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Title: G'day!
Post by: curtainonfloor on February 17, 2006, 02:33:08 AM
Hiya, i'm a 19yr old straight chick from Western Australia, with a very unhealthy obsession with Jake Gyllenhaal  after seeing Brokeback. I even learnt how to spell his name right!  :D

I absolutly love Brokeback, and have been lurking here for a while, just trying to catch up with posts before i started posting here myself. I gotta say i'm very proud of Heath, as he's a Perth boy who grew up in the hills, just 10 mins drive away from me and now he's a huge hollywood star!!!  :o

Umm, i'm a 2nd year Archaeology student at Uni, and i have a guinea pig. Thats all you need to know hehe  :D
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: killersmom on February 17, 2006, 02:54:46 AM
Hiya, i'm a 19yr old straight chick from Western Australia, with a very unhealthy obsession with Jake Gyllenhaal  after seeing Brokeback. I even learnt how to spell his name right!  :D

I absolutly love Brokeback, and have been lurking here for a while, just trying to catch up with posts before i started posting here myself. I gotta say i'm very proud of Heath, as he's a Perth boy who grew up in the hills, just 10 mins drive away from me and now he's a huge hollywood star!!!  :o

Umm, i'm a 2nd year Archaeology student at Uni, and i have a guinea pig. Thats all you need to know hehe  :D

Back at ya, curtainonfloor, from down under. I don't think you will find, as you probably know from lurking that no one here has an unhealthy obsession about Jake or anything related to BBM. How lucky you are to live in such a beautiful country, and so close to where Heath grew up no less ;)

Thanks for posting with us here, now go on the threads you have been reading and jump in.  Post a picture of yourself with us or that of your guinea pig, as we have a thread for that as well.

Thanks for coming aboard.

killersmom
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: jack on February 17, 2006, 12:05:55 PM
and while you're looking, i hope you find the dedicated under 25 thread, where you will find other members your age to chat with and share your points of view.

welcome,

jack
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Dave Cullen on February 23, 2006, 09:28:53 PM
Hey, we're starting some international threads.

Are there any other aussies out there who want an area all your own?

Do you want to make this it, or start a new thread?

(You can just answer here--Killersmom, keep me posted.)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on March 01, 2006, 02:42:34 AM
I am an Aussie who has been blown away by Brokeback. I am about the same age as the guys in Brokeback would have been and am well aware of the closets in which most of us of that age have grown up. I am particularly worried at the moment about a friend who suffers from depression and has just written to me to tell me about the very deep depression he experienced after seeing Brokeback. We knew each other at university in our late teens but then met 30 years later as we approached retirement and discovered we had both been wrestling with our homosexuality at the same time and undergoing psychiatric treatment. He had it much worse than I did. I had a supportive family while his father was a religious bastard who sent him for 12 months treatment. Unfortunately he lives about 150 km away and does not use computers. We both live alone and I think it was our early experiences that make it difficult for us to develop a close ongoing relationship today. For other Aussies, I live in the Blue Mountains and he lives in the Southern Highlands which cis a much more right wing area.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: killersmom on March 01, 2006, 02:57:04 AM
I am an Aussie who has been blown away by Brokeback. I am about the same age as the guys in Brokeback would have been and am well aware of the closets in which most of us of that age have grown up. I am particularly worried at the moment about a friend who suffers from depression and has just written to me to tell me about the very deep depression he experienced after seeing Brokeback. We knew each other at university in our late teens but then met 30 years later as we approached retirement and discovered we had both been wrestling with our homosexuality at the same time and undergoing psychiatric treatment. He had it much worse than I did. I had a supportive family while his father was a religious bastard who sent him for 12 months treatment. Unfortunately he lives about 150 km away and does not use computers. We both live alone and I think it was our early experiences that make it difficult for us to develop a close ongoing relationship today. For other Aussies, I live in the Blue Mountains and he lives in the Southern Highlands which cis a much more right wing area.

brianr, thanks so much for posting you story and sharing it with us. The movie means so much to so many. We are trying to get more Aussies on here and maybe some help may be forth coming for your friend from someone who may live closer.
Thanks again.
killlersmom
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ImEnnisShesJack on March 01, 2006, 08:11:28 AM
Welcome curtainonfloor and brianr!!!

Come in and get comfy.  kick your shoes off, open your mind and bare your soul.  There are discussions ranging from serious to silly.  Some BBM related, some not.  Start off with the Meet & Greet and post your picture then make your way around. 

Curtain, you should check out the Jake threads...yummy pics, squee if you want it, and serious talk about the man and his career.

Brian, your story is amazingly similar to so many here.  You should try posting it in the "Your Brokeback Story" thread and let healing begin.  You'd be amazed by the support generated here.  You aren't alone.  Best wishes to you.

Heidi

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Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: boy from oz on March 19, 2006, 03:23:20 AM
G'day perhaps Brian, you can keep in regular contact with your friend, so he knows you are there for him in case he does not know this already. The Brokeback mountain movie is wonderful,with a very talented Aussie actor in the cast and it is a very moving movie.

The messages I take away from this movie is to never let things go unsaid, don't be afraid to be yourself, (but this is sometimes easier said then done). We are who we are and once we can accept this onlythen  can we truely love another. I hope things work out between you, Brain and your mate.

I have read alot on here in the various forums and would like to thank all the straight men and women who have been touched and chaged by this poweful movie and finally to all the mom's, dads, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, cousin, friends and work mates who may have a gay family member or a gay freind, but love and support them because this makes no different to them.
god bless you all
boy from oz.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: TexRob on March 19, 2006, 01:38:17 PM
Hiya, i'm a 19yr old straight chick from Western Australia, with a very unhealthy obsession with Jake Gyllenhaal  after seeing Brokeback. I even learnt how to spell his name right!  :D

Hi curtainonfloor --

There is no such thing as an unhealty obesession when it comes to Jake Gyllenhaal. All such obesessions with him are healthy!  Frankly, I think even the hair he sheds should be auctioned off on ebay. 

I think you're going to love the "Jake's Eyelashes" thread we have going on.

Do Western Australians have a special love for Heath Ledger, too?  He's from Perth.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on March 19, 2006, 02:15:43 PM
G'day perhaps Brian, you can keep in regular contact with your friend, so he knows you are there for him in case he does not know this already.god bless you all
boy from oz.
Thanks boy from oz. Actually things have improved and I will take the liberty of reposting  from how Brokeback affected me to show how things have progressed with my friend,
Our Story
In the early sixties there were 4 guys studying at university in their late teens. David, Malcolm, John and Brian ( the writer).
David was straight the other three were gay but had no understanding  of what that meant and felt they were each alone in the world with their feelings. They used to rush to be the one who sat next to David in lectures. He was very good looking.
Eventually they all attended David’s wedding. John was more open in his infatuation with David who use to try and get away from him at university and after he was married had to tell him to get lost as he was making his young wife very uncomfortable.
 Eventually they all went their separate ways except for Brian and David who had the same careers and therefore professional contacts kept them in touch.  We know no more about John but Brian and Malcolm both went through various forms of psychiatric treatment to try and cure their homosexual illness which were of course unsuccessful. Both became engaged but fortunately did not proceed to the marriage as they realised the treatments had not worked and their orientation was clearly homosexual.  However neither was successful in forming a long term relationship.
Many years passed and as retirement approached Malcolm contacted Brian having seen his name on gay networks and their friendship was renewed. They travelled to Paris together and attended symphony concerts. Unfortunately they live a good 3 hours drive apart. They chuckled about their unspoken infatuation with David that had made them rivals all those years ago.
Then during a long drive to the funeral of another friend of all those years ago, David told Brian that one of his 3 children was gay and Brian came out to him. David wanted help in understanding his son. He is really the most wonderful guy, his greatest disappointment is that it took his son nearly 10 years to come out to him and he regrets the pain his son went through.
Anyway Malcolm told Brian how Brokeback had affected him and put him into a deep depression, His psychiatric treatment all those years ago was horrendous. Brian  told David and David’s immediate reaction was “Can we go visit him”
So yesterday we got to together for lunch and a walk in the nearby bush. It had been nearly 40 years since we had been together and Malcolm was so thankful that David wanted to see him. He was close to tears as he told David about his youthful infatuation and some of  the things he went through. David’s reply was “For what you two guys have been through it is amazing  you are both still so normal”
He is really sorry for how he treated John and would like to contact him. But as I said to him   “You were not to blame, other guys might have punched his face in. In a more accepting society he would have been able to talk it over with his gay friends and have had outlets to find other gay friendships.”  I do have a contact number for John but knowing nothing about him nowadays. I wonder whether it might drag up old wounds. I have to give this a lot of thought however while I had often contemplated a reunion it was Brokeback that caused David to initiate it which meant far more to Malcolm.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: boy from oz on March 20, 2006, 12:12:24 AM
G'day, the boy from oz, here, I'm in my early 40's, a gay male and live in South Australia. like most Aussies I have a warped sense of humour and I'm pretty laid back, not a lot phases me with life and the people whom cross my path in life. I love my fellow Aussies, we have so much talent in this country that I'm so proud of, Heath Ledger, Russell Crowe, (formerly a New Zealand but we have adopted him), Naomi Watts, Nicole Kidman, Kate Blanchett, and all they have achieved with their careers and these are just some of our talented Aussies, with some many I could mention but, might run out of room. As Aussie's, we all understand they need to head to the USA, to make their dreams a reality, you might be able to lure them out of Australia, but hopefully you will never take Australia out of them, like a lot of countries we are sports mad, and again I'm so proud of all our Aussie sports men and woman, for the size of our population, we are are up there with the best of them.we are the "lucky country" that is for sure.

I love this forum dedicate to like minded folk, whom share with the magic, the power and the love of the Brokeback mountain movie.
Regards,
boy from oz

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: jack on March 20, 2006, 04:32:20 AM
you forgot peter allen :(
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: aussiec54 on April 20, 2006, 11:35:13 PM
G'day, the boy from oz, here, I'm in my early 40's, a gay male and live in South Australia.

Hi there!  I'm a straight female, a llitte bit older than you, but also from South Oz.  Great to see other Croweaters at this forum.

A question for other Aussies here  (sorry if it's been mentioned elsewhere, but I haven't been around for a week or so):

When's the BM DVD being released in Australia?  I thought it was sometime next week, but haven't been able to find a date at any of the local DVD stores' web-sites.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on April 21, 2006, 02:14:35 AM
Heya all..I'm from sunny Queensland and been on this wonderful forum for a couple a months now...
Everyone is just soooo friendly, I've met some wonderful people, couldn't know any nicer.

To answer your question, the DVD is out at the end of August -huge bummer hey?
Lucky I've got a special screening copy sent to me by a member of this forum..see what I mean bout the type of people hang out here? This place is like home...no-one I know locally, friends or family shares or understands my BBM obsession.
Hope to see you all round.  :)
We need more Aussies! Tasmanic hangs out on the Eyelashes thread, thats the only other Aussie I know...so welcome all!!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Nick_F on April 21, 2006, 04:12:17 AM
G'day all

I am hoping to promote the "international" threads around the forums in the next couple of days. Maybe we can collect some more aussies!

Gonna make this thread sticky so it stays at the top of the list for a while to see if it gets noticed more.....

Nick
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: jack on April 21, 2006, 06:00:59 AM
anyone know what has become of ozwitch?  saw her quite regularly in the pre-pscar days, but haven't seen her since the shakeup following.

jack 
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Casper on April 21, 2006, 12:18:23 PM
curtainonfloor, I admire you for your studies in Archaeology. 
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: aussiec54 on April 21, 2006, 11:40:22 PM

To answer your question, the DVD is out at the end of August -huge bummer hey?


August! 

Blimey.

Perhaps they're waiting for a special edition DVD before they release it here? I wonder why there's such a long wait?  We're always late to get everything.  
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on April 21, 2006, 11:47:50 PM
anyone know what has become of ozwitch?  saw her quite regularly in the pre-pscar days, but haven't seen her since the shakeup following.

jack 

Yeah, I've been wondering the same thing Jack...Ozwitch was in the thick with us all through the Oscars etc then she's disappeared...I've sent her a couple of pm's but no reply...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on April 21, 2006, 11:49:49 PM

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August! 

Blimey.

Perhaps they're waiting for a special edition DVD before they release it here? I wonder why there's such a long wait?  We're always late to get everything. 
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I know, it truly sucks, doesn't it...I think the U.K has just released theirs...I watch my dvd regularly at ,least once fully every couple of days and the usual reunion, mountain scenes, FNIT and SNIT every day....so I can truly sympathise.  :'(
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: calgaryactor on April 23, 2006, 02:18:09 PM
you forgot peter allen

And Helen Reddy!  Love her or hate her, one has to respect the historical importance of I AM WOMAN, which became an anthem for a lot of disenfranchised people.  Helen's autobiography (which has been out in Australia for over a year) is being released in North America in May 2006.  I was at her farewell concert in Edmonton on Nov 16, 2002, and it was actually quite a moving experience.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Vani21 on April 24, 2006, 09:28:23 PM

Hi!
I'm a 22 year old chick from the ACT in Oz,I was overwhelmed each of the 8 times I saw Brokeback and each and every time I read the story,
I'm a 2nd year Asian studies student, I spent some time in Japan with my two boyfriends before I came home for Uni, I've been catching up on posts as well and this is my second ever post here.  :D I spend my spare time baking, writing, painting, online and out at clubs with friends. :)  I'm glad I joined these forums, cos I feel I can be free here and that I won't face any judgement for being in a triad as I have in other forums.

Ni
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on April 26, 2006, 01:53:27 AM
Brokeback Mountain has largely disappeared from the screens in the city of Sydney but up here in the Blue Mountains to the west it is opening for a week  on May 1 in a small community theatre with a small screen. I have known this for a few months as they advertise their program way ahead. We have another theatre in the upper Mountains which shows Tourist films during the day on a giant screen. In the evenings it shows regular movies and while they are not giant they are much larger than usual cinemas. Viewing the Lord of the Rings movies there was amazing. They do not advertise very much ahead and I just looked.  Brokeback Mountain is coming there on May 11. I am over the moon and can hardly wait All my dreams are coming true  ;D
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: estefue on April 27, 2006, 05:27:10 PM
You guys are sooo lucky!  It left NY screens weeks ago...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Aussie Bloke on April 30, 2006, 10:08:45 PM
G'day fellow Aussies. I'm 42 years young  living on 30 acres in the Strathbogie Ranges of NW Vic with my two dogs, a year old Kelpie-Heeler and a 3 month old Jack Russell - Foxy. We're 150 km from Melbourne on the Hume Hwy and get down to Melbourne quite a fair bit - all the family are down there. School-teacher. Been here 9 years.
Single.  Have just moved a house onto my block but still living in the shed at the moment. Looking forward to getting to know all on the site, and have had a great time reading others posts, particularly about the oscars snub.
Anybody interested in trying to organise an Aussie Brokeback party to coincide with the one benig planned Stateside ? I'm sure we could make a fun time of it and maybe get online to the States. Only prob with my place is the shocking internet connection.
I wanted to catch the film one more time at the cinema but see that it is going off the screens in melb this week so might miss out.
August seems like a long time to wait for the DVD, doesnt it ?
See you later. ;)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on May 01, 2006, 11:08:15 PM
Folks, my UK DVD arrived from amazon.co.uk this morning. It plays fine on my all regions el cheapo K-Mart $109 Magnavox player. And if you pay by card the cost is only about $36.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Phantom on May 01, 2006, 11:23:30 PM
Hiya, i'm a 19yr old straight chick from Western Australia, with a very unhealthy obsession with Jake Gyllenhaal  after seeing Brokeback. I even learnt how to spell his name right!  :D

I absolutly love Brokeback, and have been lurking here for a while, just trying to catch up with posts before i started posting here myself. I gotta say i'm very proud of Heath, as he's a Perth boy who grew up in the hills, just 10 mins drive away from me and now he's a huge hollywood star!!!  :o

Umm, i'm a 2nd year Archaeology student at Uni, and i have a guinea pig. Thats all you need to know hehe  :D

I've been known to like a chick or two from Australia... see signature  ;)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: BBM-Intern on May 03, 2006, 08:35:27 AM
Hi everyone in our beautiful city of Brisbane (and friends worldwide too),

I see that Schonell Theatre at the University of Queensland is going to be screening BBM from May 11 onwards.  Another chance to see it on the big screen, not that I need another reason to go.

But I was wondering if there was anyone else interested in going along - we can form a posse and rock up in our cowboy gear.  Imagine, a whole bunch of us dressed like Ennis or Jack, or Alma or Lureen turning up at the film.  It'll be so cool - besides the folks who go to the uni cinema are usually very liberal-alternative, so we might even have an appreciative audience.

BTW, my obsession continues, I'm going as Jack f***in' Twist!!  Been viewing my copy of BBM on 50" screen at home and it looks darn good!  Have it on my PDA so I can watch it on the way to and back from work, crazy or what!!

Talk to y'all later.

Lem
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 04, 2006, 09:11:38 PM
Greetings, G'dayers

Can't tell you how pleased I was to log on and find an Aussie thread  :).  While we're all here for the same reason, it's going to be great to chat to others in the Land That DVD's Forgot.

FTR, I'm 42, married, 2 kids, live in Blue Mountains.  I've seen BBM 5 times at cinema, and about 5 on DVD (I ordered mine from Amazon and got it a week after it was released in the States).  My obsession kicked in a few hours after viewing #1, and grew steadily 'worse'.  I consider myself very lucky indeed, to have three dear friends who share my obsession, and a husband who tolerates what I chose to allow him to see of it  :P.

Brianr, it would appear we're neighbours.  I read your posts with great interest my dear, and you have me wondering if our beloved mountains aren't harbouring more than the national per capita average of Brokeaholics!  Would probably be quite fitting if so - given we're all a bunch of raving lefty liberals who love nature  ;).   

Isn't it fabulous to know we get another turn (or two, or seven) at seeing our film on the big screen - and not just one big screen either!  I'm already locked in to go to G'brook next wednesday, so will now work on getting up to the other venue as well.  I'm VERY curious to see just how many turn up to G'brook, and what demographic they are etc.  We must compare notes in this regard!  Hey, just had a funny thought ..... I can see myself trying to identify you in the cinema crowd.  I have nothing to go on of course, but any male over the age of 50 is going to be fair game I think  ;D ;D ;D.

Aussie Bloke, hello to you!  Your lifestyle sounds idyllic - especially the bit about the kelpie - I have two of the brown devils myself  ;).  We've recently move to the Mtns after many years on an acreage down on the plains, and another SNAP, we also lived in a relocated house!  Are you on tank water there? And what do you teach? These and other things we must know!  ;D

I like your idea for a BBQ or some sort of get-together.  It's starting to look as tho it's possible for the east coast at least.  Certainly I'd be in anything that could be arranged, assuming him-indoors gives me a leave pass ::).  Might take some organising, and some thought on location etc, but we can make it happen, surely!

Hi to all the other G'dayers.  Will try to keep up with the thread and get to know you all a bit better!

In closing, I'd like to talk a little about my recent BBM 'stuff'.  Last weekend we went to a big agricultural show about 40 mins away (Brianr, that'd be Hawskbury, in case yr wondering.  Put it in yr diary for next year, for the following reasons).  We ostensibly went to give our kids more exposure to the particular brand of entertainment that an ag show is, and to catch up with some horse world friends.  Can I just say that at one point, there was Ennis' and Jacks from horizon to horizon.   I actually had to sit down for a bit there, since the old legs were getting way too wobbly for further ambulation.  I've always been fond of a bit of visual stimuli in the form of good looking cowboys peering out from under stetson brims, but this was another kettle of boys altogether.  There was an unnatural preponderance of handsome faces and glorious behinds clad in Wranglers.  I was forced to wonder whether or not some of these lads had secretly seen BBM and decided to up the ante, glamour wise  ;D.  Either way, a fine time was had by yours truly  :P.

On a bleaker note, I stupidly read some really awful reviews of BBM that had hid themselves in a batch of glowing ones.  I tell ya, these guys (and they were almost ALL written by gay males) seemed to miss the point entirely, and harped on about it setting the gay agenda back 30 years.  They took great pains to point out that 1960's rural men could and did live together, ergo the whole premis of BBM was inaccurate and diabolically designed to incite further misunderstanding, etc etc, ad nauseum.  HELLO, boys, maybe OTHER gay men lived together, but these two didn't because ENNIS was one of them.  The point of the exercise was to tell a story about ONE particular gay man's journey, not the journey of all rural 1960's gay men.  Lordy me but some folk are slappable.  Anyhoo, it all depressed me so much that I was COMPELLED to stay up til midnight last night watching it again. It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it.

Cheers

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Nick_F on May 05, 2006, 02:54:34 AM
The land that DVDs forgot!

Surely not? Are the release schedules really that far behind us in the UK?

Thanks for all the posts everybody. Remember if you spot other Aussies around the forum, please direct them here and get them to chat. I can think of 2 or 3 others that are members here, but may not have this place.

Cheers

Nick_F
Team Cullen
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: jack on May 05, 2006, 02:51:46 PM
have y'all seen the article that ran in an australian paper of magazine about the striking young "cowboy" who became a friend of heath's.  he seemed to have successfully negotiated the rocky journey to self acceptance, and was totally adoptable.  i think i saved a picture of him somewhere on my hard drive.  it is definitely worth seeking out the article.

jack 
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 05, 2006, 04:45:10 PM
repeating my post on another thread

I am not sure where to put this so I may double post. Apologies
 I have just opened our City newspaper - Sydney Australia to find this as frontpage news (it is Gay Mardi Gras procession tonight)
"IT WAS the script that changed Heath Ledger's life - and when he read Brokeback Mountain he knew he had a friend reflected in its pages.



I've just read this script, Ledger later told his mate, Adam Sutton, and it sounds a lot like you. It was a film about a gay cowboy, and the actor was right; Sutton knew more than a bit about that."

Continues at
http://www.smh.com.au/news/arts/meet-heaths-mate/2006/03/03/1141191845952.html]]
There has been a sequel in a 30 minute television program  part of a series called "Australian Story"
For Australians it will be repeated next Saturday on ABC and I believe is on ABC2 regularly for those with the technology.
For others the transcript is at:
http://www.abc.net.au/austory/http://
Some quotes
The original newspaper journalist
'I met Adam three years ago. When 'Brokeback' came out and had the impact that it did, I thought the great untold 'Brokeback' story was that Adam's friend Heath was pretending to play a gay cowboy, and he was the real one and they were mates, and nobody knew. The story ran on the front page of the paper two days before the Oscars when Heath was nominated for Best Actor. It flew off the shelves and was a 5-year sales record. I think what touched people was his courage. The fact that anyone would be willing to put themselves on the line to that extent.'
Adam:
'I was lucky enough to spend a bit of time on location with 'Brokeback Mountain', and it's an amazing movie. I could directly put myself in the shoes of those two people in that film. It was like my 'Brokeback Mountain' story, myself. '
and he finishes:
'I'm now putting myself in touch with my feelings and my emotions instead of arguing with them. And that has made me a braver, stronger person because I know trust in myself, what I think, what I think is right and what I think is wrong. There is a stereotype cowboy sort of person. That rough and rugged ready-to-go sort of type. And there's your stereotype gay person. And I know that I've now been able to combine the two and break both moulds. And I look back and think how silly I was sometimes for maybe keeping it a secret and bottling it up inside. Now they're out, it's a wonderful feeling.'

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 05, 2006, 05:14:32 PM
  Brianr, it would appear we're neighbours.  I read your posts with great interest my dear, and you have me wondering if our beloved mountains aren't harbouring more than the national per capita average of Brokeaholics!  Would probably be quite fitting if so - given we're all a bunch of raving lefty liberals who love nature  ;).   

Isn't it fabulous to know we get another turn (or two, or seven) at seeing our film on the big screen - and not just one big screen either!  I'm already locked in to go to G'brook next wednesday, so will now work on getting up to the other venue as well.  I'm VERY curious to see just how many turn up to G'brook, and what demographic they are etc.  We must compare notes in this regard!  Hey, just had a funny thought ..... I can see myself trying to identify you in the cinema crowd.  I have nothing to go on of course, but any male over the age of 50 is going to be fair game I think  ;D ;D ;D.
Hi Wolf
Glad to hear from you. I went to the first Glenbrook showing of BBN last Thursday night with Madamshawshank whom I met on these pages but met for the first time in person that night. There was only a small number present. I always find the Glenbrook screen a bit small and so am looking forward to seeing it at the Edge next week but have not yet decided on the time. My life is in a bit of a turmoil with my mother in hospital. (She is 96 and almost blind so needs my sister or me there most of the day, )
We  are having a Brokeback get together for people near Sydney in June (I think).  Madamshawshank has the details. You can learn about me at my webpage http://home.pacific.net.au/~brianralph/
Being over 60 and mostly retired (I do casual teaching still) I no longer care who knows about me However I hope the politics does not annoy you :).
By the way I am the same age as Ennis and I would never have dreamed of setting up with a guy in the 60's and I lived in Sydney. I know some guys did but they were few in number and usually not in careers like teaching and definitely not in rural areas.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 06, 2006, 07:20:14 PM
G'day, G'dayers  :)

To those who mentioned it, Adam Sutton's (Heath's gay mate) spot on Australian Stories was great viewing.  BBM soundtrack got a workout too  ;D.  Incidentally, Jack, Mr Sutton cuts a fine figure in the saddle.  Adoptable indeed  ;)!

Brianr, thanks for the info re: the social in June - tho don't know how to locate Madameshawshank  :-\.  I suppose if she's a Mtns resident (from memory, she is), she's bound to turn up here sooner or later!  Would very much like to know the details, if they're available at this stage.

Also, thanks for the tip off regarding Glenbrook's pokey screen.  I did not know that!  Despite having lived in the area for 18mths, I've not yet been.  Think I'll still go - just in case I can't get to The Edge.  Can't waste ANY opportunity to see it on the big screen! 

Interesting to hear you mention Sydney being entirely gay-unfriendly in the 60's.  A former colleague of mine, who is in his mid-sixties now and retired, is in same boat, as it were.  He's lived his entire live in the Penrith area and has always had to maintain a 'low-profile' up until fairly recently.  Has not, to my knowledge, ever lived with a partner, but remained in the family home caring for his parents until their respective departures.  I must say, I found the idea that Ennis and Jack's story was preposterous, preposterous!

I note you're in beautiful Woodford.  We came close to buying a rambling old stone house on 15 acres there recently, but in the end decided our renovation fatigue was too pronounced to allow a project of that magnitude.    Is the bed & breakfast your business?  Looks gorgeous  :).

FTR, I visited your website and wasn't remotely discombobulated by your politics.  As a long term employee of that particular arm of govt charged with the care of our veterans, some of it was familiar turf.  Also, I come from a dyed-in-the-wool Labour family, who all send our kids to Catholic schools, despite our official status as heathens.  Enuf said  ;).  Incidentally, we're mad keen gardeners and hikers too.  Those particular interests are not exactly unique up here in the Mtns  ;D.  Most of our weekend time is taken up with one or the other, or both for preference!  We've blooded our kids well in these two fine pursuits  ;).

Cheers to all.  I'm off now, to browse through a website I've found that has a completely alarming 700 odd reviews of BBM  :o. 

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on May 07, 2006, 01:43:19 AM
Sat June 3rd I think we said.  My place in the CBD.  (Wynyard Station/Bus stop 2000186) Idea was to get together late afternoon, then go and feed at a local place.  Only have about 6 seats, but I reckon the floor's not so bad :)

I'll check up on the date I agreed with Mme Shawshank.  Memory..what's that?

I have a Region 1 DVD, and I'm fairly sure my player will play it.  Will get this going in earnest as soon as get back from China, Monday 22nd.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: tfferg on May 07, 2006, 02:58:20 AM
The land that DVDs forgot!

Surely not? Are the release schedules really that far behind us in the UK?

Thanks for all the posts everybody. Remember if you spot other Aussies around the forum, please direct them here and get them to chat. I can think of 2 or 3 others that are members here, but may not have this place.

Cheers

Nick_F
Team Cullen

GR Bookshop in Darlinghurst is advertising them as available in July
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on May 07, 2006, 05:05:19 AM
have y'all seen the article that ran in an australian paper of magazine about the striking young "cowboy" who became a friend of heath's.  he seemed to have successfully negotiated the rocky journey to self acceptance, and was totally adoptable.  i think i saved a picture of him somewhere on my hard drive.  it is definitely worth seeking out the article.

jack 

Yeah, that article was great, Jack. Sounds good Wolf but I'm a long way away in Queensland and am saving frantically to go to LA/NY in Oct to meet up specifically with friends I have made on the forum...very exciting.  :)

Wow..get togetheres in Sydney..there  are not many other Aussies on this site and none of my friends are affected how I was. That is great to know that so many Aussies are Brokeback obsessed!
Cheers, Lola
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 07, 2006, 10:15:58 PM
MellorSJ, 

thanks a bunch for the info regarding your planned 'social' on June 3.  unfortunately, our saturdays are fully booked out until the end of the soccer season, which is tres ordinnaire since I don't even like the game  :'(.  I'll certainly be thinking of you on the day in question - with not a little envy! 

meantime, I've had the surprising, but delightful luck to be invited by a posse of Catholic School Mums (can you believe it!) for dinner and BBM tomorrow night at our local cinema.  I'm not sure how some of them will take it - particularly the younger, more earnest ones.  I know of at least two who'll be at the very least, quite moved, so will be interesting indeed.  Only one is actually aware of my Brokeaholism, but she and I plan to keep poker faces - don't want to invite questions midstream!

Lolita,

wowzers, you're actually going to meet friends from the forum?!!!  That's just the nicest thing I've heard all day  :) :) :).  Well, I could do with hearing the miners are out and Sophie is making a miraculous recovery, but you know what I mean!  I've mentioned here before that I'm a member of a womens' forum, and quite a few of us get together several times a year, from all over Australia.  Our most recent 'social' included three from NZ, and someone is coming from the UK for the next one.  We're all friends for life, purely as a result of that forum.  It's a beautiful thing  ;).

Brianr,

had mean't to say yesterday that I was very impressed by your mum's grand innings.  96 is quite an achievment!  and how marvellous that you and your sister are able to spend so much time with her. 

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 08, 2006, 01:05:17 AM
thanks a bunch for the info regarding your planned 'social' on June 3.  unfortunately, our saturdays are fully booked out until the end of the soccer season, which is tres ordinnaire since I don't even like the game  :'(.  I'll certainly be thinking of you on the day in question - with not a little envy! 

meantime, I've had the surprising, but delightful luck to be invited by a posse of Catholic School Mums (can you believe it!) for dinner and BBM tomorrow night at our local cinema.  I'm not sure how some of them will take it - particularly the younger, more earnest ones.  I know of at least two who'll be at the very least, quite moved, so will be interesting indeed.  Only one is actually aware of my Brokeaholism, but she and I plan to keep poker faces - don't want to invite questions midstream!
Thanks for the kind words about my mother who should be home from hospital about now. However I would love to hear about the reaction of the Catholic School Mums. As you would have seen I spent most of my career teaching in Catholic Schools. When I  came out, the other staff, even the religious were generally accepting, not so sure about how the Mums would have reacted though.  I personally am an Anglican and know I would never get a job in an Anglican school in Sydney. I recently walked out of the church in Leura after he criticised Brokeback in his sermon and now travel to St James, King Street which is gay accepting but rather a long drive on Sunday morning.
Am looking forward to seeing BBM at the Edge on either Thursday or Monday.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on May 08, 2006, 08:53:37 AM
hi darlings!!!!!! sweet brian directed me here...am a bit flippy floppy with webpages ...don't explore enough..
so joy of joy..our own little section of the forum!

yep..it's June 3 at Mr Steven's.  Not sure if one has to be on one's best behaviour or not. 

Have seen bbm twice in the past few days..with brian and a friend who'd not seen it before...she doesn't like being surrounded by people..so I booked her a seat on the aisle...enjoyed the night...lovely meeting brian..a sweet soul! I posted the following on the family, audience, friends thread..thought I'd share with you lot here...the sis in law who originally didn't like it has texted me today saying she wants to see it again..see, the magic works its wonders in its own time!  I promise to keep reading this thread :) An unexpected joy for me.  Would be fabulous if we can get together every so often.  How about we plan for next Oscar night, and have a brokeback mountain party ~ I'm at Penrith by the way...ok 12.52am and I is a tired little gal...sweet dreams dear Ozites...love youse all...oh, 'n hugs aplenty


last night...saw bbm for the 8th time...this time with a sister in law I'd seen it with weeks weeks back...and another sis in law seeing it for the first time...at a local family-run cinema...I'd been so excited...and imagining the one who hadn't seen it would respond in a certain way...would have bet money on it...however...

I've decided that even though it's going to be shown on a giant screen at Katoomba, my experience last night was so   that I'll wait for the dvd...ok here goes..in no set order..simply as they come to mind..

* a couple in front of me...we were sitting towards the back of the cinema...munching away on food...could feel that he sort of had no idea what the film was about...at all!...so first scene in tent...he looked to the left..to his partner...that, my friends was the first of about 40+ looks to the left...at the end I started placing imaginary bets as to when the next look to the left was....I was tempted to ask him to stop, however it became, for me, a sort of experiment...you can well imagine how I was feeling as Ennis was waiting for Jake to arrive...how many looks to the left would there be...many!  that man, in his quiet moments, will long long reflect on that story...

* it took half an hour before the choc top icecream munchers ceased munching...

* this audience laughed at such odd times...I wanted to get up and scream "Get out of your shoes and IMAGINE being ANY of these characters!"....laughs at the Alma awareness scene (I know that happens often, however I still can't believe it)...at the binocular scene...can't remember all of them, however I can remember thinking at various times: "HOW could anyone laugh at that?".

* credits roll....so much chatter ...laughing..noise...and here I was simply wanting to let Mr Nelson's and Mr Wainwright's songs drift over me....alas not a chance...and this audience had a mix of sexualities for sure..

ok...now we're the last in the cinema...I always wait for 'brokeback mountain" to appear at the end...powerful powerful..

I'm more than curious as to my sis in law's response...well my friends...you could have knocked me over with a feather....she didn't particularly like it....found the kissing repulsive...said if it had been two women she'd have walked out....and so on....I lost my breath for a while...must have looked super surprised...she asked "Do I shock you?"....No...you surprise me...and so the conversation went on...in the car...back home to glasses of Fra Angelico and cakes...here had I been..planning and imagining...yet here I was faced with a response I wouldn't have imagined in a million years....admittedly I've never had a conversation about sexuality with her...yet, have known her for years...over 20...and here was a response that floored me...so I began to ask her questions...once years back I would have left it at that..."Why the dames kissing more repulsive that guys?"...where did your attitude come from...the idea of sin ...illegality..etc...No was her reply...it's simply as I feel....I thought more to it than that....her husband, my brother, saw it by himself...and she told me he, too, didn't particularly like it...

so...much on which to reflect...the other sis in law said twice is enough for her....the sheep put her to sleep!...she has lived in the country...and any sheep stuff remind her of that time.."come and watch the sheep being shorn"....more and more I became aware that we bring our own stories to film..to books...to paintings...to landscapes...to life...and in this group of three women, I was the one whose heart took in bbm....and I thought last night about why...

indeed so did sis in law first viewer....both stayed the night...over breakfast we spoke again...she said.."I could see it again."...she told me she now understood why it came to me as it did....she knows the lies I've lived...and maybe it's confronting for some...so it's almost easier to resist ...yet bbm will will will not be resisted ...the story enters those who watch..in Life's time bbm will work its wonder...

big deep breath now!

even though this cinema experience was a tad weird...as each scene unfolded...and I awaited the dialogue..again and again I was reminded of how much I love this story..this film....tears now flowing...

'n I agree with that reviewer who was wondering if Heath could come back....such was the intensity of the acting...and Jake..and all...

how can people talk during those credits?

did they miss the last scene? did they not see the acres of emotion in Ennis's face? perhaps not....

you've noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo idea how much I treasure this forum...that I can share with you....

my husband can't understand why I'd want to see it more than once..."didn't you get it the first time?"

each to his/her own I guess....diversity....

hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on May 09, 2006, 05:11:45 AM
Hi guys,

Yeah, Wolf, i have been on this forum for a good few months now... started out in Scene by Scene, now I can only find the time to be in the Slash thread and Jake's eyelashes...you could never appear again in here!

Madameshawshank, i totally understand what its like with people not understanding the movie. I'm a bit confused how it's still showing at different places in Australia as it stopped screening on the Gold Coast about 6 weeks ago.

I saw it 14 times, yikes, this is from someone that has never watched a movie more then twice.
7 times with family and friends, the remainder with myself. I couldnt understand how no-one else was affected by me. I went to the earliest times of movie sessions as well so it would be quieter, sat WAY down the front.

Yep, so many of my friends actually asked when the sex scenes would be over...I hated to admit that I found them the most beautiful, erotic and powerful part of the movie!!!

Its lovely to be able to share our experiences,...and to see that this power hasnt even begun to die out.  :)

All the best, Lola  :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 09, 2006, 07:30:08 PM
Brian and Madameshawshank, just letting you both know I'm off to the 12.30 session today at Glenbrook. If either of you feel compelled to go, have fun trying to figure out which crazy Brokeaholic is me (I'm betting there'll be naught but us crazies this late in the run)  ;D. 

Now, onto the serious stuff!

Brian, great news about your mum.  Must be a huge relief for her to get out of hosp - not a fun place at the best of times.  And sorry to hear you had a 'falling out' with your church. what a shame they had to be such duffers!  And yes, King Street is a LONG way to go on a sunday morning.  I'm not 100% sure, but I have a feeling Father John at St Finbars (Glenbrook) would be very welcoming, in the true Christian sense of the word, if you could stand the bells and whistles of the Romanites  ;).  Not sure what the Anglicans are like down here in the lower Mtns.  Maybe worth checking them out?

Madameshawshank, I really enjoyed reading your 'viewing reports'!  It's always of great interest to me to know how people react, whether I know them or not.  Thanks for sharing.  I have my own report from last night, so I'll get into that now.  Don't want to be late for Ennis and Jack at 12.30!

Last night's 'dinner and movie' with the Catholic mums.  In the end only three of us went along - which turned out to be a blessing, since one of our number 'talked a blue streak', as Randall would say.  This particular woman was the one I felt sure would be very comfy with BBM, and perhaps love it as much as I do.  The other, a quiet, conservative, intelligent sort was the one I was concerned might come away unmoved, or at worst, offended.  Wrong on both counts.  "Lashawn", looked at her watch 10+ times, and fidgetted like a 4 yr old for the duration.  Dry eyes, no questions afterwards, and off she went.  The other, quieter woman put down her choctop after the first 3 minutes and left it to melt.  She didn't move, or utter a sound.  At the end she was crying, unable to speak, and wanted to 'debrief' at length.  Alas, as it was 11pm on a school night, and about 3 degrees, there was no chance of a carpark workshop!   She found the fortitude to utter a strangled "omigod", and "that was ... was ...... unbelievable".  I'm guessing she didn't sleep much last night, poor darling.  She's thoroughly infected!

There was quite a big crowd there for a tuesday, 8.30pm session of a film that finished it's run months ago.  About half full I'd say.  Slightly younger demographic (younger than the audiences I shared with at Hoyts), at a guess 35 - 60 ish.  Still definitely ADULTS tho.  Not a teenager in sight.  And much vocalisation at key scenes - which was a surprise to me.  I've mostly seen 'stunned into silence' type reactions, with occassional gentle laughs at Jack's clowning around scenes.  Last night they laughed at every place they were supposed to laugh, and let forth audible gasps in the places they were supposed to.  all appropriate, but surprisingly visceral and raw.  Enhanced the experience in a new way.

As for my own feelings about last night, well I managed to surprise myself by loving every single second of it.  I was STUNNED anew at how good this film is, and even more stunned that it still has the power to shake me to the core.  Last night it felt like the first or second time again.  I cried, and rejoiced quietly at the same time.  The DVD is great, but there's just nothing like seeing it on the big screen.  The sound was divine too.  Heard every little crackle of the fire, and every little change in the wind. The 'force of nature' element was more potent for me this viewing, I think primarily because the sound was so good.

Better get going I suppose.  Maybe I'll be the only one in the theatre today ..... that'd be amazing  :).

Cheers

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on May 09, 2006, 08:28:01 PM
Wolf..'fonly I'd read your post earlier...could have arranged a change of time for a friend ..I'm taking her to the hospital to visit her husband...could have gone earlier...'n by 12.30 I'd have been there..now 12.20 'n all I can do is now imagine! however methinks we will meet for sure...and share brokeback stories..

gotta go soon ...so..a general callout to this lot...anyone around Sydney town on Sat Jan 3...the wondrous Stephen has opened his home so we can see the mountain tale together...without chocotop crunching  ;)

if any of you can make it...do let me know via pm...brian I'll be in touch...

plan is ...film 'round 4pmish...then Malaysian restaurant nearby to Stephen's ...talk talk talk...then home whenever....

would be wonderful if anyone can make it!

am looking forward to more and more Oz chat...what a gift this forum is eh!

still reckon Alma had the choice to be brave when she saw that kiss!  yep she was confronted...yep life had changed dramatically in an instant...however look at the years of lying...from both...until the volcanic eruption...when she could no longer live the lie..the pretending....

never ever has a film stayed with me as this has....every so often a snippet from one of the songs will come into my head...or I can be driving and a snippet of dialogue...or a frame from the film...how delightfully curious I say...

hugs to all..

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 10, 2006, 05:00:18 AM
Not able to go to Glenbrook today as looking after Mum who is very very ill despite being back home.
However Brokeback is causing me to come out all over the place. I go to a literature discussion group at Blaxland every 2nd Tuesday and afterwards some of us  have coffee in Blaxland. We were discussing movies and the Glenbrook theatre (the owner was also having coffee there - he was encouraging us to see Kinky Boots). Two were going to see Brokeback today at 12.30 and I told them I had seen it 3 times and cried for 30 minutes after first viewing. One discussed how 2 malefriends had been anti the film and one (of the male friends) said it would encourage young guys to become gay at which I exploded and told them I was gay and like most had fought to be straight for many many years before finally accepting it. They were all supportive except one (who you probably know Wolf) who said it was a private matter and she did not go round telling people she was heterosexual. As she suffers terribly from osteoporosis (is bent over and needs a walking frame)) and has an adult disabled son needing constant care I had no wish to argue with her. I will be interested to hear the reactions of the two who saw it today but have to wait nearly 2 weeks.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on May 10, 2006, 03:35:02 PM
Bravo Brian! the great joy and challenge of saying "THIS IS ME!"....If I could ask that woman a question it would be this..."Why do you think the way you do?"....'n I say that to myself every so often..about all sorts of issues...how much of us are as we are because we have decided to think/believe etc a certain way

I'm talking about stuff like..."our family always votes Liberal/Labor"  "our family..or group or whatever...had to be neat and tidy all the time." "our family is a Rugby Union family." "we think so and so is such and such."

soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo often we are products of a story told.  The joy of that moment when we discover, at whatever age, we can fashion ourselves.  When we can choose to be the creator of self...

crumbs..'n all this at 7.33am ;) lordy lord!

my thoughts and hugs for your dear mum Brian...gentle hugs..
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: BBM-Intern on May 10, 2006, 04:59:39 PM
Hi everyone, it would appear that we have a final showing of BBM at the Schonell Theatre, starting today, Thursday 11-May-2006 through to Wednesday 17-May-2006.  Session times are 1800, except for Sunday 14-May which is 1600.  Sorry for repeating the earlier thread, but it would appear this cinema is closing down at the end of June due to voluntary student union funding shortages, so let's farewell this cinema in style.

C'mon, c'mon, what're you waitin' for cowboy/cowgirl?  A matin' call?  Another chance to see gorgeous jakey-poo on the big screen, bloody unreal!  Please PM me and we can round up a posse to go see it.  Initial thoughts are Saturday evening, get all dressed up, let them folks in BrizVegas know there's some brokeholics in their midst, "one in every crowd".

Lem
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 10, 2006, 06:18:02 PM
BBM-Intern, wow, great plan!  wish I could fly up just for the evening - I'd even wear my cowgirl boots ;D ;D ;D.  give us a full report after the event, won't you - we like details  :).

Mmeshawshank, darn, knew I should have posted earlier than I did yesterday  ;).  Tho as you say, we're bound to meet eventually!   I'm with you regards Alma, BTW.  I think she came off best of the bunch.  She moved on to a better life, with real love via the good offices of Monroe.  Have long felt Lureen came off far worse.  At the end of a long, loveless marriage, she's left with nothing but bitterness, and a dead husband.  Tell you what, there's many a marriage I'm aware of that are more loveless, or more dysfunctional, than either of the two as portrayed in BBM.  And that's sans the gay factor.  Always like to insert that caveat when folk take to pontificating about the immorality of it all.  Jeez Louise, an episode of Desparate Housewives is more corrupt, and let's just count how many BBM detractors watch that religiously - I personally know of two!

Brianr, what a really BIG thing you did on tuesday.  Hats (in this case, Stetsons) off to you.  I'm just sorry there was one stick in the mud.  The dear woman would have her reasons for reaction, no doubt, but it's always sad to see someone voice a position that may wound their audience.  Do you think you'll continue the momentum into other areas of your life?  I'll say it again, the life-altering power of this film will never cease to amaze.  Further, it's a real joy and a privelage to be sharing the life-changes with new friends from this forum.  Sending get well soon wishes to your Mum.  Hope she's feeling a bit more chipper as the days pass. 

Incidentally, I'm curious as to how I'd know the woman you referred to from your literary group.  I know few people in the area outside the school community, but I'm slowly changing that.  Meantime, wish I could help you out with your two friends' reactions to BBM yesterday, but alas I'd be struggling to identify them even with a fullsome description - it turned out to be quite a busy session!  Report below.

Theatre about half full again (same as previous evening), tho more the demographic I'm used to.  Mostly 60+, with a few octogenerians thrown in for good measure.  There were 4 or 5 under 50's.  Myself, a 30ish gay bloke, a couple of 20-something girls, and another woman around my age.   Again, total silence.  Choctops put down within first few minutes.  No further coffee slurping or bag rustling.  Something about the opening scene sends the clear message, PAY ATTENTION! and most sensible people acquiese, despite the melting choctop!   Full attention and absolute, almost religious reverance was demonstrated by all for the duration.  Quite something to behold from my position in the very middle of the very back row.

For my part, I have to say in all honesty, that it was overwhelming.  How that is possible after having seen it the previous evening, I don't know, but there it is.  I could FEEL the emotional upheaval in those around me - it was genuinly palpable.  There's probably some physiological process (silent group hysteria maybe?) behind that, but it was most definitely there.   Every key scene left me breathless and in atrial fibrillation, so can imagine a room full of people doing same might register on some sort of sensor!  At the end I found myself in debrief with the young gay fellow, and an elderly woman, both of whom were sitting closest to me in back row.  The dear boy could hardly speak, and the woman said "why on earth didn't this movie get the oscar?!".    I mentioned that it was my 10th viewing (admitting lunacy to strangers), and both said "I can see why".

I had to go directly from the cinema to the school run, which was challenging.  Tho far from being bereft, as I have been after some viewings, I was euphoric!.  Wanted to shout from the rooftops that every human being on the planet MUST see this film before they die.  I suppose this it how it feels to be 'born again'.  Really gives me a new appreciation for friends and family who've taken to pentacostalism with ... ahem .... gusto.  Yet another of the myriad blessings bestowed by BBM.

Must get going - an inordinately long list of to-dos for the day.  Will be a glorious day, with the almost tangible presence of Jack and Ennis. 

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 10, 2006, 07:53:59 PM
BBM starts at The Edge theatre in Katoomba tonight and tomorrow night is advertised as a Pink Mountains Fundraiser promoting "acceptance and tolerance"  Arrival time 7pm Movie time 8.30pm $20 per person includes Movie, nibbles and a glass of pink champagne  A best dressed competition Cowboys/Wild west style. However I think I will delay my visit until Monday evening.

Wolf, I thought you would know the lady as she was teacher librarian at St Finbar's and I assumed might still be a parishioner but I may have assumed too much. As I said her life is very hard and I admire her courage  very much.
 
I wrote about my other coming out this week on another thread. It was at my Monday Hiking group which I have been with last year as well so know many of the members much better.

To quote from that post on the Christians who love Brokeback Thread
"It was interesting as I came out to one of the women I am good friends with and I think may have been overheard by the one I am best friends with (when hiking you cannot always hear full conversations behind and in front). I am not sure how it began but Maureen  said something about being a Catholic and thought I was (She knows I teach in Catholic schools) She was therefore surprised when I said No I am an Anglican. She was even more surprised when I told her I had taught religion in Catholic schools. It turns out she is a lapsed Catholic because she was divorced and refused to pay a large amount of money to get an annulment before remarrying. Why Oh Why are the churches so hung up on sex? They do so much harm and turn people away by their attitudes. My brother-in-law is Catholic but believes he is going to hell because he married my sister in an Anglican church (great basis for a marriage) pre Vatican II.  Any way we discussed that I was now going to an Anglo-catholic church (I had to explain that) and how much I loathed the Sydney Diocese. I then told her I had intended entering the Anglican priesthood but as I am gay that would have been a disaster in Sydney. The subject then changed ."

I do not know much about the Anglican church at Glenbrook but the minister at Springwood has written homophobic letters to the Gazette
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 10, 2006, 09:03:31 PM
Brian, despite appearances, I'm not familiar with St Finbars in any other sense than as mum of a student or two, and then only for the past few months since we're still new to the area.  We're not church goers so haven't met parishoners outside the school side of things.  Father John I know via students' services and the like.

Glenbrook Anglican has a female minister.  I like to imagine that means a more liberal approach, but in reality it could mean absolutely nothing.  Incidentally, my in-laws are high church Anglicans, and only in very recent years has their church 'relaxed' a little.  In no small part a result of the retirement of the stodgy old chap who'd ministered there for eons.

Interested to read you're also in a bushwalking group.  I have dreams of doing same when I finally get the last bairn off to school in two years time.  Are they a good bunch of people?  Do you get alot out of it generally speaking?  And was there any response at all after your mention of the priesthood 'problem'?  Incidentally, are you continuing to pursue that passion?  Would be a dreadful shame if your calling couldn't be answered because of church bickering.  Frankly (and I'm uninformed here, so forgive the bombastics), I'm sort of apalled that sexuality is even mentioned in 'recruitment' processes.  It's none of their beeswax really, and has no bearing on your abilities to minister.  A bit like asking a Buddhist monk how he gets his jollies. 

Thanks for the info regarding The Edge, by the way.  I had hoped there'd be daytime sessions, but alas, not to be.  Am considering opening negotiations with his nibs for another evening leave pass (two in a week ... what's the world coming to!) and going with a neighbour next monday or tuesday night.  Can't really bear the thought that it'll be on a big screen and I won't be in the audience.  This might be the last time it'll be in a theatre, EVER.  Missing it would be cruel and unusual punishment!

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 10, 2006, 10:13:08 PM
Glenbrook Anglican has a female minister.  I like to imagine that means a more liberal approach, but in reality it could mean absolutely nothing. 
Sorry you must be mistaken. I went to the website and they mention 4 men as ministers and assistant ministers. In many churches in the Sydney Diocese women are not even allowed to read the lesson in a mixed congregation. They are not allowed to be in charge of a parish nor celebrate the Eucharist although at St James  King Street a woman always assists in the celebration and last week we had Dr Muriel Porter from Melbourne (but originally from Sydney) preach. She is a leader in the Movement for Women's ordination (no longer a movement outside of Sydney - now the push is for Women Bishops blocked at the moment by all powerful Sydney) She has just written a book "The New Puritans" criticising the Sydney Diocese with a chapter on gay acceptance. As we left I told her I enjoyed her book - it was breath of fresh air for a gayman in Sydney.
As you might noticed I am rather bitter about the Sydney Anglican Diocese. Yes I wanted to be a priest but it was made clear that I was not even wanted as a parishioner let alone as a priest. But that was over 30 years ago. Yet things in this Diocese are now worse. I intend moving to Dunedin NZ and hopefully to find a parish in which I can participate without fear of being discovered. I am a bit old now and prefer to be in the oldies groups discussing music and literature or going hiking. :) Yes our hiking group is for over 50's but I am sure you can find others in the Mountains. No we did not mention it again. The group split up and I went the longer way and my firend who has a pacemaker took the easier route.
 
Thanks for the info regarding The Edge, by the way.  I had hoped there'd be daytime sessions, but alas, not to be.  Am considering opening negotiations with his nibs for another evening leave pass (two in a week ... what's the world coming to!) and going with a neighbour next Monday or Tuesday night.  Can't really bear the thought that it'll be on a big screen and I won't be in the audience.  This might be the last time it'll be in a theatre, EVER.  Missing it would be cruel and unusual punishment!

:)
I will pm you with my phone number which you can ring if you decide to go on Monday night 6.15
Brian
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on May 11, 2006, 03:52:55 AM
After a month of lurking I've finally registered - had to say a big thanks to those people who've posted that BBM is showing in the Blue Mountains! So depressing when it finished its Sydney run, although 3 months is very long for this part of the world. Sadly I had to miss the Glenbrook sessions due to prior commitments and a lousy train timetable but I'm very hopeful I can make it to one of the Edge sessions. The only thing better than seeing the reunion scene on a big screen is seeing it on a BIG screen! I confidently expect the screen to shake when Ennis slams Jack against the wall. Monday is looking likely at this stage.

For those who live in the inner parts of Sydney, BBM is also showing at Govinda's in Darlinghurst. And now to order that DVD! Wait until July indeed. Phooey!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: peteinportland on May 11, 2006, 04:40:01 AM
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Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on May 11, 2006, 06:49:38 AM
OK, I am really confused here on a couple a issues...

First, Brianjr and Wolf, you know each other? Cause that would explain a lot... ;D

Second...how come you are still getting BBM to see at the cinemas? It finished about 6 weeks ago in QLD, although a beautiful person gave me an Oscars screening dvd 4 weeks ago, the actual dvd does not come out in OZ till Aug 26...(Did I mention I am obsessed? LOL)

Hey Sparky, I've seen your around..*waves*
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Tasmaniac on May 11, 2006, 08:43:47 AM
Hey, there's an Aussie thread.  Stone the Crows.  BBM mountain left the cinema here (Townsville) about 2 weeks ago.  But for the last 3 weeks or so of showing it was only on once or twice a day at a small independent(ish) cinema.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 11, 2006, 02:16:47 PM
Welcome to the Aussie thread Tasmaniac. Your name confused me as you apparently live in North Queensland ;D
No Lolita. I have never met Wolf although we both live in the Blue Mountains
The theatres where BBM are still showing are independents in the Blue Mountains. the Glenbrook Cinema is a small screen in the community hall but a great little cinema. Brokeback finished there last night  :(
The Edge cinema in Katoomba is also independent and is a giant screen for showing a tourist film of the Blue Mountains during the day (great if the mountain mists prevent real views) In the evening they show normal movies for us locals but with only one screen, they tend to lag the city a bit although Da Vinci is starting at the same time. Brokeback started last night and runs for one wonderful week.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on May 11, 2006, 04:15:17 PM
8.10am...am as busy as all getout today..and for the next couple of days..then to Queensland for 2 weeks...

darlings all...this to say...my god this thread has such an Australian feel to it....big big smile on ma dial...

crumbs we could all meet in the Alice one day...imagine that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wolf...as for Lureen...that phone call...she's still paintin' those nails...however she's in that hell spot where she don't care if she gets a smudge on her skin...however........................................................................... she still has the opportunity to let go of the story...and create herself herself... :)always the moment of opportunity..'tis life

my hope is to meet as many of you darlins as I possibly can..anyone from Adelaide? I'll be there in midJune for a week with my husband, and father (he all of 90 'n fabulous)
Title: Re: G'day!
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Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 14, 2006, 08:48:34 PM
Just a quickie to say "have fun" to Photondancer and Brianr at the 6.15 session tonight.  Will be there with you in spirit!

I think Brian answered the question on why BBM is still showing.  Independent cinemas is the answer - long may they reign  ;D.  Someone also asked if Brian and I know eachother - only via this thread so far!  We both live in Blue Mtns, so are in a a sense, neighbours too. 

Have a good trip, Mmeshawshank.  Safe travels.

Sparky, I'd read your posts early on regarding your Aussie man and the difficulties you two face.  Really pleased to find you've visited our thread, and hope you can drop in often.  Incidentally, I know Wee Jasper (what a great place name that is!), it's a lovely place.  Very much sheep country, as you say.  Ennis and Jack would be right at home  ;D. 

As per above, I'm sadly not going to be able to make it to the 6.15pm session at The Edge tonight (can't crunch the childcare numbers), but have managed to wrangle a leave pass for tomorrow night's 8.45pm session.  Very bloody late for someone who generally konks out around 9pm, but there it is.  Am happy just to be going at all - when so many people have no hope of seeing it on the big screen again.  Will be going with a neighbour who, while only having seen it twice so far, is deeply in BBM's thrall.  Incidentally, when her and my hubby got wind of our plans for a 'belated mothers' day treat', they both almost in unison, said "so long as it's not Brokeback Mountain AGAIN".  Said they'd have to consider psychiatric intervention if so.  We both basically cracked up, since that's precisely what we were planning!  Hubbies had the good sense to avoid further interrogation and leave well enuf alone, but not before we grilled them on just WHY it was such a dire prospect.  We pointed out that respectively, she and I had each seen other films repeatedly, some up to 20 or 30 times, with no opposition from the spouses.  They both failed, utterly, to come up with a single reason as to why it was problematic.  We were in hysterics like a couple of kids by the end of this silly male posturing.  Was most entertaining!

Aside from this nonsense, neighbour's hubby admitted having seen it on pay-per-view in his hotel room on recent business trip.  I pointed out to him that he'd volunteered himself and he responded with "I wanted to know what all the fuss was about".  He went on to question us at some length about many of the themes and elements of the film, and had a surprisingly good recall of the details.  My own hubby manifested his 'haunting' by referring to it, vaguely and in passing, for about 2 weeks after seeing it.   You can see why we found their horror at the thought of us seeing it, AGAIN, so funny!

Cheers all.  Enjoy the lovely rain we're getting!

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on May 14, 2006, 09:17:36 PM
It's a shame you can't make it tonight Wolf, it would've been fun to catch up! The 8:45 session was not very feasible for me with a 2 hour train trip back to Sydney after. 6:15 was rather a naughty choice on my part because it means leaving work before 3pm and missing a work meeting - but BBM trumps a boring meeting any day and besides, my manager called in sick today! 'tis Fate whispering in my ear "this ain't no little thing you got going here".

I have every intention of catching at least one of the Govinda's sessions also, especially since I'll have to miss the 3rd June gathering. I have a 7:30pm flight to Darwin that day :-(

I'm still learning this newfangled forum thing, for weeks I was baffled by posters' references to this thread and that, but on the weekend I finally tracked down the "The camera loves Jake" thread and am now rather like a kid in a lolly shop. He must have the most beautiful mouth in Christendom! I had the utterly gorgeous blue-tinged studio shot of him as the wallpaper on my computer at work last week and it was freaking out my all-male workplace! Very entertaining. I took pity this week and changed it to a much younger shot of him, which doesn't seem to threaten them as much. Maybe that's contributing (just a little) to your husbands' collective angst?

Yay for the rain! Wish I'd got off my backside and planted those bulbs now.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 14, 2006, 09:32:57 PM
The rain is great. Also meant I cancelled my hiking for today which means I will not fall asleep during BBM tonight (as if I would :))
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: BBM-Intern on May 14, 2006, 11:04:18 PM
Hi all you living in the lucky country,

Thought I'd give you a short report on seeing BBM in Brisbane at The Schonell - this is for you, Wolf!  The session at 1600 yesterday (Sunday 14 May) was reasonably attended - I estimated around 35-40 in the theatre, which by Brisbane standards is good.   I've attended sessions in other big-chain cinemas and you could practically count the viewers on one hand!  Mixed crowd, mostly females in groups.  Audience was very respectful, no noisy crunching, appropriate giggles and moans, the latter when Alma catches our two boys snogging away in the gangway.  At the end there were a few quiet sobs; for me, I felt as if I'd gone 15 rounds with Kostya Tzuyu, sucker punch after sucker punch, especially after the last confrontation, the hollowness in Jack's eyes, such a sad portend of things to come.  It was hard to breathe and I was almost hyperventilating, had to sit there for quite a while to compose myself and drive home.  I sensed the audience also rode the roller-coaster ride, starts out easy but gathers speed with frightening intensity, I think some of them probably walked away a bit shell-shocked.

A pity there was no-one to join me in cowboy boots or anything, but I didn't care - turned up in my Wrangler shirt (blue denim, like Jack's), jeans and black Resistol hat.  The guy at the ticket counter had a wry smile, when I said, "One for Brokeback Mountain, please" - as if I'd come to watch something else!!  I went to church after that and when I apologised for getting there at the last minute having been at the movies, the pastor said, "Oh no, not THAT MOVIE again!  Everytime I see you, you're dressed for Brokeback..."  Oh, what else can a brokeaholic do??!!

As an aside (I'm sure it was discussed elsewhere), but did you notice just how vulnerable Jack looks when looking at Ennis in the scene, "I gotta say this to you just one time, Jack fuckin' Twist..." - he looks so pleading and open, I just want to drag Ennis away and shush him!  But then again, isn't that one of the themes of the movie, loving someone unconditionally, despite their imperfections - Jack is always there to comfort Ennis despite his own wounding and pain.  Reminds me of a saying I heard of a long time ago, "Sometimes we actually hate the ones we love, because they are the only ones who can hurt us", but then, loving takes courage, doesn't it?

Print of the movie was quite dusty, so there were lots of extra "bits" at the end of each reel, but that worried me none.  Late in the season to get a treat seeing it on the big screen, hey, it's like a gift from above.  A pity the Schonell Theatre is said to close down 30 June, due to voluntary student union funding shortages.  Like it was said earlier, the only reason we're getting a late run is because of independent cinemas, so we need them!

