something vague about Archie Bunker's friend Stretch Cunningham being "a fairy," but that's about it.  ???
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 04, 2015, 01:22:29 PM
In the very first season there was a specific episode about Archie hating Mike's friend
because he had stereotypical qualities so Archie assumed he was a "fruit". Archie talks
to his old football buddy in the bar about it whom Mike finds out actually is gay. Archie
cannot believe it when he admits that he is. It was called "Judging Books By Covers."

There were others, too, though. I remember one when two gay activists come to their
house with campaign literature to support their cause. Though not really gay themed,
but borderline, there was the episode where Archie is moonlighting driving his friend's cab
and he gives mouth to mouth resuscitation to a female impersonator. That was one of the
most amusing episodes of the entire series, just because of Archie's reactions. It was so good
they did another episode where Archie used "her" to play a joke on his friend Barney, which
backfires. Then there was a two-parter, set at the holidays, where Edith questions her faith
when harm comes to that character. They never say that the female impersonator character
is gay. We only see him in drag and the character is always called by the drag name which was
Beverly something. I assume most people in the viewing audience just assumed the character
was gay because it fits a stereotype.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 04, 2015, 01:27:07 PM

Has any series ever done a July 4th themed episode? The reason, obviously,
that there may not be any is that the usual television season is way over by
then, but there might be odd one that someone remembers along the way.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 05, 2015, 08:06:30 PM
Just finished watching a DVD of an episode of Wagon Train from 1959 called "The C.L. Harding Story." The principal guest star was actress Claire Trevor, but the real surprise was someone else in the cast for the episode, the Man in Black himself, Johnny Cash. He was young, but there was no mistaking him, especially that voice.

Earlier this weekend I watched an episode with Mickey Rooney as the guest star. A supporting guest star was Ellen Corby ("Grandma Walton").
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 06, 2015, 10:37:40 AM

I saw an early episode of The Untouchables with Claire Trevor playing Ma Barker!
One of her sons girlfriends was played by Louise Fletcher!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 06, 2015, 11:21:19 AM
I saw an early episode of The Untouchables with Claire Trevor playing Ma Barker!
One of her sons girlfriends was played by Louise Fletcher!

Not to veer off into movies, but I love her in Stagecoach--where she got top billing, above the Duke.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 06, 2015, 11:42:36 AM
I saw an early episode of The Untouchables with Claire Trevor playing Ma Barker!
One of her sons girlfriends was played by Louise Fletcher!

Trevor did that the same year she did the Wagon Train, 1959:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claire_Trevor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claire_Trevor)

It was fun to watch two old pros, her and Ward Bond, have at it in the Wagon Train episode.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 11, 2015, 09:41:26 AM
This morning's episode of Daniel Boone on Me-TV was the third-to-last episode of the series, from the spring of 1970, and the cast included a certain child actress by the name of Jodie Foster.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on July 11, 2015, 09:57:44 AM
I thought it must be one of the last episodes.  Thanks for the confirmation, Jeff.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on July 11, 2015, 01:02:15 PM
Oh what a shame.

RIP Roger Reese

Roger Rees was a Welsh actor and director. He was best known to American audiences for playing the characters Robin Colcord on the American television sitcom show Cheers and Lord John Marbury on the American television drama The West Wing. He was 71 and married to Rick Elice.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/11/entertainment/roger-rees-actor-dies/

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150711083113-roger-rees-medium-plus-169.jpg)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Rees
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: gnash on July 11, 2015, 01:31:33 PM
oh how sad...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on July 11, 2015, 02:01:42 PM
Here is a The New Yorker article published in 2012 about he and his husband's history. I can't link the article because they want me to subscribe.

The Boards June 4, 2012 Issue
Backstory
By Michael Schulman

For sixteen years, the actor Roger Rees and the playwright Rick Elice have lived in a book-crammed apartment in the Beresford, on Central Park West. Elice (New Yorker, garrulous) is the author of “Peter and the Starcatcher,” a fanciful prequel to “Peter Pan,” which has been nominated for nine Tony Awards. Rees (Welshman, genteel) co-directed, with Alex Timbers. (Elice also co-wrote, with Marshall Brickman, the books for “Jersey Boys” and “The Addams Family,” in which Rees starred, as Gomez.) To understand how Rees and Elice became partners, in art and in life, you have to go back a ways, they explained the other day, as a hired computer geek fiddled upstairs, trying to synch the couple’s electronic devices.

1979: Elice, a young actor out of the Yale School of Drama, wrote a letter to Trevor Nunn, then the artistic director of the Royal Shakespeare Company, saying, “I’m getting on a plane and I’m coming over to the R.S.C. Tell me what time to show up.” Two weeks later, Nunn replied: Not hiring Americans.

1981: Nunn’s mammoth eight-and-a-half-hour production of “The Life and Adventures of Nicholas Nickleby” came to New York. Elice was incensed: “I went to Equity and said, ‘I would like to start a committee to keep British actors out of Broadway.’ ” (“British Out of Broadway would be BOOB,” Rees added.) Elice went to see the play anyway. From the nosebleeds, he noticed a “devastatingly beautiful” actor milling around before the show. Turns out it was the guy playing Nicholas Nickleby. Enraptured, Elice wrote a letter that night on yellow legal paper, inviting Rees to come see him do a tap number at a benefit. He dropped it off at the theatre the next day. No response.

1982: Elice was working at an ad agency, and one of his clients was “Cats,” also directed by Nunn. At the dress rehearsal, he spotted Rees in the audience. He waited outside the stage door to introduce himself. “Standing before me was a six-foot-four, extraordinarily handsome American in a Burberry raincoat,” Rees recalled. “It was the raincoat that did it.” Rees was flying to London in two days, to star in Tom Stoppard’s “The Real Thing.” Did he have time for dinner before then?

The next night, Elice prepared pigeon en croűte at his apartment, on West Fifty-seventh Street (Rees: “The croűte was bigger than the apartment”). They talked until three in the morning, then Rees got in a car to J.F.K. He told Elice, “Maybe you’ll come over and see me in ‘The Real Thing.’ ”

1987ish: They’d been dating long-distance, with Elice flying to London on weekends. One day, while they were repainting Rees’s foyer, Elice moved a filing cabinet and found some papers labelled “Rick’s Correspondence.” One of the letters was written on yellow legal paper.

1989: Rees was in Los Angeles, doing another Stoppard play, when he was offered a recurring role on “Cheers,” as Kirstie Alley’s rich suitor. He sold his house in London and moved to L.A. “So, once again, we were three thousand miles apart,” Rees said.

1995: Rees relocated, finally, to New York. There was a vacant apartment in the Beresford. “Unbeknownst to us, it had been on the market for a year and a half,” Elice said. “The woman who owned it had instructed her broker, ‘Whoever the next person is, just sell them the fucking apartment.’ ”

1999: Elice was still working at the ad agency, but the deadlines were gruelling. “I was having more sleepless nights,” he recalled. “I was getting fatter. I suddenly needed to see a therapist.” Rees colluded with a pal at Disney to get Elice a job as a “creative consultant.” “They saved me,” Elice said. “And it’s only because I left advertising that I was able to take advantage of an opportunity like somebody saying, ‘I have the option on the Four Seasons catalogue. Are you interested in writing a musical about them?’ ”

2011: On June 24th, the New York State Senate voted to legalize gay marriage. Elice: “Roger came home from ‘The Addams Family’ that night and said, ‘Do you want to get married?’ I said, ‘I don’t know—it seems like a big step!’ ”

“I can’t believe you said that.”

“The next day, I was walking by the dog park over by the Planetarium, and I realized I had pissed on this very sweet moment. So when he came home that night I said, ‘Yeah, by all means, let’s do this.’ ” August: they got married at the City Clerk’s Office. Afterward: pancakes at Bubby’s.

2012: “Peter and the Starcatcher” opens on Broadway. “There’s a scene that the girl hero, Molly, has with the boy,” Elice said. “Roger wanted a scene where the two of them sort of fall in love. When it came to writing it, I cast Roger in the role of the wiser character. She says, ‘I will love words,’ which Roger taught me to do. Then she says, ‘I’m going to be part of a different sort of family.’ "

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: morrobay on July 11, 2015, 02:32:24 PM
One of my favorite scenes from all 7 seasons of the West Wing.  The episode is Dead Irish Writers, with Roger Rees and Richard Schiff - 2 excellent actors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL3vz5oeAfw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL3vz5oeAfw)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on July 11, 2015, 02:45:55 PM
Veering off a little bit.

This has always been one of my all time  favorites!!

https://youtu.be/jYaewOBGybw
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: morrobay on July 11, 2015, 02:46:58 PM
Yes!  Another great scene..now I want crab puffs!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 11, 2015, 02:48:36 PM
Oh what a shame.

RIP Roger Reese

Roger Rees was a Welsh actor and director. He was best known to American audiences for playing the characters Robin Colcord on the American television sitcom show Cheers and Lord John Marbury on the American television drama The West Wing. He was 71 and married to Rick Elice.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/11/entertainment/roger-rees-actor-dies/

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150711083113-roger-rees-medium-plus-169.jpg)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Rees

Oh, my gosh!  :o

I see him every Christmastime, because he played Fred Hollywell, and does the narration, for the George C. Scott version of A Christmas Carol.

He also did a few shots on Elementary recently.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 11, 2015, 02:55:21 PM
Here is a The New Yorker article published in 2012 about he and his husband's history. I can't link the article because they want me to subscribe.

The Boards June 4, 2012 Issue
Backstory
By Michael Schulman



I remember that little article. Until then I had no idea Roger Rees was gay. But then I live under a rock, so. ...  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on July 11, 2015, 03:14:19 PM
Yes!  Another great scene..now I want crab puffs!

Me too!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 11, 2015, 04:59:07 PM
I thought it must be one of the last episodes.  Thanks for the confirmation, Jeff.

I'll be curious to see what Me-TV is going to do. After today's Daniel Boone episode with the child Jodie Foster in it, there are only two more till they finish the series. Are they going to go back to the beginning, with the first season--in black and white--or will they discontinue running the series?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: gnash on July 11, 2015, 05:09:47 PM
thanks linda,

it sounds like roger and rick had a nice life together. how sweet.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on July 11, 2015, 06:41:09 PM
Veering off a little bit.

This has always been one of my all time  favorites!!

https://youtu.be/jYaewOBGybw

YES!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on July 11, 2015, 06:56:41 PM
thanks linda,

it sounds like roger and rick had a nice life together. how sweet.  :)

Yeah, it sure sounds like it, Jimmy. I am sad for Rick.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 12, 2015, 11:11:52 AM
Last night I watched Bette Davis' first guest appearance on Wagon Train, from Season 2 (Feb. 1959), "The Ella Lindstrom Story." The guest cast also included Robert Fuller, who later became a regular, as scout Cooper Smith, after Robert Horton left the show.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 12, 2015, 02:09:36 PM
I'll be curious to see what Me-TV is going to do. After today's Daniel Boone episode with the child Jodie Foster in it, there are only two more till they finish the series. Are they going to go back to the beginning, with the first season--in black and white--or will they discontinue running the series?

Neither!  It looks like on Wednesday they are starting over with the second season.

You can view the schedule here:
http://metvnetwork.com/schedule/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 12, 2015, 03:17:11 PM
Neither!  It looks like on Wednesday they are starting over with the second season.

You can view the schedule here:
http://metvnetwork.com/schedule/


Thanks, Lyle. So they're sticking with the "color" seasons of Daniel Boone.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 08, 2015, 09:32:52 AM
Thanks, Lyle. So they're sticking with the "color" seasons of Daniel Boone.

This morning's Me-TV episode of Daniel Boone, from the second season, had Daniel in New Orleans looking for a man who tried to kill him and stole his boatload of furs (the character was played by Michael Ansara). One of the minor, supporting characters in the episode, a New Orleans fur buyer, was named ... Marcel Proust!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 11, 2015, 07:55:52 PM
Nothing on TV this evening that I wanted to watch, so I watched the DVD of a Daniel Boone episode first broadcast in early 1966--with Mr. Spock himself, Leonard Nimoy, as a Seminole Indian.  ;D  Diane Ladd was in the cast, too.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on August 15, 2015, 06:49:28 PM
Just trying to get caught up on this post, lots of action!


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Title: Re: Classic TV
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on August 15, 2015, 06:53:14 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on August 15, 2015, 06:53:56 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on August 15, 2015, 06:54:51 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on August 15, 2015, 06:55:54 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on August 15, 2015, 06:58:02 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on August 15, 2015, 07:00:35 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 15, 2015, 08:17:36 PM
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Kent McCord was hot. ...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 15, 2015, 09:05:25 PM
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LOGO Network has been playing marathons of this one now.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 19, 2015, 04:24:40 AM

Yvonne Joyce Craig (May 16, 1937 - August 17, 2015) was an American ballet dancer and actress best known for her role as Batgirl from the 1960s TV series Batman, and as the Orion Marta in the Star Trek: The Original Series episode “Whom Gods Destroy”.

Yvonne Craig was born in Taylorville, Illinois, and grew up in Columbus, Ohio, for the first 14 years of her life.  She originally trained to be a ballet dancer and was a member of the corps de ballet of the Ballet Russe de Monte Carlo in the 1950s.  Gradually, she moved into acting, and in 1959 appeared in three films: The Young Land, The Gene Krupa Story, and Gidget. She also had a guest role as Beverly Mills in the 1959 episode "Little Miss Wow" of the television series Mr. Lucky. In 1960, she appeared with Bing Crosby in High Time.

In the following year, she appeared with Cesar Romero in Seven Women from Hell. Romero would later play the Joker in Batman. Another connection to Batman occurred when Craig appeared in "The Case of the Lazy Lover", a 1958 episode of the television series Perry Mason, which also featured Neil Hamilton as her stepfather. Hamilton would later play her father, Commissioner Gordon, in Batman.

Yvonne starred in roles with Elvis Presley in two films: It Happened at the World's Fair (1963) and Kissin' Cousins (1964). She also starred in the cult sci-fi film Mars Needs Women (1966), and appeared in In Like Flint (1967) as a Russian ballet dancer opposite James Coburn.


In the 1960s, with film roles beginning to taper off, she moved into television, appearing in several shows, including The Barbara Stanwyck Show, Death Valley Days, Hennesey, and My Three Sons. Craig appeared five times on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis, portraying five separate girlfriends for the titular character between 1959 and 1962. One of her more memorable roles came in 1969 when Craig appeared on Star Trek as Marta, a green-skinned Orion slave girl in the third-season episode "Whom Gods Destroy".

In a 1965 episode of The Man from U.N.C.L.E. ("The Brain-Killer Affair"), she helps solve the mystery of a brain-endangering poison.  In 1966, she appeared as an U.N.C.L.E. employee in a theatrical film, One Spy Too Many (expanded from a 1965 Season Two episode, "The Alexander the Greater Affair").

In a 1966 episode of The Wild Wild West ("The Night of the Grand Emir"), she played an assassin who performs an exotic Arabian dance. She also played a US Navy Nurse with exotic Arabian dance skills in an episode of McHale's Navy ("Pumpkin Takes Over", 1965). She appeared in an episode of The Big Valley with Lee Majors and Barbara Stanwyck.

In 1967, she appeared on The Dating Game.

In a 1968 episode of The Ghost & Mrs. Muir ("Haunted Honeymoon"), she played a bride-to-be stranded overnight at Gull Cottage.

In a 1970 episode of Land of the Giants ("Wild Journey"), she played one-half of a humanoid, time-observing duo (alongside Bruce Dern) who chase two of the earth castaways ( series stars Gary Conway & Don Marshall) into the past, ultimately forcing them to relive the flight which sent them to the giants' planet.

Craig's highest profile would come with the cult 1960s television series Batman as Batgirl (and her alter ego, librarian Barbara Gordon, Commissioner Gordon's daughter). She appeared in the final (1967–1968) season.  Batgirl's true identity was unknown to Batman and Robin, and their true identities were unknown to her; only Alfred, the butler for Bruce Wayne/Batman, was aware of Batgirl's identity. Craig felt some connection to the character and complained to DC Comics after Barbara Gordon was shot and paralyzed by the Joker in the 1988 graphic novel Batman: The Killing Joke.



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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 19, 2015, 07:40:45 AM
Sad news.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on August 19, 2015, 08:23:45 AM
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Sorry to hear that, she was such a beautiful woman!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 24, 2015, 08:43:42 PM
Just this evening I was finally able to catch up on Friday's newspaper,  ::)  so I just learned that Bud Yorkin, Norman Lear's producing partner, died last Tuesday, Aug. 18. at the age of 89. Yorkin worked with Lear to create All in the Family and Sanford and Son.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 25, 2015, 10:14:10 AM

I'd heard Johnny Carson's Tonight Show was going to come to Antenna-TV in a few months.
I read a Variety article about it today. Here's part of it.

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Just when it seemed the late-night landscape couldn’t get more competitive, here comes Johnny Carson.

Tribune Media’s Antenna TV, the multicast digital channel devoted to vintage television shows, will run full-length episodes of “The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson” nightly at 11 p.m. ET/8 p.m. PT starting in a few months. (The same episode will have an encore airing at 2 a.m. ET/11 p.m. PT.)

Antenna TV has struck a multi-year deal with Carson Entertainment Group to license hundreds of hours of the NBC late-night institution. Antenna will run episodes that aired from 1972 through the end of Carson’s 30-year reign in 1992. Because NBC owns the rights to “The Tonight Show” moniker, Antenna TV’s episodes will be billed simply as “Johnny Carson.”

(Sadly, the first 10 years of Carson’s “Tonight Show” are lost to history, with only a handful of episodes that survive. When the “Tonight Show” made its historic move from New York to Burbank in 1972, Carson realized that NBC had no archive of his older episodes. From then on, Carson Entertainment invested in state-of-the-art archival technology to preserve his legacy — a focus that continues today.)

Antenna’s showcase will mark the first time Carson-era “Tonight Show” episodes have aired on a nightly basis since the host signed off in May 1992.

“The Tonight Show” ran in a 90-minute format from the start of Carson’s run in 1962 until 1980, when it was trimmed to an hour. Antenna will air hourlong episodes on weeknights and 90-minute installments on Saturday and Sunday at 10 p.m. ET/7 p.m. PT. The same episode will have an encore airing each night a few hours later.

The scheduling of episodes will be carefully curated to run as themed weeks or months, as well as episodes that coincide with notable anniversaries, holidays and other milestones. Those could include everything from a week’s worth of “Tonight Show” debuts by future comedy superstars such as Jerry Seinfeld, Jay Leno, Ellen DeGeneres, Richard Pryor, David Letterman, Jim Carrey and Tim Allen to a month of Christmas episodes in December. The plan is for Antenna to be nimble in programming episodes on short notice to respond to headlines and current events.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 25, 2015, 11:24:56 AM
(Sadly, the first 10 years of Carson’s “Tonight Show” are lost to history, with only a handful of episodes that survive. When the “Tonight Show” made its historic move from New York to Burbank in 1972, Carson realized that NBC had no archive of his older episodes. From then on, Carson Entertainment invested in state-of-the-art archival technology to preserve his legacy — a focus that continues today.)

They're being kind about this situation.  NBC "DID" have an archive of the Tonight Show's New York run
of ten years. Someone at NBC actually ordered the entire ten year run of The Tonight Show, which had been
stored on the only thing available to do so back then, which was voluminous large videotapes--NBC ordered it
all ERASED so they could save space and reuse the videotapes.  Not only the Tonight Show, but practically
every other game show they had in the vaults (like the Hollywood Squares) and World Series games they'd
broadcast and dozens of other things that have spawned dozens of angsty websites devoted to this extreme
lack of foresight by many at NBC at the time.

Not only did Carson "realize" this when the show moved to Burbank, but he was  f  u  r  i  o  u  s  about it.
He was angry not only that they did it, but that theydidn't even ask him about it. So much so that "he"
didn't ask, but demanded that he have the rights to the show from then on and NBC was in no position
to argue about it at that point.

There are a few episodes around because some of them were recorded for overseas military broadcasts
and if they weren't returned or discarded they've been discovered. Some NBC affiliates in different states
had people who kinescoped some of the episodes, too, if they happened to be particularly interested in
the guests.

I'm not sure, but Jack Paar may have had rights to his own episodes because many of those seem to be
available. In any case, NBC lost a lot of revenue when cable and home video formats appeared where they
could've made tons of money from all those programs they erased. They probably thought that ten years
of game shows were worthless, but there they are on at least two separate game shows channels nowadays!

(Because I am a huge fan of Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In, I'm particularly sad that they erased the 4 months of
the afternoon show "Letters to Laugh-In" from 1969.  Apparently they got the idea for this show because so
many viewers started sending in jokes to the weekly show. Which they couldn't use, obviously, and most of them
were old jokes. Instead of seeing this as a nuisance, they decided to encourage it by having viewers send in jokes
to the "Letters" program. They would have four celebrities each week read the jokes to the studio audience
and a panel of ten members from the audience sitting in the front would turn a dial and come up with a rating
for each joke. The joke with the highest and lowest ratings each day won a prize. The highest rated of the week
would win a trip to Hawaii and the lowest rated of the week would win a trip to Burbank, lol! Two of each week's
celebrities would be from the Laugh-In program and Gary Owens hosted the show.  In fact, Lily Tomlin actually
appeared on Letters to Laugh-In the week before she premiered on Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In!

Even though the weekly show was #1 in the ratings, this afternoon show didn't do well. I remember it
being too frenetic and free form for a late afternoon show and the celebrities got out of hand too much,
which would be annoying. It was also up against the Dark Shadows fad at it's height.

There IS at least one of the Letters to Laugh-In episodes still around. I don't know if it's still there
but last year I stumbled across one someone had posted on youtube!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 25, 2015, 11:38:26 AM
There IS at least one of the Letters to Laugh-In episodes still around. I don't know if it's still there
but last year I stumbled across one someone had posted on youtube!

It IS still there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvYB7vV4bC8

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 25, 2015, 12:20:21 PM
It's a shame all those Carson tapes were lost. They were historical records. But the same sort of thing has happened to all sorts of historical records down through the centuries, and sometimes just as deliberately. This is just of a piece.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on August 30, 2015, 06:29:07 AM
Happy Birthday, Shirley Booth!

Let's go watch some HAZEL!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 30, 2015, 11:06:13 AM
Happy Birthday, Shirley Booth!

Let's go watch some HAZEL!

I remember Hazel.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 05, 2015, 09:35:37 AM
Well, it appears no more Daniel Boone on ME-TV at 11 a.m. on Saturdays, but that's OK. It appears they've replaced it with Wagon Train.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on September 07, 2015, 12:16:20 AM
Judy Carne dies: Northampton's 'Sock it to me' girl dies aged 76

Read more: http://www.northampton-news-hp.co.uk/8203-Judy-Carne-dies-Northampton-s-Sock-girl-dies/story-27748796-detail/story.html#ixzz3l1yTqAsG
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 07, 2015, 09:54:02 AM
Judy Carne dies: Northampton's 'Sock it to me' girl dies aged 76

Read more: http://www.northampton-news-hp.co.uk/8203-Judy-Carne-dies-Northampton-s-Sock-girl-dies/story-27748796-detail/story.html#ixzz3l1yTqAsG


Oh, gosh, I remember Love on a Rooftop. I forgot she was once married to Burt Reynolds. I'm sorry to hear of her passing.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on September 07, 2015, 09:56:45 AM
I was too, Jeff. Another celebrity death that was not publicized very much.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 25, 2015, 08:45:08 AM
Last night there wasn't a damn thing on "mainstream" TV that interested me--and not even the movie on TCM--so it was good to discovere that Cozi-TV still (again?) has Magnum, P.I. on Thursdays.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on September 25, 2015, 10:35:31 AM
Yeah, Jeff. The 'barren' nights during the week are problem. You'd think with the new season there would be at least "something" to watch.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on September 25, 2015, 10:41:02 AM
I forgot to post about Jack Larson, Jimmy Olson, in the SUPERMAN TV series. He turned to writing plays when he realized he could not escape the character. He died on September 20, 2015. He was 87.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 25, 2015, 12:23:27 PM
I forgot to post about Jack Larson, Jimmy Olson, in the SUPERMAN TV series. He turned to writing plays when he realized he could not escape the character. He died on September 20, 2015. He was 87.

Also, he was gay. That turned up in the obituary that ran in our local paper; it mentioned his life partner, James Bridges.

Happily--I think--Larson eventually came to terms with "Jimmy Olson."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on September 25, 2015, 02:34:06 PM
Also, he was gay. That turned up in the obituary that ran in our local paper; it mentioned his life partner, James Bridges.

Happily--I think--Larson eventually came to terms with "Jimmy Olson."

Yes, I did not know about him being gay until Jimmy said something about it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on September 25, 2015, 03:00:33 PM
Jimmy Olsen?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on September 25, 2015, 04:59:08 PM
Jimmy Olsen?

Yeah, from the beyond........  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: gnash on September 27, 2015, 03:55:13 AM
Jimmy Olsen?

hahaha....

well, not at jimmy olsen's death, but i know what you mean. :D ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 07, 2016, 11:41:34 AM
Pat Harrington, Schneider on 'One Day at a Time,' dead at 86

By Todd Leopold, CNN


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Pat Harrington, the popular comedian and voice-over talent who made a lasting impact as superintendent Dwayne Schneider on the hit sitcom "One Day at a Time," has died, according to his agent. Harrington was 86.

"We have all lost a gracious human being who will always be remembered for his portrayals of the human condition," Phil Brock of the Studio Talent Group said in a statement. "Pat had the ability to bring laughter and kindness to any role. The twinkle in his Irish eyes let you know that you were in on the joke. His was an extraordinarily impactful long lasting career."

He died Wednesday, according to a Facebook post from his daughter Tresa Harrington.

"Dear Friends, it is with the most unimaginable pain and sadness, that I tell you my father, Pat Harrington, Jr. passed away at 11:09 PM this evening," she wrote, accompanied by a picture of her father as Schneider. "We were all with him today and tonight: crying, laughing and loving him. This is the single most heart wrenching and physically painful thing, I've ever had to endure."

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/01/07/entertainment/pat-harrington-obit-dead-feat/index.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on January 16, 2016, 12:52:11 PM
Aww hadn't heard about that, that's too bad, I use to love that show!


Seems like yesterday we were watching so many of these shows, where do the years go?



...Now the auspicious 40th anniversary of “Laverne & Shirley” is Jan. 27, and stars Penny Marshall and Cindy Williams spoke exclusively to Closer Weekly to share behind-the-scenes memories of a show so many of us grew up with and adored.


http://www.monstersandcritics.com/575107-2/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on January 16, 2016, 12:55:18 PM
Famous '70s TV star Dan Haggerty -- who played Grizzly Adams -- died from cancer early Friday morning ... TMZ has learned.

Haggerty died after battling cancer for the last few months. Sources close to Dan's family tell us doctors discovered the cancer after he had surgery for back pain.

Haggerty starred in the 1977 hit TV show "The Life and Times of Grizzly Adams" as the lovable mountain man whose BFF was a grizzly bear. He also guest starred on several TV shows like "CHiPs" and "Charlie's Angels."

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2016/01/15/dan-haggerty-dead-grizzly-adams/#ixzz3xRHcp7Rz
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 16, 2016, 01:30:35 PM
I remember watching that one too. 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on January 26, 2016, 01:26:21 PM
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Abe Vigoda, the sad-faced actor who emerged from a workmanlike stage career to find belated fame in the 1970s as the earnest mobster Tessio in “The Godfather” and the dyspeptic Detective Phil Fish on the hit sitcom “Barney Miller,” died on Tuesday morning in Woodland Park, N.J. He was 94, having outlived by about 34 years an erroneous report of his death that made him a cult figure.

His daughter Carol Vigoda Fuchs, told The Associated Press that Mr. Vigoda had died in his sleep at her home...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 22, 2016, 07:52:09 AM
I haven't been checking up on this thread. I heard about Abe Vigoda's death, but not about Dan Haggerty's.  :(

If I may without being tacky turn to a lighter vein, Saturday morning I was watching the episode of Wagon Train on ME-TV. Rhonda Fleming was the guest star in this particular episode--the plot was kind of "Wagon Train meets It Happened One Night," with Fleming in the Claudette Colbert part and Robert Horton in the Clark Gable role. Anyway, what struck me as funny was realizing that here in this TV episode from the late 1950s, out on the prairie on a wagon train, Fleming had perfect, dark 1950s lipstick.  ;D

And after I noticed the lipstick, I noticed there was one cut where Make-up had clearly forgotten Fleming's lipstick, and then the next time we saw her, in the same scene, just a different cut, the lipstick was back.  ;D

(Forgive me if I'm not using cut correctly. What I'm trying to say is, we see Fleming without her lipstick, and then the camera "cuts" away from her, and then when it comes back to her, she's got her lipstick back.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 22, 2016, 12:48:22 PM

That's people with color TV had something to look at!  LOL!  (j/k, of course)

That also sounds like a good idea for that series, was the episode good despite
the make-up!

I saw Rhonda Fleming in a musical once at the Pantages--The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 23, 2016, 11:50:12 AM
That also sounds like a good idea for that series, was the episode good despite
the make-up!

Yes, it was. But then I'm prejudiced. I have yet to see an episode of Wagon Train that I didn't like. And had I been around "back then," I could have happily watched Robert Horton read the telephone book! Hubba-hubba!  ;D

(I would need to double check the episode guide. The Rhonda Fleming episode is either as old as I am, or possibly a year older. I don't remember which.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 23, 2016, 05:18:11 PM
Saturday morning I was watching the episode of Wagon Train on ME-TV. Rhonda Fleming was the guest star in this particular episode--the plot was kind of "Wagon Train meets It Happened One Night," with Fleming in the Claudette Colbert part and Robert Horton in the Clark Gable role.

Come to think of it, the episode even had a sequence that was reminiscent of the famous scene from It Happened One Night where Gable and Colbert are hitchhiking, and Gable fails to get a ride with his thumb, but Colbert gets a ride immediately by showing her leg.

In the Wagon Train episode, Horton and Fleming were seeking shelter from an approaching storm from a couple of old codgers who kept firing their rifles at Horton. Fleming, who was dressed in a man's shirt and trousers, quickly changed back into a dress and charmed the old guys into giving them shelter by using her "feminine charms."  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on February 25, 2016, 07:43:17 AM
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Catchy theme song!

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 10, 2016, 07:41:35 AM
I'm putting this here under "Classic TV" because it's about an old TV movie.

There was nothing on TV last night that I wanted to watch, so I watched a DVD that a friend sent me of the 1966 TV movie Scalplock. This was the pilot for the railroad-themed Western series The Iron Horse, and both the movie and the series starred Dale Robertson. (Scalplock was a fictional town on the fictional Buffalo Pass, Scalplock & Defiance Railroad.) In addition to Robertson, the cast included Todd Armstrong (whose one big role was Jason in Jason and the Argonauts; according to IMDb, he died a suicide), in the role played by Gary Collins in the series, and Diana Hyland (who later became notorious--I guess that's the word for it--for her affair with the much, much younger John Travolta, before she died way too young of breast cancer).
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 10, 2016, 11:30:17 AM
funny I often think about John and Diana and what his life would have been like had she lived, he was so young when he was with her..

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20068072,00.html


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 10, 2016, 01:04:15 PM
I'm putting this here under "Classic TV" because it's about an old TV movie.

There was nothing on TV last night that I wanted to watch, so I watched a DVD that a friend sent me of the 1966 TV movie Scalplock. This was the pilot for the railroad-themed Western series The Iron Horse, and both the movie and the series starred Dale Robertson. (Scalplock was a fictional town on the fictional Buffalo Pass, Scalplock & Defiance Railroad.) In addition to Robertson, the cast included Todd Armstrong (whose one big role was Jason in Jason and the Argonauts; according to IMDb, he died a suicide), in the role played by Gary Collins in the series, and Diana Hyland (who later became notorious--I guess that's the word for it--for her affair with the much, much younger John Travolta, before she died way too young of breast cancer).

Hmm. It appears Todd Armstrong killed himself when he learned he had AIDS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Armstrong (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Armstrong)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 11, 2016, 12:15:55 PM
^^^
Sad to hear.
___

And, sorry, Bubba, with all the mountain of evidence to the contrary, you are naive to think anything
would be much different.  Have you ever heard of all the older woman younger gay man
relationships in Hollywood, like the guy with Martha Raye, Laurence Harvey's relationship, Vivian
Vance, for examples.

I mean, Carrie Fisher or Jaimie Lee Curtis (I mix those two up sometimes) a couple years ago,
when asked a question about John Travolta blurted out to the effect, "I don't know why John just
doesn't come out already, everyone knows he's gay." Debra Winger has talked about "all John's
boyfriends on the set" and he asked my waiter friend out for a date, which he declined.

Do you still think Liberace is not gay, too? He never said he was.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 13, 2016, 05:53:05 PM
This struck me as kind of interesting. The day after Nancy Reagan's funeral, Me-TV ran the second-season episode of Wagon Train that starred Jane Wyman.

Me-TV is running the episodes in order, so it really was just a coincidence, but I still found that interesting.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 13, 2016, 06:19:01 PM
^^^
Sad to hear.
___

And, sorry, Bubba, with all the mountain of evidence to the contrary, you are naive to think anything
would be much different.  Have you ever heard of all the older woman younger gay man
relationships in Hollywood, like the guy with Martha Raye, Laurence Harvey's relationship, Vivian
Vance, for examples.

I mean, Carrie Fisher or Jaimie Lee Curtis (I mix those two up sometimes) a couple years ago,
when asked a question about John Travolta blurted out to the effect, "I don't know why John just
doesn't come out already, everyone knows he's gay." Debra Winger has talked about "all John's
boyfriends on the set" and he asked my waiter friend out for a date, which he declined.

Do you still think Liberace is not gay, too? He never said he was.

No I think Liberance was gay! John, I have to say I am not sure, where does Scientology stand on that, does anyone know?

Although rumours have followed Will and Tom too, so who knows..



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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 14, 2016, 10:35:19 AM

Are they the worst kind of rumors?  TRUE rumors?
___

Will? Not coming to mind who Will is that you speak of?
___

I know they supported Prop 8 when it was on the ballot in California.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 16, 2016, 12:47:48 PM
Does anyone remember a cartoon that had a dog that would come up
behind another nervous high strung dog and touch his shoulder and
the dog would zoom up into the air as it was startled or frightened and
the other dog would laugh? It was like a running gag if I recall.

Both might not have been dog characters, but I've been trying to figure this out for quite awhile.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 16, 2016, 01:11:33 PM
Does anyone remember a cartoon that had a dog that would come up
behind another nervous high strung dog and touch his shoulder and
the dog would zoom up into the air as it was startled or frightened and
the other dog would laugh? It was like a running gag if I recall.

Both might not have been dog characters, but I've been trying to figure this out for quite awhile.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Cat


This is all I could think of when you said it Lyle...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 18, 2016, 10:02:03 AM

Well, that's certainly close!  Thanks, I looked up a clip online and it's very similar.

Someone also suggested the cartoon dog Muttley, who seems to have a
laugh like I remember the character did, but it wasn't that.

Who knows?  Maybe it was just a one time cartoon I saw sometime, but
it seems to me it was more than that.
_____

Something else I mentioned here once I was looking for was some TV program I saw
when a child that featured a character, a lawman or policeman, who was after someone
and the lawman is on the street below a building when the person he's looking for appears
in a window and the guy is told to halt or he'll shoot him, so the person does, but the whole
episode is the lawman with his gun trained on the guy and the guy waiting for the lawman
to become tired and falter, a waiting game.

I have very little to go on in the way of specifics.  In my mind it wasn't a western, but was it?
We didn't have a color TV so I don't even know if it was in color or not. Don't know who was in
it or anything.  Anything I could offer, like what night it was on or such would just be a supposition
and could be wrong.  But that episode has stuck in my mind for some reason and with the internet
I thought there might be some remote possibility someone else might ring the bell!
_____

And while we're on this subject, for some reason I've always remembered an Alphabet commercial
with "Lovable Truly" where they recite the alphabet using names and occupations with each letter.
The shorter commercial always stopped at "L" and the longer one continued a bit faster with the
rest. I saw it enough that I remembered it up to "L" but have wanted to know what the rest is! This
week I looked up a couple dozen Alphabet commercials online, but this wasn't one of them. Anyone
else remember it?  Up to "L" it went like this:

A is Andy Astronaut
B is Baseball Benny
C is Cowgirl Catherine
D is Doctor Denny
E is Eddie Engineer
F is Fireman Frank
G is G-Man Geraldine
H is Hunter Hank
I is Iris Indian
J is Jockey Julie
K is Kenny, he's the King
L is Lovable Truly

...and then?

M
N
O
P
Q
R
S
T
U
V
W
X
Y
Z

Inquiring minds want to know!
 


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 18, 2016, 10:19:01 AM
Something else I mentioned here once I was looking for was some TV program I saw
when a child that featured a character, a lawman or policeman, who was after someone
and the lawman is on the street below a building when the person he's looking for appears
in a window and the guy is told to halt or he'll shoot him, so the person does, but the whole
episode is the lawman with his gun trained on the guy and the guy waiting for the lawman
to become tired and falter, a waiting game.

I have very little to go on in the way of specifics.  In my mind it wasn't a western, but was it?
We didn't have a color TV so I don't even know if it was in color or not. Don't know who was in
it or anything.  Anything I could offer, like what night it was on or such would just be a supposition
and could be wrong.  But that episode has stuck in my mind for some reason and with the internet
I thought there might be some remote possibility someone else might ring the bell!

Lyle, might that have been one episode of one of those anthology series they used to have? Not necessarily Alfred Hitchcock Presents or The Twilight Zone, but that kind of show, where it was like a different play each week, as opposed to a show with continuing characters?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 18, 2016, 08:24:37 PM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Cat


This is all I could think of when you said it Lyle...

That's what I said, Bubba.  If it's a DOG as you insist, Lyle (DOGmatic person that you are) you might be thinking of Snuffles, the dog in some Quick Draw McGraw and Snagglepuss cartoons who went into orgasmic moans and zoomed up into the air and floated down slowly, in pure bliss, anytime he was given a dog biscuit. 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 19, 2016, 09:23:07 AM
Sad news. Just now, while watching this morning's Me-TV episode of Wagon Train, I learned that Robert Horton, who played the scout Flint McCullough, died about a week and a half ago, on March 9.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Horton_(actor) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Horton_(actor))
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 23, 2016, 05:09:34 PM
I'm sorry to hear he's gone. I remember Ken Howard from The White Shadow, and also as Thomas Jefferson in the film of the musical 1776. And there was also a show where he played opposite Blythe Danner (who played Martha Jefferson in 1776) as husband and wife lawyers; the title escapes me at the moment, but I believe it was based on a Spencer Tracy--Katharine Hepburn movie.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: oilgun on March 23, 2016, 05:22:15 PM
That's what I said, Bubba.  If it's a DOG as you insist, Lyle (DOGmatic person that you are) you might be thinking of Snuffles, the dog in some Quick Draw McGraw and Snagglepuss cartoons who went into orgasmic moans and zoomed up into the air and floated down slowly, in pure bliss, anytime he was given a dog biscuit.

Sounds a lot like Precious Pupp. Has he already been mentioned?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-D9uOyUE4
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 23, 2016, 05:34:06 PM
I'm sorry to hear he's gone. I remember Ken Howard from The White Shadow, and also as Thomas Jefferson in the film of the musical 1776. And there was also a show where he played opposite Blythe Danner (who played Martha Jefferson in 1776) as husband and wife lawyers; the title escapes me at the moment, but I believe it was based on a Spencer Tracy--Katharine Hepburn movie.

I was sad to hear it too, we use to love The White Shadow, 71 is still young, they are not saying how he died.

I think you are thinking of Adam's Rib!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: oilgun on March 23, 2016, 05:36:12 PM
Does anyone remember a cartoon that had a dog that would come up
behind another nervous high strung dog and touch his shoulder and
the dog would zoom up into the air as it was startled or frightened and
the other dog would laugh? It was like a running gag if I recall.

Both might not have been dog characters, but I've been trying to figure this out for quite awhile.

Sounds like it could be Precious Pupp. I used to love him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-D9uOyUE4
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 23, 2016, 06:18:19 PM
I think it IS Precious Pup!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 23, 2016, 08:13:53 PM
I was sad to hear it too, we use to love The White Shadow, 71 is still young, they are not saying how he died.

I think you are thinking of Adam's Rib!

That's it exactly! Thanks!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 24, 2016, 08:01:01 AM
That's it exactly! Thanks!

I never did see the movie though, I bet it was good.


http://www.people.com/article/george-clooney-ken-howard-death-tribute


Tributes keep pouring in, funny everyone remembers The White Shadow!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on March 24, 2016, 02:32:25 PM
It began with an episode on Feb. 20, 1973, titled “The Other Martin Loring.” In it Welby treated a middle-aged man who suffered from obesity, diabetes, alcoholism, depression and impotence. Loring’s wife confessed that she wished “the problem was another woman,” and his mother revealed that Loring’s father was distant and unavailable.

From this information, Dr. Welby deduced that Loring was struggling with “homosexual tendencies,” and tidily wrapped up another week’s show by assuring his patient that he could win his battle against such aberrant urges and someday be “normal.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/14/health/views/14welby.html?_r=0


Been watching some Marcus Welby lately and have been enjoying it, but it does seem dated in it's ideas, was looking up some things and found the article above, that is dated alright!!   :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 24, 2016, 02:38:51 PM
Been watching some Marcus Welby lately and have been enjoying it, but it does seem dated in it's ideas, was looking up some things and found the article above, that is dated alright!!   :laugh:

But, OMG, the young James Brolin. ...  :o  Thud!   ;D

As TV doctors go, Chad Everett never did much for me, but James Brolin?   :o  Thud!   :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 24, 2016, 08:20:18 PM
More sad news: Peter Brown died March 21, age 80.

I always thought he was very handsome. I don't much remember him from Lawman, but I do remember him from Laredo.

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/03/24/peter-brown-star-of-tv-western-lawman-dies-at-80/21333136/?cps=gravity_4816_-1281385901179576172 (http://www.aol.com/article/2016/03/24/peter-brown-star-of-tv-western-lawman-dies-at-80/21333136/?cps=gravity_4816_-1281385901179576172)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 24, 2016, 08:27:18 PM
More sad news: Peter Brown died March 21, age 80.

I always thought he was very handsome. I don't much remember him from Lawman, but I do remember him from Laredo.

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/03/24/peter-brown-star-of-tv-western-lawman-dies-at-80/21333136/?cps=gravity_4816_-1281385901179576172 (http://www.aol.com/article/2016/03/24/peter-brown-star-of-tv-western-lawman-dies-at-80/21333136/?cps=gravity_4816_-1281385901179576172)

Oh wow, I remember him. Losing so many stars now.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Ennis Del Mark on March 29, 2016, 07:57:10 PM
Can't believe no one has posted on Patty Duke's death!

A terrific actress and a cultural icon for THE PATTY DUKE SHOW.

A very sad day for me.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 29, 2016, 11:09:50 PM
Can't believe no one has posted on Patty Duke's death!

A terrific actress and a cultural icon for THE PATTY DUKE SHOW.

A very sad day for me.

It's was posted on two other threads here, Mark.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on April 09, 2016, 03:50:19 AM
I recently watched "Mama's Family". Vicki Lawrence as Mama Harper can always manage to make me laugh.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 09, 2016, 10:58:55 AM
I recently watched "Mama's Family". Vicki Lawrence as Mama Harper can always manage to make me laugh.

Mama was always a hoot, even on the segments of The Carol Burnett Show.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on April 13, 2016, 01:26:21 PM
Use to love that show, it was funnier than half the crap on TV right now..


(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/0d/75/90/0d7590dddb80ec565bb764cb7be69020.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on April 18, 2016, 06:27:52 PM
Doris Roberts, Star of 'Everybody Loves Raymond,' Dies at 90

The five-time Emmy winner excelled at playing motherly types. "I'm not some celebrity thinking, 'I'm greater than anybody else,' " she once said.

Doris Roberts, who delighted audiences as the meddling mother next door on Everybody Loves Raymond, has died, her representative confirmed to The Hollywood Reporter. She was 90.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/doris-roberts-star-everybody-loves-885315
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 18, 2016, 08:41:31 PM
Doris Roberts, Star of 'Everybody Loves Raymond,' Dies at 90

The five-time Emmy winner excelled at playing motherly types. "I'm not some celebrity thinking, 'I'm greater than anybody else,' " she once said.

Doris Roberts, who delighted audiences as the meddling mother next door on Everybody Loves Raymond, has died, her representative confirmed to The Hollywood Reporter. She was 90.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/doris-roberts-star-everybody-loves-885315

Sad news. First thing I remember her as is Mildred. a meddling IRS agent investigating the eponymous Remington Steele (Pierce Brosnan); she ended up working for and with Steele and Laura Holt (Stephanie Zimbalist).
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: oilgun on April 19, 2016, 04:45:40 PM
^^^My first memory of her is as Bette Midler's character's mother in The Rose. ^^^
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 03, 2016, 09:49:12 AM
Variety shows aren't re-run much because the music rights are always in question
and usually cost prohibitive. (If you recall they cut up Carol Burnett's show into 1/2
hours when it was rerun in syndication to eliminate the musical numbers etc.

I have to also admit that when I was growing up the musical acts were my least
favorite part of those shows, I was always more interested in the comedy bits.
So the variety series that were more music based weren't my top choices.

But our tastes change and now I appreciate and enjoy all of that.  One show I never
really saw much of was ABC's Hollywood Palace, which aired late Saturday nights for
seven years (1964 - 1970) and had, like Saturday Night Live, a different guest host
each week. The show was a real variety show, more like vaudeville, sort of like the
Ed Sullivan Show, and featured comics, singers, dance troupes, opera, young acts of
the day, dramatic readings of literature or poems and the like, circus type acts out
on the street etc. (Note: I just never cared for Ed Sullivan.)

It was taped/performed at the Hollywood Palace theatre on Vine Street, near Hollywood
Blvd. The theatre was built in 1927 and since then was called The Hollywood Playhouse,
The WPA Federal Theater, El Capitan Theatre, The Jerry Lewis Theatre, The Hollywood Palace,
The Palace and now it is a live club venue called The Avalon. Over it's history it hosted theatre,
some live radio series, including Fanny Brice's Baby Snooks and Lucille Ball's My Favorite Husband.
In the 40's it was home to Ken Murray's Blackouts, a long running variety type show similar to the
Ziegfeld Follies type shows.

So many of the most famous celebrities in all show-biz areas performed on the Hollywood Palace
over it's seven years that to read the names (which you can on wikipedia) is quite astounding. I'd
have surely gone to see some of their tapings had I been out here during it's run.

The series produced a total of 192 episodes during it's run and I've seen various clips of different
performers on it posted on youtube before, but I ran across this youtube channel relatively recently
where the home page announces:

This is the opening credits sequence for "Hollywood Palace", a variety series which ran on ABC from
1964-70. Subscribe to this channel if you're interested in seeing complete episodes of this hard to
find series -- I've posted every episode I've managed to find!

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4eRidJWTPHhfomeSEaxUjw/featured

No new additions have been posted on the channel for about a year, but this person's youtube channel
now boasts SEVENTY-FIVE complete episodes of the show and when there's a new addition it's added in
order of the date it was originally aired! All but one of the episodes that I've noticed have all of the original
commercials included in them as well!  The first couple seasons were in black and white and then it aired
in color.  Like any endeavor like this, the quality can vary...some have the time markers in the corner used
for production purposes, for example, but since you'd never see this program anywhere else, it is a really
fantastic resource for those with any interest in it at all.

75 episodes is well over 1/3 of all the episodes produced!  I watched one of them out of order, but then
decided I'd watch them in air date order. I'm not in any hurry to whiz through all 75, so I will do so at my
leisure, maybe a couple each weekend.

There is no typical episode, because the guest host and stars were so varied. It depends on who someone is
interested in.  I found myself quite interested in the episode Elizabeth Montgomery hosted as I'd never seen
her in a variety format before.  Paul Lynde was one of the guests. Bing Crosby was the most frequent host,
I believe he hosted about 31 of the programs, and usually did a Christmas episode. ABC always wanted to
have some of the 60's current musical acts among the guests, so there's a lot of humor in watching shots
of the audience, mostly older ladies with an evening off, staring at these acts with a "wtf is this" we're
watching look on their faces. Sometimes you'll see that with the host, like when Dean Martin does the
same after watching the Rolling Stones perform a number.  It's also disconcerting to watch so many
guests, like Dean, light up a cigarette and smoke, even while singing a song.

Anyway, just thought I'd point anyone interested in this in the right direction.  For me, it's a fascinating
discovery, especially since variety shows are the least rerun format, for many reasons, on the numerous
retro channels currently airing vintage programming.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 03, 2016, 10:58:35 AM
But our tastes change and now I appreciate and enjoy all of that.  One show I never
really saw much of was ABC's Hollywood Palace, which aired late Saturday nights for
seven years (1964 - 1970) and had, like Saturday Night Live, a different guest host
each week. The show was a real variety show, more like vaudeville, sort of like the
Ed Sullivan Show, and featured comics, singers, dance troupes, opera, young acts of
the day, dramatic readings of literature or poems and the like, circus type acts out
on the street etc. (Note: I just never cared for Ed Sullivan.)

I remember that show, or maybe I should say that I remember that it existed, because I have no specific memory of any episode. Maybe it was past my bedtime (I turned 12 the year it ended). Maybe what I remember is commercials for it, or something.

I ought to look up the dates for other shows that I remember, like Glenn Campbell, Andy Williams, Barbara Mandrell and her sisters, the King Sisters, and Flip Wilson (always liked him, thought he was good, and funny, and, being a kid, it never crossed my mind that there might have been something unusual in having a black man host a show).

(I was not a questioning child. It didn't strike me as possibly unusual for Diahann Carroll to star in a show, either. I just thought she was very pretty, and I liked the show.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 03, 2016, 03:13:30 PM
I ought to look up the dates for other shows that I remember, like Glenn Campbell, Andy Williams, Barbara Mandrell and her sisters, the King Sisters, and Flip Wilson (always liked him, thought he was good, and funny, and, being a kid, it never crossed my mind that there might have been something unusual in having a black man host a show). (I was not a questioning child. It didn't strike me as possibly unusual for Diahann Carroll to star in a show, either. I just thought she was very pretty, and I liked the show.)


Glenn Campbell
The Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour / 89 episodes
Aired from January 29, 1969 - March 21, 1972

Andy Williams
The Andy Williams Show / 115 episodes
Aired from September 27, 1962 - March 19, 1967
--also--
The Andy Williams Show / 50 episodes
Aired from September 20, 1969 - March 27, 1971

Barbara Mandrell and her sisters
Barbara Mandrell and the Mandrell Sisters / 35 episodes
Aired from November 30, 1980 - February 27, 1982

The King Sisters
Did you mean The King Family?  The King Sisters were a singing group
popular in the 1940's on radio and a few film appearances. In the 50's
they appeared a few times on television including several appearances
on the 1957 Ray Anthony Show.

The King Family Show
Season 1: 23 one-hour episodes / Aired January 23, 1965 - July 3, 1965
Season 2: 17 half-hour episodes / Aired September 18, 1965 - January 8, 1966
Season 3: 13 half-hour episodes / Aired March 12, 1969 - June 11, 1969
They also did 17 specials from 1967 - 1974.

As a blog commenter identified as stdriggs wrote:

After an appearance on The Hollywood Palace drew a reported 53,000 letters, ABC decided to give the Kings their own hour-long special
followed by their own variety series after the special's great ratings. The King Family had several incarnations up through the early 70's.
The show was renewed for the 1965-66 season, and made a brief comeback as a regular series in the Spring of 1969. They also did several
guest appearances on Ed Sullivan and Hollywood Palace. In 1967, they began producing a series of holiday specials, beginning with Thanksgiving
and Christmas. By 1971, they ended up with a special for every month of the year (there was a joke about "Groundhog Day with the King Family"),
many of which were repeatedly aired in syndication for years after. The last special was a new Christmas show in 1974. How do I know all this? I was
one of the kids in the show.


Flip Wilson
The Flip Wilson Show / 96 episodes
Aired September 17, 1970 - February 28, 1974

Diahann Carroll
Julia / 86 episodes
Aired September 17, 1968 - March 23, 1971

As a kid, I didn't think this show was especially good. It felt like they were kind of afraid of it so
it skirted around the stuff they wanted to talk about.  Like Tea & Sympathy. What kids of my
age seem to remember, for some reason, was the neighbor boy's odd name: Earl J. Waggedorn,
called by that precise full name each and every time.

I first knew Flip Wilson from some scattered appearances, but especially on Laugh-In where he
did several first season episodes and he was so great. I was disappointed in his own variety show,
which I always thought they should've called it "The Flip Side", although someone might've thought
that signified second best or something, because I didn't like the way it was filmed. Every sketch they
did was on some kind of runway or stage that jutted out into the audience and so you'd see Geraldine
sitting on a couch, say, and if you looked either side you'd see faces in the audience. I just thought it
quite awkward and very distracting. I'm guessing they wanted the immediacy of an audience in front
of him. I don't know. Maybe they wanted to show a lot of white people watching him so some audiences
wouldn't stray from the channel, as I said, I don't know why they decided to do that, but I didn't like it
at all.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 03, 2016, 03:40:44 PM
WOW I remember a lot, but I have no memory of this show at all, just went and was looking it up:


Popular, long-running Saturday night variety show of the mid-to-late 1960's, originating from the Hollywood Palace Theater (formerly the El Capitan) on Hollywood Boulevard. There was a revolving guest host, usually a singer or comedian, each week. Bing Crosby was the most frequent guest host (including, of course, the Christmas Week show), but other frequent guest hosts included Sammy Davis, Jr., Jimmy Durante, Don Adams, Fred Astaire, and Judy Garland. The Rolling Stones made their first U.S. TV appearence on the show in 1964. The waning popularity of weekly variety shows contributed to "Hollywood Palace" being cancelled in early 1970, but it's still well-remembered by its many fans.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057755/



Some interesting facts in the link - Put On a Happy Face - now I want to watch some episodes!!



I don't know, I say bring back the Variety shows, it would be better than half the crap (reality crap) they have on TV right now.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 03, 2016, 03:42:10 PM
https://www.pinterest.com/annahendershot6/the-hollywood-palace/



(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/3d/6a/cf/3d6acf299d8c83bcc57f96ad473e10f1.jpg)



February 11, 1967 — Host Sammy Davis Jr. with Liberace on The Hollywood Palace (1965-70, ABC)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 03, 2016, 03:44:16 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 03, 2016, 03:45:34 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/43/1b/5a/431b5a27feef539275991965c9478f22.jpg)

Jimmy Durante and Mrs. Miller (The Hollywood Palace, 1966)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 03, 2016, 03:48:02 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/2f/a4/07/2fa4070dc7086f424f06dcc7c65a745e.jpg)


Raquel Welch - 1964 at the Hollywood Palace
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 03, 2016, 03:50:10 PM
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October 9, 1965. Hosting 'Hollywood Palace.'
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 03, 2016, 05:21:33 PM
Thanks for the research, Lyle. You saved me the time!

The King Sisters
Did you mean The King Family?  The King Sisters were a singing group
popular in the 1940's on radio and a few film appearances. In the 50's
they appeared a few times on television including several appearances
on the 1957 Ray Anthony Show.

The King Family Show
Season 1: 23 one-hour episodes / Aired January 23, 1965 - July 3, 1965
Season 2: 17 half-hour episodes / Aired September 18, 1965 - January 8, 1966
Season 3: 13 half-hour episodes / Aired March 12, 1969 - June 11, 1969
They also did 17 specials from 1967 - 1974.

Yes, that's it. Weren't the King Sisters a part of that King Family? I seem to remember a couple of sisters, including one named Yvonne.

Quote
Earl J. Waggedorn

Hey, who can forget Earl J. Waggedorn?  :D

Quote
I first knew Flip Wilson from some scattered appearances, but especially on Laugh-In where he
did several first season episodes and he was so great. I was disappointed in his own variety show,
which I always thought they should've called it "The Flip Side", although someone might've thought
that signified second best or something, because I didn't like the way it was filmed. Every sketch they
did was on some kind of runway or stage that jutted out into the audience and so you'd see Geraldine
sitting on a couch, say, and if you looked either side you'd see faces in the audience. I just thought it
quite awkward and very distracting. I'm guessing they wanted the immediacy of an audience in front
of him. I don't know. Maybe they wanted to show a lot of white people watching him so some audiences
wouldn't stray from the channel, as I said, I don't know why they decided to do that, but I didn't like it
at all.

Didn't bother me at all. I remember a guest appearance Carol Channing made on Flip Wilson's show. I guess it was a Geraldine sketch where Flip said he served Carol Channing chitterlings without cleaning them.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 03, 2016, 05:22:45 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/43/1b/5a/431b5a27feef539275991965c9478f22.jpg)

Jimmy Durante and Mrs. Miller (The Hollywood Palace, 1966)

I remember Mrs. Miller!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 04, 2016, 05:29:23 PM
I had to go look her up!

Elva Ruby Miller (née Connes; October 5, 1907 – July 5, 1997), who recorded under the name "Mrs. Miller," was an American singer who gained some fame in the 1960s for her series of shrill and off-key renditions of popular songs such as "Moon River", "Monday, Monday", "A Lover's Concerto", and "Downtown". Singing in an untrained, Mermanesque, vibrato-laden style, according to Irving Wallace, David Wallechinsky and Amy Wallace in The Book of Lists 2, Miller's voice was compared to the sound of "roaches scurrying across a trash can lid."[1]


 :o
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 04, 2016, 05:33:06 PM
Oh my.  I hope she was in on the joke.  I would hate to think that she thought she was quite the singer, and it turned out that others were laughing at her renditions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Y4HPl4MEU
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 04, 2016, 05:41:11 PM
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 :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 04, 2016, 05:53:49 PM
Oh my.  I hope she was in on the joke.  I would hate to think that she thought she was quite the singer, and it turned out that others were laughing at her renditions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4Y4HPl4MEU

From what I heard back then, she believed the adulation was real, and was disappointed when she found out that she was the butt of jokes.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 04, 2016, 05:57:39 PM
Well I just listened to what Chuck posted and it was pretty bad, poor woman, but now I do have youtube on ............MJ!!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 05, 2016, 10:30:49 AM

Is the Mrs. Miller in question the same woman that used to be pointed out in studio audiences
all the time because she would spend lots of time at TV tapings and became like a famous
audience guest.  She was called Mrs. Miller, too.  (?)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 05, 2016, 02:08:59 PM
Is the Mrs. Miller in question the same woman that used to be pointed out in studio audiences
all the time because she would spend lots of time at TV tapings and became like a famous
audience guest.  She was called Mrs. Miller, too.  (?)

I seem to remember the woman in the audience. Nice elderly Jewish grandmother type, with glasses and a handbag. I seem to remember her being a "regular" in the audience for The Merv Griffin Show, and she was definitely a different woman from the one in the picture with Jimmy Durante.

But now I'm a little confused, too. Perhaps my memory has conflated two other women. I remember the lady in the picture with Jimmy Durante, but my memory is that she whistled, not sang. Maybe she did both?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 05, 2016, 02:17:42 PM
Whistling was part of her performance of her songs.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 05, 2016, 02:54:18 PM
Whistling was part of her performance of her songs.

Thanks, Fritz. Then the woman with Jimmy Durante is the one I remember.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 05, 2016, 03:04:51 PM
From what I heard back then, she believed the adulation was real, and was disappointed when she found out that she was the butt of jokes.

According to Wikipedia, that may not be  so.

Miller's success, like that of Florence Foster Jenkins and Wing, was due to the perceived amateurishness of her singing. Capitol Records seemed eager to emphasize it—in a 1967 interview with Life magazine, Miller herself claimed that during recording sessions she was deliberately conducted a half beat ahead or behind time, and claimed the worst of several different recordings of a song would be chosen for the finished album.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 05, 2016, 05:22:30 PM
From what I heard back then, she believed the adulation was real, and was disappointed when she found out that she was the butt of jokes.

According to Wikipedia, that may not be  so.

Miller's success, like that of Florence Foster Jenkins and Wing, was due to the perceived amateurishness of her singing. Capitol Records seemed eager to emphasize it—in a 1967 interview with Life magazine, Miller herself claimed that during recording sessions she was deliberately conducted a half beat ahead or behind time, and claimed the worst of several different recordings of a song would be chosen for the finished album.

I always thought Mrs. Miller was really a comedy act, but then I was just a little kid at the time. It's a little difficult to believe she was so lacking in self-awareness that she actually thought people liked her singing as singing, especially with the whistling thrown in.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 05, 2016, 07:06:48 PM
She may well have been a latter-day Margaret Dumont!  ;D

I've also heard conflicting stories about her whether or not she was in on the jokes with the Marx Brothers.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 05, 2016, 08:01:33 PM
She may well have been a latter-day Margaret Dumont!  ;D

 :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 07, 2016, 11:24:35 AM
I thought the episode of Wagon Train on Me-TV this morning was particularly fine. Anne Baxter played a saloon singer-dancer on the wagon train. The "good women" wanted Major Adams to make Baxter leave the train, but then she was the only one who would take in an orphaned Indian baby that Flint McCullough found. (Baxter had a wonderful fight scene with the character actress Kathleen Freeman.  :D ) Then the baby came down with smallpox. It was rather a different role from what I'm used to seeing Anne Baxter play.

Edit to add:

OK, this is too funny. Talk about Anne Baxter roles! I just noticed that tonight TCM is showing All About Eve!  :D What a coincidence!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 07, 2016, 01:29:11 PM

Maybe Me-TV will play her Batman appearances as "Zelda the Great," too!
 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 07, 2016, 01:52:08 PM
She will always be Nefertari to me!


Watched Rifleman today, it's always good!  :D


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 07, 2016, 03:17:02 PM
Maybe Me-TV will play her Batman appearances as "Zelda the Great," too!

I didn't know--or didn't remember--that she appeared in Batman.

I thought Baxter was miscast in A Ticket to Tomahawk. She did her best, but the role in that film didn't suit her, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 07, 2016, 03:20:53 PM
Watched Rifleman today, it's always good!  :D


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The Rifleman was a good show.

Some time ago I saw a few episodes with Patricia Blair. Got me to thinking that her role in The Rifleman may have given somebody the idea to cast her as Rebecca Boone in Daniel Boone. The character of the characters was similar.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 07, 2016, 06:42:56 PM
Maybe Me-TV will play her Batman appearances as "Zelda the Great," too!


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 07, 2016, 06:49:34 PM

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OMG that hat, she looks like Endora there!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 07, 2016, 06:50:49 PM
The Rifleman was a good show.

Some time ago I saw a few episodes with Patricia Blair. Got me to thinking that her role in The Rifleman may have given somebody the idea to cast her as Rebecca Boone in Daniel Boone. The character of the characters was similar.

Did he ever marry on the show??
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2016, 08:26:32 AM
OMG that hat, she looks like Endora there!  :laugh:

She does!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 08, 2016, 12:22:06 PM

Actually, Anne Baxter is the only performer on Batman who played two
different villains.  The one you posted a photo of is her as Olga, Queen of
the Cossacks, when she teamed up with Egghead, played by Vincent Price.
Did not care for that storyline; I preferred her as Zelda the Great, in the
first season episodes.

(http://i0.wp.com/www.tor.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Batman-Zelda08.jpg?type=vertical)

By the way, here's a great link:

A Visual Guide to All 37 Villains in the 'Batman' TV Series

http://mentalfloss.com/article/60213/visual-guide-all-37-villains-batman-tv-series

A gorgeous photo of each villain portrayed on the series.
(Along with pertinent information.)

Bonus:  Guess which villains were played by gay men? (There's several.)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 10, 2016, 12:59:47 PM
Well Liberance for sure!  I read that Maurice Evans was gay (also Sam's Dad in Bewitched)...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on May 10, 2016, 01:20:55 PM
No I think Liberance was gay! John, I have to say I am not sure, where does Scientology stand on that, does anyone know?

Although rumours have followed Will and Tom too, so who knows..



http://www.classic-tv.com/


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I think that Church of Scientology views homosexuality as something that people should be "cured" from.  From what I have heard,  Lesbian, gay and bisexual persons who are in romantic and sexual relationships with another consenting adult of the same gender are not allowed to become members of the Church, unless they decide to live a life without ever dating or having sex with someone of the same gender, or unless they decide to enter a mixed-orientation marriage with a heterosexual person of the opposite gender.  Transgender people who undergo a sex-change operation are also not allowed to become members of the Church of Scientology either, if they want to become Scientologists, they have to repress their gender identity and behave as the gender that they were physically born as.  LGBT people have to repress to their sexual orientation or gender identity until death if the want to be members of the Church of Scientology.  Most religious groups hold the same prejudiced attitudes  towards LGBT people and have these same rules that they expect LGBT members to live by if they want to continue being a member of the group.


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 11, 2016, 11:18:39 AM
Well Liberace for sure!  I read that Maurice Evans was gay (also Sam's Dad in Bewitched)...

That's two -- keep going -- you're not even half done!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 11, 2016, 11:47:58 AM
Well Liberance for sure!  I read that Maurice Evans was gay (also Sam's Dad in Bewitched)...

That's two -- keep going -- you're not even half done!

Haven't we listed the gay people associated with Bewitched! before? Endora, Uncle Arthur, Darren #2. ...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 11, 2016, 12:49:21 PM
Yes, but I was talking about:

Bonus:  Guess which [BATMAN TV series] villains were played by gay men? (There's several.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 11, 2016, 03:45:47 PM
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Cesar Romero!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 11, 2016, 03:57:39 PM
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Talented actor and former SAG president William Schallert has passed way at the age of 93.

Schallert's most memorable role as an actor came when he played the beloved TV dad Martin Lane on The Patty Duke Show from 1963 to 1966. The performance stuck with audiences as Schallert earned a spot on TV Guide's list of Greatest TV Dads of All Time in 2004.

As for the ComicBook.com community, many will recognize Schallert from his appearances on the original Star Trek TV series and more recently recently on True Blood. His Star Trek appearance is quite a valuable memory for fans of the "The Trouble With Tribbles" episode. He played Nilz Baris, an agricultural undersecretary who is infuriated when he discovers that the furry, constantly reproducing aliens have devoured all the grain.

Schallert's other well-known roles In the Heat of the Night, Santa Barbara, and Innerspace. He was born on July 6, 1922 in Los Angeles, California.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 19, 2016, 08:59:05 AM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 19, 2016, 09:06:19 AM
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Classic 1960s Sitcoms — vintage comic books...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 19, 2016, 10:40:29 AM
^^^^^^

Love that!

Wonder why Car 54 Where are You?, and The Beverly Hillbillies are more expensive?    :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 19, 2016, 12:27:14 PM

And, speaking of Lucy, CBS is airing a special with two new colorized episodes this Friday.
It will air like one long story, because it's the two episodes where Lucy and Viv go to Grauman's
and steal John Wayne's footprints and then in the second episode she tries to get him to replace
them.

(https://www.cbspressexpress.com/images/releases/docimages/4978/314070-363357/26180ee071ad91a3fe60b3fcc766feb5.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 19, 2016, 07:43:52 PM
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Classic 1960s Sitcoms — vintage comic books...

How neat!

Now I'll confess I have a small collection of comic books based on Daniel Boone.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 20, 2016, 05:04:27 PM

No one's tried to figure out the rest of the gay (actors) Batman villains!



By the way, here's a great link:

A Visual Guide to All 37 Villains in the 'Batman' TV Series

http://mentalfloss.com/article/60213/visual-guide-all-37-villains-batman-tv-series

A gorgeous photo of each villain portrayed on the series.
(Along with pertinent information.)

Bonus:  Guess which villains were played by gay men? (There's several.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 20, 2016, 05:35:53 PM

WHICH BATMAN VILLAIN ARE YOU?

Take this Quiz:

http://www.playbuzz.com/robertb16/which-villain-from-the-1960s-batman-tv-series-are-you

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: morrobay on May 20, 2016, 05:52:25 PM
thanks a lot Lyle!  I'm the Riddler.  I'll also die when I'm 57 (too late), I was a queen in my past life, and now I'm finding out what time period I should have lived in...way to kill some time  :D

ETA: You belong in Medieval Ireland (400–1400 AD). You value tradition, family, and honor. You are strong and resilient, and you believe in doing what's right. There is a softness inside of you, but you reveal that only to those closest to you. Hard work and equality are essential to you, and you're not afraid to roll up your sleeves to get the job done.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 20, 2016, 05:59:30 PM
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Marsha Queen of Diamonds!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 20, 2016, 07:41:03 PM
Alan Young, Star of Mister Ed, Dies at 96

Alan Young, a veteran actor who played Wilbur Post on the hit sitcom Mister Ed, died Thursday at the Motion Picture and Television Home in Woodland Hills, Calif. He was 96.

Young died peacefully in his sleep of natural causes, surrounded by his adult children, according to the Motion Picture & Television Fund, which announced his passing.


http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20981907_21008045,00.html

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 21, 2016, 09:27:00 AM
Alan Young, Star of Mister Ed, Dies at 96

Ninety-six is a good age. R.I.P. I must admit, it's been so long since I heard his name, I hadn't known he was still living.

Meanwhile, Troy Donahue (!) has a guest supporting role in today's episode of Wagon Train ("The Hunter Malloy Story," orig. broadcast Jan. 21. 1959). I say "supporting" because the "main" guest star is Lloyd Nolan. Pretty Luana Patten also has a role.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 21, 2016, 11:26:44 AM

I'm the SIREN!

LOL!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 21, 2016, 12:34:22 PM
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The Logo network has just added reruns of this classic show to their line-up, and I'm  kinda mystified as to why.   From what I've seen, the shows they have on Logo tend to fall into 1 of 3 categories:

1.  A recurring or lead character is gay.
2.  One or more of the actors on the show is gay.
3.  The show appeals to a "gay audience" or  "gay sensibility"  (Golden Girls, Designing Women)

I don't remember this show really having a gay following when  it aired, but I do remember Jack Tripper lived with  Chrissy and Janet by lying and saying he was gay.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 21, 2016, 04:07:25 PM
That's probably why.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 21, 2016, 05:17:58 PM
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The Logo network has just added reruns of this classic show to their line-up, and I'm  kinda mystified as to why.   From what I've seen, the shows they have on Logo tend to fall into 1 of 3 categories:

1.  A recurring or lead character is gay.
2.  One or more of the actors on the show is gay.
3.  The show appeals to a "gay audience" or  "gay sensibility"  (Golden Girls, Designing Women)

I don't remember this show really having a gay following when  it aired, but I do remember Jack Tripper lived with  Chrissy and Janet by lying and saying he was gay.


It is on reruns on a station I get and I watch it once in a while, I find it really dated.  But watch just to see John.

 Mr. Roper was against men and women living together (living in sin)  if he was that old fashion, he would probably be against renting to a gay person.

Also Jack played the "stereotypical" gay, which is also dated and weird.  But then Crissy the dumb blonde act was no better.


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 21, 2016, 05:35:06 PM
Anybody else watch the two colorized episodes of I Love Lucy? They were the two "Hollywood" episodes where Lucy tries to steal John Wayne's footprints from in front of Grauman's Chinese Theater, and then tries to replace them.

Far from my favorite episodes, but I watched anyway, and I have to say I'm impressed by the colorizing process. I think if you didn't know they were originally in black-and-white, you'd never know it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 21, 2016, 05:43:45 PM
I just saw snippets of it, the colorization process has come a long way, I was surprised at how good it was.

But there remain many films that simply should not be colorized.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 21, 2016, 08:39:11 PM
I just saw snippets of it, the colorization process has come a long way, I was surprised at how good it was.

But there remain many films that simply should not be colorized.

I agree completely.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 21, 2016, 09:02:52 PM
I remember they colorized the original Night of The Living Dead.....it was awful.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 21, 2016, 10:03:46 PM
I don't remember this show really having a gay following when  it aired, but I do remember Jack Tripper lived with  Chrissy and Janet by lying and saying he was gay.

When "Three's Company" came out in 1977 I loved it.  It made me laugh a lot.
It was a different time!  I've seen episodes recently here and there on Antenna-TV,
one of the retro channels, and it doesn't hold up much at all, in my opinion.  It can
still make you laugh, largely because of John Ritter who went the extra mile, especially
physically, for added humor.

But it is terribly dated.  When it came out, and there basically was only three network
channels to choose from, mass audiences rarely heard any kind of sexual humor at all,
so to do it on a national tv show was, I won't say revolutionary, but you just didn't see it.

The fact that Jack was gay to his landlord (not the wife, though) was the closest to having any type of
gay character on television at all and many gay people liked the fact that anything "gay" was even brought
up.  (On the other side, there were those people who thought it didn't do us any good at all.) It mostly got
brought up with Stanley, the landlord, making very standard homophobic jokes and reactions to this, which
made you wonder why he allowed Jack to stay there in the first place, but Jack Ritter was great in that, and
I wonder if it was ever talked about in the course of doing this program, but Jack always reacted with eye
rolling when Roper would do it, as though it was disapproval and even try to make him uncomfortable at
times, and I'm sure gay people related to it as part of their lives at the time.  I don't recall the Jack Tripper
character ever having negative scenarios/reactions about being thought of as gay.

I also don't recall any actual gay characters on the show in any episodes.  I mean, they could've had one where
Roper tries to set him up on a date, which would seem the most logical thing to do, but it wasn't.

Yes, most of the jokes were sexually oriented and, as I said, they were pretty amusing in the late 70's because
this stuff was never seen like that on TV before. Now, almost 40 years later, with so much media around, this
kind of humor is very dated, seems almost quaint, but even more childish now.

Plus, those plots were very basic.  Money to pay rent. Needing a job. Any number of misunderstandings. And it
doesn't seem like the three were with their own age group much, the others always seemed so much older!
The sequel series, Three's a Crowd, is unwatchable.

They actually did THREE pilots of the series, always with John Ritter, but the females were different.
I believe they're on the dvd's of the show as extras.

One joke on the whole series I seem to remember off and on that really made me laugh was on their
(probably) most controversial episode because it dealt with them finding marijuana growing in the Roper's
garden. I don't remember why, but Jack and Chrissy go to the Santa Monica Police Department and for
some reason as the plot progresses the policeman wants Jack to have a urine test, so as the cop is sitting
at the desk, he holds up a plastic cup toward Jack who is about ten feet away and says, "Here fill this up."
Jack replies, "From here?"   :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 21, 2016, 10:07:42 PM
And, speaking of Lucy, CBS is airing a special with two new colorized episodes this Friday.
It will air like one long story, because it's the two episodes where Lucy and Viv go to Grauman's
and steal John Wayne's footprints and then in the second episode she tries to get him to replace
them.

(https://www.cbspressexpress.com/images/releases/docimages/4978/314070-363357/26180ee071ad91a3fe60b3fcc766feb5.jpg)

Yes, I watched, I enjoy seeing them.  Somehow I never even knew there was one on last December
they colorized.  They showed the Christmas episode, and this time they colorized the flashback sequences,
and they did the Vitameatavegemin episode.  I wish they'd run them again.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 21, 2016, 10:41:37 PM
I just saw snippets of it, the colorization process has come a long way, I was surprised at how good it was.
But there remain many films that simply should not be colorized.

I agree completely.

I have to say I don't mind. I remember when they started colorization in the 80's and many people jumped on
board and praised it, even the President, and then all of a sudden there was this brouhaha about it that seems
to have made it a crime to even say one doesn't mind if they do it.

I also find a lot of people's reasoning about it disingenuous.  The purists say things shouldn't be colorized
because it isn't how the original makers intended it to be seen.  Well, they didn't intend for movies in color
to be seen on small black & white television sets and edited and have commercial interruptions, either.
They were intended to be seen projected by film and not digitalized, as well.  And none of these people have
been bothered by the new technology enhancing the sound quality in ways never imagined by the original
filmmakers.

I guess it's never bothered me so much because I grew up for years and years watching color movies and
color tv series on black and white television sets. Then when I got a color tv I was watching all these things
that I knew in b&w now in color. It doesn't seem like a big deal.

Back in the early days of film there were those that would hand-color entire b&w films. No one fussed
about it.  If I ever watch a film or TV show for the first time, I do always choose to watch it in its original
form.  If it's something I watched over the years many many times, like I Love Lucy programs, then I just
find watching them in color now a different way to experience them. I know people like to attach some kind
of worth to the form the films were made in, but it's just my experience that if I don't like or care for a film,
watching it in b&w or color isn't going to change that. For example, I may be one of the few people who doesn't
care for a film that everyone seems to love, Casablanca.  Because it's so popular I have revisited it several times
because I keep wondering if I would change my mind.  So, I've seen it on TV with commercials and on video without
commercials. I've seen it projected in a movie theater and, yes, I've seen it in color. And I still find it meh!

(By the way, when they were colorizing Casablanca they discovered a flub in the film. There's a scene where
Ilsa describes an earlier scene in the film to someone where she arrives at a place and what she was wearing
and what color it is etc. When they went back to look at the scene she wasn't wearing what she described at all!
Heh!)

It's the same with a film I like.  Some films I've seen a lot I have actually turned the color off and watched them
in b&w.  It's just a different way to watch something. I've done that with E.T., Bonnie & Clyde and Brokeback Mountain,
as examples.

And for all this colorization controversy, much of the CGI they do today is recorded in b&w and then they go back and
insert the colors afterwards.

So, I do argue with people who are so adamant about it.  I think it occurs because people like their favorite films
so much that they don't think they should be touched or altered at all because it's so personal to them.

But then these same people will "listen" to audio books (was that ever intended by authors) or read the
Reader's Digest condensed versions!

Kenneth Turan wrote a piece when the colorization of movies argument was at a frenzy, calling out hypocrisy on
those doing it and I wish it was online so I could recommend people to read it.

Whatever people think of it, people do NOT have to watch these things if they don't want to.  I always thought
if I did watch something colorized if I watched it again I'd go back to the original, but you know what?  I watch
Miracle on 34th Street nearly every year and now I find myself gravitating to the colorized version quite often.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 22, 2016, 05:11:13 AM
Quite true, Lyle, as long as one has the choice of seeing the original BW as well as the colorized. I'm reminded though of the satellite music channels on Sirius XM, which has no competition any more. They've cut back more and more of the non-rock channels, despite protests. They used to have a number of classical music channels, but have cut back to only two, Symphony Hall and Met Opera, including occasional movie soundtracks on the former. I miss the dedicated channel to the soundtracks. They were originally supposed to cater to niche audiences on some of these channels, but without the competition of two companies, they feel no need to. Earl theorizes that the company heads are rock (using the word generically) missionaries who want to convert their audience!

I'd hate to see the originals suppressed by the marketplace and unavailable on the theory that there's no demand for them.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 22, 2016, 11:44:13 AM
I'd hate to see the originals suppressed by the marketplace and unavailable on the theory that there's no demand for them.

I do agree with this, Fritz, I would not want that ever to happen.  Just for myself, if I'd never seen it
(a film) before, I have to watch it in it's original b&w release first. So I wouldn't watch it at all if I couldn't
see it that way.  Though on TV you can turn off the color, but even purists keep saying that this isn't a
natural b&w that you'd usually get.  Sometimes the technical things get too much into minutiae!

Other oddities about b&w and color:

Peter Bogdanovich, who had success with the b&w films The Last Picture Show and Paper Moon, wanted his film
Nickelodeon to also be in b&w.  It was about silent films, so it had a reason to be. I don't recall the reasoning, but
I guess the studio was adamant that it be in color and he didn't get his way this time.  The film was not a success.
I saw it on TV once and didn't like it, either.

A few years ago they had a Peter Bogdanovich mini-retrospective of his films at the American Cinematheque in Hollywood
at the Egyptian Theater.  The first night was The Last Picture Show which I went to as I'd never seen it in a theater before
and Peter and also Cybil Shepherd were there to talk about the film afterwards. (I subsequently got to see another screening
of that film at the Academy's theatre, a 40th Anniversary screening.)

In any case, Peter B. had such a good time that he came
to all of the screenings that week and talked about his films. I also went to see What's Up, Doc? and Paper Moon. All three of those
films I've just mentioned are on my top list of favorite films ever. They also had a screening of Nickolodeon and, Peter B. got his wish,
because it was the first ever showing of the film, and maybe only!, in the way he had originally intended it.  It was in b&w.  THe film
was not any better, let's just say.
_____

While tooling around the internet last week I discovered that someone online has a copy of NEBRASKA in color.  Remember that film?
It was only out a couple years ago.  Wonderful film. There's no explanation of how they have it in color, but I'm guessing that they filmed
it in color and then transferred it into b&w. I've heard that is a way to get a certain look for a film than you'd otherwise get if it was just
filmed in b&w.  Strange huh?
_____

The second season of THE LUCY SHOW, that is on DVD, was filmed in color, but aired by CBS in b&w. Which version would purists choose
to watch? The way it was originally shown to everyone, or the way it was actually filmed?
_____

The film DRUMS ALONG THE MOHAWK, 1939, with Henry Fonda and Claudette Colbert, was filmed in color. I recently saw a blu-ray
transfer of it with a friend and the color in that has always had a different quality look to it than many other films, but notin a bad way
in my opinion.  When the film came out in the 80's on VhS, we had customers that would bring it back and refuse to pay for it because
they thought it was colorized and they would not believe that it wasn't when they were told it was filmed in color.
_____

A friend of mine who is a Gone with the Wind superfan, showed me a review of the film once, that was written in 1939, from a woman
who wrote that watching a color film for so long would be detrimental to your eyesight. That such a thing shouldn't be considered. You'd
start having eyesight problems.  True.
_____

As far as watching a film the way the director originally intended:  What if you have a director that keeps tinkering with his films?  What
about Star Wars? The film as presented to audiences now is nothing like the experience of seeing it back in 1977--the quirky little film with
it's endearing imperfections and qualities.  It now looks like a video game.

What about Spielberg and Close Encounters? He's tinkered around with that film a plenty.  There's even two versions of both 1941 and E.T.
now.  The original E.T. and the 20th Anniversary E.T. with altered (cleaned up or enhanced) visual effects and two extra minutes. (And
walkie-talkies instead of guns pointed a the children.)
_____

I guess all I'm suggesting is, that films aren't necessarily as set in stone as we like to think they are.  They're often in different stages of
presentation, whether it's in 70mm or 35mm versions, the sound system of the theatre it's being shown in, the age of the print--we used
to see revival films with bad scratches and edits or faded color (I saw GWTW once in mostly a shade of red and pink). Silent films were often
seen with an entire live orchestra playing the score--or one piano player.

In the South, scenes with black people (Lena Horne musical numbers, for example) were often edited out of a film. My GWTW friend has
shown me some different versions of GWTW that have various differences in the sound effects.  Rustling dresses in one and absent in
another, for example.  We shouldn't even get into film dubbing!  In the 1950's they took a negative and made the film (GWTW) into
widescreen.  They also had Metrocolor prints of the film which in my opinion, should never be
seen. They colorized it into a different look, in other words!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 22, 2016, 11:44:40 AM



THE COLORIZED VERSION:

    :D


I'd hate to see the originals suppressed by the marketplace and unavailable on the theory that there's no demand for them.

I do agree with this, Fritz, I would not want that ever to happen.  Just for myself, if I'd never seen it
(a film) before, I have to watch it in it's original b&w release first. So I wouldn't watch it at all if I couldn't
see it that way.  Though on TV you can turn off the color, but even purists keep saying that this isn't a
natural b&w that you'd usually get.  Sometimes the technical things get too much into minutiae!

Other oddities about b&w and color:

Peter Bogdanovich, who had success with the b&w films The Last Picture Show and Paper Moon, wanted his film
Nickelodeon to also be in b&w.  It was about silent films, so it had a reason to be. I don't recall the reasoning, but
I guess the studio was adamant that it be in color and he didn't get his way this time.  The film was not a success.
I saw it on TV once and didn't like it, either.

A few years ago they had a Peter Bogdanovich mini-retrospective of his films at the American Cinematheque in Hollywood
at the Egyptian Theater.  The first night was The Last Picture Show which I went to as I'd never seen it in a theater before
and Peter and also Cybil Shepherd were there to talk about the film afterwards. (I subsequently got to see another screening
of that film at the Academy's theatre, a 40th Anniversary screening.)

In any case, Peter B. had such a good time that he came to all of the screenings that week and talked about his films.
I also went to see What's Up, Doc? and Paper Moon. All three of those films I've just mentioned are on my top list of favorite films ever.
They also had a screening of Nickolodeon and, Peter B. got his wish, because it was the first ever showing of the film, and maybe only!,
in the way he had originally intended it.  It was in b&w.  THe film was not any better, let's just say.
_____

While tooling around the internet last week I discovered that someone online has a copy of NEBRASKA in color.  Remember that film?
It was only out a couple years ago.  Wonderful film. There's no explanation of how they have it in color, but I'm guessing that they filmed
it in color and then transferred it into b&w. I've heard that is a way to get a certain look for a film than you'd otherwise get if it was just
filmed in b&w.  Strange huh?
_____

The second season of THE LUCY SHOW, that is on DVD, was filmed in color, but aired by CBS in b&w. Which version would
purists choose to watch? The way it was originally shown to everyone, or the way it was actually filmed?

