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Title: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: killersmom on March 06, 2018, 05:46:53 PM
We have filled up another 500 pages discussing movies, so here is the new thread for all of us to continue to discuss  as follows.

An opportunity for forum members to tell us what movie(s) you have seen recently. It's a great way to get reviews on new movies that came out as well as old ones that some may not have seen. 

Everyone knows the rules, so they all apply!

I am anxious to hear about new movies and those we may not have seen.

Let the discussions begin.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Sara B on March 07, 2018, 06:52:41 AM
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Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend?
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Quote from: Sara B on March 05, 2018, 08:33:29
I think Room with a View would be my favourite of the films of his I’ve seen.

I love A Room with a View, but I'd have to go with Maurice made in 1987. A lot of gay films
didn't start to be made until the 1990's when the "Queer Cinema" term arose and Maurice
just floored me with it's romanticism, optimism and a satisfying ending. It still does. It even
managed an Oscar nomination for the costume design.

Another gay themed film that came out in 1987, and was also stellar, is Parting Glances. A film
that featured a relatively unknown Steve Buscemi and Kathy Kinney among the cast. Anyone
see that one?

Both A Room with a View and Howard's End were screened at the Academy when they were having
their Great to Be Nominated Series a decade ago. I hadn't seen A Room with a View in a long time and
I was a bit afraid to go see it again, because I had liked it so much and on occasion you revisit a movie
and it doesn't live up to your memory of it. I was happy to find that I was as overjoyed with it again
as I was originally. It's a delightful confection.

When Howard's End was screened, James Ivory was a guest and did an interview and a little Q&A afterwards.
That's where I learned he wasn't British. For some reason most people think he is. Even my British friend,
a BAFTA member, was surprised! James Ivory was born in 1928 in Berkeley, California, of all places! I wish
he'd write a memoir or autobiography of his life experiences.

I hope James Ivory had a delightful evening last night.

Wasn't sure how to do this. :)

I'm so glad you're fond of Room with a View, Lyle. I've always loved the book, and the film very much came up to my expectations (except for no violets, probably better that they substituted the poppies instead of using fakes!). I enjoy the Florence section of course, but also back in England there's the nice portrait of middle-class Edwardian life, especially Freddie, and Mrs Honeychurch's easygoing attitude - she is quite unfazed by coming across the naked swimming group. All the actors are good, and Helena Bonham Carter, whom I often find quite trying, is perfect as Lucy.

I tend not to be moved very often by love scenes in books so perhaps it's unexpected that I find the growing relationship between Lucy and George, and their brief love scenes, written by a gay author, particularly touching.

Maurice, book and film, I like, though not quite so much, but of course I realise the impact it must have had in 1987 on gay men. Both M-I films, and many others, stand up so well to modern viewing. I'm delighted about James Ivory too.

Howard's End has recently been serialised on BBC. I enjoyed it, but less than the film. It's always an unsettling story, whereas Room with a View for me is pure pleasure.


I did see Parting Glances some time ago. I know I liked it, but remember being slightly unsatisfied with the ending. Must try and get hold of it again.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 07, 2018, 10:50:41 AM
Sara, since you read the novel of A Room with a View, I'm asking if the title cards used in the film
have anything to do with the book...some kind of device in the book used in the film or something.
In the film they add such a nice touch, plus they're beautifully done and a subtle cue that one should
be enjoying oneself. IMO.

Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Sara B on March 07, 2018, 11:13:03 AM
Oh dear, I thought I had the dvd, but can’t find it, and I can’t remember the title cards clearly. But I think they were something like the chapter headings in the book, which were just in normal print. For example:

2. In Santa Croce with no Baedeker
4. Fourth Chapter
6. The Reverend Arthur Beebe, the Reverend Cuthbert Eager, Mr Emerson, Mr George Emerson,Miss Eleanor Lavish, Miss Charlotte Bartlett, and Miss Lucy Honeychurch, drive out in Carriages to se a View: Italians drive Them
9. Lucy as a Work of Art
13. How Miss Bartlett's Boiler was so Tiresome
1i. Lying to Mr Beebe, Mrs Honeychurch, Freddy, and the Servants

Etc.

Were they like that? Anyway, definitely a lightness of touch there. EMF had a lovely sense of humour.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 07, 2018, 11:26:05 AM

--Sudden Fear

At my (mostly) weekly visit with a couple friends we decided to watch this film, which all of us have seen
at least a few times, with the audio commentary. The film is about a person who discovers her relationship
is in jeopardy from her partner and she decides to do something about it. (That's so vague, but...)  It's a
classic film noir with Joan Crawford and Jack Palance, both Oscar nominated for their roles, and also stars
Gloria Grahame, who is so great in this film. She was also Oscar nominated this year, and WON!, but not
for this film, but for the vastly problematic film The Bad and the Beautiful. (I recently tried to watch that
film again, but just couldn't get through it, so I just fast forwarded to Gloria's few scenes. The fact that
Gloria Grahame was in at least 4 films this particular year, was probably why she won for the role she
was nominated for, though I feel it's the worst of the roles. She was also in the best picture winner
that year, The Greatest Show on Earth, and the film Macao.)

The film historian who did the audio commentary was very good. He allowed for specific lines to be heard,
or an important scene, and was very informative throughout. Film commentaries vary widely across the
spectrum and aren't always very good. I find that the film historians who do commentaries seem to be
the best. They prepare for them and always have something interesting at their fingertips.

I know I didn't relate much about the actual film, but if you like film noir I don't see why you wouldn't be
engaged with this film. It mostly takes place in San Francisco and some of it was shot there, but I learned
from the commentary the finale scenes were shot in the Bunker Hill section of Los Angeles where many
great film noirs were shot. The city planners demolished it in the late 50's into the 60's because they felt
it was a blight on the city and the best thing to do was to make it vanish, but so many since have a deep
appreciation for the place that it was.

Bunker Hill: For anyone interested, a little info from wikipedia:

Film
In the 1940's and 1950's, Bunker Hill was a popular film setting, especially in the film noir genre, because of its Victorian homes, its rambling hillside apartments and flophouses, its Angels Flight, and its mean (or at least mean-looking) streets. It was used extensively in such crime films as Somewhere in the Night (1946), Cry Danger (1951), Criss Cross (1949), Joseph Losey's M (1951) and Angel's Flight (1965), among many others. In 1966 it was used in the only episode of Perry Mason ever shot in color: The Case of the Twice Told Twist. (The CBS President wanted to know how the series would look in color if they renewed it for a 10th season.) Director Curtis Hanson recreated Bunker Hill in another hilly neighborhood altogether in his Oscar Award-winning L.A. Confidential (1997). Kent Mackenzie made a film in 1956 called Bunker Hill which was about the displacement of the residents who had to make way for construction. Another film by Mackenzie that was set in the area, his neo-realist and semi-documentary feature The Exiles (1961) depicts the lives of a tribe of urban Indians on Bunker Hill in the late 1950's.

Bunker Hill was a destination of many local artists and photographers, some in its heyday, others as it was being demolished and rebuilt. Among the latter was the Los Angeles photographer Ray McSavaney. Angels Flight and its Third Street neighborhood, c. 1930's, were recreated in South Africa for the filming of Ask the Dust (2006) starring Colin Farrell, based on the novel by John Fante, which was set in the district in the 1930's. Fante also wrote a book called Dreams From Bunker Hill. The 2nd Street Tunnel under Bunker Hill is still widely used in film and advertising.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 07, 2018, 11:27:41 AM
Were they like that? Anyway, definitely a lightness of touch there. EMF had a lovely sense of humor.

Yes, Sara, like that! Thank you!
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Sara B on March 07, 2018, 11:32:57 AM
I’ve just ordered the dvd, very cheap on eBay!
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: morrobay on March 08, 2018, 09:41:29 AM
i didn't know where to put this, so that's how come it ended up here.  South By Southwest starts in Austin tomorrow and ends on Tuesday, March 13.  It's evolved from a mostly music festival to include all the arts, and now food, craft beers, fashion, etc etc...it's getting so big, they're now posting road closures for downtown and streets to avoid...they usually only close 6th Street on weekend nights and UT home games.

These are some of the big movie names, Armie should get a lot of press...(you can ignore Schwarzenegger), and Mayor Sadiq Khan will be giving a keynote speech, which I think they may be streaming live, love to hear that.  I couldn't find a list of all the mayors who will be here, but there is a huge government conference over several days.

SXSW 2018: 15 BIGGEST CELEBS COMING TO AUSTIN
PLAY IT COOL, Y’ALL, BUT THESE STARS ARE HEADING TO THE FEST


South by Southwest is a weird time for our city. What is typically a chill and peaceful town gets hyped up in a frenzied festival as thousands of people descend into Austin. While we love getting to learn new things during the conference, seeing awesome movies, and discovering up-and-coming musicians, we’re not ashamed to admit we also enjoy becoming light celebrity looky-loos.

Here are 15 bright stars that about to shine bright in the capital city.


Armie Hammer
The golden boy of Call Me By Your Name is back again this year—we caught him playing paintball in 2017 to promote Free Fire—with new movie Final Portrait, directed by Stanley Tucci and focusing on the relationship between James Lord and renowned artist Alberto Giacometti. The brilliant dancer will also be on hand at Austin Film Society’s Texas Film Awards.

John Krasinski/Emily Blunt
FYI: Jim Halpert married Emily Blunt, and he’s directing her in a horror movie called A Quiet Place that’s opening the fest. The couple will be here to premiere the flick.

Mark Hamill
Perhaps no one embodies the word “star” more than Luke Skywalker himself. He’ll be appearing at SXSW for the documentary The Director and The Jedi, which gives a glimpse behind the scenes of filming The Last Jedi, with director Rian Johnson. So, you know, the name of the film is  super appropriate.

The Cast of This is Us
If you love to weep—and who doesn’t really?—this will be the panel to attend. Or, you can just stalk Mandy Moore’s Instagram stories and hope to run into the Pearson matriarch around town. Joining her will be Milo Ventimiglia, Sterling K. Brown, Chrissy Metz, and Justin Hartley. Can we please get a dorky dad joke from Randall?

Tiffany Haddish
If anyone is having a huge moment right now, it’s Girls’ Night breakout Tiffany Haddish. She’ll be in town promoting her TBS comedy The Last O.G. with Tracy Morgan, which was created by Jordan Peele. Start buying some Groupons now!

Bill Murray/Jeff Goldblum
The two frequent Wes Anderson collaborators will be in town for—what else?—the latest Wes Anderson flick. Isle of Dogs will close out the fest, and these two lovable goofballs will be in town to promote the stop-motion animated tale of dogs forced to live on a trash island.

Bernie Sanders
The Vermont Senator may not have become the Democratic presidential nominee in 2016, but he still won plenty of hearts in the process. At his first SXSW appearance, he’ll sit down with CNN’s Jake Tapper to discuss politics and the future of the country.

Arnold Schwarzenegger
Whether you know him as the Terminator or the Governator, the Austrian muscleman will talk about his own political career with POLITICO’s Isaac Dovere. We hope he branches out his BBQ choice this time around.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 08, 2018, 09:51:54 AM
Armie Hammer
The golden boy of Call Me By Your Name is back again this year—we caught him playing paintball in 2017 to promote Free Fire—with new movie Final Portrait, directed by Stanley Tucci and focusing on the relationship between James Lord and renowned artist Alberto Giacometti. The brilliant dancer will also be on hand at Austin Film Society’s Texas Film Awards.

Is this blurb saying that Armie Hammer is a brilliant dancer?
I saw (and gave a few remarks about) this film not too long ago.

Mark Hamill
Perhaps no one embodies the word “star” more than Luke Skywalker himself. He’ll be appearing at SXSW for the documentary The Director and The Jedi, which gives a glimpse behind the scenes of filming The Last Jedi, with director Rian Johnson. So, you know, the name of the film is  super appropriate.

Mark Hamill is getting a star today, in just about three hours, on the Hollywood Walk of Fame!
George Lucas and Harrison Ford are scheduled to be there, too. I might have traveled up there
as I've never seen Harrison Ford in person, but I'm betting the Star Wars fans are going to be out
in force and so the crowds are going to prevent one from seeing much of anything.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: morrobay on March 08, 2018, 09:58:26 AM
Is this blurb saying that Armie Hammer is a brilliant dancer?
I saw (and gave a few remarks about) this film not too long ago.



I assumed the "brilliant dancer" was a dig at the dance scene in cmbyn...
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 08, 2018, 09:58:59 AM

For those who can't sit through the Oscar telecast because they think it's too long and those
who feel award season goes on way too long, VARIETY already has an article about what might
be in contention next year. The subjects include another horror film, child abuse, gay conversion
therapy, super-heroes, Neil Armstrong, stop-motion animated dogs and Dick Cheney, played by
Christian Bale.

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/oscars-2019-predictions-first-man-black-panther-1202719872/
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 10, 2018, 10:31:31 AM

--Wonder Wheel

I didn't know what to expect from this latest Woody Allen offering, released at the end of last year. Wonder Wheel refers to the Coney Island ride and this film takes place on Coney Island during the 1950's. The only person I know who saw this film when it was released told me that "it isn't what you think it would be." Now I know what he was talking about. Whether serious or comedic, most of Woody Allen's films have a hook upon which the plot is based. This film is a straight out melodrama. Since it made no splash for prizes during the award season, I figured people didn't like it all that much. After I watched it I looked on RT and generally critics were not taken with this film. I am sure part of it is that with the MeToo and Time's Up movements front and center, Woody Allen's personal problems have resurfaced and are a target and separating that from his films is ever more problematic.

While this film won't become an object of affection for me, I have to say I was quite intrigued by it. First of all, it is one of Kate Winslet's finest acting roles in any film. She was brilliant. The object of her attentions in the film was played by Justin Timberlake. Justin has appeared in a few films, but never taken off as an actor of note so far, but I'd say this was his best performance in any film to date. Even Jim Belushi, someone who is normally overlooked turns in a nice performance.

The film centers on people all struggling with their lives while they're working at Coney Island, a place where those same kinds of people come to have some amusement. The husband's estranged daughter from another marriage arrives and she's being hunted by gangsters because of her husband. The wife (Winslet) is a former two-bit actress with a job in a clam house, who meets a Coney Island lifeguard played by Justin Timberlake, who himself is an aspiring playwright in the mode of Eugene O'Neill. They slowly hit it off, but the estranged daughter also wanders into the lifeguard's world to the displeasure of the wife.

While the machinations of the plot might be somewhat routine, the actors who embody them rise above all that. The Coney Island setting is a plus. There is some comedic relief with the couple's young son who is a pyromaniac and keeps setting fires all over the place.

The film was described by one person as like a play that was shot on location. An apt description. It could very well have been a stage play. I have to say again how much I admired Kate Winslet's performance in this film. Award worthy in the best sense. Based on reviews this film will not be for everyone's taste; as I said, critics have really lambasted this film and perhaps watching it at home instead of on a movie theatre screen was a difference in my opinion of it, I don't know, but it's mood captivated me from the start and I was intrigued with the film.

I really liked this quote from a review by Owen Gleiberman that I read: "It's got movement and flow, it's got a vibrant sunset look of honky-tonk nostalgia, and it's got a bittersweet mood of lyrical despair that the film stays true to right up until the final note."
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 13, 2018, 11:44:31 AM
--The Quiet Man

I've had plenty of opportunities to watch this on video over the years, and I often picked out Oscar nominated films to view,
but for some reason I kept avoiding this one. With St. Patrick's Day coming up, at my mostly weekly visit with some friends
we decided to watch a blu-ray edition of this film last night.

I kinda kept avoiding it because it always sounded like a rather slight premise for a longish film and that's exactly what I thought
it turned out to be. It was filmed entirely in Ireland, in color, and it rightly won an Oscar for the beautiful cinematography. I wasn't
quite enamored of the John Wayne/Maureen O'Hara coupling, though both were fine in it. And although I liked it enough, it didn't
quite reach any lasting affection for me. It was nominated for seven 1952 Oscars, including Best Picture, and won two, the one I
mentioned and also for John Ford, the director. It's come to my mind that John Ford, a legendary name in motion pictures and
considered one of the Best Directors in Hollywood--he's the only person to have won 4 Oscars for directing--well, I don't seem to
be that fond of most of the films he's done for some reason. The only one I can remember that I really like is The Grapes of Wrath,
for which he also won the Oscar for directing.

I think it wears well for a lot of people because it's melodrama is mixed with a lot of humor, and also because of the supporting
characters which all have their charms, though some may criticize them as being stereotypes. All that's missing is a leprechaun
or two!
 
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 13, 2018, 12:52:59 PM
--The Quiet Man

I've only seen it all the way through once, but I could do it again. Seems like a nice film for, well, a quiet night at home. You've got Barry Fitzgerald in the cast; isn't he leprechaun enough?  :D

I completely agree with you and the Academy on the cinematography. It's a visually beautiful movie.

Did I know you don't really care for Ford's films? I guess we really have to part company on this one. I could watch his Westerns with the Duke, especially Stagecoach, The Searchers, and the cavalry trilogy, just about any time. (Of course, The Searchers also has Jeffrey Hunter, but never mind!  :D  ) I just checked Ford's filmography and realized I like far too many of his films to list them. This makes me realize he may be my favorite director and just never realized it before!

I think it's also kind of nice to see the Ford "stock company" someplace other than out West.  :D  If I'd been around "back in the day," I think I would have been straight for Maureen O'Hara. I still think she was one of the most beautiful women ever to grace the screen.

(Tell you what, I've never seen The Grapes of Wrath and kind of don't care if I never do. I know it's considered great, and I don't doubt it for a minute, but the whole premise and scenario just sounds so depressing to me that I have no interest in seeing it. [I have seen a clip of that speech Henry Fonda delivers that I guess is supposed to be iconic.])

Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: morrobay on March 16, 2018, 12:50:00 PM
I'm watching When Harry Met Sally, and I just moved it onto my top 10.  Or maybe it should be on my guilty pleasures list.  Should one have a top 10 and a GP top 10?  And what defines guilty pleasure movies anyway?  Cult?  Bad?  Popular but panned by critics?

It's no Citizen Kane, but I've seen it at least 10 times, I've see CK once...so that just shows that maybe I shouldn't review movies for a living...
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 16, 2018, 04:53:37 PM
I'm watching When Harry Met Sally, and I just moved it onto my top 10.  Or maybe it should be on my guilty pleasures list.  Should one have a top 10 and a GP top 10?  And what defines guilty pleasure movies anyway?  Cult?  Bad?  Popular but panned by critics?

It's no Citizen Kane, but I've seen it at least 10 times, I've see CK once...so that just shows that maybe I shouldn't review movies for a living...

I dunno. I sometimes wonder what qualifies somebody to be a movie reviewer. I don't know whether anyone I recognize has any connection to the Industry other than writing about it.

Lyle?
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: killersmom on March 16, 2018, 04:59:13 PM
My top 10 and Guilty Pleasures movie is "Big Eden". I can never get enough of it.

https://youtu.be/WSxGRfZuGGc

This is silly, but I even have an outline of a continuation of the movie.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: BlueAmber63 on March 16, 2018, 06:34:16 PM
                                                      ^^^
My "guilty" pleasure film is "Breakfast Club" ! I HAVE to watch it when ever it's on !!!

My all time favourite movie...well....it's right up there ..... is "The Third Man"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP1VPuXEMbg


Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Sara B on March 17, 2018, 01:08:53 AM
My top 10 and Guilty Pleasures movie is "Big Eden". I can never get enough of it.

https://youtu.be/WSxGRfZuGGc

This is silly, but I even have an outline of a continuation of the movie.

Such a feelgood film. And I like the fact that the main character isn’t glamorous.

Glad to hear you do that, Linda. Me too for some films and books!
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 17, 2018, 07:57:04 AM
My top 10 and Guilty Pleasures movie is "Big Eden". I can never get enough of it.

I saw it once. A very nice little movie. I could gladly see it again. :)
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: BlueAmber63 on March 18, 2018, 06:24:40 PM
Today I watched a good little movie called "Brooklyn" (2015). Main characters being
Ellis....played by Saoirse Ronan.....and Tony Florello....played by Emory Cohen.

She (Ellis) is young Irish girl who emigrates to US ... and goes to live in Brooklyn.

She meets a young Italian man (who are supposed to hate all Irish!) by the name of Tony.
They fall in love (no problems there) ....when she has a message to say her sister has died who still lives at home in Ireland.
She tells Tony she MUST go back ....to see and stay with her mother for a while...even though she has missed her sisters funeral. He says OK ...but first....he wants to get married to her. She agrees.......but they both insist they tell no one for the time being.

I will leave it there....just incase someone has plans on seeing it sometime.
 
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Sara B on March 19, 2018, 01:07:30 AM
Today I watched a good little movie called "Brooklyn" (2015). Main characters being
Ellis....played by Saoirse Ronan.....and Tony Florello....played by Emory Cohen.

She (Ellis) is young Irish girl who emigrates to US ... and goes to live in Brooklyn.

She meets a young Italian man (who are supposed to hate all Irish!) by the name of Tony.
They fall in love (no problems there) ....when she has a message to say her sister has died who still lives at home in Ireland.
She tells Tony she MUST go back ....to see and stay with her mother for a while...even though she has missed her sisters funeral. He says OK ...but first....he wants to get married to her. She agrees.......but they both insist they tell no one for the time being.

I will leave it there....just incase someone has plans on seeing it sometime.
I recorded it yesterday and will watch it soon. The book is by Colm Toibin, I know.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 19, 2018, 10:44:02 AM

Brooklyn's a wonderful movie. It was nominated for a few Oscars a couple years ago, including Saoirse Ronan, Best Picture
and screenplay. Shortly thereafter it was reported that BBC was working on a TV series based on the book, but I haven't
heard anything about that since. Anyone else?
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Sara B on March 19, 2018, 11:07:36 AM
No, I can’t see any reference to it since February 2016 when plans were announced.

I’ll definitely watch the film though.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: BlueAmber63 on March 20, 2018, 05:45:46 AM
                                                         ^^^^

Hope I haven't spoil it for you Sara. :)
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Sara B on March 20, 2018, 06:58:05 AM
Not at all! :) I’ve got a lot to watch atm so haven’t got round to it yet.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: CellarDweller115 on March 20, 2018, 04:17:50 PM
My "guilty" pleasure film is "Breakfast Club" ! I HAVE to watch it when ever it's on !!!


I'm the same way.  That one, and "Dirty Dancing".
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 21, 2018, 10:11:52 AM

--Annihilation

For admirers of the genre, this film has a lot to offer. Genuine thrills, imaginative effects, ideas worth contemplating, but like many of these "idea" films it just doesn't come together enough to be a satisfying whole. It's not a complete misfire, but when one makes up a story like this you've got to have more character background to empathize with the cast, otherwise what happens is less affecting. The basic premise is that something lands on earth and is causing an area to be taken over by what they call the "Glimmer," and it's growing larger. Any team of people that's gone into this area to find out anything hasn't returned. Except...one person. The film concerns a female team, something different, that goes in to the Glimmer to explore and discover what's going on.

I more or less agree with this one reviewers comment about the film: "Making movies steeped in vagueness these days is proving to be an excellent way to earn critical praise, but being artfully ambiguous strikes me as a way to cover for not being able to finish the job."



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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 21, 2018, 10:48:27 AM

--A Wrinkle in Time

Oddly, this film has quite a lot of similarities to Annihilation. Both involve a group of people searching for something or someone through an unfamiliar landscape with obstacles along the way. The difference is that Annihilation is very much geared to adults in the telling of the story and "Wrinkle" is 180 degrees in the opposite direction, geared to young adults or children. This film was constructed to be so inclusive that you start looking for it like a game. I know the film was based on a book, but I don't know if that was the case with the original work. (I know someone who read it and he said the book was creepier in tone and plotting.)

Ava Duvernay directed it and while her film SELMA was beautifully directed and affecting, this one is directed with just too much preciousness, with the characters delivering dialogue like they'd smoked pot and are delivering the most fantastic insights, but they're really just stoned.  The premise is that a young girl's father (he's white, played by Chris Pine, with a Grizzly Adams beard) has disappeared (ostensibly through a "wrinkle in time" -- and space) and she (black), her brother (?), and a white boy go on this journey to find him with the help of three "celestial-guides" (?) who are played by Oprah (black), Mindy Kaling (Indian) and Reese Witherspoon acting like she just stepped off the bus. Along the way they run into some bad guys like Michael Pena (Latin). The casting is as much a special effect as the visual effects are.

These "guides" are called the three Mrs. and their names just seem so un-clever or under-thought, I couldn't take it seriously... Mrs. Which, Mrs. Whatsit and Mrs. Who. (Should've been "misses".)  The younger brother is called Charles Wallace (his first and middle name, though for a good part of the time I just thought he was from a different mother) and his name "Charles Wallace" is repeated so often that it just becomes intolerable and unrealistic to think anyone would keep calling him that.

The more this film went on the more annoying it became until I didn't care whether they found her father or not. I know there isn't a lot of films with a teen black girl as the lead, but there were so many close-ups of her with the camera swirling around her head with really no reason that it started to seem ludicrous. It kept feeling like a point was being made instead of a movie. And the father (Chris Pine) a supposed scientist, seems as stupid and naive as one could imagine and so it's hard to believe anyone would want to go after him. The girl's white boy classmate is so neutered that he seems like extra baggage. The one good thing in the film is the 9 year old actor playing the lead's younger brother. (Charles Wallace...stoppp!) His name is Deric McCabe, he is of Filipino descent and was born in Whitefish, Montana, and moved to Los Angeles with his parents a year later. He only has 3 IMDB credits, including this one, but you'd think he'd had a whole lot more experience. He starts off as a precocious good-natured younger brother-type, eager to go on this journey, but through some deception, turns into an evil obstacle for the group to deal with. A really good performance and based on this it seems we could be seeing more of him.

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 21, 2018, 11:28:39 AM
--A Wrinkle in Time

Oddly, this film has quite a lot of similarities to Annihilation. Both involve a group of people searching for something or someone through an unfamiliar landscape with obstacles along the way. The difference is that Annihilation is very much geared to adults in the telling of the story and "Wrinkle" is 180 degrees in the opposite direction, geared to young adults or children. This film was constructed to be so inclusive that you start looking for it like a game. I know the film was based on a book, but I don't know if that was the case with the original work. (I know someone who read it and he said the book was creepier in tone and plotting.)

When I was a kid, shortly after the book was published, my elementary school class was shown a presentation about the book on "Educational TV" (aka PBS). Based on the presentation, I thought the book sounded very creepy. I had no interest in it then, and none now. Goes for the movie, too.

I'm guessing the names of the Celestial Guides come directly from the book.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 21, 2018, 11:36:43 AM
--The Pajama Game

At my usually weekly visit with a couple friends we watched this Doris Day and John Raitt musical. It's the story of a group
of Sleeptite factory workers who manufacture pajamas and who haven't been given a raise like other similar factories and
so a management/worker problem develops headed by the new superintendent, John Raitt, and the factory worker's female
representative in these matters, Doris Day. Of course, Doris and John become enamored of each other to further complicate
the proceedings. The issues presented in the story aren't the point here, though, it's the fact it's a musical comedy and there's
a lot of it along the way.

Though John Raitt starred in many many Broadway musicals, this is the only film where he got to reprise his role in Hollywood.
It's also the only Broadway musical where Doris Day starred in the Hollywood film version. All her other musicals were studio
originals. Several other of the original Broadway cast reprised their roles in the film, including Eddie Foy, Jr., Carol Haney and one
of my favorite character actors, Reta Shaw. You may remember her as the cook in Mary Poppins or as Aunt Hagatha on Bewitched,
among dozens of other roles.

As for Carol Haney, due to an ankle injury at one point when she was appearing in the Broadway version her understudy had to go on and
take her place, doing the wonderful Bob Fosse choreography (he also did the film) and singing up a storm with Steam Heat and Hernando's
Hideaway. The understudy: Shirley MacLaine! Director/producer Hal B. Wallis was an audience member at one of MacLaine's performances,
and signed her as a contract player for Paramount Pictures! Carol Haney got to reprise her role in the film, though, and it's the only film she
appeared in with a speaking part. All her other film appearances she was strictly a dancer.

The one thing that modern audiences have trouble accepting is that the factory workers are wanting to strike for a mere 7½ cents an hour.
"7½ Cents" was the name of the novel by Richard Bissell that the film is based on. But, as I read online just now, "One of the main problems
in the factory is that the workers want a 7-1/2 cent raise and are willing to go on strike to get it. Nowadays this doesn't seem like much, but
the average mill/garment worker in 1953 (when the play was written) made on average about $1.25 an hour, or about $50 a week. The raise
would add $3.00 to each paycheck, so the 7-1/2 cents would be about a 16% increase."

The "ballad" song of the musical is titled "Hey, There."  It's first sung by John Raitt in his office and he sings it into a recording device. When he
plays it back to listen to it, he sings a duet with himself. This was also done on stage and is an interesting element from this musical. The song
has a possessive meaning for me personally. A recording of the song done by Rosemary Clooney was the #1 Song on the Billboard charts on the
day I was born! (I also got to hear Rosemary Clooney sing it in person at the Hollywood bowl in the early 1990's.

This musical is one of two by the team of Richard Adler and Jerry Ross. Their next one was Damn Yankees, another huge hit. Unfortunately
after that, Jerry Ross was lost to a heart attack at the age of 29 and one wonders what musicals might have followed if the tragic incident
had not happened.

This film is one of those musicals made in Hollywood in the 1950's that is just joyous, bouncy, colorful and full of good will, made when everyone
took these things for granted. Decades later it feels even more wonderful.

The Broadway version won Best Musical and the revival in 2006 won Best Musical Revival. A clever thing in the Broadway versions is that instead
of a routine curtain call, the curtain call is a fashion show of pajamas! There's a similar fashion show inserted near the end of the film. I don't know
if they did it this way in the stage versions, but when John Raitt and Doris Day appear, John is just wearing the bottom of one pair and Doris is just
wearing the top! Thus signifying they've gotten together I would guess.

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Post by: Sara B on March 21, 2018, 12:15:34 PM
Loved The Pajama Game and the music!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 21, 2018, 12:19:52 PM
--The Pajama Game

At the end of last month, we had our quarterly staff event at work. The theme was "Pajama Party." Guess which movie was playing on the screen in the staff auditorium?  ;D

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of my favorite character actors, Reta Shaw. You may remember her as the cook in Mary Poppins or as Aunt Hagatha on Bewitched, among dozens of other roles.

And the cook/housekeeper for Hope Lange in The Ghost and Mrs. Muir.  :D

She was another of those jewels Hollywood could not have done without,
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Post by: brian on March 21, 2018, 02:38:18 PM
I was in the chorus for Pajama Game in 1993 for our Musical Society. I remember complaining about the acrobatics in the picnic scene as, at 49, I was probably the oldest in the chorus. Just looked at the photos and see I wore a gold cowboy suit in one scene. I must have enjoyed that  :D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 21, 2018, 04:31:49 PM
Loved The Pajama Game and the music!

Oh, good, glad to hear that Sara!
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 21, 2018, 04:41:36 PM
At the end of last month, we had our quarterly staff event at work. The theme was "Pajama Party." Guess which movie was playing on the screen in the staff auditorium?  ;D

Did you have to wear pajamas?

And the cook/housekeeper for Hope Lange in The Ghost and Mrs. Muir.  :D
She was another of those jewels Hollywood could not have done without,

Yes, Muir took place in Maine and tat's where she was born!

I've always been unsure how you pronounce her name. Does anyone know if you pronounce it
like Rita, or is it retta, like in Greta?

I always thought she'd be perfect to play Carry Nation in a film.  A musical.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 21, 2018, 04:45:26 PM
I was in the chorus for Pajama Game in 1993 for our Musical Society. I remember complaining about the acrobatics in the picnic scene as, at 49, I was probably the oldest in the chorus. Just looked at the photos and see I wore a gold cowboy suit in one scene. I must have enjoyed that  :D

I want to see the gold cowboy duds!

This must've been your once a year day!

Brian, "everyone's entitled to be wild,
Be a child, be a goof, raise the roof...
Once a year!"

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Post by: Sara B on March 21, 2018, 05:07:10 PM
And now you’re sending me to bed with 'once a year day' on my ran. Thanks for that  :D

Brain (obvs not functioning well!)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 22, 2018, 10:03:58 AM

    :laugh:
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 22, 2018, 11:40:25 AM
Reta Shaw:

I've always been unsure how you pronounce her name. Does anyone know if you pronounce it
like Rita, or is it retta, like in Greta?

That's a good question. I haven't been able to find out, but I always assumed it was a "long e," like in "Reba" (as in McEntire).  I can't say why, except for certain rules of pronunciation I was taught in grammar school; if the consonant, the "t," was double, then the vowel, the "e," would be short. Possibly that doesn't apply to names.

Garbo was Swedish, so possibly English rules don't apply. That's certainly the case with my German surname.

Sometime if you watch Dinner At Eight, if you listen very carefully, you can catch the Ed Loomis character (husband of Cousin Hattie) complain about having to miss a "Greeta Garbo" movie.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 23, 2018, 08:00:29 AM
"I am big! It's the pictures that got small!"

 ;D

Sunset Boulevard on TCM last night,

A movie I can watch just about any time.  :)

Incidentally, when William Holden and Nancy Malone are walking through the backlot, and Holden suggests they return to the office by way of Washington Square, that actually is the Washington Square set from The Heiress (1949).
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2018, 11:22:17 AM
^^^

Yes, Sunset Blvd. is one of the greats!  Too bad it was up against All About Eve that year! And no Oscar for Gloria Swanson. Or Bette Davis or Anne Baxter for that matter. Or even Eleanor Parker who was excellent in the prison film Caged. What a line-up in the Best Actress category!

Just goes to show you how stupid pitting films together for awards is when some years there's a slew of great choices and then the next year there's so little, but someone gets one anyway.

I also really like the Sunset Blvd. musical. I've seen it several times and in several theatres, with Patti Lupone, Glenn Close and Petula Clark, among others. I, also, even had tickets to see it with Faye Dunaway, before that situation developed. I have several recordings, all with the above actresses and also with people like Diahann Carroll, Betty Buckley. Elaine Page and a German version mit Helen Schneider.

I'd love to see it made into a film, but you never know how those things would turn out. Plus, Andrew Lloyd Weber has always been pretty stuck on Glenn Close for the role and of each and every person I mentioned above, she is the lesser singer.

When it first came out in the early 90's I thought it would be great if it could've been Doris Day.  She'd been out of the business awhile and it would kind of parallel the story of Norma Desmond, at least time-wise. But that ship's sailed. Who has any idea who'd be a good choice for a movie version of the musical now?

Some who I might posit for the choice are probably too old, though current audiences usually think Norma Desmond is ancient. In the film she is only 50.  (In fact, there's a line in a song in the musical sung by Joe Gillis, that originally said, "There's nothing wrong with being 50, unless you're acting 20."  And audiences would howl in laughter when it was sung. They figured out the reason was that audiences didn't think 50 was that old and they obviously thought she was much older than that. So instead of changing her age, they changed the lyric to: "There's nothing wrong with being your age, unless you're acting 20." Then people could think her age is whatever they wanted to think it was.

As an aside, when I saw a screening of the Best Picture winning film MARTY many years ago, there was a scene where Marty's mother and a neighbor lady are sitting in chairs and knitting and they have a conversation about all their troubles, mostly physical ones, and it makes them seem like they're very decrepit old ladies. Then Marty's mother says to her friend, "Well, that's what happens when you turn fifty."  Again, the audience erupted in laughter. In the early 50's people's  perception of being fifty was obviously different than it's become now.

Anyway, If they got a musical version underway I'd like to see one of the classic stars in it, like Shirley MacLaine or Liza Minnelli or maybe Barbra Streisand if she did not direct it herself. Maybe all of those ladies are too old now. Glenn Close just is too obvious to me and frankly, she's been doing it off and on for 25 years and the idea of her in it seems tired now. Some have suggested Meryl Streep and that idea seems too obvious. Also, though people "say" she can sing, I don't really care for her voice when she does. Cher? Not sure. She'd be great in a MAME revival. How about Ru Paul?

Let's throw out some names for Joe Gillis, too; some choices might be Jake Gyllenhaal, Matt Bomer, Channing Tatum, Harry Connick Jr., Ryan Gosling...Justin Timberlake?...Nathan Lane, heh!

Some people don't think the musical as a film wouldn't be so good, because several of Joe Gillis's songs are exposition related, in the manner of William Holden's voice-over exposition in the film. On stage, the character still sings the songs in front of the audience, though, while we witness Norma's scenes. But, in my opinion, in a film version no one says the songs have to be sung onscreen. They don't have to be. Who knows if it'll ever happen.

A few years ago they were going to produce it as one of those Theatre Live! presentations currently popular among theatre aficionados, like the recent FOLLIES production I saw. That didn't happen, either.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2018, 11:25:10 AM

--Eye in the Sky

This is a relatively recent film starring Helen Mirren, among others, about moral dilemmas in the age of drone warfare. It's a taught thriller and had me on the edge of my seat. The film is akin to having a near world-wide moral discussion about doing something while a clock is ticking down. I recommend it.



 
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Post by: Flyboy on March 25, 2018, 12:04:33 PM
Only thing I know about Sunset Boulevard is the song With One Look, or whatever the title was then......Streisand recorded it way back when, LOVED her recording......I also LOVED Glenn Close's performance of the song at some event, an awards show, maybe a Royal performance in the UK? Can't remember, but I do love that song......never saw the Broadway show..........YET!! LOL....it could happen....... :o :o :o
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 25, 2018, 01:39:35 PM
"I am big! It's the pictures that got small!"

Love the preceding line, too.

"I know you. You're Norma Desmond. You used to be in pictures. You used to be big."

 ;D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 31, 2018, 11:25:51 AM

--Game Night

Game Night is the surprise of a movie in many a month, if you ask me. It's about a group of friends who
regularly have game nights and this time around Jason Bateman's brother Brooks, played by Kyle Chandler,
decides to up the ante, but things aren't what they seem.

The less said about comedies, in my opinion, the better, because they usually benefit from the element of
surprise, but I enjoyed the way the mix of slapstick, action, personal dialogue and absurdity were mixed
together and I thought the result was hugely entertaining, Each of the players in game night is allowed to
shine. The comedy is often outrageous, but quiet dialogue often is what makes you laugh out loud. I liked
that the creators of this film let you know immediately they wanted you to have a good time from the
opening credits, to the art directed look of the town that made it seem like a game board itself, to the
end credits segment.

As with most comedic films, I find they benefit from seeing them in a theater and not home alone.
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Post by: BlueAmber63 on March 31, 2018, 05:22:08 PM
Today I have been to the movies with my son Jamie and his two little girls..Amelia and
Sophie to see "Peter Rabbit".

The animation was beautifully done....and everything was all so cute and picture perfect.
How we would want life to be for all the kiddies in the cinema and everywhere.

I love going to the cinema with my granchildren. They don't pick movies to pieces.
They either like it ...or not....which is fine by me !

And "yes" ...I enjoyed it too !!!!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 01, 2018, 07:03:58 PM
As usual, I guess, TCM is running Easter Parade as I write this. I kind of have it on in the background. I'm catching up after being away for the weekend.

Immediately preceding, TCM showed King of Kings, with Jeffrey Hunter as Jesus. I'm sorry I wasn't home in time to watch that. I've seen only parts of it before, but I'd watch just about anything with Jeffrey Hunter in it.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 02, 2018, 10:44:14 AM
^^^

I watch Easter Parade every year sometime in the spring, not necessarily Easter weekend!
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 02, 2018, 11:05:49 AM
--The African Queen

I hadn't seen this film in decades and some of us watched a restored version last night.
The cinematography and color in the restoration were top notch. I believe most know
this movie, so I don't need to comment on the plot. It's a grand Hollywood entertainment
with two of its most well known stars. It's always a bit weird at the start when you see a
movie with Humphrey Bogart in it that's in color.

Bogart won his only Academy Award for this film and it's quite deserved, even though many think
Brando should've won it for his signature performance in A Streetcar Named Desire.

In my knowledge, the film has always been popular and well thought of. I don't know anyone that
doesn't like it. Which makes it odd that it didn't garner a Best Picture nomination along with it's
nominations for Actor, Actress, Writing and Directing. No cinematography, either, which is even
more strange. The film Decision Before Dawn, which isn't well known or often seen, got two
nominations, one for editing and one for Best Picture, which seems quite odd. I've never seen it,
but the synopsis sounds intriguing enough. Has anyone else seen Decision Before Dawn?
The vagaries of Oscar nominations and winners, eh?
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 03, 2018, 07:35:54 AM
--The African Queen

In my knowledge, the film has always been popular and well thought of. I don't know anyone that
doesn't like it.

Got that right! Love it!

Whenever I watch it, I nearly fall out of my seat laughing at Kate singing "Guide Me, O Thou Great Jehovah" at the beginning of the film.  :D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 03, 2018, 10:11:13 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 07, 2018, 10:00:20 AM

--A Quiet Place

90 minutes of pure edge of your seat tension.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 09, 2018, 11:32:13 AM

--Ready Player One

I'm not a fan of "video game movies" -- not the ones based on video games, but ones that mostly are video games. The reason is
that there seem to be no stakes to me because it's a game, not something really happening to people. So why would one care about
any of it? This film tries to rectify that idea by having stakes in the game itself, but I wasn't really on board. There are some amusing
pop culture references that enhance the proceedings, including a great scene involving "The Shining," but the film goes on too long at
2 hrs. 20 mins. and it outstayed its welcome for me.

I also didn't think the lead actors were all that interesting, but then again, character development wasn't really the point of the film.
There's also a rather blatant message at the end of the film in some laughable dialogue akin to the one at the end of the Volcano movie
from twenty years ago that had everyone in stitches.

I will say that people who like and enjoy playing video games will probably be quite satisfied with this film. It's just my personal preferences
that weren't in line with this film. I'd say. Also, it's available to see in IMAX and 3-D!  I can't imagine that, it felt on overload to me already,
but I did not see it that way!
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 09, 2018, 11:40:51 AM

I am fortunate to see a lot of movies because I have friends who are SAG or BAFTA members who invite
me along as a guest. My SAG friend informed me that the new season, which usually starts the end of
May, is being postponed because the venue where the screenings are held, the DGA, is having it's theatre
renovated/remodeled and it's not re-opening until October!  :o  My first thought was not the movies I'd
miss, but all those lovely nights during the summer escaping the heat in the air conditioning for three
hours, and visiting with my friends!
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Post by: Gazapete on April 09, 2018, 11:56:00 AM
I love "The African Queen" too, I still have the VHS tape! My brother and I could recite dialogues still today,in Spanish, but still.

Había un viejo pescador
Que zarpó del puerto de Pimlico
Y cuando zarpó de Pimlico
El viento empezó a soplar
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 09, 2018, 01:05:59 PM
I love "The African Queen" too, I still have the VHS tape!

I do, too!

Except I also have it on DVD, along with the rest of my favorite Hepburn movies.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 09, 2018, 02:29:14 PM
^^^

Why is The Rainmaker so under-rated?  In the sense that it's rarely seen or
talked about when mentioning Hepburn.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 09, 2018, 02:43:07 PM
Why is The Rainmaker so under-rated?  In the sense that it's rarely seen or
talked about when mentioning Hepburn.

Could it be that Lizzie Curry (I had to look that up) is simply not as memorable as Rose Sayre, Tracy Lord, or Eleanor of Acquitaine?

I think you could maybe ask why Desk Set seems to be shown so much. It's fun and I like it but it's no African Queen.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 10, 2018, 10:36:57 AM
Heh!

Desk Set is one of my favorites!
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Post by: Sara B on April 10, 2018, 11:23:12 AM
I watched "The Darkest Hour". Good, I thought.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 10, 2018, 12:33:30 PM

Agree.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 12, 2018, 11:21:12 AM

--Decision Before Dawn

When I was talking about The African Queen recently I looked up it's Oscar noms and wondered why it
hadn't gotten a Best Picture nomination, even though it was nominated for many others. I noticed then
a film that "had" gotten a Best Picture nomination that had been elusive over the years in terms of its
availability to be seen, Decision Before Dawn, was on the list. I hadn't checked for a long time and found
it has been released on DVD and so I rented it.

The story is about Americans, in the waning days of WWII, using selected German POW's, potentially unreliable,
to act as spies on their own country and gather intelligence. It's based on true accounts of war files that were
released and this story is from a 1949 book about the subject, Call It Treason.

It stars Richard Basehart, Gary Merrill and Oskar Werner. Hildegarde Neff has a supporting role.

There are some extra features on the dvd, like newsreels from the time, and this film apparently was deemed and
promoted as an IMPORTANT picture. The director is seen being presented an award for the film and the trailer for
the film tells everyone how the movie is important and has to be seen. It touts that it was all shot on location in
the places the story took place.

On location was becoming more and more prevalent after the war when audiences demanded more realism.  I think the
film suffers from aging over the years. I don't think the location footage helps the film that much, though it is interesting
to think about. The WWII TV series Combat looks just as good as this film, and that was primarily done on the MGM backlot.

The film also suffers from the myriad of WWII films that have been made since then. The story of using Germans to spy on their
own country is what's interesting about this film and what that means to everyone. By the time of these events it was clear to
most people Germany was going to lose the war so Americans tried to find like-minded Germans to help them win it, but these
people were not without their conflicted ideas. The U.S. is still fighting about Civil War statues, for instance, and despite the evidence
in front of their faces, people are still choosing to support Trump.  I Believe one reason the film was deemed so important in 1951 is
that it was trying to show people that not all Germans were in lock step with their leaders and that working against them was the
right thing to do for Germany in the long run. It's probably why it was chosen as a Best Film nominee, though only garnered one
other nomination for film editing.

1951 had some great films nominated for Best Picture...they were:
An American in Paris
Decision before Dawn
A Place in the Sun
Quo Vadis
A Streetcar Named Desire

In fact, it was thought that either A Place in the Sun or A Streetcar Named Desire would be the winner,
but it turned out that An American in Paris won.  MGM was embarrassed enough by the win that they
took out an ad in the trade papers the next day showing "Leo the Lion" holding an Oscar and saying,
"Honest!  I was just standing in the 'Sun' waiting for a 'Streetcar'."

Although there's much to be admired in An American in Paris, it shouldn't have won over those other
two classics. I'd have even placed The African Queen in the running over Quo Vadis and Decision Before Dawn.
The passage of years has proved it to be worthy of that. The fact that An American in Paris won that year
probably short-changed the chances a year later for MGM's Singin' in the Rain which is often cited as the
best musical Hollywood's ever produced. That garnered only 2 nominations, for scoring and Supporting Actress.
And this was in a year when the picture winner is most often touted as the worst choice ever made by AMPAS:
The Greatest Show on Earth.

But we've rolled our eyes, and more, many times since then, too, eh?
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 12, 2018, 11:40:17 AM

By the way, has anyone else ever seen Decision Before Dawn?

Also on the DVD was a newsreel showing Hildegarde Neff getting her hand and feetprints put
in cement at Grauman's Chinese Theatre, and an interesting fact emerges from this: She
put on a shoe and put in the prints for Oskar Werner as well, standing in for him as he was
not able to get there from Europe. They said it's the first time someone stood in for someone
else at the hand & footprint ceremony at the Chinese Theatre. I wonder if that was the only
time?  I mean, why would you do that anyway? Strange.

Also, I don't know who is responsible for putting the DVD out in the marketplace, but the
menu for the extras has the title Newsreels and for the Chinese Theatre segment they have
it listed as:

WALK OF FAME INDUCTION
ON THE SIDEWALK.

WTF?  I thought it was something about the Hollywood Walk of Fame, but I knew that wasn't
instituted until 1959. A lot of people have jobs they should not.

There was also 5 previews for some Fox war films that I've not heard of, so I watched
them to see if I'd be interested. One of them was a war story in the Philippines and touted
as one of the stars was Jack Nicholson! That came out of the blue. It's a 1964 film called
Back Door to Hell. (b&w) He'd already had 20 film and TV credits by then!

Operation Gobi was another film trailer. A 1953 film in color. It looked very boring.

Another film was listed as You're in the Navy Now, but in the trailer Gary Cooper says the title
is The U.S.S. Teakettle (1951). (IMDB lists that as an alternate USA title.) The trailer also seems to
not have the dialogue soundtrack throughout most of the trailer for some reason, just the music.

I can't remember one of them now, but there was also the trailer for Decision Before Dawn with an
extensive paragraph from Hedda Hopper telling everyone how important the picture is and that
Hollywood has made one of the all-time greats.  Leave it to Hedda to over accessorize.  :)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 15, 2018, 01:56:58 PM

--The Unsinkable Molly Brown

I'd never seen a full widescreen version of this film before until last night. I saw it on TV back in the day and the VHS pan & scan version.
I was also familiar with the Broadway Cast Album with Tammy Grimes (Tony winner) in the lead role.

I've never seen a stage production, but something tells me it has to work better than the movie version. I liked some of it, but overall the
movie feels a lot longer than the running time would suggest. It's a little over two hours without the Overture and Exit music. The first big
problem is Debbie Reynolds in the first third of the film. She plays the character almost in full caffeine mode that there's nowhere to escape.
The songs she sings during this time are some of the best in the film, but for some reason she screams all of them. Knowing that they always
pre-recorded the songs for playback while filming, you have to ask why this was. They have musical directors and vocal people at these sessions
and surely they wouldn't have wanted her to sing these songs in a yelling mode. If she was advised to do this, it was a really bad decision. It
just feels downright unnatural.

Then there's Harve Presnell. He has a beautiful voice, but he comes across odd-looking for much of this film. Also, that voice seems at odd
with his character, even though the same kind of singing voices were heard in Oklahoma, which didn't jar from that film. The songs in this
film also don't blend well with the story in between them. It always seems the story is a weight to overcome until you get to the next song,
and it's often an uphill battle. It seemed there was one segment without any songs for at least twenty minutes.

Opening up the stage version to show lavish sets and scenery doesn't seem to work here, either. The film is really about the characters, but it
too often is overwhelmed by the production values.

Watching the film is a very uneven experience.

It was nominated for six Academy Awards, including Debbie Reynolds, who is good in the second half of the film, but uneven overall.
This same year Audrey Hepburn was famously not nominated for her role in My Fair Lady. Part of the reason talked about was because
many thought it unfair Julie Andrews didn't get the part, but also because her singing voice was dubbed. I'd have given the nomination
to Audrey dubbed than Debbie not dubbed. Though it is nice that Debbie got a nomination, her only one in her career.

Interestingly, Molly Brown did not win any of it's Oscar nominations and those categories all went to the two other musical films
that year, My Fair Lady or Mary Poppins.  Molly Brown was nominated in these categories:

BEST ACTRESS
ART DIRECTION (Color)
CINEMATOGRAPHY (Color)
COSTUME DESIGN (Color)
MUSIC (Scoring of Music--adaptation or treatment)
SOUND



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Post by: morrobay on April 15, 2018, 03:19:59 PM
TCM is showing A Taste of Honey (1961).  I've only seen it once, long ago, so I'm watching it again. 

I was all about the gritty British movies in the mid-60s, my favorite is The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner - I watched that over and over again, as they ran it as "movie of the week" daily on one of the Philly TV stations...Tom Courtney was marvelous.
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Post by: oilgun on April 15, 2018, 03:26:06 PM
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w197/oilgun/a%20quiet%20place-01_zpsbt5dkhie.jpg)

I saw A Quiet Place today, the horror film with John Krasinski and Emily Blunt. It's very effective but a couple of things annoyed me. They live in a world where the slightest noise might get you killed by these Alien like creatures. They eat off kale leaves because regular dishes would make too much noise FFS! They walk barefoot along paths that have been covered with sand or soot or something in order to muffle any noise. And yet, they decide to get pregnant. Yeah, a crying baby is just what you need in that environment. And don't get me started on the nail that is inexplicably sticking out on the basement stairs that is never removed even after one of the characters steps on it.
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Post by: morrobay on April 15, 2018, 03:35:39 PM
I found a trailer for Loneliness...it warns: "suitable for adults only"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4asUxvijYQ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4asUxvijYQ8)


First time I ever heard the hymn Jerusalem...I think it was brilliant how the director, Tony Richardson, set the hymn, sung by residents of a borstal, against the backdrop, shown between clips of the boys singing, of one of the boys being hunted down after absconding, caught, and thrown in a cell with a warden as he wraps a chain around his hand to beat him...

'Jerusalem' from 'The loneliness of the long distance runner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk9dLy58rsc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk9dLy58rsc)
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Post by: Sara B on April 15, 2018, 11:51:21 PM
TCM is showing A Taste of Honey (1961).  I've only seen it once, long ago, so I'm watching it again. 

I was all about the gritty British movies in the mid-60s, my favorite is The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner - I watched that over and over again, as they ran it as "movie of the week" daily on one of the Philly TV stations...Tom Courtney was marvelous.
I saw them all when they came out, and was particularly moved by Taste of Honey, with the sad gay (queer in those days) friend. I’m not too into grittiness at the moment though. How did you find it this time, Nancy?
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2018, 12:23:28 PM
--The Greatest Showman

A musical called Barnum opened on Broadway in 1980 and ran a long time. I had the cast album of it
and I liked most all the musical numbers in it. I then saw a production of it at the Pantages Theatre in
Hollywood. I cannot recall who the lead actor was right now, but the lead actress was the original Broadway
lead, Glenn Close. I liked it a lot.

This recent film is also about P.T. Barnum.

Have you ever sat down with a bag, say, of Doritos and started eating them and loving it, but you keep
eating them and after awhile wish you'd stopped sooner than you did? That's kind of the experience I had
watching this film. I was enjoying it, but after awhile felt it was just repeating itself and I'd had enough.

With a title like "The Greatest Showman" you want to experience some wonder at what you're being shown,
and in that regard I often felt it was being forced on you instead of shown to you and then you feel the wonder.

For example, there's a scene with some elephants and tigers and it's obvious, at least with the tigers, that they
are CGI inserted. That doesn't make for "wonderment" while watching it, it just makes you feel cheated out of
something. I keep saying that film tricks used to be called "special effects" because it was special for those who
made them and for the audience seeing them. Now it's just visual effects aka routine. Also, Barnum's "oddities"
are all presented to you in a way that you are practically told you "have" to like them, not coming to your own
conclusion about them and any voice in the movie that has a different opinion is immediately seen as Snidely
Whiplash.

I thought that one of the most exciting scenes in the film was with Zac Efron and Zendaya, performing a
choreographed song number that involves swinging around the stage on ropes, but you even feel cheated
somewhat by that, because they are "singing" while doing it and no one could sing that perfectly while being
jerked around on ropes.

I don't mean to say that the film is bad or unwatchable, but, like eating Doritos, it's something you might enjoy
enough while doing it, but afterwards you really haven't gotten anything more substantial out of it than that.
___

I looked up some reviews of the film and they're pretty evenly split, but the negative ones are really pretty
negative.

This quote from one reviewer encapsulates both sides of the critics reviews:

"I love beautiful, well-crafted, profound musicals with cleverly rhymed lyrics. Fortunately, I also enjoy shallow
throwaway puff pieces with catchy tunes, lyrics that are purely functional, and meandering subplots."

After the initial blast of reviews and many critics disparagement of it (its got a 55% rating on RT), this is
a rare film nowadays that hasn't disappeared almost immediately from theatres and managed, after 4 months,
to draw in audiences (audiences give the film an 88% rating) and just recently it was noted that it's box office
managed to tie La La Land's box office.

This is good news for those of us who would like to see more musicals, and original musicals at that, being
made. If they make money, there'll be more incentive to make them!
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2018, 03:19:48 PM
I saw A Quiet Place today, the horror film with John Krasinski and Emily Blunt. It's very effective but a couple of things annoyed me. [...]     And yet, they decide to get pregnant. Yeah, a crying baby is just what you need in that environment. And don't get me started on the nail that is inexplicably sticking out on the basement stairs that is never removed even after one of the characters steps on it.

Well, when she tells him she's pregnant this thought crosses everyone's mind in the audience, but you aren't suggesting that people weren't still going to have sex were you? The spectre of AIDS at its height didn't deter many people from not having sex, did it?

Actually, many questions crossed people's minds about a lot of things in this film, but because of the nature of the film you couldn't really slow it down to answer each and every one of them. You just have to accept it and move on. I heard someone in the audience wondering where they got all those red lights from.

As for that nail, yes, one wonders why that wasn't addressed immediately, but am I wrong, but I thought so much was happening at that point that it had to be let go and hopefully dealt with asap, though it wasn't.

I do think the movie works as is if one let's go immediately of any questions that might come to mind. It's a tense 90 minutes. I don't know all the details, but apparently the director, and star, John Krasinski, removed a whole lot of scenes from the script that were backstory. I guess all the backstory scenes. In one sense, that would've given us more answers to a lot of things, but also gave us safe space to relax during this film, but it might not have worked that way, either.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2018, 03:22:09 PM

--1941

I've always thought of this film as like a wind-up toy that you let loose and it jumps around and sputters and you get tired of it pretty quickly. Still, there's a lot that interests me here, but sitting through it in one sitting is not recommended, which is why I watched it in half hour increments over five nights this week.

The original film release was two hours. After it was made they cut almost a half-hour out of it to release it, but subsequent TV viewings and DVD releases had restored it to it's near 2 1/2 hour running time! And, further, there's an extra 8 minutes of deleted material as a bonus!

I wouldn't recommend it to anyone unless, like me, you have an interest in it other than the story you're presented with. The things that interest me are its period Los Angeles setting and all the trappings of that time period, the miniatures they made of Pacific Ocean Park and Hollywood Blvd. and environs, the non-CGI special effects, the dozen or more cameo appearances by celebrities who were wandering around the Warner Bros. studio that Spielberg got to appear in crowd scenes here and there, stuff like that. I also really do like the score of this film and one of the features on the DVD is that you can just play the musical audio track of the film.

Also, a lot of the young actors in the film are handsome and appealing, people like Bobby DiCicco, Tim Matheson, Perry Lang, Treat Williams and the notable Wendie Jo Sperber!

You'll find comedians like John Candy, Dan Aykroyd and the inexplicable character in this film, Wild Bill Kelso played by or inhabited by John Belushi. Was he on drugs the entire time he was in this film? I still wonder what exactly he was supposed to be in this film.

You'll find Hollywood stalwarts in this film like Robert Stack, Warren Oates, Christopher Lee and Ned Beatty. Everyone from Slim Pickens to Toshiro Mifune! If you look closely you'll find Lenny & Squiggy from Laverne & Shirley. You'll even find Laverne, Penny Marshall. You'll find Hollywood directors like John Landis and Sam Wood, who was about to direct The Big Red One film and tapped Bobby DiCicco for a role in it. You'll see character actors like Lionel Stander (Hart to Hart) and Dub Taylor. Wait, did I just see Patti Lupone, James Caan and Mickey Rourke? You did.

Did I just see 10 vats filled with thousands of gallons of colored paint collapse? A house roll off a cliff? A character in the film who is actually a wooden dummy? Two dinosaurs like in Jurassic Park? You did.

Another extra on the DVD is several written reviews of the film, and all but one of them is negative! LOL!

I do admit this film has a fascination to me that I can't fully explain. I mean, the first time I saw it the night it opened at the Cinerama Dome in Los Angeles, I had a headache when I left the theatre. I thought that was just one of those things, so I went back to see it again and had a headache when I left the theatre for the second time!


Part of the interest, I'm guessing is from the history I learned it was based on.  (Cont'd.)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 16, 2018, 03:28:32 PM
Part of the interest, I'm guessing is from the history I learned it was based on.  (Cont'd.)

MAYBE (?) I'm going out on a limb thinking anyone is interested in this, but even if one person finds it worthwhile, that would be great. If not, I had a nice time dwelling on it for awhile myself!

(cont'd)

The film IS loosely based on several true life things that happened in Los Angeles and environs that I learned more about subsequently.  Not only the war jitters of the west coast populace, but this film combined several stories in one stew pot. One was the Zoot Suit Riots between military servicemen and Latinos. That occurred in June of 1943. Another was the Bombardment of Ellwood, an oil field near Santa Barbara shelled by a Japanese submarine. That was February 23, 1942. The third, and most notable, is known as The Great Los Angeles Air Raid, or The Battle of Los Angeles, which occurred February 24-25, 1942. Sometime in the evening, people thought they were being attacked by Japan, someone reported enemy aircraft, Air raid sirens sounded throughout Los Angeles County and a total blackout was ordered and thousands of Air Raid Wardens were summoned to their positions. The 37th Coast Artillery Brigade began firing .50 caliber machine guns and 12.8-pound anti-aircraft shells into the air at reported aircraft and "all hell broke loose" when the jittery populace got involved. What people were firing at was never really explained. The military blamed it on it's standby excuse of a "loose weather balloon." The insistence and persistence of many that they saw "something" morphed into people believing it was a UFO. Incidentally, the Oscars that year were held the day after this event, on February 26, 1942.

It's such a part of Los Angeles history that the local Fort MacArthur military Museum near San Pedro has had a recreation of it every year since 1991, when it was initially considered a one-off event for the 50th Anniversary. It is now an annual fundraising event for the museum. I'd never heard a thing about this before I discovered information about it and, when I did, I vowed to attend which I did last year which happened to be the 75th Anniversary of the occasion.

The experience lasts from 3pm to 11pm and begins when you enter Fort MacArthur which is dressed as though it is 1941. The personnel are all dressed in period uniforms and the place has vintage military vehicles and machinery all around the area. Further, there are plenty of 1941 and earlier car models all around with period items to give you a sense of recreating the era. Anyone attending is encouraged to dress in period attire and nearly everyone does in one way or another. (When I was there a spitting image of Winston Churchill was there! Gen. MacArthur, too.) At first you can roam the grounds and see where the military guns were placed to defend the coast. There is a museum filled with items pertaining to the WWII experience from a Los Angeles point of view. Everything is done to make you feel as though you've gone back in time to 1941. In the late afternoon you climb the embankment where the Pacific Ocean is in full view and a simulated fight between an American and Japanese warplane is taking place in the skies over the Pacific!

There's a gift shop with all sorts of historical and military information available to buy. There are booths with other WWII
related attractions you can find out about. If you need a restroom, there are military styled latrines you have to use.

There is a commissary of sorts set up where you can buy dinners and eat them outside. (I had fish & chips.) Nearby there is a dance floor set up near the hill and a dance band stage in close proximity. Another location provides beer and/or wine.

Around 4:00 p.m. you can be given simple dance instructions for the WWII dances one might be familiar with. Around 6 p.m. Dean Mora and the Ft. MacArthur Officers Orchestra arrives and begins playing. Many many people crowd the dance floor. The Master of Ceremonies, "Colonel Maxwell DeMille" occasionally stops the dancing for special musical numbers, either sung by 40's style crooners or chanteuses' or some groups reminiscent of the Andrews Sisters. A few specialty dance numbers are performed, some by individuals doing tap dances and some others doing fantastic jitterbug routines.

Also, at one point in the evening, there is a ceremony by which someone from Ft. MacArthur calls out each decade and asks military veterans from those decades to come forward and stand and be recognized. If the decade had a major war in it, they announce it as, say, "WWII veterans". Unfortunately, most all decades have had a major war in them.

All through the evening, between the orchestra playing, and on a couple occasions even interrupting it, the MC comes out to, at first, give out information as a warning that something may have been spotted in the sky up the coast, but it's probably a rumor, until these announcements get more and more ominous, until the moment arrives when a blackout is called for and the air raid commences. And I mean a full blown louder than you can imagine air raid occurs, with tanks and anti-aircraft guns firing into the night sky until the all clear is given that the crisis is over.
   
The band plays another hour or so and then the evening winds down. I loved the whole experience and would like to go again. I can't tell you how much I enjoyed watching all of the dancing, especially everyone in period dress. What surprised me was how many young people were there, people in their twenties and, indeed, I struck up a conversation with a Ft. MacArthur military person who happened to tell me that he is surprised and gratified that over the years that more and more young people have been coming to this event every year. And with nearly everyone in period dress it really felt like you were back in that time period. Most of the guys who were there dressed in military uniforms...soldiers...sailors and the like...but some dressed in period suits and many Latinos came in zoot suits! Apparently, I found out later on, that the museum actually hires a few re-enactors to come in period dress, just in case many attendees do not. That didn't seem to be a problem.  This event in itself has become so popular that a downtown L.A. nightclub, The Cicada Club, in a period building, has a special 1940's weekend and many people who go to the Air Raid event go there as well for dinner and dancing.

Here's the announcement for this past February's event:
(They left the 75th ANniversary part, but the 75th was last year.)
(http://www.theairraid.com/2018-AIR-RAID-WEB-BANNER.jpg)

If you search Great Los Angeles Air Raid of 1942 re-enactment or such, there's quite a few
videos online. I chose a couple if anyone's interested. (The Air Raid part sounds very tame
and much quieter on the youtube videos!)

This is a youtube video from last year when I went. The first part is photographs of the event throughout the day.
It sure gives you the sense of the time period that was on display. The last couple minutes is the Air Raid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OdZor5Yvjo


This video is from 2012. It shows the dance band area at night.
I chose this one because at about :55 it shows a couple men dancing together.
At about 1:40 the MC stops the music to calm down a brawl between some army guys.
(Staged I imagine though I don't know for sure.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnZQEcXWf0s

Anyone want to go with me next year?
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 20, 2018, 11:17:55 AM

--All the Money in the World

Gattaca and Oilgun saw this film awhile ago and commented on it in the recent film thread:


Quote
gattaca on December 27, 2017, 10:13:11 AM »
Saw "All the Money in the World" last night and thought Scott's work re-shooting all the scenes replacing Spacey with Plummer absolutely amazing.  As for the film, it's really hard to like this film which strives so hard to make us not-like the Getty family, regardless of this story's basis in reality.   It seems the positive outcomes from Getty's empire are the Getty Art holdings in LA. 

Michele Williams's performance is absolutely outstanding.  We may be watching another Oscar nomination for her for sure.

The story also takes liberty with some elements post story which seem relevant - but Scott had to stop somewhere. 

I really cannot recommend this film outside of watching William's (and Christopher Plummer's) performance - unless you want to be subjected to a repeated triage about the 0.01%...

Cheers, V.


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oilgun on January 28, 2018, 02:35:18 PM »
All the Money in the World I mainly went to see how successful the whole Spacey/Plummer switch turned out but ended up quite enjoying it. Thanks mostly to Michelle William's and Christopher Plummer's performances. Also, French actor Romain Duris is excellent as one of the kidnappers. As for the horribly miscast Mark Whalberg I agree with this reviewer's comment: "If Scott was replacing stars, he might as well have yanked Wahlberg while he was at it."    It's not a great film but it is effective and in today's climate it makes you want to take the guillotines out of storage.


I enjoyed this film and thought Michelle Williams was very good in it. Frankly, I think Kevin Spacey would have been better in the role than Christopher Plummer and I wonder if there'll be a time "that" film will ever see the light of day, simply for the unusual situation where we have the same film, but one part is played by two different people.

(Just a thought that occurred to me: If that version were to be screened in a theater sometime, would Spacey be eligible for a nomination?)

On the dvd there is a short extra about recasting the film and reshooting the part with a different actor. What i thought was insidious about this
was that this segment does not explain the reason for doing it. At some point if people watch this segment you would not know why they did it.
This elimination of people's lives as though they never existed is an abhorrent idea to me, akin to book burning, as an example.

People like Kevin Spacey, Charlie Rose and Al Franken have all disappeared from the face of the earth after being high profile persons in their
respective fields. Same with Kathy Griffin and Billy Bush. The worst of all, though, gets a pass to sit in the White House, not to mention dozens
of others in the administration who deserve to disappear.

The Bible verse comes to mind:

Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:
and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest
thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine
own eye?



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Post by: morrobay on April 21, 2018, 05:40:31 PM
On tonight...

Makes the Brad Pitt one look pathetic...as if anyone could do a decent remake to follow Sinatra, Davis Jr, Martin, Lawford, even Bishop...

One and only...

Ocean's Eleven (1960)
Veterans of the 82nd Airborne Division devise an elaborate plot to simultaneously rob five casinos on New Year's Eve.

Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis Jr., Peter Lawford, Angie Dickinson

9:00 - 11:15 PM TCM (64)
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Post by: oilgun on April 23, 2018, 08:44:54 PM
Has anyone seen I Feel Pretty? Apparently Michelle Williams steals every scene she's in. Some critics are even predicting a supporting actress Oscar nomination for her role as makeup magnate Avery LeClair.

http://www.indiewire.com/2018/04/i-feel-pretty-michelle-williams-part-avery-leclair-1201955305/


_________________

I recently saw Lynn Ramsay's You were Never Really Here. It features an amazing performance by Joaquin Phoenix but, man, her movies are grim.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 24, 2018, 07:29:28 AM
What i thought was insidious about this was that this segment does not explain the reason for doing it.

I sympathize with your feelings, Lyle, but until Spacey is actually convicted of something, I suspect they would open themselves up to a libel suit if they said the film was recast and reshot because of the accusations against Spacey.

So as best I understand things, I presume they had compelling legal reasons for not saying anything.

(I don't really follow this sordid stuff. Has Spacey been legally charged with anything anywhere? Is anyone currently suing him in a civil action?)
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Post by: Flyboy on April 24, 2018, 07:38:06 AM
I watched Midnight in Paris the other night. Owen Wilson looked like his feet hurt the entire movie, his walk was odd, maybe he wasn't used to walking on Paris streets? I don't know, but I really liked the guy who played Ernest Hemingway, a gorgeous Man, for sure! anyway, certainly not a serious film at all, but it kept my interest to the end. I'm always fascinated by Owen's nose! LOL.....
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 24, 2018, 09:22:18 AM
Hi, Jeff,

It doesn't seem to me they'd be under any legal problems just to mention the reasons
they reshot the film sequences without Spacey. The way they present it on the segment
it's like a big secret, like they're hiding something. The fact everyone currently knows the
reason makes it more absurd.

As for the allegations and subsequent circumstances, who knows about any of the people
who've disappeared the past year, from the major to the minor.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 24, 2018, 09:33:45 AM
It doesn't seem to me they'd be under any legal problems just to mention the reasons
they reshot the film sequences without Spacey. The way they present it on the segment
it's like a big secret, like they're hiding something. The fact everyone currently knows the
reason makes it more absurd.

Well, I'm not a lawyer, but I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I still think it likely that any direct mention of the accusations against Kevin Spacey would have been avoided as a legal protection. They can't be sued for libel for something they didn't say.

If Spacey is convicted of something, that's another matter. The conviction would be a matter of public record--public legal record, not just what everyone knows--and truth is a protection against libel.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 24, 2018, 09:58:45 AM

Okay, I disagree. Especially since they discuss it on the official movie site.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 24, 2018, 09:59:09 AM

Jonn, I love MIDNIGHT IN PARIS and have seen it several times. Frankly, I never noticed
anything peculiar about the way Owen Wilson was walking. I had noticed his nose on occasion!

The actor who played Hemingway is Corey Stoll. You've probably seen him in any number of series
on TV. At the time Midnight in Paris came out he was one of the stars of the one season Law & Order:
Los Angeles and I didn't even recognize it was him in Midnight in Paris because, although only in his
mid-thirties at the time, he's pretty much bald. So the full head of hair threw me!

Right now he just finished shooting the film First Man, playing another real life person, Buzz Aldrin.
It's a movie about Neil Armstrong (Ryan Gosling) directed by Damien Chazelle (La La Land) and is
scheduled to be released on Columbus Day.