OK, gotta run, catch all youse later.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 15, 2006, 05:56:09 AM
Have just arrived home from seeing Brokeback at the Edge in Katoomba and it really lived up to my anticipations.  The huge screen was great for scenery and also studying the expressions on the faces of Jack and Ennis. This viewing came some way toward affecting me in the same way as the first time. I thought I might have become a little immune after  seeing it at Glenbrook.  We think there was about 100 there - a good crowd for Monday night . I did not see anyone waiting to go into Mission Impossible after we came out.  This was the biggest crowd I  have experienced. Some of the laughter gets to me. I do not see anything funny  about them being spotted thru the binoculars and certainly not when Alma sees them. My heart bleeds for Alma "this aint her fault"
Full marks to Photondancer who would only have just started her 2 hour journey back to Sydney as I type. It was a pleasure to meet another obsessed person :)
I feel rather sad that I might not see it on the big screen again. Almost tempted to return to one of the 8.45pm sessions tomorrow or Wednesday.
My brother-in-law gave me a copy but it is on some strange format (DVX) which will not play on either my DVD or computer.  It was nice of him as my sister told me years ago that he did not approve. He asked her after seeing me hug my then boyfriend at the airport on the way to Europe in 1980.  However he chuckled and said how appropriate  when it turned the computer screen pink.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on May 15, 2006, 09:24:09 PM
Oh my lord, that was so worth the journey! It was a romantically misty night, putting me in just the right mood. The Edge is not a full IMAX screen and I suspect the film might have been cropped slightly, but to be so close to the characters and have their faces in such close-up was fantastic. I was able to watch every subtle change in expression and noticed for the first time that Ennis has tears in his eyes when the divorce is announced. He looks even more unhappy than he did at the wedding. And my heart was broken afresh watching Jack's face each time Ennis rejects him. The mixture of incredulity and hurt that sweeps across his face in the carpark after coming down from the mountain as he realises that Ennis is sticking to his guns about this being 'a one-shot deal', won't agree to see him again, won't even shake hands with him. And that aching moment where he visits Ennis after the divorce and is turned down flat; this is the hardest scene for me to watch and it was even harder this time because I could really see his joy as he talks to Ennis, how completely he takes it for granted that his dreams are about to come true. The caressing tone in his voice, the affection spilling out from the way he walks, looks at and embraces Ennis, just before Ennis starts making his inadequate, wretched excuses, nearly did me in.

There were easily 100 people there, maybe more, a much higher turnout than I expected. All ages; quite a lot of twentysomethings, who I assumed were filling in time before MI:3 but no, as Brian said nobody was interested in seeing that. I was delighted by this indication of Blue Mountains' good taste in film. :-) Quite a lot of laughter throughout the film which I must say I preferred to the reverential silence at some of the Sydney screenings. There is a lot of humor in the film and I hated being the only one snickering as Ennis teases Jack, or Alma drily asks Ennis if he's forgotten something. I was a little surprised that people laughed when Aguirre spots our boys. He's a big, mean bastard, more than capable of barging down and hurting them, and that moment always evoked gasps and hisses of fear in Sydney. I looked around during the credits: a lot of people sitting silently, obviously affected, others huddled together discussing it animatedly (repeat viewers, perhaps).

[A quick edit to add that I've listened to the soundtrack every day for the last 3 weeks and had a grand time playing 'spot the soundtrack' during the film, but it's astonishing how much music is _not_ on the CD, some of it being my favorite bits. I do hope they release a 2nd CD collecting it!]

Afterwards I walked in the mist for half an hour musing on love, on the chains we bind ourselves in and how we hurt the ones we love. Really wish I could catch one more Edge session now. Those going tonight, enjoy!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 16, 2006, 06:48:27 PM
Morning all  :)

BBM Intern, had a lovely mental image of you turning up to the cinema in your Jack Wear  ;).  And a big thank you for your Viewing Report!  Know what you mean about the hyperventilating - had the same problem myself last nite.  They aught to issue paper bags at the box office - and tissues! 

What you say about sometimes hating the one you love is so true.  the fight the boys had on their final day on the mountain spoke to this effect, beautifully and painfully.  You can guess at the emotions that might come into play in such a situation.  Impossible love  :'(. 

Had a good chuckle at your Pastor's comment, BTW!

Photondancer, lucky you, getting to meet Brian, seeing Brokeback, and all in a misty Katoomba evening!  Great to read it was well worth the 2 hr train ride.  I'm with you on getting such a great close up of the boys' different expressions of pain and longing.  I REALLY felt Jack's agony when they parted after coming off the mountain.  There's a quick shot of him right after Ennis says "guess I'll see you around", and it just about breaks my heart.  Absolutely searing.

Lovely to hear there was such a good turnout too.  it seems to make a big difference to the experience.  I now firmly believe that largish, appreciative audience does indeed manifest some sort of group angst that is tangible and affecting. 

re: husbands.  the interesting thing about their odd disapproval is that it has nothing to do with misplaced jealousies.  it's purely a manifestation of their straight bloke discomfort with all things gay.  both are being very Ennis-like about it all  ;D ;D.

I'm with you on wanting to go to another Edge session - I think they should run it permanently, once a week.  There seems to be enough of the 'right' sort of people in the mountains to support such a loony venture  ;D. 

Brian, I thought of you at 6.30 monday night, and again at 7pm, and again at 8pm, etc.  Was very much wishing to be there!  What a funny fellow your brother-in-law is.  Pink screen indeed!  Sounds as tho you have a US dvd, which won't play on regular Australian players.  You may have to buy an all-regions player to watch it.  I managed to find one for only $130, and it's a decent brand.  Incidentally, I thought I'd watch the DVD frequently, and bits of it over and over etc, but neither has happened.  I feel very strongly about only watching it with others, and only on their request.  My father is coming to stay in a few weeks, and he's expressed interest in seeing it, so I'll watch it with him.  As uncomfortable as that may be  :o.

Well, I did end up going to The Edge last night (first time I'd been there) with my neighbour.  We were STUNNED when we walked in. That screen is so bloody huge it's actually quite disorienting!  Felt that same giddy Imax sensation where you don't know where to look  ;D.

We sat in the middle of the back row (my favoured possie, obviously!) and at 5 mins prior to commencement, there was just us and three pairs of older women.  One of these couples we actually knew, which was a surprise.  We talked about how few people were there, when suddenly there was a mad rush of people and in a couple of minutes the place was teeming.  All demographics, but as per usual, the majority definitely in the grey brigade.  A couple of young boys on their own (made me wonder if they were in the throes of finding out who they were.  can't imagine a straight 20 yr old boy would go alone, if at all), and a smattering of young Japanese backpacker types.

That big screen definitely affected the experience.  It was almost too hard to watch in places, and I found myself averting my eyes every now and then.  As seems to be par for the course, the crowd was silent from the outset, a few quiet chuckles at Jack's clowning, and gasps at Aguirre and his binoculars, and Alma's discovery.  We both came away as profoundly rattled as always, if not more so.  My friend was actually sobbing quietly at the end, which was hard to see.  I really felt for her, but had my own reactions to deal with so wasn't much help.  The gay couple we knew were in front of us, and it was their first viewing.  afterwards they sat for the entirety of the credits with us, quietly crying.  One offered words to the effect "I can't think of anything sensible to say, I'm dumbstruck", and "those poor boys, they didn't have a hope did they".   They're both women of roughly Ennis and Jack's age (early 60's) so can imagine there must have been some resonance.

Like Brian and photondancer, we also came outside and were immediately engulfed in a beautiful mountain mist, and 'rushing cold'.  It was a special, and wonderfullly appropriate moment.  Would love to have taken a walk in that mist, as per photondancer, but it was 11pm and we had a long drive ahead of us, so traded the mist in for the interior of my heated car and the Brokeback soundtrack.  Needless to say, we 'workshopped' it all the way home.  Cried some more, laughed, marvelled, cried again, and finally came back to the beginning of the circle.  That is, WHY?.  why does a FILM have the power to move some of us to places we've never been before.  What is the magic ingredient?

On that note, I'm off to do a little more internet research on the above question.  I know there's no answer, but the search for one seems to fill some need, so I'm happy to ride it for as long as I can  ;).

W
Title: Region 1 DVD
Post by: photondancer on May 16, 2006, 11:15:26 PM
Just a quick one: is the DVD worth buying? I was all set to order it from Amazon, but some of the comments in the DVD technical forum have discouraged me somewhat. Is there a way to find out what features the Region 4 version will have? I would do a web search but I'm at work so even logging into this forum is naughty enough!
Title: Re: Region 1 DVD
Post by: jack on May 17, 2006, 01:20:14 PM
Just a quick one: is the DVD worth buying? I was all set to order it from Amazon, but some of the comments in the DVD technical forum have discouraged me somewhat. Is there a way to find out what features the Region 4 version will have? I would do a web search but I'm at work so even logging into this forum is naughty enough!
if you want to have the movie at your disposal, it is probably worth it.  you could probably check it out of a local library first to see if you want it.  there is no telling how long before a more customized version will come out.  the current extras are essentially a rehash of things we have seen on tv or the internet.  if you have a whopping kick ass tv to view it on, i woud say go for it.  there are certainly other rationales.  the transfer itself is consider high quality, only the full screen version has some critical pans, the wide is regarded well.

jack
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 17, 2006, 04:04:08 PM
The huge screen was great for scenery and also studying the expressions on the faces of Jack and Ennis. This viewing came some way toward affecting me in the same way as the first time. I thought I might have become a little immune after  seeing it at Glenbrook. 
Further on this, I am a bit bemused with myself. The first time I saw the film back in early February I sobbed for half an hour (very embarrassing fora male) in the food court at Burwood over lunch. I often shed a few tears over a movie but can straighten myself up before the credits end. For the next  viewings I was not not nearly so emotional just  moist eyes at various scenes.
 However I have been reading the screenplay a little bit at a time and on Tuesday I finally completed it and reading the final scene with Ennis and the shirts in the trailer had me sobbing my heart out (thankfully in the privacy of my home). Perhaps it had built up from the night before at the Edge where the situation kept me under control. It led me to send a rather depressing note to the "How Brokeback affected me' thread.  It is so sad to see Ennis in that situation at 40 and although I am quite happy with life at 62 , I can forsee myself like that in my 80's as my only relations are are my sister now 72 and my mother slowly and painfully dying at 96. While I have many friends, I have not had a relationship for 25 years and see no prospect of that.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on May 17, 2006, 06:20:32 PM
Hi from Melbourne, Victoria to my fellow Australian BBM fans,

I am the  odd one in my friends who has fallen in love with Jack and Ennis , so it really is comforting to know there are people like me in Australia..

I would love to go to the big screen viewings  but I am not in the position to go to Sydney at present time ( work, family ... )

Big Hugs to you all



Title: Re: Region 1 DVD
Post by: campfire on May 17, 2006, 06:23:03 PM
Just a quick one: is the DVD worth buying? I was all set to order it from Amazon, but some of the comments in the DVD technical forum have discouraged me somewhat. Is there a way to find out what features the Region 4 version will have? I would do a web search but I'm at work so even logging into this forum is naughty enough!

Hi Photodancer,

I have ordered my dvd from Amazon ( got the full screen edition ) and am very happy with it.. Been able to watch on dvd/tv screen or PC with no problems..

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 17, 2006, 07:47:44 PM
Brian, sending warm hugs to you m'dear.  Wish there was more I could do.  Wish I could magically conjur up a mature version of Jack or Ennis for you. 

25 years is along time to be without a life partner, but perhaps the self-reliance you've gained in that time will stand you in good stead when that special someone comes into your life.  I'm praying that he'll be there soon, for the record.  Maybe Brokeback, and/or this forum will be the catalyst! 

In the meantime, I'm thinking of you  :).  Actually was thinking of you this morning.  At my son's school assembly, a short 'sermon' was given on the symbolism of mountains.  The children were encouraged to 'be like a mountain, quiet and still'.  instantly made me think about Brokeback, particularly the 'quiet and still' flavour of the film.  Reference was made to the special relationship mountains have with God, and in child-friendly terms, we were reminded how lucky we were to live surrounded by mountains, and therefore by the most powerful physical manifestation of God.  There was even a mention of something like "a force of nature".  I realise I may be certifiable in saying this, but Chaos sometimes appears very unChaotic.   

photondancer, definitely buy the DVD if you have the right machine to play it on.  The quality is very good, and it's such a comfort to know it's there if you 'need' it.  Jack's quite right about that!  I don't have the huge kickass tv, but have been quite satisfied with watching it on a 60cm screen at close range. 

campfire, welcome!  you do realise that here, we work in reverse.  those that don't 'fall in love' with Brokeback are odd, not us.  we're healthy, fully-functioning-on-all-cylinders, sensitive, brilliant, passionate, highly intelligent individuals  ;) ;).  seriously, please feel free to discourse often on your Brokeback journey, or anything else you feel like chatting about!  As for Sydney screenings, I think the final one was last night - and wasn't actually in Sydney, but 2 hrs west in Katoomba (Blue Mtns).  Upshot, it's no longer on here  :'( .  BTW, I have a brother in Melb.  I must send him my DVD and convert him asap!

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on May 18, 2006, 05:39:56 AM
Hi from Melbourne, Victoria to my fellow Australian BBM fans,

I am the  odd one in my friends who has fallen in love with Jack and Ennis , so it really is comforting to know there are people like me in Australia..

I would love to go to the big screen viewings  but I am not in the position to go to Sydney at present time ( work, family ... )

Big Hugs to you all





Welcome Campfire...I am the same as you..the total odd one out....

Enjoy the forum :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on May 18, 2006, 06:13:01 AM
Thanks Wolf and Lolita for 'welcome' wishes.. :)

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on May 19, 2006, 03:59:21 AM
Hey Jack, nice of you to mosey on over to our little part of the world! thanks everybody for the DVD advice.

Hi campfire, as Wolf said you're the normal one! see later in my comment for people who aren't normal...Anyway, I only know of 3 friends who've seen it. One, who saw it with me, cried as much as I did but I don't think she went to see it again. She seems very accepting of the fact that I've seen it again (and again) so maybe if I'd pushed, she'd have come along. Another said she loved it but was inclined to view Jack negatively; I hope she sees it again and changes her mind. And a third, to my pain, felt it was slow. She's not incapable of appreciating a good film: we saw and wept over "Water" together. Maybe she just has not had the emotional experiences that would've made BBM resonate for her as it did for us. I sometimes feel that if ever there was a film for the broken-hearted, Brokeback is it.

I am slightly embarrassed to admit I currently watch DVDs on my laptop, a 12-inch iBook. The screen quality is quite good, it's just small. (Ok, tiny). I don't watch tv at all so haven't been able to justify the cost of a wide-screen tv set to myself (especially as I'll be out of a job soon) but I quite recognise that a 12-inch screen is ludicrously unworthy of BBM and I should be ashamed of myself for even considering subjecting it to such degradation. :-) I'll probably end up ordering the region 1 DVD as several friends think they tend to be better quality pressings than region 4, although another friend likes to buy region 2 (UK) as he reckons they have better extras - or they do on the kind of stuff he likes to order, anyway.

Anybody had a look at the IMDb messageboard for BBM? I've been slowly ploughing my way through it for several weeks and it's kind of interesting. The first 100 pages are similar to these forums: people who've come out feeling like they were hit by a train and can barely express how deeply moved and haunted by the fillm they are. But the mood starts to change and from about page 130 onwards (there's nearly 180 pages and I'm up to 154 right now) it's mostly negative. And the most common complaint, by far, is that there's no buildup in the boy's relationship and then they're suddenly having sex and it's just not believable. Ye gods! I wonder if  these are the same people who can't understand why their spouse/girlfriend/boyfriend has 'suddenly' up and left them either. I find it hard to believe there are people so incapable of perceiving, let alone interpreting, the mating dance that makes the mountain scenes so luminous. I really feel there must be something slightly wrong with them.

Anyway, it's time to change the Jake picture on my wallpaper. Since my colleagues have had it easy this week with a shot of him looking about 16, I will raise the temperature again with a dazzling closeup of those sapphire eyes (no. 6 on the Camera Loves Jake thread for the interested). Have a good weekend all!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on May 19, 2006, 04:57:35 AM
hi there all you darlings...'n Brian ..a special hug for you...

here I am in the wilds of Queensland...viisting.....feel as though I'm surronded by so many who wouldn't give the mountain the time of day....that's why I love this forum sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo and a few zillion more Os...much...only a short computer time..

'nuff to say ..love youse all...

however..come to think of it...I don't know many people personally who've been struck by bbm...what a group we are..what a group..

hugs :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 19, 2006, 04:55:56 PM
Just giving us a bump to the top  ;)

More hugs to Brian.  Looks like we might get some rain today, my mountains friend!

Photondancer, I loved your post.  Very well said  :).

Cheers to Mmeshawshank in sunny QLD. 

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 19, 2006, 05:55:38 PM
photondancer, managed to squeeze a few extra minutes of computer time out of my morning, so back to talk more about your post.

mating dance  :).  what a gorgeous way of describing the time on the mountain.  and it did indeed, give this part of the film it's luminosity! like you, I'm dumbfounded by this frequent complaint.  I don't quite know what these folk are expecting from two taciturn, uneducated 19 yr old country boys.  grand romantic gestures?  dancing in the moonlight?  discovering a shared passion for begonias? long, deep and meaningful philosophical discussions?  Makes you wonder if they've actually done anything other than watch the pretty lights.

there aught to be a warning on the DVD covers.  THE SURGEON GENERAL WARNS WATCHING THIS FILM WITH HALF A BRAIN MAY CAUSE PAIN TO YOUR BROKEAHOLIC FRIENDS.

meanwhile if you're interested in this line of thought, I've recently found some good threads on the romance 'buildup' over on the bettermost forums.  even posted a time or two  ;D. 

as you were

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 19, 2006, 07:07:01 PM
Thanks for the hugs ;D
I was also surprised when the leader of our musical memories group who is really into films told me she thought the beginning was slow. The last time I watched it was so obvious that there was a gradual buildup to the FNIT.  Little caring things and sharing of humour and experiences.  I guess this would not be so obvious at the first viewing.  By the way I think said leader knows my orientation now. I told her last Tuesday I had seen BBM 4 times and she said "Gilly is a hunk isn't he?'  I agreed with a smile.  There is one other guy at this group. 70 years  old. He kissed all the ladies first time (My first time, most were returning after long holidays in February) The leader said "Don't worry Brian he won't kiss you". He said "No I am not like that"  and made a limp wrist. I have given him the cold shoulder ever since while remaining icily polite but he doesn't get it.
We went to see "End of the Rainbow " as a group. One of the characters is the piano player - openly gay. At the end he narrates how at Judy Garland's funeral there were all these notable names plus "a  little group of piano players at the back" I was near to tears but this guy guffawed loudly.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: BBM-Intern on May 20, 2006, 08:52:44 AM
Hey everyone,

Just wanted to let you know, this afternoon I drove over to the Birch Carroll and Coyle cinema at Morayfield, which is some way outside of Brisbane.  Reason being they just finished their run of BBM and had a couple of posters for sale - that was enough incentive for me to make the trek to collect them posters.  Oh, the poor posters were quite mangled, having being recycled from previous showings, but still...

But what really floored me was the counter staff's comment that it was shown well after the season finished as there were over 150 people asking why BBM hadn't been shown there (!!).  These repeated requests meant that there was still popular demand, so there were many more who would also be interested in seeing the film.  The cinema then asked the distributor to let them have a two-week run, very, very late in the season.

Wow, I didn't realise there were folks out there interested in the film.  What I'm about to say will probably get me flogged, but I always imagined that somewhere like Caboolture, Morayfield, Burpengary would not be typically somewhere that BBM would be welcomed.  Driving through there, it seemed very typically suburban family oriented, almost expected to see "dad & mum, 2.5 kids, 4WD, dog and white picket fence" - that sort of thing.

But as they say, "When you wake up, the world may have changed..." perhaps this film transcends those boundaries, and I just wanted to say "ON YA MATE", let the film's message break down barriers, increase understanding and help eradicate ignorance and homophobia.  I had to almost pick up my jaw from the floor when the counter staff told me what a successful run they had.

Hugs to all.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Phantom on May 20, 2006, 01:53:27 PM
That was a great little story...

I live in an area full of "christian coalition" types... it's not pretty... I usually don't even bother answering the door.

I fear that HOLY WATER will be thrown at me!  ::)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on May 20, 2006, 05:27:11 PM
Hello  to you All from a sunny Melbourne morning,

Thanks for sharing the story BBM-intern. It really is great to  know BBM has been received really well in  some parts of Australia..

Still did not have a chance to watch the dvd with few other friends. Just planned it so well to watch it at my place  and kids got sick :( .
But I will get there . I am really curious about their reactions. I know what to expect actually, none of them will be affected like me, but who knows maybe there might be surprises.

Have you guys had a chance to send out your choices  for the book title? I think today was the last day ( I hope ) , because I have few suggestions. That book project has been really exciting , it will be one of the best outcomes of that forum as the book will be able to reach out to  more people who may not have the means to access the forum and movie.
And book is always a great company to take anywhere , anytime.

Have a great, easy going week .

Big Hugs to you All.


 

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on May 21, 2006, 03:36:30 AM
there aught to be a warning on the DVD covers.  THE SURGEON GENERAL WARNS WATCHING THIS FILM WITH HALF A BRAIN MAY CAUSE PAIN TO YOUR BROKEAHOLIC FRIENDS.

I love it! thanks for your kind words Wolf, altho I have to admit I stole the phrase 'mating dance' from another poster over on the main discussion. Another poster referred to it as a courtship, but that implies one of them is courting the other and it doesn't look that way to me. Just a slow, sweet spiralling in towards each other. I don't know about begonias (maybe it will turn out to be a deleted scene extra on the DVD, we can but hope), but I suspect a lot of the complainers sat there expecting the grand romantic speech they've heard in every other 'love story' film, and to hell with the fact that neither Jack nor Ennis was the type to do so.

I hadn't heard of  the bettermost forums but will check them out this week - and there goes another slab of my free time. :-) 

Brian, sorry to hear you ran into such a jerk. I had to listen to a bunch of 11-12 year old boys calling each other 'gay' on the bus this afternoon. *sigh* If it weren't for encouraging stories such as BBM-Intern's I would feel we were still back in the 60s or 70s.

campfire - sunny Melbourne? pshaw! :-p

On distantly related topics: Borders in Sydney are selling Ang Lee's "Sense and Sensibility" DVD for only $14.95, and Jake's "The Good Girl" is on tonight on channel 7. I missed it at the cinema so I'm looking forward to feeding my Jake obsession, even if it means having to put up with the presence of Jennifer Aniston. :-/


Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on May 21, 2006, 05:00:26 AM
campfire - sunny Melbourne? pshaw! :-p

On distantly related topics: Borders in Sydney are selling Ang Lee's "Sense and Sensibility" DVD for only $14.95, and Jake's "The Good Girl" is on tonight on channel 7. I missed it at the cinema so I'm looking forward to feeding my Jake obsession, even if it means having to put up with the presence of Jennifer Aniston. :-/


Hey, miracles do happen.. yes it was indeed sunny in Mlebourne today. At least in the morning, it was .. ;-)

Thanks for the Channel 7 tip Photondancer.. I really have not had a great Sunday today, so it will be a nice ending by watching my beloved Jake even though his love interest is to be Jennifer instead of Heath  : ( .. I dont want to see Jake with somebody else.



Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on May 21, 2006, 05:34:50 AM
After all too long away, on my back to Sydney.  Whoo hoo!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 21, 2006, 06:58:36 PM
Monday morning greetings to all

MellorSJ, nice to have you back  :),

Campfired, you must tell us all about the Big Event, when it finally happens.  Don't kids always seem to get sick at once  :-\.   ;D at yr J Aniston comment.  My sediments exactly - was a great Jake Appreciation film apart from her presence.

BBMIntern, when the film showed at a big cineplex near here, there were far more punters at each screening than I expected, given it's a fairly redneck area.  wonders never cease!  sorry to hear yr posters a bit dog-eared.  maybe you'll love them more as a result  ;).

Brian, a pox on the snickering 70 yr old - fancy being so silly at that age.  honestly, some men never grow up! 

photondancer, sorry to hear you had a dud sunday.  hope the movie improved matters!

my weekend was very nice.  friends and ourselves spent about 5 hrs on the side of a hill in the national park near here, sitting around a campfire (fires are legal in that particular spot).  cooked a late lunch/early dinner and  let the kids off the leash while we lay on picnic blankets and just soaked up the peace and beauty of the mountains.  very noice  :).

w
Title: Disaster!
Post by: MellorSJ on May 21, 2006, 08:44:14 PM
Bad news.

The DVD I brought back with me from the US does not play on my player.  It's a region problem.

We can't have the big BBM screening June 3rd.   Damn!

I'll see if there's anything I can think up after I recover from the plane flight, but my hopes are not high.

Even more annoying, I played it on the DVD player in my hotel room in Shanghai.  Worked like a charm.

Sorry.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 21, 2006, 09:50:05 PM
MellorSJ,

damn and double damn - doncha hate that!  you're right, it is a region thing.  we're region 4 (I think!), and US discs are region 1.  you need an all-regions player, and most of the machines here are either single region, or 'multi-format', meaning they'll play region 1 and whatever region the UK is.  in other words, all-regions players are thin on the ground and not generally inexpensive, tho I got mine for about $130.

I actually have a pirated, region 4 disc here, which you'd be very welcome to borrow for the event.  Only thing is it's AWFUL quality and the widescreen format has been 'stretched to fit', so everyone has easter-island-statue faces  :-\.  It's almost an insult to the film, and maybe not worth putting yourself through, but the offer's there.  As to how to get it to you, well, I'm sure we could figure something out!

I'd offer to host it here, but think my husband would have me committed if I tried  ::). 

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on May 22, 2006, 01:14:36 AM
MellorSJ, your DVD player is perhaps a little old? all the models sold in the last couple of years have been multi region thanks to the Dept of Fair Trade actually living up to its name for once. What model is it? my laptop plays region 1 quite happily and it might be possible to use it as an input. I have friends who just love figuring out how to hook things up. :-)
Title: Re: Disaster!
Post by: campfire on May 22, 2006, 07:36:06 AM
Bad news.

The DVD I brought back with me from the US does not play on my player.  It's a region problem.

We can't have the big BBM screening June 3rd.   Damn!

I'll see if there's anything I can think up after I recover from the plane flight, but my hopes are not high.

Even more annoying, I played it on the DVD player in my hotel room in Shanghai.  Worked like a charm.

Sorry.

Hi MellorSJ,

I have ordered straight from amazon.com without specifying anything like region 1 or 4. However  I  have just noticed on the dvd there is a sign like looks like a world and it says 1 on it.. Maybe that means it is region 1.

That runs with no problems on my pc/laptop and dvd player which I have bought two years ago. Perhaps as Photondancer  has suggested the new models can run all different dvd formats.

It took one week to get it from Amazon with a fast international shipment ( it was not necessarily very expensive ).. That was pretty good I reckon.

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: BBM-Intern on May 22, 2006, 05:14:50 PM
Hi everyone,

Bit of old news, but did all you see the episode of Oprah yesterday?  She interviewed the cast of BBM, yes, that's right: Heathbar, Jakey-poo, Michelle Williams and Anna Hathaway.  And the adorable Jakey-poo was so funny and animated... oh, Michelle Williams was so shy and sweet, and so lovey-dovey with Heath.

Managed to record the episode of Oprah in high-definition so when I came home, it was a treat to watch it properly on the big screen.  Does anyone know, has the Arena channel already shown the Ellen Degeneres episode where she interviews Jake Gyllenhaal?

The copies of BBM ordered from Amazon.com will be Region 1 - but they *should* play on almost any player nowadays, most are multi-region.  I did get a copy from the UK as well in Region 2 as well, but I can't really tell the difference (the PAL vs NTSC debate), I'm too busy looking at them cowboys, mouthing the dialogue like some kind of crazed mantra... definitely the symptoms of a brokeaholic.

Oh I do love those dog-eared posters anyway, but not as much as the cast-signed framed poster now hanging in my living room.  Yeah, centre and front, big as can be - signed by the cast members, Ang Lee and Annie Proulx - it's real beaut!  It's not like me to collect movie memorabilia, but this film has got me in its "fierce tight embrace", all I can say is I don't know how to quit you!

Yikes, as I'm typing this, the movie script of 7 April 2004 just arrived in the post, and I've just flicked it open at random and it's the deleted "hippie" scene, 1973.  After Ennis rescues the hippies and their van:

----------------------------

HIPPIE: Hey, break bread with us, western heroes.
ENNIS: Thanks but we gotta make camp by sundown
GIRL 1: You sure? (seductive) We love to share.
HIPPIE: They do man. I'm cool with it.
GIRL 1: Whaddya think?
ENNIS: I suppose not. We'd best be going.
GIRL 2: You don't have to be hung up around us.
JACK: Thanks, but Ennis here, he's just pretty well hung up.

----------------------------

Heck, that was sooo way out, imagine if that was included in the movie!  Frightening part is, I can just imagine a scenario in my head, the characters are not just fictional people anymore, any day now we're gonna start an antiphonal back-and-forth dialogue, just like Annie Proulx described.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on May 22, 2006, 08:08:17 PM
Does anybody speak French? amazon.fr is talking about a Special Edition DVD:
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000FGG7H4/ref%3Dpd%5Fsims%5Fdp/402-1142504-0240928

I've been browsing the amazon.com forums for the DVD and somebody said the British (region 2) DVD is slightly different from the US (region 1) one, at least with some of the subtitles. I was going to check up on this as this has happened for other movies too, and it's one reason why my aforementioned friend likes to buy Region 2 versions. This whole DVD region scheme REALLY BLOWS! I hate it so much I only own half a dozen region-encoded DVDs instead of the big libraries half my friends have.

Anyway, if you bought the DVD from amazon.com it's pretty well guaranteed to be region 1 as they assume their customers are US/Canada. Oddly, the webpage says 'unknown' for Region. Very helpful - not.

BBM-Intern, where did you order the 2004 screenplay from? There's been mention of it on other threads. I downloaded a copy of the 2003 screenplay from savefile but some of the pages won't print so it's turning into a tedious process.

Somebody posted a link to a short clip from the DeGeneres interview, Jake literally falls over laughing. He's too adorable! I liked his performance in "The Good Girl" although his role was a bit too much of a reprise of Donnie Darko and didn't stretch his acting skills.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 23, 2006, 01:04:57 AM
I don't know if anyone watched the Talking Heads (ABC2) interview with John-Michael Howson last night. it was up against A Current Affair but I am a bit sick of the Great Escape now,
Anyway i nearly threw things at thescreen when the following occurred

PETER THOMPSON: In those days in Western Australia as you were growing up, when did you decide you were gay?

JOHN-MICHAEL HOWSON: Oh, I think about 17 - 16, 17.

PETER THOMPSON: Was it hard in those days?

JOHN-MICHAEL HOWSON: I never found it hard because I never thought about it much. You know, I'll tell you what I honestly thought. I thought... I was reading - this is in the '50s - reading 'The City and the Pillar' and 'Finisterre', but the only thing about all those books, it's a bit like 'Brokeback Mountain', which I thought was a miserably depressing film. They always had to die at the end, you know. "For your sins, you will die!" But I used to read all this stuff and think, "I think I'm a bit like the blokes in that book." (Stammers) And it wasn't even a physical/sexual thing, it was an emotional attachment to men, you know. I think that probably comes from my, you know, my childhood. I always was around men and I liked being with those men. I really loved it, but in a non-sexual way - purely as a thing that I could identify with.

And then, eventually, I - I love the word - "came out" to the family, and my mother said, "Oh, darling, it takes all types to make a world." And my stepfather, same thing. I mean, they were very... And my stepfather was a real rugged character, you know. He was an ex-cop who became a publican and had learned to tap dance, so when he had a few drinks, up on the bar and was Fred Astaire. So, you can imagine with a dad like I had and a stepfather like I had, I mean, I loved them - they were fabulous people

I have just sent the following comment
I was very angry with John-Michael's comment about Brokeback Mountain. It was easy for him, flamboyantly gay in the entertainment business where people laughed at him. Those of us who worked in "straight" profession like teaching had to hide our sexuality and still face people who think that all gays have limp wrists and are outrageously camp. Brokeback showed the reality for many men in the 50's & 60's

In fact I think people like J M made life more difficult for us.

Not sure where else on this forum would be appropriate for this message
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: BBM-Intern on May 23, 2006, 02:42:09 AM
Hi everyone,

The 2003 version of the screenplay has been floating around for quite a while, that was until the "Story to Screenplay" came out and the publishers realy cracked down on distributing it.  But, I managed to get hold of a copy, and boy, is it different to the "official" (film tie-in) version.  Sorry to hear about the pdf not printing, PM me and we'll see what we can do to fix that...

BTW, the 2004 version was purchased from ebay - probably paid too much, but don't have time to go hunting for it elsewhere.  Just noticed, the April 2004 version has the "dozy embrace" scene much earlier in the story, while they were still on the mountain - definitely the wrong place to put that scene, IMHO.

Had another laugh at Scene 104: ... it's when Jack and Ennis meet up at the campsite at the "you're late" scene, and Ennis offers a couple of cans of beans

Jack: Beans.
Ennis: And I'm gonna fix 'em just the way you like 'em, spoon 'em cold straight from the can.
Jack: I'll eat 'em from your hand, if you're willin' to breathe the consequences after that tent gets zippered up tonight.

Hahaha!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on May 23, 2006, 05:17:31 AM
Does anybody speak French? amazon.fr is talking about a Special Edition DVD:
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000FGG7H4/ref%3Dpd%5Fsims%5Fdp/402-1142504-0240928

I've been browsing the amazon.com forums for the DVD and somebody said the British (region 2) DVD is slightly different from the US (region 1) one, at least with some of the subtitles. I was going to check up on this as this has happened for other movies too, and it's one reason why my aforementioned friend likes to buy Region 2 versions. This whole DVD region scheme REALLY BLOWS! I hate it so much I only own half a dozen region-encoded DVDs instead of the big libraries half my friends have.

Anyway, if you bought the DVD from amazon.com it's pretty well guaranteed to be region 1 as they assume their customers are US/Canada. Oddly, the webpage says 'unknown' for Region. Very helpful - not.

BBM-Intern, where did you order the 2004 screenplay from? There's been mention of it on other threads. I downloaded a copy of the 2003 screenplay from savefile but some of the pages won't print so it's turning into a tedious process.

Somebody posted a link to a short clip from the DeGeneres interview, Jake literally falls over laughing. He's too adorable! I liked his performance in "The Good Girl" although his role was a bit too much of a reprise of Donnie Darko and didn't stretch his acting skills.

Just for your info, you may find it interesting to note that the French synchronization uses a Québec accent even in the European version, in order to give the dialog a bit more North American feel to it.

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on May 23, 2006, 05:26:46 AM
Oh ok, I read a post a few nights ago about a screenplay on sale on eBay and I guess it's the same one. Did anybody else notice the dreadful printing error in the published screenplay, where the dates suddenly go backwards for a few pages? the scenes being described are not a flashback, so I'm assuming some pages from a previous draft of the screenplay got mixed up. I wish publishing houses would hire proofreaders again - I'm getting very tired of stupid errors like this in every book I buy these days.

There's a scene where Ennis presents Jack with beans in the published screenplay too, not quite the same as the one you quote. Has anybody managed to get the DVD to work and looked for this scene in the Deleted Scenes? I haven't looked at all the threads on this forum yet, it would be nice if somebody's gone to the trouble of compiling all the differences between the screenplay and final cut and save me doing it.

Your post has made me try printing the 2003 screenplay again, skipping those pages that don't work. Looks like some dodgy postscript every so often. *mutter mumble*

Brian, good on you for pointing out the obvious. So many people are prepared to accept homosexuals as long as they stick to 'entertainment' (a revealing name for the industry) and act the clown or queen all day long, but woe betide them if they want to be more than an amusing toy or pet and be treated like a real person. A LOT of the posts on IMDb have said how heartening it is to see homosexuals being portrayed as ordinary hard-working guys and not citified, dandified hairdressers. Did you end up posting that anywhere else? I had a quick look and yeah, none of the other threads jumped out and said 'post it here'.

Can't really think of much else to say right now...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on May 23, 2006, 07:48:47 AM

Had another laugh at Scene 104: ... it's when Jack and Ennis meet up at the campsite at the "you're late" scene, and Ennis offers a couple of cans of beans

Jack: Beans.
Ennis: And I'm gonna fix 'em just the way you like 'em, spoon 'em cold straight from the can.
Jack: I'll eat 'em from your hand, if you're willin' to breathe the consequences after that tent gets zippered up tonight.

Hahaha!

I have got the Story to Screenplay book from Amazon.. It does not have the scene numbers like 2003 version..

Beans joke.. That  was a good one..:)

I wonder if there will be ever a dvd version with all deleted scenes..
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 23, 2006, 02:46:46 PM
Brian, good on you for pointing out the obvious. So many people are prepared to accept homosexuals as long as they stick to 'entertainment' (a revealing name for the industry) and act the clown or queen all day long, but woe betide them if they want to be more than an amusing toy or pet and be treated like a real person. A LOT of the posts on IMDb have said how heartening it is to see homosexuals being portrayed as ordinary hard-working guys and not citified, dandified hairdressers. Did you end up posting that anywhere else? I had a quick look and yeah, none of the other threads jumped out and said 'post it here'.
Thanks Photondancer. I did post it on "Masculine & gay mutually exclusive " thread last night but no-one has commented. That thread was dead for about a month.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on May 23, 2006, 09:52:00 PM
MellorSJ, your DVD player is perhaps a little old? all the models sold in the last couple of years have been multi region thanks to the Dept of Fair Trade actually living up to its name for once. What model is it? my laptop plays region 1 quite happily and it might be possible to use it as an input. I have friends who just love figuring out how to hook things up. :-)

It's a Panasonic SA-HT 70 bought in 2002.  I'm not keen to buy a new one just now, but I'll trek down the store and see what they have.  Pity Oz is the most expensive country in this region for electronics.

I tried, just now, to plug my computer in to the TV.  I have only one plug available for this test, and that's the same size as the headphone jack.  Putting those two together produced no sound or picture, but at least neither the computer nor the screen blew up!  Maybe you could pose that to one of your friends?  (I'm assuming you'll be  able to come, and bring your laptop?)

(I have a mechanical switch with several inputs: One is the VCR, one the DVD, the other is open.  The switch has all RCA plugs, and the other end is that headphone jack looking thing. My computer presumably outputs through the USB port?)

Wolf: Thanks hugely for the offer of the region four DVD.  From what you say, the quality sounds so low as to be distracting :(

My, this makes me cross!

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on May 23, 2006, 11:58:09 PM
It's a Panasonic SA-HT 70 bought in 2002.  I'm not keen to buy a new one just now, but I'll trek down the store and see what they have.  Pity Oz is the most expensive country in this region for electronics.

On the back panel there should be a little picture of a world and a number/s stamped on it, like the ones on the DVD cover. It will probably have the number 4. My googling suggests that cracking region-encoding on this model requires you to buy a special remote control. That seems like too much trouble, considering you can buy multi-region players from K-Mart for $100. Maybe somebody has a multi-region DVD player they could bring over?

I don't know why I assumed the DVD player was needed, laptops can be directly plugged into tvs. Must have been tired. What model tv do you have?

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I tried, just now, to plug my computer in to the TV.  I have only one plug available for this test, and that's the same size as the headphone jack.  Putting those two together produced no sound or picture, but at least neither the computer nor the screen blew up!  Maybe you could pose that to one of your friends?  (I'm assuming you'll be  able to come, and bring your laptop?)

Actually I can't come that day, I fly up to Darwin in the evening. I presume you chose the 3rd for a reason, but I'd be free the next weekend.

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(I have a mechanical switch with several inputs: One is the VCR, one the DVD, the other is open.  The switch has all RCA plugs, and the other end is that headphone jack looking thing. My computer presumably outputs through the USB port?)

This sort of thing is usually done through S-Video ports. I will check if my laptop has S-Video out, I think it does, and you'll need a S-Video in. It sounds like you only have RCA (if it looks like a headphone jack) but adaptors can be bought from electronics shops. This only does the video, you also need to connect the audio from the computer's headphone jack to your tv's sound system with stereo cables.

Apologies for all the techy details for the uninterested, looking up all this is more fun than working...

The region 4 DVD is released here on July 20, looks the same as the region 1 version. I still want to know why the French are getting a 2-disc version!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on May 24, 2006, 12:42:19 AM
On the back panel there should be a little picture of a world and a number/s stamped on it, like the ones on the DVD cover. It will probably have the number 4. My googling suggests that cracking region-encoding on this model requires you to buy a special remote control. That seems like too much trouble, considering you can buy multi-region players from K-Mart for $100. Maybe somebody has a multi-region DVD player they could bring over?
Lo!  So there is! 

Actually I can't come that day, I fly up to Darwin in the evening. I presume you chose the 3rd for a reason, but I'd be free the next weekend.
Actually, it's arbitrary.  Decided to pick a date and see what happened.  June 10th works for me, but see below.

This sort of thing is usually done through S-Video ports. I will check if my laptop has S-Video out, I think it does, and you'll need a S-Video in. It sounds like you only have RCA (if it looks like a headphone jack) but adaptors can be bought from electronics shops. This only does the video, you also need to connect the audio from the computer's headphone jack to your tv's sound system with stereo cables.
Golly!  That sounds like more hardware.  And, knowing me, more blue smoke.

Yes, I seem to have RCA on everything.  I have a flat plasma screen with no tuner.  The DVD player supplies the sound and the VCR supplies the TV tuner.  The TV signal comes in on co-ax to the DVD player. Then (RCA all the way), the signal is split: video to the aforementioned box, and audio to/from the DVD player.  It's quite a tangle back there!

There is one output marked 'S-Video', but it looks like a co-ax socket.  I don't think your laptop would plug in.

Bottom line, I think we have four options:
I'm working on the first, though I'm worried about how my 'tangle' would be affected.

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on May 24, 2006, 03:28:31 AM
The region 4 DVD is released here on July 20, looks the same as the region 1 version. I still want to know why the French are getting a 2-disc version!

Consulting in turn my limited French vocabulary, a friend, and babelfish, I have ascertained that this is not a 2-disc set, just a 'special edition'. By which they mean that it's a pack including the book and soundtrack. Damn! Damn! DAMN! I was so hoping for a director's cut or extra extras. Guess we'll just have to wait a bit longer.

I've heard of similar setups to yours, it must have taken you a while to get it working properly. Hopefully somebody will have a DVD player they can bring over, rather than you having to fork out a fair bit of cash for a new one.

With regards to Candy, several people have told me that Heath is very good and it is a good film. I dunno: campfire said he didn't want to see Jake with anybody else, and I feel I don't want to see Heath kissing anybody except Jake, at least not just yet.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 24, 2006, 07:42:25 PM
Howdy all  :)  only time for a quick post today, starting with,

Brian.  I really like what you wrote about that big nancy boy JMH.  One of the things that really cheeses me off is hearing this complaint about BBM from his ilk.  Could he be any more egocentric than to suggest those who didn't have the same easy, insulated ride he had are somehow fools?  I suppose he's one of the many who just went along to see the pretty lights  ::).
Meantime, I hope you get some response. 

MellorSJ, see now I could have brought my player along - if I'd actually been able to come  :'(.  Incidentally, your 'tangle' made me go  :o.  I'm glad you know what it's all for!

photondancer, babelfish come in handy from time to time  :).

Not much news from my neck of the Mountains.  My father's visit this weekend has been postponed for a month so looks like that'll be the next time I watch BBM with someone.  Might have to give it a spin between now and then - can't imagine a whole month with no boys  :-\.

w

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on May 25, 2006, 02:37:55 AM
MellorSJ, see now I could have brought my player along - if I'd actually been able to come  :'(.  Incidentally, your 'tangle' made me go  :o.  I'm glad you know what it's all for!

Wolf, do you mean you can't come at all or just not that day?

I've been looking into options. Potentially, depending on the connectors on the tv, by the time MellorSJ or I have bought all the convertors and cables needed for connecting my laptop -> tv it it would be the same price as buying a new DVD player. However, since I work at a university there's a chance I'd be able to borrow said convertors from somebody, lots of macs on campus.

Alternatively one of my colleagues has offered to try burning a copy of the DVD and ripping out the region encoding. Not guaranteed to work thanks to copy protection but he gave it a 90% chance. He also said he has a spare multi-region player we can borrow.

I've been sneaking peeks at the Reunion thread all day and watching clips of it people have posted. *sigh* ever since I saw BBM the first time I haven't been able to stop hoping one day I'll be kissed like that!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 28, 2006, 07:32:59 PM
Monday morning greetings  :)

Photon, unfortunately, I'm not able to go at all - at least on weekends!  Way too much on for remainder of the cold months, and then only during daylight hours.  We basically don't go anywhere at night on w/ends. 

As for the DVD problem.  Your friend is correct about the copy protection.  You can't copy on to a video from the region one disc, but you can on a pc (mine dud one was done on a pc).  On one hand you'll get your 'all regions' disc, but it'll be pretty much crap  :-\.  Dud resolution, dud colour, stretched to fit, etc etc.  I'd only watch the one I have in a dire emergency, put it that way.   

Regarding players and region one discs, while I'm a technodunce of the first water, this is one thing I know about  ;D.  While the majority of current model players are sold as 'multi-format', in reality that really means they'll play just region 4 and one (or two) other regions - generally UK.  You have to be VERY specific about needing a player that will play REGION ONE discs, if you go to buy one.  You'll find that most won't, despite the multi-format labelling.  The one I got is a Pioneer, which normally sells at around $180, the cheapest region one player on the market that's not a no-frills brand.  I was lucky enough to get a fairly hefty discount on mine, so was a very happy camper.

Have you not seen the movie in a while?  I remember the days of living on a Youtube diet - very hard work but better than nothing!  Are you really pining for a wall-slammer snog?  While I find the reunion scene earthshaking, I always think at some level "gawd that must've hurt"  ;D ;D ;D. 

Cheers to all. 

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on May 28, 2006, 11:25:06 PM
 :)hi all.......................it's soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo yummy to be back..have been here there and everywhere..home tomorrow night..

ah Wolf, the reunion....isn't that the scene where Jake has said Heath almost broke his nose..now what a way to get a broken nose eh! Imagine walking around with the nose all bandaged and folks asking "How on earth did you do that?"...well, there was some kissing involved ;)

as to the pain...dunno...if Jake was into serious method acting...maybe it didn't hurt...even though his nose was almost broken ;)

am typing this from the library in a mining town in Queensland...where I imagine there are oh so many Jacks and Ennises...all over this planet..

I will go to sleep tonight imagining, under the stars, that sooner than later there won't be a need for the Annies of this world to write Brokeback Mountain tales any longer...that will be my prayer to the night sky...

hugs dear dear pals...

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on May 29, 2006, 01:04:23 AM
On one hand you'll get your 'all regions' disc, but it'll be pretty much crap  :-\.  Dud resolution, dud colour, stretched to fit, etc etc.  I'd only watch the one I have in a dire emergency, put it that way.

According to my colleague the distortion on your copy is more likely due to either a botched widescreen -> fullscreen conversion, or a botched NTSC -> PAL conversion, or both. Distortion can also result from copying from a dual-layer DVD to a single-layer blank, because the data has be heavily compressed to fit, but this is more likely to result in a blocky effect than an El Greco one.

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While the majority of current model players are sold as 'multi-format', in reality that really means they'll play just region 4 and one (or two) other regions - generally UK.  You have to be VERY specific about needing a player that will play REGION ONE discs, if you go to buy one.

Yes, I'd heard this but had forgotten about it. I can't wait for whatever replaces DVDs to come along and that right quickly, as long as it doesn't involve regions!

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Have you not seen the movie in a while?  I remember the days of living on a Youtube diet - very hard work but better than nothing!  Are you really pining for a wall-slammer snog?  While I find the reunion scene earthshaking, I always think at some level "gawd that must've hurt"  ;D ;D ;D. 

Actually I saw it yesterday at Govindas. It's a small screen but you sit so close to it that's not really a problem. It sounded to me like the sound balance was very slightly off though I doubt somebody who hadn't seen the film before would notice. I've sent them an email about it and will be there tonight (for a different film) so we'll see if it's a problem with their sound equipment or just that print of the film.

I'm sure the wall-slamming would hurt :-) but I'm also sure afterwards you'd remember it as wonderful. Jack feeds off that kiss for years, after all. I was watching youtube clips of it last week but it wasn't until someone posted a still that I noticed for the first time how ravaged Jack looks afterwards as Ennis walks off to go up the stairs.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on May 29, 2006, 07:13:40 AM
Hi To you All,

Could not have a chance to say Howdy for a while.
Hope all going well in your lives..
Keep changing the wallpaper on my pc  all the time with breathtaking Jake pics :)

Now time to go through my favourite  BBM scenes before the bed time.. ::)

Take care and keep smiling..

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on May 30, 2006, 06:29:24 AM
Keep changing the wallpaper on my pc  all the time with breathtaking Jake pics :)

Hi campfire, sounds like you've been occupying your time in the best manner possible! :-)

I liked my closeup of his blue eyes and cheeky smile so much I left it up a few days longer than usual and had quite a time tonight choosing its replacement. I finally went with reply #143 from "The Camera Loves Jake" because I decided *very reluctantly* that #83 was too hot for the workplace. Wowee!

Is it just me or has anybody else noticed what lovely hands he has?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 30, 2006, 08:50:06 PM
Howdy to Mdmeshawshank, Campfire, Mr Mellor, BBMIntern and Brian (where are you Brian?),

photon, yes yes yes - to two of your points  ;D.  Jake/Jack does indeed look completely ravaged after the reunion kiss.  ravaged physically and emotionally.  I find THAT specific moment, when you see for the first time, the impact of the reunion on him, utterly heartbreaking.

and Jake's hands are GLORIOUS.  perfect, elegant yet masculine, to die for hands. 

incidentally, thanks for the crap pirate dvd info - makes much sense. 

well I have exactly 2 hrs and 15 mins remaining until I have to start the school run, so thinking I know just how to use it  :P.

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on May 31, 2006, 01:30:28 AM
well I have exactly 2 hrs and 15 mins remaining until I have to start the school run, so thinking I know just how to use it  :P.

w

I can't imagine....
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 31, 2006, 03:53:11 AM
Howdy to Mdmeshawshank, Campfire, Mr Mellor, BBMIntern and Brian (where are you Brian?),
Hi Wolf and everyone else. I am hear madly readingbut little time to post. Because I went to the Writer's Festival Thurs to Sun and my usual activities and caring for Mum, tomorrow is my first day at home in 10 days. And I am supposed to be retired?????
Even at the Writer's Festival I went to listen to Robert Drewe, mainly because Kate Grenville was full up and he told us how impressed he was with Heath Ledger's acting as Ned Kelly (Drewe wrote the original book). I have posted on the Heath thread in detail.
Looking forward to Saturday evening at Stephen's even though my mother told me today that I should be careful of meeting people over the Internet.   ;D
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 31, 2006, 07:19:33 PM
Looking forward to Saturday evening at Stephen's even though my mother told me today that I should be careful of meeting people over the Internet.   ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Tell your mum that your 'friend', Wolf, who may or may not be a 42 yr old housefrau (who could, after all, be a 34 yr old male oddball who lives in a basement with his six cats and four computers), said it's ok, because some of her closest friends were acquired via the good offices of the web.  Seriously, I have a couple of very dear friends in a larger group of quite good friends, all of whom met in cyberspace about 3 or 4 yrs ago.  Not one has thus far turned out to be an axe murderer  ;).  Glad to have you back, meantime.  You're certainly the busiest retiree I know!

I say, my envy of your approaching saturday night at Mr Mellor's is getting quite ..... ahem ..... robust  :-\.

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 31, 2006, 07:27:10 PM
well I have exactly 2 hrs and 15 mins remaining until I have to start the school run, so thinking I know just how to use it  :P.

w

I can't imagine....

 ;D ;D ;D

actually, I didn't get around to it in the end, much to my disappointment!  'real' life intruded in a very rude fashion.  this may be a record for longest period between viewings - 9 days  :o.  in one way that's a good thing ... the anticipation is delicious, but at the same time it's fairly ordinary.  miss the boys  :'(. 

speaking of which, Mr Mellor, how'd you go with the saturday night viewing set-up? 

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 31, 2006, 07:44:52 PM
Seriously, I have a couple of very dear friends in a larger group of quite good friends, all of whom met in cyberspace about 3 or 4 yrs ago.  Not one has thus far turned out to be an axe murderer  ;). 
After corresponding with a dear friend in Michigan for several years. We were both librarians. I finally met her and stayed 2 nights in her home. Several of her friends warned her I might be an axe murderer at which she laughed. However she met me at Detroit airport with her husband and 2 teenage sons  ;D
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on May 31, 2006, 07:45:17 PM

speaking of which, Mr Mellor, how'd you go with the saturday night viewing set-up? 

W

Joan says she has a copy that will play on my player.  She sent it to me yesterday, and I am eagerly awaiting its arrival.  For testing purposes, you understand :) 

I figure if it fails, we'll meet over at Circular Quay, go see Candy, then go out to dinner anyway.  I just hope Brian's mum is doing well.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on May 31, 2006, 10:17:24 PM
I am ECSTATIC to announce that the DVD plays.  I have removed the chinese subtitles and cranked up the brightness a bit, and it looks good.  Very very good.

Off to buy munchies!

See you on Saturday!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on June 01, 2006, 01:40:37 AM
Well Wolf, you and I are just going to have to gnash our teeth in envy together! along with our non-NSW friends. Speaking of whom: BBM-intern, what are you up to these days?

(Actually, Stephen, if you private message/email me your address I could try diverting on the way to the airport to say hello to folks. Depends on how my packing goes, I am the world's ditheriest packer.)

Brian, you certainly do get out and about! I did actually make it to one Writer's Festival event this year, usually I miss it completely. I read your comment over on the Heath thread; it's sad that Ledger, who appears to be a fairly serious person, is having to struggle with the studios to be seen as more than a prettyboy. One of my friends never fails to make a snide reference to his good looks whenever I suggest going to see a Heath film, maybe his girlfriend feels about Heath the way I do about Jake and he's jealous.:-)

My Jake pictures continue to disturb the guys at work. I think during my last week I will put up some of the more risque ones, such as the 'wet' picture and the Jarhead muscle shots, and make them all feel totally inadequate...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on June 01, 2006, 04:44:09 PM
Hi Everybody,

It's Friday again.. Even though I have got millions of things to finish at work before the end of today, still it feels good. What a feeling.. Toyota!! .. :)

I have started reading one of the fan fictions mentioned in the daily newsletter.. Not sure if you have seen the link..
It is called Dreaming.. Basically Ennis wakes up from a dream and... written by a mother who has got 3 teenage kids.. Interesting and just feeds our desires to have Ennis and Jack together ..
Link is below.

http://cathalin.livejournal.com/3381.html#cutid1

That page is one of the last chapters.. I think it is up to Chap 9. .. Recommended .

I am more fan of  biographies, or self help type psychological books. Brokeback Mountain has been one of the first fiction story/books I have read in a loooong time.. Now continuing that with 'Dreaming' .

Yes.. I was jealous of you guys got together to watch BBM dvd together. There is nobody  in Melbourne to watch BBM together .Well, who knows maybe one day I will fix it when I can't stand it any longer  :D

Nice weekend to All..

Take care
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 01, 2006, 09:43:37 PM
Campfire, I'm coming to Melb in next couple of months for a weekend, and bringing my DVD to show friends there.  Maybe we could meet up!

Photon, yeah, bugger about sat night.  I'll be sitting at home watching The Bill and thinking about those lucky ducklings enjoying our boys without us  :'(.

Brian, second Mr Mellor's good health wishes for you mum, and that you're able to attend the Lodge Meeting!

Mr Mellor, yay yay yay bananas with brown sugar on top  :D.  very pleased indeed to read you're going to be able to do BBM on sat night - pleased and envious!  Incidentally, who's Joan?  :-[.

Have a great night saturday, you guys.  Will be thinking of you!

W

Gawd help me ... I don't think I'll be able to stand it not seeing the boys for another week.  Since I can't stand it, I suppose I'll have to fix it.  hmmm ....... tonight looks like a good night to fix it.  cold, rainy, mountains, etc.  can't think of a more fitting context to have the boys over for coffee and cherry cake.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 02, 2006, 05:13:24 AM
Thanks for reminding me to set the tape for the Bill :D
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 02, 2006, 07:15:15 AM
 :) X 75 zillion happinesses...the dvd works at Mr Mellor's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wolf Darlin'...Joan is moi ;)

there aren't words known nor unknown to describe how happy I am ..excited re tomorrow...to watch the gem with 3 others who've wept and taken bbm into their souls....a joy and an honour...to share...

will be at the computer on Sunday morn with a report!

am making raspberry muffins..just for fun...without blowing one's own trumpet I doth make bloody wondrous raspberry muffins...walnut butter topping...

as we sip from our glasses..I promise you all this...we will stand...drink to you all...to Annie in particular...to Dave...to the cast 'n crew...to life...we will drink to life..and one more drink to the g'day mob....

I feel that, over the years, we will meet each other..here and there...this wondrous bond...this thread that has joined us in such an exquisite fashion..

love youse all...
hugs
and will carry you all in my heart tomorrow...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: BBM-Intern on June 02, 2006, 08:33:40 AM
Hey everyone,

A big hug to all you crazy fans of BBM.  Wonder if any of you are in Brisbane?  Cos, the Brisbane Pride Choir (don't know if I got the full name right), are planning to run a raffle at Pride Fair Day in Musgrave Park on June 17.

The choir's committee asked me to run the raffle, so I chose... tada, "Brokeback Mountain" as the theme.  Members have donated bottles of bourbon whiskey, toy sheep, budweiser beer, movie posters, and there's more coming: genuine copy of DVD (Region 1), screenplay, perhaps a cowboy hat (sparkly one, not serious), bandannas, beans, canned cherries (for cherry cake) etc.  Will probably be enough stuff for about three different hampers, so there's a better chance for punters to win something.

If you're in Brizzie on that day, please drop by South Brisbane's Musgrave Park and say hello, I will be dressed as Jack f'ing Twist - as authentic as I can get.  Buy a raffle ticket or three, maybe you'll win something.  It looks like it's going to be a hoot!

BTW, my obsession extends to watching a chapter of BBM a day on my PocketPC - coverted the entire movie onto MPEG1 and it plays beautifully on PocketTV.  Headphones on in the bus, the daily grind of the commute just fades away watching our boys doing what comes naturally.

Another snippet for you fans, from the 31 March 2004 script:

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43 EXT: BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN, WYOMING: CAMP DUSK: 1963

The setting sun leaves the sky ablaze in orange and purple.
ENNIS rides into camp.
JACK stands when he sees ENNIS.  Smiles.
ENNIS avoids JACK's eyes. Dismounts.
ENNIS yanks saddle and saddle blanket off his horse.
JACK wanders over with the horsebrush. Starts to brush down Cigar.
ENNIS grabs the horsebrush from JACK'S hand.

ENNIS: He's my horse, I guess I can rub him down.

JACK stands back, a look of embarassed disappointment on his face.
ENNIS turns back to Jack.

ENNIS (CONT'D): Look.  I ain't no queer.

JACK: Who said you was?

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Funny thing is, I can just picture the scene in my mind, I must be channeling Ang Lee at the moment!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 02, 2006, 04:55:22 PM
 :) golly now dear intern....a flight to Brisbane to see you as Jack?...or stay in Old Sydney Town to watch the gem with Stephen, Brian, and an old pal of mine..Marcia...wee 4!  ;) ;) ;) ;)

do let us know how the day went...

time to bake the raspberry muffins...

the day is exquisite..raining yesterday..however Sunshine decided to win out...bravo to the elements!

again, remember all, we'll drink to you all....'specially Annie!

hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 02, 2006, 07:55:43 PM
 :'( just had a call from Marcia...as sick as a dog..alas alas alas..sounds soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sad...will drop in to give her a hug on the way to the station..we are down to 3...ah! but WHAT a 3!!!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on June 02, 2006, 08:16:37 PM
Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 02, 2006, 08:19:48 PM
Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!


I am still coming at least if I can get awys from the computer and go take a shower :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 03, 2006, 05:32:09 PM
 :)

ok darlings..in no set order..a few nanoseconds at computer...Dad coming today (we're off to Adelaide for a week)..also today the drive to my nephew's...I saw the mountain film the first time with him....both he and Rosemarie, his mother..are off to London while we're in Adelaide..so..a scrumptious farewell dinner...busy day..

get on with it gal...YESTERDAY

 :'(Marcia's sickness
the delight of sighting Brian on the top level of the second carriage...
chat chat chat all the way to Central...freezing on the station...
the jolly walk to Stephen's..Brian with his clear printout of Stephen's directions...moi with a tattered something or other..my hand drawn map..complete with waves for water...Darling Harbour water...
Brian has to get used to crossing a street when there are absolutely NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cars coming..even though the sign says not to ;)
the joy of meeting Mr Stephen
ah..so this is where we sit and watch together...
ah..this champagne tastes as champagne tastes...mmmmmmmmmmmmm
since Brian doesn't like blue cheese...moi scored double..
gorgeous spread for us to nibble...elegant as the man himself..
THEN TIINA ARRIVED!(on her way to Darwin for a wedding thank you very much...'n to think she made time for the gathering!!!)
we sipped the luscious liquid...
we sat...'n the cords played...midway Tiina had to catch a plane...we farewelled her...talked some more...and walked the walk back to bbm..
yep..tears X 3
precious time
scrumptious dinner...
raspberry muffins..
I gotta go..
'twas a night to remember forever..
hugs to all
let's bloody well do this again...are ya listening Wolf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
more hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 03, 2006, 08:27:41 PM
Wow, thanks for the very "it was like being there" report MmeShawshank  :) :).  Or maybe I should start calling you Joan! 

Sounds like a fine time had by all - I'm deeply envious  :'( ;D.  Mr Mellor, I take it your hosting skills are finely tuned  ;).  You can count me in for the next one. Can't miss those rasberry muffins now can I  ;).

Brian, I hope you were able to tape The Bill.  it was a fairly colourful episode, non?  went like this  :o a couple of times.  I'm going to have to demonstrate my ignorance again and ask, who Tiina is  :-[.  That's the trouble with these user names, you meet 'new' people when you finally meet, as it were!

Have a lovely day all.  Gorgeous winter day here in Sydney and surrounds.

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on June 03, 2006, 08:49:02 PM
Wow, thanks for the very "it was like being there" report MmeShawshank  :) :).  Or maybe I should start calling you Joan! 

Sounds like a fine time had by all - I'm deeply envious  :'( ;D.  Mr Mellor, I take it your hosting skills are finely tuned  ;).  You can count me in for the next one. Can't miss those rasberry muffins now can I  ;).