_____

The film DRUMS ALONG THE MOHAWK, 1939, with Henry Fonda and Claudette Colbert, was filmed in color. I recently saw a blu-ray
transfer of it with a friend and the color in that has always had a different quality look to it than many other films, but notin a bad way
in my opinion.  When the film came out in the 80's on VhS, we had customers that would bring it back and refuse to pay for it because
they thought it was colorized and they would not believe that it wasn't when they were told it was filmed in color.
_____

A friend of mine who is a Gone with the Wind superfan, showed me a review of the film once, that was written in 1939, from a woman
who wrote that watching a color film for so long would be detrimental to your eyesight. That such a thing shouldn't be considered. You'd
start having eyesight problems.  True.
_____

As far as watching a film the way the director originally intended:  What if you have a director that keeps tinkering with his films?  What
about Star Wars? The film as presented to audiences now is nothing like the experience of seeing it back in 1977--the quirky little film with
it's endearing imperfections and qualities.  It now looks like a video game.

What about Spielberg and Close Encounters? He's tinkered around with that film a plenty.  There's even two versions of both 1941 and E.T.
now.  The original E.T. and the 20th Anniversary E.T. with altered (cleaned up or enhanced) visual effects and two extra minutes. (And
walkie-talkies instead of guns pointed a the children.)
_____

I guess all I'm suggesting is, that films aren't necessarily as set in stone as we like to think they are.  They're often in different stages of
presentation, whether it's in 70mm or 35mm versions, the sound system of the theatre it's being shown in, the age of the print--we used
to see revival films with bad scratches and edits or faded color (I saw GWTW once in mostly a shade of red and pink). Silent films were often
seen with an entire live orchestra playing the score--or one piano player.


In the South, scenes with black people (Lena Horne musical numbers, for example) were often edited out of a film. My GWTW friend has
shown me some different versions of GWTW that have various differences in the sound effects.  Rustling dresses in one and absent in
another, for example.  We shouldn't even get into film dubbing!  In the 1950's they took a negative and made the film (GWTW) into
widescreen.  They also had Metrocolor prints of the film which in my opinion, should never be
seen. They colorized it into a different look, in other words!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 22, 2016, 03:59:05 PM
 :D  :D  :D

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 22, 2016, 04:18:27 PM
And there's "At Long Last Love", which was in color and black and white.  ;)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 23, 2016, 11:09:24 AM

    :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 23, 2016, 06:44:33 PM
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We could almost have a whole thread on colourization!   Fascinating...


I always loved the way The Wizard of Oz, did the half and half.   And remember Pleasantville?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleasantville_%28film%29


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: oilgun on May 24, 2016, 04:04:25 PM
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And of course there is that red coat in the otherwise B&W Schindler's List which basically ruined the film for me. Speilberg has a way of pisssing me off in most of his movies.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 25, 2016, 05:19:40 AM
I remember watching her on "Alice",  she always made me laugh.


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"Alice" actress Beth Howland  passes away at 74.



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/25/arts/television/beth-howland-accident-prone-waitress-from-the-sitcom-alice-dies-at-74.html?_r=0
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 25, 2016, 04:40:56 PM
I remember watching her on "Alice",  she always made me laugh.


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"Alice" actress Beth Howland  passes away at 74.



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/25/arts/television/beth-howland-accident-prone-waitress-from-the-sitcom-alice-dies-at-74.html?_r=0


I read that, but did you see she died December 2015




Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 25, 2016, 05:32:38 PM
Yeah, about a half a year ago.  I searched the forum, and didn't see any mention of her death, so I posted it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on May 25, 2016, 06:36:18 PM
Yeah, about a half a year ago.  I searched the forum, and didn't see any mention of her death, so I posted it.

No there wouldn't have been, that's what I mean.......it says right in your link:


Beth Howland, who made high anxiety an art form as the ditsy, accident-prone waitress Vera Louise Gorman on the 1970s and ’80s sitcom “Alice,” died on Dec. 31, 2015, in Santa Monica, Calif., her husband said on Tuesday. He had refrained from announcing her death earlier in keeping with her wishes. She was 74.

The cause was lung cancer, her husband, the actor Charles Kimbrough, said, adding that she had not wanted a funeral or a memorial service.

“It was the Boston side of her personality coming out,” Mr. Kimbrough said. “She didn’t want to make a fuss.”
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 25, 2016, 07:31:54 PM
damn.....dying New Year's Eve.......and then not having anyone mention it.     I mean....I understand  that everyone has the right to have their passing  handled the way they want, but surely she knew that her fans would want to remember  her.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 25, 2016, 07:44:55 PM
I'm sorry to hear of her passing.

I recognize her husband's name. Isn't it strange how you sometimes learn who is or was married to who?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 25, 2016, 08:04:50 PM
I'm sorry to hear of her passing.

I recognize her husband's name. Isn't it strange how you sometimes learn who is or was married to who?


yeah, it is, isn't it?   He  played Jim Dial on Murphy Brown, but never knew they were married.  13 years together.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 26, 2016, 03:08:57 PM
You're not alone, the obituary in the Washington Post wasn't until today either.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 26, 2016, 03:58:37 PM
I'm sorry to hear of her passing.

I recognize her husband's name. Isn't it strange how you sometimes learn who is or was married to who?

I just read Beth Howland's obituary. I recognize the name of her first husband, Michael J. Pollard, too.

A Howland from Massachusetts. I bet she was a Mayflower descendant.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 04, 2016, 09:29:18 AM
Yay! Today's episode of Wagon Train on MeTV is "The Ella Lindstrom Story," Bette Davis' first guest appearance. I thought I'd missed it Memorial Day weekend.

Young Robert Fuller was in the cast, too. Boy, was he handsome!  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on June 15, 2016, 12:21:18 PM
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 :-*
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on June 20, 2016, 09:56:36 PM
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 :-*


So cute.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on June 20, 2016, 10:09:17 PM
I saw some episodes of " Good Times" (1974-1979), " The Jeffersons" (1974-1984), and " Diff'rent Strokes" (1978-1986) recently. Gary Coleman was so adorable as Arnold and he could always make me laugh.  Louise "Weasy" Jefferson.  She is probably one of the best TV mothers in television history.  She was sort of like the black version of Lucille Ball and Jean Stapleton.  Those shows were groundbreaking for their time, considering how there were very few TV shows with people of color back then.  I wasn't that big on "Sanford and Son" as much.  "Family Matters" was always funny. Jaleel White is pretty cute, but I cannot help but think of Steve Urkel whenever I see him in any kind of media.  I thought that Darius McCrary was such a little cutie pie.  Reginald Vel Johnson and Jo-Marie Payton, they always kind of reminded me of George and Louise Jefferson.  The grandmother was always funny and somewhat outgoing for a woman of her age, I thought.   The little sister Judy, she was barely in any of the episodes.  I think that the actress who played her went on to become a porn star.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on June 20, 2016, 11:17:23 PM
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Elaine Stritch – a showbiz survivor who at last became a household name in her 80s when she played Colleen Donaghy, the harridan mother of Alec Baldwin's Jack Donaghy, on TV's 30 Rock – died on Thursday at her home in Birmingham, Michigan, reports The New York Times. She was 89.




Only last year, in failing health, she left New York to return to her home state of Michigan to be near relatives, though in the days leading up to her departure from her luxury Carlyle Hotel residence, The Times chronicled her nearly every hiccup – she was such a fixture of the city. As it was, the newspaper noted, in 2003 the New York Landmarks Conservancy had declared her a Living Landmark.

And, just like the city, she was every bit as iconoclastic and unforgiving, to say nothing of boisterous. She was also nearly as famous for the roles she didn't keep as for the ones she did.




Stritch was the first Trixie when Jackie Gleason's The Honeymooners was about to launch (he fired her before airtime), and, years later, she claimed in her 2003 one-woman Broadway show, Elaine Stritch at Liberty, she blew her audition for a new NBC sitcom by dropping an expletive.

The role, that of Dorothy Zbornak on Golden Girls, instead went to Beatrice Arthur.





Broadway Baby

With a voice that was once compared to a car shifting gears without the clutch – and a presence likened to Godzilla in a stalled elevator – Stritch may have been an unlikely Broadway musical star, yet early in her career she understudied for the inimitable Ethel Merman in 1950's Call Me Madam.




In her own right – admittedly, there were dry periods – she went on to star in a 1952 revival of Pal Joey, Noël Coward's 1961 Sail Away, and the landmark 1970 Company, for which she copped a Tony and delivered her own signature song, Stephen Sondheim's paean to Manhattan's jaded upper crust, "The Ladies Who Lunch."

A strict Catholic, as well as the youngest of three girls and the only one to enter show business, Stritch spent 12 years at the Sacred Heart Catholic Girls School, and when she first came to New York, in 1944, she lived in a convent while taking drama classes.

"Let me tell you about those convents," she told PEOPLE in 1988, when she was kicking up dust playing a movie-star mother in Woody Allen's September. "Convent schools teach you to play against everything, which is what I'm still doing."





Married and Widowed

While studying acting at the New School in New York, she dated fellow student Marlon Brando, who "walked into a room and it was knockout time."

Stritch nearly married two other actors, Ben Gazzara and Gig Young, but, she admitted to PEOPLE, "I couldn't bring myself to marry outside the Catholic Church or tie the knot with a divorced man."




While in London in 1973, Stritch – then 47 – married American-born actor John Bay, then 45. It was his first marriage, too. "The word that applies to John is sweet," said Stritch, who, in 1982, the same year the couple returned to live in the U.S., lost him to a brain tumor.

There also was another love in her life: the bottle, despite finally having to go dry because of her diabetes. "Sure, I've gone on with a few drinks under my belt," she also told PEOPLE, "but I've always gone on."

No doubt, the same will hold true for her in the afterlife.


I wasn't aware that Elaine Stritch was supposed to play Dorothy Zbornack on "Golden Girls" (1985-1992).  I don't believe in the concept of an "afterlife", but she will be remembered.  "30 Rock"  was alright. I don't think that very many kids who go to those Roman Catholic convent schools continue being devout members of the Church once they leave them.  I've heard from ex-Roman Catholic friends that those convent schools end up making many kids become very rebellious. Well, that was true for my friends anyway.  Being an ex-member of the RCC, I don't think that growing up in the Church would have been quite as complicated as growing up as a JW, an SDA or as a Mormon.  My Seventh-day Adventist father despite being liberal, he was very much against the use of any and all smoking and alcoholic products.  My mother was too, but the Jehovah's Witnesses can drink alcoholic beverages in moderation.  It is interesting that Stritch could have married Marlon Brando.  Could you imagine what their kids would have been like?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on June 20, 2016, 11:23:57 PM
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Florence Henderson. A pretty woman with too many kids.  I always liked " The Brady Bunch".  Robert Reed, he hated the show and tried to leave it so many times from what I heard.  He was gay, but he lead the life of an Ennis Del Mar, if I am correct.  I don't think he ever dated another man.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on June 21, 2016, 06:04:51 AM


Florence Henderson. A pretty woman with too many kids.  I always liked " The Brady Bunch".  Robert Reed, he hated the show and tried to leave it so many times from what I heard.  He was gay, but he lead the life of an Ennis Del Mar, if I am correct.  I don't think he ever dated another man.

I am in a rush, but will go look up Robert Reed later..

I loved the Brady Bunch and unlike Ennis, Father Brady seemed very happy, he was the perfect husband and dad and I always thought there was great chemistry between those two.


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 21, 2016, 06:34:48 PM
From what I recall, Robert Reed was HIV positive when he died.

According to wikipedia:


Reed was gay but kept this fact private, fearing it would damage his career.  In July 1954, Reed married fellow Northwestern student Marilyn Rosenberger.  The couple had one daughter, Karen, before divorcing in 1959.

After his death, Reed's Brady Bunch co-stars – most notably Barry Williams and Florence Henderson – publicly acknowledged Reed's sexual orientation, and admitted that most of the cast and crew of The Brady Bunch were aware, but they did not discuss it with Reed. Barry Williams said, "Robert didn't want to go there. I don't think he talked about it with anyone. I just don't think it was a discussion – period."

In November 1991, Reed was diagnosed with colon cancer.   When he became ill, he allowed only his daughter and his close friend actress Anne Haney to visit him.  Haney later said of Reed, "He came from the old school, where people had a sense of decorum. He went the way he wanted to, without publicity."  Weeks before his death, Reed called his former co-star Florence Henderson and asked her to inform the rest of the Brady Bunch cast that he was terminally ill.  He died on May 12, 1992, at Huntington Memorial Hospital in Pasadena, California, aged 59.

Reed's death was initially attributed solely to cancer, but details from his death certificate were made public revealing that Reed was HIV positive.  It is unknown when Reed contracted HIV because he kept his condition private, telling only a few close friends.  While Reed did not have AIDS at the time of his death, his doctor listed his HIV-positive status as a "significant condition that contributed to death" on the death certificate.

Reed is buried at Memorial Park Cemetery in Skokie, Illinois.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 23, 2016, 11:58:20 AM
Hello Ultimate Brokeback Forum Members.

Recently, an image with a copyright marking was posted on the forum. This resulted in Dave Cullen being contacted by the attorney of the photographer who owns the rights to the image.

A lawsuit is now possible, with the maximum fine against the forum in the amount of $150,000.00.

It is vital that no one posts copyrighted images on the forum. It is stealing. The posting of copyrighted images cannot and will not be tolerated, and anyone knowingly posting copyrighted images and putting the forum in jeopardy this way will be banned.

Usually, a copyrighted photo will have this familiar symbol on it:

©

If you come across an image that his this marking on it, it has a copyright on it, and can't be used publicly unless the poster pays for it.  Another way to tell if an image has a copyright, when you search the images on Google, when you select the image, instead of selecting  "view image" click on "visit page".  If this  brings you to a page with the image and a list of prices, the image carries a copyright and you need to pay to download it.  To download it without paying for it is stealing.

Thank you.
Dave Cullen
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 25, 2016, 12:05:47 PM
For whatever reason, MeTV seems to have skipped over a number of episodes of Wagon Train. I saw "The Ella Lindstrom Story" (Bette Davis) on June 4, and "The Last Man" (Dan Duryea) on June 11. I missed whatever they showed June 18 because I was visiting my dad for Father's Day weekend, but today they showed "The Matthew Lowry Story" (a very young Richard Anderson, Cathleen Nesbit, Dorothy Provine). According to the episode guide I have, which lists the episodes in order, there were six episodes between "The Last Man" and "The Matthew Lowry Story." I wonder what gives?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 25, 2016, 07:54:39 PM
There could be multiple reasons as to why those episodes are not in rotation.

Subject material now considered "offensive", licensing  issues with music, anything  could be a cause.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 25, 2016, 07:56:48 PM
Congratulations to Lyle (Mooska)  on reaching 16,000+ posts!!!!!




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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on June 25, 2016, 08:01:58 PM
CONGRATS BBM-16XM, LYLE!!!!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on June 26, 2016, 08:01:40 AM
Congratulations to Lyle (Mooska)  on reaching 16,000+ posts!!!!!




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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 26, 2016, 11:42:05 AM
Oh, lordy!  Thank you!
I just noticed that, how did it take me so long.   ;D

All in the Family? 

Well, speaking of All in the Family, take a look at this...I saw this online not too long ago.

Someone in the 1970's took some snapshots in the parking lot
"...from Television City in Hollywood!"

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The photos have a "Sep 71" date on them. The show began airing in January of 1971
so these were taken at the beginning of the program's historical success! These kinds
of snapshots bring back memories.  You took pictures with film in a camera! Being in
a small town, we had to mail the film away and get the pictures back at some point.
Sometimes we'd have film that wouldn't get processed for several months.  We'd have
pictures taken in the snow that might come back with a "Jun 74" date on them, for
example, because that's when the film got processed. Always good for a laugh. And
polaroid cameras, well, I thought they were always messy. You could get a photo right
away, but over the years those photos didn't seem to hold up, they'd come apart and
the color never really looked right to me.  Now?  Photos are ubiquitous. No big deal.

Imagine the tourist who got to snap those photos above.  Were they excited?  I doubt
now that anyone could have access to that parking lot and do something like that.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 26, 2016, 12:41:36 PM
For whatever reason, MeTV seems to have skipped over a number of episodes of Wagon Train. I saw "The Ella Lindstrom Story" (Bette Davis) on June 4, and "The Last Man" (Dan Duryea) on June 11. I missed whatever they showed June 18 because I was visiting my dad for Father's Day weekend, but today they showed "The Matthew Lowry Story" (a very young Richard Anderson, Cathleen Nesbit, Dorothy Provine). According to the episode guide I have, which lists the episodes in order, there were six episodes between "The Last Man" and "The Matthew Lowry Story." I wonder what gives?

There could be multiple reasons as to why those episodes are not in rotation.

Subject material now considered "offensive", licensing  issues with music, anything  could be a cause.

To be sure. Still seems odd though that it's six consecutive episodes. I would suspect it might have to do with some technical issue, or simple human error. The episodes are included in my DVD set of the season.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 26, 2016, 01:18:17 PM
^^^^^^

Who knows, Jeff?  When Me-TV was showing the Batman series a few years ago
a friend and I were watching it and discussing them each week and all of a sudden
they skipped an episode then aired a couple on a different night for some reason.
They also entirely skipped a three part episode and never did air it.  It got really
confusing.

Then, when they were showing Get Smart, I was looking out for a particular episode.
It was in the start of the 4th season and was coming up.  But when they got there they
skipped half of the fourth season and started in the middle when they put it on at a different
time.  I thought that might have had something to do with them skipping it, so I kept an eye
out and months later when the episode should have aired, they scrambled the episodes again
in a slightly different way. What was going on?  I don't know, but I gave up.

Maybe they think some people are purposely copying all the episodes and they want to screw
them up and keep coming back for some ratings or something, who knows?

In other cases, sometimes--episodes are aired in Production # order and not air date order
which can confuse people because that's not always the same order. A couple years ago I got
a great deal on the box set of Combat!, a series I'd seen relatively little of, but wanted to. The
episodes are on the discs in Prod. # order and in some cases they are wildly out of order from
the air date order. I know, because I wanted to watch them in air date order and had to keep
switching the disks around all the time.

Twelve O'Clock High was aired in production order on Me-TV and in one specific case was wildly
maddening because there was a three part trilogy of episodes where the third part was aired
several days after the first two.

Who knows why all these things happen, but they do and can be frustrating, especially if one is
looking for something in particular.

If you want a really maddening example of the ordr of episodes, on a dvd-set, not on a channel,
when one company put out the first season of "Car 54", they decided to put the episodes on in
order of what was surveyed to be the best to the worst.

So, in effect, if you were watching the disks every show was theoretically getting worse and worse.
After so many complaints, the second season was put in air date order, but I don't know if they
ever re-did the first season.  Besides, "best shows" is in the eye of the beholder. They considered
the first season Christmas episode to be the lowest rated and last episode presented and I liked it
much more than most other first season ones.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 26, 2016, 05:17:54 PM
This can happen with cartoons as well.

When the 1978 version of Super Friends was released, it was titled "Challenge Of The Super Friends" and split into two 24 minute shows.  The first 24 was Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman & Robin & Aquaman (the big 5) with the Wonder Twins.  The second 24 minutes featured "the big 5" plus Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkman, Black Vulcan, Samurai & Apache Chief.

When the show went into syndication and re-runs, it was aired usually as a half-hour show, so when Challenge episodes aired, the first set with The Wonder Twins was never shown.  Most fans didn't see them again until the entire series was on DVD.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 26, 2016, 06:18:21 PM
Thanks, Lyle and Chuck. Interesting reading.  :)
I'm remembering now that I noticed some discrepancy in episode order in the two DVD releases of my childhood favorite Daniel Boone, compared to each other and the episode guide I found on line, but I can't recall exactly what the discrepancy was. But it sounds as though this sort of thing is actually common.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on July 04, 2016, 08:57:58 PM
Noel Neill, Actress Who Played First Lois Lane, Dies at 95

Noel Neill, the first actress to play Superman’s gal pal Lois Lane onscreen, died July 3 in Tucson, Ariz. after a long illness. Her manager and biographer Larry Ward shared a statement on Facebook, saying that she “maintained that bright, perky and engaging personality up until her death.”

Her first appearance as Lois Lane was in the 1948 movie serial “Superman,” which showed her talent for humor. She then appeared in the sequel “Atom Man vs Superman.” The 1950s television series “Adventures of Superman,” starring George Reeves, gave her a longtime role as the intrepid reporter, and she said later in interviews that she simply played herself.


http://variety.com/2016/film/news/noel-neill-dead-dieslois-lane-superman-1201808389/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 05, 2016, 01:57:42 AM
I'm sorry to hear of her passing. Didn't she have a cameo in the first Superman movie with Christopher Reeve? Or do I have her confused with someone else?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on July 05, 2016, 10:30:34 AM
No, she played Lois  Lane's mother in the first movie.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 05, 2016, 02:51:24 PM
No, she played Lois  Lane's mother in the first movie.

Thanks, Linda.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 07, 2016, 07:32:59 AM
Last night I saw something in a movie that seems to relate to a classic TV show.

TCM showed Ride the High Country (directed by the great Sam Peckinpah), which I believe was the swan song for both its stars, Joel McCrae and Randolph Scott (and, apparently, "introduced" Mariette Hartley). A couple of scenes in the film involved the outside of a farm house as part of the setting. The house had a porch and a very distinctive T-shaped chimney against one gable end, with a lean-to next to the chimney. Now, I don't know anything about building sets for movies or TV shows, but that chimney was unmistakable. The chimney was identical to the chimney of "the Boone cabin" on Daniel Boone (the porch and lean-to were familiar as well). The movie farm house was not a log cabin, so I really can't speak to the actual "relationship" to the Boone cabin, but I'm sure I'm not mistaken. Daniel Boone was my favorite show as a kid, and I know it too well. Perhaps they just recycled parts when it came to constructing the Boone cabin.

Edit to Add: I did some checking and I see Ride the High Country was not the last picture for McCrea, though it was for Scott.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 20, 2016, 02:54:16 PM
I hadn't expected to watch Wagon Train this morning; I really did need to get moving with my Saturday chores. But then I saw that the guest star was Angie Dickinson. The episode was The Clara Duncan Story, first broadcast April 22, 1959. I guess Angie wasn't yet a big enough star to get a mention in the opening credits for this episode, like some stars did, but I always liked Angie Dickinson, so of course I ended up watching the episode.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 05, 2016, 04:05:57 PM
I just read that Hugh O'Brian passed away today, 9/5/16, at age 91. Sad news. What a handsome man he was. R.I.P., "Wyatt Earp."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on September 05, 2016, 04:42:49 PM
Oh that is sad to hear. So many are gone. He was totally hot and I had a crush on him way back when.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 23, 2016, 11:36:21 AM
More sad news. I learned from today's newspaper that James Stacy died September 9 in Ventura, CA. He was 79. I remember Stacy as a real hottie, circa 1970, and I was reminded of that a few years ago when I caught him in a guest role in an episode of Marcus Welby, M.D.

That episode seemed eerily prescient when I saw it, because his character rode a motorcycle (as did James Brolin's character, Dr. Steven Kiley). However, watching that episode, I remembered that Stacy's career was more or less ended when he was hit by a drunk driver while riding his motorcycle. That happened in 1973; Stacy lost his left arm and his left leg.

The newspaper gave the cause of death as an allergic reaction to medication.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 24, 2016, 12:25:47 PM
Well, here's something to combine Classic TV with movies of a certain vintage.

Anybody remember the movie Billy Jack (1971) and its sequels (none of which I saw)?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066832/?ref_=nv_sr_1 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066832/?ref_=nv_sr_1)

On today's episode of Wagon Train, an episode that first aired May 27, 1959, one of the supporting players was Tom Laughlin, Billy Jack himself.

According to the IMDb entry for him, Laughlin was born in 1931 and died in 2013.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 01, 2016, 08:36:59 AM
Evidently as of today, October 1, MeTV has changed its schedule. It appears they are now showing Daniel Boone at 10 a.m. on Saturdays.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 13, 2016, 02:55:02 PM

I always liked variety shows growing up and I probably still enjoy watching them partly out of nostalgia.
I really enjoyed watching Maya Rudolph's six episode summer variety series Maya & Marty on NBC.

This year I discovered a youtube channel that posted 75 complete episodes online and most of them
are with the original commercials. That's over 1/3 of all the episodes from the series and it's a show
I'd never watched growing up so I've been watching one or two of them a week this year.  Lot's of great
stars of yesterday, lots of then current acts and lots of circus type variety acts from people I've never
heard of. Some people are largely forgotten, but it's really a cornucopia of variety acts, like vaudeville
I imagine was.

None of the retro channels have had variety series scheduled and I've even written to them to inquire
about programming them. I realize that variety, by it's very nature, is topical and many joke references
might be from then current politics, commercials or films, other tv series or events in the news and might
seem dated, but if the premise of a sketch is good, it's still worth it, to me anyway.  Also, variety shows
are usually very uneven because each sketch has to stand on its own. (Also, music rights can be prohibitive.)

I bring all this up because the relatively new GET-TV retro channel has been airing a whole lot of series
that other channels have not touched so far and, to my enjoyment, they have a three-hour block each
Monday night (repeated once) of variety series and specials.  Currently, in the first hour, they are airing
episodes of The Sonny and Cher Show (or Cher or The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour) then a variety special
or select episode of a regular variety series and then an episode of Merv Griffin's series anywhere from the
60's through the 80's.

Some episodes of variety series I've watched the past two or three months are:

The Sonny & Cher Show
The Jim Nabors Hour
The Judy Garland Show
The Perry Como Show
The Danny Kaye Show

There were variety "specials" from:
Van Dyke and Company (Dick Van Dyke)
Dick Van Dyke and the Other Woman (Dick and Mary Tyler Moore)
Mitzi Gaynor
The Smokey Robinson Show (with The Temptations and the Supremes)
Dolly Parton
Barbra Streisand
Bing Crosby Special
Friars Roast of Don Rickles

Some guests on Merv Griffin's shows were:
Olivia DeHavilland
Bette Davis
Joan Crawford
Dolly Parton
Gloria Swanson
The entire cast of The Golden Girls

Next Monday the lineup is:

The Sonny And Cher Comedy Hour
1973 | Featuring Merv Griffin

The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour
1967 | Featuring Bette Davis And The Who

The Merv Griffin Show
1967 | Featuring President Richard Nixon, Selma Diamond, And David Susskind

I believe one of their commercials states that because it's election season this Merv Griffin
and the two or three afterwards feature people who were or would become Presidents. Nixon,
then Ford, Carter and Reagan are scheduled.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 13, 2016, 02:56:51 PM

Some of the series Get-TV is airing:

WESTERNS
Cimarron City
A Man Called Shenandoah
Father Murphy
Hondo
Laredo
Nichols
The Restless Gun
The Tall Man
Whispering Smith

COMEDY
Ensign O'Toole
Nanny and the Professor
The Bill Engvall Show
The Ghost and Mrs. Muir
The Jeff Foxworthy Show
The Thin Man

What category do you put: Seven Brides for Seven Brothers?
An early 80's series, set in the 80's, featuring the brothers trying
to keep their ranch together. And it has musical numbers!

DRAMA
Felony Squad
Johnny Staccato
The Lieutenant
Tour of Duty

ACTION
Airwolf
Hardcastle & McCormick
Riptide
S.W.A.T.
The Equalizer

They also program a lot of movies from the Columbia Studios/Sony catalog.
A lot of westerns in the mix.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 14, 2016, 07:36:48 AM
Interesting list of series, Lyle. Makes we wish I got Get-TV.

I remember watching Hondo and Laredo (had the very handsome Peter Brown in it). I remember but didn't watch Cimarron City, Father Murphy (with former football player Merlin Olsen), and A Man Called Shenandoah (would like to see now as I believe it starred my idol Robert Horton, who passed away earlier this year).

We watched Nanny and the Professor and The Ghost and Mrs. Muir.

I remember seeing some episodes of Riptide (Perry King and Joe Penney) and S.W.A.T. (the token woman was Kate Jackson, before she hit it big with Charlie's Angels.)

No memory at all of that Seven Brides for Seven Brothers series.  Now, if you go back to the Sixties and Here Come the Brides, that's another matter. ...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 14, 2016, 10:39:49 AM

Jeff, I don't know what your TV provider is, but a quick search of the Get-TV site says
these channels are available to you:
   
Philadelphia:   
Station/Provider: DISH Philadelphia   Channel 373
Station/Provider: Verizon Fios Philadelphia   Channel 495
Station/Provider: Antenna (over the air)   Broadcast Channel 65.3

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 14, 2016, 11:15:06 AM

Were you interested in any of the Variety series, Jeff?

I watched an episode of The Lieutenant. It was a show from 1963-64 and
took place in Camp Pendleton. Briefly, it "explores the lives of enlisted Marines
and general officers alike."  It was created by Gene Roddenberry, who went on
to Star Trek after this.  I liked it, but it was aired practically in the middle of
the night.

The other one I'd like to catch is Ensign O'Toole. That started in 1962.

Like, McHale's Navy, it was a military comedy, but it was set in the present and
was based on "All the Ships at Sea" and "Ensign O'Toole and Me," two books by
William Lederer, about the exploits of a nonchalant United States Navy ensign
during the early 1960's.

An ad for the series has a conversation between the characters "O'Toole" and "St. John"
and reveals that the two officers are twenty-four years of age. O'Toole remarks that
St. John wouldn't like to be in the position of the Lieutenant Commander Virgil Stoner,
commanding junior officers half his age. St. John jokes that he wouldn't like that either,
"who wants to be on the ship with a bunch of twelve-year old officers?"

LOL!  That made me laugh out loud and interested in catching the show. I looked it up a
bit online and there was some mention of a few plots in the series. 

This plot seems to have been used here and there in several movies and series:

In "Operation Holdout" the crew found four stranded soldiers, two American and two Japanese,
who think World War II is still underway.

This one sounds amusing:

In "Operation Model T" Terence O'Toole buys a Model T on a French island in the South Pacific and
tries to camouflage it in pieces aboard the ship so he can reassemble it after returning to California,
but runs afoul of an admiral who is an antique car collector.

But this plot sounds quite amusing for a 1962 TV series:

In "Operation Potomac" O'Toole tries to determine why someone sent him a dress while the ship is in
port near Washington, D.C. The unsolicited gift inspires lots of ribbing from his fellow crew members.

I'll bet it does!

All the people, except one, in the cast I recognize from other things in the 60's. If you don't know
the name, you'd probably recognize them: Dean Jones, Jack Mullaney, Jay C. Flippen, Jack Albertson,
Harvey Lembeck, Beau Bridges, Robert Sorrells, Ken Berry and John McGiver.

Get-TV airs the shows in their original length, which back then could be 50-52 mins. for an hour show
and 25+ for a half-hour show.  However, to get in their commercial times the dramas run in slots of
an hour and twenty mins. and 40 mins. for the comedies.  Still, you know you're seeing them uncut.

The variety series all are in one hour slots, so I don't know if they cut stuff out of those or what?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 14, 2016, 11:47:46 AM
Jeff, I don't know what your TV provider is, but a quick search of the Get-TV site says
these channels are available to you:
   
Philadelphia:   
Station/Provider: DISH Philadelphia   Channel 373
Station/Provider: Verizon Fios Philadelphia   Channel 495
Station/Provider: Antenna (over the air)   Broadcast Channel 65.3

Ha! Would you believe, none of them?

Comcast has the contract to supply cable service to my condo building, and I receive a certain level of service as part of my monthly condo fee. I don't know how what we receive compares to what might be "basic" service in a stand-alone house, but it's adequate for my needs. I could do with fewer shopping channels, but I get the local stations, the Weather Channel, TCM, and even HBO, which we didn't used to get, and others as well. I don't know if the building gets Verizon Fios. I have a Verizon DSL modem for my home PC, and I keep a Verizon land line phone, too. As for using Fios for TV, you would have to pay for it, of course, but in my book that would be paying twice for TV service--condo fee for Comcast and individually for Fios--so I'll stick with what I get for my condo fee as long as it meets my needs.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 14, 2016, 11:51:48 AM
Were you interested in any of the Variety series, Jeff?

I loved Sonny and Cher's show! I have fading memories of the Smothers brothers. We watched Merv Griffin's talk show, too.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 15, 2016, 10:36:57 AM
Today's episode of Wagon Train (season 2, #37, June 17, 1959) took its inspiration from Jane Austen, mainly Pride and Prejudice but with a nod to Sense and Sensibility. Lee Patrick ("Mrs. Upson" in Auntie Mame) played a widow with four daughters--Faith, Hope, Charity, and Prudence--for whom she was hunting husbands. Faith was the Lizzie Bennett character, whose pride led her to be prejudiced against the wealthy owner of a silver mine, the Mr. Darcy character who here was called Bill Dashwood. Prudence wasn't; she ran off with a handsome young army lieutenant, and they were married before Mr. Dashwood could catch up to them. In the end, Faith married Mr. Dashwood, Hope married Dashwood's handsome nephew, a young man with "prospects," Charity married a bookish young fellow (played by Claude Jarman, Jr., grown up from The Yearling), and the widow set her cap for Major Adams, the wagonmaster.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on October 19, 2016, 05:41:39 AM
More sad news. I learned from today's newspaper that James Stacy died September 9 in Ventura, CA. He was 79. I remember Stacy as a real hottie, circa 1970, and I was reminded of that a few years ago when I caught him in a guest role in an episode of Marcus Welby, M.D.

That episode seemed eerily prescient when I saw it, because his character rode a motorcycle (as did James Brolin's character, Dr. Steven Kiley). However, watching that episode, I remembered that Stacy's career was more or less ended when he was hit by a drunk driver while riding his motorcycle. That happened in 1973; Stacy lost his left arm and his left leg.

The newspaper gave the cause of death as an allergic reaction to medication.


Just came on and read this and thought, hey I remember him.    Was reading his bio and saw this though, shocking:


In November 1995, Stacy pleaded no contest to a charge of molesting an 11-year-old girl.[9] On December 7, 1995, he failed to appear for sentencing in Ventura County Superior Court and was arrested the next day in a Honolulu, Hawaii, hospital after having fled California. He attempted suicide by jumping off a cliff. After recovering, Stacy waived extradition and returned to California. On March 5, 1996, he received a six-year prison sentence. The prosecutor in the case initially said she believed Stacy might have been eligible for probation for the molestation, but his post-arrest behavior, coupled with two arrests in June 1995 for prowling at the homes of other girls,[2] led her to seek a prison sentence.[10][11] He served his sentence at the California Institution for Men at Chino.[2] He was placed on the list of California's registered sex offenders.[12]




Anyway haven't been on the board in months (if anyone noticed) said I was banned from the forum..   It's not the first time it has happened.   I keep hearing it's a "glitch" no clue...


Just happened to try today and got on, so thought I better check in on my thread..
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 19, 2016, 07:41:28 AM

Just came on and read this and thought, hey I remember him.    Was reading his bio and saw this though, shocking:


In November 1995, Stacy pleaded no contest to a charge of molesting an 11-year-old girl.[9] On December 7, 1995, he failed to appear for sentencing in Ventura County Superior Court and was arrested the next day in a Honolulu, Hawaii, hospital after having fled California. He attempted suicide by jumping off a cliff. After recovering, Stacy waived extradition and returned to California. On March 5, 1996, he received a six-year prison sentence. The prosecutor in the case initially said she believed Stacy might have been eligible for probation for the molestation, but his post-arrest behavior, coupled with two arrests in June 1995 for prowling at the homes of other girls,[2] led her to seek a prison sentence.[10][11] He served his sentence at the California Institution for Men at Chino.[2] He was placed on the list of California's registered sex offenders.[12]

Shocking and sad.  :(

Quote
Anyway haven't been on the board in months (if anyone noticed) said I was banned from the forum..   It's not the first time it has happened.   I keep hearing it's a "glitch" no clue...

Just happened to try today and got on, so thought I better check in on my thread..

Hope it was just an electronic glitch. Glad to see you back.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on October 19, 2016, 11:48:22 AM
Anyway haven't been on the board in months (if anyone noticed) said I was banned from the forum..   It's not the first time it has happened.   I keep hearing it's a "glitch" no clue...


what do you use to access the internet/forum?  IE?  Google Chrome?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 19, 2016, 12:43:26 PM
Anyway haven't been on the board in months (if anyone noticed) said I was banned from the forum..   It's not the first time it has happened.   I keep hearing it's a "glitch" no clue...

Just happened to try today and got on, so thought I better check in on my thread..

This happened to me on "another forum." I couldn't get on using Internet Explorer; I got a "banned" message. I discovered I was able to get on using Google Chrome. Then one day, just for kicks, I tried again on Internet Explorer, and I was able to get back on; no "banned" message.

I haven't tried with Internet Explorer lately; I've been using Google Chrome here at the office.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on October 19, 2016, 02:19:44 PM
Should I use google chrome?  I use firefox!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 19, 2016, 04:18:09 PM
Should I use google chrome?  I use firefox!

Maybe you should try Google Chrome. I don't know anything about Firefox.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 20, 2016, 07:27:19 AM
Rats!  >:(  Earlier this week there was a notice in the newspaper when It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown will be broadcast this year, and I forgot to note the date. And I don't have the paper anymore. Rats!  >:(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 20, 2016, 09:55:25 AM

I believe it was on before the debate last night.
Out here it was an hour after the debate.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 21, 2016, 07:34:51 AM
Rats!  >:(  Earlier this week there was a notice in the newspaper when It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown will be broadcast this year, and I forgot to note the date. And I don't have the paper anymore. Rats!  >:(

I believe it was on before the debate last night.
Out here it was an hour after the debate.

Was that juxtaposition an editorial comment on the part of the network?  :D

I have a DVD copy to fall back on. It's a new addition to my library, never played before, so I hope it works. It just isn't Halloween without The Great Pumpkin!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 21, 2016, 10:41:53 AM
Was that juxtaposition an editorial comment on the part of the network?  :D

Why didn't I think of that? Heh!





Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 25, 2016, 08:00:36 AM
Rats!  >:(  Earlier this week there was a notice in the newspaper when It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown will be broadcast this year, and I forgot to note the date. And I don't have the paper anymore. Rats!  >:(

I have a DVD copy to fall back on. It's a new addition to my library, never played before, so I hope it works. It just isn't Halloween without The Great Pumpkin!  :D

Sunday evening there wasn't a single thing on broadcast/cable that I wanted to watch, so I played my DVD of The Great Pumpkin. The DVD worked fine, and now it seems like Halloween.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on October 25, 2016, 08:46:46 PM
^^^^^ Love it!! ♥
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 26, 2016, 07:53:49 AM
^^^^^ Love it!! ♥

Sally Brown's reaction to having missed Halloween (because she was sitting in the pumpkin patch with Linus) has always resonated with me because I had chickenpox in October the year I was in first grade, and I almost missed Halloween that year.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 29, 2016, 09:21:07 AM
Tell you what, Daniel Boone remains my favorite childhood TV show, but now when I watch some of the episodes from the middle of the 1960s, the cultural insensitivity when it comes to the Indians makes me cringe.  :(

"How!" indeed!  >:(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 29, 2016, 07:51:41 PM
On today's episode of Wagon Train (which I've seen before on Me-TV), the guest star was the lovely Debra Paget.

Of course she and hunky Robert Horton had to have a romance, and as they had to split up to go their separate ways, Horton quoted the famous lines, "Parting is all we know of heaven/ And all we need of hell," from "My Life Closed Twice," by Emily Dickinson, one of my favorite poets. The lines were appropriate for the plot, but anachronistic, as the poem wasn't published for the first time until 1896.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on October 29, 2016, 07:55:20 PM
When does WAGON TRAIN take place, Jeff?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 30, 2016, 01:01:52 AM
When does WAGON TRAIN take place, Jeff?

Shortly after the Civil War. There is an episode that shows that Major Adams, Bill Hawks, and Charlie Wooster all served together during the war.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on October 30, 2016, 06:11:36 PM
Shortly after the Civil War. There is an episode that shows that Major Adams, Bill Hawks, and Charlie Wooster all served together during the war.

OK, thanks, Jeff!! I just wasn't sure the time frame.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on October 31, 2016, 04:13:05 PM
Watched The Walton's the other night - never grows old - and Ron Howard was the guest star.  Sometimes I think they over act on there, but most of the time it hits you right in the gut! lol


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on October 31, 2016, 04:47:18 PM
I remember that episode, Ron Howard played a good friend of John Boy, who had leukemia, which was completely uncurable back then.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on October 31, 2016, 07:00:41 PM
Episodes like this struck me as a bit odd. The guest star played a long time friend, sometimes portrayed as best friend, of the main character (though no mention had ever been made of him before), and he died at the end of the episode, with no mention made of him afterwards. Quite a number of shows made use of this plot device.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on October 31, 2016, 09:09:38 PM
I never got into that one.  I did watch Little House pretty regularly.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on November 08, 2016, 06:25:34 AM
Episodes like this struck me as a bit odd. The guest star played a long time friend, sometimes portrayed as best friend, of the main character (though no mention had ever been made of him before), and he died at the end of the episode, with no mention made of him afterwards. Quite a number of shows made use of this plot device.

Very true!  :laugh:


And as much as I did love The Waltons, I would say I loved Little House more.   Some of the tragic episodes in that series scarred me for life.


What I have been catching lately is The Odd Couple.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065329/


Tony and Jack are just perfectly matched or mismatched I guess you would say.


I haven't watched the new version, don't really have any desire to.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 21, 2016, 10:36:28 AM
The episode of Wagon Train that ran on MeTV Saturday morning included the amusing casting of Ernest Borgnine as a Basque sheepherder! Equally amusing was the casting of a pre-Spock Leonard Nimoy as Borgnine's son.  ;D

The episode of Daniel Boone that preceded Wagon Train, I suppose shown out of original broadcast order because of the coming holiday, was the utterly anachronistic Thanksgiving episode from Season 2, which featured the second and final appearance of the great John McIntire as Rebecca Boone's father, itinerant peddler and teller of tall tales Timothy Patrick Bryan.

Saturday evening I needed to watch something reliably amusing and entertaining but not too long, so I ran a DVD copy of the Daniel Boone Season 1 episode "The Sisters O'Hannrahan," where Daniel inadvertently buys the indenture of two Irish immigrant sisters. I never cease to enjoy this episode because of its combination of comedy and action/adventure. Fifties B-movie starlet (or so IMDb says) Fay Spain played the sharp-tongued elder of the two sisters, and I think she's quite good in what I believe is essentially a character role. Reliable supporting actor Don Megowan plays the blacksmith with whom Spain exchanges barbs.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 21, 2016, 07:04:12 PM
And as much as I did love The Waltons, I would say I loved Little House more.   Some of the tragic episodes in that series scarred me for life.

Funny, isn't it?  We can remember things that happened to fictional people, and these things had effects  on  us for life?   I will never forget seeing "Nestor the Long-Eared Donkey" one Christmas, only saw it once, but can clearly remember it, because of how sad it made me feel.

LOL
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on November 25, 2016, 10:42:33 AM
My kids still talk about Emmet Otters Jug Band Christmas, they saw it once on TV as kids and cried... I should see if I can buy it on DVD..  :laugh:   They are men now, they can handle it.


Anyway poor Momma Brady, I was so sad to hear this today.  The Brady Bunch was one of my favourite shows growing up.


(http://images.mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_640x430/public/brady_primary.jpg)



Rest in peace pretty lady!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 25, 2016, 08:24:29 PM
So, we've lost the three adults on the show.  Sad.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on November 26, 2016, 08:52:16 AM
Just noticed that Ann B. Davis' ashes are interred at a church in Boerne TX, where we stayed for the BBQ.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 26, 2016, 05:44:40 PM
really?  I didn't know that!  What a coincidence!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on November 26, 2016, 05:47:16 PM


Ron Glass, who shot to fame with his role on the television series Barney Miller, has sadly died at the age of 71.

The actor died on Friday (November 25) after a battle with various illnesses, his rep told TMZ.


Barney Miller ran for eight seasons, from 1974 until 1982, and Ron received an Emmy nomination for his work on the final season.

Some of Ron‘s other memorable roles include ones on The New Odd Couple, an episode of Friends as Ross’ divorce lawyer Russell, Family Matters, Firefly, Serenity, and most recently, a guest spot on CSI in 2014.

We send our thoughts and condolences to Ron‘s loved ones during this difficult time.



 :(  2016 is not going out quietly.   Barney Miller was one of our favourites back in the day.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 27, 2016, 02:49:58 PM
I hadn't heard about Ron Glass. That's sad news. Florence Henderson's death came as a shock.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: bubba on November 27, 2016, 04:26:40 PM
I agree, it was sad about Ron, he was too young, but he has been off my radar for a long time.   Florence though, that came out of no where, I can't stop thinking about it actually.   :'(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 02, 2016, 08:11:57 AM
The colorized I Love Lucy Christmas special is being broadcast tonight.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 02, 2016, 10:49:19 AM
^^^

Yes, somehow I missed last December's airing and they showed the
Holiday episode plus a colorized version of the Vitameatavegemin
episode. I wish I'd seen that.  This year the new colorized episode
is "Lucy Gets in Pictures."  Then in May they've been showing two
new colorized episodes the past few years.  Slowly, but surely, they
are colorizing the whole series!  Heh!  I wonder if there's a list of all
they've colorized?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 02, 2016, 11:14:43 AM

I looked that up.  There are TEN "I Love Lucy" episodes that have been colorized
and this is the list in order of when they were colorized.

I Love Lucy Christmas Show
Lucy Goes to Scotland
Lucy's Italian Movie
Job Switching
L.A. at Last!
Lucy Meets Superman
Lucy Does a TV Commercial
Lucy Visits Grauman's
Lucy and John Wayne
Lucy Gets in Pictures


I Love Lucy Christmas Show:
This episode, though the first to be colorized, has been tinkered with in several ways for years.
This episode was thought lost for quite a long time because it was never put into syndication
and intended as a special for fans when it first aired in 1956. CBS discovered a copy of it in
1989 and decided to broadcast it that year on Monday night in Lucy's original time slot. It
was in the top ten shows for the week. The next year they aired it with the wraparound
scenes colorized, leaving the flashbacks in black and white. They did so until 1994. When
I Love Lucy's fifth season came out on dvd, they included the episode as originally aired in
black and white, but included the colorized segments only as an extra.

In 2013, after almost two decades, they decided to air it again. This time they re-colorized it,
leaving the flashback sequences in black and white. (One noticeable difference in the second
version is the color of Little Ricky's pajamas. I preferred the original way they did it.

Last December, they aired it again (this is the hour with Lucy Does a Commercial that I missed)
and this time they also colorized the flashback sequences.  For an episode that was MIA for over
three decades, it's sure been tinkered with ever since reappearing!  I wasn't going to watch the
Holiday episode part of the show tonight, but I didn't know last year they had colorized those
flashback parts (did I say I missed it? Heh!) so I will.

Well, ten episodes out of 180 is only 5.5% of them, but I enjoy seeing them in a different light
every once in awhile.  But at three episodes a year, if they continue that, it's going to be awhile.

Anyone have an episode they'd like to see in color?  In terms of something to do with color, I would
like to see The Fashion Show where Lucy is in Hollywood and wants to buy a Don Loper original. I'd
like to see them match the colors that Don Loper says all the ladies are wearing when he narrates the
fashion show, and see Lucy's sunburn and Ricky's red face!

I'd also like to see Ricky asks for a raise when Lucy, Fred and Ethel keep appearing as different characters
going to Ricky's old nightclub to get the owner to rehire him. It even includes Fred in drag!  We shall see,
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 02, 2016, 11:41:51 AM
"Hello, friends! Do you feel tired, run down? Do you poop out at parties?"

 :D

They've already done my two most favorite episodes, "L.A. at Last" and "Lucy Does a TV Commercial" (I assume that's "Vitameatavegamin").

I seem to remember one other that I thought was pretty funny. I don't know the title, but it was when they were getting ready to go to Hollywood, and Fred showed up with a beat-up old car that reminded me of the Clampett's truck, and in the end they get the nice convertible that they actually use to make the trip.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 02, 2016, 12:21:27 PM
Do you pop out at parties?  Are you unpoopular?


How does the colorization look?  I remember a number of years ago they colorized Night of The Living Dead, and it wasn't well done, or reviewed.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 02, 2016, 01:00:35 PM
Do you pop out at parties?  Are you unpoopular?

The answer is in this bittle lottle.

 :D

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How does the colorization look?  I remember a number of years ago they colorized Night of The Living Dead, and it wasn't well done, or reviewed.

The episodes I've seen looked fine to me.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 02, 2016, 01:21:09 PM

When colorization first started in the 80's we didn't even have home computers, cell phones, CGI effects in films etc.  So, as time goes on it looks better and better. It depends on when something was colorized for one thing.  Also, people who don't like "colorization" have an eye to look for what's wrong with it, so it also depends on who you talk to.

I suppose it's because I grew up in the 60's when we did not have a color TV and so many things I saw in black and white were fascinating to me to watch on TV in color later on. So I just think of it as a way to see something I like in a different way, and, yes, I like to watch movies I've never seen before in the original way they were filmed. I've also said I have watched some movies I love, like BBM, in black and white for a different experience.

I guess it comes down to one's own tastes.  For hardline anti-colorization folks, though, they need to let it go! Heh!


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on December 02, 2016, 01:37:47 PM
It's not like colorization destroys the original B/W.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 03, 2016, 09:23:26 AM
Yay! Today's episode of Wagon Train is "The Madame Elizabeth McQueenie" story, from Season 3, one of Bette Davis' two appearances.  Robert Strauss is in the cast, too. :)

The Daniel Boone episode was also one of my favorites, from Season 2: "The Peace Tree." the story concerns a colony of hard-headed Scotsmen (are there any other kind?) who want to settle right in the middle of an important Cherokee hunting area. Three little boys, Israel Boone, the son of the Cherokee chief, and a little Scots boy, try to make "peace medicine" to prevent war.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 06, 2016, 08:54:35 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/a2/03/fe/a203fee5962e9dfb8e2362808f9d5cee.jpg)


Just click this and you can make it big..
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 06, 2016, 08:56:55 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/c6/66/81/c66681c57022d093b4254029b7927fb3.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 06, 2016, 08:58:13 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/6c/a4/65/6ca465148a454c4d31afb445232593c0.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 06, 2016, 08:58:58 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/d3/82/00/d382008dcdda645ec8cbcdf95378c746.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 06, 2016, 09:01:34 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/0e/77/35/0e7735f8ce83cc9b2866a1dd8b8158fc.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 06, 2016, 09:03:35 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/e6/8a/0a/e68a0adeb886e96ea4dfa8f1a55e72e3.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 06, 2016, 09:04:58 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/26/21/cc/2621ccb25b6f509dfb37527ab3831779.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 06, 2016, 09:32:26 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/0e/77/35/0e7735f8ce83cc9b2866a1dd8b8158fc.jpg)

And Little Ricky got a genuine Lionel electric train set!  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 06, 2016, 02:29:55 PM
And his bike looks pretty spiffy too!  :laugh:  And I think my sister had that monkey!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 06, 2016, 04:20:23 PM
You know, I've seen that episode a couple of times now, and I've wondered if that's the way they really handled Christmas trees in New York City in the Fifties. Fred buys it on Christmas Eve, and it's just nailed to pieces of wood to create a stand--nothing to supply it with water.

Unlike the Ricardos, by the time I came along, we didn't have lights where the entire string went out if one bulb burned out. That kind of light was still around in my early childhood--our next-door neighbors had lights like that, and you could still buy replacement bulbs for lights like that--but we had the kind where if one burned out, the rest of the string stayed lighted. The little tiny "twinkle lights" had not yet come in, though.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 07, 2016, 09:04:53 AM
I actually don't remember ever having anything but an artificial tree and my husband doesn't remember having anything but a real one.

And his real ones were always in the water and stayed up for weeks.

I got nostalgic a few years back and went to the big multi coloured bulbs, but then switched back to the small white ones the very next year.



Hey where is Lyle, didn't we post some Christmas pics last year from all the old shows?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 07, 2016, 09:29:20 AM
I actually don't remember ever having anything but an artificial tree and my husband doesn't remember having anything but a real one.

And his real ones were always in the water and stayed up for weeks.

I got nostalgic a few years back and went to the big multi coloured bulbs, but then switched back to the small white ones the very next year.

When I was a very small boy, we had live trees, and they were mounted in stands with basins for water. We also kept the tree up for several weeks. Eventually, while I was still pretty young, we had to switch to an artificial tree because my mother, who didn't work outside the home in those days, apparently was allergic to the trees; she'd lose her voice, get short of breath, and generally get pretty sick. She ceased having those symptoms when we stopped having a "natural" Christmas tree.

I'm sure it was nice to have that nostalgic year with the older-style lights.  :)

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Hey where is Lyle, didn't we post some Christmas pics last year from all the old shows?

Yes, wasn't there a string of pics of Christmas episodes?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 07, 2016, 01:07:44 PM
Yes, wasn't there a string of pics of Christmas episodes?

Since you mentioned it, I was looking at some the other day, so here's a few:


The Dick Van Dyke SHow

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-a6v8P5XfYY8/VkKJAtsPl5I/AAAAAAAAc3A/5ctztDqJiO4/s1600/el%2Bshow%2Bde%2BDick%2BVan%2BDykeMary_Tyler_Moore_Dick_VanDyke_Show_1964.JPG)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 07, 2016, 01:12:04 PM

The Flying Nun

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7572/16151518479_91fed665d9_b.jpg)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 07, 2016, 01:12:26 PM

The Flying Nun

(https://lettyrydell.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/theyflyingnun2.jpg)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 07, 2016, 01:12:43 PM

The Flying Nun

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dQslO1MNlFQ/U2p5CqVU7-I/AAAAAAAAKCc/FsusNPbuqpU/s1600/Screen+Shot+2014-05-07+at+12.25.48+PM.png)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 07, 2016, 01:46:50 PM

That Girl!

(http://imagecache5d.allposters.com/watermarker/70-7055-VZYL100Z.jpg)


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 07, 2016, 01:47:29 PM


The Munsters

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/51/03/a3/5103a3cd76c68d9f50763da668cd3f6b.jpg)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 07, 2016, 01:48:06 PM

The Mary Tyler Moore Show

(http://i.imgur.com/SI2sqZL.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 07, 2016, 01:48:57 PM

The Thin Man

(http://67.media.tumblr.com/632415b74b0f66f94f793703113af58b/tumblr_mfijkqE5G51runk2uo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 07, 2016, 01:49:29 PM

Gunsmoke

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/9f/f9/1f/9ff91f749a082ef4cdd64e3930594e36.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 07, 2016, 01:49:59 PM

Bonanza

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/fe/12/31/fe12317928ec31f42655289d587ca141.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 07, 2016, 01:50:35 PM

Hazel

(http://www.tvsinopse.kinghost.net/h/hazel_arquivos/tvsinopse4591014.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 07, 2016, 01:51:01 PM

The Man from U.N.C.L.E.

(http://pzrservices.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451ccbc69e201b8d08b626b970c-600wi)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 07, 2016, 01:51:32 PM

Green Acres

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/66/92/26/669226fee5af63cc5ae5bcefaac5604e.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 07, 2016, 01:51:56 PM

Get Smart

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d6/dd/42/d6dd422b73ec74a434bb926a6bf09a79.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 07, 2016, 01:52:24 PM

Dennis the Menace

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Dennis_the_Menace_Jay_North_1960_No_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 07, 2016, 01:53:12 PM


Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In

(http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/11/00/24/2360637/7/920x920.jpg)


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 07, 2016, 01:53:31 PM

Mister Ed

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/eb/cb/c6/ebcbc632a2f0e91624c5bce24aa01351.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 07, 2016, 02:00:21 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/19/31/e6/1931e684af32ed809cad3f7e3bd6f254.jpg)


THANKS LYLE!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 07, 2016, 02:02:16 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/e8/55/dc/e855dc5b5e4fca9b495855581a5bcc1d.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 07, 2016, 02:03:42 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/92/3d/29/923d2927ce0a7e88340b5e89774f6de3.jpg)


Anyone remember this??
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 07, 2016, 02:04:55 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/b0/0e/29/b00e295b7db021ce37e0e4473ddd7db9.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 07, 2016, 02:05:44 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/5f/1c/ed/5f1ced26130aee6b29cceba10a9aaf9a.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 07, 2016, 02:08:41 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/ec/14/6f/ec146f617b93f71f98bb27f49639ac2c.jpg)


Liked this special alot, but preferred the regular series TV family..
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 07, 2016, 02:12:30 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/31/bb/f7/31bbf74e564c2ef39d6da5357d82e9b6.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 07, 2016, 02:15:34 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/c6/c6/cf/c6c6cf239c2c7fc7035d3cbcc0120260.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 07, 2016, 02:16:18 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/92/3d/29/923d2927ce0a7e88340b5e89774f6de3.jpg)


Anyone remember this??

No, but I remember reading Bowie only did this as a favor to his mother.  ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 07, 2016, 02:17:31 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/bc/cb/40/bccb407e9e826f237632b99e52da5042.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 07, 2016, 02:18:07 PM
No, but I remember reading Bowie only did this as a favor to his mother.  ;)

Oh you must go find it on youtube, it's beautiful!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 07, 2016, 02:18:15 PM
Since you mentioned it, I was looking at some the other day, so here's a few:


The Dick Van Dyke SHow

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-a6v8P5XfYY8/VkKJAtsPl5I/AAAAAAAAc3A/5ctztDqJiO4/s1600/el%2Bshow%2Bde%2BDick%2BVan%2BDykeMary_Tyler_Moore_Dick_VanDyke_Show_1964.JPG)

Didn't I see a commercial yesterday advertising broadcast of some colorized Van Dyke Show episodes?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 07, 2016, 02:22:48 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/e8/55/dc/e855dc5b5e4fca9b495855581a5bcc1d.jpg)

Love this! The Flintstones, the Rubbles, the Jetsons--and Yogi and Boo-boo!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 07, 2016, 02:23:59 PM
Thanks, Lyle and Pepe!  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 07, 2016, 02:24:09 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/cc/85/75/cc8575a8c14a39f0581007a1d4d1791b.jpg)

MTM  WOW, how knew!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 07, 2016, 02:31:02 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/03/ae/f6/03aef6da45fc7cfcaec396f43419947c.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 07, 2016, 02:31:56 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/2b/c4/99/2bc499a54c426a1e017540adc7f6a8cb.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 07, 2016, 02:35:22 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/77/a9/cd/77a9cdbbb8a6eda97ee3a82e818e20d4.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 07, 2016, 02:40:55 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/c5/fc/40/c5fc40b86c1b3dc26145674abe680d1c.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 07, 2016, 03:00:08 PM
Hey where is Lyle, didn't we post some Christmas pics last year from all the old shows?


I just went through this whole thread, there are a few pics scattered here and there, but no series of holiday pics from TV shows.  I know for a while Lyle was posting a lot of these pics in the Fan Fair thread, that may be what you're thinking of.

However, those pics would be on topic here as well,  so there's no reason to stop positing them here.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 07, 2016, 08:03:12 PM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/c5/fc/40/c5fc40b86c1b3dc26145674abe680d1c.jpg)

Oh, my gosh, look at that Charlie Brown tree behind Lucy!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 08, 2016, 09:20:41 AM
Didn't I see a commercial yesterday advertising broadcast of some colorized Van Dyke Show episodes?

Do you know if they were to be for sale or airing on some channel?  That would be "verrry interesting!"
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 08, 2016, 09:49:46 AM

I looked it up and, yes, CBS is airing two colorized episodes this coming Sunday at 8 p.m., after 60 Minutes.

Here's a link showing the opening credits in color.

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/video/p2p-92074729/

The two episodes they've chosen to colorize are two of my favorites as well!
I think it's great that Dick Van Dyke and Mary Tyler Moore are still around, too,
after all these so many years!


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Laura:  "I wonder what this 'I Love Lucy' show would look like in color?"

Richie: "I want to watch 'Mister Ed' in color."

Rob: "I wonder why in the youtube video link above, the red chair behind us is olive green and not red?



Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 08, 2016, 11:42:12 AM
Oh, my gosh, look at that Charlie Brown tree behind Lucy!

It is pretty sad.   :laugh:   I actually forget how much I loved The Lucy Show and Here's Lucy.. and yet when I think of her I automatically think of I Love Lucy!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 08, 2016, 11:48:16 AM
Thanks for the heads up Lyle.


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Laura:  Rob how many times are we going to watch Brokeback Mountain and should Richie be watching it?  Rob, Rob, ohhhhh Rob!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 08, 2016, 12:12:24 PM
It is pretty sad.   :laugh:   I actually forget how much I loved The Lucy Show and Here's Lucy.. and yet when I think of her I automatically think of I Love Lucy!

Don't we all?  :D

Ohhhhh Rob!

How many times in the run of the show did Mary Tyler Moore say that?  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 10, 2016, 07:54:18 PM
I think I missed the network broadcast of A Charlie Brown Christmas. I'll have to make time to watch it on DVD.

I don't care how old I am or how old I get, it won't be Christmas without A Charlie Brown Christmas.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 10, 2016, 08:28:15 PM
I just got done watching Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer and two Frosty cartoons.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 10, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
I think I missed the network broadcast of A Charlie Brown Christmas. I'll have to make time to watch it on DVD.

I don't care how old I am or how old I get, it won't be Christmas without A Charlie Brown Christmas.

It came on last Wednesday night. I recorded it for Lilia.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 10, 2016, 11:41:46 PM
I just got done watching Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer and two Frosty cartoons.

I watched those tonight as well. :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 11, 2016, 12:52:10 AM
I just got done watching Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer and two Frosty cartoons.

I watched those tonight as well. :D

I think I missed the network broadcast of A Charlie Brown Christmas. I'll have to make time to watch it on DVD.

I don't care how old I am or how old I get, it won't be Christmas without A Charlie Brown Christmas.

It came on last Wednesday night. I recorded it for Lilia.

Phooey. I guess that's how I missed A Charlie Brown Christmas. My condo association's annual meeting was Wednesday evening.  >:(

I saw Rudolph earlier this season. The Frosty cartoons never did much for me.

It also isn't Christmas without the original How the Grinch Stole Christmas.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: morrobay on December 11, 2016, 09:44:14 AM
I missed it on 12/1 as well, they are rebroadcasting on 12/22

December 1, 2016
© 1965 United Feature Syndicate Inc. In 2016, A Charlie Brown Christmas will air Thursday, Dec. 1, at 8pm ET on ABC and Thursday, Dec. 22, at 8pm ET on ABC.

But if you can't wait...

http://abc.go.com/movies-and-specials/a-charlie-brown-christmas (http://abc.go.com/movies-and-specials/a-charlie-brown-christmas)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 11, 2016, 11:23:13 AM
I missed it on 12/1 as well, they are rebroadcasting on 12/22

December 1, 2016
© 1965 United Feature Syndicate Inc. In 2016, A Charlie Brown Christmas will air Thursday, Dec. 1, at 8pm ET on ABC and Thursday, Dec. 22, at 8pm ET on ABC.

But if you can't wait...

http://abc.go.com/movies-and-specials/a-charlie-brown-christmas (http://abc.go.com/movies-and-specials/a-charlie-brown-christmas)

Thanks for the heads-up!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 11, 2016, 11:54:10 AM
Thanks for the heads-up!

Jeff, mark the calendar!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 11, 2016, 08:51:17 PM
I missed the first half hour of the one-hour, two-colorized episodes of the Dick Van Dyke Show. OTOH, the second episode was one I'd only heard about but never seen, the one where Laura reveals on national TV that Rob's boss, Alan Brady (Carl Reiner) is bald.  ;D

I don't know when this episode was broadcast--I imagine research could find it--but in the scene where Laura goes to Alan Brady's office to apologize, I thought the suit and hat Mary Tyler Moore was wearing was creepily reminiscent of the suit Jacqueline Kennedy was wearing on that terrible day in Dallas. Maybe MTM's was just darker in color, or maybe that was the colorization, but it sure reminded me of Jackie Kennedy's suit.

Amusing to note that Laura was still wearing gloves, like a proper lady. ...  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 12, 2016, 08:09:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGEOjxtQtWc


Here is a little bit!   And you are right she does look at bit like Jackie..
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 12, 2016, 02:41:16 PM
Here is a little bit!   And you are right she does look at bit like Jackie..

Well, Jackie was a style-setter.

After The Dick Van Dyke Show, I watched my DVD of A Charlie Brown Christmas. One thing that has puzzled me: If Lucy has such a low opinion of Charlie Brown (Linus says she says that of all the Charlie Browns in the world, he's the Charlie Brown-iest), why does she pick him to direct the Christmas play?  :D

Now I have to find time to watch A Christmas Carol--and maybe A Charlie Brown Christmas again.

BTW, early Sunday evening I attended a jazz Christmas concert at my church. A woman who is a church member teaches voice at our University of the Arts and performs professionally as a jazz singer (she's quite good). Every Christmas season, she and her quartet of musicians put on a concert to benefit the church. Anyway, one of the numbers she sang last night was Christmas Time is Here, by Vince Guaraldi, from the soundtrack of A Charlie Brown Christmas. I thought that was cool.  :) (Yeah, I love the Guaraldi soundtrack to ACBC.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 16, 2016, 11:42:22 AM
"Calling Dr. Bombay, calling Dr. Bombay!
Emergency! Emergency!
Come right away!"

Over lunch today, I learned from my Friday morning newspaper that Bernard Fox, who played Dr. Bombay on Bewitched! and appeared in a slew of other now-classic TV shows, passed away Wednesday, Dec. 14, at age 89.

According to the obit, he appeared in not one, but two, movies about the Titanic disaster: As a sailor in the 1958 film A Night to Remember, and in the 1997 Titanic.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Sara B on December 17, 2016, 05:18:24 AM
I saw the Christmas special of Vicious last night. I thought so-so - as the series as a whole. That Ash is somehow rather creepy, and his successor (what was the point?) a bit similar.

But some funny parts, more tenderness overall allowed, and the sweet ending pleased my sentimental soul.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 19, 2016, 09:16:25 AM
Saturday morning's episode of Daniel Boone on MeTV was called "The First Beau," and it concerned Jemima Boone falling in love for the first time. The young man who was the object of her affection was played by--Fabian!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on December 19, 2016, 11:19:42 AM
Sally Brown's reaction to having missed Halloween (because she was sitting in the pumpkin patch with Linus) has always resonated with me because I had chickenpox in October the year I was in first grade, and I almost missed Halloween that year.  :(



Yeah, that scene is funny.  " Halloween's over and I missed it! You blockhead, you kept me up all night waiting up for the Great Pumpkin and all that came was a beagle.  What a fool I was, I could of have candy apples, gum money, cookies and all sorts of things, but I missed it by sitting in a pumpkin patch with a blockhead. You owe me restitution!" - Sally Brown, from "It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown!"  The quote isn't exactly correct, but that is basically what she says.



Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 19, 2016, 05:23:37 PM
my fave scene is when Sally is cutting the eyes out of a sheet for her ghost outfit, and then holds the sheet up, gets scared and screams.   LOL
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 22, 2016, 12:46:05 PM

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 22, 2016, 02:02:00 PM
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Thanks, Lyle. I've seen that picture before. What would you call it? A publicity still? It's not from a scene in any actual episode of Daniel Boone. However, there was a "Christmas episode" in Season 2, and I won't be surprised at all if Me-TV runs that episode this Saturday morning, even if it's out of sequence.

Season 2 also featured a "Thanksgiving episode" (featuring John McIntire as Rebecca Boone's father), which Me-TV ran the Saturday before Thanksgiving this year.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 23, 2016, 09:48:13 AM

Decades channel is running a Christmas episode of Wagon Train this weekend. (The Mary Ellen Thomas Story.)
In fact, that channel is only showing Christmas episodes of all kinds of shows for two days.  Sitcoms,
westerns, police and detective shows and multiple episodes of some of them if there was more than one
There's a list, but not alphabetical:

DOBIE GILLIS
OUR MISS BROOKS
THE PATTY DUKE SHOW
FAMILY AFFAIR
THE LUCY SHOW
THE DORIS DAY SHOW
THE BOB NEWHART SHOW
ROWAN & MARTIN'S LAUGH-IN
SQUARE PEGS
THE PRETENDER
J.A.G.
THE ROOKIES
POLICE WOMAN
T.J. HOOKER
McCLOUD
GET SMART
77 SUNSET STRIP
THE UNTOUCHABLES
THE MOD SQUAD
LOVE, AMERICAN STYLE
DR. QUINN, MEDICINE WOMAN
TOUCHED BY AN ANGEL
EARLY EDITION
WISEGUY
VEGA$
THE LOVE BOAT
PETTICOAT JUNCTION
THE TWILIGHT ZONE
THE WHITE SHADOW
MOVIN' ON
WAGON TRAIN
THE LORETTA YOUNG SHOW


I looked up Me-TV's schedule, Jeff:

Saturday

10:00AM
DANIEL BOONE
The Christmas Story

11:00AM
WAGON TRAIN
The St. Nicholas Story

12:00PM
THE BIG VALLEY
Judgement In Heaven

1:00PM
GUNSMOKE
P.S. Murry Christmas


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 23, 2016, 10:26:29 AM


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As the years go on, I always have liked this particular episode of Happy Days, this holiday episode,
because of the anomaly of Chuck Cunningham.  He's Richie's older brother who was never seen again,
nor mentioned, after this episode, which aired in Dec. of 1974.

That's him helping Dad decorate the tree above, being shy, I guess. There's even a stocking for him!

It's one of those things that can set one's mind to ponder the possibilities.  Chuck was never seen much in
the series anyway. Not only that, he was played by three different actors when he had appeared. One in the
pilot, another in the first season, which had started in January and was filmed, not videotaped, and then by
the guy above in the second season.

Of course, it wasn't until years later when most people realized, hey, what happened to Chuck Cunningham?
Wasn't there an older brother?  And this holiday episode brings up the mystery every year now.  The story
about what happened to him that I like the best is that at Christmas dinner that year he told everyone he
was gay and was banished from the Cunningham household, or he was treated so badly (by the Cunninghams?)
that he ran away. That would've been a distinct possibility in the 1950's world of Happy Days.  As Lily Tomlin
used to say in her show, "In the 1950's there were no gay people, only shy ones."

So, here's to Chuck Cunningham, wherever he may be!

Let's see your face, Charles!

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 23, 2016, 10:39:16 AM

I enjoyed Happy Days while it was on, but it sure doesn't hold up well, in my opinion.  The first
season was the best, when it was filmed and the live audience hadn't taken over the laugh track.
Garry Marshall has always had a knack for finding the things audiences want to see.  His movies
have always touched the right pulse of the audience, but his execution was always quite mediocre.
He wrote some of the worst episodes of The Lucy Show in the 1960's.  In my opinion, none of his
series were great. Though they start out fine, he always had a knack of pushing the wrong boundaries,
like over-playing Lenny & Squiggy in Laverne & Shirley. He is responsible for the term "Jump the Shark"
after all, the term used when you know a series has overstayed it's welcome and should be cancelled.
His movies even often jump the shark before they are finished! But his knack for premises and appealing
characters was quite genius. He was also an amusing character actor in many series, most notably the
network executive in Murphy Brown.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 23, 2016, 11:06:59 AM

I was looking up Antenna-TV to see something and saw that their new schedule that will
be starting soon has these previously unscheduled shows appearing on the channel.

Remember or wish to revisit any of these?

Alice
Becker
Good Morning World
Growing Pains
Head of the Class
The Hogan Family
It's About Time
The Joey Bishop Show
My Two Dads
Murphy Brown
My Mother the Car
227
What's Happening
Wings


Has the Joey Bishop Show ever been on since the 1960's?  I remember watching it as a kid,
but what it would be like now is a mystery?  I don't even remember what the premise of the
show was, but I remember I always liked Abby Dalton on it.

I saw a taping of What's Happening once!  My Mother the Car has become the poster child for
being one of the worst TV series ever. It's About Time had a very catchy theme song I recall.
It was a Sherwood Schwartz series and it aired one season in 1966-67, the last year that
Gilligan's Island was on.  I remember reading once that Sherwood Schwartz came up with
that show because he wanted something that could also be filmed on the Gilligan's Island
sets. LOL!  It's about two astronauts who break the time barrier and land back in caveman
days. About 2/3 of the way into the season they realized the show was probably going to be
cancelled, so they reversed the premise and for the last third of the series they brought the
cave people back to the present with the astronauts.

I used to watch Growing Pains, but Kirk Cameron's religious right anti-gay attitudes have pretty
much ruined any thought of watching it again.  I'd see him and get turned off thinking about that.
Leonardo DiCaprio got one of his first acting jobs in that series in several episodes. I'd like to see that,
perhaps. Some of the others I didn't really watch when first on, like Head of the Class. It seemed like
an 80's Welcome Back Kotter, which doesn't hold up, either.

Wings is a favorite, however. I have the whole series on dvd.  I might check out Murphy Brown here and
there. For a show that was a hit, when they tried to rerun it later on or bring it out on video, it seemed
there was no interest, so you wonder why? It has one of my favorite sitcom episodes ever, because I felt
the premise was really clever.  Murphy has been banned from the White House press room for awhile because
of a shouting match, or something, that occurred.  For some reason she either sneaks in or is invited once to
see if she can behave..some reason...but to make matters worse for her, when she returns to the newsroom
she finds out that "Socks" the cat had crawled into her purse and she's absconded with it and she wants to try
and get it back without anyone knowing, fearing everyone will think she was peeved and stole it.  Something
like that.  I thought that was a great, and different, idea.

 




Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on December 23, 2016, 12:35:27 PM
I was looking up Antenna-TV to see something and saw that their new schedule that will
be starting soon has these previously unscheduled shows appearing on the channel.

Remember or wish to revisit any of these?

Alice
Becker
Good Morning World
Growing Pains
Head of the Class
The Hogan Family
It's About Time
The Joey Bishop Show
My Two Dads
Murphy Brown
My Mother the Car
227
What's Happening
Wings



I used to watch Growing Pains, but Kirk Cameron's religious right anti-gay attitudes have pretty
much ruined any thought of watching it again.  I'd see him and get turned off thinking about that.
Leonardo DiCaprio got one of his first acting jobs in that series in several episodes. I'd like to see that,
perhaps.



I was going to say Growing Pains is about the only one on that list I would like to revisit.  In light of Allan Thicks death.


Leo was a regular on the show, appearing in dozens of episodes.  He had some nice things to say about Allan when he died and apparently attending his memorial service.


I like Kirk and actually don't remember his gay rants.  Other than I do seem to remember (when asked) if he supported gay marriage and I think he said he didn't, but has many gay friends who know his views and they are fine with them.

I do think he is a kind and loving person, just is very religious and believes what he believes..


Anyway would love to revisit it, the theme song has been stuck in my head for days.


And I did love the Cunningham's, loved that house, loved the whole cast...  I am laughing at Chuck Cunningham,  a lot of shows seemed to have a brother or a sister that was rarely seen or talked about!


Funny I watched Aliens the other night and was saying to myself, what ever happened to Paul Reiser?  I was thinking Mad About You, but My Two Dad's, liked that one too.





Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 23, 2016, 05:50:46 PM
Oh, I remember having a big of a crush on Greg Evigan on My Two Dads.


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 28, 2016, 02:22:45 PM
Decades channel is running a Christmas episode of Wagon Train this weekend. (The Mary Ellen Thomas Story.)

That episode showed up not too long ago in the regular rotation, and Mary Ellen Thomas was played by "The Bad Seed" herself, Patty McCormack.

Quote
I looked up Me-TV's schedule, Jeff:

Saturday

10:00AM
DANIEL BOONE
The Christmas Story

11:00AM
WAGON TRAIN
The St. Nicholas Story

Dad and I watched both of them. I figured Daniel Boone would be "The Christmas Story." I had never seen "The St. Nicholas Story" on Wagon Train before--reminds me, I wanted to look up some of the cast. I thought I recognized Henry Brandon playing an Indian chief--as usual--and I was correct. I also recognized Eddie Little Sky.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 28, 2016, 02:27:21 PM
Has the Joey Bishop Show ever been on since the 1960's?  I remember watching it as a kid,
but what it would be like now is a mystery?  I don't even remember what the premise of the
show was, but I remember I always liked Abby Dalton on it.

Same here. And there was a janitor/handyman character who couldn't pronounce "cinnamon."

Quote
My Mother the Car has become the poster child for
being one of the worst TV series ever.

Dear God, someone is bringing that back? It wasn't quite as bad as Me and the Chimp. ...

Quote
It's About Time had a very catchy theme song I recall.
It was a Sherwood Schwartz series and it aired one season in 1966-67, the last year that
Gilligan's Island was on.  I remember reading once that Sherwood Schwartz came up with
that show because he wanted something that could also be filmed on the Gilligan's Island
sets. LOL!  It's about two astronauts who break the time barrier and land back in caveman
days. About 2/3 of the way into the season they realized the show was probably going to be
cancelled, so they reversed the premise and for the last third of the series they brought the
cave people back to the present with the astronauts.

I remember that, too. The tune was catchy. Wasn't Imogen Coca in it, as one of the cave people? Frank Aletter was one of the astronauts.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 31, 2016, 12:31:25 PM
Where (when?) would you go to ring in a year?

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Happy New Year, everyone!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 31, 2016, 12:42:42 PM
that's a tough question!!!   
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 31, 2016, 03:38:30 PM
HAPPY NEW YEAR, LYLE!!!

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 31, 2016, 03:46:26 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 31, 2016, 06:04:42 PM
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Why does Batman look so cranky?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 31, 2016, 06:40:13 PM
Batman is always cranky!!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 01, 2017, 01:37:05 AM
I was at a party, and joking the year was almost over, everyone was safe, and then someone entered the room and gave us the news that William Christopher had died. 2016 got one last lick in. Fr. Mulcahy was my favorite MASH character, the calm and compassion during the storm.

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William Christopher, Father Mulcahy on 'MASH,' dies at 84

Cindy Carcamo  Contact Reporter

William Christopher, the actor who played mild-mannered Father Francis Mulcahy on the hit television series “MASH”, died Saturday at age 84.

Christopher died in his Pasadena home from non-lung small cell carcinoma, his eldest son John Christopher told the Times.  The actor played the role of Father Mulcahy from 1972 to 1983 and in the follow-up series “After MASH” from 1983 to 1985.

http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-william-christopher-20161231-story.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: morrobay on January 01, 2017, 11:00:37 AM
There's a Twilight Zone marathon on SyFy, I'm not sure when it started...this one is on noon central...

Episode: The Arrival
S03, E02
(First Aired: Sep. 22, 1961)
Flight 107 arrives on schedule, but without passengers, pilots, or baggage.

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on January 01, 2017, 12:03:39 PM
I was at a party, and joking the year was almost over, everyone was safe, and then someone entered the room and gave us the news that William Christopher had died. 2016 got one last lick in. Fr. Mulcahy was my favorite MASH character, the calm and compassion during the storm.

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William Christopher, Father Mulcahy on 'MASH,' dies at 84

Cindy Carcamo  Contact Reporter

William Christopher, the actor who played mild-mannered Father Francis Mulcahy on the hit television series “MASH”, died Saturday at age 84.



That is sad news, I had not heard that, I too was at a party and now sure how that one slipped by us all.   I think he was my favourite on M*A*S*H a well..   


    His pals from #MASH miss Bill powerfully. His kind strength, his grace and gentle humor weren't acted. They were Bill. ❤️#WilliamChristopher
    — Alan Alda (@alanalda) January 1, 2017


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 01, 2017, 02:53:47 PM
There's a Twilight Zone marathon on SyFy,

How cool! That whole series was surely some of the most imaginative TV ever!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on January 01, 2017, 04:58:49 PM
I love "Twilight Zone", but really liked "The Outer Limits" as well. It only aired 3 seasons 1963-65
Think of "Twilight Zone", skewed 45° weirder.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 01, 2017, 05:46:55 PM
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William Christopher, Father Mulcahy on 'MASH,' dies at 84

Cindy Carcamo  Contact Reporter

William Christopher, the actor who played mild-mannered Father Francis Mulcahy on the hit television series “MASH”, died Saturday at age 84.

Christopher died in his Pasadena home from non-lung small cell carcinoma, his eldest son John Christopher told the Times.  The actor played the role of Father Mulcahy from 1972 to 1983 and in the follow-up series “After MASH” from 1983 to 1985.

http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-william-christopher-20161231-story.html

This woman is actually writing for a print newspaper? And what sort of idiot is editing her copy? It's not "non-lung small cell carcinoma." It's non-small cell lung carcinoma.

Sheesh. ...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 01, 2017, 08:37:26 PM
There's a Twilight Zone marathon on SyFy, I'm not sure when it started...this one is on noon central...

Thanks so much for posting this! There wasn't anything else on anywhere else that interested me, but I just three classic episodes, with William Shatner, David Wayne, and Agnes Moorhead, that I've always heard about but never seen before.  :)

(I came in near the end of one episode with a lot of familiar faces from '60s and '70s TV, like Jack Weston and Claude Akins. And then there was one with Lloyd Bochner.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 02, 2017, 10:11:14 AM
OK, I got hooked. Here I sit on my holiday watching episode after episode of The Twilight Zone!  :laugh:

It's so wonderful to see so many faces from out of the past in these episodes. The one running right now has "Larry Tate" from Bewitched! before he was Larry Tate from Bewitched! And also Veronica Cartwright as a little girl.

The episode is called "I Sing the Body Electric," a quote from Walt Whitman, I believe, and I happened to catch the writing credit: None other than Ray Bradbury!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on January 02, 2017, 12:22:30 PM
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I am afraid the only "classics" on my TV right now are the Winter Classic hockey games!  :laugh:


Neat article:


While it seems as if half of America is crammed into Times Square every December 31, the fact is the crowd represents a teeny, tiny fraction of the population. Most of us watch the New Year arrive on television. It's a tradition nearly as old as the medium itself.

To many, Dick Clark is the first name that comes to mind when discussing the broadcast history of the holiday. However, not only were there other icons before him, Clark was not even the first host of his own New Year's Rockin' Eve.

As another new year arrives, we thought we'd take a flip through the channels of the past and remember the many TV hosts of New Year's Eve history.

With the advent of cable, the options proliferated greatly in the 1990s. We're going to stick with the classics, from the earliest days of broadcasting the ball drop to the dawn of the 1980s.

Which host did your family watch? Who was your favorite?


http://www.metv.com/lists/do-you-remember-these-new-years-eve-hosts-from-tv-past
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 14, 2017, 04:23:53 PM
I'm sure I've said before, one of the pleasures for me of watching Wagon Train is seeing actors I recognize from later TV series. Today's episode was a good example. Anybody else remember "Fred Ziffel" and "Hank Kimball"?  They were both in today's episode. ;D

I did not care for the end of today's episode. The beautiful Brandon de Wilde played a young boy with a true gift for playing the violin. However, his father was an army colonel, a former commander of Major Adams, who wanted his son to be a soldier. At the end of the episode, de Wilde smashed his violin and told his father that he wanted to be a soldier. I didn't care for that at all, but I told myself that perhaps that was a culturally appropriate conclusion for 1959, when the episode first aired.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on January 15, 2017, 08:51:56 AM
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I remember Brandon!  :-*   I have a friend who watches Wagon Train, just for the guest stars.

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Tony-nominated actor Dick Gautier, known for his role in Bye, Bye Birdie and the hit TV sitcom Get Smart, has reportedly died. He was 85.

Gautier’s daughter Denise told The Hollywood Reporter that her father died Friday night at an assisted living facility in Arcadia, California, after suffering from a longtime illness.

Gautier started his career working as a stand-up comic and he went on to star as Conrad Birdie in the hit 1960 musical Bye, Bye Birdie. His Elvis-inspired role scored him a Tony nomination for Best Featured Actor in a Musical.

Another beloved role of Gautier’s was his portrayal of Hymie the robot on the hit 1960s sitcom Get Smart. Portraying Hymie, Gautier quickly became a fan-favorite, despite his few appearances on the show...


http://people.com/tv/dick-gautier-get-smart-dead/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on January 15, 2017, 12:22:51 PM
A naively trusting public of the Fifties fell in love with television game shows. Some of the games were played for laughs and some for prizes and some for big money. Some survive today in contemporary form. The Price is Right wasn’t born with Bob Barker at the helm. It was Bill Cullen in 1956.

On Sunday nights everything came to stop while America watched The $64,000 Question. At their peak, there were 22 game shows on the air.

By 1958 no one was laughing. That naive trust had been replaced by a suspicious cynicism that is with us yet. Why? Because many of the shows were rigged. The “winners” Americans had rooted for had been supplied with the answers in advance.

The scandal prompted Congressional hearings. Although there were no laws prohibiting the “fixing” of game shows, both the networks and their sponsors acknowledged the public’s distaste and kept game shows off the air for quite some time.

Here are some original game shows:


http://fiftiesweb.com/tv/quizshow/



Also kind of a neat site all on the 1950's!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 15, 2017, 12:59:40 PM
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I remember Brandon!  :-*   I have a friend who watches Wagon Train, just for the guest stars.

I was talking about Brandon with friends last night. They didn't remember him, so somebody called up pics on his smart phone, and then I realized that I had forgotten that he was the little boy who didn't want Alan Ladd to leave in the movie Shane.

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Tony-nominated actor Dick Gautier, known for his role in Bye, Bye Birdie and the hit TV sitcom Get Smart, has reportedly died. He was 85.