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Post by: Flyboy on April 24, 2018, 07:43:14 PM
Lyle, since I don't watch that much series TV anymore, I probably wouldn't have recognized him. I'll have to look up his bio. I used to watch L&O, SVU, with the lovely Chris Meloni, but that was way back when......LOL!!

So, okay, you didn't notice Owen's walk....? Probably just a quirk of mine that it bothered me......his body never seemed relaxed just walking along....

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Post by: gattaca on April 29, 2018, 04:33:56 PM
Well, when she tells him she's pregnant this thought crosses everyone's mind in the audience, but you aren't suggesting that people weren't still going to have sex were you? The spectre of AIDS at its height didn't deter many people from not having sex, did it?
...
As for that nail, yes, one wonders why that wasn't addressed immediately, but am I wrong, but I thought so much was happening at that point that it had to be let go and hopefully dealt with asap, though it wasn't.

Yes!  Saw this a couple weekends ago.  Loved the drama and loved the intensity.  Actually earned a poster slot on my office wall...where I rotate thru films I enjoyed immensely.   (Bladerunner 2049,  Arrival, Guardians of the Galaxy 2, ... )
Yeap, their baby was an effective ploy to really drive home the OH CRAP... WTH... experience.  You are so right. Would we really expect them to stop "making babies"... LOL. It is indeed 90 minutes of on-your-seat suspense.  One review below calls it a "nerve-shredder" - )@(@*@(* accurate.

As for that damn nail... think about how much noise it would have made trying to removed it.. it's like another bread crumb of terror just egging you into that shredder.. who or what will step on it or not?

Ebert's site --> https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/a-quiet-place-2018
LA Times --> http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-a-quiet-place-review-20180405-story.html
Rotten --> https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/a_quiet_place_2018

SPOILER ON...


OK when the father yelled out to save his kids from being eaten... I nearly cried... it was just one of those pressure points blowing.
SPOILER OFF

V.
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Post by: gattaca on April 29, 2018, 04:48:20 PM
OK, just saw "The Avengers: Infinity War" at the IMAX in 3D.   The place was packed and sold out all weekend.

Now that I have read a few reviews, they tend to be marveled more at what they packed into the 160 minutes than the film itself.  Tying up loose ends for 76 Marvel characters is quite an undertaking along with everyone wondering where is so-and-so?   If you are not a Marvel fan and have not seen most of the prior works, then this film is NOT for you.  You will be totally lost. 

It's pretty much non-stop action coupled with some friendly humor and bantering among all those triple-AAA personalities. The humor I found the most entertaining.  The CGI special effects are well done.  It's interesting where the final battle scene took place and you could see some of this coming for miles. 

I do NOT think I'd go see it again, at least not in the theaters, b/c it was loud and louder. I might catch it at home on RedBox with captions on b/c some of that humor and  banter got lost in the noise as well as audience reactions.    It's just OK for me as a film. 

Ebert's site -> https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/avengers-infinity-war-2018
LA Times --> http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-avengers-infinity-war-box-office-20180429-story.html
Rotten --> https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/avengers_infinity_war

SPOILERS ON



However as one reviewer put it, I felt like I was going to a massive funeral of the Marvel Universe. 

SPOILERS OFF
V.
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Post by: Gazapete on April 30, 2018, 11:08:31 AM
I watched "Les Miserables" and am stilled stunned by Anne Hathaway's acting, wow.
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Post by: oilgun on April 30, 2018, 07:47:20 PM
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w197/oilgun/Therider-01_zpsoyqvlzon.jpg)

Just saw The Rider (D.: Chloé Zhao). What a wonderful film! It's the story of a young rodeo rider who gets a severe concussion while competing and is told he can no longer rodeo or even ride horses and his subsequent search for meaning and purpose. It's based on true events and the characters are all played by the actual people who experienced them. The director got amazing performances from the cast, all non-actors. The lead, Brady Jandreau, is astonishingly good.

‘Rider,’ an elegiac portrait of a wounded cowboy, mixes fact and fiction
By Walter Addiego

Viewers of Chloé Zhao’s intense, elegiac “The Rider” could easily assume they are watching a documentary. They aren’t, but what they see isn’t entirely fictional, either. This meditation on the life of a severely injured rodeo rider is a kind of hybrid, fact and fiction mixed in such a way that the two deepen and extend each other.

The main character, Brady, is a young rodeo cowboy of Lakota heritage who suffered a devastating accident — he was trampled by a horse during competition. He has a steel plate in his head and has been told that his riding days are through. The character’s name is Brady Blackburn, and he is portrayed by Brady Jandreau, a non-actor who suffered the same accident with the same results.

[...]

The nice thing about “The Rider” is that Zhao never succumbs to the temptation to reduce Brady’s story to something easy to encapsulate or sell to an audience (or studio, or festival). The movie is a rendering of the internal landscape of a contemporary cowboy, with the complexities and ambiguities left intact. It’s a kind of parable, delivered in a manner that has nothing to do with preaching.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/movies/article/Rider-an-elegiac-portrait-of-a-wounded-12845875.php
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 01, 2018, 07:05:45 AM
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w197/oilgun/Therider-01_zpsoyqvlzon.jpg)

Just saw The Rider (D.: Chloé Zhao). What a wonderful film! It's the story of a young rodeo rider who gets a severe concussion while competing and is told he can no longer rodeo or even ride horses and his subsequent search for meaning and purpose. It's based on true events and the characters are all played by the actual people who experienced them. The director got amazing performances from the cast, all non-actors. The lead, Brady Jandreau, is astonishingly good.

I've read a very favorable review, especially concerning the use of "non-actors" in the roles.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 01, 2018, 09:55:24 AM

--Pitch Perfect 3

If you liked the first two...

This one is almost like a scene at the end of the credits of a movie,
a long "here's a little something else for you, before we go/move on..." type of thing.

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 01, 2018, 10:21:17 AM

Someone recommended a Mae West movie to me that I've not seen a couple months ago
and I thought I found it, but it turned out to be the wrong title. Then my friends wanted to
watch a Mae West movie last Sunday, also not the recommended one, but I saw two Mae
West movies this week.

--Belle of the Nineties

In this one she's a nightclub sensation who shifts her operations from St. Louis to New Orleans,
to get away from a man who's bothering her, basically. But he follows her to New Orleans where,
as the top act at the Sensations Club, she gets involved with gamblers and tries to turn the tables
on them. It was decent enough, but her famous one liners were few and far between and the songs
she sang weren't very memorable.

--Goin' to Town

This one was a hoot frombeginning to end. Mae plays Cleo Borden, who inherits a fortune and a
ranch, and tries to woo the English man running the oil wells on her property by becoming a lady.
She, of course, becomes rivals with a high society lady, tries to gain social position by a loveless
marriage to a bankrupt man named Colton, who happens to be related to the high society lady,
and Mae even sings a song from an opera.

This one has Mae's trademark repartee galore, made even more amusing because of her female
rival who's offended at just about everything Mae (Cleo) does.

Here's a sampling of some of the dialogue:

(Mae is Cleo.)

Ivan: My darling, my sweet, my lovely one!
Cleo: Never mind that. I got all the oil I want.
Ivan: Darling, I just found out that it's you I'm in love with. You are the only one for me, after all.
Cleo: After all what?
Ivan: Oh, darling, I love you! I must have you! Marry me!
Cleo: Listen, I-van, you're all right to play around with, but as a husband you'll get in my hair.
Ivan: But, darling...!
Cleo: Besides, we're intellectual opposites.
Ivan: What do you mean?
Cleo: Well, I'm intellectual and you're opposite.
Ivan: Let me tell you - I'm an aristocrat and the backbone of my family.
Cleo: Well, your family ought to see a chiropractor.

____________________

And a couple others:

Winslow: All right, I suppose I'll have to stay and look after the cattle and the men for you.
Cleo: Just the cattle. I'll take care of the men.
_____

Cleo: I guess these guys must be gentlemen. They all got white shirts on.
Winslow: Clothes alone don't make the gentleman.
Cleo: I've found that out.
_____

Society Lady: Speaking of relatives, Cleo, have your ancestors ever been traced?
Cleo: Well, yes. But they were too smart. They couldn't catch'em.
_____

Cleo: Yeah, for a long time I was ashamed of the way I lived.
Young Fellow: You mean to say you reformed?
Cleo: No, I got over being ashamed.
_____

Gonzales: With any other dame, I wouldn't give a hoot. When it comes to you, I'm dynamite!
Cleo: Yes, and I'm your match.

LOL!!!

When I first came to Los Angeles, for about six months there were hot pink billboards all around the city, with a caricature of Mae West in the center and big letters across the top that only said "MAE IS COMING!" I kept wondering what that was all about. Turned out to be for the movie that she did called SEXTETTE.

That movie has my favorite Mae West line ever in it:

MAE:  "I'm the gal that works at Paramount all day and Fox all night."    :o
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Post by: Sara B on May 01, 2018, 03:40:45 PM
I saw The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society, from the book which I also enjoyed. It’s set in occupied Guernsey during and just after the war, quite harrowing in places but overall upbeat and romantic. It’s been very popular in Britain.

https://youtu.be/HTDNGv61-Dk (https://youtu.be/HTDNGv61-Dk)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 02, 2018, 10:19:18 AM

Sara, I could have sworn that my (BAFTA) friend and I watched a British TV film a few years ago
with this same title, or maybe it was about the same thing but a different title, but I can't
find anything about that online right now. Do you know what I'm talking about? I hope so.
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Post by: Sara B on May 02, 2018, 11:56:51 AM
Afraid not!
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 02, 2018, 01:13:47 PM

I wonder if my friend loaned me the book of The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society
and I read it?  Because it is entirely familiar to me and I'm picturing it. Odd that I would remember
reading the book as having a viewing experience, though that would signify some nice writing by
the author!


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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 02, 2018, 01:31:42 PM
P.S.: Yes, it was the book I'd actually read that my friend recommended.
So, you liked the film? Good. NetFlix has picked it up for the U.S., so I don't
know if that means it'll be just for viewing on their streaming platform or if
it'll get a theatrical release. On IMDB there is no release date scheduled for
the U.S. theaters.
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Post by: Sara B on May 02, 2018, 02:45:53 PM
I wonder if my friend loaned me the book of The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society
and I read it?  Because it is entirely familiar to me and I'm picturing it. Odd that I would remember
reading the book as having a viewing experience, though that would signify some nice writing by
the author!

 :). Sounds as if you remember the book better than me! I must read it again sometime.

Lily James is the main character in the film, and I’d recently seen her in Darkest Hour. And in the trailers with The Guernsey etc they showed Mamma Mia 2 or whatever it’s going to be called, and Lily James plays the young Merrill Streep.
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Post by: oilgun on May 04, 2018, 04:58:53 PM
Recently I also watched:

The Death of Stalin (Armando Iannucci) was very funny in a old fashioned Mel Brooksian kind of way. A mix of slap-stick comedy to horrific violence.

From RT
The one-liners fly as fast as political fortunes fall in this uproarious, wickedly irreverent satire from Armando Iannucci (Veep, In the Loop). Moscow, 1953: when tyrannical dictator Joseph Stalin drops dead, his parasitic cronies square off in a frantic power struggle to be the next Soviet leader. Among the contenders are the dweeby Georgy Malenkov (Jeffrey Tambor), the wily Nikita Khrushchev (Steve Buscemi), and the sadistic secret police chief Lavrentiy Beria (Simon Russell Beale). But as they bumble, brawl, and backstab their way to the top, just who is running the government? Combining palace intrigue with rapid-fire farce, this audacious comedy is a bitingly funny takedown of bureaucratic dysfunction performed to the hilt by a sparkling ensemble cast.

You Were Never Really Here (Lynne Ramsey) is an arty existential and relentlessly grim exercise remiscent of Taxi Driver. Joaquin Phoenix's performance is intense and disturbing.

From RT:
A traumatized veteran, unafraid of violence, tracks down missing girls for a living. When a job spins out of control, Joe's nightmares overtake him as a conspiracy is uncovered leading to what may be his death trip or his awakening.
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Post by: B.W. on May 05, 2018, 12:12:28 AM
--The Unsinkable Molly Brown

I'd never seen a full widescreen version of this film before until last night. I saw it on TV back in the day and the VHS pan & scan version.
I was also familiar with the Broadway Cast Album with Tammy Grimes (Tony winner) in the lead role.

I've never seen a stage production, but something tells me it has to work better than the movie version. I liked some of it, but overall the
movie feels a lot longer than the running time would suggest. It's a little over two hours without the Overture and Exit music. The first big
problem is Debbie Reynolds in the first third of the film. She plays the character almost in full caffeine mode that there's nowhere to escape.
The songs she sings during this time are some of the best in the film, but for some reason she screams all of them. Knowing that they always
pre-recorded the songs for playback while filming, you have to ask why this was. They have musical directors and vocal people at these sessions
and surely they wouldn't have wanted her to sing these songs in a yelling mode. If she was advised to do this, it was a really bad decision. It
just feels downright unnatural.

Then there's Harve Presnell. He has a beautiful voice, but he comes across odd-looking for much of this film. Also, that voice seems at odd
with his character, even though the same kind of singing voices were heard in Oklahoma, which didn't jar from that film. The songs in this
film also don't blend well with the story in between them. It always seems the story is a weight to overcome until you get to the next song,
and it's often an uphill battle. It seemed there was one segment without any songs for at least twenty minutes.

Opening up the stage version to show lavish sets and scenery doesn't seem to work here, either. The film is really about the characters, but it
too often is overwhelmed by the production values.

Watching the film is a very uneven experience.

It was nominated for six Academy Awards, including Debbie Reynolds, who is good in the second half of the film, but uneven overall.
This same year Audrey Hepburn was famously not nominated for her role in My Fair Lady. Part of the reason talked about was because
many thought it unfair Julie Andrews didn't get the part, but also because her singing voice was dubbed. I'd have given the nomination
to Audrey dubbed than Debbie not dubbed. Though it is nice that Debbie got a nomination, her only one in her career.

Interestingly, Molly Brown did not win any of it's Oscar nominations and those categories all went to the two other musical films
that year, My Fair Lady or Mary Poppins.  Molly Brown was nominated in these categories:

BEST ACTRESS
ART DIRECTION (Color)
CINEMATOGRAPHY (Color)
COSTUME DESIGN (Color)
MUSIC (Scoring of Music--adaptation or treatment)
SOUND



It's so tragic that Debbie Reynolds and Carrie Fisher died within just one day of each other.  I loved Kathy Bates' performance as Molly Brown in James Cameron's "Titanic" (1997).
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Post by: Flyboy on May 06, 2018, 09:18:04 AM
I watched God's Own Country last night. Hmmmm....more than a few scenes looked like a copycat of BBM, IMHO, you understand. I couldn't understand MOST of the dialogue from John and his Father, which could be my hearing loss issues. Overall, I liked the film, and course, loved the ending!!  :D :D :D
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Post by: killersmom on May 06, 2018, 10:55:37 AM
You need to watch it with the closed captioning on Jonn. This is the only way most of us were able to understand the dialogue. I can't hear low tones, so this is the reason I watch most movies with CC, but I would have had to anyway because of not being able to understand the dialect.
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Post by: Sara B on May 06, 2018, 11:15:58 AM
I watched God's Own Country last night. Hmmmm....more than a few scenes looked like a copycat of BBM, IMHO, you understand. I couldn't understand MOST of the dialogue from John and his Father, which could be my hearing loss issues. Overall, I liked the film, and course, loved the ending!!  :D :D :D

I don’t think it’s a copycat, Jonn, so much as a deliberate homage. When I saw it in the cinema on my own I was between an elderly straight couple (well, probably my age LOL) and a younger gay couple, and I wanted to grab them and shout! "Look - that’s another Brokeback reference!”
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Post by: gattaca on May 06, 2018, 03:24:40 PM
I don’t think it’s a copycat, Jonn, so much as a deliberate homage. When I saw it in the cinema on my own I was between an elderly straight couple (well, probably my age LOL) and a younger gay couple, and I wanted to grab them and shout! "Look - that’s another Brokeback reference!”
Ditto.. Lots of BBM homages in there...  Very nicely done and most will blow past a lot of folks (other than those in this forum..) LOL.  V.
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Post by: Gazapete on May 07, 2018, 03:06:38 AM
I don’t think it’s a copycat, Jonn, so much as a deliberate homage. When I saw it in the cinema on my own I was between an elderly straight couple (well, probably my age LOL) and a younger gay couple, and I wanted to grab them and shout! "Look - that’s another Brokeback reference!”

I know! The same happened to me!  :laugh:

I agree more with John, thought. It was a little too much for a homage.
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Post by: Sara B on May 07, 2018, 03:14:36 AM
I know what you mean, but it didn’t really worry me, as Johnny and Gheorghe were so much their own selves. Of course it must have been deliberate, and I wonder if it was to show, in a comparable English setting, how things have moved on? The only homophobia was in the pub, where it actually seemed more like xenophobia - from ignorant rural Aholes who were afraid of anyone different. Neither J nor G seemed particularly bothered about who knew about them.
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Post by: Gazapete on May 07, 2018, 03:42:31 AM
I know what you mean, but it didn’t really worry me, as Johnny and Gheorghe were so much their own selves. Of course it must have been deliberate, and I wonder if it was to show, in a comparable English setting, how things have moved on? The only homophobia was in the pub, where it actually seemed more like xenophobia - from ignorant rural Aholes who were afraid of anyone different. Neither J nor G seemed particularly bothered about who knew about them.
Yes, that's the feeling I got, as if they were writing AU fanfic. What would happen if...?
I'm pretty sure the incident in the pub was a racist one. And the father comes to terms with Johnny's life at the end. Nice..., I wish John Twist had also been so understanding.
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Post by: Sara B on May 07, 2018, 03:45:25 AM
Yes, that's the feeling I got, as if they were writing AU fanfic. What would happen if...?
I'm pretty sure the incident in the pub was a racist one. And the father comes to terms with Johnny's life at the end. Nice..., I wish John Twist had also been so understanding.

At the same time it was very gritty and down to earth. Not over-romanticised, but it was lovely how Johnny was changed by Gheorghe's gentleness. (Though he could be tough when driven to it!)
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Post by: brian on May 13, 2018, 02:08:38 PM
I saw The Guernsey Literary and Potato Peel Pie Society yesterday with my film group. Unfortunately I could not talk about it with anyone afterwards as, while they all went for coffee, I hurried to the cathedral for the ordination of a dear woman friend as priest. My sister will probably not see it either as she does not go to the movies alone, her husband would not be interested and her best friend with whom she regularly goes to the movies, was born in Germany and did not migrate to Australia until a teenager in the late 40's. She will not go to any movie about the war. It must be difficult as she is very proud of her German culture and this film is very anti German.
I enjoyed it, although it was very sad in places. It felt like Downton Abbey revisited as so many of the actors were in that series although it is nothing like it. I found Michiel Huisman very attractive. Apparently he was in Game of Thrones but I never watched that. The only film he was in that I have seen was "The Young Victoria" and that was a long time ago.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 14, 2018, 10:15:47 AM
--Peter Rabbit

An enjoyable take on the famous story with a lot of slapstick humor and over the top sight gags.
I knew it was animated, but I didn't know it was like Babe, in that the humans were actually human.
In the quieter moments the rabbits were quite charming. Purists might be offended, but it was given
a thumbs up by the Potter people.


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Post by: killersmom on May 14, 2018, 04:29:38 PM
Margot Kidder, Actress Who Played Lois Lane In ‘Superman,’ Dead At 69

https://tinyurl.com/yd34d88z


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Post by: oilgun on May 14, 2018, 07:23:19 PM
Margot Kidder, Actress Who Played Lois Lane In ‘Superman,’ Dead At 69

https://tinyurl.com/yd34d88z

I loved her in Black Christmas (1974).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMqvsVU3luQ
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Post by: Gazapete on May 14, 2018, 10:37:30 PM
Margot Kidder, Actress Who Played Lois Lane In ‘Superman,’ Dead At 69

https://tinyurl.com/yd34d88z

 :(

I just recently watched Superman with my little one, and he loved it. Now both of them are gone. At least we still have Gene Hackman.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 15, 2018, 07:34:58 AM
I always like the first Superman movie the best, although I never liked the ending.

It seems odd even to me that I should find the ending of a superhero movie "implausible," but I guess there is only so far I can "suspend my disbelief."

I really liked her in a non-Superman movie from 1983: Trenchcoat.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086476/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_98 (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086476/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_98)

Of course, it helped that back in those days, I thought her co-star, Robert Hays, was really cute.

I should try to hunt that down on video.
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Post by: Gazapete on May 15, 2018, 07:39:45 AM
I also liked Robert Hays, but for all the wrong reasons! I don't know how many times we watched Airplane!  :laugh:
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Post by: Flyboy on May 15, 2018, 07:46:39 PM
OMG!! Airplane!!  :o   One of the CLASSICS, IMHO, you understand?! Love that film...... :D :D :D
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Post by: Gazapete on May 15, 2018, 10:05:38 PM
OMG!! Airplane!!  :o   One of the CLASSICS, IMHO, you understand?! Love that film...... :D :D :D

I watched it again at Christmas with my parents and the kids and my father was again hollering with laughter  :D. Even my little one, who is 8 and probably (luckily) did not understand half of the jokes, wouldn't stop talking about the movie for days.

"I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue."

I should make that my introduction line!
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Post by: Flyboy on May 16, 2018, 07:08:57 AM
Bwwwaaahhaaa!! that line would be hilarious!!

The 8 yr old? Hmmmm...yeah, hopefully didn't get all the jokes.......Me, oh My!  :D
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Post by: Gazapete on May 16, 2018, 07:18:59 AM
Bwwwaaahhaaa!! that line would be hilarious!!

The 8 yr old? Hmmmm...yeah, hopefully didn't get all the jokes.......Me, oh My!  :D

I don't think I was much older when I saw it for the first time. And Ghostbusters, or Indiana Jones, or even Poltergeist (well, maybe I was older for this one). And they didn't traumatise me (too much). I have the feeling that today movies for kids are sooo childish and PC that sometimes they treat them as if they were babys. Anyway, he had a blast with Airplane  :laugh:
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 16, 2018, 10:18:20 AM
^^^

Peter Rabbit isn't like that.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 16, 2018, 10:31:50 AM

Oh, and Airplane!

I remember the summer it was going to come out we had gone to see a comedy
and they showed a trailer for AIrplane! and the trailer itself was so amusing that
the movie we came to see was a complete letdown. If memory serves it was a
movie called Wholly Moses.

By the way, with everything that's gone on since Airplane! came out, I really think
they could remake it or do another one. Just think of the list of things that could be
spoofed and made light of...people being dragged off flights, missing airplanes, Sully,
security pat downs (TSA), underwear bombers, emotional support animals,
people getting sucked out of planes, carry on baggage rules...

I also still remember some hilarious scenes from Airplane 2.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 16, 2018, 10:36:31 AM

Speaking of missing airplanes, there's a new series coming on next season
called Manifest.  The premise: A plane lands in New York City...much to the
surprise of everyone as it had vanished five years ago and not heard from
since.
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Post by: Gazapete on May 16, 2018, 11:18:24 AM
Oh, and Airplane!

I remember the summer it was going to come out we had gone to see a comedy
and they showed a trailer for AIrplane! and the trailer itself was so amusing that
the movie we came to see was a complete letdown. If memory serves it was a
movie called Wholly Moses.

By the way, with everything that's gone on since Airplane! came out, I really think
they could remake it or do another one. Just think of the list of things that could be
spoofed and made light of...people being dragged off flights, missing airplanes, Sully,
security pat downs (TSA), underwear bombers, emotional support animals,
people getting sucked out of planes, carry on baggage rules...

I also still remember some hilarious scenes from Airplane 2.

All those things they couldn't even imagine happening when they made the first one! Do you think they would dare to do that movie today? Today they wouldn't even dare to do the first one!
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Post by: Gazapete on May 16, 2018, 11:19:23 AM
Speaking of missing airplanes, there's a new series coming on next season
called Manifest.  The premise: A plane lands in New York City...much to the
surprise of everyone as it had vanished five years ago and not heard from
since.

Sounds intriguing.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 16, 2018, 11:54:44 AM
^^^

It does, but...

Seems like there's at least one of these every season, something with an intriguing premise, but the shows always seem to drag the premise out by not revealing much...they end each episode with a question and you keep watching and come to a point where you just want to know what's going on...and then when you find out it seems like a letdown.

For example, A recent one that was on was called The Whispers. I watched it every week that summer and was enjoying it, but when they got to the last couple episodes and we were finding out what went on, the journey didn't seem worth it.

I think a lot of these kinds of shows make a good premise for a movie, but week to week is another thing. Especially if they feel they want to keep going as a series.  That applies to Quantico, which I liked most of the first season, but by the end of the season I gave up.

Part of the problem is that when one of these type of shows catches on, it seems like they haven't planned out where they're going and it feels like it. I loved the premise of "24" when it first came on and the first 10-12 episodes were good, then all of a sudden it seemed to lose direction when it got picked up for the whole season, like they hadn't planned what to do and were playing it by ear, which is why I never watched it after that season.

I remember I wasn't going to watch Prison Break when it first came on because of that idea, until I read that the creators had planned it out for a full two seasons.  It was great! It lasted 3 season and last year they had a 9 episode revival.

I know this is the movie thread, so let me tie this together with repeating that I think a lot of the series with these premises would make better stand alone movies than continuing series. For example, imagine if the recent film A Quiet Place, had been the premise of a series.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 16, 2018, 12:27:05 PM
Speaking of missing airplanes, there's a new series coming on next season
called Manifest.  The premise: A plane lands in New York City...much to the
surprise of everyone as it had vanished five years ago and not heard from
since.

Vaguely reminds me of a Twilight Zone episode where a plane disappears and actually goes back in time!
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Post by: Gazapete on May 16, 2018, 01:55:11 PM
Vaguely reminds me of a Twilight Zone episode where a plane disappears and actually goes back in time!

Wasn't there a Spielberg movie where something like that happened? Or was it people abducted by aliens that came back to the earth? I have a vague image of a WW2 soldier stepping down from a plane in the present.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 16, 2018, 02:05:51 PM
Wasn't there a Spielberg movie where something like that happened? Or was it people abducted by aliens that came back to the earth? I have a vague image of a WW2 soldier stepping down from a plane in the present.

That happens near the very end of Close Encounters of the Third Kind. That is a Spielberg film.
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Post by: Gazapete on May 16, 2018, 02:10:47 PM
That happens near the very end of Close Encounters of the Third Kind. That is a Spielberg film.

Is it from it? I remember that scene, but have another thing in mind, of a soldier coming back and staying and his life after coming back. Close Encounters ends there. But maybe I am remembering wrong...
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 16, 2018, 02:32:22 PM
Is it from it? I remember that scene, but have another thing in mind, of a soldier coming back and staying and his life after coming back. Close Encounters ends there. But maybe I am remembering wrong...

I doubt you're remembering wrong. This is probably just something I'm not familiar with.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 18, 2018, 11:23:26 AM

--Callaway Went Thataway

Someone recommended this little trifle from 1951.  I hate to mention what it's about because I came to it
without any knowledge of it and much of what I saw and enjoyed benefitted from me not knowing a thing.

I will say it stars Fred MacMurray and Dorothy Maguire and Howard Keel. I just read a synopsis of it online
and they tell you things that I wouldn't have wanted to know. So, what to say? It's a comedy. It's 81 minutes.
If you like westerns, you'd like it, though if you don't you would, too, because it's not really a western, though
the western milieu is prevalent.

What I read about it online would have made me want to see it, but I'd miss out on being surprised at several things
that would've lessened my enjoyment, so, there you have it.

Oh, Natalie Schafer (Mrs. Howell) has a little role in it, too!

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Post by: killersmom on May 18, 2018, 12:56:48 PM
I am going to see "Book Club" this weekend, as it really appeals to me because of the age similarity of the women to my age. I'll let you know if it is as good as it looks and I hope it will be.
I had this same feeling when saw the trailers for "The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel", 1 & 2, "Ladies in Lavender", "Hello My Name is Doris", and "The Quartet". They are serious, funny, and gentle stories of 'mature' women. I loved all of these.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 18, 2018, 01:03:45 PM
I am going to see "Book Club" this weekend.

I never see anything anymore, but what a marvelous cast!
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Post by: killersmom on May 18, 2018, 03:58:26 PM
I never see anything anymore, but what a marvelous cast!

YES, Jeff! Another reason I want to see it!
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 20, 2018, 12:32:23 PM

--Royal Wedding

As I mentioned on the current events thread, I wonder why this was the choice of our (mostly) weekly
movie night with some friends?  :laugh:

What most people remember about this film is the dance sequence where Fred Astaire dances around the
room, up to the ceiling and back down again.  It's a great number. But--can anyone remember the song he
is dancing to? I'll bet not.  It's "You're All the World to Me." In fact, if I wrote down the titles of all of the songs
in this film, I bet you wouldn't recall any of them. This is one musical where you remember the dance numbers,
but not the songs attached to them.

Some of the other nice dance sequences: one is Fred Astaire dancing with a coat rack, heh!  The other is
a sequence with him and Jane Powell dancing in the cruise ship's ballroom and the floor keeps tilting around
as though the ship is being tossed in some heavy seas.  It's quite entertaining.

The film itself isn't really "about" the Royal Wedding at the time. It's about a brother sister dance team (Astaire
and Powell) and their NY show is to travel and open in London at the time of the Royal Wedding. We learn that
both of them have several relationships they're leaving behind, but they find what they think is their one and
only in London.

While much of the movie is entertaining, it does have a lot of problems. First, most all of the songs are just inserted
into the film as numbers from their musical, Every Night at Seven, that they're taking to Britain. As such, they do
not serve to move the story forward and so often, while they might be entertaining, they also seem like interruptions
and fall flat. One of these is a song reminiscent of "A Couple of Swells" in Easter Parade and is considered the longest
song title in all of MGM's musicals: "How Could You Believe Me When I Said I Love You When You Know I've Been a Liar All My Life".
Astaire's costume in this number is maybe one of the only misfires in MGM musical costuming history. Jane Powell's
is fine, but Astaire wears a pair of pants with the waist up to his nipples. Quite noticeable because of the contrasting
colors of his shirt and pants. Then, he has on an oversize coat that seems completely inconsistent color-wise and it's
a jarring and incomprehensible thing to watch. (I believe it's known as houndstooth.) I don't get it. I am sure there
must be a reason for it as there's always a reason for whatever is done in a movie. Whatever it was, tough, it didn't
work. I found a photo of it:

(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/c7/e0/86/c7e0866e824e0c76cf349ecc482b26ab.jpg)

Also, Astaire & Powell play brother and sister, but in the show they're playing a romantic couple and it
comes off as very creepy a lot of the time. Their relationship also seems more like "they'd" rather be
together than off dating other people, which is also creepy. The title of the film, too, is really peripheral
to the movie plot, so it's a bit of a cheat, but it's also more interesting than much of the actual plot.

Their romantic interests in the film are Peter Lawford and Sarah Churchill. They give the film some style,
but aren't given much else to do. Lawford is always charming and usually given one number (he's not
a singer) but here he's given little. Sarah Churchill has one nice dancing segment and little else, but
her personality shines through. She was the second daughter of Winston Churchill. If you read about
her, her life was eventful, but mostly sounds sad, as though she didn't know what to do with her life.

You can forgive a lot of the film's problems, though, as it doesn't outstay it's welcome at about 90 minutes.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 20, 2018, 01:19:50 PM
I skipped it for a change, but TCM showed Desk Set last night.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 20, 2018, 02:37:12 PM

--The Sting

I also watched this film when I got back home last night.  I watch it occasionally, it's one of my favorite films.
It's the norm now to find films presented in their original aspect ratios. They aren't cropped or pan & scanned.

This film was, of course, released on VHS and so, sometime when there was going to be a DVD release of the film
there was a lot of people commenting online about wanting the film to be released in widescreen as it was shown
in theaters. The usual "because you will then be able to see the whole picture as it was meant to be seen and like it
was in theatres," were talked about and makes perfect sense. But then there were some people commenting in
response to these things about this film and it took me quite awhile to understand what they were talking about.

Apparently, the director of The Sting, George Roy Hill, wanted to make this film as though it was one of those 1930's
old-fashoined good-time 35mm films. You know those films are pretty much are like a square box on your TV's.  They
aren't widescreen.  And George Roy Hill shot the film that way. Of course, Universal Studios was adamantly opposed
to that. They wanted the film to fit the current standards of wider/widescreen theaters.

So, to do this, the originally shot film was matted at the top and bottom to release this film in the wide-screen format for
theatres. When the film was to be shown on TV, on our old TV's that were a 4:3 ratio, most films would show up with
the sides cut off or pan & scanned where the image would shift side to side so you could see something important.
But for The Sting, all they had to do was remove the mats at the top and bottom of the film the way it was shot and
you'd actually get, not only what was seen in the theaters on your 4:3 TV screens, but you'd actually be getting a little
more visual information at the top and bottom of the screen, not seen in the theatres.

What that means is that people who were feeling that not watching the film in widescreen on their TV's meant that
they weren't seeing the whole picture side to side. In actuality they were seeing that and more!

Like I said, it took me along time to understand this. I don't even know if I explained it very well here.

But that's why I watched it last night. I have the widescreen special edition of it, but I found a very inexpensive
"ful;l screen" dvd and watched it. I can notice a few instances where there's additional detail, but for the most
part, I'd enjoy watching it either way!

By the way, there's currently a musical version of The Sting being tried out and it might be Broadway bound.
I know Harry Connick, Jr. is the star, but I don't know if he's playing the Newman or Redford role.

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Post by: Flyboy on May 20, 2018, 04:50:39 PM
WHAT?? The Sting as a musical? I presume the music score will sound sorta like Scott Joplin's style, no?

At any rate, loved that film when it came out, but didn't have the BEST viewing experience at first.......my seatmate/date couldn't follow the plotline, or the dialogue and I had to keep answering silly questions throughout the showing!! arrrggghhhhhh!!  :o :o :o......but like Chili, it was MUCH BETTER the 2nd time around!!  :P :P :P
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 21, 2018, 06:34:58 PM
This is by no means a movie I watched this weekend, but it's one on my mind today: Streets of Fire (1984). I had an interesting experience concerning this film today.

Backstory: I discussed this on the "What are you listening to" thread. A local radio station plays music from the late 1970s to the early 1990s (in other words, the music of my young adulthood). I keep my clock radio tuned to this station, and this morning I woke up to the song "I Can Dream About You." I've always liked that song, so I looked it up. I also remembered that it had been used in Streets of Fire. The movie stared Michael Pare (there's an acute accent over that final "e"; I just don't know how to put one in text here  :D ). I remember Michael Pare as being so hot he could burn you. I also haven't heard of him since the mid-1980s. I looked him up at IMDb, and according to his filmography, he's been working steadily since 1981!  :o

IMO he hasn't aged well, but bravo to any guy who started out as a young stud and is still working more than 35 years later.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 22, 2018, 10:22:52 AM

Michael Pare!  Yes, Jeff, he started out like gangbusters in three films, Eddie and the Cruisers, Streets of Fire, and
The Philadelphia Experiment. Those films were immensely popular, but unlike some films that stay in the public eye
over some generations, those have somehow stayed under the radar. Wonder why that is? Maybe it's because this
actor didn't become a big star. Those three films turned out to be his best that I know of, too. As you note, he was
certainly take your breath away hot.

So I'll tell you...the place I worked at in the 80's was frequented by a woman whose name I don't recall now, though the last name was Traub, I believe, or maybe Weintraub, and she worked in the film industry and she even directed some movies, maybe they were for TV, I'm not sure, it's been awhile. I believe her husband was also connected to the "biz." I'm not sure why, but in the vague recesses of my mind I believe a couple of us who worked there were talking about Michael Pare and she said she was working with him, or had worked with him.  Soon after, when she came in one day she brought him in with her!!!  OMG!  Just to look at him was to make you feel like you were losing all sense of balance. Weak in the knees? I don't know, but like you said:

I remember Michael Pare as being so hot he could burn you.

He wasn't there long, and he seemed shy or uncomfortable...maybe because us guys were in a state of suspended animation. We only said "hello" to him and he wasn't talkative. I know that the woman who brought him in knew we were all gay and was, perhaps, amused at our attention to him, so she was giving us a thrill, I don't know, but I've never forgotten that image of him standing there in his form fitting pants and smoking demeanor. Maybe he was afraid we were going to swoon or something.  Thank you Ms. Traub or Weintraub!

I looked him up on imdb, too; like you said he has been working all along. I noticed one of the things he had a role in was The Lincoln Lawyer, which I have on my NetFlix rental list. As for why he isn't, or didn't become, more famous, I don't know. Maybe he's just not that good of an actor? We certainly know that there's a lot of good looking guys in films that aren't really that good at the acting part, lol! My favorite of the three films I mentioned is The Philadelphia Experiment, because, well, Michael Pare in a sailor uniform for two hours...please!
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 22, 2018, 10:37:47 AM
The movie stared Michael Pare (there's an acute accent over that final "e"; I just don't know how to put one in text here  :D ).


I'm sure there's a way to do it on a computer if one was of a mind to find out, but if I ever want to do it, I go to google and search a word or name I know that contains that and then copy it and insert it into my post.  Like I said...if I "want" to!

I did it frequently in the past few months for: Timothée Chalamet!
So, here's to you: Michael Paré.   ;D
___

I looked up to see if The Philadelphia Experiment was available to buy or to rent on NetFlix. I thought I might
revisit the film at some point. In so doing, I found out two things. One is that they made a sequel to it in 2005
with Brad Johnson. The second is that they remade it, or re-envisioned it, in 2012 (or 2013 depending on the
source) and that Michael Paré was also in that one. How much of a role I don't know, but considering it's a kind
of time travel story, supposedly based on fact, it could work. Maybe I should get all three. There's one release
available that has both the Paré films together. Or, Amazon says you can bundle all three for about $30. Hmm.

As you are from there, Jeff, did you ever hear or know of the Philadelphia experiment?
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 22, 2018, 11:46:30 AM
Michael Pare!  Yes, Jeff, he started out like gangbusters in three films, Eddie and the Cruisers, Streets of Fire, and
The Philadelphia Experiment. Those films were immensely popular, but unlike some films that stay in the public eye
over some generations, those have somehow stayed under the radar. Wonder why that is? Maybe it's because this
actor didn't become a big star. Those three films turned out to be his best that I know of, too. As you note, he was
certainly take your breath away hot.

So I'll tell you...the place I worked at in the 80's was frequented by a woman whose name I don't recall now, though the last name was Traub, I believe, or maybe Weintraub, and she worked in the film industry and she even directed some movies, maybe they were for TV, I'm not sure, it's been awhile. I believe her husband was also connected to the "biz." I'm not sure why, but in the vague recesses of my mind I believe a couple of us who worked there were talking about Michael Pare and she said she was working with him, or had worked with him.  Soon after, when she came in one day she brought him in with her!!!  OMG!  Just to look at him was to make you feel like you were losing all sense of balance. Weak in the knees? I don't know, but like you said:

He wasn't there long, and he seemed shy or uncomfortable...maybe because us guys were in a state of suspended animation. We only said "hello" to him and he wasn't talkative. I know that the woman who brought him in knew we were all gay and was, perhaps, amused at our attention to him, so she was giving us a thrill, I don't know, but I've never forgotten that image of him standing there in his form fitting pants and smoking demeanor. Maybe he was afraid we were going to swoon or something.  Thank you Ms. Traub or Weintraub!

Lyle, that's the most wonderful story! Thank you very much for sharing it.  :)  Lucky, lucky, lucky!

Of course I did a Google search for images, and that turned up some pics from when he was young.  :o  Thud!  Somebody I can envision in tight pants, a white t-shirt, and a leather jacket. ... :D

I forget if it was his IMDb entry or the Wikipedia article that mentioned that he did some modeling, too.

I'm sure there's a way to do it on a computer if one was of a mind to find out, but if I ever want to do it, I go to google and search a word or name I know that contains that and then copy it and insert it into my post.  Like I said...if I "want" to!

I know how to insert all kinds of accents and symbols in a Word document (at least, the version we have here at work), just not how to do it when I writing something directly online, like I am here.

Quote
As you are from there, Jeff, did you ever hear or know of the Philadelphia experiment?

I live there now; I wasn't born and/or raised here.

I vaguely remember hearing/reading about The Philadelphia Experiment--almost certainly the first one--and thinking the plot didn't seem interesting to me.

I really, I mean really, should see if I can find Streets of Fire and Eddie and the Cruisers.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 22, 2018, 12:16:33 PM
I really, I mean really, should see if I can find Streets of Fire and Eddie and the Cruisers.

I just ordered both of them. The Eddie and Cruisers also includes Eddie and the Cruisers II.

Does it say something/Dear God, what does it say, about a 60-year-old gay man ordering a couple of 35-year-old films just to see the smoldering young hottie who starred in them?  :laugh:
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 22, 2018, 02:15:21 PM

It says you're gonna have a good time this weekend!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 22, 2018, 02:34:07 PM
It says you're gonna have a good time this weekend!

Unfortunately it's going to take a little longer than that. Something to look forward to, anyway.  :)

I did a little more "research." Assuming IMDb has its facts correct, I'm almost exactly five months older than Michael Pare. His birthday is in October, so he was 25 when Streets of Fire opened 1 June 1984.
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Post by: oilgun on May 22, 2018, 05:28:56 PM
[...]
The movie stared Michael Pare (there's an acute accent over that final "e"; I just don't know how to put one in text here  :D ).
[...]
try ALT+ 0233  to get an é.

https://www.alt-codes.net/
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Post by: Sara B on May 22, 2018, 11:20:19 PM
Or ALT 130. Or hold down the e on an iPhone/iPad.

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 23, 2018, 06:53:01 AM
try ALT+ 0233  to get an é.

https://www.alt-codes.net/

Or ALT 130. Or hold down the e on an iPhone/iPad.

Thank you both! I'll try to remember  ::)  the next time the need arises.  :)
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 23, 2018, 07:00:07 AM
It says you're gonna have a good time this weekend!

Lyle,

Last night I found--and, of course, downloaded--a picture of Michael Paré in jeans and a leather jacket with no shirt. ...  :o  Thud!

(I wasn't able to get either ALT code to work [no doubt my own fault]. I copied the accented é from Word.)
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 23, 2018, 02:14:24 PM
I just ordered both of them. The Eddie and Cruisers also includes Eddie and the Cruisers II.

Bonus! Young Tom Berenger is also in Eddie and the Cruisers.  :D
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Post by: brian on May 23, 2018, 03:10:03 PM
On a Mac - Option + e then release and type e again (or any other vowel)
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Post by: oilgun on May 23, 2018, 04:48:42 PM
On a Mac - Option + e then release and type e again (or any other vowel)

I've been on a Mac for years and never knew this, lol! Thanks! I switched the language which could get annoying.
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Post by: brian on May 23, 2018, 06:41:14 PM
I also used to change the language. My Mac is set up to change the flag from Australia (No NZ :( ) to German or French but usually I am typing in that language anyway.  I only just found this
https://www.bu.edu/geddes/files/2011/04/accents-mac.pdf
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Post by: gattaca on May 25, 2018, 03:26:40 AM
I just ordered both of them. The Eddie and Cruisers also includes Eddie and the Cruisers II.

Does it say something/Dear God, what does it say, about a 60-year-old gay man ordering a couple of 35-year-old films just to see the smoldering young hottie who starred in them?  :laugh:
This is the film I remember him for  most and yeah those eyes... V.
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Post by: killersmom on May 25, 2018, 02:21:29 PM
I went out with a couple of friends to see the movie "Book Club ". It was a riotously funny movie. Definitely made for 'women of a certain age'.

It was a very a very enjoyable hour and a half. 4 women who have known each other since college, still get together for a book club, and lots of wine, each picking a book every month. One picks "50 Shades of Grey", and all their lives change, as they finish the first book and then read the other 2 in the series.

Jane Fonda, Mary Steenburgen, Candace Bergen, and Diane Keeton play the 4 friends, and Don Johnson, Craig T. Nelson, Richard Dreyfus, and Andy Garcia, respectively, play their love interests.

It really is a great movie, but as I said, it is only going to appeal to women of a certain age, but it sure was fun to watch.
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Post by: oilgun on May 26, 2018, 02:08:34 PM
I went out with a couple of friends to see the movie "Book Club ". It was a riotously funny movie. Definitely made for 'women of a certain age'.

It was a very a very enjoyable hour and a half. 4 women who have known each other since college, still get together for a book club, and lots of wine, each picking a book every month. One picks "50 Shades of Grey", and all their lives change, as they finish the first book and then read the other 2 in the series.

Jane Fonda, Mary Steenburgen, Candace Bergen, and Diane Keeton play the 4 friends, and Don Johnson, Craig T. Nelson, Richard Dreyfus, and Andy Garcia, respectively, play their love interests.

It really is a great movie, but as I said, it is only going to appeal to women of a certain age, but it sure was fun to watch.

My sister saw it and thoroughly enjoyed as well. It's a great cast.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 27, 2018, 04:57:34 PM
I went out with a couple of friends to see the movie "Book Club ". It was a riotously funny movie. Definitely made for 'women of a certain age'.

And gay men, maybe?
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Post by: Flyboy on May 28, 2018, 06:09:39 AM
And gay men, maybe?
LOL!! Jeff!  ;D....that's probably a given in certain circles.... ;D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 28, 2018, 11:42:20 AM

--Les Girls

A 1957 MGM musical film in widescreen. It stars Gene Kelly and Mitzi Gaynor, Kay Kendall and Taina Elg.
Really much ado about nothing. It has one outstanding dance sequence. The music was by Cole Porter,
but the songs are few and far between and not memorable at all. The most memorable music is what
they use on the soundtrack behind the stage scenes--Be a Clown from "The Pirate." It has a long sequence
where Gene Kelly lies about his health which is something i hate in movies. The costume design won an
Oscar for Orry-Kelly. There are dozens of much better musicals to see than this one.

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Post by: killersmom on May 28, 2018, 05:09:02 PM
And gay men, maybe?

Maybe....... 
 8)
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 29, 2018, 07:37:06 AM
This is the film I remember him for  most and yeah those eyes... V.
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Maybe I should check that one out, too. I think I said I remember at the time thinking that the plot didn't sound interesting to me, but, then, neither did the plots of Streets of Fire and Eddie and the Cruisers.

I'm still waiting for the arrival of Streets and Eddie/Eddie II. So, we'll see. In retrospect it could be that The Philadelphia Experiment might interest me more than Streets and Eddie/Eddie II. After all, I didn't order Streets and the two Eddies for their plots.  :laugh:

And, as you said, "Yeah, those eyes." I've downloaded about a dozen photos of the young Michael, and those eyes could knock you out of your chair.

Funny thing. Now when I look at those photos of Michael in his 20's, I can see the root of Michael at age 60.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 29, 2018, 10:46:57 AM

--The Young Girls of Rochefort

This is a French musical about two sisters in search of love, they're hired as carnival singers and fall for a couple
of guys they meet, "A film whose scenario is much less important than its feeling of euphory," according to the
director, Jacques Demy, who also did the wonderful The Umbrellas of Cherbourg. The film has Catherine Deneuve
in it and a couple Americans, George Chakiris and Gene Kelly. The music is by famed composer Michel Legrand.

It's light and breezy, colorful and energetic, full of pretty people, song and dance. Everything about it screams 1967,
the year of its French release, and in a good way.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 29, 2018, 08:56:16 PM
George Chakiris

Woof. ...   :o  Thud!
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Post by: FoS on May 30, 2018, 03:13:53 AM
--The Young Girls of Rochefort

This is a French musical about two sisters in search of love, they're hired as carnival singers and fall for a couple
of guys they meet, "A film whose scenario is much less important than its feeling of euphory," according to the
director, Jacques Demy, who also did the wonderful The Umbrellas of Cherbourg. The film has Catherine Deneuve
in it and a couple Americans, George Chakiris and Gene Kelly. The music is by famed composer Michel Legrand.

It's light and breezy, colorful and energetic, full of pretty people, song and dance. Everything about it screams 1967,
the year of its French release, and in a good way.

C. Deneuve was one of the sisters, and the other was her real life sister Françoise Dorléac. Equally beautiful and talented, she had a growing international career when she died, aged only 25, in a solo car accident in 1967. Same year that ” les demoiselles de rochefort” premiered.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 30, 2018, 07:35:31 AM
C. Deneuve was one of the sisters, and the other was her real life sister Françoise Dorléac. Equally beautiful and talented, she had a growing international career when she died, aged only 25, in a solo car accident in 1967. Same year that ” les demoiselles de rochefort” premiered.

When I was very young, I  became convinced that Catherine Deneuve was the most beautiful woman in the world.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 30, 2018, 08:20:29 PM
I'm still waiting for the arrival of Streets and Eddie/Eddie II. So, we'll see. In retrospect it could be that The Philadelphia Experiment might interest me more than Streets and Eddie/Eddie II. After all, I didn't order Streets and the two Eddies for their plots.  :laugh:

The DVDs arrived today. Tonight's feature was Streets of Fire. It was fun. Of course it's chief attraction was Michael. It wasn't my taste in movies in the early 1980s, and it isn't now, but I'm glad I've now seen it.

A lot of interesting names connected with the music in the film.

Willem Dafoe looked like a vampire. That man sure has had a strange and interesting career. Fun to recognize young Bill Paxton.

I might get to Eddie tomorrow night. I want to learn more about the two Eddies. I'm beginning to formulate a theory as to why young Michael didn't become a bigger star, but I need more data.

And I guess I do have to get The Philadelphia Experiment.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 31, 2018, 09:23:03 PM
I might get to Eddie tomorrow night.

So, indeed, tonight, the second night of my Michael Paré Film Festival,  :laugh: was Eddie and the Cruisers.

I liked it. Oddly, at least twice while I was watching it, I felt myself choking up. I have no idea why. I was 5 years old in 1963, too young for that whole early-60's Jersey Shore band scene. Maybe I was being nostalgic for a time and a place that I never knew?

I read some interesting things about the movie. I learned that John Cafferty (John Cafferty and the Beaver Brown Band) scored the movie. I well remember "The Dark Side." I don't remember if I knew it was from this movie.

After listening to Michael in Streets of Fire, I more or less expected to learn that he did not sing as Eddie. Then today I read that Janet Maslin in the New York Times called Michael's lip-synching "almost perfect." I couldn't find anything today that said who did Eddie's singing. I suspected it was probably John Cafferty, and, if I read the credits right, I guess I'm correct. I think I read that the Cruisers' music was performed by the Beaver Brown Band, and Cafferty sang lead vocals, so that would make sense. It sounded like John Cafferty's voice, and his singing voice sounded close enough to Michael Paré's speaking voice to make it plausible.

It was an added delight to find that Tom Berenger is in the movie. I've always liked him--I loved him as the guy with the Magnum, P.I.-type TV series in The Big Chill. He's another one about whom I've wondered why he didn't become a bigger star.

Funny. I do want to watch Streets of Fire and  again. Soon.

Why did Michael Paré not become a big star?  :(

And, yes, I do have to get The Philadelphia Experiment.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 01, 2018, 11:07:53 AM

--Grease 2

Maybe because Jeff is watching early 1980's movies, I watched one, too, last night. Believe it or not, I didn't
really care for the first Grease movie, though I had known about and listened to the stage musical version
for many years before that. It was also a movie I was exposed to, for various reasons, so much that I just
got really tired of it.

I know this one was really panned when it cam out and sank, but it amused me enough that I enjoyed myself watching
it last night. The songs are pretty entertaining and the cast is giving it their all. If one doesn't know, Michelle Pfeiffer is
the lead, along with Maxwell Caulfield. Michelle came out of it unscathed, but Maxwell didn't fare so well in his career
right after this film. I don't know why. Maybe he and Michael Pare should have done a love story together!

There's a raft of 50's stars in it, to keep one's interest, too, like Eve Arden, Sid Caesar and Tab Hunter. The plot is somewhat
like the reverse of the first Grease. A new student from overseas, this time Maxwell from Britain instead of Olivia from Australia,
catches the eye of the opposite sex and sparks ignite. I'd always thought this sequel was still in the 1950's, so I was surprised
it takes place in 1961. The first one was such a megahit I don't think this ever had a chance, even though the critics concensus
on RT is: "Grease 2 is undeniably stocked with solid songs and well-choreographed dance sequences, but there's no getting around
the fact that it's a blatant retread of its far more entertaining predecessor."

If one might recall, the critics didn't really like the 1st one, either, but it was such a success, your thumbs go up more than down.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 01, 2018, 11:36:42 AM
And, yes, I do have to get The Philadelphia Experiment.

I ordered The Philadelphia Experiment this morning, from a reliable (meaning I've bought from them before) seller on eBay.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 01, 2018, 11:47:47 AM
--Grease 2

I never saw either, not the first one nor this one.

This is another case where the whole concept did not attract me. In fact, it turned me off altogether.

Was Grease responsible for the proliferation of Fifties theme parties? I hate theme parties. ...

(BTW, I never watched Happy Days, either, nor have I ever seen American Graffiti.)

And talk about obsession. Now I'm wondering if any of Michael Paré's TV roles are "out there."  :(
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 01, 2018, 09:50:16 PM
Well, tonight I concluded my Michael Pare film festival  ;D  with Eddie and the Cruisers II: Eddie Lives!

I understand the movie chattering classes who disliked Eddie and Cruisers disliked Eddie II even more. Since the opinion that matters to me is mine, I'll say I liked it. It's kind of a redemption story, so it's more upbeat. I had the impression there is more music in it, also, than in Eddie I.

This isn't to say I don't find issues. For much of the film they've got Michael in sideburns and a mustache that make him look like Robert Goulet. Also, it seems to me that people who had no reason to, including  a whole auditorium full of people, too readily accepted "Joe West" as somebody who supposedly had been dead for 20 years. I missed Tom Berenger.

But Janet Maslin was correct: Michael really was pretty good at lip-synching.

The Philadelphia Experiment should arrive next week. I'll look forward to seeing that, now. And I will watch Streets of Fire and both Eddies again. Eddie II just might join my list of feel-good movies.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 02, 2018, 10:23:38 AM
I never saw either, not the first one nor this one.
This is another case where the whole concept did not attract me. In fact, it turned me off altogether.
Was Grease responsible for the proliferation of Fifties theme parties? I hate theme parties. ...
(BTW, I never watched Happy Days, either, nor have I ever seen American Graffiti.)

That's interesting that you never watched any of these films or shows that caught the fancy of so many.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 02, 2018, 11:58:44 AM
That's interesting that you never watched any of these films or shows that caught the fancy of so many.

It puzzles even me. I've just never had any interest in that Fifties nostalgia.  :(

Maybe I just don't like the look of guys with "that greasy kid stuff" in their hair.   :laugh:

I've never card for that later incarnation, either, guys with so much jell, or whatever it is, in their hair. To me it just looks like they need to wash their hair.

I couldn't say now why I never had any interest in Happy Days, either. I've determined that the show ran at 8 p.m. Tuesday ET for 10 years, but I really don't know what it was up against that I or my family may have been watching instead. I noticed that about half the show's run fell in my college and graduate school years, when I wasn't watching much of anything. It seems to me that the show was among those cultural phenomena where you don't have to watch it to know who's who and what's what.
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Post by: Flyboy on June 02, 2018, 08:44:39 PM
The Big Chill, absolutely one of my all-time Favs......I just wasn't sure why they put Meg Tilly in it though, her character, or casting, just didn't FIT the rest of the crew, IMHO, you understand? It was one of those films where the ensemble was PERFECT, to me, anyway!! LOL...I always wondered why Tom Berenger AND JoBeth Williams didn't go on to become BIGGER stars, I think they both have had steady work, which is GREAT for anyone in that industry!!
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 03, 2018, 11:26:05 AM
To me it just looks like they need to wash their hair.

Heh!

How do you feel about the current look of guys looking like they just got up and don't bother to shave. Scruffy.
And many with tattoos?  It's especially noticeable on commercials. I have to wonder when actors are hired for them,
do they just show up looking like that or are told to? I'm not talking about facial hair that looks like it's supposed to be
that way...like trimmed beards, I'm talking about looking like one is too lazy to shave and looks scruffy. There's a
series of Verizon commercials with a guy that isn't particularly handsome with that look and it just bugs me. I was
told by someone this guy is an actor on Game of Thrones. When those commercials come on I keep thinking, "Really
Verizon? You actually want your spokesman to look like this?"


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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 03, 2018, 01:29:27 PM
How do you feel about the current look of guys looking like they just got up and don't bother to shave. Scruffy.
And many with tattoos?  It's especially noticeable on commercials. I have to wonder when actors are hired for them,
do they just show up looking like that or are told to? I'm not talking about facial hair that looks like it's supposed to be
that way...like trimmed beards,
I'm talking about looking like one is too lazy to shave and looks scruffy. There's a
series of Verizon commercials with a guy that isn't particularly handsome with that look and it just bugs me. I was
told by someone this guy is an actor on Game of Thrones. When those commercials come on I keep thinking, "Really
Verizon? You actually want your spokesman to look like this?"

I really can't say. For me it's so highly individualistic. Right now I can't picture anyone who looks like I think you are describing. This I can say: Guys who don't have enough facial hair to begin with should not attempt the "scruff" look. On guys like that, it really does look as if they're too lazy to shave. The unkempt hair look bothers me more than the facial hair.

I don't think I've seen those Verizon commercials.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 03, 2018, 01:44:43 PM
The Big Chill, absolutely one of my all-time Favs......I just wasn't sure why they put Meg Tilly in it though, her character, or casting, just didn't FIT the rest of the crew, IMHO, you understand? It was one of those films where the ensemble was PERFECT, to me, anyway!! LOL...I always wondered why Tom Berenger AND JoBeth Williams didn't go on to become BIGGER stars, I think they both have had steady work, which is GREAT for anyone in that industry!!

Actually, IMO, I thought that was the whole point of her being there, at least as far as her character went (I did think she seemed stoned): she was the outsider; she didn't fit in. Alex, the dead guy (we all know that was Kevin Costner, don't we), had taken up with somebody totally inappropriate, someone at least (I'm guessing) ten years younger than himself and possibly more It's been years and years since I last watched the film (I still have the VHS tape but nothing to play it on!  :laugh: ), but I remember thinking Chloe was supposed to be barely past age 20, if that old. The others were all in their 30s, and she was practically a child in comparison. Come to think of it, it strikes me now that if that's what they were going for, she was pretty well cast. (I ought to see how old Meg Tilly was when the film was made or released).
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Post by: gattaca on June 03, 2018, 02:06:52 PM
Actually, IMO, I thought that was the whole point of her being there, at least as far as her character went (I did think she seemed stoned): she was the outsider; she didn't fit in. Alex, the dead guy (we all know that was Kevin Costner, don't we), had taken up with somebody totally inappropriate, someone at least (I'm guessing) ten years younger than himself and possibly more It's been years and years since I last watched the film (I still have the VHS tape but nothing to pay it on!  :laugh: ), but I remember thinking Chloe was supposed to be barely past age 20, if that old. The others were all in their 30s, and she was practically a child in comparison. Come to think of it, it strikes me now that if that's what they were going for, she was pretty well cast. (I ought to see how old Meg Tilly was when the film was made or released).

I agree, TBC is one of my top 20 all-time favorite films.  funny story sort of.  A friend and I went to see this my SR year in highschool... we walked out and wondered WTF all the fuss was about.   Fast forward about 3 or 4 years later and TBC was playing at the my college's student union, so I thought why not.  I walked outta there this time with a totally different perspective on the film.  The fact that Costner ended up on the cutting room floor, well all except his slashed wrists, always sort of sucked.  It was one of the first films he ever did and we never got to see more than his wrists.  Go figure.   V.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 03, 2018, 06:27:47 PM
I agree, TBC is one of my top 20 all-time favorite films.  funny story sort of.  A friend and I went to see this my SR year in highschool... we walked out and wondered WTF all the fuss was about.   Fast forward about 3 or 4 years later and TBC was playing at the my college's student union, so I thought why not.  I walked outta there this time with a totally different perspective on the film.  The fact that Costner ended up on the cutting room floor, well all except his slashed wrists, always sort of sucked.  It was one of the first films he ever did and we never got to see more than his wrists.  Go figure.   V.

It seems to me it would have been a very different film if we had seen Alex alive, albeit in flashbacks.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 03, 2018, 06:37:36 PM
I might get to Eddie tomorrow night.

Actually, I've already watched Eddie and the Cruisers twice (Thursday and Saturday), and Eddie II on Friday, and will again tonight.  ::)

Funny, but even in a movie like Eddie I, you pick up things on a second viewing that you miss on the first. I guess maybe all movies are like that, huh? Example: On my second go-round, I picked up on Eddie making fun of the names of several colleges where the Cruisers had played. I completely missed that the first time.

Another funny thing. I have not been able to find any fan fiction based on Eddie I. It could be that the film is just too old, or didn't inspire enough affection, or my Internet research skills just ain't that great. IMO there is a plot point in the film that just screams for a slash short story.  ::)  I could write it myself; I probably will, just for my own amusement--aw, hell, it's half-written in my head already. I just won't have any place to go with it when it's done, I guess.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 04, 2018, 08:35:08 AM
Well, here's one I did not see this weekend: Jurassic World.

It eluded my notice that NBC was broadcasting it last night. It popped up when I was setting up to play a DVD. Probably I  should have watched it, because I have not seen it, and from the brief bit I saw last night, it appeared that everything I had heard about Chris Pratt's body was true.  :D

Instead I felt a greater need to watch the DVD I was planning to view.

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 04, 2018, 12:03:34 PM

--High Society

An underrated MGM musical from 1956. It stars 4 Oscar winners, Bing Crosby, Grace Kelly,
Celeste Holm and Frank Sinatra. This particular film is interested in the personal relationships
of the story and not the crowd spectaculars, so it's light on dancing, but vocals are spectacular.
It was Kelly's last film, which is a shame, because her under used comedic talents were on display.
Louis Armstrong and his jazz combo are an added treat.
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Post by: Sara B on June 04, 2018, 12:20:00 PM
I rewatched Notting Hill the other day. Hard to believe it’s the same Hugh Grant as the one playing gay leader of the Liberal Party,Jeremy Thorpe, in the excellent BBC miniseries A Very English Scandal which has just finished. And thoroughly enjoyed  it, though it couldn’t be more different.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 04, 2018, 12:44:15 PM
--High Society

An underrated MGM musical from 1956. It stars 4 Oscar winners, Bing Crosby, Grace Kelly,
Celeste Holm and Frank Sinatra. This particular film is interested in the personal relationships
of the story and not the crowd spectaculars, so it's light on dancing, but vocals are spectacular.
It was Kelly's last film, which is a shame, because her under used comedic talents were on display.
Louis Armstrong and his jazz combo are an added treat.

Lyle, I trust your judgment, but I think I'll skip this one and stick with The Philadelphia Story. For me, Crosby and Sinatra just can't compete with Grant and Stewart.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 04, 2018, 03:54:12 PM

The three of us who watched High Society dislike P.S. quite a bit.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 04, 2018, 04:07:47 PM
The three of us who watched High Society dislike P.S. quite a bit.

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

I can't wrap my mind around you not liking The Philadelphia Story, but we all have our own tastes, and I mean that sincerely, not snarkily.
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Post by: gattaca on June 04, 2018, 08:32:50 PM
It seems to me it would have been a very different film if we had seen Alex alive, albeit in flashbacks.
Yes that was surfaced at the time too and would have provided more context for their lives with him.  BUT I think the film as presented was really about the people who were left and how their lives intersected because of Alex.   I'm not sure how I'd feel about flashbacks now having watched the film SOOOO many times.   V.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 05, 2018, 07:40:03 AM
BUT I think the film as presented was really about the people who were left and how their lives intersected because of Alex.

It's been a very long time, but I remember having that impression, too.
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Post by: oilgun on June 05, 2018, 05:16:31 PM
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w197/oilgun/garden-finzi-conti-01_zps45tu4vuj.jpg)

The Garden of the Finzi-Continis (1970) Vittorio De Sica. Starring Dominique Sanda and Helmut Berger.

Synopsis from Wiki:
In the late 1930s, in Ferrara, a group of young friends get together for afternoons of tennis and happy times. Some of them are Jewish and a rising tide of Fascism has imposed increasingly anti-Semitic restrictions in their lives. Barred from regular tennis clubs, they go to play at the grand, walled estate owned by the Finzi-Continis, a wealthy, intellectual and sophisticated Jewish family. The two young Finzi-Continis, Alberto and his sister Micòl, have organized a tennis tournament. Oblivious to the threats around them, life still seems to be sunny at the large Finzi-Contini estate, keeping the rest of the world at bay.
[...]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Garden_of_the_Finzi-Continis_(film)

I don't know how I manage to not watch this film until now! It is truly a classic. It won the Academy Award for best foreign film in 1972. I watched it on youtube and the quality was terrible but I was still completely engrossed. Heartbreaking story.

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 07, 2018, 12:31:54 PM
^^^

I know of this film, but cannot remember if I have seen it or not.
I don't think so. I believe it won the Best Foreign FIlm at the Oscars the year it was up.


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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 07, 2018, 12:40:51 PM

--Jack Reacher: Never Go Back

I am not a particular fan of Tom Cruise, but I do check out most of his films because
he really does try to do some different kinds of stories and if they're action films, they're
usually entertaining, whether or not they're ultimately memorable.

With that in mind I watched this sequel to Jack Reacher last night. I just looked up the RT concensus
and the critics say: "Monotonously formulaic, Jack Reacher: Never Go Back is one action thriller sequel
whose title also serves as a warning."

LOL!  I'm sure critics would rather fawn all over a movie like The Florida Project (ugh!), but you know what?
Sometimes I want to watch a film that's formulaic and I don't think it was monotonous. I enjoyed myself.
I always keep in mind that reviewers have to watch a lot of movies and their tolerance for things like this
can be tested. I liken it to having to eat vanilla ice cream every day and after awhile they're just tired of
vanilla ice cream, so they fawn all over some chocolate ice cream that appears, when another person could
enjoy either at a given time.

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 07, 2018, 01:00:59 PM
--Jack Reacher: Never Go Back

With that in mind I watched this sequel to Jack Reacher last night. I just looked up the RT concensus
and the critics say: "Monotonously formulaic, Jack Reacher: Never Go Back is one action thriller sequel
whose title also serves as a warning."

 :laugh:
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Post by: tfferg on June 07, 2018, 05:30:36 PM


The Garden of the Finzi-Continis (1970) Vittorio De Sica. Starring Dominique Sanda and Helmut Berger.

I don't know how I manage to not watch this film until now! It is truly a classic. It won the Academy Award for best foreign film in 1972. I watched it on youtube and the quality was terrible but I was still completely engrossed. Heartbreaking story.

I remember I saw it at the time and I'm sure it must have had an impact on me, but I completely forgot the story - old age  :( :">. For some reason, the euphonious Italian title keeps popping into my head for no reason like a song you can't get out of your head.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 12, 2018, 08:26:46 AM
Not the weekend, but last night TCM showed Pygmalion (1938), with Leslie Howard (1893-1943) as Prof. Higgins and Wendy Hiller (1912-2003) as Eliza Doolittle. Anyone who has only ever seen Leslie Howard as Ashley Wilkes in Gone With the Wind really needs to see Pygmalion. His performance as Henry Higgins in this film shows what a really good actor Howard was. (Howard hated playing Ashley; even he recognized that he was too old for the part and not nearly good-looking enough.)

The film also shows what a good actress Wendy Hiller already was at the age of 24. I first knew her as Lady Alice More (wife of Sir Thomas More) in A Man for All Seasons (1966). I also saw her as Lady Bracknell in a TV production of Oscar Wilde's The Importance of Being Earnest (1985).

(IIRC, I didn't like that production of Earnest, but it wasn't Hiller's fault. I thought the whole thing was wooden. I read the play in a college course on the history of the British theater, and I've always felt that Wilde's dialog needs to be delivered "snappy," slow enough to be understood but fast enough that you don't have time to think about how silly most of it is.)

Hiller also had an interesting supporting role in Making Love (1982). Has that movie ever been discussed in the Gay Cinema thread? It's the story of a gay love affair between a doctor (Michael Ontkean--who was very cute back in the day), who was only just realizing his attraction to men, and an openly gay novelist (Harry Hamlin). Kate Jackson played Ontkean's wife. It's really a pre-AIDs story, and it was groundbreaking for its day. And, come to think of it, it's a gay love story where nobody ends up dead (except Hiller, who plays an elderly friend of Ontkean and Jackson). Ontkean and Jackson divorce, but Ontkean goes on to be a successful doctor in New York with a handsome partner, and Jackson finds a new man for her life.

I saw Making Love in the theater with my heart in my throat because at that time in my life, I knew I was gay but wasn't yet out to anybody. The move was damn near ruined for me because seated right behind me were three giggling teenage girls who had no business being there in the first place.

I read Shaw's Pygmalion in that same class where I read The Importance of Being Earnest. Quite frankly, I prefer it to My Fair Lady.
 



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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 12, 2018, 10:57:03 AM
(Howard hated playing Ashley; even he recognized that he was too old for the part and not nearly good-looking enough.)

I believe TCM is showing a new biography about Leslie Howard this week, if I'm not mistaken.

I read once about the casting of Howard in GWTW and knew that he didn't really want to play the role.
In a strange way, that helps his character. Leslie was getting into a big role he didn't want and felt
the situation wasn't optimal for him, in the same way in the film that Ashley was coping with an
unwanted war that would change his life in unwanted ways, too.

The author of the casting article, or maybe it was a chapter in a book, talked about the fact that it
was strange that in Hollywood at that time, there were no young actors available to play a lead like
that which is why they had to go with the older Leslie Howard. I believe he was 46 at the time. That
was 8 years older than Clark Gable.

After reading it, I thought there must have been a younger star out there, of the heartthrob variety, who
could've been cast, but in my looking around, I didn't find one. Isn't that odd? That in what is often said to
be Hollywood's Greatest Year, 1939, which can very well be quibbled about, there were no young 25-35 year
old actors like that working in films?

Where was Henry Willson when you needed him?


I read Shaw's Pygmalion in that same class where I read The Importance of Being Earnest. Quite frankly, I prefer it to My Fair Lady.

This is the second time recently I've heard someone dissing My Fair Lady and I've never heard such a thing
ever before!

(I know you weren't really dissing it, just expressing your preference as such.)

___

I'll say a few things about Making Love in the Gay Cinema thread.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 12, 2018, 11:49:39 AM
I believe TCM is showing a new biography about Leslie Howard this week, if I'm not mistaken.

At least he's star of the month, or something like that. That's why they showed Pygmalion last night.

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After reading it, I thought there must have been a younger star out there, of the heartthrob variety, who
could've been cast, but in my looking around, I didn't find one. Isn't that odd? That in what is often said to
be Hollywood's Greatest Year, 1939, which can very well be quibbled about, there were no young 25-35 year
old actors like that working in films?

Errol Flynn was 30. Captain Blood made him "big" in 1935, He would have looked very good in a Confederate uniform, but maybe he was already too old, or not "big" enough.

Lyle, do you know if he was even considered?

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This is the second time recently I've heard someone dissing My Fair Lady and I've never heard such a thing
ever before!

I probably have, or come close to it. I love Audrey Hepburn--no one else could have been Holly Golightly--but when I so much as think of My Fair Lady I get angry at whoever precisely it was felt they needed a non-singer because she was a "name."
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 12, 2018, 12:35:47 PM

Lyle, do you know if he [Errol Flynn] was even considered?

If he was, it would've been for the Rhett Butler role, not Ashley Wilkes, so probably not.
Warner Bros. probably wouldn't have let him play Ashley. It wasn't his image to be a weaker
and/or subordinated character. (Bossed around by a woman or two, not Errol Flynn.)