Brian, I hope you were able to tape The Bill.  it was a fairly colourful episode, non?  went like this  :o a couple of times.  I'm going to have to demonstrate my ignorance again and ask, who Tiina is  :-[.  That's the trouble with these user names, you meet 'new' people when you finally meet, as it were!

Have a lovely day all.  Gorgeous winter day here in Sydney and surrounds.

W
My hosting skills are poor, but I'm pretty good with a champagne opener.  As for the muffins, those were from Joan/MmeSh, and very delicious too. 

But it's so friggin *cold*!  Had to have the heaters on where we ate--outside on the balcony. 

Ah, Sydney winters! 
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 03, 2006, 08:55:25 PM
ok..Tiina=Phontondancer

'n Joan is fine!

while I like to watch a film in complete silence (apart from the actors' voices that is!) I do have to admit saying, as Mr Jack leant against the truck outside Joe's office, "Permission to faint?"

each time I take in that film..more and more and more I discover..both about the film and about moiself ;)

yep..exquisite day...picking my Dad up from Penrith Station...then to Bilgola..

oh let's do this bbm thing again...with Wolf and Marcia for starters..

again Mr ELEGANT Stephen, a zillion thanks for sharing your beautiful space with us..so we could enjoy again..

hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on June 03, 2006, 11:42:13 PM
ok..Tiina=Phontondancer

'n Joan is fine!

while I like to watch a film in complete silence (apart from the actors' voices that is!) I do have to admit saying, as Mr Jack leant against the truck outside Joe's office, "Permission to faint?"

each time I take in that film..more and more and more I discover..both about the film and about moiself ;)

yep..exquisite day...picking my Dad up from Penrith Station...then to Bilgola..

oh let's do this bbm thing again...with Wolf and Marcia for starters..

again Mr ELEGANT Stephen, a zillion thanks for sharing your beautiful space with us..so we could enjoy again..

hugs
You're on!

Any date before June 24th.  I have to leave that morning for Boston.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 04, 2006, 02:24:26 AM
Yes Thanks a lot Stephen for a great night. And thanks Joan for telling everyone I do not cross against the Don't Walk sign and don't like Blue vein cheese. I loved the garlic bread, champagne and chardonnay plus the red we consumed over dinner. Found it hard to get up and get going this morning. Midnight arrival home is way past my usual bedtime now and it does not seem that long ago in my wicked past that I would leave Oxford street about 3am for the drive back to the Mountains- often caught a few winks near the Glenbrook lights.
Also enjoyed showing Mum my little present from Joan of a minibottle of Southern Comfort, a tiny wool fleece, 2 packets of tissues all tied up with a card covered in bluebirds and the quote "Where bluebirds sing 'n there's a whisky spring" June 3 2006. Sorry she did not understand. Keeps telling me she never watches a movie more than once. Sadly she is now too blind to see any movie.
See Stephen has great ideas for a t-shirt on another thread.
Would be great to meet other Aussie Brokeaholics. Am envious of Stephen going to a party in Arizona(?) with at least 80 of us tragics attending.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 04, 2006, 04:54:56 PM
Hi y'all...am still in the past...Sat night actually...'twas special!

as to the next...well I guess the dear Wolf is THE one to consider...anyway...find a date and if I can make it, I'm there less than a nanosecond..oh goody...more gift bags to get together :) :) :)

'n the lovely Marcia might be well by then!

time to pack for Adelaide...'tis sprinkling...seems the rain has forgotten how to fall :'(

hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 04, 2006, 05:30:02 PM
Here is a record of our BBM night thanks to madamshawshanks
Back Madamshawshanks, Photondancer, Brianr & SJMellor in front
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g218/brianr44/bbmnight06.jpg)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 04, 2006, 05:32:51 PM
Raining quite heavily in mountains so hopefully also over dam. Enjoy your trip to Adelaide and hope photondancer returns safely from Darwin.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 04, 2006, 06:58:09 PM
Have put thisi on the Coming out thread but also want to let my Aussie mates know
My career was as a High School teacher. In the 80's when I was at a senior catholic high school (16-17  yr old boys), I was active in the campaign for gay rights and did not care about being outed although it was a bit of a shock when I appeared on the national news sitting in a gay rights meeting. It was all over the school the next day but mainly confirmed many students' opinion. Over  the years I helped a number of students who came out to me but it was sometimes a problem to my maintaining discipline. When I moved on (I think to the relief of the Brother Principal) it was to a junior high (12 - 15) and I went back into the closet as far as work was concerned.
However every now and then I receive a message from an ex-student of those days. Yesterday was from one who I did know was gay as I met him on the scene after he left school but had lost contact. He tells me he now lives In Munich which is my favourite European city so I have thoughts of meeting him for dinner some night as I fully intend to return there.
More important and bringing tears to my eyes is one from another student which arrived today.
After describing his career he says
I would like to say I appreciated your webpage and although not apparent as a young guy it was important to have people like you in the school. Made life a little easier.
 
Anyway won’t go on, just wanted to say hi and let you know that there are people out here who appreciated knowing you.
He has obviously seen my webpage which highlights Brokeback and this forum (I am now retired and so do not care who knows)

Just putting the point that being out can cause hassles but may also help someone else who is struggling with his/her sexuality.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 04, 2006, 07:57:36 PM
merci dear brian...

oops...tears approaching..

hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on June 05, 2006, 06:06:39 AM
Here is a record of our BBM night thanks to madamshawshanks
Back Madamshawshanks, Photondancer, Brianr & SJMellor in front
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g218/brianr44/bbmnight06.jpg)

Just wanted to let y'all know that I posted a link to this picture in the 24hour Diner thread, so that people over there could enjoy seeing your picture. Thanks!

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on June 05, 2006, 06:18:46 AM
It was great to know that you all have watched the BBM and enjoyed a beautiful evening together..

Thanks for sharing the pic with us.

Cheers to you all too !!  :)

Hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on June 05, 2006, 06:24:00 AM
Campfire, I'm coming to Melb in next couple of months for a weekend, and bringing my DVD to show friends there.  Maybe we could meet up!

Thanks Wolf, please let me know when you will be in Melbourne in next  few months time..

Take care

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 05, 2006, 05:35:10 PM
Ohh lovely lovely posts from you guys.  What a great read this sparkly, sunny tuesday morning  :)

The pic was VERY welcome - I feel like I know you four just that little bit better now!

Again, am deeply envious of your little fellowship.  Can quite see why the night will remain a lovely memory. 

And Mr Mellor, I had no idea you were off to a 'convention', you lucky man!  Such events are sublime, if memory serves (I used to go to Star Trek cons as a we slip of a girl in me thirties  ;)).  To saturate oneself in one's 'obsession', surrounded by true believers is like nothing else.  Am now madly trying to figure out if a leave pass might be available to me prior to your departure date! - see below.

Currently wednesdays are best for me, at least between school hours!  It's my only day of true liberty, but I can definitely get into town, or even meet Brian and Joan in Penrith or some such for a bite of lunch.   As for evenings, I'm due a night out within next few weeks, so who knows!  Still wondering how I'd explain it to Him Indoors though "Darling, I'm off to watch THAT MOVIE with some complete strangers I 'met' on the internet, back around midnight".   Apoplexy doesn't begin to describe his likely reaction  ;D ::) ;D.  One of those little 'marriage saver' white lies might be the ticket I think  :P.  Funny to think that the aforementioned apoplectic hubby is the same man who used to deliver me to Star Trek conventions and wave me off with a kiss and a "have fun, see you in two days".   

By the way, Photon, you look vaguely familiar!

Brian, had a good chuckle at your nanna naps at Glenbrook lights on way home from Oxford St.  You rascal you  ;D ;D ;D.

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 05, 2006, 05:43:30 PM
Like a big duffer, I completely forgot to mention that I watched our movie last night - first time in two weeks!

Hubby went to bed early as he has a cold, so I took the opportunity  :P.  Like Joan, I'm finding every viewing gives me something new, about the movie itself, and about me.  Last night I really felt, viscerally, the sexual tension at the reunion.  I don't mean I felt it MYSELF (I use that up during FNIT and SNIT  :P :P), but I felt them feel it, if that makes sense.  I always do of course, but last night I REALLY REALLY felt it.  It was palpable in a new way.

Also, like Joan, I require permission to faint every time Jack leans on that truck.  The way he pushes those slender hips to the side - why it's an intravenous mega-dose of viagra!.

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on June 05, 2006, 07:54:28 PM
Ohh lovely lovely posts from you guys.  What a great read this sparkly, sunny tuesday morning  :)
Sparkly?  Sunny?  Where the heck are you?  It's pissing down in the CBD.  No fun at the best of times, but they switched off the power to do some work on the substation after we lost power on New Years Day.  (45+C outside, facing southwest at 17:00, and NO AIRCONDITIONING.)  I'm glad they're fixing it, but why today in the middle of a rainstorm?!?!  Still, if that's my biggest worry, I'm in pretty good shape!

And Mr Mellor, I had no idea you were off to a 'convention', you lucky man!  Such events are sublime, if memory serves (I used to go to Star Trek cons as a we slip of a girl in me thirties  ;)).  To saturate oneself in one's 'obsession', surrounded by true believers is like nothing else.  Am now madly trying to figure out if a leave pass might be available to me prior to your departure date! - see below.
I'm going to the Texas BBQ in San Antonio.  I looked at the dates of all the get togethers, and the only other one that was possible was Vancouver, but that's so damn hard to get to from where I'll be (Arizona), and not on the way anywhere...except back here on that Air Canada flight :)   But see above about winter, rain, and cold :)

I'll go visit the parents in the UK instead.   (TUS->DFW->SAT->ORD->MAN and a drive south.)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on June 06, 2006, 01:10:01 AM
Sadly I don't have time to reply to you all just now: I am on my way to meet a friend after staggering into work this arvo after a 6am arrival in rainy cold Sydney after a lovely warm weekend in Darwin - I felt like shouting to the pilot "turn this damn plane around!"

But I had to tell you guys - guess which movie was playing at Darwin's Deckchair Cinema last night??? What a perfect way to end the trip! relaxing with our boys on a balmy night overlooking Darwin harbour. Sigh, life should always be like that...Pretty good crowd for Darwin on a Monday night too, people were already leaving by the time I got up but there must have been over 60 people there still.

Oh yeah, the wedding was great too. :-)

More tomorrow. Keep well (and dry) all my lovely new friends!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 06, 2006, 09:05:12 PM
Just typed out a nice long post with thoughts to Mr Mellor and Photon, and of course I lost it  :'( >:( :'(.  Dang computer decided to go west on me for a minute there.

Having a non-childfree wednesday today as smallest one at home after catching hubby's cold, so too busy to retype.  Just consider yerselves thunk about and issued with  :) ;) :D :o ::) :-[ :-\ :-* where appropriate.

Back tomorrow, but before I go, just wanted to crow about having watched the boys again last night.  Granted not outdoors in balmy Darwin, but still!  Think I'm going through yet another round of Brokeback Fever  :-\.

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on June 07, 2006, 07:21:00 AM
Hello Madamshawshanks, Photondancer, Brianr, SJMellor and Wolf,

I have wanted to share a success story with you :)  I have got my ex watched Brokeback last night. I have said so many good things about the movie, obviously marketed it well, he could not resist.
He was surprised to find out Jack was 'deceased' :( . He is genereally a very logical person and tends to ask 'whys' all the time. Somehow this time shut up and watched with no questions, quietly . Of course I was the one could not shut up... 'Look Ennis says he is sick of beans, because he started caring about Jack...' or see he kills the elk because .. now watch the mum, she  knows .. ' well could not help it. he is the first person who actually watched my beloved movie with me since March and he is my ex . It is like a joke a bit . But I was happy to have a three dimensional company to watch it.


Hey Wolf, I am an old Trekkie myself , cruized a bit in the Trekkies tread , did you know there is a  tread for Trekkies too ?

 Tomorrow Thursday and long weekend is just around the corner.. Anybody doing something interesting during long weekend ?

Hugs ...



Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 08, 2006, 09:04:01 PM
Greetings G'dayers,

Campfire, was interesting to read of your ex's reaction to the movie - and your little interjections 'explaining' things for him  ;D. 

And what a coincidence about the Trekki-ism!  Surprising to see just how many Brokies are also Trekkies  :o :o.  What that says I have I not the foggiest, but it's certainly interesting.  And yes, I've visited the thread in question  ;).

I had an ellucidating chat with the woman at my local Blockbuster store yesterday.  They had a flyer promoting our movie on the front counter and I mentioned it'd be interesting to see how well it rents.  She immediately asked "have you seen it?", to which I admitted of only 5 of my 14 viewings  :-[.  She said she hadn't seen but was planning to, and proceeded to tell me about her dear old dad.  He's in his early 70's, dyed-in-the-wool homophobe, living in QLD (not that there's anything wrong with that!).  Went to local cinema with his missus despite knowing subject matter beforehand.  Described his reaction to his daughter as "it felt like I'd been punched in the gut".  On the walk home he had to stop and sit down for a while to collect himself.  Does that not sound HORRIBLY familiar to us mad folk?  Anyhoo, he absolutely loved it and has since said it changed his life in unexpected ways.  Amazing!  I came away feeling really good about ...... well ........ everything!  Was moved to fly the flag for remainder of day yesterday so dug out my "I wish I knew how to quit you" bag and proudly carried it about on my various errands  :) :) :).

This morning was still feeling the lurv, so donned my t-shirt (same line as bag) and was delighted to get this,  :o, from a woman at the supermarket.  I just KNEW she knew, if you know what I mean  ;D.  You can ALWAYS spot the knowers when you're in team colours - not that there are alot of knowers out here in the sticks.  Suppose that's why they're so obvious - they literally stop in their tracks!  Any day now I'm expecting to have someone actually approach and ask the question  ;D.  I know if I saw a BBM t-shirt I'd absolutely HAVE to speak to the wearer.  Would be such a surprise out here in redneck country that I'd never forgive myself if I let the opportunity pass!

Note to Joan, if you're ever hanging about Penrith Plaza and see the above-mentioned black t-shirt being sported by a 40-something, tired looking female, make sure you say hello  ;).

Well, we're off for our camping adventure this weekend - rain notwithstanding!  This time tomorrow will be sitting around campfire, brewing coffee, maybe eating beans, and trying to decide if tent looks right.  incidentally, my hubby generally takes his harmonica along on such forays - how perfectly appropriate  ;D.  Will have you crazy folk there with us in spirit, whether you like it or not  :P

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on June 08, 2006, 10:55:50 PM
Enjoy your weekend, Wolf, rain notwithstanding.  (I'm rapidly getting tired of it, but these last two days have been glorious.  Even shucked my jacket!)

And of course everone else.  Enjoy the long weekend!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 10, 2006, 12:07:04 AM
Note to Joan, if you're ever hanging about Penrith Plaza and see the above-mentioned black t-shirt being sported by a 40-something, tired looking female, make sure you say hello  ;).

Well, we're off for our camping adventure this weekend - rain notwithstanding!  This time tomorrow will be sitting around campfire, brewing coffee, maybe eating beans, and trying to decide if tent looks right.  incidentally, my hubby generally takes his harmonica along on such forays - how perfectly appropriate  ;D. 
I also frequent the plaza though not so much recently so will look out for you. Am not envying you camping today. It is very cold and wet - hope your tent is weatherproof and you have some card games to go along with the harmonica.
Mum is very poorly, I left home 6am yesterday and returned 7pm. Physiotherapist came and showed us how to care for her better and not hurt our backs. Feel guily not being there today as it is very hard on my sister. She spent Thursday night on the couch but in her bed (separate unit same corridor) last night after I made Mum promise to ring for her when needed during the night. She needs help with everything including toileting now and the wheelchair is necessary t ogo from bed to chair in lounge room. Mum was bilous most of Friday perhaps due to morphine. Every thing that helps one way seems to have a reaction in another way. Will drive down tomorrow.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 13, 2006, 08:19:48 PM
Greetings all,

Didn't end up camping after all - far too wet!  Had indoor weekend with lots of visitors instead - they love our mtn air and our fireplace  ;D.  Will try the camping again this weekend - wish us luck  :).

Brian, thinking of you m'dear.  Do hope your mum is feeling better.  Morphine can be a real bitch for some folk - quite nauseating.  It can be very difficult to get the meds right in the elderly and infirm.  They're often on such a vast array of different things that there's bound to be unwanted reactions at some point.  Doesn't mean it can't be done though - just takes time to adjust etc.  Stay in touch if you can, and let us know how both of you are keeping.

Mr Mellor, you must have loved Monday then - glorious glorious sunshine after days of cold rain  :D.

Cheers, I'm off to watch BBM as I have 2.5 hours of free time - miracles!

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on June 13, 2006, 08:45:09 PM
Oker Dokers.  I reckon it's time for another fantastic showing!

I'm only here for ten more days, but I reckon I can fit it in.  Can't do this Friday or next or next Monday.

How about we get together next Staurday (my place, same deal), or second best Tuesday (same deal)?

How many can make it?  Brian?  Madame? Photon? Wolf? Others?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on June 13, 2006, 08:47:21 PM
Thinking of 'only ten more days', you might want to check out The Director's Cut: http://www.sydneyoperahouse.com/sections/whats_on/boxoffice/event_details.asp?EventID=1803&sm=1&ss=1 It's only on for three more days.

I highly recommend it.  I'd go see it again if anyone's up for it!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 14, 2006, 02:53:37 PM
Oker Dokers.  I reckon it's time for another fantastic showing!

I'm only here for ten more days, but I reckon I can fit it in.  Can't do this Friday or next or next Monday.

How about we get together next Staurday (my place, same deal), or second best Tuesday (same deal)?

How many can make it?  Brian?  Madame? Photon? Wolf? Others?
Sorry Stephen, too much on my plate at the moment
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 14, 2006, 07:33:36 PM
 :)moi can make either Saturday or Sunday....Stephen..how about we see if any others dip into G'day in the next few whatevers  or so...before locking in the day...'twould be wonderful if it happens again..will see if Marcia is well enough..she's had a quite awful time of it...


hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on June 14, 2006, 10:42:21 PM
:)moi can make either Saturday or Sunday....Stephen..how about we see if any others dip into G'day in the next few whatevers  or so...before locking in the day...'twould be wonderful if it happens again..will see if Marcia is well enough..she's had a quite awful time of it..

Sounds like a good plan.  It would be good to see you again before I have to go... 
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 15, 2006, 03:01:01 AM
posted this on the heath thread but thought might be relevant to us in G'day land
I saw 'Candy' today and I am sorry to say it was the most harrowing 2 hours  I have ever spent at a movie. Still not sure how it ended up. It is the last time I choose a movie purely based on the actor. Heath of course was very good, it was interesting to see the facial expressions that I associate with BBM. However he does tend to mumble, perhaps both Ennis and Dan require this but I found it difficult and this time he had his Australian accent.  However I grew up before drugs were common and have always avoided the drug  aspect of the gay scene. I even avoid anyone smoking. I admit to having a small problem with alcohol for a while - part of the gay acceptance problem but I can now take it or leave it and I mostly leave it. I guess Candy might be a good lesson in deterring a young person from doing drugs but as a retired school teacher I know not to have too high hopes. 
I guess when you consider the only other movies I have seen twice in recent years have been "Ladies in Lavender" and "the Lord of the Rings' trilogy and I love period dramas like 'Pride & Prejudice' you can understand why this was not my thing. Hopefully I can see Casanova sometime.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on June 15, 2006, 03:38:01 AM
Oker Dokers.  I reckon it's time for another fantastic showing!

Woot! just as my craving was building up to unbearable levels it's MellorSJ to the rescue!

I have GOT to stop saying things like 'will write tomorrow', it never fails to jinx me and I end up not having time to write for days. Hope everybody is doing well, Brian I am very sorry to hear how poorly your mum is. I've been there and it is very dispiriting: hang on, we are all thinking of you!

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How about we get together next Staurday (my place, same deal), or second best Tuesday (same deal)?

Which Saturday is that? if it's the 17th I am free from mid-afternoon on, but if it's the 24th I will have to do some rescheduling.

I wanted to see The Director's Cut but in the end decided I couldn't really afford it. Only 15 more days of employment to go. :-/ How good was it?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on June 15, 2006, 07:41:18 AM
Woot! just as my craving was building up to unbearable levels it's MellorSJ to the rescue!

I have GOT to stop saying things like 'will write tomorrow', it never fails to jinx me and I end up not having time to write for days. Hope everybody is doing well, Brian I am very sorry to hear how poorly your mum is. I've been there and it is very dispiriting: hang on, we are all thinking of you!

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Hi Brian,

Just wanted to say , you and your sister are doing a great job.. I've remembered my grandmother and the way my mum looked after her whilst she was working and taking care of us. It is a big responsibility ,so  tiring emotionally and physically. As Photondancer says, we are all thinking of you.

Was thinking to watch Candy, although  my impression was - from commercials - I would end up being quite depressed at the end of the movie.To see Heath, I may give it a go.

Hey Photondancer, hope all will go well for you during the break in 15 days time, whatever you like to do..

Have you all seen the net called bettermost.net ? What a good name , isn't it?

Have a nice weekend everyone, if you get together , please post a  pic on the 'G'day' forum.. Lovely to see my Aussie Brokeback people :)
Title: BrisVegas alert - Brokeback hamper on offer on Saturday
Post by: BBM-Intern on June 15, 2006, 08:51:51 AM
Hello happy campers,

Just to let you know that on Saturday 17-Jun-2006, the Brisbane Lesbian and Gay Pride Choir will be singing at the Brisbane Pride Festival.  We will also be running a stall, with raffle prizes on the Brokeback Mountain theme!

Among the many prizes, we have on offer:


If you can, drop by Musgrave Park from 12:00 onwards - the choir will be launching its CD and we'll be singing live on stage, then it's into the festivities for the afternoon.  Get dressed up, I want to see a whole bunch of Ennises, Jacks, Lureens and Almas.  Oh, if you look like Randall Malone, just come as you are!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 15, 2006, 05:28:48 PM
 :) hey there intern have the bestest day tomorrow....your post has zillions of whatever somethings of energy...lucky lucky Brisbane to have you there...

Photondancer..this Saturday it is..........................how about that St Stephen comes to our rescue...'n I'll be able to hand deliver your goody bag ;)

will be scrumptious to see you both again...and Pdancer, this time you won't be zapping off to Darwin and all those quirky dressers at weddings ;) ;) ;) am looking forward to the wedding story..

Stephen..thanks so much for your generosity...roll on Saturday...4pmish as before?

We'll raise our glasses to you all...with such smiles...'n then we'll bbm...and our eyes will be a little redder than before...have read somewhere that tears lessen stress...as in stroke stress etc...

golly, with the rivers of tears I wept I should be the healthiest dame on the bloody planet!

hugs to all...

see you two tomorrow!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on June 15, 2006, 08:17:42 PM
OK you two.  I got the last table at The Malaya, and I'll lay in a glass or two for the afternoon.

We are presently three: Madame, Photon and me.  (Brian, sadly, can't make it.)  Anyone else?

I know you know how to get here.  I'll see you at 16:00!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 15, 2006, 09:56:50 PM
Griefous - Wolfie misses out again  :'( :'(.  So far the weather is looking ideal for camping so it's off to the fireside for moi tomorrow night. 

Mr Mellor, c'n'ardly believe you're going to the Malaya - if that's not the iceing on the cake I wont' be eating, I dunno what is.  FTR, I'm married to a Malaysian and it's the food we love bestest.   I really must find a away around this party-pooping and just get there - if not this time then the next.  Very keen to meet you good folk at this juncture - watching our boys seems quite secondary (wash my mouth out!).

Photon, are you really retiring in 15 days?  Aught I congratulate or commiserate?

Campfire, looks like I'll be in Melb mid October.  Likely to be just a friday and sat night, but we may be able to squeeze in a coffee and a viewing  :P.

Brian, sorry to hear Candy was so ...... um .... uncandy-like  :-\.  I'm 100% with you on drug-abuse themed films.  It's just plain old not very cheerful stuff.   I'm dead curious about Heath being a bit Ennis-like but with his own accent tho - just tried to visualise it and ended up with a bloke saying "take it easy mate, that nag's a bit spooky"  ;D ;D. 

Given your current circumstances caring for your mum, I realise you're probably not readily available for lunch or similar anytime soon, but I would very much like to pursue same with yourself and Joan.  As I've mentioned, wednesdays are best for me since it means I'm child-free, but can do other days if they suit.

Joan, see above!  further, had meant to mention ages ago, but forgot - your BBM goody bags quite bowled me over.  What a lovely soul you are to do that - and with such thought and care.  You realise I'm now hoping like mad I'll get one some day  :-[ :P ;D.

BBMIntern, I'm with Joan on the infectious joy in your post! I could just about feel your enthusiasm from here  :).  Would absolutely LOVE to come along and see you guys put your pipes to work, but it's a bit far!  And how impressive is your array of prizes?  Well done whoever came up with that list!  Have a great time and consider us there in spirit.

I have a couple of girlfriends coming over tonight to watch dvd's - and here's the rub - no BBM  :o.  Both are confirmed Brokies and we've all three seen it within past two weeks, so thought it might be novel to watch something else.  Of all things, we've come up with the following double feature:  The Thin Red Line (previously my all time fave), and Interview With The Vampire.  We plan on eating vast quantities of top drawer dark chocolate and 4yr old cheddar whilst enjoying what will add up to about 5 hrs of fairly lush cinema.  The ethereal and haunting (and uncannily like BBM in it's spareness and oriental approach to restraint and subtext/metaphor etc) Thin Red Line - in all it's gory glory, followed by the lush, exceedingly silly but gorgeously homoerotic, Interview With the Vampire. 

That's it from the Lower Blue Mtns.  Hope you all have a great weekend - and you three seeing the boys tomorrow night - think of us.  We'll certainly think of you - me in particular since whilst you're watching people sit around a campfire, playing harmonica badly, we'll actually be doing it.  Which reminds me, that mountain cold might look romantic on screen, but I've a feeling it'll stop well short of romantic in reality  :-\ :D.  Thank gawd we bought those minus five sleeping bags!

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on June 15, 2006, 11:27:35 PM
Griefous - Wolfie misses out again  :'( :'(.  So far the weather is looking ideal for camping so it's off to the fireside for moi tomorrow night. 

Wolfie!  Now, Wolfie!  Think now:  Camping by the firside vs BBM and The Malaya.  Camping by the firside vs BBM and The Malaya.  Think about for, oh, a few pico seconds...

Now, OK, if you're taking your own cowboy, that's another matter...

If you change your mind, just turn up.  1003/23 Shelley St.  Look putside my window and, lo, it's The Malaya!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on June 16, 2006, 06:07:07 AM
Photon, are you really retiring in 15 days?  Aught I congratulate or commiserate?

I should be so lucky. No, we had a restructure here at work and I took redundancy rather than try to cope with the mess that's going to ensue once we've all left. What a shame you won't be able to make it tomorrow! You thought I  looked vaguely familiar, so we must arrange a mountain get-together and try to figure out if we've met - altho I do have a very generic face. I must say I like the idea of a night munching on dark choccy and aged cheddar, two of my fave nibblies, altho it can't compete against the prospect of seeing our boys, Mellor and Madame again. I often see a film I like several times (I re-read books too) but I cannot recall ever experiencing the craving that I do with BBM in between viewings.

Something I meant to mention earlier. You will all, I'm sure, have seen the thread about Jack's death and debated whether it was accident or murder. I've seen BBM 6 times and 4 times I felt ambivalent, but if anything inclined to accept it as accident. And twice I've come out feeling strongly that it was murder, including the latest (Darwin) viewing. I guess this says more about my emotional state at the time than anything else, but I find it curious that my reactions are so sharply opposed. I wonder which way I will lean tomorrow?

BBM-Intern, have a wonderful day tomorrow! I wish I could've flown up and put in my bid for the sheep but Darwin emptied the travel budget for now. I have friends in Brisbane whom I visit every year so I hope to meet you before too long! and I'll do my best to fit in a trip to Melbourne at some point, Campfire. There's always the Comedy festival, altho that's a helluva long wait.

Brian, best wishes for your mum over the weekend! I am beginning to think I may give Candy a miss, altho one of my friends wants to see it. I'm just not into the whole drug thing and it seems like every second Aussie film is about it.

My picture of Jake this week was a screenshot from the post-bear scene where he enters the camp and realises Ennis isn't there. Despite intense scrutiny, I still haven't worked out how the simple addition of a bandanna doubles, nay triples, his already considerable gorgeousness! I've just replaced it with a very hunky Marlon Brando pose in a singlet leaning against a motorcycle. It will keep me warm on these chilly evenings. :-)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 16, 2006, 04:39:08 PM
Given your current circumstances caring for your mum, I realise you're probably not readily available for lunch or similar anytime soon, but I would very much like to pursue same with yourself and Joan.  As I've mentioned, wednesdays are best for me since it means I'm child-free, but can do other days if they suit.
Hope the BBM experience tonight is wonderful for you all.
Wolf I can make myself available on a Wednesday by swapping my day with Mum to Tuesday. I usually go Wed, Fri, Sun. Monday is hiking and Tuesday I have music and literature groups but I will have to miss them this week because I have a day's work for a  friend at Blacktown who is also crazy about BBM. She wants me to work one day in the following week as well but I do not know which at the moment. However during the school holidays hiking/music/literature do not run and I will not have any work but you might be more tied down with the children. Thursday is my best day as we have a carer for Mum that day.
Interesting article in SMH today about the real Candy. Do not let me put you off on Candy. I just found it unrelentingly depressing. At least BBM has it's wonderful scenes where the two are together in the wonderful Mountain scenery.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 17, 2006, 03:33:56 PM
Was thinking about the three of you watching BBM last night and put on Gardening Australia as usual.
Pete said we were going to Queensland to learn about macadamia growing.
 Not very relevant to me so decided to start preparing  dinner when .... those chords... Was I mistaken ....No.... On the screen pictures of the Glasshouse Mtns and Yes our Brokeback theme music playing which continued throughout the segment so I learnt all about macadamia growing and processing as I stood transfixed by those beautiful, haunting chords. The Brokeback gods were smiling on me. :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 17, 2006, 05:26:28 PM
 :)deed they were Brian!

a few minutes to type...

ah gosh 'n golly what can a gal say 'bout last night...well let's begin with the scrumptious company...Brian we missed you...we toasted you...seems we toasted just about everyone ...only small sips..I don't want anyone to think a lot of liquour was consumed...'twas consumed though ;)

Stephen's abode again...yep..elegant as ever...

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm THAT cheese!

we got comfortable...'n the cords..

oops..look at the time gotta go...be back later as they say...

hugs to all..

'n Wolfie we is gunna kidnap you one day...so be prepared!
hugs

back again..now midafternoon..

am finding myself thinking of the mountain ...all those moments that go into a life~ how those two, at 19, were similarish...'n by the time Jack looks at Ennis driving off...so many moments that went into those loves...chosen moments methinks..

oh...last night..goodness where the heck was I!!!

I think the Crash angel of vengence came along for the ride and stepped inside Stephen's dvd player ~ the fact that the screen pixelated towards the end ....well Tiina and I simply had to look after Stephen's blood pressure..that's all ;)

at one stage the screen gave us black 'n white film.sometimes stills..it looked stunning...all in all again..a wondrous night..

delicious food...skewered fish + ...yum..

thank you Annie, Dave, Heath 'n Jake etc, Stephen....oh 'n the darling one who started the G'day thread..

intern man let us know about THE day!!

hugs

Brian special thoughts to you..
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: BBM-Intern on June 18, 2006, 02:36:13 AM
Hello my dear Aussie brokebackers,

The BBM gods must have been smiling on us in Brisbane yesterday (Saturday 17-June), it was forecast to rain, but it didn't.  Bad for the dry conditions and level three water restrictions, but good for the Brisbane Pride March and Fair Day.

The choir sang, and then, TA-DA, we had our Brokeback Mountain  themed raffle. 
Prizes as in http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?action=post;topic=8640.165;num_replies=166#top

We had three different prizes on offer in the raffle, I estimated the prize pool was well over $400 alone, so it was a far cry from some other raffles in my workplace where it's just a measly bottle of wine, probably given from some vendor to begin with.

Of course I got dressed up as Jack F'ing Twist, amused some people I guess.  Had the whole outfit, including that darn Resistol hat that was so troublesome to get shipped over.  Was so hyped up, I didn't even go to the loo or have a bite to eat until nearly sundown, hey I was buzzing until 2am this morning!  I don't drink, but I'm not that young either, so today's theme word is "rest and recovery"...

Thanks to all of you, I was so inspired, I think I outdid myself with the hampers this time.  Little sayings pasted over the cellophane including "If you can’t fix it, Jack… you gotta stand it.", "Uh uh, speak for yourself.  You may be a sinner, but I ain’t yet had the opportunity.", "Point is, we both ought to be in this camp.  And that goddamn pup tent smells like cat piss or worse.".  Had cutouts of Gylly including "Jack Nasty Loves You", which looked great.  Will post a few pictures if I can, all I can say is lucky, lucky winners, I think they'll be so stoked when I call them tomorrow to say they've won.

I think we sold around 500 tickets, the figures aren't in as yet, but I hope the choir makes a tidy profit.  Thanks to our supportive sisters and brothers in the choir, they all pitched in and contributed some great prizes, and were so helpful and enthusiastic at the stall.  I thought some of our sapphic sisters might not be so keen on a film about two men in love, but they were very game and supportive, I was moved by their generous spirits.

A couple of folks asked if I'd "scored" on the day (wink, nudge) wearing "that outfit", but I guess my Ennis didn't turn up...  frankly, I was too busy working, to notice.

And it doesn't end here either, I'm organising a small group of choir friends to see BBM in our home theatre, and the choir will be learning an arrangement of "A Love That Will Never Grow Old".  I tell you, it doesn't get much better than this!!

Any of you dropping by in Brisbane, let me know.  I think the choir members are starting to question my sanity, I need to find another BBM inmate to obsess about the film.  Next project for me is to see if I can make a music video on "ALTWNGO".
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 18, 2006, 04:33:30 AM
dearest intern...I'm a pretty fast reader..but I gotta say I've just broken my record reading that post of yours...

methinks we'll simply have to bottle your gorgeous energy ....and send it all over this planet...we need more interns!

am thrilled it was such a fabulous day..

hugs and congrats!!! :)

we'd like to see the "bbm intern as Jack F'ing Twist" photos...please..plus begging ..
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on June 18, 2006, 07:53:22 AM
....
Campfire, looks like I'll be in Melb mid October.  Likely to be just a friday and sat night, but we may be able to squeeze in a coffee and a viewing  :P.
...

Hi Wolf,

That will be great if we can catch up in Mid October, see how it goes.I am sure we  will keep in touch through Forum to decide on the date/details.. ..

Take care

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on June 18, 2006, 08:29:00 AM
...  Will post a few pictures if I can, all I can say is lucky, lucky winners, I think they'll be so stoked when I call them tomorrow to say they've won.

A couple of folks asked if I'd "scored" on the day (wink, nudge) wearing "that outfit", but I guess my Ennis didn't turn up...  frankly, I was too busy working, to notice.


Congratulations BBM-Intern  on a very well organised and succesfull event..

We definitely like to see the pictures , please , please.. And please include a pic of yourself with the 'Twist'  outfit, we gotta see that.


Well, after a long time, I took the time to watch Brokeback  - my daughters were away at sleepover tonight - in peace and quiet.
Watched and listened millions of times to hear 'Darlin' part - Ennis says during the union hugging . I think I have really  heard it and again I have cried during their last time together .. Once more, I have  acknowledged that the acting is superb quality , it is a theatrical brillance.

Watching BBM after all that knowledge , observations shared on that Forum is a very special experience. We know the reasons of their glances, the way they look, where the camera was.. why they have said a particular word and what actually they've meant with it.

And whilst watching the movie I have thought all of you, Aussie BBM Fans,  Brian, Mellorsj, Photondancer,Madamshawshank,Wolf, BBM-Intern,Ministering Angel ( another Melbournian BBM Fan ) and said cheers with my coffee :)


Wish you all a nice week, full of  soul warming events. :)

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 18, 2006, 12:09:10 PM
campfire...I loved your post..

4.07am..ah, the Socceroos ~ what a game...they gave their all...

I, too, hope for a week of soul-enriching moments for all...

'n special thoughts to Brian..gentle hugs..

every frame of bbm is priceless for me..
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on June 18, 2006, 05:50:21 PM
campfire...I loved your post..

4.07am..ah, the Socceroos ~ what a game...they gave their all...

I, too, hope for a week of soul-enriching moments for all...

'n special thoughts to Brian..gentle hugs..

every frame of bbm is priceless for me..

Thanks Madameshawshank :)

I am sorry for Socceroos, but they have represented Australia strongly against one of the 'all time Biggies' on the world stage and that is a very important point to be proud of.

Monday has started, better be back to work  :-\

Hugs to all.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 18, 2006, 08:00:53 PM
Howdy all!

Camping was great - perfect weather - perfect site for our tent, etc etc.  Crystal clear, cold night.  Sitting around fire watching the sparks fly up into the stars.  Woke to find all white with frost, and kangaroos grazing around tent in the morning sun.  Much as I'd have loved to come to Mr Mellor's, it was just sublime to have our own little recreation of Jack and Ennis' summer on the mountain.  Heck, we even heard (but didn't see) birds of prey!

Mr Mellor, see above.  I did have my harmonica playing cowbloke along, so ultimately no competition  ;).  Sorry to hear you had a technical malfunction - quite mortifying when that happens, what!  Are you really across road from The Malaya?  Gawd help me, if I'd eat there twice a day if I lived that close :P :o.

Brian, I couldn't help smiling when I read your Gardening Oz story.  Those moments really make you wonder don't they!  You needed a little fix and there it was.  Now, you can come to my house and advise me on how to get a better crop from my macadamia trees  :P.  Tried to work out your schedule with your mum and sister but got a bit confused towards the end  :-[.  Does this mean wednesdays aren't so good for you?  I can do thursday if it's preferred, but will mean I have a three yr old with me who, whilst a placid child, would probably prefer I didn't linger too long  :-\.   

Joan, see my pm. 

Photon, I like your 'generic' face - and I'm still thinking I've seen it before!  Bugger about the redundancy - I hope it was somewhat lucrative for you, at the least.  What will you do subsequently, do you think? 

It's odd this BBM craving thing isn't it.  It's almost like an essential nutrient that must be ingested weekly or thereabouts!.   Like you, I'm a repeater of good films and books, but the most I've seen any film at the cinema (prior to BBM) is The Thin Red Line - 3 times.  I've since seen it on vid probably 20 or 30 times, but that's over a period of 7 or 8 yrs, and most of those were incomplete viewings (it's a loooong film, as is Mr Malick's wont).  BBM has me at 8 cinema viewings and 5 home viewings in 5 months  :o.

So, dark choc and old stinky cheddar it is - now I know what to feed you  ;D.  Incidentally, our friday night dvd fest was lovely.  It's such a treat for the soul to share good movies and good food - not to mention the wonderfully enriching and energising 'workshopping' that one does afterwards!   If I lived to be a thousand years old I don't think I'd tire of robust film analysis ;D :P ;D.

Intern (or should I call you Mr Twist?), ditto on the pics request.  Your weekend sounds like it was glorious - share the joy with us here via the good offices of your digital camera!  Incidentally, felt for you when you mentioned a dirth of Brokies up there in Brissy - tres ordinnaire for you m'dear - but you have us  :).  Sooner or later one or all of us will get up there, and together we'll show 'em ;).  don't forget the pics!

Campfire - glad you found a chance to see the boys.  Really felt your appreciation for BBM in your post - made me want to see it again asap.  Was going to wait until the next unBroken visitor requests a viewing, but don't think it'll be possible.  you reminded so well, just how glorious it is. 

Hi to anyone I missed.   Off to hang some washing before clouds roll back.  What a jolly exciting life I lead  :-\ ;D.

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 18, 2006, 11:51:19 PM
Tried to work out your schedule with your mum and sister but got a bit confused towards the end  :-[.  Does this mean wednesdays aren't so good for you?  I can do thursday if it's preferred, but will mean I have a three yr old with me who, whilst a placid child, would probably prefer I didn't linger too long  :-\.   
Sorry to be so complicated . I have now learnt that I will be available Wednesday July 5 if that suits you and Madameshawshanks.  Also made contact with another Brokeback forum member from Hawkesbury. Hopefully she will post here soon. 
Had a lovely day hiking around Wentworth Falls, At morning tea some were discussing the segment on macademia nuts and I nearly said "that had the Brokeback theme in the background' but then thought they would consider me to be nuts  ;D
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 19, 2006, 04:01:42 AM
Dearest Brian 'n Wolfie...July 5 looks fine fine fine by me...so how's about it!

let's pen it in shall we...morning tea at the cafe at  Wentworth Falls...hot chocolate and CAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :)

I always find a treasure or two at the Leura bookshop...the mountains await us methinks..

oh how tired I am after the soccer...'n Denton's interviewing Mr Grant where I'm sure mention will be made of his new film...so to bed after that...

hugs dear Oz Brokebackers...dear dear Brokebackers..
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on June 19, 2006, 07:01:08 AM
Hi All,

Brian suggested that I introduce myself to the other Aussie BBMers on this thread.  I'm a female from the Hawkesbury (near Sydney for those interstaters).  I first saw this movie just after it was released in January, was deeply affected by it and still am.  You can see my reactions to it on the impact thread.

As a horserider, I also fell in love with the mountains the two rode through and am determined to go trekking in the Rockies next trip I make to the States.

Looking forward to meeting some other Brockaholics!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 19, 2006, 07:21:17 AM
ffrn WELCOME ON BOARD!!!

'n a big merci to Brian ~ this is a wondrous forum which continues day by day to grow with such diversity...I doth love it!

I look forward to meeting you one day...any chance you could make July 5? probable Brian, Wolfie, et moi...in the mountains :)

raising my glass to you, ffrn...again welcome and hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on June 19, 2006, 07:30:21 AM
Hi!,

Unfortunately not.  Midweek is no good for me as I have to work.  Weekends (if I have enough notice) are much better.  Maybe next time.

Must get off this forum now and get to bed.  It's nearly midnight and I have to be up at 5.30 am.  I'm having a lesson on my young stallion before work tomorrow.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on June 19, 2006, 02:02:44 PM
Dearest Brian 'n Wolfie...July 5 looks fine fine fine by me...so how's about it!

let's pen it in shall we...morning tea at the cafe at  Wentworth Falls...hot chocolate and CAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :)

I always find a treasure or two at the Leura bookshop...the mountains await us methinks..


I shall enjoy July 4th fireworks (dateline!) in Arizona and think of you all....and poor Ennis forty years ago.

Enjoy yourselves!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 19, 2006, 05:23:28 PM
4th July Ennis erupts
4th Thursday in November Alma erupts...

a volcano will not accept a lid forever...too much hard work keeping it on...

enjoy thy travels Mr S ~ may the days be wondrously clear and devoid of haze ;)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 19, 2006, 09:29:52 PM
ffrn - welcome!  very glad to have you here.  especially glad to know you're more or less in the same neighbourhood as a few of us  :).  especially especially glad to know you're a horsie gal - me too!  We've actually just moved to the Blue Mtn from a horse property down towards Camden (my three beasties are living in idle bliss on a friend's 400 acres at Cobbity).  very impressed by your stallion riding before dawn, by the way!  which brings me to a Brokeback question - do you ride western or European?  I'm a long-term westerner, but own purebred Arabians, of all things  :-\.  Anyhoo, look forward to getting to know you - and hearing more about your Brokeback Fever!

 incidentally just had a bit of fun coming up possibles for your user name but the best I could do was:  Fully Furnished Registered Nurse  :-[ ;D.

Brian and Joan, yay bananas!  wed 5th it is  :).  we can nut out the details closer to the day, but all's clear for take off.

Mr Mellor, are you in a bit of state of shocked excitement to know you'll be There so soon?  I'm still dazzled by the fact you're going to be in The Land Of Jack And Ennis and pow-wowing with so many Brokesters, and I've not even met you!  You absolutely MUST take four bazillion pics, find an internet caff or borrow someone's laptop and post them here as you take them  ;).  Seriously, have a splendiferous time, and bring back some anecdote-worthy memories to share!

Hi to Photon and Campfire and Intern.

I have what I consider, Big News  :).  Yesterday my mother returned from a 2 week holiday at Jervis Bay (Hyam's et al), and bizarrely, brought me the following souvenir - an absolutely identical enamel coffee pot to that used in BBM  ???.  She said she thought we'd need it for our camping trips.  Now don't get me wrong, I couldn't be more chuffed.  In fact I couldn't wipe the smile off my dial for a good hour - and it's still sitting in the middle of my dining table, like a trophy - but it's just such an ODD thing for her to choose.   FTR, she saw BBM way back in January, but has since forgotten just about every detail.  I reminded her of the boys' coffee pot and she said 'oh yes, they did have one the same didn't they .. oh well you'll love it then'.  My obsession is a family joke, clearly  ::).  Meanwhile, think I'll make some coffee in it later - early enought that it'll be nice and gamey by the time hubby gets home and tests the temperature with the back of his hand while griping about the commute  :P.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 19, 2006, 10:37:26 PM
Hi
Trivia
Working in a Catholic school at Blacktown for the day. Tidying shelves and found Brokeback story. Not surprised as my friend who I am replacing also loves Brokeback. Decided to look at the Diocese combined catalogue and found it is in 4 other high schools in the Parramatta Diocese. Yea
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 19, 2006, 11:15:00 PM
they'll be off the shelves if either Cardianl Pell or Bishop Manning find out!!! ;) can't have any of this man loving man or woman loving woman business now can we....except if it's kept strictly under covers as it were...

my kitchen loves bbm soundtrack...I press click..and those cords are played..'n I'm in heaven...

hugs to all..
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on June 20, 2006, 05:27:14 AM
Hi Wolf, thank you for the welcome and it is good to see another horsey person here too!  I came across another thread here the other day where other horse people were discussing their animals and posting photos of them.  Must try and find it again.

I ride English although I only own a stock saddle.  The only time I rode in a western saddle, it was far too big for me and I slipped and slided all over the place in it.  I also dislike split reins and the way Western riders ride with no contact on the bit.  How on earth do you get control of your horse in time if they decide to spook or bolt?

ffrn = fully furnished registered nurse??!!  No, please!!!  My mother was a nurse and I do not wish to be reminded of it :o   It is actually made up of the initials of my dogs. ;D

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: jack on June 20, 2006, 08:35:02 AM
an interjection from the other colonies here..  :D

i believe the other horsey thread you may have found was not dedicated to horses and horsemanship, but to general not on any topic discussion started by a disgruntled poster who bucked at having to stay within a threads given topic or guideline.

some of our other posters who got tired of trying to have aconversation over the din of other chat threads recently reinvigorated it, and as they are ranch and farm folk, got to talking about horses, and since a new camera has been purchased, the horses became photo ops.

i am sure the other posters there would be delighted to hear about and see your horses, or anything else you would like to chat about.  it can be found in the start your own threads section.

jack 
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 20, 2006, 08:58:49 PM
Thanks to Jack for the horsie thread info  :).

Brian, wowzers - very interesting diocesan news  ;) :P.  Wonder if St Columbus is one of those HS's. 

FluffyFidoRoverNeddy (ffrn), another coincidence - my user name pertains to one of our dogs.  it's not her name, but is a very apt description of her physical appearance. 

I know what you mean about western saddles, they do take getting used to!.  the main difficulty for European style riders is that they have such a different riding style - just doesn't 'work' in a flat, open saddle.  Regarding reins - I'm the opposite - I can't use buckled ones - they're just way too short  ;D.  Re bits - I don't actually use 'em  :-[ - only bosals or rope halter.  Sometimes just a neck rope if it's my little grey mare. As for control, I seem to have enough - but mine are neck reiners and highly responsive with it.  Anyhoo, I like the western scene for other reasons too - boys look WAY better in Wranglers and a Stetson than they do in jodhpurs and a velvet cap  ;D :P ;D.

Cheers to all - sorry about the lengthy equine digression!

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 20, 2006, 09:08:22 PM
Joan, hope you got my pm (sent this morning).  System logged me out midway and not sure if logging back in saved it :-\.

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 21, 2006, 02:19:48 AM
 :'( nope Wolfie...no pm...alas!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on June 21, 2006, 03:56:33 AM
Thank you Jack for the directions!  I've found the thread again.  Better take your invitation up, wander over and introduce myself. :D
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on June 21, 2006, 04:43:36 PM
Hi Wolf, thank you for the welcome and it is good to see another horsey person here too!  I came across another thread here the other day where other horse people were discussing their animals and posting photos of them.  Must try and find it again.

I ride English although I only own a stock saddle.  The only time I rode in a western saddle, it was far too big for me and I slipped and slided all over the place in it.  I also dislike split reins and the way Western riders ride with no contact on the bit.  How on earth do you get control of your horse in time if they decide to spook or bolt?

ffrn = fully furnished registered nurse??!!  No, please!!!  My mother was a nurse and I do not wish to be reminded of it :o   It is actually made up of the initials of my dogs. ;D



Hi Ffrn,

Welcome to the forum..

I can see you and Wolf have been talking  about the horse riding experiences..
In my 40+ years life, just rode horse once and enjoyed the experience immensely. I have not had a chance since then, but it is always on my mind to make the time to learn more about riding..So wanted to share that memory with you two expert riders.:)

I am sure you will have a great time here..

Take care
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 21, 2006, 06:11:51 PM
It's just occured to me that equine chatter isn't a digression - after all, our two boys spent the best summer of their lives in the saddle - so to speak!  Perhaps it's quite fitting we share our horsie memories and experiences  :D.

Joansworth, did you get my pm in the end?  ah, I see you've sent me one  ;).

Campfire, most of my riding was done long ago (I'm in the 40+ club too), so I'm far from being an expert these days!  How do you think you'll effect another riding experience?  I often wonder about doing one of those 5 day horse treks in the Snowies.  Perhaps one day all we g'dayers could get together and do just that!  Spend a glorious week in our own Brokeback country - riding horses gently through the glorious high country, sitting around campfires and drinking coffee and/or whiskey together, eating cherry cake  :P.  My sister did one of those treks about 6 years ago and continues to maintain it was one of the best weeks of her life - despite being an exhaustingly well travelled woman. 

Ok, now I'm getting all fidgetty exited at the thought of doing a Snowies horse trek.  I wonder if it's something we could actually pull off!

Have a good day all

W

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on June 22, 2006, 04:55:05 AM
Wolf that's an excellent idea!  A couple of friends and I were making tentative plans to do a Snowy ride earlier this year but it didn't eventuate.  And Campfire, don't let your age put you off riding!  I didn't begin to learn to ride until I was 22 (now also in the 40+ group).  A friend of mine only began riding in her mid 40's once her 11th (yes 11th!) child had started school.  I've bushwalked all though the Snowies and would love to go back there on a ride.  It is certainly much easier for us to get to than the Rockies. Who knows, some Brokie riders from over there may want to join us.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on June 22, 2006, 09:35:18 AM
Wolf that's an excellent idea!  A couple of friends and I were making tentative plans to do a Snowy ride earlier this year but it didn't eventuate.  And Campfire, don't let your age put you off riding!  I didn't begin to learn to ride until I was 22 (now also in the 40+ group).  A friend of mine only began riding in her mid 40's once her 11th (yes 11th!) child had started school.  I've bushwalked all though the Snowies and would love to go back there on a ride.  It is certainly much easier for us to get to than the Rockies. Who knows, some Brokie riders from over there may want to join us.
Thanks Ffrn for encouraging words..
Well done to your friend, what an amazing effort,   to pursue her interest after 11 kids. Thanks for sharing this.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on June 23, 2006, 12:46:24 AM
With a little encouragement from Campfire I thought I'd post a second time on this thread. I'm a Melbourne gramdmother, my kids think I'm mad but what's new, when I'm not besotted with Brokeback Mountain I'm totally absorbed by Ned Kelly. Not such an odd combination. There aren't many days when I don't shed at least a few tears about this story and plenty of days when I howl miserably and enjoy it in that odd painful way. I've sworn off watching the DVD for a while because I cry so  much I really fail to watch the actual film, if you see my point. Trouble is, I miss those boys so much it's as if all my friends have run off and left me. Are we all nuts? Probably. But are we happy about it? You bet!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on June 23, 2006, 01:28:33 PM
G'day-ers,

Thanks for your hospitality on this thread.  It was great to meet some of you here in Sydney.

I have to go now.  Japan tonight, then to Boston.  It's a long way!

I'll be away for four long months, but expect your phone to ring when I get back.  My most reliable number is +1 612 203 1972, but I usually send from a different number. 

MmeShawshank and PhotonDancer: Thanks for your messages.  That was so nice.

And Brian, good luck with your mum.

OK.  Gotta finish packing (but I had to check in to the board first!)

Bye......
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 23, 2006, 03:38:08 PM
Bon Voyage Stephen
Thanks for your good wishes and your hospitality
At least the internet means you are only a click from your Aussie mates
Looking forward to meeting up again at the end of the year.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 25, 2006, 07:44:33 PM
Hello Ministering Angel  :)

Very glad to have you here, and just now thinking I wished I'd seen your previous thread!  Yes we're all quite mad about those boys - but isn't it the greatest fun since we were teenagers  :P :D.  Like you, I'm having trouble leaving the DVD in its cover.  I REALLY miss it sometimes.  It's just about a physical ache  :-\.

Had to laugh at your kids thinking you've lost yr mind.  My kids are a bit young to form that, very possibly quite sensible, opinion on the matter, but my 'almost 6' year old son now has what I call Brokedar, and can name every track from the soundtrack after just a couple of notes  :-\, the hearing of which is of course then duly reported back to hubby, who does this  ::) ::) ::). 

ffrn, hey whadaya know, we're all 40+  :) ;) :).  and wowzers to your friend - whilst I'm always impressed by people taking up new and physically demanding hobbies once past the first flush of rosy youth, I'm SUPER DUPER impressed by women who have lots of kids!

Mr Mellor, goodbye m'dear!  have a wondrous time and don't forget to write!  we'll miss you here  :'(.

Brian and Joan - so wednesday it is!  best time for me is 10am at Wenty Falls - I could go directly from the school run down here at G'brook.  Does that suit you two?  Might also be useful for me to know where it is we're to meet up  :-[ ;D.  Is the cafe in question in amongst the main shops in the village?  Guess I can' t exactly get lost eh!  Incidentally, I'll be in 'uniform'  ;).

Cheers all - happy day

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on June 25, 2006, 09:58:14 PM
G'day G'dayers!

Made it to Boston after nearly 48hrs (with a night in Tokyo).  Too tired to move

Will report later...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 25, 2006, 10:27:23 PM
G'day G'dayers!

Made it to Boston after nearly 48hrs (with a night in Tokyo).  Too tired to move

Will report later...

oh wow, Stephen, you're There  :) :) :).  have a lovely kip and speak soon. 
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 26, 2006, 02:25:53 AM
Brian and Joan - so wednesday it is!  best time for me is 10am at Wenty Falls -
Hi Wolf
Hope you mean Wednesday week July 5.  Cannot make it this week
10 am fine.  Either the Post Office Cafe or the German Conditorei is ok with me
Brian
 
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on June 26, 2006, 05:39:43 AM
Hi All,

Brian suggested that I introduce myself to the other Aussie BBMers on this thread.  I'm a female from the Hawkesbury (near Sydney for those interstaters).  I first saw this movie just after it was released in January, was deeply affected by it and still am.  You can see my reactions to it on the impact thread.

As a horserider, I also fell in love with the mountains the two rode through and am determined to go trekking in the Rockies next trip I make to the States.

Looking forward to meeting some other Brockaholics!

Hi ffn, I am mainly on the slash thread but try and read here when I have a free moment...I adore horses as well, used to breed Arabians when I was younger.  :)
Trekking in the Rockies sounds amazing.
I leave for the states in only 6 weeks...spend 2 weeks in LA, NY and San Fran...meeting only fellow BBM lovers - friends from this forum and lovers of BBM slash which I am so excited about.
Nice to meet you and everyone here...*waves to madameshawshank who gave me a beautiful recipe and muffin cases*
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on June 26, 2006, 05:43:28 AM
Hi Ministering Angel...I know totally how you feel...this addiction for BBM has lasted well over 6 months now and no chance of quitting soon...there aint no reins on this one...all my free and work hours its hard not to think of BBM, spend it writing about Jack and Ennis...*laughs*

Lovely to find like minded Aussies!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 26, 2006, 08:15:20 PM
Hope you mean Wednesday week July 5.  Cannot make it this week
10 am fine.  Either the Post Office Cafe or the German Conditorei is ok with me
Brian
 

oh dear, Brian, you're quite right, I was mixing up my dates! next week it is.  where are the two cafe's in question, incidentally?  are they also in WFs?

Lolita, hello to a fellow former Arabian person, as it were!  Are you meeting up with Stephen while you're away? How exciting to think two of our number are going to meet so many of the wonderful Brokies from this forum  :).  Where might one find your slash, incidentally?  I normally stay away from fanfic and slash (way too much slash during my most fervent Star Trek days), but think I can make an exception for our boys  :P ;).  Are you on the east coast of Oz, or over in the west?  Most of us are east coast - in fact I think we all are!

well I took my "I wish I knew how to quit you" bag out for a turn about Penrith Plaza this morning and got another 'connection' for my efforts.  this time a man - about 50ish, and travelling alone.  well dressed fellow, and ruggedly good looking in a slightly Bruce Willis bald sort of way.  he did the double take, then the stare at me, then back at the bag, etc etc.  always the same reaction it seems  ;D. 

cheers all

w
Title: Re: G'day! - MTV Movie Awards at 1100 today on Foxtel
Post by: BBM-Intern on June 27, 2006, 04:54:55 PM
Hi there everyone,

Haha Wolfie, guess you're picking up even better than our hapless Jack Twist, I must get one of them bags myself!!  Actually, I'm wearing one of those sherpa-style jackets; couldn't get that green plaid, so had to settle for a beigy suede outside (like Ennis), with sherpa collar (like Jack), well a bit of both, I can be "versatile".  Gee, folks approach me sometimes to have a feel of the material, saying it feels so nice and warm!  But no Randall Malone has arrived yet...

What I wanted to say was BBM alert - the MTV Movie Awards 2006 is being shown today on the MTV Channel on Foxtel, I assume it's the same on other cable channels.  I wanna see Jakey-poo get his award for "Best Kiss".  The programme has probably been screened before, but while flicking through the guide I noticed it last night.  If you're interested in seeing it please PM me, we can see what can be done about it.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on June 28, 2006, 04:10:35 PM
Hey Wolf! I'm not quite sure who Stephen is? Truly, with all my post count, about 2000 were made in the slash thread! i am meeting up with about 15 fellow BBM Slash writers and readers in LA/NY and SF...

I'm in Queensland, on the Gold Coast.  :)
If your interested...there are lots of fic a LOT better then me out there...either click on my profile for the link to my lj - The Moment Between is my Jack/Ennis...
And if you want some really good recs for BBM just pm me.  :)

So you love Arabs as well? Just the best, arent they.  :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 28, 2006, 07:02:54 PM
Darlin' Wolfie 'n Brian...methinks the Conditorei..at 10 on July 5...yep sounds beyond perfect to me..

have the mountain movie in ma bag...staying with my daughter in law's family...asked one of her sisters if she'd seen it....no...'n a look of "Why on earth would I?"...ok, so that's that methought...

still, I'll have a chat with her mum about life and see how we go...maybe time...maybe her mum will watch it...

over and over and over again it reminds me of how easily we are programmed....to BE....and so rarely do we question WHY we are as we are....so rarely to we give thought to that oh so important question....

this sweet soul who, up to now, hasn't seen the film is quite unaware of the fact there are six and a half billion sexualities...there is hers, mine, and so on...none the same at all...even though it suits our society/culture/churches etc to bunch us into neat packages of "1 acceptable sexuality, others can go to Hell" ~ in the words of a wondrous Patty Larkin song "I beg to differ with you"....by "you" I mean society/culture/churches etc ;)

those who know me would simply be saying "So what's new with that!"  ~ a rebel since birth...

hope to check out Picasso at the NGV on Friday...opening day....might be millions....might be not....'n hey...forgot to tell the news...am meeting ministering angel on Sat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

at Flinders St Station...hope it's a fine day...

we chatted last night...by golly she's a sweet one....that instant click thing I experienced with Photodancer, Brian, 'n Stephen...that subconscious knowing....ah, YES!

campfire, any chance you're in the Melb area on Sat? 'twould be wonderful if you could join us :)

m angel, I wasn't sure I'd be near a computer today...as ya see, I am

hugs to all G'dayers ...here there and everywhere....Stephen have a wondrous time...and Lolita...you too!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 28, 2006, 08:14:39 PM
Greetings G'dayers,

Joan, have a great time down south!  Say howdy to MA and CF for all of us  :).  Sorry to hear you've not had any takers for a viewing.  The "why would I?" response is such a funny one ain't it.  My hubby invoked it at the first request, but relented without protest - in fact offered to watch with me - after a few days of my ceasation of badgering :-[ ;D. 

See you next week - I'll be the one eating the chocolatiest chocolate cake on the menu  :P ;).

Intern, would be freaky to think a BBM bag could pick up for me - but two things stand in the way of that possibility.  1) I'm married, and 2) the Bruce Willis dude was almost certainly not partial to boobies.  Perhaps the bag would work more effectively for you  ;) :P 8) ;).  Yay about your jacket!  I adore Jack's 'wardrobe', and wish I could somehow pull off the look despite my utterly un-Jack-like-ness  :-\.  My absolute favourite of all his ensembles is the one he wears when returning to Aguirre's trailer the following summer to 'ask about work' (aka, find Ennis).  He's wearing a couple of quite bulky jackets, so looks nice and broad through the shoulders and super slim through the hips.  His hair looks great, his eyes are drown-in-able, and he generally looks good enough to eat on toast ........ oy vay ...... now I'm getting al flustered  :-\

Lolita, yes, Arabians are raving beauties as horseflesh goes!  Really ridiculous creatures in so many ways - impossible temperaments etc, but oh so lovely to behold.  What make are/were yours?  Mine are Egyptians, for the most part.  Stephen is SJMellor - he who has recently departed Sydney for the US to meet up with a vasty number of forum members - yee haa!  Thanks for the slash info, will check it out.  Is it nice and saucy?  I don't like it too tame  :P ;D.  Mind you, I dunno if my ticker could stand any additional heat between Ennis and Jack.  I get palpitations as it is just thinking about FNIT  :-[.  Did you know our BBMIntern is in Brisbane, BTW?  If you see someone walking around all dressed up as Jack Twist, that'll be him   :).