Gautier’s daughter Denise told The Hollywood Reporter that her father died Friday night at an assisted living facility in Arcadia, California, after suffering from a longtime illness.

Gautier started his career working as a stand-up comic and he went on to star as Conrad Birdie in the hit 1960 musical Bye, Bye Birdie. His Elvis-inspired role scored him a Tony nomination for Best Featured Actor in a Musical.

Another beloved role of Gautier’s was his portrayal of Hymie the robot on the hit 1960s sitcom Get Smart. Portraying Hymie, Gautier quickly became a fan-favorite, despite his few appearances on the show...

http://people.com/tv/dick-gautier-get-smart-dead/

I'm sorry to hear about Dick Gautier. Another name from the past whom I haven't thought of in years. I often thought his portrayals were, hmm, a bit much, but I'm sorry to hear of his passing.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 15, 2017, 01:00:32 PM
A naively trusting public of the Fifties fell in love with television game shows. Some of the games were played for laughs and some for prizes and some for big money. Some survive today in contemporary form. The Price is Right wasn’t born with Bob Barker at the helm. It was Bill Cullen in 1956.

On Sunday nights everything came to stop while America watched The $64,000 Question. At their peak, there were 22 game shows on the air.

By 1958 no one was laughing. That naive trust had been replaced by a suspicious cynicism that is with us yet. Why? Because many of the shows were rigged. The “winners” Americans had rooted for had been supplied with the answers in advance.

The scandal prompted Congressional hearings. Although there were no laws prohibiting the “fixing” of game shows, both the networks and their sponsors acknowledged the public’s distaste and kept game shows off the air for quite some time.

Here are some original game shows:

http://fiftiesweb.com/tv/quizshow/

Also kind of a neat site all on the 1950's!

I remember Bill Cullen.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 15, 2017, 01:19:08 PM

Not from the fifties, but the BUZZR channel is showing vintage game shows and
Bill Cullen hosts two of the ones they're showing Blockbusters and Child's Play.
I also saw Dick Gautier and Bill Cullen both together on a week's worth of
Bert Convey's game show Tattletales.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 15, 2017, 01:23:40 PM

I was looking at a list of shows Bill Cullen hosted. THere's a whole slew of them.
One I liked was short lived game show called EYE GUESS, because it was something
like an early version of mad libs.  It really only worked though with contestants who
weren't good at memorizing!

But look at the titles of these game show pilots that Bill Cullen did that were never sold.
There are some interesting titles!

"Quick as a Flash"
"The Choice is Yours"
"Says Who"
"Caught in the Act"
"How Do You Like Your Eggs?"
"Decisions, Decisions"
"Punch Lines"
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on January 15, 2017, 01:24:42 PM
I don't remember Bill Cullen, but I certainly remember Bert Cony, I have a big crush on him!  :laugh:


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I am still laughing at Queen for a day!    That could be a Ru Paul production today..
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 15, 2017, 01:29:15 PM

Last night I caught two episodes of long unseen sitcoms on Antenna-TV.

The Joey Bishop Show and Good Morning, World.

The Joey Bishop episode had a cameo appearance by Jack Benny. The
plot involved Joey losing a suitcase with his initials on it, JB, although in
the series, which I didn't remember, his name is Joey Barnes.

Good Morning, World had a lot going for it, but the comedy of it just never takes
off, it's always just going down the runway. It was most notable for Goldie Hawn
appearing semi-regularly as a next door neighbor! This one season series aired
1967-68 and is probably out of print, but was released on dvd over a decade ago.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 15, 2017, 04:02:23 PM
Speaking of one-season sit-coms, does anybody else remember My World, And Welcome To It? William Windom starred. It was based on the writings and cartoons of James Thurber. I loved that show; it got me interested in Thurber. Windom did a one-man show of Thurber, and it came to the Fulton Opera House in my home town. One of my English teachers knew how much I loved Thurber, so she got me excused from class to go along to a matinee performance even though I wasn't in her class that semester!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on January 15, 2017, 04:27:30 PM
That was really nice of her, a lot of the real old shows, I don't remember..


Just saw this list:

Short-Lived and Easily Forgotten TV Series from the '70s


https://reelrundown.com/tv/70s-short-lived-tv-series


I actually wish I could check a few of those out! 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 16, 2017, 12:07:02 PM

Jeff, I do remember that show and it was critically acclaimed, winning an Emmy, but the ratings were
really poor.  Back then I remember not liking it at all. (Sorry!)  It may have been because the young
actress in it, Lisa Gerritsen, is someone I just did not cotton to.  She played Phyllis' daughter on the
Mary TYler Moore Show and I always disliked those episodes she appeared on. I have a friend who
agreed with me, in fact we watched the entire series of Mary Tyler More on dvd several years ago, but
we skipped all the episodes she was featured in.  Heh!

There was one episode of My World that I still remember for some reason, though. It was when the
Windom character put out an American flag on his porch during Christmas time and created a stir about
that.  I don't remember his reasons, but I remember the show and some of the images from it.  Years
later someone sent me a Christmas card of a small town street scene, people bustling to and fro, snow
falling, holiday decorations everywhere, and one of the houses over on the left side had an American
flag hanging from the porch and I immediately thought of that episode.  I kept that card!

Even though I didn't care for the show, I did watch it while it was on.  It was scheduled in that prime time
half hour from 7:30 to 8:00 on Monday nights right before Laugh-In!  (Back when prime time started at
7:30 instead of 8:00, before they instituted "family hour" where local stations were supposed to invest
kid-friendly programming.  Seems such a quaint idea now.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 16, 2017, 12:35:23 PM
Before I looked at that list of 70's short-lived TV shows, I expected to see some that
I remembered, but they weren't on that list! What I Was thinking of was:

Paper Moon
Apple Pie
Lotsa Luck
The San Pedro Beach Bums
We'll Get By
Turnabout
All's Fair

Heh, those weren't mentioned.  Many of those on the article list I don't ever remember hearing about.
Some of them, though, I watched.  I thought "Project U.F.O." was more popular.

When I first came to California, the very first taping of a sitcom that I saw in person is a show
on that list:  ANOTHER DAY, with David Groh, from Rhoda, and Joan Hackett!

You can watch some of those shows, believe it or not, Bubba!

If you get the retro channel GET-TV. they have started to occasionally show some episodes of
VAN DYKE & COMPANY.  In that article, this poorly written line made me laugh: "It is also of note
that fans of Andy Kaufman would have a regular occurring role on the show."

Hmmm...Andy Kaufman fans have a regular occurring role, lol!

The series I mentioned above, LOTSA LUCK, was put out on dvd at one time.

Also on DVD:

BEARCATS! (with Dennis Cole!)
GET CHRISTIE LOVE! (Just the tv-movie is on dvd.)
LOGAN'S RUN
GRADY

Not all short-lived series are bad, just like not all long running series are terribly good.
(Remember According to Jim, for example?)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on January 16, 2017, 03:11:42 PM
I wish I did get some of those retro stations, I don't, we are with another provider now.


Every time I look at all these old shows though, I go off googling, now I am off to google David Groh.



 8)


And remember how cute Dennis Cole was?   


Yea just think good shows that last a season and the Simpson's just hit season 28 or some crazy thing!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 16, 2017, 04:14:21 PM
I remember Bearcats! Dennis Cole was a hottie! And wasn't it Rod Taylor in the show with him? I seem to remember he was no slouch in the manly department.  ;D

Lyle, I wonder why you took such a dislike to Lisa Gerritsen. I know sometimes these things happen and we don't know why. I just remember not being particularly bothered by her either on My World or the Mary Tyler Moore show.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 18, 2017, 11:13:17 AM

I do not know, really, Jeff.

Yes, Dennis Cole!  He was in a lot of one season, or less, shows, but he did have a three season
success with Felony Squad.  I liked a show he was in called Bracken's World, which was about a
fictitious movie studio. It was in a terrible time slot and the lead in it, Eleanor Parker, quit after
sixteen episodes because she felt her character was really limited. I'd sure love to see that again
to see what it was like now.  "Bracken" was the head of the studio and you only heard his voice,
like Charlie in Charlie's Angels.  When Parker left they brought in Leslie Nielsen to play Bracken
and made Dennis Cole's "starlet" character his assistant. (What do you call a male version of
starlet?)  Anyway, it lasted into season two, but got cancelled after 41 episodes. Dennis Cole
was often referred to as a small screen Robert Redford. In the TV series Mad Men, Don Draper's
wife, Megan, auditions for a role in Bracken's World!

Yes, Robert Taylor was in Bearcats!, too. We have 14 episodes to watch if we want to get the dvd!
The wiki page has some interesting notes:

--The show was co-produced by Rodlor, Rod Taylor's production firm.

--The leads' character names were somewhat odd:  Hank Brackett and Johnny Reach (Brackett's World, heh!)

--It was set in 1914 and considered a western; its time period also allowed the use of props not usually seen in
typical westerns, including airplanes, a WWI tank, machine guns, and a number of period automobiles.

--Powderkeg was the name of the pilot and it aired in April of 1971 as a TV movie first. It was syndicated in the
1970's and frequently aired by local U.S. TV stations.  The 90 minute pilot is not included in the dvd release, but
it was the only episode of the series to be released as a VHS videotape years ago.  (So only 13 episodes on the
dvd.)

--Despite a large promotional campaign prior to its premiere and having a loyal fan base, it lost in the Nielsen
ratings to both The Flip Wilson Show on NBC and a more traditional Western, Alias Smith and Jones, on ABC,
and was cancelled midseason. (This marked the last time that two Westerns broadcast by major U.S. networks
have competed in the same time slot for viewers, marking a milestone in the decline of the Western series era
in U.S. network television programming.)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 18, 2017, 11:43:27 AM
--It was set in 1914 and considered a western; its time period also allowed the use of props not usually seen in
typical westerns, including airplanes, a WWI tank, machine guns, and a number of period automobiles.

Oh, yes, if I remember correctly, that's why it was called Bearcats, because the heroes drove a hot Stutz Bearcat automobile.

Thanks, Lyle. I don't recall knowing that the show had been released on video.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on January 25, 2017, 11:31:39 AM
Mary Tyler Moore is in grave condition at a Connecticut hospital ... TMZ has learned.

Sources close to the family tell us her condition is so grim family members are coming to the hospital to say goodbye. The TV icon's long battled diabetes, and she underwent brain surgery in 2011.

One source tells us Mary has been on a respirator for more than a week.

We're told Moore is suffering from a number of health problems and recently it has become critical.

Mary starred in "The Dick Van Dyke Show" and had an incredible run with "The Mary Tyler Moore Show."

Story developing ...  ???
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 25, 2017, 11:41:50 AM
Oh, dear.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 25, 2017, 12:31:25 PM
I believe her husband is a doctor...so I'm sure all the best is being done for her.
GET-TV just aired the special "Dick Van Dyke and the Other Woman," the other
woman being MTM.  It was first aired in the years between her two successful series.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on January 25, 2017, 01:01:08 PM
Mary Tyler Moore -- the television icon who charmed America with comedic brilliance and charisma on her hugely successful '70s show -- died in a Connecticut hospital ... TMZ has learned.

MTM's longtime rep, Mara Buxbaum, issued a statement to TMZ saying, "Today, beloved icon, Mary Tyler Moore, passed away at the age of 80 in the company of friends and her loving husband of over 33 years, Dr. S. Robert Levine."

"A groundbreaking actress, producer, and passionate advocate for the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation, Mary will be remembered as a fearless visionary who turned the world on with her smile."

We're told Mary had been on a respirator for more than a week.

Mary -- who battled diabetes and underwent brain surgery in 2011 -- became famous after starring on the "The Dick Van Dyke Show" from 1961 to 1966. She dazzled her way to 7 successful seasons on "The Mary Tyler Moore Show" from 1970 to 1977, decimating skeptics who viewed her show as destined to fail.

She earned an Oscar nomination for best actress after crushing it in the 1980 flick "Ordinary People."

The 7 time Emmy winner began her career modeling in a commercial for "Happy Hotpoint" as a tiny elf that danced on appliances.

Mary, who in 1986 was inducted into the Television Hall of Fame, starred in well over 10 films and wrote 2 memoirs. She married 3 times ... forming power couple status when she married TV exec Grant Tinker in 1962.

Her only son, Richard, from her first marriage to Richard Meeker, died from an accidental gunshot in 1980.

Mary was 80.

#RIP


 :( :( :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 25, 2017, 01:19:09 PM
Very, very, very sad news.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on January 25, 2017, 02:14:58 PM
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therealjimparsons Let there be no doubt, when all is said and done, this one gets my vote for best sit com ever made. #marytylermoore #marytylermooreshow


I like this.. :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
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I like this.. :)

I think that's the way many of us "of a certain age" will remember her.

R.I.P., Mary. We will always love you and never forget you.

(This isn't the place to be funny, I know, but I've always gotten a kick out of that woman in the background, the one with with the scarf and the coat with the fur collar. I think she looks like she's thinking, "What the heck is going on here?"  ;D )
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on January 26, 2017, 09:19:53 AM
No I am glad you are commenting at all, so far you are the only one who has commented on her death.  Bizzare, not a lot of MTM fans I guess..


I always wondered what that lady in the picture was thinking, probably what the hell! lol

Read so many tributes yesterday on Mary, they were just pouring in and CNN yesterday had all the people who had worked with her over the years calling.  It was so nice, everyone said the same things, just a lovely person.

Who could turn the world on with her smile.

I actually checked Netflix last night to see if the Mary Tyler Moore show was on there, but it wasn't.


They are showing some clips on TV though today, speaking of women's rights, she paved the way on that show.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 26, 2017, 10:06:00 AM
They are showing some clips on TV though today, speaking of women's rights, she paved the way on that show.

Candice Bergen was on the Today show this morning to talk about Mary because I guess Candice was something of a trail blazer, too, with her Murphy Brown show (having a baby single, for example).

Unfortunately, I had to be busy getting ready for work, so I didn't hear much of anything that she had to say.

It's funny, I guess. I think I was maybe all of 12 years old or thereabouts when The Mary Tyler Moore show debuted, so I had no clue that she was being a trail blazer. For me, at the time, the show just ... was.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 26, 2017, 11:20:35 AM

Jeff, the opening credits of MTM's show have been gone over with a fine tooth comb
over the years. (They tinkered with it every season in small ways.) People have long
ago tracked down the woman behind Mary in the scene when she throws her hat in
the air.

This unwitting "extra" was Hazel Frederick, a lifelong Minnesota resident who happened to be out shopping the day the sequence was shot. Mrs. Frederick finally met Moore in 1994 when she was on a book tour for her autobiography, "After All." Moore introduced Frederick as "my co-star".

Also, in one version of the credits you see MTM sitting at a table in a restaurant having dinner with another man.
It's a shot from outside through the window and then the camera pulls back to reveal the whole several story
building.  That man is her husband, Grant Tinker.  The location is still a restaurant (Basil's) and the owner says
they always still have people coming in to request sitting at that table. They even call it the Mary Tyler Moore
table!

Another interesting thing.  The house that they used for the exterior where MTM (and Rhoda and Phyllis) lived
had owners who grew increasingly annoyed by people coming to their door and with the MTM company coming
to film it on occasion and they finally refused all requests, but it didn't stop and local TV kept doing spots outside
and such because the show was set there and all.  In an effort to try to curb people from filming etc. they hung
banners across the house that read "Impeach Nixon," and similar ideas. There's a news extra about this included
on one of the dvd editions of the series.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 26, 2017, 12:06:00 PM

Shall I relate my MTM story?

If I had come to California a year earlier I would've gone to a taping of her show.  The Bob Newhart Show was on
for another year after MTM and I did see a taping of that show!

In 1978, MTM decided to try her hand at doing a variety show. At that time variety shows were pretty much on
their last legs. The series was titled MARY, it was scheduled for Sunday nights and I believe it was cancelled after
three airings.

Before all that, though, they were taping episodes at CBS Television City (in Hollywood!) and I got tickets for a taping.
It was a Friday night in September and it was one of those fall days in Los Angeles, with Santa Ana conditions meaning
it was terribly hot (like 100° give or take) that day and dry and such.  After work, I and two guys from where I worked
went to CBS to try and see the taping.

I say "try" because unless you have an "in" in some way, a ticket to a TV taping is first come first serve and you never know
if you're going to get in or not. If it's a popular show the lines are very long and people line up hours earlier. I waited in line
for a taping once and they had some bus tour groups with tickets that night and they all went in and maybe ten people in
line only got in. So you never really know.

That night we went after work and got in the very long line that was there and waited outside in the heat for one hour, two hours,
three hours.  During that time the line was moving ever so slowly.  It got to the point where we were around ten people ahead of us
and after all that it looked like we weren't going to get in.  In my experience going to tapings by myself, I always found if you waited
and waited you just might get in somehow at the last minute, so I wanted to stay.  At this point my two co-workers wanted to leave,
we'd been out in the heat for three hours, after all.  We hadn't had dinner. I don't recall how many, but I my recollection is that two
people of the ten in front of us were let in, but told they wouldn't be sitting together. A CBS page told the crowd they'd be shutting the
doors and the rest of us wouldn't get in. My next recollection is that we didn't leave yet, deciding what to do, most everyone else left,
and we were then at the front of the line IF anyone else was going to get in.

Miracle of miracles, someone from inside comes out and whispers something to the page and the page says to us, "There are three seats
available, how many in your party?  THREE!  Holy cow we get to go in! We are not going to be turned away into the disappointed night!
As we are going in we were telling each other where to meet afterwards because we didn't think we'd be sitting together.  The place was
jam packed--there were only three seats left after all, and the warm-up comedian was talking to the audience. I remember thinking it
was nice just to be inside, even if I'd be sitting behind a camera in the back or something. To our huge surprise, we followed the page and
kept on following him, right down to the front of the place and he pointed us toward three seats "in the front row!"

Are you kidding me?  Well, our spirits did a 180° reversal from being out in hundred degree weather on our feet for three hours and thinking
we weren't getting in, to being ushered in to an air conditioned studio to be seated in the front row to see MTM's new variety show!  As we looked
at each other in amazement we sat down while the warm-up guy, who happened to be David Letterman (!), was asking people in the audience
where they were from, trying to determine who was there from the furthest place. So, as I was in the process of sitting I raised my hand and
David asked me where I was from. I replied, "Studio City."  Not far away at all. I'm not sure what he said back (not in a bad way), but you could
tell he thought "Oh, here we have a jokester, s smart aleck, or some-such." He did ask what my name was. My two co-worker friends, whose
names I still recall, Al and Ken, couldn't believe I did that.

So, the taping began right away since we were outside waiting so long.  The first thing was that MTM was introduced and she came out to greet
the audience. So, David Letterman says to her that people from all over were there tonight and mentioned some places.  Then he says, and "Lyle
is here tonight!"  Mary asks David where he's from.  Dave replies, somewhat sarcastically, "All the way from Studio City."  Then Mary comes over to
the edge of the stage and puts her hand to her forehead like she's peering out into the back of the studio and says, "Lyle, where are you?" Dave
says, "Oh, no Mary, he's not way in the back, he's right down there in the front row!" She looks down and I raise my hand a little. She comes over
right in front of me. The stage is a few feet above us. She says hello to me and tells me her parents are from Studio City. Then she says, "Would
you like to meet them?" I'm sure I was thinking "what the heck does that mean?" or something, but I guess I said, "Yes, sure."  She then says,
"I hope they can see the show tonight because they're sitting right behind you."  LOL!

I turned around to see Mary's parents looking at me, they smiled and we said "hello" to each other, as my two friends were not believing any of
this was happening.

At some point after that the rest of the cast of this show was introduced.  David Letterman did the warm-up for the studio audience, but he was
also IN the show.  Also in this variety show were Swoosie Kurtz, Dick Shawn and Michael Keaton!

I remember that this show was to be aired the Sunday before Thanksgiving because there was a Thanksgiving sketch in it that
was very amusing. The family was coming for Thanksgiving at Mom's and Mom (MTM) was talked about and portrayed as the
sweetest thing around, much like we actually think MTM as being.  Indeed, when we meet her she is exactly that. But then she
goes into the kitchen where she has two people helping her and she turns into a Simon Legree!  This alternates with her behavior
in the kitchen contrasted with her behavior at the dinner table.  It was very good.

I also remember the dancers on the show did a dance number choreographed as characters on a CLUE game board.  Very inventive!

So, in between the sketches when there were set-ups and some down moments, David Letterman would go back to the corner and talk
to the audience again and most each time I became a running gag! He would say things like, "You doing all right, Lyle? Can I get you anything?"
and once, "Looks like we're going to run a little long tonight, Lyle, do you need to go make a phone call?  Perhaps tell your mother you'll be getting
home a little late all the way over there in Studio City?"

 ;D

Needless to say, it was a memorable night!

The taping we saw was done before the series had even started airing, but when the series premiered it only aired three times
and the show we saw taped never even made it to air.  I looked it up on wikipedia and there's scant information about it. They
say on there that only three episodes were produced.  There were three aired, but since we saw an episode scheduled for around
Thanksgiving, there had to be more than that actually taped.  If they aired one every week from when it premiered, that would
be at least 9 or 10 that they had done.  I wonder where they are?  I know David Letterman showed a clip from one, of him in a
dance number, on his show once.

I enjoyed reminiscing about this today.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 26, 2017, 12:49:32 PM
Lyle, that's a wonderful story about the taping.  :)

(You need to write a book. You really do!)

And how much fun to know about the lady in the scarf in the credits!

I guess we all remember Mary throwing her cap in the air, but I have no memory at all of the restaurant sequence--or of any other part of the credits, for that matter.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on January 26, 2017, 03:47:48 PM
Lyle seriously why don't you write a book, I mean really - you need to write all this stuff down at the very least, have you?

I knew nothing about a variety show and I ask yet again, why are there no variety shows anymore..


I was scared to mention it but Tony Orlando was at Trumps  inauguration ball, be still my heart.


I can't be the only person on earth who misses the good old variety show and Mary would have been great at it..

Dave and Mary, can this be like a six degrees of separation for me, even though you and I don't know each other personally?   :laugh:

WOW 

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 26, 2017, 05:29:35 PM
minute and half long,  Kathy Griffin on Don Rickles, Betty White, and Mary Tyler Moore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AZNvlaz2F4
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 26, 2017, 07:52:21 PM
I can't be the only person on earth who misses the good old variety show and Mary would have been great at it..

Hey, I grew up with The Carol Burnett Show. My parents never needed to worry about where I was on a Saturday night. I was watching Mary Tyler Moore, Bob Newhart, and Carol Burnett.

But, yes, I miss these shows, too. I enjoyed all of them: In addition to Carol Burnett, Flip Wilson, Glenn Campbell, Andy Williams, Sonny and Cher, Barbara Mandrell and her sisters--and Tony Orlando and Dawn!  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 27, 2017, 07:18:30 AM
Anybody else see the salute to Mary Tyler Moore on CBS last night?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on January 27, 2017, 09:53:15 AM
Darn, I missed it!! :(
Maybe I can see if online at CBS.com
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 27, 2017, 10:18:35 AM
Darn, I missed it!! :(
Maybe I can see if online at CBS.com

I had no idea it was coming. they showed reruns of BBT and Mom at 8:00 and 8:30 EST, respectively, and then the MTM program at 9:00. It's an hour long.

SPOILER ALERT: They said MTM made a guest appearance on Hot in Cleveland (when the regulars first saw her, Betty White said, "I guess she made it after all"  :D ), and at the time she was almost completely blind, I presume from her diabetes.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 27, 2017, 10:53:54 AM

It is on there, Linda, that's where I watched it.  The first half seems to become all about Oprah, and while interesting
and I get the point of how MTM affected people like her, it seemed to come off more about Oprah as it went on.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on January 27, 2017, 11:02:21 AM
Thanks for the info, Lyle.

Well that is disappointing about it being more about Oprah than MTM.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 27, 2017, 11:07:14 AM
Dave and Mary, can this be like a six degrees of separation for me, even though you and I don't know each other personally?   :laugh:

 Sure!


I knew nothing about a variety show and I ask yet again, why are there no variety shows anymore..

Well, two years ago, Maya Rudolph did a variety special on NBC.  It was a pilot of sorts for a series.
A year later, last year, from May 31st into July they gave her a six episode variety series for "the
summer."  For whatever reason, it was decided she shouldn't just be the star of the show and they
did what I thought was a really bad idea, they wanted Martin Short to be her partner in it. While I
hated that idea I watched it when it came on, because like you guys have said, I like variety shows.
Well, their partnership did work. Maya treated Short like she didn't need him around and that was
quite funny. In other words, she didn't put up with his antics, and it came off more like Harvey Korman
to her Carol Burnett.

The series worked quite well, I thought.  Many of the sketches were quite amusing. Maya can sing, too,
and I liked the segments when she did so, either by herself or with others.  One of the players on the
show was Mikey Day, who became an SNL regular this past fall.  The Orlando tragedy happened while
this show was on and the next week they did a huge tribute to those affected with dozens of Broadway
stars singing and it was very effective.  The show was called Maya & Marty.

I don't know if this will be something they'll do again this summer or not, but I hope so.  I enjoyed it.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 27, 2017, 11:24:49 AM
I don't know if this will be something they'll do again this summer or not, but I hope so.  I enjoyed it.

That reminds me of something else I remember, too: Summer replacement shows.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on January 27, 2017, 11:26:07 AM
http://www.nbc.com/maya-and-marty

WOW not sure how I missed that Lyle!  Looks good..


Actually 20/20 tonight is on Mary Tyler Moore.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 27, 2017, 11:26:38 AM
Well that is disappointing about it being more about Oprah than MTM.

Personally, I think I'm willing to forgive how much time was spent on Oprah and what MTM meant to her, and so forth, because it seems to me the show must have been cobbled together pretty quickly. I had no idea it was coming.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 27, 2017, 12:24:33 PM

The second half was much better, especially the interview segments she had done
over the years with Charlie Rose.  She was wonderfully animated and interested and
in the moment!

(I believe Charlie Rose showed several long segments on his show this week.  It'll
probably be online, probably PBS.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 27, 2017, 12:49:32 PM
The second half was much better, especially the interview segments she had done
over the years with Charlie Rose.  She was wonderfully animated and interested and
in the moment!

I thought so, too. I enjoyed those segments.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on January 27, 2017, 07:08:33 PM
(http://cdn5.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/landscape_928x523/2016/05/perry_mason_tv_3-h_2016.jpg)


Barbara Hale, who played the steadfast secretary Della Street opposite Raymond Burr on the legendary courtroom drama Perry Mason for nine seasons and 30 telefilms, has died. She was 94.


Hale, a former contract player at RKO and Columbia who made more than 50 films before landing her signature role, died Thursday at her Sherman Oaks home in Los Angeles.


Survivors include her son William Katt, best known as the star of the 1980s ABC series The Greatest American Hero. He reported her death on Facebook.


"We’ve all been so lucky to have her for so long," Katt wrote. "She was gracious and kind and silly and always fun to be with. A wonderful actress and smart businesswoman, she was most of all a treasure as a friend and mother!"

Hale was mulling retirement to raise her three young children with her husband, actor Bill Williams (The Adventures of Kit Carson), when producer Gail Patrick Jackson approached her about playing Della on Perry Mason.


She quickly accepted the gig when she discovered that Burr, her old friend from RKO, was going to star as the fictional defense attorney in the series based on the Erle Stanley Gardner mystery novels.

Hale received two Emmy nominations (winning in 1959) for playing the quiet beauty who was the rock of stability on Mason's team. She liked the fact that Della was unmarried and without kids so it wouldn't confuse her real-life children.

Perry Mason, with its distinctive Fred Steiner theme song, "Park Avenue Beat," aired on CBS from 1957-66 as the first network hourlong show to be filmed, not done live....



http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/barbara-hale-dead-perry-mason-893891
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 28, 2017, 10:12:14 AM
Actually, it seems we may have lost three at once: Barbara Hale, John Hurt (better known for movies, of course), and Mike Connors (Mannix).

I haven't actually seen any reports about Mike Connors, but at work yesterday afternoon one of my teammates e-mailed me "R.I.P. Mannix."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on January 28, 2017, 12:01:16 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/arts/mike-connors-mannix-dies.html?_r=0

Oh had not heard about Mike Connors - Mannix, there's an oldie but a goodie..


And what an interesting article, I didn't know a lot of that. 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 28, 2017, 02:51:32 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/arts/mike-connors-mannix-dies.html?_r=0

Oh had not heard about Mike Connors - Mannix, there's an oldie but a goodie..

And what an interesting article, I didn't know a lot of that.

Thank you so much for the link! That was very interesting. We were regular Mannix watchers--and I always thought he was handsome.

I remember learning years ago that he was of Armenian descent. And I would swear just recently I heard the Mannix theme music used in a TV commercial.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 03, 2017, 01:50:39 PM
OK, I'm going to post this here, because it concerns the star of a classic TV show, though it's really kind of a funny movie joke--at least I think it's funny.

I learned today that handsome-handsome Guy Madison starred in what was probably a B-Western called The Charge at Feather River (Vera Miles was in it, too). Madison played a character named Miles Archer.

Well, "Miles Archer" was the name of Humphrey Bogart's partner in The Maltese Falcon.

 :D

Movie writers' inside joke?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on February 03, 2017, 02:01:12 PM
Great!

And Madison was a dreamboat!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 03, 2017, 02:31:28 PM
And Madison was a dreamboat!

He sure was! Too bad he didn't become a bigger star.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on February 04, 2017, 09:05:47 AM
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/cc0ff49dafc2bfc566203bcdb1c9f868/tumblr_nhr1kz32js1qazanuo1_540.jpg)


Had to go look him up!  8)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 04, 2017, 09:44:11 AM
He sure was! Too bad he didn't become a bigger star.

It was partly the movies they put him in, a lot of B westerns.  Partly not a good actor.
He had a six year run un the 50's on a television series which was a success.

Let us know, Jeff, when you see this Gunsmoke episode he was in:

Wagon Train
- The Riley Gratton Story (1957) ... as Riley Gratton

He also did is a movie that year with the title: The Hard Man   :)

I guess he was a burden in it--Steve Burden that is!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 04, 2017, 09:52:02 AM
It was partly the movies they put him in, a lot of B westerns.  Partly not a good actor.

True. I've read that most--though perhaps not all--of Henry Willson's clients were better in the looks department than in the acting department. (I'm not sure I agree with that.)

Quote
He had a six year run un the 50's on a television series which was a success.

I should see if that's available on DVD.

Quote
Wagon Train
- The Riley Gratton Story (1957) ... as Riley Gratton

I saw that episode a long time ago. I could try watching it again from my DVD collection.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on February 04, 2017, 09:52:41 AM
I watched Wild Bill Hickok religiously. I guess my parents thought it was because I liked cowboys and Indians, but that was only partly the reason.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 04, 2017, 09:52:48 AM
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/cc0ff49dafc2bfc566203bcdb1c9f868/tumblr_nhr1kz32js1qazanuo1_540.jpg)


Had to go look him up!  8)

OMG what a beautiful young man he was!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on February 04, 2017, 10:16:50 AM
http://www.guymadison.com/

Enjoy!    ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on February 04, 2017, 10:25:01 AM
Thanks! Never saw him with a beard before. Even better!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 04, 2017, 10:37:12 AM

According to the book about Henry Willson, notorious Hollywood agent, Guy was one of his
discoveries--he saw him at a radio show taping in Hollywood while Guy was on leave from
the Navy during WWII.  The book says Henry had a whole album of naked pictures of him
in an album at his house, many taken on his front lawn.  Boy, what would that fetch at
auction today?  He also was said to have had a long standing relationship with Rory Calhoun.
They did, in fact, live with their wives in houses right next door to each other in Morongo
valley and they would regularly go on "fishing trips" together.

They did actually catch some fish, too:

(http://www.guymadison.com/images/396_RoryandGuyFishing-07.jpg)

I found an interesting quote from Rory Calhoun, who was godfather to at least
one of Guy's children, that was published when Guy Madison succumbed to emphysema...

"We shared a lot of campfires together. It is another empty saddle, and I will really miss him," said fellow Western star
and lifelong hunting companion Rory Calhoun.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 04, 2017, 10:38:47 AM

Here's Guy, Henry Willson and Rory.  Sewing class?
Make your own chaps?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1pT79Hl5IGE/Uhzhuaf8AkI/AAAAAAACC1w/zpB_Cfx_XRY/s1600/guy-rory-henry.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 04, 2017, 10:39:14 AM
"It's your agent."

"No, it's your agent."

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CNPZ0JYfo5Y/SzqZkwxn0MI/AAAAAAAAOBg/umEV5JySz4A/s800/rorycalhoun6.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 04, 2017, 10:39:44 AM

I only have eyes for you:

(http://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/3686094/800full-guy-madison.jpg)

Cathy Downs, Guy Madison, Rory Calhoun & Deanna Durbin.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 04, 2017, 10:40:05 AM

An officer and a gentleman:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/47/dc/1a/47dc1a0a96e04c19ec5b65612808fa63.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 04, 2017, 10:40:25 AM

Hey...cowboy...

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jCppEjLkwy8/UhzhyjVeffI/AAAAAAACC3k/zcaOXF6z8nk/s1600/rory+calhoun+shirtless.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 04, 2017, 10:40:52 AM

I ain't much of a cook...

(http://www.westernclippings.com/images/treasures/wt70_rorycalhoun_dishes.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 04, 2017, 10:41:13 AM

Rory and Guy in Kodachrome!

(http://images.easyart.com/i/prints/rw/lg/2/3/Celebrity-Image-Rory-Calhoun-237121.jpg)(http://greginhollywood.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/guy-madison-early_thumb.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 04, 2017, 10:42:46 AM
P.S.:  Guess this Hollywood actor who was also in the Navy (WWII) before Hollywood beckoned:


(https://mattsko.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/sailor4333.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on February 04, 2017, 10:43:41 AM


They did actually catch some fish, too:

(http://www.guymadison.com/images/396_RoryandGuyFishing-07.jpg)


Yes maybe they didn't go up there to fish?  ::)



I have a question, wonder how many old classic TV stars graced the front of cereal boxes?


(http://www.guymadison.com/images/274_Picture_005.jpg)


I don't really buy cereal much, but I am pretty sure they aren't doing that anymore!



That is Paul Newman, I would recognize those eyes anywhere!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 04, 2017, 10:44:39 AM

Correct!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on February 04, 2017, 10:45:17 AM
(http://www.guymadison.com/images/831_GuyinAZ.jpg)


Handsome devil, he sure aged well..
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on February 04, 2017, 10:52:43 AM
27 Gay Actors in TV History


http://www.retrobunny.org/27-gay-actors-in-tv-history/


27 that's it?  :laugh:


17. Jack Larson, Adventures of Superman

Jack Larson 27 Gay Actors in TV History

Alive and well at 86, Larson is remembered as cub reporter Jimmy Olson on the ’50s serial Adventures of Superman. Never closeted, Larson was in relationships with actor Montgomery Clift and director James Bridges, the latter lasting 35 years.



(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTM0ODU5NDE4NF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwOTE3MzYxOA@@._V1_UY1200_CR151,0,630,1200_AL_.jpg)



Cute!



Not alive and well though, died September 20, 2015 at the age of 87
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 04, 2017, 04:30:22 PM
I ain't much of a cook...

(http://www.westernclippings.com/images/treasures/wt70_rorycalhoun_dishes.jpg)

I wonder how he was with a can opener?  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 04, 2017, 04:32:04 PM
P.S.:  Guess this Hollywood actor who was also in the Navy (WWII) before Hollywood beckoned:


(https://mattsko.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/sailor4333.jpg)

That is Paul Newman, I would recognize those eyes anywhere!

Yeah, no mistaking that face.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 04, 2017, 04:36:21 PM
An officer and a gentleman:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/47/dc/1a/47dc1a0a96e04c19ec5b65612808fa63.jpg)

Madison sure looked good in a cavalry uniform.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 04, 2017, 04:40:47 PM
I only have eyes for you:

(http://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/3686094/800full-guy-madison.jpg)

Cathy Downs, Guy Madison, Rory Calhoun & Deanna Durbin.

"Husbands don't ever want to dance with their wives."

 :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 05, 2017, 03:14:34 PM

   :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: morrobay on February 05, 2017, 08:16:25 PM
I just treated myself to the 3 seasons of the British comedy "To The Manor Born", from Amazon.  It stars Penelope Keith & Peter Bowles.  It was shown over here in the early 80s, along with Good Neighbors, The Bounder, The Last Song (my favorite) and others, when British comedy was more popular here...it's still popular, I don't know why they don't show more...they had British comedy night on Saturdays.  I don't even think they show the Eastenders any more, I was a faithful watcher for several years.

From imdb:
The series has held up quite well, 25 years later, and not just in a technical sense, though the audio and video are practically perfect. No, what has yet to run out of steam is the perverse charm to be had in watching Britain cling to its outmoded yet romantic ideals of aristocracy, despite the impossibility of maintaining such a system — “recently impoverished gentry” would seem an oxymoron if it weren’t so obviously a major issue in contemporary British society. And watching old-money-with-no-money clashing with new-money-and-rolling-in-it has a certain revolutionary, democratic appeal for American audiences, like we’re watching the scales get rebalanced right before our very eyes. And it doesn’t hurt that Bowles and Keith are two of the best British comedy has to offer.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/04/09/article-1264912-0912CB43000005DC-915_468x389.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 05, 2017, 08:47:43 PM
I just treated myself to the 3 seasons of the British comedy "To The Manor Born", from Amazon.  It stars Penelope Keith & Peter Bowles.  It was shown over here in the early 80s, along with Good Neighbors, The Bounder, The Last Song (my favorite) and others, when British comedy was more popular here...it's still popular, I don't know why they don't show more...they had British comedy night on Saturdays.  I don't even think they show the Eastenders any more, I was a faithful watcher for several years.

FWIW, some years ago now, our local PBS station used to show a Britcom every evening at 7:30. For several years than ran "Are You Being Served," "Keeping Up Appearances," "Last of the Wine," and "As Time Goes By" (I loved that last one), and then a few other, mostly forgettable ones, on the fifth evening. Then they claimed they couldn't afford to run them anymore.  >:(

Now they run "BBC World News America" in that time slot, which is OK, but it's not a Britcom.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: morrobay on February 05, 2017, 08:57:41 PM
As Time Goes By!  That was another great one, I forgot all about it!  Judi Dench before she was Q - or was it M?

Yes, PBS was the station that had Sat. British comedy night, I really miss that.  They still have good British shows, Downton, Sherlock, Poldark...but I miss the funny stuff.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 06, 2017, 06:44:15 AM
Yes, PBS was the station that had Sat. British comedy night, I really miss that.  They still have good British shows, Downton, Sherlock, Poldark...but I miss the funny stuff.

At 7 p.m. on Saturdays our PBS station runs "The Lawrence Welk Show."  ;D Then they run a movie. I mentioned in the Movie thread that recently they showed "9 to 5" and the next weekend "Tootsie," two movies I hadn't seen since I saw them in the theater.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Sara B on February 06, 2017, 02:31:41 PM
As Time Goes By!  That was another great one, I forgot all about it!  Judi Dench before she was Q - or was it M?

Yes, PBS was the station that had Sat. British comedy night, I really miss that.  They still have good British shows, Downton, Sherlock, Poldark...but I miss the funny stuff.

To the Manor Born and As Time Goes By both still wear well in their different ways. TTMB was filmed about 12 miles from here, at Cricket St Thomas. I think the Manor House is now a hotel.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on February 06, 2017, 03:31:12 PM
FWIW, some years ago now, our local PBS station used to show a Britcom every evening at 7:30. For several years than ran "Are You Being Served," "Keeping Up Appearances," "Last of the Wine," and "As Time Goes By" (I loved that last one), and then a few other, mostly forgettable ones, on the fifth evening. Then they claimed they couldn't afford to run them anymore.  >:(

Now they run "BBC World News America" in that time slot, which is OK, but it's not a Britcom.

I do remember As Time Goes By, and I loved Keeping up Appearances. Faulty Towers, I can remember my Parents watching Steptoe and Son, On the Buses, Benny Hill, Bless This House, Some Mothers do ave em (I liked that guy)..


And Coronation Street, which of course is still running!



Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 06, 2017, 08:39:17 PM
I loved Keeping up Appearances.

I have a friend I tease about having Royal Doulton with hand-painted periwinkles.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on February 06, 2017, 09:06:20 PM
I have a friend I tease about having Royal Doulton with hand-painted periwinkles.  :D

 :laugh: :laugh:  You aren't really Sheridan Bucket are you?


Honestly I use to laugh my head off at some of the things she would say, we could do a whole post on her.



(http://tellyspotting.kera.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Hyacinth-Bucket-talking-to-Sheridan-on-her-white-slimline-with-automatic-redial.jpg)


On her white slimline phone!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 07, 2017, 07:00:51 AM
:laugh: :laugh:  You aren't really Sheridan Bucket are you?

It's Boo-kay!  :D

(http://tellyspotting.kera.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Hyacinth-Bucket-talking-to-Sheridan-on-her-white-slimline-with-automatic-redial.jpg)


On her white slimline phone![/quote]

"This isn't the Chinese take-away!"  :D

Love our Hyacinth!  :D

Fun fact: If you ever see the movie To Sir, With Love, you can see a quite young Patricia Routledge playing a teacher at the school!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on February 07, 2017, 09:16:25 AM
 :laugh: I will check that out, loved that movie!  I just checked she is still alive and well, never married, never had children.


(https://dannypotter03.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/onslo.jpg)


I think Onslow needs his own eyelashes thread!  ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 07, 2017, 09:19:56 AM
:laugh: I will check that out, loved that movie!  I just checked she is still alive and well, never married, never had children.


(https://dannypotter03.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/onslo.jpg)


I think Onslow needs his own eyelashes thread!  ;)

Good old bone-idle Onslow.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on February 07, 2017, 09:34:13 AM
bone-idle!  :laugh:


(http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/96/9640/L3OE500Z/posters/dick-williams-photocall-for-new-bbc-production-keeping-up-appearances.jpg)



What a family!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on February 07, 2017, 09:35:22 AM
bone-idle!  :laugh:


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What a family!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 07, 2017, 09:47:36 AM
bone-idle!  :laugh:

I believe I heard our Daisy call Onslow that once or twice.  :D


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What a family!!

Is that Hyacinth's country cottage in the background?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on February 07, 2017, 01:03:12 PM
 :laugh:  cozy charismatic cottage, not sure!


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on February 07, 2017, 05:57:58 PM
This is sad news, I remember him well... :'(


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Richard Hatch -- best known for playing Captain Apollo on the original "Battlestar Galactica" TV series -- has died ... family sources tell TMZ.

We're told Hatch had pancreatic cancer and went into hospice care a few weeks ago.

The actor, writer and producer began working in television in 1970 when he joined the cast of "All My Children" ... before landing a starring role on 'BG' in 1978. He was nominated for a Golden Globe for Best Actor in a TV series in 1979.


Hatch made several guest appearances in the '80s on shows like "Murder, She Wrote," "The Love Boat" and "Fantasy Island." He also returned to the "Battlestar Galactica" franchise in a re-imagined series in 2004 as the character Tom Zarek.

Hatch was 71 years old.

RIP
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 07, 2017, 08:05:02 PM
Sad news.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 11, 2017, 02:47:45 PM
27 Gay Actors in TV History
http://www.retrobunny.org/27-gay-actors-in-tv-history/
27 that's it?  :laugh:
17. Jack Larson, Adventures of Superman

I finally checked this out.  Besides the one you highlighted, Jack Larson, there were two others
I didn't know about, Glenn Scarpelli and Joeseph Kearns.

I'm sure there were a lot more than 27!  I can name a 28th: Hayden Rorke.
He played Dr. Bellows on I Dream of Jeannie.  Barbara Eden remarked that
he and his partner often had her over for dinner at their home in Studio City.

They also left out Lily Tomlin. (Hello?) Also Dack Rambo. Oh...and Meredith Baxter.
Oops, if I keep remembering I'll be here awhile.


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on February 11, 2017, 04:11:11 PM
I like the lists because I always learn a little bit about someone, like:


20. Ron Palillo, Welcome Back, Kotter

Forever known as the obnoxious Arnold Horshack on Welcome Back, Kotter, Palillo felt he was typecast after the show and was unable to get a wider variety of roles. He directed and taught for decades before his 2012 death in Florida, where he lived with his partner of 41 years, Joseph Gramm.



I actually went and verified this, 41 years, that's a long time, a life time.   Good for them!  I take my hat off to anyone these days in a happy long term relationship, I feel we are few and far between anymore.


You actually feel bad for stars of old TV/movies, for a lot of them there was just no way they could have come out.


Now a lot of them are never in!





Dack and Dirk Rambo where born on November 13th, 1941.  Dack died on March 21st, 1994 at age 52 from complications from AIDS.

Dirk was killed by a drunk driver Feb. 5th, 1967 at age 25.

 :'(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 12, 2017, 10:14:40 AM

Ron and his partner used to frequent where I worked for several years
during the 80's. We could see and talk to them several times a week.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on February 12, 2017, 10:56:58 AM
Ron and his partner used to frequent where I worked for several years
during the 80's. We could see and talk to them several times a week.


WRITE A BOOK!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 12, 2017, 01:28:04 PM
I finally checked this out.  Besides the one you highlighted, Jack Larson, there were two others
I didn't know about, Glenn Scarpelli and Joseph Kearns.

You mean the original Mr. Wilson?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 13, 2017, 11:47:34 AM

Yes.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 20, 2017, 09:58:48 AM
You might say I had a bit of a revelation, or at least a realization, last evening.

I've confessed before to watching The Lawrence Welk Show on our local PBS affiliate at 7 p.m. on Saturdays, usually while I'm preparing or eating dinner. A few weeks, ago, when I tuned in a few minutes early for Mercy Street on Sunday evening, I discovered that the station also runs the Welk show at 7 p.m on Sundays.

Well, I had the Welk show on last evening, and it suddenly struck me how lily-white it was. The entire Welk orchestra was white.  All the singers and the resident dancers were white. The only African American who was a member of Welk's "musical family" was the tap dancer Arthur Duncan--and how stereotypical was that, an African American tap dancer (no intent to impune Duncan's talent here; that's not my point)?

To judge from shots of the audience, Welk's target audience was clearly middle-aged and older white Americans--my grandparents certainly fit that demographic--but it would be interesting to know if Welk ever even gave an audition to an African American singer--or if any African American singer even sought an audition with Welk.

Another program contemporary with the early years of the Welk show, Sing Along with Mitch, with Mitch Miller, had at least one African American singer in the singer-actress Leslie Uggams (she later appeared in Roots as the adult daughter of Kunte Kinte), but I guess she was the token African American on the Sing Along show, as Arthur Duncan was on the Welk show.

Just sharing an observation here, and I'm probably late in realizing it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on February 20, 2017, 10:54:26 AM
You got my curious, so I had to google, found this:


I would like to add this. When Johnny Klein, the drummer for almost 20 years had health problems he was replaced by Paul Humphries. Paul is an african american drummer and was with the show from about 1976 to 1982.

Lawrence also had great respect for the african american band leader, Duke Ellington. Lawrence had one of Duke's sax players (forgive me, but I can't remember his name, but he was african american) on as a guest.




But honestly think of f classic tv shows in general,  Andy Griffith, I Love Lucy, Gilligan's Island, Beverly Hillbillies, Leave it to Beaver, etc... how many black actors were on these shows?   Not just a guest spot, but a regular would have been nice.


Of course there was LINC!!


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 20, 2017, 11:12:27 AM

Even when I was growing up The Lawrence Welk Show was considered
a program for old fuddy-duddys. They were sponsored for a long time
by Geritol after all.  Come to think of it, is Geritol still around?  Or the
other one - Serutan?  So, I doubt any black person wanted to be a part
of it anyway!  Heh!  I have caught some of these on PBS and find them
quite entertaining.

Two other things...when the Smothers Brothers Show got canned for being
too controversial, CBS recruited Leslie Uggams to headline her own variety
series in that timeslot.  I liked it, but it only lasted ten episodes in the fall
of 1969.  That she was on at all headlining her own variety series is pretty
remarkable in my book!

Also, because PBS has been airing Lawrence Welk programs on the weekends
for a few years, some writers on Saturday Night Live caught some of the shows.
They saw the female singing groups on there, like the Lennon Sisters, and were
obviously noting how pretty all the sisters were. One of them wondered "What
if one of these groups had a sister who was not like all the pretty ones?" Thus,
a running sketch was born of The Lawrence Welk Show featuring the Daharelle
sisters with Kirsten Wiig playing the odd sister out--Dooneese.  If you type in
The Lawrence Welk Show SNL into google it will bring up youtube links for most
of these sketches which often featured the guest hosts like James Franco, Betty
White and Alec Baldwin.

On a side note, TV Guide did a little article about celebrities with California vanity
license plates once and noted that Lawrence Welk's license plate read: A1ANA2,
the phrase he often started a number with, "A one and a two..."  One morning on
my way to work I was sitting on a bus in the Cahuenga pass and I looked down
watching a car pass and there was that license plate!  I couldn't tell if it was he
who was driving it or not.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on February 20, 2017, 11:32:50 AM
Growing up on a farm in North Dakota, Welk speak English on a regular basis until he started to attend high school.

http://history.nd.gov/historicsites/welk/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_and_Christina_Welk_Homestead

And yes, I have to admit, I enjoyed watching his show!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 20, 2017, 11:33:32 AM
I would like to add this. When Johnny Klein, the drummer for almost 20 years had health problems he was replaced by Paul Humphries. Paul is an african american drummer and was with the show from about 1976 to 1982.

Thanks for that! According to host Mary Lou Metzger, the program broadcast last evening was from 1980, so Paul Humphries should have been in the orchestra, and I did not notice him.

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But honestly think of f classic tv shows in general,  Andy Griffith, I Love Lucy, Gilligan's Island, Beverly Hillbillies, Leave it to Beaver, etc... how many black actors were on these shows?   Not just a guest spot, but a regular would have been nice.


Of course there was LINC!!


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 8)

True enough! But don't forget Julia, with Diahann Carrol.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 20, 2017, 11:41:00 AM
Two other things...when the Smothers Brothers Show got canned for being
too controversial, CBS recruited Leslie Uggams to headline her own variety
series in that timeslot.  I liked it, but it only lasted ten episodes in the fall
of 1969.  That she was on at all headlining her own variety series is pretty
remarkable in my book!

Indeed. And I always liked her. I have no memory of her show, so it must have been opposite something else we watched in my home. (If it was on Thursdays at 7:30, nothing--absolutely nothing--was allowed to interfere with Daniel Boone.  :laugh: )

I  should look up when Flip Wilson's show debuted.

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On a side note, TV Guide did a little article about celebrities with California vanity
license plates once and noted that Lawrence Welk's license plate read: A1ANA2,
the phrase he often started a number with, "A one and a two..."  One morning on
my way to work I was sitting on a bus in the Cahuenga pass and I looked down
watching a car pass and there was that license plate!  I couldn't tell if it was he
who was driving it or not.

That should be "a one-a an' a two-a," pronounced just like the vanity plate.  :D

If memory serves, there was also, "Wonnerful, wonnerful."  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on February 20, 2017, 11:52:29 AM

True enough! But don't forget Julia, with Diahann Carrol.  :)


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I remember it well, I loved it..
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 20, 2017, 12:09:50 PM

Oddly enough, the NAACP was responsible for erasing one of the best sitcoms ever
to air with black people, Amos N' Andy. That show became a lightning rod for the idea
of black people being stereotyped as lazy and/or good for nothing, in the character of
the Kingfish.  It was also very problematic that the original Amos n' Andy characters
were thought up by white men and portrayed by them on radio.  Worse, they played
them on film in blackface. So the origins of the characters weren't happily organic and
from a black perspective, but the tv series, which ran 4 seasons and 78 episodes, should
not have been excised from history. It is true that the Kingfish character has many less
than desirable traits, but everyone else in the show is not like that and many episodes
deal with anything that other sitcoms of the day did.  Watched today, you wouldn't think
anything of it. I, myself, have seen all but a few of those 78 episodes.

When home video became popular there were many tapes of this series floating around,
probably still are, so it's out there for anyone that searches for it, but like Song of the South,
there's a great stigma about any official and public release of these materials, which is really
a shame.  It does a disservice to those talents who made them successful and will be lost to
history because of what is actually censorship.

I haven't seen this since the 80's, but in 1983 there was a one hour documentary about the
series called Amos n' Andy: Anatomy of a Controversy that discusses this topic.  I wonder how
different the documentary might be if it were made now as 1983 was, get ready, 34 years
ago!

It is available to watch on youtube at present:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ka6u2WA_zU
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on February 20, 2017, 04:31:27 PM
David Cassidy Reveals He Is Battling Dementia: ‘A Part of Me Always Knew This Was Coming’

David Cassidy is battling dementia.

The 66-year-old actor, widely known for his starring role as Keith Partridge on the 1970s series The Partridge Family, reveals to PEOPLE that he is fighting the memory loss disease.

Cassidy, who watched his grandfather battle the disease and witnessed his mother “disappear” into dementia until she died at age 89, tells PEOPLE of his diagnosis: “I was in denial, but a part of me always knew this was coming.”

Of his mother’s struggles, Cassidy recalls: “In the end, the only way I knew she recognized me is with one single tear that would drop from her eye every time I walked into the room. … I feared I would end up that way.”..





http://people.com/celebrity/david-cassidy-dementia/?xid=socialflow_facebook_peoplemag


 :'(


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 21, 2017, 07:44:20 AM
David Cassidy Reveals He Is Battling Dementia: ‘A Part of Me Always Knew This Was Coming’

Sad news.

There was a segment on the Today show this morning. He was interviewed, and he sounded terrible, poor guy, like he had a bad case of laryngitis when the interview was done.

Apparently Danny Bonaduce is being supportive. I haven't seen or heard anything from Shirley Jones.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on February 21, 2017, 08:04:02 AM
I thought it was sad, there had been footage at TMZ of him doing that concert  - and he did appear drunk.   I don't know why he would even try, other than he needs the money I guess.




    David Cassidy once had a bigger fan club than Elvis & the Beatles. If you're a fan, now is a great time to send him your love & best wishes.

    — Danny Bonaduce (@TheDoochMan) February 21, 2017



True once a fan, always a fan..
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: morrobay on March 04, 2017, 08:34:02 AM
M.A.S.H. is back...they're running it today on WGN until 11pm, and i've seen it on AMC on the weekend.  Still better than most current tv.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 04, 2017, 10:16:39 AM
^^^

They show that on the Me-TV retro channel ad infinitum. I notice it all the time.
Though it's always written about as being a huge favorite, I've never been around
people with those sentiments. I never watched it much myself.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: morrobay on March 04, 2017, 10:20:15 AM
^^^

 I never watched it much myself.

maybe you should
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 04, 2017, 10:22:10 AM
I remember when I was busy writing my master's thesis about the official policy of the State of Louisiana toward the Cajun French language over the years, putting things all together and getting very little sleep and not taking many breaks, but I did take time to watch M*A*S*H. It was so good.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 04, 2017, 10:44:17 AM
maybe you should

I watched it enough to know that it wasn't something that interested me very much
to make it a regular habit. I watched the entire season that year (1973-1974) it was
on Saturday nights, when CBS ran All in the Family, M*A*S*H, The Mary Tyler Moore
Show, The Bob Newhart Show and The Carol Burnett Show. All on Saturday night! The
networks don't even air any new shows on Saturday any more!

Then when critics would say a specific episode was fantastic, like the real-time one that
had a stopwatch in the corner counting down the time, or the one they filmed in b&w, I'd
catch those. And the series finale seemed to be required viewing. If I was interested I also
had some ample opportunities to rent each and every episode on VHS if I had wanted to, not
to mention I notice it all the time running on various channels. I even actually watched every
episode of AfterMASH and liked that better than the original. So, no thank you.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on March 04, 2017, 03:20:24 PM
Well  funny enough we watched an episode the other night, M*A*S*H was excellent, but I do know a lot of people who didn't watch it or just didn't like it, different strokes..


EMMY'S 14 Wins 109 Nominations - one of the highest-rated shows in U.S. television history.


 :)

This Visual Artist Breathes Color Into Your Favorite Black And White TV Shows


http://www.konbini.com/us/entertainment/visual-artist-colorizes-classic-black-and-white-tv-shows/


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 04, 2017, 04:08:09 PM
Interesting article with that guy's amazing colorizing. They look great,
though the two he likes most I really wouldn't consider at the top of the
list for coloring!

Computers are amazing tools. I am expecting someday they might be able to put, say, all of the I Love Lucy's
into a computer, both visual and audio, and manipulate the sound and photos to make entirely new episodes.
It's not far fetched, considering that's how they did all the visuals in Avatar, for example.

Quite fascinating.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 04, 2017, 04:47:20 PM
but I did take time to watch M*A*S*H. It was so good.

I was never a HUGE fan of the show,  but I did watch it when I could.  The acting was great, and the stories were always well done.  My fave character was Father Mulcahy.

I also loved when they showed a softer side to Major Houlihan.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 05, 2017, 12:54:25 PM
I watched it enough to know that it wasn't something that interested me very much
to make it a regular habit. I watched the entire season that year (1973-1974) it was
on Saturday nights, when CBS ran All in the Family, M*A*S*H, The Mary Tyler Moore
Show, The Bob Newhart Show and The Carol Burnett Show.
All on Saturday night! The
networks don't even air any new shows on Saturday any more!

I remember that lineup very well. I was 15 years old, and the M*A*S*H half hour was when I took my bath, so I wouldn't miss MTM, Bob Newhart, or Carol Burnett.  :D

(Just to explain. Family dynamics came into play there. I needed to go to bed right after Carol Burnett because I was expected to be up at 6 a.m. Sunday for an early church service.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on March 05, 2017, 01:33:09 PM
Hockey Night in Canada, that's all we got to see Saturday night.   Well until I got a boyfriend, but then he would come over and watch hockey with my DAD!  :laugh:


Hockey Night in Canada began airing on Saturday nights on CBC Television in 1952.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 05, 2017, 01:38:29 PM
^^^

 ;D

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 05, 2017, 01:45:13 PM

I looked up M*A*S*H to see how many episodes were made of that show.

There were 255 episodes, plus the finale, which they count separately.
That was on 11 years. Bewitched was on 8 years and did the same number
of episodes! They worked harder back in the day! (And got paid less.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 05, 2017, 03:24:43 PM
I was curious to see if anyone else looked at that "colorization" article link
and what you thought of the Munsters and Addams Family colorizing?
The guy doing the colorization is fantastic, but those two shows seem
like bad examples for him to start playing with, because, at least on the
surface, they seem quite better suited to b&w.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 05, 2017, 03:25:02 PM

(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/logopedia/images/f/fd/Laugh-in-logo.jpg)

I admit that what I am about to write will probably not be "verry interesting" to most of you because
I've never come across anyone who has been a continued fan of Laugh-In since it went off the air.

I have been a Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In fan ever since the first minute of it that I caught when it
came out in 1968. In 1983, they syndicated 1/2 hr. versions of the show by cutting various episodes
into half hour or two half hour versions, using mostly Seasons 1-3, but some of 4 & 5. None of Season 6.
There were 140 of them!  Any chance I got I've tried to record anything to do with it. When they were on
my local channel in 1983-84, I tried taping all of them and mostly got them, despite some NBA games that
ran long or started early. I even bought an hour VHS tape with out-takes and related things that were floating
around at the time. In 1993, a compilation episode was aired on NBC for the 25th anniversary, and did well
enough that in 1994 they did a Valentine's themed special and later on a Christmas/Holiday themed special.

Then in 2001 there was a cable channel called Trio, now defunct. The first 70 hour long episodes of the series
were aired in syndication on that channel, but the problem was hardly anyone in Los Angeles got that channel!
A customer where I worked who had that channel surprised me by taping a few cassettes of the show which I
treasured for many years. That was about 21 hour-long episodes. IN THAT DECADE, Rhino Home Video put out
two collections of hour-long episodes, totaling another 12 episodes.  Then, Guthy-Renker put out a mail order
collection of episodes where you could get two a month, for a total of 37 more episodes! So, I had about 70 hr.
long episodes in my collection. Plus the three compilation specials. None of my hour long episodes were from
Season 5 and Season 6, the last season was never syndicated in any form. The original producer, George Schlatter,
had nothing to do with the last season, there was a huge cast turnover, and it was not considered very good, at
least compared to the other seasons.  Schlatter did have the rights to all of the series, though, so the last season
was hidden away. There were 24 episodes. 8 were rerun and the rest of them not seen since they were first aired.
That was 45 years ago!

In December I was flipping past the year-old Decades retro channel and saw they were airing some Laugh-In episodes
That channel often airs a few episodes of shows during the week and that's it for them. They spotlight history and types
of things related to the exact day in question, so at first I didn't think too much about it, but I looked out for any shows
that I may not have.  Then I discovered that in January they were starting to air it from the beginning twice a day. I did
not know if they'd go past the 70 original syndicated hour long episodes or not, but they went all the way through season
four which was 92 episodes!  Then their schedule showed they were continuing all the way through Season 5, none of
which I had as whole hour long episodes. (I had 15 half-hour versions from that season.) They are in the middle of that
season right now, which I am recording!  The question then was, will they air Season 6? A season George Schlatter pretty
much indicated will never see the light of day? I only saw, at most, 3-5 of the last season. I went off to college and back
then students didn't even have phones in their rooms, much less a television, which a few did. The common areas often
had a TV, but there were TV nazi's controlling it most of the time and you often couldn't watch what you'd want to, nor
was it very comfortable to do so there anyway. So I have never seen almost the entirety of Season 6!  I just found out a
couple days ago that, yes, Decades will be showing Season 6 beginning a week from Tuesday! I am so very psyched to see
"new to me" episodes and more comedy from Lily Tomlin and some of the guest stars that only appeared in the 6th season
like Dyan Cannon, Charles Nelson Reilly, Paul Lynde, Bill Bixby, Jean Stapleton, James Caan, Mike Connors and many others!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 05, 2017, 04:44:20 PM
I was curious to see if anyone else looked at that "colorization" article link
and what you thought of the Munsters and Addams Family colorizing?
The guy doing the colorization is fantastic, but those two shows seem
like bad examples for him to start playing with, because, at least on the
surface, they seem quite better suited to b&w.

I think I would agree with you about that, Lyle. We never watched The Munsters, but we were big Addams Family fans, and I'd be inclined to agree with you that The Addams Family would be better suited to black and white. I imagine the "color palette" for The Addams Family wasn't very colorful to begin with.

I never seem to get around to adding The Addams Family to my Classic TV DVD collection. There are lots of other shows, too.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Pepe1 on March 06, 2017, 08:05:58 AM
I was curious to see if anyone else looked at that "colorization" article link
and what you thought of the Munsters and Addams Family colorizing?
The guy doing the colorization is fantastic, but those two shows seem
like bad examples for him to start playing with, because, at least on the
surface, they seem quite better suited to b&w.

I agree, the Munsters and the Adams family are dark, so why colourize them?   So many old shows that I would have loved to have seen in colour.


And so many of course that started their run in black and white and then finished in colour.


As for Laugh In, WOW had no idea there was that many episodes.   Funny I was in a record shop on the weekend (they probably don't even call them that) HMV (I think) was going out of business, so I went right to the classic TV section.   See what I could scope on DVD, everything was slashed in price and then had been slashed again, unfortunately it was all pretty picked over.

Would love to have gotten Laugh In, Ed Sullivan, the Dean Martin Roasts.

And you mentioned some place on here about all the episodes of Bewitched and how hard they worked back then - compared to the pay they got.

I mean first Darren died penniless.   I think of Friends and Seinfield and more recently Big Bang, a million an episode, it's obscene.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 19, 2017, 10:43:34 AM

Speaking of that guy colorizing scenes from The Addams Family, this is a photograph
taken of the set back in 1964 for a magazine.

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1474922/original.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 19, 2017, 11:51:16 AM

The Joey Bishop Show was on from from 1961 - 1965.  It's not aired much at all since it was on
and I remember vaguely watching it back then and liking Abby Dalton in it. I mentioned recently
that Antenna-TV started airing three episodes every Saturday night at some point. I haven't watched
in several weeks, but I did last night.

What I didn't realize is that the show had many guest stars on it. That's understandable considering
the show was mostly about people appearing on Joey Bishop's fictional talk show program, Joey Barnes
in the program.

Last night's three programs had Milton Berle, Jerry Lewis and to my great surprise and excitement, The
Andrews Sisters! After the middle episode, the third program was in b&w. I wondered if they had gone
back to the beginning as the first season was in b&w, but it also had Abby Dalton in it and she wasn't in
the first season.  So, afterwards, I looked up some information and found some pretty interesting things
concerning The Joey Bishop Show.

1.) The first season, as I mentioned, was different than the other three. He plays an employee of a public relations
firm and is single. It was a spin-off of an episode of Make Room for Daddy that aired the previous spring. In that
episode Joey's character was named Joey Mason, but when it became a series it was changed to Barnes. Joey Bishop
wanted he and his character to have the same initials. Several episodes included characters from the Make Room for
Daddy series. It was struggling in the ratings and NBC decided to revamp it a bit, eliminating a couple characters and
some crew people. It improved well enough that NBC renewed it for a second season.

2.) The first season had one episode filmed in color. (One other source says "at least two" were, but the episodes weren't
named.) Why one episode was filmed in color was not stated.

SIDEBAR: This was not unheard of. The sponsor, I believe it was Ford, of the first season of Hazel, wanted NBC to film the
show in color so they could showcase their new cars in color on the show. NBC didn't want to pay for that expense, though.
They did, however, film one first season episode in color. The plot of that episode was about Hazel wanting the Baxter's to
buy a new color TV set. The series was such a hit in the first season all subsequent seasons were shot in color. Also, Perry
Mason had been on CBS for a long time. In it's ninth season in 1965-66, the head of CBS was deciding if they would renew
it for a tenth season and he commissioned the producers of the series to film one episode in color so he could see what it
looked like. By 1967 all networks had changed all their programming to color. The real interesting thing to us L.A. history
buffs of this color Perry Mason episode, is that is has scenes filmed on L.A.'s original Angel's Flight in the soon to be destroyed
Bunker Hill section of Los Angeles, where so many 40's and 50's and some 60's film noirs were shot. The series was not renewed,
but subsequent to that, thirty television movies of Perry Mason were produced. (Most, if not all, of them happen to be airing on
the Decades TV channel this weekend!)

3.) Joey Bishop decided to revamp the series totally in Season 2 and he became the host of a New York City talk/variety
show. He also added Abby Dalton as his wife and supporting characters of a manager, head show writer, a maid and eventual
baby nurse, and the super of the apartment building. Because Joey hosted a show, this provided room for many many guest
celebrities to appear. People as diverse as Jack Benny, Bobby Rydell, the Dodgers and Barbara Stanwyck appeared.

4.) On November 14th or 15th of 1963, an episode was filmed that featured comedian and JFK impersonator Vaughn Meader. He had a huge
selling comedy record album called The First Family. This was a week before JFK's assassination. This event pretty much stopped Meader's
entire career and, for obvious reasons, the episode did not air when it was scheduled to be. The episode never did air on NBC or in syndication.
There are those who say an NBC executive ordered the episode destroyed, but no one seems to know anything confirming if prints of the show
were archived or destroyed. It's considered a lost episode.

5.) Which brings me back to my confusion last night about that b&w episode. I know of no other instance of this, but after the third season's
ratings slumped again, NBC decided not to renew the show. CBS decided to pick up the show for a 4th season, but, and this is what I find
unheard of...CBS decided to do that, but only if they (producers and Joey Bishop) were okay with it being filmed in b&w. Obviously, a money
issue. It's the only series I know of to have been in b&w, changed to color and then back to b&w!

6.) The first episode of the 4th season was even titled, "Joey Moves to CBS."  The plot involves his talk show being dropped and him subsequently
being hired for a new series at CBS. At first he and his group are disheartened about being fired/cancelled, then it moves to joy about being hired
for a new show and, ironically, it ends when they are all unhappy when they find out when his show will air--opposite ratings powerhouse Bonanza
on NBC! That is most assuredly why it got cancelled after that season.

7.) And one more interesting thing: One notable feature of the series was a considerable amount of ad-libbing and breaking up, and—unusual for
a filmed sitcom—much of it was left in. (In one episode, actor Joe Besser actually apologizes to Bishop for making him laugh with an off-the-cuff joke.)
Because of this, the show's studio audiences were audibly more responsive than those of other multi-camera comedies of the era.


Having revisited about 10 episodes from this show the past couple months, I can say that it does have a lot of humor that still works and holds up today.
The parade of famous faces also provides a lot of interest for those who know and or remember those stars of the past.  I see that at one time the
second season of the series was put on dvd.  That's 32 (or 34) episodes!

If the Andrews Sisters episode was on that season I'm sure I would get it soon, but I'm still thinking about it. The Andrews Sisters episode was the last
one of the 3rd season. Hence, the last color episode. I got to meet Patty Andrews once in the 1980's (or was it the early 90's?) and meeting one of the
famous "Andrews Sisters" just tickled me to no end and I still feel that way thinking about it!  I wish I'd recorded that episode last night!

Has anyone else watched this series on Antenna-TV, if you get it?

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 19, 2017, 03:53:23 PM
Speaking of that guy colorizing scenes from The Addams Family, this is a photograph
taken of the set back in 1964 for a magazine.

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1474922/original.jpg)

Oh, good Lord, that's hideous! Thank heavens they filmed in black and white!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 19, 2017, 03:57:13 PM
The Joey Bishop Show was on from from 1961 - 1965.  It's not aired much at all since it was on
and I remember vaguely watching it back then and liking Abby Dalton in it. I mentioned recently
that Antenna-TV started airing three episodes every Saturday night at some point. I haven't watched
in several weeks, but I did last night.

I have vague, vague memories of The Joey Bishop Show. I remember liking Abby Dalton, too. And I have a memory of the building superintendent not being able to pronounce "cinnamon bun,"  :D  but that's about it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 25, 2017, 10:43:11 AM
This morning's episode of Wagon Train was a riff on Great Expectations, adapted as a Western with a happy ending for all concerned. In a flashback at the beginning, narrated in voice over by Major Adams, a young boy (the Pip character) helps an escaped convict (the Magwitch character, played by the character actor Robert Middleton). Later, there is an old woman who had been left at the altar (the Miss Havisham character), and a young woman whom the Pip character loves (the Estella character, played by a young Louse Fletcher). And Frank DeKova, known for playing Chief Wild Eagle on F Troop, played an Indian chief here, too.  :D

Incidentally, this episode can actually be dated as to when the events supposedly occurred. In the opening voice over to the flashback, Major Adams says that the Pip character's story began in 1854. Later, there are several references to the "current" events of the story taking place 15 years after the beginning of the Pip character's story, which would make it 1869.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 26, 2017, 10:57:13 AM

That episode sounds really interesting, Jeff.  Great Expectations is one of my favorite
Dickens novels. I bet it worked really well in that setting!

Speaking of Dickens, I remember once watching a Bonanza episode on Me-TV a couple
years or more ago and it was about Dickens coming to town for one of his readings of his
work or something like that. I have forgotten the actual plot, but they cast Jonathan Harris,
famous for playing Zachary Smith on Lost in Space, as Dickens, which was amusing, but
also seemed very wrong.

I wonder if other shows used Dickens plots for inspiration, other than A Christmas Carol, which
is used regularly.  I personally like David Copperfield, too. I've never really liked Oliver Twist and
yet they keep remaking it more than the others for whatever reason. I like the music in the film
version, but I find the dialogue scenes a bore.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 26, 2017, 01:02:33 PM
That episode sounds really interesting, Jeff.  Great Expectations is one of my favorite
Dickens novels. I bet it worked really well in that setting!

It did work quite well, in my opinion.

Quote
Speaking of Dickens, I remember once watching a Bonanza episode on Me-TV a couple
years or more ago and it was about Dickens coming to town for one of his readings of his
work or something like that. I have forgotten the actual plot, but they cast Jonathan Harris,
famous for playing Zachary Smith on Lost in Space, as Dickens, which was amusing, but
also seemed very wrong.

It's funny, but I remember of that episode, with Jonathan Harris, but I can't recall if I ever actually saw it.

Quote
I wonder if other shows used Dickens plots for inspiration, other than A Christmas Carol, which
is used regularly.  I personally like David Copperfield, too. I've never really liked Oliver Twist and
yet they keep remaking it more than the others for whatever reason. I like the music in the film
version, but I find the dialogue scenes a bore.

One episode in Season Five of Daniel Boone rang a change on Oliver Twist. The episode was called Copperhead Izzy, and it concerned young Israel Boone getting mixed up with a gang of larcenous orphans. The Fagin character was played by Vincent Price!

I've never read Oliver Twist--or seen the movie. I like David Copperfield up to point. I think the character sketches are wonderful, but along about the middle, I think--it's been years since I read it--it turns a bit too melodramatic for my taste.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 01, 2017, 10:06:43 AM
In this morning's episode of Wagon Train, from 1960, the principal guest star was Elaine Stritch! She was so young-looking then I doubt I would have recognized her, but the voice was familiar, even though it wasn't as rough as it later became; it hadn't yet been affected by decades of booze and cigarettes.

I guess you would say a sort of secondary guest star was the character actor Elisha Cook, Jr. He was"Wilmer the gunsel" in The Maltese Falcon. I also remember him as a kind of crime boss called Ice Pick in Magnum, P.I.

It's odd to me to think of Elaine Stritch as a young actress, not quite an ingenue, but not too far past it. In my mind she's "the old broad" singing "Here's to the Ladies who Lunch." (I'm not being insulting referring to here as "the old broad." I once read an article--it may even have been her obituary--where she referred to herself as "an old broad.")
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 01, 2017, 10:43:24 AM

She did a lot more television than I had thought. And as far back as 1948.  She was also
a regular in several television series that only lasted one season. I can't imagine her in
Wagon Train.

I guess you would say a sort of secondary guest star was the character actor Elisha Cook, Jr.

I remember him in Steven Spielberg's film "1941."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 01, 2017, 01:27:46 PM
She did a lot more television than I had thought. And as far back as 1948.  She was also
a regular in several television series that only lasted one season.
I can't imagine her in
Wagon Train.

That's interesting! I'll have to look those up.

Quote
I remember him in Steven Spielberg's film "1941."

Never saw that one.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 02, 2017, 01:05:35 PM

Something I did not know!  Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In had it's own restaurants!

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Kg00Ll385nk/UPr2b_EEvyI/AAAAAAAAGak/wXfcokznu_M/s1600/laugh-in+restaurant.jpg)

I'd have wanted to go there if I had ever known one was near me at the time.  When I had discovered this tidbit
online I looked for pictures of one, inside and outside, but was unable to find anything. There was a napkin and
french fry bag from the place on eBay at one time. There are a couple people who wrote comments that said
they had been to one of them before and one guy who said he worked at one of them, but no one commented
on what it looked like, the decor or anything. Apparently there were a few in Florida and some in Michigan, but
where else I do not know. They must not have lasted very long because there were no national commercials for
them and, like I said, as big a fan as I was, I never heard of them. A Bippy Burger?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on April 02, 2017, 02:25:18 PM
New one on me too.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 02, 2017, 06:07:34 PM
Perhaps they were done in by the Flying Fickle Finger of Fate. ...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on April 02, 2017, 07:16:06 PM
LOL!!
:laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on April 06, 2017, 03:01:34 PM
Comedy Legend Don Rickles Dead At 90

The comedian and actor died of kidney failure at his Los Angeles home.

Comedy legend Don Rickles died after suffering kidney failure at his Los Angeles home on Thursday morning, his publicist Paul Shefrin announced. He was 90 years old.

The Emmy-Award winning comedian is survived by his wife of 52 years, Barbara, who was reportedly by his side at the time of his death, and his daughter, Mindy Mann. He would have turned 91 on May 8.


http://tinyurl.com/n8grx7u
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 24, 2017, 11:38:23 AM
Anybody know anything about Erin Moran's demise?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on April 24, 2017, 10:28:13 PM
Anybody know anything about Erin Moran's demise?

This is what Yahoo had to say about her death.

‘Happy Days’ Star Erin Moran Relied on a Feeding Tube to Stay Alive During Final Days Battling Stage 4 Cancer: Source

'Happy Days’ Erin Moran was fed through a GI tube at home with her mother-in-law, according to the coroner’s examination

Moran was receiving treatment for Stage 4 cancer, including a gastrointestinal tube in her throat to keep her alive during her final days, a law enforcement source tells PEOPLE.

The source, who asked to remain anonymous pending further details to be released by the Harrison County Sheriff’s Dept., said the coroner found a gastrointestinal tube during the examination, as well as “ample” evidence that the actress succumbed to Stage 4 cancer. The type of cancer was not immediately clear.

“It was indicative when they did the autopsy that she was receiving medical care,” the source tells PEOPLE. “There were no illicit substances or anything to suggest foul play.”

A GI tube is usually inserted into the stomach by a physician to give nutrients to patients who cannot feed themselves. It can also be used to remove fluids from the body.

Moran was pronounced dead on Saturday at the trailer Moran shared in rural New Salisbury, IN, with her husband’s mother, Donna Woods.

“To my knowledge, they had their own room,” the source tells PEOPLE.

Both Woods and Moran’s husband, Steven Fleischmann, have remained out of the public eye.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 07, 2017, 12:12:07 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JEFF!!!

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Sorry it is late!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 07, 2017, 01:08:07 PM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO A CLASSIC!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 07, 2017, 01:09:13 PM

“Mother of All Mothers’ Day Marathon”

Vote Now Through April 24 for Your Favorite Antenna TV Mom. Antenna TV has the mother
lode of… mothers! Celebrate Mother’s Day with your favorite TV Mom. Antenna TV, is holding
a viewer’s choice contest to vote which Antenna TV mom gets an all-day marathon on Mother’s Day!


THE CHOICES:

Florida Evans-  Good Times
Endora –  Bewitched
Mary Jenkins – 227
Gladys – My Mother, The Car
Elyse Keaton- Family Ties
Shirley Partridge –  The Partridge Family


GUESS WHO WON?

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 07, 2017, 03:17:34 PM
I can't even guess who won, but my favorite would be Shirley Partridge. Sorry, but I adore Shirley Jones. Always have, always will.

Endora is the original Monster-in-Law.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 08, 2017, 11:03:55 AM

Bewitched was the top vote getter.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2017, 11:58:18 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO A CLASSIC!

How long until I get my "Antique" license plate?  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2017, 12:06:33 PM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, JEFF!!!

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Sorry it is late!!

I think I should recognize him--he looks familiar--but I can't place him.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 08, 2017, 02:18:32 PM
I think I should recognize him--he looks familiar--but I can't place him.  :(


William Martin "Clu" Gulager (born November 16, 1928), is an American television and film actor and director, particularly noted for his co-starring role as William H. Bonney (Billy the Kid) in the 1960–1962 NBC television series The Tall Man and for his role as Emmett Ryker in another NBC western series, The Virginian.

He also appeared in Peter Bogdanovich's The Last Picture Show and the racing film Winning, with Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward. Gulager was the protagonist Burt Wilson in the cult horror film The Return of the Living Dead, starred in McQ with John Wayne, and in director Don Siegel's The Killers with Lee Marvin, Ronald Reagan and Angie Dickinson. Gulager's short film A Day with the Boys was nominated for the prestigious Palme d'Or for best short film at the 1969 Cannes Film Festival.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2017, 05:12:28 PM
William Martin "Clu" Gulager (born November 16, 1928).

Thanks. Tell you what, I thought that's who it looked like, but I don't remember him from when he was that young. My only memories of him are as sort of middle aged, at least with some gray in his hair.

If he's still living and lives till November, he will be 89 this year.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 09, 2017, 11:13:41 AM
Not only is he, Jeff, he's still working. He was in an independent film with Sarah Paulson
that was released last October titled Blue Jay. Sarah, if you don't know, has been winning
awards of late for her role as Marcia Clark in the O.J. mini-series.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 09, 2017, 11:21:09 AM
Sarah [Paulson], if you don't know, has been winning
awards of late for her role as Marcia Clark in the O.J. mini-series.

Yes, I did know that. Haven't seen the miniseries, though. I think I remember seeing her interviewed about that somewhere, probably the Today show.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 18, 2017, 12:58:45 PM

She was also in 12 Years a Slave.  Someone told me she didn't like playing such an
underwritten character who had no frame of reference except being a sad alienated
racist.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 18, 2017, 01:05:55 PM
How long until I get my "Antique" license plate?  :D

Maybe this plate instead:

(http://www.nascarcollectables.com/images/apparelimages/License_2001_JG_Looney_Tunes.jpg)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 18, 2017, 01:08:10 PM

Jeff, any interesting Wagon Train episodes you've watched lately?

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 18, 2017, 01:17:30 PM

I know you don't "get" GET-TV, Jeff, but you'd sure like checking out the
westerns they show.  Here's the current westerns they're airing. I've not
heard of half of them.

HONDO
FATHER MURPHY
LAREDO
NICHOLS
SHANE
THE QUEST

THE RESTLESS GUN
Saddle up with John Payne as nomadic gunslinger Vint Bonner, in this Civil War series that has rarely been seen since its original run.

A MAN CALLED SHENANDOAH
Starring WAGON TRAIN’s Robert Horton

THE TALL MAN
Stars cult favorite Clu Gulager as the legendary outlaw Billy the Kid, and Barry Sullivan as Kid’s friend and mentor, Sheriff Pat Garrett.

THE YOUNG RIDERS
A group of young Pony Express riders based at the Sweetwater Station in Nebraskan territory during the years leading up to the American Civil War.

WHISPERING SMITH
Stars Western icon and WWII hero Audie Murphy.

YANCY DERRINGER
Jack Mahoney stars in the title role of this American Western.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 18, 2017, 02:08:03 PM
Jeff, any interesting Wagon Train episodes you've watched lately?

Nothing particularly memorable. However, a few weeks ago there was an episode that uncharacteristically featured Bill Hawks (Terry Wilson) at the center of the plot, as he went in pursuit of a character played by Noah Beery, Jr. (later of The Rockford Files). Usually it was Major Adams or Flint McCullough at the center of the action.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 18, 2017, 02:23:19 PM
I know you don't "get" GET-TV, Jeff, but you'd sure like checking out the
westerns they show.  Here's the current westerns they're airing. I've not
heard of half of them.

HONDO
FATHER MURPHY
LAREDO
NICHOLS
SHANE
THE QUEST

THE RESTLESS GUN
Saddle up with John Payne as nomadic gunslinger Vint Bonner, in this Civil War series that has rarely been seen since its original run.

A MAN CALLED SHENANDOAH
Starring WAGON TRAIN’s Robert Horton

THE TALL MAN
Stars cult favorite Clu Gulager as the legendary outlaw Billy the Kid, and Barry Sullivan as Kid’s friend and mentor, Sheriff Pat Garrett.

THE YOUNG RIDERS
A group of young Pony Express riders based at the Sweetwater Station in Nebraskan territory during the years leading up to the American Civil War.

WHISPERING SMITH
Stars Western icon and WWII hero Audie Murphy.

YANCY DERRINGER
Jock Mahoney stars in the title role of this American Western.

I have heard of most of them, but in some cases I can't recall how.  :(  I don't recall Shane (only the movie). I think Whispering Smith might have been a movie, too, originally, but I haven't double checked. Hondo was based on a John Wayne movie. The Restless Gun I've never heard of, and I only recently heard of The Tall Man. How I know of Yancy Derringer I have no idea because I know I've never seen it.

If I could get out of bed early enough on a Saturday, Me-TV is running Have Gun, Will Travel and Maverick before Wagon Train.

I think I had a crush on handsome Peter Brown from Laredo, even before I knew what it was. He died not too long ago. He and Kent McCord from Adam-12 would have made a handsome couple.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 18, 2017, 02:58:37 PM
YANCY DERRINGER took place in New Orleans (supposedly), and we always had fun finding all the mistakes they made! True of most series that were located there.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 19, 2017, 12:21:16 PM
Nothing particularly memorable. However, a few weeks ago there was an episode that uncharacteristically featured Bill Hawks (Terry Wilson) at the center of the plot, as he went in pursuit of a character played by Noah Beery, Jr. (later of The Rockford Files). Usually it was Major Adams or Flint McCullough at the center of the action.

Wagon Train was a 90 minute show right?  Do you have any on dvd?  How long do they run without commercials?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 19, 2017, 12:42:54 PM
Wagon Train was a 90 minute show right? Do you have any on dvd?  How long do they run without commercials?

No, only for the 1963-1964 season, which was also in color, and then the show went back to an hour and also back to black-and-white.

I think I have all the Robert Horton seasons on DVD. I believe the show must have been released on DVD at least twice, because some of the seasons in my collection are in the usual-type containers, and some are in metal boxes with the top rounded to suggest the shape of a covered wagon top.

I've never thought to look on the DVDs or the containers for individual episode running times, or to time a show while I was watching it on DVD, but I bet there was "more show" in one hour than in a typical "one-hour" drama today.

I haven't watched any of the DVDs for some time now, I guess since I tried to watch the Lou Costello episode and the DVD wouldn't work right for at least that episode. Right now I'm pretty much contenting myself with the Saturday morning ME-TV broadcasts.

I'd like to see more of those old Westerns some day.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 19, 2017, 12:49:24 PM
If I could get out of bed early enough on a Saturday, Me-TV is running Have Gun, Will Travel and Maverick before Wagon Train.