I probably have, or come close to it. I love Audrey Hepburn--no one else could have been Holly Golightly--but when I so much as think of My Fair Lady I get angry at whoever precisely it was felt they needed a non-singer because she was a "name."

In some releases of My Fair Lady to home video, they have a couple segments with Audrey Hepburn singing two of the
numbers in her own voice. They could have let her sing the role, but it was a Hollywood custom to let others do the singing.
I mean, in Carmen Jones, Harry Belafonte--A SINGER--is dubbed. By the way, even if the actors same voice is used they are
dubbed in musicals, with an exception or two here and there. You'll have to get angry a lot over dubbing voices in films. Andy
Williams famously dubbed Lauren Bacall's singing voice in a movie. I don't think The King and I, West Side Story or My Fair Lady
suffer from the voices being dubbed, no more than using Patsy Kline's original voice, dubbing Jessica Lange hurts Sweet Dreams.

By the way, lesser well-known is that Marni Nixon dubbed Rita Moreno's voice in the "Tonight" number in West Side Story.
I have never felt this was an issue in these movies, no more than I know a bunch of actors don't do their own stunts in
films or that CSI: Vegas, Miami and N.Y. were filmed in Los Angeles, or other Hollywood trickery.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 12, 2018, 01:22:24 PM
In some releases of My Fair Lady to home video, they have a couple segments with Audrey Hepburn singing two of the
numbers in her own voice. They could have let her sing the role, but it was a Hollywood custom to let others do the singing.
I mean, in Carmen Jones, Harry Belafonte--A SINGER--is dubbed. By the way, even if the actors same voice is used they are
dubbed in musicals, with an exception or two here and there. You'll have to get angry a lot over dubbing voices in films. Andy
Williams famously dubbed Lauren Bacall's singing voice in a movie. I don't think The King and I, West Side Story or My Fair Lady
suffer from the voices being dubbed, no more than using Patsy Kline's original voice, dubbing Jessica Lange hurts Sweet Dreams.

By the way, lesser well-known is that Marni Nixon dubbed Rita Moreno's voice in the "Tonight" number in West Side Story.
I have never felt this was an issue in these movies, no more than I know a bunch of actors don't do their own stunts in
films or that CSI: Vegas, Miami and N.Y. were filmed in Los Angeles, or other Hollywood trickery.

I should know this but don't remember: It was Marni Nixon singing for Audrey Hepburn? Depending on what exactly you mean by My Fair Lady not suffering from the dubbing, I'll part company with you here. To my hearing, I find Eliza's "singing voice" so much higher than her "speaking voice" that I think it's quite noticeable, and it annoys me and makes me all the more conscious that it's not Audrey Hepburn singing. On the other hand I hardly notice it in The King and I because Deborah Kerr's speaking voice is, I guess, a soprano to begin with.

For a movie with lots of music that isn't a musical, I think John Cafferty was a good choice to dub Michael Pare in the Eddie and the Cruisers movies. Of course I'm not exactly objective about those movies  ::)  but I think Cafferty's voice is close enough to Michael Pare's voice that it could be Pare singing.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 12, 2018, 01:54:31 PM
Where was Henry Willson when you needed him?

Really. If he could find Roy Fitzgerald later on, surely there must have some young blond hottie pumping gas somewhere in Hollywood in 1938 or so.
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Post by: Flyboy on June 12, 2018, 10:46:26 PM
Lyle, you are such a WEALTH of INFORMATION on films, a real treasure here!! I too, LOVE your little side stories and interactions you've had over the years with different people in the film industry!! Keep up the good work!!  :D :D :D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 12, 2018, 10:57:39 PM
^^^

Why, thanks, Jonn!


I should know this but don't remember: It was Marni Nixon singing for Audrey Hepburn?

Correct.


To my hearing, I find Eliza's "singing voice" so much higher than her "speaking voice"

This made me think of Jim Nabors, in reverse, of course!

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Post by: Sara B on June 13, 2018, 12:06:07 AM
I’m having a bit of a Ben Whishaw season, and have just watched Bright Star, the film about the Romantic poet John Keats. I saw it years ago on a plane and it attracted me even in those circumstances, and I was very impressed by BW, the first time I had seen him.

I was very taken by it this time round as well. The story is told mainly from the point of view of Fanny Brawne and her family - for some time Keats was living next door to them in Hampstead, then a village but now a part of Greater London, though it still has quite a separate feel about it (I used to live near there). The family atmosphere is brought beautifully to life. They fall in love, but Keats’s lack of money and increasing symptoms of TB prevent their marrying. The creation of many of his most famous poems are a part of the story, and it is all beautifully filmed and acted against the rural background of Hampstead Heath.

As Keats died at 25 it’s inevitably sad, but I really enjoyed it.

And this morning I’ve been having a wander around the internet to catch up on some of the background. I studied Keats at school and university, but need to go back to his poems now, and also the huge volume of his letters which I own.

And a little footnote: Ben met his now husband Mark Bradshaw on the set. Mark composed the film music, and also played the brief part of the music master.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 13, 2018, 07:12:17 AM
I should know this but don't remember: It was Marni Nixon singing for Audrey Hepburn?

Correct.

To my hearing, I find Eliza's "singing voice" so much higher than her "speaking voice" that I think it's quite noticeable, and it annoys me.

This made me think of Jim Nabors, in reverse, of course!

Well, G-a-a-a-a-w-ly! Surprise! Surprise!

 ;D
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 13, 2018, 07:13:29 AM
I’m having a bit of a Ben Whishaw season, and have just watched Bright Star, the film about the Romantic poet John Keats. I saw it years ago on a plane and it attracted me even in those circumstances, and I was very impressed by BW, the first time I had seen him.

I remember hearing about this movie when it came out, but, like so, so many others, I've never seen it.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 13, 2018, 10:23:59 AM

Jeff, you'll get to see Ben in the new Mary Poppins movie. He plays the grown up Michael Banks.
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Post by: Sara B on June 13, 2018, 10:33:57 AM
I hope you might get to see A Very English Scandal, 3 part BBC mini series about Liberal leader Jeremy Thorpe and his trial for attempted murder. (I talked about it recently on TV thread.) Hugh Grant and Ben W as his abandoned lover are brilliant, and it’s all both entertaining and thought-provoking.
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Post by: morrobay on June 15, 2018, 07:05:01 PM
One of my top 10, Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner is on TCM now.  I saw it when I was 15, for some reason it was movie of the week on a Philly station.  Rebellious street kid, Tom Courtney, is sent to borstal for robbery...there are still a few lines I can't understand, British accent, fast talking and different words.  Still a favorite after all these years...
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 17, 2018, 09:52:57 PM

--Alone in Berlin

I don't know the exact names to call the officials, but apparently after WWII a government official in Germany had a friend who was in some
emotional difficulty and trouble for some reason and he gave him some research materials the Government had to give his friend something
to do and try to straighten out his life. His friend took this material and wrote a novel from it and did it in something like a month. Before the
novel was published, however, the man committed suicide. The novel was published in 1946.

The novel was never published in English until 2010. The research material that the novel is based on is about a married couple in Berlin. He is
a furniture factory foreman. Their very young son is killed in the war and while they read the propagandistic newspapers that they realize are
full of lies, the only thing the husband can think to do, and his wife is drawn into it, to deal with their grief, is to start writing postcards and leaving
them around the streets of Berlin. The postcards attempt to tell anyone who gets one of these to stop believing the lies, to think for themselves
and to pass them on. Though seemingly inconsequential in the larger picture, the act of doing this starts to give their lives meaning and integrity
that they wouldn't have otherwise. People turn the postcards in to the Nazi officials, obviously, who can't take any opposition, so there is danger
of being caught and dealt with.

I know some would think this a rather stupid or futile idea, and have expressed so in some reviews I looked up, but the humanity of this couple
and the simple act of rebellion; standing up the only real way they felt they could, I find pretty amazing if one is empathetic about it. The fact that
the real material was kept by the German high command and not just destroyed is interesting, too, and interviews with the cast and director in an
extras section gives some insight into this whole thing.

Myself, I find hitherto unknown things about a topic, like WWII, infinitely fascinating. It's like adding pieces to a quilt that gives it more meaning
and texture. (Like the recent WWII film The Zookeeper's Wife, or the book I read once about the U.S. Military program that was trying to make
incendiary bombs using bats to deliver them. The book was called Bat Bomb. Or the book Coming Out Under Fire detailing all of the LGBT people
who participated in WWII and their stories, things like that.

The film is dated as 2016, but I hadn't heard of it before.  It stars Emma Thompson, Daniel Bruhl and Brendan Gleeson.
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Post by: Gazapete on June 18, 2018, 02:05:00 AM
You probably mean this novel:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Every_Man_Dies_Alone

The writer is Hans Fallada. He didn't commit suicide, but was a morphine addict and died because of it.

"At the time of Fallada's death in February 1947, aged 53, from a weakened heart from years of addiction to morphine, alcohol and other drugs, he had recently completed Every Man Dies Alone, an anti-fascist novel based on the true story of a German couple, Otto and Elise Hampel, who were executed for producing and distributing anti-Nazi material in Berlin during the war.[14] According to Jenny Williams, he wrote the book in a "white heat"—a mere 24 days. Fallada died just weeks before the publication of this final novel. He was buried in Pankow, a borough of Berlin, but was later moved to Carwitz where he had lived from 1933 till 1944. After Fallada's death, because of possible neglect and continuing addiction on the part of his second wife and sole heir, many of his unpublished works were lost or sold."

I haven't seen the film, but the book made a huge impression on me when I first read it. It's too often forgotten that the first victims of Hitler were the German people who opposed him, they were being sent to concentration camps already in 1933. This books reminds us of the fight of the little anonymous people. Thanks for talking about it, Lyle.
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on June 18, 2018, 02:34:18 AM
--Alone in Berlin

Based on Hans Fallada's masterpiece novel (from the war era) JEDER STIRBT FÜR SICH ALLEIN.

Everyone dies for himself/herself - in an isolated manner.
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on June 18, 2018, 02:34:50 AM
You probably mean this novel:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Every_Man_Dies_Alone

The writer is Hans Fallada. He didn't commit suicide, but was a morphine addict and died because of it.

"At the time of Fallada's death in February 1947, aged 53, from a weakened heart from years of addiction to morphine, alcohol and other drugs, he had recently completed Every Man Dies Alone, an anti-fascist novel based on the true story of a German couple, Otto and Elise Hampel, who were executed for producing and distributing anti-Nazi material in Berlin during the war.[14] According to Jenny Williams, he wrote the book in a "white heat"—a mere 24 days. Fallada died just weeks before the publication of this final novel. He was buried in Pankow, a borough of Berlin, but was later moved to Carwitz where he had lived from 1933 till 1944. After Fallada's death, because of possible neglect and continuing addiction on the part of his second wife and sole heir, many of his unpublished works were lost or sold."

I haven't seen the film, but the book made a huge impression on me when I first read it. It's too often forgotten that the first victims of Hitler were the German people who opposed him, they were being sent to concentration camps already in 1933. This books reminds us of the fight of the little anonymous people. Thanks for talking about it, Lyle.

Ah, Elenita replied already.

Never mind.   :)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 18, 2018, 10:33:34 AM
Elena and Ingy, yes, that's what I was referring to.

I got the title of the book from the end credits. Maybe that's the English title. The issue of whether he committed suicide or not...both the director of the film, Vincent Perez, and at least one of the actors, who talked about the film in interview sequences on the dvd did indeed say he committed suicide. That where I got that information. In the info you quoted, a bit of it also contradicts what was said, that the book was published afterwards. The date in the quote indicates it was beforehand. So, now we have some discrepancies in the two sources.

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Post by: Gazapete on June 18, 2018, 10:46:34 AM
Hm, I quoted from Wikipedia. From what I understand, he wrote the novel in 1945-1946 but it was published in 1947. I wanted to check my copy but can't find it, I need to stop borrowing books, they never come back.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Fallada
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Post by: Gazapete on June 18, 2018, 10:51:38 AM
Ah, and about the suicide, he attempted suicide but survived, says Wikipedia.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 18, 2018, 10:52:37 AM

Did you know there was a movie?
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Post by: Gazapete on June 18, 2018, 11:00:20 AM
I had heard of it, but had completely forgotten it. There was not much promotion for it, was there? And I love Daniel Brühl, how could I miss it. I'm going to look for it, but I loved the book so much that I am a bit scared of the movie.
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on June 18, 2018, 11:26:12 AM

And I - sorry to say - don't like Daniel Brühl at all, it's an actor I can't stand. From the beginning, from Goodbye Lenin, I felt strong antipathy towards him (which has increased over the years).
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Post by: Gazapete on June 18, 2018, 12:04:54 PM
Really? I do like him. Have you seen "Salvador"? It's about Salvador Puig Antich, an anarchist from Barcelona killed during the dicatorship, I think he was the last person to be executed in Spain? I also liked him in "Die fetten Jahre sind vorbei" and specially "Das weisse Rauschen" I think he was great in this last one.
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Post by: brian on June 18, 2018, 12:34:21 PM
I had to check. I saw 'Goodbye Lenin' but fell in love with him in "Ladies in Lavender", he was so cute. One of the few movies I have seen twice and bought the DVD.  Of course it has my 2 favourite dames in it but Daniel also helped make it wonderful for me.
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Post by: Gazapete on June 18, 2018, 01:26:41 PM
I haven't seen that one, but these two ladies, wow, don't they make him disappear?
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on June 18, 2018, 02:12:27 PM
I had to check. I saw 'Goodbye Lenin' but fell in love with him in "Ladies in Lavender", he was so cute. One of the few movies I have seen twice and bought the DVD.  Of course it has my 2 favourite dames in it but Daniel also helped make it wonderful for me.

I must say that I hated - really hated - that movie. Total kitsch, if you ask me. And he is sooooooooooooo not my kind of dude.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 20, 2018, 01:44:29 PM
There was not much promotion for it, was there? And I love Daniel Brühl, how could I miss it.
I'm going to look for it, but I loved the book so much that I am a bit scared of the movie.

Judging by the scant reviews on Rotten TOmatoes and no audience reviews, It doesn't seem
like it even got a U.S. release.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 22, 2018, 09:51:11 AM
Lyle, I trust your judgment, but I think I'll skip this one and stick with The Philadelphia Story. For me, Crosby and Sinatra just can't compete with Grant and Stewart.

Guess what TCM showed Wednesday evening?  :D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 22, 2018, 10:43:13 AM

High Society!

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 22, 2018, 11:00:01 AM
High Society!

Sorry, you just lost on Jeopardy!  :D

Actually, is there a Ruth Hussey character in High Society?

A bit of dialog from The Philadelphia Story that still makes me laugh even though I've heard it a thousand times:

Cary Grant: Liz, can you use a typewriter?

Ruth Hussey: No, thanks, I've got one at home.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 23, 2018, 09:36:18 AM
Last night I watched The Philadelphia Experiment on DVD. Despite the presence of Michael Pare as star, I probably would not have watched this movie unless Lyle had mentioned it because sci-fi isn't my genre. I was a little surprised to find that I liked it better than I expected.

I wonder if, at the time the movie was released, anybody here in Philadelphia quibbled at it? I thought it was San Francisco Bay standing in for Philadelphia, but apparently it was Charleston, South Carolina. In any case, Philadelphia doesn't have a harbor. There was an immense naval base in far South Philadelphia on the Delaware River, which is deep enough for large ocean-going ships. The Navy Yard, as it was called, has been closed for years. I haven't been down that way in years, so for all I know there still could be lots of decommissioned naval vessels tied up down there.

Anyway, the movie reminded me of a thought about Michael Pare that crossed my mind when I was watching one of the Eddie and the Cruisers movies: I wonder if his accent had anything to do with his not becoming a bigger star when he was young and hot? He was born in Brooklyn, and the thought crossed my mind last night that maybe you can take the boy out of Brooklyn but you can't take Brooklyn out of the boy? His accent isn't a "dese" and "dose" kind of Brooklynese, but it's definitely Brooklyn, and similar to South Phiadelphia. (I've noticed that Brooklyn and South Philadelphia accents sound a lot alike.)

Pare's accent seemed perfectly appropriate for Eddie Wilson. We don't know where Eddie was born, but in one scene you can catch Sal, Eddie's oldest friend, say that South Philly was nothing like the college campus where the Cruisers were to perform. I'd say there was no reason not to think that Eddie Wilson may have been born in South Philadelphia. South Philly gave the world Frankie Avalon and Fabian--both of whom were born about the time the fictional Eddie Wilson would have been born--so why not Eddie Wilson?

But I'm digressing. Of course Michael Pare did a lot more things in the Eighties and Nineties than I've seen so far, but based on what I have seen, I've begun to wonder if his accent had some effect on limiting the roles he was offered. In The Philadelphia Experiment, he has the same accent as he has in the Eddie movies. In TPE, his character's father lived in California yet it's mentioned that they moved to California from New Jersey. Was that to account for Pare's accent?

Of course, I could be entirely wrong in my wondering, and I'm perfectly aware of that, and it doesn't mean I like Michael Pare any less.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 23, 2018, 10:24:13 AM

Being that you live there, had you heard about that "Philadelphia Experiment" before?

It seems to be that "something" happened there during WWII and it's become like the Roswell incident. Although not as well known. What actually happened?
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 23, 2018, 11:09:09 AM
Being that you live there, had you heard about that "Philadelphia Experiment" before?

I was aware of the movie title, another part of the mystery of how I knew Michael Pare in the Eighties when it seems I saw nothing he was in.  :laugh:

I'm not aware of any incident here in the Second World War. Despite not being a port city, Philadelphia once had a tremendously important shipbuilding industry. A lot of vessels for World War II were built here. (A lot of "Rosie the Riveters" worked here.) Maybe there was some accident at the Navy Yard that gave rise to rumors, but I'm not aware of anything.
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Post by: CellarDweller115 on June 23, 2018, 06:15:09 PM
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They wiggled, they jiggled, they wore low cut gowns and short shorts, they kowtowed to the club owners and smiled at the customers...and they did it all, just to play the music they loved. THE GIRLS IN THE BAND tells the poignant, untold stories of female jazz and big band instrumentalists and their fascinating, groundbreaking journeys from the late 30′s to the present day. These incredibly talented women endured sexism, racism and diminished opportunities for decades, yet continued to persevere, inspire and elevate their talents in a field that seldom welcomed them. Today a new breed of gifted young women is taking their rightful place in the world of jazz which can no longer deny their talents.



Official Trailer ~ The Girls In The Band (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYfP2ylrq3A)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 24, 2018, 09:58:39 AM
^^^

I believe most of us only know female jazz musicians from the the all girl
band musicians in Some Like It Hot.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 27, 2018, 07:12:11 AM
In some releases of My Fair Lady to home video, they have a couple segments with Audrey Hepburn singing two of the
numbers in her own voice.

TCM showed My Fair Lady last night. I watched some but not all of it (missed the beginning, came in at "Why Can't the English Learn to Speak"; cut out when Higgins confronts Eliza at his mother's house).

It seems I've always been so focused on Audrey Hepburn that I forgot the pleasure of Rex Harrison as Prof. Higgins. I have the London stage cast album; through the years I've tended to listen to that more than watch the movie. At least the record has Julie Andrews singing for Julie Andrews. ...
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 03, 2018, 11:43:02 AM
--My Summer Story

This is a 1994 sequel to A Christmas Story, not to be confused with the relatively recent A Christmas Story 2,
where Ralphie is a teenager. This "summer" sequel takes place the following summer after A Christmas Story
takes place. It was released 11 years after the original, so the casting could not have been the same, so it
does make me wonder why they waited ten years to make it. It was actually released in theaters as "It Runs
in the Family."

This film should not be confused with a 1988 British film called A Summer Story, that starred James Wilby, from
Maurice, which I'd recommend.

In this film, the mother and father are played by Charles Grodin and Mary Steenburgen. The two sons are played by
Macaulay Culkin's brothers, Kieran and Christian.

What it has going for it is that it's the same director, Bob Clark, who also had a hand in the screenplay, and the
narrator for the film is the same, Jean Shepherd. They also use a lot of the same music cues from the first film,
which really add to the atmosphere.

What it doesn't have going for it is that it's just not the same without the original actors. Especially when they have
all the same characters as Ralphie's friends. When Ralphie's in school, they also have the same actress who played
his teacher and that distracts and is welcome at the same time.

If it had been the same cast, I doubt it would have gained the same affection as A Christmas Story did, but it
has a lot of humor in it. The biggest flaw is probably Charles Grodin because when Darren McGavin played grumpy
and annoyed, you felt for him somewhat, but when Grodin does it, he just comes across as a pompous ass of sorts.

Like A Christmas Story, this film has several plots going on. One is that Ralphie is in a search of a "top" that can defeat
his nemesis Scut Farkus in their battle game. Another is the Mom's increasing annoyance at a movie theater manager's
dinnerware nights. Another is the father's fish catching competition and Ralphie gets drawn into that one. And throughout
is the family's feud with their "hillbilly neighbors" the Bumpas's. In this film we actually see the entire brood whereas
they were only hinted at in the original, but the hounds are still ever present.

I guess I watched A Christmas Story 2 last December and this film now, because I like the original so much, one is
looking for the magic to ignite you again, and while there's flickers of it in these two films, without the original people
it's just not going to happen, but one can find a few glimmers of it in both films, so in that sense it was worth a look!
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Post by: oilgun on July 07, 2018, 08:03:34 PM
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Beast - (2018) Michael Pearce. Starring Johnny Flynn and Jessie Buckley.
From RT:
Moll is 27 and still living at home, stifled by the small island community around her and too beholden to her family to break away. When she meets Pascal, a free-spirited stranger, a whole new world opens up to her and she begins to feel alive for the first time, falling madly in love. Finally breaking free from her family, Moll moves in with Pascal to start a new life. But when he is arrested as the key suspect in a series of brutal murders, she is left isolated and afraid. Choosing to stand with him against the suspicions of the community, Moll finds herself forced to make choices that will impact her life forever.

I loved this film. The performances by the leads are electrifying. Jessie Buckley is a revelation and Johnny Flynn, channeling Charlie Hunnam, is dangerously charismatic.  A satisfyingly twisted psychodrama.  I do have issues with the ending though, I wish it had been a bit more ambiguous.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/beast
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Post by: gattaca on July 08, 2018, 07:33:12 AM
Saw "Ant-Man and the Wasp" at the IMAX in 2D on Saturday.  It was not crowded.  The film is a nice diversion from the "...my goal is to destroy or rule the universe with as many explosions as I can muster..." super-hero films we have subjected to the past few years - where each installment ratchets up the ante.  Don't get me wrong, there's a place for those...and these.  If you are expecting the former, then this film will not be your speed.   

This story keeps things simple which is why there were a lot of younger kids at this 14:00 showing on rainy Saturday.  There's nothing in this film too scary (or graphic or violent) and it ends up being fun if you just let yourself "go with the flow"  I had the most fun watching for SF streets they filmed on (Mason, Pacific, ... and the infamous twisting road...) There are also scenes filmed in Savannah, GA.

Ebert's site -> https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/ant-man-and-the-wasp-2018
Rotten --> https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ant_man_and_the_wasp

BLUF:  Nice, don't gotta think too hard, storytelling. 

Paul Rudd does a great job...and I missed that the mom was Michelle Pfeiffer until the credits rolled. 
For those who like to honor the credits, there are 2 post clips embedded.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 08, 2018, 12:49:09 PM
^^^

Hollywood has gone on super-hero overload for so long now, that even hearing about a new
movie makes me roll my eyes. They should not be main courses, but occasional treats. It's
like junk food has taken over the movie biz (and TV biz, too, if you notice) but that doesn't
mean I'm resistant to them at one time or another.

I enjoyed the first Ant Man, so I am interested in this one. I also have a friend who
saw it and really enjoyed it. When I will see it, is another question, though!

It's like animated films, especially those from Disney, used to be an occasional event. With
the advent of computer animation it became easier to make animated films and now there
seems to be one out every week!

I do wish, though, that an animation studio would do an occasional animated film like they used to.
Probably because I grew up on them that way, but they are a different look and one that I miss seeing
now and then. Occasionally the animators will do an homage to that kind of animation in their credit
sequences of new releases or, on one occasion, they did flashbacks in that style, but it's not normal or
regular now.

It seems to me the last animated film done that way, at least one that I really liked, was Lilo & Stitch.
I looked it up just now, that was way back in 2002! Sixteen years ago!



Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 09, 2018, 10:56:52 AM
It's like animated films, especially those from Disney, used to be an occasional event. With
the advent of computer animation it became easier to make animated films and now there
seems to be one out every week!

I do wish, though, that an animation studio would do an occasional animated film like they used to.
Probably because I grew up on them that way, but they are a different look and one that I miss seeing
now and then. Occasionally the animators will do an homage to that kind of animation in their credit
sequences of new releases or, on one occasion, they did flashbacks in that style, but it's not normal or
regular now.

It seems to me the last animated film done that way, at least one that I really liked, was Lilo & Stitch.
I looked it up just now, that was way back in 2002! Sixteen years ago!

It would be a shame if making animated films "the old-fashioned way" became a lost art.

I imagine it took training as well as talent to work on those films the old way. Is anybody even being trained to do that anymore?
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 09, 2018, 10:59:39 AM
--Coco

Has anyone seen this? I searched the thread and found one mention of it by Gazapete (is that Elena?)
concerning "listening to the song in the cinema" while a discussion of the Best Song nominees was going on,
but that was it.

What an original, ambitious and effective film this is. It's quite a work of art. It falters maybe once, due to
stretching out one plot point somewhat longer than it needed to be, but I was fascinated by the latest Pixar
film. The song "Remember Me" deserved it's awards. It is integral to the plot and is seen in two different lights
during the film making it even more effective. The visual palette is unique and often stunning. Pixar's track
record of good to great animated films is astounding.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: gattaca on July 09, 2018, 03:43:06 PM
It would be a shame if making animated films "the old-fashioned way" became a lost art.

I imagine it took training as well as talent to work on those films the old way. Is anybody even being trained to do that anymore?

I believe Hayao Miyazaki still does his films with hand-drawn animation or least did more recently than Disney.  They are a pleasure to watch and the stories are awesome.   V.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayao_Miyazaki
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 10, 2018, 10:49:10 AM

Vincent, I know that many like his films, including some friends of mine, but for
some reason they don't interest me at all.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 15, 2018, 10:57:26 AM
Thanks to our local PBS station, last evening I finally saw a Hitchcock film that I'd never seen before: North by Northwest.

I guess just about everyone, at one time or another, has seen clips from this movie (crop duster, Mt. Rushmore), but I'd never seen the movie. I didn't look it up before I watched it--I didn't know PBS was showing it until it started--so I was surprised to see familiar faces in the supporting cast: James Mason, Martin Landau, Leo G. Carroll.

Of course, for me, the scenes involving the New York Central Railroad's "flagship" train the Twentieth Century Limited were an added bit of fun (I love trains).

I think--I THINK--this is the first time I actually caught "Hitch" in his quick little cameo in this movie. In all of his films that I've ever seen, sometimes multiple times, I've never been able to pick him out. I hope I'm right about this time.

Incidentally, in my opinion, Cary Grant and Eva Marie Saint were too old for their roles, and the actress playing Cary Grant's mother was much too young for hers!

(As I write this, Turner Classics is showing Casablanca yet again. I have it on "for company.")
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Gazapete on July 15, 2018, 12:37:20 PM
--Coco

Has anyone seen this? I searched the thread and found one mention of it by Gazapete (is that Elena?)
concerning "listening to the song in the cinema" while a discussion of the Best Song nominees was going on,
but that was it.

What an original, ambitious and effective film this is. It's quite a work of art. It falters maybe once, due to
stretching out one plot point somewhat longer than it needed to be, but I was fascinated by the latest Pixar
film. The song "Remember Me" deserved it's awards. It is integral to the plot and is seen in two different lights
during the film making it even more effective. The visual palette is unique and often stunning. Pixar's track
record of good to great animated films is astounding.

Yes, that was me. No dry eye in the cinema during "Remember Me". I really liked it and my child loved it, for different reasons, I guess. I found the mexican imaginary beautiful, the colours and the sounds, and the story goes a bit beyond, as always with pixar. Now we have an 8 year old boy really confused about death!
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Post by: oilgun on July 22, 2018, 05:32:56 PM
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Armie Hammer has been busy.  Today I saw Sorry To Bother You and was surprised to see that Armie was in it with probably his most over the top performance. The film is a brilliant satire and social commentary and possibly the funniest, and craziest film of the year.  It's fresh, original and laugh out loud funny. It's also timely and thought provoking. Loved it! It was also nice to see Steven Yeun from the Walking Dead.

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/sorry-to-bother-you-2018
 
Boots Riley’s “Sorry to Bother You” is an adrenalin-shot of a comedy and a fearless dissection of identity politics, corporate malevolence, and the American tendency to look the other way when confronted with horror. In this brilliant satire, people gather around their TVs every night to watch a show called “I Got the Sh*t Kicked Out of Me” and embrace a new lifestyle called WorryFree, which is very clearly corporate slavery advertised as something good for you. There is so much to unpack here in a film that recalls Terry Gilliam, Michel Gondry, and Jonathan Swift, but it is basically the story of a man forced to finally see the injustice around him. Riley’s movie is designed to do the same thing to you. Pay attention.

[...]

Great satires don’t hold back, and Riley turns most of his choices up to 11. For example, he could have had Stanfield mimic a “white voice,” but he dubs Stanfield with another actor. From the beginning, he’s making clear that this is an exaggerated, insane world—a funhouse mirror version of our own that only film could provide. That riskiness leads to a final act of insanity that will lose some people—both times I’ve seen the movie you could sense part of the theater tuning out as the movie takes a turn into sci-fi. For me, I love it when a filmmaker doesn’t pull back from the edge, but goes right over it. So while that part of the film may be weaker than what came before, I still respect the willingness to go there.
You’ll see a lot of movies this summer that feel like the product of focus groups and marketing teams. Every frame and choice in “Sorry to Bother You” feels like the opposite—a pronouncement of a major new talent. I can’t wait to see what he does next.

Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeISaoQDh2g

 

 


Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 24, 2018, 09:59:43 AM
^^^

Trippy!

It seems I'm missing what films are coming out lately! Don't they advertise much on TV anymore.
Except the blockbusters.

Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 24, 2018, 12:56:46 PM

--Born to Be Bad

This is a movie from 1950 about a conniving woman who wants it all, even if it means manipulating husbands and other men to get it, all done with a facade of sweetness and light. Frankly, the film seemed a bit too tame and I wanted the woman to be badder (!).  I did like watching it for the rather large cast of actors in it. Joan Fontaine played the lead, and the rest of the cast contained Robert Ryan, Zachary Scott, Joan Leslie and Mel Ferrer.

A friend of mine had gotten this from Warner Archives and the dvd had an intriguing extra...an alternate ending!  Apparently this ending has only recently (within the past 5 years) begun being seen. In 1950, if your lead character was "born to be bad" she had to redeemed or punished. In the alternate ending she's badder than the ending they ended up with, but really, in both movies, the characters are all pretty irredeemable! (Except Joan Leslie. Did she ever play a bad girl at all or always nice?)

Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 24, 2018, 01:26:41 PM

--Hairspray (1988)

Last night a few of us attended AMPAS's 30th anniversary (!) screening celebration of Hairspray.  I knew I really liked this movie, but I have not seen it for such a long time and I'd forgotten how really funny and enjoyable it is!  Along with a sold out theater of admiring fans it was such a treat. I haven't laughed so much in I don't know how long.

In addition to the film, it was preceded by a panel discussion of the film that was moderated by Barry Jenkins (Moonlight writer/director) and the panel included John Waters, Ricki Lake, Colleen Fitzpatrick, Deborah Harry, Mink Stole, Clayton Prince and Pia Zadora.

This is a photo of the panel at the pre-screening festivities. (Invitation only, heh!)

(http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Academy+Presents+Hairspray+1988+30th+Anniversary+KPoBZBU7J81x.jpg)

L to R: Academy President John Bailey, Clayton Prince, Ricki Lake, John Waters (I love his jacket-I'd wear that!), Deborah Harry, Pia Zadora, Colleen Fitzpatrick, Mink Stole and Barry Jenkins.


Before the film several trailers of John Waters films were shown, including one for Pink Flamingos that entirely consisted of
interviews of people coming out of showings of the film and telling how disgusting they thought it was. Heh!  The audience
gave a nice ovation to Tab Hunter when he appeared on screen for the Polyester trailer. After the trailers was a vintage PSA
for not smoking in the theater that John Waters appeared in and it was quite amusing as he was smoking all the way through it.

If anyone is interested in the panel discussion, AMPAS has put a slightly edited version of it on youtube in 5 separate segments.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJ8RjvesnvDNI32qJJFXtgAa0b_Lli_zu

This morning I looked up the actor, Michael St. Gerard, in Hairspray who played Linc. He was so handsome, a great dancer, very
amusing and appealing and talented, that I wondered why we hadn't heard from him since. After Hairspray he was in several things
and he played "Elvis" twice in films, Heart of Dixie (1989) and Great Balls of Fire! (1989) and then in a ten episode TV mini-series
about Elvis's younger days. Then the biography states: "In 1994, St. Gerard had a spiritual awakening after leading a Sunday School
class, and, with it, decided to retire and focus his energies on religious instruction. He subsequently became a pastor in the Harlem
area of New York City, extending himself and his church in particular to inner-city youths, and spends little time reflecting on his past
stardom."

Michael and Ricki in Hairspray

(https://cdn.moviestillsdb.com/i/500x/dlre0god/hairspray-lg.jpg)

And I found out that he was a from a small town not too far away from where I grew up: New York Mills, NY.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 24, 2018, 02:41:54 PM
Oh, he was handsome. Interesting that he was already teaching Sunday school when he had his spiritual awakening.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 25, 2018, 07:39:33 AM
Yesterday evening Turner Classics showed Badlands. I'd never seen it, and I figured it was one of those "duty movies," something everyone who likes classic movies should see, so I watched it.

Kind of a weird flick.

Sissy Spacek's child-voice delivery of her lines I found very annoying, though I think it was appropriate for her child-like character. Her voice reminded me, just reminded me, of Mayella Ewell in To Kill a Mockingbird.

The music struck me as weird, too, especially the music over the closing credits. It sounded like carnival music, something like you might hear on a merry-go-round, though I expect that was Terrence Malik's point.

And then again, Martin Sheen was, well, Martin Sheen. Has he ever not been good in something? I want to watch this film again some day, just so I can really concentrate on his performance. (As so often happens to me on a weeknight, I was multi-tasking while I had the movie on the TV, and I wasn't able to concentrate as intently as I might have liked.)
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 26, 2018, 07:30:55 AM
Last night TCM showed The Foxes of Harrow (see mine above about multi-tasking  ::) ). I never saw that one, either, so I checked it out. Not very good, I'm afraid. Clearly a rip-off of Gone With the Wind, except set in Louisiana and before the Civil War (it ends with a dramatization of the financial crisis of 1857). However, no movie with Maureen O'Hara in it is ever a total loss. Rex Harrison also stars.

After the movie, Ben Mankiewicz discussed it with a scholar whose name I'm afraid I immediately forgot. Both agreed that the novel on which the film is based is a lot better. They said the novel contains a lot more voodoo (!) than is included in the movie, and the novel also delves more deeply in to the issues slavery and race relations.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on July 26, 2018, 10:08:46 AM

Now that movie title is a new one on me!

I laughed when you wrote "it ends with a dramatization of the financial crisis of 1857."

Not exactly an enticing advertising come on, lol!

Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 26, 2018, 10:37:34 AM
Now that movie title is a new one on me!

I laughed when you wrote "it ends with a dramatization of the financial crisis of 1857."

Not exactly an enticing advertising come on, lol!

Really? You, of all people, never heard of The Foxes of Harrow?

(Fox is the family name, Harrow is the plantation.)

Well, if I'd written "the Panic of 1857," which is historically accurate and what they called those things in those days, I figured nobody would understand what I was talking about.

Spoiler Alert: It's important because the Harrows are wiped out financially and nearly lose the plantation.

And the parallels to thefts from Gone With the Wind are so blatantly obvious. If the novel is that way, Margaret Mitchell, or her estate, should have sued for plagiarism.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: BlueAmber63 on July 27, 2018, 06:21:17 PM
OK...I'll fess up !!

Yesterday....I went to see the movie "Mama Mia...here we go again" for the
2nd time in a week. I described it so well to my 6 and 8 year old grandaughters
(who go to a dance and music class!!)  they begged me to take them to see it
too.
Yes.....I know....it's just a fluffy girly romcom...but it's also a great vehical
for the fabulous songs and music ABBA gave us.
The girls and me loved it. Great escapist movie.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: killersmom on July 27, 2018, 06:46:03 PM
I want to see this one as well, Sue.
My granddaughter (who is 4 yo) and I went to see Hotel Transylvania 3: Summer Vacation. We both thoroughly enjoyed it and she belly laughed several times through the movie. This is the first movie she has seen in a theater.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on July 29, 2018, 07:32:22 PM
My condo community receives HBO as part of its package from Comcast. I tend to forget this most of the time, but this evening I remembered it just in time to catch Victoria and Abdul. I'm glad I got to see it. I liked it.  :)

Whatever are we going to do when Judi Dench leaves us? Nobody does imperious like her.  :)

And Ali Fazal is ... hot. ...  ::)
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Post by: Sara B on July 30, 2018, 06:10:51 AM
OK...I'll fess up !!

Yesterday....I went to see the movie "Mama Mia...here we go again" for the
2nd time in a week. I described it so well to my 6 and 8 year old grandaughters
(who go to a dance and music class!!)  they begged me to take them to see it
too.
Yes.....I know....it's just a fluffy girly romcom...but it's also a great vehical
for the fabulous songs and music ABBA gave us.
The girls and me loved it. Great escapist movie.

I saw it at the weekend too. I liked Mamma Mia well enough when it first came out (can’t believe it’s 10 years ago) but over the years it’s really grown on me, particularly when my grandchildren loved it. (“But Granny, how doesn’t she know which one’s the father?”)

I thought this one was a little slow to get going, in the Oxford and Paris scenes (wasn’t too keen on the young ‘Colin Firth’), but once it was all on the Greek, actually Croatian, island it really took off and I got right into the mood and thoroughly enjoyed it, tears and all. I wished I’d had my grandchildren with me too!

Lily James was excellent as the young Donna.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Sara B on July 30, 2018, 06:17:15 AM
My codo community receives HBO as part of its package from Comcast. I tend to forget this most of the time, but this evening I remembered it just in time to catch Victoria and Abdul. I'm glad I got to see it. I liked it.  :)

Whatever are we going to do when Judi Dench leaves us? Nobody does imperious like her.  :)

And Ali Fazal is ... hot. ...  ::)

I never got to that, but would like to see it. Agree about Judi Dench!
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Sara B on July 30, 2018, 06:18:35 AM
I want to see this one as well, Sue.
My granddaughter (who is 4 yo) and I went to see Hotel Transylvania 3: Summer Vacation. We both thoroughly enjoyed it and she belly laughed several times through the movie. This is the first movie she has seen in a theater.

The first movie in a cinema is a very special occasion! How lovely that she reacted so well. :)
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Post by: Flyboy on July 30, 2018, 10:07:14 AM
I watched 2 gay-themed films this weekend, one: Lazy Eye, I didn't really care for, although it did have a different storyline and ending than what I expected. The other I loved, and can't believe I never heard of it before, a French film called Being 17. I'm sure a few people here have seen it. Great film. Both are on Netflix.
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Post by: B.W. on July 30, 2018, 01:28:24 PM
I believe Hayao Miyazaki still does his films with hand-drawn animation or least did more recently than Disney.  They are a pleasure to watch and the stories are awesome.   V.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayao_Miyazaki



I really enjoy Disney's English-dubbed version of Miyazaki's Japanese animated theatrical film "Kiki's Delivery Service" (1989).
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Post by: B.W. on July 30, 2018, 01:35:56 PM
It would be a shame if making animated films "the old-fashioned way" became a lost art.

I imagine it took training as well as talent to work on those films the old way. Is anybody even being trained to do that anymore?


I really like Disney's animated theatrical films that were drawn by hand over the ones that are filmed with the computer-generated imagery style of animation.  The style of animation that was used in Disney's "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" (1996) is just spectacular, even though the film deals with some really dark themes and elements, I think that it is rather underrated, underappreciated and undervalued to a certain degree. I just watched the film again, perhaps it isn't the most accurate theatrical film adaptation of the "Notre Dame de Paris" (1831) novel that I have seen, but I do think that it is a much better film than what most film critics and moviegoers say it is. I liked it ever since I watched it with some of my friends and their children.
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Post by: B.W. on July 30, 2018, 01:52:32 PM
I don't think I was much older when I saw it for the first time. And Ghostbusters, or Indiana Jones, or even Poltergeist (well, maybe I was older for this one). And they didn't traumatise me (too much). I have the feeling that today movies for kids are sooo childish and PC that sometimes they treat them as if they were babys. Anyway, he had a blast with Airplane  :laugh:



Yeah.  I think all the jokes about flatulence, anuses, feces and defecation in so many films and television shows that are geared towards kids are highly irritating and just plain gross.  Have you ever seen Disney's " The Watcher in the Woods" (1980) with Bette Davis, that film has a creepy atmosphere to me, I watched it with a friend and her kids and we all that that it was rather eerie.
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Post by: B.W. on July 30, 2018, 01:57:22 PM
^^^

Hollywood has gone on super-hero overload for so long now, that even hearing about a new
movie makes me roll my eyes. They should not be main courses, but occasional treats. It's
like junk food has taken over the movie biz (and TV biz, too, if you notice) but that doesn't
mean I'm resistant to them at one time or another.

I enjoyed the first Ant Man, so I am interested in this one. I also have a friend who
saw it and really enjoyed it. When I will see it, is another question, though!

It's like animated films, especially those from Disney, used to be an occasional event. With
the advent of computer animation it became easier to make animated films and now there
seems to be one out every week!

I do wish, though, that an animation studio would do an occasional animated film like they used to.
Probably because I grew up on them that way, but they are a different look and one that I miss seeing
now and then. Occasionally the animators will do an homage to that kind of animation in their credit
sequences of new releases or, on one occasion, they did flashbacks in that style, but it's not normal or
regular now.

It seems to me the last animated film done that way, at least one that I really liked, was Lilo & Stitch.
I looked it up just now, that was way back in 2002! Sixteen years ago!


I agree.  I think that's its annoying with all of these superhero-themed film that are being released in theaters.  However, I thought that the cinematography in " The Avengers" (2012) was excellent though.
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Post by: CellarDweller115 on July 30, 2018, 04:39:01 PM
OK...I'll fess up !!

Yesterday....I went to see the movie "Mama Mia...here we go again" for the 2nd time in a week. I described it so well to my 6 and 8 year old grandaughters (who go to a dance and music class!!)  they begged me to take them to see it too.

Yes.....I know....it's just a fluffy girly romcom...but it's also a great vehical for the fabulous songs and music ABBA gave us.  The girls and me loved it. Great escapist movie.

I saw it at the weekend too. I liked Mamma Mia well enough when it first came out (can’t believe it’s 10 years ago) but over the years it’s really grown on me, particularly when my grandchildren loved it. (“But Granny, how doesn’t she know which one’s the father?”)

I thought this one was a little slow to get going, in the Oxford and Paris scenes (wasn’t too keen on the young ‘Colin Firth’), but once it was all on the Greek, actually Croatian, island it really took off and I got right into the mood and thoroughly enjoyed it, tears and all. I wished I’d had my grandchildren with me too!

Lily James was excellent as the young Donna.


My mom posted to Facebook that she went to see it with friends,  and had a fun time, she really enjoyed it!
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Post by: oilgun on July 30, 2018, 05:53:41 PM
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I watched the horror film Hereditary. It's one those films that critics love but audiences not so much. It's a deliberately paced classic horror film, at times reminiscent of Rosemary's Baby,  and the feeling of dread slowly mounts as we watch this depressing family living in this depressing dark house, start to unravel. Some early scenes are just too long but others are very effectively frightening and horrific. The acting is excellent, Toni Colette is especially amazing, and the cinematography is gorgeous  Unfortunately the film changes tone near the end and kind of falls apart. So much so that some audience members burst out laughing, me included.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 01, 2018, 07:25:33 PM
Sunday of this coming weekend is apparently Katharine Hepburn night on TCM. The schedule shows Pat and Mike at 6 p.m., Bringing Up Baby at 8 p.m., and Desk Set at 10 p.m.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 02, 2018, 01:59:58 PM

--Where the Sidewalk Ends

This is a 1950 film noir directed by Nicholas Ray and starring Dana Andrews, Gene Tierney,
Gary Merrill and Karl Malden.

It's about a detective cop (Andrews) who is warned about being too aggressive in his duties
that after a man succumbs in his custody through understandable circumstances that he didn't
know about, he lies about it which causes no shortage of trouble when others get blamed for it.
A great many film noirs have lead characters who get embroiled in circumstances they have to
deal with that are thrust upon them and not of their doing, but it's harder to root for a guy who
brings it all upon himself. It's a serviceable and watchable movie, but hardly memorable as you
might expect with the talent involved.
 
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 02, 2018, 02:13:38 PM

--Bombshell: The Hedy Lamarr Story

This is a fascinating portrait of actress (and inventor) Hedy Lamarr, often narrated by Hedy herself,
because of several hours of interview tapes that were discovered. It covers her early life, Hollywood
career, her inquisitive and inventive mind, how under appreciated her intellect was because she was
a beautiful woman and many other things. It was in theatres last year, shown on PBS's American
Experience once and available in many ways since. Highly recommended.

Interestingly, an episode of this years TIMELESS had Hedy as a main character in the episode,
played by an actress, of course. It's on Hulu if anyone is interested in that as an aside. The
episode title is "Hollywoodland."
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Post by: Sara B on August 02, 2018, 02:26:48 PM
Cloud Atlas - extremely complex with 6 interwoven stories, but after a bit I stop struggling and just enjoyed it.
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Post by: B.W. on August 02, 2018, 05:10:19 PM
Sunday of this coming weekend is apparently Katharine Hepburn night on TCM. The schedule shows Pat and Mike at 6 p.m., Bringing Up Baby at 8 p.m., and Desk Set at 10 p.m.



The last film I saw that featured her was "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" (1967).  It was fun to see Isabel Sanford in the role of the racist, mean-spirited maid, it is so different from Louise "Ouisy" Jefferson, her character in "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" was more like a mean version of Florence played by Marla Gibbs, goodness, you never hear about Marla Gibbs anymore.  Is she still alive?
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 03, 2018, 02:38:16 PM
Last night wasn't the weekend, of course, but I finally got to see Guardians of the Galaxy, or most of it, anyway. As is typical for me on a weeknight, I had to multitask while I had the movie on TV. I hope some day I can sit down and watch all of it without interruption (something I usually can do only on weekends), because I really enjoyed what I did see. Chris Pratt is such a hunky hoot! (I read later that he had to lose 60 pounds in six months for the role.) I still think Bradley Cooper (or his voice, anyway) as a talking raccoon is one of the silliest and most inspired bits of casting ever.  ;D

I don't remember that I knew GOTG was another entry in the Marvel Universe.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 04, 2018, 09:30:18 AM

Groot!
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Post by: gattaca on August 04, 2018, 12:06:42 PM
Groot!

^^^^^ 
One of my favorite films of the past few years.  It is the better of the two films.  The film just flowed so easily.  We keep it on the DVR and will sometimes just put it on as background noise.   the 2nd film was OK, just had a high bar to live up to.
Yes on Pratt... his role, humor and well work outs certainly added to the allure. :)  V.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 04, 2018, 02:15:05 PM
Yes on Pratt... his role, humor and well work outs certainly added to the allure. :)  V.

Some months ago I was sitting in the barber shop waiting my turn, when I picked up a magazine (I forget which one, but it was probably one of those soft-core porn/workout mags) that had Chris Pratt on the cover and a feature story about him. There he was in a tight gray t-shirt, tight jeans, and muddy boots sitting astride a motorcycle. ...   :o  Thud!

A recent internet search for pics of him (  ::)  ) also brought up those other two hot Chrises: Hemsworth and Pine!  :D
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Post by: oilgun on August 04, 2018, 06:30:43 PM
^^^I loved Chris Pratt until he revealed himself to be an evangelical christian nutcase.
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Post by: gattaca on August 05, 2018, 08:05:13 AM
^^^^ Yeap.  The long ordeal after his son was born  surface some of this...  Though I might be wrong. There's a long VF article on Pratt.

As long as Pratt separates his faith from this on-screen work, it probably won't stop me from seeing his film (unless he goes completely all wingnut).  For instance, like Cruise. It takes all types to make the world go round...

It's a tough road he's on b/c having one spouse deeply religious and the other not so is a recipe for a major struggle especially when there are kids caught in the middle.  V.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/01/chris-pratt-cover-story?mbid=social_twitter

https://www.getreligion.org/getreligion/2017/8/14/chris-pratt-and-anna-faris-announce-separation-might-faith-play-a-role-in-this-story
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/chorusinthechaos/christians-criticizing-chris-pratt-need-look-mirror/
https://www.getreligion.org/getreligion/2018/6/20/chris-pratt-uses-mtv-as-pulpit-for-his-faith-were-his-nine-rules-for-living-news-or-not



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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 06, 2018, 07:38:53 AM
OK, I haven't followed the link, but ain't that the truth:

"Christians criticizing Chris Pratt Need to Look in the mirror."

As someone who is trying to live his life as one--Christian, that is (relax--high church Episcopalian)--I find it only too true that so often some of these people who call themselves Christians have apparently never read the Bible passage about casting the first stone (John 8:7).

(I knew the saying but I had to look up the book, chapter, and verse.  ::) )
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 06, 2018, 07:55:54 AM
Wouldn't have missed it for the world last night: Bringing Up Baby on TCM.

Ben Mankewicz's commentary was very interesting. Apparently the movie was a flop, RKO wanted to bury it, and the studio fired the director, Howard Hawks (!). The movie seems to have found its audience only when it began to be shown on TV, and now it's #14 on a list (Smithsonian? I didn't quite catch that) of greatest comedies ever made.

It's really a very good farce (everyone talking over everyone else). Of course there is the scene where Cary Grant, in a woman's bathrobe, jumps up and says something about having "gone GAY all of a sudden." (I used capitals because Grant says the word quite loudly. Interesting to me that clearly the audience--in 1938--was expected to know what he meant.)

The always very funny Walter Catlett plays the constable. Charlie Ruggles plays the big-game hunter Major Applegate, and Leona Roberts (Mrs. Meade in Gone With the Wind) plays the housekeeper. Barry Fitzgerald plays the caretaker.

If you watch very closely in the jail scene, you can just catch Ward Bond in a kind of a "pass-through" non-speaking part. I first noticed him about two viewings ago, and I went, "Oh, my God, that's Ward Bond!" It's unmistakably him.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 06, 2018, 10:04:33 AM

--Peeping Tom

When this film came out in 1960 it shocked audiences and ended the career of its director, Michael Powell.
It's about a repressed man who preys on women and films their fear when he brutally attacks them. You'd
think a director with subject matter like this would have filmed it in b&w, but this film is shot in highly lit
and saturated color, making the audience in a darkened theater feel like the scurrying bugs do when you
lift up a rock and they scatter away.

Audiences now have become so desensitized to so many things that this film probably won't shock you as
it first did, but it'll certainly make you squirm as you watch the main character battling his demons.
 
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Post by: oilgun on August 06, 2018, 05:45:07 PM
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w197/oilgun/leave-no-trace-03_zpsy43ehjkx.jpg)

LEAVE NO TRACE (Debra Granik - 2018) with the always great Ben Foster and newcomer Thomasin McKenzie who is definitely one to watch.

From RT:
Will (Ben Foster) and his teenage daughter, Tom (Thomasin Harcourt McKenzie), have lived off the grid for years in the forests of Portland, Oregon. When their idyllic life is shattered, both are put into social services. After clashing with their new surroundings, Will and Tom set off on a harrowing journey back to their wild homeland. The film is directed by Debra Granik from a script adapted by Granik and Anne Rosellini.

The director of Winter's Bone's second film is one of the best of the year. It's another quietly affecting story about people we don't often see in movies. In this a case, a vet suffering from PTSD and his wise beyond her years teenage daughter living on the margins of society. It's so authentic that it felt like I was watching real people and not actors.
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Post by: BlueAmber63 on August 11, 2018, 04:05:16 PM
For some inexplicable reason I put myself through "Midnight Express" again tonight.

Saw it years ago......it's still grim.!
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Post by: Flyboy on August 11, 2018, 08:03:42 PM
IMHO, Midnight Express is one of the classics........it will never grow old to me......
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Post by: gattaca on August 12, 2018, 06:53:12 AM
Finally got to see "Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri"   It was a tough film to watch b/c the cascading anger of Margaret's daughter's brutal murder is so compressed and infectious that the film feels like one long "controlled explosion" of human emotions and their consequences both intentional and unforeseen. 

The film has many twists and curves which will induce whiplash if you are really paying attention - a subtle glance, a snear, a stare.  Just watch Hayes eyes, her face, her composure in each scene and listen to the dialog carefully and listen when there not anything to say.   I understand now why she was awarded the Oscar for THIS performance - it is so deep, personal and angry.   With "MeToo" being in our mix, the film assumes an even darker facet I doubt even the director anticipated.

From WAPO -> "Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri" is as dark as they come, a pitch-black, often laceratingly funny look at human nature at its most nasty, brutish and dimwitted. But he anneals the cleansing fire with moments of startling tenderness, using compassion to shock viewers the way other directors wield the dark arts of sex and violence."

This feels so real that I could this story playing out in some part of America exactly as portrayed and for me that's the troubling reality of life. Recommended but the material is tough to watch, tough to hear and tough to think about. V. 

Ebert's site -> https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/three-billboards-outside-ebbing-missouri-2017

Rotten -> https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/three_billboards_outside_ebbing_missouri/

LA Times/Turan -> http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-three-billboards-review-20171109-story.html

WAPO -> https://www.washingtonpost.com/goingoutguide/movies/three-billboards-outside-ebbing-missouri-is-a-vigilante-comedy-for-our-age/2017/11/14/7f884082-c4be-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html?utm_term=.49818e544039
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 12, 2018, 10:49:31 AM

I agree and I feel that the humor that infests the film makes it all the more
powerful. In situations like this, sometimes brutal and demoralizing, the humor
can be, too, but it's real. In dramas where there's no instances of this I find them
less believable.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 12, 2018, 11:11:24 AM
For some inexplicable reason I put myself through "Midnight Express" again tonight.

IMHO, Midnight Express is one of the classics........it will never grow old to me......

Jonn, do you watch it on occasion? When it was released I saw it and found it to be an effective and
powerful film, but not one I'd ever had the desire to see again. Some really good movies are like that.
Once is enough.

Interestingly, a customer at one of the video stores I was the buyer for walked in out of the blue one day
and it turns out it was the actual Billy Hayes, who was the lead character played by Brad Davis in this film.
The moment was just one of those times you are in wonder because who'd ever expect to see that person
cross your path in real life.

Another person like that is probably lesser known now, because I doubt most aren't up on the Iran Contra
scandal. This story is no lie:  I was helping out as a clerk in one of the stores which I would do when necessary
and a young woman returned some video rentals. We did not print receipts for the returns unless the customer
asked, because most didn't want them and it consumed an enormous amount of paper. So, I looked down at
the name of the customer account I was waiting on and it was none other than Fawn Hall.

Wikipedia describes her thusly: Fawn Hall is a former secretary to Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North and a notable
figure in the Iran-Contra affair by helping him shred confidential documents.

So, Fawn Hall asks for a receipt and as it prints it gets caught in the printer. I dug it out and handed it to her
in the condition it was saying, "I'm sorry, your receipt got a little shredded."  She gave me such a look.   :)

Okay, one more:  A couple weeks after the first season of Survivor was over on TV--it was a phenomenal thing in the zeitgeist
that first summer and the winner was Richard Hatch; he was all the buzz...well he came in one afternoon and purchased a video
which I sold to him. When I was finished totaling it up I handed the receipt to him and said, "That'll be a million dollars, please."
He just rolled his eyes, heh!
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Post by: BlueAmber63 on August 12, 2018, 03:48:33 PM
Finally got to see "Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri"   It was a tough film to watch b/c the cascading anger of Margaret's daughter's brutal murder is so compressed and infectious that the film feels like one long "controlled explosion" of human emotions and their consequences both intentional and unforeseen. 

The film has many twists and curves which will induce whiplash if you are really paying attention - a subtle glance, a snear, a stare.  Just watch Hayes eyes, her face, her composure in each scene and listen to the dialog carefully and listen when there not anything to say.   I understand now why she was awarded the Oscar for THIS performance - it is so deep, personal and angry.   With "MeToo" being in our mix, the film assumes an even darker facet I doubt even the director anticipated.

From WAPO -> "Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri" is as dark as they come, a pitch-black, often laceratingly funny look at human nature at its most nasty, brutish and dimwitted. But he anneals the cleansing fire with moments of startling tenderness, using compassion to shock viewers the way other directors wield the dark arts of sex and violence."

This feels so real that I could this story playing out in some part of America exactly as portrayed and for me that's the troubling reality of life. Recommended but the material is tough to watch, tough to hear and tough to think about. V. 

Ebert's site -> https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/three-billboards-outside-ebbing-missouri-2017

Rotten -> https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/three_billboards_outside_ebbing_missouri/

LA Times/Turan -> http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-three-billboards-review-20171109-story.html

WAPO -> https://www.washingtonpost.com/goingoutguide/movies/three-billboards-outside-ebbing-missouri-is-a-vigilante-comedy-for-our-age/2017/11/14/7f884082-c4be-11e7-afe9-4f60b5a6c4a0_story.html?utm_term=.49818e544039

Loved this movie so much(Billboards) ..... bought the DVD just the other day....plus...."Churchill...Darkest Hour".
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 13, 2018, 08:33:48 AM
I saw the 2017 Murder on the Orient Express last night. I had seen the 1974 version years ago, so I knew how it was going to end. Last night I watched more out of curiosity than interest. I much prefer the 1974 version.

The 2017 version does have Kenneth Branagh (as Poirot), Judi Dench, and Derek Jacobi, but the 1974 cast? Holy Agatha Christie!

The cast included Albert Finney (as Poirot), Lauren Bacall, Ingrid Bergman, Jacqueline Bisset, Sean Connery, John Gielgud, Wendy Hiller, Anthony Perkins, Vanessa Redgrave, Rachel Roberts, Michael York, Richard Widmark, and Martin Balsam. Talk about your A-list cast!

According to IMDb, the 1974 version was the only film adaptation made during Agatha Christie's lifetime that really satisfied her. She felt that Finney came closest to her idea of Poirot.

Ingrid Bergman played a Swedish missionary on her way home from Africa. To this day, in my head, I can still hear her voice saying something about "little brown babies."

OK, there was one clever little bit from 2017 that I don't remember from 1974 (It may have been there, and I just don't remember it.): When Poirot gets off the train, he is told that he must go to Egypt immediately (that is, for Death on the Nile). (I wonder if Branagh was contemplating a remake of that move, too?)
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Post by: oilgun on August 19, 2018, 12:39:30 AM
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w197/oilgun/blackkklansman-02_zps6a3ld44o.jpg)

BlacKkKlansman - Spike Lee's best film in years. Very affecting and powerful but also quite funny. Topher Grace is perfectly cast as David Duke.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on August 19, 2018, 09:38:25 AM
I finally saw Darkest Hour (on HBO) last night. Gary Oldman's performance was, indeed, amazing.

How very stupid of me to have watched the evening news instead of Dunkirk, which, appropriately, was shown right before Darkest Hour. I caught the very end of Dunkirk. I really want to see the entire film.

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Post by: gattaca on August 19, 2018, 07:02:49 PM
^^^^^ Dunkirk is just an awesome film!  V.
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Post by: Cannata on August 22, 2018, 06:19:40 AM
I rewatched V for Vendetta last weekend. Haven't seen it in years and I was almost craving it. Love that movie.
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Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 22, 2018, 05:15:40 PM
Hello Cannata!

Welcome to the forum!
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Post by: Gazapete on August 23, 2018, 09:14:31 AM
I watched "12 Years A Slave", it really impressed me and made me realise that I don't know much about the history of slavery. It's so terrible what the human being is capable of doing to other human beings, will humanity ever learn.  :(
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 23, 2018, 12:30:19 PM
^^^

That film irks me for a lot of reasons. It's like torture porn. Sort of like what you said: Look at how bad people can be
and we'll show you just that. I feel that film should be criticized every bit as much as those who criticize Song of the
South for being "happy." It also has that feel of a film you are just NOT supposed to criticize. But I do.



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Post by: Gazapete on August 23, 2018, 01:07:30 PM
Oh, I agree, I don't think I will see it again,  but even so, it doesn't stop being true, I mean the facts they are portraying happened, that's what impressed me. That brought me to sit and search and I read some very hard but interesting articles about slavery and segregation and I was kind of absorbed by this a couple of days. So I have to thank this film for some learning. I haven't seen Song of the South, or wait, was it that disney movie?
About criticism, it's not a good sign when we stop criticising things for being afraid of being called whatever. I must recognise that I don't know how it is in the US, but I think they are conducting this issue the wrong way. Take as example "To Kill a Mockingbird", I can't believe they want to forbid it because of the use of one word instead of using the chance to explain why it was used, which was its context, what does it represents. Censuring is never a good thing, even if you have to read atrocities. I read parts of Mein Kampf and it was very illustrating and useful to understand how could the things than then happened happen.
Oops, sorry for such a long and rambling answer...
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 23, 2018, 01:16:13 PM

A couple films I saw recently:

--The Long, Hot Summer

I thought I'd seen this film, but if I have, I didn't recall a single thing about it. I also thought it was in b&w, but it isn't.
It's a late 1950's film based on a William Faulkner book and I found it quite tedious, no redemptive characters or situations.
I just didn't care for much of anything about it. Even the widescreen color photography seemed drab and uninspiring. Orson
Welles was a mess. You'd think Paul Newman would have been at least worthwhile in some respect, but I didn't find him so.
And JoAnne Woodward was just a bore. Whoever designed her hair style should never have been allowed to work again, either.
I am guessing you get the impression I didn't like it!  I don't think any film based on a Faulkner novel is any good.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 23, 2018, 01:20:14 PM

--A Little Boy

I saw a little synopsis of this 2015 film about a young child growing up during WWII, where his father is his best friend, but the father
has to go off to war and the child has to cope with his absence. The synopsis indicated that Emily Watson and Tom Wilkinson were the
stars. I like period dramas of this sort so I decided to give it a chance.

On my limited knowledge of the film I thought it was going to be a British film taking place on the coast of England or something. So I
was immediately surprised when the film opens and indicates it's taking place in a small town on the coast of California. Then I see
that there are several Americans in the film like Michael Rappaport, Kevin James and Ali Landry.  Ben Chaplin also has a role. To further
confuse me I see that the film was written and directed by those from Mexico and that it was filmed and made in Mexico.

The film itself was well worth seeing. It presents itself as a kind of charming feel good film and deals with issues of faith, prejudice
(concerning the internment of Japanese and also the young boys possible dwarfism) and the realities of war. But it also turns somewhat
too dark near the end trying to have the film both ways so it veers in tone and because of that it's disturbing in some ways. It's almost
like it has two endings and because of that it feels a bit unrealistic. But it also is quite involving because of that in a strange way. So I can't
say I thought the film was completely satisfying, but it was worth my time in a whole lot of ways.

The actor, Jakob Salvati, who plays the young boy was particularly effective, as was the actor, David Henrie, who played his much older brother
who was kept out of the war. Unless I missed something, the film seemed to indicate that becasue the older son was kept out of the war (for
having flat feet) his father was obligated to go, which wouldn't have been true, but perhaps I missed something.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 23, 2018, 01:21:46 PM

--The Place Beyond the Pines

This is an interesting film from six years ago that stars Ryan Gosling and Bradley Cooper, with supporting performances by
Ray Liotta, Eva Mendes and Mahershala Ali--five years before his Oscar win for Moonnlight. It's basically a three act film where
Gosling stars in the first act, Cooper in the second and mostly their sons in the third act. Because of some robberies, Gosling
crosses paths with a cop played by Cooper and the results influence the people in their lives. I was somewhat let down in the
third act, because I wasn't sure of the motivation of Gosling's son's character in the third act. I was confused as to most of his
motivations and reasons for his actions. So I was let down somewhat, but it's a really fascinating film. It was filmed in upstate
New York, near Schenectady, which is where the film mostly takes place.

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Post by: CellarDweller115 on August 27, 2018, 04:36:24 AM
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 27, 2018, 03:27:55 PM

Jeff, Michael Pare was brought up earlier this summer and you mentioned getting some of his films to watch
and The Philadelphia Experiment got mentioned.  That's when I discovered there was another film of that
name that was made in 2012.  Online it's pretty much talked about as a remake of the original, but I rented
it from NetFlix this week and it's more a sequel or I guess you could call it a reimagining if one wanted to.

--The Philadelphia Experiment (2012)

The movie was made in Canada. THe star is Nicholas Lea who fans of The X-Files would know as a recurring character.
It also has Malcolm McDowall in it (?) and even MIchale Pare has a role. Now, you'd think Pare's character would have
something to do with his original character, but, no, it doesn't. He's just a government heavy out to do his boss's bidding
and really hasn't much of a character at all.

This particular movie starts with the premise of the story that the WWII ship was transferred in time to the future because
the secret mission being developed in 1943 was re-opened in the present and draws the ship to the present. The plot is basically
that the scientists who are working on the plan know how to fix it, but the dumb government people, of course, just want to
handle it their own way and won't listen. Cliche; the Government people never want to listen to the scientists who keep warning
them.

For me it was nice 90 minute fast paced bare bones story and I enjoyed watching it because of my own special interest in the
original film and time travel related stories etc. Other than that, anyone else who might want to see it, you're on your own!
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on August 27, 2018, 03:40:20 PM

--Mistress America

This is a 2015 Noah Baumbauch directed film that stars Greta Gerwig and was co-written by them both.
It's about a lonely college student--from Rotten Tomatoes synopsis: having neither the exciting university
experience nor the glamorous metropolitan lifestyle she envisioned. But when she is taken in by her
soon-to-be stepsister, Brooke - a resident of Times Square and adventurous gal about town - she is
rescued from her disappointment and seduced by Brooke's alluringly mad schemes.


These kinds of films are always problematic to me.  Quirky is an attribute that can get really annoying
or just tiresome which means it's unbelievable. This film veered close to that for me, but it was decent
enough. In these kinds of films, too, the characters all just talk way too much. You want some scenes
where they do not.



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Post by: killersmom on September 06, 2018, 01:03:02 PM
Burt Reynolds just passed away. He was 82 and died of cardiac arrest.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 07, 2018, 07:58:59 AM
Last night TCM showed A Raisin in the Sun. I must admit I've seen it several times, and I've never been able to catch the significance of the title, but that doesn't stop me from considering it a really great movie. And, my God, Sidney Poitier: What a performance!

And they followed it up with To Kill a Mockingbird. I wish I could have stayed up to watch it, as I never get tired of that film, but unfortunately my job gets in the way of my movie viewing. I guess I'm a movie viewer with a job problem. ...

An anecdote: When I was in elementary school, some of us--I don't remember how many classes--were taken into the school auditorium to watch A Raisin in the Sun on a TV set. We had to get written permission from our parents to watch it! I grew up in a lily-white community, so I always assumed it was the racial content that made it controversial. Last night it struck me that perhaps it had more to do with Ruth (Ruby Dee) planning to abort her baby.
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Post by: BlueAmber63 on September 07, 2018, 05:21:09 PM
Just read...they have decided to drop...the new Oscar...for" Outstanding Achievement
in Popular Film" ….after wide spread backlash.


Lyle....do you know anything more about this ??

Where they worried that Jake Gyllenhaal might have *actually* won one of these ? !!!
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Post by: gattaca on September 07, 2018, 05:45:16 PM
I read it was some revolt in Hollywood.. probably not unlike our 2005 FUBAR..  :)  V.
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Post by: killersmom on September 07, 2018, 09:42:42 PM
What kind of revolt? Of the old guard being against it or what?
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Post by: Uli on September 08, 2018, 12:30:43 AM
Just read...they have decided to drop...the new Oscar...for" Outstanding Achievement
in Popular Film" ….after wide spread backlash.


Lyle....do you know anything more about this ??

Where they worried that Jake Gyllenhaal might have *actually* won one of these ? !!!

Hm... Well, that can‘t be the reason...

No offense, but if there is one thing Jake hasn‘t been doing these past years...it‘s making „popular films“...  :"> :laugh:

So, we would still have to hope for the regular Oscar for him...
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Post by: gattaca on September 08, 2018, 06:39:29 AM
What kind of revolt? Of the old guard being against it or what?
"considerable backlash among Academy members...who said it devalued the awards and implied that a movie cannot be simultaneously well-liked by critics and by the general public."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/academy-scraps-plan-for-controversial-popular-film-award-1536260807

What these arrogant asswipes are ignoring is if they do not begin changing their approach to reach out and engage more of the Gen X, Y, Millennials, they are in a lose-lose game.  The leading edge of the boomers is starting to "fall off the cliff" and in 25 years, they(we) will be mostly dust in the wind.  Change or become obsolete.   Also, we used to joke the 3+ hours was insane and I understand everyone wants their 2 mins in the sun but with so many awards, they need to pair some of those down and award them in smaller venues like they do already for some of the smaller but no-less important achievements in film.  V.
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Post by: killersmom on September 08, 2018, 09:45:56 AM
Well with an attitude like this (as it has always been) as you said, the Oscars are and will be obsolete on just a few years. How long will it be before the old guard dies off and the younger actors grow some balls and institute some change?
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Post by: Flyboy on September 08, 2018, 10:06:22 AM
There are just too many awards, and shows, IMHO. People get award fatigue I believe, so by the time the Oscar presentations roll around, no one really cares! I can't even TELL you how many awards, and shows there are for the entertainment industry as a whole!! Far too many, that's for sure........I can still remember when it was bascially the Tony's, the Emmy's, the Grammy's and the Oscars, the ones that were televised anyway...but I also remember when the People Choice awards showed up! I thought, what? After that it just became a streamroller of new Awards and shows...... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 08, 2018, 02:06:35 PM

By all accounts, the reason this whole new award thing started in the first place is because ABC had signed a new multi-year contract (12 years) to show the awards which started in 2016 and this past year's awards show was down in the ratings to 26.5 from 33.4 in 2017 and 34.00 in 2016. (One must note that ratings are down across the board in almost every network measurement the last few years. Even the Superbowl.)

But ABC executives went to AMPAS in a tizzy and said they had to do something. Shorten the show. Get films people like nominated somehow. They brought up the idea of the new picture category. Up the ratings by not televising some categories etc. Do something! Whatever. AMPAS was spooked.

Somehow they got AMPAS to agree to stop televising some of the awards and just showing a clip of them winning. They got them to announce a new award category for popular films without researching the members or even deciding how that would work.

By the way, if that was supposed to appeal to new audiences, why would it? Because it, in fact, just sounds like pandering. You won't nominate movies for Best Picture in the genres we like (specifically well-reviewed superhero films like The Dark Knight, or last year's Wonder Woman or this year's Black Panther) so we'll pander to you by giving you a special trophy.

If you recall the fact that The Dark Knight, and also WALL-E which received several critics Best Film of the Year prizes...the fact they were overlooked in the Best Film category in 2008 was why AMPAS suddenly instituted the "up to ten Best Film nominees" rules which was thought would then include more sci-fi, animated, acclaimed superhero films etc. into the mix. 
Guess what? It did not.