I have Happy News.  On my regular thursday morning visit to Blockbuster to return DVD's, the woman who recently told me about her father's Brokeback experience, gave me, unbidden, a pristine poster announcing the July 20 release.  Joy to the world!  Incidentally, their monthly in-house magazine has BBM on the cover, and the lead article is a Heath interview about the movie.  Very interesting two page spread! 

Cheers all
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on June 29, 2006, 07:24:05 AM
Hi lolita, thank you for the welcome!  There seems to be a few of us horsey types here.  I have a couple of Arabians too as well as the Miniatures and Andalusians.  Hope you enjoy your trip to the States!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 29, 2006, 06:03:35 PM
Hi Madamshawshank & Wolf
Unfortunately I have my doubts  about being able to meet you on Wednesday. My sister called me yesterday to come down and stay overnight and I have had a very broken sleep looking after Mum. The doctor has come this morning and told us it is probably a matter of days not weeks before Mum goes. It is a very day to day thing so I will let you know.
Brian
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on June 29, 2006, 06:32:36 PM
Darlin' Wolfie 'n Brian...methinks the Conditorei..at 10 on July 5...yep sounds beyond perfect to me..

have the mountain movie in ma bag...staying with my daughter in law's family...asked one of her sisters if she'd seen it....no...'n a look of "Why on earth would I?"...ok, so that's that methought...

still, I'll have a chat with her mum about life and see how we go...maybe time...maybe her mum will watch it...

over and over and over again it reminds me of how easily we are programmed....to BE....and so rarely do we question WHY we are as we are....so rarely to we give thought to that oh so important question....

this sweet soul who, up to now, hasn't seen the film is quite unaware of the fact there are six and a half billion sexualities...there is hers, mine, and so on...none the same at all...even though it suits our society/culture/churches etc to bunch us into neat packages of "1 acceptable sexuality, others can go to Hell" ~ in the words of a wondrous Patty Larkin song "I beg to differ with you"....by "you" I mean society/culture/churches etc ;)

those who know me would simply be saying "So what's new with that!"  ~ a rebel since birth...

hope to check out Picasso at the NGV on Friday...opening day....might be millions....might be not....'n hey...forgot to tell the news...am meeting ministering angel on Sat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

at Flinders St Station...hope it's a fine day...

we chatted last night...by golly she's a sweet one....that instant click thing I experienced with Photodancer, Brian, 'n Stephen...that subconscious knowing....ah, YES!

campfire, any chance you're in the Melb area on Sat? 'twould be wonderful if you could join us :)

m angel, I wasn't sure I'd be near a computer today...as ya see, I am

hugs to all G'dayers ...here there and everywhere....Stephen have a wondrous time...and Lolita...you too!


Hi Madameshawshank,

Thanks very much for letting me know.. Unfortunately  I will be busy around 2  pm on Saturday .. So upset that I cant make it..
I  would have made it  easily on Monday - meeting with you both at  Flinders Station , I mean. I work close to  CBD area.
But I guess you will  not be in Melbourne on Monday and I am not sure how it would suit M. Angel.

Always the timing..

Never enough time, never !  :'(



Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 29, 2006, 07:42:00 PM
Hi Madamshawshank & Wolf
Unfortunately I have my doubts  about being able to meet you on Wednesday. My sister called me yesterday to come down and stay overnight and I have had a very broken sleep looking after Mum. The doctor has come this morning and told us it is probably a matter of days not weeks before Mum goes. It is a very day to day thing so I will let you know.
Brian

Brian, our thoughts are with you and your dear mum.  Come back when you're ready, and look after yourself in the meantime.

Again, thinking of you, sending warm hugs and hoping these coming days pass peacefully.

W
Title: Darlin' Brian...
Post by: madameshawshank on June 30, 2006, 04:23:51 AM
Brian Sweetness ~ from the windy city of Melbourne...this Friday night...I know the moon is a delicate crescent at the moment.  Do know that you and your sister and your mother are deep in my thoughts ~ my heart sends love and the gentlest hugs I can ever imagine.

a few days back I read a quote ..don't know who....that "the morning is awash with angels"....may said angels sit alongside you precious three..

there are other Wednesdays on the horizon...take care

with warmth
Joan
Title: Re: Darlin' Brian...
Post by: MellorSJ on June 30, 2006, 04:10:25 PM
Brian Sweetness ~ from the windy city of Melbourne...this Friday night...I know the moon is a

...


Brian,

I'm sorry to hear about your mum.  Enjoy your time with her while you can.

I'm presently in Sunny Tucson, my official home.  It's about 37C and we're getting ready for July 4th.

G'day to everyone.  Have a fine weekend!

-- stephen
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 30, 2006, 05:38:28 PM
Thanks very much for all the support from my new friends on this forum.
The priest was going to come next Tuesday and give Mum comunion but we rang him and he came yesterday morning. It was very emotional for me but Mum appreciated it. After a bad night on Thursday Mum slept right through last night - probably the morphine. We have arranged for a nurse to come and stay tonight so I will go home this afternoon and return tomorrow. It depends on which nights the nurse comes and  of course Mum's condition as to whether I will be available Wednesday. Naturally my sister does not like to be left alone. When Mum is asleep I do not want to see her go but when (as in the middle of my typing this) we have to move her and she is groaning and gasping for air then I want her suffering to be over. Having a mother for over 60 years is a blessing but can also be a dreadful wrench when she goes. I have been in daily contact with her since my father died 32 years ago.
Once again thanks for all your thoughts
Brian
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: sue_k7751 on June 30, 2006, 08:44:50 PM
Hello all you Aussies out there.....I just joined this board yesterday, after being on the Yahoo board since march, and it is so good to finally meet up with some Aussies...

There were none on the Yahoo board, but i have become friends with some wonderful people from america, who all have the 'fever'...Oh how good it is, to find this forum...I have been trying to read thru some of the old threads to get aquainted with some of you, but I havent got thru them all, so please forgive me if I am not up to date with what you are all doing.

Guess the first one who got my attention was BrianR....for a couple of reasons, one, that you live in the Blue Mountains, which is my old stamping ground...We were mountain people for 14years, firstly at Mt.Riverview and then at Warrimoo...we moved away in 1998 to Mudgee for 4 years, and now live in Queensland...a hell of a lot warmer.

The other reason I was drawn to you Brian, was your age, not only because it is only a few years older than me, but the closeness of it to what age the boys would be now...You see, my dad was homosexual (gay), back in the 50's and 60's....my story, briefly, is that he separated from my mother when i was seven, to live in a relationship with his male partner...My sister and myself, lived between the two homes, and we looked on dads partner as like a big brother because he was only 10 years older than me anyway, so is, like you in his 60's now.

Anyway, I wont get into the whole story of that now, I will tell you some other time, but I just wanted to get in touch with you, and any other aussies that are brokeback addicts like me...

I have envied how some of the yanks have been able to meet up in person, and i am planning a trip to the states next year so i can do that too, but now, that i have the opportunity to maybe one day meet up with some Aussies, I am really overwhelmed by the thought of it...I still visit the Blue Mountains at least twice a year to visit friends, so I hope the opportunity to maybe meet up will one day be a possiblility.

Also any other aussies on here that are in Queensland, I live in Maryborough, near Hervey Bay, so if theres anyone out there, give me a yell...please.....

I gather from these last posts, that Brian's mum is not well, so my thoughts go out to you on that Brian.....I can see the wonderful posts that people are sending you, from here, and im sure it must make things a little easier, knowing you have so many people thinking and praying for you and your mum.

It never ceases to amaze me, that a single movie, could make so many nice people gravitate towards one another, and not to only share their thoughts and emotions over the movie, but to share in other's day to day happiness and sadness, and troubles and joy....It is a wonderful community, no matter which message board we are on.

Hope to hear from some of you soon.....you never know, our paths may have crossed before.....
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on June 30, 2006, 10:44:51 PM
Nice to meet you Sue...welcome to the forum, its an amazing place, thats for sure.  :)
I'm in Queensland, on the Gold Coast...

I know there are a lot of other BBM forums out there but this one is all I have time for, its so HUGE!

*waves hello*
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: jack on July 01, 2006, 01:29:20 AM
and rest assured, sue and all of you, any of you who make it to the states will have no shortage of hospitality.  we may attract a wanker or two, but by and large this is a sweet crew, nearly 5000 of us and still growing.

jack in the US
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 01, 2006, 02:13:11 AM
Hello all you Aussies out there.....I just joined this board yesterday, after being on the Yahoo board since march, and it is so good to finally meet up with some Aussies...

Guess the first one who got my attention was BrianR....for a couple of reasons, one, that you live in the Blue Mountains, which is my old stamping ground...We were mountain people for 14years, firstly at Mt.Riverview and then at Warrimoo...we moved away in 1998 to Mudgee for 4 years, and now live in Queensland...a hell of a lot warmer.

The other reason I was drawn to you Brian, was your age, not only because it is only a few years older than me, but the closeness of it to what age the boys would be now...You see, my dad was homosexual (gay), back in the 50's and 60's....my story, briefly, is that he separated from my mother when i was seven, to live in a relationship with his male partner...My sister and myself, lived between the two homes, and we looked on dads partner as like a big brother because he was only 10 years older than me anyway, so is, like you in his 60's now.
Also any other aussies on here that are in Queensland, I live in Maryborough, near Hervey Bay, so if theres anyone out there, give me a yell...please.....

I gather from these last posts, that Brian's mum is not well, so my thoughts go out to you on that Brian.....I can see the wonderful posts that people are sending you, from here, and im sure it must make things a little easier, knowing you have so many people thinking and praying for you and your mum.
Hope to hear from some of you soon.....you never know, our paths may have crossed before.....
Welcome Sue and thanks for your thoughts. I moved to the Mountains in 1982 so our paths may have crossed. Yes I believe I am exactly the same age as our boys- one reason it has touched me so as well as the fact that I got engaged to a lovely girl in 1970 when the psychiatrists led me to believe I was "cured' .  Fortunately I realised the mistake before the wedding but in those days just breaking an engagement was traumatic enough.  I am glad you remained close to your father just like Alma Jr.
My cousins live in Qld and one is at Hervey Bay. I have plans of visiting them sometime.
As you can see my mind is in a bit of a turmoil at the moment. My sister rang a woman priest today who is not allowed to be a priest in Sydney >:( but was an assistant at Mum's last parish before she became too sick to attend regularly.  She was around within an hour or two and anointed Mum and prayed over her. Mum has always asked that she officiate at her funeral  service and her smile at the prayer was just so lovely.  Also we had a weekend community nurse come and he turned out to be Mum's regular of a few months ago (they change them around every few months) Mum was sitting up when he came as her bed had just been fitted with a special cover to prevent bed sores and he insisted on helping us put her back to bed because he said "She was most favourite patient and I want to do something for her"  So today has been another emotional time for me.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on July 01, 2006, 02:45:02 AM
It sounds like you are going through one of the toughest times ever, Brian. I used to be a registered nurse before I got into Naturopathy.
I am so glad that your mother seems to be finding a bit of peace through prayer.
Are they using the eggshell foam mattress on the bed? Cutting a pair of sheepskin uggboots so they can be used as heel protectors are amazingly comfortable also.
Thinking of you.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 01, 2006, 04:36:04 AM
It sounds like you are going through one of the toughest times ever, Brian. I used to be a registered nurse before I got into Naturopathy.
I am so glad that your mother seems to be finding a bit of peace through prayer.
Are they using the eggshell foam mattress on the bed? Cutting a pair of sheepskin uggboots so they can be used as heel protectors are amazingly comfortable also.
Thinking of you.
Thanks  Lolita. The mattress is electric and goes through a  wave every so often. It costs $60 per week and when they sent the electric hospital bed which is free for 3 months, the govt would not pay for this mattress. At the time, Mum was only in the bed at night so we sent it back which was a big mistake as just on  a week later she is in bed full time.  The Govt is paying for the nurse tonight but if necessary we will pay for the nurse a few nights per week. This is as much for my sister as for Mum. My sister is 72. Finding Government assistance is a big maze and we are learning with some wonderful help from nurses and carers.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 01, 2006, 09:23:46 AM
Sue Darlin'n welcome on board the good ship G'day...a fine and jolly bunch!

Brian...thoughts with you ...and the gentle hugs continue...

....some meeting news...keep in mind it's 1.17am...I've been on the go for the past 18 hours...oh my!

met Ministering Angel at Flinders St Station....I just KNEW it was her..we both broke into the widest smiles...hugs...I'd managed to find a bbm poster from a video store...plus the beloved cherry-bedecked muffin pans..

I thought we could play ladies and do French cakes etc at Laurnet...or tram to St Kilda where I thought there was a yummy Spanish restaurant....am having to retype...almost asleep at the keyboard... :o

we talked for ages...loads and loads of laughs...almost tears...hugs...

this forum is priceless....

here's to more and more of us meeting...

Sue, doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo let us know when you come down south..

'n campfire...next time for sure...I'll be Melbing in mid August...would love to meet up..

glass raised to Annie..'n all
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on July 01, 2006, 09:32:06 AM
Go to bed, Mme!

A hot day here in Tucson, about 30C, I'd say, and it's only 0835!

Just wait till later..

Hope all is well back in the winter, and especially for you Brian.  Hang in there...

Oh well.... I'd better get back to doing my taxes (due last April 15th)

PS.  I managed to wash my phone when some bloke at a reception in Boston spilled wine all over me and I had to change.  Dunk my pants in water to get all the wine off.  Now where's the phone?

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

So the 858 # is inoperable just now.  Try +1 612 203 1672
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on July 01, 2006, 05:34:51 PM
Sue Darlin'n welcome on board the good ship G'day...a fine and jolly bunch!

Brian...thoughts with you ...and the gentle hugs continue...

....some meeting news...keep in mind it's 1.17am...I've been on the go for the past 18 hours...oh my!

met Ministering Angel at Flinders St Station....I just KNEW it was her..we both broke into the widest smiles...hugs...I'd managed to find a bbm poster from a video store...plus the beloved cherry-bedecked muffin pans..

I thought we could play ladies and do French cakes etc at Laurnet...or tram to St Kilda where I thought there was a yummy Spanish restaurant....am having to retype...almost asleep at the keyboard... :o

we talked for ages...loads and loads of laughs...almost tears...hugs...

this forum is priceless....

here's to more and more of us meeting...

Sue, doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo let us know when you come down south..

'n campfire...next time for sure...I'll be Melbing in mid August...would love to meet up..

glass raised to Annie..'n all

Hi Madameshawshank and M. Angel,

I am glad that you have had a great time together..  Dear Madame if you happen to find out a missed call on your mobile phone with the date 1/July and around 2:45 pm , it was me..  I have thought maybe  I can say Hi to both of you because it was after 2 pm , but I was not that lucky. But believe me I was thinking of both of  you and smiling , knowing that some more BBM fans have been  able to meet in person.

I work on St Kilda rd, in case you'll still l be in Melbourne next week or M. Angel if you would have time to be  in  the city , I will be there..
And August I will do my best to be meet you both , definitely.

Love and Hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on July 01, 2006, 05:39:46 PM
Thanks very much for all the support from my new friends on this forum.
The priest was going to come next Tuesday and give Mum comunion but we rang him and he came yesterday morning. It was very emotional for me but Mum appreciated it. After a bad night on Thursday Mum slept right through last night - probably the morphine. We have arranged for a nurse to come and stay tonight so I will go home this afternoon and return tomorrow. It depends on which nights the nurse comes and  of course Mum's condition as to whether I will be available Wednesday. Naturally my sister does not like to be left alone. When Mum is asleep I do not want to see her go but when (as in the middle of my typing this) we have to move her and she is groaning and gasping for air then I want her suffering to be over. Having a mother for over 60 years is a blessing but can also be a dreadful wrench when she goes. I have been in daily contact with her since my father died 32 years ago.
Once again thanks for all your thoughts
Brian

Dear Brian,

My thoughts are with you..

Hope all will be going smoothly for you and your family..

Love and Hugs

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: sue_k7751 on July 01, 2006, 10:56:25 PM
Thank you all for the welcomes to the board, I really appreciate it....and especially to you Brian, to take the time, because I can see you are very busy taking care of your Mum, and once again I wish you well, and I wish comfort and peace for your mum.

I will wait for some other more appropriate time to get into some discussions with you, I am sure we will find a fair bit in common to talk about.

Thank you to the others that gave me a welcome to, and to hear of the melbourne meet up, sounds like great fun.Its been a long time since i got down there to the windy city, but I did spend my first 3 months of marriage down there, as my hubby was in the navy and his ship was at Williamstown...but that was a long time ago.

I see another queeslander there too, great to meet you, we visit the gold coast a few times a year.

Glad to find out at least that I am not the only Aussie that Brokeback got good....I have been with the Yahoo board since march, and no other Aussies were on that, I was starting to feel like I was alone over here....knew one day, i would find you all though...

Hope to hear from you all again....I havent posted too much to any forums yet...I just joined Bettermost as well, and have been busy there, but you will soon see, I love posting and getting into the conversations that go on here....See you all later
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: jack on July 02, 2006, 04:16:49 AM
PS.  I managed to wash my phone when some bloke at a reception in Boston spilled wine all over me and I had to change.  Dunk my pants in water to get all the wine off.  Now where's the phone?
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!
So the 858 # is inoperable just now.  Try +1 612 203 1672
cell phones really do hate water, and the fancier they are the more they hate it.

and did you know they were fair examples of osmotic absorbtion?  lay a phone down near moisture and the damp will be sucked to the exact spot it will do the most damage.

jack
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 02, 2006, 05:43:36 AM
don't forget Mr Stephen you're representing the G'day thread...so do misbehave as often as thou wants ;)

ain't it a truly amazing story...from Annie's imagination...the power of thought...the energy of thought!

'n to think I'm meeting the ever darling Wolfie on Wed...perhaps Brian...

in my thoughts Brian, hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: sue_k7751 on July 02, 2006, 06:49:35 AM
Wolf....I was just reading some back posts on here, and saw the bit about your "I wish i knew how to quit you" bag.....can you tell me where you got it from.... would love to get one too, if only to see if i get any remarks or looks at it......I love stirring, and making a statement, so this would be a nice way to do it....

Reading your posts, I have noticed that you are from Glenbrook...and as i wrote to Brian the other day, that is my old stamping ground....I lived at Mt Riv, and Warrimoo, from 1980 until 1998, my kids went to Blaxland High....I still have some good friends in the mountains, who i visit every couple of months....I now live in Queensland, near Hervey Bay.

How lucky you are to be meeting up with fellow G'dayers, im sure you will have plenty to talk about and enjoy the meeting....i hope you share with us, how it all goes.

I have this picture of you walking thru Penrith Plaza, with your bag, watching out for any unusual looks, and knowing, that only those who have seen the movie and remember those lines, would know what it means, and you no doubt would feel some connection with anyone who does that.

Not sure if many people from here saw the movie as much as I did, I havent met any local, that feels the same way as I do, but maybe, carrying a bag like that, might make someone else with the addiction, make contact with me....would be interesting to see....

Look forward to hearing where you got the bag....and I hope its not too cold down there for all your mountain people.....
Title: Re: G'day! Annie Proulx documentary - "That Old Ace in the Hole"
Post by: BBM-Intern on July 02, 2006, 07:41:52 AM
Hi all you lovely people, a big G'day to you,

A bit off topic, but it was one of the books suggested on the Book Club thread, on Foxtel the Lifestyle Channel is showing a documentary (?) of Annie Proulx's writing of "That Old Ace in the Hole".  I think it's quite an old book of hers, but in the few minutes I watched it, it was fascinating to see the amount of research that went into writing the story.  Am taping it later this morning to watch at leisure tomorrow.

BrianR, am thinking of you and praying for you at this difficult time.  And a big hello to everyone on the board!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on July 02, 2006, 08:49:19 PM
Cheers all,

Not much time today as have two sick kids at home  :-\. 

Thoughts to Brian and his mum.  A slightly envious HOWDY to Mr Mellor in sunny Tucson.  Hugs to Mme - hope yr catching up on some sleep - you party gal you. 

Sue, welcome!  Correct me if I'm wrong, but it almost seems our majority are either Blue Mtns or QLD.  Interesting!  See yr currently in Maryborough - lovely town.  Recently voted happiest place in Oz, and that doesn't surprise me in the least.  Dunno how many times you've seen BBM, but I've clocked up 8 cinema viewings and 7 DVD viewings.  I'm a greenhorn compared to some tho!  re: the magical bag - I got it online from an outfit in Melbourne.  I actually only ordered the t-shirt, but since they were a bit late in expediting it, they threw in the bag as a sweetener  :).  website is www.t-shirt-flirt.com.  It is indeed, much fun wearing the 'colours' just to see who responds.  makes me feel like a rebellious teenager all over again  :P ;D.  again, welcome - and look forward to hearing more from you!

Intern, your fellow queenslanders are arriving here in droves - did you do a letterbox drop or something?  ;) ;D.

re: wednesday- well my dear Brian and Joan, it's looking tres ordinnaire for me for our cafe fellowship at Wenty Falls  :'(.  Both kids appear to be well on the way to having flu or similar - sore throats and fever  :-\.  can't see myself being anything but up to my armpits in panadol and tissues come wednesday.  probably safest to assume I won't be there.  Given Brian might have difficulty making it too, I'm wondering if we'd be best just postponing?  Week after next would be ideal for me - wed 19/7.  Will await your thoughts.  meantime, my sincere apologies for letting the side down.  was getting so nicely excited about it too - phooey!

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on July 03, 2006, 12:36:16 AM
Hello G'Dayers
What a fabulous Sat arvo we, Mme S. and I, had. Two Lashawns together (except we talked perfect sense!) Campfire, definately meet up August. And if I get to the city I'll definately call you first.
I love youse all!!
MA
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 03, 2006, 01:14:04 AM
re: Wednesday- well my dear Brian and Joan, it's looking tres ordinnaire for me for our cafe fellowship at Wenty Falls  :'(.  Both kids appear to be well on the way to having flu or similar - sore throats and fever  :-\.  can't see myself being anything but up to my armpits in panadol and tissues come wednesday.  probably safest to assume I won't be there.  Given Brian might have difficulty making it too, I'm wondering if we'd be best just postponing?  Week after next would be ideal for me - wed 19/7.  Will await your thoughts.  meantime, my sincere apologies for letting the side down.  was getting so nicely excited about it too - phooey!
Sorry about the kids but a slight relief for me. No likelihood I can make it. I have to wait for my brother-in-law to come home tomorrow afternoon before I can make a lightning dash to the Mountains to do some necessities. Was awake with Mum from 2am this morning and not likely to be any different tonight. My sister or I must be with her at all times. Palliative care doctor coming tomorrow hopefully he can assist more. Again thanks for you thoughts.
Brian
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 03, 2006, 04:50:49 PM
gentle hugs to all....

am sure when the Wednesday comes it will be a wondrous Wednesday for us...

my heart goes to the carers...

again, hugs

Mme
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: sue_k7751 on July 03, 2006, 07:46:08 PM
Hi Wolf, sounds like your kids have got the dreaded flu that is going around....I was in sydney and blue mtns, in may and came home with it, and it has taken four weeks and two lots of anti-biotics to just feel 80% well..... hope it doesnt affect your kids that bad....I hate seeing kids sick.....

Yeah looks like Blue Mtns has quite a following of BBM....Im not surprised, as there are some really nice peope up there......I saw it 4 times at theatre, and lucky to get a pirate dvd, so have watched it about 7 times on that....

I have dowloaded quite a few video clips with songs from you tube, so they give me a quick fix, when i need it....some of them are fabulous...my favourite one i got from the yahoo board thru you tube is "When you tell me that you love me"..it was done by a yahoo board member, and is absoulutely fabulous.....

By the way, how long have you lived in the mountains..you are obviously younger than me, with school age kids, and I assume you live at Glenbrook....I still visit friends there at Glenbrook, Lapstone and Blaxland.....was there in May.....next trip planned for down there is November...I stay at my friends place at Grose Vale when i come down, and have the use of a car....so i usually spend a day in mtns, visiting everyone....and in may i was lucky enough to go to Penrith Stadium to watch my beloved (but not playing too good) Panthers play.

When we moved from the mountains we moved to Mudgee for 4 years, and now we are here in Queensland, my husband's home town.

I used to often go to the little cinema in Glenbrook....did they show BBM...?...did you get any funny responses to the movie from people there...

Very nice to meet you here, and I hope we have some more chats here..
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on July 04, 2006, 11:24:39 PM
Something to look forward to if people are ever travelling by train in Melbourne. As I returned from the fabulous aternoon with Mme S, I found myself on a train which, when it pulled out of every station (a lot on my line) made a long drawn-out sound exactly the same as the opening note of Brokeback Mountain #3, the music which plays over the dozy embrace. Reminded of that wonderful film all the way home! Not that I needed reminding.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on July 05, 2006, 07:53:05 PM
Howdy Pardners,

More or less back on deck here.  Just snotty noses and cabin fever, for our sins. 

Sue, we moved to G'brook from down towards Camden about 18 mths ago.  We were on acreage and found we were spending every minute of our spare time mending fences and slashing paddocks.  With two small kids it just wasn't a good look, so we decided to downsize.  I did see BBM at G'brook cinema - twice in two days  :P.  Brian and MmeS saw it there also.  Didn't catch any 'odd' reactions to the film, but did have a short but intense dialogue with a young gay bloke and an elderly woman after one of my viewings.  They were dumbstruck, poor loves  :-\.  Look forward to meeting you sometime soon, and FTR, don't let the 3yr old in my possession fool ya, I'm about to turn 43.  Late breeder  :P. 

Brian, thinking of you and your dear mum. 

Hi to everyone else - sorry not more personal post today, but a bit distracted by a technically minor, but personally huge event in the life of one of Wolf's loved ones.  An event most relevent to this forum, as it happens! 

I dunno how many of you aware of the fact (oft lamented via my posts) that my much loved, adored, respected and very close sister had what could politely be called a lukewarm response to BBM.   To be specific, she loved the art of it, and acknowledged that it was a sublimely crafted work, moving, a little haunting, but ultimately forgettable.   This has ALWAYS bothered me - more than I can say.  Of all the folk I know who had nondescript responses, this was the only one that just didn't feel right.  She really, REALLY has all the attributes (or defects, if you like!) required to connect big style.  She's also been enjoying much ribbing of her sister (yours truly) and of BBM generally, for the past few months.  However, two weeks ago she unexpedectedly scored a week in Mumbai - free business class travel and 5 star hotel etc (mates at qantas).  She hadn't been to India, so was very excited and found it all tres fantastique, at the same time as being profoundly moved and disturbed by the poverty etc.  Standard stuff for a first time visitor to the whackiest place on the planet. 

For some reason she called me from the taxi on the way home from the airport last week, just to 'download' her incredible journey.  She was kinda raving and babbling a bit, as you do when you have a tonne of info to impart in short space of time, but within a couple of minutes she'd said "guess what was showing on the plane on the way home?".  yep, our movie. I immediately said "did you watch it", to which she scoffed and said "of course".  She then went on to say that she found it a VERY different movie to the one she saw originally, and "I think I understand now, what it is you've been saying all this time".  Halleluja!  That's about all she said THEN, but a couple of days later she called and said she was having trouble staying focused at work, because she was inexplicably bursting into tears for no apparent reason, and the like.  Said that it was all part of trying to process the profound experience of India.  Hmmm ..... maybe it's that, maybe it's something else, thinks Wolf.  Yesterday, she called again - and said she was still tearing up at the drop of a hat, but it was easing somewhat.  I decided to dig a little.  asked her when it started, for example (it was towards the end of the flight home - after watching BBM ...... hmmm).  and when pressed for an identifiable trigger, she came up with "I dunno, just all of it I suppose, the whole India experience thing", tho she pointed out that she felt there was something else.  Boldy, I told her I had a theory, but that she'd most likely consider it idiotic.  Said "it could be Brokeback that's doing it".  As expected, she had a long and hearty giggle at that, said things like "yeah, a hollywood movie has upset me more than starving children begging in the streets of Mumbai", laughed some more and thanked me for the cheer up.  Then she stopped - literally did that "ha ha ha ha .... aha ....... ah ........ oh" thing.  Said, "actually, I'm horrified to admit that you may have something there", and "I think I need to see it again, asap". 

Upshot of this longwinded tale is - the power of this film will never cease to amaze me.   I sometimes wonder if there really SHOULD be a surgeon generals' warning on the front cover of the DVD, though.   So many sensible, intelligent, mature people thrown for a loop so unexpectedly. 

Cheers, Wolf
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 05, 2006, 07:59:25 PM
Just letting my dear friends on this thread know that my mother passed away at 9.10am Australian time this morning. God answered our prayers in that 2 nurses were here washing her as she quietly stopped breathing and so were able to take care of her at the end. I was so  fearful of her going during the night even though I checked on her nearly every hour.
Her time of suffering is over. She was much loved and admired. Even her doctor shed a  tear when she came to write the certificate. My sister and I will miss her dreadfully. My sister particularly has been her carer for the past 6 years since Mum moved next door to her and in the past 2 years Mum has needed constant care so there will be a big hole in my sister's life now.
Thanks for all your kind thoughts, hugs  and prayers. My Brokeback friends, though recent, have become extremely important to me.
Brian
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: sue_k7751 on July 05, 2006, 08:28:12 PM
Brian....I am so sorry for your loss.....

I dont know you very well yet, but I know what it is like to lose someone, and the sadness is overwhelming...

My thoughts are with you.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: tfferg on July 06, 2006, 12:55:48 AM
Brian
my deepest sympathies to you and your sister for your loss.
I hope you will be able to share the memories of your mother with your friends and especially those who knew her personally.
Title: Re: G'day! Annie Proulx documentary - "That Old Ace in the Hole"
Post by: tfferg on July 06, 2006, 12:58:54 AM
Hi all you lovely people, a big G'day to you,

A bit off topic, but it was one of the books suggested on the Book Club thread, on Foxtel the Lifestyle Channel is showing a documentary (?) of Annie Proulx's writing of "That Old Ace in the Hole".  I think it's quite an old book of hers, but in the few minutes I watched it, it was fascinating to see the amount of research that went into writing the story.  Am taping it later this morning to watch at leisure tomorrow.




Hi to you too.

That Old Ace in the Hole was written after the Close Range collection. I think I remember AP saying that she wrote it to exorcise Heath and Ennis from her mind

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on July 06, 2006, 03:45:17 AM
Brian, I am so sorry for your loss. You and your sister are lucky to have each other. I am glad that her suffering is over. *hugs*
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 06, 2006, 07:58:14 PM
Brian ~ such a son! 'n your sister, such a daughter .....and the loving care you gave to your mother...it came through in your posts...

gentle hugs especially now..

Joan
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: BBM-Intern on July 07, 2006, 03:51:47 AM
Hi Brian, sorry to hear about your loss, thinking about you at this time.  But there will be sunshine, after the rain, after the sadness, gladness again... we're with you in spirit at this time.

Ministering Angel, I got goosebumps from your post 325302 in Photo Captioning Fun - I believe "Throw your arms around me" was the first piece the Brisbane Lesbian and Gay Pride Choir ever learnt, so it will always have special meaning for us.  The first time I heard the choir sing this, I nearly cried, thinking of Ennis and Jack too...

Love to all on this BB.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: jack on July 07, 2006, 02:29:24 PM
i was just re-packaging some meat i recently purchased  and found myself thinking i wonder how much some of my friends , who are now global in scope, might have to pay for the same thing.  we here in the united states, as exemplified in our perception of gasoline prices, have no concept of what products and services cost globally.

for instance, on sale, i paid for bottom round roast beef, a pleasant but not showy chunk of lightly marbled beef, about $2.50 per lb, and i purchase a package of chicken thighs, skin on for $1.00 a pound.  these are prices i would normally expect to pay, neither the biggest promotional price, nor the cheesiest gouge price.

any comparable prices on these, or any other items y'all are curious about. regionally or by country?

fire away...      http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=11053.0
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on July 07, 2006, 04:22:33 PM
Dear Brian,

I am sorry for your loss. Please accept my condolences.

Your Dear Mother has been fortunate to have a son and daughter like you and your sister.

Love and Hugs

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on July 07, 2006, 05:16:13 PM
My Dear G'day Friends,

I have not been able to post much lately, but I have been thinking of you..
Work .. work .. work .. and tiredness.. The keywords recently in in life..Like most of  us, I guess.
I am sorry to hear about Brian's loss. It is a difficult time for him and his sister.
Sending him 'gentle hugs' as Madame says.

Looking forward to a day to meet with you all. :)

Love and Hugs


Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 07, 2006, 06:23:28 PM
Campfire Darlin'...golly I love adding that to people's names...it's been a word of mine for as long as I can remember...my neighbour calls me Joan Darling simply because I use it so much...there's a love in it for me...strong..and gentle at the same time..

While ministering angel et moi were chatting away in Melb a week ago today...can I believe it...could zoom down to St Kilda in a nanosecond and continue the chat...more wine please ;)

anyway..keep on focus Joanie..keep on focus...we were talking of how wondrous it 'twould be to meet...all of us...I'm going to picture it..in the same way I told neighbour..above...that I picture taking her to the Musee d'Orsay and showing her the most delicate silver jug...with lid...a wee mouse is part of the jug..it's tail wrapped around the handle...such exquisite work...

so...in my imagination I picture us all together...now it's up to the angels to get to work...

ok angels...on the count...ah 1 ah 2 ah 3....see wings flapping already..

any doubters out there....you just watch....not in my time..in life's time....

as the lad says....love youse all!

was browsing Annie Proulx quotes ...am a quote junkie...and came across this..dunno if you've read it before....

that last sentence jolts...does it not...bit as I feel about dear Alma...she had the opportunity at the door...looking at the kissers...she had the opportunity to say ...well who knows what she would have said....however the thing is she HAD the opportunity..and decided to keep mum...I is not saying it would have been an easy ride, however look at what happened because SHE didn't climb that particular Everest in her life...all those painfilled years of deception on both sides...ghastly...

      “I found myself wondering what a gay person in such a masculine-oriented society did - whether they fled to Denver or toughed it out. I began thinking about homophobia. In fact, the thing that destroyed the relationship between the two characters was their own homophobia.”

gentle hugs always...

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 07, 2006, 07:50:43 PM
Thank you again and again for all your messages
I am copying them for my sister who thinks my Brokeback obsession is a bit extreme although she found the movie extremely sad. She has always been the practical one while I am the dreamer. I feel my membership of this Forum is now double blessed. Unfortunately my closest mate is travelling in Europe with his wife (he has sent an email) and my other closest friend is away in the country looking after her mother-in-law and did warn me that it would be hard for her to come home early.
So your contacts, especially Joan (madamshawshanks) who I also feel now is a close friend eve n though we only met at a Brokeback screening  a few months ago, are even more important to me.
I would like to share a most beautiful poem that was sent to me from the Brokeback mourning thread

"I'll catch your smile on someone's face
Your whisper in the wind's embrace
Through diamond stars and songs and dreams
I find your love in everything

The sun, the sky, the rolling sea
All conspire to comfort me
From sorrow's edge life's beauty seems
To find your love in everything

I've come to trust the hope it brings
To find your love in everything
Even as I fall apart,
Even through my shattered heart

I'll catch your smile on someone's face
.....amazing grace"

It is so appropriate for Mum as so many times people are telling us they remember Mum's smile and we know it was despite her suffering. Unfortunately Mum did not like having her photo taken and so we do not have a recent photo of her smile.( I am scanning for the order of service)
Brian
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 07, 2006, 08:21:22 PM
Dear 'n Darlin' Dreamer Brian..golly...tears! sweet ones at that...even though you've not got a recent photo of you mum's smile, your post gave us more than an inkling of that said smile..

when my darlin' Eileen died, our neighbour..the one who Joan Darlings me...said she'd like to get a plant..in memory of mum..I thought that a lovely idea...

so to nursery and nursery and nursery we went...maybe a camellia we thought...Eileen was a treehugger extraordinaire..adored nature..

meanwhile I'd look to the sky and see her...in the blue 'n white of day...in sunset reds...in and beyone the Milky Way...so stars were now my mum...

at the nursery this particular day...approaching the camellia section...ah, thought I that looks gorgeous...that's the one...on closer inspection the name tag told us its name "star above star"...

so, Brian, Lovely One, your mother is with the stars...IMO, there no doubt about it...and boy oh boy is she smiling at you! no doubt abou that either..

the hugs ya know...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on July 10, 2006, 09:04:16 PM
Brian, my sincere condolences on the loss of your dear Mum.  The poem you posted above is beautiful and had me thinking of a lovely smile on the face of a lovely elderly lady - a lady I didn't meet, but feel is somehow part of this little group.

I very much look forward to meeting you next week, to hear more about your Mother's and your own life  :).

Cheers to everyone else.  Still poorly here, at least, the parents are  :-\.  Back as soon as mojo returned.

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on July 10, 2006, 11:28:40 PM
Ministering Angel, I got goosebumps from your post 325302 in Photo Captioning Fun - I believe "Throw your arms around me" was the first piece the Brisbane Lesbian and Gay Pride Choir ever learnt, so it will always have special meaning for us.  The first time I heard the choir sing this, I nearly cried, thinking of Ennis and Jack too...


I've always loved this song and it seemed so apt. Now you mention it, I think I recall seeing the choir singing it.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on July 11, 2006, 05:13:30 AM
I saw your post in the photo caption, Ministering Angel. That has always been one of my most favorite songs...and perfectly sums up the feeling that Jack and Ennis had for one another, I believe.  :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on July 11, 2006, 05:14:27 AM
Brian, that poem is amazing. It should go in the poetry thread also, for more people to read and appreciate. :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 12, 2006, 12:59:50 AM
guess what everyone!  BRIAN HAS A LETTER IN TODAY'S SYDNEY MORNING HERALD.....GO BRIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IMAGINE ME...READING AWAY..(I IS AN ONLINE HERALD GAL) ...'N THERE YOU WERE...

SIMPLY FABULOUS..

HUGS HUGS HUGS :)

http://www.smh.com.au/letters/index.html?page=5
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 12, 2006, 02:46:02 AM
guess what everyone!  BRIAN HAS A LETTER IN TODAY'S SYDNEY MORNING HERALD.
A bit of a shock to me as I was led to believe they phoned you before publishing and I did not read it until on the train coming home.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 12, 2006, 02:48:57 AM
Brian, that poem is amazing. It should go in the poetry thread also, for more people to read and appreciate. :)
Not from me however. It was posted by Nax on the "Mounring someone who has died"thread and i wanted to share it with my G'Day mates
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 12, 2006, 02:52:47 AM
A BIG BIG thankyou and hug to Joan(madamshawshanks) who came to my mother's memorial service today. I appreciated her being there for herself but also felt that she represented all my Brokeback friends on the G'day thread especially but even those overseas. I know many were thinking of me and of course could not be there in person but Joan was there representing you all.

Thanks and more thanks

Brian
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on July 12, 2006, 03:39:28 AM
Brian, Good on you for writing that letter!  I'm afraid I'd never have the gumption to send any letter to a newspaper.  Have been thinking of you the past week. I spent my childhood in nursing homes so I'm very familiar with what your sister and yourself have been through recently.  Others on this thread have expressed how we all feel far better than I ever could.

Hugs, Jocelyn
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 12, 2006, 07:04:10 AM
Brian, re your Herald letter...if you sent it as an email, you should have a message from one, Ben Willing....both my daughter and I enjoy writing letters to the editor...we have a different style...for a while, golly, month after month I had letters published...I was an angry critter in those days ;)

now, only every so often I write...Soph the same...

it's always a treat to see Ben's name in the inbox!

they ring on the weekend if your letter is to be published on the Monday....once there was a message on our answering machine: "Soph, you're shortlisted." very cute!


Jocelyn...send those letters! I can well remember a day a friend of mine was furious about something..."I feel like writing to the Herald!"  Go for it said I...."What do I do?"...long before email etc....I said: "You get a piece of paper and write "Dear Editor....."...then you send it...I used to know the po box off by heart...

letters@smh.com.au

include your address 'n phone number....

off ya go "Dear Editor......"

'n Brian...well, you know.....hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Rockbern on July 13, 2006, 11:29:03 AM
Just found this thread of fellow Aussie Brokeaholics.  I've been a member since December but have had computer problems and have been off line for some months.  Just thought I'd say 'G'day'.  Feel free to read some of my earlier posts to learn where I'm coming from.  This life shattering story and its high profile acceptance [of the film] has affected so many of us.

I'm in Brisbane and would love to meet others who've been similarly affected for in-depth discussions of the film and the original novella.

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 13, 2006, 04:58:17 PM
Just found this thread of fellow Aussie Brokeaholics.  I've been a member since December
I'm in Brisbane and would love to meet others who've been similarly affected for in-depth discussions of the film and the original novella.
Welcome to our little Aussie group Rockbern. I think you probably predate most of us on the forum. I have glanced through your messages and you have a great depth of interest and  insight into the characters of Jack and Ennis.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 13, 2006, 06:19:56 PM
 :) open armed welcome to the Good Ship G'day....ROCKBERN, you'll find us a delightful crew..'n I look forward to reading your posts...only a few minutes online today...golly I doth leave things to the last minute! time to change a bit of that pattern methinks...

once again...the warmest of welcomes....must say it's a treat and a half to meet forum folk....I've met 4! and Wolf is on the horizon ;)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on July 13, 2006, 08:20:40 PM
Brian, been thinking of you muchly and hoping these days are kind to both you and your sister.  Will have a peep at yr letter when I finish here.  I'm assuming it's in relation to aged care?  Professional and personal interest in the subject, and admiration of your good self for speaking up.  Hope you're getting this rain up at W'ford - much needed!

Rockbern, greetings to you, fellow Brokie  :) :).  I'm not sure how one reads another's prior posts (I'm a technodunce!), but I look forward to doing so - I'm also very keen on rabid dissection and discussion of the film, so appreciate reading others' thoughts.  Look forward also, to hearing more from you here  :).  Incidentally, there are a few of our number in Brissie, so shouldn't be too difficult to muster up a ... well ...... a muster!

Hi to everyone else

Brian and Joan, my dears, I'm going to have to pull the plug on wednesday ... again  :-[ :-[.  Is there any possibility that we could bring it forward a day and do it tuesday instead?  I found out yesterday afternoon that my daughter's one day a week at preschool has been changed (long story) >:(.   So my liberty days are tuesdays from hereon in.  Will check in tomorrow to see what you both think (can imagine what you think of me, but we'll save that for the moment  :-[).  Many apologies, meantime.

Well I have a dear, and infrequently seen, friend coming tomorrow, and we'll be having a screening.  Will be wonderful for two reasons, the first being that I haven't seen the boys for two weeks, and the second because the friend in question is very much an unknown quantity as regards her likely reaction.   Has been many months since I watched with a BBM Virgin and I'm finding the prospect fairly delicious.  Pompous as it sounds (and most likely, is), it feels a bit like I'm about to share a wonderful gift.  All very condescending of me  ;D :D ;D.

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Rockbern on July 13, 2006, 08:27:29 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome Brian and madameshawshank. 

It's good to meet others who share my obsession with this poignant love story.  I am a bit reluctant to bring up the subject in general conservation since, on the occasions that I have, the reaction has been rather non-commital and vague - so I haven't pushed it.  I know how easily I could become a crashing boor about it.   Only one new acquaintance seems to have had a similar response to my own but he is no longer available to interact with.   

I have tried to buy the BBM DVD from Amazon and many other sites including the UK [released there in April] but as soon as I indicate that my address is Australian I am not allowed to proceed.  I can't understand how other Australians seem to have no trouble - perhaps my dotage is catching up with me.  I have a God-daughter in London who told me she is sending me the DVD - on the very day I reserved one here locally [It's released on July 20th].   

I've seen it more than a dozen times on the big screen and have downloaded clips that I play endlessly - when my computer is behaving itself.  I am normally quite circumspect and hypercritical about most films I see or books I read - not BBM.  I have to slap myself about the face at times to regain some objectivity. 

I am perhaps more interested in unearthing the reasons why I have been so affected by Annie Proulx's story than I am about the story itself - though of course they're both inextricable intertwined.  It is such a spare, deceptively simple and pragmatically told story - with so many interpretations possible that we each make it our own.  It's setting - the reactionary American West -is so foreign to any of my normal interests, and experience that I have had to address my obvious prejudices and stereotypical attitudes.  I just love Annie's descriptive word choices - so stark, yet so vividly appropriate.  I never thought this type of writing would have the slightest interest for me.   

Simply amazing!

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 13, 2006, 08:55:04 PM
Brian, been thinking of you muchly and hoping these days are kind to both you and your sister.  Will have a peep at yr letter when I finish here.  I'm assuming it's in relation to aged care?  Professional and personal interest in the subject, and admiration of your good self for speaking up.  Hope you're getting this rain up at W'ford - much needed!
Yes it is raining, however my letter was not on aged care although I could write loads of messages congratulating the nurses from the North Shore community nursing, they were real angels. I have outed myself to the whole of Sydney in my letter. I was thankful my sister did not have time to read the Herald on Wednesday but now someone has replied so I am fearfully waiting. The wonderful lady who officiated at Mum's services has seen the letters and written a further reply so it could all appear again tomorrow. Oh dear. 
Brian and Joan, my dears, I'm going to have to pull the plug on wednesday ... again  :-[ :-[.  Is there any possibility that we could bring it forward a day and do it tuesday instead?  I found out yesterday afternoon that my daughter's one day a week at preschool has been changed (long story) >:(.   So my liberty days are tuesdays from hereon in.  Will check in tomorrow to see what you both think (can imagine what you think of me, but we'll save that for the moment  :-[).  Many apologies, meantime.
Tuesday morning this week will not suit. My musical group starts again and though I do not mind missing it occasionally, the members have been regularly asking me about Mum and been so supportive. I will have to break the news to them- really want that over and done with. I can make the afternoon (1pm onward) or the following week.
By the way the most ridiculous message has just been posted on the "How Brokeback affected me" thread   Re: How Brokeback affected me « Reply #7734 Not sure how to link
And on a happier note, Happy Bastille Day from this francophile. :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: jack on July 14, 2006, 10:27:05 AM
brian...

happy to oblige.  here is the link.

http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=101.msg350533#msg350533

what is interesting is the reaction to this post, which ranges from incoherent rage to reasoned invitation to re-view the movie and coninue the dialogue.  and there is a fair bit of this reaction too.  someone even brings up the richard chamberlin tie in to the story of shogun and his deeply closeted life.

and rockbern.  i remember you from the early days as well... welcome back

jack
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: jack on July 14, 2006, 10:31:01 AM
guess what everyone!  BRIAN HAS A LETTER IN TODAY'S SYDNEY MORNING HERALD.....GO BRIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IMAGINE ME...READING AWAY..(I IS AN ONLINE HERALD GAL) ...'N THERE YOU WERE...
http://www.smh.com.au/letters/index.html?page=5
could anyone provide an active link directly to the page or message.  that link provided did not seem to get there, and shopping around didn't get me there either.  or...

brian if you care to post a copy here, i, for one, would wecome it.

jack
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on July 14, 2006, 12:57:55 PM
G'day!

I couldn't find the letter either.  Lots of fun, but nothing from Brian.

Thought I'd offer up a quick report on my travels.  As you most of you know, I went from SYD,  via Japan, to BOS for a meeting.  Long trip (two days), but I slept OK.  Went straight into a dinner meeting and worked hard all week.

Flew to my "official" home, Tucson, Arizona, two weeks ago.  July Fourth was mildly amusing, but SYD fireworks--even the baby ones I can see from my window in Darling Harbour--are so much better.  Good fun, good friends, and some Ozzie wine :)

Technical/business meeting this week just finished, so I'm pretty tired already, but it is Friday.

Next week, off to a conference in Chicago, then to stay with a friend in SFO.  Will also do some work there, but I'm not supposed even to be there officially!  Then to San Diego to stay with my (late) partner's kids for the weekend, and a six hour drive across the desert back to Tucson for another two weeks.

Then it's Auntie's BBQ in Texas!!!!!

Something new has entered my life: Death.  Brian's mum was first, then an old friend whose kidney transplant failed, and then the parents of two of my colleagues here have also died.  I am feeling rather mortal.

Which is all the more reason to make every day count.  And watch BBM again :)

I hope all of you are doing well and enjoying the rain.  It's 40+C here with afternoon thunderstorms, so it's a bit humid too.  But I'm inside working most of the time.

Stay well, g'day-ers. 

--stephen
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 14, 2006, 03:54:06 PM
G'day!

I couldn't find the letter either.  Lots of fun, but nothing from Brian.
Something new has entered my life: Death.  Brian's mum was first, then an old friend whose kidney transplant failed, and then the parents of two of my colleagues here have also died.  I am feeling rather mortal.
--stephen
Good to hear from you Stephen. Your travels always have me reeling. So sorry about the losses you have experienced.
The letter followed articles in the paper about splits in both the Anglican(Episcopalian) and Uniting(An Australian combination of Methodist, Presbyterian and Congregational) churches over the issue of homosexual priests/ministers.
I replied to one letter as follows
A place in His sight

Jon Fox thinks gay Christians should see a psychologist (Letters, July 11). Being a Christian is not like joining a football or other social club. Many of us know God accepts and loves us. We just want to find an earthly place where we can express our devotion, worship and be accepted by fellow Christians.

Brian Ralph Woodford
Then yesterday another letter followed
All seekers welcome

Brian Ralph (Letters, July 12) and other gays are welcome to worship with the Society of Friends (Quakers) at Woodford, Surry Hills, Wahroonga and elsewhere. Quakers see God, or "the light", within everyone and there are no "meddlesome priests".


We are all seekers on a spiritual journey.

Jenny Madeline Kirrawee
 
The deacon who took Mum's services sent the following but thankfully (there is so much exposure one can take) it has not appeared this morning.

Jenny Madeline(letters 14/7) demonstrates again what wonderfully welcoming people the Quakers are. Brian Ralph (letters 12/7) has obviously grown to love the liturgy and form of worship of another denomination and longs for a place of real love and acceptance for gays with those fellow Christians. Let me assure Brian that such places do exist, even in the Anglican Church.
 
Rev’d Sue Emeleus
St George’s Anglican Church,
Paddington.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Rockbern on July 14, 2006, 07:41:43 PM
G'day Jack.

Thanks.  I too remember you.  No doubt your real name is Rich since we all know what happened to the other tough old bird.  I don't know if this is the place I should be.  This board can be quite addictive - especially to an obsessive personality like mine.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 15, 2006, 02:25:34 AM
golly I love this group..

Darling Stephen...tend that Jardin de Stephen!  an order from the madame...

Brian..my oh my....quite the celeb aren't ya :)

have imagined cooking a feast for you all....round table...candles...eyes all a bright...and conversation way way way into the night..

hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: jack on July 15, 2006, 04:22:09 AM
what interesting journeys we ALL take, some right in our own homes.  i recently heard that among my cousins, my equivalent of family, as i am an only child, the remaining oldest just died of brain cancer at 66.  i have one remaining in my generation older than myself.  of the three younger siblings of the deceased, one has had a colostomy and is a diabetic (shaky turf there) and the other has just been diagnosed with ALS, a condition she nursed her mother through some time ago.

i am becoming QUITE aware of my mortality.  but then i have long lived as though i had only a short time to live.

jack (in spirit as well as name)     
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 15, 2006, 08:32:01 AM
the cocoon might be mortal...the spirit is another matter...now that's punnish  ;)

this earth business...ah, what to make of it!

am glad that I have no fear of death...I mean the time after the last breath...methinks that would be a tough gig...to fear that time...so often conditioned stuff...fear taught...fear programmed...'n just think, we will all make that journey...whether there's a something or a nothing...we all make the journey...the fascination ...

12.27am...Tour de France...Sieg now sweetly snoring...my eyes getting heavy..

night ...hugs...'n sweet dreams for the sleepers...whenever sleep is..
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on July 16, 2006, 04:42:19 AM
G'day Rockbern...I was so not prepared for how I would be affected by the movie.

Walked in not really thinking, walked out a different person. I spent the next couple of weeks breaking down in unlikely places, the hairdressers, driving. Thought that I was going mad...until I found this forum.

Now, I still have to watch the movie once a week and grieve, but also found release through BBM slash...a different side to the story.

Jack, it is good to be aware of your mortality I think...then we appreciate each day so much more.  :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on July 16, 2006, 07:07:45 PM
Wow, busy thread these past few days  :D :o :D

Brian, sorry to hear you'll not be able to make it tuesday, but understand your desire to tell your friends about your mum.  I'm beginning to think you, myself and Joan aught to try to make it a regular thing anyway, so sometime soon, I'll have the pleasure of meeting you  :).  Meantime, ditto Joan's words - you're famous  8).  Interesting to hear from the Quakers .. hadn't realised there was a community in W'ford. 

Joan, sent you a pm m'dear  ;).

Rockbern, gosh I enjoyed your most recent post  :).  Your words really gave me a jolt of recognition, which is as we speak, morphing into another wave of Brokeback Fever  :-\ ;D.  Like you, I'm generally hyper-critical of the hollywood product, thus was most discombobulated to find that a film with as many 'faults' as BBM, rendered me insensate to same.  I'm essentially still reeling 5 months down the track, with no explanation in sight.  I also surprised myself by enjoying Ms Proulx original work, despite it being a style of prose I'd normally avoid.  She's most definitely not my kinda author, but the power of her story transcends all, IMHO. 

Jack, appreciated the reminder of how important it is to try to live each day as though it's one of our last.  Despite constantly telling myself this, it's all too easy to forget in the flurry of little annoyances that visit our days.  I lost two friends this past year - one was 38, the other just 37 (heart attack and cancer, respectively)  :'(, so you'd think an appreciative approach to life would be a cakewalk.  It seems we're hardwired to forget  :-\.

Mr Mellor, I'm tired just reading your itinerary!  Sounds as though you're going to relish the downtime at the Big BBQ  :) :).  Must have been nice catching up with your late partner's kids - I imagine you don't get to see them too often.  I agree that sometimes a viewing can be very theraputic (see above comment to Jack re: mortality et al).  It may just be the most theraputic weapon in our personal arsenals ....... gawd, that was a tongue twister  :-\.

I'm off to meet Mme Shawshank tomorrow  :) :).  (Actually, Joan, now that I think about it, since Brian isn't joining us, aught we consider going somewhere a little closer to home?  Maybe lower Mountains?  or even Penrith?  I have no objection at all to going up to the Falls or thereabouts though, if that's what you prefer.)  Meantime, I had a very VERY interesting night on saturday - with my BBM Virgin friend.  She was a little more chatty during the movie than is helpful, but it in the end it didn't seem to detract from it for her.  She missed none of the subtext or nuance and was completely, utterly, and totally converted  :) :P :).  She was literally sobbing at the end, and needed some time alone without my pestering her with my excited puppy "so what did you think" etc.  After 30 mins or so of getting to grips with the initial gutpunch and tears, we talked for a good two hours about her reactions.  I felt both privaleged and slightly mortified to be witness to her 'conversion'.  Mortified because there's a definite guilt associated with subjecting someone to such 'pain'.  Privelaged because it's such a rare and wonderous thing to see someone you know and love feel the power of the movie.

Cheers all

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 17, 2006, 01:39:38 AM
well ain't I an excited little chick!.....about to meet yet ANOTHER broker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what a special journey this is...

hugs all...'n we'll lift our cups and toast and toast and toast....to you, to Annie, to the BBM crew...all involved in the film...and again TO YOU ;)

will put ma camera in the bag..so as not to forget...memories...priceless
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Rockbern on July 17, 2006, 07:34:30 AM
G'day Lolita

Are you any closer to understanding why the story is having this effect on you?  Sometimes I feel I am getting close to THE WHY but then it seems to slip away.  For me, repression seems to at the heart of it. 

Last week I finally summoned up enough courage to do what I should have done many years ago - told someone how I truly felt about them.  Now I am still having mixed feelings about doing so but I couldn't stand it any longer I had to try and fix it .  Without Brokeback and this forum I would never have been able to try.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Rockbern on July 17, 2006, 08:05:31 AM
G'day Wolf

Thank you for your comments - always entertaining.  Everyone on this thread seems to lead such a hectic social life - you're at the top of the list.  I've just got back from a quick trip to Rocky [Rockhampton] myself where I saw more people in 24 hours than I'd see here [Brisbane] in a fortnight.  One was a school mate I haven't seen since the 70s.  He's a Vietnam vet with a few problems.  It was very good to see him again.

The older I get the more sentimental and nostalgic I become.

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 17, 2006, 03:33:54 PM
Last week I finally summoned up enough courage to do what I should have done many years ago - told someone how I truly felt about them.  Now I am still having mixed feelings about doing so but I couldn't stand it any longer I had to try and fix it .  Without Brokeback and this forum I would never have been able to try.
Congrats Rockbern. I think Brokeback has this effect on many of us. I have been so much more open to the world since joining this forum.

The older I get the more sentimental and nostalgic I become.
Join the club ;D

Hope Wolf and madamshawshanks have a good chinwag today.
Brian
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Rockbern on July 17, 2006, 09:13:02 PM
Brian

I was in Sydney on holiday in early December when I first came across Annie's book.  As you say, her story immediately made me feel more at one with the world.  I hadn't realized how cut off I had allowed myself to become - nor how friendly people [Sydneysiders in this case] can be if you let them. 

Ordinary people from all walks of life and of all ages, passing in the street would smile, nod and even say "G'day".  Once in the CBD I clumsily tripped over my feet.  About half a dozen people rushed to my assistance.  Another time when cycling along a beachside path [with many sets of steep stairs where one had to carry one's bike] I had many offers of help.  I was invited to New Year celebration parties and given small gifts from people where I was staying whom I hardly knew.  I had never experienced this before.  I felt accepted and part of something. 

I at first put it down to the holiday spirit, my getting older or my increased awareness of the world after reading BBM, but now realise that the problem had a lot to do with me and the negative, closed and repressed vibes I was unconsciously giving off.  I had to do something about it - and am feeing much better for doing so.

Even so, I feel there is something special about Sydney and Sydneysiders.  Brisbanites, to me, are not as friendly.  Perhaps we live too much in the deep north and not enough of us have seen BBM.  I now intend to spend every December/January in Sydney - as I have in the past, but not with my present attitude to life.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 18, 2006, 12:46:24 AM
stuff to do my sweets...

promised Wolfie a haiku...a celebratory haiku in fact...so without further ado...here goes

ongoing discovery

Annie, a question
in Glenbrook this day friendship
Jack's bag and flowers

hugs dears all....simply love youse to bits I do....each and every one of you ...to bits!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on July 19, 2006, 03:28:55 AM
Golly! I stay away from G'day for a couple of weeks and so much happens! I've only skimmed the surface of all the posts, it's too chilly in this office for me to linger BUT:
Brian - so sorry to hear of your loss. I hope the knowledge that your mother is out of her pain will help ameliorate your grief. And congrats on the SMH letter, I was awfully excited the one time I was published (haven't tried for years, I wonder if it's easier or harder now?).
Stephen - arrgh! I forgot to include you in my annual "Happy 4th of July" email I send to my US friends! how embarrassing. Hope you had a great day nonetheless and can't wait to come back and read your travel updates more fully.
Rockbern - yay! you found us! I remembered you from the early days of the forum and was wondering how to let you know about the existence of G'day. There were a couple of other Aussies whom I hope also find us, particularly as it sounded like they live quite close to me.
Wolf and Madame - having had some free time lately, I should've arranged to catch up with you two! dammit. I might be about to start some part-time work but all is not lost, once I know my hours we can take it from there.
And a big hello to everybody else, new and old.

What's wrong with you guys??? I expected the forum to be in a ferment over the fact that the DVD is released tomorrow! have you all gone and got your clandestine/foreign copies and don't care? Well, I will be racing into the nearest DVD store and by golly they better not say "It's all been pre-ordered". It will be the first and only time I pay full price for a DVD (add to previous rants about region encoding my distaste for the gross overpricing of DVDs, which admittedly is not as exorbitant as it is for CDs) but I can't bear to be apart from my darling boys any longer. It's bad enough not having been able to head on over to Mellor's place and snuggle down for a fix these last few weeks.

I watched Jarhead the other week. Interesting film, as well as being a fine performance by Jake. Actually I found it quite hard to adjust to seeing him in a non-Jack role and had to watch the film a few times to shake off a rather annoying "Jack would never do that!" response. He fit Jack so perfectly I fear I may never fully accept him in other roles.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on July 19, 2006, 05:38:33 AM
Hello Photondancer, no I hadn't forgotten about the DVD being released tomorrow.  I've preordered 2 copies!! One to keep and one to lend, so I'm hoping they will be in the mail tomorrow.

Well I'd better get back to the nursery, one of my dogs is in the middle of whelping. Six pups so far and a tummy full to go.  It's going to be a VERY long night!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 19, 2006, 04:16:41 PM
nah dancer gal...hadn't forgotten 20 July!..thing is..I've been thinking of the new wave of brokers....those who will be seeing it for the first time...and hopefully they will find places such as this forum....otherwise....well, can you imagine no forum!

let's be on the lookout for those folk.....it will be in their eyes...

hugs and more

hope Mr Mellor will be in for another viewing on his return...

let's send him hugs shall we!

after 3...1, 2, 3!

hope ya got them Stephen :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: jack on July 19, 2006, 05:56:38 PM
do y'all know how to keep tabs of new arrivals from the stats board?

jack (btdt)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on July 19, 2006, 06:51:07 PM
Happy DVD Release Day, everyone  :)

First up, had a marvellous few hours with Joan on tues - discoursing to our heart's content about the boys (and what a great thrill that is - being able to talk about them unencumbered by the need to exercise restraint), eating luscious cakes and generally having a fine old 'get to know you' time.  Many, many thanks to you, dear Joanikins.  For your company and your thoughtful and touching gifts  :) :). 

Well, I trotted off to my local Blockbuster immediately after the school run this morning.  Couldn't wait to get in and see where they'd put the boys, how many copies, and if any were actually out yet.  All Very Important Information  ;D.   Turns out they'd put them on the shelves last saturday  :o :o.  14 copies, all but 2 were out this morning, which is the first day there's been ANY copies available since it landed  :) :).  So it's been comprehensively devoured - with plenty of forward bookings .... yay yay YAY!