I didn't know Me-TV was running Have Gun, WIll Travel, but you indicate it's on very early, so that would be why!

YANCY DERRINGER took place in New Orleans (supposedly), and we always had fun finding all the mistakes they made! True of most series that were located there.

Fritz, lol, supposedly!  Yancy does sound like a New Orleans name I'd say!

After 77 Sunset Strip was hugely popular they plugged the detective/city idea into three other shows: Hawaiian Eye,
Surfside 6 and Bourbon Street Beat.  (Like they still do with CSI's and Chicago _____.)

Recently, 77 Sunset Strip's been getting some airplay on the retro channels Me-TV and Decades.  Hawaiian Eye and Surfside 6
have gotten some exposure on the Warner Archive site...but Bourbon Street Beat (love that title) has not shown up at all, but
I'd like to give it a go sometime.  Maybe because it was only on one season, so probably wasn't syndicated at all, but it did have
lookers Van Williams and Richard Long.  Long went on to have a good run in The Big Valley. Van Williams never got a really long
lasting series, but he moved from New Orleans to Florida to star in Surfside-6 and even though it was one season, he's known for
The Green Hornet. (All of these shows had "lookers" by the way!)

77 Sunset Strip (1958-64) 206 episodes
Hawaiian Eye (1959-63) 134 episodes
Surfside-6 (1960-62) 74 episodes
Bourbon Street Beat (1959-60) 39 episodes

So, Fritz, did you ever see Bourbon Street Beat? What kind of theme song did it have?
The other three all have memorable ones.
___

The opening is on youtube, I just looked at it. Decent, but it didn't really catch me as anything special on first listen.
But it was interesting to see the credits!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDt62s54Tno

Lordy...that Van Williams...melting.




Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 19, 2017, 01:59:18 PM
I remember Bourbon Street Beat (and its name in syndication, NOPD), but I can't remember its theme song, unfortunately.

Yeah, not very memorable.

Always thought that Richard Long was very handsome.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 19, 2017, 02:06:35 PM
Ah, NOPD was an earlier series, I conflated the two!

http://ctva.biz/US/Crime/NOPD.htm

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 19, 2017, 03:14:50 PM
I remember Bourbon Street Beat (and its name in syndication, NOPD), but I can't remember its theme song, unfortunately.

Yeah, not very memorable.

Always thought that Richard Long was very handsome.



This is the introduction, but not sure it is the theme song.

https://youtu.be/PDt62s54Tno

Theme song.

http://www.televisiontunes.com/Bourbon_Street_Beat_-_2.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 19, 2017, 04:29:53 PM
Yeah, not that memorable a series, I'm afraid.

NCIS NO comes on a bit too late for me to watch, but what I have seen makes me think that it's reasonably accurate (though they can't get from Mobile to NO as quickly as they indicate). I'll chalk that up to dramatic license.

Early in the first season they walked by a cemetery on the West Bank where my grandparents are buried.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 20, 2017, 09:44:37 AM
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Nothing Sacred starred Kevin Anderson as a priest. It was criticized by some who saw its portrayal of church issues in the post Second Vatican Council era as favoring those with a more liberal view of the Council at the expense of those with a more conservative one. The show and its sponsors were targeted for boycotts by the Catholic League.

Despite promises that the show would air for at least one full season, after the failure of the program, ABC canceled its order for the final four episodes, and then canceled the series entirely after the March 14, 1998 episode (with four completed episodes left unaired).

The show won the Peabody Award, being described as "an honest portrayal of the complexity of faith in the modern era." It also won the 1998 Humanitas Prize for a sixty-minute television series as well as the Founder's Award from Viewers For Quality Television.


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 20, 2017, 10:52:31 AM

Religious shows, comedy or drama, aren't ever successful, are they?
Unless they deal in the fantasy type realm like Touched By an Angel
or Highway to Heaven.

For exactly that reason showcased above:

It was criticized [...] as favoring those with a more liberal view of the Council at the expense of those with a more conservative one. The show and its sponsors were targeted for boycotts by the Catholic League.

Even my saying "fantasy type" would probably get criticism.  Even a TV series of "Going My Way" couldn't
make it. Although I can't think of them, I recall some sitcoms that portrayed priests and rabbis that lasted
only a few episodes. If I recall, McClean Stevenson was in one of them. Even the very well reviewed series
Bridget Loves Bernie, which was about a Catholic marrying a Jew, didn't survive more than one season and
they tried to portray the differences as more cultural than religious. People get all riled up and look for offense
when religious subjects are broached. Too bad.

I saw Kevin Anderson play Joe Gillis in a production of the musical Sunset Blvd. with Patti Lupone.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 20, 2017, 11:10:39 AM

Wow!  This is something I never thought about because it didn't seem feasible!

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LAUGH-IN? I'M-IN!  All six seasons!  Coming Soon from Time-Life! 


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 21, 2017, 06:24:31 PM
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I don't remember Nothing Sacred, but I remember another, more recent, show that caused controversy and didn't last long: The Book of Daniel (2006), with Aidan Quinn as the Rev. Daniel Webster, an Episcopal priest, Ellen Burstyn as his bishop--and Garret Dillahunt as Jesus Christ (yes, the Jesus Christ). Christian Campbell played Rev. Webster's closeted Gay son.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 22, 2017, 12:39:17 PM
^^^

Now that you mention it, I recall that, too.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 22, 2017, 04:50:40 PM
I don't, but it sounds interesting!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 22, 2017, 04:53:16 PM
I don't, but it sounds interesting!

I liked it, but it caused so much controversy that it was pulled.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 22, 2017, 05:34:16 PM
Pretty much the same with Nothing Sacred.

One episode I remember was a young girl who helped at the church, and while she helped there, she got into a sexual relationship and was pregnant.   The older priests gave her the usual Catholic lines about sin, but she spoke to the young priest played by Anderson, and he told her she had to 'follow her heart' on this matter.

The uproar that took place after that episode was  huge.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 23, 2017, 07:10:42 AM
Now that you mention it, I recall that, too.

Back then, I sort of had a low-level thing for Aidan Quinn. Now that he and I are both ten years older  :D  not so much. But I like him in his role in Elementary, even though I don't watch the show anymore. (I've taken to watching DVDs on Sunday evenings instead of network shows.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 23, 2017, 09:48:20 AM


Yes, all the religious oriented shows cause controversy because people don't want
their religions to have controversy, they want it to be their sanctuary or place of
refuge, so they don't have to deal with anything negative. But television programs
need conflict; it's inherent they have to discuss these things. That's why, as I said
above somewhere, that shows like Touched by an Angel and Highway to Heaven
worked, as they were in the mode of not having to defend anything because the
characters were just in the mode of helping others see the light. The do gooders.
Actual problems involved in religious experience weren't touched by anyone.

That's what these new religious freedom bills popping up and supported by people
like Vice President Mike Pence are all about. People want to be free not to think
about the harmful aspects of their religions. Religions are the truth, aren't they,
and cannot be changed. So how can there be conflict with your "sincerely held
religious beliefs!  Sheesh.

I saw a show on the fall schedule for ABC called The Gospel of Kevin. Not sure what
type of show this will be, or if it has anything at all to do with religion. Anyone know?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 23, 2017, 09:51:48 AM
I was just remembering that in the late 1960's, comedian David Steinberg was censored
from The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour because he dared make humorous subject matter
from religious topics. There's a Smothers Brothers dvd with some of his censored material from
the show and comments by the Smothers Brothers and David Steinberg. It's really pretty tame
stuff and people got all riled up about it enough to get him banned.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 23, 2017, 11:08:42 AM
I was just remembering that in the late 1960's, comedian David Steinberg was censored
from The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour because he dared make humorous subject matter
from religious topics.

That's a name I haven't heard in a long time.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 31, 2017, 10:15:58 PM
Elena Verdugo, Emmy-Nominated Actress on ‘Marcus Welby, M.D.,’ Dies at 92

Elena Verdugo, who portrayed the devoted office assistant and nurse Consuelo Lopez opposite Robert Young on the 1970s ABC drama Marcus Welby, M.D., has died. She was 92.  Verdugo died Tuesday in Los Angeles.  Early in her career, Miss Gless had a recurring role as hospital worker Kathleen Faverty on Marcus Welby, M.D., and she and Verdugo had been extremely close ever since.

http://highlighthollywood.com/2017/05/elena-verdugo-emmy-nominated-actress-on-marcus-welby-m-d-dies-at-92/

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 01, 2017, 07:24:41 AM
Elena Verdugo, Emmy-Nominated Actress on ‘Marcus Welby, M.D.,’ Dies at 92

Elena Verdugo, who portrayed the devoted office assistant and nurse Consuelo Lopez opposite Robert Young on the 1970s ABC drama Marcus Welby, M.D., has died. She was 92.  Verdugo died Tuesday in Los Angeles.  Early in her career, Miss Gless had a recurring role as hospital worker Kathleen Faverty on Marcus Welby, M.D., and she and Verdugo had been extremely close ever since.

I presume that's Sharon Gless?

I remember Elena Verdugo from Marcus Welby. (I remember James Brolin better, but never mind!)

I've also recognized her in things she did before Marcus Welby, but in a kind of funny, reverse way. I saw her in reruns of things she did before Marcus Welby (small, supporting, one-shot roles), and I recognized her because I remembered her from Marcus Welby.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on June 01, 2017, 01:50:54 PM
(I remember James Brolin better, but never mind!)

Well of course, so do I!! 8)   ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 01, 2017, 02:06:09 PM
(I remember James Brolin better, but never mind!)

Well of course, so do I!! 8)   ;D

Back in the day, even though I didn't yet know my a-- from a hole in the ground, I thought he was the handsomest man on television (maybe even the handsomest I'd ever seen).

At the risk of angering some folks, I never got the appeal of that other TV doctor, Chad Everett, but James Brolin--oh, yeah!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 10, 2017, 11:08:30 AM
Adam West, Straight-Faced Star of TV's 'Batman,' Dies at 88

Adam West, the ardent actor who managed to keep his tongue in cheek while wearing the iconic cowl of the Caped Crusader on the classic 1960s series Batman, has died. He was 88.

West, who was at the pinnacle of pop culture after Batman debuted in January 1966, only to see his career fall victim to typecasting after the ABC show flamed out, died Friday night in Los Angeles after a short battle with leukemia, a family spokesperson said.

West died peacefully surrounded by his family and is survived by his wife Marcelle, six children, five grandchildren and two great-grandchildren.

“Our dad always saw himself as The Bright Knight and aspired to make a positive impact on his fans' lives. He was and always will be our hero,” his family said in a statement.

After struggling for years without a steady job, the good-natured actor reached a new level of fame when he accepted an offer to voice the mayor of Quahog — named Adam West; how’s that for a coincidence! — on Seth MacFarlane’s long-running Fox animated hit Family Guy.

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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/adam-west-dead-batman-star-832264
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on June 11, 2017, 12:39:22 PM
Sorry to hear this.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 11, 2017, 01:31:35 PM
Sorry to hear this.

Me, too.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on June 15, 2017, 04:00:31 PM

Yes, all the religious oriented shows cause controversy because people don't want
their religions to have controversy, they want it to be their sanctuary or place of
refuge, so they don't have to deal with anything negative. But television programs
need conflict; it's inherent they have to discuss these things. That's why, as I said
above somewhere, that shows like Touched by an Angel and Highway to Heaven
worked, as they were in the mode of not having to defend anything because the
characters were just in the mode of helping others see the light. The do gooders.
Actual problems involved in religious experience weren't touched by anyone.

That's what these new religious freedom bills popping up and supported by people
like Vice President Mike Pence are all about. People want to be free not to think
about the harmful aspects of their religions. Religions are the truth, aren't they,
and cannot be changed. So how can there be conflict with your "sincerely held
religious beliefs!  Sheesh.

I saw a show on the fall schedule for ABC called The Gospel of Kevin. Not sure what
type of show this will be, or if it has anything at all to do with religion. Anyone know?



Oprah Winfrey's television show "Greenleaf" (2016-) deals with an African-American family of fundamentalist Christians running a controversial megachurch empire, but I see your point. Religions do change, at least when it suits them or so it seems and I should know considering my religious history.  Those "religious freedom" bills have nothing to do with protecting people's rights to practice their religious beliefs as long as they aren't hurting anyone else at all as any reasonable person can tell. Just look at what Donald Trump is doing by imposing religious tests on immigrants who come to the U.S. from countries that function as Muslim theocracies.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on June 15, 2017, 04:08:25 PM
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Nothing Sacred starred Kevin Anderson as a priest. It was criticized by some who saw its portrayal of church issues in the post Second Vatican Council era as favoring those with a more liberal view of the Council at the expense of those with a more conservative one. The show and its sponsors were targeted for boycotts by the Catholic League.

Despite promises that the show would air for at least one full season, after the failure of the program, ABC canceled its order for the final four episodes, and then canceled the series entirely after the March 14, 1998 episode (with four completed episodes left unaired).



The show won the Peabody Award, being described as "an honest portrayal of the complexity of faith in the modern era." It also won the 1998 Humanitas Prize for a sixty-minute television series as well as the Founder's Award from Viewers For Quality Television.


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I didn't see this show.  I think from experience it is safe to say that the Roman Catholic Church as an institution is anything but liberal, although I do think there are a lot of liberal Roman Catholic individuals.  The Church complains over anything that doesn't portray the denomination in the most positive light and it discourages its members from viewing such material, that is just how it seems to me.  I think people should be able to watch whatever they want regardless of what some group says about a program.  When does the media ever portray religious subjects in a multi-dimensional way? Very rarely, if at all.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 08, 2017, 07:34:14 AM
This morning on Have Gun, Will Travel there was a young fellow who looked an awful lot like Robert Mitchum, but I was sure he was too young to be Mitchum. I watched the credits very carefully, and the last name listed was "Introducing James Mitchum." I guess that explains it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 08, 2017, 12:17:31 PM

James Mitchum and his father appeared together in the 1958 film THUNDER ROAD.

(Have Gun, Will Travel episode was 1962.)

So James was 16 in this photograph.

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 08, 2017, 12:18:00 PM

A screencap from the film. James looking exactly like his Dad.

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 08, 2017, 12:59:32 PM
A screencap from the film. James looking exactly like his Dad.

(http://www.rockshockpop.com/screencaps/ThunderRoad/09-1.jpg)

I guess Bob Mitchum couldn't blame James on the milkman. Right now, off the top of my head, I can't think of a father and soon who looked more alike. I'm sure there may be plenty; I just can't think of them.  ::)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 08, 2017, 02:35:53 PM

LOL @ the milk man!  I agree. Splitting image.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on July 16, 2017, 11:12:54 PM
The Oscar-Winning Actor Martin Landau Has Died Aged 89

(LOS ANGELES) — Martin Landau, the chameleon-like actor who gained fame as the crafty master of disguise in the 1960s TV show Mission: Impossible, then capped a long and versatile career with an Oscar for his poignant portrayal of aging horror movie star Bela Lugosi in 1994's Ed Wood, has died. He was 89.
Landau died Saturday of unexpected complications during a short stay at UCLA Medical Center, his publicist Dick Guttman said.


http://time.com/4860281/martin-landau-actor-died/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 27, 2017, 07:41:22 AM
June Foray has died, age 99.

Heard this on the TV news this morning.

If you have seen any number of cartoons over the past--I'm guessing--70 years or so, she was one of the most prolific "voice actors" of all time.

(Did they use that term in her heyday?)

I guess at 70 years because I suspect that cartoons with her voice are always running somewhere.

I thought this belonged in "Classic TV" because the cartoons on which she worked are classics.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on July 27, 2017, 03:07:35 PM
Darn. Yes, it definitely belongs here. R&B was a delightfully anarchic series, enjoyable by adults as well as kids.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 27, 2017, 05:45:51 PM
Here's a pic of June, surrounded by some of the characters she gave voice  to.


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 03, 2017, 12:16:27 PM

Recently, the past two years, I have been able to see some of those Warner
Brothers series that were popular in their day, but were never really syndicated
and not put out on video formats. They all involve the formula of handsome
private detectives solving cases. There's usually a lady involved in the series
somehow and a local person. Those shows are 77 Sunset Strip, Hawaiian Eye,
Bourbon Street Beat and Surfside 6.

One of them has been appearing on the Me-TV retro channel: 77 Sunset Strip.
I saw a few episodes of Hawaiian Eye a couple years ago, but I don't remember
the circumstances. I am looking in on a friend's pets this week while he is away
and yesterday I got to watch two episodes of Surfside 6 which are streaming
on his Warner Bros. archive app.

This one takes place in Miami Beach as the theme song tells you and stars
three good lookers who are, of course, bachelors: Troy Donahue, Van Williams
(who went on to play The Green Hornet), and Lee Patterson. The lady in the
series is Diane McBain. I've seen her name in many 1960's TV series credits.
The local color is played by Margarita Sierra, who often sings and dances in a
nightclub they frequent. (In Hawaiian Eye that person is Connie Stevens.)

In one episode I watched, the guest cast included many recognizable names:
Ted Knight, Robert Colbert (The Time Tunnel), Harold Stone, Mala Powers and
Donna Douglas, dressed to the nines and oh-so-sophisticated! I even recognized
an actor in it who played "Ted" in Mildred Pierce. He was the boy that Veda had
married so she could get it annulled and blackmail the family. That actor's name
is John Compton.

The more 1960's TV series I watch, the more Ted Knight keeps popping up in them.
I recall seeing him in shows like a few episodes of Combat! (always a German),
and he was in The Invaders, The Untouchables, The Virginian, Gunsmoke, McHale's
Navy, Twelve O'Clock High,  Bonanza, Gomer Pyle, The Fugitive, Get Smart and
The Wild, Wild West. Probably dozens more. He sure earned his success when he
was cast on the MTM Show.  But that role was so indelible that I always do a double
take when I see him in all those westerns and dramas!

In one of the Surfside 6 episodes I watched, Lee Patterson gets dressed up and asks how
he looks. The reply, "You're no Efrem Zimbalist." LOL!  (He was a lead on 77 Sunset Strip.)
In the same episode Troy Donohue is charming a lady who says to him, and when she says
it first you don't really understand what she's saying. She says, "ripe wheat."  "What?" says
Troy and the audience, too.  She says, "Your hair looks like ripe wheat." Later on she repeats
that in referring to him. LOL!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 03, 2017, 12:24:18 PM

I just looked up that actor John Compton. Mildred Pierce was his second role ever.
After that he had a lot of roles in movies and then TV series. It turns out that the
Surfside 6 episode I recognized him in was the next to last role he ever did. After
that he went into real estate, successfully.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 03, 2017, 01:42:14 PM
Recently, the past two years, I have been able to see some of those Warner
Brothers series that were popular in their day, but were never really syndicated
and not put out on video formats. They all involve the formula of handsome
private detectives solving cases. There's usually a lady involved in the series
somehow and a local person. Those shows are 77 Sunset Strip, Hawaiian Eye,
Bourbon Street Beat and Surfside 6.

Apparently as late as the '90s this formula still got trotted out every now and then. I wouldn't exactly call these shows "classic," but there was Riptide, 1984-1986 (Perry King, Joe Penny), and High Tide, 1994-1997 (Rick Springfield, Yannick Bisson), to name two I remember (looked 'em up to verify the memory).

Curious how both those shows involved hunks and boats.  :D  And neither lasted more than a few seasons.

Yannick Bisson is a French Canadian who, it seems, has done a lot more work in Canada than in the U.S., and, boy, is he a looker. My best friend loves his Canadian series The Murdoch Mysteries.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: morrobay on August 05, 2017, 06:10:15 PM
I never watched Miami Vice but I love Jan Hammer's music and used it countless times to try to combat my fear of flying  ...... fucking love Rum Cay

sorry: eta they're doing a remake

A reboot of classic cop drama “Miami Vice” is in the works at NBC, Variety has learned.

The project hails from the team behind the “The Fast and the Furious” franchise with Vin Diesel’s production company, One Race Television, teaming up with Chris Morgan Productions, which is headed by Chris Morgan. Morgan has written six of the “Fast & Furious” films to date. However, no executive producers have been locked in yet, as deals are still being hammered out.

One Race TV is under a deal at Universal Television, which is the studio behind the “Miami Vice” project.

Peter Macmanus will write the script, based on the original series. While executive producers haven’t been set, it’s more than likely Macmanus, Morgan, and Diesel will all serve as EPs, along with more staffers from One Race TV, and Chris Morgan Prods, including Ainsley Davies. Shana Waterman, head of TV for One Race, shepherded the project.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqUkpQQxwvU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqUkpQQxwvU)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 14, 2017, 11:36:55 AM

Well, it's worked for MacGyver and Hawaii Five-O, so Miami Vice could work, too, I guess.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 14, 2017, 12:04:43 PM
Well, it's worked for MacGyver and Hawaii Five-O, so Miami Vice could work, too, I guess.

They might have to tweak things a bit; that's what they did for Hawaii Five-O and MacGyver.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 24, 2017, 12:49:48 PM

I noticed that Me_TV's upcoming fall schedule has another western series I've not heard
of before that will air on Saturday mornings.  It's called Trackdown and aired 70 episodes
from 1957 - 1959.  It starred Robert Culp. The very short description:  "The adventures
of Texas Ranger Hoby Gilman."

Have you ever heard of that series before Jeff?  It also seems to me that Robert Culp really
had a long career and starred in many many series. His name keeps popping up in many
shows.  (I met him in the local grocery store once.)

I am glad that all of these retro channels can find these kinds of series and air them now.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 24, 2017, 06:43:59 PM
I noticed that Me_TV's upcoming fall schedule has another western series I've not heard
of before that will air on Saturday mornings.  It's called Trackdown and aired 70 episodes
from 1957 - 1959.  It starred Robert Culp. The very short description:  "The adventures
of Texas Ranger Hoby Gilman."

Have you ever heard of that series before Jeff?

I don't believe I have. Doesn't at all sound familiar.

There are Western series I'd like to see, like Cheyenne. Here I go again writing something without verifying first but I believe that starred Clint Walker, and maybe Robert Fuller?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on August 24, 2017, 08:56:05 PM
Debuting in 1955, "Cheyenne" made history as television's first hourlong western and introduced brawny actor Clint Walker to the world as the jack-of-all-trades loner Cheyenne Brodie. Raised by an American Indian tribe after the death of his parents, the physically imposing Cheyenne calls upon the many skills learned from his past as he wanders the Old West, finding action and adventure at every turn. Like many other productions during the Golden Age of Television, "Cheyenne" had its share of guest stars who would later become famous in their own right, including Rod Taylor, Dennis Hopper, George Kennedy, James Garner, Richard Crenna and Michael Landon.

First episode date: September 20, 1955
Final episode date: April 30, 1963
Cast: Clint Walker, Russ McCubbin


It's being shown on Satellite DISH Starz Encore Western channel.

Russ McCubbin - Actor and Stuntman - He was stunt double for Clint Walker. Russ was 6'5" tall. His big part was in "High Plains Drifter".

(http://www.setcelebs.com/images/russ-mccubbin-03.jpg)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 25, 2017, 07:09:49 AM
Debuting in 1955, "Cheyenne" made history as television's first hourlong western and introduced brawny actor Clint Walker to the world as the jack-of-all-trades loner Cheyenne Brodie. Raised by an American Indian tribe after the death of his parents, the physically imposing Cheyenne calls upon the many skills learned from his past as he wanders the Old West, finding action and adventure at every turn. Like many other productions during the Golden Age of Television, "Cheyenne" had its share of guest stars who would later become famous in their own right, including Rod Taylor, Dennis Hopper, George Kennedy, James Garner, Richard Crenna and Michael Landon.

First episode date: September 20, 1955
Final episode date: April 30, 1963
Cast: Clint Walker, Russ McCubbin

Thanks, Linda!

I say shows like that, with guest performers who later became stars in their own right, always give me what I call my "OMG moments."  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 25, 2017, 07:42:04 AM
I say shows like that, with guest performers who later became stars in their own right, always give me what I call my "OMG moments."  :D

If IMDb is correct, Walker is still alive at age 90.

I was mistaken about Robert Fuller. I just checked him out at IMDb also. Before his time on Wagon Train, Fuller starred in another Western called Laramie. And that's another Western I've only read about, have never seen, but would like to see. I should check out to see if any of these old shows are available on video, and at what price.

One of Fuller's costars on Laramie, though not for the full run of the show, was the great character actress Spring Byington.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 25, 2017, 11:05:42 AM

I happened to see an episode of Dennis the Menace where Spring Byington came
to Dennis' birthday party. She played herself in the episode. When I looked it up,
I discovered she was in a lot of TV series episodes, and ones we know, too, like
I Dream of Jeannie, Batman, The Flying Nun, Dr. Kildare and Mister Ed!


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 25, 2017, 11:36:29 AM
I happened to see an episode of Dennis the Menace where Spring Byington came
to Dennis' birthday party. She played herself in the episode. When I looked it up,
I discovered she was in a lot of TV series episodes, and ones we know, too, like
I Dream of Jeannie, Batman, The Flying Nun, Dr. Kildare and Mister Ed!

Somewhere, somehow, I saw those episodes of Dennis the Menace and The Flying Nun. I believe in the Dennis the Menace episode they made a point about her TV series, December Bride? My memory of the Flying Nun episode is that she played someone who was something like the head of the order of nuns.

I always think of her as Mrs. Kendrick, a sort of snobbish and proper Southern lady in Jezebel, and as the wife of the Governor General (?) of India in The Charge of the Light Brigade.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 25, 2017, 04:37:07 PM
I say shows like that, with guest performers who later became stars in their own right, always give me what I call my "OMG moments."  :D

I agree with ya.   I remember seeing Dirty Dancing, and not long after seeing a rerun of a M*A*S*H episode that had Patrick Swayze in it.  I was like "I know him!"   LOL
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 26, 2017, 04:32:51 PM
I agree with ya.   I remember seeing Dirty Dancing, and not long after seeing a rerun of a M*A*S*H episode that had Patrick Swayze in it.  I was like "I know him!"   LOL

Patrick Swayze did an episode M*A*S*H? OMG! :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 26, 2017, 05:28:15 PM
Patrick Swayze did an episode M*A*S*H? OMG! :laugh:


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on August 26, 2017, 08:25:30 PM
It's actually a sad storyline and a precursor to Patrick's own death.

In Post Op, there are only a few patients. One of them, B.J.'s patient, is named Lowry and neither B.J. or Hawkeye are sure whether he'll pull through. The one person certain he'll be okay is his best friend, Sturgis (Patrick Swayze), who is confident that his friend will live, despite Hawkeye and B.J.'s uncertainty.
Meanwhile, Col. Potter delivers what he thinks is good news to Father Mulcahy: Cardinal James Reardon is coming to visit the 4077th. Mulcahy is happy but sent into a panic when he learns that Reardon will be arriving in just two days! Mulcahy is terrified, and figures there's no way he can get everything ready in time.

Back in Post Op, B.J. prepares to give Lowry a pint of blood. Sturgis offers to donate it, since they have the same blood type. Hawkeye and B.J. agree and take some of his blood for tests.

Saturday night, things are swinging in the O Club, and Father Mulcahy is furious with everyone for their inability to stop drinking, fighting, and gambling for the two days leading up to Reardon's visit.

B.J. finds Hawkeye in the lab, telling him Lowry is stable enough for the transfusion. But Hawkeye has some terrible news: Sturgis has Leukemia. They debate what to do: B.J. thinks Sturgis should know, so he can "make the most out of the time he has left", but Hawkeye is concerned that it might "take the life right out of him."

After several blood tests, Sturgis starts to get suspicious--what's going on, he demands of Hawkeye. When Hawkeye calls him Gary, he begins to worry, and asks, "Is there something wrong with me?"

Hawkeye does his best to gently deliver the news. At the same time, he tells him directly that, if he does have the disease, "Your chances aren't too good." He then recommends that Sturgis be sent to Tokyo, where he can be examined more fully, and, since his disease is in the early stages, treatments can start immediately.

Meanwhile, Cardinal Reardon arrives, ahead of schedule. Father Mulcahy is of course nervous, but Reardon (Ray Middleton) is warm and friendly. He even asks if they can all get a drink in the Officers Club. Which they can't, after Igor stumbles out onto the compound and drunkenly passes out. Mulcahy is incensed, and he wanders into the Mess Tent, where he finds Hawkeye sitting alone. He complains about how everyone is making his life miserable. After ranting for a few moments, he asks whether Hawkeye is just going to sit there and say nothing?

Hawkeye tells him what he just had to do in Post Op, which brings Mulcahy back from his own problems. He heads off to Post Op to talk to Sturgis. The next morning, Hawkeye finds Father Mulcahy and Sturgis, who obviously stayed up all night talking. Sturgis seems much happier, even laughing out loud.

Sturgis asks to stick around for when his friend wakes up, but Hawkeye wants Sturgis to go to Tokyo so he can start treatment. Sturgis argues that its his life, he should be able to do with it what he wants. Hawkeye begins to argue, but Father Mulcahy interrupts him. He shows Hawkeye that Sturgis going off to Tokyo will make Hawkeye feel better, more than it will do for Sturgis. Hawkeye, seeing the light, agrees, and tells Sturgis he can stay as long as he likes.

Klinger finds Father Mulcahy, who is supposed to be in the Mess Tent to start the Sunday services, which Mulcahy completely forgot about. In his bathrobe, Mulcahy delivers a sermon about two men: one selfish, concerned only with himself; the other a man who makes a courageous gesture of friendship. Mulcahy breaks down, admitting the first man is himself. Cardinal Reardon gets up, hugs Mulcahy, and says, "You're a hard act to follow."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 09, 2017, 08:48:22 AM
A very young Clint Eastwood on Maverick this morning.  :)

I recognized him right away.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 09, 2017, 12:28:21 PM
And Leslie Neilsen on Wagon Train. I knew I knew the voice but it took me a while to place it because in the beginning he was a scruffy drunk.  :D  Once he cleaned up, i recognized him.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 16, 2017, 06:05:47 PM
I learned this morning that MeTV is now running Wagon Train at 4 p.m. weekdays as well as on Saturday mornings. It seems they are still running the show in order by original release date, because there were five episodes between the one I saw last Saturday and the one I saw this morning.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on September 21, 2017, 05:40:59 PM
Bernie Casey, Football Star Turned Actor, Poet and Painter, Dies at 78

Actor Bernie Casey, who appeared in such films as Boxcar Bertha, Never Say Never Again and Revenge of the Nerds after a career as a standout NFL wide receiver, has died. He was 78.  Casey, who also starred in Cleopatra Jones and several other blaxploitation movies of the 1970s, died Tuesday after a brief illness at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles.

http://highlighthollywood.com/2017/09/bernie-casey-football-star-turned-actor-poet-and-painter-dies-at-78/

(http://highlighthollywood.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/bernie-casey-300x200.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 23, 2017, 10:26:52 AM
MeTV seems to have gone back to the very beginnings of Wagon Train. The episode run this morning (Sat., 9/23), according to my episode guide, was the very second episode of the entire series, with Ricardo Montalban as the guest star. Original air date 9/25/1957 (eight months before I was born!  :laugh: ).
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 23, 2017, 10:59:47 AM

Does Me-TV air Wagon Train uncut, do you know, or are they edited for television?
 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 23, 2017, 11:01:22 AM

Another possibility is the process whereby they "imperceptibly" speed up the programs which allows a couple/few more minutes of the original to be shown.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 23, 2017, 12:31:07 PM
Does Me-TV air Wagon Train uncut, do you know, or are they edited for television?

Another possibility is the process whereby they "imperceptibly" speed up the programs which allows a couple/few more minutes of the original to be shown.

I suppose I have to answer, "I don't know," to the question about cutting or editing, and also, "I don't know," about speeding up the program. There didn't seem to be anything "choppy" or missing, or any kind of break in the continuity of the plot--any, "Wait, what happened?" kind of moment.

I suppose if I wanted to try to tell if there was any difference. I might watch an episode broadcast on MeTV and then immediately try to watch the same episode on DVD. I have the first five seasons in my library.

On the other hand, as regards the DVDs, when I once tried to watch an episode with Lou Costello on DVD, the disk wouldn't work right.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 23, 2017, 12:50:18 PM

I don't know a lot about Wagon Train, I liked the other 90 minute series The Virginian better, most likely because I liked Doug McClure. That series is being shown on Universal's retro channel COZI. They may have mentioned about his name, I don't know, but I was always intrigued by his character name in that show: Trampas.  Trampas?  Is that a name? If you look it up, most references to it say: Name made popular by Doug McClure on The Virginian." There's a spanish word, trampa, the plural of which is trampas, which means traps, but I don't know.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 23, 2017, 12:59:59 PM

I remember a short-lived TV series on NBC in 1969 or 1970, From a Bird's Eye View, about a couple of stewardesses, one of which was played by Millicent Martin. Wonder what it would be like to see that again? I remember one episode of it that was quite wild.

There was also a TV series in the 70's I missed because I was in college and it starred Shirley MacLaine. I'd like to see that because I like Shirley MacLaine. Not too long ago I saw the episode of The Carol Burnett Show that she guest starred on.

I recently discovered that BOTH of these short-lived series were put out on DVD by a company in Britain.  So, there's some remote chance I could see these again sometime. I'd need a region free DVD player or something, but at least it's a possibility if I wanted to really pursue it!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 24, 2017, 01:48:23 PM
I remember a short-lived TV series on NBC in 1969 or 1970, From a Bird's Eye View, about a couple of stewardesses, one of which was played by Millicent Martin. Wonder what it would be like to see that again? I remember one episode of it that was quite wild.

I remember that show!

Didn't they have supervisor named Mr. "Beechum" (of course, spelled Beauchamp)?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 25, 2017, 10:11:48 AM
^^^

You DO remember!  :o
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 25, 2017, 01:26:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gChuqpEyTyI
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 25, 2017, 02:07:00 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak2YK5d5lU4
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 25, 2017, 02:32:54 PM

I may have to watch that!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on September 25, 2017, 03:13:19 PM
The names Beecham and Campbell come from the same source.

French Beauchamp and Italian Campobello.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 25, 2017, 04:04:27 PM
Didn't they have a supervisor named Mr. "Beechum" (of course, spelled Beauchamp)?

^^^

You DO remember!  :o


 :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 26, 2017, 06:32:50 PM
This evening, I was double-checking something in the annual fall preview issue of TV Guide, and I came across something I'd missed before. It was a single-page article about what was, in my opinion, certainly one of the greatest TV lineups of all time: It was the Saturday night lineup on CBS that began in the fall of 1973:

8:00. All In The Family
8:30. M*A*S*H
9:00. The Mary Tyler Moore Show
9:30. The Bob Newhart Show
10:00. The Carol Burnett Show

I started high school in the fall of 1973, and this was the CBS Saturday night lineup of my high school years. My parents never had to worry about where I was on Saturday nights. I was on the sofa in the living room watching these shows.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on September 26, 2017, 07:43:49 PM
That was a great lineup of TV shows.

I remember over many days writing my master's thesis that year, the only interruption I made was to watch M*A*S*H!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 29, 2017, 11:29:45 AM

Jeff, I saw this WAGON TRAIN Quiz on the Me-TV website.

Let me know how you do.  I was awful. That I got any right at all was strictly a guess.

http://www.metv.com/quiz/youre-a-wagon-master-if-you-can-get-8-10-on-this-wagon-train-quiz

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 01, 2017, 04:18:54 PM
Jeff, I saw this WAGON TRAIN Quiz on the Me-TV website.

Let me know how you do.  I was awful. That I got any right at all was strictly a guess.

http://www.metv.com/quiz/youre-a-wagon-master-if-you-can-get-8-10-on-this-wagon-train-quiz

Well, how awful is awful? I only got 7 out of 10.

Spoiler Alert!

I didn't know the question about Cooper Smith's hat--but then I haven't seen any of the Cooper Smith episodes.
I also didn't know the year it became the most-watched show on TV.
I guess I confused my self over who wasn't a guest star because I recently saw this individual on Maverick. I think I commented on that in an earlier post.

I got the one about the episode titles correct by educated guess/process of elimination because I knew all the others were episode titles.

It would have been nice if they'd given an answer key. Or did I just miss it?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: morrobay on October 01, 2017, 04:28:46 PM
The correct answers are in bold after your guess shows as incorrect.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 01, 2017, 08:33:39 PM
The correct answers are in bold after your guess shows as incorrect.

I noticed some but not all--which I thought was odd. Must have had something to do with the size of the window I was using.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 02, 2017, 10:59:06 AM

I'd only gotten 2-3 correct, completely by guess.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 07, 2017, 08:12:22 AM
OMG! Troy Donahue on Maverick this morning! As I write this I haven't seen the credits for the episode, but there's no mistaking him.

Hubba hubba!  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 09, 2017, 10:30:30 AM

Did you know that the infamous Hollywood Agent, Henry Willson, tried to get several other actors
to use the name Troy Donahue, but for one reason or another they didn't want to. I guess they were
waiting for the real one!   ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 12, 2017, 10:54:02 AM
Did you know that the infamous Hollywood Agent, Henry Willson, tried to get several other actors
to use the name Troy Donahue, but for one reason or another they didn't want to. I guess they were
waiting for the real one!   ;D

At home (I'm writing this from work) I've got a whole list of his hunky discoveries. (I don't remember where I found that list.)

Just a few from memory:

My guy Guy Madison
Madison's good buddy Rory Calhoun
Chad Everett (that one surprised me; I didn't realize he "went back that far."

I should check my list at home.

Edit to Add:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Willson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Willson)

I took time at lunch to look him up on Wikipedia.

Since he was born in Lansdowne, Pennsylvania (near Philadelphia), I probably first heard of him in some Gay History Month article in the Philadelphia Gay News. The gang's all here.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 13, 2017, 09:56:25 AM

The book about him makes him seem like he could've been a gay Harvey Weinstein.
Although, Ann Miller used to say that about Louis B. Mayer. She said she refused to
have anymeetings with him unless her mother came along.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 13, 2017, 10:25:47 AM
The book about him makes him seem like he could've been a gay Harvey Weinstein.

According to that Wikipedia article about him, he was.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 13, 2017, 12:03:18 PM
After all these posts about Henry Willson, I decided to have a look at the Wikipedia entry for Sal Mineo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sal_Mineo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sal_Mineo)

The only thing that really surprised me is that he was said to have had an affair with Bobby Sherman. Sherman's Wikipedia entry says nothing about that.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 14, 2017, 10:10:51 AM

Well, wouldn't you?  Heh!

(Was that entry sourced?)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 14, 2017, 12:54:04 PM
Well, wouldn't you?  Heh!

Maybe, maybe not.

Quote
(Was that entry sourced?)

Can't say. I don't look at the notes. I'm sure there wasn't a footnote number right next to the statement.

At least I'm pretty sure.

But if you read it on the Internet it has to be true!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 27, 2017, 08:19:49 AM
I'm still on vacation here, so this morning I caught part of an episode of Perry Mason on MeTV. I didn't catch the closing credits, but in a supporting role I recognized Victor Buono immediately.

I'm really sorry I missed those credits because I'm convinced I also noticed, in a supporting role, the legendary Lillian Gish!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 27, 2017, 12:04:29 PM
I'm still on vacation here, so this morning I caught part of an episode of Perry Mason on MeTV. I didn't catch the closing credits, but in a supporting role I recognized Victor Buono immediately. I'm really sorry I missed those credits because I'm convinced I also noticed, in a supporting role, the legendary Lillian Gish!


Jeff, do you know which one of these episodes you saw?  Victor Buono appeared in all of them.

- The Case of the Absent Artist (1962) ... Alexander Glovatski
- The Case of the Simple Simon (1964) ... John Sylvester Fossette
- The Case of the Grinning Gorilla (1965) ... Nathon Fallon
- The Case of the Twice Told Twist (1966) ... Ben Huggins

Going by titles only, I'd choose to watch the "Twice Told Twist" one.

I tried looking up Lillian Gish in relation to the series, but I didn't find any listing for her in any episodes.
However, I did find out that Erle Stanley Gardner, author of the Perry Mason series, was an 8th cousin
to Lillian Gish.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 27, 2017, 12:05:21 PM

Jeff, did you happen to watch L&O: SVU this week? With Brooke Shields playing a grandmother!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on October 27, 2017, 05:34:40 PM
I'm still on vacation here, so this morning I caught part of an episode of Perry Mason on MeTV. I didn't catch the closing credits, but in a supporting role I recognized Victor Buono immediately.

I'm really sorry I missed those credits because I'm convinced I also noticed, in a supporting role, the legendary Lillian Gish!

Jeff, do you know which one of these episodes you saw?  Victor Buono appeared in all of them.

- The Case of the Absent Artist (1962) ... Alexander Glovatski
- The Case of the Simple Simon (1964) ... John Sylvester Fossette
- The Case of the Grinning Gorilla (1965) ... Nathon Fallon
- The Case of the Twice Told Twist (1966) ... Ben Huggins


According to the MeTV website, the episode today was The Case of the Absent Artist.   IMDB has the cast list.



Raymond Burr   ...   Perry Mason
Barbara Hale   ...   Della Street
William Hopper   ...   Paul Drake
Ray Collins   ...   Lt. Tragg (credit only)
Zasu Pitts      ...   Daphne Whilom
Mark Roberts   ...   Otto Gervaert / Gabe Phillips
Richard Erdman   ...   Charles (Monty) Montrose
Victor Buono   ...   Alexander Glovatski
Jay Barney   ...   Prosecutor Harry Clark
Wesley Lau   ...   Lt. Andy Anderson
Arlene Martel   ...   Fiona Cregan (as Arline Sax)
Wynn Pearce   ...   Pete Manders (as Wynne Pearce)
Pamela Curran   ...   Leslie Lawrence
Carl Don      ...   Myer
Lane Bradford   ...   Det. Arnold Buck
Bill Zuckert   ...   Judge
Barney Phillips   ...   Newburgh
Mabel Rea      ...   Girl
Patrick Waltz   ...   Court Clerk
Wes Bishop   ...   Agnew
Marshall Kent   ...   Man
Ann Staunton   ...   Woman
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 27, 2017, 08:49:17 PM

According to the MeTV website, the episode today was The Case of the Absent Artist.   IMDB has the cast list.



Raymond Burr   ...   Perry Mason
Barbara Hale   ...   Della Street
William Hopper   ...   Paul Drake
Ray Collins   ...   Lt. Tragg (credit only)
Zasu Pitts      ...   Daphne Whilom
Mark Roberts   ...   Otto Gervaert / Gabe Phillips
Richard Erdman   ...   Charles (Monty) Montrose
Victor Buono   ...   Alexander Glovatski
Jay Barney   ...   Prosecutor Harry Clark
Wesley Lau   ...   Lt. Andy Anderson
Arlene Martel   ...   Fiona Cregan (as Arline Sax)
Wynn Pearce   ...   Pete Manders (as Wynne Pearce)
Pamela Curran   ...   Leslie Lawrence
Carl Don      ...   Myer
Lane Bradford   ...   Det. Arnold Buck
Bill Zuckert   ...   Judge
Barney Phillips   ...   Newburgh
Mabel Rea      ...   Girl
Patrick Waltz   ...   Court Clerk
Wes Bishop   ...   Agnew
Marshall Kent   ...   Man
Ann Staunton   ...   Woman

Thanks, Chuck. That's who it was--Zasu Pitts.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 27, 2017, 08:51:48 PM
Jeff, did you happen to watch L&O: SVU this week? With Brooke Shields playing a grandmother!

No, I was on vacation and I didn't see it. At that time on Wednesday I was enjoying a good meal in a nice restaurant in Provincetown.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on October 27, 2017, 08:54:03 PM
Thanks, Chuck. That's who it was--Zasu Pitts.

You're welcome!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 28, 2017, 10:27:33 AM
No, I was on vacation and I didn't see it. At that time on Wednesday I was enjoying a good meal in a nice restaurant in Provincetown.

Sounds lovely!  Enjoy!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 29, 2017, 03:43:51 PM
Sounds lovely!  Enjoy!

I did, thanks. By the time I responded to your question, I was already back home. No laptop or other newfangled device here.  ;D

Meanwhile, I understand tonight is the annual broadcast of It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown.  ;D

I never miss it, and if I do, I've got it on DVD.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 04, 2017, 10:00:41 AM
Why is it that in Westerns, when a bandage is needed, women always tear strips off their petticoats?  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 04, 2017, 10:06:21 AM

   :)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 04, 2017, 11:46:48 AM
would you rather they rip up their bras?   :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 10, 2017, 07:41:08 AM
Heard this morning that John Hillerman has died at age 84.

A native Texan, he would be best known for his role, in Magnum, P.I., as Jonathan Quayle Higgins, the Englishman in charge of Robin's Nest, the Hawaiian estate where Thomas Magnum was more-or-less a permanent guest--at times to Higgins' distinct annoyance.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on November 10, 2017, 12:09:03 PM
And there was considerable speculation at the time that the character was the actual owner of the place.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 10, 2017, 12:26:03 PM
And there was considerable speculation at the time that the character was the actual owner of the place.

Magnum became convinced that Higgins was really Robin Masters (despite the fact that Orson Welles was the voice of Robin Masters on the telephone).
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 18, 2017, 08:21:06 AM
Today I caught an episode of Have Gun, Will Travel. The guest star was Strother Martin. At first I didn't recognize him; I think of Strother Martin as he appeared in Butch Cassiday and the Sundance Kid, and in the Have Gun episode he was at least 10 years younger if not more. The voice, however, was unmistakable. I made a point to watch the closing credits, and, indeed, it was him.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 18, 2017, 10:34:34 AM

I do wonder where the name "Strother" came from.

He has one of the most famous lines of dialogue in films, at least from the 1960's.
It was parodied on many a sitcom and variety show of the day and you'll still hear
people say it:

"What we have here...is a failure to communicate."
From Cool Hand Luke. OMG, that film was released
fifty years ago this month. How is it possible that
"Cool Hand Luke" is fifty years old?

His distinctive voice and delivery made him a sought after character actor and he appeared in
dozens of films and TV series (11 episodes of Gunsmoke, Jeff) of all kinds, including a memorable
turn on Gilligan's Island! He played a radio reality show contestant sent to a "deserted" island to
"Take a Dare."

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 18, 2017, 02:42:25 PM
I do wonder where the name "Strother" came from.

Surname of some old relative or family friend, maybe?

Quote
"What we have here...is a failure to communicate."

Know it well, have heard it used often, used it myself, too!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 18, 2017, 02:44:27 PM
Then, in the episode of Wagon Train that aired this morning, guest star was Virginia Mayo, but among the supporting players was none other than "the Professor" himself, Russell Johnson.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 18, 2017, 03:23:10 PM
From what I've seen online, Russell was in a few westerns.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on November 25, 2017, 06:50:09 PM
Peter Baldwin, an actor turned prolific Emmy-winning TV director with credits including The Mary Tyler Moore Show, Sanford and Son, Murphy Brown and The Wonder Years, has died. He was 86.

http://highlighthollywood.com/2017/11/peter-baldwin-actor-and-emmy-winning-tv-director-dies-at-86/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 29, 2017, 10:00:27 AM
Last evening was the annual broadcast of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.  :D

Grew up with it. Wouldn't miss it for the world.

Seriously, when you consider that this was made with stop-motion decades before anybody probably even dreamed of CGI, I think it was quite an accomplishment. As I watched last night, I found myself wondering how they made the change in facial expression and mouth movement. Did each of those changes require a separate shot?

I also should hunt around to see if they ever released a sound track of the songs. Some of them might seem a bit kitschy now, but I think "Silver and Gold" is quite nice, and "Holly, Jolly Christmas" is quite cheerful.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on November 29, 2017, 11:14:16 AM
You can get it on Amazon, Jeff.

https://www.amazon.com/Rudolph-Red-Nosed-Reindeer-Burl-Ives/dp/B000002QUV

Or I bet you could get it at WalMart.com or Target.com or if you don't want to order online, I bet it will be available at either of those stores. I have a copy and I originally found it at WalMart.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 29, 2017, 11:52:38 AM
You can get it on Amazon, Jeff.

https://www.amazon.com/Rudolph-Red-Nosed-Reindeer-Burl-Ives/dp/B000002QUV

Or I bet you could get it at WalMart.com or Target.com or if you don't want to order online, I bet it will be available at either of those stores. I have a copy and I originally found it at WalMart.

Thanks for the tip, Linda!

I already have A Charlie Brown Christmas (show on DVD, sound track on CD), which I believe airs tomorrow night.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on November 30, 2017, 07:52:18 PM
Jim Nabors, 87, TV’s Gomer Pyle, Is Dead

Jim Nabors, a comic actor who found fame in the role of the amiable bumpkin Gomer Pyle in two hit television shows of the 1960s while pursuing a second career as a popular singer with a booming baritone voice, died on Thursday at his home in Honolulu. He was 87.

His husband, Stan Cadwallader, confirmed the death. He said that Mr. Nabors’s health had been declining for a year and that his immune system had been suppressed since he underwent a liver transplant in 1994.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/obituaries/jim-nabors-87-tvs-gomer-pyle-is-dead.html

RIP Jim Nabors
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on November 30, 2017, 07:57:21 PM
Really enjoyed his comedic acting, and his beautiful singing.

Eternal rest grant unto him, and let perpetual light shine upon him.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on November 30, 2017, 08:07:51 PM
A medly with Carol Burnett.

https://youtu.be/i-cXessab-I
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on November 30, 2017, 08:16:17 PM
Silent Night by Jim Nabors

https://youtu.be/yoQW6S4rRKg
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 01, 2017, 05:38:36 PM
You would never think that the guy who said "Goooollllllleeee" would sound like that when he sang.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on December 01, 2017, 06:57:43 PM
A character on the Jackie Gleason Show, Frank Fontaine, did roughly the same thing, playing in this case an inebriated individual in Gleason's Joe the Bartender sketch, itself a takeoff on Duffy's Tavern from radio days, who toward the end broke out in song.

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On The Jackie Gleason Show, he played the always-inebriated character "Crazy Guggenheim" during Gleason's "Joe the Bartender" skits. His trademark was a bug-eyed grin and the same silly laugh he had done on Jack Benny's radio show. At the end of his Guggenheim sketch, he would usually sing a song, demonstrating a surprisingly strong baritone voice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Fontaine

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 03, 2017, 07:27:50 PM
You talk about your classic TV! Nothing beats Carol Burnett. Watching her anniversary show right now. Where do you even start to talk about The Carol Burnett Show? I couldn't even begin. ...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 04, 2017, 10:41:00 AM
You talk about your classic TV! Nothing beats Carol Burnett. Watching her anniversary show right now. Where do you even start to talk about The Carol Burnett Show? I couldn't even begin. ...

It seems to me that Harvey Korman and Tim Conway worked so well together they almost should be considered a team.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 04, 2017, 11:39:02 AM

I forgot about that special last night. I hope I can find it on a streaming service or something.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 04, 2017, 02:28:29 PM
I forgot about that special last night. I hope I can find it on a streaming service or something.

I hope you can. Not to spoil anything, but Bob Mackie was there, too. Talk about genius! Carol mentioned the huge number of costumes he had to design each week.

And the people who made the costumes, or pulled them together, or whatever, are really unsung heroes of that show.

Mackie is still good looking, too.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 05, 2017, 11:17:25 AM

I watched the special on CBS's online website last night. It was done really well to keep your interest and not rehash too much of what's already been done over the years in terms of Carol Burnett. It made me want to watch the shows again!

I was fortunate to see two Carol Burnett Shows taped from her last season in 1977, which wasn't the best one, because Harvey Korman had left and Dick Van Dyke and Carol just did not have the best chemistry together. Dick Van Dyke realized that and offered to leave after a couple months and was right to do so. I noticed he was in one of the clips they showed from Mama's Family, but they never even acknowledged him on the special at all. Frankly, I have racked my brain over the years several times and I can't even recall what songs or sketches or much of anything from the two I saw taped. The only thing I recall is they did a movie parody called Fran Sancisco. But I am so happy to have done this at all.

Over the years I have seen her in some other things. I saw her in two musicals; Company was one of them, and I saw a taping of one of her CBS specials in the 1990's. I also saw her very early one Saturday morning in the Century City Shopping Center buying a gift for someone in the Crate & Barrel store. She was talking to a clerk about having it shipped somewhere.  Ordinarily, I probably wouldn't remember exactly when something like that took place, but I do remember because it was the Saturday right before 9/11.

Additionally, my friend who is currently working at a restaurant in Beverly Hills, tells me that she comes into his place often and is always very very nice. (As one might think or hope.)

Something concerning the 50th Anniversary special...for one, I was surprised to hear that Harry Connick was born on the very day her first show premiered,  9/11/67!  Which was also surprising because that means, and I can't believe it, that Harry Connick is 50 years old.

The other thing is that for a couple years I have been watching episodes of the 17 year long CBS series of What's My Line?, which, coincidentally, ran from 1950-1967 and the last episode aired a week before Carol Burnett's show premiered.  All known and existing episodes, totaling near 500, are available to watch. Carol Burnett was a mystery guest a couple times. What I wanted to say is that a guest panelist on quite a few shows was Steve Lawrence, and I was getting to like him more and more from these episodes. Being these shows were on 50 and more years ago, you sometimes wonder things like if the people are still around etc., but I was afraid to look anything up about Steve Lawrence because I just didn't want to be sad if it was some bad news or something, so I was thrilled to see him make an appearance on the segment they did from the theater where Carol appeared on The Garry Moore Show. And he still looks pretty good or else had a great make-up person! Heh!  I also loved the clip of him as Bogart in The African Queen. He was so funny. From one of the What's My Line? episodes I learned that Steve Lawrence had his own variety show in the mid-60's, but for who knows how many reasons, it didn't catch on or last.  I believe Carol Burnett said on the special he did 19 episodes of her show.

I did look him up just now. Steve Lawrence is 82 years old!  I thought he looked better than Lyle Waggoner did. Waggoner is also 82! Carol Burnett is 84. Vicki Lawrence is 68!  I guess it's to be expected on a 50th Anniversary, but, sheesh, I'm feeling old.

Since I just thought of it, I'll keep rambling.  This weekend on the Antenna-TV channel, which shows Johnny Carson episodes, they aired a 90 minute episode from December of 1972. Bob Hope was a guest touting his Christmas special and Carol Burnett was also a guest, touting her special of "Once Upon a Mattress." Johnny asked her if she kept things like her old scripts and such because he had just been going through a box of old scripts and things that he'd performed on, and he said he came across a sketch that he and Carol had done on The Garry Moore Show and Carol remembered doing it with him. It was a "Gone with the Wind" sketch where she played Scarlett and Carson played Rhett! This Carson show was before she famously played Scarlett again on her own series which is always highlighted.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 05, 2017, 12:48:25 PM
Over the years I have seen her in some other things. I saw her in two musicals; Company was one of them, and I saw a taping of one of her CBS specials in the 1990's.

It's not exactly "Classic TV," but Carol Burnett made three appearances on Hawaii Five-O, one each in 2013, 2014, and 2016, playing Alex O'Loughlin's Aunt Deb McGarrett. In the 2014 appearance, Aunt Deb married an old mobster, who was played by none other than Frankie Valli!

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Something concerning the 50th Anniversary special...for one, I was surprised to hear that Harry Connick was born on the very day her first show premiered,  9/11/67!  Which was also surprising because that means, and I can't believe it, that Harry Connick is 50 years old.

IMO he's starting to look it. It looked to me like he's getting a double chin.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on December 05, 2017, 01:46:19 PM
I watched the special on CBS's online website last night. It was done really well to keep your interest and not rehash too much of what's already been done over the years in terms of Carol Burnett. It made me want to watch the shows again!

I was fortunate to see two Carol Burnett Shows taped from her last season in 1977, which wasn't the best one, because Harvey Korman had left and Dick Van Dyke and Carol just did not have the best chemistry together. Dick Van Dyke realized that and offered to leave after a couple months and was right to do so. I noticed he was in one of the clips they showed from Mama's Family, but they never even acknowledged him on the special at all. Frankly, I have racked my brain over the years several times and I can't even recall what songs or sketches or much of anything from the two I saw taped. The only thing I recall is they did a movie parody called Fran Sancisco. But I am so happy to have done this at all.

Over the years I have seen her in some other things. I saw her in two musicals; Company was one of them, and I saw a taping of one of her CBS specials in the 1990's. I also saw her very early one Saturday morning in the Century City Shopping Center buying a gift for someone in the Crate & Barrel store. She was talking to a clerk about having it shipped somewhere.  Ordinarily, I probably wouldn't remember exactly when something like that took place, but I do remember because it was the Saturday right before 9/11.

Additionally, my friend who is currently working at a restaurant in Beverly Hills, tells me that she comes into his place often and is always very very nice. (As one might think or hope.)

Something concerning the 50th Anniversary special...for one, I was surprised to hear that Harry Connick was born on the very day her first show premiered,  9/11/67!  Which was also surprising because that means, and I can't believe it, that Harry Connick is 50 years old.

The other thing is that for a couple years I have been watching episodes of the 17 year long CBS series of What's My Line?, which, coincidentally, ran from 1950-1967 and the last episode aired a week before Carol Burnett's show premiered.  All known and existing episodes, totaling near 500, are available to watch. Carol Burnett was a mystery guest a couple times. What I wanted to say is that a guest panelist on quite a few shows was Steve Lawrence, and I was getting to like him more and more from these episodes. Being these shows were on 50 and more years ago, you sometimes wonder things like if the people are still around etc., but I was afraid to look anything up about Steve Lawrence because I just didn't want to be sad if it was some bad news or something, so I was thrilled to see him make an appearance on the segment they did from the theater where Carol appeared on The Garry Moore Show. And he still looks pretty good or else had a great make-up person! Heh!  I also loved the clip of him as Bogart in The African Queen. He was so funny. From one of the What's My Line? episodes I learned that Steve Lawrence had his own variety show in the mid-60's, but for who knows how many reasons, it didn't catch on or last.  I believe Carol Burnett said on the special he did 19 episodes of her show.

I did look him up just now. Steve Lawrence is 82 years old!  I thought he looked better than Lyle Waggoner did. Waggoner is also 82! Carol Burnett is 84. Vicki Lawrence is 68!  I guess it's to be expected on a 50th Anniversary, but, sheesh, I'm feeling old.

Since I just thought of it, I'll keep rambling.  This weekend on the Antenna-TV channel, which shows Johnny Carson episodes, they aired a 90 minute episode from December of 1972. Bob Hope was a guest touting his Christmas special and Carol Burnett was also a guest, touting her special of "Once Upon a Mattress." Johnny asked her if she kept things like her old scripts and such because he had just been going through a box of old scripts and things that he'd performed on, and he said he came across a sketch that he and Carol had done on The Garry Moore Show and Carol remembered doing it with him. It was a "Gone with the Wind" sketch where she played Scarlett and Carson played Rhett! This Carson show was before she famously played Scarlett again on her own series which is always highlighted.

I was able to see her in Fade Out Fade In back in 1964, we were in NYC for the World's Fair. She was always a favorite back then from Garry Moore. My sister and brother-in-law took me, they were living in NJ then, and I was with a convention of 17 busloads of high schoolers from Louisiana to see the fair then to go to a convention at Notre Dame (the first time I saw the place, and right then and there I knew there was no other school I wanted to go to). Jack Cassidy was not there that night, his understudy was.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 05, 2017, 03:03:03 PM
I had forgotten that I recorded this on the DVR, so I watched it and loved it. Brought back many laughs. The siamese twin elephants skit has ALWAYS been my favorite. I just love how Tim made everyone crack up and lose it. I also love Vickie Lawrence's bleeped statement!

Carol crying at the end when they sang the ending theme song suggested to me that they will never sing that again as I doubt there will be another reunion.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 06, 2017, 12:01:14 PM
It's not exactly "Classic TV," but Carol Burnett made three appearances on Hawaii Five-O, one each in 2013, 2014, and 2016, playing Alex O'Loughlin's Aunt Deb McGarrett. In the 2014 appearance, Aunt Deb married an old mobster, who was played by none other than Frankie Valli!

I believe I saw the first one of these, wasn't it a bit Thanksgiving themed?

IMO he's [Harry Connick] starting to look it. It looked to me like he's getting a double chin.

And I wish he'd shave it. Lately he always looks like he just got out of bed and hasn't shaved yet.
I don't like that look and you see it a lot, especially on commercials. Like that current Verizon one
with the obnoxious guy appearing, sometimes on a scooter, and telling everyone what's up. I hate
those.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 06, 2017, 12:36:00 PM
I was able to see her in Fade Out Fade In back in 1964, we were in NYC for the World's Fair. She was always a favorite back then from Garry Moore. My sister and brother-in-law took me, they were living in NJ then, and I was with a convention of 17 busloads of high schoolers from Louisiana to see the fair then to go to a convention at Notre Dame (the first time I saw the place, and right then and there I knew there was no other school I wanted to go to). Jack Cassidy was not there that night, his understudy was.

Excellent!  And you got to go the World's Fair? Fantastic! I wanted to go so bad. I had a World's Fair game and it outlined
everything that was in the fair and such. I loved their orange and blue color scheme, too. It was something on my mind
a lot as a child and dreamed about it, but, alas, it was deemed too expensive for us to go, or something.

I wish I still had that game!  There's a documentary about that fair that I watched, it was quite good.  I also watched one
about the Seattle World's Fair!  (And one about the 1939 one which is one of my favorite movies!) On one of my Lucy Show
dvd's they have a short segment with footage of Lucy at the NY World's Fair when they had Lucy Day. Also, there's an episode
of the Lucy Show where the World's Fair is a part of the episode in some way, but I'm forgetting exactly the plot right now.

I just found this half-hour production called Lucy at the World's Fair!  It's hosted by a World's Fair expert and Tony Maietta!
And I know Tony!!! If this is what is on my dvd, I don't recall it being a full program!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6kRzHyAQtQ

Fritz, when you were at the fair did you see the New York panorama, the scale model of the entire city of New York?
I wanted to see it when I last visited the city, as I found out it is in a museum in Queens, I believe, but I don't recall
why I didn't. You might be interested to know that this scale model is used in the current film Wonderstruck and the
little boy and Julianne Moore walk around in it. I don't think you were allowed to do that when it was an attraction.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 06, 2017, 12:38:16 PM
I had forgotten that I recorded this on the DVR, so I watched it and loved it. Brought back many laughs. The siamese twin elephants skit has ALWAYS been my favorite. I just love how Tim made everyone crack up and lose it. I also love Vickie Lawrence's bleeped statement!

Carol crying at the end when they sang the ending theme song suggested to me that they will never sing that again as I doubt there will be another reunion.

I liked it, too. I was worried it was going to be another show filled with the usual things we've seen recently when Carol appears here and there, but it was nicely edited and the celebrity segments were mostly good.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on December 06, 2017, 01:40:20 PM
Excellent!  And you got to go the World's Fair? Fantastic! I wanted to go so bad. I had a World's Fair game and it outlined
everything that was in the fair and such. I loved their orange and blue color scheme, too. It was something on my mind
a lot as a child and dreamed about it, but, alas, it was deemed too expensive for us to go, or something.

I wish I still had that game!  There's a documentary about that fair that I watched, it was quite good.  I also watched one
about the Seattle World's Fair!  (And one about the 1939 one which is one of my favorite movies!) On one of my Lucy Show
dvd's they have a short segment with footage of Lucy at the NY World's Fair when they had Lucy Day. Also, there's an episode
of the Lucy Show where the World's Fair is a part of the episode in some way, but I'm forgetting exactly the plot right now.

I just found this half-hour production called Lucy at the World's Fair!  It's hosted by a World's Fair expert and Tony Maietta!
And I know Tony!!! If this is what is on my dvd, I don't recall it being a full program!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6kRzHyAQtQ

Fritz, when you were at the fair did you see the New York panorama, the scale model of the entire city of New York?
I wanted to see it when I last visited the city, as I found out it is in a museum in Queens, I believe, but I don't recall
why I didn't. You might be interested to know that this scale model is used in the current film Wonderstruck and the
little boy and Julianne Moore walk around in it. I don't think you were allowed to do that when it was an attraction.

Great! Didn't know about the Lucy attachment! She was a New York State gal!

Yes, I think I did see it. The whole place was fantastic, and I went there again in fall of 1965, I was in NYC for a Notre Dame-Army football game. Both visits were wonderful! Also got to the Met Opera in the old house not long before it closed during the latter visit, Anna Moffo in Lucia di Lammermoor.

The first visit we were pretty much shepherded around by the priests and seminarians who were our leaders, the second time I was on my own.

I wasn't aware of the panorama's use in the film!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on December 06, 2017, 01:50:01 PM
And Gary Morton was seldom without a cigarette in his hand!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on December 06, 2017, 02:38:40 PM
Let's see, she was there on August 31, we were there on August 24.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on December 06, 2017, 04:10:51 PM
I passed the doc about Lucy's visit to the World's Fair on to Mark/Ennis del Mark, he's a real fan of hers.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 06, 2017, 04:34:04 PM

Anyone heard from Mark lately?  I believe he was having computer trouble and using his phone as a computer
isn't something he's liking, so he's been quiet for awhile.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on December 06, 2017, 04:41:13 PM
He's on Facebook a fair amount. I notify him every time that Lucy or Eve is on the old-time radio show Big Broadcast on WAMU. He peeks in occasionally in the Diner.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 30, 2017, 10:31:39 AM

Hey, anyone know where Jeff (Wrangler) has been?  (Since the 15th.)
Maybe he's away for the holidays or something.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 30, 2017, 12:25:27 PM
Hello Lyle,

Jeff is having an extended visit with his father, and has very limited (if any) access to the internet.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 30, 2017, 02:36:01 PM
Hey, anyone know where Jeff (Wrangler) has been?  (Since the 15th.)
Maybe he's away for the holidays or something.

Hello Lyle,

Jeff is having an extended visit with his father, and has very limited (if any) access to the internet.

Lyle, thanks for asking, and Chuck, thanks for filling Lyle in.

My father had a surgical procedure on December 18, and his recovery has been very slow, to say the least. I have no Internet access at his home, and I'm only able to read and write this now because I'm back at my home to pay bills  >:( etc. My presence anywhere in Internet communities will be spotty at best for the immediately foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 30, 2017, 03:09:05 PM
Thoughts and prayers for your father, Jeff. You have been and will be missed. We'll see you when you get home and good thoughts for your father!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: gwyllion on December 30, 2017, 05:21:53 PM
Glad Jeff is okay! Best wishes for his Dad.

Happy new year to all the TV folks!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 30, 2017, 06:49:57 PM
Thoughts and prayers for your father, Jeff. You have been and will be missed. We'll see you when you get home and good thoughts for your father!

Glad Jeff is okay! Best wishes for his Dad.

Thank you both very much.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 31, 2017, 10:09:57 AM

Yes, Jeff, thanks for stopping by and saying "hello!"

Best of wishes and sending prayers your way to your father and to you!




Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 31, 2017, 12:08:35 PM
Yes, Jeff, thanks for stopping by and saying "hello!"

Best of wishes and sending prayers your way to your father and to you!

Thanks, Lyle.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 03, 2018, 11:24:56 AM

Over the holidays I often bring out a Christmas episode of an old series that I remember
watching at home growing up, when my Mom was busy making holiday cookies or some
other thing and my Dad was puttering around. It's comforting and nostalgic. I'm guessing
we like things like that because it makes us feel safe in some way. With all the retro channels
you can also find many of these programs on them.

Because it was the 50th anniversary of 1967, I watched some episodes from that year, like
The Flying Nun, Bewitched and The Monkees, whose Christmas episode was aired Christmas
Day fifty years ago!

With some friends, I also watched an episode of The Mary Tyler Moore Show and The Jack
Benny Program.

I also watched some Christmas themed episodes of The Dean Martin Show, Rowan & Martin's
Laugh-In, and Cher.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on January 20, 2018, 11:39:38 PM
Here's a pic of June, surrounded by some of the characters she gave voice  to.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Csprs1OWgAAOJre.jpg)



She worked on a few animated theatrical films that were made and released by Walt Disney Pictures over the years. It's interesting that she did the voice of Lucifer, the evil pet cat of Cinderella's stepmother Lady Tremaine in Disney's animated version of "Cinderella" (1950).  You know, Walt Disney used a lot of the same voice actors in many of his animated theatrical films over the years.   I liked Disney's theatrical live-action version and remake of "Cinderella" (2015), although the film did have it's flaws.  Cate Blanchett gave a good performance as Lady Tremaine and Helena Bonham Carter was funny as the fairy godmother.  Lily James gave a charming performance as well, but I still think that the animated version of "Cinderella" is superior to it. I've loved Disney's animated version of "Cinderella" (1950) ever since I first saw it with a friend of mine and her children quite a few years back. 

One interesting difference between Disney's two theatrical film versions of the "Cinderella" fairytale is that in the animated version, Cinderella's two stepsisters Anastasia and Drizella seemed to act far more cruel and mean-spirited to Cinderella and neither of the stepsisters had any redeeming qualities.  This seems even more true, especially in the scene where Anastasia and Drizella tear apart the gown that Cinderella was wearing just as her stepmother and stepsisters are getting ready to leave for the ball. The gown had once belonged to Cinderella's biological mother and Cinderella's animal friends had fixed the gown up for Cinderella so that she would have a suitable outfit to wear to the ball.

In the live-action film, Anastasia and Drizella (her name is spelled liked "Drisella" in end credits of the live-action film) apologized to Cinderella for their actions toward her in one of the last scenes in the movie.  I certainly thought the animated film portrayed the two stepsisters far better and even more effectively than the live-action version of the movie did.  Eleanor Audley who played the mother of Eddie Albert's character in the classic television show "Green Acres" (1965-1971) had provided the voice of and served as the live-action reference model for Lady Tremaine in Disney's animated version of "Cinderella".  Audley also provided the voice of and served as the live-action reference model for the character of Maleficent the wicked fairy in Disney's animated film "Sleeping Beauty" (1959).


Due to my fundamentalist religious upbringing, I couldn't watch any form of media entertainment that had magic in it, so I didn't get to see a lot of classic films that involve themes dealing with magic until I was an adult.  I was introduced to a lot of classic animated films and fantasy-themed films from many of my wonderful friends and their amazing children as an adult and got to experience some of the magic that I was denied as a child.  I never thought I would have been able to feel like a child or be able to reconnect with my own inner child when watching such films as an adult.  Some of my friends thought it was a little crazy that I had never seen popular fantasy-themed films like MGM's "The Wizard of Oz" (1939) or Disney's iconic animated movie "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" (1937) as a child, and they thought that I should be introduced to them and many other movies right away.  I'm glad that they urged me to do so and that they shared such fun experiences with me, when I think about it.  I hate to think what I might have missed if I never gave their suggestions a try.  So many people around the world get experience feelings of awe and wonder over such films when they are very young, unfortunately I didn't get that chance until I was much older.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 23, 2018, 12:39:12 PM

Yesterday was the 50th Anniversary of the Premiere of
Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In!

(https://timelife.com/system/product_gallery_panels/images/000/000/497/small/Laugh-In-Memory-book-spread-update.jpg)


Can you believe that? I remember that year. Back then, we didn't catch on to things like that for awhile.
I didn't even hear about the show for 3-4 weeks until after it first came on. But when I did it was always
a huge favorite of mine, and still is! This past year the whole entire series was made available on DVD, too!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 27, 2018, 03:44:21 PM
I just learned that everyone's favorite genii Barbara Eden is now 86 years old.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on February 27, 2018, 04:02:12 PM
and Genie is still on TV, in reruns.....shows how strong a following it had, and how many people liked it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 28, 2018, 10:04:19 AM
Lately I've been thinking about the treatment of Indians/Native Americans in some of these old Westerns that I enjoy so much.

I don't doubt for a minute that it's true they are often (usually?) treated stereotypically.

But I have noticed something that I find interesting. In my favorite, Wagon Train, the Indians do seem to be treated stereotypically when it comes to material culture (for example, a chief sitting around in one of those head dresses so long it just about trails on the ground), but the Flint McCullough character usually speaks favorably of the Indians, as opposed to other characters (not the regulars, such as Major Adams), whose attitude might be summed up in the terrible old cliche, "The only good Indian is a dead Indian." Indians are not treated as gratuitous bad guys just there to be killed. Individuals are treated as human beings with comprehensible motives for their actions. I didn't necessarily expect that for a series that began in the late 1950s. Perhaps as far as Indians are concerned, Hollywood's attitude had already begun to change.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 28, 2018, 12:14:59 PM
and Genie is still on TV, in reruns.....shows how strong a following it had, and how many people liked it.


I still like the character of Jeannie and her rapport with Larry Hagman, but about three years ago you could
buy the entire series on dvd for about $40.00. All 139 episodes. Maybe you still can. I thought that might be
amusing to watch occasionally and I did get through the entire series, but you know what? Most all of the
episodes are really awful. They're not well-written. The first few years Sidney Sheldon wrote almost all of
them. I was kinda shocked. I was hard pressed to come up with 5 really good episodes that I'd watch again.
And one of them wasn't really a good episode, plot and dialogue-wise, it was only good because Paul Lynde
was so amusing in it.  On the other hand, most of Bewitched holds up a lot better (it was on three years
longer) and has many superb episodes.

Still, Barbara Eden's character of Jeannie is still appealing. I bought a ceramic replica of the Jeannie bottle
a long time ago and when I saw Barbara Eden in a musical at the Long Beach Terrace Theatre, I went
backstage afterwards and had her autograph it!    ;D



Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 28, 2018, 12:53:31 PM
Still, Barbara Eden's character of Jeannie is still appealing. I bought a ceramic replica of the Jeannie bottle
a long time ago and when I saw Barbara Eden in a musical at the Long Beach Terrace Theatre, I went
backstage afterwards and had her autograph it!    ;D

That's great, Lyle! I am pea-green with envy.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 28, 2018, 01:58:43 PM
^^^

Me, too, Jeff!  I put the ticket to the musical we saw inside the bottle. At some point after that Hallmark came out with an "I Dream of Jeannie"
Christmas Ornament (complete with a very tiny Jeannie bottle, and I put the ornament in the top of the bottle so it looks like she's peeking out
of it!

That ceramic bottle I bought was through a memorabilia auction house and you had to bid on it. I paid so much for it (at the time I thought it was)
that I have no recollection of how much it actually cost me. I had to put it out of my mind. I actually bid on it because, yes, I wanted it, but I also
thought I wouldn't get it.  Barbara Eden, herself, said that it was a fantastic job of recreating the bottle!  Since that time there was a company
that made the Jeannie bottle, but they were made out of brass. I wonder if they still do?
___________

I looked online and, YES, the artist who got licensing from Sony to make the Jeannie bottles, the only one who has ever gotten this permission,
is still making them.

There's a waiting period of 12 weeks to get one!  And not only does he make them out of brass,
he now has glass ones and all kinds of variations in color and such, They range, at quick glance
from $350 - $1,000 or more.

(http://www.jeanniebottles.com/images/geniebottles/new-collection.jpg)

There's even a new one called the SOFA bottle, made out of glass,
and when you take the top off and look in, the interior lights up and
you see Jeannie looking up at you from her couch and pillows below!

(http://jeanniebottles.com/images2/sofa_bottle/sofabottle_takelook_pics.jpg)

This guy has made a living out of selling Jeannie bottles for the past twenty some years!

http://www.jeanniebottles.com/geniebottles/
_______

I looked at my bottle. The ticket inside was for a musical titled Nite Club Confidential and we saw it in October of 1995.
The artist's name is on the bottle, too. It says "Dan Moyer '95.  The same year. Apparently he is still working as an artist.
This link shows a Jeannie bottle he did in 2000.  The notes say he rarely paints them? A couple other searches seem to
suggest he has painted several, but if he doesn't have licensing permission...I don't know.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/dream-jeannie-genie-bottle-dan-moyer-1690208628

This is what mine looks like.  Barbara wrote To Lyle (on the bottom rim) and Barbara Eden (on the recessed middle).
It won't get rubbed off that way!  Well,now I am thrilled about it all over again!

I don't think I paid more than $350.00, the cheapest price I noticed on the official Jeannie bottles site.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 28, 2018, 02:08:06 PM

Barbara Eden is 86 as you mentioned, Jeff! She's been around awhile! I thought one of
her first roles might have been a 6th season episode of I Love lucy, but around the same
year Barbara Eden was starring in a TV series that ran two seasons. It was based on the
movie. I haven't seen any episodes, but it has been recently released on DVD!

(http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/graphics/news3/HowToMarryAMillionaire_Complete.jpg)

Jeff, have you ever seen it?  Could be interesting.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on February 28, 2018, 04:07:14 PM
I remember that series, it played on TV long before the first Saturday Night at the Movies on NBC, which was the movie of the same name.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 28, 2018, 04:35:01 PM

(http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/graphics/news3/HowToMarryAMillionaire_Complete.jpg)

Jeff, have you ever seen it?  Could be interesting.

I've never seen it. I don't recall that I've heard of it before. I've heard of a show called, I think, "The Millionaire," but never the "how to" series.

I've seen the Lucy episode.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on February 28, 2018, 05:37:07 PM
Yep, John Beresford Tipton doling out the money. That was a good show.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 01, 2018, 10:01:42 AM

The DECADES retro channel occasionally shows some episodes of The MIllionaire.
They aren't in the best of shape, but many of them that I have seen have been
pretty good.

 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 01, 2018, 10:26:41 AM
Eleanor Audley who played the mother of Eddie Albert's character in the classic television show "Green Acres" (1965-1971) had provided the voice of and served as the live-action reference model for Lady Tremaine in Disney's animated version of "Cinderella".  Audley also provided the voice of and served as the live-action reference model for the character of Maleficent the wicked fairy in Disney's animated film "Sleeping Beauty" (1959).

Eleanor Audley (1905--1991),  in my opinion, is a woman who might be considered a sort of unsung heroine of film and television.

Apparently she was on the stage as early as 1926 and in films from 1949. My memories from childhood television viewing are that whenever the plot called for a toffee-nosed matron, Eleanor Audley was your go-to character actress.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0041598/?ref_=nv_sr_1 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0041598/?ref_=nv_sr_1)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 01, 2018, 04:57:13 PM
(http://www.jeanniebottles.com/images/geniebottles/new-collection.jpg)


Those Jeannie bottles are too  cool!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 03, 2018, 10:26:19 AM

I agree, Chuck!

I always wondered why they never actually made a replica Jeannie bottle back when
the series was airing. I always wanted one! My mother had a slender bottle shaped thing
on our shelves, with a top, and my mother (unfortunately) smoked. I'd always ask her
to blow smoke into the bottle so it looked like Jeannie does when she exited her own
bottle. Heh! I had to get something out of all that smoking. My sister smoked, too.
My father smoked a pipe, although he did eventually give that up.  Ugh, smoking!

Although, because they never did have cheap replicas of the Jeannie bottle for sale, there
aren't a lot of them around and this guy who is licensed to make them has cornered the
market on these beautifully made bottles.  I would love to fill out his tax returns.

Occupation: I make Jeannie bottles.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 03, 2018, 10:34:52 AM

Did you know that the original Jennie bottle used in Season 1 was a
Jim Beam bourbon whiskey decanter made for the holiday season around
the time the show was starting up?

(http://propaholics.wolfchasers.com/uploader/users/darkknight0667/firstseasonleaf1.jpg)

When the series changed from black & white to color in the second season they changed
theme songs (the first season is different) and made a more colorful and distinctive bottle.

If you see Season 1 on TV nowadays they usually are airing the colorized version. Columbia
also colorized the first two seasons of Bewitched.


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 03, 2018, 10:42:23 AM
If you see Season 1 on TV nowadays they usually are airing the colorized version. Columbia
also colorized the first two seasons of Bewitched.

On occasion I've wondered how many series began as black and white and then changed to color
in the 60's. I wonder just how many series are like that?

When HAZEL was in production, the sponsor, which was Ford Motor Company, wanted the show
filmed in color to show of their automobiles in the series, but NBC wouldn't pay for the added
expense. They did film ONE Season 1 episode in color. The plot was about Hazel wanting to buy
a color TV set! When the show was a huge hit (it was the #4 rated series it's first year) NBC
relented and the remaining seasons were in color.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 03, 2018, 10:55:27 AM
I always wondered why they never actually made a replica Jeannie bottle back when the series was airing. I always wanted one! My mother had a slender bottle shaped thing on our shelves, with a top, and my mother (unfortunately) smoked. I'd always ask her to blow smoke into the bottle so it looked like Jeannie does when she exited her own bottle. Heh!

Although, because they never did have cheap replicas of the Jeannie bottle for sale, there aren't a lot of them around and this guy who is licensed to make them has cornered the market on these beautifully made bottles.  I would love to fill out his tax returns.

Occupation: I make Jeannie bottles.

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


I'm going on the assumption that at that point in time,  the whole "memorabilia collection"  groups weren't as prevalent as they are now, so back then there wasn't a market for them, and probably no inexpensive way to mass market them.

Now, with so many people collecting items from favorite movies and shows, it makes sense to put limited edition things out.

I've often talked about how much I like the show "Charmed".   A major prop from that show was the Book of Shadows, the book the sisters used to get their magical spells to defeat the demons they faced weekly.

(http://kimbarl.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Book-of-Shadows-300x232.jpg)

When the show ended, actress Holly Marie Combs (Piper) wanted to take the prop, but director Brad Kern ended up getting it.  When  asked in interviews,  Holly still answers that she wanted the book.

When they released a limited deluxe edition of the DVDs, they did it in a version of the Book of Shadows, with replicas of the spells used in the show on the pages.

There are people who have made unauthorized replicas and sold them on ebay, at one point they were selling for between $600.00 - $1,000.00.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 03, 2018, 04:38:37 PM
On occasion I've wondered how many series began as black and white and then changed to color
in the 60's. I wonder just how many series are like that?

When HAZEL was in production, the sponsor, which was Ford Motor Company, wanted the show
filmed in color to show of their automobiles in the series, but NBC wouldn't pay for the added
expense. They did film ONE Season 1 episode in color. The plot was about Hazel wanting to buy
a color TV set! When the show was a huge hit (it was the #4 rated series it's first year) NBC
relented and the remaining seasons were in color.

I remember that episode, I bugged my parents for weeks afterwards to get a color TV, but they didn't. My Dad always said that color wasn't good enough yet, and he was probably right. It wasn't till I moved out to go to grad school that they finally got one, in the early 70's. I remember the first experience of seeing a color TV program, in 1958, we were on a vacation to New York and stopped at the Roses of Picardy Motel in Colonial Heights VA (you can see what an impression it made on me), and the lobby set was color. I watched The Price Is Right (back in the Bill Cullen days) and the colors were turned way up, a red car was extremely garish, but I loved seeing it at age 10.

Hazel got a color TV before her employer did, and he was soon shamed into getting one for the family. I'm sure RCA (the only manufacturer at the time) had a hand in that.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 04, 2018, 12:22:26 PM

Chuck, did you get one of those DVD editions?


I remember that episode, I bugged my parents for weeks afterwards to get a color TV, but they didn't. My Dad always said that color wasn't good enough yet, and he was probably right.

Parents always find ways to put off the kids, heh!

It wasn't till I moved out to go to grad school that they finally got one, in the early 70's.

Same with my parents, Fritz!  Early 70's!

I remember the first experience of seeing a color TV program,

I do, too!  It was in the early 60's and it was either an episode of Branded or The Tammy Grimes Show
at a neighbor's house. I remember seeing a minute or two of both of those programs there. It wasn't
a house I frequented, I'm guessing my mother was there.

Speaking of programs being made in color...there were some producers in the 1950's who made their
shows in color, even though they weren't being broadcast in color, because they recognized they could
get more value out of them in the future if they were in color.

Another example...the first season of The Lucy Show was filmed in b&w.  Desilu shot the second season in color,
but CBS broadcast it in b&w. Desilu realized reuns would become more valuable ion color. The DVD has the episodes
in color. Purists always want things "as originally aired" but what do they feel about this, I don't know. Originally
aired in b&w, but filmed in color.

Combat! is a horse of another color. Back when it was on TV, shows were not syndicated until they left the airwaves.
Cancelled in other words. The last season of Combat was shot in color. The network, ABC, was afraid if they kept the
series on the air (it ran for 5 seasons) they would begin losing money because they wouldn't be able to sell the syndication
rights with 4 seasons of b&w episodes. So, while it warranted getting picked up for a 6th Season, ABC cancelled it as they
wanted to get it into syndication while they could.

It's a strange business!


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 04, 2018, 12:25:18 PM

Also, Fritz, did you feel like I did...since I watched a lot of series that became filmed in color or were
always in color on black and white television, they became something more novel to watch again later
on when I could see them in color. I'm guessing that's why I never was bothered about colorization.
It was just another way to watch a program I liked.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 04, 2018, 12:34:04 PM
Oh definitely. I enjoy watching things I never saw in color originally (including the second season of Star Trek, which I saw on a black and white TV, [missed the first season not being in the country]) as well as seeing ones that were filmed in color but not broadcast that way.

Colorization never bothered me, since the original was maintained in its original state. Some colorization processes are better than others, though. And others which I have seen colorized, like It's A Wonderful Life, I'd rather watch in its original mode, though I don't object to the colorized version existing, like some people seem to do.

I get the impression that some people are actually fearful that the colorized version will replace the original somehow.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 04, 2018, 12:39:33 PM
Chuck, did you get one of those DVD editions?