As far as instituting a "Popular Film Achievement Award...remember when they gave awards to films that both critics and audiences actually liked? They used to give Best Picture winners to "popular" films.  You know, like The Sound of Music, West Side Story, The Godfather, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, The Sting, The French Connection, Terms of Endearment, etc.

So in 2017 they gave the Best Picture Oscar to Moonlight over La La Land. Regardless of your feelings about either film, La La Land was popular and audiences saw it more than any other nominee. (Hidden Figures may have overtaken it after the awards.) Concerning movie audiences...Moonlight was not a popular film. Sure, it got good critical acclaim, but it's one in a long line of recent Best Picture winners that are among the bottom of the Best Picture lists for drawing audiences and box office. The highest rated Oscars of all time was when Titanic, a very popular and critically acclaimed film, was nominated and won. SO, can you blame audiences who tuned in to see La La Land win get turned off when it didn't?

In any event, I don't think the Oscars should try pandering to audiences to get viewership. The Oscars are different now for many reasons. THey were actually conceived to get the populace interested in Hollywood's products by showcasing their ideas of the best films of the year.  The fact is, when I was growing up and watching them on TV, most everyone I knew hadn't seen these films. Maybe 2-3 if any. Watching the show was great to not only see movie stars that never or rarwely appeared on telelvision. You could also see clips of the films. Watching celebrities ands seeing film clips of the nominees is the least interesting thing about the Oscars nowadays. With a click of your computer you can see almost anything you want to in that regard. It's not really special.

And some of you noted the proliferation of awards shows. Even if it is the Oscars, when there are well over 100 groups giving out awards before that it gets really tiresome. And that doesn't include the myriad of film festivals giving out awards. It just dilutes the impact.

Also, these shows are spread out over three months which gives everyone time to analyze the importance of each one into numbness. This contributes to a sameness of winners which seems absurd when critics are always saying "art is subjective." Shouldn't that mean that every award, say, shouldn't go to Gary Oldman, for example?

So how AMPAS can ever evolve into something more exciting and worthy with it's awards is something people write about every single year.

THe only idea I ever heard of is something that would never happen because it would involve too many groups agreeing on a single thing and each group wants their own spot in the limelioght, eas evidence by critics giving out their best film nominations and or awards around Thanksgiving now, before many films even are screened or opened.

But that idea was to have "Awards Season" scheduled like the Olympics. A two-week period where every day there are film awards, perhaps starting with the critics, moving on to guilds etc. and the last night would be the Oscars. For one, each group could not be influenced by anyone else's award voting. There would be time to celebrate the achievements instead of the weeks of people trying to tear them down like the internet is wont to do and since the voting wouldn't be contingent on knowing what anyone else voted for weeks in advance...there would theoretically be differences.
 
An Atlantic article about this from when it was first announced:
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/08/the-oscars-new-rule-changes-are-terrible/567107/
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 11, 2018, 11:10:09 AM

--Elvis & Nixon

This is a film from a couple years ago. It's about the circumstances around the meeting that Elvis Presley had with Richard Nixon in the White House in December of 1970. The photo of the two of them together taken at the time is the most requested photo ever from the National Archives.

It's a slight film, but highly entertaining. Michael Shannon plays Elvis and Kevin Spacey plays Richard Nixon. Also in the cast are Alex Pettyfer (meow!), Colin Hanks and Johnny Knoxville. The plot concerns Elvis feeling America's youth needs help and he wants to be an Undercover Federal Agent for the U.S. and help fight drug infiltration. Apparently by this time Elvis' celebrity had gone to his head in a lot of ways. He comes off very Trump-like to me. (You know, those people who are never told "no" and act like it. Elvis...Michael Jackson...Trump.)

From a reviewer: As a surreal slice of history served up nearly half a century later, it feels oddly satisfying: A reminder not just of perceived simpler times, but of all the other wild untold stories we may never know, just because no camera was there to capture them."

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Post by: BlueAmber63 on September 11, 2018, 04:52:14 PM
I'm late posting this as I saw both movies on Sunday!

1) " All About Eve".....starring Bette Davis,Anne Baxter,Celeste Holme, George Sanders and others !
You may well think from the title of the movie that "Eve"  is Bette Davis.....
wrong....Eve is Anne Baxter. Bette is Margo...an ageing actress.

Eve is the young "wanna" be actress who ingratiates hers self on Margo......
and gradually gets the parts Margo once did/wants.

Anything Bette Davis did...never disappoints.

                                             *************

2) Spotlight.(2015).....starring...Marc Ruffolo,Michael Keaton,Rachel McAdams,
and the fabulous Stanley Tucci who so under played his character.

The newspaper "The Boston Globe"....after hearing the story of widespread child
abuse in Boston by Catholic Priests..who never got bought to justice but just
got moved to another parish....began investigating the whole story...which after
an indepth investigation they realized it was going on all over the world ..right
up to the Vatican.

Brilliant movie...though disturbing.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 12, 2018, 11:35:17 AM
I'm late posting this as I saw both movies on Sunday!

1) " All About Eve".....starring Bette Davis,Anne Baxter,Celeste Holme, George Sanders and others !
You may well think from the title of the movie that "Eve"  is Bette Davis.....
wrong....Eve is Anne Baxter. Bette is Margo...an ageing actress.

Eve is the young "wanna" be actress who ingratiates hers self on Margo......
and gradually gets the parts Margo once did/wants.

Anything Bette Davis did...never disappoints.

"Fasten your seat belts. It's going to be a bumpy night."

I don't want to misunderstand: This isn't the first time you've seen All About Eve, is it?

The greatest movie about the theater ever.

Everyone is great, even Marilyn Monroe in her bit part. I love George Sanders as the theater critic Addison DeWitt!

One of my all-time favorites, a movie I never tire of watching.
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Post by: BlueAmber63 on September 12, 2018, 05:04:38 PM
"Fasten your seat belts. It's going to be a bumpy night."

I don't want to misunderstand: This isn't the first time you've seen All About Eve, is it?

The greatest movie about the theater ever.

Everyone is great, even Marilyn Monroe in her bit part. I love George Sanders as the theater critic Addison DeWitt!

One of my all-time favorites, a movie I never tire of watching.


(*hangs head with shame*)  :">   Yes....this was my first time!

I'm leaving now (*walks away ..eyes down*)
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 12, 2018, 07:21:35 PM

(*hangs head with shame*)  :">   Yes....this was my first time!

I'm leaving now (*walks away ..eyes down*)

Don't do that! Welcome to the party!  :D

And I agree. Nothing Bette Davis did disappoints.

(I figure the play Margo is in, where she's playing some sort of Southern Belle, is an inside joke about Davis' movie Jezebel, another movie I recommend, where she played a Southern Belle.)
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Post by: BlueAmber63 on September 12, 2018, 07:31:54 PM
                                                     ^^^^^

I loved "Jezebel"..Saw it years ago. Is it the movie where she arrives at a dance
wearing a scarlet dress...which is looked down upon because all unmarried
girls were expected to wear white to show virginal status ?

They haven't shown it on TV for ages.Not on Netflix either.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 13, 2018, 07:13:13 AM
                                                   ^^^^^

I loved "Jezebel"..Saw it years ago. Is it the movie where she arrives at a dance
wearing a scarlet dress.
..which is looked down upon because all unmarried
girls were expected to wear white to show virginal status ?

They haven't shown it on TV for ages.Not on Netflix either.

That's the one! I love that one, too!  :)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 13, 2018, 12:12:36 PM
I remember reading once that they filmed All About Eve very quickly...like in 4 weeks or something.
And it held the record for the most Oscar nominations by itself, from 1950 - 1998 when Titanic achieved 14 nominations, and recently, when La La Land achieved 14 nominations.

And 1950 -- what a year for the Best Actress competition:

Anne Baxter -- All about Eve {"Eve Harrington"}
Bette Davis -- All about Eve {"Margo Channing"}
Judy Holliday -- Born Yesterday {"Billie Dawn"}
Eleanor Parker -- Caged {"Marie Allen"}
Gloria Swanson -- Sunset Blvd. {"Norma Desmond"}

This is Exhibit A in why you really shouldn't have film award competitions.
Any single one of these performances could have won and should have won.
My personal choice would probably have been Gloria Swanson, but as I said...
Eleanor Parker is probably the least known of this group but I saw Caged on
the big screen around a decade ago and Eleanor pulls out all the stops in her
tour-de-force performance, including having her long locks shaved off as part
of her prison induction. Anyone else seen Caged?

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 13, 2018, 12:13:24 PM
"I'll admit I may have seen better days…

(https://crystalkalyana.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/dew.gif?w=736)

…but I'm still not to be had for the price of a cocktail."
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on September 13, 2018, 01:31:34 PM
"I'll admit I may have seen better days…

(https://crystalkalyana.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/dew.gif?w=736)

…but I'm still not to be had for the price of a cocktail."

A martini. Very dry.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 17, 2018, 09:47:14 AM

--Day for Night

Had never seen this well-known film before I watched it with a couple friends last night. It's quite captivating and
deserves its reputation!
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Post by: BlueAmber63 on September 18, 2018, 05:31:54 PM
Over the w/e i watched the disturbing movie "Mississippi Burning".
Starring: Gene Hackman...William Dafoe... and the fabulous Francis McDormand and
so many other great actors.

The story is based on real events that happened in Mississippi. It concerns the murder of 3 young men working for civil rights. They had been to a civil rights
meeting and were driving back through Mississippi...when they were spotted by
some members of the KKK....noticing that one of the young men was coloured.

Great movie...but as I said very disturbing.
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Post by: Gazapete on September 19, 2018, 12:12:58 AM
I watched it really long ago, but it's still in my mind, it really impressed me.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on September 19, 2018, 10:23:04 AM

--Being Julia

I only saw this film when it first came out, way back in 2004 if you can believe it. I decided I'd like
to revisit it and am glad I did. Annette Bening is superb with delightful supporting players like Jeremy
Irons, Juliet Stevenson and Miriam Margolies. I wish she'd won the Oscar for this role.

What I didn't realize before, and noticed in the credits, is that this film is based on a short story by
Somerset Maugham titled "Theatre."

The DVD I rented had some special features including 5 minutes of deleted scenes which was a nice
treat for some added enjoyment.
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Post by: oilgun on September 30, 2018, 05:22:36 PM
Fahrenheit 11/9 - Michael Moore.
I was happy to see that there was a (relatively) good crowd at today's first screening. Usually i'm one of a handful of people in the room but today there were at least thirty people. The film really puts both the Republican and the Democratic parties through the wringer. It was infuriating to watch but it's definitely a must see.
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Post by: BlueAmber63 on October 01, 2018, 04:25:06 PM
Last night I watched "A Few Good Men"1992....starring Tom Cruise...Jack Nicholson...Demi Moore.....Kevin Bacon.

It's a court room drama. A fellow Marine gets murdered at the Guantanamo
Naval Base.

Jack Nicholson was only on screen for a maximum of 20-25 minutes ....and YES...
he stole the movie !!

Tom Cruise played a decent part...but he looked about 12 years old !!!!!!

For all that it was a decent movie. :D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 06, 2018, 11:16:18 AM

--A Star is Born (2018)

I don't want to place a damper on anyone who might enjoy this film, but ever since I'd
seen the preview for it in August I was not expecting it to like it very much, because it
resembles the 1976 film a great deal.  And that one, for whatever reason, I had never
seen until two years ago. I really disliked that one.

This version is a whole lot better than that one, however. Bradley Cooper is quite affecting, but
he chose to lower his voice and sound so much like Kris Kristofferson that I couldn't shake that
notion. It also has touches of the film where Jeff Bridges played a country singer and won an Oscar
for it. Lady Gaga has a voice and can belt tunes, but as an actress I really didn't find her all that
engaging.

Of course, a lot of the problem for me is that I've seen all the other versions and the precursor film, so
there was no real surprise in the arc of the story telling. I kept waiting for the main plot elements to
be checked off.  I always say that there has to be at least one good reason to remake a film and I was
hoping there was something a little more here than two huge stars wanting to create their own versions
of the roles, like many do with Hamlet or The Glass Menagerie.

In my opinion I'd like to see the roles reversed.  I'd like to see a famous woman on her way down while the
up and comer is male, especially in the time of "MeToo,"and how that would play out. Or maybe a same sex
pairing? And why not change it up and perhaps set the story in the world of politics or something.

There's several decent new songs in the movie, but I can't say, at least this morning, they're going to be as
famous as "The Man That Got Away" or "Evergreen" from previous film incarnations. I was especially disappointed
in one song, which I was going to elaborate on, but won't as it might be a spoiler in some ways.
___

Before I hit "post" I checked out the Rotten Tomatoes site and find that a whole lot of critics are liking this film
and ones that I would never have expected to. Maybe it's a film that is really right for the times...a diversion for
all the angst we're feeling lately. I don't know.  But I'll have to say that I guess if anyone has a desire to see it
then they'll probably like it.  Can't wait to hear what others here think of it.
 
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 07, 2018, 11:35:36 AM

--First Man

How many of you could recognize a picture of the first man on the moon, Neil Armstrong?  I could not.
There's a reason NASA chose this man to be saddled with the monumental task of being the "First Man,"
but who really knows anything about him and what he was like. I'm afraid this movie doesn't help with
that. I have not read books about the people who spent a decade edging ever closer to the moon, so my
knowledge of their personal stories is limited, but since this film is based on a book about him, I thought
we'd get a picture of who this guy was.

What we get is his life shown through the experiences he went through, concentrating on the years he
was involved with NASA, but considering some of the personalities we do know about from the 1960's
astronaut program, like the appealing John Glenn or the energetic and talkative Buzz Aldrin, Armstrong
is pretty much the strong silent type.  So watching the film it feels like we're being kept at a distance
from who and what his personality is.

I might compare this, oddly, to the Andrews Sisters. I had always wondered why there hadn't been any film
(or documentary) about these hugely popular and influential singers who were the sensation of the Big Band
years. Then I read a book about them and realized why. There was not a lot of drama to be told about their lives.
They really were nice people and their relationship with one another was at the worst, cordial, and so if a film needs
some kind of conflict, there isn't really anything to base a movie on. They had talent, they honed it, the believed in
and enjoyed what they were doing, had a great work ethic and they sang and people loved it. It's kind of the same
with Armstrong. Their problems at the worst were not the stuff of a movie story.

SIDEBAR: For a current observation, imagine if Bradley Cooper's character in A Star is Born was like that. What would that
film be like?

It's much the same with Armstrong. A lot of sadness seems to have pervaded his life with coming from WWII, mentioned
but not shown, and then family loss, followed by the dangers of his profession. In the film, it's all introspective as to how
he reacts to it, so I felt the film was way more somber than I expected it to be. The story of these people who braved the
obstacles is still a good story, but the person at the center of it is more like the eye of a hurricane. That's precisely why he
was NASA's choice to be at the center of the Apollo program.

I admit I was caught off guard with the solemnity of much of the film. I expected it to be, at least in the final stages, a bit
more uplifting and/or, well let's say entertaining. I expect the feeling I got was because I was thinking of movies about this
subject matter like The Right Stuff, Apollo 13 and Hidden Figures that had so many appealing figures in it that you could
relate to or empathize with. Neil Armstrong may have been the perfect choice for this job, but may not have been the perfect
choice to revolve a movie around.

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Post by: gattaca on October 07, 2018, 12:27:55 PM
^^^^  Thanks for the candid review.  This film is on my must see list.  It's good to know going in that it will be more a reflection than a drama/conflict approach!  For me, it's just a different way of telling the story of a man's life who made human  history.  Sometimes, I wonder if he had the better of the choices between full of crazy drama or a steady, reliable, quiet, existence which may be boring by some points-of-view... but who's to judge.   V.
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Post by: Gazapete on October 08, 2018, 01:40:47 AM
Yesterday I watched "Hell or High Water". I really liked it, a modern western with social message. Jeff Bridges is incredible in it. I am not much of a critic writer, as you can see, but I really appreciated the effort of the movie in exposing the consequences of the crisis on poor people and the hypocrisy of the bank system, which deceived them into mortal traps with their mortgage system. 

PS: Every time they mentioned Childress a shudder went down my back, that's how obsessed I am  ???
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on October 08, 2018, 01:44:32 AM

Thanks, Lyle, for the ASIB review. Insightful and informative.

I didn't intend to watch that movie, and now even less so.
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Post by: gattaca on October 08, 2018, 02:13:38 AM
Yesterday I watched "Hell or High Water". I really liked it, a modern western with social message. Jeff Bridges is incredible in it. I am not much of a critic writer, as you can see, but I really appreciated the effort of the movie in exposing the consequences of the crisis on poor people and the hypocrisy of the bank system, which deceived them into mortal traps with their mortgage system. 

PS: Every time they mentioned Childress a shudder went down my back, that's how obsessed I am  ???

I think I wrote a review of "Hell or High Water" a while back too.  YES!  This is one of the best films Bridges has done in years.  He had a perfect "almost dude" role which felt like it was written just for him!  There's plenty of drama with the two brothers and the story is about the pure greed. Also, Chris Pine, who's one of the brothers, is always on my top 10 list. It's a rarity that I do not see most of his work unless the critical reviews are just awful.   8)  V.
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Post by: Gazapete on October 08, 2018, 02:54:54 AM
I would like to read your review, I am going to try to find it *flexing fingers over keyboard*
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Post by: gattaca on October 08, 2018, 03:47:44 AM
Actually, I must be losing it.  My bad. I never wrote one of my short reviews - just that I liked the film and recommended "Wind River" highly if you liked HoHW.

http://ultimatebrokebackforum.com/index.php?topic=40633.msg2688235#msg2688235

Ok, so here's my take and the main links below.

BLUF: It's a nice way to spend a couple of hours watching a great (sleeper) film with no regrets.  V.

Spoilers ON!

LOVED the ironic twists. Everything from the dueling brothers who give us a careful dance of the crazy and stoic older brother taking care of his younger brother - including a finale of self sacrifice.  The brothers motive of trying to save the family farm from the evil greedy Texas banks who are adept at stealing valuable property for nothing, is refreshing.  Yeah it's one thing to borrow and not pay, it's another to outright steal the other way too. 

Our brother's are re-linked and motivated by their dying parent who assumed the unpayable debt maybe due to his illness. .  The younger brother Toby (Pine) also has a wife, and family (young sons) who's he's trying to do the right thing by after many years of failing them and ending in a divorce.   So it's a redemption story from that angle as it seems like he's not been around too much and may have had a "it's time to grow up responsibility" challenge with much of his life spent in his older brother's shadow.  His irresponsibility  seems driven not  having a "real job" or real opportunity.  The greedy Texas Midland bank helping him lawyer up is all that more ironic too - just loved that twist.

I found the interactions between the brothers as well as the The Ranger (Bridges) or his partner (Birmingham) well played. There was earned respect for what each pair was trying to do.  I've said the film is full of twists and turns and gotchas. 

The finale surprised me. I did not expect Alberto, (Bridges partner) to get shot right outta the gate in the final sequence but I did see the brother's death (Tanner) coming by miles.   There are a couple of lines between Markus (Bridges) and Alberto (Birmingham) which gave me pause but in context, it was all friendly banter which in the end proved that both of these guys really cared about each other too way beyond the daily job grind.

The finale wraps up with both men Toby (Pine) and Markus (Bridges)  "dancing around what they know but cannot prove in full Texas style"  That concludes the story but part of me feels it could have omitted.  Things could have stopped at that final gun shot,  and Tanner slumping over and then Bridges saying something like "I got that SOB" and we would have been left  to our own imagination for what happens to Toby and his family. 

I've seen HoHW probably 5-6 times now and it's one of the rare films where if I see it on, I might just land there and stay - sort of like I do with  "Hidden Figures" or "The Martian" which I recorded on the DVR and I'll just queue up as background ambiance when working around the house.

For me, it's some of Bridges best work in years and I've said several times prior how I feel about Pine - especially as James T. Kirk in his Star Trek role  :o  ;D  8)
Spoilers OFF!

1) Ebert's site -> https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/hell-or-high-water-2016
"The most surprisingly satisfying of the bunch comes from Chris Pine, who turns in his best work to date in a part that finds him dialing down the smirky charm of his nouveau Captain Kirk in order to play a far more serious-minded character. "
2) Rotten -> https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hell_or_high_water/reviews/
3) Rolling Stone -> https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/hell_or_high_water/reviews/
4) LA Times -> http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/la-en-mn-1122-hell-high-water-20161110-story.html 
5) https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/feb/22/hell-or-high-water-best-picture-oscar
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Post by: Gazapete on October 08, 2018, 04:01:25 AM
Thank you!  :-*


The brothers motive of trying to save the family farm from the evil greedy Texas banks who are adept at stealing valuable property for nothing, is refreshing.  Yeah it's one thing to borrow and not pay, it's another to outright steal the other way too. 


This made my day, robbing the bank that has been robbing their mother for so many years, wrong but oh so right!
I also liked the commentary Pine's character makes about poverty being hereditary and all of this being a desperate attemp to break that vicious circle and give his kids a better chance.
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Post by: oilgun on October 08, 2018, 06:36:46 PM
Colette with Keira Knightley. It's very conventional but quite enjoyable. One of Keira's best performances.
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Post by: Sara B on October 09, 2018, 01:48:53 AM
^^^^

I might look out for that. I read quite a lot of Colette when I was young (in English, except for Le Blé en Herbe, which I just about coped with).

In what way is it conventional?
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on October 09, 2018, 01:54:00 AM

I've always liked Colette, and found her life and novels more than fascinating.
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Post by: oilgun on October 09, 2018, 08:36:40 PM
^^^^

I might look out for that. I read quite a lot of Colette when I was young (in English, except for Le Blé en Herbe, which I just about coped with).

In what way is it conventional?

I'm embarrassed to say that I knew very little about her life and haven't read any of her books.

By conventional I just meant that it follows her life - during the Willy years- chronologically in a very straightforward manner. Very Merchant and Ivory I guess. It was a delight to watch though, with gorgeous costumes and production design and a great cast but I did find the music a bit intrusive at times.

I just read a review that I agree with completely. It also makes me hope for a sequel that would deal with Colette's amazing life after her first marriage:

https://www.thewrap.com/colette-film-review-keira-knightley/

"[...]
Because we spend so much time on her first marriage, we never get to the Colette who became one of the first female war reporters, or wrote a bestselling novel referencing her own affair with her second husband’s teenage stepson, or rescued her Jewish third husband after he was arrested by the Gestapo, or influenced so many of the great minds of her time, or lived long enough to be embraced, shamed, shunned, and celebrated by the same society.

“Colette” does offer us an engaging introduction to a fascinating woman. But it’s hard not to wonder: Why tell the story of an avant-garde, ambisexual iconoclast if you’re planning to play it so safe?"
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Post by: Sara B on October 10, 2018, 02:52:56 AM
Sounds attractive.
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Post by: Flyboy on October 13, 2018, 09:45:47 PM
I tried to watch The Kindergarten Teacher with Maggie G, but my Netflix wouldn't cooperate, or whatever, kept restarting, or resetting the film...I finally just shut it off. Will try another day. Love watching Maggie G.
Wondering if anyone else caught it yet? 
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 14, 2018, 11:20:45 AM

--Wildlife

One of my SAG friends invited me to two screenings this weekend. This is one of them. It stars
Carey Mulligan, whom I'm not a fan of...I liked her very first film she got wide attention for, An
Education, but I haven't cottoned to her since. It also stars Jake Gyllenhaal.

It's hard for me to review the film or even talk about the performances because this is a movie
that I just sat and watched and had no feeling toward it from beginning to end.

Going in I had no idea what it was about or who directed, nothing but who the two leads were.
So when it started I found out it's a period piece set in 1960's Montana, mostly, and was going
to revolve around a family, Jake and Carey, the mother and father, and a son. At first everything
about the film, especially the period aspects, had me ready to go with the film, but nothing changed
for me from that moment on. It was like I was experiencing something that made no sense to me.
I was like an observer who came into town and started watching things going on that I had no idea
why or who they were or anything.

So this morning I looked up the film on Rotten Tomatoes and it has 25 reviews at the moment that
are nearly all from when the film was shown at one film festival and all 25 of them rate it positively.
This is what the "critics concensus" says: Wildlife's portrait of a family in crisis, elegantly adapted from
Richard Ford's novel, is beautifully composed by director Paul Dano -- and brought brilliantly to life by a
career-best performance from Carey Mulligan. (I'm impressed that critics can tell one performance from
another by her.)

Maybe I shouldn't try to make sense of my experience. I really thought there was such a profound absence
of backstory to any of the characters that it really made no sense as to what they were doing or why. (Which
means it left me not caring. The central character, the son, witnesses what's happening to his family, but it's
all one note as to how he reacts to it, it's as though he had the same problem as me...what am I watching and
what is going on. And why. While watching it I kept thinking that the director was more interested in making
pretty camera shots, as though he was arranging photographs in an appealing way on a wall. I enjoy period
film making, but I felt on occasion it wasn't presented as real, and perhaps that's because of my previous
sentence to this one. When I found out at the end it was directed by Paul Dano, an odd person who plays
odd characters most of the time, it seemed to make more sense.

For those more interested in Jake, you should know he disappears for the middle part of the film.

Good luck!
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 14, 2018, 11:30:34 AM

--Can You Ever Forgive Me?

This is the other film I saw and I also had no idea what it was about, just who the leads
were, Melissa McCarthy and Richard Grant.

Jane Curtin has a small role, too, playing her writer's agent. It's based on a true story of a less than successful
author (McCarthy) named Lee Israel, who writes biographies of famous people that no one's really interested in
and she's having trouble making ends meet. While she is researching something she finds a typed letter signed
by Fanny Brice in a book she's using for research and tries to sell it for some money, but they say it isn't that
interesting a letter to collector's because of the mundane content and offer very little for it. She gets the idea
to start forging these type of letters (and signatures) that interest collectors and begins doing so.

I thought this world of author memorabilia and collectibles and the type of people who navigate this world
and why was intriguing.

Richard Grant is a gay friend she tolerates (she's lesbian, too, but it's a more peripheral tangent than Grant).
I was intrigued with the subject matter and liked that Melissa McCarthy toned down her usual loud, obnoxious,
physical personas she has in all her other movies. The Richard Grant character is very well-played, but seems
a bit like a stereotype that we, maybe not others, have seen so often before. Jane Curtin's role I wish had been
somewhat larger.

It probably won't be on any favorite movie lists of mine, but I was satisfied enough to say I liked it. Oh, it's based
on the real life person who actually got into this scheme and subsequently wrote a book about it with the same title.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 14, 2018, 11:39:43 AM

--Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom

I saw this one last week. It had all the elements I've liked about all the other films in the series,
both Jurassic Park and Jurassic World, so I enjoyed it. It what I wanted and what I expected in
these films!


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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 15, 2018, 11:05:47 AM

--The Catcher Was a Spy

This is a recent film about Moe Greenburg.  He was a baseball player who ended up being a spy for the U.S. during WWII.

It stars Paul Rudd with a substantial supporting cast including Jeff Daniels, Connie Nielsen,
Guy Pearce, Sienna Miller, Mark Strong, Paul Giamatti, Giancarlo Giannini and Tom Wilkinson.

By all accounts he was very secretive. To say this man was unique is an understatement. For example, he spoke at least
7 languages, read ten newspapers a day, studied law, was very academic, well-traveled and played major league baseball.

The film is based on a 1994 biography of Moe Berg.  There is also a documentary in the works about him that is set to
be ready next year.

This film presents Moe Berg as a closeted gay man. The more info you read about Moe Berg the more that idea makes
perfect sense, but reading some things about the film and a few things about Moe Berg this morning, this has apparently
caused some to declare this aspect as "questionable behind-the-scenes decisions."

In other words, it's the age old problem of "is/was someone gay or not."  We all know people seem to view this question
differently and each person has their own scale of belief. Some never believe it. Some only will if the person publicly declares
it. Some will believe a closeted persons denials that they are. Etc. Etc. Etc.

To be clear, this issue as presented is not a major part of this film, it's in some details. But it has now been argued if the detail
is correct or not. As one reviewer wrote:  ...the film seizes on scraps of gossip in Dawidoff's book (the biography it's based on) to assert
that he was a closeted gay man whose relationships with women were, even if genuinely loving, mostly a disguise.


[...] Asked through a publicist if his team had evidence beyond the book to justify this characterization, Lewin said "yes...we have used
primary historical sources to inform our depiction of Moe Berg's sexuality." Pressed for details, the director was vague before saying, "We
have not tried to depict Moe as gay. He is shown as a man who genuinely loved women, and who may have engaged with other men.
We have reflected the innuendo that followed Moe, and not tried to prove anything."


The reviewer of this film, who liked it quite well, feels this is a problem because the source material is too vague (to him or everyone?) to
definitively portray Moe Berg as a closeted male. The reviewers explanation: The Catcher Was a Spy feels both like a disservice to Berg and
an insult to historical figures like Alan Turing, who paid a tremendous price for their sexuality after giving everything they had to the war
effort. For decades, big-screen biographies glossed over the private lives of even flamboyant gay men. Taking a very private figure and
inventing a sex life that moviegoers will assume is true is hardly a step forward.


The only quibble I'd have with what the reviewer said is that this is only an issue for those portrayed as gay on flimsy evidence. No one
would care if a man who was gay, but not proven, was to be portrayed as straight. That wouldn't be an issue. Sometimes I believe it's
all right to say, with all that we know, is there the possibility that this was the case? If there's the possibility then I'm okay with it. This
situation reminds me of the same kind of thing talked about with Sandy Koufax, another baseball player, who is still around. It had never
ever occurred to me that he might be gay until a controversy about it came out when a biography was written in the 1990's. Since then,
there are so many puzzle pieces that I've come across that fit together so well, that I'm pretty convinced he is.

At the same time, the notion that Doris Day had an affair with black player Maury Wills of the Dodgers, got very little attention and no one
got into many disputes about that!  Doris Day has denied many gossipy things written about her, but she has not denied this.

All of this sidetracks from the fact that I found the film quite interesting. I like films that have different takes on the history we
all know, like WWII intrigue and such. Movies like last year's WWII set The Zookeeper's Wife, for intstance. The trailer and publicity
for the film makes it sound action-oriented, which is why I feel some critics haven't liked it. THe action is way more cerebral than
audiences are used to nowadays.

I'll be looking forward to the documentary and I'll be quite interested in how they present the notion that Berg was a closeted gay man.
With the biography and movie bringing it up, the documentary will surely have to address it in some way.  Though, Ken Burns' hours
long documentary didn't address any of that concerning Eleanor Roosevelt.

We shall see, I guess.

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Post by: B.W. on October 20, 2018, 01:14:05 AM
Over the w/e i watched the disturbing movie "Mississippi Burning".
Starring: Gene Hackman...William Dafoe... and the fabulous Francis McDormand and
so many other great actors.

The story is based on real events that happened in Mississippi. It concerns the murder of 3 young men working for civil rights. They had been to a civil rights
meeting and were driving back through Mississippi...when they were spotted by
some members of the KKK....noticing that one of the young men was coloured.

Great movie...but as I said very disturbing.


I think I saw "Mississippi Burning" (1989) before some years ago, but I'm not quite sure.  I heard that the families of the three slain male civil rights activists were very upset by the film. Just think,  these brutal and heinous murders did not take place too long ago.  The deaths of those three young male civil rights activists in Mississippi, the murder of Medgar Evers, the lynching of Emmett Till and the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama on Sunday morning, September 15th, 1963 which resulted in the deaths of four young African-American girls: 11-year-old Carol Denise McNair, 14-year-old Addie Mae Collins, 14-year-old Cynthia Dianne Morris Wesley and 14-year-old Carole Rosamond Robertson; the murders of the two young black boys Johnny Robinson and Virgil Ware, which also took place in Birmingham on the same day as the church bombing, they are such heartbreaking stories and were some of the most tragic evens that occurred during the civil rights era.  Spike Lee's theatrical documentary film about the experiences of the black community of Birmingham during the civil rights movement, also tells the story of the lives and deaths of the four girls who lost their lives in the church bombing and the events that took place after the bombing, "4 Little Girls" (1997), it is just so gut-wrenching, especially when the scene of the four girls' extremely graphic autopsy photographs is shown.  One of the four girls' head was blasted from her body in the explosion. The song "Birmingham Sunday" by Joan Baez that plays during the opening scene is so beautifully performed and so tragic.  The song "4 Little Girls" by Pantera Saint Montaigne that plays during the end credits scene that shows home footage of Denise McNair is just so poignant.  I cried all through my first viewing of "4 Little Girls".


My husband shed tears and even let out a few strangled cries when watching "4 Little Girls" with me, and he almost never cries. I think that the film received an Academy Award nomination for Best Documentary Film or whatever that category is called.  The film was given a limited theatrical release before airing on the HBO channel.  I may be wrong, but I think that "4 Little Girls" played in theaters for about three months in North America, I don't know if the movie was shown in theaters in countries outside of the U.S.   I also believe that the movie was nominated on one of the American Film Institute's lists not so long ago, but I am not quite sure about that. If you haven't seen "4 Little Girls", you really should at least consider watching it.  It is so powerful and sad at the same time. Spike Lee originally wasn't planning for the film to be a documentary, but he felt that it would be more important to let the people who lived through that era and the loved ones of the four girls tell the story in their own words.
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Post by: B.W. on October 20, 2018, 01:18:08 AM
I'm late posting this as I saw both movies on Sunday!

1) " All About Eve".....starring Bette Davis,Anne Baxter,Celeste Holme, George Sanders and others !
You may well think from the title of the movie that "Eve"  is Bette Davis.....
wrong....Eve is Anne Baxter. Bette is Margo...an ageing actress.

Eve is the young "wanna" be actress who ingratiates hers self on Margo......
and gradually gets the parts Margo once did/wants.

Anything Bette Davis did...never disappoints.

                                             *************

2) Spotlight.(2015).....starring...Marc Ruffolo,Michael Keaton,Rachel McAdams,
and the fabulous Stanley Tucci who so under played his character.

The newspaper "The Boston Globe"....after hearing the story of widespread child
abuse in Boston by Catholic Priests..who never got bought to justice but just
got moved to another parish....began investigating the whole story...which after
an indepth investigation they realized it was going on all over the world ..right
up to the Vatican.

Brilliant movie...though disturbing.


Univesal Pictures' "Spotlight" (2015) is a very disturbing but is very good and powerful film.  The Spotlight team for the Boston Globe were so brave to tackly such a difficult story and I applaud their magnificent job at doing it.  I'm glad that the film won the Academy Award for Best Picture in 2016.
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Post by: B.W. on October 20, 2018, 01:35:57 AM
OK, I haven't followed the link, but ain't that the truth:

"Christians criticizing Chris Pratt Need to Look in the mirror."

As someone who is trying to live his life as one--Christian, that is (relax--high church Episcopalian)--I find it only too true that so often some of these people who call themselves Christians have apparently never read the Bible passage about casting the first stone (John 8:7).

(I knew the saying but I had to look up the book, chapter, and verse.  ::) )


I didn't know Chris Pratt was religious, if he is an Episcopalian, perhaps he is more liberal.  When I was involved with the Episcopal Church, most of the Episcopalians that I knew were more moderate than liberal.
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Post by: B.W. on October 20, 2018, 01:40:33 AM
^^^^ Yeap.  The long ordeal after his son was born  surface some of this...  Though I might be wrong. There's a long VF article on Pratt.

As long as Pratt separates his faith from this on-screen work, it probably won't stop me from seeing his film (unless he goes completely all wingnut).  For instance, like Cruise. It takes all types to make the world go round...

It's a tough road he's on b/c having one spouse deeply religious and the other not so is a recipe for a major struggle especially when there are kids caught in the middle.  V.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/01/chris-pratt-cover-story?mbid=social_twitter

https://www.getreligion.org/getreligion/2017/8/14/chris-pratt-and-anna-faris-announce-separation-might-faith-play-a-role-in-this-story
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/chorusinthechaos/christians-criticizing-chris-pratt-need-look-mirror/
https://www.getreligion.org/getreligion/2018/6/20/chris-pratt-uses-mtv-as-pulpit-for-his-faith-were-his-nine-rules-for-living-news-or-not



Yeah, having two parents from different religious backgrounds can be difficult.  My mother always seemed to be disappointed that I married a man who wasn't religious, possibly because she did something similar and feels that she probably shouldn't have.  My mother is a lifelong practicing Jehovah's Witness and dad is lifelong practicing Seventh-day Adventist, but my father is certainly more liberal than my mother who I have never been close to.  My dad and I have always been close, but growing and being raised as a JW who secretly didn't believe much of the doctrines of my mother's denomination and having my mother be such a dominating religious influence on me, I never knew much about his faith until later when I became involved with the SDAs later on.
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Post by: gattaca on October 20, 2018, 08:01:42 AM
.... Thanks for the recommendation on "4 Little Girls"  I must have missed it.  Having a 1 yr old then, it was hard to see anything.  Adding to my "must see listing"!  V.   
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 20, 2018, 12:43:40 PM

--Ocean's 8

This is a heist movie with all female leads. While it is watchable, it's also not very original except in the idea of casting all women.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 20, 2018, 01:09:30 PM
--Ocean's 8

This is a heist movie with all female leads. While it is watchable, it's also not very original except in the idea of casting all women.

Gimmick?
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Post by: gattaca on October 21, 2018, 04:00:28 PM
Saw "First Man" at the Imax.  Not sure I care for many, many facial closeups the director (LaLa Land) chose for this film. I could count pores on Gosling's nose or the rings in his eyes (ok maybe the latter....  8)  ) This film reveals the depth of Gosling as an actor.   I mean from "LaLa Land" to "First Man" is quite a range.  His mannerisms in "First Man" remind me of the buried intensity Ledger delivered with Ennis. The looks, the pauses, the faint grins, the inability to show his love and sometimes the anger. 

Armstrong was quite a brilliant engineer and I learned a few things such as he had a daughter.  He was also a key player in us getting to the moon.  He was a bit of recluse in his life and especially much later and when you are the first man to walk on the moon, well... I get it.

The director immerses you into the action at a depth and pace I've not seen.  He delivers a POV which you will likely never get of what it was like to be in Armstrong's seat, looking thru his eyes.  He also shows you an intimate portrait of the man's life at home, his wife, his kids, the losses, the pressures.   

If you are going to see this film, and you do not do well on roller coasters, then do not eat before seeing this film.  It can be quite disorientating b/c of the PoV I made earlier. 

Overall, this is more a character study of Neil Armstrong and the American Space program during those critical years.  It's not a film you are going to walk out of cheering. 

Rotten -> https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/first_man
Ebert's site -> https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/first-man-2018

"If you want to get an almost first-person sense of what it felt like to fly in one of the earliest supersonic planes or ride a rocket into orbit and beyond, "First Man" is the movie to see. More so than other films about the US space program, including "The Right Stuff" and "Apollo 13," it makes the experience seem more wild and scary than grand, like being in the cab of a runaway truck as it smashes through a guardrail and tumbles down the side of a mountain."

...

" The large-scale action scenes in "First Man" play like the most hellish amusement park ride ever, so unrelenting that you'll wonder how long you'd have been able to endure the real thing without giving up and pressing the "Eject" button. The three stars at the top of this review are for Chazelle and Sandgren's visuals, Gosling's internalized but rarely mannered acting, the script's ability to communicate Neil's buried emotions without dialogue, and the bowel-rattling sound design."

As for the controversy on not showing Armstrong actually planting the American Flag on the lunar surface, they did show several shots of the planted flag outside the capsule and they did deliver the "one small step" speech.

These (*(@*(@*( just want something to complain about - the bigger picture was framed in his words... "one giant step for mankind."  Such small minded arrogant people.

One viewing is enough for me.  If you are not a super geek or just love the story or Gosling, then you might want to wait for this on DVD/streaming.

I saw the film b/c Gosling had prime billing and I frankly like the guy.  Loved BladeRunner 2013 and Drive and many others.  Also, he did a movie which got panned in 2005 called "Stay".  The premise is dark but it's one of my favorites b/c you don't really figure out until well into the game.  Roger Ebert gave it 3.5/4.0 stars... so that should tell you all you need to know right there -> https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/stay-2005

V.


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Post by: BlueAmber63 on October 22, 2018, 05:45:03 PM
This w/e gone ...I went to see the new "A Star is Born"....starring Bradley Cooper..
Lady Gaga....and the fabulous Sam Elliot!

The music is a cross between country and rock ! Great.  :) Both Bradley ...as
a non-singer and Lady Gaga really gave it their all and were superb.

                                            "SPOILER"

Bradley's character is famous rock/country star. He stops off one night at a bar
(gay bar)...where Lady Gaga's character was doing a small gig.
He was impressed to say the least! She was a raw talent. She wrote her own songs
which impressed him.
The character she played was almost...but not so wild...like  Janis Jopplin.
But as she got to be more well known...with a hunk of help from Bradley's character
...the record companies took her over and for the want of a better comparison....turned her into a Brittney Spears type performer.Individuality
was gone.

I loved it. The music was great and Bradley Cooper wonderful..BUT.....all I could think about ..through out the movie..was how I wanted to wash his hair !!!!!

Hope this is OK...not much good at doing reviews !!

                                       
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Post by: Flyboy on October 23, 2018, 08:52:52 AM
Bwwwaahhhhaaaa!! That's hilarious!! Wash his hair!! Whenever I see someone with dirty hair, dirty teeth, or dirty skin, I just want to hose them down!! thanks for the laugh!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 28, 2018, 12:23:19 PM
Last evening our local PBS station ran Julie and Julia. I hadn't seen it, so I was glad to have a chance finally to see Meryl Streep as Julia Child. What can I say? Dead on!  :D

Of course, I adore Amy Adams. Chris Messina, who played Adams' husband, was unknown to me, but I think he's hot. I would go there. ...
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 28, 2018, 03:15:26 PM

I, too, liked that film and thought Meryl did a fantastic job!
And Jane Lynch played her sister!
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on October 28, 2018, 04:11:22 PM

--Green Book

I was invited to see this film, but didn't know anything about it. I was told it was like a Driving Miss Daisy story with a white man (Viggo Mortensen) driving around a black man (Mahershala Ali, Oscar winner for Moonlight).

This film is incredibly entertaining, as well as thought provoking. The credits tell us the film was inspired by the true story of Tony Lip (Mortensen), a bouncer from an Italian-American neighborhood in the Bronx, 1962, who is hired to drive Dr. Don Shirley (Ali), a world-class Black pianist, on a concert tour from Manhattan to the Deep South.

The "Green Book" of the title is a guide that black people used to steer them to the few establishments (motels and restaurants, bars and the like) that were then safe for African-Americans to visit.  (Probably like the Damron Guide that gay people used.)

The pair are an odd couple often confronting each others prejudices and lifestyles and just human habits. I'm betting that some critics are going to feel the film needs to be harsher on the racial side of things and some might dismiss it as they did Driving Miss Daisy, but, as I said, it's based on a true story (I believe the actual guy that Mortensen plays has a hand in the screenplay) and I can't imagine people wouldn't enjoy this film. Viggo Mortensen, whom I have to say I've never really been a fan of, and Mahershala Ali, are a great screen team and both have some really fine moments in the film.

I'm pretty sure it's not coming out until around Thanksgiving.


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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 28, 2018, 07:14:46 PM
Last evening our local PBS station ran Julie and Julia. I hadn't seen it, so I was glad to have a chance finally to see Meryl Streep as Julia Child. What can I say? Dead on!  :D

I, too, liked that film and thought Meryl did a fantastic job!
And Jane Lynch played her sister!

And I didn't even notice her!  :o  I saw her name in the credits and wondered, "Who was she?"  ::)
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on October 28, 2018, 07:20:36 PM
--Green Book

I've been seeing TV commercials for it.

Quote
I was invited to see this film, but didn't know anything about it. I was told it was like a Driving Miss Daisy story with a white man (Viggo Mortensen) driving around a black man (Mahershala Ali, Oscar winner for Moonlight).

OMG, I've been trying to place the actor in the commercials. It's been driving me crazy.  :laugh:

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The "Green Book" of the title is a guide that black people used to steer them to the few establishments (motels and restaurants, bars and the like) that were then safe for African-Americans to visit.

Thanks, Lyle. I've been wondering what the title means.

Quote
I'm pretty sure it's not coming out until around Thanksgiving.

That's what I've been seeing in the TV commercials.
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Post by: Flyboy on November 02, 2018, 08:17:03 AM
It's sorta the weekend here.  ;)

I watched A Star is Born last night. Only because I am a bit of a Streisand fan, and loved her version of this story and I wanted to see what the newest version did differently. Someone commented that they spent the whole time wishing they could WASH Bradley Cooper's hair!! hahaha.......so that caught my attention as well. He does seem kinda greasy throughout the film, like he just needs a good soaping down and shampoo! But the 2 stars did make the film and story their own, IMHO, you understand? There were parts I didn't care for, and the overall film didn't really move me to tears at the end, like some have said. Cooper did a good job of performing, I was surprised by his voice. And Gaga, well, she was dialed-down for this role. When success found her in the film, I thought her performances after that part would be mind-blowing. I'd love to see her live though. Not sure that when THAT will happen. The film will make a ton of money, but Oscar-worthy performances? Hmmm, I don't think so. Sam Elliot and Andrew Dice Clay were GREAT in their parts. I think one of them could earn an Oscar nom.........you never know.......
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 02, 2018, 11:06:18 AM
It's sorta the weekend here.  ;)

I watched A Star is Born last night. Only because I am a bit of a Streisand fan...

I'm sure you know Barbra has a new album coming out titled WALLS.  So, she's been popping up here
and there on TV lately.  Last night she was on James Corden's show and did a Carpool Karaoke segment
with him.  Did you see it?  If not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSG7Os-Uzlk

She's also going to appear on Real Time with Bill Maher on Friday. I'm sure youtube will come up with some clips or segments
if one doesn't get HBO.  I might have been surprised she'd be a guest on that show, but he had an Anniversary special last
month and she did some interview segments for it.

I just realized Friday--that's today!



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Post by: Flyboy on November 02, 2018, 01:38:51 PM
Yes, I caught the bit on Corden's show. I NEVER watch him. She's gone full-bore on the plastic surgery now!! LORD!! I think she everything done from the neck on UP! Yet, I suppose she can still claim to never having her nose fixed........hmmm? Some say she's been having little nips and tucks since the late 80's, who can say? I hope she stops before she starts looking completely garish like some do.......not my beeswax, I guess. Wonder is James will have his neck done too? All that money, why not?! LOL....

I wanted her to stop singing around 2000/2001, that timeframe. Her voice has mostly been hoarse sounding since then. No more belting those notes out non-stop. I did see her in 2006, a GIFT to me. I would have NEVER paid to see her then, but FREE is FREE, so I went!! hahaha.......sorry, wrong thread here!!

I'm going to try and see The Kindergarten Teacher with Maggie G this weekend, again!! Last time my NetFlix wouldn't cooperate, so I need to try again. I hope it's good! She one of my favorite actors......I dare say I like her work better than Jake's!!  :o :o :o :o
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Post by: killersmom on November 02, 2018, 02:53:12 PM
I'm sure you know Barbra has a new album coming out titled WALLS.  So, she's been popping up here
and there on TV lately.  Last night she was on James Corden's show and did a Carpool Karaoke segment
with him.  Did you see it?  If not:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSG7Os-Uzlk

She's also going to appear on Real Time with Bill Maher on Friday. I'm sure youtube will come up with some clips or segments
if one doesn't get HBO.  I might have been surprised she'd be a guest on that show, but he had an Anniversary special last
month and she did some interview segments for it.

I just realized Friday--that's today!





The only problem I have with Barbra is that she has had another round of plastic surgery and is starting to look like The Cat Woman.
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Post by: Flyboy on November 03, 2018, 12:37:24 PM
Tis True, Linda!! To each their own, I guess.  :o :o :o
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Post by: gattaca on November 03, 2018, 02:42:36 PM
Tis True, Linda!! To each their own, I guess.  :o :o :o
LOL, it's all a part of the Hollywood Persona... keep it up!  V.  8)
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Post by: Flyboy on November 10, 2018, 08:47:11 AM
I'm going to watch Outlaw King this weekend sometime!!  ;D
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Post by: Flyboy on November 10, 2018, 08:49:21 AM
Oh, and going to TRY and watch The Kindergarten Teacher with Maggie G......it wouldn't keep running last time I tried watched it, fits and starts all through the first 10 minutes!!  >:( >:( >:( >:(
So, we'll see...........don't know if anyone here has watched it though......
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Post by: B.W. on November 10, 2018, 04:49:20 PM
I'm going to watch Outlaw King this weekend sometime!!  ;D


I think that Paramount Pictures is going to make a film on Robert the Bruce that will serve as a sequel to Mel Gibson's "Braveheart" (1995).
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Post by: B.W. on November 10, 2018, 04:52:53 PM
It's sorta the weekend here.  ;)

I watched A Star is Born last night. Only because I am a bit of a Streisand fan, and loved her version of this story and I wanted to see what the newest version did differently. Someone commented that they spent the whole time wishing they could WASH Bradley Cooper's hair!! hahaha.......so that caught my attention as well. He does seem kinda greasy throughout the film, like he just needs a good soaping down and shampoo! But the 2 stars did make the film and story their own, IMHO, you understand? There were parts I didn't care for, and the overall film didn't really move me to tears at the end, like some have said. Cooper did a good job of performing, I was surprised by his voice. And Gaga, well, she was dialed-down for this role. When success found her in the film, I thought her performances after that part would be mind-blowing. I'd love to see her live though. Not sure that when THAT will happen. The film will make a ton of money, but Oscar-worthy performances? Hmmm, I don't think so. Sam Elliot and Andrew Dice Clay were GREAT in their parts. I think one of them could earn an Oscar nom.........you never know.......



I am probably only one of a few people that actually liked the film adaptation of "Hello, Dolly!".  Barbra was great in "Yentl", at least I thought so.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 10, 2018, 08:14:50 PM
I am probably only one of a few people that actually liked the film adaptation of "Hello, Dolly!".

I guess I'm another one of the few. I like it, too. I take it on its own terms, I enjoy the music and the spectacle, and I don't worry about anything else.
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Post by: brian on November 10, 2018, 08:59:06 PM


I am probably only one of a few people that actually liked the film adaptation of "Hello, Dolly!".  Barbra was great in "Yentl", at least I thought so.
I loved Barbra in Hello Dolly and have seen the movie several times. In fact I had seen it before I saw the stage musical in a suburban amateur production in which a friend was acting. I am afraid I came out and said about the poor actress who did her best "She is no Barbra Streisand".
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Post by: brian on November 10, 2018, 09:12:23 PM
I saw "Bohemian Rhapsody" and enjoyed it very much. At 2 and a quarter hours I was a bit hesitant at seeing it but did not look at my watch until near the end. I believe there are a lot of inaccuracies. If you had asked me a week before which songs were sung by Queen, I would not have been able to tell you. However, as I was regularly at discos every weekend from about 1978 to 82, most of the songs were recognisable.  With the exception of the Beatles and perhaps the Village People, I have never taken a lot of notice of who is singing, just enjoy the music. Despite living in Sydney, I had never attended a Rock Concert until I moved to Dunedin and saw Elton John at our the new covered stadium in 2011.
I remember we were a bit p...d off with Freddie because he did not admit to having AIDS nor being bisexual until the day he died.
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Post by: Gazapete on November 10, 2018, 11:33:47 PM
I remember that too, Brian, I guess he just wanted to keep his privacy, because he never was one to hide himself. Let's see if I can drag my M to watch the movie with me , I have always loved Queen. That's why I'm a bit hesitant to watch it.
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Post by: tfferg on November 10, 2018, 11:36:44 PM
I'd like to see it, but I'm not sure my bladder will hold out for 2 hours 15 minutes.
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Post by: brian on November 11, 2018, 02:57:45 AM
If you loved Queen I think you would love the movie. All the reviews are good about the actor who plays the role of Freddie and how well he portrays him, many say Oscar material.  While we see a bad side of Freddie, the rest of the band come over well. I certainly enjoyed the music.
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Post by: tfferg on November 11, 2018, 04:37:54 AM
I would like to see the film, but i would have to go to the toilet at least once during a screening of that length.
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Post by: gattaca on November 11, 2018, 06:19:04 AM
I remember that too, Brian, I guess he just wanted to keep his privacy, because he never was one to hide himself. Let's see if I can drag my M to watch the movie with me , I have always loved Queen. That's why I'm a bit hesitant to watch it.
Yes... it was one of those things everyone knew.  I remember "We are the Champions" or "Another one bites the dust!" being played at so many events like HS/College Football games during the 1980's.  I was standing there, thinking, "... all of these people are FOS and in full on denial!"  The dichotomy of the hateful words coming outta their mouths about gay people while cheering on wildly with Queen's brilliant songs loudly ringing in the background.  It was too fracking surreal!!

I wanted to see this at the IMAX but the reviews have been lukewarm and very mixed. Not too bad on Rotten but others have lanced it.  With Remi Malek, they found the perfect actor to play Freddie Mercury.  I may watch it still but it's gone from the IMAX. 

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/bohemian_rhapsody/
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/movies/bohemian-rhapsody-review.html
https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/bohemian-rhapsody-2018

"The lies we tell..."  V. 
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Post by: Gazapete on November 11, 2018, 06:40:29 AM
They probably didn't even know they were Queen's songs, I bet most of them just found out because of the movie. Oh well...
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Post by: Sara B on November 11, 2018, 06:52:07 AM
I’m going Tuesday afternoon.

Tony, get a seat at the end of the row and just go when you need to!
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Post by: janiebbmart on November 11, 2018, 09:25:53 AM
I loved it.  ;D
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Post by: Flyboy on November 11, 2018, 10:20:34 AM
I watched Outlaw King last night.......and for those who wonder, at least on my screen I didn't SEE any full frontal nudity, I realize it IS there in the lake bathing scene with Chris Pine, but honestly, I didn't SEE anything....LOL!!  ;D ;D ;D

If you know the storyline, or the historical references, you'd probably enjoy it much more than I did. I probably won't watch it ever again, nudity or not......... ;D
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Post by: Flyboy on November 11, 2018, 10:44:46 AM


I am probably only one of a few people that actually liked the film adaptation of "Hello, Dolly!".  Barbra was great in "Yentl", at least I thought so.
Oh, some more Streisand fans in here?!!  :o :o :o.....I'm only a real fan of her voice though. I liked some of her performances in films, but certainly not all of them! Being a Singer I was drawn to her singing early on, her ability to appear effortless in performing a wide range of material fascinated me. Her ability to sing RIGHT in the CENTER of the note, and hold that center really gets me. I just wish she had quit performing LIVE in 2000. I was, I guess, lucky enough to see her LIVE in NYC back in 2006, and it was a huge dissapointment for me, her voice was very hoarse, not off-key though, but sounded really bad, except for ONE SONG: I Stayed Too Long at the Fair, she nailed that song, exactly like she recorded it in WAY back in the 60's. Could it have been lip-synch?? I don't THINK so, but one never knows with today's technologies.....anyway, I like to say that made the whole experience worth it, but not so much. I'm GLAD to hear she claims to be totally DONE with LIVE performances now.......GOD I hope so........ ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 11, 2018, 12:20:50 PM
I loved Barbra in Hello Dolly and have seen the movie several times. In fact I had seen it before I saw the stage musical in a suburban amateur production in which a friend was acting. I am afraid I came out and said about the poor actress who did her best "She is no Barbra Streisand".

"Dolly" is the only show where I have ever gotten to see a role played by the person who originated it. It must have been Carol Channing's last tour, and I couldn't tell you how many years ago it was, but it played the old Schubert theater here in Philadelphia, and I made sure I got to see it.
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Post by: BlueAmber63 on November 11, 2018, 02:08:48 PM
Couldn't resist a 4-5-6...viewing of "The Big Lebowski" last night.
We needed a laugh.....and it worked.
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Post by: tfferg on November 11, 2018, 03:02:25 PM
I’m going Tuesday afternoon.

Tony, get a seat at the end of the row and just go when you need to!

I always try to get a seat on the aisle and in the back row because so many people kick the seat in front of them.

I've started going to a big old cinema in Northcote that has been converted into 5 smaller cinemas. It has the widest leg room I've ever found.
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Post by: oilgun on November 11, 2018, 03:41:52 PM
Finally saw A Star is Born so I can check that off my homework list. What is there to say,  I enjoyed it well enough, I guess, I just wish I had a date. I don't know, I think I'm due for a Lars von Trier or Yórgos Lánthimos:

The Favourite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYb-wkehT1g
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYb-wkehT1g)


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Post by: CellarDweller115 on November 11, 2018, 05:15:30 PM
Couldn't resist a 4-5-6...viewing of "The Big Lebowski" last night.
We needed a laugh.....and it worked.


Oh no!

:laugh:

My boss found out I was on a bowling league, and was harassing me to see this movie for the longest time.  A few weeks ago it was on one of the cable networks, so I watched as much as I could take.  It wasn't for me at all.

:laugh:
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 12, 2018, 10:42:19 AM
^^^

I'm with you, Chuck!  I really don't get why so many have turned this into a cult film.
It does have a loyal following.
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Post by: Gazapete on November 12, 2018, 11:50:47 AM
I really liked it, not to the extreme of considering it a cult film, but I loved it. A friend of mine has the Dude's face tattooed on her arm  :laugh:
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 12, 2018, 12:19:00 PM

--The Seagull

This film was out in the middle of the year and stars Annette Bening, Saoirse Ronan, Corey Stoll,
Elisabeth Moss, Mare Winningham, Brian Dennehy and others. It's a film adaptation of the Chekhov
play. I thought it was serviceable, but not memorable. There is one character in the play who keeps
trying to off himself, but doesn't succeed which is darkly humorous, but in the film it doesn't really play
that way, which I thought was a mis-step. I was hoping it would be better, but it doesn't outstay its
welcome, which is a plus.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 12, 2018, 12:38:59 PM

--Sicario: Day of the Soldado

I liked Sicario. It starred Josh Brolin, Emily Blunt and Benicio del Toro. It's a film that is about the problems of
cartels, drug smuggling, border crossings and all of the conflicts of dealing with situations like that. It was
written by Taylor Sheridan and directed by Denis Villeneuve. It was well reviewed and had an Oscar nomination
or two.

Taylor Sheridan started out as an actor and appeared in two series, Veronica Mars and Sons of Anarchy. He then
tried his hand at writing a screenplay which was Sicario, and he followed that screenplay with Hell or High Water
and then with Wind River, which he also directed.  I've thought all three of those films were really good and so I
wanted to check out Sicario: Day of the Soldado, because he wrote that screenplay as well.

Sheridan has also still acted in some things and is currently involved in the cable series Yellowstone, which I have
not seen, as an actor, writer, director AND producer.

Sicario: Day of the Soldado (sicario means hitman and soldado means soldier) is not really a sequel, but rather a further
exploration of the border problems the U.S. has with Mexico concerning drugs, cartels and now terrorists. The film isn't
quite as subversive as the first one, which was a "hook" that made that film stand out, but it's a good action thriller.
Brolin and Del Toro reprise their roles. Catherine Keener and Matthew Modine are also in it. I haven't seen Keener in
awhile so that perked me up, but her role wasn't anything for her to shine in.

I recommend both of these films. They actually could be viewed in any order, as the second one is a story unto itself. A short
extra on the dvd says that Sheridan had envisioned this subject matter as a trilogy, so their may indeed be a third one at some
point.

 
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Post by: brian on November 12, 2018, 12:43:08 PM
--The Seagull

This film was out in the middle of the year and stars Annette Bening, Saoirse Ronan, Corey Stoll,
Elisabeth Moss, Mare Winningham, Brian Dennehy and others. It's a film adaptation of the Chekhov
play. I thought it was serviceable, but not memorable. There is one character in the play who keeps
trying to off himself, but doesn't succeed which is darkly humorous, but in the film it doesn't really play
that way, which I thought was a mis-step. I was hoping it would be better, but it doesn't outstay its
welcome, which is a plus.
I saw it a few weeks ago and enjoyed it a lot but would not rave about it to others becauseI think you would have to be like me and enjoy Russian novels and plays. I have discovered it is a very close adaptation of the play.
When I was flying to and from the UK, I began looking at "On Chesil Beach' which also stars Saoirse Ronan and Billy Howie but had problems with the sound (not unusual for me when flying) and went to some other movie and never got back to it. After seeing The Seagull, I looked but On Chesil beach was no longer showing which was disappointing. I do not want to say much about the attempted suicides as it will spoil the ending whichI think you missed
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 12, 2018, 12:50:24 PM

--Bird Box

This is a new film starring Sandra Bullock. Also in the cast are John Malkovich, B.D. Wong, Jacki Weaver
 and Sarah Paulson.

Not to give too much away, but the film starts out with Sandra Bullock telling two children they are embarking
on a journey in a small rowboat in an attempt to get to some sort of safety. They are admonished they have to
wear blindfolds and are to never take them off unless she tells them to under any circumstances. She is also
to wear the blindfolds. They proceed to get in the boat and sail away. We flashback to several years earlier to
find that "something" is causing masses of society to commit mass suicide when they look at that "something".
It's spreading around the globe. A group of people haphazardly get together in a house to deal with this situation
and the story switches occasionally back and forth to the three on the boat in the river back to the situation in the
house from whence it started.

I had no idea what the film was about when I went to see it and wasunprepared for it to be a movie like this one!  It
can be compared to A Quiet Place in many respects, though I feel Bird Box isn't quite as satisfying in the end and
it has stretches of character relationships that slow the movie down where it needn't have. But I'd recommend it
as a good thriller of this type. It will definitely keep you interested and maybe fascinated.

I guess I'd point out that there is some really graphic violence in it. It's also based on a recent book by a first time novelist.
 
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Post by: Flyboy on November 12, 2018, 01:05:50 PM
Bird Box: well I like all the actors in it, so maybe I'll see it soon....... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 12, 2018, 01:20:02 PM

--Roma

This is a film that I've seen advertised on TV the last ten days. It won Best Film at the Venice
Film Festival and the previews hail it as a superb personal film from director Alfonso Cuaron who
came to be known when he directed Y Tu Mama Tambien and then he won an Oscar for directing
Gravity.

It all takes place in Mexico and is subtitled...in fact in the beginning it says something about one language
being regularly subtitled, a different dialect is subtitled with brackets ( [like this] ) and indigenous languages
are not subtitled. It's all filmed in black and white.

After the film my friend asked me, and I also heard at least two others in the lobby pondering why it's called Roma.
They don't tell us in the movie. It took me awhile to find out, but it's because "Roma" was what the section of the
city was called in which most of the film takes place.

It takes place in 1970-71 and I read that it's an homage of sorts to the woman, a maid, that raised Cuaron and his
family.

When I saw the previews it made me think that this would be a director's vanity project, an arty piece that critics would
blindly fall for, especially in a film festival setting.

After seeing the film, that's exactly what it was. There really isn't any story in the film, we basically follow around this one maid
and people in the family. It has that arty direction where every shot is made to look like this is important. The b&w photography
makes Mexico look very cold, which is the last thing I think of when I think of Mexico.

The film is opening soon, but it's already being marketed as an Oscar contender and a deeply personal film from this acclaimed
director. It has 81 reviews on Rotten Tomatoes and the dates on all of them show that they're most likely from viewing it at the
Venice Film Festival. (I always distrust reviews en masse from film festivals, because they tend to exaggerate films in good or bad
ways depending on what films they've seen before or after.) ALL BUT ONE OF THE REVIEWS are positive. I agree with this opinion
of the one reviewer, from Britain, who said it was rotten:

"Too often Roma feels dramatically insipid (the family is actually profoundly boring) and unsure
of what it's trying to say about Cleo's life and her status - if it's saying anything at all."


I wanted to read the whole review, but the link to it says you have to sign up and/or pay on the site
it's on to do so.

Here's an example of one review that liked it:

"A masterful achievement in filmmaking as an empathy machine, a way for us to spend time in a
place, in an era, and with characters we never would otherwise."

Oh, really? Can't you say that about any film, good or bad? To me this film is akin to the cliche of going
to someone's house and they show you slides and photos of their kids and the vacation they just took.
They love it. The audience doesn't. It's not that what you're watching is boring, it's more like "Who cares?"

So be warned: I think all the critical praise being heaped on this film so far is "the emperor's new clothes" story.

The two lasting, and repeated, images I remember from the film are blobs of dog poop in the parking area by
the apartment, and in many shots a lone airplane flying far away above in the sky. In fact, they leave a shot
on screen when the credits are rolling and I whispered to my friend that we'll probably see another airplane fly
by...and sure enough.  I then whispered, "the repeated shots of planes in the sky throughout the film is to
represent the audience who wishes they could get out of the theatre."

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 12, 2018, 01:24:11 PM
I saw it a few weeks ago and enjoyed it a lot but would not rave about it to others becauseI think you would have to be like me and enjoy Russian novels and plays. I have discovered it is a very close adaptation of the play.

When I was flying to and from the UK, I began looking at "On Chesil Beach' which also stars Saoirse Ronan and Billy Howie but had problems with the sound (not unusual for me when flying) and went to some other movie and never got back to it. After seeing The Seagull, I looked but On Chesil beach was no longer showing which was disappointing. I do not want to say much about the attempted suicides as it will spoil the ending whichI think you missed


No...I didn't miss it...   ;)


I like Chekhov, my favorite play is Uncle Vanya.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 12, 2018, 01:25:49 PM
the story switches occasionally back and forth to the three on the boat in the river

Or even IN the boat ON the river.    :)

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Post by: oilgun on November 12, 2018, 08:56:51 PM
Saw The Hate U Give and loved it. It's an adaptation of a best selling YA novel. It's a must see. The actress is a revelation.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 17, 2018, 11:31:13 AM

--Mary Queen of Scots

This film stars Saoirse Ronan as Mary and Margot Robbie as Elizabeth I.  Jack Lowden and Joe Alwyn provide some
very nice eye candy as well.

I liked this telling of the story with its modernist (current) approach to the subject matter. The two leads are quite
good and I particularly liked the direction in the last quarter of the film. For material that might be familiar to many,
this take revitalizes ones interest in it.

For awhile now I have not liked filmmakers penchant for photographing so many period films in monochromatic styles.
Compare films like Becket or Anne of the Thousand Days or the 1971 Mary Queen of Scotts, to see what I mean. This
movie wasn't as noticeable in that regard as many have been. (The new Robin Hood movie for example.)

I remember seeing the 1971 film version on VHS at one time, and I recall liking it, but I just looked at the trailer of it on
youtube to refresh my memory and i have to say nothing rang a bell.

In any event, those interested in seeing this film I feel will be well rewarded.



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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 17, 2018, 03:11:27 PM
--Mary Queen of Scots

I liked this telling of the story with its modernist (current) approach to the subject matter.

Oh, dear. What do you mean by that, Lyle? I don't like period pieces that are made to be "contemporary."

Quote
For awhile now I have not liked filmmakers penchant for photographing so many period films in monochromatic styles.
Compare films like Becket or Anne of the Thousand Days or the 1971 Mary Queen of Scotts, to see what I mean.

I've seen all of them, and that still seems to be a technical term i don't understand.

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I remember seeing the 1971 film version on VHS at one time, and I recall liking it, but I just looked at the trailer of it on
youtube to refresh my memory and i have to say nothing rang a bell.

Notable for Glenda Jackson's first appearance as Elizabeth I, I believe. Probably also a bit daring for its suggestion of a homosexual relationship between Lord Darnley, Mary's husband, and David Rizzio, the Italian who was Mary's secretary--at least, I think I have that part right; it's been quite a while.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 18, 2018, 11:00:01 AM
Oh, dear. What do you mean by that, Lyle? I don't like period pieces that are made to be "contemporary."

I Just mean that it reflects the current atmosphere. Two strong women and their shared plight of being held hostage by "conniving, belittling, power-hungry men determined to usurp their authority."  There's casting reminding one that people of color have always been part of society, even during the Renaissance and Age of Discovery and what you wrote below about the 1971 version...


Probably also a bit daring for its suggestion of a homosexual relationship between Lord Darnley, Mary's husband, and David Rizzio, the Italian who was Mary's secretary...

...is not just a suggestion in the new version.

I've seen all of them, and that still seems to be a technical term i don't understand.

If you watch those historical epics I mentioned from the 60's, there is a color palette used that's way more
appealing (and to me, more realistic) than many (and I'd say most) period films done now.  Now they all seem
so dark and dreary, filmed in muted grays, blues and blacks or browns, yellows and golds. The sun never seems
to come out, even once, in these films.

I'm thinking of the trailer I saw for the new Robin Hood film, for one. Imagine if they'd redone Doctor Zhivago
now, a film that's set a great deal in a cold barren Russia, but there's no lack of a color palette in the film. A
couple years ago Brad Pitt was in a WWII film called Fury and the entire film was dark and dreary. All grays and
muted landscapes. Take a look at other war films like Patton or The Battle of the Bulge. The dark and dreary subject
of war does not all take place in dark and dreary climates. These are choices that are made now and these choices
often seem unrealistic to me in their portrayals. (Much as I feel that many serious subject matter films feel unrealistic
when there isn't even one moment of levity in them.)

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 18, 2018, 01:13:25 PM

--The Front Runner

Every time I hear that title I can't help think of the first gay novel I ever read, The Front Runner,
by Patricia Nell Warren.  It was on the NYT best seller list and often talked about as being made
into a movie. Paul Newman and oscar winning screenwriter Jeremy Larner had optioned it at one
point. This is not that movie.

This is about front runner Gary Hart who might have been nominated as the Democratic candidate in
1988 were it not for the events that unfolded during primary season.

I liked the film as a portrayal of events I had witnessed at the time and these types of films give you
a behind the scenes look that is different from news reports where we may have gotten most of our
information while it was happening. Although some reviewers seem to think the film has a direct point
of view, it plays more like watching the events unfold and then you make up your own mind about what
it all means. Because of that, there's a certain aloofness one feels when it's over, not a direct or satisfying
connection to it. But I did like watching it.
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Post by: Flyboy on November 18, 2018, 01:28:38 PM
OMG!!! Lyle!! :o :o :o....that was MY first Gay novel too!! Maybe it was the only one out at the time, who can say....plus, I think one of my first Gay mainstream films was the one with Harry Hamlin. Making Love.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 18, 2018, 01:31:20 PM
Thanks, Lyle.

I Just mean that it reflects the current atmosphere. Two strong women and their shared plight of being held hostage by "conniving, belittling, power-hungry men determined to usurp their authority."

I don't think that's an accurate description of Elizabeth I. Sure, "power-hungry men" tried to usurp her authority, but she certainly wasn't held hostage by them. She was her father's daughter.

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There's casting reminding one that people of color have always been part of society, even during the Renaissance and Age of Discovery.

That's something I must reserve judgment on until or if I see the film. I say nothing about this movie, but sometimes I feel casting of people of color in some historical fictions/dramas is more PC than historically accurate.

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and what you wrote below about the 1971 version...

...is not just a suggestion in the new version.

Times change.  ;D

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If you watch those historical epics I mentioned from the 60's, there is a color palette used that's way more
appealing (and to me, more realistic) than many (and I'd say most) period films done now.