Of course, once I found out it'd had been in for nearly a week, I was DYING to know what people were saying when they returned it.  Spent the next hour discussing same with the woman behind the counter  :P.  She said she's had a couple of "what was I thinking - I let my 15 yr old daughter watch!" type responses, but not a single 'bad review'.  Apparently the vast majority are saying things like "it wasn't what I expected" "it was staggeringly good" and "it made me realise it takes all kinds to make a world" or similar from older, married folk.  Now that I look at those quotes, I see that I'm not conveying at all what was conveyed to me.  Or rather, those quotes do a disservice to just how profoundly moved these new crop of viewers are - and this particular lot are your WASPish, suburban, family types.  Did I mention the husbands coming in all sheepish saying "the wife wants it", then returning it next day not knowing where to look and mumbling things like "it was ..... very unexpected and very good" and so on?.  Joan, I actually mentioned to the Blockbuster manager that you and I had considered doing a missive of warning to the SMH, and she pretty much said, "judging by the reactions I'm seeing, you probably should have".   

So there you are folks.  Straight from the horse's mouth, as it were.   What we half-hoped but didn't dare believe might really happen, is happening.  And it's happening all around the country as we speak.  Can only guess at what the weekend will bring - given the peak nights will be friday and saturday  :o :o.

Cheers to all, and a welcome back to Photon!  We'll do coffee and cake again soon eh?

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 19, 2006, 07:14:57 PM
ah..wolfie..ya bring joyous tears to ma eyes....see folk ARE paying attention to the Mother Ship!..'n keep your lovely eyes out for #22.....it will reach you unexpectedly....and you are to tell me of it...no secret keeping here ma dear...

love youse all
hugs

ps...I've met 5 forum folk...all so different in personality etc...and all precious to me beyond words....sort of new...yet foreverish...as though beforeish.....as each time I've met them it's...oh yes...no need to get to know...instant....

hugs

moi hoping many of Oz make there way to here ~ newcomers yet ..maybe not ;)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on July 20, 2006, 10:51:57 PM
Perhaps whenever we spot an unattended copy of the DVD we should pop in a slip of paper with the forum address on it.
Not that there are many lying around at present. I just hope it goes fabulously well. And that people get the message.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: calgaryactor on July 21, 2006, 08:49:52 PM
G'day from Canada, my Aussie friends!  It's been way too long since I've been down to visit!

When I was a wee lad, I was infatuated with Australian singer Helen Reddy.  She visited the Calgary Stampede late in the 1970s, and I was able to snag this photo of her, hoisitng my Dad's Nikon (which at the time weighed half as much as me, with mega-telephoto lens and flash unit attached).  I think it turned out rather well given the experience level of the photographer!

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h166/bendayseurat/helen.jpg)

Since I hear Helen is about to be inducted into the ARIA Hall of Fame in August, I thought I'd take this opportunity to post the pic.  By the way, I hear she loved Brokeback Mountain.

By the way, if any of you have a chance to take in William Yang's latest show about his travels in Canada, please go, and say hello from Steve - one of his stories in his show is about the time we spent together in Calgary when he was performing here in the middle of a severe cold spell (minus 40 degrees celsius).
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on July 21, 2006, 11:02:05 PM
Hi there calgaryactor!

That is indeed, a great pic of Ms Reddy.  Well done, The Smaller Version of You  :).

I didn't know about her upcoming induction into the ARIA H of F - a bit embarrassing that a non-Australian has given the heads up about this  :-[ ;D.

Are you serious about the minus 40c, BTW?  I can't even imagine half of that  :-\. 

Drop back in and visit soon.  We're happy to chat to proxy Aussies as well as the real thing  ;).

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: calgaryactor on July 22, 2006, 12:56:01 AM
Not to worry - I still keep tabs on Helen Reddy's career because old habits die hard.  I also attended her farewell concert, which was performed in Edmonton, Alberta a few years ago (about a three hour drive north of here).  It seems a very odd place to have wrapped it up, but I guess she had made the booking several months before her decision to retire.

It doesn't happen often, but yes, we hit minus 40 degrees once or twice during the year.  It is Hell; there is no other word to describe it.  On my last visit to Brisbane, it was plus 32 degrees above when I left.  When I arrived back in Calgary on New Year's Day, it was minus 32.

We're in a bit of a warm spell right now, with tomorrow's high projected to be plus 31.  I prefer it in the mid 20's myself.  We're going hiking up Moose Mountain, where several of the sheep scenes for Brokeback Mountain were shot.

BTW, have you folks had a chance to check out our website, www.findingbrokeback.com - still a work in progress, but it shows several of the shooting locations.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on July 22, 2006, 10:13:34 AM
What is ARIA, please?

And the Finding Brokeback site is amazing! I can't recommend it enough, even if you're never planning a trip to Alberta.

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: calgaryactor on July 23, 2006, 12:58:30 AM
ARIA = Australian Recording Industry Association.  What a cool acronym, eh?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on July 23, 2006, 10:19:10 AM
Very cool! Thanks!

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on July 23, 2006, 07:17:31 PM
ca (calgaryactor),

thanks, will indeed check out the website toot sweet  :).  am hungry to see more of the stunning locations used - and this may be my only chance - can't see myself getting there in the flesh anytime soon!

does Ms Reddy live in Canada now?  I thought she'd been a long-term US resident, but as per my ARIAS ignorance, I'm not exactly up to date on her career  :-[ ;D.

very envious of your 'sheep scenes' hiking, BTW!  I'd love to do that, but at the same time I think it may be too emotional  :o. 

didn't know whether to laugh or offer sympathy for your trans-Pacific temperature variation discombobulation!  what do you do in Brisbane, when you're there, BTW?  do you have family or friends there?

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: calgaryactor on July 24, 2006, 11:46:27 PM
Hi "Wolf":

After a brief detour to Norfolk Island, Helen has returned to Sydney, where she works as a clinical hypnotherapist.  Her autobiography, THE WOMAN I AM, was published in Oz last year, and made its way over to North America this year.  She's into past-life regression, and talks at length about this in the book (a bit to its detriment, I'm afraid).  But the book was still interesting for me, as I knew little about her life before I AM WOMAN came out.  You can also check her website at http://www.helenreddy.com

I made friends with vacationing Aussies during a trip through Europe, and have come Down Under from time to time to visit.  I once made the mistake of trying to outdrink an Australian bush pilot in Adelaide.  Baaaad mistake, and it effectively ended my recreational drinking career.  We ended up in a bar that was formerly a cathedral, with the religious icons still in the place.  I remember being on the floor, thinking I was going to die, and looking up at a statue of Mary, with strobe lights bouncing off of her.  Oh. My. God.

The crew that assembled the Finding Brokeback website is meeting up again this weekend in Alberta and re-inflicting our presence on the various locales.  The other guys haven't actually hiked into any of the more remote areas yet, as the majority of the places are no more than 70 metres off a major road.  I will be the brutal taskmaster who drags them 8 km up a mountain.  They may feel the same way about me after this that I felt about the bush pilot.

CalgaryActor (aka Steve)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on July 25, 2006, 10:24:55 AM
I made friends with vacationing Aussies during a trip through Europe, and have come Down Under from time to time to visit.  I once made the mistake of trying to outdrink an Australian bush pilot in Adelaide.  Baaaad mistake, and it effectively ended my recreational drinking career.  We ended up in a bar that was formerly a cathedral, with the religious icons still in the place.  I remember being on the floor, thinking I was going to die, and looking up at a statue of Mary, with strobe lights bouncing off of her.  Oh. My. God.

You tried to outdrink an Australian bush pilot?

What were you thinking?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?  :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 25, 2006, 04:46:54 PM
hi there darling y'alls

time to say ...love youse!

bit of stuff on plate...daughter sick sick sick....someone smashed her car window last night...so this day is fullish..


'n always the story of the mountain...I wonder how the newcomers are today...those Oz folk who've seen it for the first time and are wondering.."where can I find people! noone around me cares about this....about this that is now me...."

may they find here

hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 25, 2006, 05:01:03 PM
hi there darling y'alls

time to say ...love youse!

bit of stuff on plate...daughter sick sick sick....someone smashed her car window last night...so this day is fullish..
hugs
So sorry about your daughter, look after her and yourself
hugs
 Brian
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on July 25, 2006, 09:31:26 PM
I once made the mistake of trying to outdrink an Australian bush pilot in Adelaide.  Baaaad mistake, and it effectively ended my recreational drinking career.  We ended up in a bar that was formerly a cathedral, with the religious icons still in the place.  I remember being on the floor, thinking I was going to die, and looking up at a statue of Mary, with strobe lights bouncing off of her.  Oh. My. God.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D at the bolded bit. and poor dear Mary, all strobed up with nowhere to go.

seconding Mr Mellor's aghastness at your taking on a bush pilot - full of derring do you are!  the first and last helicopter ride (in Central Australia - ie, extremely 'bush') of my life started out like this: 

wolf and man of the hour "we'd like to book an hour to fly over the desert", woman with tattoos and mullet "you gotta find the pilot, he's probably at the bar".   he was not only drunk, but a very cranky Vietnam Veteran who had it in for cityslickers like ourselves.  hello.

wow wow wow at your forthcoming 8km mountain trek - if there were a green faced envy emoticon up there, I'd use it here.   hope your compatriots are fit!

cheers and hugs to Brian and Mme S.  Thinking of you both and sending get well vibes to your darling S, Joan. 

w

not much newsworthy at the house of w this week.  just returned from the Plaza wherein I espied the placement and number of copies of our movie at the various retail outlets.  my poor daughter thought mother had lost her mind.  all that looking and no actual purchasing - what is the world coming to!

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 26, 2006, 01:47:29 AM
dunno why ...was just thinking of what an Ennis or Jack birthday might have been like...

we met, in a fashion, both of Jack's parents and Ennis's father....one can wonder about his mother...married to Mr Del Mar ~ did papa take the lads secretly to see the body?  or did mama know?  maybe his mama was a little like Mrs Twist...maybe..

am thinking of birthdays...that's all..

'n thinking of you all!!!!!

shall we raise our glasses and drink to us....let's be absolutely greedy...

Stephen...our daughter has seen all the Absolute Power episodes...she shakes her head AND just about weeps with laughter...the writing is close to perfection..if that exists ;)

she loves that they have to spin America...and a brand of icecream and Botox are the only positive things they can come up with...it is razor sharp...

hugs to all...and love too...of course :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on July 26, 2006, 07:58:51 AM
I can't find Absolute Power on DVD here in the US--except that Clint Eastwood movie.  They should spin that!

I am having very bad withdrawal pains.  I desperately need it on DVD.  May have to wait till I come back, and then trek down to ABC Shops.

Can I wait that long?

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on July 26, 2006, 11:28:52 PM
I turned over a copy of the DVD at a video library this week and went YUK! All the great pics they could put on the back and they chose the only pic in existence that shows our Heath looking unattractive. And I hear the subtitles suck too. Thank goodness I don't have to buy one - yet. How long do DVDs last before you wear them out?

I tried lurking around the shelves, waiting for someone to look interested btw so I could give them a push in the right direction and get them to hire a copy. Probably put people off!

Madame, what in the hell happen a August? Did you not mention August? We'll have to give Campfire plenty of warning.

And isn't it about time it reshowed on a big screen here in Melbourne? I'd love to see it again at a cinema, even if FNIT and SNIT do look like they were filmed down a disused coal mine.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 27, 2006, 05:44:53 AM
hi all...am tired as all get out....have to be up early in the morn...

angel dear...the August trip will be rushed like anything...hardly a nanosecond spare...big family stuff....so alas...

Stephen...daughter Sophie found them all on the net....she has spent hours laughing until she wept....

it is some of the best writing I've come across for tvland....Fry is bloody magnificent...

next week they will spin America..as ya do...

this week it was the turn of The House of Lords to be spun...wondrous Brit tv at its finest...

patience dear Mr M patience...

hugs to all....pillow time...am sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo tired..

off to ABC in Ultimo for the knit in....my first time...am looking forward to it...7.50am from Emu...oh I'm tired..'nuff of the moaning...just go to sleep Joanie.. ;)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: calgaryactor on July 28, 2006, 12:51:36 AM
wow wow wow at your forthcoming 8km mountain trek - if there were a green faced envy emoticon up there, I'd use it here.   hope your compatriots are fit!

We all met up today in Calgary, and I have obviously underestimated them.  Now I'm worried they'll leave me in the dust ......

Anywhere, here's a peek of some familiar scenes on Moose Mountain from my trip last week.  I sure hope you have a chance to come up here to visit some day!

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h166/bendayseurat/MooseNQ1.jpg)

(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h166/bendayseurat/MooseValley1.jpg)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 29, 2006, 04:39:47 AM
oh those photos! what a treat to be there...those trees...a part of the story we love so well....

happy travels to all

hugs as ever
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on July 30, 2006, 08:31:53 PM
Bit pressed for time at the moment, just wanted to say

WOW to Steve re: your pics of Moose Mtn  :) :) :).  The second one in particular, had me doing this  :o.  Is that not the very place (in the background) we see the herd go up the mtns? - the very place we see the sheep peeing?  the envy is getting out of hand here  :-\ ;D.  incidentally, it seemed almost comically odd to see you guys in such light, summery attire in that setting.  my brain automatically associates those trees and those mtns with cold!

Mme S, when your busiosity settles, we aught do coffee/cake again soon.  This time with Brian, hopefully!

Ministering Angel, would love to see the "ugly" pic of Heath you referred to.  is it taken from the bus station scene?  I think he looks tres ordinnaire in that scene (wash my mouth out).  Ha ha, love the idea of hanging about the library/blockbuster or what have you, just to see who picks up our boys.  We need one of those little clipboards with counters attached like those you see African men with at busy intersections  ;D.

Hi to all.  Happy Monday.

W

just for the record, I'm now at day 16 since my last viewing.  am trying to hold out til Aug 8 when I have the big tv to my ownsome.  Dunno if I'll make it, but if I do it's going to be wonderful.  I've already reached the point where I can't easily recall subtleties.  exactly what I'd been hoping for - a bit of distance to lend enchantment.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on July 31, 2006, 07:33:45 AM
Dear All,

I have not been able to  post any message lately, but you are always on my mind..could not make the time to post , but checked the messages regularly. :)
A bit colder and wetter than usual last few days in Melbourne, well we need  rain so should not complain about that.

Thanks Steve for the gorgeous photos.. So unbelievable to see you guys with that mountain background , that is an enormous privilege to  get there and breathe that mountain air in .. Thanks for sharing the experience with us.

How is everybody, Wolf, Madame, Brian, MellorSJ  , Ministering Angel ?? Hope you all are well and keeping warm.

Just checked the Eyelashes.. if you have not done it, please have a look at  few screen captions of Jake.. very nicely captured.
Tried to put the link below, see if it will work.
http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=9943.9015

See you soon , let's say..

Big Hugs to all...

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 31, 2006, 09:55:26 PM
Hi everybody
Have been reading but not posting. I have work as a census collector. Regretting it daily, blisters all over my feet. Please be kind to whoever comes to your door and keep your furry friends locked away :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on August 01, 2006, 12:02:22 AM
Ministering Angel, would love to see the "ugly" pic of Heath you referred to.  is it taken from the bus station scene?  I think he looks tres ordinnaire in that scene (wash my mouth out).  Ha ha, love the idea of hanging about the library/blockbuster or what have you, just to see who picks up our boys.  We need one of those little clipboards with counters attached like those you see African men with at busy intersections  ;D.

It's one of those publicity shots done with the two of them leaning against a truck, not anything from the film. Not ugly, exactly, just not jump-his-bones gorgeous.
Title: Brokeback at Chauvel Cinema tomorrow night
Post by: photondancer on August 01, 2006, 12:55:32 AM
Hiya all

Just a quick word that Sydneysiders have another chance to see Brokeback Mountain 7pm tomorrow night, Wednesday the 2nd, at the Chauvel Cinema in Paddington. It's on a double with Memoirs of a Geisha, a somewhat bizarre combo in my opinion. Sorry for the late notice; I wanted to email this on Saturday but found my weekend access to the office STILL isn't working. *sigh* I wish I could afford internet@home.

Campfire, thanks for the Eyelashes link. I've always found the play of expressions on Jake's face in that scene particularly noteworthy, even in a film as full of noteworthy performances as this. I also adore the scene where he won't look at Ennis washing himself, only the tiniest facial twitches giving away how tense he is. I wish I had time to go thru the Eyelashes threads, but I get a huge kick out of the fact that it's far and away the most popular thread. I wish Jakey would join in the fun!

MellowSJ, here's something to cheer you through your Absolute Power withdrawal. You're right, Ennis does say "I love you" in the shirts scene. Well, he breathes it rather than says it - the subtitles don't show it so I guess it wasn't considered dialogue. I missed it in every one of the cinema viewings and at your place, but picked it up straight away with the DVD. I think it's the headphones I use when playing the DVD, I'm picking up all sorts of sonic details. Like the fact that as Ennis and Jack pull away from each other at the reunion, just before going upstairs, they both speak inaudibly. I knew that Ennis was saying something (couldn't hear what) but I never noticed  that Jack replies. This seems to be a film that requires superior sound equipment to get it all, which is a pity because most viewers' experience will therefore be substandard. It was a common complaint on the IMDb messageboard.

Speaking of IMDb, somebody posted under Goofs that Jake can be seen wearing contact lenses in the bar scene where Lureen approaches him. I played that scene several times without noticing anything but I'm not sure what to look for. Does anybody know if he wears contacts?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on August 01, 2006, 03:27:37 AM
Hi everyone,

Like Brian, I've been regularly reading but not posting.  Brian, you should have asked for a rural area to do the census.  They all drive to do the rounds here.  It would have saved on blisters!

Photon, thank you for mentioning the screening but it's just too short a notice and weeknights in the city are too far away for me. :( :(  The good news is the DVD I pre-ordered finally turned up today so I can console myself with that!!!

Cheers all.
Title: Re: Brokeback at Chauvel Cinema tomorrow night
Post by: MellorSJ on August 01, 2006, 09:25:55 AM
MellowSJ, here's something to cheer you through your Absolute Power withdrawal. You're right, Ennis does say "I love you" in the shirts scene. Well, he breathes it rather than says it - the subtitles don't show it so I guess it wasn't considered dialogue. I missed it in every one of the cinema viewings and at your place,

Ha!  It *was* there!  I was so surprised when I heard it, then I couldn't hear it when I tried again.  Pain!

As for Absolute Power, I'm getting my fix by watch Fry and Laurie sketches on YouTube.  I made the mistake of watching Mr Burmie in the office yesterday, and nearly frightened everyone when I lost it at the end.

You do have to see it to the end though...it's worth it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic8nK4BcRN4&mode=related&search=Stephen%20Fry
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: calgaryactor on August 01, 2006, 11:09:59 PM
WOW to Steve re: your pics of Moose Mtn  :) :) :).  The second one in particular, had me doing this  :o.  Is that not the very place (in the background) we see the herd go up the mtns? - the very place we see the sheep peeing?

Don't know about the sheep peeing - but yup, the background in that photo is found around 10:24 in the film.  I took a friend from Virginia up Moose Mountain today - this time all the way to the top (appx. 8 thousand feet).  It was amazing - though I think he was being a bit over complimentary, he said it was as stunning as the Grand Canyon.

I remember being on some equally stunning hikes through the Blue Mountains east of Sydney ....... what an amazing place that is.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on August 04, 2006, 02:51:40 AM
hello Oz!

my New Years' resolution is this...in advance you'll know ;) moi will not leave things to the last minute!

hectic don't even come close...

Wolfie et Brian (et anyone else)...any days except Monday 'n Wednesday are fine with me next week...would be scrumptious to meet up again...

on another forum (obviously not a brokeback one) I started a movie thread.."let's go to the movies"..rather interesting posts...I enjoy the diversity...

one member who I've interacted with in various threads wrote that she'd not seen bbm ~ she also wrote that madame would be shocked....it's on her list of 'to see'....

'n I got to thinking about how my life would be if I'd not seen it ~ for one thing, I'd have not met you darlings...so for starters, the film has enriched my life ~ isn't it truly amazing ~~~~~~~~~

Friday night is gal pals evening...6 of us for over 15 years...great friendships...here tonight..so better get ma skates on...

creme brulee french toast for dessert....found the recipe on epicurious.com (it reads as very very rich..indeed it is..however even those who say "I don't really like dessert/sweet food." are suckers for this....

will make it for you one day...before we have that meeting in the middle of Oz feast...

wherever you are this moment, I wish you wellness beyond your imaginations...

ps...would you send travel thoughts to Mt Isa (I've been asked to give an idea some liftoff) so, any travel images are a goer...and any time day or night....joyously flood the place ..merci
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on August 05, 2006, 05:13:06 PM
Hi there G'dayers..

Finaly I have done it! After almost 5 months I have managed to arrange a BBM dvd watch night. My sister and three close friends were able to make it this time. There have been few cancellations in the past.
I have tried to limit my explanations , oh  my God it  was  sooooo  difficult  not to say anything and let them watch :) .
So  we were five people alltogether. Was a bit crowded , maybe.. I have got the reaction I was expecting.
I think it is best to watch max two people to really focus. Also we needed to stop the dvd as people took few breaks ( I did not want them to miss anything )

Three of them are generally logical people and try to explain all in logical ways by asking why did he do that and this, basically nobody got affected like me , nobody seen the details I have seen ( when I have first watched )  or melted in Jake's longing , sad looks after dozy embrace.

One friend could not see the difficulties that Ennis and Jack did have in terms of not being able to express themselves. I mean the pressure come from society. When  I have suggested that most likely  Jake was  killed due to his attempts to be with Randall, she then thought a bit..:(

The other one thought the movie was all about a macho man ( Ennis ) who ruined his wife's life and Jack's life.According to her, Ennis could not make up his mind and wanted both so massed up the things badly.

One friend suggested they were not gays , they were basically bi-sexuals as they both have wifes.

All were quiet and focused on first and second tent scenes.  They got upset  when  they have found out Aquirre were watching them .. and the famous reunioun kiss, it was the hit.. One friend reacted as saying ' Oh my God ' when Ennis passionately kiss Jack.. It was very unexpected for them.. :)  and the same friend could not watch when Ennis was holding and crying  with Jack's tshirt.It was too much for her,   was too emotional.

Of course great scenery was one of the hight lights of the movie for them.

In the end, yes it was a good movie, but they did not understand and appreciate my LOVE for that movie. They have said it is always the case, when there is too much talk about a movie it might a bit put off and when you watch it you  think what is the fuss about that movie. Once I have convinced that how different I am than my sister and friends and how alone I am in terms of my connection to that movie. Maybe if they would have watched  at a cinema, they would have focused better and seen more, I dont know . But at least there are now 4 more people watched our beloved movie on this earth and that matters. Perhaps one day they will see something, somebody and the experience of seeing the movie will make them think the situation  better.

Now once more  I know  what a privilege and a sensational experience would have been watching the DVD my BBM friends.:)

I am happy that I have found that forum and knowing all friends out is a huge relief and comfort. Somehow we were the only ones who were  ready to make a shift in our  lives , in the way we look at the LOVE , the way we interpret the LOVE , only us.. In those 5 close friends, only me .

Tell you what, some people will  never get it in this life, never. It is the way they think , the  way they process the emotions. They will never see what we see. Few friends watched that movie had  profound emotional experiences earlier  in their lives, but those  experiences did not help them to see  the beauty and difficulty of MAN's LOVE.

Thanks for listening :)

 I think I will post that in a few more threads to share..

Have a nice week my friends..

Love and Hugs




Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on August 05, 2006, 09:15:51 PM
'nuff to say sweet campfire...by the time I'd reached the end of your post I was crying...

perhaps some of those tears might, in some way, water the spirits that have certain doors windows shut...

oh golly gosh...this story!

not one of my close friends/family members have taken the story to their hearts..
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on August 06, 2006, 10:40:05 AM
G'day y'all!

How's that for bi-lingual?

Some news about me for you:  My company decided to shut us down, and we have each been told to get lost.  My last day is Sept 4, then I still plan to meet some committments I made in Europe and Japan (so long as they pay me :) ), and then back south for the summer.

I am sad it had to end this way after 22 years, and I am angry at the mismanagement that led to this conclusion.  OTOH, that mismanagement was making me miserable, so there's an upside.  Even better, I should be able to spend more time in Oz now, immigration and tax law permitting.

Since I "live" in Arizona, I have to clear out not only the office stuff, but also my clothes, books, etc.  I'm throwing most it away, since I can't carry it with me.  That's the saddest part: those mementos stashed away  that trigger memories happy and sad.

Hope you are all surviving the winter...  40C here again today with monsoons.

-- stephen
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on August 06, 2006, 08:50:52 PM
Hello to all  :)

Mr Mellor, WOW, big news from sunny Arizona  :o.  glad to hear there's a silver lining to this particular cloud, though can imagine it'll be an adjustment after so many years.  Hope the 'move' goes well, in the meantime.  Oh, and have fun in Nippon!

Campfire, my dear, ditto Mme S!  felt for you when reading your post.  it's very hard to see people we love and THINK we know well, just not get our movie isn't it.   Can you imagine how incredible it'd be to fill a cinema with Brokies one day? 300 odd good folk who totally get and adore BBM?  Lordy me but I'm feeling the love just thinkin' about it  :-[ ;D.

Brian, I've been positively delightful to our census personage  ;).  Are you collecting as well?  You're a good egg to do it, I must say.  Incidentally, we spent several lovely hours in Woodford yesterday.  Went down to Murphy's Glen and had the place to ourselves ... bellbirds and sunshine and us  :). 

calgaryactor, both myself and Brian live in the Blue Mountains.  and yes, they are glorious  :).  we do quite a bit of hiking and camping here, never tire of it.   regarding Moose Mtn, I have a feeling that location you mention is the same one in which the darling sheep pees.  it's more or less immediately after the wide, establishing shot of them going up that slope. 

Mme, were you referring to this week?  I might be available tomorrow, depending on daughter's health status.  She's had a vile flu-bronchial thingy this past week and is not yet firing on all four cylinders.  Will check in here later today to see if you've posted.  Otherwise next tues would be good.  Maybe Photon is available too?  That'd be ticketty boo  :).

Big BBM week this week at the house of wolf.  Watching the boys tomorrow night (yes, instead of The Bill  :o) for first time in 3+ weeks  :P :) :D :P, then watching it AGAIN on thurs night with my sister, who's camping here just to watch it with an informed party - it's going to be a very special night methinks - given her recent discombulation after seeing it on a Qantas flight.  So tues will be entirely for me - no hubby at home, kids in bed, lights out, etc etc.  and thurs will be entirely for sis.  She's reuqested something of a 'workshop' to try to make sense of of it all.  I've pretty much developed a standard BBM-Tea-and-Sympathy routine now, so no sweat  :P ;D.

Cheers

W

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on August 06, 2006, 09:24:37 PM

Now once more  I know  what a privilege and a sensational experience would have been watching the DVD my BBM friends.:)






We are a rare and privileged bunch, is all I can say. My daughter-in-law watched my copy and asked when she was supposed to have cried!!!!!!!
If you get it, you get it, and if you don't, well, I hope something comes along at some stage that does it for you.
Fortunately, it does it for everyone on this forum, and it's truly a gift - painful and distressing at times, but a gift.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on August 06, 2006, 11:40:36 PM
Sorry Madameshawshanks and Wolf I would not be able to meet this week but next Tuesday is a possibility. While I have a break from the census at the moment I have to go to training tonight and start collecting on Wednesday. I am not doing it out of the goodness of my heart, they are paying me although I do not think it is worth it at the moment. Have a day of casual teaching on Friday as well so this week is hectic. Have been hiking at Wentworth Falls today.
Yes Calgaryactor, the Blue Mountains are great. I remember travelling by coach from Banff to Calgary in 1997 and stopping at a little place called Canmore and seeing the mountains called The Three Sisters which obviously meant something to me even then  but did not know how important they would become as locations for our favourite film.
Sorry about the work changes Stephen.  Hope all goes well and you can spend more time in OZ.
Am now planning to go to South Island NZ in October- November to search out possible locations for a future move. Have not noticed any Kiwis on this forum.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on August 07, 2006, 01:00:07 AM
hi darlings all...

golly..the news! Stephen Darlin ~ change is life ~ enjoy the days as we here in the Land d'Oz look forward to hugging you again...

Brian 'n Wolfie...next Tuesday..as in 15th...sounds yummy yummy yummy to moi....my people will be in touch with your people as they say in the classics...

ministering angel...yep! it either reaches to the core or it doesn't....that sort of eureka moment I guess...

of our 3 children, 1 has seen it...on a plane and didn't think much of it....another because of a form of homophobia methinks..the other methinks because it might be a challenge...perhaps a little scared in case the accepted rigidity of hetrosexuality is good/anything else is bad might collapse...

doesn't stop me hoping...

life, I've discovered has its own pace....regardless of how much I want to either slow it down or give it a nudge to hurry up....it quietly lets me know that life's pace is simply that...its own...as I have my pace 'n noone else's...

see ya Tuesday b'nw....Lapstone Pub for lunch? either early or late...no matter....our Once Upon a Time party will be over by then ~ a few things to do by Saturday! Sieg has made a rather big pumpkin coach from cardboard...used the wheels of my old bike ...it looks bloody marvellous..will take lots of snaps...I've been given the role of storyteller....a la theatre sports I'll read Thumbelina ~ will sing "The Ugly Duckling" song...a line "and a snowy white back"..a clue my dears to my outfit...(it's dress up of course)...I is going as the swan...all in white (zinc cream face..will leave the nose as a beak)...strips of white pom poms down my back...snowy white back...such style..such class...such fun methinks..

our daughter is making a rather fabulous gingerbread house...all chocolate swirls etc...

ummmmmmmmmm a wee bit to do....so, see ya Tuesday..

hugs...'specially to our old pal Stephen...big hugs buddy boy :)

did you all hear of the no kiss in The Boy from Oz?...seems it was ok in the NYC version...but seemingly tooooooooooooooooooooo bloody confronting for the Sydney Entertainment Centre audience...makes me sick....
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on August 07, 2006, 03:30:40 AM
did you all hear of the no kiss in The Boy from Oz?...seems it was ok in the NYC version...but seemingly tooooooooooooooooooooo bloody confronting for the Sydney Entertainment Centre audience...makes me sick....

Yeah, I'm spitting chips about that also. For crying out loud! is this or is this not a musical about a gay man??? if the audience is expecting otherwise, they need to wake up more than a little!

Stephen, sorry to hear your company has gone pear-shaped on you. Always nasty to be given the bum's rush like that, I hope you'll get a payout as consolation. I had coffee with a friend at the uni today and it sounds like more shenanigans are in the offing there so maybe I got out while the going was good.

Madame, I insist upon a photo of you in your swan rig! it sounds - um - spectacular. :D have fun tomorrow if you and Wolf catch up, and let's see about arranging another one pour moi et Brian! I can't make tomorrow the 8th, there's a seminar I want to attend. My weekend access to the office was supposedly sorted out today so I should be able to keep up with the forum a little better now.

Poor Campfire. I think we all have had similar experiences of being disappointed in our friends' responses. But at least there are people out there besides us who feel as they ought. I went to the Chauvel screening last week and it was the most respectful audience since, well, probably since my first viewing. Much sniffing and quiet sobbing from the final argument scene onward and instead of the usual rush to get out at the end nobody moved during the credits. I entered the cinema behind a very old couple, in their 70s or even 80s, and knowing how conservative old people usually are I wondered if they knew what the film was about. As I left I saw the woman in tears and even the man looking distressed, would love to know their story. As a bonus the cinema's new sound system is excellent, every sound, note and word was clear as a bell. It made some of the screenings I've been to seem like I was listening through cottonwool.

I was pawing through some old papers and found a newspaper clipping from February: BBM was being credited with making big moustaches acceptable again! I wonder. Just 'cause gorgeous Jake could carry off the look doesn't mean I want to be surrounded by other men trying to...

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on August 07, 2006, 05:05:37 AM
how I love this bunch!!!

hugs...'n the swan photo WILL be posted..no bloody laughing either..
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on August 08, 2006, 10:19:34 AM
G'day g'dayers,

Right across (*)  the street from my (ex-)office and the hotel I stay at when I'm here, is a surprisingly good Italian restaurant.  Best pasta in North America as far as I'm concerned, and I frequent the Italian areas of SF and Boston looking for food.

Anyway, my colleague (also fired last week) was on a plane back from somewhere a couple of weeks ago, and the guy sitting next to him tells him out-of-the-blue that Larry McMurtry goes to this restaurant often.  Not too often, I guess, because I go there a *lot* because I can walk home if I indulge in a glass or two of Barolo.

Last night I went there early and there he was!  With a couple of young people (no idea), very scruffy indeed, but definitely him.  I asked my favorite waitress if indeed it was Larry, and she said he comes in every night.  (Apparently, he goes to a Malaysian restaurant those days when the Italian place is closed.)

I didn't speak to him.  I'd like to, but he has his privacy too.  made my day!

-- stephen
(*) In Tucson, "right across the street" means quite a trek.  They don't believe in pathways here.  Everyone drives everywhere.  So this trek involves a detour through a parking lot, a scramble up to the gas station (one time there was a rattlesnake!), a wait for ever until the light changes, a dash across six lanes--twice--and then across anoyther parking lot.  It seems easier on the way home, but I think that has to do with the Barolo :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on August 08, 2006, 08:11:36 PM
They don't believe in pathways here.  Everyone drives everywhere.  So this trek involves a detour through a parking lot, a scramble up to the gas station (one time there was a rattlesnake!), a wait for ever until the light changes, a dash across six lanes--twice--and then across anoyther parking lot.  It seems easier on the way home, but I think that has to do with the Barolo :)

Stephen, I remember reading about this phenomenon in one of Bill Bryson's books.   I recall his lengthy and very funny tirade sounding very similar to your description of trekking 'across the street'.  mad dashes across six lanes and all.  had a good chuckle at the bold bit too  ;).

Egads, man - you 'almost met' Saint Larry!.  I had palpitations just thinking of you being so close to one of the prophets  :P.  I say his privacy be damned next time you see him there - shake the man's hand and buy him a Barolo!

So next tuesday for lunch at the Lappo is it, Mme Swan?  How's about 11am to get a good head start on the chat  :).  Brain, look forward to meeting you!

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on August 09, 2006, 01:46:20 AM
'n here I was thinking Brain's name was Brian..silly moi!

yep...11am it is...Brain aka Brian...doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo dooooooooooooooo hope you can make it! we can then be a merry little trio...

Stephen...ye gods..SIX lanes!!!!!!!!!! take care...enjoy the drinks..

you're a sweet soul for considering Larry's privacy....yep, you're a sweet soul...

Pasta Man I'll think of ye..

hugs pals
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on August 09, 2006, 07:26:37 AM
Hi  Madame, Wolf and Brian,

Please have a cafe latte for me  when you get together :)

Hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on August 09, 2006, 09:02:10 AM
Stephen, I remember reading about this phenomenon in one of Bill Bryson's books.   I recall his lengthy and very funny tirade sounding very similar to your description of trekking 'across the street'.  mad dashes across six lanes and all.  had a good chuckle at the bold bit too  ;).

Egads, man - you 'almost met' Saint Larry!.  I had palpitations just thinking of you being so close to one of the prophets  :P.  I say his privacy be damned next time you see him there - shake the man's hand and buy him a Barolo!
Saw St L again last night, eating on his own.  Decided to leave him alone again, though it was close.

I'm a big Bill Bryson fan, and love his writing style.  The description in Down Under of being chased by hounds climbing over a wall into some woman's garden as she was preparing dinner had me rolling on the floor laughing.

My favorite line of his is when he's reading on a train in Notes From a Small Island and some tweedy old guy starts explaining that the train was made in '48 because they switched from hexagonal to octagonal bolts in '47 was priceless. The paragraph is all very polite then Bryson switches into saltier language "with a look that invited him to fuck off" so suddenly you can't help but chuckle.

Off the BBQ tomorrow.  Drive 850 miles through West Texas.  And back....  But they wanted US$500 by air.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on August 09, 2006, 07:52:51 PM
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Saw St L again last night, eating on his own.  Decided to leave him alone again, though it was close.

I'm a big Bill Bryson fan, and love his writing style.  The description in Down Under of being chased by hounds climbing over a wall into some woman's garden as she was preparing dinner had me rolling on the floor laughing.

My favorite line of his is when he's reading on a train in Notes From a Small Island and some tweedy old guy starts explaining that the train was made in '48 because they switched from hexagonal to octagonal bolts in '47 was priceless. The paragraph is all very polite then Bryson switches into saltier language "with a look that invited him to fuck off" so suddenly you can't help but chuckle.

Off the BBQ tomorrow.  Drive 850 miles through West Texas.  And back....  But they wanted US$500 by air.
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Mr Mellor, I like the cut of your jib!  Bill Bryson is close to being my favourite read.  I've read all his books, including his scholarly works "Mother Tongue" et al.  Of all his funnies tho, my favourite is "A Walk In The Woods".  Something about the pairing of his droll self and his old mate, Katz, that's just hysterical when applied to something as incongruous (for them, at least) as the Appalachian Trail.  Do remember well, though, the bit you quoted from Down Under.  Had the same effect on me, I recall.  Much floor rolling merriment  ;D ;D.  Remember the tweedy chap and his bolts too!  Actually I've just re-read (for the umpteenth time) A Big Country.  Such lovely, short but hysterical pieces about life in the US. 

Incidentally, if you enjoy Bryson, you may well also be a fan of Redmond O'Hanlon.  If not, search him out and give him a try.   He's an exceedingly eccentric British boffin (Ornithologist, originally) who goes on hairbrained adventures with all manner of misfits and tearaways, in difficult and uncomfortable corners of the planet.  His books are frequently pant-wettingly funny  :-\.

Have a safe trip across country, m'dear.   I envy you the car trip across such interesting states, by the way.  Rather that than fly (at such expense especially) any day.  Have a wonderful time at the BBQ and report back with all the gossip asap  :).  And for the record, HOW COOL seeing St Larry again.  Wonder how long it'll be before you cave and say somink  :P 8).  I'm sure that he'd not be horribly offended by a polite word of appreciation from a civil fellow like yourself  ;).  Takes a bit of nerve tho, what!

Cheers to all

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on August 10, 2006, 08:54:30 AM
Thanks for the tip on Redmond O'Hanlon.  I'll search him out.

Do not believe that West Texas is an interesting state!  Think driving the Nullabor with mountains.

Personally, I'd rather fly (a good thing since I generally rack up 100,000 miles/year) than drive, but I'm looking forward to just spending some time with my thoughts after the latest turmoil in my life.  That, and the over-reaction to the latest terrorist amusement in London.  I just about gave up expecting any sense from these people when I saw them patting down a (screaming) three-year old last year.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: tfferg on August 12, 2006, 12:55:32 AM
Hey! Don't knock the  Nullarbor!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on August 13, 2006, 10:07:23 PM
Mme S and Brian,

well, as expected, I've come down with the putrid flu-ey thing the kids had last week.  actually has just kicked in today, while at Springwood pool of all places  :-\.  Pounding head, fever, sore throat, the works.

very sorry to say I'll have to take a rain check on lunch anytime this week - can't see meself getting better before I get worse, as it were.  really am pissed off about not getting together with you two, as it happens.  Have just had a gander at the daily sheet and came away with a warm fuzzy after seeing the pics of all the various get togethers happening (even spotted Mr Mellor in the BBQ pic).  made me more aware than ever how precious this community is. 

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on August 13, 2006, 10:12:30 PM
Sorry about that Wolf. You really should get an injection next year. it is not just for us oldies ;D
As a teacher librarian with my head always down at the computer near the kids I had the flu every year until one day about 7 years ago I took Mum for her flu shot and decided to have one myself. Have not had the flu since.
Look after yourself.  Tuesday week I will have to be back at Blaxland by 1pm but we can still meet early.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on August 14, 2006, 05:06:06 AM
Sorry to hear about your flu, Wolf.

And campfire, I fully comprehend about the dvd showing. Out of the 12 people that I watched the dvd with, NONE of them had the same reaction that I did. I got told I cried at the wrong parts, it 'wasnt all that sad' oh, I could go on and on. SO frustrating. Did any of you catch up on the bbq thread? Sounds like an amazing time was had by all.

On an exciting note, I fly out on Wednesday, despite the scary restrictions of no duty free and no lap top to the States, to meet up with about 15 buddies from the forum, namely the Slash thread, in LA, NY and SF.

I am so thrilled and am eagerly looking forward to it, as I speak to these wonderful people every day and feel I know them better then some of my best friends.  :)
The most important thing is that they were moved just as much by this incredible movie.

So cheers to all and wish me luck with my 15 hour flight, mates!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on August 14, 2006, 07:37:17 PM
Thanks Brian, next tues early lunch sounds great.  Incidentally I think you're right about the flu jab.  I've been getting it every winter since the kids started bringing it home.  Hubby too. 

Happy travels Lolita!  Give 'em all a big Ennis-like bear hug from us, and have a fabulous time.  BTW, wow, very impressed you managed to watch the DVD with 12 people!  I'm still trawling through the archives to find people I think I can legitimatelly 'inflict' it on with raising too much amway-style suspicion  ;D.

Cheers to all

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on August 18, 2006, 04:46:10 PM
I just voted on the book poll that I would buy one softcover of this book that is being published. Then  I read down and found it can only be shipped to Canada and Europe.  Very disappointing. I wonder if Stephen can suggest anything or one of the moderators. Perhaps we could arrange a bulk shipment to Australia then distribute it internally.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: jack on August 18, 2006, 07:28:05 PM
brian.. it might be "pricey" but i imagine for the truly devoted combining shipping into one bulk purchase seems managable.  i am sure someone on this end will volunteer to do that. a little research ought to produce the data on which location is best suited, perhaps near the publisher for a pick up to avoid further charges.  if not, we have an awful lot of helpful people one of whom would certaqinly volunteer to handle this end.  do not despair.  please write pete about this.  feel free to enclose my unsolicited comment.  i am sure it can be worked out somehow, if the cost does not become prohibitive for you all...

jack
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on August 20, 2006, 07:36:27 PM
Monday Morning Greetings!

Brian and Mme S, how do we stand for lunch tomorrow?  I'm good to go (tho with young kids in the picture anything is possible  :-\).

I'll check in tomorrow morning and see if either of you have posted.

Meantime, have a warm, sunny and happy day, all  :).

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on August 21, 2006, 01:04:09 AM
Brian and Mme S, how do we stand for lunch tomorrow?  I'm good to go (tho with young kids in the picture anything is possible  :-\).

I'll check in tomorrow morning and see if either of you have posted.
W
I am still happy to meet remembering that I have to be back at Blaxland by 1pm. I will PM you
Thought I should let Aussies know that there was discussion elsewhere about how slow the Forum is just after midnight in the States apparently due to the computer backing up. I have experienced this and did so again this afternoon when I wanted to reply to this message except here in Oz it is about 3pm EST.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on August 21, 2006, 05:46:44 PM
Brian,

I'm all set for 11am-ish.  Had remembered yr Blaxland appt  ;). 

Will be quite the novelty, going to a pub - don't think I've set foot in one for about 20 yrs!  Looking forward to that, and to meeting your good self  :).

Do hope Mme S sees this and is able to come along.  Would love to meet up with you again, J!

W (aka, P)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on August 22, 2006, 02:08:47 AM
We have a New Zealander in Rosa who I've suggested should post here. Methinks the Haere Mae thread would be a bit slender. How about we send her a bit of encouragement? I'm an ex-sort-of-NZer, btw.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on August 22, 2006, 06:10:27 PM
Would be great to have Kiwis join us although naming the thread G'Day-Haere mae might be a bit of a mouthful :)
Am going to NZ in late October with one aim to research possible home for the future in Dunedin area.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on August 23, 2006, 06:26:22 AM
Darlings all...a few days down south...nowhere near a computer....hectic...and different....'nuff said at the moment methinks....

Wolfie 'n Brian....hope ya feasted well at Lapstone....

funny sorts of days at the moment...weird funny.....I can find myself in such places...

guess ya can all sense a "oh my this is a different madame"....yep, not wrong there...

when I'm blank I is not all that much fun ....

thought I'd pop in to say hi dee hoe....

'n give hugs.....this forum is a special place....makes me smile it does....hugs...on the go for a few days more...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on August 24, 2006, 06:52:58 AM
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Poor Campfire. I think we all have had similar experiences of being disappointed in our friends' responses. But at least there are people out there besides us who feel as they ought. I went to the Chauvel screening last week and it was the most respectful audience since, well, probably since my first viewing. Much sniffing and quiet sobbing from the final argument scene onward and instead of the usual rush to get out at the end nobody moved during the credits...As a bonus the cinema's new sound system is excellent, every sound, note and word was clear as a bell.
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bit of a delayed response - I don't often make it to this thread and have only lurked before - but I just wanted to give a belated wave to photondancer. I was also at that Chauvel screening and must admit to looking around and wondering if anyone was there that I "knew" from this forum  ;)

I'll own up - a fair bit of that quiet sobbing was probably coming from me :-[ . I hadn't seen the film for over 3 months, and I was curious to see if the break would diminish the impact - if I might somehow have "gotten over it". Of course I hadn't, and the film hit me as hard as ever, and so here I am, 8 months after my first viewing - still spending far too much time haunting this site. Still, I've yet to meet anyone in my real life who saw the same film that I did, if you know what I mean, which is why I am talking to you now!

Who else would understand how good it is to catch Ennis' "look what I brought, gonna fix em just the way I used to" and Jack's coyote-roping musings during the second camping trip, for only the second time in eleven screenings  :) And you probably won't think there's something odd about seeing the same film eleven times in the first place!!

I thought I would never see BBM in all its big-screen glory again, so that screening was a lovely surprise. Not sure if anyone stayed to watch Geisha though - once Rufus finished the Maker Makes and the screen went black I know I was outta there and sniffling my way back down Oxford Street with the Wings playing on my ipod.....

ok. Now I've broken my vow of lurkerdom! That wasn't so painful after all.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on August 24, 2006, 07:39:39 AM
Hi Kazinoz!

Don't worry, I lurked for a while too before I plucked up the courage to post.  You'll find us a friendly lot!! ;D
Title: Re: G'day from Brizvegas!
Post by: BBM-Intern on August 24, 2006, 07:48:48 AM
Hello all you lovely people,

I only caught the end of "Foreign Correspondent" tonight, it was on the religious right trying to push reparative therapy / ex-gay ministries.  Guess what, someone at good ol' Aunty must love BBM, they used "I will never let you go" and the twangy opening theme, complete with imagery of two hunky cowboys riding together off into the sunset!  Woo-hoo!  Just search on the ABC website and you should find the archived version soon, I tried looking and it wasn't posted yet.

Also to let you know that the Brisbane Lesbian and Gay Pride Choir did sing "A Love That Will Never Grow Old" at the Ekka (Royal Brisbane Show) recently, not as part of the official performance, but they did it at a bar and it was well received.  Must see if they'll sing it again somewhere else, perhaps end of year concert?

No withdrawal symptoms from me, when I miss them boys, all I need to do is fire up my PDA and watch one of the chapters of the film, it's wonderful that way too.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on August 24, 2006, 09:13:48 PM
brianr, Dunedin is a lovely spot. My Dad lives just south of there.

BBM-Intern, saw Foreign Correspondent and felt so sad that our boys couldn't have turned into podgy cowboys (Jack anyway - Ennis would remain skinny) and get to hold hands and ride off into the sunset.

I noticed the ABC used BBM music on Gardening Australia once!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on August 27, 2006, 01:58:26 AM
bit of a delayed response - I don't often make it to this thread and have only lurked before - but I just wanted to give a belated wave to photondancer. I was also at that Chauvel screening and must admit to looking around and wondering if anyone was there that I "knew" from this forum  ;)

Hi Kazinoz! also a bit of a delayed response - I glanced at this forum on Friday but only the last page, so missed your post. I also wondered if there were any forum lurkers at the screening, and yearned for the courage to stand up and ask. Then I realised I should've brought a piece of paper advertising this forum to stick by the cinema door or something. Just as well I'm not in marketing or PR, I'm obviously not cut out for it.

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so here I am, 8 months after my first viewing - still spending far too much time haunting this site.

Hm. I'm not sure that one can "spend too much time" here. :-)

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Who else would understand how good it is to catch Ennis' "look what I brought, gonna fix em just the way I used to" and Jack's coyote-roping musings during the second camping trip, for only the second time in eleven screenings  :) And you probably won't think there's something odd about seeing the same film eleven times in the first place!!

I know what you mean: so much happens in the film that I am still picking up details and I would've seen it over a dozen times (I stopped counting once I bought the DVD). Some things I've only seen after reading about them on this forum, like the beans line you quote above. I remember on my 5th or 6th viewing for the first time observing the little scene where Ennis goes to help Jack carry a large log (just before "this tent don't look right") and was so astounded at not having seen it before that I seriously wondered if there were 2 different cuts of the film in circulation...Coyote-roping musings? good grief. I know this is in the script, but I have managed to miss it in the film. Out with the DVD tonight!

I bought the 'collectors edition' Donnie Darko DVD today. It has both the original and director's cut versions and a disc of extras. I've seen both versions but so many years apart I no longer recalled the original clearly enough to see what had changed. Looks like I've got quite a few hours of watching Jake ahead of me, oh my! :-) Also a couple of weeks ago I, possibly foolishly, decided it was time to wade into the mammoth Jake's Eyelashes thread and even though 90% of it is guff (or squeeing as our american friends like to call it) it still takes time away from other activities (like keeping up with my fellow G'Dayers). After a couple of weeks I'm barely 10% into the first thread, and they're up to number 4! But I was mightily tickled to see a post from MellorSJ in there!

Speaking of whom what's happening Stephen? I've not yet had a chance to look at the photos of the bbq, or perhaps I'm just too envious that I wasn't there. Have you left the states?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on August 28, 2006, 04:52:43 AM
 :) 'evening all...one and...'specially the lurkers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

come on board...this is a gorgeous bunch of people...diverse...loving...witty....generous....'n lovable...

with the oh so precious thread of a connection, in whatever way, to Brokeback Mountain...

fingers crossed that Brian 'n Wolfie will be at Glenbrook tomorrow...iced chocolate whatever the weather? you bloody bet!

spent time in Melb...however the days 'n nights were so jam-packed...and dare I say it...UN Brokebacky....I decided to do the jam-pack stuff....there will, I'm sure, be other Melb times ;)

imagining us all...posters and scrumptious lurkers alike...sitting at a round table...comfy chairs...liquid of choice...perhaps a fire....warming...Stephen back from his travels of course...he, the master of ceremonies...wadda ya reckon....Brian 'n photodancer..Stephen as mofc?

how about we get our minds into 2007....a meeting somewhere...The Alice? :).......somewhere...time for thought..

hugs 'n love to all...come on you beloved lurkers....come and join us....
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on August 28, 2006, 11:47:44 AM
Hey there!

I'm still in the US, trying to cope with moving stuff out of my office, and prepare for a life with a bit less work.

Going to the UK eithe Sept 15 or Sept 27 until October 16, then Japan and SUMMER!  (Not that's it's winter here :) )

Enjoying myself, but--and this freaks me out a bit--I'm busier than ever!  Lots of things to arrange....

Gotta go.  Enjoy spring...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on August 28, 2006, 03:03:00 PM
lovely to hear from you Mr Stephen...busy eh! ;)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on August 28, 2006, 11:00:37 PM
I know what you mean: so much happens in the film that I am still picking up details and I would've seen it over a dozen times (I stopped counting once I bought the DVD).  .....I bought the 'collectors edition' Donnie Darko DVD today. It has both the original and director's cut versions and a disc of extras. I've seen both versions but so many years apart I no longer recalled the original clearly enough to see what had changed. Also a couple of weeks ago I, possibly foolishly, decided it was time to wade into the mammoth Jake's Eyelashes thread ... After a couple of weeks I'm barely 10% into the first thread, and they're up to number 4!

Isn't it funny, the little moments that jump out – I love that “what the hell..?” look Ennis gives Jack at the bar as he's waffling on about the dead sheep, and Alma Junior running her hand down Ennis’s back at the Thanksgiving dinner, such a sweet gesture. It really is a rewarding film – the more you watch it, the more you see, and how rarely does that happen?

For various reasons, (some cowardly – visions of me weeping profusely on the lounge once stripped of the need to behave properly in public, and my husband already thinks I’m bonkers ;D) I don't have the dvd yet. I know conversion to the PAL format results in a slightly reduced running time – can anyone tell me if it is at all noticeable? The film already goes by too quickly for me - I couldn't bear it if it really seems shorter!  :-[ And most importantly, can you still see Ennis’s campfire on a tv screen? Jack, in his dark camp, saw Ennis as night fire, a red spark on the huge black mass of mountain (oh, that line….)
 
I know what you mean, Photondancer, about Eyelashes – the ‘squeeing’ can reach painful heights, but it’s the price you pay for the lovely ...er… scenery. Don’t give up! It takes patience (and an awful lot of high-speed scrolling) but it can be done. You’ll also find that the same pictures pop up over and over so you can whizz through surprisingly quickly. And if Eyelashes gets too much, there’s always Planet Heath, which I find moves at a much more manageable pace! It’s so hard to keep on top of things in this forum - never enough time, never enough!

I’d be interested in what you think about the director’s cut version of Donnie Darko once you’ve had a chance to refresh your memory – I’ve only seen the original, but have read that the director’s cut makes the mistake of trying to explain things better left to the imagination. With films like that I’m happy to go along for the ride – understanding what the hell is going on is an optional extra!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on August 29, 2006, 08:38:31 PM
Howdy to Kazinoz  :). 

pull up a log, have a cup a coffee, piece a cherry cake.  or some beans and whiskey - whatever you prefer! 

another howdy to Photon, ffrn and Mr Busy Mellor. 

no howdy for Brian and Mme S, since I had the very great pleasure of howdying you both in person yesterday  :) ;D :).  thanks again for taking time out, and for your warm and wonderful company.  could have stayed and talked the legs off chairs til the cows (or sheep) came home, easy peasy.  never enough time, never enough. 

speaking of which, Mme S, 2007 looks good for a grand old AGM.  Alice could be good.  nicely exotic and removed from our RLs.  I was thinking about somewhere Brokebackish, such as we have on this warm continent.  So many places we saw during our visit to the Snowies in April brought the boys to mind.  The place really resonated for me.  The cold, the mtns, the crystal clear rivers etc.  there's a 'resort' just inside the gates to the national park (via Jindabyne) called "Sawpit Creek" that struck me as a possible contender.  it has lovely, very Brokebacky campsites, cabins with all the comforts, and a fast flowing stream.  And of course, mountains!  could quite see us all gathering there for a few days in the colder months - campfires, stories, the boys, maybe even a little snow - lovely  :). 

cheers all, and welcome again to Kazinoz.

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on August 29, 2006, 10:06:08 PM
hi gang!

what a scrumptious time at Glenbrook...the wonder of it all!

'n mention must be make of the magnificent iced chocolate made for me...when I say "I love chocolate"..that ain't no flippant comment...that's for real...so my drink was as chocolatey as possible...divine..

and the company? delightful...

ummmmmmmmm 2007...a gathering sounds wonderful eh! let's start imagining...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on August 29, 2006, 10:12:18 PM
Hi all.
Kazinoz - the shorter running time isn't noticeable. Get the DVD for heaven's sake. Life is too short to waste time not watching BBM. Yes, the campfire is there (and hello to Campfire too)
Madame S - wasn't there a birthday there somewhere?  Happy birthday to you. 2007 sounds such a good idea. I guess we'll all still be nuts by then. Autumn in the Snowies sounds lovely. Or Vic's north-east? That's my love of Ned Kelly coming out.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on August 30, 2006, 09:27:34 PM
BBM Intern, had meant to say yesterday that Mme S and Brian talked about that piece on Foreign Correspondent.  Apparently the head nutjob had 'iss-yooz'.  why am I not surprised  :-\.

Howdy Angel-Pants, Ned K country would also be perfect.  Lordy me, we have so many fitting spots up and down the east side ... we'd probably end up needing to have a ballot or something!

Cheers all, I'm off to read a bit of Heath/Jake fanfic  :P.

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on August 30, 2006, 09:52:20 PM
Get the DVD for heaven's sake.

Yes, ma’am!  Right away ma’am :) I may never leave the house again once I’ve got it though…By the way, I’ve enjoyed your posts on the scene-by-scene threads, and recently found your fics as well. South of Childress, Going Nowhere hit me where it hurts, I thought it was very nicely done.

Wolf and everyone else– thanks for the welcome. I will have a coffee, but I can’t eat no cake right now  :) Sawpit Creek is a lovely spot. My husband and I camped there a few years ago (nearly froze to death overnight - in November!) Lots of friendly possums who’ll try to climb into your esky given half a chance…..

Karen
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on August 31, 2006, 07:59:17 PM
Wolf and everyone else– thanks for the welcome. I will have a coffee, but I can’t eat no cake right now  :) Sawpit Creek is a lovely spot. My husband and I camped there a few years ago (nearly froze to death overnight - in November!) Lots of friendly possums who’ll try to climb into your esky given half a chance…..

Karen


so, Karen, sounds as though we'd need LOTS of coffee and whiskey if we were to stay at Sawpit during the colder months  :o ;D.  you forget how cold the Snowies gets, even in summer!  then again, suppose it'd give us a nice taste of how things were for Ennis and Jack  :).  happy DVD shopping, by the way.

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on September 01, 2006, 12:58:08 AM
Get the DVD for heaven's sake.

Yes, ma’am!  Right away ma’am :) I may never leave the house again once I’ve got it though…By the way, I’ve enjoyed your posts on the scene-by-scene threads, and recently found your fics as well. South of Childress, Going Nowhere hit me where it hurts, I thought it was very nicely done.


I see absolutely nothing wrong with spending the rest of your life inside the house watching BBM. Sounds like masochist's heaven to me. I just dash out occasionally to buy more supplies of tissues.
And thank you kindly for the comments re. my fiction. I love writing it.

And Wolf - Angel-Pants?? :o Some of that Heath/Jake stuff is....well, let's say I'm  :o :o :o  ;)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on September 03, 2006, 09:33:16 PM
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And Wolf - Angel-Pants?? :o Some of that Heath/Jake stuff is....well, let's say I'm  :o :o :o  ;)
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sorry my dear, I have a long-term habit of name-abuse  :-[.  Just ask Joanikins  :P.

lordy me, is the Heath/Jake stuff saucier than the Ennis/Jack stuff?  I assumed it'll all be much of a muchness.  mind you, saucy is just fine by me, so long as I don't read it immediately prior to a pastoral care meeting or similar  ;D.

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on September 03, 2006, 09:44:23 PM
I guess it's saucier by dint of the fact that it's RPS, a genre I have a little difficulty with - but just a little. Damn, there goes my reputation - again.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 03, 2006, 10:18:39 PM
Hi All...
I'm a newbie to this forum - which I found only a week or so ago. It's exactly what I've been looking for since watching BBM for the first time. I've also just stumbled across the "G'day" thread thankfully - as I live in Perth, WA. I'll have a good "read" of this thread over the next few days and hopefully there are some other Brokaholics on this side of the Nullarbor, as I'd love to attend a get-together at some stage. Looking forward to participating on this forum with all you lovely people
Love, Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on September 04, 2006, 12:55:48 AM
Welcome Luke to the G'day thread.
Have quickly read through your other posts and see how BBM has affected you so much and can tell you that you have so many friends on this forum, many of us having had similar past life experiences. Sorry you are on the other side of the country from most of us but we are talking about meeting up in the Alice someday :). Your comment about having had contact with Heath would make you so popular in the Heath thread.
Hope to hear more from you
Brian
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 04, 2006, 06:15:54 PM
Thanks Brian

Even though I live in Perth, I regularly visit the eastern states as I have family in the Sydney and Newcastle areas. I'd definitely be interested in an "Alice" gathering. btw, the connections with Heath were secondhand... my son and my boss!. Hope to catch up some day.
 
...Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on September 05, 2006, 08:46:57 PM
Welcome Luke!

Very nice to see a new name or two cropping up on the thread  :).  I don't know how to read a person's prior threads, but look forward to figuring it out and reading yours! 

When did you first see the movie?  Have you seen it umpteen times like so many of us, or have you stopped at one or two?  So many questions!

Angel, funny, I have a problem with the Ennis/Jack fanfic, but not the Heath/Jake.  I guess in my fevered imagninings, it's remotely possible that some of it (as in, Heath and Jake stuff) could/did occur.  Whereas Ennis/Jack is fiction on fiction, so to speak.  Further, I feel strongly about the sacredness of their story and feel uncomfortable even reading the book sometimes - which is patently ridiculous  :-[.

Dang, electricity bloke here to do some fiddling about - must log off.  back soon.

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on September 05, 2006, 11:46:31 PM
Wolf, you get into a poster's profile (click  on their name) and scroll to the bottom where there's a link to their past postings.
And yes, welcome, Luke. The more the merrier.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 06, 2006, 02:47:34 AM
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And yes, welcome, Luke. The more the merrier.

Thanks Ministering Angel - seeing you on this "internationa"l area, are you located in Australia? I'm just wondering if there is anyone besides myself here in Perth, WA!

Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on September 06, 2006, 04:55:04 AM
G'day to everyone and Hi! *waves to lurkers*

I just wanted to check in and tell everyone that I got back from my Meet the BBM Slash members from the States. I have been back a few weeks but was just so moved and overwhelmed that I have been lost for words... I went to LA, NY and SF...meet about 20 forum members total. It was the most incredible experience...these people are so warm and loving...just took me into their heart and home. We could talk BBM and slash for hours, they  shared  their laptops, apartments, chocolate port! We stayed up till 4am as a given, so much to say... :)
I felt such a strong and spiritual connection with each and everyone of these people...I know that I have made friends for life. :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on September 06, 2006, 06:31:45 AM
Thanks Angel, did what you suggested and read up on 'our' Luke  :). 

Luke, was great to read your story.  Was moved to tears in parts, and feel a bit sorry you didn't find us sooner.  It must have been difficult carrying this 'thing' (as Ennis would say) all those months with no outlet.   Hope you decide to stick around!

Welcome home, Lolita  :D.  Sounds like it was a powerful and life changing trip for you, you lucky gal!  We're all deeply envious of your attendance at the get-togethers, so give us some vicarious satisfaction with some anecdotes in the coming weeks  :P.

Have just realised it's 10.30 pm  :o.  WELL past my bed-time.  Kids have vile coughs at the moment so it's been a week of as good as nil sleep for the mater and the pater.  Was going to have a quick taste of Ennis and Jack via the good offices of youtube, but those things take SO long to load, I'll have to raincheck the boys - phooey!

night all
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 06, 2006, 08:48:34 PM

Luke, was great to read your story.  Was moved to tears in parts, and feel a bit sorry you didn't find us sooner.  It must have been difficult carrying this 'thing' (as Ennis would say) all those months with no outlet.   Hope you decide to stick around!