I sure did!  ;D

This is what the outside looks like.



(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Hy4TsdfVL._SY445_.jpg)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 04, 2018, 12:40:11 PM
This is what the inside looks like.

There are 8 seasons in total, each season gets its own page.



(http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/75/0f/49b551c88da0a525497ad110.L.jpg)



in between the dvd pages are paper pages that have replicas of the spells in the book, like this.





(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/RThZ4do03Nc/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 05, 2018, 07:47:46 AM
On occasion I've wondered how many series began as black and white and then changed to color
in the 60's. I wonder just how many series are like that?

Interesting question. Off the top of my head I can remember four that we watched in our household: Of course my childhood favorite Daniel Boone, and also The Beverly Hillbillies, Petticoat Junction, and Bewitched.

Gunsmoke was around forever. Surely it must have started out in living B&W? Anybody know about Bonanza?

I can't say when we got our first color set, but I do remember it being brought into the house; it was a console model in a nice maple cabinet.

I'm sure we had a color set before the Apollo 11 mission, and that was the summer of 1969.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 05, 2018, 09:53:50 AM
Bonanza was in color from the beginning. I remember the ad campaign about it, stressing the color of the scenery in the opening credits. Of course, I didn't see it in color until many years later.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 05, 2018, 10:19:17 AM
Bonanza was in color from the beginning. I remember the ad campaign about it, stressing the color of the scenery in the opening credits. Of course, I didn't see it in color until many years later.

Which reminds me of the good laugh I still have at my own expense. Until we got a color set, I never knew most of The Wizard of Oz was in color!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 05, 2018, 10:55:49 AM
^^^

Yes, I remember going to school the next day after it was aired one year and others talking about
the "horse of a different color" and I was like, what? That was all really in color? Then the kids who
had color TV sets all felt superior. (They did their superior dance, heh!) I did not see The Wizard of Oz
in color until I came to Los Angeles and saw the film in a retro movie theatre!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 05, 2018, 10:57:50 AM
in between the dvd pages are paper pages that have replicas of the spells in the book, like this.

Chuck, that DVD set looks really fantastic! Isn't it great to have things
like that which we enjoy so much and get a kick out of?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 05, 2018, 11:01:41 AM
Chuck, that DVD set looks really fantastic! Isn't it great to have things like that which we enjoy so much and get a kick out of?

You are so right, Lyle.

My brother says that I should "prank" the public with it.  Since my apartment picture windows face the highway, he says I should get a cape and a book stand, turn out the lights, light some candles, and then put on the cape and stand in front of the windows with the book, and my arms raised, like I'm chanting.

:laugh:

I told him that with my luck, I'd cause an accident and get sued.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 06, 2018, 03:26:25 PM


   ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 17, 2018, 10:29:33 AM
One of this morning's episodes of Have Gun, Will Travel included "Fred Ziffel" in the cast. The other episode had Charles Bronson.

In the Maverick episode, I immediately recognized Fay Spain. She was never a big star, but I recognized her from a very funny episode of the first season of Daniel Boone. In the Boone episode, she played one of two Irish sisters, indentured servants, accidentally bought by Daniel, much to his wife's consternation (to put it mildly).

The episode is titled "The Sisters O'Hanrahan," and it might not be a bad idea to watch it today.  ;D

And, oh, yes, the Wagon Train episode was 01x12, "The Riley Gratton Story," with Guy Madison as the guest star.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 18, 2018, 10:12:19 AM

I wrote once about The Joey Bishop Show having been b&w in its first season and then
going to color in its second and third season season on NBC. NBC was going to cancel it,
but CBS offered to pick it up for a 4th season if they agreed to do it in b&w. I had then
wondered if that was the only show to have gone from b&w to color and back to b&w.

Jeff, did you know that Wagon Train went from b&w and 60 min. lengths for seasons 1-6
to color and 90 min. for season 7, then back to b&w and 60 min. for its final season? I just
read about that the other day.


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 18, 2018, 10:14:01 AM
And, oh, yes, the Wagon Train episode was 01x12, "The Riley Gratton Story," with Guy Madison as the guest star.  :)

I would've watched that!  There's a lot of Guy Madison movies (and TV) I've not seen. A new one is coming out on blu-ray
that's never had any kind of media release before: Hilda Crane.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 18, 2018, 11:31:49 AM
I would've watched that!  There's a lot of Guy Madison movies (and TV) I've not seen. A new one is coming out on blu-ray
that's never had any kind of media release before: Hilda Crane.

I probably mentioned this before, but, by now, it might be 40 years ago (!) that I saw Guy Madison in a movie called The Command. He sure looked fine in a cavalry uniform.  :D

Er, well, he looked fine in anything. ...  ::)

I'd love to see The Command again, and add it to my collection.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 31, 2018, 08:41:03 PM
I forgot this even existed, until I happened to find it on while scrolling through the channels.



(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51v5fbdPdlL._SY445_.jpg)


It's the week before Easter and Davey takes time out from getting ready for the big game, his team the Jickets against the Squeegees, to visit his beloved Grandma Hansen. He, Goliath and Grandma spend the day baking and decorating an Easter cake, exploring the attic, practicing for the game (Grandma is quite the baseball player) and fixing the window Davey breaks with an errant hit of the ball. Grandma Hansen is a lot of fun and it's obvious that Davey loves her very much.

The next day, when Davey arrives home from practice with the team, he learns that Grandma Hansen has died. The entire family mourns her loss. The minister offers prayers of condolence at the small graveside service as the family says goodbye. Davey is distraught, and a trip back to Grandma's house and seeing the cake they made still sitting on the counter only makes him sadder.

Seeing how much pain Davey is in, his father takes him to the rehearsal of the Easter Play, scheduled to be performed in a local park on Easter Sunday. As they watch several actors rehearsing, his father tells him the story of Jesus' resurrection and that Grandma has also been resurrected and one day, so will Davey. The knowledge that one day he will be reunited with his beloved Grandma eases Davey's pain.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 01, 2018, 06:59:11 PM
Jeff, did you know that Wagon Train went from b&w and 60 min. lengths for seasons 1-6
to color and 90 min. for season 7, then back to b&w and 60 min. for its final season? I just
read about that the other day.

I knew about the hour-and-a-half color episodes. I don't recall knowing that it went back to B&W.

Somewhere along the line a few years ago I saw one of those color episodes. I should try to track it down and double check, but I'd swear the guest stars were Ann Blyth--and Ronald Reagan!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 02, 2018, 11:19:24 AM
Somewhere along the line a few years ago I saw one of those color episodes. I should try to track it down and double check,
but I'd swear the guest stars were Ann Blyth--and Ronald Reagan!

"The Fort Pierce Story"
Episode aired September 23, 1963.
Ronald Reagan played Capt. Paul Winters and Ann Blyth played Nancy Winters. (His wife?)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 03, 2018, 07:39:49 AM
[Wagon Train]
"The Fort Pierce Story"
Episode aired September 23, 1963.
Ronald Reagan played Capt. Paul Winters and Ann Blyth played Nancy Winters. (His wife?)

That's the one! Yes, she's his wife.

IIRC, that's beyond the Robert Horton days, so it's of less interest to me.

Although Robert Fuller was not to be sneezed at.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 14, 2018, 09:13:43 AM
This morning's episode is of Wagon Train is "The Cassie Tanner Story," starring everyone's favorite cook/housekeeper Marjorie Main.  :D

And here's someone else I seem to be seeing frequently right now: Virginia Christine, none other than Mrs. Olsen the Folger's Coffee Lady. She was in this morning's episode of Maverick.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on April 16, 2018, 10:22:23 PM
Harry Anderson, ‘Night Court’ Star, Dies at 65

Harry Anderson, the amiable actor who presided over the NBC comedy “Night Court” for nine seasons, has died at his home in Asheville, N.C., according to a local media report. He was 65.

Anderson was found at his home by police officers early Monday , according to a report by WSPA-TV, the CBS affiliate in Spartanburg, S.C. No foul play was suspected, police told the station.

Anderson was a magician-turned-actor who was known as a rabid fan of jazz singer Mel Torme. The affection for Torme was woven into his TV alter ego, Judge Harry Stone, a quirky character who ruled the bench at a Manhattan night court. The sitcom was a mainstay of NBC from 1984 to 1992. Anderson earned three consecutive Emmy nominations for his work on the show from 1985-1987.

Anderson gained national attention after he guest starred as grifter Harry “the Hat” Gittes on NBC’s “Cheers” in the early 1980s. On “Night Court,” Anderson played a goofy but big-hearted judge who encountered a host of oddball characters and cases every week. The series also starred John Larroquette, Richard Moll, Charles Robinson, Marsha Warfield and Markie Post. Anderson also directed two episodes of the series and wrote or co-wrote five episodes during its long run.


http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/harry-anderson-night-court-dead-at-65-1202754949/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on April 17, 2018, 07:19:53 AM
JB Larrycat (which is what we always called John Larroquette) attended the same grammar school in New Orleans as I did, and I knew him back then, and saw him a few times on Canal Street during high school. He was always a go-getter!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 18, 2018, 10:45:41 PM

I sure did!  ;D

This is what the outside looks like.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Hy4TsdfVL._SY445_.jpg)


Chuck,

I just found out that the CW has a pilot for a new series of Charmed in the works.

https://www.metro.us/entertainment/tv/charmed-reboot-update
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 19, 2018, 07:32:28 AM
Chuck,

I just found out that the CW has a pilot for a new series of Charmed in the works.

https://www.metro.us/entertainment/tv/charmed-reboot-update


I've been following this for a while now, and a lot of the fans of the original series are not happy about it.  LOL

Apparently, the three women won't all be sisters (which was the whole premise of the original series) and no one from the original series is involved with this.  They've also offended the original stars by saying their leads will be "three strong women" and the show will have a "feminist slant".

Holly Marie Combs, who played "Piper" on the show, replied to this:

"Here’s the thing. Until you ask us to rewrite it like Brad Kern did weekly don’t even think of capitalizing on our hard work. Charmed belongs to the four of us  (HM Combes, Shannen Dougherty, Alyssa Milano, and Rose McGowan), our vast amount of writers, crews and predominantly the fans. FYI you will not fool them by owning a title/stamp. So bye,"

As for the reboot's feminist slant, Combs replied:  “Guess we forgot to do that the first go around. Hmph,”
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 19, 2018, 01:32:58 PM

CW's rebooted 90210 and Dynasty, too. I believe 90201 did fine, but does anyone watch Dynasty?
Didn't a cable station reboot Dallas?

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 19, 2018, 04:25:57 PM
CW's rebooted 90210 and Dynasty, too. I believe 90201 did fine, but does anyone watch Dynasty?
Didn't a cable station reboot Dallas?

Somebody did reboot Dallas, but I know nothing about it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 28, 2018, 08:38:29 AM
This morning I saw something that I have never seen in my entire life: Morey Amsterdam in a dramatic role. He had a supporting role in one of the episodes of Have Gun, Will Travel on MeTV this morning.

Vincent Price was in the episode, too.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on April 28, 2018, 03:10:38 PM
WOW!! What a combination!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 29, 2018, 11:13:47 AM

Relating to westerns and the long-running Gunsmoke, here's a headline:


'The Simpsons' to Surpass 'Gunsmoke' with 636th Episode Tonight

Holy Cow man!  I used to watch The Simpsons all the time when it first was on. Then at some point,
I watched it occasionally, off and on. Then I would watch special episodes that were talked about or
milestones. For I don't know how long now I haven't watched it at all. It's really strange to think a
show has been on so long where NONE of the characters have changed appearance since they first
appeared. Obviously a live-action show couldn't do that, but I'm not sure I know the appeal of that
to last so long. Maybe different audiences tune in and out over the years. Family Guy has recently
done just over 300 episodes, nearly half of the Simpsons and I do still watch that one.

What a job those voice actors signed up for back then!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 07, 2018, 11:23:58 AM
Speaking of Gunsmoke. ...

I'm taking today off, and I just happened to tune into MeTV as a episode of Gunsmoke was beginning. I immediately recognized one of the supporting players: Sam Elliott (the still hot Sam Elliott), who (according to IMDb, anyway) was all of 28 years old when the episode was broadcast.

The voice wasn't yet as smokey-gravelly as it became, but you could hear the start of it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 08, 2018, 10:12:18 AM

You took the day off yesterday? Did you have a wild birthday weekend?   >:D
(Did you check out your greetings in the Birthday thread?)

Hope it was a good one!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2018, 10:46:25 AM
You took the day off yesterday?

Yes.

Quote
Did you have a wild birthday weekend?   >:D

No.

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(Did you check out your greetings in the Birthday thread?)

I need to check.

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Hope it was a good one!

It was OK, thanks.

Lyle, check out my second follow-up post on the birthday thread.  ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 08, 2018, 11:07:33 AM

Classic TV, well I don't know, is twenty years ago classic? I guess the older you get
and can remember things the less they seem like classics!

Anyway, I never watched DR. QUINN MEDICINE WOMAN when it was on, but I remember
once reading about an episode where Walt Whitman visits the town and rumors start about
him "preferring the company of men." I'd always wanted to see that episode to see how that
played out and last week I happened to think of it, so I looked up to see if it was available to
rent on NetFlix and it is. I got in the mail this weekend.

Did you ever watch this show Jeff?

Now, I mentioned it to my friends whom I usually see on the weekend and they wanted me to
bring it over and we'd all watch it, but this weekend they had other plans so we're going to watch
it tonight. I did, however, watch another episode last night that was on the disk, to get a feel of
what the series was like, perhaps.

It's beautifully shot, for starters. Second, I didn't know Dr. Quinn's first name was "Mike." That's
odd, unless it was a plot point at the beginning that she used Mike so as not to scare off people
(men) who wouldn't see a woman doctor. The actor who plays her husband, Joe Rando, has
impossibly long and beautiful hair. (Like Thor.) It just looks too clean, for one thing, but he's
certainly attractive. Another guy on the show has long hair like that and, of course, we've seen
real life western men with long hair, like Custer, but in the movies at least, it's certainly not the
norm is it? Or was it? On the show it also stands in stark contrast to those men whose hair is
very short.

One of the actors in the show is Chad Allen. That brought to mind that while he was on this series
in 1996, The Globe tabloid outed him by publishing a picture of him kissing someone at a party. He
was only 21. I don't know at all, but I wondered if this prompted the Walt Whitman episode which
was from the following season?

I'll write a bit about it after I see it. You always wonder about gay themed TV episodes from the past.
Sometimes they're very stereotypical and offensive. Sometimes well-meaning but preachy. This one
is now over 20 years old (!) so we shall see.

Here's a couple interesting quotes attributed to Chad Allen:

Until Brokeback Mountain (2005) there was a huge fear or belief that you couldn't tell a story with a gay hero and have it make money. A well-made movie with a good story trumps everything. It's not just a victory for gay rights; it's a victory for humanity.
___

I don't remember a time when I didn't know I was gay. I may not have known what to call it, and for a long time, I probably wouldn't have even associated it with sexual attraction. But, I knew something about me was different. I have been acting since I was a child. On one of my very first jobs I was playing a kid with medical issues on some bad TV show and Alec Baldwin was giving me mouth-to-mouth resuscitation. Alec Baldwin! I couldn't wait to get to work. I would sit and stare at him all day long. I couldn't stand not to be around him. I think I was eight years old at the time.    ;D

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 08, 2018, 11:17:37 AM

Here's a photo of the cast from the 5th Season DVD set, which is
the season the episode I watched is from.

(https://www.visionvideo.com/img/product/large/D71695D.jpg)

Chad Allen is on the right. THe actress on the far left wasn't in the episode i watched last night.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 08, 2018, 11:32:06 AM

While I was looking for the photo I saw this one.  That's John Schneider on the left.
He looks so young!

(https://www.statesidestills.com/prodimages/dr_quinn_medicine_woman_cast_1189l.jpg)

According to imdb he was in a first season episode of Dr. Quinn, and then joined the cast in the 6th and last
season for 15 episodes playing a different character. So in this photo he's either 32 or 37, and looks younger!

I looked him up, he was only 19 when he started The Dukes of Hazzard TV series. I thought he was older.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2018, 11:58:10 AM
Did you ever watch this show Jeff?

I did watch the show because I've been a Jane Seymour fan since I don't know when. I missed the first season but somehow have never gotten around to finding it and watching it. I believe the whole series is available on video.

I saw the Walt Whitman episode, so I won't say anything about it.

"Mike" was a nickname for "Michaela."

Yeah, Joe Lando was hot. ...

It's been a long time, now. I think Sully (Lando) and the doctor didn't get married until the next-to-last season, but I might be wrong about that. I have it in mind that the marriage was a season-ending episode, but I could be wrong.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2018, 12:00:08 PM

(https://www.statesidestills.com/prodimages/dr_quinn_medicine_woman_cast_1189l.jpg)


That's a very good picture of Joe Lando.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2018, 12:07:55 PM
Here's a couple interesting quotes attributed to Chad Allen:

I may not have known what to call it [gay], and for a long time, I probably wouldn't have even associated it with sexual attraction. But, I knew something about me was different.

I've never thought much of Chad Allen, but I might have written that statement about myself.

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I have been acting since I was a child. On one of my very first jobs I was playing a kid with medical issues on some bad TV show and Alec Baldwin was giving me mouth-to-mouth resuscitation. Alec Baldwin! I couldn't wait to get to work. I would sit and stare at him all day long. I couldn't stand not to be around him. I think I was eight years old at the time.    ;D

In 1980-1982, Alec Baldwin was in a soap opera called The Doctors. Maybe that's what Allen is referring to. Baldwin was stare-worthy back then.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on May 08, 2018, 04:28:14 PM
I looked him up, he was only 19 when he started The Dukes of Hazzard TV series. I thought he was older.

Well, there has been "misinformation" about John's age.   He's stated in interviews that he lied about his age, making himself older, on his resumé and in conversation.  He wanted some older roles, rather than being a "teen" idol.

He was cast on DoH, and the casting director thought he was the age he claimed to be, so he's younger than a lot of people think he is.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 27, 2018, 05:14:51 PM
Yesterday (5/26/18) morning's MeTV episode of Wagon Train was amazing for its cast.

The episode was "The Andrew Hale Story," first broadcast 6/3/1959. I had never seen this episode before. John McIntire starred as Andrew Hale, a minister who accidentally shot a member of his congregation. (McIntire would take over as wagon master Chris Hale after Ward Bond died.) But the cast also included the wonderful Jane Darwell (Ma Joad in The Grapes of Wrath), Clu Gulager, James Best, Jack Buetel (The Outlaw, the film that made a star of Jane Russell's bosom), and Nurse Ratched herself, a very young Louise Fletcher.

In 1959, Jane Darwell was 80 years old (she was born in 1879!) and Louise Fletcher was 25.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 30, 2018, 11:19:50 AM

Do you know what Jane Darwell's last film performance was?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 30, 2018, 11:35:46 AM
Do you know what Jane Darwell's last film performance was?

The Bird Woman in Mary Poppins. Walt Disney personally, in person, asked her to do it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 30, 2018, 12:11:25 PM

You are correct!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 30, 2018, 01:13:32 PM
Do you know what Jane Darwell's last film performance was?

The Bird Woman in Mary Poppins. Walt Disney personally, in person, asked her to do it.

You are correct!

Easy enough. I saw it in her IMDb listing when I went there to see how old she was at the time of the Wagon Train episode.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on June 02, 2018, 09:57:30 AM
I remember the role, but I hadn't seen her other roles before Mary Poppins. What an actress!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 18, 2018, 10:51:08 AM

Jeff, the Decades channel binged two days of Daniel Boone this weekend!
I caught an episode with Maurice Evans in it. I looked up the title. It was
called Beaumarchais (1967) and he played the title role.

He was in all sorts of TV programs I watched growing up, but most well-known
of course, for playing Samantha's father on Bewitched. He was also in movies,
like Rosemary's Baby. He was a Batman villain, too, playing The Puzzler! (I've
always found it interesting that many gay men played villains on the Batman
series, like Maurice Evans, Roddy McDowall, Van Johnson, Roger C. Carmel,
Victor Buono, Liberace and Cesar Romero.)

I always wished Paul Lynde would have played one as well.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 18, 2018, 07:57:52 PM
Jeff, the Decades channel binged two days of Daniel Boone this weekend!
I caught an episode with Maurice Evans in it. I looked up the title. It was
called Beaumarchais (1967) and he played the title role.

I don't believe we get Decades around here. There is so much to check these days.

I remember the Beaumarchais episode. Of course, I've got the whole damn Boone series on DVD, so. ...  :laugh:

I still contend the first season (in B&W) was the best. In the second season they were already recycling plots.  ::)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 06, 2018, 06:41:20 PM
Charlotte Rae, Mrs. Garrett on 'Diff'rent Strokes' and 'Facts of Life', has died at age 92

By:  Scripps National,  Posted 10:49 PM, Aug 5, 2018,   updated 6:24 AM, Aug 6, 2018

Charlotte Rae, a gregarious actress with a prodigious career on stage, screen and TV, died on Sunday at the age of 92, her son Larry Strauss told CNN.

She is best known for her role as housekeeper Edna Garrett, first on the sitcom "Diff'rent Strokes" and then the spinoff "The Facts of Life," with both shows launching in the 1970s and running several years into the '80s.

She passed away peacefully at her home in Los Angeles on Sunday afternoon, Strauss said, and was surrounded by her family at the time of her death. A cause of death was not provided.

https://www.theindychannel.com/entertainment/charlotte-rae-mrs-garrett-on-diffrent-strokes-and-facts-of-life-has-died-at-age-92
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on August 06, 2018, 06:55:23 PM
Sorry to hear. I liked her on both shows. She also had some spots in Car 54 Where Are You, Norman Lear's Hot L Baltimore on ABC, and lots of cartoon voiceovers.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 12, 2018, 11:37:26 AM

Antenna-TV has added two ONE season shows in their Saturday afternoon lineup.

One is Lotsa Luck that starred Dom DelUise and Kathleen Freeman. Aired in 73-74 I Believe.
The other is the one season 1972-73 series The Paul Lynde Show.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on August 12, 2018, 12:26:53 PM
With our houseguest here, we've been watching a lot of Perry Mason the past couple of weeks, and some Matlock, on FETV.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 13, 2018, 09:44:40 AM
With our houseguest here, we've been watching a lot of Perry Mason the past couple of weeks, and some Matlock, on FETV.

Last I was able to check, Me-TV shows them on weekday mornings. They also advertise that they show Wagon Train six days a week, but I can watch only on Saturday mornings.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on September 06, 2018, 01:04:28 PM
Burt Reynolds just passed away. He was 82 and died of cardiac arrest.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: heavenonearth on September 06, 2018, 01:05:59 PM
Burt Reynolds just passed away. He was 82 and died of cardiac arrest.

Oh wow. Godspeed Burt. xox

Thanks, Linda.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on September 09, 2018, 09:03:59 PM
Bill Daily dies at age 91.

Bill Daily, the comic sidekick to leading men on the sitcoms “I Dream of Jeannie” and “The Bob Newhart Show,” has died, a family spokesman said Saturday.

Daily died of natural causes in Albuquerque, New Mexico, on Tuesday, at his home where he had been living with his son, spokesman Steve Moyer told The Associated Press
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 10, 2018, 08:03:08 AM
Jane Darwell was in the episode of Maverick that aired on Me-TV Saturday morning. The episode was called "Black Fire," and it aired in 1958.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 22, 2018, 10:20:14 AM
This morning I was happy to see an episode or Wagon Train I'd never before. It was called "The Sacramento Story," and it involved the wagon train reaching its final destination in California. It was the final episode of Season 1, 1957-1958. A couple of guest stars from earlier in the season had small parts: Linda Darnell, Marjorie Main, Dan Duryea.

I guess you might say the "main guest star," because the story revolved around her, was a very grown up Margaret O'Brien, who turned 21 years old that year (1958). To the best of my knowledge and recollection, I've never seen her as anyone other than Judy Garland's little sister in Meet Me in St. Louis, so this was a pleasant surprise. She grew up to be, in my opinion, a very pretty young lady. (I wouldn't have called her beautiful, but very, very pretty in a girl-next-door kind of way, and there's nothing wrong with that.) According to IMDb, she is still with us and still acting.

Incidentally, the episode is identified as 39:01x39, meaning the 39th episode of the entire series, Season 1, and the 39th episode of the season. Can you even imagine? In 1957-1958, a TV show's season was 39 weeks!

Lucky Margaret O'Brien. She got to kiss Robert Horton.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 22, 2018, 10:21:44 AM

Congratulations to Jeff Wrangler (Jeff)  on reaching 5,000+ posts!!!!!





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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 22, 2018, 12:09:24 PM
Good God. ... Gee, thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on September 22, 2018, 12:24:00 PM
Congrats, Jeff!! You talker you!! ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 22, 2018, 12:36:29 PM

Jeff:

(http://i.imgur.com/WRR8T0z.jpg)

"Woo Hoo!"
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on September 22, 2018, 12:58:01 PM
CONGRATS BBM-5XM, JEFF!!!!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 22, 2018, 04:38:15 PM
Doh! Thanks, everyone.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 13, 2018, 09:32:27 AM
This morning's episode of Wagon Train was "The Ella Lindstrom Story" from Season 2, the first of the two Bette Davis stories. It's not my favorite of the two, but at least this one also has manly Robert Fuller in the supporting cast to commend it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on October 27, 2018, 07:30:03 AM
Charlotte Rae, Mrs. Garrett on 'Diff'rent Strokes' and 'Facts of Life', has died at age 92

By:  Scripps National,  Posted 10:49 PM, Aug 5, 2018,   updated 6:24 AM, Aug 6, 2018

Charlotte Rae, a gregarious actress with a prodigious career on stage, screen and TV, died on Sunday at the age of 92, her son Larry Strauss told CNN.

She is best known for her role as housekeeper Edna Garrett, first on the sitcom "Diff'rent Strokes" and then the spinoff "The Facts of Life," with both shows launching in the 1970s and running several years into the '80s.

She passed away peacefully at her home in Los Angeles on Sunday afternoon, Strauss said, and was surrounded by her family at the time of her death. A cause of death was not provided.

https://www.theindychannel.com/entertainment/charlotte-rae-mrs-garrett-on-diffrent-strokes-and-facts-of-life-has-died-at-age-92




She was a good actress.  I loved watching the "The Facts of Life" and "Diff'rent Strokes" when they were still on the air.  I think that Kim Fields who played the role of Tootie on "The Facts of Life" grew up to be so pretty in pictures that I've seen of her.  It is a shame with what happened to Dana Plato and Gary Coleman from "Diff'rent Strokes" (1978-1986).  They chose to make some bad choices and both died at young ages.  No disrespect to Plato or Coleman, but I do think that achieving fame and wealth at such a young age, I imagine, can make some people become very corrupt.  Todd Bridges has made bad choices, fortunately, his life didn't end so young and so tragically, it almost could have.  I hope that he is still trying to get his act together. 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 18, 2018, 01:42:21 PM
As always, yesterday morning I watched the episode of Wagon Train on MeTV. The episode was called "The Danny Benedict Story," from 1959, and it starred the beautiful Brandon de Wilde in the title role. He played a young boy whose father was an army officer, a colonel. His father wanted him to be a soldier, but Danny was a talented musician, a violinist, and he wanted to pursue a musical career. In the end, he smashed his violin and did what his father wanted him to do.

I'd seen this episode before, but as I watched it yesterday, I found myself thinking an episode like that couldn't be made anymore. Today, instead of buckling under to his father, the story would have had Danny follow his own dream to be a musician, and his father would have discovered he could be proud of him anyway.

Times change.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 19, 2018, 10:50:20 AM

Just wondered how you felt about it when you watched it. Did you feel the ending as portrayed
was satisfying, or did you see it differently?

An episode like that could be made now, it's just that they'd probably also include how that decision affects the person.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 19, 2018, 12:12:02 PM
Just wondered how you felt about it when you watched it. Did you feel the ending as portrayed
was satisfying, or did you see it differently?

No, I didn't find it satisfying. That's what provoked me to write that an episode like that couldn't be made today. I think the average civilian viewer today would be dissatisfied that Danny gave in to what his father wanted instead of following his own talent as a musician. I found the scene near the end, where Danny smashes his violin and then salutes his father, painful to watch. And Danny's father, a  colonel; Major Adams (the wagon master); and General Sheridan (an other character in the story), were all proud and approving.

I say "civilian" advisedly. I mean no disrespect to anyone in the military, but I do think that even today, someone in the military could have a different and equally valid perspective on the episode than I do.

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An episode like that could be made now, it's just that they'd probably also include how that decision affects the person.

Plot-wise that sounds more like a film than a one-hour TV show episode, especially since an hour show today has a lot less show and a lot more commercials than in 1959.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 20, 2018, 10:16:48 AM

But, also, nowadays series tend to extend storylines into other episodes and aren't
self contained.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 02, 2018, 05:49:05 PM
Ken Berry, Star of ‘F Troop’ and ‘Mama’s Family,’ Dies at 85

http://highlighthollywood.com/2018/12/ken-berry-star-of-f-troop-and-mamas-family-dies-at-85/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 07, 2018, 07:31:28 AM
Ken Berry, Star of ‘F Troop’ and ‘Mama’s Family,’ Dies at 85

http://highlighthollywood.com/2018/12/ken-berry-star-of-f-troop-and-mamas-family-dies-at-85/

I always liked F Troop. I meant to get the first season on DVD but never got around to it. That was another show that I thought was best in its "freshman" season.

Incidentally, I suspect that F Troop was based on/inspired by a movie called Advance to the Rear. I saw that movie once, and it seemed to me the set-up was very similar to F Troop.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Flyboy on December 19, 2018, 03:48:26 PM
Guess I haven't been in this thread for a while!! Didn't even know Ken Berry passed away!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 05, 2019, 09:35:44 AM
Quite an episode of Maverick this morning. Troy Donahue and Adam West both guest stars. I haven't tried to "trace" the episode, but my impression is that's probably from before Donahue became a big star. He didn't have the prominent role I think you might expect for a big star.

The cast also included the character actor Henry Daniell, who always played sleazy characters (he had that kind of voice). He played the magazine editor who sent Jimmy Stewart and Ruth Hussey to cover Katharine Hepburn's wedding in The Philadelphia Story.

Also in the cast was the character actress Virginia Gregg. She had a long, long career, but she had one uncredited role in a classic and very famous movie: She was the voice of "Mother Bates" in Psycho.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 05, 2019, 10:29:09 AM
Quite an episode of Maverick this morning. Troy Donahue and Adam West both guest stars. I haven't tried to "trace" the episode, but my impression is that's probably from before Donahue became a big star. He didn't have the prominent role I think you might expect for a big star.

The cast also included the character actor Henry Daniell, who always played sleazy characters (he had that kind of voice). He played the magazine editor who sent Jimmy Stewart and Ruth Hussey to cover Katharine Hepburn's wedding in The Philadelphia Story.

Also in the cast was the character actress Virginia Gregg. She had a long, long career, but she had one uncredited role in a classic and very famous movie: She was the voice of "Mother Bates" in Psycho.  ;D


Maverick - "Pappy" -  Season 3, episode 1.

Bret and Bart travel to Louisiana when they find out their Pappy is engaged to an 18-year-old girl. Bart is posing as "Dandy Jim" Buckley, the nemesis of the Mavericks. The girl's father wants Pappy to be killed in a duel -- but only after the engagement is announced.


Episode cast overview:
James Garner   James Garner   ...   Bret Maverick / Beau 'Pappy' Maverick
Jack Kelly      ...   Bart Maverick / Uncle Bentley Maverick
Adam West   ...   Rudolph St. Cloud
Troy Donahue   ...   Dan Jamison
Henry Daniell   ...   Rene St. Cloud
Virginia Gregg   ...   Gida Jamison
Michael Forest   ...   Jean Paul St. Cloud
Kaye Elhardt   ...   Josephine St. Cloud
John Hubbard   ...   Sampson Bronze
Chubby Johnson   ...   Chester Miller


*sings*......as for you, Troy Donahue.....
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on January 16, 2019, 06:28:59 PM
Ken Berry, Star of ‘F Troop’ and ‘Mama’s Family,’ Dies at 85

http://highlighthollywood.com/2018/12/ken-berry-star-of-f-troop-and-mamas-family-dies-at-85/


He was funny in "Mama's Family", especially when the provoked Mother Harper to make sarcastic comments about how Vint and Naomi would get too passionate with each other.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 30, 2019, 01:45:29 PM
This morning I saw an episode of Wagon Train that I had actually never seen before. It was Season 2, episode 23, "The Vivian Carter Story." The guest stars were Phyllis Thaxter, Lorne Greene (!), and Patric Knowles. Thaxter played the titular Vivian Carter, who was traveling West to marry a man (Knowles) she had known years before in Boston, only to find out that he was already married. (He was after her money.)

This was not one of the better episodes I've seen. Major Adams (Ward Bond) and Flint McCullough (Robert Horton) both had roles to play in the story, but possibly they had no scenes together (Bond and Horton did not get along). I don't remember for sure.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 31, 2019, 11:48:43 AM
It's great to come across an old episode of a TV series you liked, but hadn't seen before!  Or a movie one hasn't seen from a star you liked to watch!

--Burke's Law

I've been watching episodes of the first season of an early 1960's TV series called Burke's Law. It stars Gene Barry as a millionaire ladies man Los Angeles police captain, who goes around solving murders in his Rolls Royce along with his rookie partner (Gary Conway) and one who's going to retire (Regis Toomey.) It's an early Aaron Spelling production.

Each episode is titled "Who Killed __________?" and they visit all the suspects and try to figure things out. Each suspect is played by a famous or up and coming celebrity and part of the joy in watching this show is the opening credits that start with GUEST STARS IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER! Then you'll see about 5-6 names, and many times more, of famous people who you'll be seeing in the episode!

Here's the cast in one I watched recently: Mary Astor, Zsa Zsa Gabor, Paul Lynde, John Saxon, Lizabeth Scott and Chill Wills!  (Alvy Moore was in it, too. He was Hank Kimball on Green Acres.)

Other names from episodes I saw recently are Nancy Sinatra, Broderick Crawford, Elizabeth Montgomery, Tina Louise, Tab Hunter, Dick Clark, Frankie Avalon and Annette Funicello, Howard Duff and Ida Lupino,  David Niven, Gloria Swanson, Jeanne Crain, Betty Hutton, Gloria Grahame, Phil Harris, Jayne Mansfield, Ann Blyth and Don Ameche, to name a few. There was even an episode where an as yet unknown had a couple lines: Rue McClanahan! Oh, and did I mention Zasu Pitts?

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 31, 2019, 02:48:45 PM
It's great to come across an old episode of a TV series you liked, but hadn't seen before!  Or a movie one hasn't seen from a star you liked to watch!

--Burke's Law


That was interesting. Lyle. I remember the title but I couldn't have said anything about the show itself.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 13, 2019, 02:42:01 PM
Surprise of the morning: One of the guest stars in one of this morning's episodes of Have Gun, Will Travel was ... Col. Klink himself (Werner Klemperer).

Another of the guests was Pippa Scott. I know her best from Auntie Mame, where she plays the young woman Patrick Dennis ultimately marries. She's also one of John Wayne's nieces in The Searchers (not the one he goes looking for; that's Natalie Wood).

It still amazes me that they were able to tell some pretty good stories in just a half an hour.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 15, 2019, 08:04:12 PM
Veteran Actor Georgia Engel Passes Away At Age 70

by BWW News Desk Apr. 15, 2019 

BroadwayWorld is saddened to report the passing of veteran stage and screen actor, Georgia Engel. She was 70 years old.  Georgia's Broadway roles included Mrs. Tottendale in The Drowsy Chaperone; Minnie Fay in Hello, Dolly! with Ethel Merman, The Boys From Syracuse, and My One and Only with Tommy Tune.  Off-Broadway she was seen in Annie Baker's John at Signature Theatre for which she won an Obie Award, Uncle Vanya at Soho Rep, and, Will Eno's Middletown at Vineyard Theatre.

Her most recent stage role of note was appearing opposite Lillias White, Donna McKechnie, and Andre de Shields in the musical Half Time at Paper Mill Playhouse.

She was best known for her work as Georgette Franklin Baxter on The Mary Tyler Moore Show, on which she appeared from 1972 until the show ended in 1977. The role won her two Emmy nominations.  After that series ended, she teamed up with former Mary Tyler Moore Show co-star Betty White for The Betty White Show during its first and only (1977-1978) season.  Engel received consecutive Emmy nominations as outstanding guest actress in a comedy series in 2003, 2004, and 2005 for her role on Everybody Loves Raymond as Robert Barone's mother-in-law, Pat MacDougall.


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                       ^^^^^                                                                                           ^^^^^^
                       Georgia                                                                                            Georgia

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/Veteran-Actor-Georgia-Engel-Passes-Away-At-Age-70-20190415
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 28, 2019, 08:34:31 PM
Last night I watched a couple of episodes of Wagon Train on DVD.

The first I had seen before but didn't recognize it from the title or the brief description in the episode guide. It was kind of cute; it was a Wagon Train spin on Pride and Prejudice, with a mother traveling West to find husbands for her four daughters. In this case the mother was made a widow so she could set her cap for Major Adams, the wagon master. The oldest daughter was the Elizabeth Bennett character, who took an instant dislike to the man she ended up marrying. The youngest daughter ran off with a soldier, just like in PAP.

The mother was played by Lee Patrick. She had a long career as a character actor. I know her best from her playing Humphrey Bogart's secretary in The Maltese Falcon, and from playing Doris Upson in Auntie Mame. She also played Mrs. Topper in the old Topper TV series.

The second episode starred Ann Blyth in a dual role as a young woman going West in search of the mother who abandoned her, and also as the mother.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 29, 2019, 10:46:22 AM

Ann Blyth always intrigues me!

I was so happy to have seen her in person at an AMPAS screening of Mildred Pierce several years ago!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 04, 2019, 12:17:47 PM
Kind of an interesting Saturday Morning at the Westerns on MeTV. Charles Bronson and George Kennedy both appeared in one half-hour episode of Have Gun, Will Travel. The Wagon Train episode featured John Howard. He looked and sounded familiar, but I couldn't quite place him. Turned out I knew him as the guy who does not marry Katherine Hepburn in The Philadelphia Story (aka the movie Lyle hates  :D ). I looked him up at IMDb; it seems he had quite an extensive career, including a lot of television.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 06, 2019, 05:21:00 PM
I'll put this here.

I cheerfully admit to being a fuddy-duddy who watches The Lawerence Welk Show on PBS.  :D  Actually, it's more like listening to it. Our local station broadcasts the show at 7 p.m. on Saturdays, and at that hour I'm usually making dinner, or eating dinner, or cleaning up after dinner.

Anyway, to my point: The show broadcast this past Saturday was from 1973 and was dedicated entirely to the works of Cole Porter--not bad for a musical program.

I learned something I found interesting. I knew Cole Porter wrote the "cowboy song" Don't Fence Me In. I always thought it was odd for Porter to have written a song like that, but Lawrence Welk said Porter wrote it for Roy Rogers, the "singing cowboy" movie and TV star. It still sounds a little funny to me that Porter wrote that kind of song, but at least now I know why.

On the Welk program, the song was sung by Clay Hart, then the show's resident Country singer. I think I had a crush on him before I knew what was what. He was handsome, had great hair, and a beautiful, silky baritone.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 07, 2019, 12:18:16 PM

Nothing like a program of Cole Porter music!

I wanted to make sure of a lyric in that song and when I looked it said it was written in 1934! I didn't think Roy Rogers career was big enough at that early date, so I looked up the song info. The wiki page says Cole Porter originally wrote the song in 1934 for Adios, Argentina, an unproduced 20th Century Fox film musical. It became a hit when Roy Rogers sang it in the Hollywood Canteen film (while sitting on Trigger) and he sang it again in his own film "Don't Fence Me In" a year later.  At the same time, Bing Crosby and the Andrews Sisters recorded it and it topped the Billboard charts for 8 weeks in 1944-45. I believe that version was my introduction to the song. (Not in 1944-45!)

And, Jeff, as to your feeling it was odd for Porter to have written that kind of song, this sounds about right: "Despite the popularity of the song, Porter claimed it was his least favorite of his compositions."

I happened to have seen Roy Rogers & Dale Evans in person once, at a taping of a television program.

I never saw Lawrence Welk in person, but in the late 1970's there was a TV Guide article about celebrities and some of their personalized license plates. One of them was Lawrence Welk's.  Not too long after that I was riding to work on a bus down Cahuenga Blvd. and I was looking out the window at the traffic as a rather lengthy car was passing us and I glanced at the license plate to see Lawrence Welk's plate that I'd seen in the TV Guide:

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 07, 2019, 12:40:24 PM

Oh, and P.S.:

Happy Birthday Jeff!

(https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/close-up-of-colorful-candles-burning-on-birthday-cake-werner-freigang--eyeem.jpg)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 07, 2019, 02:35:41 PM
Thank you.

And that license plate is wunnerfull, wunnerfull!  :D

I'm not really surprised that Welk was a bit off on Don't Fence Me In.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 09, 2019, 09:44:47 PM
HAPPY BELATED BOITDAY
JEFF
DAWLIN HAWT!!!!


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 11, 2019, 09:46:19 AM
The first I had seen before but didn't recognize it from the title or the brief description in the episode guide. It was kind of cute; it was a Wagon Train spin on Pride and Prejudice, with a mother traveling West to find husbands for her four daughters. In this case the mother was made a widow so she could set her cap for Major Adams, the wagon master. The oldest daughter was the Elizabeth Bennett character, who took an instant dislike to the man she ended up marrying. The youngest daughter ran off with a soldier, just like in PAP.

Lately I seem to be running into Wagon Train episodes inspired by classic literature. The episode broadcast on MeTV this morning was a Wagon Train spin on Great Expectations. Of course the character names were changed, but the plot line and "character correspondence" was unmistakable. The Pip character was called Tuck (Ben Tuckett). The character actor Robert Middleton played the escaped convict character. There was a Miss Havisham character, and the Estella character was played by a very young Louise Fletcher.

Edit to Add: I noticed the closing credits included a notation that the episode was based on Great Expectations.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 11, 2019, 11:23:56 AM

Interesting that they included that credit, Jeff. They didn't have to for any copyright issue then.

Great Expectations is one of my favorite Dicken's novels. Oddly, though, I have never really liked
any of the movie or TV versions they've made from the novel. (Remember in the 90's, I believe, they
did a modern set version of it with Gwyneth Paltrow?)

There's a 1947 version directed by David Lean that was popular and got 5 Oscar nominations, including director
and picture. It won two for Art Direction and Cinematography. I saw it once on TV and then on the silver screen
at an AMPAS film series and I fell asleep during both of those viewings. So I wonder if I'd like this Wagon Train
version.

Miss Havisham is one of the great characters of literature, if you ask me!


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 11, 2019, 01:46:59 PM
There's a 1947 version directed by David Lean that was popular and got 5 Oscar nominations, including director
and picture. It won two for Art Direction and Cinematography. I saw it once on TV and then on the silver screen
at an AMPAS film series and I fell asleep during both of those viewings. So I wonder if I'd like this Wagon Train
version.

Well, it's shorter, at least.  :D

Quote
Miss Havisham is one of the great characters of literature, if you ask me!

Yes, she is, though I don't really care for the novel. I had to read it in ninth grade English, and it just didn't do much for me. I prefer David Copperfield, but with something of a caveat. It feels to me like the first half of the novel is just one character sketch after another--and they're all great! But after the midpoint, when stuff really starts to happen, it doesn't seem as good to me. I've never seen any of the film versions of Great Expectations, probably because I didn't care for it when I read it in school.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 11, 2019, 09:37:13 PM
Twin Peaks' And 'Mod Squad' Icon Peggy Lipton Is Dead

Lipton, a one-time model who rocketed to stardom in the 1960s hit “The Mod Squad” and later became the muse of David Lynch’s cult TV series “Twin Peaks,” has died.

She was 72. Her death from cancer was announced Saturday by Kidada and Rashida Jones (of “The Office” and “Parks and Recreation”), her daughters with former husband, music producer Quincy Jones.


https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5cd78103e4b0705e47dd611c/amp?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 13, 2019, 10:33:50 AM
Hearsay, because I haven't verified it, but I was told this morning by a coworker that Doris Day has died. I guess she's primarily known for her movies, but I remember her TV show.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 13, 2019, 11:49:55 AM
Doris Day, Screen Legend And Animal Rights Activist, Dead At 97

Doris Day has died at age 97, her foundation said Monday.

The legendary actress died at her Carmel Valley, California, home surrounded by close friends. Day “had been in excellent physical health for her age, until recently contracting a serious case of pneumonia,” the foundation said in a statement to The Associated Press.


https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_56670caee4b08e945ff101fe
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 14, 2019, 11:18:33 AM
Tim Conway, Star of The Carol Burnett Show, Dies at 85

https://people.com/tv/tim-conway-dies/

I am so sorry to hear this. He was one my most favorite comedian!  :'(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 14, 2019, 11:25:16 AM
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/tim-conway-comedian-and-carol-burnett-show-star-dies-at-85-1203214644/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 14, 2019, 11:39:33 AM
Carol Burnett Show outtakes - Tim Conway's Elephant Skit

https://youtu.be/3qqE_WmagjY
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 14, 2019, 01:43:22 PM

Last night I watched Doris Day's last TV special from 1975.  And Tim Conway was one of the guests.
 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 14, 2019, 01:54:58 PM
Last night I watched Doris Day's last TV special from 1975.  And Tim Conway was one of the guests.
 

WOW, what s coincidence.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 14, 2019, 04:23:54 PM
Well, maybe there's the three: Peggy Lipton, Doris Day, Tim Conway.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 14, 2019, 04:29:04 PM
Well, maybe there's the three: Peggy Lipton, Doris Day, Tim Conway.

This is what I was thinking as well, Jeff.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on May 26, 2019, 10:52:49 PM
Doris Day, Screen Legend And Animal Rights Activist, Dead At 97

Doris Day has died at age 97, her foundation said Monday.

The legendary actress died at her Carmel Valley, California, home surrounded by close friends. Day “had been in excellent physical health for her age, until recently contracting a serious case of pneumonia,” the foundation said in a statement to The Associated Press.


https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_56670caee4b08e945ff101fe




She was a very good actress.  May she rest in peace.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 11, 2019, 07:48:26 AM
I guess you wouldn't exactly call Houston Knights a "classic" cop show; maybe it's just old (1987-1988).  :laugh:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Knights (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Knights)

I recently acquired the complete series on DVD. I didn't watch it back in its day, but I wanted to see it now because of my current obsession with Michael Pare.  ::)  :laugh:

I guess you can call me a lawbreaker, because the set is bootleg. You can easily tell the series had been videotaped at some point, and the DVDs were made from the tapes. On the discs I've played so far, I've seen snippets of commercials. The tapes were not from the first run (even though I guess you could do this in 1987-88; I got my first VCR in 1984, and it was a damn good one, too). In the episode I ran last night, I noticed the USA Network logo in the bottom right corner of the screen. Moreover, one disc had a promo for Cannon, a detective series that starred William Conrad that ran 1971-1976!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannon_(TV_series) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannon_(TV_series))

I guess Houston Knights is about a run-of-the-mill cop show for its day. The premise is downright silly: MP is a Chicago cop who gets sent off to Houston because he killed a mobster in Chicago and the mob put out a contract on him (you mean the mob was so stupid it couldn't trace him to Texas?). The music is kind of interesting, kind of Western blusey, I guess you might call it, with plenty of guitar and harmonica. I wasn't familiar with Michael Beck, who plays MP's Texas-born-and-bred partner, but I'd heard of him; I'm liking him in the role. Right now I'm running one episode on each disc just to make sure the discs play (the first one, with the premier episode, did not), and already MP and MB's constant fighting is getting a little old.

It's fun to see who pops up on these old shows besides the stars: Remember Dobbs, the bugler from F Troop :D  (James Hampton; https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0358996/ (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0358996/))?

It's also fun to see those Reagan-era clothes, especially those yard-wide shoulder pads on the women.  ;D

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 11, 2019, 11:59:47 AM
I guess you can call me a lawbreaker, because the set is bootleg.

There are so many shows out there, especially short-lived ones and ones with lots of music rights, that companies won't release, that I don't blame anyone for finding these shows from those who have them, and enjoying them. There's one show I so want to have and there's a place I can get all three seasons, and probably the only reason I haven't is that this particular offer is very pricey.

Of course, it's buyer beware with these things. You are taking a chance with quality, honesty, everything really. The only thing I have like this, so far, though I'm really tempted for so many things, is the documentary series from 1980 by Kevin Brownlow, titlked "Hollywood," which spotlights Hollywood's silent movie era.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 22, 2019, 02:07:44 PM
I just realized now I never got around to mentioning that the Wagon Train episode from July 13 was the Charles Laughton episode.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 04, 2019, 05:31:02 PM
At my job we have a flat screen TV in the kitchen that we can watch during lunch.   The company doesn't pay for premium cable, so we don't have much of a selection,  but we have two networks that we always seem to watch.

The first is Laff, which has classic sitcoms on we've been watching "Grace Under Fire",  "Home Improvement", and "Night Court".

The other channel is Buzr, which shows old game shows.  We've been seeing "Classic Concentration", "Match Game", and other old shows, laughing at the clothes, the hairstyles, and talking about the amounts of the prizes, and how cheap everything was back then.  LOL
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 04, 2019, 06:21:46 PM
The first is Laff, which has classic sitcoms on we've been watching "Grace Under Fire",  "Home Improvement", and "Night Court".

I remember Night Court. I liked that.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 04, 2019, 07:07:35 PM
I remember Night Court. I liked that.

I always liked  that show too.  I remember  when people started to say the show was cursed because the first two bailiffs died, both from lung cancer.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on August 04, 2019, 07:40:13 PM
John Larroquette and I were in the same class in grammar school in New Orleans, St Mary of the Angels.

We called him J B Larrycat.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 04, 2019, 08:43:38 PM
John Larroquette and I were in the same class in grammar school in New Orleans, St Mary of the Angels.

We called him J B Larrycat.

Really?  That's cool!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 05, 2019, 01:27:00 PM

Why did you call him that? I've always had an unexplained aversion to John Larroquette and thought he might be kind of unlikable. What did you think of him Fritz?  I was kind of not surprised when I was in Greenblatt's deli on Sunset once and I overheard some of the employees talking about him, they didn't really like him, and saying that he used to come in before he was successful and charge his orders and then he never would pay for them.  He IS in the new show Blood & Treasure I've been watching, though. Season finale tomorrow.

I often tune in to Buzzr, Chuck. I like game shows and it really is interesting to see them from 30-40 years ago! I saw a taping of the Match Game around 1980 or so. I remember sitting in the audience, but I don't remember anything else. Who were the six celebrities or anything. Gene Rayburn must've been there, right, but I really can't remember anything else about it.

Did you ever have a Gene Rayburn cocktail? One drink and your mind goes blank.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 05, 2019, 01:42:47 PM
Did you ever have a Gene Rayburn cocktail? One drink and your mind goes blank.

:laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 05, 2019, 02:19:06 PM
Why did you call him that? I've always had an unexplained aversion to John Larroquette and thought he might be kind of unlikable. What did you think of him Fritz?  I was kind of not surprised when I was in Greenblatt's deli on Sunset once and I overheard some of the employees talking about him, they didn't really like him, and saying that he used to come in before he was successful and charge his orders and then he never would pay for them.  He IS in the new show Blood & Treasure I've been watching, though. Season finale tomorrow.

He always seems to play arrogant people. I've wondered if he's that way in real life.

Quote
I often tune in to Buzzr, Chuck. I like game shows and it really is interesting to see them from 30-40 years ago! I saw a taping of the Match Game around 1980 or so. I remember sitting in the audience, but I don't remember anything else. Who were the six celebrities or anything. Gene Rayburn must've been there, right, but I really can't remember anything else about it.

Brett Somers Klugman, maybe?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Somers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Somers)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on August 05, 2019, 02:40:00 PM
Why did you call him that? I've always had an unexplained aversion to John Larroquette and thought he might be kind of unlikable. What did you think of him Fritz?  I was kind of not surprised when I was in Greenblatt's deli on Sunset once and I overheard some of the employees talking about him, they didn't really like him, and saying that he used to come in before he was successful and charge his orders and then he never would pay for them.  He IS in the new show Blood & Treasure I've been watching, though. Season finale tomorrow.

I often tune in to Buzzr, Chuck. I like game shows and it really is interesting to see them from 30-40 years ago! I saw a taping of the Match Game around 1980 or so. I remember sitting in the audience, but I don't remember anything else. Who were the six celebrities or anything. Gene Rayburn must've been there, right, but I really can't remember anything else about it.

Did you ever have a Gene Rayburn cocktail? One drink and your mind goes blank.

It was just a variation on his name, following the same stress pattern. J.B. for John Bernard. He was always JB, never John or Johnny.

He was an attention grabber in elementary school, but I didn't find him objectionable. I ran into him on Canal Street a few times in subsequent years and we exchanged pleasantries, that was about it. Very much like a businessman. He attended my high school for a while but was kicked out (I forget the infraction), and graduated from public school.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 09, 2019, 10:23:52 AM
He attended my high school for a while but was kicked out (I forget the infraction), and graduated from public school.

Probably wasn't paying his dues, heh!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 28, 2019, 08:38:46 PM
I guess you wouldn't exactly call Houston Knights a "classic" cop show; maybe it's just old (1987-1988).  :laugh:

Here's one for the books.

Just now I watched an episode of Houston Knights that was called "The White Hand." The episode first aired January 16, 1988. The plot involved a small group of college-age white supremacists/nationalists beating and eventually murdering illegal Mexican immigrants. In a conversation among the "good guys" about the problem of illegal immigration, somebody, I've already forgotten exactly who, actually said, "What are we supposed to do, build a wall to keep them out?"

I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I'm not making this up.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 29, 2019, 10:12:02 AM

I'm surprised the orange cretin wasn't a guest star on it. Did anyone say "there's good people on both sides?"


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 29, 2019, 02:10:06 PM
I'm surprised the orange cretin wasn't a guest star on it. Did anyone say "there's good people on both sides?"

We're talking about a 30-year-old cop show here. There were only good people and bad people.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 03, 2019, 09:47:45 PM
I'm surprised this wasn't posted here.


Valerie Kathryn Harper (August 22, 1939 – August 30, 2019) was an American actress. She began her career as a dancer on Broadway, making her debut in the musical Take Me Along in 1959. Harper is best remembered for her role as Rhoda Morgenstern on The Mary Tyler Moore Show (1970–1977) and its spin-off Rhoda (1974–1978). For her work on Mary Tyler Moore, she thrice received the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series, and later received the award for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Comedy Series for her work on Rhoda.

From 1986 to 1987, Harper appeared as Valerie Hogan on the sitcom Valerie. Her film appearances include roles in Freebie and the Bean (1974) and Chapter Two (1979), both of which garnered her Golden Globe Award nominations. Harper returned to stage work in her later career, appearing in several Broadway productions. In 2010, she was nominated for the Tony Award for Best Actress in a Play for her performance as Tallulah Bankhead in the play Looped.

In 2009, Harper was diagnosed with lung cancer.  She announced on March 6, 2013, that tests from a January hospital stay revealed she had leptomeningeal carcinomatosis, a rare condition in which cancer cells spread into the meninges, the membranes surrounding the brain. She said her doctors had given her as little as three months life expectancy.  Although the disease was reported to be incurable, her doctors said they were treating her with chemotherapy in an effort to slow its progress.   In April 2014, Harper said she was responding well to the treatment.  On July 30, 2015, Harper was hospitalized in Maine after falling unconscious, and taken via medevac to a larger hospital for further treatment.    She was later discharged.

In 2016, Harper continued battling cancer with treatment at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center but was well enough to appear in a short film, My Mom and the Girl, based on the experiences of director/writer Susie Singer Carter, whose mother has Alzheimer's disease. In September 2017, she made this comment: "People are saying, 'She's on her way to death and quickly'. Now it's five years instead of three months ... I'm going to fight this. I'm going to see a way."  At the time, Harper was developing a television series with Carter.  By July 2019, Harper was on a regimen of "a multitude of medications and chemotherapy drugs" and was experiencing "extreme physical and painful challenges" that require "around the clock, 24/7 care."

Harper died on the morning of August 30, 2019, in Los Angeles, at the age of 80
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on January 10, 2020, 08:16:03 PM
The younger crowd probably wouldn't recognize the name, but the guy who played Kookie in 77 Sunset Strip has died.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/edd-byrnes-once-famous-as-the-hair-combing-kookie-of-77-sunset-strip-dies-at-87/2020/01/10/0427e960-33c0-11ea-a053-dc6d944ba776_story.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT9QZBGyXjU

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 10, 2020, 08:21:01 PM
I heard about this on the radio today.

The 'oldies' station played "Cookie, Lend Me Your Comb".  The DJ said he first heard it at age 12, and thought it was stupid back then.  LOL
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on January 10, 2020, 09:46:33 PM
Of course I remember him. I used to watch 77 Sunset Strip, but not for him, for Efrem Zimbalist Jr..
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 11, 2020, 01:36:09 PM
Edd Byrnes character on 77 Sunset Strip can be comparably compared to the Fonzie character in the 70's in popularity. Girls thought he was cute and guys thought he was cool. As someone wrote: "Edd Brynes as Gerald Lloyd “Kookie” Kookson III on 77 Sunset Strip just personified cool. He had a lingo all of his own and because his character was so popular, we hung on his every word. And imitated him. We dressed like him, bought his official 'comb' and imagined him parking our cars at Dino's next to the detective agency. He was the ginchiest!"

The song Chuck referenced above got him a gold record. He also had a Christmas song one year titled "Yulesville"! He also played Vince Fontaine, a Dick Clark type music host, in Grease.

77 Sunset Strip's popularity spun off several other detective shows in different cities, like Hawaiian Eye, Surfside-6 and Bourbon Street Beat. Because the series featured a lot of music, the rights for any home media release have been problematic. Strip has shown up on the retro channel Me-TV and Warner Archive used to have selected episodes of some of the others on their Warner Archive streaming service not too long ago, but it's now defunct. These shows deserve a better fate!

I used to frequently walk down Sunset Blvd. where the fictional detective agency and Dino's restaurant were used for the series and there was an embedded homage to the show at the exact location in the sidewalk. I'd always step on it and snap my fingers twice.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 11, 2020, 01:37:31 PM

In Kookie's lingo:

The beam came to me! Don't tune me out. It's the weekend! Are you deep down blue? After a dark seven any of you mushroom people want to go out tonight to the Cloud Nine Dance Hall and do the twist? Listen to the little men!

"The Twist" also became a craze while this show was on and Kookie had to do it! I love this clip from the series:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKMX-6tl6Pc

One reason I like a lot of these Warner Bros. detective series is they always found time for some wonderful musical interludes. (Also a rights problem for video releases, though.) Imagine any show nowadays stopping to show a 2 1/2 minute dance sequence for the sheer joy of it! Movies used to do that, too.

"Wait! I'm still sending..."

For some added enjoyment, pull up another tab and find a video of Chubby Checker singing "The Twist" and use that for the sound instead of the original episode music. It works, too.

 "You're getting the beat!"
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 11, 2020, 01:40:46 PM

I repeat, we need to do more things "for the sheer joy of it."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on January 11, 2020, 02:03:37 PM
Edd Byrnes character on 77 Sunset Strip can be comparably compared to the Fonzie character in the 70's in popularity. Girls thought he was cute and guys thought he was cool. As someone wrote: "Edd Brynes as Gerald Lloyd “Kookie” Kookson III on 77 Sunset Strip just personified cool. He had a lingo all of his own and because his character was so popular, we hung on his every word. And imitated him. We dressed like him, bought his official 'comb' and imagined him parking our cars at Dino's next to the detective agency. He was the ginchiest!"

The song Chuck referenced above got him a gold record. He also had a Christmas song one year titled "Yulesville"! He also played Vince Fontaine, a Dick Clark type music host, in Grease.

77 Sunset Strip's popularity spun off several other detective shows in different cities, like Hawaiian Eye, Surfside-6 and Bourbon Street Beat. Because the series featured a lot of music, the rights for any home media release have been problematic. Strip has shown up on the retro channel Me-TV and Warner Archive used to have selected episodes of some of the others on their Warner Archive streaming service not too long ago, but it's now defunct. These shows deserve a better fate!

I used to frequently walk down Sunset Blvd. where the fictional detective agency and Dino's restaurant were used for the series and there was an embedded homage to the show at the exact location in the sidewalk. I'd always step on it and snap my fingers twice.

 :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

I wish I had known that when a number of Brokies and I walked around the area back in 2010!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 11, 2020, 04:07:43 PM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-S3xSKyBEEF8/V8soBU-v1uI/AAAAAAAAA44/wng2KGR6o6IvQ8SPvCyxrS8E9EzXHWR0QCLcB/s1600/77%2BSunset%2BStrip%2BSidewalk%2Bcommoroation.jpg)

The sign says...

WB
The Warner Brother's Television Series
"77 SUNSET STRIP"
Filmed on This Site
From October 19, 1958 to February 7, 1964
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 11, 2020, 04:16:24 PM
^^^
That area has undergone so many changes it's now unrecognizable to the series. The last straw for any resemblance is a huge construction project that wiped out the signature parking lot view. The City of West Hollywood approved the construction plans with the proviso of removing the 77 Sunset Strip sidewalk commemoration and it was to be replaced somewhere there after the construction was completed a year or more ago. I've not had occasion to walk by there since then, so I don't know if that's happened. I have looked out car and bus windows to try and see, but that doesn't really work. I should make a sojourn up there at some point and try to find out.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on January 11, 2020, 06:02:07 PM
I hope it's still there, thanks for letting me know no matter what!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 12, 2020, 01:48:06 PM
The younger crowd probably wouldn't recognize the name, but the guy who played Kookie in 77 Sunset Strip has died.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/edd-byrnes-once-famous-as-the-hair-combing-kookie-of-77-sunset-strip-dies-at-87/2020/01/10/0427e960-33c0-11ea-a053-dc6d944ba776_story.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT9QZBGyXjU

I might try to find a copy of his autobiography. Might make interesting reading.  ::)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 12, 2020, 01:48:12 PM
^^^

Fritz, I found a couple postings online from last year where they said they saw it. I tried using google street view to look, but there's a truck obstructing the view, wouldn't you know? There's a newish restaurant that opened there called Tesse and I saw two exterior photos, one day, one night, that seem to indicate it was replaced and located in between the two new buildings where the Dino's port cochere would've been, where Kookie parked the cars. From those photos, though, I can't really get my exact bearings direction-wise, but the important thing is that it is there!

(https://discourse-cloud-file-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/business5/uploads/berkeleyfoodie/original/3X/4/f/4f815cc13e9f6b42bae7f60b63708fd365537034.jpg)

See the lower right corner? That looks to be it!  :D

"...snap...snap..."

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: richchan on January 12, 2020, 02:57:32 PM
Buck Henry Dies at 89

Another link on the Edd Byrnes story at the bottom of the obit was this one on another giant of the era: Buck Henry. I was not aware of how much he influenced popular music and comedy during the 60's and 70's.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/09/movies/buck-henry-dead.html

Credits include The Graduate, Get Smart, the samurai sketches with John Belushi on SNL, Catch-22, Candy, and Heaven Can Wait.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on January 12, 2020, 04:06:11 PM
^^^

Fritz, I found a couple postings online from last year where they said they saw it. I tried using google street view to look, but there's a truck obstructing the view, wouldn't you know? There's a newish restaurant that opened there called Tesse and I saw two exterior photos, one day, one night, that seem to indicate it was replaced and located in between the two new buildings where the Dino's port cochere would've been, where Kookie parked the cars. From those photos, though, I can't really get my exact bearings direction-wise, but the important thing is that it is there!

(https://discourse-cloud-file-uploads.s3.dualstack.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/business5/uploads/berkeleyfoodie/original/3X/4/f/4f815cc13e9f6b42bae7f60b63708fd365537034.jpg)

See the lower right corner? That looks to be it!  :D

"...snap...snap..."

Great! Thanks!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 12, 2020, 04:13:05 PM
Buck Henry Dies at 89


I didn't recognize his name, but after reading the article, you can see how influential he was.  Thanks for the link!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on January 12, 2020, 05:00:37 PM
I thought that Buck Henry was gay, probably because a character he played in The Man Who Fell to Earth was, but apparently not.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 12, 2020, 06:50:02 AM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned that Robert Conrad, of Wild, Wild West fame, died last Saturday, Feb. 8, at age 84.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on February 18, 2020, 03:34:20 PM
I  just saw posted on Facebook that Ja'net Dubois was found dead today.

She was 74, and best known for playing neighbor Willona Woods on "Good Times".
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 18, 2020, 04:28:44 PM
I  just saw posted on Facebook that Ja'net Dubois was found dead today.

She was 74, and best known for playing neighbor Willona Woods on "Good Times".

Sad news.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 07, 2020, 08:55:57 PM
MeTV continues to show "new" episodes of Wagon Train. Carolyn Jones was the guest star in this morning's episode, first broadcast in November 1961. Afterward I was paging through my episode guide and discovered something I hadn't known before: Bette Davis guested in at least three episodes, not just the two I knew about. So Davis appeared in "The Ella Lindstrom Story" (Feb. 1959), "The Elizabeth McQueeny Story" (Oct. 1959), and "The Bettina May Story" (Dec. 1961).

I need to see if I can find the episode guide on line again, and this time copy it into a searchable document. It might be nice to who else made multiple guest appearances. (I'm sure Ann Blyth appeared at least twice).
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 08, 2020, 12:24:50 PM
I came across the tail end of an episode of Laredo yesterday that it appears Eve Arden was in.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 08, 2020, 12:29:25 PM
I came across the tail end of an episode of Laredo yesterday that it appears Eve Arden was in.

That would have been something, to see Even Arden in a Western. I had  a crush on Peter Brown, except I didn't know that's what it was. Same deal with Kent McCord on Adam-12.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Flyboy on March 08, 2020, 07:36:05 PM
Everyone LOVED Peter Brown, as I recall, no matter WHAT their sexual persuasion!! lol.... :o :P :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 09, 2020, 11:57:49 AM
Everyone LOVED Peter Brown, as I recall, no matter WHAT their sexual persuasion!! lol.... :o :P :laugh:

I did a quick look-up of Peter Brown (died 3/21/16). I was interested to learn that while he played Deputy Johnny McKay on Lawman, (1958-1962), he made "guest appearances" playing the same role in episodes of Sugarfoot (1959) and Maverick (1960).
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 09, 2020, 01:19:26 PM
Definitely a looker.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 09, 2020, 03:43:25 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/1d/96/d6/1d96d6c416e2af116a8a1caf10041bc0--tv-westerns-cowboys.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 09, 2020, 04:26:06 PM
Is it just me?

Did guys really wear pink shirts in the west?  Seems every western TV series has guys in pink shirts. (Doug McClure on The Virginian usually had a royal blue one.)

A few examples:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/16/d6/51/16d6518b299d18d6bc304a7e96ad3047.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/70/df/86/70df8641ad9548e81434ee7f1585b7ec.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 09, 2020, 04:26:53 PM
The Big Valley
(https://tvseriesfinale.com/assets/bigvalley04a.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 09, 2020, 04:27:51 PM
Lancer
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JGmxJGXPVfA/TL-669q2RxI/AAAAAAAAACc/ZKjSdD9LreE/Lancer+Men.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 09, 2020, 04:28:36 PM
Laredo
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/57/5e/26/575e26a74a93e607db0407336dee4775.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 09, 2020, 04:29:06 PM
Bonanza
(https://s.hdnux.com/photos/26/00/60/5770269/6/920x920.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 09, 2020, 04:29:45 PM
Gunsmoke
(https://talknorway.no/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/James-Arness-Gunsmoke.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 09, 2020, 06:45:45 PM
Lancer
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JGmxJGXPVfA/TL-669q2RxI/AAAAAAAAACc/ZKjSdD9LreE/Lancer+Men.jpg)

Poor James Stacey did not have a good life.  :(

I once knew of a woman who liked Lancer so much she wrote fanfiction based on it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 09, 2020, 06:50:40 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/236x/1d/96/d6/1d96d6c416e2af116a8a1caf10041bc0--tv-westerns-cowboys.jpg)

Now there was a handsome young man.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 09, 2020, 06:53:09 PM
Bonanza
(https://s.hdnux.com/photos/26/00/60/5770269/6/920x920.jpg)

Sheesh. Michael Landon looks about 12.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 10, 2020, 11:10:14 AM
I mentioned to someone not too long ago I think that on the Bonanza series, all of Joe Cartwright's sons were from different women and they didn't believe me. Heh!

The Bonanza handyman character introduced after Pernell Roberts left, played by David Canary, was named Candy. Didn't audiences think that was strange? Anyone ever heard of a male person named Candy. I thought it was odd, probably because that's my sister's name.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 10, 2020, 11:17:21 AM
Sheesh. Michael Landon looks about 12.

Michael Landon's son used to frequent the video store I was employed at. He was gay and I always wanted to ask him what his father thought of that, as he was known for his family shows after Bonanza. It wasn't appropriate to do so, obviously.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 10, 2020, 11:47:24 AM
I mentioned to someone not too long ago I think that on the Bonanza series, all of Joe Cartwright's sons were from different women and they didn't believe me. Heh!

I do! They did. I remember that from somewhere. (And I know you meant to say Ben Cartwright. You were just thinking about Michael Landon/Little Joe.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 10, 2020, 12:12:08 PM
I'm worried about my memory lately. In another post I made today I couldn't think of the name of a website. I just remembered it, so I'm going to go fix that.

Anyone take Claritin? Does it help?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 10, 2020, 01:47:55 PM
I'm worried about my memory lately. In another post I made today I couldn't think of the name of a website. I just remembered it, so I'm going to go fix that.

I hear ya. I'm worried about mine, too.

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Anyone take Claritin? Does it help?

Dumb question, but did you check the label for the symptoms its supposed to help to see if you have those symptoms? I ask because my problem is always congestion, and antihistamines are for symptoms (itchy, watery eyes, and so forth) that I don't have, so I don't use them.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 04, 2020, 09:43:48 AM
This morning MeTV broadcast the premier episode of Wagon Train. It was called "The Willy Moran Story," and the guest star was Ernest Borgnine. The episode originally aired September 18, 1957 (which makes it 62 years old),  and the cast included Marjorie Lord, Andrew Duggan, and Kevin Hagen.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on April 16, 2020, 01:38:26 PM
Brian Dennehy, Versatile Performer in ‘Tommy Boy,’ ‘Death of a Salesman,’ Dead at 81

https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-news/brian-dennehy-actor-dead-obituary-985299/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 27, 2020, 12:16:35 PM
Over the past few days on YouTube I've been watching Casey Jones. It was a railroad-themed Western that ran for a year in 1957-58 and had nothing whatsoever to do with the historical Casey Jones. It starred the Skipper himself, Alan Hale, Jr. I'd say it's primarily of interest to us train fans, but some of the train-related things I've found quite interesting.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 18, 2020, 04:17:15 PM
I just read the "Eddie Haskell" (Ken Osmond), of Leave It to Beaver fame, has died at age 76.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on May 18, 2020, 06:41:30 PM
I just read the "Eddie Haskell" (Ken Osmond), of Leave It to Beaver fame, has died at age 76.



I'm sorry to hear that.  Ken was a good actor, but Eddie was the kind of goofball that you wouldn't want your kids to hang out with.  Eddie was always so full of crap with his fake compliments, and June Cleaver knew it.  Ken Osmond appeared in the theatrical film version of "Leave it to Beaver" in 1997 as the dad of Eddie Haskell, at least I believe he played the dad.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on May 18, 2020, 06:43:02 PM
Sheesh. Michael Landon looks about 12.



Michael Landon was a great actor and very handsome.  I always loved him as Charles "Pa" Ingalls in "Little House on the Prairie" (1974-1983) .
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 19, 2020, 08:07:39 AM


I'm sorry to hear that.  Ken was a good actor, but Eddie was the kind of goofball that you wouldn't want your kids to hang out with.  Eddie was always so full of crap with his fake compliments, and June Cleaver knew it.  Ken Osmond appeared in the theatrical film version of "Leave it to Beaver" in 1997 as the dad of Eddie Haskell, at least I believe he played the dad.

There was an appreciation of Ken Osmond on the Today show this morning. He went on to become a police officer in LA and got shot in the line of duty.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: oceansbetween on June 04, 2020, 06:08:17 AM
Over the past few days on YouTube I've been watching Casey Jones. It was a railroad-themed Western that ran for a year in 1957-58 and had nothing whatsoever to do with the historical Casey Jones. It starred the Skipper himself, Alan Hale, Jr. I'd say it's primarily of interest to us train fans, but some of the train-related things I've found quite interesting.

Alan Hale Jr. appeared in an episode of The Wild Wild West: The Night of the Sabatini Death (1969). From IMDb: The payoff for Gilligan fans is in the final minutes of the episode, as Agent Brown is leaving West's private train "The Wanderer". West asks what Brown has planned next. Brown (Hale) replies that he's going to take some time off from the Secret Service and pursue a long time dream of spending some time alone on a tropical island. As Hale exits the train, the iconic closing theme music from Gilligan's Island plays over the closing credits.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49970039751_92f89a8b2b_m.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 04, 2020, 06:46:19 AM
Alan Hale Jr. appeared in an episode of The Wild Wild West: The Night of the Sabatini Death (1969). From IMDb: The payoff for Gilligan fans is in the final minutes of the episode, as Agent Brown is leaving West's private train "The Wanderer". West asks what Brown has planned next. Brown (Hale) replies that he's going to take some time off from the Secret Service and pursue a long time dream of spending some time alone on a tropical island. As Hale exits the train, the iconic closing theme music from Gilligan's Island plays over the closing credits.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49970039751_92f89a8b2b_m.jpg)

Wonderful!  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 04, 2020, 01:43:20 PM
^^^

Yes, love it, thanks for that info!

Co-incidentally, I happened to watch an episode of My Favorite Martian last night that guest-starred Alan Hale, Jr. He played a Texas oil-tycoon millionaire who used his money to build a rocket to be sent to Mars (we hadn't even been to the moon yet in 1964) and was having a contest for the one person who would pilot it. Of course, being stranded on earth, "Uncle Martin" wanted the position.

That episode was aired in May, 1964, and Gilligan's Island premiered in September. When he did the "Martian" episode he'd already filmed the Gilligan's Island pilot months earlier.

By the way, Sherwood Schwartz and his son (Elroy--heh! His boy Elroy...) were partially involved in aspects of My Favorite Martian, including some scripts. It's been noted that My Favorite Martian has similarities to Gilligan's Island...a character stranded on a...planet...trying to find a way to repair his ship (spaceship) to get off and back home.

Over the past few days on YouTube I've been watching Casey Jones. It was a railroad-themed Western [...] I'd say it's primarily of interest to us train fans, but some of the train-related things I've found quite interesting.

If you're a train fan, you must also have liked the Dale Robertson western series The Iron Horse.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 04, 2020, 08:01:01 PM
If you're a train fan, you must also have liked the Dale Robertson western series The Iron Horse.

I don't recall seeing that as kid. I haven't checked, but I think it didn't last too long. It may have been on after my childhood bedtime, or opposite something else we watched.

A few years ago a friend made me a set of DVDs off some nostalgia channel or other, including the pilot movie, Scalplock, so I've seen almost all of it now. The name Scalplock came from the name of Dale Robertson's fictional railroad, the Buffalo Pass, Scalplock, and Defiance. Gary Collins costarred in the TV series.

As with almost all Westerns with trains back then (including the train in Casey Jones), the Iron Horse was the Sierra Railroad's locomotive #3. She is best known as the Hooterville Cannonball of Petticoat Junction fame, but she was also the train that arrived at noon in High Noon.

In the mid 1960s the Tyco Company got the license to put out some HO train sets based on both Petticoat Junction and The Iron Horse--easy enough to do since they both featured the same locomotive. The Iron Horse set included a flatcar with two gunfighters shooting at each other around a large crate, a passenger-baggage combination coach, and a full passenger car that I think was supposed to represent Dale Robertson's private car. The flatcar is highly collectible. It's quite rare, as it appeared only in the Iron Horse sets. It's even rarer to find the car complete because the gunfighter figures were very delicate and easily broke off the car. It's even rarer still to find the flatcar complete and in its original box.

I have several of the Petticoat Junction and Iron Horse sets in my collection.

You can read all about #3 and other trains used in movies and TV shows in The Movie Railroads, by Larry Jensen (1981). The book includes lots of railroad themed movies that I'd never heard of and would love to see.

And that, I know, is far more information than you wanted!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 05, 2020, 10:49:47 AM
But I liked reading it, Jeff!

I watched a movie recently that mostly all takes place on a train. The Narrow Margin (1952).

I've always liked trains, and wanted one growing up, but the notion was always dampened, being told that we had no room for it unless I wanted to keep putting it together and taking it down again. At some point when they came out with a small train set called Postage Stamp trains, or something like that, I had one of those.


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on June 05, 2020, 10:52:19 AM
It transported thick soup.  ;)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 05, 2020, 10:56:50 AM
I don't recall seeing that as kid. I haven't checked, but I think it didn't last too long. It may have been on after my childhood bedtime, or opposite something else we watched.

It was on for two seasons and was up against The Monkees (NBC) both seasons, and Gilligan's Island (CBS) for one of the seasons.

Gary Collins costarred in the TV series.

And guess who was a regular in the second season? Ellen Burstyn!
(She was credited as Ellen McRae until 1967.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 05, 2020, 10:59:26 AM
It transported thick soup.  ;)

To quote a '20's expression, "Oh you kid!"

But now I fixed it so people will think "you" are crazy!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 05, 2020, 11:39:53 AM
It was on for two seasons and was up against The Monkees (NBC) both seasons, and Gilligan's Island (CBS) for one of the seasons.

That might explain why we didn't watch The Iron Horse! Or maybe not.  :">

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And guess who was a regular in the second season? Ellen Burstyn!
(She was credited as Ellen McRae until 1967.)

Now that you mention it, I remember seeing her. There was also a cute young guy named Robert Random, and a big blond hunk named Roger Torrey (maybe better known for The Beverley Hillbillies!).

And I'm glad you enjoyed my post. It makes me sad that you were denied a train set when you were a child.  :( My Petticoat Junction set was one of the best Christmas gifts I ever recceived.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on June 05, 2020, 01:41:08 PM
To quote a '20's expression, "Oh you kid!"

But now I fixed it so people will think "you" are crazy!  :laugh:

Par for the course!  ;D

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 05, 2020, 03:10:28 PM
^^^

Turns out I made a worse faux pas on the Current Events thread, you may have noticed.
 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on June 05, 2020, 03:51:23 PM
 ;D

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 02, 2020, 11:48:02 AM
Some friends wonder why I like to watch Laugh-In if I've already seen them, because you've heard all the jokes.
But, to me, like songs, at different times in your life or different things going on around you or just more life
experiences, can change the way you experience some humor.

In a recent episode where the "Mod World" segment was concerning our healthcare system, they did a number of jokes about people wearing hospital "masks" and having experienced that for several months now, those jokes, which at other times may have been silly or slightly amusing, were now downright hilarious.  ;D :P :laugh:

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on July 02, 2020, 11:50:24 AM
Yes, things like that can be amazingly, if unintentionally, prescient.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 02, 2020, 01:44:19 PM
 
One thing I've learned about rewatching Laugh-In is that all of the problems the U.S. had in 1968...they're still problems!

Fritz, when Laugh-In was on (1968-1973) do you recall, if you watched it, any of the LGBT humor contained in it?

I was thinking while watching these that, well, most people in the country were not exposed to anything to do with gay people. It wasn't talked about, at least openly, nor did most people ever even think they knew a gay person. If a character on "any" TV show was gay it was only hinted at and never forthright, and hinting didn't mean a general audience knew what they were talking about. (I mean, a whole lot of people didn't even know Liberace was gay and if they didn't think he was...!) I didn't really even know I was when I was 15. Although it was obvious I was then, when I look back. Nowadays I would've known.

So I was thinking that Laugh-In was probably the only TV show that routinely even brought up anything to do with LGBT issues and/or people etc. And they could do it, because it was done in quick jokes. Watching these episodes now there were LGBT jokes, at least one, in EVERY episode.

Now what does that mean? Well, some of it was making fun of the stereotypes, obviously. That gay men want to be women, or act like women. In the second season Alan Sues came along and even though I didn't actually think about him being gay myself back then, he obviously was...the sort of campy gay person that comedy would permit, like Paul Lynde or Charles Nelson Reilly. Not sexually threatening to any one.

There were inside jokes on the show that hinted quite publicly. I mean, Rock Hudson was on the show and after one joke he pops up on the screen and says "How does that grab you secret lovers?"

In another show in quick succession Rock Hudson says a line and then Tiny Tim says a line and then Lena Horne has this line:
"It's getting so on this show you can't tell the fruits from the nuts."

 :o

The show also has many "Gay Lib" jokes. The show uses topics in news and entertainment so they can bring it up. There's jokes about:
"Therese and Isabelle." Christine Jorgensen. Truman Capote. Lots and lots about "Myra Breckenridge," first the book and then the movie.
There are jokes from the news about Margaret Rutherford's nephew who had a sex change.

There are several about a group of homosexuals who wanted to take over Alpine County California by getting elected and turning it into a gay city/county.
They even blew up the article about it from the L.A. Times and put it on an easel for reference to it. Look up Alpine County on wikipedia! Who still knows about that?

There's often jokes about men marrying men on the show.

And I have a question, Fritz: When did the term "bears" become known? Some jokes are just in the eye of the beholder. There's one that I think of as a gay joke, simply because Alan Sues is doing it. I doubt it was written as a gay joke.

We see several football players on a bench and the coach standing nearby. (There were several running gags using this setup.)
Alan Sues, as Grabowski, has been in the game and he runs into view from the football field, his helmet askew, muddy face and football uniform torn to shreds.

COACH: "What happened Grabowski?"
GRABOWSKI: (out of breath) "Coach...  I didn't know the Chicago Bears were real bears."

I always laugh at that thinking of Alan Sues being out on the field with "gay bears." Of course it wasn't written that way.
Heh! But I wonder when that term became slang for guys like that?

Of course, men in drag was overused, but still amusing.

Many LGBT people were on the show: Alan Sues, Judy Carne, Lily Tomlin, Rock Hudson, Charles Nelson Reilly, Laurence Harvey, Michael Greer, Truman Capote, Paul Lynde, Gore Vidal to name a few offhand...

Anyhoo...I wonder what a whole compilation of LGBT humor from this show would look like? How young people would feel about it now? Would they just think all of it as offensive or could they appreciate it. In long ago days "visible at all costs" meant putting up with some kinds of humor that might diminish one as a person...

(People being fat was something really accepted back in the day for comedy and now, specifically when it's targeted to someone, it seems really cruel. Mama Cass and Totie Fields were routinely singled out in that regard.)

I could go on and on, but I'll stop for the moment!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on July 02, 2020, 01:52:41 PM
Yes, a lot of that humor just went over my head back then!

I certainly remember Alan Sues!

Not sure when bears started coming to the fore, certainly by the mid 70's there were bears at the DC Eagle and such.

And I do remember that people took the threat of taking over Alpine County very seriously! Heard about that even here on the East Coast.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on July 02, 2020, 01:56:14 PM
Speaking of fat people being singled out, I especially remember Don Wilson as host of Jack Benny being made fun of about being fat, even on radio. And he went along with the gag, no way to know how willingly.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 03, 2020, 03:07:31 PM

Besides Laugh-In, I've recently watched episodes of Red Skelton, Carol Burnett and The Rich Little Show.

Looking back on those times, that particular strain of humor is very awkward and feels very mean. The Carol Burnett show didn't usually make light of that unless it was a man, like Harvey Norman, dressed as a woman. Skelton's show often did. And Laugh-In did. One of the regulars, Johnny Brown, often had to make jokes about himself. He did it with a smile, but you wonder. Others did it at his expense, too.

James Coco was a guest on one episode and he made a fat joke, paused, and then said "I hate fat jokes." During a "party" segment James Coco did a joke with Johnny Brown, not weight-related, and after the joke and a pause Johnny says, "By the way, I hate fat jokes, too."  In another episode the guest star did a weight joke about Mama Cass and after delivering the punchline he paused and said, "Sorry Mama."  It seems they, or some, were aware of the possible sensitivity issues.

But, again, all sorts of things are made fun of, gay people, ugly people, races, height...   They did some jokes with a hugely tall basketball player at one time, I forget the name at the moment, maybe Lew Alcindor?, and he expressed some eye rolling at some of the tall jokes. And Willie Shoemaker was a guest and did a couple dozen jokes that were height related. It didn't seem to bother him, he was a great sport and extremely funny. When Dan Blocker was a guest his bulk was the punchline of many a joke. I guess with fat people, though, it's assumed they're only fat because it's their fault, and not so with height.

Nowadays it seems everyone is looking for something to be offended about. Occasionally humor goes too far, but you can also learn a great deal about the human condition from it, too.

P.S.:  This may sound odd to some people, but as I've said before, my criteria in voting for any candidate is that having a sense of humor is paramount. People with great senses of humor are usually very intelligent. Humor lets you see things from different points of view. If you can't do that, how can you lead all sorts of different constituencies.




Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 03, 2020, 03:53:38 PM
Not sure when bears started coming to the fore, certainly by the mid 70's there were bears at the DC Eagle and such.

I tried looking up any origin and use of that term. I didn't find anything really specific. Some things I did find:

--In San Francisco in the 1970's, "any" hairy man of whatever shape was referred to as a 'bear' until the term was appropriated by larger men, and other words had to be used to describe hairy other-shaped men such as otter (slim), cub (young bear on the way), or wolf (hairy, medium build). The word manatee describes a big, hairless man, i.e. a bear without hair.

--More recent additions: Panda (or Panda Bear) – A bear of Asian descent, and Polar Bear – An older bear whose facial and body hair is predominantly or entirely white or gray.

--A smaller number of lesbians, particularly those who are butch, also participate in bear culture, referring to themselves with the distinct label of ursula.
(Ursula?)

--The term bear was popularized by Richard Bulger, who, along with his then partner Chris Nelson, founded Bear Magazine in 1987. There is contention surrounding whether Bulger originated the term and the subculture's conventions. George Mazzei wrote an article for The Advocate in 1979 called "Who's Who in the Zoo?", that characterized gay men as seven types of animals, including bears.

So, all this does provide an answer to my question about whether, when the Alan Sues joke aired, it "could" be taken as a gay joke, whether or not written as one, and the answer is: No.      But it is now!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on July 03, 2020, 06:18:37 PM
Well, Ursula means little she-bear in Latin. We had an Ursula at work, and her nickname was Bärchen (little bear, the diminutive is neuter and doesn't differentiate by sex).

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 11, 2020, 10:52:58 PM
This  morning I caught a couple of episodes of Have Gun, Will Travel (Western, starred Richard Boone) on MeTV. One of the supporting characters, who works in the hotel in San Francisco where Paladin, Boone's character, lives, is a stereotypical Chinese man, complete with long braid down his back, and the character is known as, and only addressed as, Hey Boy.  :o  I thought to myself, His appearance might possibly be historically correct for San Francisco circa 1870, but they could never get away with that character name today.

(Imagine, the show was a Western, and told some pretty good stories--and it was only a half an hour long.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 21, 2020, 07:59:12 PM
Anybody else seen the two "vintage" (1984) episodes of Jeopardy! that have run so far this week? Alex Trebek talked fast like an auctioneer! I'd forgotten that there used to be a five-game limit for winners. Now I remember that at the time I thought it was a bad idea to remove that limit.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on July 21, 2020, 08:13:31 PM
This  morning I caught a couple of episodes of Have Gun, Will Travel (Western, starred Richard Boone) on MeTV. One of the supporting characters, who works in the hotel in San Francisco where Paladin, Boone's character, lives, is a stereotypical Chinese man, complete with long braid down his back, and the character is known as, and only addressed as, Hey Boy.  :o  I thought to myself, His appearance might possibly be historically correct for San Francisco circa 1870, but they could never get away with that character name today.

(Imagine, the show was a Western, and told some pretty good stories--and it was only a half an hour long.)


And the female equivalent, on the radio version, was Miss Wong, but on the TV version, Hey Girl.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 22, 2020, 12:31:07 PM
Anybody else seen the two "vintage" (1984) episodes of Jeopardy! that have run so far this week? Alex Trebek talked fast like an auctioneer! I'd forgotten that there used to be a five-game limit for winners. Now I remember that at the time I thought it was a bad idea to remove that limit.

I'm sure they removed the limit for ratings. People will start tuning in to see how long someone can go. But if you're lucky enough to be a contestant and have to go up against one of these people, it must suck. I'd rather they kept it five times because it gives someone else a chance at the prize money.

I don't happen to like watching the show when a contestant picks questions from all over the board, either. I like the rhythm of starting at the top and going to the bottom of one category. One might say that you would know the answer regardless if you know it, but if you don't, it doesn't help to figure it out if you're changing subjects and difficulty of questions...supposedly the questions are ranked in each column in order of difficulty, though how they determine that I don't know.

EnnisDelMark (Mark Kirby) -- he's a forum member, his cousin was on an episode of Jeopardy a couple years ago. He didn't win, but he did pretty well.

When I was in college I applied to be a contestant on the show when it was still done in NYC with Art Fleming. Not long after I applied the show was cancelled. In 1978 when they ran another daytime version on NBC, I applied to be on that one, and shortly thereafter it was cancelled. You can thank the current version for being on so long because I have never applied to be on it.  ;D

By the way, I'm sure some people breeze through the process, but in my experience applying to be on a game show is like applying for a job. It's not fun and can be very time consuming. Before I had a steady job here I applied for lots of game shows while I was looking for jobs, too. A couple I particularly remember were for $20,000 Pyramid (or whatever amount it was then) and The Joker's Wild.  I was very disillusioned after applying for one game show and I got very far in the process, but wasn't selected and because this had happened before and I was getting frustrated I went up to one of the people who worked in that capacity afterwards and asked them why I didn't get selected? (Let me say that in a lot of the forms you fill out for applications, the form actually said if you are not selected it may be because of "criteria we're looking for in our particular show's format" that you are not allowed access to. In other words, it's "casting" and you can't sue us.) Anyway, I asked once after one that I thought I had a real chance for, especially because some others who were idiots got in, and, at first, I got some nebulous answer that meant nothing and I pressed longer while the woman got flustered that I wouldn't leave her alone and she blurted out, "Frankly, you're too tall for our set, your head wouldn't be in the shot. (I'm 6'5".) The way she said it, I totally believed her, especially as she looked horrified that she'd said it in the first place.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 22, 2020, 12:54:59 PM
I'm sure they removed the limit for ratings. People will start tuning in to see how long someone can go. But if you're lucky enough to be a contestant and have to go up against one of these people, it must suck. I'd rather they kept it five times because it gives someone else a chance at the prize money.

Of course, if they hadn't lifted the limit, we would never have really gotten to know Ken Jennings. I always liked him (unlike James Holzhauer, who I find smirky and odious), I still think they should get Ken Jennings to replace Alex Trebek when Trebek steps down.


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I don't happen to like watching the show when a contestant picks questions from all over the board, either.

I don't like that, either. My memory has gotten poor, but I don't remember that much happening before, again, the odious Holzhauer.


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When I was in college I applied to be a contestant on the show when it was still done in NYC with Art Fleming.

I remember the Art Fleming years. Again my bad memory, but I'd swear, at least where I grew up, that the show was on at lunch time when I was in ... elementary school, and that we had it on while I was eating lunch.

(In my day, if you lived close enough to the school you were allowed to go home for lunch. I never ate in a school cafeteria until I was 12 and in junior high school. This was so far back in ancient history that they hadn't yet invented middle school.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 23, 2020, 12:56:28 PM
I still think they should get Ken Jennings to replace Alex Trebek when Trebek steps down.

I'd go along with that. I hadn't thought about that, but I think he'd be good.

I remember the Art Fleming years. Again my bad memory, but I'd swear, at least where I grew up, that the show was on at lunch time when I was in ... elementary school, and that we had it on while I was eating lunch.

No, you're right, it was on at lunch time. We never see clips of those years, I wonder if NBC erased all the tapes of that show? They erased a huge amount of game shows (almost all of Hollywood Squares in the 60's) at one time.

I never saw Art Fleming in person, but after I moved to CA, one of the next times I was at the airport I heard on the loudspeaker: "Would Art Fleming please come to the courtesy phone. Art Fleming please come to the courtesy phone." Of course, I suppose there could be someone else with that name. I don't know why I remember that.

I also remember his cameo in Airplane 2 (1982).  I looked for the clip on youtube. There's a video "Airplane 2: Classics Part Two" with 3 mins. 47 secs. of joke clips edited together. The one I'm talking about starts at 2:40.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dapalh7BjM

Did you watch it? The thing is they cut out the line after Art Fleming says: "Alright, contestant 38." The person then says something like, "I'll take Air Disasters for $40, Art."  (Or maybe there's another little clip, I haven't seen the movie in years!)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 23, 2020, 01:18:09 PM
Jeff, I was just looking on youtube: They have some of the episodes from the 1978-79 NBC version. In that one, the format was that there were 3 contestants in the first round. The lowest score dropped out so there were two contestants in the second round. In the final Jeopardy for the winner they had a board filled with questions and to win you had to complete a row across, up or down, or diagonally!

If you are interested, I'd suggest reading the wiki page about Jeopardy! which I've just been doing. There are so many fascinating things about all the seasons and some others, like a primetime version, I didn't know about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeopardy!

You'll also learn things like: Merv Griffin's original title for the show was "What's the Question." Or: Jeopardy! was not the first game show to give contestants the answers and require the questions. That format had previously been used by the Gil Fates-hosted program CBS Television Quiz, which aired from July 1941 until May 1942.

There was a TV program in 1941-42?

If you want to mention or discuss any of that, feel free!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 23, 2020, 01:56:15 PM
I can't seem to get a link to copy, but, OMG, John McCain--that John McCain--was a contestant on Jeopardy! in 1965. Two years later he was a POW.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 23, 2020, 02:56:16 PM

I didn't read that! Crazy!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: morrobay on July 25, 2020, 11:38:39 AM
Christmas in July takes a back burner today...one of the perqs of having Sling, they're showing Dick Van Dyke today.


thefilmdetective
Today at 12PM ET, we are celebrating the many years of humor Carl Reiner brought to households with episodes of the show he created, wrote, and produced, THE DICK VAN DYKE SHOW (1961-1966)!

Based on Carl Reiner's own work and family experiences, the Petrie family features comedy writer Rob played by Dick Van Dyke, Mary Tyler Moore as Laura, and Larry Mathews as Ritchie. Watch today at 12PM ET on Sling TV,

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 25, 2020, 12:24:31 PM
^^^

I have been watching DVD for the past three months! I decided to buy the series set in January or so because it was great sales price...it was something I'd wanted to do for years. I grew up when it was on, too young in its first years, but I thought over the years I'd seen most all the episodes. I've been surprised to find out how many I actually hadn't seen before and yet some of them I'd seen a dozen times, it seemed. I'm not a big fan of all the flashback episodes they did. Too many. Reiner said it was to show more background of Rob & Laura, sort of like knowing people's history making you like and understand them more.

It's the only sitcom from the early days that I know of that dared even hint in at least two episodes that a character was gay, too. That surprised me...of course they had to do it from the accepted stereotype of the day, but still, it surprised me.

Every dvd of this set has extras on it which are mostly fascinating. Most of them are a few minutes. There are award show clips, some Me-TV commercials, interviews about certain shows, several episodes have audio commentary with Reiner and Van Dyke, one has commentary with a writer, photo galleries, there's a retrospective special they did round 20 years ago, a whole melange of things that add spice to the endeavour every time you change to a new DVD. One of the extras on the DVD is a Hollywood Bowl appearance by MTM and DVD where they sang the lyrics to the theme song. (I was there! It was a night of music from television.)

A couple years ago they had started colorizing a couple episodes at a time and airing them as specials, like they do every year for I Love Lucy. Reiner was quoted as saying that CBS said they would air them every Saturday night if they colorized the entire series. I don't know what happened, but they haven't continued doing the specials for quite some time now. Maybe they didn't do well, I don't know. They did not, strangely, colorize the one Christmas episode they did, for some reason, when they showed them in December.

WOnder what episodes SLing is showing. Enjoy your viewing!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on July 25, 2020, 01:43:23 PM
Regis Philbin, Legendary Television Host, Dies at 88

"His family and friends are forever grateful for the time we got to spend with him – for his warmth, his legendary sense of humor, and his singular ability to make every day into something worth talking about," the Philbin family shares with PEOPLE in an exclusive statement.

https://people.com/?p=5539339&preview=true&preview_id=5539339
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on July 25, 2020, 01:49:44 PM
Always remembering his support for Notre Dame.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: morrobay on July 25, 2020, 06:34:15 PM
^^^

I have been watching DVD for the past three months! I decided to buy the series set in January or so because it was great sales price...it was something I'd wanted to do for years. I grew up when it was on, too young in its first years, but I thought over the years I'd seen most all the episodes. I've been surprised to find out how many I actually hadn't seen before and yet some of them I'd seen a dozen times, it seemed. I'm not a big fan of all the flashback episodes they did. Too many. Reiner said it was to show more background of Rob & Laura, sort of like knowing people's history making you like and understand them more.

It's the only sitcom from the early days that I know of that dared even hint in at least two episodes that a character was gay, too. That surprised me...of course they had to do it from the accepted stereotype of the day, but still, it surprised me.

Every dvd of this set has extras on it which are mostly fascinating. Most of them are a few minutes. There are award show clips, some Me-TV commercials, interviews about certain shows, several episodes have audio commentary with Reiner and Van Dyke, one has commentary with a writer, photo galleries, there's a retrospective special they did round 20 years ago, a whole melange of things that add spice to the endeavour every time you change to a new DVD. One of the extras on the DVD is a Hollywood Bowl appearance by MTM and DVD where they sang the lyrics to the theme song. (I was there! It was a night of music from television.)

A couple years ago they had started colorizing a couple episodes at a time and airing them as specials, like they do every year for I Love Lucy. Reiner was quoted as saying that CBS said they would air them every Saturday night if they colorized the entire series. I don't know what happened, but they haven't continued doing the specials for quite some time now. Maybe they didn't do well, I don't know. They did not, strangely, colorize the one Christmas episode they did, for some reason, when they showed them in December.

WOnder what episodes SLing is showing. Enjoy your viewing!

That DVD set sounds great with all the extras.  I was disappointed with what Sling had on, I thought it was an all day thing but it was only a few episodes.  One was with the Italian painter the Petries brought in to paint a room and the guy ended up staying 5 days...not a favorite of mine.  One was Rob and Laura have a fight and they explain it to Jerry and Millie separately, and each one makes the other look bad.  And one when Rob goes to another dentist when Jerry is out of town...all in all, not the best of the years they were on.  I wish they had showed the walnut episode, probably my favorite.  But there are a lot of great ones...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 25, 2020, 07:06:21 PM
Was the best episode ever the one where Laura revealed that Alan Brady wore a "rug"?

Lyle, do any of those "extras" remark on the fact that Rob and Laura slept in separate beds?  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 26, 2020, 11:47:35 AM
That DVD set sounds great with all the extras.  I was disappointed with what Sling had on, I thought it was an all day thing but it was only a few episodes.  One was with the Italian painter the Petries brought in to paint a room and the guy ended up staying 5 days...not a favorite of mine.

Yeah what is it with the episodes where they let people just come in and stay? I just saw a Season 5 episode, a sequel of sorts to the previous season's episode where they hire a maid, but she comes with the intent of living with them, speaks little English, and they just sort of let her walk all over them. In this episode her brother (or boyfriend, I forget) comes and stays and stays. I didn't care for either of those episodes.

I wish they had showed the walnut episode, probably my favorite.  But there are a lot of great ones...

I was going to say yesterday that I know a whole lot of people love that episode, but for some reason I just am not that excited about it. Heh!

At a bar I won a free drink once because I knew the answer to what ROSEBUD, Richie's middle name, stood for! Heh! And why I remembered that in my head at that moment in time, you got me! I hadn't seen that episode in decades at that point.

One episode that really cracked me up was when all of the neighbors wanted to audition their children to be on Rob's show and they kept coming to his house and office. (In the credits I noticed two of the children were played by DVD's kids.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 26, 2020, 12:22:40 PM
Was the best episode ever the one where Laura revealed that Alan Brady wore a "rug"?

If not the best, it's considered one of the best. It's one of my favorites. There are so many good jokes in it, not just the premise.
It was the first episode of the last season. The title is "Coast to Coast Big Mouth." It's one of the episodes they colorized, too.

Lyle, do any of those "extras" remark on the fact that Rob and Laura slept in separate beds?  ;D[/font][/size]

Yes, Reiner and Dick Van Dyke mention it a few times in the audio commentary. They also talk about the network being afraid of Mary Tyler Moore wearing her "Capri pants" too tight (Reiner said the network said they were afraid of cupping, and he was "what the heck is that?") and at first they only wanted her to wear them only in one scene per show.

(I remember the first time I heard someone say "bitch" on network television. It surprised me so much! Heh! I guess I'll also mention this one time I was watching a live Sunday morning local show here in Los Angeles and the host, Warren Olney, was interviewing in a quiet studio setting, an actress, and I'm thinking now it was Carol Lynley. This was 1978-79 something like that. During the conversation Lynley just was talking about something and she said "fuck" and continued on matter of factly...no big deal. The interviewer didn't react at all either and I was like "did I hear that?" Did she say it? I began questioning if I'd even heard it. You couldn't rewind anything back then or go check to see what someone else might have remarked on Twitter. Heh!)

A couple other extras in the set I recall: Mary Tyler Moore appearing on Dick Van Dyke's variety show, and also on Danny Kaye's Show, as well as one with Dick Van Dyke, and a sitcom episode of Make Room for Daddy that Morey Amsterdam was on playing Buddy Sorrell and a charades themed game show that Mary, Dick, Morey and Rose Marie were all on together. This DVD set also came with a lenticular image (inside a TV set like frame) of the scene where Laura comes sliding out of the closet in the cascade of walnuts, a little coloring book of episode images, and brochures for each season with facts and figures, notes about the evolution of the series and other enlightening stories.

The DVD's were something I always wanted to get at some point. The show has been on DVD practically since the first days of DVD 20 years ago, but I never got around to it for one reason or another. But, in a way, I'm glad I waited because this set I got was remastered and assembled with all these new extras and such in 2015 and I wouldn't have had all that otherwise.

Besides Mary and Dick, I saw Rose Marie in person once at the Pantages Theatre. She was playing the Fairy Godmother in a production of Cinderella that starred Steve Allen and Audrey Meadows as the King and Queen.  And i also saw Richard Deacon in a gay bar once in the 1980's. (The Backlot at Studio One.)

I also saw a license plate on a car parked on my street a few times that said OOOHH ROB.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 26, 2020, 04:01:46 PM
I also saw a license plate on a car parked on my street a few times that said OOOHH ROB.

 :laugh:

Decades ago I bought the first two seasons of Bewitched! and the first season of Remington Steele on DVD. Somehow I've never unwrapped and watched either of them. I have no idea why.  :">
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 27, 2020, 02:24:58 PM
^^^

Now's a good time!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 28, 2020, 08:02:26 PM
^^^

Now's a good time!

"Try this for a deep, dark secret. The great detective Remington Steele? He doesn't exist. I invented him. Follow. ..."

I knew right then, the first time I saw the show, that Pierce Brosnan would be a big star.

I thought Stephanie Zimbalist was cute. I wonder whatever became of her?

I never had anything against Doris Roberts, but I felt the show was not as good after they replaced the two other employees of the detective agency with Doris Roberts alone.

I thought James Read was attractive, too, in a boyish kind of way.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Flyboy on July 28, 2020, 08:05:39 PM
I liked that show, I must not have watched the whole series though, I can't remember Doris being in it!! TOOOO long ago now!  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on July 28, 2020, 09:26:39 PM
I thought Stephanie Zimbalist was cute. I wonder whatever became of her?

By the 90s Stephanie had taken to acting mostly in TV films, but the fact remains that she was still around, and she’s still around today. Despite being listed as active she doesn’t seem to have done much of anything since about 2015-2016, but that means very little since actors tend to take personal time now and again to move towards other projects or simply to relax. The chances seem good that she’ll continue to show up or at least continue doing something behind the scenes as she chooses.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 29, 2020, 10:10:29 AM

I have a very negative opinion of Pierce Brosnan.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: morrobay on July 29, 2020, 10:15:37 AM
details, Lyle!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 29, 2020, 11:12:03 AM

There was always something about him that I didn't like, but I never dwelled on it, I just didn't gravitate toward watching anything he was in. Then I saw some talk show appearances and found him to be rather arrogant. One appearance, in particular, solidified my feelings about him. He was on Jay Leno, when other guests used to stay and move onto the couch, and he pulls out a cigar, lights it up and starts smoking it, clearly annoying at least one person. No one mentioned it particularly, but I thought "What kind of a person does that?" People used to light up cigarettes on talk shows all the time, but not by then, and certainly not cigars.

I just found a photo (1996) of that online, but won't post it, as I believe a photo from this place got the forum in trouble once, but here's a link to the page: HERE (https://www.gettyimages.co.nz/detail/news-photo/episode-919-pictured-actor-pierce-brosnan-during-an-news-photo/461136680).
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 29, 2020, 02:26:39 PM
I have a very negative opinion of Pierce Brosnan.

But that didn't keep him from becoming a very big star.  ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 01, 2020, 08:05:59 AM
It still amazes me, the people who turn up in these old shows on MeTV. This morning it was Suzanne Pleshette on an episode of Have Gun, Will Travel. She was playing a Mexican woman.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 01, 2020, 07:03:49 PM
Today's Wagon Train episode was the Marjorie Main episode. She does her usual tough-cookie thing, but I don't mind. I always enjoy watching her.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 01, 2020, 09:44:26 PM
Decades ago I bought the first two seasons of Bewitched! and the first season of Remington Steele on DVD. Somehow I've never unwrapped and watched either of them. I have no idea why.  :">

Now's a good time!

This evening I finally watched the first two episodes of Remington Steele. It kind of depresses me to think that the show premiered 38 years ago this coming fall. It is funny to be reminded of the technology of 1982 (car phones that you had to dial, computers that were positively primitive), and also men's haircuts from back then. Really, I had forgotten how much I enjoyed the show.

Here's something else that's funny: Even after nearly four decades, I never forgot the theme music. What I had forgotten was that it was composed by Henry Mancini.

I did remember how cute James Read was in 1982. I looked him up at IMDb. I'm pleased to know he's still very much a working actor. What I did not learn was how he got a broken nose.

Remington Steele was another of those shows that I think were best in their freshman year and began to go slowly down hill after that.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 02, 2020, 12:22:36 PM

 Good that you're watching those DVD's!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 02, 2020, 12:58:20 PM
Good that you're watching those DVD's!

And I need to start shopping around again for a player or players. The one I'm using now seems to be developing issues. It was fine last weekend but didn't want to work last night. No surprise here, DVD players are getting hard to find. Maybe some day DVDs will come back as a niche kind of thing, like vinyl records.

If I don't watch the whole series, I definitely want to watch the episode with Beverly Garland as Laura's  mother. I seem to remember enjoying that one a lot. I need to check for the episode with Cassandra Harris, Pierce Brosnan's wife, who died of ovarian cancer in 1991.

Speaking of Beverly Garland, I think I should look around to see if Scarecrow and Mrs. King was ever released on DVD. I liked that little bit of fluff, too. I've always adored Kate Jackson. I think I'd have been straight for her.  :D  SAMK was another of the few shows I predicted would be a success. I don't recall it registering with me at the time that apparently Bruce Boxleitner's character was named for a brand of jeans and a brand of hat.  :D

My other successful prediction was CHiPs. Back in the day, when TV had actual seasons, and during the summer they ran commercials for new series coming in the fall, all it took me was one commercial view of Erik Estrada in that painted-on highway patrol uniform and I knew that show would be a hit! (I guess everybody knows Jon and Ponch's commanding officer was played by Robert Pine, father of Chris.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 02, 2020, 10:01:21 PM

If I don't watch the whole series, I definitely want to watch the episode with Beverly Garland as Laura's  mother. I seem to remember enjoying that one a lot. I need to check for the episode with Cassandra Harris, Pierce Brosnan's wife, who died of ovarian cancer in 1991.


Actually, that was the same episode of Remington Steele. They were both in it. It was only the fifth episode of the show, and for me it was probably the best episode of the whole series.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 03, 2020, 02:05:19 PM
And I need to start shopping around again for a player or players. The one I'm using now seems to be developing issues. It was fine last weekend but didn't want to work last night. No surprise here, DVD players are getting hard to find. Maybe some day DVDs will come back as a niche kind of thing, like vinyl records.

DVD's are still a thing, there's new releases all the time, I've just gotten some. But Blu-Ray players are definitely a thing and they
also play DVD's.

My other successful prediction was CHiPs. Back in the day, when TV had actual seasons, and during the summer they ran commercials for new series coming in the fall, all it took me was one commercial view of Erik Estrada in that painted-on highway patrol uniform and I knew that show would be a hit! (I guess everybody knows Jon and Ponch's commanding officer was played by Robert Pine, father of Chris.)[/font][/size]

CHiP's premiered the season after I came to California and I used to like to watch it Saturday nights to see if I could recognize any of the places they filmed. And from watching it I learned that TV shows didn't always use accurate places. They'd often tell the officers to go, say, the intersection of Lankershim and Sepulveda Blvd. for example - two streets that aren't anywhere near each other. Or they'd say to go a certain park, but they filmed it somewhere else.

When I worked in Culver City, one day they filmed a scene for CHiP's on the corner right near where I worked. But we weren't allowed to see much of it as the boss wanted us to work.  :P

But, one night in December of 81, after work I went to a small card shop in Studio City and while I was in there someone came in the back entrance and I heard the lady behind the counter say "Hi, Mr. Pine." I looked up and it was Robert Pine! He had a child with him and the woman remarked on his cute son.

So a couple decades later when I found out who "Chris Pine" was I looked up info about Robert Pine and discovered he has two children, Chris and Katharine. Chris was born in 1980, so, since he has only one son, I actually saw him when he was a year and three months old! Unbelievably really, on August 26th of this month, Chris Pine will be 40 years old.  :o
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on August 03, 2020, 02:13:49 PM
I enjoy watching NCIS New Orleans for much the same reasons. Sometimes they pass through a time warp, getting from one place to another in an impossibly short time, but most of the places portrayed are reasonably correct.

In the first episode of Season One, the characters were in a cemetery with a view of the Mississippi River Bridge in the distance. The cemetery (St Bartholomew's) happens to be where my maternal grandparents are buried.

One real howler in another series was a Murder She Wrote that supposedly took place in New Orleans. It really looked off, and I eventually realized it was filmed at New Orleans Square in Disneyland!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 03, 2020, 03:08:51 PM
CHiP's premiered the season after I came to California and I used to like to watch it Saturday nights to see if I could recognize any of the places they filmed. And from watching it I learned that TV shows didn't always use accurate places. They'd often tell the officers to go, say, the intersection of Lankershim and Sepulveda Blvd. for example - two streets that aren't anywhere near each other. Or they'd say to go a certain park, but they filmed it somewhere else.


I can remembering watching CHiPs with my younger brothers when it was on, we watched it for the car accidents.  LOL
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 03, 2020, 08:03:37 PM
DVD's are still a thing, there's new releases all the time, I've just gotten some. But Blu-Ray players are definitely a thing and they
also play DVD's.

I did not know Blu-Ray players also played "ordinary" DVDs. That's useful information. Thank you, Lyle.

(A couple of years ago a friend pointed out to me that my DVD player also played music CDs. I hadn't known that.)

Maybe I shouldn't completely give up hope for Season 2 of 9-1-1? Do things ever stop being available on Amazon Prime? If they do, then maybe they'll issue the season on DVD?


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So a couple decades later when I found out who "Chris Pine" was I looked up info about Robert Pine and discovered he has two children, Chris and Katharine. Chris was born in 1980, so, since he has only one son, I actually saw him when he was a year and three months old! Unbelievably really, on August 26th of this month, Chris Pine will be 40 years old.  :o

That's not possible. It can't be.  :o
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 04, 2020, 02:31:33 PM

I've been watching the 1964-67 TV series 12 O'Clock High. It's quite good.

There's some guest stars of the 60's variety that I like seeing in something I haven't seen them in before. Like Robert Walker, James Whitmore, Peter Fonda, Brandon De Wilde, Whit Bissell, Robert Colbert, Lee Meriwether and John Zaremba who were all on Time Tunnel, Judy Carne, Hermione Baddeley, Glynis Johns, Barbara Feldon, Jack Lord, Burt Reynolds, John Kerr, Beau Bridges, Roddy McDowall, Ted Knight, Bruce Dern and even Bobby "Boris" Pickett who sang Monster Mash! (I didn't know he was an actor and his famous song was an aberration of his career as an actor.) I could go on and on with the famous actors in this series I've watched so far.

One thing that surprised me. Hopefully he's been forgotten, but there was a really rabid Orange County right wing anti-gay Republican Congressman who was in office from 1977-1997. Anyone remember the name Robert Dornan? Imagine my surprise to see his name in the credits of this show occasionally?

I guess he tried to make it as an actor starting in 1960. IMDB says he was in 25 episodes of this series. But he's basically a presence in the aircraft with few lines if any, so he isn't distracting me. He has 15 other credits listed, up to 1971, and it looks like he has a line or two in any given episode, and mostly plays military type roles, or a policeman.

But, of those 15, he's appeared in some well-known series: Have Gun, Will Travel, a Lieutenant in Dennis the Menace, a policeman in Bewitched and I Dream of Jeannie, a German in Rat Patrol, a Doctor in The Fugitive and something in Ironside.

When his name comes up I react like one of Pavlov's dogs with irritation and disgust, even though he's been out of office for 23+ years. Maybe I shouldn't have even mentioned him.
 

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 07, 2020, 11:37:57 AM
There is one other thing that I would appreciate in Remington Steele today that I didn't when the series ran, and that would be the movie references. For example when I first saw the episode with Cassandra Harris and Beverly Garland, I had not yet seen The Maltese Falcon, so the fact that one of the characters in that episode was named Guttman meant nothing to me. Now I get the reference. Another episode actually included a clip from The Thin Man (a movie that I now love); it's too long ago for me to remember if I knew what it was at the time, but I know the episode was long before I finally saw that movie.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on September 11, 2020, 07:04:39 PM
The British actress Diana Rigg enthralled London and New York theater audiences with her performances in classic roles for more than a half-century. She remained best known as the quintessential new woman of the 1960s on the television series “The Avengers” and found new fans later playing Lady Olenna Tyrell on “Game of Thrones.” She died at 82.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 11, 2020, 08:19:16 PM
I knew of her, but I have to say, other than a few reruns of The Avengers", I wasn't familiar with her work.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 12, 2020, 09:37:54 PM
Much to my surprise, this morning I actually saw an episode of Wagon Train that I'd never seen before: "Chuck Wooster, Wagonmaster" (Season 2, episode 33). Hard to believe compared to today, but Season 2 was October 1, 1958, through June 24, 1959, and consisted of 38 episodes.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on September 13, 2020, 01:28:35 AM
Much to my surprise, this morning I actually saw an episode of Wagon Train that I'd never seen before: "Chuck Wooster, Wagonmaster" (Season 2, episode 33). Hard to believe compared to today, but Season 2 was October 1, 1958, through June 24, 1959, and consisted of 38 episodes.

How old were you, Jeff?  I was 6-7 years old.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 13, 2020, 01:25:59 PM
How old were you, Jeff?  I was 6-7 years old.

Well, uh, when "Chuck Wooster, Wagonmaster" originally aired, May 20, 1959, that was about two weeks after I turned 1. ...  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 13, 2020, 04:14:19 PM
One of the networks that I have been flipping through has been airing reruns of Barney Miller.  I hadn't seen that show in I don't know how long.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on September 13, 2020, 05:06:02 PM
That was a really enjoyable show.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on September 13, 2020, 06:11:15 PM
I really liked that show as well! I watched it every week.

I looked it up and Hal Linden (Barney) is still alive, (89), Max Gail (Wojo), (77), Gregory Sierra (Chano) (79) and Barbara Berrie (Barney's wife Elizabeth)(89)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 14, 2020, 07:26:29 AM
I really liked that show as well! I watched it every week.

I looked it up and Hal Linden (Barney) is still alive, (89), Max Gail (Wojo), (77), Gregory Sierra (Chano) (79) and Barbara Berrie (Barney's wife Elizabeth)(89)

That got me thinking about some other names from the past. I have no idea why these in particular, but Susan Dey (The Partridge Family, L.A. Law) will be 68 in December. Corbin Bernsen just turned 66--it kind of surprised me to learn that he's younger than Susan Dey. He recently made a guest appearance in an episode of the new Magnum. P.I.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 14, 2020, 11:06:50 AM

I don't know why, really, but I just never could get into that series...Barney Miller. Critics were always raving about it. Not sure how it's held up to those raves because it's rarely seen and has never had any kind of a home video release like most series with that kind of stature have had. Another one like that is Murphy Brown. I always watched that, and it was really popular, too, but it's rarely seen now and they tried one season on DVD, but that was it. (I also watched the one season update they did two years ago and found it enjoyable.)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on September 14, 2020, 11:57:54 AM
My favorite character in that series was actually Sgt Dietrich (played by Steve Landesberg). Just liked him a lot.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 14, 2020, 12:08:03 PM
I don't know why, really, but I just never could get into that series...Barney Miller. Critics were always raving about it. Not sure how it's held up to those raves because it's rarely seen and has never had any kind of a home video release like most series with that kind of stature have had. Another one like that is Murphy Brown. I always watched that, and it was really popular, too, but it's rarely seen now and they tried one season on DVD, but that was it. (I also watched the one season update they did two years ago and found it enjoyable.)

I never watched Barney Miller. I have no reason why. It might be the frequent one that it was opposite something else I did watch. I would have to check the years it ran, and even the day or days it ran.

Hard to believe Murphy Brown ran ten years, 1988-1998. Maybe by now it would seem too topical, too of its day? Maybe it would be seen as appealing to an unfavorable demographic? Apparently it ended 22 years ago. Who remembers Dan Quayle? I can't begin to say why I never watched much of that, either. I liked reboot, too.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy_Brown (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphy_Brown)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 14, 2020, 03:25:04 PM
I liked Murphy Brown.  I wasn't a weekly viewer, but I did watch it on a regular basis.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on September 14, 2020, 05:43:33 PM
My favorite character in that series was actually Sgt Dietrich (played by Steve Landesberg). Just liked him a lot.



I had forgotten about him, Fritz. He was a favorite of mine as well. I thought he was not from the original cast, but found out he started with the last episode of 1975 and for the rest of the run. Not sure why he was not mentioned in the article I took the other information from. He died in 2010.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 14, 2020, 05:51:36 PM

I remember seeing him when he played a therapist on Golden Girls, trying to help Dorothy's ex-husband, Stan.  I saw him and thought "The guy from Barney Miller"


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on September 14, 2020, 05:52:57 PM
I had forgotten about him, Fritz. He was a favorite of mine as well. I thought he was not from the original cast, but found out he started with the last episode of 1975 and for the rest of the run. Not sure why he was not mentioned in the article I took the other information from. He died in 2010.

Yes, I just found from the Wikipedia article that he was no longer among us.

In Barney Miller he occasionally quoted poetry in the original German. That sealed my liking of him.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 14, 2020, 05:53:51 PM

I always liked Wojo.  I thought he was kinda cute, and nothing seemed to go right for him.

I just wanted to give him a hug.


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on September 14, 2020, 05:54:27 PM
Oh yeah, he was huggable.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 18, 2020, 12:24:21 PM

On another TV related forum people were talking about shows they wished had at least one more season. One of those mentioned was Gilligan's Island!

Since another season never happened I wondered later on if three was just right. Maybe a 4th season would've been too much or really bad/tedious and then the attraction it had in reruns would've really diminished. There was talk that Tina wanted to leave the show and Sherwood may have let her escape and be replaced in some fashion. Who knows? It's undeniable that it's lasted to this day.

As for a 4th season? I saw this once on a Gilligan's Isle website. One can be skeptical if this is true or not, but in any event:
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"The Original Gilligan's Island Fan Club" purchased a script copy of the last episode "Gilligan The Goddess", and discovered several forth season proposals which were yellowed and deteriorated.

1)"Proportional Potions": Gilligan finds a drink which makes him miniaturized.
2)"Another Start Is Born" or "Bye Bye Birdy": Ginger climbs aboard a rowboat (Titanic Jr.) and gets rescued.
3)"An Eye For An Eye": Ginger Grant is replaced by Miss Krissy and Miss Sally.
4)"No Bill For This Tab": Guest star portrayed by Tab Hunter appears.
5)"Ahoy Matey": Modern day pirate 'Silver Long-Johns' comes to the island.
6)"Eye Detect You": Gilligan thinks he's Dick Tracy and ruins rescue.
7)"Who's The Dodo?": Professor tracks what he thinks is the rare Dodo bird while Gilligan finds a lamp which when rubbed brings forth a genie.
8)"Laugh until It Hurts": Comedian Paul Lynde guest stars to 'test' jokes on the castaways.
9)"My Favorite Alien": A silly alien lands on the island.
10)"I Hear You": A singer (Bobby Vinton?) guest stars as Mary Ann's, Miss Sally's, and Miss Krissy's favorite singer.

In 1963, during the show's proposal, CBS executives wanted an episode where Gilligan finds and befriends a dinosaur on the other end of the island. Sherwood said that if the ratings continued to slip, he may have had a marriage of a couple castaways who would later have a baby, or he would use the 'hotel' idea.
__________________________________________________

A lot of them sound plausible and out there enough!

ODDS & ENDS:
--Over 15 years ago I had a friend who was really in to Gilligan's Island. I was unemployed and had no funds to celebrate his birthday in any great fashion so I decided to write him a Gilligan's Island episode. I made it a Christmas episode. The episode had a guest star, who I specifically wanted to be played by Paul Lynde. (So when I read the above list some years later it amused me that Paul Lynde was also an idea put forth.)

--An acquaintance I met once told me when he was in college he had a script writing class and one of their assignments was to write what they would consider to be an excellent episode of Gilligan's Island. The professor's idea was that it was a show that so many people derided, that they could use their creative juices and see what happened. I'd have loved to read those.

--A friend of a friend of mine had a job for a time as a script reader for an agent, in the 90's. In the office he came across a movie script for a film version remake of Gilligan's Island. My friend got him to make a copy of it for me, as he knew I'd be interested in reading it. I was very interested. When this happened I was going on vacation to Hawaii in a few weeks, so I took it with me to Hawaii and read it on the beach at Waikiki! I thought the first hour was really good. The second hour fell into the trap of the idea that a movie had to be big and expensive and I thought it got ruined by unnecessary (to the plot really) and over the top "special effects".

--It's interesting that in the ten ideas for Season 4 episodes above, #9 is actually the plot point that happens in the Gilligan's Island Musical that was done. I got to see it in San Diego. I really liked the musical. (Although the "alien" bit seemed to be similar to Sherwood's preoccupation with Russian spies in many of his shows.) The front row of the audience had their feet in actual sand. An amusing part of the show was that, whether it made sense or not, every single time the Howell's exited, when they reappeared again they were in different outfits. Every time. Some years later a production was done in Los Angeles, somewhere in the valley, I think, and Lee Meriwether played Mrs. Howell. I would've gone to see it, but I did not know about it until later on.

FWIW...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 18, 2020, 07:14:13 PM
--It's interesting that in the ten ideas for Season 4 episodes above, #9 is actually the plot point that happens in the Gilligan's Island Musical that was done. I got to see it in San Diego. I really liked the musical. (Although the "alien" bit seemed to be similar to Sherwood's preoccupation with Russian spies in many of his shows.) The front row of the audience had their feet in actual sand. An amusing part of the show was that, whether it made sense or not, every single time the Howell's exited, when they reappeared again they were in different outfits. Every time. Some years later a production was done in Los Angeles, somewhere in the valley, I think, and Lee Meriwether played Mrs. Howell. I would've gone to see it, but I did not know about it until later on.

What about Ginger? I would have thought that would have applied to her for certain.

I guess everybody knows this already, but the theme song for Gilligan's Island is in what is known as ballad meter. So is "Amazing Grace." So it's theoretically possible to sing "Amazing Grace" to the tune of the theme song for Gilligan's Island.  ;D

(I think it would be a little more difficult to go the other way, to sing the Gilligan's Island these to the tune of "Amazing Grace.")
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on September 18, 2020, 07:29:44 PM

One thing I've learned about rewatching Laugh-In is that all of the problems the U.S. had in 1968...they're still problems!

Fritz, when Laugh-In was on (1968-1973) do you recall, if you watched it, any of the LGBT humor contained in it?

I was thinking while watching these that, well, most people in the country were not exposed to anything to do with gay people. It wasn't talked about, at least openly, nor did most people ever even think they knew a gay person. If a character on "any" TV show was gay it was only hinted at and never forthright, and hinting didn't mean a general audience knew what they were talking about. (I mean, a whole lot of people didn't even know Liberace was gay and if they didn't think he was...!) I didn't really even know I was when I was 15. Although it was obvious I was then, when I look back. Nowadays I would've known.

So I was thinking that Laugh-In was probably the only TV show that routinely even brought up anything to do with LGBT issues and/or people etc. And they could do it, because it was done in quick jokes. Watching these episodes now there were LGBT jokes, at least one, in EVERY episode.

Now what does that mean? Well, some of it was making fun of the stereotypes, obviously. That gay men want to be women, or act like women. In the second season Alan Sues came along and even though I didn't actually think about him being gay myself back then, he obviously was...the sort of campy gay person that comedy would permit, like Paul Lynde or Charles Nelson Reilly. Not sexually threatening to any one.

There were inside jokes on the show that hinted quite publicly. I mean, Rock Hudson was on the show and after one joke he pops up on the screen and says "How does that grab you secret lovers?"

In another show in quick succession Rock Hudson says a line and then Tiny Tim says a line and then Lena Horne has this line:
"It's getting so on this show you can't tell the fruits from the nuts."

 :o

The show also has many "Gay Lib" jokes. The show uses topics in news and entertainment so they can bring it up. There's jokes about:
"Therese and Isabelle." Christine Jorgensen. Truman Capote. Lots and lots about "Myra Breckenridge," first the book and then the movie.
There are jokes from the news about Margaret Rutherford's nephew who had a sex change.

There are several about a group of homosexuals who wanted to take over Alpine County California by getting elected and turning it into a gay city/county.
They even blew up the article about it from the L.A. Times and put it on an easel for reference to it. Look up Alpine County on wikipedia! Who still knows about that?

There's often jokes about men marrying men on the show.

And I have a question, Fritz: When did the term "bears" become known? Some jokes are just in the eye of the beholder. There's one that I think of as a gay joke, simply because Alan Sues is doing it. I doubt it was written as a gay joke.

We see several football players on a bench and the coach standing nearby. (There were several running gags using this setup.)
Alan Sues, as Grabowski, has been in the game and he runs into view from the football field, his helmet askew, muddy face and football uniform torn to shreds.

COACH: "What happened Grabowski?"
GRABOWSKI: (out of breath) "Coach...  I didn't know the Chicago Bears were real bears."

I always laugh at that thinking of Alan Sues being out on the field with "gay bears." Of course it wasn't written that way.
Heh! But I wonder when that term became slang for guys like that?

Of course, men in drag was overused, but still amusing.

Many LGBT people were on the show: Alan Sues, Judy Carne, Lily Tomlin, Rock Hudson, Charles Nelson Reilly, Laurence Harvey, Michael Greer, Truman Capote, Paul Lynde, Gore Vidal to name a few offhand...

Anyhoo...I wonder what a whole compilation of LGBT humor from this show would look like? How young people would feel about it now? Would they just think all of it as offensive or could they appreciate it. In long ago days "visible at all costs" meant putting up with some kinds of humor that might diminish one as a person...

(People being fat was something really accepted back in the day for comedy and now, specifically when it's targeted to someone, it seems really cruel. Mama Cass and Totie Fields were routinely singled out in that regard.)

I could go on and on, but I'll stop for the moment!  :laugh:


Rock Hudson, he was such a cutie.  It's a shame he died when he was so young.  I wonder what he would be doing today if he were still alive?  Lily Tomlin is great.  Are any of you guys, maybe if you have kids or grandkids, are you at all familiar with "THE MAGIC SCHOOL BUS" series of children's books or the various animated shows that were based on the books? Many of my friends' kids loved watching the original show when it aired on network and cable TV in the 1990s.  I took a look at it back then, being an animation fan, and I thought it was funny, cute and educational even though it was a bit repetitive. It is a great show  for a family to watch together or if you are an animation fan who can appreciate educational programs or if you just love studying science.  Well, Lily Tomlin had provided the speaking voice of the science teacher Miss. Frizzle in the original TV show.  There is a full-length feature film in the works about "THE MAGIC SCHOOL BUS", and I think that Elizabeth Banks has been cast as Miss. Frizzle.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 18, 2020, 07:33:01 PM
An amusing part of the show was that, whether it made sense or not, every single time the Howell's exited, when they reappeared again they were in different outfits. Every time. Some years later a production was done in Los Angeles, somewhere in the valley, I think, and Lee Meriwether played Mrs. Howell. I would've gone to see it, but I did not know about it until later on.

What about Ginger? I would have thought that would have applied to her for certain.

I guess everybody knows this already, but the theme song for Gilligan's Island is in what is known as ballad meter. So is "Amazing Grace." So it's theoretically possible to sing "Amazing Grace" to the tune of the theme song for Gilligan's Island.  ;D

(I think it would be a little more difficult to go the other way, to sing the Gilligan's Island these to the tune of "Amazing Grace.")


I always thought it was funny that Gilligan, Skipper and the Professor always wore the same clothes every episode, but the Howells, Ginger and Mary Ann always had different outfits.

I wondered how many clothes they packed for what was a three hour tour.   And as for the three men who always had the same outfits, those clothes were never dirty or torn in any way!

:laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on September 18, 2020, 07:42:20 PM

I always thought it was funny that Gilligan, Skipper and the Professor always wore the same clothes every episode, but the Howells, Ginger and Mary Ann always had different outfits.

I wondered how many clothes they packed for what was a three hour tour.   And as for the three men who always had the same outfits, those clothes were never dirty or torn in any way!

:laugh:


I love "GILLIGAN'S ISLAND" (1964-1967). I remember an episode of "ROSEANNE" (1988-2018) where they were parodying classic TV shows, and "GILLIGAN'S ISLAND" was one of them.  Roseanne was Ginger and Darlene (played by Sara Gilbert) was Mary Ann and there was this scene after the six characters find themselves stranded on the island where Darlene says to Roseanne, "How come I'm Mary Ann anyway? I've never been to Kansas and I'm tired of everyone thinking you're prettier than me!" Roseanne replies, " Deal with it, Dorothy, or else I'll use your pigtails to steer while I ride your hillbilly ass all over this island." LOL!  Some of the cast members of "GILLIGAN'S ISLAND" later appeared in the episode as members of the Conner family. Bob Denver played Aunt Jackie Harris and Dawn Wells played Darlene. LOL! When Dawn Wells dressed as Darlene walked into the kitchen of the Conner house, she threw her backpack over one of the chairs, sat down and said in Darlene's usual smart-ass manner, "This family sucks!" LOL.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on September 18, 2020, 07:50:15 PM
Does anyone remember that one episode where Ginger and the Professor spend a really long time where they "practiced" kissing each other? That was funny.  Nobody wants to kiss poor Gilligan. Not saying I would want to, of course.  I'm just saying that everyone is so mean to him, and he was always a really sweet guy.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 18, 2020, 07:51:14 PM
When I was young, I had a crush on the Professor.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 19, 2020, 10:41:06 AM
One of the episodes of Have Gun, Will Travel that aired this morning was directed by Ida Lupino.

I need to check the schedule to see if MeTV is running Wagon Train episodes on weekdays again. There were exactly five episodes between the one that ran last Saturday and the one that ran this morning.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 19, 2020, 01:06:53 PM
One of the episodes of Have Gun, Will Travel that aired this morning was directed by Ida Lupino.

Ida Lupino also directed three episodes of Gilligan's Island:
- Wrongway Feldman (1964)
- Good Night Sweet Skipper (1964)
- The Producer (1966)

She directed 8 episodes of Have Gun, Will Travel.

She also directed one or multiple episodes of shows like: Daniel Boone, The Ghost and Mrs. Muir, The Virginian, Donna Reed, 77 Sunset Strip, The Rifleman, The Untouchables, The Fugitive, Dr. Kildare, Honey West and Bewitched. Not to mention over a 100 acting roles in movies and TV.
 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 19, 2020, 01:07:52 PM
When I was young, I had a crush on the Professor.

I believe somewhere else on the forum at one time I admitted that had a crush on Gilligan. Bob Denver.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 19, 2020, 01:23:05 PM
I love "GILLIGAN'S ISLAND" (1964-1967). I remember an episode of "ROSEANNE"...

I loved that Roseanne "Gilligan's Island" episode. It was filmed on the same soundstage that Gilligan's Island used to be filmed on!

Some other shows that have done episodes with Gilligan's Island themes are: Alf (Gilligan and the Skipper are in this one), The New Gidget (I've never seen this one), a show called Meego that I don't know at all, and the best one is probably the first season of the syndicated Baywatch TV Series. The episode title is "Now Sit Right Back and You'll Hear a Tale". The lifeguards are in their station all watching Gilligan's Island reruns and later on two rescuers boat conks out and washes up on--a deserted island, ?,  where they find Gilligan and Mary Ann! Some of the other cast of Baywatch impersonate the other castaways in it. Very good if you enjoy G.I.!




Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 19, 2020, 01:25:57 PM
Does anyone remember that one episode where Ginger and the Professor spend a really long time where they "practiced" kissing each other? That was funny.  Nobody wants to kiss poor Gilligan. Not saying I would want to, of course.  I'm just saying that everyone is so mean to him, and he was always a really sweet guy.



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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 19, 2020, 01:39:12 PM
What about Ginger? I would have thought that would have applied to her for certain.

No, it was only the Howells!

I guess everybody knows this already, but the theme song for Gilligan's Island is in what is known as ballad meter. So is "Amazing Grace." So it's theoretically possible to sing "Amazing Grace" to the tune of the theme song for Gilligan's Island.  ;D

(I think it would be a little more difficult to go the other way, to sing the Gilligan's Island theme to the tune of "Amazing Grace.")

Here's a video of some people doing this. (It takes them about 30 seconds to start it.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq61SPB3XDw

I also ran across this: Fascinating!!!
31 Song Lyrics Which Can Be Sung to the Gilligan's Island Theme Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adIzx0VXTS0

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 19, 2020, 04:54:22 PM
When I was young, I had a crush on the Professor.

It's always fun to see Russell Johnson pop up in other roles when you're not expecting him.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 19, 2020, 04:55:38 PM
I believe somewhere else on the forum at one time I admitted that had a crush on Gilligan. Bob Denver.

Oh, dear. ... You had a crush on Maynard G. Krebs. ...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 19, 2020, 04:59:08 PM
Ida Lupino also directed three episodes of Gilligan's Island:
- Wrongway Feldman (1964)
- Good Night Sweet Skipper (1964)
- The Producer (1966)

She directed 8 episodes of Have Gun, Will Travel.

She also directed one or multiple episodes of shows like: Daniel Boone, The Ghost and Mrs. Muir, The Virginian, Donna Reed, 77 Sunset Strip, The Rifleman, The Untouchables, The Fugitive, Dr. Kildare, Honey West and Bewitched. Not to mention over a 100 acting roles in movies and TV.

I would love to know which episodes of Daniel Boone she directed. I could watch them, since I own the whole series (my childhood favorite). Bewitched would be interesting, too.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 20, 2020, 11:47:10 AM
I would love to know which episodes of Daniel Boone she directed. I could watch them, since I own the whole series (my childhood favorite). Bewitched would be interesting, too.


She directed one episode each of those series:

Daniel Boone
- The King's Shilling (1967)

Bewitched
- A is for Aardvark (1965)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 20, 2020, 02:22:07 PM

She directed one episode each of those series:

Daniel Boone
- The King's Shilling (1967)

I remember that episode.

Lyle, how do you find out these things?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 20, 2020, 02:28:12 PM
It's always fun to see Russell Johnson pop up in other roles when you're not expecting him.

He did a few westerns back in the day.



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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 21, 2020, 11:00:36 AM
I remember that episode.

Lyle, how do you find out these things?


Jeff, if you type, say Ida Lupino IMDB into a search that page comes up for her and it'll
have their credits. Across the heading it will say things like:

Jump to: Actress | Director | Writer | Soundtrack | Producer | Self | Archive footage

Then you click on the list you want to see and it comes up. Normally if it's an actor their acting credits come up automatically first, but on occasion I've noticed that's not always the case.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 21, 2020, 11:52:09 AM
Jeff, if you type, say Ida Lupino IMDB into a search that page comes up for her and it'll
have their credits. Across the heading it will say things like:

Jump to: Actress | Director | Writer | Soundtrack | Producer | Self | Archive footage

Then you click on the list you want to see and it comes up. Normally if it's an actor their acting credits come up automatically first, but on occasion I've noticed that's not always the case.

You just disillusioned me. I thought you had some sort of secret magic skills to find out this stuff.   :(   ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 21, 2020, 12:12:53 PM
^^^

Yes, I hesitated to answer you for that very reason.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 24, 2020, 11:08:43 AM
Clint Eastwood was on the episode of Maverick that ran on MeTV this morning.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 31, 2020, 10:35:17 AM
I really do love those old Westerns on Saturday mornings. You really do never know who, or what, you're going to see.

One of the episodes of Have Gun, Will Travel was written by Gene Roddenbery and directed by Ida Lupino. The Maverick episode included a very young Louise Fletcher (she did a lot of TV in the late 1950s and early 1960). Wagon Train featured David Wayne.

(I also learned via a commercial that MeTV is indeed showing Wagon Train episodes on weekdays.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 31, 2020, 10:53:07 AM

She, Louise Fletcher, is in an early episode of The Untouchables, the one with Claire Trevor as Ma Barker.

I was trying to think of some major movie stars that came to be prominent in the 70's and beyond that didn't do any television before that. I haven't tried researching that now, but I don't ever recall seeing Jack Nicholson in any episode of a TV series. Have you?

I recently saw Jon Voight in an episode of 12 O'Clock High. Gene Hackman was in The Invaders. Richard Dreyfuss in Gidget and The Big Valley. Dustin Hoffman in Naked City. You mentioned Clint Eastwood, we know he did quite a bit of TV, but did you know he was in an episode of Mister Ed? As himself. Ellen Burstyn's in an episode of The Time Tunnel! In her TV days she was billed as Ellen McRae. I'm not suggesting these folks didn't do other series, either, I was just thinking out loud.

In a bit I'm going to look up Jack Nicholson!


 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 31, 2020, 11:24:37 AM

Okay, wow, Jack Nicholson did several TV series. I guess I'm just unfamiliar with any of it.

1966-1967 The Andy Griffith Show (TV Series) 2 episodes
1967 The Guns of Will Sonnett (TV Series)
1966 Dr. Kildare (TV Series) 4 episodes
1962 Hawaiian Eye (TV Series)
1961 Bronco (TV Series)
1961 Sea Hunt (TV Series)
1961 Tales of Wells Fargo (TV Series)
1960 The Barbara Stanwyck Show (TV Series)
1960 Mr. Lucky (TV Series)

By the way, Jack Nicholson was such a predictable presence on TV around movie awards seasons for so long, and it still feels like it, but in looking this up just now I saw that he hasn't done any work in over a decade! He's 83. I wonder what he does now?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 14, 2020, 07:41:52 AM
It still amazes me who shows up on some of these vintage TV series. On the Saturday morning episode of Wagon Train, the guest star was ... Don Rickles! By 1961 he was already a big enough "name" to be listed as the guest star. He wasn't just in the cast--he was the guest star.

I barely recognized him. His face was fuller/rounder than I was used to seeing him. It wasn't a comedy role, either. It was a dramatic role, and he was the Bad Guy of the episode. I had never associated him with dramatic roles, but evidently he did do some.

The episode of Maverick was the one with Troy Donahue, Adam West, and the character actor Henry Daniell.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 14, 2020, 12:51:56 PM
I had never associated him [Don Rickles] with dramatic roles, but evidently he did do some.

He was in a WWII movie with Clark Gable. (Run Silent, Run Deep. 1958. Robert Wise directed it.)
I remember when I first saw the film and suddenly realized Don Rickles was in it. What? Don Rickles
in a Clark Gable movie? It's a good movie. It also stars Burt Lancaster and Jack Warden. Rickles is
5th billed!)

Any old TV series I watch from the 60's it seems Don Rickles was a guest at one point. He was in a
Twilight Zone, Dick Van Dyke Show (played a guy named Lyle Delp), Addams Family, three episodes
of Burke's Law, Wild Wild West, I Spy, F Troop, Gilligan's Island, Run for Your Life, dozens more...

He, like Tim Conway, tried to have his own series several times. The one that lasted the longest was two
seasons of C.P.O. Sharkey, which I saw a couple tapings of. His persona worked in the character of a
hard-nosed Navy Petty Officer.  It was put out on DVD not too long ago, I wonder if it would be worth
revisiting?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 14, 2020, 03:33:27 PM
He was in a WWII movie with Clark Gable. (Run Silent, Run Deep. 1958. Robert Wise directed it.)
I remember when I first saw the film and suddenly realized Don Rickles was in it. What? Don Rickles
in a Clark Gable movie? It's a good movie. It also stars Burt Lancaster and Jack Warden. Rickles is
5th billed!)

I learned about that when I looked him up. I was so stunned to see him in Wagon Train that I did some research.


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Any old TV series I watch from the 60's it seems Don Rickles was a guest at one point. He was in a
Twilight Zone, Dick Van Dyke Show (played a guy named Lyle Delp), Addams Family, three episodes
of Burke's Law, Wild Wild West, I Spy, F Troop, Gilligan's Island, Run for Your Life, dozens more...

I remember the F Troop episode. I probably saw it in reruns at some point.

I guess mostly I remember him from guest appearances on shows like Dean Martin's show. Honestly, Rickles may be the reason I developed a distaste for insult comedy. I really never cared for him.


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He, like Tim Conway, tried to have his own series several times. The one that lasted the longest was two
seasons of C.P.O. Sharkey, which I saw a couple tapings of. His persona worked in the character of a
hard-nosed Navy Petty Officer.  It was put out on DVD not too long ago, I wonder if it would be worth
revisiting?

I remember the show, but I never watched it. There may have been several reasons for that, but surely one of them was my dislike of Rickles.

Of course, my earliest memory of Tim Conway is McHale's Navy. That's my earliest memory of Ernest Borgnine, too.

A couple of years ago I finally saw Marty. I found it very moving.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 15, 2020, 10:25:36 AM

When I watched the recent documentary about Rose Marie, I discovered that she's the one who brought Tim Conway to national attention when she saw him perform in a city on one of her tours.

Although on the surface McHale's Navy is right up my alley, the combination of Joe Flynn and Tim Conway is to much to bear. The silliness becomes, well, unbelievable. (I was going to say stupid or assinine.) I've tried to watch it again a few times on the retro channels, but I just can't get into it.

Heh, I ran into Carl Ballantine once in an elevator at a chiropractor's office.  :laugh:

Yes, Marty's a good movie. When AMPAS (the Oscars) celebrated their 75th Anniversary they spent two years showing every best picture winner and Ernest Borgnine appeared as a guest when Marty was screened. He'd been noted for his acting a couple years earlier in From Here to Eternity, too.

Ernest Borgnine won the Oscar that year over some impressive nominees: James Cagney, James Dean, Frank Sinatra and Spencer Tracy. And it's odd that at a time when Hollywood was concerned with TV becoming more popular than their movies, they awarded a Best Picture to a story that had recently been done on television, with Rod Steiger in the lead. It's the only time a Best Picture has come from a television based adaptation. Marty had been the only movie, too, that won the Best Film prize at Cannes and also the Oscar for Best Picture, until Parasite did it this year.

Marty was up against these other films:  Love Is a Many-Splendored Thing, Mister Roberts, Picnic and The Rose Tattoo, any of which is just as good as Marty and could have won. Although The Rose Tattoo should have definitely been filmed in color. Mrty is also the shortest Best Picture winner in Oscar history with a running time of 90 minutes. I think it's a little under that. I remember when I worked at Video West we were coming up with some Oscar trivia questions and one of them was "What is the shortest running time of a Best Picture Oscar winner. In looking them all up it was between Marty and Annie Hall and there was some discrepancy in the running time of Marty when we looked it up in some source books. So we put the two movies on the VCR's at the same time and looked to see which one ended first. It was Marty.

Indeed, even now I just looked up the running time of Marty on IMDB and it says 94 minutes. On Wikipedia it says 90 minutes. You'd think by now that would be corrected. Annie Hall is listed at 93 minutes and in the IMDB trivia category it says it's the second shortest film to win Best Picture and that Marty is the shortest...at 91 minutes. That's why we put them on and checked!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 15, 2020, 10:45:51 AM
Ernest Borgnine was the guest star for the very first episode of Wagon Train, "The Willy Moran Story," broadcast September 18, 1957.

(The cast for that episode included Andrew Duggan, Kevin Hagen, and Marjorie Lord.)

Was Marty with Rod Steiger somehow preserved? That would be interesting to see. I have never seen Rod Steiger in a sympathetic role.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 15, 2020, 10:53:23 AM
I remember the F Troop episode. I probably saw it in reruns at some point.

I have the two seasons of F Troop on DVD. It holds up better than one might think. Especially if you have a tolerance for silliness, which I do. The first season is in b&w and second in color. Paul Lynde is hilarious in one episode where he plays a singing Mountie. I believe it was the first color episode. There's a b&w episode where Ken Berry and Melody Patterson (who lied about her age to get the role-she was only 16 or 17! Something like that)...where the two have a dinner date and they do an extremely amusing take-off on the dinner scene in Tom Jones.

The Coen brothers must also have liked this series, too. In their Oscar nominated film A Simple Man, set in 1967, the lead character's son is a super-fan of F Troop and must be able to watch it when it airs. (Remember those days?)

I guess mostly I remember him from guest appearances on shows like Dean Martin's show. Honestly, Rickles may be the reason I developed a distaste for insult comedy. I really never cared for him.

I have to agree, I was never really a fan of him, either, especially when he was so ubiquitous appearing on everything, it seemed. I never understood why people would laugh when Rickles was making insulting jokes about them. (I don't care for those shows where a person gets roasted, either.) This is probably why Rickles never had a really successful sitcom. That kind of character isn't someone you'd gravitate to easily.

I remember the show [CPO Sharkey], but I never watched it. There may have been several reasons for that, but surely one of them was my dislike of Rickles.

I think this, CPO Sharkey, was his greatest sitcom success because Drill Sergeant's are very similar to his comedy premise of insults and the like. It was a great fit. (There are some actors I dislike, but if you see them play a role where they're supposed to be unlikeable, you can appreciate it, for example. Or if their personality fits the role, like Rickles in this one.) Maybe some of the big names he'd always insult, and he drew a lot of big names in his circle, felt it kept them from getting a big head or something, I don't know.

I'm getting the urge to see CPO Sharkey now! I may not have even seen most of Season 2 as I didn't have a TV at that time! Wonder if I should try and see how much the DVD's are?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 15, 2020, 11:02:43 AM
Was Marty with Rod Steiger somehow preserved? That would be interesting to see. I have never seen Rod Steiger in a sympathetic role.

It was an hour long TV presentation. (Maybe one of those live shows back then.) It starred Rod Steiger, Nancy Marchand, Betsy Palmer and Nehemiah Persoff. We had it on VHS when I worked at Video West. I just looked it up, you can find it on Amazon, a DVD. Or watch it on Amazon Prime. Other places would sell it, too, if Amazon does. It looks like Delbert Mann also directed the TV production.



Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 15, 2020, 11:09:31 AM

Jeff, on occasion I've wondered what a gay-themed version of Marty would be like. I especially thought about it when Borgnine made those homophobic remarks about BBM 15 years ago.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 15, 2020, 12:59:29 PM
Jeff, on occasion I've wondered what a gay-themed version of Marty would be like. I especially thought about it when Borgnine made those homophobic remarks about BBM 15 years ago.

Way OT for this thread, but I first saw BBM 15 years ago this Friday. I have the ticket stub to prove it. I keep it in my copy of Story to Screenplay. (Where has my life gone?)

Anyway, I liked F Troop, though I have to say it's another one of those shows where I liked the first season the best. (Melody Patterson died five years ago. I always think of her as Mrs. James MacArthur [1970-1975] because I always had a major crush on him! ["Book him, Dano. ..."])

Thanks for the tip on Marty! A gay version of it would be interesting. I'd watch it, though it might hit a little close to home.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 15, 2020, 06:56:32 PM
Way OT for this thread, but I first saw BBM 15 years ago this Friday. I have the ticket stub to prove it. I keep it in my copy of Story to Screenplay. (Where has my life gone?)

Well it may be a tad off topic in the TV thread since it was a movie, but it is a classic, and since this is a BBM forum, I think you're safe in posting this about anywhere!! :D

Oh, Happy Anniversary on your first viewing, BTW!!!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 19, 2020, 12:58:24 PM
Well, I guess all good things do come to an end eventually.

Today I was watching my Saturday morning Westerns on MeTV, when there appeared a commercial advertising that beginning January 4, MeTV would be running three hours of cartoons on Saturday mornings. The commercial didn't specify, but I presume that will be in the time slot now given over to the Westerns.

I like classic Bugs Bunny cartoons as much as the next person, but, I'm sorry, Bugs is no substitute for Robert Horton.

 :(

Incidentally, James Coburn was in the cast of one of the episodes of Have Gun, Will Travel that ran this morning. He wasn't a "guest star." He was just in the cast.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 19, 2020, 06:58:28 PM
Well, I guess all good things do come to an end eventually.

Today I was watching my Saturday morning Westerns on MeTV, when there appeared a commercial advertising that beginning January 4, MeTV would be running three hours of cartoons on Saturday mornings. The commercial didn't specify, but I presume that will be in the time slot now given over to the Westerns.

I like classic Bugs Bunny cartoons as much as the next person, but, I'm sorry, Bugs is no substitute for Robert Horton.

 :(

Incidentally, James Coburn was in the cast of one of the episodes of Have Gun, Will Travel that ran this morning. He wasn't a "guest star." He was just in the cast.


Interesting.  I wonder what made them make that decision.  I would assume the audience for that would be rather small.  I don't see many adults watching cartoons, and today's kids want to see today's cartoons, and there are networks that run them almost all day.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 20, 2020, 10:50:57 AM

Interesting.  I wonder what made them make that decision.  I would assume the audience for that would be rather small.  I don't see many adults watching cartoons, and today's kids want to see today's cartoons, and there are networks that run them almost all day.

Maybe ratings were dropping as they repeat the Westerns' episodes many times over. Plus, their thing is nostalgia, so I guess Bugs Bunny cartoons qualify.

I wouldn't mind seeing The Flintstones, either. MeTV shows it, but they do it at 6 p.m., opposite the evening news.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 20, 2020, 12:41:34 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing The Flintstones, either.

Santa should bring you the newly released Blu-Ray box set of ALL seasons of The Flintstones!!!
(It's on DVD, too.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 20, 2020, 01:40:57 PM
Santa should bring you the newly released Blu-Ray box set of ALL seasons of The Flintstones!!!
(It's on DVD, too.)

I'll take Rocky and Bullwinkle, too.  ;D

Decades ago, when the Cartoon Network was just getting started and they showed the good old stuff, I believe I saw something that I don't think I'd ever seen before (or at least have no memory of): The pilot episode of The Flintstones. The buildings of Bedrock, including the houses of the Flintstones and the Rubbles, looked very different from what we came to know.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 20, 2020, 02:01:27 PM
Interesting.

I've posted about the Flintstones on another thread here.  They were one of the few cartoons that allowed their characters to grow up.

In the 70s  there was The Pebbles and Bamm Bamm show, and they were aged to teens there, in high school and dating.

Later we were given I Yabba Dabba Do, where Pebbles and Bamm Bamm got married.

After that we got "Rock A Bye Baby", where they move to HollyRock (wood) so Bamm Bamm can become a screen writer, and Pebbles has twins, Roxy and Chip.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 20, 2020, 02:12:20 PM
I liked watching The Flintstones growing up, but I never developed any affection for it as years went by. I was always more interested in The Jetsons. Some decades later I was really surprised that The Jetsons only had ONE season. (No one counts the misguided revival of some additional episodes in 1987.) I had a huge Jetsons/Flintstones coloring book as a child, must've been 100 or more pages, and I don't think I ever colored any of The Flintstones pages, heh! I'd like to see that, now!

I remember once when they were planning a Jetsons live action movie, I was very excited about that, but it never happened. It was going to star Chevy Chase and Goldie Hawn, which I thought would be great.

About 20 years ago or so I got a newly released Jetsons Hallmark Christmas Ornament. It is the family sitting in their flying car inside the plastic bubble. Astro, too. If you plug it into a string of lights with the attachment, the dashboard lights up their faces and there's moving lights by the exhaust that make it look like it's flying/moving somewhat. I've mostly kept it on top of my dresser...all year long!

I looked it up, it's from 1996, and they are going for upwards of $70 online now! I believe the original price was $20. Here's a photo I found of it:

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ZWoAAOSwD1Ne-Lxv/s-l500.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 20, 2020, 07:55:33 PM
^^^^^^ That's really cool!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 21, 2020, 10:29:56 AM
I had a huge Jetsons/Flintstones coloring book as a child

I can kind of sort of do you one better. From the 1950s to the early 1970s, the Marx toy company was know for making play sets based on movies and TV shows. They made one based on The Flintstones, and I had it. It had miniature structures to make a play Bedrock, dinosaurs, palm trees, and "character figures" of Fred and Wilma and Barney and Betty and Dino. There was even a miniature of Fred's car.

(Marx made a Fort Apache play set, which was one of the best things that Santa ever brought me. There was also a Wagon Train set, with character figures of Major Adams and Flint McCullough.

The Fort Apache set went through several versions. An early one was based on the Rin-Tin-Tin TV show; that set included a character figure of the dog.

These playsets, if they're complete and in the original box, go for stinking amounts of money. My Flintstones set disappeared 50 years ago or more. A few years ago I found one on eBay. I don't remember what I payed for it, but it wasn't a stinking amount. Some parts of my Fort Apache set remained; I was able to buy most of the missing pieces on eBay.)

 
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must've been 100 or more pages, and I don't think I ever colored any of The Flintstones pages, heh! I'd like to see that, now!

Well, check eBay. When I was a kid I had a Daniel Boone activity book; it had some pages to color, as well as other games. I found one on eBay. I bet you could find your coloring book, maybe even with none or few of the pages colored.

I liked The Jetsons. too. Can you sing the theme song?  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 21, 2020, 02:56:51 PM
Yes I can sing the Jetson's theme song.

"Meet George Jetson, his boy Elroy, daughter Judy, Jane his wife .....

https://youtu.be/tTq6Tofmo7E
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 21, 2020, 03:00:12 PM
7 Technologies from "The Jetson's" that actually exist today

https://youtu.be/usXvCZQocWo

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 22, 2020, 01:22:57 PM
^^^

That's quite interesting, Linda! I did not know there was a Roomba for cutting your grass! Heh!

They mentioned actually now having treadmills for dogs like George does with Astro.
There is a Hallmark ornament of that, too. (I do not have it.)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/2504/4240246232_fa02fbe7c4_z.jpg)

It says "features sound." Wonder what sound? The cat yelling? George calling to Jane?




Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 22, 2020, 01:23:26 PM

I see there was a Rosie ornament, too. The metallic blue is a nice touch!

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/9P4AAOSwZKJehIz8/s-l1600.jpg)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on December 22, 2020, 01:49:15 PM
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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 23, 2020, 01:39:40 AM
^^^

That's quite interesting, Linda! I did not know there was a Roomba for cutting your grass! Heh!

Yeah, Lyle, I've seen it advertised on tv several times. I'm not sure how effective it would be though.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 25, 2020, 06:12:36 PM
Well, tomorrow would be my last Saturday morning of Westerns on MeTV, but I expect to be missing them (other things to do while I'm visiting my father).
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 29, 2020, 10:15:14 AM
Well, tomorrow would be my last Saturday morning of Westerns on MeTV, but I expect to be missing them (other things to do while I'm visiting my father).

Coincidentally, the Dec. 28 issue of The New Yorker has an article about a book about early animation. The book apparently spends a lot of space on Max and David Fleischer, creators of Betty Boop and Popeye the Sailor. Apparently a lot of space is devoted to Chuck Jones and Tex Avery and "the hyper-energetic, demonic band of cartoonists who helped establish the Warner Bros. animation studio in the thirties and forties."

It seems that the book does not come far enough forward in time to cover Hann-Barbera (The Flintstones, et al.), but the author does give a tip of the hat to Mister Magoo's Christmas Carol from 1962. (I remember watching that as a child and wouldn't mind seeing it again. One thing I didn't know: the music for Mr. Magoo was by "two Broadway A-listers, Jule Styne and Bob Merrill." (Mr. Magoo was voiced by Jim Backus, aka Thurston Howell III.)

The book is Wild Minds: The Artists and Rivalries That Inspired the Golden Age of Animation, by Reid Mitenbuler.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 29, 2020, 01:27:57 PM
^^^

Jeff, I remember when Mister Magoo's Christmas Carol first came on in 1962! The kids in my class talked about it before it aired and we were all anticipating it. The next day I remember a lot of the guys conversation was about that door knocker. Heh!

Then, of course, when it first aired I saw it in b&w and always looked forward to it in subsequent years. I don't think I ever saw it in color until it was released on VHS in the 80's and got a copy of it. I have not gotten it on DVD and didn't even know it was on Blu-Ray until recently.

In 2009 an expensive coffee table book was produced about this special and the making of it. I think it cost $75. I wanted it but at that time could never have swung $75 for it. Over the subsequent years I saw it on eBay selling for outrageous amounts! Right now there's one listed on there for $399.99 -- plus $20 shipping! OMG, there's one on there for $1008.00!

It was advertised as: In the winter of 1962, a time of three gargantuan broadcast networks and a power-wielding block of national advertisers, a relatively tiny ornament called Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol would herald a family holiday TV tradition that has all but slipped into obscurity in the wake of the numerous Christmas specials that it inspired. This volume, with a foreword by noted film historian and critic Leonard Maltin, has been meticulously researched to uncover the untold, behind-the-scenes story of producing the first ever animated Christmas special. It's filled with lost photos of the song recording sessions, stories and photos of key personnel and over 200 images of extremely rare production art detailing the entire animation process, including excised material. This beautifully designed book is a keepsake for lovers of animation, fans of Broadway musicals, mid-century design enthusiasts and all those who have a warm spot in their heart for this almost forgotten Christmas treasure. It took an amazing, quirky confluence of unlikely events to bring Mr. Magoo's Christmas Carol to life. It was the first (and one of the most beloved) of all animated television Christmas specials.

(https://images.booksense.com/images/112/778/9780578778112.jpg)

Because of your post, Jeff, I am learning some things.  The first edition of this was sold online with a limit of 250 copies and was signed and autographed. Later, an updated hardcover copy with 50 more pages and 200 more photos was published in 2010. A 50th Anniversary hardcover was done in 2012, but not much different. Or something like that, it's kind of confusing to find a timeline of this.

But--what I learned is that, and I didn't know this, they released a new softcover (paperback, I guess) version of this book on October 29th of this year! If I had known this previously I would've gotten one! (Now what do I do?)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 29, 2020, 03:30:07 PM
Thanks, Lyle! That's fascinating! I remember seeing it on TV more than once, but I may not have seen the original broadcast in 1962. (I was 4 that Christmas season.)

I guess nobody could do Mr. Magoo anymore. His extreme nearsightedness would be construed as insensitive to people with vision problems, and, possibly much worse, I seem to recall from the cartoons that Mr. Magoo had a stereotypical Chinese "houseboy."

Just as I'm sure nobody could get away with a character who appeared in Have Gun, Will Travel, a Chinese man who worked at the San Francisco hotel where Paladin lived who was called Hey Boy.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 30, 2020, 02:21:33 PM
I just saw on AOL News that Dawn Wells has died from Covid-19 complications. She was 82.

R.I.P., Mary Ann.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 30, 2020, 03:22:56 PM
^^^

Very sad. She was such a nice human being and always kind to her legions of fans from the TV series. I never got to see her in person. Ginger's the only one left.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 30, 2020, 03:26:21 PM

George Pennacchio, a long time ABC entertainment reporter on ABC7 in Los Angeles, writes: She [Dawn Wells] was a positive spirit in the show biz world. May this kind, lovely star be at peace.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 30, 2020, 03:31:38 PM

Thanks, Lyle! That's fascinating! I remember seeing it on TV more than once, but I may not have seen the original broadcast in 1962. (I was 4 that Christmas season.)

I guess nobody could do Mr. Magoo anymore. His extreme nearsightedness would be construed as insensitive to people with vision problems, and, possibly much worse, I seem to recall from the cartoons that Mr. Magoo had a stereotypical Chinese "houseboy."

Just as I'm sure nobody could get away with a character who appeared in Have Gun, Will Travel, a Chinese man who worked at the San Francisco hotel where Paladin lived who was called Hey Boy.


I saw a film at AMPAS about a decade or more ago, and they showed the Oscar winning short subject of that year, too, which was a Mr. Magoo theatrical release. It was so hilarious. I remember back then looking up to see if those were on DVD in a collection, but they were not. The TV Magoo cartoons were, but those were not drawn nearly as well and I wanted the theatrical ones.

Well, also because of your post and me looking things up yesterday, I discovered that they have released the Mr. Magoo theatrically released cartoons, 1949-1959. And there are 53 of them and 12 of them are widescreen! Also included is Magoo's 1959 theatrical film 1001 Nights!  At some upcoming point I will definitely get this. And that book. You're costing me money, Jeff! But it will be worth it. I'd have had the DVD already, it was released 6 years ago, !!!, but I did not know that!

I seem to recall from the cartoons that Mr. Magoo had a stereotypical Chinese "houseboy."

I don't have the answer, but someone in the comments/reviews section asked about that. They said the houseboy in the TV collection was dubbed over with a different voice. I would hope they didn't do that with the theatrical versions. But my limited research is that Charlie or Cholly, wasn't in the theatrical releases.

Apparently the houseboy was dubbed over at some point in the TV cartoons, but in releasing them in the collection the studio tried to find the original voice. Apparently they could not find the original for 9 of the episodes, though.

Anyway, Jerry Beck is a noted historian of animation, especially Warner Brothers, and he reviewed it (theatrical cartoons release) when it came out, did not mention any controversies with it, and he would have, and he gave it glowing reviews!

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You're costing me money, Jeff!

Or maybe saving me money, the theatrical collection is $10 cheaper now than when it first came out!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 31, 2020, 10:14:40 AM
I just saw on AOL News that Dawn Wells has died from Covid-19 complications. She was 82.

R.I.P., Mary Ann.  :(


Very sad. She was such a nice human being and always kind to her legions of fans from the TV series. I never got to see her in person. Ginger's the only one left.
George Pennacchio, a long time ABC entertainment reporter on ABC7 in Los Angeles, writes: She [Dawn Wells] was a positive spirit in the show biz world. May this kind, lovely star be at peace.

I always had the impression that Dawn Wells was Mary Ann, and Mary Ann was Dawn Wells. The news of  her death makes me very sad indeed.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 09, 2021, 09:55:59 AM
Well, this was certainly an odd one: Darren Stevens himself (Dick York) as a Native American in the episode of Wagon Train that ran this morning. It was originally broadcast in March 1962.

Buddy Ebsen was in the Maverick episode this morning. I'd seen that one before. I'd never seen the Wagon Train episode.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on January 28, 2021, 10:25:32 PM
Cloris Leachman, the decorated actress of stage and screen best known for her role as the annoyingly perfect landlady Phyllis Lindstrom on The Mary Tyler Moore Show, died on January 27, 2021. She was 94. Leachman's manager, Juliet Green, confirms to PEOPLE that the actress died Wednesday of natural causes.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on January 28, 2021, 10:27:43 PM
Cicely Tyson, Emmy- and Tony-winning actress whose electrifying portrayals of resilient Black women — foremost in the 1974 TV movie “The Autobiography of Miss Jane Pittman” but also as Coretta Scott King and Harriet Tubman — brought some of the first ennobling portrayals of African Americans to a vast television audience, died on Thursday afternoon, January 28, 2021. She was 96.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 06, 2021, 10:51:31 AM
MeTV is now showing classic cartoons on Saturday mornings, the good old Warner Bros. stuff, like the Cartoon Network did when it first got started.

Anyway, this morning I saw something I'm sure I've never seen before (and now am dying to see again): The Bugs Bunny version of Casablanca!  :laugh:   :laugh:   :laugh:

If you don't know Casablanca, I guess you might be lost, but I know it, and I thought it was very funny. Bugs, of course, had Bogie's role. Daffy Duck was the piano player; Sylvester the Cat was Victor Laszlo, Pepe Lepew was the prefect of police (the Claude Rains role), and Tweetie Pie was Peter Lorre. The cat that Pepe is always chasing was Ingrid Bergman.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on February 06, 2021, 11:18:35 AM
I'd like to see it! It dates from 1995.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrotblanca

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on February 06, 2021, 11:30:44 AM
That's fantastic! Thanks, Jeff!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKxP18Kvgr8

There are so many elements in it I had to back up in many places. I wish it was clear enough to read the bumper sticker on the car with the license plate NUTZ 2 U, it seems to say "my other car is a..." but I can't make out the last word.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on February 08, 2021, 10:44:09 AM
It's a shame that Porky Pig as Signor Ferrari wasn't developed.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on February 15, 2021, 02:03:22 PM
Major troubles for Joss Whedon.

For those who don't know him, Whedon is an American film director, producer, writer, and composer. He is the founder of Mutant Enemy Productions, he co-founded Bellwether Pictures, and is best known as the creator of several television series. These include Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1997–2003), Angel (1999–2004), Firefly (2002), Dollhouse (2009–2010), and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (2013–2020). He also produces, directs, and has written several films.

Whedon co-wrote for the Pixar animated film Toy Story (1995) (for which he was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Original Screenplay), wrote and directed the Firefly film continuation Serenity (2005), co-wrote and directed the Internet miniseries Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog (2008), and co-wrote and produced the horror comedy film The Cabin in the Woods (2012). He wrote and directed the Marvel Cinematic Universe superhero films The Avengers (2012) and its sequel Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015), and also co-wrote the script for the DC Extended Universe superhero film Justice League (2017). He also served as director for Justice League on re-shoots, replacing Zack Snyder.



Turns out, he's a prick.

In July 2020, Justice League actor Ray Fisher accused Whedon of showing "gross, abusive, unprofessional, and completely unacceptable" behavior toward the cast and crew of the film. Fisher later added that he invites Whedon to sue him for slander if he believes that these allegations are untrue.

Actor Jason Momoa (who played Aquaman in Justice League) posted in support of Fisher, writing about "the shitty way [they] were treated on Justice League reshoots" and saying "serious stuff went down".

Ray Fisher also claimed that Whedon's exit from HBO's The Nevers was a result of HBO parent company WarnerMedia's inquiry into allegations of Joss' behavoir.  "I have no intention of allowing Joss Whedon to use the old Hollywood tactic of 'exiting'," he tweeted, "This is undoubtedly a result of [the investigation]."

Gal Gadot (who played Wonder Woman in both Wonder Woman movies and in Justice League) told the Los Angeles Times that she "had her own experience [with Whedon] and it wasn't the best one" but she "took it to the higher-ups and they took care of it."

In February 2021, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel actress Charisma Carpenter alleged that Whedon had "abused his power on numerous occasions", calling him a "vampire" and "casually cruel". In a tweeted statement, Carpenter said that Whedon had called her "fat" and asked her "if [she] was going to keep it" upon learning of her pregnancy, mocked her religious faith, and repeatedly threatened to fire her. Carpenter also revealed that she had participated in Warner Media's Justice League investigation.

Amber Benson (Tara on Buffy) and Michelle Trachtenberg (Dawn on Buffy) corroborated Carpenter's allegations. On social media, Benson wrote "Buffy was a toxic environment and it starts at the top. [Charisma Carpenter] is speaking truth", and Trachtenberg wrote that "we know what he did" and alleged that his behavior towards her (Trachtenberg) when she was a teenager was "Very. Not. Appropriate." Trachtenberg later stated on social media that there was a rule on set preventing Whedon from being in a room alone with her. Buffy star Sarah Michelle Gellar also lent her support and distanced herself from Whedon.

In recent days, Nicholas Brendon (Xander on Buffy), Eliza Dushku (Faith on Buffy), David Boreanaz (Angel on both Buffy and Angel) and Emma Caulfield (Anya on Buffy)  have all released statements against Whedon and supporting Charisma Carpenter, Amber Benson and Michelle Trachtenberg.

Jose Molina, a writer from Firefly, also spoke out against Whedon's behavior saying, "'Casually cruel' is a perfect way of describing Joss," and adding, "He thought being mean was funny. Making female writers cry during a notes session was especially hysterical. He actually liked to boast about the time he made one writer cry twice in one meeting."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 16, 2021, 12:25:12 PM
Always a shame to find out that people responsible for the media things that we love are, well, human beings, but when we find out the bad things it's harder to overcome not associating them with mixed feelings.

It's why so many refuse to believe anything about Michael Jackson despite the mountains of evidence. They loved what he did and associate it with so many good times and growing up and one doesn't want to give that up for reality. It's no wonder the Hollywood Studios all had publicity machines in their heydays to keep their actors foibles contained from the general public.
 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 03, 2021, 01:32:46 PM

Oh......online drama via Twitter over the past few days after a former "Charmed" producer put some statements on Twitter about her time on the show.

Krista Vernoff Vernoff – who is the current showrunner for Grey's Anatomy and Station 19 – said in an interview with The Hollywood Reporter that she worried Charmed was becoming "bad for the world" after she was allegedly pressured to write more revealing scenes.