Got it. Thanks!
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Post by: brian on November 18, 2018, 02:20:36 PM
OMG!!! Lyle!! :o :o :o....that was MY first Gay novel too!! Maybe it was the only one out at the time, who can say....plus, I think one of my first Gay mainstream films was the one with Harry Hamlin. Making Love.
LOL
I am glad you pointed out as if I saw 'Front Runner' on the list at my movie house, I would have been interested. Hopefully a read of the synopsis would have shown me that it was of no interest. It is not on my bookshelf so I do not know how I obtained it at the time. However I do have 'Making Love' in the cupboard. However being in VHS format, it would be a bit complicated (dragging out players etc) to watch again.
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Post by: tfferg on November 18, 2018, 03:01:11 PM

...is not just a suggestion in the new version.

If you watch those historical epics I mentioned from the 60's, there is a color palette used that's way more
appealing (and to me, more realistic) than many (and I'd say most) period films done now.  Now they all seem
so dark and dreary, filmed in muted grays, blues and blacks or browns, yellows and golds. The sun never seems
to come out, even once, in these films.

I'm thinking of the trailer I saw for the new Robin Hood film, for one. Imagine if they'd redone Doctor Zhivago
now, a film that's set a great deal in a cold barren Russia, but there's no lack of a color palette in the film. A
couple years ago Brad Pitt was in a WWII film called Fury and the entire film was dark and dreary. All grays and
muted landscapes. Take a look at other war films like Patton or The Battle of the Bulge. The dark and dreary subject
of war does not all take place in dark and dreary climates. These are choices that are made now and these choices
often seem unrealistic to me in their portrayals. (Much as I feel that many serious subject matter films feel unrealistic
when there isn't even one moment of levity in them.)

Is it part of a wider fashion for gray everywhere?  Gray seems to have become a predominant colour for clothes, even though it drains the colour and liveliness from people's complexions, the roads are full of gray cars, more and more houses are painted gray and new buildings are constructed of gray bricks and gray concrete slabs. Many domestic interiors are painted gray, as are too  many waiting rooms in clinics and offices. Many uniforms worn by staff in businesses and shops are gray. Are designers suffering from an epidemic of depression? The effect is certainly depressing. It's loathesome.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 18, 2018, 03:26:52 PM
I don't think that's an accurate description of Elizabeth I. Sure, "power-hungry men" tried to usurp her authority, but she certainly wasn't held hostage by them. She was her father's daughter.

This version doesn't portray Elizabeth in quite the same way as, say, Jackson or Blanchett did.

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 18, 2018, 04:03:58 PM
Is it part of a wider fashion for gray everywhere?

You are right in your assessment. I think in film it has more to do with computer technology. Films used to be shot and
most of what you saw was what they captured on film. Now they can film anything and play with it in the computer, thereby
making a lot of movies look unreal to me.  It used to be if you saw a sky and there were clouds in it, and they captured some
beautiful looking sunset, that was really fulfilling to watch. If it was snowing it might not have been actual snow, but it was
something actually flying in the air. There was a scene in Mary Queen of Scots with snow flakes and I feel it was computer
generated.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 18, 2018, 04:23:57 PM
This version doesn't portray Elizabeth in quite the same way as, say, Jackson or Blanchett did.

If it portrays her as weak and dominated by men, it's dead wrong. Glenda Jackson's performance--or, maybe I should say the way Jackson's part was written--is dead-on accurate, or as accurate as a dramatization can be, compared to everything I've read about the historical Elizabeth I, and I've read a lot about the historical Elizabeth I. (The same goes for Jackson's role in Elizabeth R.)

I'm not as familiar with the historical Mary Stuart, but as far as I have read, she was no prize. Yet everyone from Goethe (I think it was Goethe) onward wants to make her a tragic heroine.

Just sayin'.
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Post by: brian on November 18, 2018, 05:16:42 PM
Totally agree. I spent a year at university studying Reformation history, half spent on Continental Europe and half on UK, reading the original documents.  Elizabeth 1 was a very strong woman determined that no man should take advantage of her, probably why she never married and even why she finally signed Mary Stuart's death warrant. She was determined no-one should see any sign of weakness in her.
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Post by: B.W. on November 18, 2018, 07:11:29 PM
I loved Cate Blanchett's performance as Queen Elizabeth I (Elizabeth Tudor) of England in Focus Features' film "Elizabeth" (1998).  Her performance in "Elizabeth: The Golden Age" (2007) was good too, but that film wasn't as good as the first movie.  Elizabeth I was a strong female ruler.  I'd love to see a major theatrical film about the rivalry between her and her older half-sister Queen Mary I (Mary Tudor/"Bloody Mary") of England.  Both sisters seemed to be pretty much uncompromising in their convictions and seemed to be pretty stubborn. Well, it isn't surprising, I mean look at who their father was.
 
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Post by: B.W. on November 18, 2018, 07:26:26 PM
I certainly don't think that theatrical films today that are based on a historic person, place or event have that kind of quality that such films made in previous decades had.  However, I think that every film is a product of the time period in which it was made.  Someone had mentioned David Leans' film "Doctor Zhivago" (1965).  I like it, but it doesn't appeal to me quite as much as other similar films.  Movies have become more technologically advanced, that isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it can easily make a movie become more about style than substance.  Personally, I am one that feels good acting, character development, a good script and directing are even more important than a film's technical aspects.  If the acting, character development, script and directing style aren't as good, then the film merely just becomes eye-candy to me.  That is kind of how I feel about Steven Spielberg's "Jurassic Park" (1993), there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of character development to me, the script is not that good to me, but it isn't that bad either and the acting is fine for what it is, but the performances weren't anything spectacular to me.  As far as the film's special effects go, they were brilliant for their time and still hold up pretty well, I think.  The film is visually stunning to watch and was an appealing piece of technical eye-candy to me.  It just didn't have as much substance as to what I would have liked.  These are just my own opinions.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 19, 2018, 07:46:29 AM
Totally agree. I spent a year at university studying Reformation history, half spent on Continental Europe and half on UK, reading the original documents.  Elizabeth 1 was a very strong woman determined that no man should take advantage of her, probably why she never married and even why she finally signed Mary Stuart's death warrant. She was determined no-one should see any sign of weakness in her.

My area of concentration as both an undergraduate and a graduate history student was Colonial America, but the obvious background for European colonization of North America was "Ren & Ref" (Renaissance and Reformation), with a lot of reading of Tudor period history.

To this day books on Tudor history remain among my favorite for pleasure reading.

I'd love to see a major theatrical film about the rivalry between her and her older half-sister Queen Mary I (Mary Tudor/"Bloody Mary").  Both sisters seemed to be pretty much uncompromising in their convictions and seemed to be pretty stubborn. Well, it isn't surprising, I mean look at who their father was.

That would make for a very interesting film!

To anyone who might be interested, I highly recommend Elizabeth: The Struggle for the Throne, by David Starkey. It's the best book on Elizabeth I, and what she was up to during Mary's reign, that I have ever read.

However, I think that every film is a product of the time period in which it was made.

I guess thus has it ever been all the way back to Birth of a Nation.
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Post by: Flyboy on November 19, 2018, 09:05:55 AM
I watched The 10 Year Plan last night on Netflix. Simple escape film. I liked it, even though there wasn't any in depth drama!  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 19, 2018, 10:42:53 AM

I think the talk of the way Elizabeth I is portrayed in the current film is getting off the rails, which means
I may have mislead some of you in some way that I'm not aware of, so I feel you should just see the film
and judge for yourself. So far, 5 people in my circle have seen it and all really liked it, including one with
Scottish ancestry who knows all about this history.


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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 19, 2018, 10:43:09 AM
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I certainly don't think that theatrical films today that are based on a historic person, place or event have that kind of quality that such films made in previous decades had.

Whenever anyone says "they don't make __________ like they used to" I have to disagree. There are just as many good films now about "historic persons, places and events"  as there were in the past. Just as many that are not, too, it's just that from the past the fine ones get remembered and the bad ones don't.

For example, just since 2010 we've had these good and great films: The Fighter, The King's Speech, The Social Network, 127 Hours, Moneyball, Argo, Lincoln, Zero Dark Thirty, Captain Phillips, Dallas Buyers Club, Philomena, The Wolf of Wall Street, American Sniper, The Imitation Game, Pride, The Theory of Everything, Selma, The Big Short, Bridge of Spies, The Revenant, Spotlight, Hacksaw Ridge, Patriot's Day, Hidden Figures, Lion, Darkest Hour, The Post and Dunkirk, and I'm not saying this is all inclusive.
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Post by: B.W. on November 19, 2018, 06:47:28 PM
My area of concentration as both an undergraduate and a graduate history student was Colonial America, but the obvious background for European colonization of North America was "Ren & Ref" (Renaissance and Reformation), with a lot of reading of Tudor period history.

To this day books on Tudor history remain among my favorite for pleasure reading.

That would make for a very interesting film!

To anyone who might be interested, I highly recommend Elizabeth: The Struggle for the Throne, by David Starkey. It's the best book on Elizabeth I, and what she was up to during Mary's reign, that I have ever read.

I guess thus has it ever been all the way back to Birth of a Nation.


Yeah, "The Birth of a Nation" (1915), a highly controversial and unashamedly racist propoganda movie, but it did have an overwhelmingly influence on the filmmaking industry.  I didn't see this film until I was much older, but heard about it growing up.  I found it offensive,  a laughingly absurd, but I recognized the film's legacy on the movie industry.  As for the colonization of America, I certainly don't think of a brave explorer whenever I hear the famed name of "Christopher Columbus" being uttered.  I think of the oppression and genocide that countless individual Native persons had to experience.  You had whole races of people being forced to work against their will as slaves.  So many institutions in America were pretty much the result of slave labor .  The country has a very dark and dreary past, yet the country has a lot of potential too.  I guess that is how it is in every country around the world as well.  Every country has a history that is filled with dark and positive events that helped shape it.  It makes the world a very complex and interesting place.
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Post by: B.W. on November 19, 2018, 07:01:20 PM
Whenever anyone says "they don't make __________ like they used to" I have to disagree. There are just as many good films now about "historic persons, places and events"  as there were in the past. Just as many that are not, too, it's just that from the past the fine ones get remembered and the bad ones don't.

For example, just since 2010 we've had these good and great films: The Fighter, The King's Speech, The Social Network, 127 Hours, Moneyball, Argo, Lincoln, Zero Dark Thirty, Captain Phillips, Dallas Buyers Club, Philomena, The Wolf of Wall Street, American Sniper, The Imitation Game, Pride, The Theory of Everything, Selma, The Big Short, Bridge of Spies, The Revenant, Spotlight, Hacksaw Ridge, Patriot's Day, Hidden Figures, Lion, Darkest Hour, The Post and Dunkirk, and I'm not saying this is all inclusive.


Oh, I wouldn't say that there haven't been any good films about historical places, persons and events that have been released over the past few years.  I thought that Universal Pictures' "Spotlight" (2015) and Paramount Pictures' "Selma" (2014) were both very good.  I guess I just prefer some of the older films.  I liked "American Sniper" (2014), I didn't read the biographical book that it based on, but from what I heard about the man who wrote it, Chris Kyle sounded like a person who had a thirst for bloodshed and was known to be a notorious liar.  It seems like the film glossed over those aspects of his personality.  I can understand Clint Eastwood and Bradley Cooper wanted to humanize him a bit more, but if the real Chris Kyle was really the way I've heard him described, I feel that the film was a bit dishonest in its portrayal of him as an
"American hero".  I do think it is very brave and heroic of people who fight in war for causes they believe in, but I imagine most people that fight in armed combat don't feel a sense of enjoyment when killing other people.  I think most have some amount of compassion for the people that they have killed. I thought "American Sniper" was a well-made movie, I just felt it was a rather dishonest portrayal of the real man who died tragically and so young, a young man who was brave enough to risk his life that also seemed to have some very bad intentions.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 20, 2018, 02:40:35 PM
Sunday evening I watched part of Plymouth Adventure (1952). I'd seen it before, so I didn't watch the entire film.

It's kind of an odd picture. Rather than being based directly on history, it's based on a novel about the voyage of the Pilgrims on the Mayflower (which, no doubt, is why TCM chose to air it Sunday evening).

The plot revolves around a love affair between Christopher Jones, the master (captain) of the Mayflower, and Dorothy Bradford, wife of William Bradford. Captain Jones is played by Spencer Tracey, who doesn't do badly as a gruff, cranky, middle-aged sea captain. Gene Tierney is Mrs. Bradford, the leading lady, and I agree with a reviewer at IMDb who wrote that Tracey and Tierney had absolutely no chemistry. I guess they needed a "name" for a leading lady.

Van Johnson as John Alden was just ... weird. (In the movie Alden is called a carpenter, probably because people know what a carpenter does, but not so much what a cooper [barrel maker] does, and that's what Alden was, a cooper.) Lloyd Bridges was Robert Coppin, the First Mate of the Mayflower.

Since it's a matter of historical fact, I won't consider it a spoiler to say that once the Mayflower arrived in New England, Dorothy Bradford drowned. Some writers have wanted to speculate that her death was an accident and not suicide, but, c'mon, really? She went overboard while the Mayflower was riding peacefully at anchor in the shelter of what is now Provincetown Harbor. The movie makes her death a suicide, but Tierney and Tracey have so little chemistry that the first time I saw this film I didn't realize the suicide was supposed to be because she was caught between duty to her husband and love for Captain Jones. I just thought she did it because the captain lusted after her (she was a Puritan, after all).

Weird coincidence: Tierney suffered from mental illness and at least once really did nearly commit suicide.

The film won the Oscar for Special Effects, the storms at sea, and I think the effects are still pretty impressive, considering this was decades before CGI, back when Hollywood really could do magic. After the storms, I think the best thing about this movie is the Mayflower herself. The ship is pretty accurate, and the scenes of her setting sail are also pretty impressive.
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Post by: oilgun on November 20, 2018, 06:48:42 PM
OMG!!! Lyle!! :o :o :o....that was MY first Gay novel too!! Maybe it was the only one out at the time, who can say....plus, I think one of my first Gay mainstream films was the one with Harry Hamlin. Making Love.
Patricia Nell Warren's The Front Runner actually changed my life. It gave me the courage to accept myself and come out.

As for all the historical films featuring royalty being mentioned, the Queen I'm most looking forward to is Anne in The Favourite. I'd include the film's poster but I can't access photobucket for some reason. Olivia Coleman is apparently assured a best actress oscar nom. I hear the film isn't exactly historically accurate though.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_favourite_2018
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 21, 2018, 10:35:32 AM

Gil, nice to hear about your experience with The Front Runner novel. I can totally see that!

Also, I have heard a lot about The Favourite so far.

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 21, 2018, 10:37:35 AM
Sunday evening I watched part of Plymouth Adventure (1952).

I'd always wanted this to be a movie I'd watch every Thanksgiving time, but you're right, it is not that good.

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Post by: gattaca on November 21, 2018, 03:55:03 PM
Patricia Nell Warren's The Front Runner is one of first gay novels I read.  It's hard to believe the actually used that title given the famous nature of of that novel.  V.
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Post by: Gazapete on November 24, 2018, 11:16:51 AM
I went with my girl to watch The Crimes Of Grindelwald... In 3D... With popcorn and nachos... And discovered that I am too old for that kind of cinema experience!  :laugh: The movie is ok, entertaining, fun, a bit darker as the other Harry Potter universe stories, but it's not, well, it will become no classic, let's leave it at that. There is a really brief gay moment in Dumbledore's memories, but if you blink you miss it, let's see what JK Rowling makes of this storyline in the next one.
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Post by: BlueAmber63 on November 25, 2018, 03:46:31 PM
Had lovely relaxing Sunday. Watched the movie "Rebecca" 1940 starring Laurence Olivier
as Max De Winter and Joan Fontaine as the new young Mrs De Winter  and the deliciously wicked Judith Anderson as Mrs Danvers the housekeeper who could curdle milk with just
one look !!!!It's a real good old fashioned Sunday afternoon movie.An oldie...but a goodie !!

One thing I did notice....you never know the name of the new "Mrs De Winter".
No one ever says her name.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 25, 2018, 04:04:55 PM
Had lovely relaxing Sunday. Watched the movie "Rebecca" 1940 starring Laurence Olivier
as Max De Winter and Joan Fontaine as the new young Mrs De Winter  and the deliciously wicked Judith Anderson as Mrs Danvers the housekeeper who could curdle milk with just
one look !!!!It's a real good old fashioned Sunday afternoon movie.An oldie...but a goodie !!

One thing I did notice....you never know the name of the new "Mrs De Winter".
No one ever says her name.

Love that film!

Yup, we never learn the name of the new Mrs. De Winter.

Funny little story. A long, long time ago, I was discussing this film with a friend, and she quoted the line as, "Last night I dreamed I went to Mandelay."

My friend was from Ohio. I gently told her that was "Manderly" pronounced with a British accent.

Another friend likes to quote the line, "You'd better go, Mrs. Van Hopper. You'll miss your train."  ;D
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Post by: oilgun on November 25, 2018, 07:40:05 PM
(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w197/oilgun/green-book-01_zpse0cjp4ys.jpg)

The Green Book - with Viggo Mortensen, Mahershala Ali and Linda Cardellini

I really enjoyed this film. I'm a big Viggo fan and he didn't disappoint. A real crowd pleaser.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 26, 2018, 04:59:57 PM
^^^

Totally agree, Gil!
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Post by: gattaca on November 27, 2018, 03:10:19 AM
I have not seen the film but thought immediately of "Driving Mrs. Daisy" with the racial twist. WOW and launched right during "Oscar-bait" season!  The only review I've let myself read,  b/c I did not want to just "assume," is from Ebert's site.  No spoilers below in the quote.  Looks like a must see based on your comments here and that review.

There are spoilers in the review so mind carefully if you jump -> https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/green-book-2018

"But damned if it doesn’t work beautifully for nearly the entirety of its two hour-plus running time. “Green Book” is the kind of old-fashioned film making big studios just don’t offer anymore. It’s glossy and zippy, gliding along the surface of deeply emotional, complex issues while dipping down into them just enough to give us a taste of some actual substance."

It sits at 82% on Rotten today.  That surprises me given "things they way they are..."   V.

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Post by: oilgun on November 27, 2018, 05:28:03 PM
^^^

Totally agree, Gil!

One thing that really annoyed me, however, is the way Viggo's character eats like a pig. Spitting food on the car seat next to him while eating greasy fried chicken, folding a large pizza in half to take a bite, in bed, no less. I mean who eats like that? It drove me nuts and took me out of the story.

A lot of American films seem to have gross scenes involving food. Julie's husband in Julie and Julia also had disgusting table manners. My friend and I couldn't help but comment every time we saw him literally slobbering over a meal. Even in A Star is Born there is a scene where Bradley inexplicably shoves a bagel with cream cheese in Lady Ga Ga's face!

Not to mention the "classic" food fight scenes over the years. I always found them more offensive than funny. Even Fried Green Tomatoes had one. Couldn't they just have a lesbian lovemaking scene instead?  :)
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Post by: Flyboy on November 27, 2018, 05:33:20 PM
Gil!! I think that's just the way American Films have gone.....gross eating or food scenes!! I don't care for them either, and yes, it does TAKE YOU OUT of the Film....never been a fan of those scenes....I don't even think it's a comment on the eating habits of most Americans, so not sure WHY so many films have those scenes....... :o :o :o
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Post by: oilgun on November 27, 2018, 05:37:26 PM
Had lovely relaxing Sunday. Watched the movie "Rebecca" 1940 starring Laurence Olivier
as Max De Winter and Joan Fontaine as the new young Mrs De Winter  and the deliciously wicked Judith Anderson as Mrs Danvers the housekeeper who could curdle milk with just
one look !!!!It's a real good old fashioned Sunday afternoon movie.An oldie...but a goodie !!

One thing I did notice....you never know the name of the new "Mrs De Winter".
No one ever says her name.

Not sure if it's been mentioned but they are remaking it with Armie Hammer and Lily James:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/nov/15/lily-james-armie-hammer-star-rebecca-remake

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 28, 2018, 08:27:00 AM
Not sure if it's been mentioned but they are remaking it with Armie Hammer and Lily James:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/nov/15/lily-james-armie-hammer-star-rebecca-remake

Another Classic that has absolutely no reason to be remade. Sorry, folks, but in my opinion, Armie Hammer is no Laurence Olivier.

I will admit out of idle curiosity I'd like to know who they've cast to play Mrs. Danvers, if, indeed, the role has been cast.

Mrs. Danvers is the one who is really obsessed with Rebecca, even more so than Maxim de Winter.
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Post by: Gazapete on November 28, 2018, 09:30:06 AM
I agree with you, Jeff. Rebecca is just perfect the way it is, is there really such a lack of new ideas for movies?
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on November 28, 2018, 12:58:38 PM
I agree with you, Jeff. Rebecca is just perfect the way it is, is there really such a lack of new ideas for movies?

And Rebecca has been remade twice already as a TV miniseries:

1979: With Jeremy Brett as Maxim (I think this ran on Masterpiece Theatre here in the U.S. In any case, I remember seeing it.)

1997: With Diana Rigg as Mrs. Danvers (I wish I'd seen that!)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 28, 2018, 05:11:10 PM
I have not seen the film but thought immediately of "Driving Mrs. Daisy" with the racial twist. WOW and launched right during "Oscar-bait" season!  The only review I've let myself read,  b/c I did not want to just "assume," is from Ebert's site.  No spoilers below in the quote.  Looks like a must see based on your comments here and that review.

There are spoilers in the review so mind carefully if you jump -> https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/green-book-2018

"But damned if it doesn’t work beautifully for nearly the entirety of its two hour-plus running time. “Green Book” is the kind of old-fashioned film making big studios just don’t offer anymore. It’s glossy and zippy, gliding along the surface of deeply emotional, complex issues while dipping down into them just enough to give us a taste of some actual substance."

It sits at 82% on Rotten today.  That surprises me given "things the way they are..."   V.

I'm not sure how you meant that, Vincent. What surprises you about the score?

I feel it should be higher, but I think some critics that I've read want their racism in movies to be more like 12 Years a Slave, so I liked the way the reviewer you quoted puts it:  "It’s glossy and zippy, gliding along the surface of deeply emotional, complex issues while dipping down into them just enough to give us a taste of some actual substance."

Not every movie has to have a zero tolerance for something that is unacceptable to modern audiences. People are more apt to have "a moment of realization" in a movie like this one they might not ordinarily have if the film is beating them over the head with it's message. It's based on a true story of these two guys becoming life long friends, after all.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 28, 2018, 05:12:59 PM
One thing that really annoyed me, however, is the way Viggo's character eats like a pig.


The Viggo character's real life son had a hand in the screenplay. Maybe that's wherte the food stuff comes from?

(But the director is known for "There's Something About Mary...so...?)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 28, 2018, 05:15:00 PM
Sorry, folks, but in my opinion, Armie Hammer is no Laurence Olivier.

Thank goodness!

I know my opinion isn't a prevailing one, but I often think Laurence Olivier's performances are
distant, cold and boring.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 28, 2018, 05:18:40 PM
--Widows

This is a heist movie with a few good scenes and too much character stuff going on when you're
more interested in the heist. It's direct by Steve McQueen of 12 Years a Slave.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on November 28, 2018, 05:28:20 PM

--If Beale Street Could Talk

This is Barry Jenkins directorial follow up to Moonlight. It's based on a very short novel by James Baldwin.

I found the same problem with this movie as I did with Moonlight. Movies are a series of images with dialogue
that provide you information to move on to the next scene. In both of the films it always feels to me that Jenkins
is teasing us in each scene...he isn't giving us information. He's stalling. The sense of momentum or at least forward
movement in both films is always lacking in my opinion, which makes one pay less attention and start wandering.
There's a beautiful performance by Regina King somewhere in this film, but dang if I could put it together the way it's
directed.

I was not a fan of Moonlight at all. And yet, I've seen Barry Jenkins in person and he's the most personable and
energetic person who can schmooze with the best of them. I wish he could translate that to his films which seem
a polar opposite. His knowledge and enthusiasm for things is broad and entertaining. Not his films.

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Post by: gattaca on November 29, 2018, 03:48:22 PM
I'm not sure how you meant that, Vincent. What surprises you about the score?
Just given everything swirling since the 2016 debacle.  Having such a film presenting now smacks of more so-called  "Hollywood Elitism."  There are plenty of closed-minded *@(@* who will never see this film and there are plenty who will disparage on rotten just to do so. I have the same fear coming about "On the Basis of Sex" all for similar reasons, especially with the latest Justice being confirmed - nothing's changed.  V.
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Post by: Flyboy on December 03, 2018, 10:00:30 AM
I tried to see Green Book yesterday, but it must be in limited release or something. It's only showing at one theater here and it was SOLD OUT for the whole day and late evening too!  :o

It was showing in what they call the 'screening room' theater.......may be that's a smaller venue? Don't know......at any rate, I might try seeing it this week sometime while MOST filmgoers are at WORK!  ;D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 03, 2018, 02:51:28 PM

--Vice

This is a film about Dick Cheney, perfectly delineated by Christian Bale. Also a stand-out were Amy Adams as
his wife Lynne, and Sam Rockwell as George W. Bush. Less successful were Steve Carrell as Donald Rumsfeld
and Tyler Perry as Colin Powell.

The film looks at Cheney's career in politics through the eye of writer/director Adam McKay, who wrote and directed
The Big SHort a couple years ago, the film about the 2008 financial collapse and how it occurred. Vice is done in much
the same way with a lot of humor and directorial gymnastics, keeping the film moving and the pace hectic.

I thought it was really good.  I wouldn't recommend it to everyone, though. One has to be in a mood of sorts to relive
the politics and political implications of Dick Cheney and his co-horts of the recent past, which frankly I wasn't but I'd
have liked it more if I were. Also, if one isn't interested in politics so much, you might not be interested in the film, but
Bale's performance is really fine. Adam McKay does his best to keep it all lively, entertaining and even laugh out loud.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 03, 2018, 02:59:00 PM

--The Man Who Invented Christmas

The "man" is Charles Dickens and the story is about his coming to write A Christmas Carol. I was
quite disappointed in it. The film manages to make Downtown Abbey's handsome Dan Steven's look
downright odd and the story seems contrived. I mean, we know he DID write this, so all the mechanics
of how it came to be don't really seem worth all the trouble of going through. Plus I get taken out of period
pieces when there's obvious CGI effects and poorly computerized snow falling. The film was released a year ago.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 03, 2018, 03:03:21 PM

--Geostorm

Earth's weather is being stabilized by manned satellite stations flying over the earth, but a power hungry
politician starts sabotaging them to gain power. This is strictly sci-fi schlock, but Gerard Butler was into it
full speed ahead and I just happened to be in the mood for something more or less mindless like this.
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Post by: oilgun on December 03, 2018, 05:46:21 PM
--The Man Who Invented Christmas

The "man" is Charles Dickens and the story is about his coming to write A Christmas Carol. I was
quite disappointed in it. The film manages to make Downtown Abbey's handsome Dan Steven's look
downright odd and the story seems contrived. I mean, we know he DID write this, so all the mechanics
of how it came to be don't really seem worth all the trouble of going through. Plus I get taken out of period
pieces when there's obvious CGI effects and poorly computerized snow falling. The film was released a year ago.

I haven't seen this film but I love Dan Stevens. Did you see him in The Guest , a thriller from 2014 that actually has a rating of 91% on RT (!). He plays a smouldering psychopath that insinuates himself into a grieving family by   posing has a close friend of the son they lost in Iraq. I checked out some of the scenes on youtube and it looks really good!

(http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w197/oilgun/the-guest-01_zpsor6jz2ez.jpg)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 04, 2018, 12:48:36 PM

I have not seen that, nor heard of it, Oilgun, but I like the poster!
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 04, 2018, 01:02:21 PM

--Ben is Back

This film stars Julia Roberts, Lucas Hedges (Boy Erased) and Courtney B. Vance. It was directed by
Lucas' father, Peter Hedges.

I am not a fan of movies about people who get hooked on drugs, or are hooked on drugs, or are trying
to recover from being on drugs. (Like Beautiful Boy.) Not even comedies about being stoned or whatever.
Having said that, this film has very good performances from Roberts and Hedges. The film is about the son
who unexpectedly shows up a day or two before Christmas from his drug rehabilitation program. As you might
imagine, family drama and complications ensue.  How it plays out is quite interesting and at times exciting. But
I must warn you...you should be in the mood for it. I was not quite in the mood for it, really. I was invited to a
screening of it and took advantage of that, but I'd have much rather seen an action movie or some nice lighthearted
fare than this. The fact that this story is set at Christmas gives it an extra dose of sadness that one might not be quite
interested in right now. Still, though I am not a fan of these kinds of films, it was one that I found worthwhile.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 04, 2018, 02:16:24 PM

A first look at what might get award attention this year:


NATIONAL BOARD OF REVIEW ANNOUNCES 2018 AWARD WINNERS
Below is a full list of the 2018 award recipients, announced by the National Board of Review:

Best Film: GREEN BOOK
Best Director: Bradley Cooper, A STAR IS BORN
Best Actor: Viggo Mortensen, GREEN BOOK
Best Actress: Lady Gaga, A STAR IS BORN
Best Supporting Actor: Sam Elliott, A STAR IS BORN
Best Supporting Actress: Regina King, IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK
Best Original Screenplay: Paul Schrader, FIRST REFORMED
Best Adapted Screenplay: Barry Jenkins, IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK
Best Animated Feature: INCREDIBLES 2
Breakthrough Performance: Thomasin McKenzie, LEAVE NO TRACE
Best Directorial Debut: Bo Burnham, EIGHTH GRADE
Best Foreign Language Film: COLD WAR
Best Documentary: RBG
Best Ensemble: CRAZY RICH ASIANS
William K. Everson Film History Award: THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WIND
NBR Freedom of Expression Award: 22 JULY
NBR Freedom of Expression Award: ON HER SHOULDERS

Top Films (in alphabetical order)
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Black Panther
Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Eighth Grade
First Reformed
If Beale Street Could Talk
Mary Poppins Returns
A Quiet Place
Roma
A Star Is Born

Top 5 Foreign Language Films (in alphabetical order)
Burning
Custody
The Guilty
Happy as Lazzaro
Shoplifters

Top 5 Documentaries (in alphabetical order)
Crime + Punishment
Free Solo
Minding the Gap
Three Identical Strangers
Won’t You Be My Neighbor?

Top 10 Independent Films (in alphabetical order)
Lean on Pete
Leave No Trace
Mid90s
The Old Man & the Gun
The Rider
Searching
Sorry to Bother You
We the Animals
You Were Never Really Here


New York Film Critics Circle

The New York Critics went first last week and went heavily for Roma with
picture, director and cinematography.

UGH!

Their acting awards winners are all from very independent films, most of which I hadn't even heard of.


The AFI, American Film Institute, put out their list of the Best American Films of the Year today:

The AFI’s 10 movies of the year

“BlacKkKlansman”
“Black Panther”
“Eighth Grade”
“If Beale Street Could Talk”
“The Favourite”
“First Reformed”
“Green Book”
“Mary Poppins Returns”
“A Quiet Place”
“A Star Is Born”
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 04, 2018, 02:21:46 PM

The Golden Globe nominations will be announced on Thursday and the SAG nominations are next Wednesday.

Personally, I think the rush to be the first to put out their films of the year lists, means they
have not had a chance to see all of them, though they insist that they do. The critics used to
do it in January, now they start in November! Some films aren't even finished until a week before
release date. Slow down!

Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: gattaca on December 05, 2018, 07:24:57 AM
--Vice

This is a film about Dick Cheney, perfectly delineated by Christian Bale. Also a stand-out were Amy Adams as
his wife Lynne, and Sam Rockwell as George W. Bush. Less successful were Steve Carrell as Donald Rumsfeld
and Tyler Perry as Colin Powell.

.... but Bale's performance is really fine. Adam McKay does his best to keep it all lively, entertaining and even laugh out loud.
I usually trust your recommendations Lyle.. so I might give this a go even though I despise the man.... but anything Bale does has to get a free pass.  V.
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Post by: Gazapete on December 05, 2018, 08:51:42 AM
Lyle, you must be your neighbourhood cinema best client! I am jealous, I would love to be able to go to the cinema so often as you do.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 05, 2018, 01:15:38 PM
I often think Laurence Olivier's performances are
distant, cold and boring.

IMO perfectly appropriate for Maxim de Winter, at least as the story begins.

I have never really understood what the second Mrs. de Winter sees in him.  ;D  Nor why he suddenly warms up to her. Perhaps it's just the nature of the genre.

The best part of Rebecca is Judith Anderson as Mrs. Danvers. Of course George Sanders does his usual slimy thing, but he's still fun to watch (see: All About Eve).

I know my opinion of Armie Hammer isn't the prevailing one here. He's fair enough, but in the end I can take him or leave him alone. He's too warm and nice for Maxim de Winter--and I don't mean that in a snarky way. I think he really is too nice a person for Maxim de Winter. I just can't see him convincingly playing "aloof," which the character seems to demand. At least, the two other Maxims I've seen (Olivier and Brett) have been that way, so I presume that's the way du Maurier wrote the character.

But what do you think of remaking Rebecca with anybody?
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 05, 2018, 01:29:58 PM

I do like the film Rebecca!

As for remakes...I have seen so many movies of characters like Robin Hood and remakes of things that I feel no
need to revisit the same stories over and over again, unless I feel there's a good reason.

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 05, 2018, 01:31:37 PM
Lyle, you must be your neighbourhood cinema best client! I am jealous, I would love to be able to go to the cinema so often as you do.

Heh!

Some films I've reviewed are from NetFlix rentals!

I also see a lot of films for free because I have a few friends who invite me to their SAG and/or BAFTA screening!

Also, I got a lot of AMC movie passes for gifts!

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 05, 2018, 01:34:36 PM

--Operation Finale

This is a film released earlier this year starring Oscar Isaac, Ben Kingsley and Nick Kroll in a dramatic role.
It's about the discovery and hunt for Nazi fugitive Adolf Eichmann in Argentina around 1960. This is something
I didn't know much about and I thought the film was really quite good.


 
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 05, 2018, 02:14:39 PM
I was at my father's over the weekend, and I watched two movies on videotape (  :o  ), The Music Man (1962) and Last of the Dogmen (1995) (how's that for two very different movies?  :D  ).

The tape of The Music Man begins with a short and fun documentary, hosted by Shirley Jones, about the making of the movie. I guess a younger--but not much younger--generation knows Robert Preston best from Victor/Victoria, and I like him in that film, but for me the role of his long career was Professor Harold Hill. And considering the career that Ron Howard has gone on to have, it's lots of fun to see him as Shirley Jones' little brother.  :)  The documentary shows how much painstaking work went into making the animated opening titles in the days way before CGI.

The Music Man is the first movie I can remember being taken to see. I was four the year it was released.

Last of the Dogmen is an unpretentious entertainment that doesn't try to be anything more than it is. It's a modern-day Western, and for me it's chief attractions are Tom Berenger in the lead, and the scenery. It was filmed in the same region of Alberta as Brokeback Mountain, only ten years earlier. In LOTD, Alberta stands in for Montana instead of for Wyoming. Barbara Hershey is the female lead.  The title comes from the name of a Warrior Society among the Cheyenne Indians.
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Post by: killersmom on December 06, 2018, 09:42:21 PM
Last of the Dogmen is an unpretentious entertainment that doesn't try to be anything more than it is. It's a modern-day Western, and for me it's chief attractions are Tom Berenger in the lead, and the scenery. It was filmed in the same region of Alberta as Brokeback Mountain, only ten years earlier. In LOTD, Alberta stands in for Montana instead of for Wyoming. Barbara Hershey is the female lead.  The title comes from the name of a Warrior Society among the Cheyenne Indians.

I agree with everything you say here, Jeff. This has always been a favorite movie of mine. Rick and I used to watch it all the time. I'm glad you reminded me of it.
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Post by: oilgun on December 07, 2018, 02:07:12 AM
Well, that was fast...

Kevin Hart will NOT host the Oscars, tweets half-apology “to the LGBTQ community”

https://www.queerty.com/kevin-hart-will-not-host-oscars-tweets-half-apology-lgbtq-community-20181207?fbclid=IwAR3x5S43GjqWOpQg7uvl-TJZtNIJ1tDhxK4ZSJnoUzUHuYFXdrPoHM1SySg


Who will host the Oscars? Who should host the Oscars?
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 07, 2018, 07:26:35 AM
I agree with everything you say here, Jeff. This has always been a favorite movie of mine. Rick and I used to watch it all the time. I'm glad you reminded me of it.

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who likes Last of the Dogmen. I discovered it accidentally a few year ago when I was visiting my dad and stumbled on it on AMC. I liked it immediately. Of course that was for Tom Berenger and the scenery, but it also resonated with me because I'd read about the Dogmen/Dog Soldiers in Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, so I know who they were.
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Post by: BlueAmber63 on December 07, 2018, 01:07:57 PM
This evening I have watched the movie "The Trap" 1966 staring Oliver Reed and Rita
Tushingham. A lonely French Canadian trapper takes a wife. Orphaned....mute and
a very reluctant Tushingham !

I always think that Oliver Reed...for all his faults and problems ....was a very under rated
actor. In this movie he was so believable and his character came across so strong...you could almost smell him ! The skins he wore and  the lack of bathing !!
You could feel the reluctance and disgust from Rita's character each time he "approached" her ! Both were really brilliant. Great movie.

I must confess...I saw this movie the first time... years ago. I was completely overcome
by the beauty of where the movie was shot....British Columbia. I vowed I would some
how get to see it. Years later ...it was BBM that gave me the final push. Wasn't disappointed !
 
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Post by: gattaca on December 08, 2018, 06:34:52 PM
Got to see "Widows" today before this massive storm about to hit our area.  "Widows" starts out flipping between scenes and then leads you through a maze of emotions. It's NOT your typical heist film nor is it your typical film "feel good" robin-hood film. It's a film about dependencies, lies, religion, politics, good, evil, lies, truths, violence, love, cynicism, loyalty, ...  and you really have to pay attention!  If you are expecting a humorous but brain dead Ocean's (next) complete with cute little mini coopers in the mix, you will be disappointed.  You will also be disappointed if you think they wrap up everything in a nice little bow. Yes, they do some reveals at the end but there are details left hanging to reflect on.  My gut says that explains why there is a larger discrepancy between Rotten's Audience score and Reviewer score.  Typically, I follow the critics but it always helps if the general public also concurs.  Viola Davis does a wonderful job carrying the film.  It's obvious it's on her shoulders but the supporting actors also deliver!

If you like a real heist mystery, and it IS very violent, "Widows" may be up your alley. 

SPOILER ON
1) The one critical thing I almost did not notice is at the end.  A simple smile... and that's all I'll say.
2) There is also a scene where more than one person is killed which plays very odd.  It certainly raised my "something's not quite right here... alert"
SPOILERS OFF

All the reviews below contain spoilers...

Ebert's site (4/4) --> https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/widows-2018
Rotten (91/63) --> https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/widows_2018
Guardian --> https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/oct/10/widows-review-steve-mcqueen-viola-davis-london-film-festival
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Post by: Flyboy on December 08, 2018, 06:45:31 PM
Thanks for the post, GP, I am going to view that film when I get time. Looking forward to it!! Sounds GREAT to me, a film where you can't just ZONE OUT!! perfect!!  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Flyboy on December 09, 2018, 10:48:09 AM
This weekend I watched Those People and The Christmas Cronicles on NetFlix........both fairly SAFE films!  :D :D :D

I guess Those People qualifies as Gay Cinema, but not all that dramatic. I would say it was one of those films I just kept watching to see the ending, or how it all wrapped up. It did win a few awards as well. All of the leads were 'easy on the eyes'.... ;D
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 09, 2018, 01:04:48 PM
I watched Holiday Inn on TCM last night. Didn't do much for me.
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Post by: killersmom on December 09, 2018, 02:21:59 PM
I watched Holiday Inn on TCM last night. Didn't do much for me.

I have watched it so many times myself, but still is a holiday tradition for me. Just a lot of nostalgia. When life seemed simpler.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 10, 2018, 12:56:47 PM
If you are expecting a humorous but brain Ocean's (next) complete with cute little mini coopers in the mix, you will be disappointed.

I think the movie you reviewed is exactly like an Ocean's next film with women acting like men do in movies and frankly, I don't want to see women acting
like men do in movies. I'm also getting a bit weary of VIola Davis and her manic intense acting style.

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 10, 2018, 01:01:08 PM

--On the Basis of Sex

This stars Felicity Jones and Armie Hammer and is about Ruth Bader Ginsburg. It starts with her early
years going to college while also dealing with a family and goes through her first real law case where
she found her footing. If you like historical movies this one is quite worthwhile and shows what an
amazing person Ruth, as well as her husband, are. My one complaint is that I often thought Felicity
Jones looked younger, at times, than her teenage daughter.
 
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 10, 2018, 01:04:27 PM

--Stan & Ollie

This is another film about real life people. This film is about the years after Stan Laurel & Oliver Hardy were at their peak and
traveled throughout Britain in the early 1950's in a stage show, while trying to make a movie comeback promised by a London
producer. It's often quite amusing and touching. Both actors, Steve Coogan and John C. Reilly were great and the actresses
playing their wives give entertaining and often comedic performances as well.
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Post by: gattaca on December 10, 2018, 05:15:09 PM
I think the movie you reviewed is exactly like an Ocean's next film with women acting like men do in movies and frankly, I don't want to see women acting like men do in movies. I'm also getting a bit weary of VIola Davis and her manic intense acting style.

Actually, the PoV from the women is refreshing.  Generally, in the Ocean's films, these guys are sort of doing it for the payday... it's not like it is life or death for them.  In Widows, for these women, it is a matter of life or death for them so there's a sense of edginess and urgency unlike the Ocean's films.  There's certainly no humor.  I agree, Davis's performance is super intense but it fits with her position.  I can see where that could get old - sort of like Close or Streep's well honed films.

Spoilers on:
She (and the other widows) are left with nothing their own, after their husbands are killed as part of a heist gone badly wrong. Well or so she thinks.  The film is told from the PoV of the surviving spouses, and what those spouses must do to survive in the rough and corrupt world of Chicago.  That's not something we've been shown before in Oceans.
Spoilers off:
V.
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Post by: gattaca on December 10, 2018, 05:16:42 PM
I think the movie you reviewed is exactly like an Ocean's next film with women acting like men do in movies and frankly, I don't want to see women acting like men do in movies. I'm also getting a bit weary of VIola Davis and her manic intense acting style.  Nope, this film is not for everyone.  But if you do like heist films, the this one might be of interest.  For comparison, I'll probably not see this one again but I'd watch "Hell or High Water" almost anytime it's playing.

Actually, the PoV from the women is refreshing.  Generally, in the Ocean's films, these guys are sort of doing it for the payday... it's not like it is life or death for them.  In Widows, for these women, it is a matter of life or death for them so there's a sense of edginess and urgency unlike the Ocean's films.  There's certainly no humor.  I agree, Davis's performance is super intense but it fits with her position.  I can see where that could get old - sort of like Close or Streep's well honed films.

Spoilers on:
She (and the other widows) are left with nothing their own, after their husbands are killed as part of a heist gone badly wrong. Well or so she thinks.  The film is told from the PoV of the surviving spouses, and what those spouses must do to survive in the rough and corrupt world of Chicago.  That's not something we've been shown before in Oceans.
Spoilers off:
V.
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Post by: Flyboy on December 10, 2018, 09:43:06 PM
I watched The Green Book tonight. What a masterpiece! If the two leads do not get an Oscar nod, something is wrong with the Academy! Both of them gave Tour-de-force performances! Either that, or I'm just so used to half-ass performances!  :o :o :o

And, it has a BBM link too!! Linda Cardellini is great in her supporting role!  ;D ;D ;D

Just a great film, IMHO, you understand!?  ;)
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Post by: B.W. on December 13, 2018, 11:04:58 AM
Awhile back, I watched Ridley Scott's "Thelma and Louise" (1991), it strikes me as being like a and Bonnie and Clyde-type of story between two platonic female friends. Susan Sarandon and Geena Davis both give very good performances.  It has been years since I last saw it.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 13, 2018, 04:42:16 PM

Gattaca, we'll just have to disagree about that movie!
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Post by: Flyboy on December 13, 2018, 07:46:16 PM
Went to see Widows tonight........hmmmmm? No one performance or actor stood out to me in this film. It does have a great cast, but something was missing in the whole film. It was nice to watch Colin Farrell though..... ;D ;D ;D

The film kind of reminded of a TV movie or series......not sure why........
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on December 14, 2018, 04:13:21 PM

I'd like to see Green Book.
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Post by: gattaca on December 15, 2018, 06:49:49 PM
I watched The Green Book tonight. What a masterpiece! If the two leads do not get an Oscar nod, something is wrong with the Academy! Both of them gave Tour-de-force performances! Either that, or I'm just so used to half-ass performances!  :o :o :o

And, it has a BBM link too!! Linda Cardellini is great in her supporting role!  ;D ;D ;D

Just a great film, IMHO, you understand!?  ;)

Ditto.  Watched "The Green Book" this afternoon. We were probably the youngest folks in the showing!  Very pleasing, very convincing film.  Ali was surperb and Viggo really packed on a few lbs.  Viggo's wife's voice bugged me for a while until I realized it was Linda Cardellini!  WOW...   Ali was brilliant to take this role.  Octavia Spenser was Executive Producer.

Yeah, I'd call it a bit of Oscar bait BUT it IS a very good film to remind those willing to watch it how bad things were in the deep(er) south .. and in many ways, still are.  There were laughs and the interplay between the men was well played.  There was one incident which made me squirm a bit but it presents Tony Lip in a way I had not expected. 

Ebert's site -> https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/green-book-2018
Rotten Audiences love it, too bad it's only made $4M.. that's a shocker -> https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/green_book
Turan -> https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-green-book-review-20181115-story.html
Vox -> https://www.vox.com/2018/11/16/18069756/green-book-review-racism-schomburg-segregation
NYT --> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/15/movies/green-book-review.html

The film's not going to please all but for me, it was a great play for the afternoon!  V.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 16, 2018, 05:52:17 PM
Last evening I had my annual viewing of the George C. Scott version of A Christmas Carol. I know people can get into heated debates over which film version of the story is the best, so I will only say this is the one I like the best. Great production values and a superb supporting cast: Roger Rees, David Warner, Frank Finlay, Angela Pleasance, Edward Woodward, Michael Gough, and Susanna York.
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Post by: Flyboy on December 17, 2018, 07:17:17 PM
Watched The Mule today, with Clint Eastwood. I forgot to wear my hearing aid, so I missed a little of the dialogue, but not anything to critical to the storyline. They really underused Bradley Cooper, IMHO, you understand?

Will Clint get an Oscar nod for this film? Hmmmmm? I don't know. Diane Weist was good in her limited role.

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Post by: gattaca on December 17, 2018, 07:31:52 PM
I saw "They Shall Not Grow Old" at 16:00 today.  The theater was full and all shows are now sold out.  The film is interesting.  Nothing like this has been done before and Jackson's approach is unique.  I liked that he gave a prelude to the film and let people know there was 30 mins of how they did this after the credits rolled.

Warning: This film is not for everyone.  It contains some very graphic images of the carnage of war. Those with battle-related PTSD should be strongly cautioned before seeing this film.

There may be spoilers in the general context of what I'm saying below.  Spoilers ON

I found myself admiring the hours invested as well shear computer processing required. Jackson's attention to detail is unmatched and the work amazing.  The stories those boys could tell us, the lessons they could convey are sliding into the void.  It is wonderful that the Brits did all those interviews. Things like that, the scarred battlefields and film archives are the stark reminders of the millions that perished during that war. I enjoyed the film and as Jackson explained, he had to limit his perspective to keep the running time reasonable. He left out a lot. By the end of the film, my mind was a just numb.  The numbers of images. The depth and meaning behind the images.  The joy and agony on the faces of many is starkly contrasted and flashed from the corpses of dead, dying and mutilated humans and animals.

SPOILERS OFF

I'm not sure I'll be able to watch it again.

Rotten 98% -> https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/they_shall_not_grow_old
Ebert's site -> https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/they-shall-not-grow-old-2018
Turan -> https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-they-shall-not-grow-old-review-20181215-story.html

V.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 17, 2018, 08:21:54 PM
I saw "They Shall Not Grow Old" at 16:00 today.

Today I saw a news report about this film, complete with an interview with Peter Jackson. It looked fascinating.
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Post by: brian on December 17, 2018, 09:04:05 PM
I do not remember any prelude by Michael Jackson and am sure there was not 30 minutes afterwards about how the film was made because I remember sitting there watching the many names and countries of birth scroll through.
Two of my uncles served on the Somme and one is buried there. I have visited his grave twice. The first time (2002 with a friend) I was able to return with photos for my mother (his baby sister only 7 when he was killed). The second time 2007 I took my sister less than a year after our mother died. Both times the next day I took a tour of the many cemeteries and battle sites. On both occasions two days later I took a similar tour of the sites around Ypres in Belgium and attended that night the memorial service which is held every night at 9pm at the War memorial in Ypres (the Aussie soldiers called it Wipers  ;D ) I remember wandering the graves at Passchendaele and hearing an American voice saying "So many Aussies, known only unto God" and bursting into tears.
Then in 2016 I went to the Anzac Dawn service at the huge Australian War memorial in Villers-Brettoneux not far from my Uncle's grave. We left Paris by bus at midnight. As a relative of one of the fallen, I was able to place a wreath of flowers (bought in Paris) with a card designed by my sister at the end of the service. The bus took us on a tour, some sites I had not seen previously before returning to Paris. The town of Villers-Bretonneux has streets named after Australian cities and the school classrooms have "N'oublions jamais l'Australie" on the wall.  I have just this year learnt that there is a town Le Quesnoy which has a similar regard for New Zealand, having been liberated by NZ forces near the end of the war, and a War Memorial museum is to be built there. I now hope to visit there one day.
So it was important that I see this film on the day it opened in NZ. It screened here in Dunedin for at least 3 weeks.
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Post by: gattaca on December 18, 2018, 03:49:38 AM
^^^^  They said the pre and post comments by Peter Jackson as well as the extra 30 minutes of how they approached and made the film, which appears after the last credits, is limited to these 4 showings:  2 on 12/27 and 2 on 12/27.  Maybe it will be on the DVD.
Yes, it is very important to some of us and it is making my skin crawl right now just replaying it in my head!  Take Care!  V.
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Post by: oilgun on December 18, 2018, 06:25:28 PM
The Favourite - D: Yorgos Lathimos

A kind of All About Eve in early 18th century England. It's witty as hell and really profane, gorgeous to watch and featuring great performances by the three leads. And a good deal of vomiting. I was pleasantly surprised that bewigged Nicholas Hoult also stars. It's probably the director's most accessible film which is probably the reason I was a bit disappointed. My favourite of his is still Dogtooth, which blew me away it was so bizarre.

http://www.reelviews.net/reelviews/favourite-the


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Post by: brian on December 18, 2018, 07:15:51 PM
The Favourite - D: Yorgos Lathimos

A kind of All About Eve in early 18th century England. It's witty as hell and really profane, gorgeous to watch and featuring great performances by the three leads. And a good deal of vomiting. I was pleasantly surprised that bewigged Nicholas Hoult also stars. It's probably the director's most accessible film which is probably the reason I was a bit disappointed. My favourite of his is still Dogtooth, which blew me away it was so bizarre.
I have seen the shorts twice and it is on my list but does not start here until Boxing Day (along with The Happy Prince which is a definite for me) Not sure the vomiting appeals to me.  :( 
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 19, 2018, 12:34:13 AM

--Burlesque

I'd never seen this 2010 film with Cher, Christina Aguilera and other names before and I had a chance to see it so I did. It really isn't anything new, or even special, except that it's pleasing like comfort food if one is of a mind.

 
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 19, 2018, 12:34:31 AM

--The Old Man & the Gun

Robert Redford had announced this would be his last film role and it's a nice little send off. He and Sissy Spacek make a nice screen pairing. It's a true story based on a New Yorker article and is about a man who likes to rob banks. Casey Affleck is a policeman who becomes involved in searching for him. Others in the cast are Danny Glover Keith Carradine, Elisabeth Moss and Tom Waits. The film is light, easygoing and an interesting tale.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 20, 2018, 11:27:11 AM

--SPOILERS--

If you don't want to know anything about this film, please do not read my remarks about it.


--Mary Poppins Returns

I hesitate to write anything about this. I hadn't seen much at all about it, even a preview, as I purposely avoided anything. How can a return to a special movie made over fifty years ago be as good?  Well, this one's a mixed bag. The acting is good all around; everyone's character is in place and they deliver. The biggest truth about this film is that the songs are not really that good. There's a couple decent ones that bookend the film and the rest are passable, but they just don't catch you.

The chimney sweep character in this film, Lin-Manuel Miranda as Jack, is very good, but in the original film he acted as somewhat of a narrator to the story and also had an almost romantic rapport with Mary Poppins. In this film he's much more of a bystander who comes and goes. I don't feel that works as well. The main plot of the film is that the grown up child Michael Banks, is on hard times and has lost his wife and in order to avoid losing his house, the one he grew up in (17 Cherry Tree Lane), he has a week to pay his debt he owes on it or they'll be evicted. He's becoming detached from his three children and his sister Jane helps out to try and find a solution for these troubles. Meanwhile, Mary Poppins blows in to help to the surprise of Jane and Michael.

One thing that bothered me, and I've complained about this in previous posts about movies I've talked about, is how much of it was filmed. This current obsession with color desaturation makes a lot of the world of this movie dark. Why? They are in danger of losing their home and the home is filmed in such dark desaturated tones that you wonder why they'd care. If you recall, the original film's home was brightly lit and appealing. This style works in the opening number where Jack is extinguishing the gas street lamps throughout London which is waking up from a dark foggy night. I liked that sequence.

The film seems much in the rhythm of the first film, with an opening number to set the tone, a bit later the father has an introspective verse or two, then there's a "Spoonful of Sugar" type number and somewhat later an animated one. Then there's an outing to visit a Poppins relative, like the Uncle Albert scenes in the original. This one's played by Meryl Streep. I did not care for this sequence, the character or the song at all. The final scenes are reminiscent of the "Go Fly a Kite" number in the original and thankfully filmed brightly and happily. There are some surprises here and there; some I knew about and some I did not.

When Mary Poppins came out, special effects (Oscar winning) like we saw in that film were not commonplace (nor done with computers) as they are now.  Neither, if you recall, were animated films which were few and far between. Now animated films come out in bunches and computers allow CGI effects to appear in nearly every film so that what used to be "special" effects are now just visual effects. All that diminishes what you see in this new version because it's not really "special" any more and films themselves are accessible at nearly any moment.

Still, you'll find some pleasure in the film and I'm sure younger folks will not carry the baggage of memories of the original for decades like many of us have. I'm pondering that I'd probably like it a great deal more on a second viewing because of that.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 20, 2018, 03:14:28 PM
--SPOILERS--

If you don't want to know anything about this film, please do not read my remarks about it.

--Mary Poppins Returns

Thanks for your review, Lyle. I've seen TV commercials for the film, but that's about it. Somewhere I read a joint interview with Lin-Manuel Miranda and (Spoiler!) Dick Van Dyke, but that's been about it.

I don't mean to be unfair, but I can't imagine anyone could even begin to compete with Julie Andrews.

Of course, I saw no reason for there to be a stage musical of Mary Poppins, either.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on December 21, 2018, 11:19:49 AM
Of course, I saw no reason for there to be a stage musical of Mary Poppins, either.

I saw the stage musical of Mary Poppins in Los Angeles. It was really glorious. It wasn't "just" the movie.
It had some new songs and brilliant choreography done my Matthew Bourne. (One person I will use the term
"genius" for what he does.) The old songs got re-invented in a few marvelous ways and the end of the first act
was where the original movie ended, so the second act was new! The show had Bert dancing around the whole
proscenium (upside down!) and at the end when Mary Poppins flies away, she did just that, off the stage, over
the audience, up past the mezzanine AND the top balcony! It really was supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on December 27, 2018, 04:34:14 PM
I saw the stage musical of Mary Poppins in Los Angeles. It was really glorious. ... It had some new songs and brilliant choreography done my Matthew Bourne.

That's interesting. I'd never heard that Matthew Bourne was involved with the show (Mary Poppins).

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The end of the first act was where the original movie ended, so the second act was new!

I'd never heard that, either. I wonder if any of the other stage versions of Disney films are like that?

And I still haven't seen Saving Mr. Banks. ...
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Post by: Flyboy on January 07, 2019, 08:54:59 AM
I watched a French film called Nothing to Hide this weekend. I think it's been out in several different languages too, but evidently the French version is the original? Anyway, interesting storyline that keeps drawing you in because you WANT to see how it ends.......which, the ending is unusual as well....I liked it...
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Post by: Flyboy on January 07, 2019, 09:03:35 AM
I also watched Bird Box last night. I guess it held my attention, but it dragged on too long for me, plus there was too much missing in the storyline. Great actors in it though, I especially liked Trevante Rhodes, he of the Moonlight fame. It had a strange ending, not believable at all to me......
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 09, 2019, 10:33:49 AM

--The Favourite

I finally saw this one and it was quite good, although a few things about it were annoying.
I didn't like several odd camera movements the director did, as though you were getting
your bearings from a security camera. I didn't like the way the titles were displayed for each
segment, and the credits as well. They were laid out in a very annoying manner. Kudos for
something different, but don't ever do that again! Also, what was that ending supposed to
signify?  It left me perplexed.


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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 09, 2019, 10:53:21 AM
Golden Globes--was pretty decent with some of the winners.  Enjoyed Green Book getting three wins,
and good ones at that. That film had the most wins.

I hate that Alfonso Cuaron is getting plaudits from nearly everyone about his movie Roma.
He's winning awards for director, foreign film, editing and cinematography. He did all of it.
It's his fault.  Read Richard Brody's review in The New Yorker to see how I feel about the
film.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-front-row/theres-a-voice-missing-in-alfonso-cuarons-roma

The Golden Globes show itself was a massive bore with a couple good moments. Glenn Close's speech was
heartfelt and often a really good Globes speech can help you win an Oscar! (I have not seen The Wife yet.)
Carol Burnett was, as usual, warm, friendly, and poignant.  Rami Malek's speech was also grand, as was
Ben Whishaw's for winning in A Very English Scandal.



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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 09, 2019, 11:00:51 AM
Glenn Close's speech was heartfelt and often a really good Globes speech can help you win an Oscar! (I have not seen The Wife yet.)
Carol Burnett was, as usual, warm, friendly, and poignant.  Rami Malek's speech was also grand, as was
Ben Whishaw's for winning in A Very English Scandal.

I agree with all of this.   ;)

And hopefully Gl C will win her oscar for her acting abilities only (without "speech help"). She deserves it, and it's about time.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 09, 2019, 11:27:03 AM
I just saw the BAFTA nominations. Guess which film is the favorite?  :)


12 NOMINATIONS
The Favourite

7 NOMINATIONS
Bohemian Rhapsody
First Man
Roma
A Star Is Born

6 NOMINATIONS
Vice

5 NOMINATIONS
BlacKkKlansman

4 NOMINATIONS
Green Book
Cold War

3 NOMINATIONS
Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Mary Poppins Returns
Mary Queen of Scots
Stan & Ollie

2 NOMINATIONS
Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald
If Beale Street Could Talk
Isle of Dogs

1 NOMINATION
Avengers: Infinity War
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Beast
Beautiful Boy
Black Panther
Capernaum
Dogman
Incredibles 2
McQueen
Mission: Impossible – Fallout
A Quiet Place
Ready Player One
Shoplifters
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Widows
The Wife
You Were Never Really Here

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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 09, 2019, 01:25:26 PM

BB, is this a nom. for TC?
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 09, 2019, 04:25:27 PM

Update: I just found out that it is indeed the nomin. for TC, at the Baftas.
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Post by: Flyboy on January 10, 2019, 08:27:57 PM
Went to see Vice tonight.........Me, oh My!! I do believe it may have caused me to despise Dick Cheney & Co even MORE, if that's possible!! But, it could be up for Oscar noms, so I wanted to see it........
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Post by: tfferg on January 13, 2019, 05:59:07 AM
I have seen the shorts twice and it is on my list but does not start here until Boxing Day (along with The Happy Prince which is a definite for me) Not sure the vomiting appeals to me.  :(

Characters in The Favourite do vomit, but the film doesn't dwell on it.
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Post by: Sara B on January 13, 2019, 07:45:59 AM
I loathe seeing vomiting. Even though André Aciman apparently enjoys viewing it! Can’t see the appeal myself...
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Post by: gattaca on January 13, 2019, 12:20:25 PM
Went to see Vice tonight.........Me, oh My!! I do believe it may have caused me to despise Dick Cheney & Co even MORE, if that's possible!! But, it could be up for Oscar noms, so I wanted to see it........
Vice is still playing but I think I'll defer to Netflix or another on-demand option.  I despise that SOB and really don't need to get all worked up.  My son saw it and said there were a lot of clips and cuts in the film and at times it was hard to follow if you didn't really know something about the SOB.  So.. once I see, I'll chime in.   V

rotten (62%) -> https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/vice_2018
Ebert's site (1.5/4.0) -> https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/vice-2018

"Unusual for a writer-director whose language possesses such snap and pizazz, McKay delights in throwing anything and everything up on screen, including type, unexpected news photos (Nancy Reagan sitting on Mr. T’s lap) and stock footage like a clip featuring Marvel’s Galactus, “Devourer of Worlds.”
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Post by: gattaca on January 13, 2019, 12:43:41 PM
Saw "On the Basis of Sex" yesterday to an almost full showing. 

I guess I was hoping for more "enlightment" as one of the reviews below discusses but I understand why they might have chosen a plotted path. Just last night my son's buddy's girlfriend (who's a conservative) was ranting about women HAVING to do the same things as men and evidently my son, who'd just seen the film, told her to go look up one of the many things which have fallen since the 70's:  Being fired from a job when a women gets married, all forms of credit in her husband's name, ... stuff like that.  She came back in an OMG and was the one who was enlightened. 

I'm glad this film was made b/c there's a whole generation of millennials who have no clue about anything in this film!
Sorry, rant off. 

As for the film.  it was a bit slower paced. They were careful to draw clear lines between the way things were and they way things changed.  Armie has a good supporting role but it is clear Felicity is the main attraction. Armie was just as  :o  as in his other films. I'm not complaining!

There are some really good examples of the "male mentality" of the 1970's and I remember all too well all the discussions around "women's rights, women's liberation" and equal pay for equal work which is still not on par.   Her interaction with the Dean of Harvard (Sam Waterston) was in-line with the pervasive attitudes then, and far too many now.

The LA Times summary is reflects my feelings - "“On the Basis of Sex” does its best to prove otherwise, but it is hindered by its own lack of imagination, its contentment with an easy-listening summary of its subject’s accomplishments. It would be silly to expect this movie to achieve the cinematic equivalent of Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s brilliance, but you can’t help wishing it had more to offer than righteous speeches and stirring glances, that it put a few more ideas in your head to go with that lump in your throat."

There are spoilers in the links below, so read lightly.  Bottom line, if you are a big Hammer fan, then ignore the above and enjoy the view!  ;D  V.

Ebert's site (3.5/4.0) -> https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/on-the-basis-of-sex-2018
Rotten (71%) -> https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/on_the_basis_of_sex
LATimes Review -> https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-on-the-basis-of-sex-review-20181221-story.html
LATimes -> https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/la-en-mn-felicity-jones-20181217-story.html
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Post by: brian on January 13, 2019, 01:19:12 PM
Characters in The Favourite do vomit, but the film doesn't dwell on it.
Yes I saw it on NYE and the vomiting did not upset me. I quite enjoyed it although I thought it a bit over the top ridiculous.
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 13, 2019, 02:41:32 PM
If you are an Armie fan, then ignore the above and enjoy the view!   

LOL - good advice!
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Post by: Flyboy on January 14, 2019, 06:43:54 AM
I'm seeing it this week. I guess it will be worth it just to view Armie for a while?!  :P :laugh: :o
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 14, 2019, 06:50:42 AM

Most certainly.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 14, 2019, 04:42:31 PM

--All is True

This stars Kenneth Branagh, who also directed, Judi Dench and Ian McKellan. The story concerns William Shakespeare.
After his theater burns down he gives up writing plays and comes back home to a lot of personal and family drama. The
film was nicely photographed and was better than I'd expected it to be. A lot of the drama plays out a bit like Dynasty,
so it was entertaining.  The last section seemed a bit redundant, sometimes Branagh doesn't know to quit while he's ahead!

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 14, 2019, 05:06:28 PM

--Magic in the Moonlight

This is a Woody Allen film from a few years ago that I hadn't seen. It stars Colin Firth. He's a
magician who likes to debunk spiritualists and a friend of his sets him on the trail of one played
by Emma Stone. Her mother is played by Marcia Gay Harden, but she's wasted in the film. It's
pretty good, but Woody Allen's cynicism kind of let's down the ending of the film so it isn't a film
you'll end up embracing. As his films go lately, though, this one is better than some of them.

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 14, 2019, 05:07:09 PM

--The Wife

I didn't know what this film was about, but if offers way more interest than I'd expected it to.
Glenn Close plays "the wife" of a novelist, played by Jonathan Pryce, who is awarded the Nobel
prize in literature. Flashbacks, with the couple played by Glenn's real life daughter Annie Stark
and Harry Lloyd, show how this present circumstance might not live up to what we believe it
ought to be.

Livening up the proceedings is a good scene with a character played by Elizabeth McGovern and a nice
supporting role for Christian Slater. The acting is uniformly good, with one minor exception. Max Irons,
Jeremy Irons son, plays the son in this film and he seemed very out of place with the rest of the cast.

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 16, 2019, 01:13:49 PM

--Bohemian Rhapsody

I thought at least one other person had seen this film already, but I did a search and couldn't locate any posts. It was a whole
lot better than I'd been led to believe here and there. The critics haven't been that enthused about the film...maybe it's because
the problematic Bryan Singer directed it. (One reviewer said the movie was tainted because of that.) Maybe it's because it's
another movie some loud voices are criticizing saying it downplays Freddy Mercury's sexuality. (It doesn't, unless someone
wants graphic sex.)  I never followed the band Queen explicitly during their heyday, but I do like their music and I enjoyed
the film quite a bit. (Critics only have it at 62% on Rotten Tomatoes, but the public score has it at 90%.)

One of Queen's bandmates was played by Joseph Mazello. I kept wondering where I'd heard that name before, it seemed familiar.
He was the actor who played the young boy in the first Jurassic Park film 25 years ago! The same year he was also really good in
a Debra Winger film (she was Oscar nominated) called Shadowlands.

(http://staticimg.jkcontent.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Joseph-Mazzello.jpg)


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Post by: Flyboy on January 16, 2019, 01:38:43 PM
Lyle, I have it on my list to see before the Oscar noms. People here who have seen it just RAVE about it....so, it's true, I guess! What do the critics know anyway??  ;) :P :laugh:
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Post by: Sara B on January 16, 2019, 02:22:16 PM
I thought it was very good while I was watching it, but it somehow didn’t stay with me for long afterwards.

Rami Malek was excellent. And I thought Freddy M’s sexuality was covered adequately, as far as I knew about it anyway.
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 16, 2019, 02:25:49 PM

I'm not particularly looking forward to watching Boh Rh, but I absolutely want to see The Wife.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 16, 2019, 02:38:30 PM
I thought it was very good while I was watching it, but it somehow didn’t stay with me for long afterwards.

Just like a typical rock concert!  Huh?  What happened last night?   :laugh:

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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 16, 2019, 02:43:15 PM

LOL
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Post by: Gillian on January 16, 2019, 03:01:45 PM
I rave about Bohemian Rhapsody a lot. I loved it SO MUCH. If I start going on about it, I'll never stop.  :laugh:
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Post by: Sara B on January 16, 2019, 03:08:49 PM
Oh go on then!
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 16, 2019, 03:28:38 PM

 ;D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 16, 2019, 04:07:08 PM

Sure, Giliian, please do!
 
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Post by: Gillian on January 16, 2019, 04:13:25 PM
Late in the evening here, so just a few things...

Rami Malek. Amazing. All about his performance. He doesn't look exactly like Freddie Mercury, but that's all good - he has the moves, he has the sass and the emotions, -he made me believe him as Freddie 100%.

All the four band members have been perfectly cast. Two of them are so alike the people they play, it takes time for you to distinguish Brian May and John Deacon from the actors who play them. And their personalities as four distinct persons come across clearly. As does the fact that all four of them wrote big hits.

There's a lot of humour in the band's interaction that makes them very relatable and helps make the film a happy one, celebrating the band's (and Freddie's) artistry, music and success - without hiding the difficult times.

The focus is on the joy, not the sorrow. The film ends on a high with a recreation of much of Queen's triumphant Live Aid performance, and it is very hard to not sing along. Also, the recreation of Wembley Stadion is amazing. That scene is so full of energy and joy!

The costumes!! They're replicas, of course, and they are out of this world.

The glimpses into the process of creating some of the band's most iconic songs (especially Bohemian Rhapsody) are actually very interesting. The guys were not afraid to experiment.

Those most iconic songs are used to underline what happens in a number of scenes, and to emphasize plot or character development. That works incredibly well. The film starts with Mercury's 'Somebody to Love' -in the lyrics he's pleading to find somebody to love. And at the end, it turns out that was the overall theme.

I love the in-jokes. Adam Lambert, ( who sometimes tours with the remaining Queen members), has a cameo. Mike Myers, who sent Bohemian Rhapsody soaring on the charts after he insisted using it in 'Wayne's World' has a role as a music executive who lambasts the song and has no faith in Queen.

Freddie's family background and the fact that he was a POC of Indian/Persian descent is made a point of. His sexuality, drug use and the AIDS diagnosis are quite adequately covered, IMO - but the drugs and illness are not dwelt upon.

The scenes involving his sister and parents are lovely, IMO.

Freddie loved cats and had a whole lot of them, which he took very good care of. The cats are featured and even used to provide reaction shots.

There have been complaints that the film is not biographically and chronologicallly true. Which is correct, but each scene serves to distill one or more important events, or to reference them. For instance, the way Freddie meets his eventual boyfriend/husband Jim In the film is fictional, but the spirit of their meeting is intact, at least according to Jim's memoir: When he asked Freddie how come he was the one, Freddie answered; 'You fought me, you won me.'

There are a LOT of 'little things' to enjoy once you notice them - and many won't be noticed unless you see the movie more than once. Which I may have done.  :laugh:

There are objections to be made, obviously. The story is simplified. The villain is Very Villainous. Two of the Queen band members were involved in the movie as producers, and they were on set a lot. They obviously had a say about how they themselves were portrayed, for one thing. But I don't care about the objections.

It's a film that fills me with joy and energy. It focuses on the artistry, companionship and the music, and by all accounts, that was what Freddie Mercury wanted to be remembered for. It's a film that has made me a fan of Rami, and which has made me research the real Queen and their music, and -believe it or not! -  has even made me a fan of the 1970's rock star hairstyles and crazy fashions. And any film that could manage that, deserve ALL the awards.  8)

Ahem. Did I mention I love this film?