Thanks Wolf. I'm sure that when we read "stories" by anyone that's found this place we'll be moved to tears - depending on how much that person permits themselves to "tell". This forum itself is a beautiful spin-off from a beautiful movie - so glad I've found you all.
Hope yr kids coughs get better soon
...Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 06, 2006, 09:06:44 PM
G'day to everyone and Hi! *waves to lurkers*

I just wanted to check in and tell everyone that I got back from my Meet the BBM Slash members from the States. I have been back a few weeks but was just so moved and overwhelmed that I have been lost for words... I went to LA, NY and SF...meet about 20 forum members total. It was the most incredible experience...these people are so warm and loving...just took me into their heart and home. We could talk BBM and slash for hours, they  shared  their laptops, apartments, chocolate port! We stayed up till 4am as a given, so much to say... :)
I felt such a strong and spiritual connection with each and everyone of these people...I know that I have made friends for life. :)

Hi Lolita, You're a lucky girl - I'd love to do the "States" trip and meet those lovely Yanks too! As I read yr short message I could almost "feel" that sense of being overwhelmed - half yr luck!!
That "strong and spiritual connection ...." you felt in the US is how I felt when I connected to this forum and got my first few replies. This is quite a unique phenomenon going on here. It feels very "real" and somehow replaces that sense of community that's almost disappeared.

I've been thinking of a place for an Australian-BBM get-together since I discovered the G'day thread. I used to go horseriding in the Megalong Valley (off the Great Western Hwy from Blackheath in the Blue Mountains). It's a magnificant ride. Even if yr not into horses - as is the case with lots of people who go there. They have very Brokeback-type (rough and ready) accommodation with fireplaces and campsites. We used to stay overnight then saddle-up early for a 3 to 4 hour ride thru rugged terrain, as you can imagine in the mountains - to a campsite by the Cox's River where we'd have a BBQ, a rest and then the ride back to base by a slightly easier route. Think about it - and any other people reading this post. The name of the outfit was called "PackSaddlers" (hope they're still around) - I'll check it out before my next post and if anyone's interested I'll try to include photos of us riding there. Even if it doesn't happen with people from this forum, I'm thinking of experiencing it again with one of my kids next time I'm in the area.
...Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on September 07, 2006, 06:10:01 AM
I guess it's saucier by dint of the fact that it's RPS, a genre I have a little difficulty with - but just a little. Damn, there goes my reputation - again.


*hugs Angel, confesses to sharing sharing same feelings...just a little... ;)*
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on September 07, 2006, 06:13:19 AM
Thanks guys...strange as it may seem, it feels like I have been going through a kind of almost grieving process since coming back...I just never expected to find such wonderful people and to have such a connection...I mean, these are people that I have spoken to nearly every day for the last 6 months...but somehow, I didnt know that it would be SO intense or so hard to leave them.

I hope that I can attend one in Australia... :) Its funny....I never had even heard of Slash until this forum....never even joined a forum! *shakes head in disbelief*
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 07, 2006, 02:25:41 PM
Its funny....I never had even heard of Slash until this forum....never even joined a forum! *shakes head in disbelief*

Pardon my ignorance - but what is "slash"

Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on September 07, 2006, 02:46:28 PM
Its funny....I never had even heard of Slash until this forum....never even joined a forum! *shakes head in disbelief*

Pardon my ignorance - but what is "slash"

Luke

If your ignorant..so was I.. :) It is pairing of Jack and Ennis in stories...either 'canon' - sticking as close as possible to the theme of the novella or the movie...or 'AU' where they end up happily together....or even separate reality...different eras...Here is the Slash Thread link...it is in Juicy bits...There is a discussion thread and we even have our own bar now... ;D There are two Slash Brokeback Mountain Communities...Wranglers and BBM Slash. It helped when I was grieving to read about our boys happy... :)

http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?board=39.0

And the slash links with authors list....http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=4664.0

If you want some recommendations I would be happy to help you.... :) Or just jump in and say hi!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 07, 2006, 03:05:51 PM
Thanks Lolita. Sounds interesting - I'll check that out soon.
Been on this for hours tonight already. Off to tent - too tired.
Btw when do you think we might see a get-together in Australia

Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on September 07, 2006, 03:44:13 PM
Where abouts do you live? I am on the Gold Coast, QLD...

I know that a lot of the people on this thread live in Sydney...or the Blue Mountains, how about you? :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on September 07, 2006, 09:49:35 PM
Lolita, sorry to hear you're missing your friends so much.  Hope we can keep go some way to cheering you up, while you set about planning the next trip!  Was interested to read you and Angel are not especially keen on Heath/Jake fanfic, preferring Ennis/Jack.  I guess the majority of Brokies like to see more of the boys as we know them - makes perfect sense. 

Luke, when I read your post about Megalong Valley I went like this  :o :o :o.  Would you believe that two of our number actually live in the Blue Mountains.  Not only that, but we've actually discussed the possibility of a 2 or 3 day horse trek as a likely contender for our ultimate get-together.  We were thinking high country Victoria, but Packsaddlers (yes, they're still there!) would be perfect.  I'm a rider myself, and I know at least one other casual G'dayer is, so there's two who know one end of a horse from the other - not a bad start  :P.  Would we have to eat beans every meal, do ya think?  :D. 

The thing with something like this is that there are so many really superb locations in this wonderful country to do it - at the end of the day I suppose it'll just be whatever is the most doable for the largest number.   and then of course, there's the additional question of when  :-\. 

Cheers to all, have a great weekend.  How many of us will watch the movie this weekend, I wonder ........ be fun to all watch it simultaneously one day or night, and discuss it the following day  :).

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on September 07, 2006, 09:56:32 PM
OMG...Wolf that sounds SO perfect....a horseback riding trek! I just LOVE the idea of it!!

Seriously, when where you thinking of the plan re time?

Just that I am sooo keen to be back in the States for a week in early Jan...and have a young daughter...

I just love the idea though... :) just brilliant!

RE the movie...that would be so cool if we all watched it at the same time and got on the thread for discussion....Im in if anyone else is!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on September 07, 2006, 10:05:15 PM
I know one end of a horse from the other. One end bites and the other end kicks. I'd love to go horse-riding, although I'd look like the little girl in - was it Ronald Searle's books? You know, short fat pony, short fat rider.
Luke, I'm in Melbourne btw
Lolita - are you my compatriot? If so (and even if you're not), let me say I'm working up to my grand finale - the fanfic which will use up Australia's supplies of Kleenex! Did you meet Kumari?? Her stuff..... ;)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on September 07, 2006, 10:28:19 PM
I know one end of a horse from the other. One end bites and the other end kicks. I'd love to go horse-riding, although I'd look like the little girl in - was it Ronald Searle's books? You know, short fat pony, short fat rider.
Luke, I'm in Melbourne btw
Lolita - are you my compatriot? If so (and even if you're not), let me say I'm working up to my grand finale - the fanfic which will use up Australia's supplies of Kleenex! Did you meet Kumari?? Her stuff..... ;)

Oh HI!! We are swapping threads! You just posted at the Bar, did you not? Yes, at the moment I am the only Aussie on the thread there! Yes, I THOUGHT that it was you that wrote those incredible one shots! You have an amazing gift.  :)  Yes I met Kumari....we had the most incredible connection...she slept in my hotel room and when she left the next day, we just held each other and cried and cried...I have some wonderful pictures if you are interested.... :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 07, 2006, 10:41:11 PM
Where abouts do you live? I am on the Gold Coast, QLD...

I know that a lot of the people on this thread live in Sydney...or the Blue Mountains, how about you? :)

I live in Perth, WA - visit the eastern states many times a year tho. Used to live in Faulconbridge in the
blue mountains and also parts of Sydney and Newcastle. Been in Perth for ages now tho.

Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on September 07, 2006, 10:55:05 PM
Yes please, Lolita. Do you need an email address or what?
You are too kind - I love writing this stuff. It breaks my heart occasionally but not as much as the original story. That's a pain that can never be fixed. I swore I'd never write AU but the odd thought has popped up.
Sorry, did you say you wrote too? Where is your stuff? I'm only on the net a couple of hours a week so I don't get a lot of exploration time.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 07, 2006, 10:55:55 PM

Luke, when I read your post about Megalong Valley I went like this  :o :o :o.  Would you believe that two of our number actually live in the Blue Mountains.  Not only that, but we've actually discussed the possibility of a 2 or 3 day horse trek as a likely contender for our ultimate get-together.  We were thinking high country Victoria, but Packsaddlers (yes, they're still there!) would be perfect.  I'm a rider myself, and I know at least one other casual G'dayer is, so there's two who know one end of a horse from the other - not a bad start  :P.  Would we have to eat beans every meal, do ya think?  :D. 

The thing with something like this is that there are so many really superb locations in this wonderful country to do it - at the end of the day I suppose it'll just be whatever is the most doable for the largest number.   and then of course, there's the additional question of when  :-\. 

Cheers to all, have a great weekend.  How many of us will watch the movie this weekend, I wonder ........ be fun to all watch it simultaneously one day or night, and discuss it the following day  :).

w
Wolf - amazing hey? Glad Packsaddlers are still an outfit - it's very Brokeback there don't you reckon? It really would be the ideal place for a get-together. Beanz meanz Heinz wolf - should get Mr Heinz to sponsor us - Yes... I'll be packing my can o beans ... no matter whether its gonna be in the blue mtns, vic high country or gold coast hinterland - yr right, there are many lovely, appropriate and suitable places for such a get together. Looking forward to it.

Yr idea of watching BBM simultaneously and discussing soon after sounds like a great idea. Count me in and tell me when! You all have a great weekend.

Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 08, 2006, 01:14:56 AM
Luke, I'm in Melbourne btw

Angel - with most of the horseriding outfits, they cater for people who are not experienced - so even if you got on back to front they'd cater for you. What/where would you have in mind for a get together? You reckon the horseriding thing'd be the go? Having done it in very Brokeback-type rugged places and survived (easily), and knowing how much fun it can be - plus the link in our minds to Jack & Ennis on horses - it could be magnificent time, be it a day or a couple of days! The prospect of a get together excites me, but a meeting such as the above, in mountainous territory would rock (no pun intended) - have a think about it Angel .... and anyone else who's reading this. All the very best. btw, haven't read yr "Jack/Ennis fanfic" yet ... where should I look?

Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on September 08, 2006, 07:41:06 AM
Hello  Everybody ,

Has been long time since my last post here..
How all you been ?  Hope all going well for you and your families.. Have not forgotten you and my beloved BBM, how can I?  .. it is just time issue to post , that's all.
Still listen to BBM cd everyday on my way to work and sing along with Teddy ' I just  want to say Goodbye..' ..


Gone through the G'day posts to bring myself up-to-date.. First of all, welcome to G'day thread Luke, nice meeting with you.
Read your earlier posts, thanks for sharing your experiences with us. I live in Melbourne.. Would love to meet you all, but not sure if I can do it this year :(

Love and Big Hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on September 08, 2006, 08:39:44 AM
Hi Luke,

A horseriding get together would be excellent!!  Both Wolf and I have been riding for years.  I'm in the Hawkesbury area so not far away from Megalong.  Maybe next time you're in Sydney we could organise something even if it is just a meal somewhere.  There are quite a few of us on this thread that live around Sydney.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on September 08, 2006, 09:12:03 PM
Hi again Luke
I live in Woodford (next town up from Faulconbridge - cannot really count Linden :)) I have been to Packsaddlers but only to drive the school bus and wait while students ride. Horses always remind me of my students. Always do the opposite to what I want  :) but would be happy to join you around the campfire (not sure about beans) Can I suggest next Autumn as a time to aim for, say March after worst of heat and before the cold. I am going to NZ for a month from Oct 23 and am thinking of going to Northern hemisphere in April-May.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 09, 2006, 01:08:15 AM
Campfire - Thanks for the welcome. "Whenever" for the group get-together... Such things need a fair bit of advance consultation and planning anyway - seeing as we're spread far and wide!



ffrn - A meal somewhere sounds fine. Heading over east again soon. Let you know closer to the time.


Brianr - I agree, can't really count Linden! (apologies to anyone lurking from Linden!! Nice spot tho ;) ). Autumn sounds fine, and as I've just said above to Campfire... it'll take time to plan anyhow... - I'll be over that way regularly before then if you want a catch-up as I pass thru yr neck of the woods.

All the best to you all
Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on September 09, 2006, 03:37:36 AM
Hello there all you darlings d'Oz :)

traditionally I leave things to the last minute...am off to Europe for 10 whole weeks in a week and a bit...loads of things to do...ummmmmmmmmmmmmm might have to change tradition..

all those wee extras on the list...to do before takeoff...

so...this, to let you know I doth think of ye and the story...with great affection...when I link up with the forum while travelling I'll send you cyberpostcards...

main reason for trip is for my darling husband to visit where his mother was born....'n he...Germany....

hugs to you all...and welcome to the dear newies...

oh, why not...here are more hugs!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on September 09, 2006, 04:51:04 PM
main reason for trip is for my darling husband to visit where his mother was born....'n he...Germany....
Gute reise to madameshawshank and hubbie
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on September 10, 2006, 09:47:27 PM
Hi Luke again. I don't need too much encouragement to make a fool of myself on horseback! My fanfics are to be found at http://wildcolumbine.livejournal,com
There's one more to come and I've been threatening that it's a three-hanky weepie. I know fanfics aren't to everyone's liking but goodness, they're cheaper than a shrink!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on September 10, 2006, 10:01:15 PM
Cheers all,

Loving this idea of a horsey adventure (be it one day or several) next Autumn.  Weather would be perfect - a nice chill in the early morning and late afternoon, with warm but not blistering days. 

Luke, I'm also in the Blue Mtns - though not in Linden (poor, dear little Linden  ;D).

Angel, I used to read those books you're referring to - for the life of me I can't remember the name.  For some reason "Thelwell" keeps coming up.  And for the record, I don't imagine any of us are going to cut quite the figure astride that Heath does  ;).

Mme S, have a great time m'dear, and don't forget to write.  We'll miss you  :).

re: watching BBM simultaneously - I'm planning to watch this saturday night.  it's actually my birthday and part of my 'gift' from hubby is the weekend off from all childcare and housework  :P :P.  ergo I can watch the boys uninterrupted by his nibses "you're not watching THAT movie AGAIN are you?" (he can't very well complain on my b'day, now, can he).  looking at pressing the play button at about 8pm, if anyone's interested.

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 11, 2006, 04:39:36 AM
There's one more to come and I've been threatening that it's a three-hanky weepie. I know fanfics aren't to everyone's liking but goodness, they're cheaper than a shrink!

Angel - thanks. I'll have a look at yr fanfics.
I wasn't born on a horse either, but we'll be ok I'm sure!

Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 11, 2006, 04:56:17 AM
Luke, I'm also in the Blue Mtns - though not in Linden (poor, dear little Linden  ;D).

Wolf "Happy Birthday to you" - a couple of virgins hey? My Birthday is in a on Wednesday - 13Sep.
With so many G'day crew in the Blue Mtns, Packsaddlers sounds like its on the cards and "do-able"!
Amazing how "association" works in the brain - Poor little Linden will never be the same in my mind, whether I see it on the indicator screens at Central or pass thru the whistlestop - I will always associate it with this forum and BBM
Luke

Title: HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!
Post by: campfire on September 11, 2006, 03:45:03 PM
Dear  Wolf and Luke,


Happy Birthday to both of you.. My sister is virgo too.. I know how tidy and organised people you are :)))

Wish you both a sparkling, healthy  and prosperous new age..


All the best

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 12, 2006, 08:05:10 PM
Thankyou Campfire...
 
It wasn't till an hour or so after I got up this morning when I received an sms from my mum wishing me a Happy Birthday that I realised it was the 13th and my birthday

thanks again

Luke
Title: Book Campaign
Post by: campfire on September 13, 2006, 03:51:29 PM
Hi Wolf,

 I am not sure if  you have seen the message from KittyHawk in Book Project .. I think she is talking about you..
I have copied & pasted the message below.
She likes to get permission from you to include your part in the book. That would be great , I think..

I will send you pm too. I dont know your contact details , so just posting the info here.
Take care..


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Link is :

http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=8935.1245

Message is :

 Re: The Book Project
« Reply #1247 on: Yesterday at 04:06:35 PM »   

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Before you lose patience with me, I want to post part of one more story that we'd really hate to lose. If you can track down this author, we'd love to have her permission to include this in the book.


Another opportunity for Brokeback speech came up this past weekend while we were away in the mountains (having, yes, a Brokeback vacation). It’s not the season now for snow, but heavy clouds, low temperatures, and a chilly forecast combined to give me a chance to say, “Gonna snow tonight for sure.” How bloody pleased with myself I was!

Incidentally, my reluctant Brokaholic hubby showed his colors during our mountain adventure. This is a man who'd no sooner verbally acknowledge the presence of a gay couple than fly to the moon. It doesn't need attention drawn to it. And, of course, there's the fairly genuine irrelevance it has to his life. So there we were, just entering the high country, pulled over to a rest stop on the highway. The first people we see are a gay couple and the “mother-in-law,” clearly en route to the same location as we were. (Brokeback vacation? Highly likely!) His nibs straightaway mentions their “gayness” and points out in gormless fashion, “The mother doesn't seem to be bothered; that's good.” After a quiet chuckle, I reminded him that part of her job description as a mother is to want happiness and good health for her boy—which he clearly had both of, in spades.

Let me say right now that this change in my good man is something, and can only be a result of Brokeback Mountain. ...On another day, we passed through a gorgeous little high country town, just starting to be gentrified (or yuppified, if you like). There was an old, derelict, but beautiful art deco cinema there, and he said, “We could buy it, restore it, and screen nothing but Brokeback Mountain.” Of course, this was said with a smirk, but just the fact that it entered his head is kind of amazing. It was my sad duty to tell him we'd end up a pair of freaky old Rocky Horror types and our kids would divorce us at age fifteen.
—Wolf

Now surely someone remembers Wolf and knows how to get in touch with her?

- KittyHawk
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on September 13, 2006, 08:17:56 PM
a belated HAPPY BIRTHDAY to you, Luke  :).  funny how we develop the knack of forgetting them once we get past 35  :-\ ;D.  for my part, I'm choosing only to remember that saturday is BBM Day.  I won't be turning 43 at all.  Not in any way, shape or form.  and oh dear, now you've gone and cemented Poor Dear Little Linden in my bonce too!  it really is a non-event of a place tho, in't it - not our fault  :P.

Campfire, sent you a pm  ;).

cheers to all and sundry (do we have any sundry?  don't think we do).  off to finish painting a cupboard lime green.

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on September 13, 2006, 08:37:24 PM
And you know how good that colour looks when you've sat up all night with a cold cup of coffee and a husband out tomcatting with another tomcat.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 14, 2006, 11:15:37 AM
Thanks Wolf and  8)Many happy returns this coming Saturday ;D   (43? what a spring chicken!!)
Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on September 14, 2006, 08:05:15 PM
And you know how good that colour looks when you've sat up all night with a cold cup of coffee and a husband out tomcatting with another tomcat.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

actually it looks slightly better under those conditions, than it does in the glow of a black and white tv on a saturday night.  unless I'm knitting, then I don't notice.

Luke, spring chicken indeed!. I like to imagine so - but am brought firmly back to earth every morning and afternoon when the MILFs swarm the school gates. 

cheers all, won't be back before BBM screening tomorrow night, so a gentle reminder for anyone that's interested - 8pm est.  hold up, just thinking now that 9pm might be better.  done then, 9pm. 

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 14, 2006, 10:32:47 PM

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 ..am brought firmly back to earth every morning and afternoon when the MILFs swarm the school gates. 

w
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Wolf
The school gates? are you a teacher or does that refer to yr dropping the kids off at school?
Will try for the Sat 9pm est BBM viewing + being online - but only possible if my (lovable) brat is out & about. Should be interesting actually - never having participated in such an "experiment" before! Even if I can't participate, I'll check out G'day thread for the dialogue later to see what I've missed. Have a great weekend otherwise folks
Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on September 16, 2006, 12:51:37 AM
I seem to have been organised to go on a three-hour horse ride next week. If you don't hear from me again, you'll know I'm flat on my back in hospital, thinking about Jack and Ennis - can't be all bad.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 16, 2006, 02:30:15 AM
Angel - 3-hrs in the saddle sounds like the Megalong Valley? Taking yr i-pod or cd with the soundtrack? I went on a bushwalk a few weeks ago and listened to the soundtrack as I walked - might not be the safest or coolest thing to do if yr with others as well as riding a horse tho - but the solitude of walking alone in the bush, coupled with listening to the soundtrack provided a unique "twist" to the day!
Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on September 17, 2006, 09:21:23 PM
Well folks, I was unable to find the intestinal fortitude to stay awake until 11pm on saturday night   :-\.  as I was yawning and dopey (dopier than usual) by 7.30pm, a 9pm viewing wasn't really on the cards.  ended up forfeiting the lads for two episodes of Star Trek Enterprise (traded Jake for Scott Bakula ......things that make you go "hmmmm").  my apologies for being a party pooper.  I really aught to know better than to attempt such feats of derring-do as staying awake past 8.30.

Angel, since we haven't heard from you thus far on this sunny monday, can we assume you're prone somewhere in a back-to-front gown?

Luke, is your lovable brat in the same club as my husband?  ie, the "don't watch that movie in my presence" club?  and FTR, just a school mum.  Mixing it up with the 30yr olds   :-\.

Hi to Brian, BBMIntern, Campfire, ffrn, Katie (if you're lurking  ;)), and Mme S. 

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on September 17, 2006, 09:27:37 PM
Wolf, I'm working my way up to the three hour ride (which will be in Plenty, Luke - tres ordinairre, to quote Wolf) and will probably be next week now.
I have to announce to my husband that I'm putting on "My DVD" so that he runs off to bed and hides for the requisite time. I will not tolerate interruptions!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on September 18, 2006, 06:12:38 PM
So, Angel, Plenty is plenty dud eh?  I'm not sufficiently familiar with Melbourne environs to know it  :-[.  In what fashion are you working your way up to the ride?  are you skipping around the house astride a broomstick clicking your tongue in time to imaginary hoofbeats?

I had a good chuckle at your hubby's sensible approach to BBM.  Mine is also generally happy to absent himself for the duration - though in our case it's reversed because our 'good' DVD player (ie, the only one that will play BBM) is in our bedroom.  Ergo his nibs gets the loungeroom and all it's added attractions - proximity to kitchen, bigger telly, etc etc.  Incidentally, I've advised him that he'll be required to watch it again some day - to which he grumbles and says a swear word, followed by "maybe, but not in this decade" or some such.

Have a good day all.  My brother and his wife are expecting their first baby any day, so off I go to pester SIL via email with questions like "are you having lots of braxton hicks?, how are you sleeping?, do you feel baby has dropped at all in the past few days" and other equally irritating enquiries. 

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on September 18, 2006, 07:04:32 PM
G'day Gang d'Oz..

time for a brief, and hug-coated farewell as we take off on our expedition...10 weeks...fly out tomorrow...my Papa with me now..time for Scrabble in the sunshine...time for the sun to soak into my feet..

thinking of you all with much much affection..

almost a fifth of a year!! golly gosh

love

I'll be in touch when I can...we'll be here and there and everywhere..

maybe I'll sleep tonight...the pattern is that I'm awake before the birds ;)

big hugs until next time...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on September 18, 2006, 10:17:12 PM
BROKEBACK ALERT! It will be showing at the Astor in St Kilda, Melbourne, on Tuesday 17th October. Not a double bill, thank goodness. Are there any other Victorians lurking out there or do Campfire and I have the territory to ourselves?? I'll be there.
My much-maligned husband says "Why can't you be satisfied with the DVD? but he knows he's fighting a losing battle!
In sneaky ways, I managed to read much of the story to him while seeking his opinion on some point or other - at least, that's what I tell him!
Broomstick? Clicking noises? No, finest coconuts carried by african swallows. Actually, I'm doing my backache exercises.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on September 19, 2006, 03:16:31 AM
I don't have the dvd yet. I know conversion to the PAL format results in a slightly reduced running time – can anyone tell me if it is at all noticeable?

Oh, is that what it is? When I bought the DVD and saw the running time was a good 5 minutes less than the cinematic version I had conniptions. But as the others have assured you, you can't notice any difference (which doesn't make any sense to me but Google tells me is something to do with frame rates. Dammit, I want this movie to last as long as possible!). So I do hope you've bought the DVD by now!

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I’d be interested in what you think about the director’s cut version of Donnie Darko once you’ve had a chance to refresh your memory – I’ve only seen the original, but have read that the director’s cut makes the mistake of trying to explain things better left to the imagination. With films like that I’m happy to go along for the ride – understanding what the hell is going on is an optional extra!

Once I watched them it was obvious there are a lot of differences between the two versions. I guess the reason the Director's Cut seemed familiar when I first saw it is because it incorporates a lot of material from the website. I don't mind that, but I do mind that Donnie seems a bit less likable in the Director's Cut, especially in his relations with his girlfriend. I always sigh at the moment when he says to her that their first kiss should be a reminder of how beautiful life can be. What I wouldn't give for a boyfriend who sees life is such romantic terms! That scene is still there but it's counterbalanced by a couple of changes that I don't like. Anyway, Donnie Darko is on at the Chauvel on Sunday 1st Oct., 6pm. The calendar doesn't say which version but it will probably be the Director's Cut, if you're prepared to give it a go...

Also watched The Day After Tomorrow. I had remembered Jake as looking similar to BBM in this film and was much surprised to find that actually he still looked very young. I can see now why so many fans on the Eyelashes thread say he seems to have grown up overnight. Yes, I'm still patiently ploughing my way thru 'Lashes, a few pages per week. Sadly, most of the photos have been removed from thread 1. :'(

Does anybody recollect October Sky (the film that launched Jake, excuse the pun) being released in Oz? IMDb assures me it was (1999) but I don't remember it at all. Not that I see every movie that comes out but I tend to be aware of them at least, and I feel I should've noticed this one because I had a boyfriend who was a space enthusiast.

Madameshawshank, enjoy your trip! bon voyage and we want lots of field reports. I'd be particularly interested in hearing European opinions of BBM.

Steve, hope your busyness is not detracting from your trip! Enjoy England and Japan.

Greets to the rest of G'Day! Thanks to whoever posted the tip about reading a person's posts via their profile, that's a great way to catch up with those who've joined this forum recently.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on September 19, 2006, 05:09:45 AM
BROKEBACK ALERT! It will be showing at the Astor in St Kilda, Melbourne, on Tuesday 17th October. Not a double bill, thank goodness. Are there any other Victorians lurking out there or do Campfire and I have the territory to ourselves?? I'll be there.
My much-maligned husband says "Why can't you be satisfied with the DVD? but he knows he's fighting a losing battle!
In sneaky ways, I managed to read much of the story to him while seeking his opinion on some point or other - at least, that's what I tell him!
Broomstick? Clicking noises? No, finest coconuts carried by african swallows. Actually, I'm doing my backache exercises.


Thanks for the info , Angel .. Checked out the Astors web site, there is one session on 7/Oct, but could not see the 17/Oct .
 How did you find out about it?

I  would love to come , so  we can meet at last :)... Just it is Tue night, kids activities.. all  that jazz.I will see what I can do..
I will let you know how I go with this..Maybe I can manage to bring a friend too , who knows .

Hello to everyone.. Enjoy your Europe trip Madame, Sep-Oct good months to travel for northern semisphere..

I have watched  "Far from Heaven"  last night. nice movie.. very stylish directing, acting, costumes  .. Has anyone seen it ?

Biiig Hugs..
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on September 20, 2006, 11:55:28 PM
Campfire - definately not the 7th. That has two other films listed. The 17th is on their calendar which you can download (you know, those lovely coloured things) I hope you can come otherwise I'll probably be by myself. I'll just cry alone!!
I've seen Far From Heaven - an interesting film.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: BBM-Intern on September 22, 2006, 07:21:10 AM
Hi you Melburnians (did I spell that right?),

Please don't torment me, is it true that our beloved BBM is showing again at a cinema?  Am thinking of flying down from Brissie to see it if it's real, and if there's a few of us to make a posse to go.  Come on, let's have a round-up and make an effort to attend, get dressed up, lots of Ennises, Jacks, Lureens and Almas.  If folks can get dressed up for Rocky Horror etc. so can we.  "It could be like this, just like this always - if we make the effort".  Maybe we could meet beforehand, somewhere where we could have some coffee, a piece of cherry cake or apple pie - somebody stop me, I'm getting too excited!

How about making this a preliminary get-together, before we go further afield horse-riding and all in the snow?

Lem :-)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 23, 2006, 05:32:01 PM
BBM-Intern - Hi, I'm a relative newbie on the block (or should I say "the ranch")... I like yr idea of flying down for such a gathering. I'm prepared to fly across from Perth if its on the 17th. Thats the only day I could - not the 7th tho. It also depends on what time the session is on as I would be having to fine-tune flights.

Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: CANSTANDIT on September 23, 2006, 08:27:45 PM
Just jumping in here to say you are one entertaining group of folks....
May I add two things:
Galloping about the casa on a broomstick while 'clicking' is the only way you'd get me on a horse these days; and

I swear, if I had the greenbacks, I'd be hopping a flight to Melbourne for the 10/17 showing...now that would be exciting, to be with Heath's fellow countrymen during a BBM viewing..sigh....

Best to all you crazy Aussies..!! And hey Mini, how's your kiss/no kiss argument these days??  :D ;) ;D
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 24, 2006, 02:45:06 AM
Hi Canstandit. thanks - yr welcome! It's a bit of a hike from AZ to AU my friend. I'm sure that you'll read about it if and when we do "get together" in either Melbourne for the movie or the mountains for the ride. Haven't been to a BBM get together yet, so the prospect is exciting!

Hi Campfire & MinisteringAngel - what are yr thoughts on the proposal by BBM-Intern? Is it do-able?

Cheers to all

Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on September 24, 2006, 03:53:24 PM
Hi Canstandit. thanks - yr welcome! It's a bit of a hike from AZ to AU my friend. I'm sure that you'll read about it if and when we do "get together" in either Melbourne for the movie or the mountains for the ride. Haven't been to a BBM get together yet, so the prospect is exciting!

Hi Campfire & MinisteringAngel - what are yr thoughts on the proposal by BBM-Intern? Is it do-able?

Cheers to all

Luke

Hi Luke & BBM-Intern,


Time is 7:30 pm on  Tuesday 17/October. Personally I would love to watch   the movie together. But I  still need to work out the strategy to be there  that night - arranging the kids - and confirm if I can do or not.. I may not be able to join you guys after the movie or during the next days as such. But meeting BBM fans like myself would  be a privilege.

How would it suit you  Angel, what do you think ?

Biiig Hugs

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on September 24, 2006, 08:17:48 PM
Morning all,

Just adding an "I'm deeply envious" to the chorus.  Would that we could all get down to Melbourne for the 17th  :'(.  As it is, I'm sitting here staring at a Jetstar ticket taking me south on November 10 - which just makes it that much more frustrating!

Still, it'll be a most wonderful thing if a few of you guys can get together to share the event - can only imagine how grand it'd be to sit in a darkened cinema with my fellow Brokies, waiting for those first mournful notes ....... sigh ..........

Busy week this week - much gardening and spring has sprung stuff outdoors.  Back soonish.

W

PS Angel.  I actually had the aforementioned coconut shells as a wee slip of a girl - my interest in all things equus knew no bounds.  how are the back strengthening drills going?

PSS Howdy CSI - is this the first time we've seen you here?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Boris on September 25, 2006, 01:00:25 AM
G'Day people of down under

I'm planning to come to see Australia during the winter (February/March) for 2-3 weeks. Most of the time I'll be around Perth area but I intend to visit other parts of the country too. If you could provide some suggestions what places would be worth a visit, they would be greatly appreciated. A chance to meet with fellow brokeaholics would also be a dream come true.

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on September 25, 2006, 01:51:48 AM
G'Day people of down under

I'm planning to come to see Australia during the winter (February/March) for 2-3 weeks. Most of the time I'll be around Perth area but I intend to visit other parts of the country too. If you could provide some suggestions what places would be worth a visit, they would be greatly appreciated. A chance to meet with fellow brokeaholics would also be a dream come true.


G'Day  Boris
Remember it will be late summer, hot and humid in most places.  Luke can tell you more about Perth. The rest of us are in Melbourne (with a showing of BBM on Oct 17 lucky lucky), near Brisbane and near Sydney. (I think that is all, correct me if wrong). Let us know when your plans are definite. i would not like to start interstate rivalry by pushing one place over another. However i would not go to the Red Centre at that time of the year although a great experience at another time. .
I received an email today from Madameshawshanks who is in Paris - I am quite green with envy.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Boris on September 25, 2006, 02:08:25 AM
Thanks Brian

My pland won't be definite before December, but it is noce to plane ahead. I'll stay at least one week at my friends near Perth but I would like to see some other parts of Australia too. I had already ruled out Alice Springs and area surrounding it because of the heat. Never been down under, so even the prospect is quite exciting.

And Paris is just lovely this time of the year...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 25, 2006, 02:59:06 AM
Hi Boris,
Nice to hear that you'll be spreading your wings and flying south for your winter! I will be moving to the other side of this country around February, but hopefully will still be here in Perth when you arrive. You mentioned that you have friends in WA near Perth - where do they live? I look forward to meeting you in February. (I'll send you a pm with suggested places to visit here)
Regards,
Luke

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Boris on September 25, 2006, 03:18:52 AM
Hi Boris,
Nice to hear that you'll be spreading your wings and flying south for your winter! I will be moving to the other side of this country around February, but hopefully will still be here in Perth when you arrive. You mentioned that you have friends in WA near Perth - where do they live? I look forward to meeting you in February. (I'll send you a pm with suggested places to visit here)
Regards,
Luke



They live near St:Margaret River, about 200 miles south of Perth, on the coast. I haven't made definite plans as yet, but I try to schedule my trip in february. And unfortunately my wings aren't strong enough to fly me down there so I have to resort to Qantas and that, my friend, is bloody expensive. Thank you for your suggestions to come and it would be really great to meet you.
Title: Re: G'day! Brokeback get-together in Melbourne!
Post by: BBM-Intern on September 25, 2006, 05:36:58 PM
Hey, I've just received confirmation from Astor Theatre that they're going ahead with the screening of BBM on 17-October.  It'll be on the website in a couple of days, but as someone mentioned earlier, it's on the calendar already.

OK everyone, who's going?

L :-)

PS: If you're coming as Ennis, remember the correct headgear is a Stetson and for Jack it's a Resistol; only kidding, wear an akubra if you wish!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on September 26, 2006, 02:25:09 AM
Glad the Astor has confirmed that 17th Oct showing. They ditched the last one for Clerks 2!!
It's at 7.30p.m. and is just the one film, not their usual double bill. Flying down here sounds like a fabulous idea!!

I look lousy in cowboy gear - hell, I look lousy in anything.

And the back-strengthening exercises are proceeding nicely and tomorrow's the day!! You'll all have to wait till Thursday for a report.

What are you doing down here, CSI? Can't keep a good poster down. Wish you could fly here too.

Wonder if Heath is doing anything that day?? Quick visit to the home country?? In my dreams.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 26, 2006, 01:50:15 PM
Hi Boris,
Nice to hear that you'll be spreading your wings and flying south for your winter! I will be moving to the other side of this country around February, but hopefully will still be here in Perth when you arrive. You mentioned that you have friends in WA near Perth - where do they live? I look forward to meeting you in February. (I'll send you a pm with suggested places to visit here)
Regards,
Luke



They live near St:Margaret River, about 200 miles south of Perth, on the coast. I haven't made definite plans as yet, but I try to schedule my trip in february. And unfortunately my wings aren't strong enough to fly me down there so I have to resort to Qantas and that, my friend, is bloody expensive. Thank you for your suggestions to come and it would be really great to meet you.

I'm sure it will be "bloody expensive" Boris... it's not just down the road tho is it? Maybe you should try strengthening your wings!!! Look forward to hearing your "firm dates"
regards,
Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on September 26, 2006, 02:13:35 PM
Boris, I am on the Gold Coast, Queensland. Would love to see you! It is on the opposite side of the country to Perth but just know that you are very welcome.  :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on September 26, 2006, 02:15:48 PM
Oh guys! RE the Melbourne BBM screening! I am actually going to be moving house on that day...and its a joint settlement so I will be getting all stuff out of this one, plus cleaning it and transferring stuff.  :'(

I am still open to other options?

I am going back to the States in Jan to see my wonderful BBM Slash friends again...*so excited* so am trying to save furiously. Good to see that everyone is well.  :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Boris on September 27, 2006, 04:01:14 AM
Boris, I am on the Gold Coast, Queensland. Would love to see you! It is on the opposite side of the country to Perth but just know that you are very welcome.  :)

You're most kind... I'll definitely want to visit the eastern part of Australia too.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 27, 2006, 05:24:46 AM
Boris -
I hope you do get to visit the Gold Coast (and Lolita) - it's a very vibrant place with much to see and do.
Luke
Title: Re: G'day! Melbourne get-together 17-Oct
Post by: BBM-Intern on September 27, 2006, 07:58:07 AM
Hey y'all,

I'm booked, all ready to go - yayyy, so excited!  If you're planning to attend on the night, please let me know, I'll try my best to prepare a little surprise for each of the attendees, provided I don't get swamped.

But in the meantime, ticket's ready, hotel's ready, Resistol's ready.  Are YOU ready?

Lem
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 27, 2006, 10:13:00 AM
Hi Lem,
Didn't waste any time there did you?
I'm checking flights tonight. Hopefully there's still some good deals left this close to the 17th.
Let you know soon
Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on September 27, 2006, 05:10:42 PM
Ohh I am so jealous. Now I have the freedom and resources to go but I am flying to NZ  for a month on 23rd and a friend has asked me to relieve her at work on 18th so impossible.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on September 28, 2006, 01:18:53 AM
Okay, the news the DC world has been waiting for - I'm alive after my three hour horse ride! Few crushed vertebrates, leg busted in three places. No, actually, and surprisingly, I have a bit of achiness, a sore bum and three torn cuticles (from hanging onto the saddle VERY tightly). And I'm beginning to see why Jack in the motel was most appreciative of Ennis's horse-riding experience  ;) ;).
I'll try putting something on the Daily Sheet to see if we can flush out anyone else within cooee of Melbourne for 17th.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on September 28, 2006, 07:48:58 AM
Poor li'l angel with a sore bum a'la'plenty hey?
I could see that was on the cards Angel - couple of hours in the saddle "moves" things! Hope yr feeling ok after a good sleep!

I saw the daily sheet - commenting on a Melbourne get together! By the looks of things tho, it might not be too many showing up.

Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on September 28, 2006, 11:06:37 PM
Actually, I feel remarkably fine. considering my age and total lack of "athaletic" ability. I've worked out there is one BBM obsessive per million head of population so Melbourne isn't going to throw up a lot of us. Still, one never knows, do one.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on September 30, 2006, 03:27:18 PM
Good morning all!

Is anyone up to a get together later in November around the Hawkesbury/Blue Mountains area??  Brian?  Wolf??  Mme S??? (or are you still O/S???).  Sue_k7751 is coming down from Qld for a wedding in the Hawkesbury and will be around from 17th-21st November.  The Sunday is out for her but any other day is fine.  Any suggestions for times and places to rendezvous?  Friday evening or Saturday are best for me.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on October 01, 2006, 03:43:32 AM
Sorry my plans are to return from NZ about Nov 21 maybe a little earlier or a little later.
Mme S is still in Europe ( I think another 6 weeks.) I have been receiving wonderful accounts of her daily activities written in her inimitable style.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on October 01, 2006, 03:55:03 AM
Good morning all!

Is anyone up to a get together later in November around the Hawkesbury/Blue Mountains area??  Brian?  Wolf??  Mme S??? (or are you still O/S???).  Sue_k7751 is coming down from Qld for a wedding in the Hawkesbury and will be around from 17th-21st November.  The Sunday is out for her but any other day is fine.  Any suggestions for times and places to rendezvous?  Friday evening or Saturday are best for me.

Hello all!

In the rainy RAINY UK today.  Generally getting one pleasant day (shirtsleeves, sunshine) and one soaking day.   Got caught in a storm on the way back from the pub with my brother last night.  I am NOT a duck!  Didn't rain like this when I was a kid--more that soft, endless misty rain.  Feh.

Anyway, plan calls for arrival in SYD on the 24th October for a few months, out for a few days to satisfy the immigration people, then back for a couple more, so November sounds like a good time!  (Hafta go to Canberra last few days of November tho')

PhotonDancer: MY busyness is still busy.  They realized--after they fired me--they need someone, um, to do my job, so I'm consulting back to them for a few days a month.  Busier than ever in other words.

When does Mme get back?

-- stephen

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on October 01, 2006, 04:25:55 AM
When does Mme get back?

-- stephen


Hi Stephen
Great to hear from you again and know all is well even if you are a trifle damp. Mme left Sydney on September 20 and her last post to the forum on Sept 19 says she is going for 10 weeks so will be back at the end of November.  If anyone wants her messages (3 already) PM me with your email, I do not think it would be proper to post them anywhere on the forum but am sure Mme would be happy to have them shared amongst her friends

Brian
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on October 06, 2006, 09:22:06 PM
PhotonDancer: MY busyness is still busy.  They realized--after they fired me--they need someone, um, to do my job, so I'm consulting back to them for a few days a month.  Busier than ever in other words.

Hi Stephen, nice to hear from you - I was on the verge of PMing to see if you were still alive! Of course they discovered they still need you after getting rid of you! does this ever NOT happen? At least you're able to get revenge as well as $$ with the consulting. Hope the rain eases for you, try sending some of it down here to Warragamba. That whole in-Sydney-out-of-Sydney shuffle sounds like it will keep you occupied. "Which country am I supposed to be in today?" :-p
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on October 11, 2006, 01:28:26 AM
Good grief, my husband has decided to come along on the 17th. Why, I don't know. He wasn't keen on the film the first time. Hope that doesn't put anyone off. Luke??? Are you still coming??
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: BBM-Intern on October 11, 2006, 04:40:31 PM
Hey Ministering Angel,

Looks like "Brokeback Fever" has finally been passed on to your husband.  Let's see if we can make a convert out of him!  Seriously though, it's great to get someone new to come and see the film, if he's willing to talk about it, a new perspective for all of us.

Oh, any of you others (including "lurkers", you're very welcome) out there, please let us know if you're coming to Melbourne for the 17th October.

Lem :-)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on October 12, 2006, 04:00:52 AM
Mini Angel

maybe he's just coming to check out who you've been spending all this time with? :D :D You know you meet some crazy folks on the internet... ;D ;D

I wish I could be in Melbourne for the 17th, but it ain't goin a be that way. I can't. I'm stuck with what I got ......ok, enough of the quoting.
I wonder what I have to do to get the Chauvel in Sydney to have another screening............ ::)

Karen
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on October 12, 2006, 04:31:45 AM
So who is going to the screening? I wish that I could make it... :(

Just to throw it out there...is it just me and Kaz and Ministering Angel who are Slash Obsessed here? Do any of you other Aussies read any of it? Just that I got told that there were a few Aussie lurkers.

Im on the GC and was thinking of hosting a get together here if there is interest...cause we are a small bunch, all welcome to stay at my place...there is other alternative accomodation. I was hoping to go back to the States in Jan but the airfares are just crazy.

And all my friends and family think I'm insane for still being this obsessed...I need to be with other Brokebackers. If anyone is interested...just pm me or put it out on the thread  :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on October 12, 2006, 05:09:23 PM
MiniAngel - Can't make it - hope its a good night for you all at the Astor on the 17th folks
BTW I second that opinion - he's coming along to check out who you girls been "hanging with"! mmm?
Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on October 16, 2006, 06:52:15 PM
Howdy all  :D

Life interrupted my protracted habitation of DC-land for a good two or three weeks.  Good interruptions - like loved ones having babies and kids home on school hols etc, but still!

The not-good news is that I stupidly lent my copy of BBM to a school mum I barely know - and she's yet to return it three weeks later.  I've asked several times but she keeps coming up with 'reasons'.   Feels a bit like I haven't seen the boys in a year  :'(. 

Meanwhile, have a FABULOUS time tonight, all you lucky ducks in Melb for the screening.  Will be sitting here watching Australian Idol (as you do) at 7.30 and brewing a hearty dose of raving envy  ;D.  Mini Angel, glad to hear you survived the three hours of bum torture.  Even as a life-long rider I still end up with the same .... err ........ end, after a decent gallop. 

Incidentally, we went en famile to Jenolan Caves on saturday.  Was a wonderful day - lovely scenic drive of about 90 mins, 16c in the glorious caverns while outside was 38c, etc etc.  Upshot was I picked up a leaflet for day-long horse treks in Megalong Valley whilst there.  Different outfit from the one Luke knows, but sounded very good.  Would be SO good to do it - ffrn, Brian, Mme S, Luke, Photon, Stephen (hello to you, travelling man!), Kaz, and any extra-staters that can possibly make it.  Intern, surely you could bring your good self and your resistol down for the occassion  :P.   Maybe we could do it when Boris is here - that'd be fun!

I'm off to workshop the possibility of buying another copy of BBM to replace the MIA one.   I don't like to think what might happen to the school mum in question if I'm not able to get hold of a) my original copy, or b) a replacement widescreen copy.  Could get ugly.

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on October 16, 2006, 10:47:16 PM
Good to hear from you Wolf. I will pm you about a copy of our favourite movie. We have been a quiet group lately but at least no tantrums like in some other threads. . Am also thinking about the Melbourne group tonight. Looking forward to receiving a full description.  MadameS. is still wandering in Europe. She sends at least 4 pages with photos about every second day. Post number 9 came this morning from Aix-en Provence. They are in her inimical style. The things she sees, the people she meets, the history behind the things she sees and occasional haiku and other poetry about her thoughts on what has been seen.
I am flying to Christchurch next Monday so will probably not be able to read this forum for 4 weeks. How shall I cope? If I get a chance at an internet cafe I will at least try to read the G'day thread.
It sometimes worries me to see that since March I have spent 9 days, 4 hours and 29 minutes reading the davecullen forum.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on October 16, 2006, 11:00:09 PM
   Maybe we could do it when Boris is here - that'd be fun!
as you have mentioned Jari (Boris ) I  hope you have all read his post this morning our time
Re: How Brokeback affected me                                                                         
« Reply #10073 on: Today at 03:46:20 AM »  http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=101.msg529477#msg529477
I found it incredibly moving and perhaps illustrates what Brokeback is all about for me.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on October 17, 2006, 06:40:16 AM
It sometimes worries me to see that since March I have spent 9 days, 4 hours and 29 minutes reading the davecullen forum.

Brian, would it make you feel better if I told you I've just clicked over into 18 days?? ::) ::) ::)

Karen
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on October 17, 2006, 07:12:54 AM
   Maybe we could do it when Boris is here - that'd be fun!
as you have mentioned Jari (Boris ) I  hope you have all read his post this morning our time
Re: How Brokeback affected me                                                                         
« Reply #10073 on: Today at 03:46:20 AM »  http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=101.msg529477#msg529477
I found it incredibly moving and perhaps illustrates what Brokeback is all about for me.

Yes, isn't Jari wonderful? *sigh*

And just to put things in a little perspective: 58 days, 23 hours and 23 minutes.  :o  :o  :o

 ;)  :D

Title: G'day! "Report" on Brokeback Reunion in Melbourne
Post by: BBM-Intern on October 18, 2006, 09:26:27 AM
Hi everyone,

Just a quick report from your cadet reporter here; Campfire and Ministering Angel, if I've got something wrong, please set the record straight!

Flight from Brisbane to Melbourne was uneventful, except that it was running late and traffic into Melbourne CBD was terrible.  Our dear Ministering Angel and her husband were waiting at the Rendezvous Hotel where I was staying.  But I was there at 1730 as I had hoped for.  Dumped my things and off we went to get a bite to eat.  Wow, Ministering Angel is so much more knowledgeable about BBM than I am, even though I'd seen the film a total of eight times in the theatre before this one.

We then took the train from Flinders Street Station to Windsor, which is in the suburb of St Kilda (a beachside fashionable suburb, very trendy).

[View from my hotel room looking at Flinders Street Station]
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/lemueltay/BrokebackReunionAstorMelbourne00.jpg)

Then we had a very short walk to the historic Astor Theatre.  Only the balcony area of the theatre was open that night, not the stalls.  Very old and atmospheric the theatre was, old posters and bits of equipment.  We waited outside for Campfire and her friend to arrive, and that was when I heard the outrageous news that the theatre was planning to have an intermission in the movie.  Whaaat??!!  Can't folks last out the two and a bit hours for the movie?  We protested but to no avail, at least the projectionist had the taste to say that he disagreed and the movie should be shown right through.  But, that's what the manager wanted.  Campfire soon arrived and we took the second front row, right in the centre and had the best view in the house.  Ministering Angel was right, make sure to get the tissues at the ready, it's no good trying to fumble for them when the waterworks begin.

A few trailers were shown, including "The Last Trapper", and when there was a scene of an elk being shot, I said "Wooee!" and gave Ministering Angel a shove, which was a joke that only we would understand!! Soon, that familiar twang started and the whole journey began again.  Joy, hope and despair were my feelings in equal part for the first half of the movie, until the dratted intermission.  We knew the jokes and there were bits of giggles, but soon it turned rather serious.

Actually, the thought of the intermission was very distracting, and I was glad when it happened, instead of worrying when they were going to stop the film.  Incidentally, it was after, "There ain't no reins on this one.".  Well, we made the most of the intermission, and it was my pleasure to give the lovely Ministering Angel and Campfire a "Brokeback Pack" showbag - a denim-themed bag containing a framed picture with a BBM scene, a copy of the 31 March 2004 screenplay, a DVD of BBM supplementary material (interviews, awards and a couple of music videos, including "A Love That Will Never Grow Old", which I put together) and a Jakey-poo gift tag.  Just like going to the Royal Agricultural Show and getting a bag from sideshow alley!

[Photo of the "showbag"; contents varied slightly]
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/lemueltay/BrokebackReunionAstorMelbourne02.jpg)

For me, the second half really drew me in much more, and the final reunion scene was absolutely gut-wrenching.  The look of death in Jack's eyes as Ennis drives away was heart-rending, the pain was so palpable.  In short, we sat there crying until the titles were all finished before we said a word.  By the time we went outside, the BBM poster was already taken down, so we had to settle for us on the front steps of the theatre.

[L-R: Campfire, BBM-Intern, Ministering Angel]
(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r237/lemueltay/BrokebackReunionAstorMelbourne01.jpg)

It was a wonderful experience to meet the other true belivers.  As Ministering Angel mentioned, it's probably one true believer in a million, so I don't feel so bad now, if no one else in BrizVegas is as crazy as I am, it don't matter.  One day, we'll look back at all this history in the making and say, "When you wake up, the world may have changed.".

OK, over to you now Ministering Angel and Campfire to write about your experience on this viewing of the movie.  Personally, I was a bit too shell-shocked to notice what others were thinking, my mind and body had gone quite numb at the end of it, I described it as having "gone ten rounds with Mike Tyson", I was really exhausted mentally, physically and spiritually.  What is it about this film that can do this time and time again?

Lem :-)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on October 18, 2006, 09:14:34 PM
BBM_Intern and Campfire, thank you so much for a fabulous evening. It was such a strange, rewarding privilege to sit and watch this film with two other people who loved it as much as me. As BBMI says, we chuckled indulgently through some of the early stuff (quietly, I hasten to add) but once FNIT began, it suddenly got SOOOO serious.

I've now decided the only way to watch this film in, as Mme S has, said, in a cinema ALL BY MYSELF. Not crying too loud again was a weird experience. At the end I could barely take in what my two companions were doing. I was creased up in pain. It's taken a day to work it through but I'm pleased to say I just posted on the Symbolism thread and I'm very happy. Maybe seeing the film again cleared a few things up in my head.

BBMI, your showbag was wonderful and so greatly appreciated (esp. the santadance bit  ;)). Campfire, you are a total darling, as are you, BBMI. Two better friends and companions I couldn't wish for.

And now the photos are up, people can see what an unlikely horse-rider I am!!

Love and kisses to the G'Dayers, one and all.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on October 19, 2006, 04:41:36 AM
so jealous!!!!! It sounds like you had a great time, wish I could have been there!!  :'(

Always good to have faces to put to names as well! thanks for that Lem,

Karen
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on October 19, 2006, 10:13:03 PM
Gawd, is Wolf ever jealous  :-\ :'( :-[ ;D.

A thousand thankyooz to Lem (Intern) for the wonderful report on what sounded like a very special evening.  I could just about taste that unique blend of pleasure and pain that BBM is, just reading your post.  And another thousand thankyooz for the pic.  You three are NOTHING like I imagined (isn't it always the way) and I'm now deeply curious about all three of you - it's as though seeing you guys has added another layer of mystery - odd as that sounds.  I must say I had a bit of fun checking out your Jack-wear too, Lem  ;D.  Wanted to check for authenticity, you know how it is!

Mini Angel, thanks to you too - lovely to get a look at your non-cyber self.  I'm tempted to try to arrange a meet over coffee while I'm in Melb in early Nov, but fear I'll end up with about 3 pico-seconds of spare time.  I'm arriving late on a friday and departing on sunday morning.  bugger!  still, I'll think of you while I'm forcing my brother and his wife to watch the DVD on the saturday night  :P.

Meanwhile, in contrast to the glories of seeing BBM on the big screen (and in the world's best city - double delight), I finally managed to retrieve my DVD and am currently working on wrangling a viewing.  It'll be by far and away the longest gap between viewings thus far and I have a feeling I'll be gutted anew  :-\.

Cheers to all

W

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on October 20, 2006, 11:58:59 AM
I am flying to Christchurch next Monday so will probably not be able to read this forum for 4 weeks. How shall I cope? If I get a chance at an internet cafe I will at least try to read the G'day thread.
It sometimes worries me to see that since March I have spent 9 days, 4 hours and 29 minutes reading the davecullen forum.

Have a wonderful trip to CHC!  And be careful of them sheep.  There's a lot in NZ :)

15 days 6hrs 15 mins, me.

Only 76 hrs to go before I get to Sydney.

-- Sleepless in Tokyo

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on October 20, 2006, 03:23:39 PM
Only 76 hrs to go before I get to Sydney.

-- Sleepless in Tokyo
I will pass thru the airport about 12 hours before you- talk about ships passing in the night  :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: CANSTANDIT on October 20, 2006, 07:41:52 PM
Morning all,

Just adding an "I'm deeply envious" to the chorus.  Would that we could all get down to Melbourne for the 17th  :'(.  As it is, I'm sitting here staring at a Jetstar ticket taking me south on November 10 - which just makes it that much more frustrating!

Still, it'll be a most wonderful thing if a few of you guys can get together to share the event - can only imagine how grand it'd be to sit in a darkened cinema with my fellow Brokies, waiting for those first mournful notes ....... sigh ..........

Busy week this week - much gardening and spring has sprung stuff outdoors.  Back soonish.

W

PS Angel.  I actually had the aforementioned coconut shells as a wee slip of a girl - my interest in all things equus knew no bounds.  how are the back strengthening drills going?

PSS Howdy CSI - is this the first time we've seen you here?
HI, Wolf! sorry i didn't catch this....Mini has us busy analyzing here breathtaking posts in the Scene and Theme threads....unbelievable insight, really.
That post was my first time in this thread, and I feel a real kinship to you folks; in the early 90's my workplace, a mining company was bought out by a conglomerate that sent the cream of the Australian mining mnfg pros to our desert wasteland in AZ to run our foundry. It's true what they say about you folks; could never tell when they were drunk! They were uninhibited, as a rule, almost all the time! I loved it. I miss them. I plan on coming down there some day, for sure.
 :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on October 23, 2006, 02:00:39 AM
CSI, I'm saddling up the horse as we speak!!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on October 23, 2006, 03:12:57 AM
Only 76 hrs to go before I get to Sydney.

-- Sleepless in Tokyo
I will pass thru the airport about 12 hours before you- talk about ships passing in the night  :)

You never know, you might be delayed....

Enjoy your trip, and play safe!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on October 23, 2006, 10:17:39 PM
Brian, are you still here?  Wondering if you've jetted off yet ........ crossing (or not quite crossing) paths with Mr Mellor etc.  Oops, I see you've pm'd me - suppose I should have read that first  :-[.  Sending happy travels wishes if you're already in the land of the wrong white crowd. 

CSI, I had a good laugh reading your post.  Laughing with you of course, not at you!  Hearing someone refer to Australians as "uninhibited all the time" was a revelation, at the same time as being rather hilarious.  It's an astute observation, to be sure, despite the fact some of us (ahem, myself included) like to imagine we're quite proper  :-[ :-\ :-[ ;D.  I must get over to the threads you mention and catch up on Mini's posts.  Haven't visited the general threads in a while - always wonderful to read insightful and well written observations on the best movie in the known universe.  Please drop in here as often as you can, meantime!

Cheers to all.  Look forward to catching up with Mr Mellor once the transporter beam has rematerialised him. 

w

incidentally, does anyone else have the habit of relating songs to BBM given the slightest provocation?  if so, I recommend you (do, if you canstandit, or don't if you can'tstandit) tune into "love song dedications" on weeknights on 106.5 fm.  much fuel for fevered imaginings.

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on October 24, 2006, 01:08:01 AM

incidentally, does anyone else have the habit of relating songs to BBM given the slightest provocation?  if so, I recommend you (do, if you canstandit, or don't if you can'tstandit) tune into "love song dedications" on weeknights on 106.5 fm.  much fuel for fevered imaginings.



All the time. Turns out all my favourite songs were prewritten with BBM in mind! My latest one is the old song "Tomorrow Is A Long Time" (Yes, and only if my own true love was waiting, and if I could hear his heart softly pounding etc.)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: photondancer on October 25, 2006, 12:40:27 AM
And finally the news we've all (well, me for sure!) have been waiting for: there WILL be a Collector's Edition DVD!!!

http://homevideo.universalstudios.com/details.php?childId=36609

Woohoo!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on October 25, 2006, 02:27:20 PM
No Wolf I am not 'here' but  in Aotearoa,  Greymouth to be precise. In internet cafe but for some reason unable to access my email nor my finances  >:( so came to G'Day forum instead  :)
My mailbox is probably full with letters from Madameshawshanks
Had rain here on Tuesday then lovely sunny day for train trip over alps now cloudy with rain forecast for tomorrow. Wish I could send it home.
Best wishes to everyone
Brian
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on October 25, 2006, 07:44:25 PM
Mini, they had a fairly active thread over at Bettermost on BBM songs a while back.  Some of the stuff that cropped up was surprising, but brought with it "ahhh yes ..... of course!". 

Was interesting to note how many times "Annie's Song" was put forward.  Possibly the quintessential BBM song.  Another that struck me as initially odd, but revealed itself as a corker, and possibly the perfect song from Jack's point of view, was "Hero", by of all people, Enrique Eglasius (spelling?).   My fave in the category is "Unbelievable" (an Ennis POV) by Craig David.  Am very partial to 'Annie's Song' too though - love the fact the title inadvertantly pays homage to Ms Proulx.  Double goodness  :).

meanwhile, thanks for the news, Photon !!!!!

w

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on October 25, 2006, 08:23:27 PM
G'day!

Back in Sydney at long last!  And best of all, I saw Candy on the QF flight from NRT!

What a harrowing but compelling movie it is.  I kept squirming as they spiralled into their hell, but I couldn't stop watching.  Heath was great, of course.  Some of his mannerisms in this movie echo Ennis, which was a bit strange.

In any event, I recommend it.  But  it's not a "fun" movie, that's for sure.

OK.  Now it's time either to rain properly, or get up into the 30's.  Enough of this half and half!

-- stephen
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on October 26, 2006, 01:23:07 AM
I found Candy really disconcerting to watch back in, I think, May when it first came out. Heath is brilliant but Ennis was so much in my mind that I kept getting confused emotionally. The wrong responses were popping up all over the place.

I'm a bit wary of this collector's edition DVD - just what extra stuff is it going to have and will it stuff the story? Part of me wants to see every piece of footage they filmed (yes, all 13 takes of FNIT included!) but part of me feels the film was well-nigh perfect so why mess around with it. I guess I'll buy it though!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on October 27, 2006, 12:49:19 AM
Mini, they had a fairly active thread over at Bettermost on BBM songs a while back.  Some of the stuff that cropped up was surprising, but brought with it "ahhh yes ..... of course!". 

Was interesting to note how many times "Annie's Song" was put forward.  Possibly the quintessential BBM song.  Another that struck me as initially odd, but revealed itself as a corker, and possibly the perfect song from Jack's point of view, was "Hero", by of all people, Enrique Eglasius (spelling?).   My fave in the category is "Unbelievable" (an Ennis POV) by Craig David.  Am very partial to 'Annie's Song' too though - love the fact the title inadvertantly pays homage to Ms Proulx.  Double goodness  :).



Wolf, I had a bit of a senior moment when I first read this and started thinking about the Anne Murray song with the opening line about "People smile and tell me I'm the lucky one, we've just begun, think I'm gonna have a son" and I got very confused!! Couldn't help but think of the rude but funny arse-baby posts on the captioning thread.

"You fill up my senses like a light in a forest". yes, more appropriate. I've put a few of my favourites on the Songs relating to BBM thread and the Captioning thread over the months. "Into Temptation" by Crowded House is my all-time favourite.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on October 27, 2006, 04:17:45 AM
If anyone has links to any great BBM song videos I would LOVE to hear them and download.

I just dont have time to go to any other BBM sites, it is almost too much trying to keep up with my little girl, RL and the Slash thread...

It would be so appreciated.  :) Oh and Ministering Angel...anytime you want to update or post ANYTHING..ie - one shots etc, I am willing and eager...love your work so much. :)

I adored the photos of the Melbourne get together...looked like such fun...

Does anyone know when Candy will be available on DVD? I swear it only screened here on the Gold Coast for about a week, at VERY selected cinemas. Had bad reviews.