"I signed on because Charmed was a girl-power show, and about halfway through there was an episode where Alyssa Milano comes out in mermaid pasties and there was a huge spike in male viewership, and then every episode after, the question would come from the network, 'How are we getting the girls naked this week?'" she told the outlet.

Vernoff, 47, said that the pressure kept increasing as viewership went up. She told THR: "And they were throwing money at me, and the number keeps going up, and there's all this pressure, and all I can think is, 'I'm creating something that's now bad for the world, and I've had enough bad for the world in my life.' "

Alyssa Milano, who played sister Phoebe Halliwell on "Charmed"  responded with:  "Well, this absolutely broke my heart, I hope we didn't make something that was 'bad for the world' for eight years.  I think we gave permission to a generation of women to be themselves and to be strong and own their sexuality. I'm so proud of what this show meant to so many."

Holly Marie Combs, who played sister Piper Halliwell on "Charmed" replied to Alyssa with:  "I can attest 1000% Charmed was not bad for the world. The reasons and people are too long to list. Maybe it was bad for Krista's world at the time. End story.  And the fact that we can still stand up for ourselves and the show and the people who loved it proves this.  I never cared what producer or network exec wanted us more naked for their $. And still don't. We knew how to rally against it and found our own power. And still do. #Facts"

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/alyssa-milano-holly-marie-combs-004924805.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on April 03, 2021, 06:54:05 PM
Always some kind of drama. I had to look up the dates it was on. 8 years is a long time.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 03, 2021, 06:58:46 PM
Always some kind of drama. I had to look up the dates it was on. 8 years is a long time.

Yes, it was quite the ratings hit when it was on the air.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 11, 2021, 11:12:23 AM
Hawkeye: The First Frontier is hardly a classic, but it's not contemporary, either, so I'll say a little bit here. I'd never heard of it until quite a few years ago now, when I noticed it in a catalog of DVDs. It's one type of show I like, so I bought it, binge-watched it, and enjoyed it. Last night I couldn't decide what I wanted to watch, so I pulled it off the shelf and watched a few episodes. I may watch the whole series again.

This was a one-season show, 1994-95, produced by Stephen J. Cannell. Of course it was inspired by The Last of the Mohicans, (I might think more by the Daniel Day Lewis movie than by the novel). I'm inclined to think of it as a kind of "alternative universe" rather than a prequel, although a minor supporting character is Colonel Munro, the father of Cora and Alice in the novel and movie.

The title character is played by hunky Lee Horsley, and Lynda Carter is the female lead. The show, pretty obviously, is set on the frontier of what is now Upstate New York during the French and Indian War. Elizabeth Shields (Carter) and her husband William are journeying to Fort Bennington to take over running the trading post. On the way they are attacked by Native Americans allied with the French and are rescued by frontiersman Hawkeye and his Delaware Indian brother Chingachgook.

The fort is commanded by William Shields' brother, a captain in the British Army. Because of a quarrel over money (family inheritance), Captain Shields betrays his brother and arranges for him to be captured by Indians and turned over to the French as a prisoner. The show then revolves around Elizabeth's attempts, with Hawkeye's help, to rescue her husband. An interesting thing about the show is that each episode is stand-alone, but they're all tied together by the on-going plot to get Elizabeth's conceited doofus of a husband back from the French.

In the view of this history major, the production values (sets, costumes, weapons, and so forth) are quite high and accurate. The credits list Vancouver as the filming location, and I must say the scenery is gorgeous. In the episodes I watched last night I noticed only one glaring goof: a minor supporting character says "Hi" when he introduces himself to Mrs. Shields. (I wonder if that was an accident?) Also, in a period show like this, if the lead female character is a married woman, she should not be bare-headed; Carter should be wearing a cap of some kind.

Last night I found myself wondering if this was only intended to be a one-season show. It has to have been expensive to produce. Of course a romance develops between Hawkeye and Mrs. Shields. By the end--Spoiler Alert  ;D --William Shields is dead, so Hawkeye and Elizabeth are free to pursue their relationship. So where would they go from there?

Most of my history studies were about Colonial America, so I'm a sucker for a show like this.

(Where on earth did James Fennimore Cooper get names like Natty Bumppo and Chingachgook? I read the novel when I was a kid. It was a great success in its day, but I found it well-nigh unreadable.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 11, 2021, 03:48:00 PM

Many of James Fenimore Cooper's books, like Last of the Mohicans, were located in areas in and around where I grew up so we were steeped in -- especially The Last of the Mohicans. If I recall correctly we visited his home on a class trip when we went to Cooperstown, so it may have been near or on the way there.

I often keep thinking that he wrote Drums Along the Mohawk, which is really the place I grew up...the Mohawk Valley. But he didn't, but I can never remember who did write that. So I'll look it up: Walter D. Edmonds. And I learned something new. I always thought that book was written in contemporary times as Cooper's books were. But Drums Along the Mohawk was first published in 1936!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on April 11, 2021, 04:32:14 PM
I remember seeing the movie on TV, an early Technicolor production.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 12, 2021, 07:07:23 AM
Many of James Fenimore Cooper's books, like Last of the Mohicans, were located in areas in and around where I grew up so we were steeped in -- especially The Last of the Mohicans. If I recall correctly we visited his home on a class trip when we went to Cooperstown, so it may have been near or on the way there.

I often keep thinking that he wrote Drums Along the Mohawk, which is really the place I grew up...the Mohawk Valley. But he didn't, but I can never remember who did write that. So I'll look it up: Walter D. Edmonds. And I learned something new. I always thought that book was written in contemporary times as Cooper's books were. But Drums Along the Mohawk was first published in 1936!

I love that book! I've read it many times.

The movie is good, if you like that sort of movie, which I do. It's a John Ford production and came out in that miraculous movie year 1939. However, I think Claudette Colbert is seriously miscast as Lana. Henry Fonda is fine as Gil.

Edna Mae Oliver is a hoot as Mrs. McKlennar. My old favorite Ward Bond is the scout Adam Helmer.

I first read the book when I was in Junior High. I've wanted to visit the Mohawk Valley.

Hmm, 1936? That was the same year Gone With the Wind was published.

Side note: The German Flats fort set was used something like 25 years later in the first episode of Daniel Boone. Stock footage of the fort was used throughout the series as a distant shot of Boonesborough.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 12, 2021, 11:45:28 AM
^^^

I remember my mother telling me something about remembering talk of them filming some location footage for the movie around our area. I just looked up filming locations on IMDB for the film and they don't list any New York State locations. They list 5 locations in Utah, the 20th Century Fox studio of course and Cook County, Pennsylvania, USA.  Jeff, do you know where that is?

Maybe they were just looking, but didn't actually film anything in New York State. (I also don't know how accurate IMDB is about things, like where do they get all this information?)

I never actually thought about Claudette Colbert being miscast, but I haven't read the book, either. Agree that Edna Mae Oliver is a hoot, and use that word myself for her in that movie. She got a supporting actress nomination for that, but was up against two performances from Gone with the Wind! If they'd had Supporting Actress Oscars in 1935, she might very well have won for either of MGM's fantastic films: A Tale of Two Cities or David Copperfield. She was fantastic in both. W.C. Fields might even have won (or at least been nominated) for David Copperfield. He was an inspired choice and perfect to play Micawber. Supporting Oscars were not part of the Oscars until 1936.

I read some trivia about that just recently. It's said that AMPAS decided supporting awards were necessary to avoid what happened in 1935: The lead actor category consisted of three actors nominated for Mutiny on the Bounty: Gable, Laughton and Franchot Tone, who made the list as a write-in candidate...allowed at the time. I think any of those three were better than the winner. I don't know why Victor McLaglen was chosen for The Informer. No one seems to care a whit about that film now. If they've even heard of it. I saw it once and remember nothing about it. (Like Nomadland will be regarded soon, if it isn't already. :o )
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 12, 2021, 12:35:54 PM
I remember my mother telling me something about remembering talk of them filming some location footage for the movie around our area. I just looked up filming locations on IMDB for the film and they don't list any New York State locations. They list 5 locations in Utah, the 20th Century Fox studio of course and Cook County, Pennsylvania, USA.  Jeff, do you know where that is?

Maybe they were just looking, but didn't actually film anything in New York State. (I also don't know how accurate IMDB is about things, like where do they get all this information?)

There is no Cook County in Pennsylvania, so that must be one error in IMDb.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 12, 2021, 03:25:19 PM
^^^

Wouldn't you know!

In googling I found a "Cook Township, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania." ???
Or a "Cooke Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 12, 2021, 03:43:29 PM
^^^

Wouldn't you know!

In googling I found a "Cook Township, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania." ???
Or a "Cooke Township, Cumberland County, Pennsylvania."

Neither seem very likely to me to have been possible shooting locations for DATM, even in the Thirties. Even today, some of the counties that are known as "The Northern Tier," along the New York line, might be more likely. In some of those counties up there, it's still said that there are more deer than people. But maybe it all depends on which scenes they might have shot.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 08, 2021, 08:47:03 AM
HAPPY BELATED BOITDAY
JEFF
DAWLIN HAWT!!!!


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2021, 08:27:47 PM
Thanks.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 29, 2021, 06:51:30 PM
I suppose everyone has heard the Gavin MacCleod has died. Sad news.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on May 31, 2021, 07:26:24 PM
I don't think anyone posted this, but just saw it myself. Johnny Crawford of "The Rifleman" fame, died on April 29, 2021, of Covid that turned into pneumonia. He was 75 yo. He had been diagnosed with Alzheimer's Disease in early 2019 and was placed in a 24 hour Alzheimer's care facility.

This is a YT video of his life and roles.

https://youtu.be/V6NZ_VJwwdo
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 01, 2021, 06:48:29 AM
I don't think anyone posted this, but just saw it myself. Johnny Crawford of "The Rifleman" fame, died on April 29, 2021, of Covid that turned into pneumonia. He was 75 yo. He had been diagnosed with Alzheimer's Disease in early 2019 and was placed in a 24 hour Alzheimer's care facility.

This is a YT video of his life and roles.

https://youtu.be/V6NZ_VJwwdo

I hadn't heard. That's really sad news. Thanks for letting us know.

Gosh, with MeTV still showing The Rifleman, it's hard to think of him as 75.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 11, 2021, 02:39:02 PM
Yesterday morning's episode of Wagon Train was one of my favorites, "The C.L. Harding Story," from 1959. C.L. Harding was a newspaper reporter who, much to Major Adams' annoyance, turned out to be Cecilia Lucinda Harding--and she was played by the Hollywood veteran Claire Trevor. Hard to believe that episode is over 60 years old. Still, it was great to watch those two veterans, Claire Trevor and Ward Bond, acting together.

Johnny Cash--the Johnny Cash--had a supporting role in that episode.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 12, 2021, 10:57:52 AM

That same year, Claire Trevor guest starred in the second episode aired of The Untouchables: Ma Barker and Her Boys.

She, of course, was Ma Barker. Louise Fletcher also had a role in that episode as one of the Barker boys girlfriends.

The Wagon Train and Untouchables episodes aired 8 days apart!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 12, 2021, 11:45:14 AM
Louise Fletcher also had a role in the Season 2, episode 35 episode of Wagon Train (aired June 3, 1959), "The Andrew Hale Story." What a cast that episode had (in addition to Fletcher): John McIntire, James Best, Jane Darwell, Clu Gulager--and Jack Buetel.

Just imagine: In those days, a TV series had 38 episodes in a season!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on July 12, 2021, 02:19:23 PM
Amazing star power those series had back then.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Flyboy on July 12, 2021, 05:02:59 PM
Whatever happened to Louise anyway? After One Flew Over the CooKoo's Nest, she seemed to disappear!  :o
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 12, 2021, 05:56:40 PM
Whatever happened to Louise anyway? After One Flew Over the CooKoo's Nest, she seemed to disappear!  :o


According to Wikipedia, she's kept busy.


Estelle Louise Fletcher (born July 22, 1934), known professionally as Louise Fletcher, is an American actress. She had her acting debut in the television series 77 Sunset Strip in the 1957/58 season. She guest starred in the television series Bat Masterson (episode "Cheyenne Club"), Maverick (episode "The Saga of Waco Williams") with James Garner, and Wagon Train in 1959 before making her film debut in A Gathering of Eagles in 1963. In 1974, after a decade-long hiatus from acting in which she raised a family, Fletcher appeared in Robert Altman's Thieves Like Us.

Fletcher garnered international prominence with her portrayal of Nurse Ratched in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975), for which she won the Academy Award for Best Actress, BAFTA Award for Best Actress in a Leading Role and Golden Globe Award for Best Actress. Other notable film roles include Exorcist II: The Heretic (1977), Brainstorm (1983), Firestarter (1984), Flowers in the Attic (1987), 2 Days in the Valley (1996), and Cruel Intentions (1999).

Later in her career, Fletcher returned to television, appearing as Winn Adami in Star Trek: Deep Space Nine (1993–1999), as well as receiving Primetime Emmy Award nominations for her guest-starring roles in the television series Picket Fences (1996) and Joan of Arcadia (2004). In 2011–2012, she appeared in a recurring role on the television series Shameless as Frank Gallagher's foul-mouthed and hard-living mother who is serving a prison sentence for manslaughter. She portrayed the recurring role of Rosie on the series Girlboss (2017).
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 12, 2021, 08:31:16 PM
How can you forget? Louise Fletcher is in Big Eden!

I've seen that Maverick episode twice. If I see it again, I'll have to watch for her name in the credits.
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Post by: killersmom on July 12, 2021, 09:41:09 PM
How can you forget? Louise Fletcher is in Big Eden!

I've seen that Maverick episode twice. If I see it again, I'll have to watch for her name in the credits.

Not me, she was great!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 13, 2021, 07:08:49 AM
How can you forget? Louise Fletcher is in Big Eden!

Not me, she was great!

Grace is a very sweet character, and she is wonderful in the role.
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Post by: Flyboy on July 13, 2021, 09:08:13 AM
Thanks for all the info on Louise, but honestly, her early work was too soon for me! I'm so young. Never viewed any of her later work after her Oscar win. So I thought maybe she was a 'one and done' Actress!  ;D
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Post by: fritzkep on July 13, 2021, 03:28:17 PM
I remember watching her whenever she appeared on Deep Space Nine.

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Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 18, 2021, 09:38:22 PM


The Most Influential Classic Shows from TV's ‘Golden Age’

Ivan Roman - JUL 16, 2021


When television flickered into America's living rooms in the years after World War II, it took less than a decade for it to overtake radio as the nation's dominant entertainment medium. Between 1948 and 1959, years now considered the “Golden Age of Television,” a mix of pioneering shows, from "Howdy Doody" to “I Love Lucy” to “Dragnet,” began shaping and redefining TV—and with it, American culture.

While the technology for the new medium had been introduced before the war, it wasn’t until 1947 that full-scale commercial TV broadcasts began. At first, a handful of stations operated, with limited broadcast range. But as the number of stations, channels and programs scaled up, so did TV sales: U.S. households owning a TV set rose from 2 percent in 1948 to almost 90 percent by 1960.

Television heightened the nation’s sense of shared community, fostered for decades by radio. Americans could now see events happening live, thousands of miles away, from the comfort of their living rooms or local taverns. Some 29 million people around the country watched Dwight Eisenhower’s 1953 presidential inauguration. Five years later, 45 million football fans viewed the first-ever nationally televised Super Bowl, launching an annual ratings and advertising juggernaut.

Dominant TV personalities also captured the nation’s collective attention. Within two months of its 1948 debut, Milton Berle’s “Texaco Star Theater” was so popular, it was the only network show not preempted for coverage of Harry Truman’s surprise election upset over Thomas Dewey. And the same day that comedienne Lucille Ball, in real life, gave birth by a scheduled Cesarean section, 44 million households—or nearly three-quarters of those with a television—tuned in to see her TV alter ego Lucy Ricardo scramble to the hospital to give birth to Little Ricky.

https://www.history.com/news/classic-tv-shows-1950s-i-love-lucy-milton-berle
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Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 18, 2021, 09:42:06 PM
Amazon Will Add a Huge Collection of Classic TV to Prime Video and IMDb TV

Jess Barnes - 7/14/21


Amazon has made a deal with Sony Pictures Television that will bring content from producer Norman Lear to Prime Video and the company’s free streaming service IMDb TV.

Some of the iconic titles from Lear include All in the Family, Good Times, Maude, One Day at a Time, 227, Diff’rent Strokes, The Jeffersons, and Sanford & Son.

“Norman Lear is a national treasure and his impact on television and popular culture is immeasurable,” said Jennifer Salke, Head of Amazon Studios. “We are so honored to bring his classic television series to Prime Video and IMDb TV so new audiences and a new generation can laugh, enjoy and be inspired, like so many of us have been throughout the years.”

The titles will be divided between Prime Video and IMDb TV, with no overlap. The launch of the content on the services will begin July 15 when 227 and Diff’rent Strokes will begin streaming on Prime Video. The Jeffersons, Sanford & Son, will make their way to Prime Video later this year. All in the Family, Good Times, Maude, and One Day at a Time will be available on IMDb TV beginning July 15.

https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/amazon-will-add-a-huge-collection-of-classic-tv-to-prime-video-and-imdb-tv/
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 19, 2021, 03:15:34 PM
Very interesting, Chuck. Thanks. Norman Lear certainly revolutionized TV. I wonder how well some of those 1970s show will hold up now?
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Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 27, 2021, 05:18:22 PM


Jimmy (JJ) Walker (JJ from Good Times - his catch phrase was "Dyno-mite!") is now doing Medicare commercials.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6eAWX9qUEM
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 27, 2021, 08:15:54 PM

Jimmy (JJ) Walker (JJ from Good Times - his catch phrase was "Dyno-mite!") is now doing Medicare commercials.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6eAWX9qUEM

And LeVar Burton is hosting Jeopardy! this week. LeVar Burton is old. I feel old.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 31, 2021, 09:41:40 AM
Another Louise Fletcher episode on Wagon Train this morning. This is "The Tom Tuckett Story." It's the Wagon Train version of Great Expectations. Fletcher is the Estella character.

They also did a Wagon Train version of Pride and Prejudice I believe I've mentioned that before--maybe this one, too. They probably did versions of other great works of literature. I just haven't discovered them yet.
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Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 31, 2021, 09:51:49 AM
Another Louise Fletcher episode on Wagon Train this morning. This is "The Tom Tuckett Story." It's the Wagon Train version of Great Expectations. Fletcher is the Estella character.

They also did a Wagon Train version of Pride and Prejudice I believe I've mentioned that before--maybe this one, too. They probably did versions of other great works of literature. I just haven't discovered them yet.



Hi Jeff.   Are you watching these on the "MeTV" network?   I've just come across it, and their line up for the next few hours is Wagon Train, The Big Valley, and Gunsmoke.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 31, 2021, 02:00:50 PM
Hi Jeff.   Are you watching these on the "MeTV" network?   I've just come across it, and their line up for the next few hours is Wagon Train, The Big Valley, and Gunsmoke.

Yes, that's it. The Saturday morning line-up is Warner Bros, cartoons (Bugs Bunny et al.), Maverick (good, with James Garner playing himself, more or less), and then Wagon Train. Later in the day they have The Rifleman.

Notable for Wagon Train, according to Time magazine (April 1959) Robert Horton (the scout Flint McCullough) had measurements 42--31--40.
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Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 31, 2021, 02:33:46 PM
Ok, thanks!   I saw Wagon Train and immediately thought of you! 
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Post by: fritzkep on July 31, 2021, 03:08:03 PM
What? No biceps size?

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Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 31, 2021, 03:13:47 PM
:laugh:
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Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 31, 2021, 06:37:09 PM


Jeff, I have MeTV on now.   Have you seen Svengoolie?   They play classic horror / sci-fi movies, and the host, "Svengoolie", will make sarcastic remarks before and after commercial breaks.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 01, 2021, 11:38:56 AM
^^^

I've come across that before. Kinda weird!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 01, 2021, 12:49:18 PM
What? No biceps size?

I only know what Time reported.

The costumes they gave him certainly emphasized the taper.

Last night I watched an episode from 1961 that had Brandon de Wilde as the guest star.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 01, 2021, 12:53:42 PM
Jeff, I have MeTV on now.   Have you seen Svengoolie?   They play classic horror / sci-fi movies, and the host, "Svengoolie", will make sarcastic remarks before and after commercial breaks.

I'm aware of Svengoolie but I've never watched his show.
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Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 01, 2021, 01:52:18 PM
I've come across that before. Kinda weird!


I would have to agree with that!
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Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 07, 2021, 11:16:10 AM
The Conners: 5 MIA Roseanne Characters' Absences Explained

By Ryan Schwartz / August 6 2021


Remember when Roseanne and Dan had four children? Or when Jackie was married with a kid of her own?

It’s no secret that The Conners — and before it, the Roseanne revival — have played fast and loose with continuity, specifically when it comes to which characters have been swept under the rug (along with Dan’s death and the family’s Season 9 lottery windfall). Some absences have been explained on screen — one of which had to be addressed due to a legacy cast member’s death — while others have been clarified only in conversation with producers. What follows is a list of those explanations.

To be clear, the following is not a complete inventory of Roseanne characters who haven’t appeared on The Conners. You won’t find out why Leon (Martin Mull) and Nancy (Sandra Bernhard) haven’t paid a visit to the recently reopened Lunch Box, or what ever happened to onetime Wellman Plastics foreman Booker Brooks (whose “resemblance” to George Clooney was addressed in The Conners‘ Season 3 premiere). What we have here is a list of characters whose absences have been directly addressed (or, in the case of one former spouse, indirectly addressed) since Roseanne was first revived by ABC in 2018.

https://tvline.com/lists/the-conners-roseanne-missing-characters-explained/mark-healy/
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Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 07, 2021, 12:06:15 PM
MTV's 40th Anniversary: A Look Back at the Music Video Stars

You could argue that the launch of MTV had as much impact on American culture as the Beatles’ appearance on The Ed Sullivan Show, watched by some 73 million people. But when MTV went live at 12:01 a.m. on Aug. 1, 1981, only some 800,000 households, mostly in smaller cities and towns, had the channel as part of their cable service. And likely, most of those subscribers were sleeping.

But as its opening sequence of a rocket ship taking off suggested, MTV viewership would quickly reach the moon. Soon, this version of radio on TV — music videos played 24 hours a day — became a mainstay of American family rooms, and it was revolutionizing the whole concept of pop music.

MTV forced established acts to think visually or risk disappearing; a song was no longer just a song, to be interpreted by a listener's imagination, but the basis of a micro-movie in which performers would be judged by their hair, dancing, clothes and shooting locale. No surprise that MTV helped popularize a new wave of image-conscious artists (remember the hair on the members of the Thompson Twins?) who eagerly embraced this star-making medium.

https://www.aarp.org/entertainment/television/info-2021/mtv-40th-anniversary.html
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 07, 2021, 08:05:45 PM
Ok, thanks!   I saw Wagon Train and immediately thought of you!

A few days ago I decided to see if I could add Season 6 to collection of Wagon Train episodes on DVD. I found only one listing for Season 6 on eBay, and the seller wanted $249 for it.  :o  I don't want to see it that much.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 07, 2021, 08:09:03 PM
MTV's 40th Anniversary: A Look Back at the Music Video Stars

MTV forced established acts to think visually or risk disappearing; a song was no longer just a song, to be interpreted by a listener's imagination, but the basis of a micro-movie in which performers would be judged by their hair, dancing, clothes and shooting locale. No surprise that MTV helped popularize a new wave of image-conscious artists (remember the hair on the members of the Thompson Twins?) who eagerly embraced this star-making medium.


Well, you know what they say: "Video killed the radio star. ..."
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Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 07, 2021, 08:11:39 PM
Well, you know what they say: "Video killed the radio star. ..."

Which was the very first video they played on MTV.

and after some time,  music became secondary, the network starting playing reality TV Shows.  So much so that actual music videos were barely aired.

As someone said in response to the anniversary:   "Happy 40th anniversary MTV!  Thank you for 15 years of music videos!"
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Post by: killersmom on August 07, 2021, 09:14:18 PM
^^^^^ I LOVE the sarcasm in that response! :laugh:
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Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 07, 2021, 09:16:40 PM
I do too!  I wish I had thought of it!
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Post by: fritzkep on August 07, 2021, 09:21:58 PM
Yeah, fantastic!

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 08, 2021, 03:30:16 PM
As someone said in response to the anniversary:   "Happy 40th anniversary MTV!  Thank you for 15 years of music videos!"

Now they're all on YouTube, aren't they? Or some such platform? Twitter? Instagram?

Perhaps I've written about this before.

The bar where I hang out always has some kind of TV-Music-Video thing playing on the widescreens. A month or so ago, I was in there on a Saturday night. I heard a familiar tune that has a certain resonance for me, Whitney Houston's "Wanna Dance With Somebody," so I looked up at the screen. I thought it was somebody's new recording of the song. As I watched, the thought came to me, "That actually sounds like Whitney Houston." Then I looked closer at the video, and it was Whitney Houston.
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Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 08, 2021, 03:31:26 PM
with her videos, Whitney lives on.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 10, 2021, 06:37:21 AM
So, we have now learned that Markie Post has passed away, and Kristina Applegate has MS.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 20, 2021, 12:12:31 PM

Jeff, are you still watching the TV westerns on Saturdays?
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 20, 2021, 12:24:57 PM

I've been watching episodes of The Untouchables to distract me every night lately. Recently i've seen episodes with half the cast of The Mary Tyler Moore Show: Ed Asner, Gavin McCleod and Cloris Leachman. And in looking them up they all did multiple episodes of that series. Gavin (nice guy Murray) was a real ruthless bastard in the one I watched last night. (Did you guys know Cloris was related to Mabel Albertson?) Asner was in two episodes that guest starred Barbara Stanwyck! He was her assistant.

Another thing I noticed in an episode. There's one of those hour long Lucy-Desi Comedy Hours that guest starred Paul Douglas. In that episode they have a routine with Lucy that concerns a cereal which they call Korny Krinkles. And in the beginning of the episode Little Ricky is tired of eating them because Lucy has bought so many trying to enter a contest or something. Well, to my surprise, in an episode of The Untouchables when Eliot Ness walks into a small store, a market, looking for some information, there on the side wall are several boxes of Korny Krinkles. LOL!

Not surprising as The Untouchables was also a Desilu Production, but quite amusing.

There is also a 1966 episode of The Lucy Show which spoofs The Untouchables (or is an homage) and it guest stars actors from the series, Robert Stack, Bruce Gordon and Steve London and is also narrated by Walter Winchell himself. It is even included on one of the DVD seasons as a bonus feature.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 20, 2021, 12:37:45 PM
--Laugh-In (1977-78)

...was a series of once a month specials when Laugh-In was revived for a time. They did six of them altogether. In the summer of '77 in the first months I was in California I went to a taping session for one of these episodes. However, I did not have a television set for over a year when I was first in California (I read a lot) and so I never actually saw any of these 6 episodes!

Well, someone alerted me in the past few days that the first episode aired with guest star Bette Davis-someone posted it on youtube!

Holy moly and YOWSA!  I've been waiting 44 years to see one of these (preferably all of them)!  Whatever one thinks of it, I was just overjoyed to see it. It's quite of it's time with topics current to 1977. There are two gay men in the cast, Michael Sklar and Wayland Flowers, who, of course, has Madame with him. And also another puppet, a black woman named Jiffy. Which made me wonder if he'd be accused of doing blackface (blackvoice?) nowadays. Anyway, I found most of it quite hilarious, despite the quality which came from an old videotape and who really had videotapes back in 1977-78? Not a lot of people.

Anyway, if you want to see it there's gay content galore. Like a look at Anita Bryant and her crusade, complete with Miami police officers in drag. Disco's on the scene and Jimmy Carter political humor. Bette intones "If you like Bangladesh, you're gonna love Burbank."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FzrHRKXbFM

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 04, 2021, 11:16:32 AM
Joan Fontaine was the guest star in the episode of Wagon Train that aired this morning. The show was from 1963. She did not play a nice character.

Dick Sargent was in the cast, too, in a supporting role.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 05, 2021, 12:05:33 PM
I've noticed over the years that Joan Fontaine did quite a lot of television appearances. One I saw was a guest starring role in an episode of a series called Checkmate. She also did some game shows like Password.

If you search youtube (Joan Fontaine + Password) you'll find several episodes, like this one with her and Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. from March 20, 1967:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU24TZdXmy4
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 23, 2021, 08:12:07 PM
So, I'll admit it, every year I watch Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. When I watched last week, something struck me that I'd never thought of before, even though it was staring me right in the face.

I was actually paying attention to the opening credits when I realized the music being played over the credits was pretty much a medley of the songs in the show, and I suddenly went, "OMG, that's an Overture." This may be something done in a classic form of animation, but it's a musical, just like any other musical. I guess it's pretty dumb of me to think of this only now at my age, but there you have it.

Do parents still sit down with their kids and watch Rudolph? I wonder what kids raised on CGI think of the form of animation used in Rudolph?
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Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 23, 2021, 08:18:47 PM
So, I'll admit it, every year I watch Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. When I watched last week, something struck me that I'd never thought of before, even though it was staring me right in the face.

I was actually paying attention to the opening credits when I realized the music being played over the credits was pretty much a medley of the songs in the show, and I suddenly went, "OMG, that's an Overture." This may be something done in a classic form of animation, but it's a musical, just like any other musical. I guess it's pretty dumb of me to think of this only now at my age, but there you have it.

Do parents still sit down with their kids and watch Rudolph? I wonder what kids raised on CGI think of the form of animation used in Rudolph?


I'm sure there are parents that still sit with their kids and watch  holiday shows.   When I was a kid, it was an event.  Mom would make hot chocolate and pop corn, and we'd all sit in the living room and watch the toons.
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Post by: killersmom on December 23, 2021, 08:44:34 PM
So, I'll admit it, every year I watch Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. When I watched last week, something struck me that I'd never thought of before, even though it was staring me right in the face.

I was actually paying attention to the opening credits when I realized the music being played over the credits was pretty much a medley of the songs in the show, and I suddenly went, "OMG, that's an Overture." This may be something done in a classic form of animation, but it's a musical, just like any other musical. I guess it's pretty dumb of me to think of this only now at my age, but there you have it.

Do parents still sit down with their kids and watch Rudolph? I wonder what kids raised on CGI think of the form of animation used in Rudolph?


All three adults in this house sit down and watch this with the girls. We have since the girls were little. Lilia even recognizes the songs when she hears them elsewhere.  Rick and I also watched with the boys when they were little too!  I was 12 when I first saw it.
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Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 23, 2021, 08:51:57 PM
See, they still watch!!!
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Post by: fritzkep on December 24, 2021, 10:05:46 AM
Yay!

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 08, 2022, 11:16:23 AM
OK, I'm really losing my mind. Seriously.

I was watching this morning's episode of Maverick on MeTV, and in the music in a bar fight scene, I would have sworn I heard a few bars of the main theme from Superman. It can't be. It was repeated twice in the scene.

I hauled out my double LP of the movie score and listened to the main title music. Too bad I couldn't listen to both the record and the music form the scene. I can't remember the title of the episode. They do sound alike, at least to my ears. I watched the closing credits of the episode closely, but I couldn't see any music credits.

Anyway, I think I'll listen to the movie score later today.

The Wagon Train episode was interesting. It was a ghost story titled "Little Girl Lost," from Season 8, broadcast in December 1964. I'd never seen it before. By then hunky Robert Fuller had replaced hunky Robert Horton as the scout.


Edit to add: It seems John Williams did do some composing for TV, including some incidental music for Gilligan's Island!   :laugh: Maybe I'm not crazy after all, but I wouldn't bet on it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Williams (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Williams)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 08, 2022, 12:14:52 PM

I did know about that Gilligan's Island credit and that he composed three Irwin Allen show themes (billed as Johnny Williams) done at 20th Century Fox - Lost in Space, The Time Tunnel and Land of the Giants.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 08, 2022, 03:31:56 PM
I did know about that Gilligan's Island credit and that he composed three Irwin Allen show themes (billed as Johnny Williams) done at 20th Century Fox - Lost in Space, The Time Tunnel and Land of the Giants.

They're all mentioned in the Wikipedia article. I didn't know that Irwin Allen was connected with those TV shows.

Somebody told me he's seen writing credits for Sam Peckinpah on some early Gunsmoke episodes.
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Post by: killersmom on January 09, 2022, 10:01:39 PM
People.com: Bob Saget Dies at 65 | PEOPLE.com.
https://people.com/tv/bob-saget-dead-dies-at-65/
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Post by: fritzkep on January 10, 2022, 08:12:30 AM
And Dwayne Hickman of Dobie Gillis Fame.

Though I remember him first from the Bob Cummings Show.

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 10, 2022, 08:48:50 AM
I forgot about Dwayne Hickman.

So there's the three: Sidney Poitier, Dwayne Hickman, and Bob Saget.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 15, 2022, 12:23:53 PM
This  morning MeTV showed another Bugs Bunny cartoon I'd never seen, and, as once before, I missed the very beginning of it.

In this one Elmer Fudd was running what appeared to be a supper club. One of the patrons ordered fried rabbit (you know who that was supposed to be); the patron was a cartoon Humphrey Bogart, who scared the dickens out of Elmer Fudd. Also making an appearance was a cartoon Carmen Miranda (who performed while Bugs hid in her tutti-fruitti hat). A cartoon Sidney Greenstreet made a brief appearance, and Bugs disguised himself as Groucho Marx--Harpo turned out to be Elmer Fudd. At the very end there was a brief appearance by a cartoon Lauren Bacall, who looked remarkably like the real one.
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Post by: fritzkep on January 15, 2022, 01:53:55 PM
https://vimeo.com/450725678

A really good one!

And Leopold Stokowski wearing a snood is a nice touch.

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 15, 2022, 02:38:01 PM

That particular Bugs Bunny cartoon is an extra feature on my DVD of the film Dark Passage.


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on January 15, 2022, 08:44:56 PM
What a great cartoon. Who was the actor towards the beginning that was served the steak?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on January 15, 2022, 09:32:21 PM
Not sure, he looks familiar.

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 22, 2022, 06:27:46 PM
This morning's episode of Maverick, which I had seen before, had one of the silliest plots ever, involving Maverick with just about every legendary outlaw of the Old West, including Billy the Kid. Billy looked kind of familiar, and well he should. I was able to watch the closing credits, and Billy was Joel Grey.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 23, 2022, 12:07:49 PM

Joel Grey/Billy the Kid? That also seems silly!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 23, 2022, 12:32:27 PM

I was watching an episode of Combat! the other evening and there was a young guest actor in it who was quite appealing and later on I looked him up on IMDB to see what else he might have done. His name was Randy Boone. His very first role was as a regular on a TV series called It's a Man's World that only lasted 19 episodes. It was about guys who went off to college and lived in a houseboat. (!) Ted Bessell was also in it. Boone's biggest roles were being a regular on The Virginian for two years and the year after that a regular on the shorter lived Cimarron Strip TV series.

Interestingly, the day I had watched the Combat! episode and looked him up was his exact 80th birthday! It's weird to look up someone you find appealing and then discover they're 80 years old. But good for Randy!

Jeff, I see that he also was in three episodes of Wagon Train: The Eli Bancroft Story (1963), The Robert Harrison Clarke Story (1963) and The David Garner Story (1963). In the last one he was the title character.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 23, 2022, 06:03:24 PM
Jeff, I see that he also was in three episodes of Wagon Train: The Eli Bancroft Story (1963), The Robert Harrison Clarke Story (1963) and The David Garner Story (1963). In the last one he was the title character.

I remember that name, Randy Boone, though I couldn't say from where. I've not seen any of those Wagon Train episodes.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 29, 2022, 12:40:01 PM
Jeff, I see that he also was in three episodes of Wagon Train: The Eli Bancroft Story (1963), The Robert Harrison Clarke Story (1963) and The David Garner Story (1963). In the last one he was the title character.

"The David Garner Story" was Season 6, episode 33, broadcast May 8, 1963. (Imagine! Season 6 had 37 episodes!) "The Robert Harrison Clarke Story" and "The Eli Bancroft Story" were broadcast in the fall of that year, making them part of Season 7. I've been wondering how many seasons and episodes MeTV has available to broadcast. I've seen some episodes in the Robert Fuller as Cooper Smith and Michael Burns as Barnaby West. I think the latest I've seen is "The Isaiah Quickfox Story" (Season 8, episode 17, Jan. 31, 1965), with Frank DeKova as Isaiah Quickfox.

I guess they've run through what they have available and started back at the beginning, because this morning they showed "The Ruth Owens Story," which was the fourth episode of the show. It was originally broadcast Oct. 9, 1957, and a very young and pretty Shelly Winters was the guest star. A young and cute Dean Stockwell was in the cast, too; I don't remember if he got guest star billing.

It interests me that in those very early episodes, Bill Hawks, played by Terry Wilson (maybe for the run of the show--I haven't checked) first appeared as a traveler on the wagon train, along with a wife named Emily. I guess very shortly somebody made a decision to hire him full time as a supporting character working for Major Adams. I like him and his character.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 31, 2022, 07:07:17 PM
Howard Hesseman, WKRP in Cincinnati and Head of the Class Star, Dead at 81

By Nick Caruso / January 30 2022


Howard Hesseman, WKRP in Cincinnati and Head of the Class Star, Dead at 81
By Nick Caruso / January 30 2022, 10:28 AM PST

 
Howard Hesseman, star of WKRP in Cincinnati and Head of the Class, has died. The actor was 81.

Hesseman died Saturday in Los Angeles due to complications from a colon surgery, his longtime manager Robbie Kass confirmed.

“He was a groundbreaking talent and lifelong friend and client whose kindness and generosity was equaled by his influence and admiration to generations of actors and improvisational comedy throughout the world,” Kass wrote in a statement. “He will be sorely missed and always treasured!”

In 1980 and 1981, Hesseman received two Emmy nominations for his work on CBS’ WKRP in Cincinnati as John Caravella, aka DJ Dr. Johnny Fever. The series ran for four seasons between 1978-82, and made the actor a counterculture icon, thanks to the character’s signature sunglasses, physicality and speaking style.

He reprised his role for the revival series, The New WKRP in Cincinnati, in 1991, and served as director for a couple of episodes two years later.

Hesseman was also widely known for playing schoolteacher Charlie Moore on Head of the Class, which ran for five seasons from 1986-1991. Hesseman left the ABC sitcom in 1990, ahead of the final season.

https://tvline.com/2022/01/30/howard-hesseman-dead-wkrp-in-cincinnati-actor-dies-obituary/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 05, 2022, 11:28:32 AM
When I watch these old TV shows on MeTV, I really enjoy spotting actors whom I know from much later in their careers.

This morning the episode of Wagon Train was "The Mary Halstead Story," Season 1, episode 10, first broadcast Nov. 20 1957. Agnes Moorehead was the guest star--she was Mary Halstead--but his morning I thought I recognized a face among the supporting cast, so I looked at my episode guide, and the face I recognized was Tom Laughlin--the Tom Laughlin--Billy Jack himself.

Apparently he was quite busy in the Fifties: Among other things, he was in Tea and Sympathy (1956) and South Pacific (1958).

(I've never seen Billy Jack or its sequels.)

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0490871/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0 (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0490871/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on February 05, 2022, 11:56:51 AM
I remember seeing Tom Laughlin as a pilot in South Pacific.

I also remember that the theater in New Orleans where I first saw it excised the song You've Got to Be Carefully Taught. This was in the early 60's, in the Civil Rights Era.

The cut was crudely done, and I was shocked, since I was quite familiar with the soundtrack before seeing the movie.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 26, 2022, 07:38:30 PM
This morning I saw another episode of Wagon Train, Season 1, that I'd never seen: "The Sally Potter Story." Martin Milner was in the cast.

I also just noticed that a little boy in the cast was a pre-Rifleman Johnny Crawford.

I have Season 1 on DVD, so I guess I really don't have an excuse for not having seen some of these episodes.  ::)

Of course, Milner always makes me think of Kent McCord. ...  ::)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 01, 2022, 08:56:25 PM
Do these shows air on MeTv?

I know I've seen the names on my guide as I scroll through, but I don't recall what network was airing them.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 02, 2022, 06:48:04 AM
Do these shows air on MeTv?

I know I've seen the names on my guide as I scroll through, but I don't recall what network was airing them.

Yes. Around here, anyway, they air on MeTV.

So do Maverick, The Big Valley, Gunsmoke, and The Rifleman. There may be others, but those are the shows I remember off the top of my head.

MeTV used to air other old Westerns, too. One in particular was Have Gun, Will Travel. Hard to believe, but that show was only a half hour long, yet they told some pretty good stories in that half hour. No doubt it helped that there were a lot fewer commercials than there are now.

I guess The Rifleman was only a half-hour show, too.

There are other nostalgia stations, too (I know of one that also shows Gunsmoke), but I don't think we get them as part of my community's package.

With regards to Gunsmoke, it's interesting to note that Amanda Blake (Miss Kitty) died of AIDS in the early days of the pandemic. She received contaminated blood during surgery before anybody knew about that.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 02, 2022, 04:26:30 PM
Yes. Around here, anyway, they air on MeTV.

Thanks for the confirmation!

With regards to Gunsmoke, it's interesting to note that Amanda Blake (Miss Kitty) died of AIDS in the early days of the pandemic. She received contaminated blood during surgery before anybody knew about that.[/font][/size]

Really?  I don't recall ever hearing that!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on March 08, 2022, 04:12:03 PM
Tim Considine, known for his star turn in the 1959 classic The Shaggy Dog and in the Mickey Mouse Club serial The Adventures of Spin and Marty, passed away on Friday, March 4, 2022, at his home in Mar Vista, California, at the age of 81. The film and television actor was named a Disney Legend, an illustrious honor given to individuals in recognition of their extraordinary contributions to The Walt Disney Company, in 2006

https://d23.com/about-legends/remembering-disney-legend-tim-considine/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Flyboy on March 08, 2022, 04:14:42 PM
His name seems familiar to me. I know I watched The Shaggy Dog as a kid!  :o
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 08, 2022, 04:34:34 PM
Yeah, I remember him, the eldest of the original My Three Sons.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Flyboy on March 08, 2022, 06:03:03 PM
AHHHH!!! That's who he is!! My Three Sons! With Fred MacMurray, right? LORDY!! I can sorta remember being FORCED to watch that in my childhood! haha.......a console B/W TV my parents let us kids watch in the basement, with Rabbit Ears, of course! Nine kids they had.......and liked to keep almost ALL Seven boys in the basement too!! Gee, I wonder why?????? :o
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 08, 2022, 07:53:40 PM
a console B/W TV my parents let us kids watch in the basement, with Rabbit Ears, of course!

Didn't everybody have one of those?  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 08, 2022, 08:49:05 PM
Yup!  We had one too!

The one thing that I remember having (and apparently a lot of people didn't realize this was a 'thing'), we had a early VHS VCR, but the remote was corded, and it stretched from the remote to the VCR, so you always had to prop something heavy by the VCR to loop the cord around, or it could dangle in front of the TV screen.

:laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Flyboy on March 09, 2022, 08:47:07 AM
Yup!  We had one too!

The one thing that I remember having (and apparently a lot of people didn't realize this was a 'thing'), we had a early VHS VCR, but the remote was corded, and it stretched from the remote to the VCR, so you always had to prop something heavy by the VCR to loop the cord around, or it could dangle in front of the TV screen.

:laugh:
HUH???!! :o :o :o
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 09, 2022, 09:02:55 AM
HUH???!! :o :o :o

Yup!  Like this, but ours was smaller.


(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1mFl4H9AAiiXw3etf_rcki2_aQysDVAGvxNkLvXyLCLx-VrFv4ihcZ7rZYKT61Vavnik&usqp=CAU)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 09, 2022, 09:12:40 AM
I remember those early VCR's, they were monstrous and the quality was just not all that great.

Before we had one, I got one for my parents for their 50th wedding anniversary in 1987 (it was smaller and had a wireless remote), and my Mother got the hang of it right away and recorded all of her soap operas every day, so she could go out and do things and not miss a minute of the story line! Not that they didn't keep their viewers well informed, of course.

Earl made them a cassette tape of a number of different recordings of Stella By Starlight, their favorite song, all from his music collection. They appreciated that too.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 09, 2022, 10:13:34 AM
Never heard of a VCR with a "tethered" remote. I got mine in 1984, and the remote was wireless.

It was a Zenith brand VCR from the family electronics dealer, and it was high quality for it's time.

I remember those early VCR's, they were monstrous and the quality was just not all that great.

I guess that depends on how you look at things. I'm not discerning when it comes to images on a TV screen.

That VCR lasted me probably a good dozen years or more, till sometime on the latter end of the mid Nineties. I don't remember if I replaced it because it no longer worked, or just because I wanted a device that played both tapes and DVDs. I know that's what I replaced it with; I wanted something where I could continue to watch my tapes and also new DVDs. That machine didn't last nearly as long as my original VCR. The drawer mechanism ultimately broke and could not be repaired.

As far as it goes, I still have a VCR. I last tried it a few years ago, and it still worked fine. Unfortunately I no longer have a spare TV just to use as a monitor. If I did, I could probably still watch the tapes in my collection; I have them all boxed up but haven't gotten around to taking them to the thrift store. The last time I was in the thrift store (before Covid  :(  ), they still had shelves on shelves of tapes.

Maybe the thing I miss most about that early VCR is that everything was programed by using buttons on the front of the machine--easy as pie, and no trying to fathom arcane instructions for on-screen programing anything.

In the early Sixties my grandparents had a TV set with a tethered remote. You had to be careful not to trip over the cord.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 09, 2022, 11:43:19 AM
I remember seeing a large console home TV/VCR combination in 1973 in a Sears outside Philadelphia. It was astonishing that one could actually record an over-the-air TV program, but the quality was just a little, but noticeably, poorer than the signal from the air.

I can't remember how many thousands of dollars it cost.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 29, 2022, 01:46:11 PM
I do wish MeTV would run Adam-12 at another time instead of our local evening news broadcasts. I'd like to see that again. Maybe Martin Milner did some roles where he wasn't likable, but I've never seen them, and I think we've mentioned before that Kent McCord was quite easy on the eyes.

If you want to see a very young Martin Milner, check out Life With Father (1947, stars William Powell and Irene Dunne). That's a favorite of mine, a very nice little film, entertaining in a gentle kind of way. A young Elizabeth Taylor is in the cast, too.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 29, 2022, 02:06:53 PM
My brother loved Adam-12 when he was a kid, watched it every week.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 29, 2022, 02:40:40 PM
My brother loved Adam-12 when he was a kid, watched it every week.

In our household we watched it, too, and also Dragnet. Back then you could still tell a good story in half an hour, even with commercials--which weren't so many or so long.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 29, 2022, 03:12:48 PM
I wasn't one for police shows, so I didn't watch Adam-12, or Rookies.

We did watch CHiPs, and it seemed to feature a multi-car pile up each week.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 29, 2022, 06:29:47 PM
A friend and I bought the entire series of Adam-12 two years ago. I watched a couple episodes every Saturday night. One thing I liked about watching it is that many times there were scenes filmed in places I knew. Even two episodes that were a couple blocks away from me. Also, there were many character actors in small scenes that were nice to see and remember. We decided to do this because we had been watching some of them on a retro channel and it's so much better without the commercials and they're complete.


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 29, 2022, 07:21:43 PM
A friend and I bought the entire series of Adam-12 two years ago. I watched a couple episodes every Saturday night. One thing I liked about watching it is that many times there were scenes filmed in places I knew. Even two episodes that were a couple blocks away from me. Also, there were many character actors in small scenes that were nice to see and remember. We decided to do this because we had been watching some of them on a retro channel and it's so much better without the commercials and they're complete.

What a neat thing to do! That is so great when you see places that you know.

It's odd, but we seem to mention so many shows that I or my family didn't watch, or maybe watched only a few episodes here and there, and I always wonder why? Were we watching something else instead, and, if so, what?

I know that whatever else aired at 7:30 p.m. on Thursdays from, I guess it was, the fall of 1964 to the spring of 1970 didn't get watched because that was the time slot of Daniel Boone.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 29, 2022, 07:32:39 PM
I remember one of the scenes in the first episode of NCIS New Orleans, one in a cemetery with a view of the Mississippi River bridge in the background, was filmed where my grandparents are buried. It was a surprise and a delight to see that.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 29, 2022, 07:36:54 PM
Jeff, you might be able to make use of this. The listing here does not include prime time, but if you go down to where it says "United States network television schedules", you can click on the desired year and you might find out what you were watching, or not watching, in prime time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_United_States_network_television_schedules

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 30, 2022, 10:49:40 AM
One reason I liked Daniel Boone is: The series is set in the 1770's and 1780's, just before, during, and after the American Revolution.

It's perhaps the ONLY series of any length that was set in those times. Can anyone else think of another? I know there was an extremely short-lived TV series around 1970 called The Young Rebels, but it didn't make it very far. (And as far as I know, never seen again.) Most any TV series that is set in those times fails and there aren't so many movies in those eras either. I've mentioned it before, but there hasn't been a single movie about one person most everyone's at least heard of: Paul Revere. You'd think at least that would've happened. I think Daniel Boone lasted because it was rural centered and so more like a western to people.

I'm not forgetting that AMC recently had the 4 season series Turn: Washington's Spies, which I really liked. I've even thought of buying it on DVD, but the last season is not on DVD. Only streaming. WTF?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 30, 2022, 11:12:24 AM
And Boone was depicted wearing a coonskin cap, like Fess Parker's previous character, something which Boone never wore at all.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 30, 2022, 12:15:24 PM
Jeff, you might be able to make use of this. The listing here does not include prime time, but if you go down to where it says "United States network television schedules", you can click on the desired year and you might find out what you were watching, or not watching, in prime time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_United_States_network_television_schedules

Thanks! I took a very brief look at it while I was at lunch, and it looks very useful However, from what little I've had time to look at it now, it might raise more questions for me than answer them.  :laugh:  (Like, why do I remember watching two different shows that appear to have been on opposite each other?)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 30, 2022, 12:19:10 PM
And Boone was depicted wearing a coonskin cap, like Fess Parker's previous character, something which Boone never wore at all.

Here's the Boone show article from Wikipedia. More later, as I'm supposed to be at work.  ;D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Boone_(1964_TV_series) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Boone_(1964_TV_series))
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 30, 2022, 01:31:16 PM
Here's the Boone show article from Wikipedia. More later, as I'm supposed to be at work.  ;D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Boone_(1964_TV_series) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Boone_(1964_TV_series))

Yes, I remember that show and liked it. Have you been to Boone's birthplace? It's in Exeter township in Berks County, not too far from Philadelphia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Boone_Homestead

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on March 30, 2022, 01:31:59 PM
Thanks! I took a very brief look at it while I was at lunch, and it looks very useful However, from what little I've had time to look at it now, it might raise more questions for me than answer them.  :laugh:  (Like, why do I remember watching two different shows that appear to have been on opposite each other?)

Could have been in different seasons, so you're safe!  ;D

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 30, 2022, 08:00:16 PM
Yes, I remember that show and liked it. Have you been to Boone's birthplace? It's in Exeter township in Berks County, not too far from Philadelphia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Boone_Homestead

Yes. My folks took me there when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 30, 2022, 08:30:01 PM
Thanks! I took a very brief look at it while I was at lunch, and it looks very useful However, from what little I've had time to look at it now, it might raise more questions for me than answer them.  :laugh:  (Like, why do I remember watching two different shows that appear to have been on opposite each other?)

It does raise some questions. There are some shows that I would swear we watched against other shows that I'm sure I remember seeing.

I can give at least one example here of why we weren't watching some shows: We would not have been watching Wild, Wild West because we were watching Tarzan.

Of course, my parents controlled the TV set, and also my bedtime.

But still, that's a great resource. Thanks, Fritz.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 30, 2022, 09:08:41 PM
Here's the Boone show article from Wikipedia. More later, as I'm supposed to be at work.  ;D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Boone_(1964_TV_series) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Boone_(1964_TV_series))

There were two issues of the series on DVD. Of the first issue I only bought only the first two seasons because I consider them the best. Of the second issue I bought the whole series. The Season 1 two-part episode "Cain's Birthday" was also released separately as if it were one movie. That episode at least was inspired by historical fact (a salt-making party from Boonesborough taken prisoner at Blue Licks, followed eventually by a siege of Boonesborough in 1778).

Of course the show was all over the place with no consistent time line. Season 2 had an episode where Aaron Burr was planning to separate the West from the rest of the U.S. (also inspired by an historical event), but then there was another episode where Boone helped ensure the Louisiana Purchase got made. Then there was the episode about the Aztec--least said about that the better. At least one story line from Season 1 was repeated in Season 2 with some details changed.

The "Fort at Cumberland Gap" in the debut episode was the fort from the movie Drums Along the Mohawk. Stock footage of Indians attacking the fort also comes from Drums Along the Mohawk.

The coonskin cap came from Parker wanting to play off his Davy Crockett.

In 2008 Parker authorized a man named Ron Barzso, who manufactured play sets along the lines of the old Marx play sets, to produce a Daniel Boone play set based on the series. The set included the Boone cabin, Cincinnatus's tavern, the blacksmith shop, a small cabin, and a blockhouse. There were "character figures" of Daniel, Rebecca, Israel, and Mingo, and all sorts of accessories, like the bake oven and alarm gong that were outside Cincinnatus's tavern. Later Barzso also issued a separate stockade fort with blockhouses that bore no resemblance to the show's fort set except for the sign that hung over the fort gate in Season 1: "Boonesborough, Kaintuck Territory, 1775."

I wanted to recreate the fort set from the series using the Barzso play set and reproduction Marx stockade sections, but I didn't have a table large enough to do it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 04, 2022, 11:56:16 AM
Last night, having no interest in the Grammy Awards whatsoever, I decided it was time to watch an episode of Wagon Train that I'd been meaning to watch for some time. The episode, "The Colter Craven Story," originally broadcast Nov. 23, 1960, was directed by no less than John Ford, and, in my opinion, served mainly to showcase members of the John Ford Stock Company, actors who appeared repeatedly in Ford's films.

Of course the main character of Wagon Train at the time, Maj. Seth Adams, the wagon master, was Ward Bond, who appeared in 24 Ford pictures. Colter Craven was played by Carleton Young, and his wife was played by Anna Lee. An actress named Mae Marsh was also in the episode. There was a subplot that as far as I could tell was mainly an excuse for John Carradine to appear (also Ken Curtis; as a kid I knew him as Matt Dillon's deputy on Gunsmoke, but he was in 11 Ford movies).

At the end, there was a very brief appearance (I didn't think to time it, but it may have been about 10 seconds) by an actor playing Gen. Sherman. The image on my TV was too dark to see his face (maybe it was supposed to be that way?), but the voice was unmistakable. He was billed in the closing credits as Michael Morrison--it was John Wayne himself.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 04, 2022, 03:38:18 PM
I didn't watch the Grammy Awards either.  It seems like each year I know less and less people nominated.

:laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 17, 2022, 08:20:09 PM
I saw an interesting Bugs Bunny cartoon on MeTV yesterday morning. It was a takeoff of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, with the pods being giant carrots. As the pods were being blasted back into space, there was a brief glimpse of Eliot and E.T. bicycling past the moon.

They also showed a cartoon with Speedy Gonzales, and I thought, Oh, the stereotypes. ...
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 30, 2022, 10:04:42 AM
The Wagon Train episode that MeTV ran this morning was "The Elizabeth McQueeny Story," my favorite of the three episodes Bette Davis made for the show. I never get tired of this one.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 07, 2022, 06:24:57 PM
Saw Elizabeth Montgomery on this morning's episode of Wagon Train. It wasn't a very good episode. Later I happened to catch a few minutes of a Big Valley episode--with Anne Baxter as the guest star.

We never watched The Big Valley, and I think maybe I've only ever seen one complete episode, but even with only that you can tell the facade of the Barkley mansion is the facade of ... Tara.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 07, 2022, 06:32:17 PM
I never watched The Big Valley until it was in daily syndication on a San Antonio station when I was stationed there in 1971-72. At the time my final assignment was on the staff of a Medic training company (they had to send me somewhere since all my training in Vietnamese language and military intelligence was for naught because as a draftee I didn't have the year in service necessary to be able to be sent to Nam), and afternoons were not particularly busy, so we watched a lot of TV in the office until quitting time,

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 08, 2022, 01:37:47 PM
Jeff, I didn't know Elizabeth Montgomery had been in an episode of Wagon Train!

About The Big Valley mansion, some have mentioned online they think it was the mansion used in GWTW. It might resemble it, but according to the book about the 40 Acres backlot I read a couple years ago, the Tara mansion was in a severe state of deterioration by 1959 when it was dismantled, so it couldn't be the actual mansion in The Big Valley.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 08, 2022, 03:02:35 PM
I was watching the first episode on YouTube, which I don't think I had ever seen, and the house does bear quite a resemblance to the 1939 Tara.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2022, 07:11:14 PM
I was watching the first episode on YouTube, which I don't think I had ever seen, and the house does bear quite a resemblance to the 1939 Tara.

As best as I could tell, the front door of the Barkley mansion was not centered between the columns. Neither was the front door of Tara. I've always thought that was weird about Tara, but I'm pretty sure there are two windows to the left of the door and one to the right. I'm pretty sure the door is actually behind, or partially behind, one of the columns. Of course I could be wrong.

This certainly proves nothing about the Barkley mansion, but if you scroll down to the Filming section, there are two interesting GWTW connections.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Valley (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Valley)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 15, 2022, 03:37:51 PM
Last night I watched a Wagon Train episode first broadcast Oct. 22, 1958, "The Tobias Jones" story. Tobias Jones was played by none other than Lou Costello. Also in the cast were Peter Breck and Harry Von Zell. I should watch again to verify, but when I was watching the credits I thought I saw that Von Zell actually got writing credit for the episode.

Lou Costello was good, but the episode's ending was weak.

Harry Von Zell:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0903266/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0903266/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 11, 2022, 03:03:47 PM

Jeff,

Are you familiar with an episode of "Gunsmoke" with Betty Hutton as guest star titled "The Bad Lady From Brookline," from 1965?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 11, 2022, 06:39:19 PM
Jeff,

Are you familiar with an episode of "Gunsmoke" with Betty Hutton as guest star titled "The Bad Lady From Brookline," from 1965?

Wow! Betty Hutton on Gunsmoke? No, I didn't know about that.

Actually, I know very little of Gunsmoke. We/I didn't watch it until it's later seasons, toward the end, when it was on, I believe, Monday nights. I don't watch it now because MeTV runs it in the middle of Saturday afternoons.

Actually, the last time I visited my father, I did see an episode. I hadn't known that Dennis Weaver was still on the show when it had begun to be broadcast in color. Weaver always seemed like a likable person to me. I liked him in McCloud.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 12, 2022, 11:55:22 AM


Actually, I know very little of Gunsmoke. We/I didn't watch it until it's later seasons, when it was on, I believe, Monday nights.

WHAT?  :o   You weren't watching Laugh-In!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 12, 2022, 04:53:38 PM
Well, based on a quick and cursory search, Laugh-In ended in 1973 and Gunsmoke in 1975, so they're not mutually exclusive. I'm not 100% sure about Monday nights. That's based on memory. I haven't taken the time to search for their respective broadcast histories--as in what nights of the week they ran.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 28, 2022, 08:50:40 AM
So when does a TV show become "classic"? One evening a week or so ago, when there was "nothing to watch" (not even a Phillies game), I caught an episode of L&O: SVU on USA. I don't know when this particular episode was originally broadcast, but it surprised me because I hadn't realized that by now Kelli Giddish (Amanda Rollins) has been on the show long enough that she "overlapped" Danny Pino (Nick Amaro). At the end of this particular episode, Rollins tells Benson that she is pregnant but the child is not Nick's.

It seems odd to me, but after this episode, they jumped to one where Sonny Carisi (Peter Scanavino) described himself as "new" to the SVU, but his character seemed sufficiently established as part of the team that it certainly wasn't his first episode.

(I so had the hots for Danny Pino. He was just my type. ...  :D )
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 08, 2022, 02:30:25 PM
Cpl. Randolph ("Who says I'm dumb?") Agarn of F Troop--Larry Storch--has passed away at age 99.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Flyboy on July 08, 2022, 06:17:54 PM
I read that notice today...........WOW!! Brings back memories of that time on TV!! May he rest in Peace now!  ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on July 26, 2022, 10:54:23 AM
Tony Dow, 'Leave it to Beaver' star, dead at 77

Tony Dow, an actor and director best known for his role as "The Beaver's" older brother Wally Cleaver on "Leave It to Beaver," died Tuesday, according to his agent. He was 77.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/26/entertainment/tony-dow-obit/index.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 27, 2022, 03:01:15 PM

This was printed in The New York Times, a guest article by Norman Lear, but this link has the article you can read without a subscription:

On My 100th Birthday, Reflections on Archie Bunker and Donald Trump
https://www.akilligundem.com/on-my-100th-birthday-reflections-on-archie-bunker-and-donald-trump/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 31, 2022, 11:35:13 AM
George Jetson Will Be Born (Today!) Sunday July 31, 2022, According to Hanna-Barbera Show’s Lore

(https://images.moneycontrol.com/static-mcnews/2022/07/Collage-Maker-31-Jul-2022-12.26-PM-770x435.jpg)

If there was any doubt that the future is here (for better or worse), just remember that you are now living in George Jetson’s lifetime. Animation fans are celebrating an important milestone this weekend, as several savvy Twitter users noticed that the Spacely Sprockets employee, husband to Jane, and father of June and Elroy, is said to be born on July 31, 2022. That still gives us 40 years before the events of the show begin, so there’s no need to wonder why there are no flying cars yet.

https://www.indiewire.com/2022/07/george-jetson-will-be-born-sunday-july-31-2022-1234746724/

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on July 31, 2022, 12:29:45 PM
That made it onto NPR Morning Edition Sunday too!

Sheesh, 2022 seemed unimaginably in the far off future when the show was on.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on July 31, 2022, 12:32:07 PM
At least we've got quite a few years to go before Captain Kirk's birth in Riverside IA.

(https://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/images/ia/IARIVtrekbirth_ks06_620x300.jpg)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 31, 2022, 01:48:15 PM
If there was any doubt that the future is here (for better or worse), just remember that you are now living in George Jetson’s lifetime. Animation fans are celebrating an important milestone this weekend, as several savvy Twitter users noticed that the Spacely Sprockets employee, husband to Jane, and father of June and Elroy, is said to be born on July 31, 2022. That still gives us 40 years before the events of the show begin, so there’s no need to wonder why there are no flying cars yet.

https://www.indiewire.com/2022/07/george-jetson-will-be-born-sunday-july-31-2022-1234746724/

Sorry, it's Judy.

Remember the theme song:

Meet George Jetson!
Jane, his wife!
His daughter Judy!
His boy Elroy!

I forget the rest of it.  ::)

And remember who "voiced' Jane? If I remember correctly, it was Penny Singleton, Blondie in the movies.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 31, 2022, 02:37:30 PM
Yes, Penny Singleton was the voice of Jane Jetson.

and Jean Vander Pyl voiced Mrs. Spacely and Rosie the Robot.  She was best known as the voice of Wilma Flintstone.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 31, 2022, 07:53:10 PM
Jean Vander Pyl voiced Mrs. Spacely and Rosie the Robot.  She was best known as the voice of Wilma Flintstone.

And the first voice of Betty Rubble was Bea Benaderet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bea_Benaderet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bea_Benaderet)

 
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on August 01, 2022, 12:51:20 AM
Happy Birthday, George Jetson!!! :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on August 01, 2022, 12:54:57 AM
Sorry, it's Judy.

Remember the theme song:

Meet George Jetson!
Jane, his wife!
His daughter Judy!
His boy Elroy!

I forget the rest of it.  ::)

And remember who "voiced' Jane? If I remember correctly, it was Penny Singleton, Blondie in the movies.


https://youtu.be/tTq6Tofmo7E
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on August 01, 2022, 01:02:54 AM
The Jetsons meet the Flintstones!

https://youtu.be/AtkGaFKs2rY
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 01, 2022, 06:20:04 AM
Sorry, it's Judy.

Remember the theme song:

Meet George Jetson!
Jane, his wife!
His daughter Judy!
His boy Elroy!

I forget the rest of it.  ::)

They showed the opening sequence on the Today show this morning. I got the order of the family mixed up.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 01, 2022, 11:25:58 AM

Jeff, that correction you made about June/Jane, I had copied that from the article. How did they get that wrong! I didn't notice. I love The Jetsons and I recall even watching it on Sunday nights when it first appeared! (In b&w, no color TV for me back then!)

Last year they put out a Blu-Ray of The Jetsons and it looks spectacular. Especially when I just looked at the opening credits from the youtube link Linda provided. The Blu-Ray is just beautiful looking, the colors pop, the opening theme sounds fantastic etc.

My favorite episode is titled A Date with Jet Screamer. LOL! In that episode in one scene George Jetson relaxes with a cigarette and a martini! Is that how it all began for me?  ;D  I love martini's!  (But never ever smoked!)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 01, 2022, 11:27:05 AM
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hwIaA-s2Ans/WEQQm8LdVkI/AAAAAAABFrs/OLWEtKkDQZoSeVyJuGADgmVikaSehw4FQCLcB/s1600/JET%2B22.png)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 01, 2022, 06:51:13 PM
Of course, on a sadder Classic TV note, Nichelle Nichols has died.

I wonder if William Shatner has made a public statement? I haven't heard anything.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 01, 2022, 07:17:52 PM
Of course, on a sadder Classic TV note, Nichelle Nichols has died.

I wonder if William Shatner has made a public statement? I haven't heard anything.

Yes, he did.  This was from his Twitter feed.


I am so sorry to hear about the passing of Nichelle. She was a beautiful woman & played an admirable character that did so much for redefining social issues both here in the US & throughout the world. I will certainly miss her. Sending my love and condolences to her family. Bill

https://www.cbr.com/star-trek-william-shatner-eulogizes-nichelle-nichols/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 21, 2022, 06:40:12 PM
On September 16, it is half a century since The Bob Newhart Show premiered.

I've been staying at my dad's, and his Sunday newspaper still includes Parade magazine (a shadow of what it used to be). Today's issue is almost entirely devoted to Bob Newhart (he's 92, the same age as my dad). Lots of interesting things about his career. I didn't realize that Newhart actually lasted two seasons longer (1982--90) than The Bob Newhart Show (1972--80).

Jim Parsons offers a very sweet recollection. The first time Newhart guested on The Big Bang Theory, as soon as he appeared, the taping came to a complete halt because the studio audience gave Newhart a standing ovation.

It's funny. I know I saw the famous finale of Newhart, but I don't remember if I saw the scene actually watching the final episode, or if I just saw the scene sometime afterward.

(I suppose everybody knows the connection between the shows, aside from Newhart himself. Suzanne Pleshette [The Bob Newhart Show] was married to Tom Poston [Newhart].)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on August 21, 2022, 07:01:47 PM
So true about Parade. We get it in the Washington Post too.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 21, 2022, 07:14:47 PM
Parade magazine!  I remember reading that each Sunday!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 22, 2022, 12:52:06 PM
On September 16, it is half a century since The Bob Newhart Show premiered.

Yikes!

The year I arrived in Los Angeles, I went to see a taping of The Bob Newhart Show at the CBS Television Center on Radford Ave., not far from where I lived in Studio City; before television it was the studios of Republic Pictures. I believe it was in August of 1977 on a hot summer evening. I went to a lot of TV show tapings when I first moved here. This might have been the first time I'd been to this facility. If I'd come out a year earlier I would've gone to see a Mary Tyler Moore Show taping, which had ended in the spring of 1977.

All of MTM's sitcoms were filmed, not taped (videotaped) and I learned that attending the taping of a filmed series was different than attending videotaped series, like all Norman Lear shows were. Videotaped sitcoms all had two taping sessions. One would be around 5pm and another at 8pm, with separate audiences for each one. The first taping was considered a dress rehearsal taping and the second one the actual taping, although on occasion if the dress taping was better, which happened, they'd use that one. Of course, they also could edit some of each one into the other if they wanted to. A filmed sitcom was somewhat different. They only did one sitting and would go back and do a scene if they weren't happy with it. It required some time between scenes, too, for loading film into the cameras, or shooting inserts or close-ups. Sometimes they would do that after the audience left. During that time, some of the shows had a small combo of musicians who'd play for you. Or, a host or comedian of sorts would chat with the audience. Each production company might do different things.

Some things learned "before" this episode filming began was that Dick Martin (of Rowan & Martin) was directing the episode we were going to see. Another thing pointed out to us was that in this season 6 episode (the last season) in the first episode of Season 6 (not aired yet, but completed) the Newharts moved into a different apartment. Remember that? Mary Tyler Moore did that during her show, too, if you recall.

It's funny. I know I saw the famous finale of Newhart, but I don't remember if I saw the scene actually watching the final episode, or if I just saw the scene sometime afterward.

This makes me wonder, Jeff, was that famous last scene of Newhart, which took place in The Bob Newhart Show bedroom, the final season bedroom set, or the 1-5 season bedroom set that most people would remember?

In any case, I recall the taping of the episode I saw to be quite enjoyable. I was always a fan of Suzanne Pleshette from my littlest days seeing her in movies like "40 Pounds of Trouble" with Tony Curtis and many of her television series. She was always a great guest on Johnny Carson, too, so it was a treat to see this! She was also from my neck of the woods in New York State, too: Syracuse, New York.

(I suppose everybody knows the connection between the shows, aside from Newhart himself. Suzanne Pleshette [The Bob Newhart Show] was married to Tom Poston [Newhart].)

On a shopping trip one Saturday to the Von's Grocery Store in West Hollywood, I saw both Suzanne Pleshette and Tom Poston doing their own bit of grocery shopping. For anyone who might know the reference, I really wanted to walk by Tom Poston and say "Zotz!"

Somehow I just never thought Tom Poston would be Suzanne Pleshette's choice for a husband. They lived together in an apartment building on, or right off, the Sunset Strip. I found that out one night on the news when there'd been a fire in the building and Suzanne was interviewed on the news program.

The episode I saw filmed was The Bob Newhart Show | Episode 126 - Season 6, Episode 6, titled: A Day in the Life | Aired: October 29, 1977.

What I remember being the most amusing element of the series was that in the episode, Bob's therapy client was an entire family. (We were told the 4 people were actually a family, too!) Perpetual Newhart client "Carlin" finds this odd and wants to sit in on the session.

 ;D  :D  ;D   I found a youtube scene from this episode!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsyCLmQGViQ

(Can you hear me laughing? :laugh:)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 22, 2022, 01:27:11 PM
P.S.: As I mentioned, when I first moved here I went to a lot of tapings of TV series, but for a year after moving here I did not have a TV set, so I did not see the episodes I attended when they first aired. When I did get one it was b&w.

Since it's the classic TV thread I'll try to remember some shows I saw taped, some of them more than once, back in those late 70's:

The Bob Newhart Show, The Betty White Show, Another Day, Three's Company, Apple Pie, The Tonight Show, The Match Game, The Hollywood Squares, CPO Sharkey, 100 to 1, The Harvey Korman Show, The McClean Stevenson Show, Redd Foxx (variety show), What's Happening, The Jeffersons, George Burns Special, Laugh-In '77, Mary (Mary Tyler Moore variety series, the one I saw taped never aired), The Gong Show, Carter Country, All in the Family and The Carol Burnett Show.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 22, 2022, 08:17:32 PM
This makes me wonder, Jeff, was that famous last scene of Newhart, which took place in The Bob Newhart Show bedroom, the final season bedroom set, or the 1-5 season bedroom set that most people would remember?

I can't say. I don't even remember the Hartleys moving to a new apartment. I imagine it was the earlier bedroom.

I never "got" Suzanne Pleshette and Tom Poston. I always liked her. The first thing I ever saw her in was the Disney pic The Ugly Dachshund, with Dean Jones and a Great Dane. She was also in a Western, A Distant Trumpet, with Troy Donahue (I've got that on DVD but I haven't yet got around to watching it).
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 23, 2022, 11:21:59 AM
^^^ Yes, and she was married to Troy Donahue, too. (Married and divorced the same year.)


These are both magazine covers from 1961:

(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/06/87/c5/0687c5a7600776b6d987ac984ac41da1--movie-magazine-classic-movies.jpg) (https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ny4AAOSwfv1gqcdB/s-l500.jpg)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 23, 2022, 01:31:19 PM
^^^ Yes, and she was married to Troy Donahue, too. (Married and divorced the same year.)


These are both magazine covers from 1961:

(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/06/87/c5/0687c5a7600776b6d987ac984ac41da1--movie-magazine-classic-movies.jpg)

I forgot about that marriage. He and Tab Hunter were really both a little bit before my time (by which I mean I was just a little kid in the early Sixties), but from what I've seen of them both, I always liked Troy Donahue better (which is probably why I seem to have trouble remembering Tab Hunter's name  :">  ).

I'd like to see Palm Springs Weekend again some day.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on October 11, 2022, 02:24:38 PM
Angela Lansbury, 'Murder She Wrote' star, dies at 96

The actress was perhaps best known for playing dauntless mystery novelist Jessica Fletcher on CBS' Murder, She Wrote.

https://people.com/movies/angela-lansbury-dead-at-96/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on October 11, 2022, 06:03:02 PM
Really liked her, on Broadway (did get to see her in Sweeney Todd) as well as her movies (whenever I embark on a train trip I love to watch the Atchison Topeka and Santa Fe sequence from The Harvey Girls) and of course Murder She Wrote.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on October 11, 2022, 07:30:38 PM
She has always been one of my favorite actresses!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 14, 2022, 11:10:19 PM
She has always been one of my favorite actresses!

Yes, indeed. I would not mind seeing some of those early seasons of Murder She Wrote again.

I'm afraid I used to joke that you didn't want Jessica Fletcher to come visit you, because if she did, you know you'd be accused of murder.

That was one of those shows where you could see interesting guest stars either before or after the height of their careers. Some years ago I happened to catch an episode on one of the nostalgia channels. A younger Brian Cranston played a tennis pro.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on October 15, 2022, 04:40:15 AM
Jeff, not sure if you have any if the Hallmark channels but they show Murder She Wrote every night on the Hallmark Drama channel after the movies are done for the day. They are pretty late though. They start at 9 pm here, Mountain Time.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on October 15, 2022, 07:07:08 AM
I saw a meme online about a year ago with the Jessica Fletcher character that made me laugh out loud.


She was always so focused on solving the crimes, so whoever made this meme used a shot of Jessica sitting at her typewriter, on the phone, looking happy / excited.  The text under the image says, "Who's dead?"

:laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 16, 2022, 12:31:10 PM
Jeff, not sure if you have any if the Hallmark channels but they show Murder She Wrote every night on the Hallmark Drama channel after the movies are done for the day. They are pretty late though. They start at 9 pm here, Mountain Time.

Thanks. I believe I do get it, but if so, they must be on way late here in Eastern Time.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: michaelflanagansf on October 26, 2022, 11:28:04 AM
Matthew Perry introduces a new way to watch "Friends." You can probably make a drinking game out of it, but you might gain weight:

https://pagesix.com/2022/10/26/matthew-perry-how-to-tell-which-drugs-i-used-during-friends/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: michaelflanagansf on November 11, 2022, 12:33:54 PM
That time when Angie Bowie tried to be Wonder Woman:

https://dangerousminds.net/comments/that_time_when_david_bowies_ex-wife_tried_to_become_a_tv_superhero
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 12, 2022, 10:15:18 PM
I've been meaning to mention, a week ago MeTV showed the fifth-from-last episode of Wagon Train. There was a young fellow in the cast who looked awfully familiar, but I couldn't place him. Then I was able to catch his name in the credits, and no wonder he looked familiar: He was Jody McCrea, and he was reminding me very much of his famous father, Joel McCrae.

Joel McCrea was a handsome man. He could do Westerns, but he could also do light comedy; if you've never seen it, I recommend the movie The Palm Beach Story, with McCrea, Claudette Colbert, Mary Astor, and Rudy Vallee.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 17, 2022, 09:26:36 AM
Corporal Lebeau has died.

Robert Clary, Corporal Lebeau of Hogan's Heroes, has passed away at age 96.

This I did not know: He was a Holocaust survivor. His family was taken to Auschwitz, and his parents were killed the day they arrived.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 17, 2022, 11:30:10 AM
(http://i0.wp.com/www.martinturnbull.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/cafe-gala-dorothy-dandridge.png)

Robert Clary was also a cabaret singer. He performed at Café Gala on the Sunset Strip. It was known as "One of the quieter nightspots on the strip," and probably because that was a gay establishment and didn't want any extra attention. It was popular in the '40s and '50s, favorited by many Hollywood luminaries, many from MGM like Greta Garbo and Judy Garland. The Jewish patrons from MGM referred to it as Cafageleh! LOL!

Probably because it was perched on a sloping hillside and was originally built as a house, I have never seen ANY photos of this place. I have seen one photo of a couple stating it was taken there (but you'd never know where the photo was taken) and on a color travelogue film from the '40s I saw on youtube, which has a montage of neon signs from Sunset Strip establishments, there is one close-up of the Café Gala sign.

(https://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p228/Mooskanate/NLA/Cafe%20Gala.png)

I am pretty sure the bottom right number that you see "87.9" is the address for the club which is for 8795 Sunset Blvd. although I don't know why there's a dot in it. In the '80s-'90s this was the location of Spago's.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 18, 2022, 06:51:46 AM
Robert Clary was also a cabaret singer.

Quite a career, quite a life. RIP.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 05, 2022, 10:35:21 PM
Kirstie Alley, 'Cheers' and 'Veronica's Closet' star, dead at 71

CNN)Actress Kirstie Alley, star of the big and small screens known for her Emmy-winning role on "Cheers" and films like "Look Who's Talking," has died after a brief battle with cancer, her children True and Lillie Parker announced on her social media.

She was 71.

We are sad to inform you that our incredible, fierce and loving mother has passed away after a battle with cancer, only recently discovered," the statement read.


https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/05/entertainment/kirstie-alley-obit/index.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 06, 2022, 06:29:54 AM
Kirstie Alley, 'Cheers' and 'Veronica's Closet' star, dead at 71

I heard that this morning. Sad news.

I remember "Veronica's Closet." I didn't remember it lasted that long.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 21, 2022, 12:16:29 PM
I was watching some Christmas episodes of The Adventures of Ozzie & Harriet. I vaguely remember that show in the mid-'60s at the tail end of its run. It was on for 14 years! 435 episodes. This year, after a lot of work on it the entire series is starting to be released on DVD! All the episodes! There's a single release of the Christmas episodes.

There must be a market for this show for them to be releasing 14 years worth of the series! I don't recall caring that much about it when I saw it here and there in the mid-60's. The episodes I've seen are all concerned with the mundanest of plots. The cast, to be sure, is appealing and there is humor derived from these plots. There's a forum I visit -- HTF, Home Theater Forum, and in the TV Shows on DVD section, I've looked at the posts concerning this show and fans of it are just in ecstasy that they're being released on DVD and they relish this which I admire as we all have shows like that we love. Maybe they grew up with this series or something, but I just don't see it. Frankly, I do admit I've never been a fan of these family oriented series like this one, The Donna Reed Show, Father Knows Best and the like. I did like Leave It to Beaver well enough. I gravitated more to shows that had some gimmicky nature to the series or, actually, the shows with adults and their problems.

I guess I'm using the term white bread, defined as "blandly conventional in a way that is regarded as characteristic of the white middle classes." That's the Ozzie & Harriet Show in a nutshell! There's no denying that as Ricky Nelson grew up he became more and more sexy. And they (or he) didn't shy away from that smoldering quality emanating from the TV set, that's for sure.

I actually bought this Christmas Episode DVD of the show to see if I might want to try watching the series from the beginning. There's a dozen Christmas episodes on it and one additional episode plus a special "An Ozzie & Harriet Christmas" aired in 1984. It appears to have been a local Los Angeles production from KTLA Ch. 5, but it may also have been syndicated that year. There's also an array of the Nelsons doing Christmas Commercials for products, like Coca-Cola and Kodak film & cameras. They seemed to think around 1960-62 anyone could buy a movie camera and film for $79.95. (I don't think my parents spent that much on gifts for me and my sister back then!

Anyhoo, I'm inclined to think I wouldn't want to delve into this 14 year series with 435 episodes, much more than I have already! How did they do that many? That is an average of 31.07 episodes per year! Plus doing commercials, music etc.  O&H was a radio show before it came to TV, plus a movie "Here Come the Nelsons." It's interesting in that the 14 seasons it was on TV, it only got into the Top 30 TV programs once. In 1962-1963 is was rated #29.

Anyone else watch this show when it aired, or reruns, or anything?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 21, 2022, 12:21:43 PM

P.S.: The show was titled The Adventures of Ozzie & Harriet.

Definition of...

--adventure
an unusual and exciting, typically hazardous, experience or activity.
--adventures
engage in hazardous and exciting activity, especially the exploration of unknown territory.

I'm thinking it was on so long because they never actually got to having an adventure or adventures...  :laugh:

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 21, 2022, 12:27:14 PM
I came across a series of DVD releases under this banner: TV Guide Spotlight. Each release contains episodes from different shows under a different theme or genre. Like this one...

TV Guide Spotlight: TV's Merriest Holiday Episodes
It contains these episodes:

Bewitched - "A Vision of Sugar Plums"
The Flying Nun - "Wailing in a Winter Wonderland"
The Partridge Family - "Don't Bring Your Guns To Town, Santa"
Roseanne - "Santa Claus"
The Cosby Show - "Clair's Place"
Married With Children - "You Better Watch Out"
3rd Rock From the Sun - "Jolly Old St. Dick"
The Ellen Show - "Ellen's First Christmess"
Just Shoot Me - "Jesus, It's Christmas"
The Nanny - "Christmas Episode"
Newsradio - "Christmas Story"
That '70s Show - "The Best Christmas Ever"
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 21, 2022, 12:37:01 PM
Here's another:

TV Guide Spotlight: TV's Spookiest Halloween Episodes

BEWITCHED - A Safe and Sane Halloween
I DREAM OF JEANNIE - My Master, the Ghost Breaker
THE JEFFERSONS - Now You See It, Now You Don t Part 1 and 2
SQUARE PEGS - Halloween XII
THE FACTS OF LIFE - The Halloween Show
MARRIED...WITH CHILDREN - Take My Wife, Please
ROSEANNE - Boo!
THE COSBY SHOW - Halloween
NEWSRADIO - Halloween
MAD ABOUT YOU - The Unplanned Child
3RD ROCK FROM THE SUN - Scaredy Dick
NED AND STACEY - Halloween Story
THAT 70S SHOW - Halloween

There's at least twenty of these collections and I think it's a great idea. Especially to sample some episodes of shows one didn't watch or just to watch some different assorted things. Some shows I don't even think are released on DVD except for these collections, like Ned & Stacey or Square Pegs, perhaps.

Maybe I'll post some more off and on, like the western episodes one, for you, Jeff!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on December 21, 2022, 12:45:32 PM
One of the mysteries of Ozzie and Harriet was guessing what Ozzie did for a living. Most of the other TV fathers were involved in some sort of business, but Ozzie was always around the house without any indication of what he did outside, if anything.

In real life before radio and TV he was a bandleader, but in the series there's no indication of him doing any such thing.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 21, 2022, 12:48:28 PM
^^^

So true, Fritz! What the heck does he do? If you read the credits for the show, though, he apparently did everything! Produced, wrote, acted, directed them sometimes. Even this credit: Copyright Ozzie Nelson.
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Speaking of Christmas episodes, I did buy a compilation Christmas episode DVD this year. It wasn't one of these TV Guide collections, though. It was called "Classic Christmas TV Collection." I think the theme was that Warner Bros. had the rights to whatever is on the release.

Eight Is Enough: "Yes, Nicholas, There is a Santa Claus Part 1 & Part 2" 1977
Suddenly Susan: "The Walk-Out" 1996
CHiP's: "A Christmas Watch" 1979
Alice: "A Semi-Merry Christmas" 1977
Mama's Family: "Mama Gets Goosed" 1989
Dr. Kildare: "An Exchange of Gifts" 1964
Courtship of Eddie's Father: "Gifts are for Giving" 1971
Perfect Strangers: "The Gift of the Mypiot" 1989
Welcome Back Kotter: "A Sweathog Christmas" 1977
Veronica's Closet: "Veronica's Christmas Song" 1997

Episodes from the '60s - '70s - '80s - '90s! A person commenting on this release on line said they didn't think the two '90s episodes should have been included because that's too recent. And I thought, what? The latest episode from 1997 is 25 years ago! Hard to believe though that may be. Titanic came out 25 years ago!  :o
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 21, 2022, 08:49:57 PM
I vaguely remember "The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet."  Ricky was hot. Check him out in the movie Rio Bravo.

(I seem to recall that Ozzie and Harriet were allowed to sleep in the same bed because they were actually married--unlike, say, Rob and Laura Petrie. I guess the Ricardos slept in the same bed, didn't they?)

The second season of "Daniel Boone" had a Christmas episode. (A young Native American couple take refuge in Boonesborough in a snowstorm. There is "no room at the inn," so they're given a makeshift shelter created out of the blacksmith shop. where the woman gives birth.)