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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 16, 2019, 04:17:59 PM

 ;D

This is great!!
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Post by: gattaca on January 16, 2019, 05:02:45 PM
^^^^ Great review and some friends felt the same way.. they rarely tell me how much they liked a film but they LOVED this one on the big screen.  I want to see it.  I enjoyed Queen's music and thought he was as important as "Prince".  I always wondered if all the guys who ranted about hating "homosexuals" which I grew up with - really knew or wanted to know Mercury was homosexual.   It's on my see list but I might not get to see it on the big screen.   G.
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Post by: Flyboy on January 16, 2019, 08:44:56 PM
I went to see On the Basis of Sex today. I have to say, I was impressed with all the performances. I do feel a little out-of-touch because I was ALIVE during the Court Case, but don't remember it being covered in the press that much!!  :o :o :o. I was BUSY during that time with college and career and whatnot...sorry! But it was informative to me. I loved it. I love dramas on the screen, on the stage, no, I don't. On the stage, all I care about are Musicals, Song and Dance........LOL!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

If you haven't seen it, it's well worth it. Oh, did I mention Armie Hammer is in it??  ;)
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Post by: Flyboy on January 16, 2019, 09:22:42 PM
Tomorrow I'm going to see BR.......I really kinda anxious about it, since my ears are so troubling now, I'll sit WAAAAY back in the theater, without my hearing aid in, see how that goes. I did okay with A Star is Born, my tinnitus was in low gear that day, so the music didn't bother me that much. I can only hope it will be that way tomorrow too!!  :D :D :D
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 17, 2019, 01:10:02 AM
If you haven't seen it, it's well worth it. Oh, did I mention Armie Hammer is in it??  ;)

Good advice!  ;)
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Post by: Sara B on January 17, 2019, 01:47:43 AM
Tomorrow I'm going to see BR.......I really kinda anxious about it, since my ears are so troubling now, I'll sit WAAAAY back in the theater, without my hearing aid in, see how that goes. I did okay with A Star is Born, my tinnitus was in low gear that day, so the music didn't bother me that much. I can only hope it will be that way tomorrow too!!  :D :D :D

Think I said before that when I bought my ticket for BR I was told apologetically that there were subtitles for that performance, which had not been announced beforehand. However it was actually quite good as I’m v sensitive to loud noise, and I could wear earplugs some of the time and still know what was going on!

Great review, Gillian!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 17, 2019, 07:22:55 AM
This isn't "This Weekend," but last evening Turner Classics showed East of Eden. I had never seen it; indeed, I'd never seen any of James Dean's three films, but after last night I think I understand the fuss and the regret about a talent lost so young. I found him absolutely riveting. (Maybe it's even cliche to praise his talent and lament his early death, but after last night I'm inclined to agree with the praise and the lament.)

(I did see a few minutes of the film some time ago, and I think I may have commented on that here, but I'd never seen the entire movie before.)

(And I see that the film really is a "Cain and Abel" story.)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 17, 2019, 10:28:35 AM
^^^

I should revisit that movie, i only saw it once on VHS, which means it was pan & scanned, not the widescreen version.
Dean's talent in these three films was on display...but you wonder how he'd be viewed over a long career. I mean, Peter
Bogdanovich made three brilliant films in a row and was looked at as a wunderkind, but then moving on from there
never reached those heights again in his directing career. I guess Orson Welles, too.

By all accounts, the gay actors in Hollywood, such as Rock Hudson and Roddy McDowall, thought James Dean was a
royal pain in the ass. But, then again, you find almost anyone who had a working relationship with him described him
the same way.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 17, 2019, 10:59:57 AM



Gillian, your post made me like the film even more!

I love the in-jokes. Adam Lambert, ( who sometimes tours with the remaining Queen members), has a cameo.

This I didn't know, where was this in the film? I have a BAFTA friend's screening copy at the moment and I can
go look for it.

Freddie loved cats and had a whole lot of them, which he took very good care of. The cats are featured and even used to provide reaction shots.

Something I liked in the film, too. Cats are usually the butt of jokes in films and if they appear at all, it's only briefly. So the appearance of cats every once in awhile I thought was quite appealing. Made me like Freddie all the more!


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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 17, 2019, 11:21:46 AM
^^^

I should revisit that movie, i only saw it once on VHS, which means it was pan & scanned, not the widescreen version.
Dean's talent in these three films was on display...but you wonder how he'd be viewed over a long career.

Good point.

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By all accounts, the gay actors in Hollywood, such as Rock Hudson and Roddy McDowall, thought James Dean was a
royal pain in the ass. But, then again, you find almost anyone who had a working relationship with him described him
the same way.

I seem to recall hearing or reading somewhere (from you, Lyle?) that the annoyance extended beyond work.
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Post by: Gillian on January 17, 2019, 02:51:16 PM


Gillian, your post made me like the film even more!


That's great!  8)

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This I didn't know, where was this in the film? I have a BAFTA friend's screening copy at the moment and I can go look for it.


I envy you the access to a screening copy.

Adam is the trucker who checks Freddie out before entering the men's room when Freddie's outside the concert venue in a phone booth phoning home. Adam's not easily recognizable due to hair and makeup.
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Post by: Flyboy on January 17, 2019, 09:37:07 PM
I watched BR tonight. I was not prepared to be so intrigued by it! Rami gave the performance of a lifetime, no doubt. And being a Biopic, he could get and Oscar nod, who knows? I would have never guessed Adam Lambert was the trucker guy!! LOL....I heard Mike Myers was in the film too, but no idea where. It's hard to make a decent film covering that long of a time period, and having to leave out so much material. I would recommend it to everyone. It sorta draws you in, can't be helped! LOL....I didn't care for the Paul guy, who was Freddie's BF for a while, and we never saw much of Jim Hutton, simply because the film timeline ended just about where their relationship started.
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 18, 2019, 12:57:07 AM

I wonder if Barbara Valentin, an actress from the Fassbinder clan who became a very close fried of FM and was his host during the Munich era, is also depicted in the movie.

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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 18, 2019, 12:57:42 AM

(https://www.welt.de/img/regionales/bayern/mobile132176827/2002507757-ci102l-w1024/Barbara-Valentin-und-Freddie-Mercury.jpg)
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 18, 2019, 12:58:08 AM

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/cf/be/aa/cfbeaae0e6fef8593af9de45a3c49a2d.jpg)
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Post by: Gazapete on January 18, 2019, 09:18:01 AM
I heard Mike Myers was in the film too, but no idea where.

Mike Myers is the manager that tells them that Bohemian Rhapsody is not the kind of song teenagers would listen to while driving around  :laugh: I thought this cameo was brilliant!

I think Barbara Valentin is omitted in the movie, Ingy. The Munich days are presented as a really dark time.
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Post by: Gazapete on January 18, 2019, 09:32:10 AM
Gillian, your review is brilliant! It is fun how people seem completely taken by surprised by this movie. My aunt, who never was a Queen fan, I doubt she even knew the music before watching the movie, was fangirling over it during the whole Christmas. She said she never knew Freddie was such a talented special guy. That's what pushed me to the cinema, I was a bit skeptical, because Freddie has always fascinated me and I was a bit scared about how he would be portrayed. But no need to worry, I also loved the movie, my better half was also impressed, we have been having Queen sounding in the background nonstop since we watched it, much to the increasing impatience of our girl  :laugh:

But I was a bit irritated by some timeline "mistakes", I would specially have liked to see Freddie and Jim meet as they actually did, and see their relationship develop a little bit further. 
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 18, 2019, 11:03:41 AM
(https://www.welt.de/img/regionales/bayern/mobile132176827/2002507757-ci102l-w1024/Barbara-Valentin-und-Freddie-Mercury.jpg)

She could be played by Margot Robbie.
___

EDITED TO ADD:  I was staring at that photo for a bit and THIS came to mind!   :laugh:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b6/fe/f9/b6fef9cefaade353072b985ad094d1ca.jpg)

Karen Black from Trilogy of Terror.

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 18, 2019, 11:05:09 AM
Adam is the trucker who checks Freddie out before entering the men's room when Freddie's outside the concert venue in a phone booth phoning home. Adam's not easily recognizable due to hair and makeup.

Oh that was him!  Thanks for that!
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 19, 2019, 10:07:41 AM
I think Barbara Valentin is omitted in the movie, Ingy. The Munich days are presented as a really dark time.

Too bad.

Now I feel even less inclined to go watch BR.
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 19, 2019, 10:08:13 AM
She could be played by Margot Robbie.
EDITED TO ADD:  I was staring at that photo for a bit and THIS came to mind!   :laugh:
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b6/fe/f9/b6fef9cefaade353072b985ad094d1ca.jpg)
Karen Black from Trilogy of Terror.

LOL
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 20, 2019, 11:42:41 AM

--Mission: Impossible - Fallout

A lot of my friends who saw this last year said this was a really entertaining film so I rented (NetFlix) it this weekend.
I actually would've liked it a bit more if I'd seen it in a theater, but I did enjoy the ride. A lot of these kinds of movies
get way too complicated and you end up watching action sequences with no context, but this one keeps giving you what
you need to know and offers a whole lot of chills and spills. Heh...I was just thinking of the title "Fallout." There's a lot of
people falling out of everything in this movie...buildings, planes, helicopters, mountain ledges, vans, cars, motorcycles,
boats...you name it! Twists and turns abound.
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Post by: gattaca on January 20, 2019, 05:28:50 PM
^^^^ Ditto.  I actually enjoyed the film and in general, I skip all of Cruise's films.

The last Cruise flick I actually enjoyed was "Top Gun"  Ever since he went in deep with the "L. Ron Hubbard crowd," I marked him and his films down as firm I'll pass.   To each his own.
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Post by: oilgun on January 20, 2019, 08:53:39 PM
OMG. Brokeback Mountain is on TV tonight. I hadn't watched it in a quite while but it still has the same effect. I'm pretty much bawling my eyes out, lol!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 21, 2019, 08:39:41 AM
OMG. Brokeback Mountain is on TV tonight. I hadn't watched it in a quite while but it still has the same effect. I'm pretty much balling my eyes out, lol!

I haven't watched it in years, so it's nice to know it's holding its power.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 22, 2019, 11:20:37 AM

Oscar nominations are out today. There's a lot of places to find the list by category,
here's one by the number of nominations:

10 NOMINATIONS

The Favourite
Picture
Director (Yorgos Lanthimos)
Actress (Olivia Colman)
Supporting Actress (Emma Stone)
Supporting Actress (Rachel Weisz)
Original Screenplay
Cinematography
Costume Design
Film Editing
Production Design

Roma
Picture
Director (Alfonso Cuaron)
Actress (Yalitza Aparicio)
Supporting Actress (Marina de Tavira)
Original Screenplay
Cinematography
Production Design
Sound Editing
Sound Mixing
Foreign Language Film


8 NOMINATIONS

A Star Is Born
Picture
Actress (Lady Gaga)
Actor (Bradley Cooper)
Supporting Actor (Sam Elliott)
Adapted Screenplay
Cinematography
Song (“Shallow”)
Sound Mixing

Vice
Picture
Director (Adam McKay)
Actor (Christian Bale)
Supporting Actress (Amy Adams)
Supporting Actor (Sam Rockwell)
Original Screenplay
Film Editing
Makeup and Hairstyling


7 NOMINATIONS

Black Panther
Picture
Costume Design
Production Design
Score
Song (“All the Stars”)
Sound Editing
Sound Mixing


6 NOMINATIONS

BlacKkKlansman
Picture
Director (Spike Lee)
Supporting Actor (Adam Driver)
Adapted Screenplay
Film Editing
Score


5 NOMINATIONS

Bohemian Rhapsody
Picture
Actor (Rami Malek)
Film Editing
Sound Editing
Sound Mixing

Green Book
Picture
Actor (Viggo Mortensen)
Supporting Actor (Mahershala Ali)
Original Screenplay
Film Editing


4 NOMINATIONS

First Man
Production Design
Sound Editing
Sound Mixing
Visual Effects

Mary Poppins Returns
Costume Design
Production Design
Score
Song (“The Place Where Lost Things Go”)


3 NOMINATIONS

The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Adapted Screenplay
Costume Design
Song (“When A Cowboy Trades His Spurs For Wings”)

Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Actress (Melissa McCarthy)
Supporting Actor (Richard E. Grant)
Adapted Screenplay

Cold War
Director (Paweł Pawlikowski)
Cinematography
Foreign Language Film

If Beale Street Could Talk
Supporting Actress (Regina King)
Adapted Screenplay
Score


2 NOMINATIONS

Isle of Dogs
Animated Feature
Score

Mary Queen of Scots
Costume Design
Makeup and Hairstyling

Never Look Away
Cinemtography
Foreign Language Film

RBG
Song (“I’ll Fight”)
Documentary Feature


1 NOMINATION

At Eternity's Gate (Willem Dafoe)
Avengers: Infinity War
Border
Christopher Robin
Capernaum (Lebanon)
First Reformed
Free Solo (Doc.)
Hale County This Morning, This Evening (Doc.)
Incredibles 2
Minding the Gap
Mirai
Of Fathers and Sons
Quiet Place, A
Ralph Breaks the Internet
Ready Player One
Shoplifters (Japan)
Solo: A Star Wars Story
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Wife, The
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 22, 2019, 11:21:43 AM
ALPHABETICAL LIST OF ALL FILMS NOMINATED
(except short subjects)

At Eternity's Gate (Willem Dafoe)Avengers: Infinity WarBallad of Buster Scruggs, The
Black Panther
BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
Border
Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Capernaum (Lebanon)
Christopher Robin
Cold War
Favourite, The
First Man
First Reformed
Free Solo (Doc.)
Green Book
Hale County This Morning, This Evening (Doc.)
If Beale Street Could Talk
Incredibles 2
Isle of Dogs
Mary Poppins Returns
Mary Queen of Scots
Minding the Gap
Mirai
Never Look Away
Of Fathers and Sons
Quiet Place, A
Ralph Breaks the Internet
RBG
Ready Player One
Roma
Shoplifters (Japan)
Solo: A Star Wars Story
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Star is Born, A
Vice
Wife, The
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 22, 2019, 11:45:15 AM

10 for ROMA, that's enormous.
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Post by: Gazapete on January 22, 2019, 12:02:00 PM
Much more considering that it is a film in Spanish! ;D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 22, 2019, 12:29:28 PM

Of the 8 films nominated for Best Film, Roma would be at the bottom of my list.
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Post by: Flyboy on January 22, 2019, 01:09:33 PM
I guess I'm going to have to rent Blackklansman......but Black Panther? An Oscar-worthy film? I saw it, unfortunately I thought it was going to be a LOUD one, didn't wear my hearing aid, couldn't hear half the dialogue so had to try to follow the storyline visually. But an Oscar nom film? No, I would NEVER have thought that......others persuaded me to see the film. I rarely see Action Figure films. But I did this one......who knew it would get this attention? Maybe it's just a nod to it's tremendous box-office figures?! hmmmm?

I hope Glenn Close wins though! Haven't seen The Wife either, will try too!! She's a great actress, IMHO, you understand?! I do so hope that Viggo and Ali win their categories!! Great acting by both......
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Post by: Flyboy on January 22, 2019, 01:12:00 PM
I just cannot agree that a foreign film can be a nom for BOTH best picture AND best foreign film. Something wrong with that concept, IMHO, you understand?!  ;D
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Post by: Gazapete on January 22, 2019, 02:01:49 PM
Yeah, I don't get that either, Jonn.
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 22, 2019, 02:28:31 PM
I hope Glenn Close wins though! Haven't seen The Wife either, will try too!! She's a great actress, IMHO, you understand?! I do so hope that Viggo and Ali win their categories!! Great acting by both......

I agree fully.
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 22, 2019, 02:29:10 PM

Eight movies, or nine to choose from for Best Movie - that's too much. It should be five, like before.
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Post by: killersmom on January 22, 2019, 04:22:04 PM
Glenn Close has won all the other major awards to date, and tied with Lady Gaga for the Film Critics Award.
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 22, 2019, 04:34:36 PM

Suspense!
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 22, 2019, 05:47:41 PM
I guess I'm going to have to rent Blackklansman......but Black Panther? An Oscar-worthy film?
[...]
Maybe it's just a nod to it's tremendous box-office figures?! hmmmm?

That success and also all the talk about it being historic because it was a black cast, story and crew.  Mostly, of course.
But as superhero films go...it wouldn't be my choice to nominate. Maybe if it was an all gay superhero film I'd feel differently.  :)

I hope Glenn Close wins though! Haven't seen The Wife either, will try too!! She's a great actress, IMHO, you understand?!

Over the years of handicapping Oscars, one of the downsides Glenn Close faces to win is that The Wife only got
one nomination. Normally one nomination isn't going to do it for an actress win. Not never, but almost. Julianne Moore
overcame that a couple years ago with her film Still Alice only getting one nomination, but two of her competition
that year were also one nomination films, the next had two. Only Felicity Jones was in a picture nominee. This year
three of Glenn's competitors are in Best Picture nominated films, indicating nice support for those films. There is also
a huge British membership in the Academy so Olivia Colman might be right in there as competition. I don't know how
much support Lady Gaga would have, though she'll still get that song Oscar.

I do so hope that Viggo and Ali win their categories!! Great acting by both......

I wouldn't mind at all!
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 22, 2019, 05:56:01 PM

This is the first year I can remember when a couple films were nominated that I'd never even heard of before the announcements.

One is At Eternity's Gate.  Willem Dafoe nominated for Best Actor playing Vincent Van Gogh.
Where the hell did they dredge that one up?
 
Another is Border that was nominated for Makeup and Hair Styling. I guess it's a Swedish film, but I'd not heard of it before.

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 22, 2019, 05:57:38 PM

Here's how I'd rank the 8 Best Picture nominees in order of my own preference...


Green Book

Bohemian Rhapsody

Vice

The Favourite

BlacKkKlansman

A Star is Born

Black Panther

Roma

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 22, 2019, 06:00:47 PM

By the way, the Producers Guild Awards were announced last Sunday:

PGA Theatrical Film of the Year
Green Book

PGA Animated Film of the Year
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

PGA Documentary Film of the Year
Won't You Be My Neighbor?
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Post by: brian on January 22, 2019, 06:02:00 PM
I saw 'At Eternity's Gate'. I did not like the film because my eyes hurt with the jumping around of the camera and other adventurous techniques. Reviewers made the same comment, apparently it was to help us feel the mental state of Van Gogh but I did not appreciate it at all. However I did think Willem Dafoe's acting was very good. However I have only seen 4 or 5 of the movies on the lists.
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Post by: Flyboy on January 23, 2019, 09:03:17 PM
Went to see The Upside tonight. One of those films where you can just sit back and enjoy! LOL...no deep thinking needed :o :o :o...I do like Bryan Cranston though, so I'd have seen it anyway.....don't know anything about Kevin Hart, other than he's NOT hosting the Oscars. Nicole Kidman was a surprise in this. Didn't even KNOW she was in the cast. Simple, easy-listening/watching film. No Oscar noms for the this one, I don't think? 
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 25, 2019, 12:06:36 PM

I have a few friends who are SAG members, 3 males and one female, who just sent in their votes for the SAG awards this weekend.  Here's how they voted:

Lead Actor Movie
Viggo Mortensen, GREEN BOOK
Rami Malek, BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY
John David Washington, BLACKKKLANSMAN
Rami Malek, BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY

Lead Actress Movie
Olivia Colman, THE FAVOURITE
Olivia Colman, THE FAVOURITE
Glenn Close, THE WIFE
Glenn Close, THE WIFE

Supporting Actor Movie
Mahershala Ali, GREEN BOOK
Mahershala Ali, GREEN BOOK
Mahershala Ali, GREEN BOOK
Timothee Chalamet, BEAUTIFUL BOY

Supporting Actress Movie
Margot Robbie, MARY, QUEEN OF SCOTS
Amy Adams, VICE
Margot Robbie, MARY, QUEEN OF SCOTS
Rachel Weisz, THE FAVOURITE

Stunts Ensemble for Movie
Avengers: Infinity War
Mission: Impossible: Fallout
Mission: Impossible: Fallout
Mission: Impossible: Fallout

Cast Ensemble for Film
BlacKkKlansmen
Bohemian Rhapsody
Crazy Rich Asians
Crazy Rich Asians
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 25, 2019, 12:17:55 PM

Voting for Awards used to be conducted by mail. Now it is entirely by computer for the most part.

When I was the buyer for a small chain of Video Stores, once in the 1980's at the place I worked out of,
an Academy member had their Oscar Ballot in hand. It was a customer I talked to frequently and I
asked if I could vote in one of the categories!  Heh!  I thought I'd be greeted with an immediate NO WAY,
but he replied, "Which category?" I said, "Best Actress".  He asked me, "Well, who would you vote for?"
I told him. He said, "Okay then!"

So he spread the ballot out on the counter and I marked the Best Actress category for:
Shirley MacLaine in TERMS OF ENDEARMENT.

Of course, afterward he told me that's who he wanted and if I'd said someone else he wouldn't
have let me do it. But I did actually mark the ballot for Shirley MacLaine, whom I have always
considered my favorite movie actress, and like to think I helped win an Oscar!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on January 25, 2019, 12:56:52 PM
Voting for Awards used to be conducted by mail. Now it is entirely by computer for the most part.

When I was the buyer for a small chain of Video Stores, once in the 1980's at the place I worked out of,
an Academy member had their Oscar Ballot in hand. It was a customer I talked to frequently and I
asked if I could vote in one of the categories!  Heh!  I thought I'd be greeted with an immediate NO WAY,
but he replied, "Which category?" I said, "Best Actress".  He asked me, "Well, who would you vote for?"
I told him. He said, "Okay then!"

So he spread the ballot out on the counter and I marked the Best Actress category for:
Shirley MacLaine in TERMS OF ENDEARMENT.

Of course, afterward he told me that's who he wanted and if I'd said someone else he wouldn't
have let me do it. But I did actually mark the ballot for Shirley MacLaine, whom I have always
considered my favorite movie actress, and like to think I helped win an Oscar!

Shirley owes you a debt of gratitude.  :)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 25, 2019, 02:15:39 PM

--The Ballad of Buster Scruggs

This is a Coen Brothers film distributed by NetFlix, so it was theatrically released
very limitedly and then available on their streaming services.  It also, a surprise
to many, received three Oscar nominations this year for Adapted Screenplay,
Costume Design and Song.

I thought this film was quite entertaining. It's a series of six different stories, which are,
in order:

"The Ballad of Buster Scruggs"
"Near Algodones"
"Meal Ticket"
"All Gold Canyon"
"The Gal Who Got Rattled"
"The Mortal Remains"

Like any film like this it's hard to say you like it, because you'll like a story or two more than the others, but
overall this is one of the best of these kinds of films in my opinion. I liked the title story, which is an odd musical.
The second one was intriguing. "Meal Ticket" was fascinating with an emotional ending. All Gold Canyon is so
beautifully filmed.  It seems like I might have enjoyed these films in rank as the order they actually appeared.
None of them seemed to outstay their welcome in my opinion.

If you like westerns I'd be sure to watch these interesting stories. One of them is based on a song and another
on a Jack London story.

It's certainly something different.
 
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Post by: Flyboy on January 25, 2019, 04:30:07 PM
Voting for Awards used to be conducted by mail. Now it is entirely by computer for the most part.

When I was the buyer for a small chain of Video Stores, once in the 1980's at the place I worked out of,
an Academy member had their Oscar Ballot in hand. It was a customer I talked to frequently and I
asked if I could vote in one of the categories!  Heh!  I thought I'd be greeted with an immediate NO WAY,
but he replied, "Which category?" I said, "Best Actress".  He asked me, "Well, who would you vote for?"
I told him. He said, "Okay then!"

So he spread the ballot out on the counter and I marked the Best Actress category for:
Shirley MacLaine in TERMS OF ENDEARMENT.

Of course, afterward he told me that's who he wanted and if I'd said someone else he wouldn't
have let me do it. But I did actually mark the ballot for Shirley MacLaine, whom I have always
considered my favorite movie actress, and like to think I helped win an Oscar!
Bwwwaaahhhhaaa!! You never told me that!!  :o :o :o Shirley is best friends with Barbra, I'm guessing you KNEW that too!! You could have been the difference, remember the TIE!?? Yup, it happened.
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Post by: Flyboy on January 25, 2019, 04:31:29 PM
I'm going to watch ROMA this weekend, it's on Netflix. I HOPE it has English subtitles cause my Spanish is not so good!!  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 26, 2019, 11:24:10 AM

--Cold War

This film is Poland's entry in the Oscars for Best Film in Another Language. It also got
a Best Director nomination. RT synopsis: "Cold War is a passionate love story between
a man and a woman who meet in the ruins of post-war Poland. With vastly different
backgrounds and temperaments, they are fatefully mismatched and yet condemned
to each other. Set against the background of the Cold War in 1950's - '60's Poland,
Berlin, Yugoslavia and Paris, it's the tale of a couple separated by politics, character
flaws and unfortunate twists of fate - an impossible love story in impossible times."

It's a brisk 90 minute story filmed in b&w. It looked better than Roma did to me,
which seemed more like it was filmed in color and then transferred to b&w. There's
a difference. It reminded me a bit of Same Time, Next Year, though it's not a comedy
by any means. I found it interesting, but slighter than most critics who are amplifying
it's virtues.


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Post by: brian on January 26, 2019, 12:51:31 PM
I was very disappointed with 'Cold War' Must admit I do not like having to read captions unless French/German when I can follow but need help or perhaps Spanish/Italian. There were some brief sections with German and later French but most was Polish/Russian/Serbian. Language may have been part of the reason but I did not think the acting was very good, could not relate to the characters. Glad it was short as watching was just hard work.
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Post by: Flyboy on January 27, 2019, 08:00:43 AM
I tried to watch ROMA last night. I just couldn't get into it at all!  :-\
I'm not a fan of subtitles anyway, but the storyline? Never got that far watching it.

Switched over to watch The Cakemaker, a German/Israeli made film. I liked it ok, but the ending leaves you hanging!! Not a fan of films that can't seem to WRAP UP the storyline......you know?  :-\

I prefer films that are like a 3 Act Play!! The beginning or introduction to the storyline and characters, a Middle which is the MEAT of the Story, and the Ending, which wraps up the story. I know we can't always have a nice tidy ending. At least don't leave the viewers hanging........just my preference, I guess....maybe the filmmakers do this because there's a sequel in the works, who knows?  ;D
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Post by: Gazapete on January 27, 2019, 08:57:52 AM
You guys kind of spolied the fun for me, I had only heard good things about both movies. I am so used to subtitles that it makes no difference to me. There was a huge controversy in Spain with Roma, because some genius mind with too much free time in Netflix decided to "translate" the Mexican subtitles into Castilian Spanish. After a couple of days of receiving hate from everywhere they decided to take them away.
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Post by: B.W. on January 27, 2019, 10:00:34 AM
OMG. Brokeback Mountain is on TV tonight. I hadn't watched it in a quite while but it still has the same effect. I'm pretty much bawling my eyes out, lol!




You don't see many films that do that to people.  Its nice to know that "Brokeback Mountain" (2005) still has that effect on people.  I've never watched it on a television channel.  Did they edit any of these scenes down?
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Post by: B.W. on January 27, 2019, 10:15:45 AM
That success and also all the talk about it being historic because it was a black cast, story and crew.  Mostly, of course.
But as superhero films go...it wouldn't be my choice to nominate. Maybe if it was an all gay superhero film I'd feel differently.  :)

Over the years of handicapping Oscars, one of the downsides Glenn Close faces to win is that The Wife only got
one nomination. Normally one nomination isn't going to do it for an actress win. Not never, but almost. Julianne Moore
overcame that a couple years ago with her film Still Alice only getting one nomination, but two of her competition
that year were also one nomination films, the next had two. Only Felicity Jones was in a picture nominee. This year
three of Glenn's competitors are in Best Picture nominated films, indicating nice support for those films. There is also
a huge British membership in the Academy so Olivia Colman might be right in there as competition. I don't know how
much support Lady Gaga would have, though she'll still get that song Oscar.

I wouldn't mind at all!



I haven't seen "Black Panther" (2018), but I have heard a number of people that I know say that they loved it.  It is considered culturally significant due the refences to African culture and the colonization of many African countries in the story and having a black superhero as the main character, which you don't often see besides the "Blade" film series. My husband loves the first "Blade" (1998) movie, although I didn't much care for it.  The fact that so many of the cast and crew members who worked on "Black Panther" being black is important to so many because who better knows the experiences of what it is like to be a black person better than black people themselves?  It deals with themes that seem to tie-in to what black people have gone through and still go through today.  "Black Panther" may mark a new turn in the history of black film.  The film's financial success at the international box office is astounding.  I would like to see this movie someday.  I usually don't care for superhero-themed films.  They come out with so many of them.  This is one that sounds very interesting and seems to have a very intriguing story.
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on January 28, 2019, 01:49:23 AM

Six highlights or special moments from yesterday's Screen Actors Guilds Awards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-LR9hjqoQ
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on January 28, 2019, 10:05:15 AM
I have a few friends who are SAG members, 3 males and one female, who just sent in their votes for the SAG awards this weekend.  Here's how they voted:

Here's how they fared last night, winners in BOLD.

Lead Actor Movie
Viggo Mortensen, GREEN BOOK
Rami Malek, BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY
John David Washington, BLACKKKLANSMAN
Rami Malek, BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY

Lead Actress Movie
Olivia Colman, THE FAVOURITE
Olivia Colman, THE FAVOURITE
Glenn Close, THE WIFE
Glenn Close, THE WIFE


Supporting Actor Movie
Mahershala Ali, GREEN BOOK
Mahershala Ali, GREEN BOOK
Mahershala Ali, GREEN BOOK

Timothee Chalamet, BEAUTIFUL BOY

Supporting Actress Movie
Margot Robbie, MARY, QUEEN OF SCOTS
Amy Adams, VICE
Margot Robbie, MARY, QUEEN OF SCOTS
Rachel Weisz, THE FAVOURITE
Emily Blunt, A QUIET PLACE, WON

Stunts Ensemble for Movie
Avengers: Infinity War
Mission: Impossible: Fallout
Mission: Impossible: Fallout
Mission: Impossible: Fallout
Black Panther WON

Cast Ensemble for Film
BlacKkKlansmen
Bohemian Rhapsody
Crazy Rich Asians
Crazy Rich Asians
Black Panther WON
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Post by: oilgun on January 30, 2019, 05:03:08 PM



You don't see many films that do that to people.  Its nice to know that "Brokeback Mountain" (2005) still has that effect on people.  I've never watched it on a television channel.  Did they edit any of these scenes down?

Nothing that I noticed.
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Post by: B.W. on January 30, 2019, 05:43:42 PM
Nothing that I noticed.



I don't watch films on TV as much because sometimes they edit scenes and I don't like that, especially if it is a movie that I enjoy watching.
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Post by: Flyboy on February 02, 2019, 07:55:25 AM
I watched Alex Strangelove last night. A teen 'coming of Age' flick, or a coming out flick. Not bad, surprised to see Ben Stiller as Producer. Did not know he was producing films.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 02, 2019, 11:42:01 AM

Does the title character become a physician?   :laugh:

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Post by: Flyboy on February 02, 2019, 12:44:06 PM
He was going to be a Marine Biologist, but you don't know WHERE he ended up, just that he got with the BF at the end.........unless they shot a sequel.......
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Post by: Flyboy on February 03, 2019, 09:19:09 AM
I watched Velvet Buzzsaw last night. Hmmmm? It's not a film or storyline for everyone, IMHO! It's a quirky story. I think somewhere in the dialogue I  thought I heard someone reference the fact that Jake's character had a former male lover. Hmmm? In the film he's having sex with a female, no indication he's gay or bi, or whatever, just the one comment, and I probably heard it wrong. He looks so young and preppy in this film.

I can't see this film making much money, but if you are into the Art World, you might enjoy it, don't know though. Jake has said he likes to pick unusual roles to play, this is one.
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Post by: Gazapete on February 03, 2019, 02:56:56 PM
He speaks often about Ed, introduced as his boyfriend at the beginning and then his ex, after he hooks up with Josephine. We see him jumping into the pool (all of Ed). He is bisexual in this movie.

I enjoyed it, but I like horror. I guess it's a matter of taste. It's a dark movie, but with a sense of humour and it pulverises the world of modern art. I'm familiar with all this art galleries world because of my family and I swear I recognised some of the characters depicted! Seeing them pulverised is probably one of the motives I enjoyed the movie ;)
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on February 03, 2019, 04:30:22 PM

Jonn & Elena, did you see the movie at home?

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Post by: B.W. on February 03, 2019, 08:27:39 PM
I recently watched the British theatrical film "Apostasy" (2017) about a young woman who is excommunicated from the Jehovah's Witnesses for having a child through a non-marital sexual relationship with a non-JW man while at college and the effect that her excommunication has on her mother and younger sister.  It was filmed by an ex-JW man and was very well-made.  Being an ex-Jehovah's Witness myself, it was a hard but worthwile film to watch that provides no easy answers.  I also saw "The Children Act" (2018) with Emma Thompson, Stanley Tucci and Ben Chaplin about a female judge in England who orders the court to require a local hospitial to give a Jehovah's Witness boy a blood transfusion that saves his life.  The JW boy ends up leaving the Jehovah's Witness denomination and develops somewhat of an romantic infatuation with Emma Thompson's character who is in a crumbling marriage with Stanley Tucci's character.  I liked the theme of choice in the film, it is a good movie, but I liked "Apostasy" better.  "The Children Act" is based on a book, I believe.
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Post by: B.W. on February 03, 2019, 08:34:55 PM
One thing that really annoyed me, however, is the way Viggo's character eats like a pig. Spitting food on the car seat next to him while eating greasy fried chicken, folding a large pizza in half to take a bite, in bed, no less. I mean who eats like that? It drove me nuts and took me out of the story.

A lot of American films seem to have gross scenes involving food. Julie's husband in Julie and Julia also had disgusting table manners. My friend and I couldn't help but comment every time we saw him literally slobbering over a meal. Even in A Star is Born there is a scene where Bradley inexplicably shoves a bagel with cream cheese in Lady Ga Ga's face!

Not to mention the "classic" food fight scenes over the years. I always found them more offensive than funny. Even Fried Green Tomatoes had one. Couldn't they just have a lesbian lovemaking scene instead?  :)


I think Jon Avnet who directed "Fried Green Tomatoes" (1991) said that the food fight scene between Idgie Threadgoode and Ruth Jamison was supposed to be an analogy for lesbian lovemaking.  Idgie and Ruth were such a good team as friends, but it wasn't until years later that I began to notice the subtle lesbian subtext of the film. How it escaped me the first time I ever watched it, I don't know. Was I really that naïve and stupid back then? I must have been, because it seems so more obvious to me now.  I heard that the lesbian relationship between Idgie and Ruth is more explicit in the novel, but I haven't never read the novel.  I think that the movie was largely overlooked by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences in 1992.  The film only received a Best Supporting Actress nomination for Jessica Tandy's performance as Ninny Threadgoode, a deserved nomination in my opinion, but I think that the film should have received far more Oscar nominations in other categories.
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Post by: Flyboy on February 03, 2019, 09:40:34 PM
Jonn & Elena, did you see the movie at home?
Ing, at home, I have Netflix.
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Post by: Gazapete on February 03, 2019, 10:52:51 PM
Me too.
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on February 04, 2019, 01:08:10 AM
Ing, at home, I have Netflix.

Oh, really?
Are you satisfied with it?
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on February 04, 2019, 01:08:31 AM
Me too.

Oh, I see. Hätte ich jetzt nicht gedacht.
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Post by: Gazapete on February 04, 2019, 01:14:43 AM
Sehe ich nicht wie ein Netflixmädel aus? ;)

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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on February 04, 2019, 01:19:05 AM

Nein, überhaupt nicht.

 :)
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Post by: Gazapete on February 04, 2019, 01:26:27 AM
We have had Netflix for three or four years now, they have some really good shows and plenty of movies to keep you entertained. The main user is big girl though. I am watching the Assassination of Gianni Versace show with Penelope Cruz now. Like right now. I should be working.
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on February 04, 2019, 01:37:51 AM

Soll ich mit Dir schimpfen?   ;D
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on February 04, 2019, 01:38:42 AM

Seriously: It would be too dangerous for me.
I'd sit all day in front of the screen and watch all the goodies.

I can imagine that your daughter is very fond of it!   ;)
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Post by: Gazapete on February 04, 2019, 02:00:36 AM
Soll ich mit Dir schimpfen?   ;D

Bitte!  :laugh:
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on February 04, 2019, 02:27:59 AM

(https://www.stuttgarter-nachrichten.de/media.media.a150f250-5705-4cae-8b28-11d3b9541372.original1024.jpg)
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Post by: Gazapete on February 04, 2019, 03:24:59 AM
(https://www.schnittberichte.com/news/pics2/pippi_top.jpg)
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on February 04, 2019, 03:32:52 AM

(https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/50/60/21/240_F_50602119_B5GpkUK7nqcZGMqN0Wp3XB3gOFeZpmQr.jpg)
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 04, 2019, 07:48:32 AM
(https://www.schnittberichte.com/news/pics2/pippi_top.jpg)

Careful. Your face might stay that way. ...
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Post by: Gazapete on February 04, 2019, 08:07:29 AM
Too late  :laugh:
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on February 04, 2019, 08:23:29 AM

 :laugh:



OMG.

You crack me up.

Elenita, you make me giggle.

*waves from his laughing fit*

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 04, 2019, 10:35:38 AM

I had posted this in the Jake thread about Velvet Buzzsaw for anyone here who saw the film, but not his.

A review of Velvet Buzzsaw:

Netflix’s ‘Velvet Buzzsaw’ is an Unrivaled Head-Scratcher of a Movie

I saw Netflix’s Velvet Buzzsaw with six or seven different film critics I know at its Sundance premiere this past Sunday, and to a person, we all began the movie with “Velvet Buzzsaw” written at the top of our notebook pages and left with the rest of the page still blank. What do you even say about this strange movie? I didn’t understand what I was watching while I was watching it and I still don’t. I’ve never seen a headscratcher quite like this one.

https://uproxx.com/movies/velvet-buzzsaw-review-netflix/

By the way, that paragraph above mentions something that made me never want to even contemplate legitimate movie reviewing.
How can you truly enjoy a movie with a notepad in hand and making notes? It would seem to me that you'd eventually go into films
looking to judge them in some way. Trying to find fault or praise instead of experiencing them.

Etc.
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Post by: Gazapete on February 04, 2019, 11:56:25 AM
*waves back at Ingy*

Have you seen it, Lyle?
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Post by: B.W. on February 04, 2019, 12:00:25 PM
Careful. Your face might stay that way. ...



Isn't that image from the Swedish "Pippi Longstocking" film series, I've never seen them.  I have never read the book or series of books either. I've seen Nelvana's animated film and Tristar Pictures' "The New Adventures of Pippi Longstocking" (1988) with Eileen Brennan and Tammi Erin.  A few years ago, I saw a picture of Tammi Erin who played Pippi on the Internet and she grew up to be very pretty.  I heard that she was featured in a porn film and works as a model, I think.
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Post by: B.W. on February 04, 2019, 12:04:02 PM
A few weeks ago, I watched Martin Scorcese's theatrical remake of "Cape Fear" (1990).  I liked it.  However, the scene where Robert De Niro tries to seduce Juliette Lewis's character disturbed me.  Gregory Peck starred in both film versions.  He was also great in "To Kill a Mockingbird".
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Post by: Gazapete on February 04, 2019, 12:12:44 PM
Yes, that's the original (and for me one and only) Pippi. I loved it as a child and watched it as an adult with my kids and still love it, and they had a blast watching it. We have the whole series. All other versions are pretty bleak, IMHO,  they don't come even close to the original. My Pippi:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5x-bUTWTTcs
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 04, 2019, 01:14:05 PM
Quote
By the way, that paragraph above mentions something that made me never want to even contemplate legitimate movie reviewing.
How can you truly enjoy a movie with a notepad in hand and making notes? It would seem to me that you'd eventually go into films
looking to judge them in some way. Trying to find fault or praise instead of experiencing them.

Isn't that what critics do?  :(
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Post by: B.W. on February 04, 2019, 01:25:05 PM
I watched BR tonight. I was not prepared to be so intrigued by it! Rami gave the performance of a lifetime, no doubt. And being a Biopic, he could get and Oscar nod, who knows? I would have never guessed Adam Lambert was the trucker guy!! LOL....I heard Mike Myers was in the film too, but no idea where. It's hard to make a decent film covering that long of a time period, and having to leave out so much material. I would recommend it to everyone. It sorta draws you in, can't be helped! LOL....I didn't care for the Paul guy, who was Freddie's BF for a while, and we never saw much of Jim Hutton, simply because the film timeline ended just about where their relationship started.


I love "Queen" and Freddie Mercury.  "Bohemian Rhapsody" may be their best song.  I heard that the film was good.  Has anyone on this forum other than me watched Adam Lambert's performance of Cher's song "Believe" (1998).  I liked it a lot.
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Post by: B.W. on February 04, 2019, 01:37:23 PM
Isn't that what critics do?  :(



I take film critics' opinions into consideration, but I don't take them too seriously.  Just because a film critic likes a movie, doesn't mean that I will, and just because a film critic doesn't like a certain movie, it doesn't mean that I won't like it.  For instance, countless film critics from around the world praised the first two films in "The Godfather" series.  They are well-made, but they are not my favorites and I wouldn't necessarily consider myself as being a fan of those films. Another example might be this: Kenneth Turan has a highly negative view towards James Cameron's theatrical film "Titanic" (1997) and was very skeptical of the film even before its original theatrical release took place.  I love "Titanic" and am always captivated by it.  Is it a flawless film in every way? No, but then again, no film is without its flaws.  However, I feel that "Titanic" has far more strengths than it does weaknesses. A lot of people from around the world don't and will not like this film.  Many dismiss the movie as being something that would really only appeal to teenage girls and young adult women.  I am not a teenage girl and haven't been for a long time. I'm not even young. I wasn't even really young during the film's original theatrical release and had no idea as to how strongly it would have impacted me.  I have always loved "Titanic" and probably always will.




Many film critics praised Ang Lee's "Brokeback Mountain" (2005) during that film's theatrical release, some LGBT, heterosexual and cisgender people hate the film with a passion I'm sure. Those heterosexual and cisgender people that don't like it, some of them don't have a prejudiced bone in their body towards LGBT people or anyone else of whatever background, they just didn't like the film.  Some LGBT people hate the film and feel that it was highly overrated and probably not very realistic.  I have no problem towards people who are not anti-LGBT who hated it just because it didn't appeal to them.  I have no problem with LGBT people who dislike "Brokeback Mountain" either.  I'm not LGBT and this film was just captivating from the first time I saw it in theaters.  Some people don't and won't like it, and that's okay with me. Everyone has a different taste in films.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 04, 2019, 01:49:44 PM
Have you seen it, Lyle?

No. There's a possibility I might be invited to a SAG screening of it on the weekend depending on some things.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 04, 2019, 01:56:58 PM

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Trying to find fault or praise instead of experiencing them.

Isn't that what critics do?  :(

Ultimately, but there's a difference in seeing a film without knowing you have to judge it for others instead of just yourself.
If you're making notes while watching a film you're certainly not watching one the same way as a general audience. Kind of
like the driver of a car has a different experience than the passengers.
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Post by: killersmom on February 08, 2019, 09:52:48 AM
Albert Finney, five-time Oscar nominee, dead at 82

Albert Finney, the Oscar-nominated British actor best known for his roles in "Annie," "Erin Brockovich" and "Tom Jones," has died after a short illness, according to representatives of his family.

"Albert Finney, aged 82, passed away peacefully after a short illness with those closest to him by his side. The family request privacy at this sad time," reads a statement.


https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/02/08/entertainment/albert-finney-dead-scli-intl-gbr/index.html
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 11, 2019, 10:00:42 AM
OK, so, here I ago again with another Michael Pare movie on DVD. (Actually, I watched two of them  ::) but I'm really only going to discuss one in any detail.)

Saturday evening I watched Solar Force (1994) aka Lunarcop, and I have no idea why the two titles. I've seen the movie described as a Mad Max rip-off, and even though I've never seen the Mad Max movies, I expect that's accurate because the plot features guys in leather on motorcycles riding around a post-apocalyptic Earth. (In this case the bikes never seem to need refueling. I don't know what the situation is with the Mad Max movies.)

You can call it a rip-off if you like, but, funny enough, this movie reminded me of The Magnificent Seven (itself a Kurosawa rip-off but still one of the greatest Westerns ever made). While there is only one hero, Joe Brody (Pare), he helps the residents of a farming village defend themselves against the outlaw bikers, just like the guys in The Magnificent Seven. And there is one scene that I really choose to call a salute or a homage to Raiders of the Lost Ark. One of the bad guys is going after Brody, swinging something over his head with which to clobber our hero; Brody whips out his gun and shoots him, just like Indiana Jones with the Arab with the sword. I got a big smile out of that one.

By 1994 Pare had really muscled up, and whoever did the costumes really knew how to show him off, because for about half the movie, the only shirt he's wearing is a black tank-top (for the other half he's in a leather jacket). Actually, in general I thought the costumes were pretty good. I thought the sets and the cinematography were pretty good, too.

This ain't Shakespeare, but it's not intended to be. It's just a fun action flick. And like in any good Western, at the end, the hero rides off into the sunset. Well, in this case, it's into the rain, and he's on a motorcycle instead of a horse.

A peculiarity (besides the two titles): The text on the box art (is that the correct term?) names the heroine Xena, but her name is actually Thora.

Incidentally, the other Pare movie I watched (Sunday night), has, as far as I know, gone by three--count 'em--three titles: Instant Justice, Madrid Connection, and Marine Issue, the last being the title by which I bought the DVD.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 11, 2019, 11:36:37 AM

Jeff, I bought recently, and watched last weekend, The Philadelphia Experiment. I hadn't seen it since it came out in theatres and VHS back in the 80's and it was actually better than I remembered. This time I enjoyed the pre-CGI special effects. In the film, the boys are catapulted into the present, which was 1984 then, and, of course, I accepted it as the present when I first saw it, but when I watched it again I thought of it as period and marveled at what we used to take for granted as being "the present" which seems so bizarre right now. I also always liked the actor Bobby Di Cicco, who had starring roles for about a seven year period in the late 70's early 80's with films like I Wanna Hold Your Hand, 1941, The Big Red One, Splash! (minor role) and this one.

Recently I discovered Bobby Di Cicco and Michael Pare also co-starred with one another in a 1991 film titled The Last Hour (aka Concrete War). I have not seen that one.

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 11, 2019, 12:15:22 PM
Jeff, I bought recently, and watched last weekend, The Philadelphia Experiment. I hadn't seen it since it came out in theatres and VHS back in the 80's and it was actually better than I remembered. This time I enjoyed the pre-CGI special effects. In the film, the boys are catapulted into the present, which was 1984 then, and, of course, I accepted it as the present when I first saw it, but when I watched it again I thought of it as period and marveled at what we used to take for granted as being "the present" which seems so bizarre right now. I also always liked the actor Bobby Di Cicco, who had starring roles for about a seven year period in the late 70's early 80's with films like I Wanna Hold Your Hand, 1941, The Big Red One, Splash! (minor role) and this one.

Recently I discovered Bobby Di Cicco and Michael Pare also co-starred with one another in a 1991 film titled The Last Hour (aka Concrete War). I have not seen that one.

Hey, Lyle. I certainly enjoyed The Philadelphia Experiment a lot more than I expected when I finally watched it, and I have since watched it two more times. Did you notice that John Carpenter was executive producer (I think it was executive producer)?  Some of the things that are now "period" are amusing: Pare recognizes Ronald Reagan as an actor, and Nancy Allen tells him that Reagan is President. This is the movie where Michael Pare almost makes me cry; the scene is just after David has learned that his father became a successful auto racer but has died, and his line is "Good for you, Pop, good for you." Chokes me up a bit even to write it. It's his delivery and the look on his face that get me.

A lot of Pare's movies seem not easy to come by. I had to go all the way to Australia for Instant Justice, etc. I really want to get a copy of Into the Sun (Pare is a hotshot fighter pilot who gets stuck giving a "ride-along" to a conceited actor, played by Anthony Michael Hall). Apparently there never was an "official" release of his cop show, Houston Knights, on DVD (talk about silly premises: a Chicago detective is sent to Houston to get him away from the Mob, as if the Mob couldn't find him in Houston).

I've seen The Last Hour listed in his filmography. I also want to get a copy of World Gone Wild.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 15, 2019, 07:42:35 AM
Last night Turner Classics showed the film Lyle dislikes and I never miss, The Philadelphia Story.  ;D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 15, 2019, 11:31:13 AM
^^^

I never miss it, either!  :laugh:
___


--Bugsy

A friend and I revisited this film a couple days ago. The two leads, Warren Beatty and Annette Bening, make the film work because of their romantic relationship, otherwise it would be hard to root for a hot-tempered gangster who treats people badly! The film probably works even better now since we know that she and Beatty actually formed a long lasting relationship afterwards.

Annette Bening, to my surprise, was not nominated for this role and she should have been. The film has great on location photography portraying Los Angeles in the 1940's, including scenes shot in and around Union Station.  The same friend and I who watched this had taken a tour of Union Station last December and we learned that around 1990 the station was having trouble surviving, what with less train ridership and other factors and that might have been why this film was able to shoot so many scenes there without disrupting activity. (Since then light rail projects and such have increased the stations ridership to record levels nowadays. It's a beautiful place.)

The film had ten Oscar nominations and deservedly won for the costume design and art direction! Another thing we learned from an introduction to the movie was that Beatty had been prepping this movie for years and they had a script they liked which was LOST and they had to recreate the script from different people's memories. Before computers and all that!
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Post by: morrobay on February 20, 2019, 07:46:51 PM
I saw this once when I was a kid and always wondered why TCM never showed it.  I think I even contacted them online to request a long time ago, and here it is.  Love the theme music...well, I did back then.


The High and the Mighty
TCMHD - 64 Wed, 2/20, 11:15 PM 2 hrs 45 min
1954, Adventure, Drama, Aviation
During a flight from the Hawaiian Islands to the mainland city of San Francisco, a plane suddenly loses an engine as well as the pilot, forcing the vulnerable co-pilot to quickly find a way land the aircraft safely to save lives.
Credits: John Wayne (Actor), Claire Trevor (Actor), Laraine Day (Actor), Robert Stack (Actor), Jan Sterling (Actor), Phil Harris (Actor)
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on February 21, 2019, 07:52:43 AM
I saw this once when I was a kid and always wondered why TCM never showed it.  I think I even contacted them online to request a long time ago, and here it is.  Love the theme music...well, I did back then.


The High and the Mighty
TCMHD - 64 Wed, 2/20, 11:15 PM 2 hrs 45 min
1954, Adventure, Drama, Aviation
During a flight from the Hawaiian Islands to the mainland city of San Francisco, a plane suddenly loses an engine as well as the pilot, forcing the vulnerable co-pilot to quickly find a way land the aircraft safely to save lives.
Credits: John Wayne (Actor), Claire Trevor (Actor), Laraine Day (Actor), Robert Stack (Actor), Jan Sterling (Actor), Phil Harris (Actor)

I've heard of that one but have never seen it.

Once Claire Trevor was a big star. If you ever watch Stagecoach (IMO still one of the best Westerns ever made), she got top billing over John Wayne, who was no big deal until Stagecoach made him one.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 23, 2019, 10:50:25 AM

Although I'm not sure it's of interest to anyone, I always post what I think will win the Oscars each year!
So I'm doing it again!  Although it's a strange year with real upset possibilities. Who knows, when I go
to an Oscar party tomorrow I might even change a couple of these, who knows?  Heh!

Most years, there might be one, maybe two, controversies or the like influencing why something may or may not
win. This year you can come up with a dozen.  Like the #MeToo movement not wanting anything Bryan Singer
was involved with to win an award. (He's accused of molesting underage boys and he directed Bohemian Rhapsody.)
Many in Hollywood hate NetFlix because their movies are not theatrically released, except for a week or two--then
they're streamed online. Many many filmmakers hate that. NetFlix is behind Roma. How many votes does that mean?
Political views affect Vice and RBG. Political and racial views and "diversity issues" affect Green Book, Black Panther, Roma,
BlacKkKlansman and If Beale Street Could Talk. And that's just the tip of the iceberg this year.


BEST PICTURE
Green Book (WINNER)
(If Not: Roma)

BEST PICTURE IS LIKELY GOING TO BE ROMA OR GREEN BOOK. MOST OF THE PROGNOSTICATORS ARE FEELING ROMA WILL WIN.
I HATED ROMA SO I AM PICKING GREEN BOOK, which is my favorite of the nominees.

THE LAST 4 YEARS THE FILM THE PROGNOSTICATORS WERE SURE WOULD WIN BEST PICTURE, DIDN'T.
Boyhood, The Revenant, La La Land and 3 Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri did not win. (It's worth noting
that BAFTA chose all of those as Best Picture.) Birdman, Spotlight, Moonlight and The Shape of Water won the
Oscar. I hope this trend continues because BAFTA chose Roma Best Film. I hope the Oscars do not.

BEST ACTOR
Rami Malek, BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY (WINNER)
(If not: Christian Bale, VICE)

BEST ACTRESS
Glenn Close, THE WIFE (WINNER)
(If not: Olivia Colman, THE FAVOURITE)

SUPPORTING ACTOR
Mahershala Ali, GREEN BOOK (WINNER)
(If not: Sam Elliott, A STAR IS BORN)

SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Regina King, IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK (WINNER)
(If not: ?)

BEST DIRECTOR
Alfonso Cuaron, ROMA (WINNER)

ANIMATED FEATURE FILM
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (WINNER)

ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Deborah Davis, Tony McNamara, THE FAVOURITE (WINNER)
(It's thought that if Green Book wins this one, which I'd like, it will be on it's
way to win Best Picture.)

SCREENPLAY ADAPTATION
Kevin Willmott, Spike Lee, BLACKkKLANSMAN (WINNER)

FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM
Roma, MEXICO (WINNER)

CINEMATOGRAPHY
Roma (WINNER)

ANIMATED SHORT
Bao (WINNER)

LIVE ACTION SHORT
Marguerite (WINNER)

DOCUMENTARY FEATURE
Free Solo (WINNER)
(If not: RBG)

DOCUMENTARY SHORT
Black Sheep (WINNER)

ORIGINAL SONG
"Shallow”, A STAR IS BORN (WINNER)

ORIGINAL SCORE
Ludwig Goransson, BLACK PANTHER (WINNER)
(If not: Nicholas Britell, IF BEALE STREET COULD TALK)

VISUAL EFFECTS
Avengers: Infinity War (WINNER)
(If not: First Man)

COSTUME DESIGN
The Favourite (WINNER)

MAKEUP AND HAIRSTYLING
Vice (WINNER)

FILM EDITING
Vice (WINNER)

PRODUCTION DESIGN
The Favourite (WINNER)

SOUND EDITING
First Man (WINNER)
(I've been having a hunch A Quiet Place might win this, but I didn't choose it.)

SOUND MIXING
Bohemian Rhapsody (WINNER)


HAVE ANY OF YOU SEEN ANY OF THESE FILMS?  Not many of them have been discussed on this thread.

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 23, 2019, 11:02:56 AM
--Cold Pursuit

This is an English remake of the 2014 Norwegian film "Kraftidioten". This version is directed by the same director.
I read that this translates to: In Order of Disappearance.

This one stars Liam Neeson. Laura Dern has a small role, but rather non-descript. Anyone could have done it.

For about the last decade, the beginning of every year Liam Neeson has basically done a revenge action movie,
like Taken, for example.

This one started off like one of those routine action film plots.  But as it went along the unusual characters, plot and
dark humor started pervading the film until you weren't sure what you'd be seeing and I ended up really enjoying it.
For sure, the film won't be for everyone. It is quite violent. If one approaches that as cartoonish you'd be better served.
Among many humorous things in the film was one scene where a young boy says something that made me laugh more
than I have in a film in ages.

The basic plot of the film is that Liam Neeson's son is needlessly murdered and he sets off on a vigilante rampage to avenge
this situation, not knowing everything he's getting himself involved with. This film takes place in snowbound Colorado. (Liam's character
is a snowplow driver.)

The critics have warmed to it for the most part. It's a terrible generic title, IMO, though. If you're tired of the "same old thing"
you should check this one out.

Has anyone seen the Norwegian film: "Kraftidioten"? AKA: "In Order of Disappearance".

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Post by: janiebbmart on February 24, 2019, 04:39:32 AM

HAVE ANY OF YOU SEEN ANY OF THESE FILMS?  Not many of them have been discussed on this thread.

Thank you Lyle. To answer your question, yes I have seen several; Bohemian Rhapsody, Green Book, Vice, The Favourite plus Can You Ever Forgive Me and Beautiful Boy.

I don't get Netflix so haven't seen Roma. I absolutely hated The Favourite while recognising the quality of the performances. Like you I loved Green Book and also I really liked Can You Ever Forgive Me. I have no idea why Timothee Chalamet wasn't nominated for Beautiful Boy. It was a terrific performance but who can ever fathom the Oscars.
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Post by: killersmom on February 24, 2019, 07:18:56 AM
Janie, I'm convinced the 'old' guard in Hollywood does not like great talent in someone so young.
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Post by: janiebbmart on February 24, 2019, 11:55:49 AM
Linda you are absolutely right! It's like "Well it took us forever to get here so wait your turn".   ::)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 24, 2019, 12:03:08 PM

That doesn't seem to apply to the ladies, though.
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Post by: janiebbmart on February 24, 2019, 12:20:13 PM
Well there you go...it's just Tmmy envy!  ;)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 24, 2019, 12:29:47 PM
In this case, I wonder if it was the movie. Sometimes voters just don't want to see a downer drug movie.
At the end of the year voters have got a pile of screeners, it's holiday time and who really wants to put
on Beautiful Boy or Ben is Back or downers like Boy Erased?  You keep putting them lower in the pile and
maybe watch them, or not. Possibly.  Although, he was nominated in many other award groups.


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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on February 25, 2019, 01:09:30 AM

So, I guessed 17 of 24 this year.

Very glad Green Book won Best Picture.

Not unhappy that Olivia Colman won Best Actress,
but can't imagine what I'd feel like if I was in Glenn Close's position.

All the Best Picture Nominees won something...

Wins:
Black Panther (3)
BlacKkKlansman (1)
Bohemian Rhapsody (4)
The Favourite (1)
Green Book (3)
Roma (3)
A Star is Born (1)
Vice (1)

Others:
First Man (1)
If Beale Street Could Talk (1)
Spider-Man Into the Universe (1)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 02, 2019, 01:52:11 PM

Movies I've watched recently:

--Overlord (2018)
--Cold Pursuit (2019)
--The Lego Movie 2 (The 2nd Part) (2019)
--Teacher's Pet (1958)
--Here Come the Waves (1944)
--Crime in the Streets (1956)
--Armored Car Robbery (1950)
--City Heat (1984)
--Crazy Rich Asians (2018)
--To Be or Not to Be (1983)
--The Final Countdown (1980)

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Post by: Flyboy on March 02, 2019, 03:46:26 PM
Did you like Crazy Rich Asians? I couldn't decide if I wanted to see it or not in the theaters, so never did....
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Post by: gattaca on March 02, 2019, 05:46:16 PM
^^^^ Yes, it was quite entertaining.  In fact, I've seen it a couple of times.. Yeah it's a bit jaded.
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Post by: Sara B on March 03, 2019, 12:13:07 AM
Thank you Lyle. To answer your question, yes I have seen several; Bohemian Rhapsody, Green Book, Vice, The Favourite plus Can You Ever Forgive Me and Beautiful Boy.

I don't get Netflix so haven't seen Roma. I absolutely hated The Favourite while recognising the quality of the performances. Like you I loved Green Book and also I really liked Can You Ever Forgive Me. I have no idea why Timothee Chalamet wasn't nominated for Beautiful Boy. It was a terrific performance but who can ever fathom the Oscars.

I just wondered what you hated about The Favourite, Janie? I haven’t seen it but was thinking about going...
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on March 03, 2019, 03:23:00 AM

We saw GONE GIRL yesterday.

I know, it's not 'new', but we found it intriguing and highly entertaining.

I can't stand B. Affleck, but he does a good job here in Fincher's movie I have to admit.
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Post by: brian on March 03, 2019, 10:53:43 AM
I enjoyed 'The Favourite' but did not think it was marvellous and thought it was a bit over the top in the humour. Certainly did not hate it. I am glad Olivia Colman got the award although I did not see the Glenn Close movie as it was on here while I was travelling in the UK.
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Post by: Flyboy on March 04, 2019, 09:03:41 AM
My Netflix is being haywire on me lately, so I never completed the Film I was trying to view....LORD!! I may have to go back to renting DVD's again.... :o :o :o
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Post by: Flyboy on March 04, 2019, 09:05:42 AM
We saw GONE GIRL yesterday.

I know, it's not 'new', but we found it intriguing and highly entertaining.

I can't stand B. Affleck, but he does a good job here in Fincher's movie I have to admit.
I think I saw this film on a flight across the Pond, waaaaay back when...I think? I can't sleep on a plane, well, or ANYTHING moving, even though I try, with help from Tylenol PM, so the films I watched flying to and from Europe are all kinda BLURRY to me.... :P :laugh: :o
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on March 04, 2019, 09:21:21 AM

Then you should maybe watch it again.
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on March 04, 2019, 09:22:01 AM
can't imagine what I'd feel like if I was in Glenn Close's position.

oh dear, yes...

She must feel terrible.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 05, 2019, 10:25:27 AM

--Welcome to L.A.

This movie arrived in 1977 and it feels like it never came in for a landing. I'm not sure what this
was about. A bunch of strange people meander around the story and have a lot of ennui about everything.
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on March 05, 2019, 10:42:43 AM

Must look it up - sounds interesting.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 05, 2019, 10:50:02 AM
--Welcome to L.A.

This movie arrived in 1977 and it feels like it never came in for a landing. I'm not sure what this
was about. A bunch of strange people meander around the story and have a lot of ennui about everything.

Isn't that just a typical day in L.A.?
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on March 05, 2019, 11:06:13 AM

LOL
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 06, 2019, 12:04:58 PM
Isn't that just a typical day in L.A.?

I guess it was in 1977.  That's when I arrived in L.A.!

I looked it up now. Wiki and IMDB says it's a 1976 film as it premiered in Seattle then? But it didn't open in most of
the U.S. until the following spring. March in New York City. I've always penned it as a 1977 film.

The film was produced by Robert Altman and directed by Alan Rudolph. Wiki's brief synopsis of it says: Welcome to L.A. is
directed by Alan Rudolph and stars an ensemble cast. The film focuses on themes of romantic despair and shallowness during
the freewheeling and decadent 1970's, illustrated through a La Ronde-like circle of sexual adventures and failed affairs revolving
around a womanizing songwriter, his businessman father, and their associates.

That's what it's about?   ???

The ensemble cast includes Keith Carradine, Sally Kellerman, Geraldine Chaplin, Harvey Keitel, Lauren Hutton, Viveca Lindfors,
Sissy Spacek, Denver Pyle, John Considine, Richard Baskin and Ron Silver.

To me watching this film was more like Escape from L.A.  :D

While watching movies again contemporary to the 1970's I'm often quite astonished at how really ugly the look and design of
things in that decade were. The colors were jarring, often because of the ones they put together, there was lots of wood paneling,
or fake wood paneling in rooms, the clothes were rather all over the place and automobiles were clunky. The color schemes of things
seemed like they paired brown with avocado green or any number of colors paired with brown or tan. Anyone else feel that way?

I thought this in every 70's film I've watched in the last couple years from The China Syndrome, to Fun with Dick and Jane to Close
Encounters of the Third Kind to this one as well.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 07, 2019, 10:39:23 AM
--Song of the Islands

A technicolor 1942 Betty Grable movie that also stars Thomas Mitchell and Victor Mature and Jack Oakie.
Most of Grable's films were slight on the plots and this one's no exception. But I love the Pacific islands motif,
ostensibly Hawaii, and the islands influenced musical numbers. The movie takes place on a small fictional island
called Ahmi-Oni island which a map shows is right off the Hawaiian islands, though the names of the Hawaiian
islands are different on the map they use for some reason. (Is it because they didn't want people thinking about
Pearl Harbor? I don't know.)

Some real Hawaiians are in the movie like Hilo Hattie and also Harry Owens and His Royal Hawaiians. All but a
couple ocean shots were filmed on soundstages at 20th Century Fox, but in this case that's a good thing. It's colorful
and extremely entertaining if you're into this setting. The plot is forgettable and some of the comedy too broad, which
is what you get with Jack Oakie, but it's only 75 minutes and the Hawaiian influenced songs are worth it! For me, anyway.

Thomas Mitchell is obviously well-known as Scarlett O'Hara's father in Gone with the Wind, and he won an Oscar
that same year for Stagecoach. In this film he plays a transplanted Irishman named O'Brien and his thick Irish brogue
just makes you think he came from Atlanta and Tara. You can't help but be reminded. (One of the songs in the film is
"O'Brien Has Gone Hawaiian!")  A trifle to be sure, but if you enjoy the island motifs it'll be worth your while.

SIDE BAR: A favorite film of mine is John Schlesinger's YANKS, from 1979. (It's just been made available on Blu-Ray!)
It's about three different couples and their romantic attachments (all three have different ideas) in WWII England, right
before the American troops that have been training there will be sent to D-Day. Two of the G.I.'s make dates with two
English girls and they attend a movie. The poster at the theatre for the movie they'll be seeing is Song of the Islands!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 07, 2019, 01:21:52 PM
Thomas Mitchell is obviously well-known as Scarlett O'Hara's father in Gone with the Wind, and he won an Oscar
that same year for Stagecoach. In this film he plays a transplanted Irishman named O'Brien and his thick Irish brogue
just makes you think he came from Atlanta and Tara. You can't help but be reminded. (One of the songs in the film is
"O'Brien Has Gone Hawaiian!")  A trifle to be sure, but if you enjoy the island motifs it'll be worth your while.

He's also Uncle Billy in It's a Wonderful Life.

If I remember correctly, I read somewhere that Thomas Mitchell, Frank Morgan (The Wizard of Oz), and Barry Fitzgerald (Going My Way) were referred to as Hollywood's Irish Mafia.  :D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 13, 2019, 12:23:17 PM

--Come Back, Little Sheba

I hadn't seen this film in well, decades!  It's about a married couple whose lives become disrupted when the
wife gets a boarder in their house, a young college girl who reminds the aging wife, Lola, of her younger self
and her husband, a recovering alcoholic, who is trying to leave all of the past behind. The acting is top notch
all around with Burt Lancaster, Shirley Booth and Terry Moore all receiving Oscar nominations and also Richard
Jaeckal, so young he looked familiar to me, but I couldn't place him until I looked it up, as Terry Moore's love
interest.

Shirley Booth won the Best Actress Oscar for her role here. The film suffers ever so slightly from being dated,
but the acting makes up for it. It's based on a William Inge play, his first one, and I wonder if the play might
have been a bit more adult, sort of like the play and movie versions of A Streetcar Named Desire in the same
time period.



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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 16, 2019, 10:14:28 AM
I went out with a couple of friends to see the movie "Book Club ". It was a riotously funny movie. Definitely made for 'women of a certain age'.

It was a very a very enjoyable hour and a half. 4 women who have known each other since college, still get together for a book club, and lots of wine, each picking a book every month. One picks "50 Shades of Grey", and all their lives change, as they finish the first book and then read the other 2 in the series.

Jane Fonda, Mary Steenburgen, Candace Bergen, and Diane Keeton play the 4 friends, and Don Johnson, Craig T. Nelson, Richard Dreyfus, and Andy Garcia, respectively, play their love interests.

It really is a great movie, but as I said, it is only going to appeal to women of a certain age, but it sure was fun to watch.


--Book Club

What Linda said.

What an enjoyable film! The cast was obviously having a good time themselves and all worked together so well. I admit I was avoiding
the movie because I thought the conceit of using the Fifty Shades books was unworthy, but they were finally put to some good use! Heh!
More movies like this need to be made! 

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Post by: Flyboy on March 17, 2019, 09:03:21 AM
I watched an India film last night called Evening Shadows. It's about a Son who returns home after 4 years away, and his Father announces his arranged Wedding. Ooops!! The Son is gay, with a partner too. So, the film focuses on the Mother, and her Life with his over-bearing Father. The Son is torn whether or not to tell his Mother about his sexuality. An interesting film. I was struck by how sometimes the dialogue would lapse into English.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 17, 2019, 12:27:28 PM
^^^

When you say India film? Set in India or a Bollywood film?
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 17, 2019, 01:05:58 PM
--Mask

I saw Mask when it first came out in 1985. I liked it, but never saw it again. A friend I visit wanted to watch it last night and so we did. I still liked it, although now it's a period piece. (Ugh!) Actually, even as it came out in 1985 it was set in 1980.

I'm surmising you know what the film is about. It starred Cher, Eric Stoltz and Sam Elliott. There was a lot of talk about Cher getting a nomination for the film and many were surprised she didn't.  She and Eric Stoltz both got Golden Globe nominations for their roles, but not from AMPAS. It's possible, since the movie came out early in the year (March) it was less a thing when all the new movies were coming out. Cher certainly deserved it.

The five who got nominated were Anne Bancroft (Agnes of God), Whoopi Goldberg (The Color Purple), Jessica Lange (Sweet Dreams), Geraldine Page (The Trip to Bountiful) and Meryl Streep (Out of Africa).  The two performances I remember the least of those five are Anne Bancroft and Meryl Streep, although Out of Africa scenery images come more to mind!

When the film was made director Peter Bogdanovich had wanted to use Bruce Springsteen music in it for one thing as the real character Eric Stoltz played had posters of Springsteen all over his walls etc. (Lots of music is used in the film, even the Beatles). Apparently Warner didn't want to pay for that and they substituted Pete Seeger songs. Not the first choice. Sometime around 2004 Bogdanovich was able to re-score the film with the songs from Springsteen he had originally wanted to use in the film. They had a screening of it at the Cinematheque in Hollywood which my friend said he had attended.  Aside from he fact the Springsteen music is more recognizable than the Seeger songs used, this doesn't really make a whole lot of difference to the film. The story is affecting and the performances are all top notch,including a supporting and touching performance by Laura Dern as a blind girl.  If you've never seen this film you should check it out.

There was even a stage musical of the film that was done in 2008. Some video segments of it are posted on youtube.

FYI: The film did receive an Oscar nomination, just one, in the Makeup category, which it won, so it's on the list of Oscar winners. There's also the famous story about Cher appearing at the Oscars that year and wearing her "f-you to the Academy outfit", one of the all-time great outfits to be seen at the Oscars!

Actually: Here's the Oscar clip of Jane Fonda introducing Cher and Cher's entrance. The link is from a playlist and it segues into Cher's remarks and her presenting the Supporting Actor award to Don Ameche, who gives one of the classiest and brief acceptance speeches, which winners nowadays should emulate!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-ffIC2YnKk&list=PLJ8RjvesnvDP4JBpSocqX2Hr2krRXVP1f&index=9
 
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Post by: morrobay on March 17, 2019, 01:54:30 PM


The five who got nominated were Anne Bancroft (Agnes of God), Whoopi Goldberg (The Color Purple), Jessica Lange (Sweet Dreams), Geraldine Page (The Trip to Bountiful) and Meryl Streep (Out of Africa).  The two performances I remember the least of those five are Anne Bancroft and Meryl Streep, although Out of Africa scenery images come more to mind!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-ffIC2YnKk&list=PLJ8RjvesnvDP4JBpSocqX2Hr2krRXVP1f&index=9

Streep makes everything seem so effortless that sometimes it's hard for me to remember that she's acting.
I have only seen a handful of her movies, but Out of Africa is my favorite.  She has to compete with such stunning cinematography, but she is more than up to the task.

OUT OF AFRICA - MERLY STREEP - REQUEST FOR AFRICAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZfVyc8IkWY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZfVyc8IkWY)
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Post by: morrobay on March 17, 2019, 02:02:57 PM
a great scene, when she is at last accepted by the men's club, and when she says good bye to her servant.

And her voice as narrator at the very end is heart wrenching.  the clip stupidly cut off the last few words "I must remember to tell him". 