Then it was screening on the plane on the way home from the States, but only in first class, damnit! Oh! Oh! Also, does anyone know when 'Proof' will be coming out on DVD here...yes, I am a Jake Gyllenhaal crazed fan... 8)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on October 29, 2006, 07:45:42 PM
Mini,

Had a chuckle at your senior moment.  Love the captioning thread .... tres hilarious at times!  As regards senior BBm songs  ;), I'm also partial to Bread's "I would give everything I own", and The Beach Boys' "Wouldn't it be Nice (to live together, in the kind of world where we'd belong)" for the lighter side.  Tim Buckley's "Sweet Surrender" is another good one.  Heck, even the old Righteous Brothers' standard doesn't seem too especially inappropriate.  I'm currently finding much of John Denver's work fits, meanwhile (oh yeah, it's "like a NIGHT in the forest, for the record  :P).  Must be that special blend of folk and country that ties in so well.  Coupled with Mr D's simple but always heartfelt lyrics, it's a match made in heaven.

I must google the lyrics for "Into Temptation".  Can't recall it too clearly.  Though vaguely remember the Finn in question saying it was an ode to his new found Catholocism   :o.  Lets hope I don't conjur images of Pope Benedict (dear old thing that he is) instead of Ennis and/or Jack when I trot off to listen to it!

Greetings to you Mr Mellor!  Welcome back.  Sorry we couldn't turn on some better weather for you - I'll send the kiddies outside presently to do a rain dance in the first instance, and if that fails it'll be followed up with a shine dance.  Curious what you say about Candy.  I'm always interested to hear what people think of The Ledge's other, so-called, work.  (I say so-called because I don't think he'll ever approach Ennis again - lets hope he proves me wrong!).   Might DVD it when I'm in the mood for some darkness.   Are you back for long?  I recall you saying you were obliged to exit briefly to meet visa requirements? 

Lolita, these small children bring with them far more work than their size implies, don't they!  A friend of mine is pregnant with her 8th (yes,  :o :o :o), and is planning on two more.   Can you believe this woman somehow manages to have lengthy sessions at hairdressers on regular basis, go hiking, volunteer on various school committees, and still finds a couple of hours a day to hang about in cyberspace?  Anyway, as regards song vids, best place to look is Youtube.  I've saved a couple from there that never fail to have me dissolved into a puddle of tears before they're halfway through.  One is "Kissing You", the other is "My Immortal".  Both very nicely done - perfectly edited to the lyric in both instances, and slow-mo'd, black and white bits, etc etc. 
and for the record, we're all crazed Gyllenhaal fans here  ;) :P ;).

Sending long distance CHEERS to Brian and Mme S.  Safe and happy travels, both of you  :) :)

I have a bit of news - of the BBM viewing variety.  or rather, forthcoming BBM viewing variety!  We recently decided to de-kid one of our living areas.  Felt we needed an adult retreat, with not a toy in sight and nice, muted colours etc.  Ended up converting the room in question into a veritable home theatre  ;D.  New, dangerously pale coloured sofa, and whopping great tellly ........ yeee haaaaa!  Have BBM virgin coming this week to watch with me. She's a perfect candidate for Brokaholism (now that I've said that, what's the bet she'll hate it  :-[).  46 yrs old, married with two small kids, sophisticated thinker and sensitive and artistic to go with it.  Bit of a bohemian, well travelled, doesn't suffer fools (apart from yours truly), and loves a good fillum.  Various reasons for her virginity - she'd always intended to see it the minute it was released - felt it had her name on it etc.  I'm VERY excited about seeing it with this individual - she has the most potential to be converted of any of the virgins I've seen it with.   Must lay in stores of kleenex!

Cheers to all

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on October 29, 2006, 07:59:16 PM
Oops. Wolf, another moment - I meant to type Night but light came out instead. I've been putting in some serious thoughts about AP's use of elements and stuff like light so blame it on that.

Lolitaray, Candy was reviewed on radio here a day or two ago so sounds like the DVD won't be far away. I'll have to buy it straight away - the film just didn't get my full attention. Yes, as wolf says, youtube is good for videos, although you tend to get the same sweet footage repeated over and over.

Proof - Jake and (shudder) Gwyneth?? I guess I can put a bit of cardborad over her part of the screen. Oh wait, my husband likes her.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: CANSTANDIT on October 29, 2006, 09:28:46 PM
Brian, are you still here?  Wondering if you've jetted off yet ........ crossing (or not quite crossing) paths with Mr Mellor etc.  Oops, I see you've pm'd me - suppose I should have read that first  :-[.  Sending happy travels wishes if you're already in the land of the wrong white crowd. 

CSI, I had a good laugh reading your post.  Laughing with you of course, not at you!  Hearing someone refer to Australians as "uninhibited all the time" was a revelation, at the same time as being rather hilarious.  It's an astute observation, to be sure, despite the fact some of us (ahem, myself included) like to imagine we're quite proper  :-[ :-\ :-[ ;D.  I must get over to the threads you mention and catch up on Mini's posts.  Haven't visited the general threads in a while - always wonderful to read insightful and well written observations on the best movie in the known universe.  Please drop in here as often as you can, meantime!

Cheers to all.  Look forward to catching up with Mr Mellor once the transporter beam has rematerialised him. 

w

incidentally, does anyone else have the habit of relating songs to BBM given the slightest provocation?  if so, I recommend you (do, if you canstandit, or don't if you can'tstandit) tune into "love song dedications" on weeknights on 106.5 fm.  much fuel for fevered imaginings.


Wolf, I admit I anticipated a slight reaction to my generalized statement; this was a very specific group of mining engineers, and in some ways, very similiar to our rowdy, hard-drinking US Steel workers here; but the office politics that made so many of my co-workers uptight and grim, were simply walked right over by the very open and direct styles of our new owners.
and gotta say-they were good paritiers! But i admit, my  experience was limited to a certain industrial group; so perhaps you are mostly a proper nation. Somehow I doubt it, friend!!! :D :D ;)
After all, I've talked to Mini personally on the phone several times..... ;D ;D ;D

(Oh, I'll pay for that....)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on October 29, 2006, 11:48:27 PM
Greetings to you Mr Mellor!  Welcome back.  Sorry we couldn't turn on some better weather for you - I'll send the kiddies outside presently to do a rain dance in the first instance, and if that fails it'll be followed up with a shine dance.  Curious what you say about Candy.  I'm always interested to hear what people think of The Ledge's other, so-called, work.  (I say so-called because I don't think he'll ever approach Ennis again - lets hope he proves me wrong!).   Might DVD it when I'm in the mood for some darkness.   Are you back for long?  I recall you saying you were obliged to exit briefly to meet visa requirements? 

No rain.  PLEASE.  I know, I know.  Ideologically incorrect, but as far as I can recall it rained most every day of my first 21 years in the UK.

I'm here till March 23rd.  But yes, I have to exit to meet visa requirements.  Any ideas?  Has to be warm and sunny!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on October 30, 2006, 08:18:23 PM
Brief and higgledy piggledy

Mini, ah yes, the beautiful light  :).  Have just this minute come from lengthy discussion with BBM friendly friend about the elemental stuff.  Actually "like a Light in a forest" could work just as well, though not sure how filled the senses would be  :-\.

CSI, eons ago I worked for Dresser (which became Komatsu-Dresser, and is now most likely just Komatsu) and I recall mining engineers being a breed unto themselves.  All that heavy machinery and ... rocks .... and stuff.  Can quite see why eccentric would be the operative word.  And it's true, the rest of us are all very proper  :P :P.  Had another chuckle at the bombasts sailing over the office politics.  Can actually picture it! 

Mr Mellor, ok, shine it is then.  Meanwhile, have you decided on a visa-freshening location?  The first places that popped into my bonce were, for some odd reason, Singers and Fiji  :-\.  More sensibly, it's spring in Auckland, almost the wet season in Bali, and plain old stiflling in KL. 

W

Saw our movie today (yes, in broad daylight!) with BBM Virgin  :) :) :).  I was gutted, she was gutted.  It was as intense as my second viewing.  I'm completely discombobulated as I type this.  Will follow up with a more formal review from the now non-virgin in coming days.   Am too overcome with the joy and the sorrow to talk sensibly about it right now.  Maybe I'll just go and have a cup a coffee and a piece a cherry cake instead  :'(.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on November 01, 2006, 01:38:58 PM
a little something for BBM soundtrack fans -

Teddy Thompson  (I Don't Want to Say Goodbye, King of the Road) is touring Australia this month - playing Melbourne, Sydney, Katoomba, Adelaide, Brisbane and Perth - and a few places in between  :)

http://www.teddythompson.com/

I bought his album Separate Ways just recently and it's very good.

Karen
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on November 01, 2006, 11:05:50 PM
But i admit, my  experience was limited to a certain industrial group; so perhaps you are mostly a proper nation. Somehow I doubt it, friend!!! :D :D ;)
After all, I've talked to Mini personally on the phone several times..... ;D ;D ;D

(Oh, I'll pay for that....)

You will indeed! We do have libel laws here, you know!  No, I refuse to be proper. I just wish I could stop swearing quite so much.

Wolf - love to hear what your friend thought of it. I found that seeing it in a cinema again was a really paiful experience. I was teary and emotional for days. The slightest thing set me off. And while it seemed cruel to say I'm pleased your friend was gutted, everyone on this forum will know what I mean.

Kazinov - tx for Teddy Thompson info. His voice sends shivers down my spine, esp. when he sings deep "Just like the light of the morning..."
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on November 01, 2006, 11:20:18 PM

Mr Mellor, ok, shine it is then.  Meanwhile, have you decided on a visa-freshening location?  The first places that popped into my bonce were, for some odd reason, Singers and Fiji  :-\.  More sensibly, it's spring in Auckland, almost the wet season in Bali, and plain old stiflling in KL. 


All true.  Now.  But I need to freshen my visa by leaving before 'Stralia Day, or returning after Christmas, if that makes any sense.  And Fiji may well be under miltary rule by the time I get there :(

Singers?  What's that?

BYW, I saw the Scultures By The Sea http://www.sculpturebythesea.com/html/bottom.php today.  Lots of fun.  Then I carried on to Bronte  and realized by chance I was looking at Heath's old house.  Very nice too.  Of course, for A$7M it had better be!  Good for him!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on November 02, 2006, 10:14:48 AM

Mr Mellor, ok, shine it is then.  Meanwhile, have you decided on a visa-freshening location?  The first places that popped into my bonce were, for some odd reason, Singers and Fiji  :-\.  More sensibly, it's spring in Auckland, almost the wet season in Bali, and plain old stiflling in KL. 


All true.  Now.  But I need to freshen my visa by leaving before 'Stralia Day, or returning after Christmas, if that makes any sense.  And Fiji may well be under miltary rule by the time I get there :(

Singers?  What's that?

BYW, I saw the Scultures By The Sea http://www.sculpturebythesea.com/html/bottom.php today.  Lots of fun.  Then I carried on to Bronte  and realized by chance I was looking at Heath's old house.  Very nice too.  Of course, for A$7M it had better be!  Good for him!
Heath's old place in Bronte? remember the address by any chance? I'd love to cruise past it next time I'm near Bronte!! Also, does anyone know where he used to live in the Perth suburb of Applecross?
Many thanks for any replies that come forth
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on November 02, 2006, 11:38:01 AM
Heath's old place in Bronte? remember the address by any chance? I'd love to cruise past it next time I'm near Bronte!! Also, does anyone know where he used to live in the Perth suburb of Applecross?
Many thanks for any replies that come forth

8 Bayview Street.  Up the hill from #6.  (Necessary data since there's no number on the house.)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on November 05, 2006, 08:00:03 PM
Howdy, Quiet Folk,

Mr Mellor, the very day I mentioned Fiji they decide to have (yet another) coup.  Well done Wolf  :-[.  Have you decided on your enforced sun and sea interval yet?  Is Heath's pad really $7 mil?  :o.  Had a funny visual of Ennis loping along to Bronte in his dirty jeans, thinking everyone's watching him, like they all know ......

Speaking of Ennis, how about the news over weekend regarding one Mr Haggard (love the name), a croney of Dubuya's.  Man's a rabid opponent of gay marriage and a right wing Christian of the first water, and, whadayaknow, allegedly enjoying the sensual delights of a male 'sex worker' on a regular basis.  joy to the world  ;D ;D ;D.

No especially rivetting news from our house.  Vaguely getting organised to fly south to Melb on friday - must remember to rent a region whatever (Australian, in other words) BBM dvd to take with me.  Can't miss a perfect opportunity to indoctrinate a small family of potential obsessees! 

Cheers all

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on November 05, 2006, 08:24:52 PM
Howdy, Quiet Folk,

Mr Mellor, the very day I mentioned Fiji they decide to have (yet another) coup.  Well done Wolf  :-[.  Have you decided on your enforced sun and sea interval yet?  Is Heath's pad really $7 mil?  :o.  Had a funny visual of Ennis loping along to Bronte in his dirty jeans, thinking everyone's watching him, like they all know ......

Speaking of Ennis, how about the news over weekend regarding one Mr Haggard (love the name), a croney of Dubuya's.  Man's a rabid opponent of gay marriage and a right wing Christian of the first water, and, whadayaknow, allegedly enjoying the sensual delights of a male 'sex worker' on a regular basis.  joy to the world  ;D ;D ;D.

No especially rivetting news from our house.  Vaguely getting organised to fly south to Melb on friday - must remember to rent a region whatever (Australian, in other words) BBM dvd to take with me.  Can't miss a perfect opportunity to indoctrinate a small family of potential obsessees! 

They are quiet, aren't they?

Like the visual.  It's a very nice house too!

Haggard is a lovely name, don't you think?  Don't forget Dave's request to vote: http://www.thedenverchannel.com/family/10218645/detail.html.  This is also in Colorado where they have a ballot initiative next Tuesday (their time.)  I doubt it will end well, though :(

Region 4.  But you'll get that by default.  Shouldn't be a problem.  More obsessees!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on November 06, 2006, 05:54:54 AM
Heath's old place in Bronte? remember the address by any chance? I'd love to cruise past it next time I'm near Bronte!! Also, does anyone know where he used to live in the Perth suburb of Applecross?
Many thanks for any replies that come forth

8 Bayview Street.  Up the hill from #6.  (Necessary data since there's no number on the house.)

Thanks for that - much appreciated.

Haven't posted here for quite a while fellow "G'Day-er's" - but I lurk from time to time to "see" what may be going on - best wishes to you all
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on November 06, 2006, 05:55:57 AM
I'm happy to be noisy.
Lem and I were discussing the significance of the number 17 on Ennis's letterbox after we watched the film  A couple of days ago I got out a short story I'd written several years ago (my new BBM resolution is to do more with my writing than I have in the past, and I would - if I could stop writing Brokeback fiction!) and I mentioned a letterbox that had washed up on a beach - #17! I was ahead of my time!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on November 09, 2006, 03:24:08 PM
Hi Everyone
 Just dropping in to say G'Day
Am in Te Anau after spending last night in Milford Sound (well in a lodge on the edge of it) Was sorry to leave it as it is still as beautiful as I remember from 33 years ago as was Queenstown. Queenstown has always been one of my most favourite places in the whole world. Just after I left Q'stown on Wed morning it began to snow and was soon pouring. Kept up for about 6o km However yesterday driving into Milford was beautiful with snow still on the trees. Would have loved to have seen Queenstown covered in snow . Am visiting an internet friend tonight in Gove before going to Dunedin tomorrow. Some of you may know that Dunedin is my main candidate for a retirement home. Queesntown unfortunately is too touristy and expensive for retirement. I hate hot weather (although blinding snow while driving does not have a lot going for it either) Am loving the cool weather in November. Hope to see the Sydney members after i return in about another week. must go as the dollars are ticking over
Brian
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on November 09, 2006, 07:29:41 PM
Queenstown is becoming so touristy though. All those big hotels are ruining the place. Still, Lake Wakatipu is ever glorious. I assume you meant "Gorrrrre" said with a scottish accent as some of the locals still speak.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on November 09, 2006, 10:19:54 PM
G'dayers,

You might be interested to see God On My Side with Andrew Denton.

He does his usual fine job, with no Michael-Boore-ish tactics.  Just lets people speak.  Mostly, they're harmless, but some are clearly far from the cuckoo's nest.  Good film.

-- stephen
Title: Re: G'day! Brokeback in high-definition!
Post by: BBM-Intern on November 10, 2006, 06:18:04 PM
Hi G'dayers,

If you haven't heard already, Brokeback is out on Blu-Ray disc, mainly available in the UK.  One source saying it's available from next Monday (13-Nov) onwards.  My oh my, if we've already discussed this endlessly, imagine when we can see more details.  But this is up against the HD-DVD format also available from next year.  Any thoughts about this?  Time to get that 1080i plasma screen to go with it, right?

Lem :-)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on November 11, 2006, 10:54:14 PM
You are hereby appointed to sit with your nose pressed against the screen to spot all the stuff that passed us by before.

Candy was supposed to be out on DVD this week but no-one seems to have it at present. I had to console myself by picking up a cheap copy of Two Hands.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ on November 12, 2006, 12:18:28 AM
Candy was supposed to be out on DVD this week but no-one seems to have it at present. I had to console myself by picking up a cheap copy of Two Hands.
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I saw it in the Video-EZ in Balmain yesterday
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on November 12, 2006, 02:51:40 AM
Hi folks -  that DVD you saw in Video-EZI Balmain, was it Two Hands or Candy?
BTW ... thanks again for Heath's old address in Bronte

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on November 19, 2006, 05:32:39 PM
Howdy Cowpokes,

Computer temporarily deceased (for an entire week, much to my aggravation) and Melbourne travels mean I've not logged on for what seems like 3 years. 

Melbourne was, as always, bloody fantastic.  New nephew cute as a million buttons and then some - was hard to leave, knowing I probably won't see him again for quite a few months.  Always a mild shock to realise just how small newborns are, and how beautiful and precious they are  :).  Watched our movie with my brother, which was a memorable experience.  Really powerful, and a bona fide bonding event.  The interesting thing was that he actually missed the opening scene  >:(, and only came into the room at the point Ennis collects the groceries at the bridge.  Naturally I assumed the whole effect would be lost - but no.  Quite the opposite in fact.  He GOT IT, in spades, and immediately  :o :o.  He was silent afterwards, saying only "f#@k .... that was ..... f#@k ........ shattering".   By the following morning he'd started in on the jokes  ::).  Nothing that hasn't been done to death here in the land of DC mind, and he did point out that only something that impacted as profoundly as BBM did could give him the fuel and interest to piss-take.  I was actually stunned at just how much of the dialogue he remembered - far far more than I did after my first viewing.  Seems to be a recurring theme amongst the straight males I know - they claim disinterest but mysteriously remember EVERY LITTLE DETAIL  ;D ;D.  At least my brother admitted the impact - god love him.

Look forward to catching up with you, Brian, when you return.  Glad to hear you're having such a lovely holiday, meantime.  Was quite envious when I read you'd been snowed upon!  Have the mountains there given you BBM moments?  Some similarities in landscape if I recall. 

Cheers all.  Whoever's out there  :-\

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on November 19, 2006, 07:18:33 PM
Wolf - so pleased your brother "enjoyed" it.  He was silent afterwards, saying only "f#@k .... that was ..... f#@k ........ shattering".     That sounds pretty good to me.

Isn't it strange how almost everyone who is moved initially talks about it in terms of physical violence being done to them. Being hit by an express train, falling down stairs, guts ripped open, etc.etc. You don't often hear "That was really moving" or some milksop expression like that. It's such a wrecking ball. No wonder we have to put ourselves back together afterwards, but like that damned coat-hanger, we never go exactly back to what we were before.

Shame about the IF awards and Heath. Better luck with the AFIs on 7th December. Apparently he was planning to come over last week but changed his mind after the papparazzi got excited.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on November 20, 2006, 04:27:03 PM
Mini, yes I suppose "f ....... shattering" etc does rather convey physical assault!  He did 'enjoy' it very much though.  Has since claimed it the best acting he's ever witnessed (he was primarily impressed with Jake's work, interestingly), and probably the best film, though he's resisting that last  ;D.

And you nailed it when you called it 'violence'.  can still remember how I felt the first time - a weird combination of wobbly bonelessness, atrial fibrillation, hot/cold chills, and a thumping gut ache.  don't think there was adequate brain function left to register any of the emotional happenings, not right then at least.  I remember racing out of the cinema, leaping into my car and then sitting with my head on steering wheel for a good 10 or 15 minutes, sobbing.

I'm not up on the current state of film awardery.  Was Heath nominated for something and then didn't get it?  Lordy me, he is very allergic to the paparazzi isn't he!  Surely he could disguise himself as a poor ranch-hand, circa 1963 - then only the finest, cleverest, most respectful folk would spot him  :P.

Off to check the gutters - some big fires burning higher up in the mountains - a reasonable distance from both mine and Brian's homes thankfully, but with today's expected 39c (you'll enjoy this weather, Mr Mellor!), one can't be too careful.  We're spitting distance from 270,000 hectares of bone dry wilderness, with only one narrow and winding road in or out of our little pocket of 30 odd houses.  We need some a that Brokeback weather - snow and hail! 

Cheers, W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on November 20, 2006, 04:33:26 PM
Wolf, I understand the gutter thing. I'm also in a high bushfire danger area. It's going to be a scary summer.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on November 20, 2006, 08:47:17 PM
Hi Everyone and especially Wolf
Got home last saturday night but have been trying to catch up (there were 50 pages to jump over in one thread I read). Did see a message from an Aussie named Dale who has only just seen our movie and found it gut wrenching (sound familiar?) I have pmed him to invite him over to us but have not had a reply.
Yes I loved Dunedin ( lovely and cool) and now as Wolf says have returned home to heatwave and bushfire threat. Oh well, as I just told the chemist, a person in NZ told me they are overdue for their next big earthquake. The chemist asked me which I would prefer. At least an earthquake is over and done with in a few minutes - the waiting for a bushfire to approach is the worst part.  Actually it is closer to me than Wolf thinks. If we get a strong northwesterly it can be here very quickly from its present location. The news has told our township to be prepared, I am thinking there is a highway and railway between it and me but it jumped both and thankfully also jumped my house (although I did not own it then) in 1977 from much the same position as it is now.
Am also trying to read the regular messages from madameshawshank. Am up to number 17 from Cologne but have numbers 18 to  24 waiting.  Perhaps Wolf we can meet up when she is home.  I do not think it can be long now. Perhaps Stephen can travel up to Glenbrook.
Feel guilty that todays' daily sheet told us to vote for the sexiest man from downunder. There is Eric Bana, Russell Crowe, Hugh Jackman and Heath Ledger and sorry I voted for Hugh. I do not think he would have done as good as a job as Ennis but he makes me go all weak at the knees :-) Wish I could have afforded to see him at the Entertainment Centre.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on November 21, 2006, 06:48:37 AM
Hey Brian, I exchanged many posts with him, but nothing recently. He appears to have had unfortunate experiences. I hope he's OK.

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on November 21, 2006, 07:32:30 PM
Mini, hadn't realised you were in the bush too.  Hope you're getting a little relief from this awful weather down there.  Scary, indeed!

Brian, welcome home you  :).  Not sure about the earthquake vs bushfire - though you have a point re: waiting for it to happen.  This wind is really getting worrying .... it's picked up quite a bit since midday and I can see now that the front would be heading in your general direction  :-\ :-\.   Do you have an evac plan?  Where will you go if you need to leave? 

Re: sexiest Aussie male.  I'd have to pick Eric Bana out of that lot.  he's not especially my type physically, but his early work in comedy lends him a certain sexiness.  I love a man who can make me laugh  :).  My sister is a Hugh fan.  She sat directly behind and a bit to the left of him during the closing ceremony of the Sydney Olympics and swooned her way through the event  ;D.  meanwhile, poor dear Heath .... not doing too well is he! 

look forward very much to catching up with you and Mme.  was at Mash this morning with "the ladies" and thought of both of you.  we'll have a nice long, cake-heavy lunch and talk about our boys  :P :).  would be lovely to have Mr Mellor join us - do please consider, Mr M!

Will go and listen to 702 again now - get the latest from Mr Kopperberg.  Brian, I'll log on again later this afternoon and see how you're travelling.  Stay in touch if possible. 

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on November 22, 2006, 01:30:20 AM
g'day, g'dayers

hope the fires are staying well clear of everyone  :( :-\

it's seriously murky and strangely orange here in Sydney, and bits of ash are starting to fall from the sky  :(

just popping in for another Teddy Thompson plug  ;D - if anyone has a chance to catch a show, don't miss out! I saw him last night at the Basement and he was wonderful! It's just him and a guitar (with wayward strings that kept breaking  :D): no Brokeback tracks (boo! >:( ;) ) but what a fantastic voice, a wicked sense of humour and a collection of great songs.

k
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on November 22, 2006, 11:40:08 PM
Brian, thinking of you, up there in the smoke.  Tried to log on last night but service provider had apparently gone pear shaped  ::).

Kaz, amazing to think you've getting ashed on in Sydney.  amazing and alarming.  I envy your Teddy Thomson gig-going meanwhile.  I love his voice!

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on November 23, 2006, 12:28:42 AM
Thanks Wolf
All OK here now, wind blowing most smoke away just occasional whiff.   Went to Chatswood yesterday and I think the smoke was worse down there. Loved the cool morning today but it will not last long. From what I can gather Madame is now in London and should be home early next week.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on November 23, 2006, 04:25:01 AM
Hi Wolf (and all),

Just saw on the news about "poor little Linden" .... sheesh!!!!
Hope all you mountain folks' properties are safe and sound up yonder!!
I remember a big fire in the mid 80s while living at Faulconbridge ... not nice!

Kaz - what was the crowd like for the Teddy Thompson concert that you attended?
I'm lining-up his concert in Fremantle next week - don't know what to expect(?)
...L
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on November 23, 2006, 04:21:17 PM
Luke, actually thought of you during the fire dramas on wednesday .... remembered you'd lived here in the mtns etc.  Wondered if you'd had any fire scares during your time here.  Turns out you did  :-\.  Enjoy Teddy, again, I'll state my envy, just for the record  ;).  As for what to expect, I'd be in same boat .. have NO clue as to what the man does during an average gig.  Since he has such an angelic voice, s'pose it won't matter too much!

Brian, phew!  glad all well.  For a while there late on wednesday I was quite worried aobut you.  Fingers crossed we don't have any more hot weather before this beast is contained.  Great news about Mme S.  Can't wait to hear about her adventures.  Wonder if she met any Brokies during her travels  ;D.

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on November 23, 2006, 05:14:04 PM
If anyone could find other brokies, Mme could. Does anyone else occasionally drop the B-word quite loudly in public in the hopes of finding someone else? I know that if I heard someone say it I'd be over in a shot.

Pleased the fire situation has eased. Frankly, brian, I'd opt for earthquakes, having experienced both.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on November 23, 2006, 10:58:55 PM
hi all,

Luke - I had no idea what to expect either, but there was nothing to be alarmed about  ;) Don’t know if you’re familiar with the Basement? It’s a small venue, only fits a couple of hundred punters, I’d guess…..mostly seated, much more civilised than the pubs where I usually see bands  :). The crowd was shall I say... 'mature', on the whole (well, older than me anyway  :D). Apart from one pair who arrived late, wedged themselves into a tiny space right in front of a friend of mine, and whose mobile rang during the support act  >:( >:( it was a very well-behaved and appreciative audience, not much talking during the performance, except during a short gap in proceedings when Teddy was having trouble replacing a broken string  :D. What was unexpected was being cajoled into a sing-along… He’s recently contributed a track on Rogue’s Gallery, a compilation cd of pirate songs and sea shantys, and he had us all singing the chorus – something about spending all our money on Sally Brown.... ::) said we were the best pirates he’d heard so far *blush*  ;D Even my husband was singing along ….LOL

It was a really great, intimate evening - all about the music; no bells and whistles, just him, a guitar, and a stool covered in packets of spare guitar strings  ;D. A little bit of banter (he's a very funny man) and lots of goose-bump inducing singing (such a voice!)

If you get the same up close and personal show that I saw, you’re in for a treat. Hope you enjoy it, and really glad to hear the fire situation is easing. It's going to be long summer.......

cheers
Karen
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on November 24, 2006, 06:16:54 AM
Does anyone else occasionally drop the B-word quite loudly in public in the hopes of finding someone else? I know that if I heard someone say it I'd be over in a shot.

M Angel - funny you should say that  :-\ I was at a party last week, there was a woman talking to another quietly in a corner (friends of a friend, I didn't know either of them) and my radar just went off - I'm not even sure what I half-heard but I just knew she was talking about Brokeback so I sort of sidled over and listened some more 8) as she went through the plot.... until I heard her tell her friend with great certainty that Jack got gaybashed by three guys and that Lureen was lying in her phone conversation with Ennis as her way of dealing with it ....and I had to fight so hard not to leap at her shouting No! NO! you've got it all wrong!! You're taking it too literally!That's Ennis's POV, not a flashback! Possibly! It's all subject to interpretation. 99 different kinds of interpretation. Haven't you read the story? Don't you know anything about Annie Proulx??!!!

*sigh*

At that point I realised that it would be best if I didn't actually say anything at all, seeing as I couldn't trust myself to say anything that would sound rational to someone who wasn't a DC forum member  ::) so I just went and got another beer  :( :-[

For a moment, I thought like you did - I had hope of finding someone else, but then she shot my airplane out of the sky ..... ;D

We are all of us here for a reason - it's not safe out there for us :) :) Nobody else understands   ... ;D ;D



Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on November 24, 2006, 07:25:36 AM
Nobody else understands!!! I love that.

As it happens I just PMed Canstandit with my theory that Jack dies through subconsciously over-inflating the tire. After Ennis's collapse, which he misreads as rejection, Jack puts up a front with a fake story to his dad then goes back to Texas and gives up the fight. I'm deadly serious. I think that's how the story reads. No outside influence.

Now I intend to go to bed and have a good cry!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on November 25, 2006, 12:01:51 AM
well, as theories go I've read crazier  ;)

But seriously, it's plausible and I suppose being in the "accident" camp is slightly more comforting in a way than the "hate crime" corner - although the idea of Jack finally giving up makes me weep  :'( .......thanks for that Mini Angel!! it's been a couple of days since Brokeback made me cry ...(I've been sticking to the happy slash :D)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on November 25, 2006, 02:30:31 AM
Not so much that he finally gives up, just that at the time of his death he was in that frame of mind. I think he would have turned up in November. He'd have at least partially got over his feelings. Except that he died.

However, I'm sure if people wanted to get stuck into this discussion they'd get into the film threads so I won't ear-bash our sweet G'Dayers.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ImEnnisShesJack on November 25, 2006, 06:38:26 PM
G'day!

Dave has an important announcement about the forum, which he asks all members to read:

http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=18085.msg602098#msg602098

We have set up a thread to discuss the situation. That discussion thread is linked from the post directly below the message from Dave. Follow the above link and you'll get to both.

Thanks
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on November 26, 2006, 01:01:08 AM
Hi All
Kazinoz ... Thanks so much for your reply Karen - exactly the info I wanted and needed to hear. Embarrassingly, I had never heard of Teddy until I bought the BBM soundtrack and I didn't know where to "fit" his genre of music ... hence, I couldn't get a handle on what "types" would be at his concerts ... so, your rundown did the trick .. I've lined-up his only concert in the Perth area on Fri Dec/1 - looking forward to it and I'll keep you "posted"
Thanks again
-L

To all you other folk up there in the mountains... I hope you and your properties all escaped the fires unscathed and things aren't too stressful in your communities as you "mop up". I remember what it was like living through a big one back in the mid-80's up there that came very close to our property, and as unpleasant and stressful as such a threat is, the infrequent occurrence of such things is far outweighed by the benefits of living in such a beautiful area .... I miss it.
All the best to you all
-L
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on November 26, 2006, 07:17:02 PM
Hellos to Luke, Mini, Kaz, Brian & Intern (and any lurkers!)

Just logged on to see if there was any news from Mme S.  Read TDS and went  :o.  Suppose it was bound to happen, but when you consider it's just one dud out of 5000 souls ....... goes to show that our movie really does bring out the best in people  :).

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on November 27, 2006, 05:10:37 PM
Wolf ... me too ... it was the last thing I expected to read ... and, as you say "1 in 5000" aint too bad!!!  Quite a shame tho, when you consider the lovely "nature" of all aspects of this board.
All the best folks
-L
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on November 30, 2006, 03:08:49 AM
hi Luke

no need to be embarrassed - I'd never heard of him either ;D That BBM soundtrack opened my eyes (and ipod!) to a whole lot of new music - I never thought I'd have Willlie Nelson on high rotation, for example  ;D ;D ;D

Now I just need to drop hints about those Rufus Wainwright CDs I want for Christmas ..... ::)

enjoy the show tomorrow!

k
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on November 30, 2006, 06:00:52 PM
cheers all,

just a quick check to see if any news from Brian and/or Mme S. 

how'd the Teddy Thomson gig go, Luke? 

howdy to Kaz - it is ODD having Willie Nelson blasting out of the car stereo, non?  ;D ;D ;D

w

anyone watched our movie lately?  been thinking about it much in past week or two.   marvelling over the fact it just keeps on giving, no matter how many times it's viewed.

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on November 30, 2006, 06:14:59 PM
cheers all,

just a quick check to see if any news from Brian and/or Mme S. 

I am still reading Wolf but no news.
Enjoying cool days like yesterday bu not enjoying hot and smoky days like today. I think Mme would be home by now but probably has a lot to catch up.
Did people see that in the Nikon-Walkley awards last night the portrait photography award went to Steven Siewert for "Brokeback Mountain Cowboy" That was on the front page of the Herald with the story about the guy who was a real horse rider and met Heath (I think on the set of Ned Kelly) There was a later Australian story episode about him and how he overcame the demons of acknowledging he is gay
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on November 30, 2006, 06:49:40 PM

anyone watched our movie lately?  been thinking about it much in past week or two.   marvelling over the fact it just keeps on giving, no matter how many times it's viewed.



I haven't watched it properly since October at the Astor, although I've watched the start through to somewhere pre-FNIT one day when I was babysitting, plus checked on one or two things that people have mentioned on the threads. I've lost the feeling that I HAVE to watch it, but I've also lost the worry that one day it will lose its magic. It will never do that.

I played the CD for the first time in a few weeks and started crying at Willie! I know the rest is going to be rough when that happens. It was.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on November 30, 2006, 07:20:03 PM
Mini, I also used to fret about the magic one day evaporating.  Felt sure that, as with all other movies, ultimately it'll be just that, another movie.  Like you, I now realise that'll never happen.  Probably it's more akin to taking communion or some such.  Catholics do it all their lives, yet it retains it's power.

Alarm bells must ring if the weepies start with Willie!  ;D. 

Brian, it must be VERY smokey where you are, since it's tres ordinnaire down here  :-\.  Thanks for the info on Mme S.  I imagine she has much better things to after 10 weeks away, quite right.  Still, I'll continue to wait in happy anticipation of her return to the fold  :).  And our return to Mash for cake  :P. 

You might be interested to know that my local Blockbuster franchisee, who's praises I often sing, is seriously considering building a mini-theatre (seating 12) in the vacant shop next to his (he owns both).  It would be primarily used for themed marathons .... Buffy, Star Trek, John Wayne, whatever, but most importantly, it'll be available for hire!  Thumping big screen, plush seats, nibblies and coffee/tea etc, professional projection equip and operator.  Oh the possibilities ...........  we could have Jake marathons, heath marathons, bbm nights, more bbm nights, and some more bbm nights for good measure. 

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on December 01, 2006, 04:58:41 AM
hi Wolf

did I just see you pop up on the slash thread?

welcome to the dark side!! ;D ;D

karen
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on December 02, 2006, 03:09:41 PM
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m222/madameshawshank/Gollnow-0176.jpg)

there now...proof positive I've been a thinkin' of youse all...taken in a Polish supermarket...it's been a truly amazing 10 weeks...jetlagged a little...taking a wee bit of time to get back into the swing of this life...you know...chopping onions and such...golly by this time in the day I'd already be standing in front of Martin Luther's pulpit....or walking the staircase of the Prince-bishop's residence in Wurzburg (UNESCO site)....and on and on....so bit by bit I'm dipping back into my "life before the 10-week journey"...hugs lovely pals...have another snap up my sleeve to share...

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on December 02, 2006, 03:17:54 PM
Welcome back Mme. Was nearly going to email you today as I was sure you were home by now. We have so much to catch up on so hope we can meet with Wolf in Glenbrook soon.
Have just informed the Christmas thread how different things are here in OZ. Snow!!!!  I wish. Thankfully cooler now after a stinking day on Friday.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on December 02, 2006, 03:25:55 PM
the trusty Lonely Planet guides were fabulous....read of a memorial in Frankfurt..to those murdered during the Holocaust because of their sexuality...there was a note adding that the head was supposed to be partially severed...I was expecting I'm not sure what...something monumental in scale...not quite sure what...and here I am, typing, with goosebumps at the memory...a pal told me once that when you experience goose bumps pay attention...it is a special moment..so there, sweet and lovely friends....must be the angels welcoming me home...to all my homes... ;) ;)

I was taken aback with this image...turned a corner..and there it was...oh, an angel I thought...on closer inspection both wings are broken...one almost snapped in half...the other..lower...and the angels head...sawn...such a powerful sculpture/I sensed angelic pain...I sensed hope in the face of despair/I thought of how easily we are programmed to hate

....it is in a place in Frankfurt where sexuality is celebrated...whatever the version....thought I'd share this with you....it isn't the clearest photo..however it is the one with the most detail.....as I stood alongside this dear angel I thought of this forum..of  Annie...of the lads...of those still hiiding in fear....of those wondering about coming out....of the why of sexuality...of whether it is elsewhere in those other universes....and so on....

so, darling ones...'tis lovely to be back...still much to do on the home front....getting both it and moi back on some kind of path...however I am hopeful ;)

Glenbrook soon? ;)

(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m222/madameshawshank/FrankfurtA-0083.jpg)

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on December 02, 2006, 03:50:30 PM
Thanks for this Joan. You inspired me to google the terms and I found this site
http://andrejkoymasky.com/mem/holocaust/ho08.html
which tells the story of this and other memorials and also describes a memorial in Sydney. It is so disappointing to read of the objections of some people to gay memorials at holocaust sites. I have visited a number and ended up sobbing my heart out after a few hours wandering through Auschwitz.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on December 02, 2006, 04:37:13 PM
sweetheart...those who object have simply been programmed to hate...they haven't taken time to stop and create themselves..until that is done Brian, those who object are simply puppets....speaking for the puppetmasters of hate....

dry those tears my dear....and pour some precious something or other into a glass...and sip and enjoy this cool day...golly I've got to get back to house chores for a wee bit!....basic stuff that calls for action ;)


thanks for the link too Brian...when I finally get around to the Frankfurt chapter I'll use the information for sure....I must have been so taken by the angel I can't even recall the benches or the boxhedge....however I was with two others who only really wanted to stay a while..because we had much to do that day....part of my soul stayed with the angel.....hugging....as ever...with love
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on December 02, 2006, 06:03:15 PM
Welcome back, mme! On an impulse (following the call of those goosebumps) I reposted your angel pic onto the Character Analysis of Jack Twist thread. Well, it's obvious I like the angel thing.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: CANSTANDIT on December 02, 2006, 07:46:29 PM
G'Day, All! Have not been over here in a while; sounds like big doins with brush fires-hope none of you are in harm's way-we to have our  fire season in the higher deserts out there, where it's drier and lotsa treeline occurrences....

Enjoyed MM's beautiful angel photo; and the BBM poster, too. Many thanks to Mini for reposting it...

I saw a post  about Most Sexy Austrailian, or something like that? I have always like Guy Pierce, and of course Anthony LaPaglia, not to mention his cute bro-You'd almost not know Anthony was, as he's got the various tri-state accents down so well..(NY, NJersey and....CT if I remember....) I really love his movies, esp "Bulletproof Heart"...
This is not counting young Mr. Ledger ,of course...

Well, hope all goes safely with those damn fires; just droppin in to say 'hey'....
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on December 02, 2006, 09:33:34 PM
canstandit...I recently saw a photo of Mr Guy in his Andy Warhol outfit...he looks amazing...the shock of the hair...Sienna Miller is also in the film....too cold today for fires in this neck of the woods...hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on December 02, 2006, 10:24:24 PM
Hey all, its been awhile since I was here, I seem to spend so much time reading Slash and the Slash thread its beyond funny...watched BBM the other night...cant say why, I just needed to and have been in pieces since.

And its been nearly a year. And you are right, Kaz, no one else understands! Except this forum.  :)

Am I right in thinking that most of you are Sydney area? You would think by this long I would have got it.  ::)

Best wishes to all of you.  :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on December 03, 2006, 06:24:38 PM
I've got back to playing the music. Last night I played all the film stuff that isn't on the CD (except Tammy Wynette - I draw the line somewhere!) and then went to bed and had the biggest cry I've had in a long while. I kept thinking of Ennis waking up with the wet pillow.

Lolita - I'm in Melbourne. And I'm writing an AU! At long last. Not very alternative, being the miserable canon-type person I am, but I'm thoroughly enjoying the process.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on December 04, 2006, 07:50:13 PM
Greetings all

Mme, my dear friend, can't say how pleased I am to see you've returned safely, and full of the joy of your adventures  :) :) :).  We must indeed, Mash it ASAP.  Group hug will be in order, methinks (hope you don't mind being smothered by two crazy Brokeback woman, Brian!).  Look forward to hearing your stories.

Loved your pics, BTW, especially the Polish supermarket display - what fun it'd be to collect all the non-english posters for our movie  :P.  The Jack Twist Angel was magnificent, and a little bit heartbreaking  :'(.

You've just reminded me of Guy Pearce in his Andy incarnation ....... Mr Pearce is a very fine actor, and he suits the role to a T, with his pronounced bone structure and affinity for the melancholic.

CSI, howdy to you  :).  Fires seem to be under control for the moment, but given our summer is cracking up to be a doozy, it's probably going to be a constant for the next few months. 

Lolita, and Howdy to you too!  Did you ask if I'd made a fleeting visit to Slashland?  ok, it was me, I confess  :-[.  Actually I lurk there quite a bit, but as per my post, have always been too timid to join in.  Your whacky slashspeak has me perplexed!  FTR (speaking of abbrevs), I'm on Sydney fringe.  Or rather, just beyong the fringe.  A bit jealous of your recent viewing - haven't seen it for almost a month and feeling a bit antsy!

Mini, oooh ........ you're writing an AU   :) :P  :). 

Greetings to Brian, Mr Mellor, Intern and Luke.  Where are our boys, now that I think on it?

Cheers all. 

W

oops, nearly forgot.  met a women yesterday with the surname De la mar.  On further enquiry, she advised it was actually a corruption of ..... yep, you guessed it.  Del mar.  oi vay!

anther welcome home hug to Mme. 

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on December 05, 2006, 05:12:03 PM
hi darlings...still taking a little while to get back into the swing of things....10 weeks on the road..and all of a sudden....stop!...about to make a plum pudding for our nephew who put us up in London...

ok..to the point Joanie..to the point..

did anyone see the end of the Test match yesterday....we were able to watch the last 2 hours of the game...

when the last run was made....Hussey jumped a zillion feet into the air....the photo is spectacular...

the Oz team raced onto the ground and then the hugs....I tell you Heath and Jake could have learnt something from those embraces....

I got to thinking about the fact that THOSE man to man embraces are all fine and dandy in the open....as long as they're sports-related hugs.  If those facial expressions are enlarged..methinks the players would get a bit of a shock..methinks...at the passion in the faces....the love....it was sheer free-fall .....

and ok, because it was connected to sport....

hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on December 05, 2006, 08:03:00 PM
Joansworth,

those man to man hugs are unique, IMHO.  a man will never hug a woman as fiercely as he does another man (in the name of sport, natch  ::)).  those blokes literally run at each other and look like they want to climb inside their opposite number.  we girls seem to get a watered down version  :-\.  even my dear old dad (who's a mad hugger, god love 'im) does a much better job of it when greeting my brother than he does with myself and sis.  it's all bear-like and emphatic with bro, but sorta polite and insipid with us  >:(.

just more of the same I suppose.  that being that men love in such a unique and beautiful way.  when they give themselves permission to be authentic males, the fierce beauty of that love is something to behold.  sport is the only arena in which many men can be authentic, apparently.  gay men (and you'll forgive my pontificating here, I like to imagine I know what I'm talking about  :P) are indeed blessed to have the freedom to be as male as they want to be.

husboire watched the cricket last night, but not I.  too busy negotiating with smallest child re: sleep  :-\.  did, however, watch the thing on chinese sweatshops.  it got me so cranky I flounced off to bed in a huff  ;D ;D.  should add that the crankiness was not on behalf of the sweatees, but rather the fact we're not wealthy enough to boycott chinese manufactured clothing. 

incidentally, I'm about to go and reply to your pm, but life might intervene before I get there.  In case I don't make it, yes, Mash next week please!  and yes, gentleness is THE word  :).

W

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on December 05, 2006, 11:00:06 PM
terrific methinks!....am in need of mountain chat of a kind....is Mr Brian about I wonder....

ok...you wrote of the man to man hugs....like to share thoughts on the woman to woman hugs?

I'm wondering if mine are different...think not...I simply hugggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg ;) and enjoy the process...love the process of hugging...like tending a soul...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on December 06, 2006, 12:39:30 PM
I am around .just very busy. Delivery of soil/sand/gravel this morning then have a local lad arriving to help me with new path. Then meet my sister for lunch in Springwood before we go and make bookings for USA and France next April (yea). Would love to meet next week but program already getting crowded. All my little groups are having Chrissie parties so let me know time and date as soon as possible please.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on December 06, 2006, 06:43:48 PM
Boo!

Joansworth, woman to woman hugs ......... hmmmm.  have had a think about it and came to conclusion that they can certainly have a ferocity to them, they frequently have an additional element, which while being another aspect of love, can tend to cancel out joyful ferocity.  and that element is nuture.  There's something almost maternal in many of the hugs we girls give eachother.  The same protective, soothing 'something' that we give to our children when they've skinned a knee.

Looks like Brian is pretty busy next week m'dear, so I'm happy to whatever you want.  We could do cake this coming tues, then again the following week with B, or just wait for B to find an opening in his hectic schedule!

W

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on December 06, 2006, 08:00:52 PM
Wolfie Darlin'...Tues sounds fine 'n dandy....mash! 'n the hour?  so yummy to be almost...well make a decision Joanie...not almost...AM back in the swing of things....the clever folk are those who live IN the moment....that is to be my creed...be IN the moment....let's see how I travel with that one.....watch out! there could be ramifications....hugs as ever and ever Amen
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on December 07, 2006, 06:35:58 PM
Morning dears. Wasn't that lovely seeing our Heath getting some recognition for a change. And wasn't he lovely too. A lad we can all be proud of.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on December 07, 2006, 07:24:16 PM
indeed indeed indeed! :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on December 07, 2006, 09:15:30 PM
Heath? recognition?  what what?

michealflanagansf, haven't done any Tim Winton thus far (shame on moi), but inclined now to go and give Dirt Music a try!

super w/e to yooz all

W

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ausrave on December 08, 2006, 07:34:02 AM
Hi, just popping in to say hello after MA told me about this place. :)

I'm more of a lurker rather than a poster hence the low post count.  I've been aware of this forum since pre-Oscar days thanks to the Oprah site.  And why the hell I was at the Oprah site is something which I don't know. :D 

Anyway, it will be nice getting to know you all. :)

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on December 08, 2006, 07:40:35 AM
I'm amazed at how some folks just stop at lurking. I just can't help myself. I'm always jumping into arguments, occasionally with disastrous results. And discovering that the world is full of fascinating people, not a few of which are on this thread.

So welcome, ausrave!!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on December 08, 2006, 02:04:00 PM
Welcome Ausrave! I lurked for fully 6 weeks when I first came to the forum but the strange thing is, once you stop delurking, its addictive!

Michael dearest! *hugs and remembering our dinner in San Fran* I have read Dirt Music pre Slash days but have sadly never been to WA.  :-\

I agree with you Wolf about the 'maternal' aspect of the hug. Michael, who was it that had the 'gay' theory of the sheep being thrown at you in SF?

And it is wonderful that Heath is getting more recognition! Now we need Jake also to get some to even things out!

Mini, when are you planning to release your new AU!AU??  :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on December 08, 2006, 04:01:54 PM
Welcome Ausrave
Are you in WA or Qld? (saw comment about not being on daylight saving.)
I have Dirt Music, read it about 2 years ago and  sorry I hated it but then I do not go for the realism of modern novels. I love Dickens, Austen, Brontes etc .so you can write me off as being hopelessly dated.
It was very descriptive of WA in summer though (although I have not been there for 20 years or more).

I spent yesterday trying to fathom out hotel prices in the USA on internet sites. You see a good one then go further and find that is for a single bed ( I am travelling with my sister) and twin beds is a lot more, then go further and taxes are added then after collapsing with shock you see the website has recognised you are coming from Australia and changed the currency to Au so not quite so bad. Then you go to reviews and  find 5 good ones with one in between that says the hotel is the worst ever. Finally you book on a wing and a prayer. Worst thing is they debit your mastercard immediately despite not traveling until April. When it came to France things were so much better - I have been to all the hotels anyway and all they want is a mastercard number- more civilised.  I can see why people travel with tour groups but I like being independent.
I asked for advice on the travel sites on this forum a few months ago but there was a deafening silence.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on December 08, 2006, 04:34:22 PM
brianr - no good looking at me about travelling. I'm hoping to get my husband ov er to the States and beyond this winter but I can see it's going to be a scarey experience. You should see the stuff he packs just to go to New Zealand!

Ausrave, yes, I also wondered where you were. Perhaps in the country so beautifully described by Tim Winton? Sorry, brian, I really loved Dirt Music. Nothing wrong with the Brontes, though.

Lolita, I'm a fussy writer. This AU is in two parts. The first is pretty much ready but I've got a big scene in Part 2 that I want to get nailed down before anything gets posted. I've just realised that I have Ennis not swearing once while Jack turns the air blue every second paragraph! I'm actually supposed to be helping write a school centenary history but there's no Ennis or Jack in it so it's not grabbing my attention.

Here on Melbourne's outskirts the air is thick with smoke, all(I hope) drifting down from my beloved Kelly country. It does make checking for fires locally a bit more difficult. The delights of an Australian summer!

Have a pleasant safe weekend, everyone.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on December 09, 2006, 07:39:18 PM
Hi
Has everyone read the latest daily Sheet and learnt that Luke1 has found love on this forum. Congratulatons Luke. Not sure about the distance. I once met a guy in LA who was on his way to NZ and we were both saying with a common friend.  He was a Canadian and his partner was a Kiwi and I think they spent 4 months each year together in NZ and 4 months together in Canada , the other months living separately in between. Anyway Luke I wish you all the best and hope things work out.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on December 09, 2006, 07:44:31 PM
I've met Elskov a couple of times at BBM functions here in DC, and I can vouch for the fact that he is a very nice guy. I wish him and Luke all the best!

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on December 10, 2006, 03:38:56 PM
Luke, there are some more pics by Dave Djbdc9 on the DC thread, including some excellent ones of Elskov, that you might enjoy checking out. And if you're ever in this area, I'd just love to meet you!

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on December 10, 2006, 04:00:13 PM
Aww! Luke! I've gone all warm and fuzzy! (Perhaps I should have been kept in the fridge on these hot days.)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on December 10, 2006, 08:00:31 PM
quick visit to send my congrats to Luke.

well done you  :). 

wishing the two of you every happiness

w

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on December 12, 2006, 03:26:38 PM
Dear Dear Luke....a truly wondrous story....great news to read...when you do meet other than by screen/phone etc....when you do get to give each other hugs....can ya pretend one is from me....from me to ye both....keep journeying on my dear.....joy joy joy
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on December 12, 2006, 09:30:48 PM
Luke, sincere congrats...what a wonderful thing to experience...I wish you all the very best.  :)

Just out of curiousity, when did you all see BBM for the first time?

Everyone from the States saw it from the last December! Isnt it funny how we have had Candy out over here for so long that it is released on DVD and they are just going to view it now. Funny how these things work.  :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on December 12, 2006, 09:55:16 PM
9th February, the 11a.m. session, Knox City in Melbourne. Emblazoned on my brain. I put it off for a week because of a family wedding. I walked past the cinema the other week and went all gooey. How could I have known when I first went in there? I knew it would be a great film but.....!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on December 13, 2006, 02:55:17 AM
January 16th, 6.30 pm, the first of 2 sold out previews that night at the Academy Twin in Paddington, Sydney.

Went on my own, watched the film, cried a little. Got kicked out into a back street through the fire escape because the foyer was full of people queuing to get in to the late session, into the rain. Cried my heart out all the way to the train station. Cried all the way home on the train. 

Got picked up by husband at the station, who asked the simple question "how was your movie?", freaked out husband by bursting into tears .......

11 months later.......... :-\ :) :'(
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on December 13, 2006, 02:55:23 AM
9th February for me as well. At the Greater Union Theatre in Burwood (suburb of Sydney) I was annoyed because I  am a club member at the Dendy and they did not show it at the Quay but in Newtown, Their only showing in Newtown at that time on a Thursday (my only possible day) was  at morning mothers and babies sessions when the lights are left low so Mothers can bring  their prams (Ugh).  I did have my second viewing there two weeks later Feb 23 in the afternoon. I remember sitting in the Food Court with tears streaming down my face and I had read the story. I am often emotional at films but have always recovered by the end of the credits before but not for Brokeback.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on December 13, 2006, 12:50:11 PM
Mine was Jan 14th...we only had one cinema on the Coast playing it and I had been desperate to see it for weeks. My mum looked after my little girl and I drove there - it was the first time I had seen a movie on my own - I'm not a real movie person...like to just read books mostly.

I sat at the back not knowing what to expect and was lost - in another world. I wasnt even aware of the audience except feeling really indignant when people laughed at Alma at the Reunion kiss.

Left in a daze, a week later returned thinking that might help, I would break down crying at the hairdressers or driving...

And here I am.... :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on December 13, 2006, 01:18:13 PM
28th January for me at the Cinema complex at Moore Park.  I had been wanting to see it for weeks after reading some incredible reviews.  I'd read the book also.  A group of friends were going to see it with me but in the end only one other could make it.  I began crying half an hour before the end (I never cry at the movies) and was a mess all the way home - and it was a 2 hour drive.  That was followed by sleepless nights and breaking down at the most awkward times. 
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on December 15, 2006, 06:50:53 PM
Luke...may I join you in the "ashamed to say" group ;)...can't recall the date..maybe if I looked back through my diary...however can remember where...Newtown Dendy...with my nephew Sebastian...how did I walk back to the car? how did I drive home? how did I eat? how did I sleep? for days and days and days the story was in my BEing...I travelled with the lads...and then I travelled with all those in the story...that became even deeper....

then I wondered how I'd be seeing it again..wanting to, yet at the same time not wanting to....going to that place again...

I was full to the brim with tears....free flow...

I ached for all the Jacks and Ennises  ....

I ached for all those with masks.....

I hope that masks will fall as naturally as Autumn leaves....

how about that Lovely Oz Folk...we imagine masks falling as leaves...I'll imagine poplar leaves..my favourite tree of all....

how delicious to be back!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on December 15, 2006, 07:20:27 PM
While we're remembering "when", can I ask "why"?
Why did you all want to see it? What called you to it?

For my part, I had kept half an eye on Heath since he played my beloved Ned Kelly, so I'd heard about this "gay cowboy" film. Then I was sitting in my dentist's waiting room in about October last year and found a photo in a magazine of Heath doing the naked run to the water, and thought "What is this film?" I heard all the buzz but I don't go to the movies often, but somewhere inside, my little inner voice that I trust completely was saying "See this one!" Margaret Pomerantz crying as she reviewed it was the icing on the cake.

It took me nearly six weeks to find the courage to see it again.

(Argh! I was just thinking of that first viewing, the dawn country, the wind moaning, the guitar notes ringing out  three times, the weird thrill I got when "1963 Signal Wyoming" came up on screen, and a bird outside did a two-note call - almost perfect - THREE times, then stopped.)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on December 15, 2006, 07:51:29 PM
angel dear..I can remember Margaret reviewing..

MARGARET POMERANZ: For me, this is an absolutely perfect film in every way. So moving and so wonderfully done. David.

DAVID STRATTON: It is. It is, quite simply, a great love story. And it's done with such subtlety and such dignity and such grace. And as you say, Ang Lee is really an extraordinary director because he tackles so many different kinds of films. Who would believe that the man who made 'Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon' could make such a subtle, tender film as this.

MARGARET POMERANZ: After 'Hulk'.

DAVID STRATTON: After 'Hulk'.

MARGARET POMERANZ: But, you know, every shot in this film, I have seen it twice now, and second time you just look at what he does with that camera, and every shot has a point. Do you know, this is why I go to the movies, for the possibility of seeing something as good as this.

DAVID STRATTON: It's so graceful and so tender. So pertinent. And people have mocked Heath Ledger a little bit for some of the things he's done.

MARGARET POMERANZ: He's wonderful in this.

DAVID STRATTON: But he is fantastic. And so is, I mean, the two of them are really good. And the women are good, too. It just is a really terrific film. I'm gonna give this 5 out of 5.

MARGARET POMERANZ: Look! I would give it 10 out of 5. I just think it's so sublime.

DAVID STRATTON: You can't.

as to why I saw it....I guess it intrigued me...had read about the powerful acting...was drawn to it without perhaps knowing why....guess also that at times I've been the outsider in a particular group...the different one...so there was a sort of connection in a way...ah, big deep breath...it always is with me :)..the energy of that story...and those who brought it to us...

hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 16, 2006, 10:51:02 AM
Howdy!  You got any rail stories?  Tell us!  Here:

http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=18629.0
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on December 16, 2006, 03:13:21 PM
Howdy!  You got any rail stories?  Tell us!  Here:

http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=18629.0
Thanks Michael (I think) I have 2 obsessions Brokeback and Railways and now you are combining them for me.  :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 16, 2006, 03:25:56 PM
Howdy!  You got any rail stories?  Tell us!  Here:

http://davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=18629.0
Thanks Michael (I think) I have 2 obsessions Brokeback and Railways and now you are combining them for me.  :)

You bet Brian!  I am astounded at how many Railfans there are among us (including me)!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on December 16, 2006, 06:55:42 PM
http://imdb.com/title/tt0063683/dvd

Luke...I adore the chase..the looking..the "I'm sure the information is there somewhere" hunt...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063683/

1968

happy christmas!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on December 16, 2006, 07:03:03 PM
Ah MadameS! Well done. My own hunt took me to a blog of a 69yo lady with some naked lady piccies.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on December 16, 2006, 09:04:10 PM
thank you angel dear...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on December 18, 2006, 01:54:28 PM
Hi Everyone
Did you know you can vote for your favourite movie of 2006 at
http://www.abc.net.au/atthemovies/?
You can only vote for 3 movies from the one email address so you all know one you will choose :)
Unfortunately you cannot vote for the same movie more than once but I have 2 email addresses  ;D
On Sunday night in review Margaret and David both said the best international movie was BBM but then they both thought Candy and 10 Canoes were the best Australian movies  and I did not like either of them, Oh Well.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on December 18, 2006, 02:44:52 PM
I missed the Sunday program, Brian. Glad they thought that. Not surprising.
I've already voted once but I have plenty of email addresses to go!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on December 18, 2006, 04:38:41 PM
Howdy Cowpokes and Railfans  :P

Bit of a protracted stay in Real-Life-Land for moi, but have managed to squeeze a bit of puter time in - praise the lords.

Very interesting and happy-making to read all your reasons and rememberances of your 'first time'.  The question of why we went that first time is of particular interest to me.  What drove us to, in some cases (such as Lolita's) do something we'd normally not do in order to see this film. 

As my own reason ........ I'd been catching snippets of info about it for some time.  I knew that a) it was set in Wyoming, b) it was 1963, c) it involved horses, and d) Jake was in it.  From where I sat, that was pretty much a lethal combination.  almost potent enough to dissolve me on contact.  and there was added appeal via a non-formulaic love story.  all in theory at this point, mind you.  I ASSUMED that it'd be a jolly romp and a visual treat.  Probably spent a good 2 months hankering for it to appear locally, then another month trying to find an opportunity to go.  I very much felt this film had my name on it.  The drive to see it was unlike anything I'd experienced before.  I just knew I HAD to see it.  It was almost a feeling of it being essential to the rest of my life.  That somehow my life would be incomplete if I missed it.  In the end, it was an unexpected and unplanned viewing.  My mother happened to arrive for a visit on the day, with not much on her plate but an urge to spend some time with her granddaughter.  We were chatting about movies and I mentioned I was looking forward to BBM - she promptly dug out the local paper and found a session starting 30 minutes later.  I had no time to think about it - I just flew out the door!  Sat down in my seat up the back (there were about a dozen people all up and in the largest theatre in the complex - was having the place to myself) and thought, "yippee, what fun".  That internal smile of self-satisfaction was wiped off my 'face' about 90 seconds into the opening scene.  Oh yes, forgot to add that the date was Feb 10.

Luke, I've never heard of that film.  Was it subtitled?  Good luck with the hunt!

Brian, another train fool here  :-[.  One of the reasons we bought this house was because we're about 500 metres from the line.  Of course I can't really tell one train from another, but I do so love everything Rail.  The smells, the sounds, the romance of  it all.  Hubby and I lie in bed at night and say things like "it's 3am, that must be coal trucks".   Trains can wake me up any time  ;D.
Incidentally, I've never been to a mothers and babies movie session, but am trying to imagine a BBM punctuated by wailing infants and toddlers climbing over chairs.  Even for one so recently knee-deep in babydom, the very thought gives me the heebie jeebies  :-\.

Mini,  ;D ;D ;D at the nekkid 69 yr old.  That'll learn ya for not setting very specific search paramters  ;)

Got an early xmas present from hubby this past weekend.  Something I've wanted for about 10 years, but never quite got around to buying.  Not an inexpensive item so probably always felt it a bit indulgent or some such.  Silly, but there it is.  Anyway, it's a banjo, and a very nice one at that  :) :).  Am currently trying to remember everything I learned back in my guitar playing days.  It's a transferable skill, thankfully, so I'll be freaking out the neighbours (who are avid classical fans and most allergic to bluegrass) before too long  :P.

Cheers

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 19, 2006, 01:09:48 AM
Many thanks Mme ;D
and a happy christmas to you all

And here's a bit on Violette Leduc, the woman who initially wrote Thérèse et Isabelle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violette_Leduc
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 19, 2006, 01:26:47 AM
Thanks for that Michael. Have you seen T & E ?? If so, what were your thoughts?
BTW ... been busy .. hence no "Dirt Music" stuff ... getting stuck back into it today (is my guilt showing Sir?)