"Wagon Train" had two Christmas-themed episodes that I know of one. On involved giving Christmas to a dying little girl. The guest star of that episode was Patty McCormack, who played a bratty orphan who befriends the dying girl.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 22, 2022, 10:49:24 AM

In all of the Ozzie & Harriet episodes I've seen so far, Ozzie & Harriet never go near a bedroom.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 22, 2022, 10:57:02 AM
--TV Guide Spotlight: TV's Greatest Westerns

Bonanza - "Showdown"
The Lone Ranger - "Enter The Lone Ranger" | "The Lone Ranger Fights On" | "The Lone Ranger's Triumph"
The Rifleman - "Day of the Hunter" | "Outlaw's Inheritance"
Bat Masterson - "Stampede at Tent City" | "The Fighter"
Wagon Train - "Alias Bill Hawks" | "The Malachi Hobart Story"
The Roy Rogers Show - "Badman's Brother" | "Ghost Town Gold"
Annie Oakley - "Annie Gets Her Man" | "Bulls Eye"
The Deputy - "Hard Decision" | "The Return of Widow Brown"
Judge Roy Bean - "Checkmate" | "Spirit of the Law"
The Cisco Kid - "Counterfeit Money" | "Vigilante Story"

I have never heard of the TV shows The Deputy or Judge Roy Bean, though I did watch The Life & Times of Judge Roy Bean movie from the the '70s recently. Had never seen it before.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 22, 2022, 11:00:42 AM
--TV Guide Spotlight - Cop Shows of the '70s

CHARLIE'S ANGELS - "Pilot" / "Angels in Chains"
STARSKY & HUTCH - "Pilot" / "The Fix"
POLICE WOMAN - "The End Game" / "Nothing Left to Lose"
THE ROOKIES - "Concrete Valley, Neon Sky" / "The Good Cry Young"
S.W.A.T. - "The Killing Ground" / "The Steel-Plated Security Blanket"


Charlie's Angels were cops?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 22, 2022, 11:02:43 AM

--TV Guide Spotlight - Totally '80s Toons

Care Bears (3 episodes)
The Get Along Gang (3 episodes)
The Littles (3 episodes)
Dennis the Menace (3 episodes)
Heathcliff (3 episodes)
Little Clowns of Happy Town (3 episodes)
Nellie the Elephant (4 episodes)
_________________________________________________________________________

--TV Guide Spotlight - Super Action Animation $6.00

Jayce and The Wheeled Warriors (3 episodes)
Street Sharks (3 episodes)
C.O.P.S. (3 episodes)
Liberty's Kids (3 episodes)
Where on Earth is Carmen San Diego (3 episodes)
Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd Century (3 episodes)
Pole Position - (2 episodes)

I thought Pole Position was a porno film.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 22, 2022, 11:06:12 AM
--TV Guide Spotlight: Very Special Episodes

--Maude - "Maude's Dilemma - Part 1 & 2"
Maude is pregnant and considers abortion.

--Good Times - "J.J. in Trouble"
J.J. might have given his ex-girlfriend a sexually-transmitted disease.

--The Jeffersons - "Lionel's Problem"
Lionel comes home from graduation intoxicated.

--What's Happening? - "Doobie or Not Doobie - Part 1 & 2"
Rerun, Roger, and Dwayne are forced to bootleg a Doobie Brothers concert.

--Diff'rent Strokes - "The Adoption - Part 1 & 2"
A junk dealer tries to interfere with the boys' adoption by Mr. Drummond and take their inheritance.

--The Facts of Life - "Breaking Point"
Blair's opponent for student council commits suicide.

--The Cosby Show - "Denise's Friend"
Denise's friend hides a medical problem from her parents.

--Roseanne - "A Stash From the Past"
Pot is found in David's room.

--Party of Five - "Before and After"
Julia is pregnant and considers an abortion.

--That '70s Show - "Happy Jack"
Donna catches Eric in an embarrassing situation.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 22, 2022, 11:22:36 AM
--Maude - "Maude's Dilemma - Part 1 & 2"
Maude is pregnant and considers abortion.

I remember when these episodes aired in November of 1972. This was before the Supreme Court ruling legalizing abortion. I believe I was in my first year in college and it was even discussed in one of my classes. The thing that made the most sense to me back then, I recall, was the argument that a national policy on abortion would be better for everyone than having each state have different rules and regulations about it which meant your optimal health could be an advantage or disadvantage depending on where you live. Look how far we've come in 50 years.  >:(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 23, 2022, 07:32:33 PM
--TV Guide Spotlight: TV's Greatest Westerns

Wagon Train - "Alias Bill Hawks" | "The Malachi Hobart Story"

I've never seen "Alias Bill Hawks" or "The Malachi Hobart Story."

Are there any shows these days that show you the episode title?

("Jolly Old St. Dick"?  :o  )

Whenever I watch a Wagon Train episode I always look forward to scenes with Bill Hawks (Terry Wilson). I like the character, and I like the actor. He was manly and handsome, and the character was the kind of good, steady guy you'd want to have with you in a fight. The character started out as a passenger on the wagon train (with a wife named Emily). I don't know when he became someone working for Major Adams.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 24, 2022, 10:13:22 AM
Are there any shows these days that show you the episode title?

I tried to think of any that I watch that do and I can't think of a one!


("Jolly Old St. Dick"?  :o  )

I wonder if that was a Christmas themed episode or...not.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 24, 2022, 03:28:57 PM
It's funny, but Maverick and Wagon Train both showed the episode title, but I guess maybe even "back then" it was uncommon?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 24, 2022, 03:35:16 PM
Last evening NBC broadcast How the Grinch Stole Christmas (the real one, the cartoon  ;D  ). At the beginning of the broadcast there was a notice that the original had been edited to fit the time allowed (read: to make more room for commercials  >:( ).

The editing was flawless, as far as I could tell, but I could tell it was, indeed, edited--I have it on DVD and watch it every Christmas season.

I have not noticed any broadcast of A Charlie Brown Christmas. Has anyone else seen it broadcast? Or maybe on a streaming service? Or is there some reason it has not been broadcast this year?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 24, 2022, 05:20:20 PM
I don't recall seeing the Charlie Brown cartoon special broadcast this year, but I was watching a lot of the Hallmark stuff, so I may have missed it.

I do recall seeing the original animated Grinch special.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 30, 2022, 08:34:35 AM
While I've been on vacation, I've watched a couple of episodes of Perry Mason on MeTV. One or two outdoor scenes got me thinking:

Anybody who loves automobiles, classic cars, or the history of automobiles should check out some of these old series some time. In those shows from circa 1960, give or take a few years, you can see some amazing cars from that period.

I'm not trying to be funny here. I'm serious. I'm not particularly a car person, but even to me it's neat to see some of those wonderful period vehicles.

Incidentally, one of the supporting characters in the Perry Mason episode I saw this morning was played by Jeanne Cooper. She had a long career in character roles, ending, I think, in a long-running turn in a soap opera. She was also Corbin Bernsen's mother.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Flyboy on January 24, 2023, 05:27:51 PM
We don't get it anymore here..........I do remember Parade though........a nice little tidbit of odd/celebrity type news every week!  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 24, 2023, 05:35:46 PM
Parade......wasn't that like a Sunday paper addition?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 25, 2023, 06:55:05 AM
Parade used to be a supplement to my hometown Sunday newspaper. It shrank in size over the years, and the last time I visited my dad, it was no longer a part of the Sunday newspaper.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 25, 2023, 06:57:28 AM
It's funny, but Maverick and Wagon Train both showed the episode title, but I guess maybe even "back then" it was uncommon?

MeTV is no longer showing Maverick at 10 o'clock Saturday mornings. About two weeks or so ago, they began showing Wild, Wild West. As of this past Saturday, they were still showing Wagon Train at 11 o'clock.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 30, 2023, 07:22:48 AM
Wednesday Addams has passed away.

Lisa Loring died Saturday at age 64.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 30, 2023, 06:36:39 PM
I have no details, but now I've just learned that Cindy Williams, of Laverne and Shirley, has died.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on January 30, 2023, 07:26:45 PM
Wednesday Addams has passed away.

Lisa Loring died Saturday at age 64.





That's sad. I've liked the Addams family characters for a long time. Christina Ricci was also great as Wednesday Addams in the live-action films "THE ADDAMS FAMILY" (1991) and "ADDAMS FAMILY VALUES" (1993).
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: B.W. on January 30, 2023, 07:30:24 PM
I have no details, but now I've just learned that Cindy Williams, of Laverne and Shirley, has died.



I'm sorry to hear that. "LAVERNE & SHIRLEY" (1976-1983) was an okay TV show in my opinion, but it was never one of my favorites.  I think Cindy Williams was one of the actresses who auditioned for the role of Princess Leia Organa in George Lucas' film "STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE" (1977).  If she had won the role over Carrie Fisher, I wonder how different the film would have been?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 31, 2023, 06:55:37 AM
I'm sorry to hear that. "LAVERNE & SHIRLEY" (1976-1983) was an okay TV show in my opinion, but it was never one of my favorites.  I think Cindy Williams was one of the actresses who auditioned for the role of Princess Leia Organa in George Lucas' film "STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE" (1977).  If she had won the role over Carrie Fisher, I wonder how different the film would have been?

It could have been disastrous for the movie. If she was already well known as Shirley by the time Star Wars was released, people would have seen her as Princess Shirley.

I think it's possible that one reason that Star Wars worked was because the principals were, I believe, not well known. If you look at their filmographies, Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford had been around, but their roles had been mostly a single episode here and there in various TV shows. IMDb lists only two credits for Carrie Fisher before Star Wars. Probably most people went into the theater with no preconceived notion of who these people were.

OK that was way off topic. ... Sorry.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 31, 2023, 01:31:35 PM
People would be expecting Princess Leia to be carrying BooBoo Kitty.


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 01, 2023, 10:11:52 AM
I have a friend that thinks underneath the persona of her Shirley character, Cindy Williams might have had a very different acting career, and her acting talents were underused. He showed me this commercial she did as an example and he's got a point. (Although she'd probably have had to change her first name, I mean, for example, think of Cindy Hepburn or Cindy Streep.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FMBVKqc7Y
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 04, 2023, 08:01:47 PM
I thought this was kind of funny. In this morning's episode of Wild, Wild West, one of the guest stars was an actress named Audrey Dalton. Then in the episode of Wagon Train that immediately followed, one of the guest stars was ... Audrey Dalton.

The principal guest star in the Wild, Wild West episode was none other than Boris Karloff.

Robert Conrad sure was handsome back then.

According to IMDb, Dalton appeared in 6 episodes of Wagon Train.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 05, 2023, 12:44:11 PM

Once a week I've been watching Robert Conrad in the Baa Baa Black Sheep series he did for three seasons in the 70's. He starred in at least three TV series, the other being Hawaiian Eye. Hawaiian Eye premiered on TV about six weeks after Hawaii officially became a state! It seems there has always been a TV series airing at any given time that takes place in Hawaii. None of them have been sitcoms, though.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 05, 2023, 07:44:52 PM
My dad liked Baa Baa Black Sheep. I never watched it.

I have a very vague memory of Hawaiian Eye. We never watched Wild, Wild West--I can't remember why. The funny thing is, I've always had a kind of visceral dislike of Robert Conrad--and, silly as that dislike is, I think I know why.

By now I'm pretty sure it's more than 50 years ago that I saw on TV the movie Palm Springs Weekend (Remember that Lyle? I'm sure you must have seen it at some point.) It had quite a cast: Robert Conrad, Troy Donahue, Stefanie Powers, Connie Stevens, Carole Cook, Jack Weston, Ty Hardin, Jerry Van Dyke, Andrew Duggan--and, as Carole Cook's bratty son, none other than Billy Lost in Space Mumy. (I admit I looked up the movie at IMDb to refresh my memory of the cast.)

Anyway, Robert Conrad was essentially the bad guy of the plot, the entitled rich guy with the flashy convertible who eventually tries to force himself on Connie Stevens and nearly kills Ty Hardin by running him off the road. (Of course Troy Donahue was the good guy,)

As I said, silly as it seems, I think this is why I've always had this kind of instinctive dislike of Robert Conrad. It's unfair of me, I know, but first impressions die hard.

But I do have one favorable memory. In the winter of 1987 he had a show called High Mountain Rangers. I haven't looked this one up, so I'm going strictly on memory here, but I'm pretty sure it lasted only half a season. Interesting thing about the show is that the cast included Conrad's two sons, Christian and Shane. What really sticks in my mind about this show is from the opening title sequence where the cast was shown and identified. Christian Conrad was shown  rappelling down a rock face in painted-on breeches and tall boots--and he was shown from underneath. I don't remember it as being a particularly nice ass shot, but it was an ass shot, and that surprised me at the time--which is why I remember it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 06, 2023, 12:26:20 PM

I don't recall that "Rangers" show at all. His daughter was in some episodes of Baa Baa Black Sheep.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on February 06, 2023, 12:42:08 PM
Back in the 70's I wished I could be a park ranger, so I loved the series Sierra, which I knew couldn't last, but watched every episode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6wg6p6NJHA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sierra_(TV_series)

The theme song was written by John Denver, but not sung by him.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 06, 2023, 12:43:26 PM
I don't recall that "Rangers" show at all. His daughter was in some episodes of Baa Baa Black Sheep.

But you do know Palm Springs Weekend?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 07, 2023, 10:07:25 AM

Yes, I know that I watched Palm Springs Weekend, but I can't say I remember it all that well.  :-\
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 11, 2023, 07:34:47 PM
The episode of Wagon Train that MeTV broadcast this morning featured Mickey Rooney (!) as a "greenhorn" going West, with Ellen Corby as his Aunt Em. (She's probably best known as Grandma Walton, but I believe she had quite a lengthy career in supporting roles.) No big deal about the episode, but it did get me thinking a few things about the show.

Major Adams was neither married nor widowed--but Ward Bond wore his wedding ring. If you watch for it, it's not too hard to spot.

They sure costumed Robert Horton to show off his body--at least as much as they could show it off. According to Time magazine, in 1959 Horton had a 42-inch chest that tapered to a 31-inch waist and then widened to 40-inch hips. His shirts were tight to show off that taper, and they were also nearly always open half-way down his chest.

No wonder Ward Bond didn't like him.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 12, 2023, 10:28:44 AM

    :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 10, 2023, 11:47:52 AM
Heard this morning that Robert Blake has died.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 10, 2023, 02:31:36 PM
Yes, I'm seeing news stories all about it on Google.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 29, 2023, 12:19:17 PM
Caught an episode of Perry Mason on MeTV this morning. I didn't catch the title of the episode, but I found the cast quite remarkable. It included Noah Beery, Jr., Strother Martin, and Hugh Marlowe.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on May 29, 2023, 12:44:36 PM
This one?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0673293/

https://www.perrymasontvseries.com/wiki/index.php/EpisodePages/Show248

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 29, 2023, 06:50:48 PM
Yes, that's it.

Dean Jones was the guest star in the episode of Wagon Train that MeTV ran this afternoon.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 30, 2023, 06:15:48 AM
So, by now, has Law & Order been around so long it qualifies as "Classic"?

BBCAmerica is running episodes on Tuesday evenings--old episodes. In the two I watched last evening, Chris Noth was Jerry Orbach's partner, and Jill Hennessy was one of the ADAs.

I've always thought Jill Hennessy is a very sexy woman.

Funny thing about one of the episodes I saw last night? Camryn Manheim, one of the stars of the current reboot, had a supporting role in it.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 19, 2023, 09:49:31 AM
More on the facade of Tara.

This morning (Juneteenth Holiday, so I'm not working) I caught an episode of Perry Mason. There was brief blink-and-you-miss-it shot of what was supposed to be the home of a rich character. The shot was unmistakably the facade of Tara.

I know it. If you watch GWTW, you notice that Tara has the stereotypical four columns that we associate with an antebellum Southern plantation mansion. However, if you look closely, you notice that the door is not centered between the two center columns; it's off to one side, behind the right of the two center columns. There is one window to the right of the door, and two to the left.

I'm guessing this was a stock shot of the facade that was used for the Perry Mason episode?

I know this has been done. I've mentioned many times that my favorite childhood TV show was Daniel Boone. The premier episode of the series featured an Indian attack on a pioneer fort. The "distance" shots of the attackers storming the fort were lifted from the movie Drums Along the Mohawk. Mohawk is one of my favorite movies, and I've watched it many times. Same deal with that debut episode of Boone.

(The fort set for that episode is also unmistakably the fort from Mohawk. Throughout the run of Boone, a distant shot of the Mohawk fort was used to establish the location as Boonesborough.)

I don't watch The Big Valley. Maybe I should so I could make a study of the facade of the Barkley mansion.

(The episode of Wagon Train that aired Saturday morning was one of the two with Barbara Stanwyk.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 19, 2023, 10:16:56 AM

I know that there are some online posts about the Barkley Mansion being the Tara mansion. Including sites debunking that it is not. And it isn't. For one reason, that mansion was torn down or disassembled if you prefer, in 1959.

But you can see a Batman episode where Tallulah Bankhead lives in Aunt Pittypat's house from GWTW.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on June 19, 2023, 10:28:08 AM
There's a mansion on St Charles Avenue in New Orleans which was built after the movie, and the façade was copied from the movie version of Tara. We always referred to it by that name, and so did a number of people in the city.

https://www.nola.com/entertainment_life/the-original-tara-may-be-gone-with-the-wind-but-the-look-lives-on-in/article_342d3898-fea0-11eb-969d-d30082034f60.html

"Such anachronisms aside, the house was such a convincing facsimile that actor Thomas Mitchell, who played the father of Scarlett O’Hara in Fleming’s film, once felt compelled while on a visit to New Orleans to have knocked on the door and said, “Hello. I believe I used to live here,” according to a 1961 Times-Picayune story."

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 20, 2023, 06:17:35 AM
I know that there are some online posts about the Barkley Mansion being the Tara mansion. Including sites debunking that it is not. And it isn't. For one reason, that mansion was torn down or disassembled if you prefer, in 1959.

A good 40 years or more ago, someone gave me a little book called Strange Tales of "Gone With The Wind."

The book includes a photograph of Carroll Nye (Frank Kennedy) standing next to the decrepit Tara mansion. The caption indicates that the photo was taken "20 years after the movie was premiered" (which would make it 1959). The same page has a photo of the remains of the Atlanta train station, and that photo is dated 1959.

This is an interesting mystery. It's interesting to know that I'm not the only one to notice the--what shall I call it?--uncanny resemblance of the two mansions. I suppose it's a mystery that will never be solved--though there has to be an answer out there somewhere. (Maybe in The Twilight Zone? :D  )
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 20, 2023, 11:54:13 AM

Here's an article from 2020 on the retro channel MeTV's website:

The Barkley Mansion from The Big Valley Turned Up All Over Classic Television
https://www.metv.com/stories/the-barkley-mansion-from-the-big-valley-turned-up-all-over-classic-television

It was situated on what is now the CBS Studio City lot. Used to be, among other things Republic Pictures. The lot has been around since 1928. It was announced this year that it will undergo a 1 Billion dollar makeover! I saw a few sitcoms taped there: The Bob Newhart Show, The Betty White Show and Still Standing. Gilligan's Island's lagoon was situated there. This article says "The lush jungle set was tucked behind a large white mansion." The one in question! I would like to have seen those things.

There are photos in the article of the place in several TV series.

The article says "Don't go looking for the Barkley house (or the lagoon) today. A beige, six-story parking deck now hogs that particular piece of land."

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Where it says GATE A along Radford Avenue at the bottom of the map. The blue block that says Sater Parking is where that "six-story parking deck" mentioned above is. Also notice above that it says: The Lagoon Building. That's where the Gilligan's Island lagoon used to be:
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If you're interested, I found this youtube video about the filming locations of Gilligan's Island and he shows old and new aerials of where the lagoon is and on the left side of the screen it has where the Barkley mansion is, just labeled Mansion. I think it's interesting!
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Here's another article about the place, mostly Big Valley and movie westerns that used the location:
http://iversonmovieranch.blogspot.com/2014/12/off-beaten-path-barkley-family-mansion.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 21, 2023, 06:09:49 AM
I don't know if I'd want to park in the Lagoon Building. Look what happened to the Minnow.  ;D

Very interesting, Lyle.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 26, 2023, 10:48:51 AM

Jeff, recently I had been looking to see if the series Turn: Washington's Spies was on DVD as I thought about watching it again. There's not a huge amount of movies or TV about colonial times. I found out that only the first 3 seasons was out on DVD, but not the 4th season -- WTF -- so I've really been hesitant. If I was going to buy it, it would be like buying 3/4 of GWTW or any movie.

Anyway, in looking around I realized I'd never really seen a great deal of the TV series Daniel Boone before and so I bought the first season, which is in b&w, and I've watched the first disc. I'll definitely get the second season because it's in color and then continue on after that if I'm still enjoying it. I didn't realize it was a 20th Century Fox Television program.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 26, 2023, 11:15:56 AM
Jeff, recently I had been looking to see if the series Turn: Washington's Spies was on DVD as I thought about watching it again. There's not a huge amount of movies or TV about colonial times. I found out that only the first 3 seasons was out on DVD, but not the 4th season -- WTF -- so I've really been hesitant. If I was going to buy it, it would be like buying 3/4 of GWTW or any movie.

I hear you. I haven't looked lately, but as far as I know, only the first season of 9-1-1 was released on video. I'd kill for Season 2, which is when RG joined the cast.

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Anyway, in looking around I realized I'd never really seen a great deal of the TV series Daniel Boone before and so I bought the first season, which is in b&w, and I've watched the first disc. I'll definitely get the second season because it's in color and then continue on after that if I'm still enjoying it. I didn't realize it was a 20th Century Fox Television program.

There were two releases of Daniel Boone that I'm aware of. One included each season separately. I only bought seasons 1 and 2. I haven't watched that set for years now. I'm under the impression that the episodes were not in broadcast order, but I might be wrong about that.

There was also a 50th-anniversary box set of the whole series. Of course I bought that one, too. It's been a long time since I watched any episodes now, but I am under the impression that this set is in broadcast order. Of course that's the one I recommend.

The Season 1 two-part episode "Cain's Birthday" (dumb title in my opinion) was also released by itself.

I won't say any more.  ::)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 11, 2023, 09:05:00 AM
I've been watching episodes of the original Law & Order on BBCA (Sam Waterston was still middle-aged). I had to laugh when in one episode I saw about two weeks ago, somebody said, "This is the nineties."

Jerry Orbach really was great.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 22, 2023, 12:13:37 PM

--That Girl

I was looking for some kind of retro TV series that I haven't seen in decades and stumbled across That Girl. It was on for 5 seasons on ABC. I see it was never exactly a ratings powerhouse, landing in the ratings in the 40s or 50s of most watched shows, but that was the case for most of ABC's schedule for many years back then.

It was never a show I feel like I paid much attention to, though I remember it, but not so specifically like other shows. At the time it came on I was really into all the gimmicky sitcoms of the 1960s of which there were many! I decided to watch some of That Girl and found myself thinking it a breath of fresh air from all the things I have been watching lately. It's just a "nice" show. It seems now most all shows have gravitated into button pushing premises and you watch what buttons you feel you'd like to have pressed. Nice isn't that. But it's felt good to watch this nice show for several days now.

Interestingly, many people remember the theme song with the lyrics, but I discovered that the lyrics to That Girl were only written for the last season!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 22, 2023, 01:42:26 PM
--That Girl

I was looking for some kind of retro TV series that I haven't seen in decades and stumbled across That Girl. It was on for 5 seasons on ABC. I see it was never exactly a ratings powerhouse, landing in the ratings in the 40s or 50s of most watched shows, but that was the case for most of ABC's schedule for many years back then.

It was never a show I feel like I paid much attention to, though I remember it, but not so specifically like other shows. At the time it came on I was really into all the gimmicky sitcoms of the 1960s of which there were many! I decided to watch some of That Girl and found myself thinking it a breath of fresh air from all the things I have been watching lately. It's just a "nice" show. It seems now most all shows have gravitated into button pushing premises and you watch what buttons you feel you'd like to have pressed. Nice isn't that. But it's felt good to watch this nice show for several days now.

Interestingly, many people remember the theme song with the lyrics, but I discovered that the lyrics to That Girl were only written for the last season!


Have you ever seen the "Family Guy" parody of the intro?

Here is a side by side comparison.     first link is an episode of "That Girl".  Skip to the time stamp of 2:00, and you'll see the intro starting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHhE1AN5Iao&list=PLtbMv4lXX2mvLb-WQLqbxGh0MDcP1CxNk

Then this is the "Family Guy" parody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjJS76wOUm0
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 23, 2023, 10:44:03 AM
LoL!!!

Thanks, Chuck, I've seen a whole lot of Family Guy, but I do not recall this before. Hysterical!

I remember an SNL parody they did once: That Black Girl. I looked for it, but couldn't find that.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 23, 2023, 02:29:32 PM
--That Girl

We watched that. My memories are really kind of vague. I remember Anne Marie had a boyfriend (played by Ted Bessell), but she was a young woman living on her own making a living, and just now I wondered--could there have been a Mary Richards if there hadn't been an Anne Marie?

Not arguing the point either way; it's just a thought that just popped into my head.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 23, 2023, 04:07:49 PM
There's a short documentary on the 1st Season DVD about how the show came to be and Marlo talks about not wanting to do any of the pilots they were offering her. She said up until then all the women in sitcoms were mothers and homemakers (even on the Munsters and Addams Family) and she had a meeting with an ABC executive and she asked him, "Why do I have to be married; why can't I be single?" She told him most all of her friends weren't married yet, they're in college or working. So they agreed to find something like that and give it a shot. The first pilot they did wasn't testing well. They had Donald as her agent and boyfriend and audiences weren't liking him; Marlo thought maybe it was because he had a certain control over her and made money off her, so they decided to keep him, but only have him as her boy friend and not her agent. And, of course, she'd have a modern wardrobe not being a mother in the series. So you're right she was a precursor to Mary Richards; that show premiered right after That Girl's last season.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on July 23, 2023, 04:16:53 PM
And even when the series was over, they never did get married.

That was pretty much unheard of.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 24, 2023, 06:47:13 AM
There's a short documentary on the 1st Season DVD about how the show came to be and Marlo talks about not wanting to do any of the pilots they were offering her. She said up until then all the women in sitcoms were mothers and homemakers (even on the Munsters and Addams Family) and she had a meeting with an ABC executive and she asked him, "Why do I have to be married; why can't I be single?" She told him most all of her friends weren't married yet, they're in college or working. So they agreed to find something like that and give it a shot. The first pilot they did wasn't testing well. They had Donald as her agent and boyfriend and audiences weren't liking him; Marlo thought maybe it was because he had a certain control over her and made money off her, so they decided to keep him, but only have him as her boy friend and not her agent. And, of course, she'd have a modern wardrobe not being a mother in the series. So you're right she was a precursor to Mary Richards; that show premiered right after That Girl's last season.

My gosh. I didn't think to look that up.

I wouldn't for a minute think of taking anything away from The Mary Tyler Moore Show, but it's sounding like That Girl was more of a groundbreaker than I ever realized. Has it ever gotten any credit for that?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 24, 2023, 10:13:03 AM
It did get some credit for that, but often her job wasn't the main focus of the series in a career woman sense, like Mary's job was. Ann Marie was an actress and not steadily employed as one, and often had temp jobs. Her parents were also more involved in the series, whereas Mary was "on her own." So, That Girl's often referred to as a forerunner of Mary's series.

Speaking of Mary, That Girl was created by Bill Persky and Sam Denoff, who wrote for The Dick Van Dyke Show and were responsible for some of that series most popular episodes.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 24, 2023, 10:15:50 AM

A rant about sitcoms...

As much as I've always liked watching sitcoms, there hasn't been many in the past half dozen years I've even paid attention to. IMO sitcoms started really losing my interest when the commercial time got longer and longer and that's when more and more sitcoms started using the one camera filming instead of a live audience.

Most sitcoms, whether one camera or in front of live audiences, had a standard pattern. They'd often have both a tag in the beginning of the show and at the end, a short intro scene and ending scene. In the middle was two acts for whatever the situation was that week. The first act set it up and the second act was the payoffs. These shows running times were 25-26 minutes, including theme songs and ending credits. Over time the shows started getting shorter and shorter for commercial time. 24 minutes stayed around a long time when they got to that point, but what didn't was the opening and closing credits. Those got shorter and shorter. An opening theme has been almost nonexistent for a couple decades now. (When Everybody Loves Raymond was on the air, at some point they only used the entire theme in the first episode of every season.) Friends theme was so popular they never cut it down, but they slightly sped it up.

After the extremely popular sitcoms like Everybody Loves Raymond, Friends and Frasier left the air around the time BBM was released, more commercial time started altering how sitcoms were written. They were starting to be written more like sketches. They'd have a theme and each 3-4 minute segment something to do with that theme. Or, there were so many people in the sitcoms that each segment was different people. Example: Modern Family dealt basically with three families all related in some way. The older Father with a young wife and kid, the Mom & Dad with three children and the gay couple, which adopted a child early on. Sometimes each episode had each family with their own plots. Instead of three commercial interruptions, standard for some decades, there were as many as 6-7. I once timed an episode of this show, I think, or it could've been Raising Hope, and segments in between commercials ranged from 2 mins. to 4 mins. 30 secs.

The point is, it's harder to write sitcoms this way. A premise and then payoffs becomes unworkable when you're inserting 6-7 breaks. The Big Bang Theory tried leaving the formula intact by having two 4 or 5 minute commercial breaks. This only worked for them because the show was so popular.

I've been watching Young Sheldon streaming this past season and early on I was pretty astounded to see that most episodes were only around 18 minutes and some seconds long. That's quite a ways away from 26 minutes. And it makes you wonder how the industry in the 1950s and much of the '60s did upwards of 30 episodes a season. From 1964-67 Gilligan's Island did 36, 32 and 30 in their three seasons. And they were all longer episodes by several minutes. And hour shows are now anywhere, in actuality, from 41-43 minutes when they used to run 51-52 mins.

Network viewership has shrunk along with the running times. Besides the structure of a sitcom plot now, what you also miss are actually just more human moments. There's no time for them. Like at the end of Bewitched when Darrin and Samantha would react to a remark or something else with a knowing look, a glance, or maybe a kiss.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 30, 2023, 12:14:02 PM


I just found out that on July 23rd, Inge Swenson died.


Inga Swenson (December 29, 1932 – July 23, 2023) was an American actress and singer. She appeared in multiple Broadway productions and was nominated twice for the Tony Award for Best Actress in a Musical for her performances as Lizzie Curry in 110 in the Shade and Irene Adler in Baker Street. She also spent seven years portraying Gretchen Kraus in the ABC comedy series Benson.  Her portrayal garnered three Emmy nominations.


(https://www.koimoi.com/wp-content/new-galleries/2023/07/benson-star-dies-aged-90-001.jpg)

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 05, 2023, 10:05:39 AM
Interesting guest cast on the episode of Wagon Train broadcast this morning. The episode was called "Those Who Stay Behind," from Season 8, original air date Nov. 8, 1964. The cast included (gorgeous) Peter Brown, Bruce Dern, Lola Albright, and Jay North.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 05, 2023, 12:19:48 PM

Don't know why I thought it, but I'll say it: Now 1964 seems like 1864 used to seem like.

I guess that would be the year after Jay North finished Dennis the Menace. I noticed him in an episode of The Lucy Show when he was 15 or 16 and it really seemed to me he was on drugs. I remember a one season show he did around 1967 called Maya. Maya was an elephant. With the success of the movies in the early-mid '60s like Born Free and Flipper and Zebra in the Kitchen (which starred Jay North), a lot of TV shows tried having animals in them at the time. I believe Born Free was also made into a TV series. I know Flipper was!

In the late '70s Jay North enlisted in the Navy for 2-3 years. IMDB says "As of May 2009 he was working as a Correctional Officer at the Reception and Medical Center in Lake Butler, FL. Wikipedia says he was married three times, once, 1973-75, in 1991 for 3 months and in 1993 met a woman with three daughters that he is still married to. No mention in any source that he has had any children himself.

Jay North is 72. Incidentally, his Birthday is on August 3rd, two days ago!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on August 05, 2023, 02:08:41 PM
He and Paul Petersen (from Donna Reed) formed an organization A Minor Consideration, "using his own experiences as a child performer to counsel other children working in the entertainment industry".

So many child stars seem to have had their earnings stolen and suffered other abuse on the parts of their parents or guardians.

It was formed after the suicide of Rusty Hamer (from Danny Thomas/Make Room for Daddy) in 1990.

http://www.aminorconsideration.org/amc-history/

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 06, 2023, 07:12:27 PM
Don't know why I thought it, but I'll say it: Now 1964 seems like 1864 used to seem like.

I remember when "100 years ago" was the 1860s. Now it's the 1920s. I remember when the Battle of the Little Big Horn too place fewer than 100 years ago. I remember when "200 years ago" was before the American Revolution. Now it's the 1820s.

Quote
I guess that would be the year after Jay North finished Dennis the Menace. I noticed him in an episode of The Lucy Show when he was 15 or 16 and it really seemed to me he was on drugs. I remember a one season show he did around 1967 called Maya. Maya was an elephant. With the success of the movies in the early-mid '60s like Born Free and Flipper and Zebra in the Kitchen (which starred Jay North), a lot of TV shows tried having animals in them at the time. I believe Born Free was also made into a TV series. I know Flipper was!

I remember Maya. I don't remember Zebra in the Kitchen.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on August 26, 2023, 03:32:56 PM
Bob Barker has passed away at 99 yo.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on August 26, 2023, 03:42:50 PM
Good man. And a staunch defender of animal rights too.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 26, 2023, 04:11:57 PM
RIP Bob Barker!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 26, 2023, 04:36:35 PM
Today I saw the absolutely positively last episode of Wagon Train. It was called "The Jarbo Pierce Story." It was in B&W, broadcast May 2, 1965, and starred Rory Calhoun. Neither John McIntire nor Robert Fuller appeared in the episode.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 03, 2023, 10:32:59 AM
Today I saw the absolutely positively last episode of Wagon Train. It was called "The Jarbo Pierce Story." It was in B&W, broadcast May 2, 1965, and starred Rory Calhoun. Neither John McIntire nor Robert Fuller appeared in the episode.

MeTV has apparently run through all the episodes of Wagon Train that it has to run and gone back to the beginning of the series. Yesterday was "The Nels Stack Story," episode 1:6, from Oct. 23, 1957.

I presume they still run episodes at 4 p.m. weekdays. I finish my workday at 4:00, but I never think to tune in.

In those early episodes, Bill Hawks (Terry Wilson) was not an employee of Major Adams, the wagon master. He was a passenger on the wagon train, and he had a wife, Emily. I don't recall when in the first season he became a member of the wagon train crew.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 03, 2023, 12:20:58 PM
MeTV has apparently run through all the episodes of Wagon Train that it has to run and gone back to the beginning of the series. Yesterday was "The Nels Stack Story," episode 1:6, from Oct. 23, 1957.


I can't remember which network it is, but there is one that has the complete series of Charmed.  They start at season 1, episode 1, and play three episodes a day, until they get to the end, and then they start over.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on September 03, 2023, 05:29:25 PM

I can't remember which network it is, but there is one that has the complete series of Charmed.  They start at season 1, episode 1, and play three episodes a day, until they get to the end, and then they start over.

It might be TNT, Chuck.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on September 03, 2023, 05:32:28 PM
I think you're right.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 06, 2023, 07:06:40 AM
I had a laugh this morning.

At my job, once a month we are required to take a 15-minute lesson in cybersecurity. The lesson for this month involved an audio component where you answered questions posed by a detective--whose name was Frank Cannon.  ;D

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066636/?ref_=nm_knf_c_1 (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066636/?ref_=nm_knf_c_1)

I wonder who came up with that for the lesson? I would think you have to be "of a certain age" to get it. I would bet that the people who put these lessons together weren't even born when that series aired.

Truly one of the greatest voices of all time.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002016/bio/?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0002016/bio/?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on September 06, 2023, 08:31:58 AM
We listen to him every week on Sunday evenings over in the Diner. He was the voice of Matt Dillon in the radio series of Gunsmoke. A DC station broadcasts old-time radio every week at that time.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 06, 2023, 08:56:49 AM
We listen to him every week on Sunday evenings over in the Diner. He was the voice of Matt Dillon in the radio series of Gunsmoke. A DC station broadcasts old-time radio every week at that time.

Sure enough! That's a neat idea--to broadcast some of those old radio shows (which were before my time ... or mostly, anyway ::)  ).

Here's an article about the radio show. Note all those familiar names listed as people who played supporting roles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gunsmoke_(radio_series)_episodes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Gunsmoke_(radio_series)_episodes)

It wonders me now. ... I guess the increasing wide-spread availability of TV spelled the end of the radio dramas. I also wonder if Gunsmoke lasted as long as it did because in the very early 1960s there were still places that received radio but still didn't receive TV?

I'm thinking of a joke from one episode of the first season of Petticoat Junction (debuted 1963). A visiting hotel reviewer says to Kate Bradley, "I suppose you don't get television out here." Kate's response is, "I saw it once in Greenville, and I didn't get it there, either."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on September 06, 2023, 10:23:04 AM
If you should find yourself free Sunday evenings between 7 and 11, you can listen to the broadcasts here, or check out the archives for several weeks back. Feel free to join us in the Diner on Sundays too, if you like!

https://wamu.org/show/the-big-broadcast/

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on September 06, 2023, 10:25:22 AM
It's possible that people who couldn't receive TV signals might well have listened to the dramas on AM radio, since their signals went pretty far, and they might well have contributed to the continuation of their being broadcast till the early 60's.

"It wonders me now" is a very German way of putting it! Very good!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 06, 2023, 11:12:43 AM
It's possible that people who couldn't receive TV signals might well have listened to the dramas on AM radio, since their signals went pretty far, and they might well have contributed to the continuation of their being broadcast till the early 60's.

"It wonders me now" is a very German way of putting it! Very good!

It used to be a very Pennsylvania German way of putting it, at least among some populations in the region when they spoke English, particularly among those whose first language was the Pennsylvania German dialect. That's where I got it from directly, not from the ancestral tongue.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 07, 2023, 11:38:34 AM
I had to laugh at one point in an episode of Bones last night. Dr. "Bones" Brennan is an atheist, but at one point when she recognized something unexpected, she clearly said, "My God!"   ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 18, 2023, 08:39:02 PM
Well, that was something I didn't know and didn't expect: Julia Roberts in an episode of Law & Order from 1999.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on September 25, 2023, 06:52:31 PM
David McCallum, Star of ‘NCIS,’ ‘The Man From U.N.C.L.E.,’ Dies at 90

David McCallum, who starred as Illya Kuryakin alongside Robert Vaughn’s Napoleon Solo in the 1960s hit spy drama “The Man From U.N.C.L.E.” and had a supporting role as pathologist Dr. Donald “Ducky” Mallard on the top-rated series “NCIS” decades later, died Monday of natural causes in New York City. He was 90.

His son Peter made a statement on behalf of his family, saying, “He was the kindest, coolest, most patient and loving father. He always put family before self. He looked forward to any chance to connect with his grandchildren, and had a unique bond with each of them. He and his youngest grandson, Whit, 9, could often be found in the corner of a room at family parties having deep philosophical conversations.


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/david-mccallum-star-ncis-man-213015283.html?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on October 14, 2023, 05:31:08 PM
Piper Laurie, Three-Time Oscar Nominee Who Starred in ‘Carrie’ and ‘The Hustler,’ Dies at 91

Piper Laurie, who blossomed as an actress only after extricating herself from the studio system and went on to rack up three Oscar nominations, has died. She was 91.

Laurie’s manager Marion Rosenberg confirmed the news to Variety, writing, “A beautiful human being and one of the great talents of our time.”


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/piper-laurie-three-time-oscar-194619580.html
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 15, 2023, 02:57:28 PM

Happy Birthday Alice!  Linda Lavin (86)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on October 15, 2023, 03:04:18 PM
'Three's Company' actress Suzanne Somers dies at 76

By - Carson Blackwelder - October 15, 2023


Suzanne Somers, the actress best known for her roles in TV comedies including "Three's Company" and "Step by Step," has died, her longtime publicist announced Sunday. She was 76 years old.

“Suzanne Somers passed away peacefully at home in the early morning hours of October 15th," R. Couri Hay said in a statement. "She survived an aggressive form of breast cancer for over 23 years. Suzanne was surrounded by her loving husband Alan, her son Bruce, and her immediate family. Her family was gathered to celebrate her 77th birthday on October 16th. Instead, they will celebrate her extraordinary life, and want to thank her millions of fans and followers who loved her dearly."

A private family burial will take place this week, Hay said, and a memorial will be held next month.

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/threes-company-actress-suzanne-somers-dies-76/story?id=102538674
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 30, 2023, 11:41:27 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/81ujcd.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 31, 2023, 06:45:42 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/81ujcd.jpg)

HA!

My hometown Sunday newspaper always runs an article called "I Know a Story," where people write about personal experiences. The story that ran this Sunday amounted to "Everything I Know in Life I Learned from 'Leave it to Beaver.' " (That wasn't the title of the article, but that's what the content amounted to.)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on October 31, 2023, 11:26:08 AM
(https://i.imgflip.com/81ujcd.jpg)

LOL!!!! :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on October 31, 2023, 11:37:14 AM
HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!

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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 23, 2023, 12:54:42 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnpSufxXMAE1YI1.jpg)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 23, 2023, 08:52:33 PM
HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53300657658_0e67d2b4a2.jpg)

Stepping back one holiday. ...

I recognize Boris Karloff, Vincent Price, and Peter Lorre, but I don't recognize the fourth gentleman. Maybe I've just never seen him smile?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on November 24, 2023, 03:55:50 AM
Stepping back one holiday. ...

I recognize Boris Karloff, Vincent Price, and Peter Lorre, but I don't recognize the fourth gentleman. Maybe I've just never seen him smile?

That's Basil Rathbone. He played the original Baron von Frankenstein. He's best known for playing Sherlock Holmes.

The picture is from the set of "Comedy of Terrors" 1963
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 24, 2023, 07:51:16 PM
That's Basil Rathbone. He played the original Baron von Frankenstein. He's best known for playing Sherlock Holmes.

Thanks. Indeed, I've never seen Basil Rathbone smile.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 24, 2023, 08:09:42 PM
Funny one on me, I guess.

This morning I happened to catch an episode of Perry Mason on MeTV. There was a young actor in a supporting role whom I would have sworn was a young Jeanne Cooper. The facial bone structure seemed about right for a young Jeanne, and the voice sounded about right, too. I looked for her name in the credits, but it wasn't her.

Yet she did appear in five episodes of Perry Mason.

That was a pretty good show in its day, Perry Mason.

Re: Jeanne Cooper. (Apparently she did one episode of L.A. Law where she played Corbin Bernsen's mother. She was Corbin Bernsen's mother.)

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0178137/?ref_=nmbio_ov (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0178137/?ref_=nmbio_ov)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 28, 2023, 11:33:46 AM
CBS broadcast "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" last night.  :)

Now, there's a classic for you!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_the_Red-Nosed_Reindeer_(TV_special) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolph_the_Red-Nosed_Reindeer_(TV_special))

Of course, the article does not address that timeless question, Is Hermey gay?  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 04, 2023, 03:02:01 PM
One morning last week I caught what must have been a very early episode of Leave it to Beaver. Of course the Beaver looked like a really small boy, but what impressed me was how young Wally and Eddie Haskell looked. Eddie looked about 12.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 06, 2023, 09:14:25 AM
Norman Lear, who made funny sitcoms about serious topics, dies at 101

Norman Lear, who addressed serious issues in humorous sitcoms, died Tuesday in Los Angeles at the age of 101. Matthew Lawrence, a spokesperson for the family, said the producer and screenwriter died of natural causes. Lear was hailed for producing beloved television shows like All in the Family and The Jeffersons, and later, for his work as a political activist.

A post on his Facebook page said that he was "surrounded by his family as we told stories and sang songs until the very end."

The families in Lear's shows had conversations about the real things that were going on in the 1970s. Before these shows, television worlds were simpler, nicer places, says Darnell Hunt, a leading scholar of racial representation on TV. They had plot lines like: "I burnt the pot roast. What are we gonna do we don't have anything for dinner. Or I have a talent show at school and I don't know how to dance."


https://www.npr.org/2023/12/06/334890639/norman-lear-who-made-funny-sitcoms-about-serious-topics-dies-at-101
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 11, 2023, 08:01:29 PM
Caught an episode of Perry Mason a few days ago, and I was surprised to see the supporting cast included the character actors Paul Fix, Roy Roberts, and Josephine Hutchinson.

Fun fact: When I just now looked up Josephine Hutchinson at IMDb to verify that it was her in the Mason episode, I learned that her mother was Leona Roberts--Mrs. Meade in GWTW.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 12, 2023, 12:08:35 PM
I haven't come across Perry Mason on TV in a long while.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 12, 2023, 07:47:22 PM
I haven't come across Perry Mason on TV in a long while.

MeTV runs it at 9 a.m. EST M-F.

I think they may run it late nights, too, but I'm not sure.

One thing that I find fun about watching the show is the cars. They were as big as boats!  :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 14, 2023, 07:57:51 PM
This evening I was happy to discover that my condo communities package with ComCast includes GRIT-TV. I have Cheyenne Autumn on right now.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 16, 2023, 09:27:48 AM
One of the guest stars in the episode of Wild, Wild West that MeTV showed this morning was none other than our own dear Mary Ann--Dawn Wells, lost to Covid.  :(
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 21, 2023, 09:32:42 AM
Turner Classic Movies remembers 2023

https://youtu.be/i-OggxFtRLE?si=_KdAlhFAZ6ABQW0L

I had no clue some of these people passed away in 2023!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 21, 2023, 09:39:35 AM
In Memorial 2023

https://youtu.be/lk7JfFz4nfA?si=UtImPWHkyDnlTLCJ

A different one and has some others on it and is slower.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 22, 2023, 07:33:20 PM
This afternoon I happened to catch an episode of Adam-12 on MeTV. I'm sure we've mentioned before how handsome Kent McCord was. There was a close-up of him in the episode I saw today, and until I saw that close-up I didn't know he had beautiful blue eyes.

It happened to be a Christmas-themed episode. I wonder if they'll show the two Wagon Train Christmas episodes I've seen?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 23, 2023, 10:40:07 AM

In 2007, when I worked at Virgin Megastore, I looked up one day to see Kent McCord standing in front of me. He was wearing a sweater. I don't often recall people in L.A. wearing sweaters, so maybe it was cold. My first thought was that I wanted to tell him that I had a crush on him when I watched Adam-12. It first aired in the fall of 1968 and ran until 1975! I didn't see the last three seasons when I went off to college. I was thinking then that I also wanted to tell him that he looked the same as he did then as when he was on Adam-12! At the time I believe he was an official of some kind with the Screen Actors Guild.

I did not say any of those things. What I did say is that I had seen him recently on a Laugh-In episode that he did with Martin Milner. They were spoofing their Adam-12 characters. He told me they both had a good time doing that.
I looked him up and Kent is now 81!

During 2020 a friend and I both bought the complete series of Adam-12 and watched them all. Because it's in L.A. we liked recognizing locations or seeing what the city was like in those days. I discovered that a few episodes had scenes filmed in West Hollywood. One was along the blvd. near Robertson and the alley behind some bars. The famed Studio One had yet to open there. Another was in view of where I live now! practically right across the street near Santa Monica Blvd. Another was filmed when the Gelson's market is now, it had a different name back then, and across the street at a bar that actors used to like to go to apparently, the Raincheck Room, that at one time Frankie Darro used to be manager of and apparently Mae West had visited. Another episode was filmed at the corner of the street where a friend of mine lives! Those things are quite interesting to me.

Someone on youtube edited together six minutes of the Laugh-In joke segments they did!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcqn_6cNh7U
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 23, 2023, 02:52:08 PM
Tell you what, I don't know if I'd care to watch the entire run of Adam-12, but I think I would like to see more of the show, probably episodes from the earlier seasons. I guess in a similar vein, I wouldn't mind seeing some Dragnet episodes either. And Adam-12 and Dragnet were both Jack Webb productions.

I will admit to having seen very few shows or movies that Martin Milner was in, but in Adam-12 anyway he always impressed me as, for lack of a better term, a real regular guy. I liked him a lot in that show.

Incidentally, I can recommend seeing him in his very first movie role, in a lovely little film that's one of my all-time favorites, Life With Father.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0590398/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_1_nm_7_q_Martin%2520Milner (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0590398/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_1_nm_7_q_Martin%2520Milner)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 24, 2023, 10:45:30 AM

That was his very first role!

Martin Milner isn't as well known as a lot of TV actors, but he worked a lot and was the lead in three TV series! Route 66, Adam 12 and Swiss Family Robinson.  Plus he did single episodes in everything from 12 O'Clock High to Gidget to Fantasy Island and MacGuyver. He even did a couple episodes of The New Adam-12 in 1990-91 -- which I have absolutely no recollection they even did that and it was an hour long and on for two seasons! Oh, I just noticed the info says it was syndicated, not a network series.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 24, 2023, 03:34:29 PM
That was his very first role!

Yes, indeed--and you recognize him immediately.  :)

Quote
Martin Milner isn't as well known as a lot of TV actors, but he worked a lot and was the lead in three TV series! Route 66, Adam 12 and Swiss Family Robinson.  Plus he did single episodes in everything from 12 O'Clock High to Gidget to Fantasy Island and MacGuyver. He even did a couple episodes of The New Adam-12 in 1990-91 -- which I have absolutely no recollection they even did that and it was an hour long and on for two seasons! Oh, I just noticed the info says it was syndicated, not a network series.

I'd forgotten about Swiss Family Robinson--even though I think I was the one who brought it up in connection with Helen Hunt.  ::)

Route 66 was either before my time, or at least I was too young a child to remember anything of it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 24, 2023, 03:40:54 PM
Saturday morning I caught an episode of Wagon Train that I'd never seen. Robert Horton was the titular star of the episode, but Ward Bond was prominent at the beginning and the end.

I was reminded once again how hot Robert Horton was. Whoever did the costumes must have been a gay man because they certainly dressed him to show off his shoulders and nicely tapered torso. His shirt was open half-way down his chest, so you could see the chest hair.  ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 26, 2023, 02:10:30 PM
Route 66 was either before my time, or at least I was too young a child to remember anything of it.

It aired 1960-64, but that show's always been around! It was syndicated. It now airs on multiple Retro TV channels. It's also streaming. It's also on DVD!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 26, 2023, 05:11:26 PM
Yes, indeed--and you recognize him immediately.  :)

I'd forgotten about Swiss Family Robinson--even though I think I was the one who brought it up in connection with Helen Hunt.  ::)

Route 66 was either before my time, or at least I was too young a child to remember anything of it.

I guess I am somewhat older than you. I do remember watching Route 66, but I also remember "Inner Sanctum", "Mighty Mouse", "Sky King", "What's My Line", "Lone Ranger", etc.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 26, 2023, 07:11:53 PM
I guess I am somewhat older than you. I do remember watching Route 66, but I also remember "Inner Sanctum", "Mighty Mouse", "Sky King", "What's My Line", "Lone Ranger", etc.

I should google some of these shows. I remember something called Mighty Mouse Playhouse from Saturday morning cartoons. I have one vague memory of Sky King. I should look up What's My Line to see if it's the show I remember. The Lone Ranger I saw I suspect was syndicated reruns.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 26, 2023, 08:29:47 PM
I was never a fan of Mighty Mouse.

I do remember Courageous Cat and Minute Mouse.


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Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 26, 2023, 09:43:58 PM
Mighty Mouse....... Here he comes to save the day!!!

https://youtu.be/AigHoHWktO0?si=32BzaLMnc48mg7-L

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 27, 2023, 10:22:52 AM
I was never a fan of Mighty Mouse.

To quote Ennis, "Me neither."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 27, 2023, 10:59:47 AM
I should look up What's My Line to see if it's the show I remember.

The original What's My Line? was on from 1950-1967. It was done in the same theatre Ed Sullivan did his show in and later David Letterman and now Steven Colbert. It aired at 10:30 - 11:00pm Sunday nights on CBS. With some exceptions, it was also usually done LIVE! They did 876 episodes. 763 of them, complete episodes, some with commercials, are available to be seen on the What's My Line? youtube channel!

This was never a show I watched at all any time it had aired. Candid Camera aired right before it and that was something I was interested in, but at my young age when it was on, I was not allowed to stay up that late! Although a couple times I just had to watch it and convinced my parents to let me. Candid Camera was a TOP TEN Show often. It might have been higher had parents let their kids stay up and watch it!

Each What's My Line episode had a celebrity guest. The panelists would blindfold themselves and try to guess who it was. The celebrity guests really were celebrities, too! Errol Flynn, Judy Garland, Ava Gardner, Lucy & Desi, Francis the Talking Mule, Bette Davis, Joan Crawford, Sal Mineo, Brandon De Wilde, Audie Murphy...I mean practically everyone you can think of from those days. Eleanor Roosevelt was on an episode. One contestant who was on there where the panel had to guess their occupation was someone not known then, but he became a Vice Presidential Candidate: Thomas Eagleton.

Several years ago when I discovered the youtube channel I watched ALL of the 700+ episodes in airdate order. Two or three at a time each week night, mostly. I have no idea how long that took, but I didn''t like it when there were no more left! Because it was weekly you got a sense of history passing and what was of interest at the time and such.

I say all this and yet my opinion of this show before I started watching them was that it was stupid and a waste of time. I had this opinion, I now know, because a few years after it went off the air as a weekly series, they started a syndicated series of it 5 days a week and I hated it. They did something the weekly show never did. They had a panel who'd guess the occupation of someone, but afterwards, depending on the occupation, they'd have the contestant demonstrate it in some way and it was just stupid to me. Even now I've seen a few of those on the retro game show channels and they irk me. The original series didn't do those things, plus it was more sophisticated. The panelists were nicely dressed as though out for an evening in NYC and talked about more highbrow endeavors. But never having seen it, only that syndicated version, I didn't know this.

Here's the youtube channel link:
https://www.youtube.com/@WhatsMyLine
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 27, 2023, 11:35:33 AM
Tom Smothers, half of comedic duo the Smothers Brothers, dies at 86

Tom Smothers, half of the Smothers Brothers and the co-host of one of the most socially conscious and groundbreaking television shows in the history of the medium, has died at 86.

The National Comedy Center, on behalf of his family, said in a statement Wednesday that Mr. Smothers died Tuesday at home in Santa Rosa, California, following a cancer battle.


https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/12/27/nation/tom-smothers-comic-half-smothers-brothers-dies-86/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 27, 2023, 02:51:56 PM
I should google some of these shows. I remember something called Mighty Mouse Playhouse from Saturday morning cartoons. I have one vague memory of Sky King. I should look up What's My Line to see if it's the show I remember. The Lone Ranger I saw I suspect was syndicated reruns.

It appears that I was actually vaguely remembering To Tell the Truth, because I do remember Bud Collyer, Kitty Carlisle (aka Mrs. Moss Hart), Tom Poston, Orson Bean, and Peggy Cass. That may have been the first place I ever saw Tom Poston, Orson Bean, and Peggy Cass.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Tell_the_Truth (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Tell_the_Truth)

I also remember Arlene Francis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlene_Francis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlene_Francis)

She and Kitty Carlisle always struck me as very elegant--even though I wouldn't have known the word elegant back then.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 27, 2023, 02:53:55 PM
I was never a fan of Mighty Mouse.

I do remember Courageous Cat and Minute Mouse.

Never heard of them.

The old B&W Mighty Mouse episodes, which I presume were once shown in theaters, were the best.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 27, 2023, 05:05:04 PM
We had a Mon-Fri childrens show on the local ABC station in the morning, Captain Kangaroo, with the Captain, Mr. Green Jeans and Rabbit, a hand puppet. Also on Friday nights we had a scary movie  show called 5 Star Shock that showed the B Movie science fiction and monster movies. Later when I was older we had Elvira, Mistress of the Dark on that Friday nigh show.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 27, 2023, 05:10:09 PM
Also on Friday nights we had a scary movie  show called 5 Star Shock that showed the B Movie science fiction and monster movies. Later when I was older we had Elvira, Mistress of the Dark on that Friday nigh show.


I can remember having a segment called "Chiller Theater"  The beginning was a bleak background with red openings in the ground.  A 6-fingered hand would rise from the pit, and the word "Chiller" would appear, then the hand would grab the letters one by one, and then sink back into the pit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok6uzndOmPA
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 27, 2023, 06:52:53 PM
We had a Mon-Fri children's show on the local ABC station in the morning, Captain Kangaroo, with the Captain, Mr. Green Jeans and Rabbit, a hand puppet.

I remember Captain Kangaroo.  :)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 28, 2023, 09:57:04 AM

The old To Tell the Truth's been showing on the Buzzr TV channel.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 28, 2023, 02:42:36 PM
The old To Tell the Truth's been showing on the Buzzr TV channel.

Buzzr TV? Never heard of it. Is it like the Gameshow Network?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 29, 2023, 12:06:19 PM
^^^

It is similar. They've just started airing a package of British Game Shows on weekends, but I haven't watched any.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 29, 2023, 12:12:43 PM
I got this dvd called TV Guide Spotlight: TV's Merriest Episodes!

In order on the disc are Christmas episodes of these series: Bewitched, The Flying Nun, The Partridge Family, Roseanne, The Cosby Show, Married With Children, 3rd Rock from the Sun, The Ellen Show, Just Shoot Me, The Nanny, NewsRadio, That '70s Show.

I did not watch Bewitched or The Flying Nun this year as I already have them, but I watched the rest.

In order of best to worst, here's what I thought:

The Ellen Show / The Nanny: I couldn't decide. The Nanny made me laugh more and was jam-packed with humor, but The Ellen Show had a sentimental touch to it that I loved. If you're confused as to this Ellen episode. Ellen first had a sitcom titled These Friends of Mine that premiered the same year as Friends. To avoid confusion with Friends, seasons 2-5 were named Ellen. This episode is from The Ellen Show, a 2001 sitcom she had which aired 13 of the 18 episodes they produced. I remember watching it a few times, but not this episode. A year later Ellen began her long-running talk show.

Roseanne: Good middle class family Christmas story and the humor to go with it.

The Partridge Family: This one I watched first and never thought I'd rate it this high. The title of the episode was "Don't Bring Your Guns to Town, Santa" and with that title I couldn't imagine what it would be about. The basic plot synopsis is: After performing in Vegas on Christmas Eve, the Partridges start the drive home. The bus breaks down in a western ghost town with one inhabitant. Disappointed about being away from home for Christmas, the prospector tells them a Christmas story.

It's basically a fantasy story where the Partridge's play the roles in the story the prospector tells. It's not a bad episode, but it sure is hokey. Growing up I was never interested in this series. Until the end credits, I didn't know the prospector was played by Dean Jagger, who'd won a Supporting Actor Oscar for 12 O'Clock High twenty years earlier. Two Oscar winners in the episode!

They spent a lot of money on this episode. They filmed it on a western street that High Noon was filmed on, a set on the then called Warner Bros. Ranch then called the Columbia Ranch and now demolished this year. It had to be dressed twice, once for the 1880s and then as a ghost town. Lots of extras in colorful costumes were added.

Married With Children: I do recall seeing this back in the day when it aired. It was good once for it's alternate looks at Christmas episodes, but not something one really wants to revisit.

3rd Rock from the Sun: I never got this show and the episode is what it is.

That '70s Show: This was more annoying than I thought it would be. It had the Married with Children type laugh track where the studio audience is hyper and every little sexual innuendo by the cast gets the audience screaming. Annoying. The cast was also over-acting, I thought. It was only the 12th episode they did. Did subsequent years get better? I did kind of enjoy that Marion Ross played their grandmother and I wondered if she did any more episodes.

The Cosby Show: This wasn't really a Christmas episode. It was about Claire having a room in the house built and remodeled just for her and in this episode it's done and she moves in. The Christmas part is that during the episode they're decorating and putting up the lights. It's probably the only episode of this show I've ever seen. None of it seemed amusing to me.

NewsRadio: Too many people in the cast made this problematic. Was not particularly amusing either.

Just Shoot Me: Similar problems as NewsRadio, but this one was very badly written. A running gag with David Spade wanting to travel with the photographer for a swimsuit model photo shoot turns amusing with a twist, but then they don't do the obvious payoff to it at the end. I waited for it and just got end credits. It was like giving you the premise of a sitcom episode and not following through and it made me mad.

Did you ever watch any of these series?

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 29, 2023, 03:21:51 PM
Watched The Partridge Family as a kid, 3rd Rock as a grown-up.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 30, 2023, 08:25:37 AM
Recently I discovered by accident that Wild Kingdom still exists--or maybe exists again? I watched it as a kid as Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom.

As I look back now, I see more evidence of my gay nature: Every episode I really liked watching Jim Fowler.  ::)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on December 30, 2023, 08:59:19 AM
Wild Kingdom......I haven't thought about that show in years.  I remember watching it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 30, 2023, 09:51:12 AM
recently I discovered by accident that Wild Kingdom still exists--or maybe exists again? I watched it as a kid as Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom.

As I look back now, I see more evidence of my gay nature: Every episode I really liked watching Jim Fowler.  ::)

It was a good show and it would be great if it did come back. I agree about Jim Fowler.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 30, 2023, 11:23:00 AM
^^^

'Wild Kingdom' returns to inspire new wildlife enthusiasts

Sixty years after its original debut on broadcast TV, the groundbreaking wildlife show Mutual of Omaha’s Wild Kingdom will return to NBC next fall with an original new series produced by Hearst Media Production Group (HMPG) in an exclusive partnership with Mutual of Omaha.

https://www.mutualofomaha.com/wild-kingdom/article/wild-kingdom-returns-to-nbc

Jeff, do you remember that Jim Fowler and wildlife, also used to be a frequent guest on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson?

Growing up I remember it usually airing on Sunday afternoons, when there wasn't anything else on. LoL!

Here's a good PBS NewsHour report about it returning:
https://www.pbs.org/video/wild-kingdom-1698962015/
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on December 30, 2023, 12:20:49 PM
Thanks for the info, Lyle. I'll have to look for it and try to get the girls interested in it. And yes I also remember Jim Fowler taking the creatures to the Tonight Show. I always wondered whether Johnny was really afraid of some of the animals or it was just an act.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 30, 2023, 08:01:00 PM
^^^

'Wild Kingdom' returns to inspire new wildlife enthusiasts

Sixty years after its original debut on broadcast TV, the groundbreaking wildlife show Mutual of Omaha’s Wild Kingdom will return to NBC next fall with an original new series produced by Hearst Media Production Group (HMPG) in an exclusive partnership with Mutual of Omaha.

https://www.mutualofomaha.com/wild-kingdom/article/wild-kingdom-returns-to-nbc

Jeff, do you remember that Jim Fowler and wildlife, also used to be a frequent guest on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson?

Growing up I remember it usually airing on Sunday afternoons, when there wasn't anything else on. LoL!

Here's a good PBS NewsHour report about it returning:
https://www.pbs.org/video/wild-kingdom-1698962015/

Now that you mention it, I do remember Fowler and wildlife appearing on the Tonight Show, although I must say I've only seen clips of it. The Tonight Show has always been on too late for me!  :D

I was going to say something about the show airing on Sunday afternoons, but I didn't trust my memory. Thanks for confirming it!

That's a great article, and it was part of "The More You Know" programs that I saw it.

(Dylan Dreyer must have been pregnant when they filmed the two segments that I've seen lately because in both of them she's standing on a stone bridge and she's partially blocked by it's wall.  :D  )

I see these programs when I'm visiting my dad. They're broadcast over the local NBC affiliate, which is part of the Hearst Media Group.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 04, 2024, 12:24:05 PM
This afternoon I happened to catch an episode of Adam-12 on MeTV. I'm sure we've mentioned before how handsome Kent McCord was. There was a close-up of him in the episode I saw today, and until I saw that close-up I didn't know he had beautiful blue eyes.

Kind of laughing at myself right now. This week I've been skipping the early evening news to watch Adam-12.  :laugh:
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 04, 2024, 01:34:30 PM

It'll keep you saner than watching the same news over and over!

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on January 05, 2024, 06:57:33 AM
It'll keep you saner than watching the same news over and over!

Isn't this the truth!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on January 05, 2024, 08:40:10 AM
David Soul: Starsky & Hutch actor dies aged 80

https://bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67895679

1. I had no clue he was British
2. I had no clue he was a singer

https://youtu.be/YY8APrYU2Gs?si=S0TspFJAZF9DThGb
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 05, 2024, 10:08:16 PM
Kind of laughing at myself right now. This week I've been skipping the early evening news to watch Adam-12.  :laugh:

It'll keep you saner than watching the same news over and over!

Isn't this the truth!!

Anybody who has news on from 4 p.m. through to 7 p.m. or even 7:30 p.m. is asking to go insane. It's quite possible to watch an hour of classic TV and still catch local and national/international evening news--and still catch Jeopardy!  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 05, 2024, 10:09:44 PM
David Soul: Starsky & Hutch actor dies aged 80

https://bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-67895679

1. I had no clue he was British
2. I had no clue he was a singer

https://youtu.be/YY8APrYU2Gs?si=S0TspFJAZF9DThGb

I didn't know he'd taken out British citizenship. I did know he was a singer--I just needed reminding of it.  :D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 06, 2024, 01:20:10 PM
OK, I'm sure this picky--or whatever--of me, yet I confess it's annoying me that only one obituary/appreciation of David Soul that I've seen mentioned "Here Come the Brides." This morning I saw an AP story datelined London that mentioned appearances he had made in other TV shows of the period, but he was a co-star of HCTB before "Starsky and Hutch," and the story didn't even mention that.

(in my family we watched HCTB. We never watched S&H. I would have preferred Paul Michael Glaser anyway. ...  ;D )
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 19, 2024, 02:49:57 PM
Yeah, I have fallen into the habit of watching Adam-12 instead of early news.  ::)

I wondered who was the voice of the dispatcher. I learned that her name was Shaaron Claridge, and she was a real LAPD dispatcher.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam-12 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam-12)

I've never been a car guy, but it's still neat to see the cars of the period in these old shows.

It still amazes me who shows up in these old shows. The plot of one of the Adam-12 episodes broadcast today involved a teenage boy who "took pills" at a party. He looked familiar. He should have. It was David Cassidy pre-Partridge Family.

We also saw Martin Milner in a Lacoste polo shirt. Ah, yes, I remember them well.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 20, 2024, 11:06:17 AM
Yeah, I have fallen into the habit of watching Adam-12 instead of early news.  ::)

The less news the better nowadays, it's so repetitive!

I wondered who was the voice of the dispatcher. I learned that her name was Shaaron Claridge, and she was a real LAPD dispatcher.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam-12 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam-12)

She's actually IN one of the Adam-12 episodes and when I saw her she was NOTHING like I was imagining she was! She also guested in the same capacity on a few other episodes of similar kinds of series.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 20, 2024, 02:27:03 PM
She's actually IN one of the Adam-12 episodes and when I saw her she was NOTHING like I was imagining she was! She also guested in the same capacity on a few other episodes of similar kinds of series.

I have to admit that lately I've been thinking that Kent McCord was kind of, I don't know, maybe wooden is the word? But maybe it was the writing, not him? It's been a long, long time now, but my memory is that just about everybody in those old Jack Webb series was kind of wooden.

McCord is still easy on the eyes, though, in an old-fashioned "matinee idol" sort of way.

Of course anybody who wants to see Jack Webb really different from Sgt. Joe Friday has only to watch Sunset Boulevard.

Incidentally, Ed Asner was in the episode of Wild. Wild West broadcast on Me-TV this morning. Robert Conrad was handsome back in the day, but I never cared for Wild, Wild West. I still just keep the TV on between the Bugs Bunny cartoons and Wagon Train.  ;D
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 22, 2024, 02:48:04 PM
I suppose this isn't exactly Classic TV, but maybe it's at least related.

I learned this weekend that we now have a new Miss America. She's Active Duty in the Air Force and graduate student; how do you do both of those and then add Miss America in addition, too?

Anyway, my point really is that I remember when I was a kid, watching the Miss America Pageant on TV was a Big Deal at our house, and now I don't know if the pageant is even televised.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on January 22, 2024, 03:17:58 PM
I suppose this isn't exactly Classic TV, but maybe it's at least related.

I learned this weekend that we now have a new Miss America. She's Active Duty in the Air Force and graduate student; how do you do both of those and then add Miss America in addition, too?

Anyway, my point really is that I remember when I was a kid, watching the Miss America Pageant on TV was a Big Deal at our house, and now I don't know if the pageant is even televised.

Jeff, the Miss America pageant is on streaming channels now. 2023 was on Peacock. The Miss Universe pageant was shown on Roku TV. The change is due to falling ratings and controversy over its role in the modern world. 2023 was the 100th anniversary of the pageant.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 22, 2024, 08:02:52 PM
Jeff, the Miss America pageant is on streaming channels now. 2023 was on Peacock. The Miss Universe pageant was shown on Roku TV. The change is due to falling ratings and controversy over its role in the modern world. 2023 was the 100th anniversary of the pageant.

Thanks. I'll bet nobody objected to it being on Peacock--unlike the objections raised over football games on Peacock.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: killersmom on January 22, 2024, 08:32:35 PM
Thanks. I'll bet nobody objected to it being on Peacock--unlike the objections raised over football games on Peacock.

Exactly!!!
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 23, 2024, 11:47:31 AM

Yes, growing up I remember the Miss America Pageant was one of the first specials of the fall and very highly rated. Always was on a Saturday, I believe. I used to watch it, I thought of it more as a variety show! Heh! It was a tradition. What was/is your opinion of it Linda?


Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 26, 2024, 05:55:46 PM
Sort of a jackpot of actors in supporting roles in the episode of Perry Mason shown on Me-TV this morning: Hugh Marlowe (Celeste Holms' playwright husband in All About Eve), Jeanette Nolan (Mrs. John McIntire--they often worked together), Carol Hines (Wilbur's wife in Mister Ed), and ... Burt Reynolds (who needs no identifying).
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 27, 2024, 07:19:55 PM
Here's something that suggests to me how much times have changed. The episode of Wagon Train shown on Me-TV this morning was called "The Prairie Story" (originally broadcast Feb. 1, 1961) and dealt with how difficult the wagon train journey could be on women.

One of the women had insisted on bringing a piano with her, and at one point in the story she played the piano while the other travelers sang "Rock of Ages."

The real kicker for me was at the very end, where a woman (the piano player) who had wanted to turn back agreed to go on. This was played over an off-screen chorus singing the doxology "Praise God from whom all blessings flow."

I can't imagine these things occurring now in what I might call a "mainstream" TV show. (Maybe if the characters were involved in religion--clergy or whatever, or if it were done for comic effect, or something, but these were done in dead seriousness.)

Incidentally one of the two main supporting characters was played by Beulah Bondi (Jimmy Stewart's mother in It's a Wonderful Life). She was listed as a guest star.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 31, 2024, 06:51:47 PM
This afternoon I saw that precocious child actor Jodie Foster in an episode of Adam-12. The episode was from 1970, the same year she appeared in an episode of Daniel Boone.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 01, 2024, 12:31:56 PM

I recall that episode, Jeff, for a very specific reason. The last segment of the episode with the hispanic man and the car robbery takes place right on the sidewalk, the parking area underneath the apartments, that I frequently walk by to where a friend of mine's place is. He lives up that side street where a police car drives down and I chuckled to myself because it's not a through street, so they wouldn't be doing that, heh! The apartment building on that opposite corner is also a different color now. Not that any of this is interesting to you, but it is to me, of course!

Take a look: (that's you and me on the left, heh!)
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0871923?entry=ttu (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0871923,-118.3866532,3a,75y,356.12h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snoGU7C7o-OHJTz2AFYLQpQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)

I was hoping that episode would have a reverse angle shot toward San Vicente Blvd. because there used to be a church on that corner that was replaced with a brand new and larger West Hollywood Fire Department, which USED to be located halfway up MY street! Someone had told me that, but I do not recall that church and wanted to see it.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 01, 2024, 12:38:45 PM
The episode was from 1970, the same year she appeared in an episode of Daniel Boone.

I recently saw a couple first season episodes of Daniel Boone that had Kurt Russell in them. His IMDB page says he appeared in 5 episodes, 4 different seasons. His first credit listed is as an unbilled character in an episode of Dennis the Menace! Amazing.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 03, 2024, 07:38:36 PM
I recall that episode, Jeff, for a very specific reason. The last segment of the episode with the hispanic man and the car robbery takes place right on the sidewalk, the parking area underneath the apartments, that I frequently walk by to where a friend of mine's place is. He lives up that side street where a police car drives down and I chuckled to myself because it's not a through street, so they wouldn't be doing that, heh! The apartment building on that opposite corner is also a different color now. Not that any of this is interesting to you, but it is to me, of course!

Take a look: (that's you and me on the left, heh!)
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0871923?entry=ttu (https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0871923,-118.3866532,3a,75y,356.12h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1snoGU7C7o-OHJTz2AFYLQpQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)

I was hoping that episode would have a reverse angle shot toward San Vicente Blvd. because there used to be a church on that corner that was replaced with a brand new and larger West Hollywood Fire Department, which USED to be located halfway up MY street! Someone had told me that, but I do not recall that church and wanted to see it.

Sure these things are interesting! No, I've never been there (never been to L.A. for that matter), but it's always interesting to hear about places that people actually have been that show up in movies or TV shows. While it's not in a TV show or movie, I'm sure I've written somewhere that I was astonished to read a chapter in Craig Johnson's "Longmire" novel Hell is Empty that takes place in a location in Wyoming where I've actually been.

Adam-12 really is a time capsule of circa 1970: the cars, the fashions, the language/vocabulary (reference to police officers as "pigs")--and especially the women's hairstyles!

Assuming the policing we see in the show is accurate for the time, it was really--I don't know the word for it: In one episode I saw last week, they had to call in "the bomb squad." "The bomb squad" was two guys in suits with no protective gear of any kind.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: fritzkep on February 04, 2024, 11:12:05 AM
I remember in the initial episode of NCIS New Orleans they showed people walking through a cemetery with the Mississippi River bridge in the near distance. That's St Bartholomew's Cemetery, where my maternal grandparents are buried, though of course they didn't happen to walk past their vault.

Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 04, 2024, 09:37:56 PM
I recently saw a couple first season episodes of Daniel Boone that had Kurt Russell in them. His IMDB page says he appeared in 5 episodes, 4 different seasons. His first credit listed is as an unbilled character in an episode of Dennis the Menace! Amazing.

Off the top of my head I think I know two of the episodes.

Daniel Boone is another show where I think the first season was the best.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 10, 2024, 08:32:01 AM
The episode of The Wild, Wild West broadcast on Me-TV this morning was rather astonishing.

I'm not a fan of the show; I just keep the TV on and tuned to Me-TV between the Bugs Bunny cartoons and Wagon Train, but this morning's episode featured ... Harvey Korman ... as the villain ... doing a very fake Slavic accent. I kept waiting for Tim Conway to show up. ...

Also, what was very interesting, almost prescient: The episode featured what we now might call a deep-fake, adapted to 19th-century technology. It involved a device that consisted of still photos cranked at speed to create a moving picture. In the story it involved a "movie" of President Grant signing a treaty with a foreign power that was persona non grata to the U.S. allies. Moreover, the "ambassador" of the foreign power in the "movie" was  Asian.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 10, 2024, 10:47:36 AM
^^^

That does sound quite interesting, Jeff. I, too, have never been attracted to The Wild, Wild West. You'd think I would be, as I enjoy off-beat premises of various genres sometimes more than the regular genre, LoL. I always did like their in & out of commercials style with the scene changing to a painted image. Although, do they edit those out now because so many more commercial breaks are added?

I just looked it up. I hadn't realized the first season was in b&w. It premiered in 1965. CBS, oddly, was the last network to switch their programming all to color. It aired 4 seasons; 104 episodes. The source says a two-part TV movie was made in 1980. And, of course, there was that horrible 1999 feature film that one critic said was "like watching money burn on the screen before your eyes."
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 11, 2024, 02:36:22 PM
That does sound quite interesting, Jeff. I, too, have never been attracted to The Wild, Wild West. You'd think I would be, as I enjoy off-beat premises of various genres sometimes more than the regular genre, LoL. I always did like their in & out of commercials style with the scene changing to a painted image. Although, do they edit those out now because so many more commercial breaks are added?

Tell you what, I'd say they're still there, but since I'm not really paying attention, now I can't say for sure.  :">

Meanwhile, I can never seem to remember to tune in to episodes of The Rifleman. Lately I've caught the tail end of a few, and Patricia Blair has been in the cast. I wonder if having been in a Western had anything to do with her being cast as Rebecca Boone in Daniel Boone?
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 13, 2024, 08:19:55 PM
Quite a supporting cast on an episode of Adam-12 that ran on Me-TV this afternoon: A young (pre-Emergency!) Randolph Mantooth, Linda Kaye Henning (Betty Jo Bradley of Petticoat Junction), and the comedian Norm Crosby. Another actor and actress looked familiar, but the closing credits ran too fast for me to catch their names.

Some of the dialog and delivery in these shows just makes me cringe. ...
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 14, 2024, 12:54:39 PM
Another actor and actress looked familiar, but the closing credits ran too fast for me to catch their names.

IMDB has a listing of the people in the episode: Season 3-Episode 25 (Airdate: Thur. April 1, 1971) No foolin'.

Martin Milner - Officer Pete Malloy
Kent McCord - Officer Jim Reed
Rod Cameron - Slim Berkeley
Linda Henning - Hilary Warner (billed as Linda Kaye Henning)
Francine York - Girl
Randolph Mantooth - Neil Williams
Sandra de Bruin - Waitress (as Sandy de Bruin)
Dick Whittinghill - Paul Foster
Dorothy Green - Mrs. Warner
Don Ross - Plainclothes Detective
Norm Crosby - Dewey Conroy
Shaaron Claridge - Dispatcher (voice)(uncredited)
Tim Donnelly - Robber (uncredited)
Marco Lopez - Police Officer (uncredited)

Notes say:
--Tim Donnelly and Marco Lopez also appeared regularly, along with Randolph Mantooth, on Emergency!
--Hilary Warner says she is seventeen. Linda Henning, who portrays Hilary, was twenty-six at the time.
--Dick Whittinghill, who was a Los Angeles radio personality, plays the man trapped in the phone booth; in the background you can see his restaurant, Whittinghill's, which was in Sherman Oaks at 13562 Ventura Blvd. For some reason, it was constantly robbed.

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I looked up that address. The location is now The Children's Courtyard | Toddlers  Pre-School  Pre-K and looks to be an entirely different building. It advertises: Mind-Blowing Education | Must-see Mealtimes | Thrilling Outdoor Playtime.   :-\
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 15, 2024, 06:54:27 PM
Martin Milner - Officer Pete Malloy
Kent McCord - Officer Jim Reed
Rod Cameron - Slim Berkeley
Linda Henning - Hilary Warner (billed as Linda Kaye Henning)
Francine York - Girl
Randolph Mantooth - Neil Williams
Sandra de Bruin - Waitress (as Sandy de Bruin)
Dick Whittinghill - Paul Foster
Dorothy Green - Mrs. Warner
Don Ross - Plainclothes Detective
Norm Crosby - Dewey Conroy
Shaaron Claridge - Dispatcher (voice)(uncredited)
Tim Donnelly - Robber (uncredited)
Marco Lopez - Police Officer (uncredited)

I think that would have been after Petticoat Junction for Linda Kaye Henning. That name Rod Cameron sounds familiar, but I'd have to look him up to see if I recognize him.

I really enjoy trying to spot these people either before or after their time as "big names." In one episode yesterday it was Lindsay Wagner. A few days ago it was Morey Amsterdam. One of today's episodes was directed by Ozzie Nelson ( :o  ), and he had a role in the episode, too. I've already forgotten which of today's episodes was written by Stephen J. Cannell. Robert Conrad appeared as a "special guest" on one of today's episodes.

It's hard to believe now that the tools of police work were so "primitive" ca. 1970. Malloy and Reed carry revolvers. There is no barrier between the front and back seats of a police car.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 16, 2024, 11:24:11 AM
^^^
And they aren't wearing cameras.

Would a NEW version of Adam-12 work?

They tried an hour long Dragnet reboot in 2003-04 that had Ed O'Neill (Married with Children, Modern Family) and Ethan Embry (That Thing You Do).  I watched it and thought it was fine. It was titled L.A. Dragnet. Lasted two seasons.

I don't remember a syndicated reboot that was on for two seasons back in 1989 titled The New Dragnet. That was a 30 minute program.

Maybe RuPaul should do a remake of Dragnet.  ;)
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 26, 2024, 12:18:46 PM
The episode of Perry Mason that I saw this morning had the ruggedly handsome, manly, hairy-chested Hugh O'Brian replacing Raymond Burr in the courtroom. The episode was from 1963. Burr must have had some health issue at that time. In another episode I saw recently, Michael Rennie was the lawyer in the courtroom scenes. Burr only appeared briefly in both episodes, and in neither was he even in Mason's office.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0639385/?ref_=nm_mv_close (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0639385/?ref_=nm_mv_close)

Seems like O'Brian should have been a bigger star than he was.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 03, 2024, 03:17:11 PM
Spent some time today watching old episodes of this.


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Friday the 13th: The Series was on TV from 1987 - 1989. It was originally to be called “The 13th Hour” but the title was changed, even though it has nothing to do with the film series, to Friday the 13th: The Series.

In this show, Lewis Vendredi (Friday in French) owns an antique store, and has made a deal with the devil to sell cursed antiques to unsuspecting customers, in exchange for immortality, wealth, and magic powers.

One day a father and young daughter come into the store, and the little girl wants a doll. Lewis refuses to sell it, because it’s cursed. This breaks the pact, and Satan takes him to Hell.

Upon his death, the store is willed to his niece Micki and her cousin (by marriage) Ryan. When Lewis’ friend Jack comes by, he learns of Lewis’ death, and warns Micki and Ryan of the pact and cursed items. The three then make it their mission to find and get back all the cursed items, before they can harm anyone.

Here are two brief descriptions of episodes from different seasons that play off of each other. If anyone is interested in finding the series and doesn’t want any spoilers, read no further.

For those who do want the spoilers, left click and drag with the mouse now.

“Vanity’s Mirror” a young, very plain girl named Helen has an attractive older sister (Joanne). Both go to high school together, and Helen love’s Joanne’s boyfriend, Scott.

Helen is subjected to bullying due to her looks, and one day finds a gold compact. After being tormented, the compact catches the reflection of one of her tormentors, and causes him to fall in love with her. When he won’t leave her alone, and Helen tires of him, she kills him to be rid of him.

On the night of the prom, Helen uses the compact to make Scott fall in love with her. When she realizes she has no choice but to kill him, she takes him to the roof of the school, and completes an act of murder/suicide. However, even though they are on the scene, Micki, Ryan, and Jack are unable to find the compact.

In another season, we get the episode “Face of Evil”. Helen’s sister, Joanne, is now a make up artist in the fashion industry. She has found and kept the compact as a way to remember her late sister, Helen.

Joanne is doing make up on Tabitha, a model who is about to be “aged out” of the fashion industry. Tabitha finds and opens the compact, and discovers that when she captures someone’s reflection in it, misfortune causes them to be disfigured, and their beauty transfers to Tabitha, making her look young again.

When Joanne contacts Micki, Ryan, and Jack, they learn that she’s had the compact, and the curse isn’t to make people fall in love, the mirror is actually an instrument of revenge, molding its purpose to suit the needs of the person using it.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 03, 2024, 04:57:27 PM
Interesting seen in a episode of Adam-12 one day last week: Gary Crosby (son of Bing) talking with Frank Sinatra, Jr. (son of, well, you know who). They were both playing police officers.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 05, 2024, 07:19:35 PM
I wonder how many times in the run of Adam-12 Kent McCord had to say, "1-Adam-12 roger"?  ;D

That could be a drinking game. Every time he says it, drink a shot.  ;D

Yesterday I caught part of an episode where the cast/characters of Emergency! appeared.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 12, 2024, 07:54:39 AM
One of the supporting characters in this morning's episode of Perry Mason was played by the great character actress Beulah Bondi.

The cast also included Hugh Marlowe.
Title: Re: Classic TV
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 27, 2024, 12:40:57 PM
This morning I glanced up from my breakfast at the episode of Perry Mason that was playing on MeTV and was surprised to see none other than Patricia Blair.

I looked her up at IMDb and learned that the episode was from 1963. Spoiler Alert: She was the murderer.  :o

I had a crush on her in her most well-known role, as Rebecca Boone, opposite Fess Parker's Daniel Boone.

If the IMDb entry is correct, it solves a mystery I've wondered about since about 1966 or '67, and it doesn't reflect well on Miss Blair. In the first two seasons of Daniel Boone, the Boones had a daughter, Jemima, played by Veronica Cartwright. I've noticed that between Season 1 (which was in black and white), and Season 2, Cartwright must have had her teenage growth spurt, because she had grown almost as tall as Blair (who was 5'7"). Cartwright was gone in Season 3--Jemima had just vanished, as though she had never existed. According to the IMDb entry, Blair had become concerned that Cartwright made her look old, so she refused to sign a contract for Season 3 unless Cartwright was dropped from the show.  >:(

Blair died of breast cancer in 2013 at the age of 80.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0086323/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_0_nm_8_q_Patricia%2520Blair (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0086323/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_0_nm_8_q_Patricia%2520Blair)