Out Of Africa | Leaving Africa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok9lZ9hz3oc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok9lZ9hz3oc)
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on March 17, 2019, 03:02:25 PM

Ooooh I remember that scene so very well.
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Post by: tfferg on March 17, 2019, 03:06:40 PM
^^^

When you say India film? Set in India or a Bollywood film?

It's an Indian film steaming on Netflix. The director Sridhar Rangayan crowd-funded most of the funds to finance it. It is said to be one of the first LGBTI-themed Indian films. It's set in a small town in southern India.
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Post by: Flyboy on March 17, 2019, 07:43:22 PM
It's an Indian film steaming on Netflix. The director Sridhar Rangayan crowd-funded most of the funds to finance it. It is said to be one of the first LGBTI-themed Indian films. It's set in a small town in southern India.
Thanks for explaining it, Tony!!  ;)
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Post by: Flyboy on March 18, 2019, 05:53:19 PM
Over the weekend I also watched The Pianist for the FIRST TIME!! I know, I know, hard to believe I never caught it before. Certainly a 'star turn' for the lead. I also watched a short quirky film with Ray Romano and Mark Duplass, that premiered at the 2019 Sundance Film Festival, now on Netflix.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 19, 2019, 01:12:44 PM

--Somewhere in Time

I revisited this film, not having seen it for so many years (decades?). I like time travel stories and so I remember seeing the novel this is based on in a bookstore back in 1979 maybe and it said "soon to be a major motion picture" and I thought I'd read it. (The novel was titled Bid Time Return.) One of the real appeals of the book to me is that the author, Richard Matheson, set it in the Hotel del Coronado, a place I've been to several times. I love that place...the history of it...everything. It's on the island of Coronado, adjacent to San Diego. It was built in 1886 and until they built a long bridge over to Coronado in 1969, you had to get there by ferry. I don't know about after the year 2000, but every President had stayed there at one time from 1886 to 2000. Richard Nixon even held a state dinner there for the President of Mexico in 1969.

Among it's other claims to fame, Frank Baum wrote The Wizard of Oz there. Although it is not a fact written in stone, it is thought that Edward first met Wallis Simpson there while Edward was staying there as he visited the nearby San Diego Naval Base and Coronado Air Station.  The Navy took over the Hotel during WWII as offices and coastal defense. The hotel is probably best known as the site for most of the film Some Like It Hot! It is so iconic in that film it has been used sparingly since, though the miniseries The Captains and the Kings shot some of it there and the 1980 Oscar nominated film The Stunt Man was filmed there.

None of this has anything to do with the film, though, because when I went to see it I had just expected it would've been filmed at the Hotel del Coronado but, alas, I was very disappointed. It was filmed at the Grand Hotel on Mackinac Island in Michigan.

My severe disappointment is probably why, though I did enjoy the film, I had not returned to it much until now. It is easy to see why they didn't film it in Coronado. The surroundings of that hotel are now too modern to be able to transform it to the period of the 1880's. (The film updated the time period to 1912.) Grand Hotel, on the other hand has lush green lawns and spare roads that the film makers were able to reasonably alter way more easily than the Coronado could have been. The novel's author also wrote the screenplay, so I'm guessing that he was okay with the change as well.

The story is about a playwright (Christopher Reeve) who, while at the Hotel, discovers the photo of a noted actress who had performed at the Hotel's theater in 1912 and he, well, falls in love with her, and, for reasons which are adequately enough explained, wants to go back in time to be with her.

The actress is portrayed by a superbly cast and radiant Jane Seymour and Christopher Plummer plays her manager. If one is of a mind you can easily slip into this world of romantic desire and lush surroundings and the superb musical score envelopes you into a hypnotic state.

The film was released without much fanfare or critical acclaim, but over "time" has become such a cult favorite that they have regular special themed weekends at the hotel where it was filmed and invite cast members to attend, which they all have at one time or another. Sentiment is often a hard emotion to portray in films and often it depends on one's own relationship to it, which can change at any given moment. So some people adore this film and others abhor it. Applause to those to whom it speaks to, because it's a very lovely experience.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 19, 2019, 01:29:05 PM
--Somewhere in Time

Another film with a rabid fan base, including me (or, maybe, I'm just sort of rabid). Jane Seymour and Christopher Reeve were about the height of their beauty, and the score is great (Rachmaninoff's "Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini" is perfect as the love theme).

Now I guess I know which film I need to watch this Saturday evening!
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Post by: morrobay on March 19, 2019, 06:38:48 PM
On my top 10 and on TCM now,The Best Years of Our Lives

Tue, 3/19, 7:00 PM 3 hrs
1946, Drama, Classic, Romance, War
Three American servicemen return to their hometown after World War II to discover that their lives are different, as one struggles to cope with a disability, another finds his family has changed, while the third is stuck in a failing marriage.
Credits: Myrna Loy (Actor), Fredric March (Actor), Dana Andrews (Actor), Teresa Wright (Actor), Virginia Mayo (Actor), Hoagy Carmichael (Actor)
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Post by: gattaca on March 19, 2019, 06:59:17 PM
Another film with a rabid fan base, including me (or, maybe, I'm just sort of rabid). Jane Seymour and Christopher Reeve were about the height of their beauty, and the score is great (Rachmaninoff's "Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini" is perfect as the love theme).

Now I guess I know which film I need to watch this Saturday evening!
^^^ Ditto.  LOVE “Somewhere in Time.” One of my absolute favorites.  I do not recall how many times I’ve seen it.  May be on par with BBM.   I was in HS when the film was release and was probably the only kid who saw it and could appreciate the story.  I have  an original hard copy of “Bid Time Return” which I got shortly after the film was released. It has been outta print for 30-40 years.

There’s a whole club of people around the film.  Much like us here.

I recommend reading the book if you have not.  There are differences between them.

Later, V
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 20, 2019, 10:27:56 AM

Glad to see the affection for "Somewhere in Time."

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 20, 2019, 12:14:55 PM

--Chappaquiddick

This film is about the week that Senator Ted Kennedy had an accident, driving his car off a low bridge where his passenger,
a former female aide to his brother Robert Kennedy, drowned. Your first thought upon seeing the accident unfold and what
happens afterwards is akin to "What were you thinking?" The answer to that never satisfies. Since much of this whole event
played out in a sort of questioning mystery at the time, which happened to occur the week while the moon landing frenzy was
happening, it's hard to suddenly take for face value what happens in the film, but it certainly doesn't make anyone look good in
the matter. Something never mentioned or touched on at all that I'd always thought of from when this happened and something
I must've heard somewhere back then is that some thought Ted Kennedy had gotten this girl pregnant and the accident was a
way to cover it up. No mention of this at all in the film nor even hinted at, which brings up the personal notion of how we learn
things while growing up that are current events at the time, where we might hear one bit of information and not another. The
actor playing Ted Kennedy, Jason Clarke, is quite good at playing both sides of the drama here. As the Time magazine film critic
put it:  "Clarke makes us feel plenty of things we'd rather not. His eyes are shadowed with profound decency one minute, and
hollowed out in desperate calculation the next."

Kate Mara is in this film. She has the thankless role of playing Mary Jo, the drowning victim, a role I can't think anyone would really
have wanted.

It's always interesting to me to watch a movie about a subject that one has only witnessed through the news lens and see how it's
depicted playing out behind the scenes. But also there's the caveat that, as another critic put it, "In the end Chappaquiddick will have
to pass the same test as Kennedy's original version of the story-whether or not anyone will buy it." Frankly, there shouldn't have been
much mystery about this whole event if, as I believe, the people involved had done the right thing from the very start.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 23, 2019, 09:54:46 AM

--Bells Are Ringing

Judy Holliday has the lead in this musical about a phone service (Susanswerphone) where she starts getting involved
in the clients personal lives, trying to help them out. Dean Martin plays her possible love interest. While I liked the film,
it does try to sabotage itself with some plot points that go off mark and some period angst about doing the right thing,
but it's pretty likable. The widescreen photography is impressive in some numbers that show off the countless faces of
film extras and it has a few incredible sets built on the MGM sound stages. The musical highlights include Dean's song
"Just in Time," Judy's song "The Party's Over," and a delightful song at a swanky party where the guests "Drop That
Name."

The Susanswerphone company is headed by Jean Stapleton. In the party scene you can spot a glamorous Donna Douglas
parading around dressed to the nines, a year before she began her decade long run on The Beverly Hillbillies.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 25, 2019, 02:10:07 PM

--Call Me Madam

This is one of Fox's best musicals, based on the stage version, and it stars a never more attractive Ethel Merman, Donald O'Connor, Vera-Ellen and a singing George Sanders!  (Though he is often thought of as British because of the roles he played, did you know he was born in Russia?)

The plot is basically about a wealthy Washington, D.C., socialite, Sally Adams (Ethel Merman), who has cultivated political connections and is appointed U.S. ambassador to the tiny country of Lichtenburg. The inspiration for this character was the real life Washington insider and noted party giver, Perle Mesta.

The film boasts some wonderful Irving Berlin songs, the most notable being "The Hostess with the Mostest" along with "Can You Use Any Money Today," the delightful "It's a Lovely Day Today," "The Ocarina," and my favorite, the beautiful duet "You're Just in Love."  O'Connor also has an unforgettable dance number titled "What Chance Have I for Love,"  where having drunk too much and become tipsy. he dances about a balloon filled restaurant lamenting how he can compete for the affections of his love interest.

A bit of the humor in the film requires knowing President Truman and that he played the piano and that his daughter was embarking on a singing career, but was always getting pretty bad reviews.

I've never seen the stage version, but one always finds out some things that didn't make the cut in films because of the times they were made. There's an officious and pompous character in the film played by Billy De Wolfe and in the stage version there's a line where Merman says "And you're just one of the girls." Censors in the early 50's wouldn't allow it and it was changed to "the boys," though Ethel brilliantly pauses the line reading before she says "boys" which let's one think that anyway.

Also, they had to leave this verse out of The Hostess with the Mostest:

An ambassador has just reached the shore
He's a man of many loves
An important gent from the Orient
To be handled with kid gloves
He can come and let his hair down, ooh!
Have the best time of his life
Even bring his new affair down
Introduce her as his wife
But she mustn't leave her panties in the hall
Of the priestess with the leastest
Nor the hostess with the mostest
With the mostest on the ball.

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 25, 2019, 06:20:21 PM
--Call Me Madam

This is one of Fox's best musicals, based on the stage version, and it stars a never more attractive Ethel Merman, Donald O'Connor, Vera-Ellen and a singing George Sanders!  (Though he is often thought of as British because of the roles he played, did you know he was born in Russia?)

The plot is basically about a wealthy Washington, D.C., socialite, Sally Adams (Ethel Merman), who has cultivated political connections and is appointed U.S. ambassador to the tiny country of Lichtenburg. The inspiration for this character was the real life Washington insider and noted party giver, Perle Mesta.

The film boasts some wonderful Irving Berlin songs, the most notable being "The Hostess with the Mostest" along with "Can You Use Any Money Today," the delightful "It's a Lovely Day Today," "The Ocarina," and my favorite, the beautiful duet "You're Just in Love."  O'Connor also has an unforgettable dance number titled "What Chance Have I for Love,"  where having drunk too much and become tipsy. he dances about a balloon filled restaurant lamenting how he can compete for the affections of his love interest.

A bit of the humor in the film requires knowing President Truman and that he played the piano and that his daughter was embarking on a singing career, but was always getting pretty bad reviews.

I've never seen the stage version, but one always finds out some things that didn't make the cut in films because of the times they were made. There's an officious and pompous character in the film played by Billy De Wolfe and in the stage version there's a line where Merman says "And you're just one of the girls." Censors in the early 50's wouldn't allow it and it was changed to "the boys," though Ethel brilliantly pauses the line reading before she says "boys" which let's one think that anyway.

Lyle, you may find this funny, or even difficult to believe, but in my sophomore year in high school. Call Me Madam was the spring musical (it was spring 1974). I think the director, the head of the music department, chose the shows to fit the voices of his star pupils. The senior who played Sally Adams was no belter like La Merman, but she had a good voice and she was--how to put this delicately--kind of built like a middle-aged woman. ... Our pastor's elder daughter played the ingenue role.

I remember a line or two from "The Hostess with the Mostest," and also "Can You Use Any Money Today." (In the case of "Money," I think maybe it helps to "get it" if you know how, during the Truman years, the U.S. was pouring huge amounts of money into Europe for reconstruction after World War II.) "You're Just in Love" is a lovely song that still makes a nice duet. I actually heard it just recently, but I can't remember where. I'd forgotten the music was Irving Berlin, and also that the show includes "It's a Lovely Day Today."

This'll really get you: Small city in Pennsylvania, 1974, they left in the line I presume exactly how it was originally written: "I'm the madam, and you're just one of the girls!" The line had to be there because I've never forgotten it!
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 26, 2019, 11:04:52 AM

That's great, Jeff!  I don't think I've ever heard of a high school doing Call Me Madam. As you say,
the director knew what he had to work with. I love this! I remember some years ago that Hollywood
High School was doing A Chorus Line. I remember thinking that high schools who want to do that
probably never do the "Tits and Ass" number, but I had read in the paper they did do it, but they
changed the title to "These and Those." LOL!


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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 26, 2019, 11:41:53 AM
As you say, the director knew what he had to work with.

In spring 1976, we did Oklahoma! and Laurie was played by a brunette, so the line "her long yeller hair" in Jud Fry's solo had to be changed to "her long brown hair."

The brunette got another chance her senior year, as Marian the Librarian in The Music Man.

Interesting that in the movie versions, they were both Shirley Jones roles. The brunette had a nice voice, but she wasn't Shirley Jones.

(I'm not trying to protect her identity. In my memory I can still see her, but I can't remember her name to save my life. Same thing with the young woman who played Sally Adams.)
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Post by: Flyboy on March 26, 2019, 05:59:51 PM
Jeff, that happens with AGE!! hahaha.......I have a 10 minute rule to remember names, and I start with the alphabet, true this, and it WORKS, almost every time I can FINALLY come up with name!! try it!!  :o :P :laugh:
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Post by: tfferg on March 26, 2019, 06:59:15 PM
Jeff, that happens with AGE!! hahaha.......I have a 10 minute rule to remember names, and I start with the alphabet, true this, and it WORKS, almost every time I can FINALLY come up with name!! try it!!  :o :P :laugh:

Thanks for the tip. Jonn. I'll try it. (I usually finally remember names hour or even days later. Last week Phong asked me a question about a woman who was very important to me -she died two years ago -, but he mistakenly referred to her as Anne. I couldn't think who he meant. 15 or 20 minutes later it popped into my head - she was Julieanne !)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on March 27, 2019, 10:48:43 AM
Jeff, that happens with AGE!! hahaha.......I have a 10 minute rule to remember names, and I start with the alphabet, true this, and it WORKS, almost every time I can FINALLY come up with name!! try it!!  :o :P :laugh:

Ten minutes is an awfully long time to do that!  Heh!

You mean you start with A then B etc.?

I don't know about doing it this way, but an interesting thing I heard once is that if you're trying to remember a name
and you come up with something at first like "Jules" say and you write down the words your thinking...when you come
up with the name finally and read the words you'll find that your mind was thinking of certain sounds or vowels that are
close and similar but not exact, until you hit it. (Does this make sense?)

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 27, 2019, 11:47:28 AM
I heard once is that if you're trying to remember a name
and you come up with something at first like "Jules" say and you write down the words your thinking...when you come
up with the name finally and read the words you'll find that your mind was thinking of certain sounds or vowels that are
close and similar but not exact, until you hit it. (Does this make sense?)

I think it does. Usually when I finally come up with a name I've had trouble remembering, I'll find that I've been close in some combination of vowels and consonants.
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Post by: Flyboy on March 27, 2019, 01:44:16 PM
It works for me, but sometimes I just try to recall conversations I had with the person and that works too, eventually!! hahaha......... :P :laugh: ;D
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Post by: Gazapete on March 27, 2019, 11:57:58 PM
I have to remember these methods, it also happens to me all the time. It doesn't help that I work in a shop and many times I don't know if I know someone personally or as a client. I'm a mess with names and faces!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on March 30, 2019, 10:38:53 AM
Dial M for Murder (1954)

This was one Hitchcock I'd never seen, until TCM showed it last night. I think it's very much a filmed play, but it's still very cleverly done, almost all on one set--very much like a play. Ray Milland is very good. I would certainly watch it again.

I had two good laughs at this film: two obvious references to Hitchcock's own Strangers on a Train (1951). The first was pretty obvious: Ray Milland's character is a tennis pro, just like Farley Granger's character in SOAT, As for the second, I'm sure I heard Ray Milland say something about two people meeting on a train and planning murders.

I agree with one writer at IMDb: I really can't wrap my mind around the idea of Robert Cummings as Grace Kelly's adulterous lover.

It was fun to recognize Robin Hughes as a police officer; he played Brian O'Bannion in Auntie Mame.
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Post by: tfferg on March 31, 2019, 04:21:43 PM
Yesterday, I saw Le Grand Bal, part of the French Film Festival in Melbourne.

Director Laetitia Carton's film is a documentary filmed in 2016 of the annual dance festival which draws 2000 people every summer to a farming estate in Gennetines in the Auvergne in France. All kinds of people from young people to oldsters go to participate in the week-long festival of traditional and folk dancing.

Folk bands provide the music for the dancing in 8 dance floors in marquees. The dances begin in the evening, but when the marquees close, there are outdoor jams which last till 3 in the morning. After breakfast, people can take part in workshops to learn the dances. Dancers and musicians come from other countries such as Italy and Greece to offer workshops.

The camera immerses us deeply in all kinds of dances ranging from partner dances to circle dances. There are of course the usual man/woman couples, but also woman/woman couples,  mixed foursomes and man/man couples, some very close and intimate. The circle and progressive dances link people closely together regardless of gender.

Laetitia Carton integrates into her documentary film clips from nearly a century ago of pairs of sprightly old men vigorously dancing a complex Auvergnat folk  dance around each other. Formidable!

The film includes participants reflecting on their experiences of the festival, both positive and negative.

For many of the participants who take part every year, it is a reconnection with the communal life that is missing from our stressed individualistic, competitive lifestyles. You can see that for them it is euphoric, even ecstatic. (There was no evidence of drugs.)

It echoed my own experience of Greek folk dancing. The dance scenes are very infectious and I wanted to get up and dance.



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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 03, 2019, 10:40:35 AM

--King of Jazz

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Around 1929-30, each of the major studios tapped into the sound craze and took all of their stars under contract and put them in a variety type movie to show them off.  Most of them were not that good. This little synopsis of Paramount on Parade, for instance, could apply to all of them: "A musical revue that basically has Paramount stars and contract-players doing things some had never done on screen before, and wouldn't again."

LOL!  There is one exception, though, and that's Universal's King of Jazz.  Unfortunately, though, it was the last one to come out and by then the public had had it with these type movies and it lost a bundle of money.

This particular film has gotten a resurrection the past few years, being restored, some theatrical screenings at specialty houses, film festivals and museums. (I saw one at AMPAS's Goldwyn Theater.) There was even a huge coffee table type book written about the film, it's restoration and history.

The film is basically about Paul Whiteman and his orchestra and is done in chapters like you were looking through a scrapbook. Whiteman was a huge name in his day. There are song and dance numbers and they were all staged by a Broadway impresario noted for his lavish productions. The film was shot in the then current new fangled two-strip technicolor process, which means it relies heavily on reds and blues, or shadings thereof. There's some humorous blackouts in between the numbers and some specialty acts like The Rhythm Boys of which Bing Crosby was one of them.

Everyone has their own favorites in any variety show program. In this one, mine is the Rhapsody in Blue number. Paul Whiteman's orchestra was the very first to play Gershwin's famous opus in 1924. In the film it's staged elaborately in a near ten minute sequence featuring a huge piano with the orchestra inside it! If I had to pick a favorite piece of music, it would be Rhapsody in Blue.

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I got the Criterion Collection's Blu-Ray of this film and enjoy it immensely. I've always been a fan of the variety show format, which had it's heyday while I was growing up in the 1960's-70's, and so this movie is like seeing a variety show from 1930. This film and the techniques it employed were way ahead of it's time and I'm glad it's gotten it's due attention after all these years!




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Post by: tfferg on April 03, 2019, 03:12:27 PM
If memory serves and it is a question, Lyle, I think I might have somewhere a 78 record of Paul Whiteman and his band that belonged to my late father. I would like to see the film, especially the performance of Rhapsody in Blue.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 04, 2019, 10:51:02 AM
"Give me a whiskey, ginger ale on the side. And don't be stingy."

Garbo Talks!

Anna Christie, Greta Garbo's first "talkie," on TCM last night.

I'm not familiar with the Silents, except for Buster Keaton's The General, but it seemed to me that her acting (gestures and so forth) was still more suitable for a silent film than for a talking picture.
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Post by: Gazapete on April 06, 2019, 12:28:28 AM
We watched The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus yesterday. It's Terry Gilliam's craziness at its best. Probably not a movie for everyone, but we really liked it. But... Of course there's a but. It was way harder than I thought to watch Heath. This strange longing, dark feeling kept with me through all the movie and I don't think I could watch it as I would have if it was any other movie. No way to be objective about this one. And I also don't think I will watch it again. M really liked it though, he is a Gilliam fan and this movie kind of sums his world up, you can see so much Monty Python in it too. Excellent cast, Tom Waits is a surprise for me and I feel really thankful to Depp, Law and Farrell for honouring Heath as they did.
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Post by: CellarDweller115 on April 06, 2019, 08:34:00 AM
Hello Elena!

I saw IoDP when it was in the theaters.  Really enjoyed it, thought it was fun and surreal.  Like you said, not a film for everyone, and to be honest, if it wasn't for Heath in the film, I probably wouldn't have seen it at all.  I'm glad I did.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 08, 2019, 06:58:46 PM
Moon 44 (1990)

Strictly for fans of young Michael Pare, like, um, me. ...

For a space opera film released in 1990, you would have thought the writers/producers/whoever would have set the story farther in the future than what was then only about 50 years. People were still smoking at the time the story takes place.

Something unusual: A shot of Michael Pare wearing what are supposed to be reading glasses, apparently to use with the books his character brought along to the mining colony on Moon 44.

There is good action at the end, but I found the action at the end of the action a bit confusing. It could of course, just be me. The movie has a  running time of 110 minutes, but I still can't help but wonder if some scenes that might have clarified some things might have ended up on the cutting room floor.

Lisa Eichhorn hasn't got much to do. Her character isn't even a love interest for Michael Pare's character. It seems like somebody decided they just needed a woman character, so they put in her character just to add a woman. Then again, maybe scenes that included her ended up on the cutting room floor.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 09, 2019, 01:50:12 PM
Lisa Eichhorn hasn't got much to do.

P.S.: Here I am rambling again!

I have not seen this film, but in 1979 Lisa Eichhorn burst upon the scene with a small role in the film The Europeans and then in a lead role in John Schlesinger's film YANKS.

I recall back in 1979 seeing this film with a friend in the later months, like November, in one of those multi-screen theaters that was pretty small. We absolutely loved this film and I was sure Lisa Eichhorn was on her way to superstardom from this role. I loved her.

This film seemed to be dismissed in the U.S., though at the time it seemed like a sure bet for award consideration. I don't recall the sentiments of the time or what kind of reviews the film got, but I loved it when I saw it and have ever since. The Golden Globe people did recognize Lisa Eichhorn with two nominations...one for "New Star of the Year", a category they've retired since then (she lost to Bette Midler) and a nomination for Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture - Drama. (She lost to Sally Field.)

In early 1980 I had to visit an ophthalmologist, my first visit at this place, and as I was waiting in the rather crowded room the receptionist was talking to someone and that someone then walked out the door. I wasn't paying much attention to any of this. Then I heard the receptionist say to the person next to her, "Do you know who that was? She's the actress in that movie Yanks."  So, I missed seeing her as I wasn't paying attention, but there you have it!  However, I did get to see her act soon after at the Ahmanson Theatre in downtown Los Angeles in a production of The Hasty Heart.

She was next to appear in a movie that was primed to be a hit and paired with another actor of the moment, Treat Williams. The movie was called The Fabricator. It tested poorly and got terrible reviews and did nothing to help either actor. Maybe to avoid any negative recognition, right before it was to be released the company changed the title of the film to Why Would I Lie?

Her next two efforts also failed to catch fire. Cutter's Way starred Lisa, Jeff Bridges and John Heard. Critic's liked it, but audiences weren't over the moon. Then she was attached to a film called Night People (later changed to All Night Long) with her, Gene Hackman, Diane Ladd and Dennis Quaid. Lisa worked one week on the film and then was apparently fired. I have no idea why and have never found out why.  Strangely, she was replaced by Barbra Streisand in the role. A couple quotes in the IMDB Trivia section of this film don't shed light on the reasons she was fired, but are interesting:

Actress Lisa Eichhorn once said on her being replaced by Barbra Streisand: "I could understand being replaced by Amy Irving or Sissy Spacek. Or someone else of my own age and nature. But Barbra Streisand? I thought All Night Long was some of my best work."

Gene Hackman once said on the casting of Barbra Streisand and the script's re-writing because of this: "The way the part was written, it wasn't that big and would be a waste of her time and talents."

Gene Hackman once commented to newspaper columnist Marilyn Beck about Lisa Eichhorn's replacing: "She's got enough problems, and I've been fired myself. I know how it hurts."

After this time, though, it appears a movie career as a lead actress was out and she never attained stardom. She has continued to work, though. She began doing smaller roles in TV movies and series and smaller parts in films over the years, like The Talented Mr. Ripley. She recently played Rachel McAdams' mother in the film About Time.

It makes her performance in Yanks all the more interesting to me, because of what might have been for her. Because of this role, people assumed at the time, and still might, that she is British. But she was born in Glens Falls, New York, a small town not too far from where I went to college! She did study acting in Britain, however. John Schlesinger cast her in the role thinking she was British, because she had not said anything different, but after she was cast she thought it only right he know and she'd accept the consequences. He thought she was right for the part and the decision stood. A rare instance of an American playing a Brit in a film.

Rachel Roberts plays her mother in Yanks and she won a supporting actress BAFTA award for her performance.

Has anyone else seen this film? When I worked at a movie rental store for nearly 20 years, the employees who worked there who saw the film all liked it and we'd always recommend it. Friends I've shown it to over the years liked it as well, so I never understood why it wasn't that successful.

My first viewing, as I said, was in a smallish theater and I'd always wanted to see it on a big screen. I got my chance one night almost 20 years ago when they showed it at the LACMA museum's Bing Theatre. It was a spectacular print and I was thrilled.

A month or two ago it was released on Blu-Ray by the Twilight Time company, which specializes in putting selected films out each month in limited quantities only of their selected titles. This release's special features are the isolated audio track and also commentary by one of the film's actors and two film historians. I have yet to watch it, I am waiting for the exact moment I'm in the perfect mood for it.

One intriguing thing I read many years ago, but there's probably not much hope for seeing it is this:  "John Schlesinger originally delivered the film at a length of around 165 minutes. He was forced to cut the film by approximately 25 minutes before the film's premiere engagement. The film stayed at this length, 2 hrs. 19 mins., and the 2 hrs. 45 mins. director's cut has never been seen."

NEVER BEEN SEEN!  Since I love the film as I've known it, I don't know if the longer version would be as satisfying, but you know I'd at least like to see that footage which seems unlikely at this point, right, forty years later?!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 09, 2019, 08:22:03 PM
I have not seen this film, but in 1979 Lisa Eichhorn burst upon the scene with a small role in the film The Europeans and then in a lead role in John Schlesinger's film YANKS.

Isn't that the funniest thing, Lyle? I saw The Europeans, but if you hadn't mentioned seeing it in a theater, I would have sworn I'd seen it on Masterpiece Theatre!  :laugh:

I've always remembered it because I adored Lee Remick. Her death saddened me as much as Elizabeth Montgomery's.

I don't remember if you've mentioned how you feel about Westerns, but if you are ever in the mood for a comic Western, I highly recommend The Hallelujah Trail, with Lee Remick, Burt Lancaster, Jim Hutton, Brian Keith, Donald Pleasance, and Pamela Tiffin. I got it for my library because I find it very funny.
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Post by: B.W. on April 10, 2019, 09:25:41 PM
He's also Uncle Billy in It's a Wonderful Life.

If I remember correctly, I read somewhere that Thomas Mitchell, Frank Morgan (The Wizard of Oz), and Barry Fitzgerald (Going My Way) were referred to as Hollywood's Irish Mafia.  :D



I think Thomas Mitchell also played the role of Clopin in RKO Radio Pictures theatrical film adaptation of " The Hunchback of Notre Dame" (1939) with Charles Laughton and Maureen O'Hara.
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Post by: B.W. on April 10, 2019, 09:30:32 PM
I recently watched Paramount Pictures "Clue" (1985). To me, the movie is just so funny and has a lot of camp value.  I really don't understand the negative reaction that film critics had towards it during its theatrical release.  It isn't too hard for me to see why so many moviegoers love it. I know that when it was released in movie theaters, every theater showed a different ending.  Did anyone here get to see it in theaters, if so, what ending did you see?
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 14, 2019, 02:31:18 PM
I haven't seen Clue since it was in theaters and so I really don't remember which ending I saw.
But when it came out for rental they put all three endings on it.
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Post by: gattaca on April 14, 2019, 03:16:43 PM
Saw "Apollo 11" at the IMAX.  If you are a space buff, then this film is a must see.   It's an amazing piece of work which was assembled and digitized with that todd-ao film they uncovered recently in the national archives.  There are sections of the film synced up with the recordings which were just amazing.

From Ebert's site, ""Apollo 11" isn't like other documentaries about the first moon mission. In fact it isn't like most other movies, period. It's magnificent and unique, an adrenaline shot of wonder and skill."

Apollo 11 --> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8760684/
Apollo 11 review --> https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/apollo-11-2019

V.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 15, 2019, 07:32:32 AM
I haven't seen Clue since it was in theaters and so I really don't remember which ending I saw.
But when it came out for rental they put all three endings on it.

I've never even played the game, but it seems to me it's become such a part of culture that even someone like me gets it when it's referred to in some kind of joking situation: "Miss Scarlett in the library with a candlestick," that sort of thing.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 15, 2019, 07:44:03 AM
I was in a good mood Saturday evening, so after dinner I fell back on one of my go-to movies for when I'm in a good mood: Moonstruck. God, I love that movie! What's not to like about a movie whose theme song is Dean Martin singing That's Amore?  :D

Reminds me: The local opera company is doing La Boheme next week.  ;D

(I'll admit there is one thing about this movie that always does give me a moment of sadness and now, I think, really marks it as a "period piece": Since it's mainly set in Brooklyn, you can see the Twin Towers across the river in Manhattan.)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 15, 2019, 10:05:55 AM
Since this past weekend was the Titanic anniversary I revisited both A Night to Remember and the 1997 Titanic films this weekend.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 27, 2019, 03:31:17 PM

--Sunset Boulevard

Anyone who likes the movie Sunset Blvd. watch this video edited to one
of the musical's best songs.

Sunset Blvd. - With One Look (Patti Lupone) - Gloria Swanson montage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDD4_iKe_C4&feature=youtu.be

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on April 27, 2019, 04:35:03 PM
--Sunset Boulevard

Anyone who likes the movie Sunset Blvd. watch this video edited to one
of the musical's best songs.

Sunset Blvd. - With One Look (Patti Lupone) - Gloria Swanson montage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDD4_iKe_C4&feature=youtu.be

"We didn't need words. We had faces!"

That was nice, Lyle. Thanks.  :)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on April 27, 2019, 04:35:53 PM

Glad you enjoyed it!
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Post by: tfferg on April 27, 2019, 05:04:07 PM
I saw Temblores (Tremors) the 2019 feature from Guatemala directed by Jayro Bustamante. Upper class evangelical married Protestant father Pablo has to make a choice between his family and the man he has fallen in love with.

It left me in shock.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 02, 2019, 10:47:11 AM

--A Simple Favor

Has anyone heard of this film? Last weekend my electricity was out for over a day and so
on Saturday when a friend invited me over to watch a movie (and have dinner!) I readily
accepted. We watched this film that was released last year.

It's a movie that some will like and some won't, but if you like it, I think you'll really like it.
The problem to convince people to watch it is that you really should not know very much about
it beforehand at all.

So, I found this synopsis that I'll offer because it tells you something, but not much at all!  Heh!

A SIMPLE FAVOR, is a stylish post-modern film noir directed by Paul Feig, that centers around Stephanie
(Anna Kendrick), a mommy blogger who seeks to uncover the truth behind her best friend Emily's (Blake
Lively) sudden disappearance from their small town. Stephanie is joined by Emily's husband Sean (Henry
Golding) in this thriller. Andrew Rannell's joins them in a supporting role.

Rotten Tomatoes Critics concensus: Twisty, twisted, and above all simply fun; a stylish mommy noir spell
strengthened by potent performances.
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Post by: Gazapete on May 02, 2019, 11:02:13 AM
I saw Temblores (Tremors) the 2019 feature from Guatemala directed by Jayro Bustamante. Upper class evangelical married Protestant father Pablo has to make a choice between his family and the man he has fallen in love with.

It left me in shock.

Positive or negative "in shock"?
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 02, 2019, 11:11:23 AM

--Wait for the Laugh

This is a very recent documentary about the life of Rose Marie, who most people know from her
character Sally Rogers on The Dick Van Dyke Show.

The film is fantastically entertaining, featuring many of the most influential people involved in her life,
like Carl Reiner, Peter Marshall, Tim Conway and Dick Van Dyke.

She was a radio star by the time she was 4 years old. People didn't know she was 4 years old because
her voice was like that of an adult! Known as Baby Rose Marie, her father got involved with gangsters
like Al Capone, who wanted to meet her. She worked in vaudeville where she met Evelyn Nesbitt!

In the nightclub days it seems many entertainers were involved with gangsters. Over time when the
entertainers talked of them they were very complimentary. Because they were treated so well and
weren't aware, or didn't want to be aware, of the deeds they were doing behind the scenes. When Rose
Marie was older and living on the west coast, she was involved with gangster Bugsy Siegel who hired her
to perform in one of the first Las Vegas hotels in the late 40's, the Flamingo.

She, of course, gravitated to television and performed on stage into the 90's.

The film is highly entertaining.  Rose Marie tells her story throughout herself and the film stays on course
with narration from her friend Peter Marshall. There was never a time it seemed that Rose Marie didn't have
a color home movie camera with her and there are many fascinating films of her life in the 1940's, including
footage of what the Las Vegas strip looked like during that era.

When she started working in television she took a home movie camera to practically every job she had and
there are color films of the behind the scenes of the programs she worked on which included Gunsmoke, The
Dick Van Dyke Show, The Monkees, The Doris Day Show and The Hollywood Squares.

I watched a NetFlix rental of it and on the DVD were extras, such as the entire 40 minute Q&A they had when
the film was showcased at the Cinematheque's Aero Theatre in West Los Angeles. Besides the director and his
wife, the assembled participants were Rose Marie, Peter Marshall, Dick Van Dyke, Tim Conway and Carl Reiner.

There are some additional home movie segments, an appearance with Groucho Marx on The Hollywood Palace,
though the DVD incorrectly says it's from The Groucho Marx Show. There is a making of documentary on it which
is also fascinating and some deleted segments from the film, one of which is a phone call Rose Marie makes to
Doris Day and they chat a few minutes. Not about anything really important, but it is still quite fascinating. The
director also does a commentary track on the whole thing.

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 02, 2019, 11:14:05 AM

A personal recollection...in the early 1990's I attended a production of Roger & Hammerstein's Cinderella musical at the Pantages Theatre in Hollywood. The King & Queen were played by Steve Allen and his wife Jane Meadows...or was his wife Audrey Meadows...I'm never sure?  The fairy godmother was played by Rose Marie!

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Post by: morrobay on May 02, 2019, 12:30:49 PM
Sundance channel is having Slugger Sunday this week...I love Field of Dreams and League of Their Own

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Post by: tfferg on May 02, 2019, 04:43:39 PM
Positive or negative "in shock"?

It is a tragedy, Elena, though nobody dies. It shows, without editorialising, the way religious homophobia ruins lives.  The story is fictional, but it is based on what the director learnt from talking with many homosexual men, most of whom were closeted heterosexually married and lying to their families and from his own aborted participation in a church-run "reparative therapy" program.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 04, 2019, 12:28:06 PM
I've been home sick since the middle of the week, so in the middle of yesterday afternoon, I turned on TCM just to see what was showing. I was just in time to catch a movie I'd never heard of, The Southerner, about a poor sharecropper who tries to get his own farm to make a better life for his family. Turns out the movie was directed by Jean Renoir, and the Wikipedia article about him says the movie "is often regarded as his best American film." The other thing that interested me about this movie is that the leading character was played by Zachary Scott. I knew him only as the sleazy Monte Beragon in Mildred Pierce, but he was actually quite good in his role in this film.

(It must have been Beulah Bondi Afternoon at TCM.  :D  In The Southerner, she played a cranky, cantankerous, thoroughly unlikable old woman [she reminded me of Granny Clampett without being funny]--she was quite good at it. The Southerner was followed up by two other films with her in them, but I don't remember the titles. Nowadays I guess she is best known as Jimmy Stewart's mother in It's a Wonderful Life.)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 04, 2019, 01:29:30 PM

--The Highwaymen

This film stars Kevin Costner, Woody Harrelson and Kathy Bates. (Did you know Texas had a woman Governor in the 1930's? That's who Kathy Bates plays.)

This movie is about the two men (Texas Rangers) who tracked down and ultimately caught Bonnie & Clyde. Costner plays Frank Hamer, who was played by Denver Pyle in the 1967 film. It's a deliberately paced character study of the two men and how they tracked them down. Bonnie & Clyde are more like the shark in Jaws in this film, they are below the surface and have you wondering where they are in between some of their very brutal actions, which are more brutal to the viewer if you're used to the fantastic 1967 film, where the two are obviously played more sympathetically.

It's a great companion piece to the 1967 film and I'd recommend it if you have an interest in the subject matter. The period detail is quite flawless and it's nicely directed.

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 04, 2019, 07:47:08 PM
Marty

On TCM this evening. I've always heard that this is a wonderful little movie, and I completely agree with that assessment. Some of the dialog seemed a little "stagey" to me, but that didn't bother me.

If you, as I did, grew up watching Ernest Borgnine in reruns of McHale's Navy, or in guest roles playing a "big lug" type of character, it was so wonderful to see him as a nice, sensitive guy.
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Post by: gattaca on May 05, 2019, 09:15:16 AM
--The Highwaymen
It's a great companion piece to the 1967 film and I'd recommend it if you have an interest in the subject matter. The period detail is quite flawless and it's nicely directed.

Thanks for the recommendation!  I've been a big Coster fan since his early days doing "Field of Dreams" "The Untouchables" and especially "Bull Durham" "Hidden Figures" was pretty good too.  He's delivered some duds as "Water World" always comes to mind. This one looked interesting.   8)  V.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 05, 2019, 10:31:32 AM
Marty

"Whatta you wanna do tonight Marty?"

"I dunno, whatta you wanna do?"

Marty has a couple interesting Oscar trivia notes.

--It's the only film to win Best Picture that originated from a television production.  (Rod Steiger played the role in that one.)

--It's the only film that won the Cannes Film Festival Best Film prize and the Academy Award for Best Film.

--It's the shortest (running time) film to ever have won Best Picture.

Ernest Borgnine sure had some bragging rights to his Best Actor win for that film.  He was up against,
James Cagney, James Dean, Frank Sinatra and Spencer Tracy.

When AMPAS had their Best Picture screening series for their 75th Anniversary, Ernest Borgnine was a
guest when they showed this film and so I saw the film with Ernest Borgnine in the audience.

However, I still hold a grudge against him for his unfortunate homophobic remarks about Brokeback Mountain
the night of the Oscars debacle that year.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 05, 2019, 01:54:09 PM
--It's the only film that won the Cannes Film Festival Best Film prize and the Academy Award for Best Film.

Marty was shown as part of TCM's "Essentials" series. Guest host, along with Ben Mankiewicz, was Ava DuVernay, and she chose the film. They mentioned about the Cannes win as well as the Oscar.

They followed Marty with A Catered Affair. I'd seen that before, and to me it's notable for what I consider uncharacteristic roles for both Debbie Reynolds and Rod Taylor. Mankiewicz mentioned that even though Bette Davis was in the picture, the advertising stressed Borgnine and Paddy Chayevsky because of the Oscar wins.

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When AMPAS had their Best Picture screening series for their 75th Anniversary, Ernest Borgnine was a
guest when they showed this film and so I saw the film with Ernest Borgnine in the audience.

However, I still hold a grudge against him for his unfortunate homophobic remarks about Brokeback Mountain
the night of the Oscars debacle that year.

Either I didn't know that, or I've forgotten. There were so many. ...

I wonder if the TV play with Rod Steiger was recorded in any way? Marty really seems to me an uncharacteristic role for him. It would be very interesting to see him in it.

I liked the way the end credits were done, with pictures of the actors with their names. Too bad they don't do that anymore.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 06, 2019, 09:23:43 AM
The Miracle Worker.

Yesterday afternoon, I turned on the TV just to see what was playing on TCM. I don't remember what time it was, so I don't know how much of the beginning I missed. I came in just as Annie Sullivan (Anne Bancroft) was boarding the train to travel to the Kellers'. I'd never seen this movie before, so I figured there was no time like the present to watch it, even if I missed the beginning.

I don't wonder that Anne Bancroft and Patty Duke both received Academy Awards for this film. They were both amazing, but I was absolutely floored by Patty Duke's performance. The dining room sequence alone has to be one of the most astonishing scenes I've seen in a movie. It was also painful to watch; it seemed like it was never going to end. IIRC, the host (a woman I did not know) said it took five days to film that one scene. I was not surprised to learn that when shooting was over, Bancroft ended up in the hospital with pneumonia. Making that movie must have been utterly exhausting.

I hope some day I can see it again from the beginning.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 06, 2019, 11:23:57 AM
Marty was shown as part of TCM's "Essentials" series. Guest host, along with Ben Mankiewicz, was Ava DuVernay, and she chose the film. They mentioned about the Cannes win as well as the Oscar.

After the Borgnine BBM comments, I wrote an outline for a gay version of Marty. If anyone were to remake it...

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I wonder if the TV play with Rod Steiger was recorded in any way? Marty really seems to me an uncharacteristic role for him. It would be very interesting to see him in it.

Yes, it was, the video store where I worked had it on VHS. It was an hour long production. There was another hour long drama also on the VHS, but I don't recall what that one was.

Marty is a 1953 teleplay by Paddy Chayefsky. It was telecast live May 24, 1953, on The Philco Television Playhouse with Rod Steiger in the title role and Nancy Marchand, in her television debut, playing opposite him as Clara. Joe Mantell, who was Oscar nominated for his role as Angie in the movie, also appears in the television version. The movie's director, Delbert Mann, also directed the TV version.

SURPRISE: And you can watch it on youtube! (51 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kL2afMZ9SQ

They followed Marty with A Catered Affair. I'd seen that before, and to me it's notable for what I consider uncharacteristic roles for both Debbie Reynolds and Rod Taylor. Mankiewicz mentioned that even though Bette Davis was in the picture, the advertising stressed Borgnine and Paddy Chayevsky because of the Oscar wins.

Yes, A Catered Affair was also a television play written by Paddy Chayefsky, but in this case Gore Vidal did the movie screenplay adaptation. Did you watch the film this time?  The TV version had Thelma Ritter in the Bette Davis role.

The actor who played Debbie Reynolds brother in the film (Borgnine and Davis' son) was Ray Stricklyn, who was gay. About 20 years ago he wrote his autobiography titled Angels & Demons, which I read. He said the director of A Catered Affair, Richard Brooks, really picked on Debbie Reynolds throughout the filming.

He talked about being summoned to Brooks' office for a casting interview and after chatting awhile Brooks said to him, "Yes, you could be Debbie's brother. You're cast." Ray wrote: As I was happily leaving his office, he added, "The only problem is you're prettier than Debbie."

In that book Stricklyn talks about picking guys up on Hollywood Blvd. and taking them to his home. During his time in New York he recalled that he and other gay guys he knew who were cast in live television productions as background players, would always try to see who could get an erection during their scenes and their friends at home watching would grade their efforts. (Heh!) He had a makeout session one time in Central Park with James Dean. On a train ride with other actors (including, among others, Tab Hunter, Maureen O'Hara, Forrest Tucker, Nick Adams, Tom Tryon, Yvonne DeCarlo and Richard Egan) riding down to Los Angeles from Santa Barbara after a movie premiere and party he witnessed in one of the rail cars this scene, which I copy from the book: "A young male movie fan, obviously gay, had sneaked onto the train and, apparently, was a big fan of Mr. Tucker's. He kept standing in the aisle staring at Forrest Tucker. Finally, the half-inebriated Tucker said, "All right, I know what you want!" At which point he unzipped his pants, whipping out his cock. "See," he said, "it's as big as has been rumored."  I moved up the aisle to my mother, who had witnessed the happening, and whispered, "I think you'd better move." She replied, "Oh no, dear, I'm having a perfectly fascinating time."

I liked the way the end credits were done, with pictures of the actors with their names. Too bad they don't do that anymore.

I like things like that, too. Even opening credit sequences are all too rare nowadays. Many movies now just seem to start and you're lucky if they even show the title of the film.

Back in the 1990's AMPAS voted on several proposals for additional Oscar categories.  If I recall, a couple of them were for stunt work and casting, but one of them was for credit sequences. All of the proposals were voted down, but I reckon if they had approved an Oscar category for credit sequences, you'd find that movies would now have more and more of them! (I'd like that, there's nothing like a good credit sequence!)  I remember a Keanu Reeves  movie from long ago where, except for the title, the opening credits were read by a 1930's type announcer voice reciting the credits over a radio.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 06, 2019, 05:11:13 PM
Yes, it was, the video store where I worked had it on VHS. It was an hour long production. There was another hour long drama also on the VHS, but I don't recall what that one was.

Marty is a 1953 teleplay by Paddy Chayefsky. It was telecast live May 24, 1953, on The Philco Television Playhouse with Rod Steiger in the title role and Nancy Marchand, in her television debut, playing opposite him as Clara. Joe Mantell, who was Oscar nominated for his role as Angie in the movie, also appears in the television version. The movie's director, Delbert Mann, also directed the TV version.

SURPRISE: And you can watch it on youtube! (51 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kL2afMZ9SQ

Thanks, Lyle. If I lose track of the link, I guess I can find it by searching for it, now that I know it exists.

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Yes, A Catered Affair was also a television play written by Paddy Chayefsky, but in this case Gore Vidal did the movie screenplay adaptation.

I noticed that.

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Did you watch the film this time?  The TV version had Thelma Ritter in the Bette Davis role.

Yes, I did watch it again.

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The actor who played Debbie Reynolds brother in the film (Borgnine and Davis' son) was Ray Stricklyn, who was gay.

I gave him a quick look-up at IMDb. He had quite a lengthy career.

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He talked about being summoned to Brooks' office for a casting interview and after chatting awhile Brooks said to him, "Yes, you could be Debbie's brother. You're cast." Ray wrote: As I was happily leaving his office, he added, "The only problem is you're prettier than Debbie."

 ;D  Too bad he doesn't have more or longer scenes in the film.

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 07, 2019, 12:26:58 PM
^^^

Did you know that there was a Broadway Musical of A Catered Affair that premiered in 2007?

"A Catered Affair is a musical with a book by Harvey Fierstein and music and lyrics by John Bucchino. It is based on both the 1956 film and the original 1955 teleplay by Paddy Chayefsky, set in 1953 in the Bronx."

Tom Wopat was in it and also received a Tony nomination for it.

The CD cast recording of it:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7c/Catered_affair.jpg/220px-Catered_affair.jpg)
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 07, 2019, 02:29:03 PM
^^^

Did you know that there was a Broadway Musical of A Catered Affair that premiered in 2007?


It might have been listed in the New Yorker theater section, but I don't remember it.

I guess Harvey Fierstein played the Bette Davis part?  ;D
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Post by: B.W. on May 07, 2019, 07:04:48 PM
The Miracle Worker.

Yesterday afternoon, I turned on the TV just to see what was playing on TCM. I don't remember what time it was, so I don't know how much of the beginning I missed. I came in just as Annie Sullivan (Anne Bancroft) was boarding the train to travel to the Kellers'. I'd never seen this movie before, so I figured there was no time like the present to watch it, even if I missed the beginning.

I don't wonder that Anne Bancroft and Patty Duke both received Academy Awards for this film. They were both amazing, but I was absolutely floored by Patty Duke's performance. The dining room sequence alone has to be one of the most astonishing scenes I've seen in a movie. It was also painful to watch; it seemed like it was never going to end. IIRC, the host (a woman I did not know) said it took five days to film that one scene. I was not surprised to learn that when shooting was over, Bancroft ended up in the hospital with pneumonia. Making that movie must have been utterly exhausting.

I hope some day I can see it again from the beginning.





A very good movie, I've read the play as well, that is pretty good too. 
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Post by: B.W. on May 07, 2019, 07:40:11 PM
Since this past weekend was the Titanic anniversary I revisited both A Night to Remember and the 1997 Titanic films this weekend.



Disney's "Avengers: Endgame" (2019) just surpassed James Cameron's "Titanic" (1997) as the second highest-grossing theatrical film of all time worldwide in cinematic history.  Perhaps "Avengers:  Endgame" will surpass James Cameron's science-fiction movie "Avatar" (2009) to become the highest-grossing theatrical film off all time worldwide in cinematic history, that would be the first time that a sequel would achieve this record.  I am a little sad that James Cameron's "Titanic" has now been moved down to become the third highest-grossing theatrical film of all time worldwide in cinematic history, but I still love the movie anyway.  It never gets old to me no matter how many times I have seen it.  The story of the real Titanic disaster is every bit as fascinating as Cameron's film in my opinion.



 The British theatrical film "A Night to Remember" (1958) is very well-made and I can appreciate the level of historical accuracy that it has as I said before.  Its too bad that more theatrical movies based on historical persons, events or places aren't made like that.   "A Night to Remember" isn't entirely historically accurate in every aspect, but the level of historical accuracy that is depicted in the movie is most definitely impressive and is something that seems to be rarely seen in films.   20th Century Fox's theatrical film "Titanic" (1953) with Barbara Stanwyck and Clifton Webb is good, although it is not very historically accurate. That film was too short in my opinion, but I still like it.  James Cameron's "Titanic" isn't entirely historically accurate either, but I don't think that it was intended to be.  I do think that the cast and crew members who worked on Cameron's film tried to make it as historically accurate as possible within the confines of what they were able to do and with what information was available about the real event at the time the film was being shot.





James Cameron's "Titanic" (1997) hopefully inspired more people from around the world to learn about the story of the real Titanic.  The movie made the already talented Leonardo DiCaprio into an international mega-superstar and certainly helped further Kate Winslet's very promising career.  I don't really understand why so many people dislike the film no matter what reasons they give, but of course I don't expect every to like it.  Not every does like it and not everyone will like it.  People like what movies they like.  I don't really understand why so many people hate the "My Heart Will Go On" (1997) theme song to "Titanic" by Celine Dion either.  I think that the song compliments the themes in the film so well.   Again, different things appeal to different people.
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Post by: B.W. on May 07, 2019, 07:52:17 PM
Marty was shown as part of TCM's "Essentials" series. Guest host, along with Ben Mankiewicz, was Ava DuVernay, and she chose the film. They mentioned about the Cannes win as well as the Oscar.

They followed Marty with A Catered Affair. I'd seen that before, and to me it's notable for what I consider uncharacteristic roles for both Debbie Reynolds and Rod Taylor. Mankiewicz mentioned that even though Bette Davis was in the picture, the advertising stressed Borgnine and Paddy Chayevsky because of the Oscar wins.

Either I didn't know that, or I've forgotten. There were so many. ...

I wonder if the TV play with Rod Steiger was recorded in any way? Marty really seems to me an uncharacteristic role for him. It would be very interesting to see him in it.

I liked the way the end credits were done, with pictures of the actors with their names. Too bad they don't do that anymore.




 At the time Ernest Borgnine made those negative remarks about Ang Lee's "Brokeback Mountain" (2005) during the movie's theatrical release, I didn't take his words too seriously because he didn't see the film.  I still don't take what he said too seriously.  I think what he said about the film is even more irrelevant now.  Keep in mind, the homophobia behind his comments did upset me and it still ticks me off.  If he had seen the film and just didn't like it, that wouldn't have bothered me at all.  The image of the cowboy should be subject to different interpretations.  I liked how "Brokeback Mountain" portrayed them as just everyday people trying to get by in life and not as gun-slinging heroes who fight off the "savage" Native Americans or rescue the pretty woman from being run over by a train. 



The earliest cowboys were of Hispanic descent or were black men, I believe.  I cannot imagine too many racists or white supremacists being happy with that.  I've only seen snippets of scenes from the movie, but Quentin Tarantino's "Django Unchained" (2012) probably enraged a lot of white people who are bigots and lovers of the Western genre seeing a strong black male slave character kicking the behinds of those white persons who have wronged him.
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Post by: B.W. on May 07, 2019, 08:02:33 PM
--The Highwaymen

This film stars Kevin Costner, Woody Harrelson and Kathy Bates. (Did you know Texas had a woman Governor in the 1930's? That's who Kathy Bates plays.)

This movie is about the two men (Texas Rangers) who tracked down and ultimately caught Bonnie & Clyde. Costner plays Frank Hamer, who was played by Denver Pyle in the 1967 film. It's a deliberately paced character study of the two men and how they tracked them down. Bonnie & Clyde are more like the shark in Jaws in this film, they are below the surface and have you wondering where they are in between some of their very brutal actions, which are more brutal to the viewer if you're used to the fantastic 1967 film, where the two are obviously played more sympathetically.

It's a great companion piece to the 1967 film and I'd recommend it if you have an interest in the subject matter. The period detail is quite flawless and it's nicely directed.


This sounds interesting.  I like the "Bonnie and Clyde" (1967) film and I love Kathy Bates as an actress, she never fails to give a good performance to me.
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Post by: oilgun on May 07, 2019, 08:12:18 PM
High Life, French director Claire Denis' first English language film. It stars Robert Pattinson and Juliette Binoche. It's a bizarre SiFi film that is not for everyone but I really enjoyed it. Great cinematography and Pattinson is excellent. I'm a big fan of Claire Denis' work.
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Post by: killersmom on May 07, 2019, 09:50:17 PM
I've just seen the advertisement on TCM for the "Never Surrender - WWII in the Movies. It's 75 films honoring the 75th anniversary of D-Day. Thursdays at 8 PM ET in May and June. I am going to have to look at the schedules.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 08, 2019, 07:37:58 AM
I've just seen the advertisement on TCM for the "Never Surrender - WWII in the Movies. It's 75 films honoring the 75th anniversary of D-Day. Thursdays at 8 PM ET in May and June. I am going to have to look at the schedules.

I've been seeing the ads for that, and it occurs to me now to try to find out if they're showing Cecil B. DeMille's Union Pacific (1939) on Friday--150th anniversary of the completion of the first transcontinental railroad on May 10, 1869.

I have that movie on VHS tape but no way to watch it. I've never gotten around to trying to find it on DVD.

It's a good Western, with Joel McCrea (always handsome), Barbara Stanwyck, and Robert Preston.

Of course, I won't skip Blue Bloods for it. ...  :D

Fun fact: DeMille made a Union Pacific as a silent; this one is a remake as a talkie, another product of that unbelievable movie year of 1939.
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Post by: Sara B on May 08, 2019, 02:24:13 PM
I was glad I went to Tolkien. It wasn’t amazing, but mostly enjoyable and interesting. I think my only criticism was that it kept on cutting forward - and back - to Tolkien’s experiences in WWI, of course important and well (horriblyj portrayed, but overdone imo, and I would have preferred more about how he adjusted back to civilian life.

Beautifully filmed scenes of the countryside and Edwardian interiors, and I liked Nicholas Hoult.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 08, 2019, 02:36:53 PM
At the time Ernest Borgnine made those negative remarks about Ang Lee's "Brokeback Mountain" (2005) during the movie's theatrical release, I didn't take his words too seriously because he didn't see the film.

That was the point though.  Several publicized AMPAS members WHO VOTED said they didn't see Brokeback Mountain, or worse, said they didn't want to.

#1.) Have you EVER heard at any other period in Oscar history of members specifically dissing a film like that. Saying they wouldn't see it? In public. Imagine if people said they refused to see Schindler's List, for example. Most AMPAS members are particularly mum when it comes to their actual opinions of films, not wanting to offend people they might work with etc.  In this case they were public about it.  AMPAS' official line is that if one hadn't seen all five nominees in a category they are directed not to vote in the category.  Right.

2.) At the time there were several high profile AMAPS voters who said they hadn't seen the film, wouldn't, or didn't care to, including Clint Eastwood, Ernest Borgnine, Tony Curtis, Samuel L. Jackson, Mark Wahlberg and Sarah Jessica Parker.
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Post by: Flyboy on May 08, 2019, 05:04:22 PM
High Life, French director Clair Denis' first English language film. It stars Robert Pattinson and Juliette Binoche. It's a bizarre SiFi film that is not for everyone but I really enjoyed it. Great cinematography and Pattinson is excellent. I'm a big fan of Clair Denis' work.
Two great actors!!  ;D
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on May 09, 2019, 01:08:11 AM

I love Claire Denise's output too.

Her movies are always a bit on the weird side - but more often than not fascinating!
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 11, 2019, 04:28:07 PM

--Bad Times at the El Royale

This film stars Jeff Bridges, Jon Hamm, Bryce Dallas Howard, Nick Offerman and Chris Hemsworth.

I didn't know a whole lot about this film, but enough that I wanted to see it. I'm probably going to write quite a bit about my reaction to the film, but not give anything away, because, well, here goes:

After I watched it I looked it up on Rotten Tomatoes and it has a healthy 75% fresh rating, but when you read a lot of the review quotes you see that even though they give it a fresh rating most reviewers have a complaint or two about it. Me, too. I really wanted to love this movie and have a great sense of affection for it, but it didn't quite reach that point, though I don't want to admit it, either.

I think if I had to submit a review for this film I'd also want to give it that thumbs up, despite some things.  Let's put it this way. If Quentin Tarantino had written and directed this film it would be a whole lot better. But he didn't.

It's one of those kinds of films that you start watching and there's a lot of characters introduced and things start happening, but the audience doesn't know what's happening and you hope that after awhile you can start piecing things together and become more and more engaged.

One of the issues in this regard is that it starts telling a story with one specific character and the other peripheral characters, then it switches to another character and you see things play out from a different angle or point of view. It's not confusing, but because one isn't sure what's happening initially, it takes more time to move along.

I was still with the film big time into the second hour, but you slowly kind of realize that the director isn't so much interested in moving his story along. Somehow it goes off the track, but you aren't sure why. I guess I agree with one of the reviewers who wrote: "The film isn't interested in answering any questions, at least not in a deliberate fashion, and it weighs on the audience after two hours."

The last third of the movie Chris Hemsworth appears and looks as sexy as he's ever been on film except that his character is a Charles Manson type and so that appeal is completely annoying because you want to feel that, but not for this guy.

The primary set of this movie, both interior and exterior, is brilliant. I'd have given it an Oscar nomination. It's filled with joyous looks into it's nooks and crannies that often delight. In fact, there's a slideshow as an extra of about 40 photos all looking around the interior set.

The movie is 2 hours and 21 minutes and normally you might say it could've been trimmed 30 or 40 minutes and been better, but I think this film would've been a whole lot worse if it was any shorter. The running time wasn't a problem.

Every individual has some different taste so some might like this more than I did and some much less, but all day I've still been thinking about that film. Maybe because I liked it, but I am not satisfied with it. A conflict of emotions.

I think one should CHECK IN. It's worth a stay, even if the accommodations are not particularly deluxe.
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Post by: oilgun on May 12, 2019, 03:34:19 PM
Woman at War - (2019- Iceland) D: Benedikt Erlingsson

What a wonderful film thanks in large part to actor Halldóra Geirharðsdóttir's amazing performance. She's like Iceland's Frances McDormand. A timely and thought provoking film.

A thoughtful and dynamic blend of genres, Benedikt Erlingsson’s contemporary environmental fable “Woman At War” continually thrills with a side of laughs. In its most endearing moments, Erlingsson’s idiosyncratic sophomore feature is as rebellious and confident as the main heroine it follows through vast and damp Icelandic landscapes. She is Halla (the defiant Halldóra Geirharðsdóttir, excelling in a physically demanding role), a beloved, single choir director in her early fifties, living a secret double-life as a green activist when no one is looking. Cutting power lines to sabotage a local aluminum plant in her spare time, Halla mostly operates alone in her heroic yet elaborate quests. In the film’s breathtaking opening sequence, shot and edited in the heart-pounding tradition of cat-and-mouse thrillers (by Bergsteinn Björgúlfsson and David Alexander Corno, respectively), she runs from helicopters and drones, hides in natural cracks of the earth and finds refuge in the home of a local greenhouse farmer (Jón Jóhannsson), who lends her a runaway vehicle and becomes her unofficial accomplice.
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https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/woman-at-war-2019
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Post by: tfferg on May 12, 2019, 08:24:36 PM
Top End Wedding (2019)

Beautiful, exuberant Australian Aboriginal actor, Miranda Tapsell, has co-written with Josh Tyler, co-produced and starred in this pacy rom-com set in the Top end, the north of the Northern Territory. I first saw her in the wonderful The Sapphires directed by Wayne Blair who is the director of this film too.

Miranda Tapsell plays the role of Lauren Ford who has just been made associate of an Adelaide corporate law firm. That evening, her boyfriend, English prosecutor Ned (Gwilym Lee who played Brian May in Bohemian Rhapsody) proposes though he doesn't get round to telling her he has just given up his legal career. Lauren insists on her dream wedding taking place in Darwin with the participation of her parents. Her dominating ice-queen boss Hampton (Kerry Fox) allows her 10 days unpaid leave.

When Laura and Ned arrive in Darwin, they find her white father Trevor (Huw Higginson) a blubbering mess shutting himself in the pantry with Chicago's 'If You Leave Me Now' because her mother Daffy (Ursula Yovich) has left him and disappeared.

The film becomes a comic road movie as Lauren and Ned leave Trevor and the very funny over-the-top bridesmaids (Shari Stebbens, Elaine Crombie and Dalara Williams) and an unexpected figure in Darwin to organise the wedding while they set off to find Daffy. With romantic moments, comic mishaps and some drama, they drive through the stunning landscapes of Arnhem Land, Kakadu National Park and Nitmiluk (Katherine Gorge), beautifully photographed by Eric Murray Lui. They encounter several eccentric NT characters. Eventually with a hint from a seemingly uncommunicative woman who has been with Daffy, Lauren realises where she has gone and flies to the offshore Tiwi Islands north of Darwin.

Daffy's family who she has never, because of her guilty feelings, taken Lauren to meet live there on their country. In this third act, the film comes to its real point, which makes it more than an ordinary rom-com - the vital, central importance of country for Indigenous Australians. Country also means family and Ned and Trevor are both joyfully included.

I showed Phong the trailer, but it didn't appeal to him. I had doubts about another heterosexual rom-com until I read a mention of its LGBTI inclusivity which piqued my curiosity.

Although the film includes most of the predictable standard elements of the rom-com genre, there is no gay best friend.

When she arrives alone at tiny Nguiu airport, Lauren is at a loss until she is swept up by Flossy (gay Tiwi playwright Jason De Santis), a burly figure in a hi-viz vest, overalls and dangling rainbow pride earrings. As he drives her into town, he is greeted affectionately by many locals. He gives her a guided tour and points out a group of sistergirls (Tiwi transgender women).

Top End Wedding is light hearted all the way through. It doesn't touch on issues of racism or the gap in life chances between Indigenous people and other Australians. The Tiwi scenes include some genuinely very, very touching moments without becoming Hallmarkish.

The cast includes many well-known Aboriginal actors (including the handsome Rob Collins as the priest) and many Tiwi extras including the elderly aunties and the grandmother who draws the formerly lost Daffy into their traditional totemic dance.

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 13, 2019, 07:36:38 AM
In honor of Mother's Day, TCM showed I Remember Mama (1948) last night. This is really a lovely movie. The great Irene Dunne is, well, great in the title role, with a very young Barbara Bel Geddes as the oldest daughter/narrator. I think heartwarming is an overused term, and it often makes me want to gag, but I can't think of anything else to describe this movie. I think it's held up well, too.

I'm guessing TCM will show Life With Father (1947) on Father's Day next month. That's a very nice light comedy, with William Powell as the father, Irene Dunn once again as the mother. The supporting cast is amazing: Elizabeth Taylor, Martin Milner, Jimmy Lydon, Zasu Pitts, Edmund Gwenn, Arlene Dahl (uncredited), even Clara Blandick ("Aunt Em"). Another uncredited actor is a woman named Amzie Strickland. I think she's one of those performers whose face you recognize even if you don't know her name; she played supporting roles in just about everything (exaggerating) from 1937 to 2001.
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Post by: killersmom on May 13, 2019, 11:46:45 AM
Doris Day, Screen Legend And Animal Rights Activist, Dead At 97

Doris Day has died at age 97, her foundation said Monday.

The legendary actress died at her Carmel Valley, California, home surrounded by close friends. Day “had been in excellent physical health for her age, until recently contracting a serious case of pneumonia,” the foundation said in a statement to The Associated Press.


https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_56670caee4b08e945ff101fe
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 13, 2019, 12:38:37 PM

I am so sad with the news of Doris Day.  A lot of us online people for over a decade have been trying to get AMPAS to honor her with an honorary Oscar or the Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award for her tireless work in behalf of helping animals of all kinds.

For whatever reason, they would not do it. I wrote to Randy Haberkamp once about this. He's the guy who works for AMPAS and hosts many of the movie series they have at the Academy, among other things, he even attended our BBM party at Ken & Robert's home in 2008 before the screening, and he indicated he'd been subtly trying to shame them into it for years.

It became such a thing that every fall when AMPAS announced who WAS getting the Honorary Oscars that half the articles the next day every year were titled: "Doris Day Snubbed Again."

So I dreaded this day would happen.  Another instance of AMPAS doing the wrong thing.  And now they cannot right this wrong. Heck, they'll probably forget to include her in the remembrance segment next time.
___

Besides that, I love Doris Day. Somehow in the late 60's she became a symbol of being a goody two-shoes and someone to mock. But she kept working and ignored all that.  It was unfair, too, her movie work was never all one thing. She did dramatic roles with the best of them. Anyone ever see Julie where she plays a stewardess being stalked by a former lover and she single handedly has to land a passenger plane?  Or the suspenseful Midnight Lace?
Heck, she even had a rather long affair, which she never denied, with Maury Wills, an African American Dodgers shortstop!

Yet, the “official” top female domestic box office draw of the 1950's and ’60's who kept patrons going to the movies, never was honored by AMPAS.

Her name is even memorialized in a term used for the "best parking" you can get:

(https://i1.wp.com/www.wheres-andy-now.com/wp-content/uploads/2002/03/Doris-Day-Parking.jpg)

My favorite Doris Day song is It's Magic. It makes my heart sing.
Here's a nice montage of Doris to the song, done by someone for her Birthday ten years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRp1LZOk05o

I've previously mentioned at some point that I was lucky enough to attend the Oscars one year in 1989.  Doris Day had been scheduled to attend those Oscars and I was thrilled, but then it got reported that she'd cut her foot while gardening and would not be attending. I so regret that! Sometime in the early 2000's, though, I happened to be reading something online and a person had written an address where he wrote to Doris Day and got a reply. So I wrote decided to write her a short letter and about six weeks later received an autographed photo of her made out to me, which I didn't ask for, by the way. So I treasure that.

There are still several Doris Day films I've yet to see, so I'll look forward to those... Sigh.

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"You sigh...the song begins,
you speak and I hear violins...It's magic!"

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Post by: brian on May 13, 2019, 01:07:07 PM
When our Musical Society put on 'Calamity Jane' in 1987, Doris Day sent us a photo personally signed with good wishes. We were able to use it in our publicity so I have a copy somewhere. I have some clips of her on my blog.
http://brianaralph.blogspot.com/2009/02/calamity-jane.html
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 13, 2019, 01:40:58 PM
^^^

Nice!

For a local gay bar, a friend, who worked there, and I put together some gay relationship scenes
from films, and edited it to "Secret Love," the Oscar winning song from Calamity Jane.

"Once I had a secret love..."

I always wondered if gay people from the 1950's just loved that song because it was popular and you
could sing it as a way of expressing your own inner feelings without, well, outing yourself.

The lyrics:

Once I had a secret love
That lived within the heart of me
All too soon my secret love
Became impatient to be free

So I told a friendly star
The way that dreamers often do
Just how wonderful you are
And why I am so in love with you

Now I shout it from the highest hills
Even told the golden daffodils
At last my heart's an open door
And my secret love's no secret anymore...


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Post by: morrobay on May 13, 2019, 01:47:01 PM
Lyle, who is the song attributed to...who wrote it?
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 13, 2019, 02:07:56 PM
Lyle, who is the song attributed to...who wrote it?

The Secret Love music was written by Sammy Fain, and Paul Francis Webster wrote the lyrics.

They won the Best Song Oscar for it and then two years later they won again for their song "Love is a Many Splendored Thing."
Ten years after that Webster won another Oscar for "The Shadow of Your Smile." The music for that was written by Johnny Mandel.

Overall, Sammy Fain was nominated for 9 Oscars between 1937 and 1977.
Paul Francis Webster was nominated for 14 Oscars between 1944 and 1976.
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Post by: morrobay on May 13, 2019, 02:15:32 PM
I never gave it a thought before, but listening to it from another perspective, it's very touching and bittersweet.  I never looked between the lines, but now I can see so much feeling and sadness and maybe pain...and maybe freedom.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 14, 2019, 06:52:18 AM
I agree about "My Secret Love."
NBC Nightly News had a very nice tribute to her last evening. BBC World News America had a brief segment on her, too.
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Post by: morrobay on May 15, 2019, 08:42:31 PM
I love this movie...

Moneyball
AMCHD - 63 Wed, 5/15, 7:00 PM 3 hrs
2011, Drama, Sports, Adaptation, Biography, True Story, Baseball, Major League Baseball
After the owner puts the Oakland A's on a tight budget, the general manager is forced to redesign his approach to assembling a team, and he decides to hire an Ivy League grad who has an innovative plan that revolves around recruiting flawed players.
Credits: Brad Pitt (Actor), Jonah Hill (Actor), Philip Seymour Hoffman (Actor), Robin Wright (Actor), Chris Pratt (Actor), Stephen Bishop (Actor)
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 16, 2019, 09:17:32 AM
Paul Newman is Star of the Month on TCM, and last evening they showed Hud. Newman is great, of  course, but the real attraction of this movie for me is Brandon de Wilde, who plays Newman's nephew. At age 20 he was a beautiful young man, just plain beautiful. He has a great scene with Patricia Neal, who plays the housekeeper, when she comes into his room to wake him up, and he's supposed to be naked under the sheets. Too bad we don't see anything.  ::)  Beautiful smooth chest, though.  ;D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 16, 2019, 01:19:50 PM

Jeff, I assume you know that this film was adapted from a Larry McMurtry novel titled Horseman, Pass.  I love this film and Newman, De Wilde and Patricia Neal are impeccable in it. The film had 7 Oscar nominations for everything but Best Film, and I don't get that. I've mentioned before I think, not only should it have been nominated, it should've won Best Film. It did win for Actress, Supporting Actor and Cinematography. It's quite a lovely film.

Did you know that in the novel, the character of Alma (Alma!) was black? Even though 1963 was a big year for civil rights issues, that probably wouldn't have flown back then. Many years ago I had a chance to see this film in a theatre and it just blew me over, just like The Last Picture Show does when I see it.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 16, 2019, 01:29:12 PM
I love this movie...

Moneyball

I, too, love this film. It so very entertaining!
Brad Pitt and Jonah Hill give great performances.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 16, 2019, 02:08:21 PM
Jeff, I assume you know that this film was adapted from a Larry McMurtry novel titled Horseman, Pass.  I love this film and Newman, De Wilde and Patricia Neal are impeccable in it. The film had 7 Oscar nominations for everything but Best Film, and I don't get that. I've mentioned before I think, not only should it have been nominated, it should've won Best Film. It did win for Actress, Supporting Actor and Cinematography. It's quite a lovely film.

Yes, I knew that. This wasn't the first time I've seen it (in fact I have it in my DVD collection). The host (some other guy, not Ben Mankiewicz) said Brandon de Wilde accepted the Oscar for Melvyn Douglas, but he didn't say why Douglas wasn't there to accept it himself.

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Did you know that in the novel, the character of Alma (Alma!) was black? Even though 1963 was a big year for civil rights issues, that probably wouldn't have flown back then. Many years ago I had a chance to see this film in a theatre and it just blew me over, just like The Last Picture Show does when I see it.

I've never read the novel, so I did not know that about Alma.

Alma must have been a popular name around the Thirties or so. I have an aunt by that name.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 17, 2019, 10:42:08 AM
The host (some other guy, not Ben Mankiewicz) said Brandon de Wilde accepted the Oscar for Melvyn Douglas, but he didn't say why Douglas wasn't there to accept it himself.

You can see what Brandon de Wilde says about that in this Oscar clip of him accepting the award:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv4ok3oHyPA

My Oscar book says that only ONE of the acting winners that night were there to accept their award.
Along with Douglas, Margaret Rutherford and Patricia Neal were not present. Only Sidney Poitier was
there to accept Best Actor for Lilies of the Field.

The Oscars always seem to give out the Oscar to a star for the wrong role. Paul Newman really should've
won for Hud this year. Poitier won because that was the time of increased civil rights awareness for blacks
and such. He gave so many great performances later on. In 1967 alone he was in To Sir with Love, Guess
Who's Coming to Dinner and In the Heat of the Night! I had the fortunate experience to meet him over 15
years ago on Christmas Eve in the nearby Trader Joe's market! He was very gracious.

Paul Newman is in my favorite movie and I never did see him in person.
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Post by: morrobay on May 17, 2019, 11:24:03 AM
That's so cool that you met Sidney Poiter in TJ's!  And on Christmas Eve, at that.



This was posted in IG yesterday - Happy Birthday, Oscar.  Funny that the first one only lasted 15 minutes.



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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 17, 2019, 11:26:58 AM
In the Heat of the Night!

Great movie! Another I will watch any time.

(A secondary benefit for me is the passenger train in those pre-Amtrak days.)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 17, 2019, 12:16:33 PM
That's so cool that you met Sidney Poiter in TJ's!  And on Christmas Eve, at that.

Agree. Yes it was!


This was posted in IG yesterday - Happy Birthday, Oscar.  Funny that the first one only lasted 15 minutes.

A lot of that is because 1.) There were half as many awards as there are now and 2.) the winners had been known,
interviewed and discussed weeks before this actual dinner took place in the Roosevelt Hotel, which was also pretty
brand new at the time.


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Post by: morrobay on May 17, 2019, 12:21:03 PM
and no red carpet, rich people showing off free gowns and borrowed jewels.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 17, 2019, 08:42:33 PM
This evening HBO showed Signs, another of the many films I never saw before. I liked it. I found it genuinely suspenseful, although I also found it a tad disappointing.

M. Night Shyamalin is a Philadelphia homeboy. I hadn't known that he had cast himself in this movie.
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Post by: B.W. on May 17, 2019, 10:22:23 PM
That was the point though.  Several publicized AMPAS members WHO VOTED said they didn't see Brokeback Mountain, or worse, said they didn't want to.

#1.) Have you EVER heard at any other period in Oscar history of members specifically dissing a film like that. Saying they wouldn't see it? In public. Imagine if people said they refused to see Schindler's List, for example. Most AMPAS members are particularly mum when it comes to their actual opinions of films, not wanting to offend people they might work with etc.  In this case they were public about it.  AMPAS' official line is that if one hadn't seen all five nominees in a category they are directed not to vote in the category.  Right.

2.) At the time there were several high profile AMAPS voters who said they hadn't seen the film, wouldn't, or didn't care to, including Clint Eastwood, Ernest Borgnine, Tony Curtis, Samuel L. Jackson, Mark Wahlberg and Sarah Jessica Parker.



I know there were a few AMPAS members that stated that they didn't see the film.  I think there have been AMPAS members who haven't seen all the films in every voting category, but they probably wouldn't admit it.  I'm sure there were voting members who didn't watch "Schindler's List" (1993), but wouldn't admit it to the media.  I think AMPAs members don't voice criticism as much about the films that other people in the movie industry work on, perhaps because they are worried about a future chance at working with some of those persons.  At the time that "Brokeback Mountain" was nominated for Best Picture in 2006 and failed to win, I knew that a few voting members of the AMPAS didn't see the movie and admitted it, then I thought that surely they must be a minority of people who did not see the film.  Nowadays, who knows how many members of the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences didn't see "Brokeback Mountain" in 2006.




I bet you there are a lot of good movies that haven't won in this or that category at the Oscars because people who didn't see them, especially if the subject matter bothered them, the probably just didn't say anything about that in puiblic.  I heard of some black men not wanting to watch Steven Spielberg's theatrical film adaptation of "The Color Purple" (1985) because they thought it sounded like a sexist movie in how it portrayed black men, but they weren't voting members of the AMPAs.  I guess you really can't take film award ceremonies too seriously,  I never really have, I do think that "Brokeback Mountain" not winning Best Picture reminded me not to do that to a certain degree, although I think homophobia did play a major role in the film not winning Best Picture and I am upset about that.  Keep in mind, I still find Ernest Borgnine's bigoted comments to be very upsetting.  I didn't care about what they said about how John Wayne would feel about it because regardless of how much of a staple an actor or director made a film genre,  that doesn't mean they get to define it for everyone else or that you have to follow their movie formulas and conventions in that genre.  That is the part of it that I dismissed the most without taking it too seriously because it doesn't matter what a director or actor in this or that genre would think.


 I don't think that had "Brokeback Mountain" won the Oscar for Best Picture that it would have changed very many people's minds or hearts about LGBT people and the issues that they face in society. Sadly but not surprisingly, there were people during the film's theatrical release  who used the film to promote their views of how homosexuality "harms" society in their eyes. There are people who still do this, I am sure of that.  Such views are preposterous.  None of the characters in the film get what they want the most, which I would say is to find love with that special someone.  That is one of the tragic things about the film. .  It would have been nice to see a film that I really enjoyed and thought was well-made win.  If all AMPAS members had seen it, weren't bothered by the subject matter and hated it just because it wasn't their kind of film, that wouldn't have bothered me.  Even though it didn't win Best Picture, I will always enjoy it and appreciate it.  It seems one doesn't have very many experiences that are so moving with a film, at least for me anyway.  The fact that I am still talking about it, that proves the movie is more effective on me than any award it did or might have one.

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Post by: B.W. on May 17, 2019, 10:25:38 PM
This evening HBO showed Signs, another of the many films I never saw before. I liked it. I found it genuinely scary, although I also found it a tad disappointing.

M. Night Shyamalin is a Philadelphia homeboy. I hadn't known that he had cast himself in this movie.




I haven't ever really seen "Signs", although I've heard some people say it was kind of similar in style to "The Sixth Sense" (1999), a likeable horror movie, but a bit overrated in my opinion, though I appreciate what it was trying to do.  If anyone else here saw "Signs", do you think it was slightly similar in style and tone to "The Sixth Sense"?
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Post by: Flyboy on May 18, 2019, 07:54:05 AM
For me, Signs was kinda creepy!  :o :o.....but I thought The Sixth Sense and Ghost were sorta the same. In The Sixth Sense I was truly engrossed in Bruce Willis's performance, and in Ghost it was Whoopi that caught my attention. I don't know if it was because I was so used to seeing Willis and Whoopi on TV and not in films, hmmmm? Don't know, really. Some say Whoopi is always the same character in ALL her films....LOL!! Maybe so......Bruce was a revelation to me in that role. Whoopi is one of those character actors that 'talks out loud to herself in many roles', I LOVE actors who voice their thoughts like that! Mary Kay Place is one who can do that too, she's a GREAT under-rated character actor to me.....love her. I'm almost always drawn to the supporting cast in a film, never the STAR or Lead Actors........not sure why, I rarely see a film just for the Star or Stars alone.........in BBM, I liked Anne's character the best, even though she had limited screen time, 2nd was Jack's Mother, superb acting on her part, again, very little screen time!  ;D
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 18, 2019, 09:09:30 AM
I haven't ever really seen "Signs", although I've heard some people say it was kind of similar in style to "The Sixth Sense" (1999), a likeable horror movie, but a bit overrated in my opinion, though I appreciate what it was trying to do.  If ayone else here saw "Signs", do you think it was slightly similar in style and tone to "The Sixth Sense"?

I edited my post. I wanted to say that I found the movie suspenseful, but I couldn't think of the word last night. I was very impressed by the way Shyamalin built the suspense.

I've never seen The Sixth Sense, so I can't comment on how it compares to Signs.

I could say a thing or two more about Signs, but I won't because I don't want to spoil it.

This I can say: Where it says the story takes place in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, north of Philadelphia, it was actually filmed in Bucks County.
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Post by: Flyboy on May 18, 2019, 04:46:43 PM
OMG!! Jeff!! You HAVE to see Sixth Sense, a GREAT film, IMHO, you understand??!  ;D :o
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Post by: B.W. on May 18, 2019, 06:37:33 PM
For me, Signs was kinda creepy!  :o :o.....but I thought The Sixth Sense and Ghost were sorta the same. In The Sixth Sense I was truly engrossed in Bruce Willis's performance, and in Ghost it was Whoopi that caught my attention. I don't know if it was because I was so used to seeing Willis and Whoopi on TV and not in films, hmmmm? Don't know, really. Some say Whoopi is always the same character in ALL her films....LOL!! Maybe so......Bruce was a revelation to me in that role. Whoopi is one of those character actors that 'talks out loud to herself in many roles', I LOVE actors who voice their thoughts like that! Mary Kay Place is one who can do that too, she's a GREAT under-rated character actor to me.....love her. I'm almost always drawn to the supporting cast in a film, never the STAR or Lead Actors........not sure why, I rarely see a film just for the Star or Stars alone.........in BBM, I liked Anne's character the best, even though she had limited screen time, 2nd was Jack's Mother, superb acting on her part, again, very little screen time!  ;D





I also think Anne Hathaway's performance in "Brokeback Mountain" was overlooked.  Her last scene in the film is her best.  Roberta Maxwell's performance was also great.  The cast members who had minor roles in the film were very well chosen.
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Post by: B.W. on May 18, 2019, 06:45:10 PM
One movie I watched some weeks back was Universal Pictures' "The Mummy" (1932) with Boris Karloff.  I liked it.  A few months ago, I watched the classic British comedy film "Monty Python's Life of Brian" (1979).  It is so funny and I think that almost any atheist would appreciate the satirical portrayal of 1st century Judaism which is quite accurate according to American agnostic-atheist and highly respected, longtime New Testament Biblical scholar Bart D. Ehrman.  My husband liked it and thought it was hilarious as well.  "What's so funny about the name Biggus Dickus"?
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 19, 2019, 12:17:51 PM

Congratulations to Anne Hathaway for getting a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame,
as reported in The Daily Sheet, TDS, this week:

A star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame was unveiled Thursday to honor Oscar-winning actress Anne Hathaway, a day before the release of her latest film, "The Hustle."

Anne may have wished she'd gotten the star right before the release of a different film of hers, because, well,
the first I really heard of her new film was from an email a friend of mine wrote me. He works for a place that
deals with MGM in some capacity and they often invite those employees to see free screenings of their upcoming
movies. He said:

So MGM had a screening of The Hustle last week, and I saw it.  In case you don't know, The Hustle is a remake of Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, except they flipped it, and the con men are con women this time. It stars Anne Hathaway and Rebel Wilson. Well, this is my first pick for the worst movie of the year. I know it's still early (only May), but the stink of this film will definitely hold up to the end of the year. I love Anne Hathaway, but she was awful (she has the Michael Caine role).  Rebel Wilson fairs better, but script is filled with so many cliches and one-dimensional characters. It's badly directed.  "How can we make this scene the least humorless we can?" The unknown actor, playing the Glenne Headly role, is so bland. He's a placeholder where a real actor should be. I can't say enough bad things about this film.

Yikes! I decided to look it up on Rotten Tomatoes and see what others are thinking. As of today, with 124 critics reviews, it has a dismal 15% positive rating.   :o

My friend mentioned it's a remake of Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. What you may not know is that DRS was, in itself, a remake of a 1964 film that starred David Niven, Marlon Brando and Shirley Jones and was titled Bedtime Story.

Sorry Anne!
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Post by: Gazapete on May 19, 2019, 12:21:28 PM
One movie I watched some weeks back was Universal Pictures' "The Mummy" (1932) with Boris Karloff.  I liked it.  A few months ago, I watched the classic British comedy film "Monty Python's Life of Brian" (1979).  It is so funny and I think that almost any atheist would appreciate the satirical portrayal of 1st century Judaism which is quite accurate according to American agnostic-atheist and highly respected, longtime New Testament Biblical scholar Bart D. Ehrman.  My husband liked it and thought it was hilarious as well.  "What's so funny about the name Biggus Dickus"?

Life of Brian is one of those films that never get old, it's just brilliant. Always Look on the Bright Side of Life was my wedding song, we had it played when we entered the town hall  :laugh:
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Post by: brian on May 19, 2019, 01:28:24 PM
Never seen 'Life of Brian' although I have seen plenty of excerpts.
I was a teacher in a Senior Catholic Boys' College in 1979 and suffered far too many jokes and teasings from my students over this film. My first name was hardly a secret. It was about the time the local TV network filmed me sitting in a Gay Rights meeting so I was outed at the same time. Homosexuality was only decriminalised in 1984 in my State.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 19, 2019, 01:54:57 PM
One movie I watched some weeks back was Universal Pictures' "The Mummy" (1932) with Boris Karloff.

Ever see this one?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0023694/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_62

White Zombie, with Bela Lugosi. This film shows you what a "real" zombie is.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 19, 2019, 03:59:32 PM

--Flower Drum Song

A friend of mine asked me over to watch this film. I had seen it once on a VHS tape, probably in the 1980's. So I saw it on a smallish screen and the VHS was not widescreen (letterboxed) in those days. My memory of it was dim and that I didn't really care for it all that much, despite a few songs in it.

I have also learned that many movies that I saw back in the day on VHS that were pan & scan versions deserve another chance, because you aren't really seeing them how they were originally framed. Especially musicals, where dancing numbers are cut off the edges and such.

Well, I was bowled over this time watching it, and loved it. Nancy Kwan is fierce. Also in it is Miyoshi Umeki, who won an Oscar for Sayonara (IMO the other Asian actress, Miko Taka, deserved it more than she) and Bloody Mary from South Pacific herself, Juanita Hall.

The plot of the film is basically about three generations of a Chinese family in San Francisco dealing with a clash of cultures from their new home and their homeland. Romantic subplots with three women involve most of the screen time. It's a big Rogers & Hammerstein production from Universal Studios and produced by Ross Hunter, who made flamboyantly opulent films in the late 50's and early 60's.

Watching it I couldn't help think of the hundreds of Chinese/Asian actors in this film and they must have been experiencing such a huge delight in working on a big budget studio film in Hollywood. You feel sad there was only one film like this and grateful that there was this one film.

There are some great songs, the most famous of which is "I Enjoy Being a Girl", probably because many other artists have recorded it. There is also Love Look Away, A Hundred Million Miracles and the comedic Chop Suey.

I loved the dancing in this movie. The actor who plays the youngest boy, hip, American influenced character has some wonderful dance sequences in the film. His name is Patrick Adiarte.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 20, 2019, 07:26:58 AM
OMG!! Jeff!! You HAVE to see Sixth Sense, a GREAT film, IMHO, you understand??!  ;D :o

I don't care for Bruce Willis. I'll skip it, thank you.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 20, 2019, 07:37:08 AM
TCM ran To Kill a Mockingbird again last evening. Even though I have the film on DVD, I still watched it on TCM last night (there was nothing else on ...). That movie never gets old for me. I'm guessing maybe that was Gregory Peck's greatest role.

I'd forgotten that Alice Ghostley played the aunt of Dill, the character who represents Truman Capote as a little boy. That woman may have never been a star, but she had a career that lasted more than 50 years.
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Post by: Gazapete on May 20, 2019, 09:42:07 AM
I don't care for Bruce Willis. I'll skip it, thank you.

Even Bruce Willis is watchable in that movie, I also recommend it.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 20, 2019, 10:27:38 AM
Even Bruce Willis is watchable in that movie, I also recommend it.

Not if you find him annoying. I can't explain it because even I don't know why, but I've just always found him annoying. (Shrugs)
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Post by: Gazapete on May 20, 2019, 11:57:33 AM
I understand, I don't find him specially nice either (shrugs back)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 20, 2019, 03:10:41 PM

Speaking of Bruce Willis:

--Glass

This is a sequel of sorts to 2017's movie Split and an earlier movie, Unbreakable. All M. Night Shyamalan films.
The film also stars James McAvoy, Samuel L. Jackson and Sarah Paulson.

Split involved the James McAvoy character kidnapping three girls and being hunted down, but complicating matters
is that the character had been diagnosed with 23 different personalities, one of them an almost supernatural and
frightening creature the other personalities called The Beast. It was a tense, scary and frightening film with an
amazing acting job by James McAvoy. Not all the personalities were conveyed, maybe around ten of them, and
just by facial and body expressions and voice, he instantly became believable with each one. No makeup or costume
additions needed. I thought he should've been nominated for Best Actor for this film.  Indeed, a few film critics
groups did nominate him and even award him for the role.

This film is somewhat disappointing in the denouement of the trilogy. While it's mostly compelling scene to scene it doesn't
really build up tension with its expectations and doesn't gel properly. But I always found James McAvoy compelling playing
all his personalities--20 of them in this film! In the credits his name is listed for the following characters:

JAMES MCAVOY
Patricia / Dennis / Hedwig / The Beast / Barry / Heinrich / Jade / Ian / Mary Reynolds / Norma /
Jalin / Kat / B.T. / Kevin Wendell Crumb / Mr. Pritchard / Felida / Luke / Goddard / Samuel / Polly

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Post by: Flyboy on May 20, 2019, 06:42:41 PM
He was at his best in Moonlighting, IMHO, you understand, plus he used to have a kinda band he played in too. I do think celebrity and Demi Moore got to him in a way......he started carrying the 'smug look' about him.....whatever, I still think he was great in The Sixth Sense.......plus, I will give him credit for working with Demi on the child custody and shared parenthood thing, they seemed to work that out really well for the kids.....so, kudos for them with that issue. Kids of celebrities NEVER have it easy.......IMHO, you understand?  ;D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 21, 2019, 11:43:14 AM

--Hot Summer Nights

Some of you on the Call Be By Your Name thread may have seen and/or discussed this film. It stars Timothee Chalamet. Do any of you know if he made this film before or after Call Me By Your Name? Sources list both as 2017 movies, but that doesn't mean they weren't made before that.

I would tend to think this film would've been made first, because the writer/director was new. The director had never directed a film before.

I was curious about it because I wanted to see Timothee act in something else before so much attention was focused on him with his Elio role. IMDB Lists this film as having been made after Call Me By Your Name, but before it was released. I'm just finding it interesting this rather independent production with inexperienced people at the helm was a choice for him after working on the other film.

A friend of mine had seen it, too, and thought it was worth watching. Let's just say that if Timothee wasn't in it, it's not a film I would've probably ever chosen to watch. It's about two disparate characters spending the summer selling drugs to the locals and the people who come in just for the summer, whom the locals call Birds.

It's very moody and time period evocative (1991), but it lingers on those things a tad too long in each scene which keeps the pace at arms length. Because you know that young people selling drugs and involved with dealers is something which will get them deeper and deeper into trouble, you aren't surprised at all when it does, so it's hard to care about them. You do care more about their relationships with a couple girls and how that plays out.

I had read several brief synopses here and there and some of them describe this movie like it's a summer romantic comedy romp, which it isn't at all. It's tone is quite serious and foreboding throughout.

What I found more fascinating than the movie itself was a short feature about the making of it which was included on the DVD rental I got from NetFlix. The only reason I watched it is that the envelope the dvd came in said the running time was two hours and I plotted out a two hour period to watch it. But it was really an hour and 45 minutes. So I had some time left over!

The first thing that surprised me is that the director (and writer), Elijah Bynum, was black. It surprised me because all of the black directors you see in the public eye are making movies all about black characters and historical stories about the black experience or documentaries concerning black social issues. It made me wonder why he wrote a screenplay like this. He does say he got the idea from attending college at Amherst College in Massachusetts. He recalled two guys that were quite opposite from one another there who the whole campus came to know sold drugs to the students, and a couple years later they had disappeared from the collective consciousness and he wondered what had happened to them. Bynum also grew up in New England and his family regularly visited the Cape Cod area in the summer, places where tourists invaded the locals for a couple months and then disappeared. In the film, he also ties in a real life weather experience of the time, a hurricane that hit the area.

So that's a bit where Bynum came from. How he got the job of also directing the film I don't know, but he relates this film is the first one he ever directed, he was doing something he never did before, not even short films. Besides that, it takes place in New England in 1991, but they filmed it in Georgia which provided it's own problems in recreating the actual location. Of course, whether or not I'm correct, but my gaydar was going off somewhat in that I was thinking Bynum might be gay, which I only mention because why not?

The short making of documentary is fascinating because it shows how difficult it is to make ANY movie, and especially when you've never done it before. Even if one already knows how shooting a film can often be tedious or frustrating, you appreciate watching one segment where he talks about this...they are at a gas station trying to shoot a really quick line of dialogue. Timothee and his co-star Alex Roe are in the scene. They begin and there's noise. They have to stop. They start to go again and a loud truck rolls by. Before they can start a whole group of loud vehicles parade by on the road. (Films with big budgets can hire people, like off duty cops, to stop traffic on the roads for a bit to get the shots.) After the vehicles are gone they try to start again and there's another loud vehicle that goes by. (The actors, director and crew all are reacting while this is going on.) After a bit they think they'll be good to go and start, but then those loud cicada insects start making noise and they have to stop again. All this to shoot a ten second line of dialogue. Sometimes you wonder how any movie comes off very well!

This little documentary is also interesting in that it definitely shows them filming two scenes, and possibly a third that I wasn't quite sure about, that were not in the film. One looked like it might have altered the ending somewhat. (There were no deleted scenes in the extras.)

It's a good movie to watch for Chalamet fans. The director talks about how impressed they were working with him. It just seems like he has had double the years of experience his young age would indicate. The film itself is okay, it feels like it wants to break out many times, but it always seems to stall, to me anyway.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 26, 2019, 01:49:41 PM

--White Boy Rick

The lead actor playing Rick, Richie Merritt, I have not heard of, but also in the cast of this film are Matthew McConaughey,
Bruce Dern, Piper Laurie and Jennifer Jason Leigh, plus an actor I know, but many may not, Rory Cochrane.

The film is a true story that takes place in Detroit in the 1980's, about a young teen boy, Rick. His father is of dubious character, wants nothing to do with drugs, but he buys guns from gun dealers, supersizes them and resells them. Rick gets involved with a group of dubious characters and a couple police detectives glom onto him to do some work for them, at first just buying drugs from some of them so the police can figure out where they're coming from. It turns into them getting the boy to also start selling drugs, like cocaine, to the same people, they also let him keep the money, and Rick gets in way over his head. Parallel plots involve Rick's grandparents and his sister who leaves home and is hooked on drugs, as well as Rick's involvement with a black teenager whom he has a child with. (Rick is only 15-16.)

The story is about how the police use the unfortunate boy and then leave him high and dry in court when he's being prosecuted for drug dealing, in which they set him up.

In other words, no one wins in this situation. The family is involved in illegal guns and drugs. The police detectives leave them high and dry in the end. You can't help but feel sorry for a teenage boy who is used and left for possible prison sentences and so it is a film where you don't really feel empathy for any side of this bad situation, though the film clearly wants you to feel that toward what happens to Rick. I frankly can't imagine being a teenager in a family that's gone awry and living in a place where the city is deteriorating before their eyes.

The best and most poignant line in the film is in one scene where Rick is talking to his teenage sister and asks if she remembers the period where their family was together and their Mom hadn't left yet. Rick says, "Remember that time when we were young, and it was good...for awhile."  His drug addled sister looks at him then reaches out and touches his cheek. She says, "Rick...you're still young."  :'(

Such is their life.
_______

Also, you know in a lot of films about actual people when at the end you'll see photos of the actual people played by the actors, and most often the actors are way better looking/appealing than the real life person.  The film doesn't show Rick at the end, but there's a short extra on the DVD that does and this is one case, IMO, where the real life Rick is better looking than the actor who plays him.


 
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 26, 2019, 02:25:07 PM

--Call Her Savage (1932)

Clara Bow made one more film after this, less well known, but wonderful, called Hoopla, and then called it quits! It's one of her few talkies, and she gave up career because she had problems liking her voice and thought she wasn't very good, but she was wrong. Her voice is fine and she's really good. And she was only 26. Also in this film is Gilbert Roland and Thelma Todd.

She plays a fiery tempered young girl who enters into a brief and unsatisfactory marriage with a drunkard. She inherits a fortune and is off to New York looking for a second husband. (I think she can find one, having a fortune!) Gilbert Roland plays a half breed Indian in this, which is interesting, and there's also a scene in gay bar!

Unfortunately, the print I was watching, it was really good, except it had continuous scratches on it. I wonder if the original negative is like that, which would probably cost a fortune to fix that. Anyway, I've also been fascinated with Clara Bow and have seen most of her films in various quality prints. Her films that aren't lost, that is. Even though Clara kept Paramount in business through most of her career, in the last of the 1920's they weren't much keen on taking care of silent films at that point and many of her films are lost. A shame.

I have noticed that many of her films that are always talked about as her best, I don't think are. Of course, a columnist wrote about her as having that illusive IT quality and Clara made a silent movie called IT, which is often one people mention, but it gets a bit tedious. Another is her first talkie called The Wild Party, which is creaky and some of her other talkies are way better.

I am more of a fan of her movies that take place contemporaneous to her time, the 1920's. One of my favorites is called Kid Boots. It has a lot of really amusing scenes and situations. Also starring in it is an actor I don't care for, largely because of his annoying voice, Eddie Cantor, but it's a silent film so that isn't an issue! Heh!  I've seen it twice in a theatre and also have a DVD of it.

I've also read two biographies written about her. She is remembered for being ahead of her time, morally anyway, and a wild personality, but I don't know how you could make a movie about her that would be able to convey that nowadays. And who could play her? Maybe a musical or stage show would work. I don't know.

One of her lost films, unfortunately, is called Red Hair. I always wanted to see it because the first scene in the movie was filmed in the then new two-strip technicolor process, showing Clara in close-ups featuring her actual red hair! Many years ago I attended a screening of a Clara Bow film and they showed a couple segments that had been found of a couple of her lost films. Then they said they had some footage, which they didn't know if it actually came from the film itself, or was some outtakes or deleted material, but it was from Red Hair and it was some of that color footage!  How grand! Very exciting!





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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 27, 2019, 12:24:24 PM

--Love Me or Leave Me

This is a somewhat fictionalized musical of an early 20th century singer named Ruth Etting and her tumultuous relationship with a Chicago gangster type that she gets involved with to further her career.

This is a full blown MGM widescreen musical presentation from 1955 and it pulls out all the stops. Many consider this Doris Day's finest performance as she does it all, sings-dances-dramatic acting,  and that will depend if you like her romantic comedy persona better. When the film came out, apparently the studio got a lot of letters in response to Doris' change of image from sweet and wholesome. (Yes, viewers, she could act!)

Her two co-stars in the film, vying for her attention, are played by James Cagney and Cameron Mitchell. The film had six Oscar nominations, including Cagney for Best Actor, and it won one of them for Screen Story, but Doris got snubbed.

Would you have substituted her for one of these who did get nominated:

ACTRESS
Susan Hayward, I'll Cry Tomorrow
Katharine Hepburn, Summertime
Jennifer Jones, Love Is a Many-Splendored Thing
Anna Magnani, The Rose Tattoo
Eleanor Parker, Interrupted Melody
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 27, 2019, 12:51:58 PM
--Love Me or Leave Me

Many consider this Doris Day's finest performance as she does it all, sings-dances-dramatic acting.

Her two co-stars in the film, vying for her attention, are played by James Cagney and Cameron Mitchell. The film had six Oscar nominations, including Cagney for Best Actor, and it won one of them for Screen Story, but Doris got snubbed.

Would you have substituted her for one of these who did get nominated:

ACTRESS
Susan Hayward, I'll Cry Tomorrow
Katharine Hepburn, Summertime
Jennifer Jones, Love Is a Many-Splendored Thing
Anna Magnani, The Rose Tattoo
Eleanor Parker, Interrupted Melody

I'd never substitute Doris Day for Kate Hepburn (David Lean directed).
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 28, 2019, 09:20:27 AM

Not even for Summertime?

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 28, 2019, 03:09:49 PM
Not even for Summertime?

I'm not sure what you're getting at here, but no.

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on May 29, 2019, 02:21:57 PM

I meant that Hepburn's performance in Summertime is fine, but it isn't a role that stretched her acting talents
to a great degree. So I might say she could have done without one of her Oscar nominations for this film. I also
happen to believe, age difference besides, Doris Day could have done Hepburn's role in Summertime, but there is
no way Hepburn could have done Doris' role in Love Me or Leave Me.

Not trying to put down Hepburn in any way here, either. She's wonderful and in some of my favorite films!

Interestingly, Katharine Hepburn toured on stage with a play from the writer of On Golden Pond. It was called
West Side Waltz. There were plans to make it into a movie with Doris Day at one time, until she firmly decided
to retire. It was done later on as a TV film.

Of those nominated actresses that year, I have not seen Interrupted Melody with Eleanor Parker, though
the trailer I saw for it seems a bit over the top! Also, I'll Cry Tomorrow I saw but don't remember it that
well. The Rose Tattoo is really good, though it cries out to have been filmed in color. Jennifer Jones is fine
in Love Is a Many Splendored Thing, but through our current eyes, the fact she plays an Asian woman is
problematic to many.

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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on May 29, 2019, 06:24:25 PM
I've never seen either movie. I just would never pick Doris Day over Katharine Hepburn. Ever. For anything. Except for comedy.

Edit to Add: It occurs to me that I should take back at least a part of the comedy. IMO, Hepburn could do comedy when she was young (see: Bringing Up Baby, and I guess The Philadelphia Story qualifies as comedy), but even then maybe she wasn't as good at comedy as Doris Day.
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Post by: brian on May 30, 2019, 08:51:45 PM
Top End Wedding (2019)

Beautiful, exuberant Australian Aboriginal actor, Miranda Tapsell, has co-written with Josh Tyler, co-produced and starred in this pacy rom-com set in the Top end, the north of the Northern Territory. I first saw her in the wonderful The Sapphires directed by Wayne Blair who is the director of this film too.
I am glad you recommended this. I have just seen it today and loved it. For once it made me want to tell others in the audience that I am Australian (usually i prefer to hide it). And I have just emailed my sister to go see it. We went to Kakadu and Katherine together in 2014. I told her it made me want to go back except I could not feel the heat. Winter arrived yesterday so just 10'C max today and 7'C with possible snow tomorrow, just as I like it.  Not sure how I feel about the gay character. I tend to cringe at such camp behaviour but it was just part of the fun of the movie.
Instead of gardening I can go to the movies. Rocketman started yesterday and Tolkien next Thursday although there are previews this 'long' weekend.
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Post by: tfferg on May 31, 2019, 07:14:22 AM
I am glad you recommended this. I have just seen it today and loved it. For once it made me want to tell others in the audience that I am Australian (usually i prefer to hide it). And I have just emailed my sister to go see it. We went to Kakadu and Katherine together in 2014. I told her it made me want to go back except I could not feel the heat. Winter arrived yesterday so just 10'C max today and 7'C with possible snow tomorrow, just as I like it.  Not sure how I feel about the gay character. I tend to cringe at such camp behaviour but it was just part of the fun of the movie.
Instead of gardening I can go to the movies. Rocketman started yesterday and Tolkien next Thursday although there are previews this 'long' weekend.

I'm glad you enjoyed it so much, Brian.

I've had a couple of memorable trips to the Top End, but have never been to Nitmiluk which I'd love to go to.

I thought the gay character was quite subtly played and avoided over-the-top stereotyping. What was impressive was the affection in which they are held by the community. As well as Rob Collins (who was in Cleverman) as the priest, I really liked the actor who played the policeman but I can't find his name. He is not listed in any cast list I can find and I didn't pick hiis name out as the credits rolled in the cinema.
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Post by: brian on May 31, 2019, 01:09:55 PM
I'm glad you enjoyed it so much, Brian.

I've had a couple of memorable trips to the Top End, but have never been to Nitmiluk which I'd love to go to.

I thought the gay character was quite subtly played and avoided over-the-top stereotyping. What was impressive was the affection in which they are held by the community. As well as Rob Collins (who was in Cleverman) as the priest, I really liked the actor who played the policeman but I can't find his name. He is not listed in any cast list I can find and I didn't pick hiis name out as the credits rolled in the cinema.
Imdb says Shaka Cook. No photo there but I googled and it is him, he had a nice smile.  Was also in 'Cleverman' which I am afraid I had never heard of. We do not get much other than mainstream movies here in Dunedin.  I just looked, a horror movie, so I would never go and see it.  I would not have called the gay character subtle.
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Post by: tfferg on May 31, 2019, 06:32:37 PM
Imdb says Shaka Cook. No photo there but I googled and it is him, he had a nice smile.  Was also in 'Cleverman' which I am afraid I had never heard of. We do not get much other than mainstream movies here in Dunedin.  I just looked, a horror movie, so I would never go and see it.  I would not have called the gay character subtle.

Thanks, Brian for tracking down Shaka Cook's name. He must have been one of the minor characters (probably without his lovely smile) in Cleverman which was a TV series on the ABC. I don't normally watch horror films, but this series was intriguing and interesting for its themes, which included politics and racism. Unlike most horror films, I don't think it was intended for a teenage audience.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 01, 2019, 11:03:29 AM
Close Encounters of the Third Kind on TCM last night. Even though I own a copy on DVD, I never miss it if I can help it when it's broadcast. Love that movie. I admit it scared me the fist time I saw it, but now I love it. I have to laugh at the scene where lights that appear to be car lights pull up behind Richard Dreyfus, but instead of going around him, they rise up over him.  :D  I also love it when the UFO lights fly through the turnpike entrance.  :D

I was interested to learn some time ago that during the final scenes, there is a brief shot of a gentleman with a salt-pepper beard stepping out of the crowd of observers and takes a pipe out of his jacket (I think he takes it out of his jacket). This is a cameo by J. Allen Hynek, the UFO researcher who invented the number classification system for UFO encounters.

Dave Karger, who was the TCM host last night, said John Williams considered Close Encounters his best movie score.

I think Devil's Tower, Wyoming, was an inspired choice for the alien arrival. There is something ... special ... about that place. I've been there, and I would love to go there again. It doesn't surprise me at all that Native Americans consider it a sacred place. As you walk around the base of the mountain, you see many little prayer bundles tied to bushes and left by Native American visitors.

I've never particularly been a fan of Richard Dreyfus--I don't dislike him, I'm just not particularly a fan--but I think he was a good choice here for an Everyman who finds himself in extraordinary circumstances. He's not falling-down handsome (at least in my opinion), and I think he looks, well, like an Everyman.

Spielberg has done many, many amazing things in his career, but if I could take only one of his films with me to a desert island, it would be Close Encounters.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 01, 2019, 12:39:36 PM

Hi, Jeff, I also like this film. I love the scenes you mentioned. I did not know about that cameo in the film. I can't believe you've been to Devil's Tower!  Did you go before or after the film? Excellent.

Two years ago they were showing it briefly in "selected theatres" for a 40th Anniversary celebration. I decided to go as it was a horrendously hot day, the day after Labor Day, I believe. It was playing at the AMC in their one theatre that has the comfy padded chairs that have buttons where you can adjust them like a recliner. (Such luxury!)

Anyway, I hadn't seen the film in quite awhile and marveled at how, from hindsight, how 1970's it felt. I mean, that's when it was made after all, but the sensibilities in some of the dialogue, the family dynamic and the way the houses were furnished, the clothes, and still those big boxy cars brought back that period. (Not at all a criticism.)

I wrote this once before I believe, but one of my memories whenever I see the film again was back in 1977-78 when I was seeing it for a second or third time, I was in a crowded theatre in Hollywood and there was a very young boy sitting in front of me (like ten years old). During that opening musical crescendo that starts the film when this intense music gets louder and louder and then there's a sudden wallop...I knew it was coming and when it did this young boy jumped out of his seat into the air it seemed like ten feet!  Everyone who noticed it just laughed...it scared him out of his wits, I guess! I mean it always scared everyone, but I knew it was coming.

Jeff, I have to ask what "version" of the film you have. There was the original version when it came out.  Then it was aired on television where they added in about twenty minutes of things that were cut out. Then a couple or more years later they came out in theatres with the "Special Edition" where Spielberg added in some minutes at the end where they go inside the spaceship, which is what he said he originally envisioned/wanted to do, but they ran out of time and money, so they didn't.

In 1997 I attended a 20th Anniversary screening of the film at the Academy where they showed what they said was Spielberg's final version of the way he thought the film should be. (With some of the 20 minutes of scenes they added in for the TV version in it and not the Special Edition scenes where they go inside the spaceship.)  The young boy in the film, Carrey Guffey, was at this screening, twenty years older!

Frankly,once they had the special edition scenes in the film, I don't think those should be left out of the film now. They are wonderful and though Spielberg now probably thinks "leaving that to one's imagination" is preferable in the ending, well...we saw it...so I want it!

Anyway, in 2007 for the 30th Anniversary they put out a Collector's Edition on DVD with all 3 versions (though there are 4?) so you can pretty much watch it anyway you want!  However, I do not have a copy of it and I don't know if it's in print!

I do have a Collector's Edition of E.T. that has the original version and the 20th Anniversary Edition, shown in theatres, where they cleaned up the special effects to make them clearer and added a couple of deleted scenes. (And altered the guns pointing at the kids to walkie-talkies!)

Close Encounters of the Third Kind came out the same year as Star Wars and I always have preferred Close Encounters. I have never understand the ongoing fascination with Star Wars. At some point I gave up even seeing the sequels. Yesterday, Disneyland opened a new Star Wars Encounter section that covers a huge area in the park and they were, obviously, showing the lines of people wanting to see it and aerials of what it looked like and I was thinking it looked all brown, and desert-y, and drab and why are people so into this?

Personally, I have never understood absolute fads like this. I never got the hype surrounding Elvis, the Beatles or Michael Jackson. The intense constant fascination with Stars Wars (or LOTR). Things that go beyond being interested in something. This isn't to say I don't find most of these of interest in more limited ways than fanaticism. I don't consider myself fanatical over BBM. Though some might disagree... :D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 01, 2019, 12:42:39 PM
Two years ago they were showing it briefly in "selected theatres" for a 40th Anniversary celebration.

How can it be this was over 40 years ago. I wonder what I would've thought back then what 40 years hence would be like.
In 1977, movies that came out in 1937 would've had their 40th Anniversary! Mind boggling.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 02, 2019, 01:51:15 PM
Hey, Lyle.

Hi, Jeff, I also like this film. I love the scenes you mentioned. I did not know about that cameo in the film. I can't believe you've been to Devil's Tower!  Did you go before or after the film? Excellent.

I was at Devil's Tower only about 10 years ago. It was a stop on a longer tour of Wyoming. We watched Close Encounters the night before our visit.

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Jeff, I have to ask what "version" of the film you have. There was the original version when it came out.  Then it was aired on television where they added in about twenty minutes of things that were cut out. Then a couple or more years later they came out in theatres with the "Special Edition" where Spielberg added in some minutes at the end where they go inside the spaceship, which is what he said he originally envisioned/wanted to do, but they ran out of time and money, so they didn't.

In 1997 I attended a 20th Anniversary screening of the film at the Academy where they showed what they said was Spielberg's final version of the way he thought the film should be. (With some of the 20 minutes of scenes they added in for the TV version in it and not the Special Edition scenes where they go inside the spaceship.)  The young boy in the film, Carrey Guffey, was at this screening, twenty years older!

Frankly,once they had the special edition scenes in the film, I don't think those should be left out of the film now. They are wonderful and though Spielberg now probably thinks "leaving that to one's imagination" is preferable in the ending, well...we saw it...so I want it!

Anyway, in 2007 for the 30th Anniversary they put out a Collector's Edition on DVD with all 3 versions (though there are 4?) so you can pretty much watch it anyway you want!  However, I do not have a copy of it and I don't know if it's in print!

I have a very bad habit of acquiring movies that I like and then not sitting down to watch them forever, and Close Encounters is one of them. I've never actually played the copy I own, which is a used copy to boot.

The box cover identifies it as "The Collector's Edition" (whatever that's supposed to mean). I cannot find a date of issue on the box. The text on the back of the box calls it "the definitive director's cut," if that means anything, and gives it a running time of "approx 137 min," if the timing helps identify the version.

I watched it when it aired on TV for the first time, and I was astonished to see footage that I hadn't seen before. I would also have sworn that the TV broadcast included footage of Richard Dreyfuss entering the Mother Ship, followed by a tremendous burst of light, but I have never seen that again, to point where I've come to wonder if I completely imagined it.

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I do have a Collector's Edition of E.T. that has the original version and the 20th Anniversary Edition, shown in theatres, where they cleaned up the special effects to make them clearer and added a couple of deleted scenes. (And altered the guns pointing at the kids to walkie-talkies!)

One of these days I have to poke around to see if I still have my "I saw E.T." button. They were giving them out at the theater where I saw the movie.

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Close Encounters of the Third Kind came out the same year as Star Wars and I always have preferred Close Encounters. I have never understand the ongoing fascination with Star Wars. At some point I gave up even seeing the sequels.

I haven't seen a sequel since Return of the Jedi, and I've never seen any of the prequels. I know I liked the original film tremendously because I immediately related to it as to an old-fashioned swashbuckler,  just in space-opera dress. I'll never forget: A buddy and I waited till the end of the summer of 1977 to see it, and then maybe even a little grudgingly, but when we heard that first blaze of trumpets at the opening, we turned to each other with looks of "this isn't what I was expecting" on our faces.  ;D 

A month or so ago, I was passing City Hall on my way home from work, and there was some guy in the courtyard playing the music from the cantina seen on a saxophone.  ;D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 03, 2019, 12:10:57 PM
Hey, Lyle.
I was at Devil's Tower only about 10 years ago. It was a stop on a longer tour of Wyoming. We watched Close Encounters the night before our visit.

Excellent!

The box cover identifies it as "The Collector's Edition" (whatever that's supposed to mean).
I cannot find a date of issue on the box. The text on the back of the box calls it "the definitive director's cut," if that means anything, and gives it a running time of "approx 137 min," if the timing helps identify the version.

Definitive director's cut probably means it's the version I saw at AMPAS where Spielberg decided he preferred not having the "special edition footage" where Dreyfus enters the spaceship, leaving that to the viewers imagination. My opinion though is: "But, Steven, you showed us that in the special edition and you can't take it back!"  Special Edition is what they called the film when they re-released it a few years after 1977 and added in the "inside the spaceship" footage which you describe below.

I watched it when it aired on TV for the first time, and I was astonished to see footage that I hadn't seen before. I would also have sworn that the TV broadcast included footage of Richard Dreyfuss entering the Mother Ship, followed by a tremendous burst of light, but I have never seen that again, to point where I've come to wonder if I completely imagined it.

This is the problem with directors tinkering with their films, like Spielberg and Lucas have done.
There are three versions of Close Encounters now. And two of E.T.

Lucas has tinkered around with the original Star Wars so much that it looks like a video game now instead of the charming and sometimes clunky original version. It's too bad. It's like when they turned GWTW into a widescreen version in the 1950's. (Cropping the picture and making it bigger is NOT a good thing. Not the same.) At least that version has largely disappeared.

One of these days I have to poke around to see if I still have my "I saw E.T." button. They were giving them out at the theater where I saw the movie.

E.T. Phone Home!

A month or so ago, I was passing City Hall on my way home from work, and there was some guy in the courtyard playing the music from the cantina scene on a saxophone.  ;D

I remember the MECO version of that on the radio constantly during the summer of 1977 when I first arrived in CA. Movie lover though I am, Star Wars was not something in my wheelhouse to see, and I didn't even see it until January of 1978 when it became a movie you HAD to see by then. (No VCR's of note at that time.) It is the only one of those movies I've seen more than once. Like I wrote before, I don't really get the attachment people have to these films. Not even the aesthetics and or style of the film are appealing to me. I mean, when you see the new Star Wars attraction photos in Disneyland, it looks like a barren, brown desert-y location with bland colored hardware and machines. This is appealing? Well, for those that like it: enjoy!  I'll be over in the Toon Town section.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 03, 2019, 12:21:20 PM
By the way, Jeff, did you know:

When you see the bottom of the spaceship in Close Encounters, That is supposedly the lights, the vista, of the San Fernando Valley part of Los Angeles superimposed onto the bottom of the spaceship!

For example, here's a recent enough photo of that area taken from the east:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/3111/3237433532_383761b1aa_z.jpg)
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 03, 2019, 12:31:00 PM

--Searching|

Watched this last night and I guarantee you've never seen an entire movie like this. It ALL takes place as though you are watching it on a computer screen. Yes, that sounds awful. It's really not. I'm surprised the movie is as good as it is. It actually sets up characters quickly and then the major plot point (a man's daughter is missing and he's trying to find her) is a question you want to find out the answer to.

I mostly don't like television shows when they do texting and such, mainly because my screen was too small to be able to read those things, but my screen is bigger now! How big is all of yours?

I was wondering afterwards how critics thought of this film, they can be a strange bunch as a group (they were in love with A Star is Born after all and NOT Bohemian Rhapsody) but on RT it's got 92%!

The movie stars John Cho. He's an actor I like watching. And in one of the extras there are interviews with several actors (Debra Messing is in the film, too) about the challenges of making a movie like this, because it was not filmed in the traditional way, you know, with regular cameras. John Cho is very candid about it all. He initially didn't even want to do the movie thinking it would not work and found acting with cellphone and small security cameras and computer cameras etc. very off-putting at times. For an actor the extras about this are very interesting to ponder.

It might sound like a "gimmick" of a movie, but it is so much better than just being a gimmicky thing.

I hope some of you give it a try and see what you think. It came out in theatres last fall.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 03, 2019, 12:35:48 PM

Searching|

By the way, that above, I read, is the official title of the film. This "|" represents the cursor on your computer, so theoretically, officially, it should be blinking.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 03, 2019, 01:43:26 PM
When you see the bottom of the spaceship in Close Encounters, That is supposedly the lights, the vista, of the San Fernando Valley part of Los Angeles superimposed onto the bottom of the spaceship!

Ha! That is too funny!   :laugh:
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Post by: morrobay on June 03, 2019, 01:49:13 PM
of course I had to google it to see and it sure looks like it could be a city grid. 

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--GIGsfxOb--/bj5aiaojyit2ljamhrn9.gif)
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 03, 2019, 01:50:12 PM
Definitive director's cut probably means it's the version I saw at AMPAS where Spielberg decided he preferred not having the "special edition footage" where Dreyfus enters the spaceship, leaving that to the viewers imagination. My opinion though is: "But, Steven, you showed us that in the special edition and you can't take it back!"  Special Edition is what they called the film when they re-released it a few years after 1977 and added in the "inside the spaceship" footage which you describe below.

Thanks, Lyle. At least now I know I'm not crazy--at least not as far as Close Encounters is concerned.  ;D

I agree with you about that footage. I wish I could see it again, just to confirm my memory of it. That blaze of light struck me as almost a religious thing, a kind of Transfiguration. I guess maybe even great directors can make decisions that are maybe not well-advised.

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Movie lover though I am, Star Wars was not something in my wheelhouse to see, and I didn't even see it until January of 1978 when it became a movie you HAD to see by then.


I guess you could say it really wasn't in mine, either, which is why it took my friend and I all summer before we made up our minds to see it. I didn't make that mistake with E.T.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 03, 2019, 08:23:50 PM
of course I had to google it to see and it sure looks like it could be a city grid. 

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--GIGsfxOb--/bj5aiaojyit2ljamhrn9.gif)

I never before noticed Cary Guffey and Melinda Dillon in the lower left corner of the scene.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 03, 2019, 08:48:21 PM
Sanctimony, another of Michael Pare's films, this one from 2000. I'm not going to worry about spoilers here.

As I expected, you can call this a rip-off of Se7en (1995), with a dash of American Psycho (also released in 2000) thrown in.

MP is a detective with a pregnant wife (Catherine Oxenberg)--where have we seen that before? At least this one survives. This time out, the serial killer is working through the "See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil" paradigm instead of the Seven Deadly Sins.

I'll give this movie one really good credit: I think Casper Van Dien was perfectly cast as the serial killer (even if the character is straight out of Christian Bale's Patrick Bateman in American Psycho). He gets the chilling personality of the character just right, and he's so damn good-looking that I actually find him a bit creepy to begin with.

Eric Roberts has a small role as MP's boss.

Oh, yes, the movie also has a completely gratuitous if pleasing shot of MP's bare butt (he was still in good shape for a man who turned 42 the year the movie was released). I have no idea what that scene was about. His wife is a photographer, and there is at least one other woman photographer present, but I couldn't figure out if this was supposed to be a professional photo shoot or a photography class. All I got  was that the male model didn't show up, so his wife talked MP into posing. There are frontal shots of him with a towel wrapped around him, then the rear shot of MP's bare rear.

And I never have figured out how I know MP from the Eighties and remembered him as a real hottie, to my taste.  :">
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Post by: Gazapete on June 04, 2019, 11:45:56 AM
Close Encounters has to be one of my favourite movies. I remember watching it with my dad again and again, I must have been 7 or 8 years old? I was shocked when (maaany years later) I found out that the Devil's Tower is a real place. Definitely in my to visit list if I ever do it across the pond. I think I need to watch it again. This time with my kids. And my dad if possible, sound s like a good plan for the summertime.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 04, 2019, 11:51:09 AM
--Rocketman

I saw Rocketman yesterday.

I just thought...this is a movie about a gay music icon, so I should put it in the Gay Cinema thread.

LINK:
http://ultimatebrokebackforum.com/index.php?topic=277.msg2800415#msg2800415
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Post by: Gazapete on June 04, 2019, 11:54:11 AM
By the way, I spent lots of time as a child inventing stories for the people who return to earth, all the soldiers and sailors. Because that would have also been a great story, imagine these people landing in a world 40 years ahead of their time.

And E.T. never gets old. I watched it a year ago with my little guy (8 at the time) and he loved it, and I cried like the first time, when I was 9 years old!  :laugh:
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 04, 2019, 11:57:14 AM
^^^^^^

Just wondering, which versions of these films are you watching?
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 04, 2019, 11:58:49 AM
...sounds like a good plan for the summertime.

Wouldn't it be great to watch Close Encounters outside at night under a clear sky?
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Post by: Gazapete on June 04, 2019, 12:03:57 PM
I haven't seen Close Encounters since ... well, forever. At my parents is still the VHS tape, probably recorded in the 80s from TV. I only need a VHS player! Anyway you can guess that's not a quality version, even worse, it's dubbed in Spanish and there are probably even tv commercials on it.

The E.T. one is the "modified" version with the added parts and the missing guns. I tried to get the original one, I like it much better, to be honest, but I couldn't find it, or found it at astronomical prices.
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Post by: Gazapete on June 04, 2019, 12:05:26 PM
Wouldn't it be great to watch Close Encounters outside at night under a clear sky?

That would be amazing. I'm hoping for some open air cinema to show these kind of movies! There are many here in Summer, but they show the newest movies. Imagine making a Spielberg night with CE, E.T. and Jaws to spoil the bathing season!
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Post by: Sara B on June 04, 2019, 12:07:57 PM
I rewatched ET with the grandchildren a couple  of years ago too. They were about 9 and 10, and loved it. I did too, and cried buckets.
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Post by: Uli on June 04, 2019, 12:28:47 PM
Confession time.... I have never seen E.T.    :"> :laugh:
I think I was still the appropriate age when it came out... (13) and also generally went to the cinema back then...I think it really didn‘t appeal to me, the look of the creature etc.

I sometimes wonder what is wrong with me, as there are quite a few iconic movies I haven‘t watched.  :laugh:
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Post by: Gazapete on June 04, 2019, 12:32:20 PM
It's never too late, Uli! Crying guaranteed at any age!
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Post by: Sara B on June 04, 2019, 12:37:50 PM
You really should, Uli!
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on June 04, 2019, 04:35:17 PM
I have never seen E.T.    :"> :laugh:

Me neither.

And I don't intend to.
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Post by: Sara B on June 04, 2019, 04:37:15 PM
You’re missing a good film!
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 04, 2019, 07:57:52 PM
Confession time.... I have never seen E.T.    :"> :laugh:
I think I was still the appropriate age when it came out.

I was the appropriate age when E.T. came out. I was 24. ...  :laugh:

(I don't mean it's a film for adults. I mean I was a big kid.  :D )
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on June 05, 2019, 12:55:18 AM
You’re missing a good film!

I doubt it - and I've seen plenty other good films already.  ;)
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on June 05, 2019, 12:55:51 AM

Now, E.T.'s coming out, that's something I'd like to see!   ;D
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 05, 2019, 09:40:32 AM
I was the appropriate age when E.T. came out. I was 24. ...  :laugh:
(I don't mean it's a film for adults. I mean I was a big kid.  :D )

The film IS for adults, it's for everyone.

You’re missing a good film!

I doubt it - [...]

There's a story there?

For those who have seen E.T. this statement just sounds so foreign to the experience of seeing the film, akin to those
who make such statements about Brokeback Mountain that haven't seen it, and refuse to.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 05, 2019, 09:40:56 AM
Now, E.T.'s coming out, that's something I'd like to see!   ;D

In the film, E.T. actually does come out of the closet.
In drag no less.

(https://i.redd.it/wa161d8xf7011.jpg)
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 05, 2019, 10:03:23 AM
The film IS for adults, it's for everyone.

Sure enough! I should have said "adults only."
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Post by: morrobay on June 05, 2019, 10:37:28 AM
Sundance channel is playing Field Of Dreams a lot, it's on now.  It's on my top 10...although I'm pretty sure I have about 15 movies on my top 10  ::)
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Post by: Gazapete on June 05, 2019, 10:49:40 AM
In the film, E.T. actually does come out of the closet.
In drag no less.

(https://i.redd.it/wa161d8xf7011.jpg)

 :laugh:

Hm, we don't actually know if it's a boy or a girl, do we?

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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 05, 2019, 11:59:33 AM
^^^

Actually, Spielberg (and the screenwriter) state that E.T. is neither male nor female.
In fact, E.T. is a plant-like creature, not an animal, and has no gender whatsoever.

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Post by: Uli on June 05, 2019, 12:28:37 PM
The film IS for adults, it's for everyone.

I doubt it - [...]


There's a story there?

For those who have seen E.T. this statement just sounds so foreign to the experience of seeing the film, akin to those
who make such statements about Brokeback Mountain that haven't seen it, and refuse to.

Ha, well, there‘s some truth to it...

I wouldn‘t say that it‘s a bad movie, though, cause of course how could I know.
In my case it really just is that the little I know about the movie just doesn‘t really make me want to watch it. Compare it to people who would not go and watch a super hero movie, or a western, or a thriller, whatever, because they don‘t feel those are the right movies for them...
If it ever is shown on German TV again, I might reconsider and try to watch it... But who knows when that will be....

(And like I wrote, this is not the only classic... Casablanca? Star Wars?  :laugh:)
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 05, 2019, 01:34:44 PM
Casablanca?

A very good movie, but overrated in my opinion. Love Claude Rains as the prefect of police. You could even say I watch this movie for him instead of for Bogie and Bergman.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 05, 2019, 01:42:52 PM
If it ever is shown on German TV again, I might reconsider and try to watch it... But who knows when that will be....

How would you say this in German:

"E.T. phone home."

The Spanish subtitles on my dvd say:  "E.T. telefono de casa."

The French subtitles say: "E.T. téléphone à la maison."
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 05, 2019, 01:52:36 PM
A very good movie, but overrated in my opinion.

Because Casablanca is such a beloved classic, I have seen it more times than I care to, because I just don't get what the appeal of that film is.
That's why I've tried watching it many times to see if I can figure out why. I find it kind of dull, though you'd think it was right up my alley. I've
seen it on TV with commercials, then on videocassette. I've seen it colorized. I've seen it in a movie theatre. I guess I'll just have to not get why
it appeals to so many people.

I once heard something that gave me a clue as to why I feel the way I do. I like movies written and directed with a clear sense of the journey
one is on. Like you know you'll be heading to a conclusion. A resolution. So I've never been a fan of films that are made doing improvised scenes,
which feel to me like they're going nowhere half the time. (Which is why most Mike Leigh films are not my cup of tea.) So I had seen a film
documentary where part of it was talking about Casablanca and that the director and screenwriter(s) did not have an ending for the film. Howard
Koch said they didn't have an ending the day he was driving to the studio to film it. So that may be why the film doesn't feel right to me. They
didn't know where the film was heading and so it might feel aimless to me while watching it. It drifts.

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Post by: Uli on June 05, 2019, 03:14:32 PM
How would you say this in German:

"E.T. phone home."

The Spanish subtitles on my dvd say:  "E.T. telefono de casa."

The French subtitles say: "E.T. téléphone à la maison."

It’s „E.T. nach Hause telefonieren“  :)
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on June 05, 2019, 03:51:07 PM
For those who have seen E.T. this statement just sounds so foreign to the experience of seeing the film, akin to those
who make such statements about Brokeback Mountain that haven't seen it, and refuse to.

Possible.

I guess we're all cultivating prejudices somewhere, some time...

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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on June 05, 2019, 03:51:23 PM
In the film, E.T. actually does come out of the closet.
In drag no less.

LOL
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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on June 05, 2019, 03:51:45 PM
:laugh:

Hm, we don't actually know if it's a boy or a girl, do we?

Gender issues!!
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Post by: Sara B on June 05, 2019, 04:14:20 PM
None of them has the same resonance!
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Post by: gattaca on June 05, 2019, 05:32:37 PM
Sundance channel is playing Field Of Dreams a lot, it's on now.  It's on my top 10...although I'm pretty sure I have about 15 movies on my top 10  ::)

Loved the film..seen it many, many times.  It's in my top 5 and remains one of the few posters hanging on my wall.  I just fell head-over-heels for Costner in this role.  Gives me chill bumps just thinking about how well composed and genuine the film is and what it represents. If you liked FoD, you might like the novel written by Dwier Brown who played John Kinsella, Ray's father.  -> https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/22039108-if-you-build-it

Later, V.
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Post by: Gazapete on June 06, 2019, 12:09:43 AM
How would you say this in German:

"E.T. phone home."

The Spanish subtitles on my dvd say:  "E.T. telefono de casa."

The French subtitles say: "E.T. téléphone à la maison."

In Spanish it is "E.T. teléfono mi casa."

The "mi" is important, mi casa is home, de casa is just in the house.
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Post by: Gazapete on June 06, 2019, 12:12:04 AM
None of them has the same resonance!

That's because you didn't see it in Spanish as a nine year old!

Telééfono. Mi caasa, mi caaasa. *containing tears*
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 06, 2019, 02:01:03 PM

So the French should be "ma" maison, too, I would expect!



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Post by: ingmarnicebbmt on June 07, 2019, 01:39:23 AM

Yep.
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Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 07, 2019, 07:29:29 AM
Last night it was The Longest Day on TCM. it seemed kind of a duty, and as usual I was multitasking so I'm sure I missed a lot and should watch again some day--all three hours of it.

What really astonished me--because I wasn't expecting it--was that the Germans actually spoke German! And the French spoke French!

I'd read that the cast is astonishing, and it sure is. So many I didn't recognize, but many may also have had only a very brief screen time.

Of course, right off the bat I recognized John Wayne, Henry Fonda, Richard Burton, and Robert Mitchum (who wouldn't?)--but also Red Buttons!  :laugh: I think Eddie Albert may have been the first "name" I recognized before the others appeared on screen. I recognized Peter Lawford, too (the voice is unmistakable). I also recognized the British actor Leo Genn--he's another one with an unmistakable voice. But there were so many. ... The list of the cast on the closing credits really did astonish me. Names like Richard Beymer, Paul Anka (!), and Jeffrey Hunter (I thought it odd that he was listed in the credits as "Jeff Hunter"). So many others I can't even remember this morning.

It would be interesting to know how so many stars as well as journeyman actors got into the cast.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 08, 2019, 10:53:07 AM

--E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial

All the talk of this movie in here lately made me feel like watching it again, which I did last night.  :)
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Post by: Gazapete on June 08, 2019, 12:26:01 PM
How was the experience, Lyle? I have to confess that I too had the DVD in the hand, but my computer was being monopolised by the little one.
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 08, 2019, 02:16:46 PM
^^^

You know, a lot of what I was thinking about while watching it was about my experience in 1982 when it came out.
(It was released 37 years ago this coming Tuesday!) The excitement of all the people waiting in line just to get tickets
for a show several hours later, the people I knew then and the place I lived and thinking how young I was back then. It
was very exciting to see this film when it came out. People were talking about it and you wanted to share it with others.
And I saw it with others again that summer once or twice. We'd buy Reeses Pieces to eat in the scenes when they pop up
in the film. I remembered when a friend and I went to a coffee shop to eat and we passed a pay phone where someone had
scrawled "E.T. Phone Home" on it. This was all new then.

I also marveled at how really good the three young actors are in this film, not a false note among them...Henry Thomas,
Robert MacNaughton and Drew Barrymore. The movie still works it's magic. I really cannot remember the last time I saw
the film, so it's been a long time. I have a way bigger TV now than I used to, so the visual experience was way better, too.

I'm glad I watched it again!
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Post by: Lyle (Mooska) on June 08, 2019, 02:35:32 PM

I want to relate another E.T. experience. I mentioned before a time or two I met a celebrity at a VSDA Convention when they were promoting something. These conventions were for the Video Software Dealers of America who promoted and sold, at the time, VHS cassettes and such, which included DVD's in the mid to late 90's. I attended a few of these conventions because of where I worked.

One summer Universal Studios was going to re-promote E.T. on home video. I don't recall now, but maybe it was coming out on DVD, but at their convention booth one of the days they were going to have the E.T. stars there to sign photos.  They also had a photo souvenir where you could have your own photo taken and your face would be superimposed into the shot of Elliott with the red hoodie on riding his bike and E.T. is in the basket attached to the bike. So I have one of those photos of me as Elliott riding the bike!

So, Drew Barrymore was either not going to be there for whatever reason or she didn't show. (This was her acting up period!) But I did meet and got autographed photos of Dee Wallace, Robert MacNaughton and Henry Thomas. That photo I mentioned getting above was inserted into a cardboard frame that opened like a card. I thought it would be amusing to have them sign that card instead of one of the photos, though I still wanted to have the photos, but all three of them were gracious and signed both!

I remembered that Henry Thomas first looked at the card/photo (of my face on him) and looked confused. Robert MacNaughton told him they were doing those souvenir photos there and he playfully said to Henry, "He's taking your job, buddy!"

Also, on another day at this convention, C. Thomas Howell was making an appearance for a film he was in. He also happens to be in E.T. as one of the boys' friends (riding the bicycles) and can be seen in the background of the souvenir E.T. photo, so I had him sign that as well.
 
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Post by: morrobay on June 08, 2019, 02:40:25 PM
Lyle, when are you gonna write your book?  :)
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Post by: morrobay on June 08, 2019, 02:42:56 PM
Just watched Dial M for Murder.  I never realized how much time is spent in that movie with only music, no dialogue. 

While I was watching, I was trying to think of the name of the TV show that starred Bob Cummings in the '50s, and was able to come up with it without google..."Love That Bob".
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Post by: Gazapete on June 09, 2019, 12:19:27 AM
^^^

You know, a lot of what I was thinking about while watching it was about my experience in 1982 when it came out.
(It was released 37 years ago this coming Tuesday!) The excitement of all the people waiting in line just to get tickets
for a show several hours later, the people I knew then and the place I lived and thinking how young I was back then. It
was very exciting to see this film when it came out. People were talking about it and you wanted to share it with others.
And I saw it with others again that summer once or twice. We'd buy Reeses Pieces to eat in the scenes when they pop up
in the film. I remembered when a friend and I went to a coffee shop to eat and we passed a pay phone where someone had
scrawled "E.T. Phone Home" on it. This was all new then.

I also marveled at how really good the three young actors are in this film, not a false note among them...Henry Thomas,
Robert MacNaughton and Drew Barrymore. The movie still works it's magic. I really cannot remember the last time I saw
the film, so it's been a long time. I have a way bigger TV now than I used to, so the visual experience was way better, too.

I'm glad I watched it again!

I'm always a bit scared reliving things that impacted my childhood. Books or movies. For instance, I tried reading Enid Blyton's books to my girl and was shocked by how disappointed I was by them as an adult. And I spent years wishing to be George from the Famous Five. So I felt a bit trepidation when we watched E.T.. But I loved it just as the first time. Some things get old well :)

And I also want that book!
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Sara B on June 09, 2019, 12:48:57 AM
I'm always a bit scared reliving things that impacted my childhood. Books or movies. For instance, I tried reading Enid Blyton's books to my girl and was shocked by how disappointed I was by them as an adult. And I spent years wishing to be George from the Famous Five. So I felt a bit trepidation when we watched E.T.. But I loved it just as the first time. Some things get old well :)

And I also want that book!
Elena, I don’t think Enid Blyton really works for adults (though other children’s books certainly do)! Though I still think Malory Towers, on the Cornish cliffs, sounds a great situation for a boarding school. :)  I so remember how excited I was by my first Famous Five book. It was lent to me by some older boys (hence with added glamour) when I was seven, and I thought it was the most exciting book ever.

But it’s amazing how her books still appeal at a certain age, in particular the ‘magic’ ones, like The Faraway Tree and The Wishing Chair.

Sorry. I’m going further off-topic. :D
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Sara B on June 09, 2019, 12:51:07 AM
Lyle, I love reading about your experiences. :) And I’m glad E.T. still worked it’s magic.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Gazapete on June 09, 2019, 01:26:32 AM
Elena, I don’t think Enid Blyton really works for adults (though other children’s books certainly do)! Though I still think Malory Towers, on the Cornish cliffs, sounds a great situation for a boarding school. :)  I so remember how excited I was by my first Famous Five book. It was lent to me by some older boys (hence with added glamour) when I was seven, and I thought it was the most exciting book ever.

But it’s amazing how her books still appeal at a certain age, in particular the ‘magic’ ones, like The Faraway Tree and The Wishing Chair.

Sorry. I’m going further off-topic. :D

I loved Malory Towers, it was such a different world from mine! You will laugh, but it was so exotic  :laugh: And the Adventure series. And with that I will stop going off topic ;)
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: BlueAmber63 on June 09, 2019, 03:54:22 AM
Last night I saw the movie  " Summertime" 1955. Just a bit of "fluff" to fill the night!

It was all filmed in Venice. Main characters Kath Hepburn as Jane....and the beautiful Rossano Brazzi is Renato.

Jane is a middle aged spinster who goes on holiday to Venice ..a place she has
always longed to go. There she meets Renato...a suave but sincere man and she
loses her heart to him.
No happy ending though. She realizes that the affair will be going nowhere ...so
she leaves Venice and goes home. End !

The filming was like a travelog. Showing Venice in all it's romantic beauty.
As with BBM....I loved the beauty of the country so much ...I had to go and see it for myself.
Venice here I come. Hope it doesn't disappoint !
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: brian on June 09, 2019, 01:00:39 PM
The filming was like a travelog. Showing Venice in all it's romantic beauty.
As with BBM....I loved the beauty of the country so much ...I had to go and see it for myself.
Venice here I come. Hope it doesn't disappoint !
Oh dear. Venice is so crowded these days. I went for a few days in 1976, mid winter but then I returned for a night in 2013 and glad it was no longer. I am sure it is nothing like it was in 1955. On the other hand, I still loved Florence.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Jeff Wrangler on June 09, 2019, 06:04:45 PM
Oh dear. Venice is so crowded these days. I went for a few days in 1976, mid winter but then I returned for a night in 2013 and glad it was no longer. I am sure it is nothing like it was in 1955. On the other hand, I still loved Florence.

Some weeks ago The New Yorker magazine ran a story about what Air BnB is doing to towns and cities all over Europe (the writer's position was that, essentially, it's ruining them because of the types of people it's bringing in who would never have traveled to these places otherwise). If I remember correctly, the main example used was Barcelona, but the writer also mentioned the thousands and thousands of tourists being crowded into Venice by cruise ships.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: BlueAmber63 on June 09, 2019, 06:36:41 PM
                                                    ^^^

I really don't think I could cope with idea of not being able to travel anywhere.
But I don't relish the thought being with all of those crowds. When I went to
Florence a few years ago in April....there were no crowds anywhere. I think
it's a case of choosing the right time and moment to go to these places.
Perhaps I should watch the movie "North to Alaska" ! Would that be crowded ?? !!!!

 :D ;)
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: brian on June 09, 2019, 11:31:56 PM
I went to Alaska in 2017. June (longest day in Fairbanks). Not empty, perhaps I should have gone further north but not too crowded.
I have just put a deposit on a 16 day tour of Albania, Kosovo and Macedonia for next May. Hope these are not too crowded yet. Do not know of any relevant movies,(have just checked 'For Your Eyes Only' Bond  and 'War Dogs'). Plan to revisit Romania and Bulgaria first and Greece afterwards.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Gazapete on June 10, 2019, 01:41:19 AM
I was in Barcelona two years ago and it was nightmarish, the amount of tourists! We were with friends there and they told us it has become just impossible to get a flat in the center, all is bought by some obscure developers who then rent them as if they were private individuals on Air BnB. I love the idea behind Air BnB, but it's being annihilated. Most big cities in Europe are trying to regulate it some way, and I hope they do it well, because the city centers are turning into Disneyworld.
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Sara B on June 10, 2019, 02:34:16 AM
                                                    ^^^

I really don't think I could cope with idea of not being able to travel anywhere.
But I don't relish the thought being with all of those crowds. When I went to
Florence a few years ago in April....there were no crowds anywhere. I think
it's a case of choosing the right time and moment to go to these places.
Perhaps I should watch the movie "North to Alaska" ! Would that be crowded ?? !!!!

 :D ;)

Perhaps find out if there is a ‘best’ time to visit Venice out of season? Though I know it can be pretty chilly! But DON’T watch “Don’t Look Back” before you go. ;D
Title: Re: What Movie Did You Watch This Weekend? The Third.
Post by: Gazapete on June 10, 2019, 05:56:11 AM