LOL!  Well...that's my job here!  To run in and throw books at people!  :D  It kind of makes me look like a mad person - but I wear it well.

And yes, c'mon back - we're having fun over there discussing whether or not Georgie is being a brat by swimming nekkid at her mum's wake.

No, I haven't seen the film - actually, I remember the book more than I do the movie.  In the 70s I worked in a bookstore in the midwest and started a Lesbian & Gay section - I had the book in the store.

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on December 19, 2006, 02:01:55 AM
Michael! You dont throw books! You have a flower as your weapon of choice as moderator!

Its so strange, Wolf...it was like I was fated to see the movie. And me, who has NEVER still to this day joined another forum, googled just about anything BBM I could. I cant believe I was so fortunate to find the DC site. Truly.

And after lurking for a month, I finally registered. Wow! They have threads called 'Jack and Ennis's sex life!' I started to post there...lol.

A beautiful man who I have met with his own amazing life story, MWP posted a canon one shot where Jack and Ennis were happy. I was mesmerized. I didnt even know what Slash was. And now, like 4000 posts made on the Slash thread, so many fics that I have lost count read about BBM and 50 written...its been the most amazing year.

I will never forget flying to the States and meeting these wonderful people, every bit as amazing in person. Its been such a priviledge.

And to read about the number of peoples lives that the movie has changed - I feel so connected to them all. Its wonderful to know its not just me that it had such an impact on. I saw the movie 16 times at the cinema, 8 of these were with friends and family. No one affected like I was. Its a puzzle.  :)

Okay, forgive my self indulgent long post but its been nearly a year now and no signs of abating.  :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on December 19, 2006, 05:21:53 AM
That internal smile of self-satisfaction was wiped off my 'face' about 90 seconds into the opening scene. 

Got an early xmas present from hubby this past weekend.  Something I've wanted for about 10 years, but never quite got around to buying.  Not an inexpensive item so probably always felt it a bit indulgent or some such.  Silly, but there it is.  Anyway, it's a banjo, and a very nice one at that  :) :).  Am currently trying to remember everything I learned back in my guitar playing days.  It's a transferable skill, thankfully, so I'll be freaking out the neighbours (who are avid classical fans and most allergic to bluegrass) before too long  :P.


Bluegrass! Love it!

Loved the 90 second comment too. Isn't it weird the way it just reached out from the start. I reckon all of us just KNEW!

Railfans, I have Puffing Billy running past my back garden - does that count?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on December 20, 2006, 05:01:40 PM
An announcement from the moderators about the slowdown problem that we’ve been experiencing at various times, centering from about 9:00 am until about 12:00 noon GMT:

The administration has been working extremely hard to solve the slow down issue that has been plaguing the forum for some months now. It has been determined that to solve this we will have to change the host company of the forum. The new host server has now been contracted with by Dave as of today.

We are proceeding rapidly now and hope to have the conversion complete within a few weeks at the latest and hopefully much sooner. We will keep you (members) apprised. Please look for announcements in the Newsbox. Some changes will likely come up suddenly--that is the nature of computer conversions, so it is impossible to know before we test whether something will go flawlessly and take two hours, or uncover thorny issues that will take days. The testing process is being started. This will not affect the forum at this point.

So taking this into consideration, we don't want to give you timeframes that are unrealistic. As soon as we finish a stage, we'll proceed immediately to the next, and the exact changeover will likely come on very short notice to you (members). We will post this changeover time in the Newsbox as well as in the individual threads, and will give you as much lead time as we can manage. This will enable us to end the slowdown ASAP.

Thank you for your patience.


Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on December 20, 2006, 06:08:00 PM
Just in case I don't get to the puter prior to Xmas, wishing all you dear folk a lovely day.  May your stockings runneth over  :).

Mini, Puffing Billy would surely qualify!.  Just sitting here listening to Jack Hatfield playing Cripple Creek and the tooting of a steam train on it's way up the mountains ....... does life get any better?  ;D.   Well yes it does ...... tonight, when not a creature is stirring, I might just put my favourite movie on  :P :P :P.

Brian, we must try to catch up as early as we can in the new year.  Seems like eons since we had our lovely morning at Mash!

Mme S, kisses and hugs to you, girl.  Send me a text when you get a minute so I can record your mob #. 

Cheers to Luke, Lolite, and anyone else lurking over Xmas.

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on December 21, 2006, 07:01:44 AM
Yes, Luke, I've been known to look around sometimes and say to myself, "I live here!"
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on December 21, 2006, 06:08:08 PM
Your moderator wishes you all a joyous Christmas and a peaceful New Year!
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Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on December 21, 2006, 07:10:19 PM
just wanted to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2007

the last 12 months have been amazing - who would have thought that a movie could have had such an impact; meant so much to so many.....I feel truly blessed to have been a part of it, so to all my fellow g'dayers - I wish you peace, love and happiness - and no bushfires!!!!!

have fun, and I'm sure I'll see you all back next year (if not before)!!!

all the best,

Karen  :) :)

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on December 21, 2006, 07:37:52 PM
What she said. Thanks, Karen.

The local ABC radio station asked people to ring and talk about their year. I didn't - too busy foruming - but I wonder how it would have sounded? "I saw a film, it changed my life"
Title: Hello Everybody !
Post by: campfire on December 23, 2006, 07:35:47 PM

 Hi Mini Angel, Lem, Wolf  and all G'dayer's

 I have been away from the forum since mid October, could not say Hi to you..

Wish you all Merry Christmas and a very happy new year..


Big Hugs

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on December 23, 2006, 08:42:19 PM
Hi there, campfire. I've been wondering where you'd got to.

Have a very Merry Christmas, and the same to everyone else on this thread.

Lem, played your lovely DVD again the other day - a treasured item.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on December 23, 2006, 08:46:02 PM
While I'm at it, I'll repost my Photo Caption post, with my very best wishes to you all.

(http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9797/bb1437jp.jpg)

Merry Christmas, everyone.
I hope Santa's sleigh is packed with all the goodies you want, need and deserve,
and especially lots of love and trust and hope for all of us.

And Merry Christmas to all the Jacks and Ennises.
May their sweet dreams come true for once.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on December 24, 2006, 02:07:19 PM
hugs of the season....whatever your celebration may be...I shall raise ma glass to ye all....how Christmas-like is that 'ye' ;)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on December 24, 2006, 06:29:48 PM
Merry Christmas to everyone! Hope its wonderful to you all.  :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: michaelflanagansf on December 25, 2006, 07:05:21 PM
Hopes for equal rights for the new year:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/po/20061222/co_po/2007couldbeyearforaustraliancivilunions
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on December 31, 2006, 02:22:16 AM
Hi Everyone
Was anyone watching the Channel 7 news tonight? At the end they were giving the usual review of the year's events for New Year's Eve and guess what music was playing in the background.
Yes the BBM theme.

Happy New Year everyone.

For those not here in OZ, the New Year is less than 4 hours away for us as I type.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on December 31, 2006, 05:55:32 AM
As I type, the New Year is nine minutes away. What an extraordinary year is coming to an end. This time last year I didn't have the faintest clue what was going to happen.
My New Year's resolution is to make this world a fitter place to live in for everyone, and I'll do my best so I can honour Jack and Ennis.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on December 31, 2006, 09:00:41 PM
2007 New Year greetings to youse all ;)

have a few 'must do' things on my plate at the moment...oh my ..am I ever looking forward to chillin' out here soon....

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ausrave on January 01, 2007, 06:07:16 AM
Happy new year everyone! :)

Just popping in to let you know that according to yourtv.com.au, tomorrow's (Tuesday) episode of Oprah is a repeat of the BBM segment featuring Jake & Heath.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on January 01, 2007, 09:17:52 AM
Oprah's on in Australia?! I never knew!

HAPPY SUMMERY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU IN THE LAND OF OZ!!!!!

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 01, 2007, 03:57:06 PM
There's no getting away from American "culture", Fritz.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on January 01, 2007, 04:51:51 PM
There's no getting away from American "culture", Fritz.

Especially in relation to Ms. W, culture in quotes is exactly right!

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 02, 2007, 04:09:39 PM
It's an interesting interview, isn't it. Pity Oprah's more into entertainment than information-gathering because there were some comments made that were never followed up on.

The lovely BBM_Intern gave campfire and me a copy on DVD so it's great to have it available. Otherwise I would have missed it completely.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 02, 2007, 06:02:18 PM
I think their sincerity really shone in that interview and others they did. You knew they were utterly devoted to this film. It's also good to see how, as you imply, they aren't the characters and yet by sheer brilliance and hard work they convince us they are those two lost souls. They didn't need any Oscars - we know they were exceptional.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ausrave on January 03, 2007, 05:44:02 AM
Ausrave - Thanks for that info about Oprah showing the BBM interview again. I hadn't seen it the first time ... it was a treat - Thanks again

Luke

Your welcome Luke. :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on January 03, 2007, 11:48:46 PM
Oh I just can't get enough of that Oprah BBM interview - I honestly think they way they interact together is so natural and it is my favorite interview with them.  :)

I also love it when Oprah asks Anne if Lureen knew and Jake puts his hand up! LOL.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on January 04, 2007, 09:47:38 PM
Go to iheartjake, Luke - you can save and download it.  :) They have every single tv interview or clip that Jake has ever done. And I've got all of em...lol. :D

If you want a link, pm me.
Title: Melbourne Moonlight Cinema - Brokeback
Post by: campfire on January 05, 2007, 04:33:12 AM
Hello Everyone,

I was checking the program at the Melbourne Moonlight Cinema - Botanical Gardens - today.

Take a look at the below link. .What will they show on 12/Jan Friday evening ?  :))

http://www.moonlight.com.au/sessions.php


Film starts at sundown , 7 pm.. Can you imagine, watching the start of the movie with a sunset background and a glass of red  ?

:)

Big Hugs to  you all

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 05, 2007, 04:52:53 AM
Campfire, that would be so great.  All those lovely mountains and sheep. Audience tears watering the Botanical Gardens!

Does any one have a copy of the AFI awards they can upload to YouTube? Just all the Heath bits. The Planet Heath boys and girls are feeling bereft. I only have it on tape.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on January 05, 2007, 05:02:46 AM
oh my god! It's on in Sydney then as well! thank you campfire - I had no idea!!! :-* :-* :-*

no - wait....

OH MY GOD!! It's my friend's birthday - what if she wants to go out to dinner or something? I'll have to pretend I've died.....


Mini - I have the AFIs recorded on the hard drive of a digital set top box, but I haven't the foggiest idea how to get it from that box into this box - does anybody out there?  ???
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 05, 2007, 05:19:24 AM
oh my god! It's on in Sydney then as well! thank you campfire - I had no idea!!! :-* :-* :-*

no - wait....

OH MY GOD!! It's my friend's birthday - what if she wants to go out to dinner or something? I'll have to pretend I've died.....


Mini - I have the AFIs recorded on the hard drive of a digital set top box, but I haven't the foggiest idea how to get it from that box into this box - does anybody out there?  ???


That's the spirit  ;D ;D ;D Take her to the flicks as a birthday treat.

I'm sure someone will know how to put things from one box to another. I'll go and ask.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on January 05, 2007, 07:57:15 PM
When in Sydney, Kaz? There are such cheap flights atm, i would LOVE to come down and see it with you!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on January 05, 2007, 08:36:23 PM
Next Friday 12th
It is also on that night in Melbourne, Brisbane and Adelaide.  Not in Perth until Feb 4
Anyone else interested in Sydney?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on January 06, 2007, 03:48:08 AM
hey! I said that without moving my lips! ;D (sorry Brian!)

Lola, that's dedication above and beyond the call of duty! Are you serious? :D Wouldn't Brisbane be easier (and slightly more sane  :D, if less fun!)
(oh! I've gotta tell you - I just loved your latest one shot - so beautiful, so sad  :'()

It's pretty cool that it's on the same night in four cities - do we know anyone in Adelaide? We could have a contingent in every city - be all together in spirit if not in flesh!

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on January 06, 2007, 04:14:37 AM
Wow, sorry, just saw Brian's post...so it is showing in Brisbane...

I just checked out some flights but they are all about $150 one way each...if anyone else knows about cheaper ones, let me know.

*looks around for Brisbane-ers* I dont know who else on the thread is from Brisbane. BBM Intern is but he hasnt posted for ages now. :-\
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on January 06, 2007, 04:27:48 AM
maybe this is the time to dislodge the lurkers? - there must be some hiding in the bushes ......( I'm speaking from experience here! 8))

speak up, if you're out there! How many more opportunities are any of us going to have to see BBM on a big screen?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on January 06, 2007, 04:31:15 AM
and we're not mad, really (not dangerous...)

it would be perfectly safe - if possibly a bit embarrassing (I'm thinking buckets of tears etc.... :'()
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 06, 2007, 05:21:55 AM
Do they do these screenings with headphones? At my local outdoor cinema they do. It would be so weird to have a bunch of people with headphones wailing out loud with no other sound around.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on January 06, 2007, 05:25:12 AM
BWAHAHAAAA!!!!

my god, that's an image!!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 06, 2007, 05:29:04 AM
...and in my case, shouting No! No! when the last night of their camping trip comes on. Or yelling Tell him you love him, you idiot! Or in the last scene telling Ennis to stop biting his lips and just have a good cry. Or when they first shake hands, yelling It will all end in tears!

The audience could be better value than the film for some.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 06, 2007, 07:43:10 AM
Luke, it's too hot in the eastern states to do anything much other than have fun on our favourite forum.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on January 06, 2007, 02:24:16 PM
Yeah Marian, you are all over the place! Which is a really good thing, I really gotta get out more... ::) :P

It's been too long. Is it totally wierd that one of my NY resolutions was to be more involved in other threads? Not less time on the thread...

Another was to write more.  ::)

OMG with the visuals of the headphones. I never thought of that and wouldn't like it, I don't think. :-\

Good idea about the lurkers Karen, I know that I lurked for soooo long...and I never have been on any other forum before. Saying that, i am going to book my ticket soon for the Second Slash Bash! Whoo hoo!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 06, 2007, 06:45:46 PM

Another was to write more.  ::)


Write more, please!!! I just read - damn, forgot what it's called - After Four Years???. Anyway, you know the one. Morning at the good old Siesta. Simply beautiful.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on January 06, 2007, 11:11:58 PM
Hi all!  I'd be interested in going to the Sydney viewing.  I haven't had a chance to meet Brian, Wolf or the other locals yet and this would be a good opportunity to meet up with everyone.

Lolita,  I've met another Brokie from Central Qld who has posted here a couple of times.  I'll tell her about it as she may be interested in coming down to Brisbane to see it there.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 07, 2007, 12:49:55 AM
ffrn, hello! I don't believe I know you. But then I do have a lousy memory for usernames.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on January 07, 2007, 01:55:37 AM
Hey ffrn! That is really kind of you.  :) I am still looking at fares but haven't seen any really cheap ones. Going to my BIL's wedding in Melbourne in a couple of months so saving for that.  :-\

I would so love one big DC Aussie get together somewhere, somehow...

Although Luke is SUCH a long way away.... :D
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on January 07, 2007, 03:04:57 AM
ffrn, hello! I don't believe I know you. But then I do have a lousy memory for usernames.

Not to worry!!  Brian and Wolfie know me.  I'm sure they'll give character references for me!! ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on January 07, 2007, 03:00:15 PM
I am having a few little get togethers in the States in April. I  am meeting DaveinPhilly in Philadelphia and now a lady named Bobbie has offered to show us around Washington DC. Americans are so kind and friendly, pity about their Government but then I could say the same about Australia !!!!
Am looking forward to these meetings but need to be careful that my sister doesn't feel she is being dragged on a BBM odyssey, after all she is the main reason I am going.
Am very tempted to go to Centennial Park on Friday night but it is almost like an overseas trip for me ;D a loooong way home afterwards. Is Tiina out there (cannot remember her forum name)? I think she lived in the eastern suburbs and was willing to go all the way to Katoomba to see our film with me.
Stephen says he will be back in early January but do not know how early. Madame are you there?
I doubt Wolf could get away.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on January 07, 2007, 03:11:43 PM
Well Newcastle is a lot closer, Luke.

Late Feb or March - around Sydney area is definitely do-able for me and it would be much more worth while to meet a few of the people on this forum.  :)

The States is looking like either Sept/Oct - Seattle or DC. We have a poll on the Slash thread. I am hoping that it will be organized soon so that I can book a ticket and its not TOO expensive, lol. But when there is about 50 people, its hard!

I just cannot wait because I feel I know these people so well, I read their fics, I chat daily to them.  :)

And it is sooo hard to not involve family. Luckily my husband can mind my daughter but I cant go for more than a week...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on January 07, 2007, 03:16:10 PM
I am having a few little get togethers in the States in April. I  am meeting DaveinPhilly in Philadelphia and now a lady named Bobbie has offered to show us around Washington DC. Americans are so kind and friendly, pity about their Government but then I could say the same about Australia !!!!
Am looking forward to these meetings but need to be careful that my sister doesn't feel she is being dragged on a BBM odyssey, after all she is the main reason I am going.
Am very tempted to go to Centennial Park on Friday night but it is almost like an overseas trip for me ;D a loooong way home afterwards. Is Tiina out there (cannot remember her forum name)? I think she lived in the eastern suburbs and was willing to go all the way to Katoomba to see our film with me.
Stephen says he will be back in early January but do not know how early. Madame are you there?
I doubt Wolf could get away.

Brian, let me and Jackie (PaintedShoes) know when you are in DC, perhaps we can meet you then.
And you'll like Bobbie, she's been to all of our get-togethers here.



Title: Re: G'day! Back with a vengeance!
Post by: BBM-Intern on January 09, 2007, 06:11:00 AM
Hey everyone, (esp Mini Angel, Campfire and Lolita) and all G'dayers,

Oooh, I'm having BBM-withdrawal symptoms.  Been travelling overseas (nearly a month), back to Malaysia to see my folks, so haven't had my daily dose of BBM to keep me going.  It was a small comfort though to have my PDA with the entire movie on it; twas a pity I couldn't get my hands on an ipaq 4700 so that I can view the movie in higher resolution.

Anyway, how exciting is this, BBM again on the big screen on Friday 12-Jan.  I will be at the Brisbane screening, unless the heavens bucket down with rain.  It's at the Brisbane Powerhouse in New Farm, so please come all dressed up - I want to see lots of folks as Ennis, Jack, Alma and Lureen.  Hell, you can come as LD and I'll still love you!

Let me know if you're coming - surely there must be other fans in Brisbane, time to come out of the woodwork!!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolitaray on January 09, 2007, 07:33:33 PM
I pm'd you BBM Intern...husband just told me he has a bucks night Friday. >:( Will do my best to get a baby sitter cause there is no way I am taking a 2 year old on the train to the movie. Nightmare scenario...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on January 09, 2007, 07:42:18 PM
Bucks night? That's a new expression for me. Is that anything like what we call a stag night in this country, guys only?

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 09, 2007, 08:42:00 PM
Bucks night? That's a new expression for me. Is that anything like what we call a stag night in this country, guys only?



That's the one, Fritz. female equivalent is a hens night.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on January 10, 2007, 04:48:56 AM
yeah, and why do we get to be chickens, when the blokes are always great big interesting animals?  >:(
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 10, 2007, 05:28:09 AM
Cows night? Just doesn't sound right, even pronounced with a Texan accent - kyow, as AP writes it.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on January 10, 2007, 09:55:18 AM
Does' nite? Hinds' night?

(Doe as in deer, a female deer, of course!)  :D

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 10, 2007, 08:55:33 PM
Ah, Fritz! You're a drop of golden sun  :D
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on January 10, 2007, 11:46:58 PM
well doe's better than cow I suppose..... :)

Is anyone a definite for the BBM screening in Sydney tomorrow night? Can you believe that the forecast is for possible evening thunderstorms?! >:( >:( >:(

karen
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on January 11, 2007, 03:28:38 AM
Sorry Karen,  I was hoping to be able to get there but can't.  :(  Oh well one day I'll meet up with all these Sydney Brokies!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 11, 2007, 06:59:42 AM


Is anyone a definite for the BBM screening in Sydney tomorrow night? Can you believe that the forecast is for possible evening thunderstorms?! >:( >:( >:(


Lighting! How appropriate. Throw in some hail and slippery rain and the odd snowfall and the boys will feel right at home.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on January 11, 2007, 02:34:41 PM
no drama, ffrn - I'm going to keep an eye on the sky and make a last-minute decision tonight. Fingers crossed!

and that's enough out of you Mini Angel! >:( If I'm sitting there on my picnic rug getting bombarded with hail and slippery rain ..... I don't care how authentic it makes the experience, I'll be sending curses your way!! ;)

Lolita - any luck with that babysitter? :)

hoo boy! It's been so long since I've seen BBM on a big screen - this is quite exciting! I haven't been to a Moonlight Cinema screening before....are people well-behaved? Don't want to have to go all "Ennis-at-the-4th of July fireworks" on annoying chatterers....  :D  :D


Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 11, 2007, 04:35:58 PM
It's a perfect day here in Melbourne (yes, they do exist) but I'm not sure I'll be going. It would be good but then again, a picnic setting and BBM together?

I think it's become such a personal experience that I'm finding it impossible to share. We'll see. And I'm sure the Moonlight Cinema audiences don't come with slop-bucket mouths, kaz!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on January 11, 2007, 08:43:49 PM
New Year Greetings to all.

Been very busy over xmas and away for a week on beautiful south coast of NSW (Eurobodalla National Park), getting in touch with my inner hippy  ;D.

Amazed to see our movie playing in different cities tonight - almost spooky that I chose today to return to the fold, only to be greeted by this information  :o.  Not that I can go of course  ::).  Hubby doesn't even know this forum exists, let alone that I actually meet and take tea with a couple of it's inhabitants.  He requires further preparation and priming before the whole truth of my obsession is revealed ... in all it's glory  ;D.

Mini, where is it that you live, if you can answer that in a public forum?  Sounds like somewhere very beautiful. 

Hello to ffrn!  Haven't heard from you in a while.  Are you still posting over at bettermost?  We must catch up soon!

Intern, where in Malaysia do your folks live?  Are they in KL?  Was it horribly hot and muggy over there?  Glad to have you back.  We miss your posts!

Mme S, I've sent you a pm.  Brian, we must arrange a coffee and cake morning soon.  Interested to hear of your travel plans!  Luke, Newcastle's just up the road  :).

Cheers

W

oh yeah, haven't watched our movie since 11th November  :o.  longest gap yet  :o :o :o.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Rockbern on January 11, 2007, 09:19:47 PM
Just about to get ready for my trip up the road to Centennial Park and BBM.  It starts in 4 hours but at my age I need all the time I can get.  Sun's still shinin'.  Touch wood.

In Sydney on holiday for a month or so from the Sunshine State.  Just love the rain - but not tonight, please.  Hope my rainwater tank in Brissie is full to overflowing - my garden needs it.

Will be very interested to see how BBM goes down with a Sydney audience.  I find Svdney-siders much more open and friendlier than us banana-benders up north - but it may be just me, in holiday mode.

I'll be the one with the bent banana round my neck!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 11, 2007, 09:32:35 PM
Wolf - Mini, where is it that you live, if you can answer that in a public forum?  Sounds like somewhere very beautiful. 

The Dandenongs. And yes, it is beautiful.
Title: Re: G'day! Saw BBM again, yayyy!
Post by: BBM-Intern on January 12, 2007, 07:06:05 AM
Well, my beautiful G'dayers,

I don't know about the rest of you, but I made time to attend the Moonlight Theatre screening of Brokeback tonight - Friday, 12-Jan-2007.  Well, not the perfect venue, but as someone else said, there were no slop-bucket mouths and the audience was respectfully silent and appreciative, EXCEPT for one (not quite) gentleman who fell asleep near us and snored loudly!  Of course there were sniggers during the scene when Alma discovers the boys kissing, but I knew they could feel her betrayal and my partner said later, "She should have won an award for just how she played that scene".  Amen to that, she seemed to age and crumple in half a minute.

Impressions this time, well, my mind was racing faster than ever, with my thoughts flip-flopping between the dialogue which I knew was to come, and the prose of the short story, or even the alternative script.  Minuses were the dimness of the screen, with lots of distracting outdoor light around, it made FNIT very hard to see.  I think that may have made the audience snigger even more, not that there is much explicitly to be seen.  Perhaps their imagination went into overdrive!  I'm sure the Gen-Y- folks of today would have copped a much bigger eyeful on any episode of say, "Queer as Folk".  Pluses were the clear speaker system, one could even hear phrases easily missed, "Later" (in the reunion) and "... jump a coyote..." in one of the later meetings.  Also, no rain, just a beautiful breeze, perfect weather really.  The mozzies were out and about tonight, but I found a new use for my Resistol - it's excellent for keeping one's hands mozzie free!  With the long-sleeved denim shirt, jeans and boots, they were hassling my hands, so I had them under the hat and that was the end of the problem.  Hmm, that western wear is sensible and practical, no?

So, hands up who else attended tonight?  Hey, it was meant to be my night, I won a prize in the SMS competition and got to lie on an extra-thick "bean bed" (like a bean bag, but longer) and $40 in vouchers for food and drink.  Well, as I will be hopefully going back later to see "Donnie Darko", so that'll come in handy!

Hey Wolfie, my folks are both in KL and Malacca (as in the Straits of Malacca).  KL was overcast and not too bad weather wise, it wasn't bucketing down with rain either, even though the monsoon season was on.  Just hazy days, but we spent most of our time indoors in shopping centres - there's so much to buy and prices so cheap they'll drive you shopping crazy!  Well, I did find a western-style shirt amongst my haul of loot this time - pearl-snap buttons and western yoke, yee-haw to that!  But as I said earlier, no ipaq 4700 PDA with that gorgeous 640x480 screen - I wanted that higher resolution to view BBM in its entirety better.  It works well enough on my ancient ipaq 3970, with BBM in separate chapters playing on PocketTV - fantastic to watch.  But, hopefully next trip in July, there'll be something even better - a BlueRay or HD-DVD player so I can get a high resolution picture on the plasma screen.  Imagine, seeing BBM in glorious high definition, wow!!

OK folks, so much for my rambles.  It's been a great day here in BrizVegas!

Love to you all.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on January 12, 2007, 01:55:39 PM
Hello to ffrn!  Haven't heard from you in a while.  Are you still posting over at bettermost?  We must catch up soon!

Hello Wolf!  Yes I'm still posting - lots of friends over there!  People with farms and livestock/horses etc seem to  find themselves on the same wavelength regardless of the country they live in.  We really must try and organise a meeting soon with the Blue Mountains/Sydney crowd.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on January 12, 2007, 02:43:22 PM
Hi everyone!

well, I sat in my office building yesterday watching the weather change, the winds pick up, the clouds roll in.....I was checking the radar image on the internet every half hour  :) trying to see where the nasty-looking storm was heading.... In the end I just thought "bugger it! it's only rain" and booked my ticket anyway.

And the gods were kind, after all. It was a bit breezy, and we had a few spatters of rain, but I particularly enjoyed the timing of the lightning. Every time there was thunder and lightning on Brokeback, Sydney obliged with a sympathetic echo!

Mini, I had the same misgivings as you about the 'picnic' setting, but it was actually ok. The audience was really well-behaved, perfectly silent through much of it, a little bit of sniggering during the FNIT, the usual laughter at poor Alma in the reunion scene  >:( . I think I could tell the people who hadn't seen the film before by the timing of their toilet breaks  :D I had to restrain myself from calling out "sit down you fools, you're missing a good bit!" to the 3 people who wandered off just before the FNIT, SNIT and Jack's "sweet life" scene, respectively.  ::) I myself couldn't quite make it to the "Cassie" scenes and had to sacrifice the Thanksgiving kitchen confrontation/Ennis getting beaten up by the trucker bit. Sorry, that was probably TMI!  ::) :D

The screen was a bit murky, sadly, so some of the detail, like facial expressions, was lost, and the tent scenes were darker than usual (dammit). The sound was ok, but I remember thinking that, what with the planes and the squeaking fruitbats overhead, and the wind in the trees combined with Ennis' mumbling :D that first-timers may probably have missed a lot of the dialogue. I had no such problems of course. I reckon I could recite the whole script by now!

Rockbern - I didn't see anyone with a banana  :D but then I wasn't really looking...Where were you sitting? Did you grab one of those bean-beds? They looked quite comfortable - next time I might invest in one myself. After a couple of hours on a damp rug, things start seizing up!!!

BBM-Intern, it sounds like you had a great night, even with the mozzie attacks! I was considering fronting up for Donnie Darko too, because I think it's the director's cut, which I haven't seen. Oh, and Candy is on later in the month as well (though it's not exactly a 'picnic' movie either...)

You know, Tuesday will be the anniversary of my first Brokeback screening.......A whole year, wow, and I'm still here, still crazy in love with this movie and these two men :-[. Seeing it again last night - well, the film has lost none of its impact, that's for sure. I cried all the way home the first time, and I did exactly the same thing last night.  :'( *sigh* I'm such a freak! ;)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 12, 2007, 08:40:48 PM
Freak? Hardly. Or you must be in the company of freaks.  Glad the screenings went well. I thought of you people out there with the boys.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on January 15, 2007, 06:43:55 PM
a few nanoseconds to give you all a hug....one gorgeous hug for all...

Brian...nice to know the Stephen is on his way back....have missed the lad....Wolfie....hope ya got my  pm....maybe Wed or Fri...only options for moi....hugs again to ye all....what a delightful bunch ;) ;)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on January 15, 2007, 07:39:45 PM
Boo!

Lovely to hear of your respective adventures at the 'picnic' screenings!  Was thinking about the sheer frustration of seeing first timers wander off for a wee at precisely the wrong moments  ;D.  A bit like my brother wandering in from the bathroom right at the END of the opening scene  :o ::) :o.

ffrn, perhaps we could do something when Luke gets here.  That'd be fabulous.  Maybe Stephen as well.  that'd be pretty fabulous.  possibly the biggest group yet!

mini, the dandies eh?.  now it makes sense  ;).  interesting to note that majority are either inner city or outter fringes ....... not many from the burbs at all. 

intern, my hubby was born in Kelantan and still has many relatives there.  Also a few in KL.  We haven't been back since before the kids arrived, but plan to return soon.  Was pleasantly reminded when reading your post that one is COMPELLED to spend much of one's time shopping while in KL  ;D.  Can't be walking the streets, taking in architectural wonders etc in that heat  :P.  Anyway, you've seen the National Mosque once, you've seen it a thousand times  ;).

Mme, pm received and bounced back to your court, girlie  :).

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 15, 2007, 10:53:19 PM
Stinking hot here so off to the beach with the grandkids. Thank goodness for aircon in cars.

I occasionally think of poor Ennis del Mar never seeing his namesake sea.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Rockbern on January 16, 2007, 10:58:51 AM


Rockbern - I didn't see anyone with a banana  :D but then I wasn't really looking...Where were you sitting? Did you grab one of those bean-beds? They looked quite comfortable - next time I might invest in one myself. After a couple of hours on a damp rug, things start seizing up!!!

 

Kas - The banana was in my pocket ... and it wasn't bent.  I did have on a banana coloured shirt though.

I broke-in a small, low, folding, shortened banana lounge [canvas stretched on an aluminium frame from Freedom] which was reasonably comfortable for the two hours plus.  Off the ground so no dampness or creepy crawlies.

I was sitting directly in front of the screen, behind the fenced-off section with the black bean-bags, with a tree close on my right.  My impressions were much the same as yours, though, as a first-timer to Moonlight Cinema, I arrived too early and had to wait 25 minutes until the gates opened.  The threatening weather was perfect - as you observed.

It was quite an experience watching the audience arrive and set themselves up - and what they brought with them.   One bloke, close to me, had a hamper nearly as big as himself and a very large blanket on which to spread himself out.  He poured  a flute of champagne and lay back with a cigarette - rather self indulgent and inconsiderate, I thought.

There were, what I assumed to be, gay couples as well as straight.  One gay couple was directly in front of me.  I have had little experience with observing gay relationships so closely, but was saddened to note that they didn't appear to show any real empathy towards each other.  They appeared very focused on consuming the intricately prepared picnic basket they had placed between them.  They were very well dressed, young [late 20s early 30s] and good looking - and appeared quite detached.  Perhaps I'm being an incurable romantic? 

I don't experience the same emotional turmoil I did at my initial encounter with this story.  Perhaps because I have obsessively over-analyzed every facet and nuance . . . but I always get something from it I didn't notice before - and I've seen it hundreds of times.

I think I may be closing, what Brokeback opened up.  Unlike yourself, tears don't come as easily - I wish they would.



Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on January 17, 2007, 07:36:27 PM
Cheers to all,

Rockbern, read yr post with interest.  I don't cry as readily as I used to - particularly if on my own.  I find I'm more moved when watching with a first-timer.  Some of their  :o :'( :o  rubs off.  Funny to think of someone lighting up a cig.  We're so used now to being in smoke-free places, that it struck as odd that someone would think it okay in a crowded environment like that. 

Had a  ;D ;D at the meticulously prepared gaybloke picnic.  Hope they didn't give more emotion and attention to their fois gras than they did Ennis and Jack!

A big shout out (as Ali G would say) to Brian.  We're meeting at Mash at 10.30 friday, if you're free.  We'd love to occlude our arteries with you  :).

w

just realised my last viewing of BBM was on Rememberance Day.  chuckle chuckle.  next likely viewing not for weeks, and then with a second timer who feels she didn't give it sufficient attention first time.  strong gut feeling she missed something very special etc.  she did like it, but had distinct sense of having something desirable and beautiful JUST out of arms reach.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on January 17, 2007, 10:30:41 PM
A big shout out (as Ali G would say) to Brian.  We're meeting at Mash at 10.30 friday, if you're free.  We'd love to occlude our arteries with you  :).
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Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on January 18, 2007, 04:13:40 PM
Wolfie 'n Brian....just about to take off...Mashing...good golly gosh methinks.......again and joyous again I think of Annie writing that story....in her wildest dreams could she ever have imagined this....that, through her story, 3 people will be meeting at a cafe at 10.30...to enjoy and share ....'n decide which scrumptious piece of cake will be ordered....

we will raise our glass/cups to ye all...and imagine the day we will all meet together...why not I reckon...why not...why ever not.....angels in charge of such matters bloody well get to work!

I'll have a glass because on this oh oh oh so hot day an iced chocolae seems to be THE drink for me....as ever..
hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on January 18, 2007, 08:17:37 PM
Lovely morning with Joan and Brian  :).

Large slabs of luscious cakes enjoyed in the airconditioned comfort of Mash's hip but restful interior.  Brian had sour cherry cheesecake, Joan had something gorgeously chocolatey, and I had the blueberry cheesecake.  Our arteries are nicely occluded  :).

Wonderful chat - but as usual, never enough time.  Could sit and chew the fat (the saturated fat 'n all) with you two gems all day.  Can actually picture us doing that some time.  Poor Andrew would be mortified - couldn't move us along since we're such nice regulars  ;D!  Anyway, thanks again for your time and gorgeous company.  And Joan, a special thanks to you for the wee chicken and the fishwife  ;).  I'm a little unnerved by the prospect of showing mine to the kids - I can see hostilities breaking out over just who gets to have "the first turn"  :D.  I'll tell them Auntie Joan gave it specially to Mummy, but that small people can look forward to finding it in a cake one day  :P.  Brian, I was thinking of you taking the fishwife on your travels with you - a little good luck charm and reminder of the Crazy Folk here at DC land!

Cheers to all - have a great weekend.

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on January 18, 2007, 11:26:15 PM
oh Wolfie...why oh why oh why oh...didn't I think...to offer you two....tell them another will be on its way in a couple of weeks..they can share the chicken....indeed a scrumptious time again...always scrumptious...

isn't this forum ...this group of folk with the mountain story as a thread...the connection....the WHY we are all here...isn't it something!

the chicken and fishwife need some explanation! I've a friend in France who has given me a collection of ceramic feves....tiny figures....people...animals...one is placed in the filling of a galette des rois....and if the feve is in your slice..then you get to wear the gold paper crown for the day...or night...or however long you choose...we had an Epiphany party where I baked a galette....scrumptious by the way....and my husband scored the feve!...we crowned him....he made a rather lovely king!

Luke....we spoke of how much fun it will be when you make it to the mountain hideaway ;)...other folk too...to make their way here....
hugs..
'n have a wondrous weekend

			
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Rockbern on January 19, 2007, 02:02:06 AM


Wolf - where is Mash's?  I'm not normally a cake person but strawberry shortcake done the way my mother used to bake - fresh from the kitchen - was a particular weakness of mine.

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 19, 2007, 04:17:56 AM
I don't know how many of you get over to the PhotoCap thread but this was a first-time post put there yesterday. It reduced me to tears several times. Simple and perfect.

He would not stay for me; and who can wonder?

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He would not stay for me to stand and gaze.


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I shook his hand and tore my heart in sunder


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And went with half my life about my ways.

A. E. Housman
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on January 19, 2007, 01:40:21 PM
Thanks for that Mini
Jack's drive away from meeting Ennis after his divorce always brings tears to my eyes. I  do not frequent the photocaps page, hoping to see the best on the daily sheet. My computer is so slow to download pages with lots of pics, very frustrating.
Rockbern, I will answer for Wolf.  Mash is a cafe in Glenbrook which is the first town you enter driving into the Blue Mountains.
And my "Fishwife' which I chose from the generous Madameshawshanks' bowl of little ornaments is really a woman with a basket of fish. It is labelled  'Poissonnerie' (Fish market or Fishseller's stall). Reminds me that I will be back in Paris on April 26.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on January 20, 2007, 12:20:25 AM
have a wondrous trip east Luke...see ya soon it would seem!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Rockbern on January 20, 2007, 02:43:02 AM
Thanks Brian.  A little out of my way.  Is it worth the trip from Sydney - cake-quality-wise?

  Reminds me that I will be back in Paris on April 26.

     Bloody hell  ;) ... Can I come too?  How does that song go again?  April in Paris . . .


     You going all romantic on us, Brian?



Title: Re: G'day! Brokeback everywhere!
Post by: BBM-Intern on January 22, 2007, 06:52:45 AM
Dear brokebackers,

Oh dear, do you get that spooky feeling that everything you see is related to Brokeback?  People at work for example; I have a colleague who looks quite like Ennis and another a little like Jake.  The former is really quite similar, except that he has a "learned" face, as another colleague (secret BBM fan!) says.

Anyway, what I wanted to say was tonight (22-Jan-2007) was a little spooky:  On "Supernatural", one of the stars was Linda Cardellini (Cassie Cartwright) and on "Jack and Bobby: Child of God", there was Kate Mara (Alma Junior).  Just as I was flipping channels.  How weird!  Any minute now I expect to see Heath or Jake!

Sweet dreams!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 22, 2007, 08:41:40 PM
Hey, Lem, are there any vacancies where you work?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: BBM-Intern on January 24, 2007, 04:20:29 AM
Hi Mini and all the other g'dayers,

Well, our organisation recently announced 44 vacancies in the IT area.  But you gotta be careful, otherwise you'd end up working in an office with full of Joe Aguirre look-alikes (!!).

Anyhoo, for you Melbournites, if you're able to attend, please keep 2pm Sunday 18-Feb-2007 free - it's the "Out and Loud" choral festival in Melbourne as part of Midsumma festival.   A whole lot of GLBTI choirs attending this festival and the Brisbane Lesbian and Gay Pride Choir proudly presents as one of its items - "A Love That Will Never Grow Old".   Woohoo!  Now I have a question for you good folk out there: what are some of the themes, feelings or topics you think I should include when writing up the spiel to introduce this song?  BTW, the song is finally coming together, the SATB arrangement and piano accompaniment that had to be specially written.

So much for now, enjoy the Australia Day long weekend.  Time to dig out that BBM DVD and savour the splendour all over again - as if seeing love being born for the very first time!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 24, 2007, 05:27:09 AM
H Lem

The line that always reduces me to tears with that song is "This one's the love of your life" and I think of poor Jack realising Ennis is just that and then never being able to achieve his dream, so I'd emphasise the theme of following your inner voice and going for what you believe in, no matter what. Ennis was totally reluctant but in return Jack didn't have the self-confidence. So there's also the theme of believing that you are worthy of happiness.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on January 25, 2007, 04:07:21 PM
just popping in to say Happy  Australia  Day to all the g'dayers. Hope everyone has a great long weekend, whatever you're doing.

I'll be listening to the Hottest 100 Countdown on tripleJ, maybe watch a bit of cricket, followed by a pie and a beer at the A-League Semi-Final game tonight - GO SYDNEY FC!!!!
It's good to be an Aussie!!!

And, sorry to have missed you, but a belated Happy Birthday to Ministering Angel! Sounds like you had a lovely day.

Ooh - the Talking Boonie doll next to the tv has started singing Advance Australia Fair!   :o ;D
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on January 25, 2007, 04:14:45 PM
HAPPY AUSTRALIA DAY, Y'ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on January 25, 2007, 04:56:45 PM
thanks, mate!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: CellarDweller115 on January 25, 2007, 05:49:13 PM
Happy Australia Day everyone!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: paintedshoes on January 25, 2007, 05:59:39 PM
A VERY HAPPY AUSTRALIA DAY, FRIENDS!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: mary on January 25, 2007, 07:14:59 PM
Wishing a Happy Australia Day,to all our Friends 'down under'  ;D
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Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 25, 2007, 07:16:23 PM
HAPPY AUSTRALIA DAY!!!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on January 25, 2007, 08:20:10 PM
loads of hugs to youse all...

with bubbles in my glass, I raise said glass and wish both you and this continent well....

'n given that Mr Stephen is back on the shores...'n Luke will be travelling east in Feb.....gatherings are appoaching ;)

maybe a Glenbrook one for those who can make it to Glenbrook on a weekday...

'n another one more Sydney-based perhaps...

isn't it truly wondrous to be able to do all this...such such such such a lovely bunch....love ya!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 25, 2007, 09:03:43 PM
G'day, mates, and lovely to be greeted by all our o/s friends. Perhaps I should become an Australian one day  ;)

Isn't this the anniversary of the day BBM went on general release here?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Rockbern on January 26, 2007, 10:42:31 PM


Many of the descendants of the original inhabitants of what we now call Australia, will never be HAPPY on the anniversary of the arrival of the First Fleet.

Would you expect them to?

I find it blatantly insensitive, if not downright racist to actually celebrate such a grim event that heralded the destruction of their culture and their way of life . . . that has caused/and still causes them such pain, shame and loss . . .  and yet we flaunt it in their faces and refuse to recognize their pain. 

Such arrogant acts as this, continue to divide this country, preventing it from realizing its full potential and becoming an example to the rest of the world of what could be achieved in what has become one of the most diversified cultures on the planet.

Our present leader, as the recognized master of wedge politics, is quick to jump on the bandwagon of Australian values and push, what used to be, a truly human value - giving everyone a fair go.  He does the opposite. 

I judge people by their actions - words are cheap!

I find little to celebrate in this country today. 



Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 27, 2007, 12:08:59 AM
Rockbern, jingoistic rubbish turns my stomach and I despise the way we are being shoved down a path that looks strangely like the intolerant ways of other countries, especially when done for cynical political reasons by our great leader.

OTOH, there is a wealth of good will in the hearts of (I hope) the majority of Australians and if a day like Australia Day can be used to foster that good will then I'm all for it.

I'm sure the originators of OzDay just picked a date that seemed okay without considering the implication of what it meant for indigenous Australians. What we really need is a day without those overtones, a day when we can all enjoy the benefits and celebrate the joys of life here, as well as having time to reflect on all the work that is yet to be done.

I'm not arguing with you btw, but my view is perhaps a little gentler. I refuse to become a citizen until there is a government in place that I don't feel revulsion about. *gets off soapbox*
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on January 27, 2007, 12:17:22 AM
Rockbern
I have some agreement with you. The day we attacked Iraq, I put my Australian flag in a bottom drawer and it remains there. The NZ flag takes pride of place in my house and I have hopes of moving there permanently. I cannot understand what happened to all those people who marched in Sydney in protest at the war. Or rather I do know, I worked with a woman who was always opposed to the war but still voted for Howard in 2004 because “Labor would put up interest rates”.  I guess I should not be too smug, my house no longer has a mortgage.  Similarly I broke off from several US internet forums when Bush was re-elected and only Brokeback has brought me back. My reading of this wonderful forum has not found any Bush devotees yet. 
I must admit, a friend reminded me lately that I said i would never visit the US while there was a Republican president and I am going there in April.  My previous visits were  during the presidencies of Carter and Clinton.  However I want to take my sister to New Orleans after spending several years looking after our Mother and she is already in her 70’s. I can at least say there is a Democrat majority in both the House and the Senate  :)

Regarding Aborigines, it is difficult. I have taught Koori classes at TAFE. I walked across the Bridge on Sorry Day but Wolf informed me just last week that many Aborigines saw this as tokenism. I use to put both the Aboriginal and Australian flag outside my house on January 26 as well as Anzac day. I do not put any up now.
I am glad to see there was an Aboriginal welcome to country in Sydney before the celebrations began on Friday. I am glad to see such welcomes becoming more and more a part of conferences and other community activities. It has been occurring in NZ(Aotearoa) for a long time.  Anglican church services in NZ begin with a welcome in Maori even in Dunedin where Maoris are fairly thin on the ground and of course the national anthem is usually sung in both English and Maori.  The lack of a common Aboriginal language creates a problem in Australia. I must acknowledge that the Maori situation in Aotearoa is not all sweetness and light either.
We need a national Day but when?  Anzac day has a different  significance and should never be for celebration.  January 1 is the other option as it is the date Australia became a nation but can we really celebrate when we are all recovering from New Year’s Eve hangovers  ;D. I do not have an answer.
Of course we need a government more committed to assisting Aborigines but that needs more than just money. The problems would take pages and pages  to discuss and while I have lots of ideas I am certainly no expert.

By the way Mini, if i may be so bold,  what is your nationality?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 27, 2007, 12:34:50 AM
Brian, you may indeed be bold. I was born in England and emigrated to NZ as a small child. My parents became NZ citizens after I left to move here. I carry a European passport and am still a British citizen. It's a drag at times. I've occasionally thought about becoming an Australian citizen but I'm lazy. However, since the present government got in I have decided that I simply cannot swear allegiance to any country with that leadership. They are morally bankrupt.

NZ is definitely not all smooth sailing. There are undercurrents of unrest but I suspect it's almost inevitable. I confess I'm not happy about a lot of things there but it beats the situation here. I grew up in a school system where the history and culture of the Maori was taught and respected, thank goodness.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on January 27, 2007, 06:17:52 PM
ah..an Australia Day....I heard a poem read on the ABC ..'twas an idea of having Australia Day when the wattle is in bloom....I think that rather lovely....the wattle of the land...to celebrate the land on which we live...we kid ourselves that we own anything...the land the earth The Earth is our home ....

I like the idea of a day in wattle time being Australia Day...

hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Rockbern on January 27, 2007, 09:20:58 PM


Mini, Madame and Brian -

Thank you for airing your thoughts on what ails this country of ours.  I half expected someone to tell me to go back where I came from for feeling as I do.  Unfortunately, I have tried to get British or Irish citizenship but my father's family has been here too long [since 1855] - the fact that my mother arrived here in 1926 doesn't make any difference.

Though a young aboriginal man in Rockhampton did just that [told me to go home], a couple of years ago, when I refused to give him some money.  It was pension day and he was drunk.  I refused because I was so disgusted, not with him, but at what our white culture had reduced him to.  My giving him a few coins to buy more alcohol would have resolved the situation and prevented the scene which inevitably followed.  He threatened to kill me, thrusting his face within centimeters of mine, after trying to smash the public phone I was waiting to use.  Since this took place in the main street, the police duly arrived and took him away.

I could see his future - the gutter, goal and an early death - and it made me very angry.  He could have been a leader in the community if given the respect and opportunities every human being deserves.  That's what he was trying to do when he threatened me - but he didn't know how.  Drink was his only escape.

Most of Howard's economic rationalists, pointing at what they would derisively call my black-arm-band view of history, would say his condition was his fault for lacking their entrepreneurial skills for wheeling and dealing - as if they were innate in every human being and had nothing to do with the culture in which one was raised.  He was just too lazy and bone-idle to work - a view that conveniently absolves them of any responsibility.

Just as those who challenge any form of 'special assistance' given to aborigines as an equity issue, in that it discriminates against non-aboriginals. 

They conveniently forget that the wealth and land that the indigenous people of this country lost, that is now in non-indigenous hands, was stolen. 

They seem to be saying - Now that we have everything that was yours, you can't get anything special, just because we have reduced you to a state of dependency, depression and ill-health.  We all must be treated equally.    

So much for our so-called fair go.

I apologize for the rant, but had to get that off my chest.



Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on January 27, 2007, 09:29:47 PM
Belated Happy Oz Day to all yooz Blokes and Sheilas :P

Rockbern, I like the cut of your jib.  I agree with you on many points.  as a person of indigineous heritage (a modicum, to be sure, but it's on both sides and my extended family is culturally halfway between worlds, so to speak), I tend to the path of least resistance and encourage my kids to celebrate natural australia on the day - via a walk in the bush or similar.  It's pretty much a non-event for us I think.  Hubby's a migrant who loves aspects of the country (there are many aspects he doesn't love - a la Mini, et al), and I'm chock full of apathy.  Not a successful recipe for flag waving really!

Mme, have pm'd you re: Mash this coming week.  Thinking of a banjo-bringing-along morning tea  ;)

Cheers all

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on February 01, 2007, 03:44:40 PM
BOO!

anyone home?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on February 02, 2007, 01:10:48 PM
My elderly ;D activities begin this week but I am free Wednesday and Thursday or from 11 am on Friday.
Am having the house painted and they should have finished yesterday but of course it had to rain in the drought on Thursday and some of Friday so I have not seen them since Wednesday afternoon. Mainly outside so I do not have to be home except they are doing a small job on lounge room ceiling which means all my furniture is out of place  :(
Over to the Ladies
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on February 03, 2007, 09:34:56 PM
http://www.mashcafe.com.au

this coming Thursday....9.30 was the time..however if it's easier to make it a tad later...wadda ya reckon Wolfie...or shall we keep it at 9.30 and we'll simply roll on ;)..let us know ma dear....

how nice it will be if the laddies can make it!


always more than pleasant...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on February 05, 2007, 04:57:52 PM
Luke, Mme and Brian,

Sounds like a plan! 

I have childcare arranged for thursday morning, so would be best for me then.  Flexible to a degree, but morning definitely preferred - don't want to share my choc cake with darling daughter  :P ;D. 

Do hope you lads can come along  :) :).  Luke, In case you don't know where Mash is, it's in Ross Street (the main street in the village), Glenbrook, on right hand side as you head down towards the national park.  It's an old federation weatherboard set well back from the road.  Hope you like organic, fair trade coffee!

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on February 05, 2007, 11:23:10 PM
Luke has texted me. He does not have acess to internet  at the moment but asked me to text or ring him with any changes. At the moment we are presenting at Mash at 9.30am. He seems to know the location.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on February 06, 2007, 01:00:27 PM
bingo !!! oh what fun 'tis...9.30 with bells on..
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on February 06, 2007, 07:26:09 PM
yay bananas with sugar on top ........ four crazy Brokies in one place  :P :)

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: dwarfishdiva on February 07, 2007, 01:59:43 AM
G'day cobbers, I'm new. Nice t'meetcha.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on February 07, 2007, 03:55:24 AM
welcome on board dwarfishdiva!....am wondering what part of this land you're in....statewise....soooooooooooooooooooooooooo yummy when a newie joins us...zillion welcomes..'tis a great bunch..
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on February 07, 2007, 05:43:56 AM
G'day cobbers, I'm new. Nice t'meetcha.

Great! Glad you came over here. There's not a lot of us but we are all absolutely the cream of the crop  ;D ;D
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on February 07, 2007, 07:23:59 PM
oh angel dear..how how how did ya know cream was consumed at mash this morn!!!! and the joy of wolfie, brian and moi meeting Luke!.......we three didn't actually vote as such...however after almost 3 hours in the lad's company, methinks we all agreed, a bloody delightful soul....

was a simply scrumptious morning....and now we have to gently ease more and more to the spot.....mash spot.....

hugs hugs and all

(cream via a Seven Deadly Sinful Iced Chocolate....and oh the French Toast!)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on February 07, 2007, 07:58:56 PM
Mme, you beat me to it!

Bless all three of you for your lovely company this morning.  Was such a joy to meet Luke, with so little to go on, as it were.  A surprise package indeed  :).  Feel lucky to know you, Luke, and can't thank you enough for taking the time out to meet us - and eat deliciously unhealthful food with us!   

Til next time.

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on February 07, 2007, 08:04:39 PM
Yes
Also enjoyed the ladies company as usual, and enjoyed meeting Luke.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on February 08, 2007, 01:34:27 PM
Hi Everyone
Today is my Brokeback anniversary. What a day!  What a year!
My first post on this forum was 3 days later on February 11
"I am also from Australia but quite a bit older 61. Guess I am much the same age as the guys in Brokeback would have been. Saw Brokeback on Thursday and like most on this site cannot stop thinking about it. Fortunately I had already read the story but I still sat having lunch in the Food Court with tears streaming down my face. While my background is so much different (city bred school teacher ) brought up as an evangelical Christian it still brings back so much. Got engaged to a lovely girl and thought I was being moral in not touching her until I realised I did not want to touch her sexually. I had my first sexual experience the day I broke the engagement at age 27. I however  had mad crushes on mates at uni and senior students. Some I am still in contact with and now know I am gay but are still happy to be friends. One particular guy 10 years younger than me called me big brother and I was best man at his wedding(how that hurt) Today he is a grandfather but still gives me a big hug when we meet. (Says he draws the line at giving me a kiss ;D ) May write more in other areas."
I have sure written more since and met so many wonderful people online and in real time.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on February 09, 2007, 12:10:22 AM
9th February. One whole year. Who would have thought?

And this morning was no different from every other morning since 10th Feb 06 - I woke up thinking about Jack and Ennis. Every morning they are my first thought, every night they are my last.

I fit in thoughts of other people, of course, grandkids, friends, kids, husband, family. etc. but those two lonesome cowboys are my default setting.

This time one year ago I was stunned. 4 1/2 hours since the film had ended and I was in shock. Lot of tears shed since then, and lots of good bellylaughs and fabulous exchanges with people I would never had known otherwise. And LOTS of introspection. Oh yes.

Bless you all.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on February 11, 2007, 05:20:45 PM
First up, welcome to Dwarfishdiva.  Good to have you on board  :).

I think today might be my own BBM anniversary ...... not entirely sure  :-\.

Sadly, the tears I shed this day have no connection.  Our dear friend A is almost certain to be lost to the sea that he loved.  Andrew's wife, Vicki, is one of my closest friends as well as our neighbour.  The journey she and Andrew have been on preparing for his attempt to cross the Tasman, solo, has been intense and extremely stressful for all concerned.  For it to end like this is too much to bear.  And now their beautiful 3 yr old boy will grow up without a dad. 

I do apologise for rambling.  Am finding writing is easier than talking about it.  There's so much anger at A (there always was - every time he set off on one of his adventures), and grief for his wife and child that I can't talk about it without tears.

For now,

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on February 11, 2007, 06:11:53 PM
Good morning, Wolf. That's just awful. I hope - and I'm sure - that your friend knows people are feeling for her and her boy.

XXXX
M
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on February 11, 2007, 10:38:17 PM
So sorry Wolfie, I did feel for his wife when I saw the picture in the paper as well as scenes on news of her farewelling him in Tasmania. It seemed to me a pointless exercise and selfish for a man with a wife and child.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on February 12, 2007, 02:25:12 AM
Dearest Wolfie...my hugs and love to you and your precious neighbours....with love in abundance to you all ...there......
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on February 12, 2007, 06:17:58 PM
Big thanks to all of you kind souls for your thoughts.

Agreed, Brian.  It was an act of selfishness and arrogance.  He had absolutely no business doing these pointless things when a wife and child depended on him.  It wasn't even as though he was raising funds for charity - it was purely for himself.  That just makes it worse than it already is - if that were possible.  And you're right, the pictures of his wife in the press/tv have been heartbreaking  :'( :'( :'(.  Is surreal to see something this personal play out in public - not recommended. 

Just realised we've lost 3 friends in their thirties in past three years.  Will to a heart attack at 38 the year before last, Kirsten to breast cancer at 37 last year, and now A, at 39.  The song "Forever Young" is playing somewhere .....

On a cheerier note, has anyone had a ceremonial 'anniversary' viewing of BBM?  thoughts?

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on February 12, 2007, 06:45:05 PM
Yes, Wolf, I had one. I hadn't watched since 17th October when I saw it with BBM_intern and Campfire, so on The Day I booted my husband off to bed early (he went willingly - not that film again!) and I settled in with hanky at the ready. By the end I was a sodden mess, and still crying - sobbing and helpless - half an hour later.

It doesn't matter that I've spent nearly a year thrashing out the finer points on various threads, that I can waffle about The Aeneid and Ennis's journey and twin souls and goodness knows what else, or that I see resolution in the prologue. When I watch the film none of that matters. My heart still breaks for those two men, and there's nothing I can do to change the ending for them.

Fictional characters, Marian, fictional characters. I wish I could believe that sometimes.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: BBM-Intern on February 13, 2007, 07:02:48 AM
Hi all you good g'dayers,

Firstly, a big hug and hello to all of you.  Wolfie, so sorry to hear about your friend; I'm sure you'll find something positive out of all of this.

Yes, it's also anniversary time for myself soon - 11 March to be exact.  I wished I'd "saved myself" by watching the first round in the theatre, instead of a bootleg copy at home.  Even though the screen was big enough, there's nothing like seeing it on the big screen.  The first few times I saw it after that, my body seemed to go numb and shut down, as if it was my own death.  But then the impact hit, and I was a mess emotionally for days after that.

Even listening to "A Love That Will Never Grow Old" in the office hit me so hard - the tears started running like crazy.  Thank goodness everyone had gone home, or I'd be labelled quite certifiable!

Am celebrating the anniversary by putting Brokeback front and centre - the first HD-DVD (High Definition DVD) to be played on our new player WILL be Brokeback.  The player is yet to come, but I think the disc is on its way from Amazon.  Brokeback in high definition, wow, I'll be able to see the bits like "spit strings" all the more clearly!

Also, to assuage my daily cravings, I've upgraded my PDA to one with 640x480 resolution.  Am remastering the whole movie to fit onto an SD card and the first chapter looks stunning.  Clap on the headphones and instant gratification anywhere I go.  I know Mini Angel was quite aghast at seeing it like that, but it's good for a quick fix.  I think only you brokies will understand how it it feels to have the boys nearby - I feel a bit like Linus and his security blanket!

And I keep harping on about it, but "A Love That Will Never Grow Old" is going to be performed this Sunday, 18-Feb-2007 at the Melbourne Town Hall, as part of the "Out and Loud" Choral Festival.  Well, a touch of country and western and I hope this turns out to be a real tear-jerker.  Am so proud of our Brisbane choir and the journey it has been, from initial arrangement from the Boston Gay Mens' Chorus, to us, then rearranging it for SATB and working with it through several evolutions, adding a piano accompaniment and embracing its message.  Wolfie, I'll be thinking of your friend when singing this - it's the connection that we have with our loved ones that never ends, even physical separation isn't enough to end it.

Fictional characters? No, I don't think so; I think in my dreams I'm having antiphonal conversations with them.  Their energy is very real indeed, because they ARE real.  For me, in the sense that the characters are the crystalisation of the hopes and fears of persons past and future, and the message they bring is one that already echoes deep within us.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on February 15, 2007, 01:42:50 PM
I do not know if others of you like me read the daily Sheet each morning- even before I have read morethan the first page of the SMH but if not you might like to know and celebrate the following.

Brokeback Mountain won the viewer’s poll for Best Film of 2006 on Australia’s ABC-TV At the Movies. BBM topped the list of 100 films while another Heath Ledger movie, Candy, came in at number twenty-seven in the poll.http://www.abc.net.au/atthemovies/viewerspoll/
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on February 16, 2007, 02:15:55 AM
Not only did it win, it won by a wide margin. David S. said something about how it had been on so early in the year and Margeret P. said something like "You don't forget that film". I think it's safe to say they were both delighted that it won.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: magicmountain on February 17, 2007, 11:24:25 PM
G'day all. I haven't caught up with fellow Aussies yet. I promised Marian I would drop by so here I am!

Jo
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on February 18, 2007, 02:16:22 AM
G'day all. I haven't caught up with fellow Aussies yet. I promised Marian I would drop by so here I am!

Jo
Welcome to our little corner of the forum Jo, I can see by your postings, you are hardly new to the forum, almost rivalling Mini who has been splashed over the whole forum in the Daily Sheet this weekend. Congratulations Mini, good to learn more about you.  Which corner of Oz do you come from Jo?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: magicmountain on February 18, 2007, 05:23:55 AM
G'day all. I haven't caught up with fellow Aussies yet. I promised Marian I would drop by so here I am!

Jo
Welcome to our little corner of the forum Jo, I can see by your postings, you are hardly new to the forum, almost rivalling Mini who has been splashed over the whole forum in the Daily Sheet this weekend. Congratulations Mini, good to learn more about you.  Which corner of Oz do you come from Jo?

Hello Brian, thanks for the welcome. Yes - it has taken me a while to get here! I live in Sydney.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on February 18, 2007, 07:19:50 PM
Greetings G'dayers,

Welcome to Jo - nice to have another Sydney bod on board!  Look forward to getting to know you  :).

Mini - very much enjoyed reading your profile.  A few surprises, and then some non-surprises  :P.  Wen't "hmmm ... makes sense" when I read you've been involved in the birthing 'industry', and that one of your obsessions was childbirth - though I'm sure we've discussed this prior to now  :-[.  I've had the same obsession, despite having only done it twice!  The first was a revelation and I decided then and there that if I could give birth for a living, I would  ;D ;D.  Also been for some years involved in fairly aggressive group fighting the proliferation of non-essential sections.  Fear is a powerful tool in the hands of the unscrupulous!

Cheers to Luke - enjoying the coast and environs no doubt!  Keep thinking of your Leichhardt ghost, incidentally  :o.

Hi to everyone else.  Not much news here.  My dear friend V has just this morning returned from NZ after waiting a decent interval in NZ in hopes of finding A's remains.  So I'll only be here in fits and spurts for a while - not sure how things will go in next few weeks.  Brian, Luke, Mme, Jo, Stephen etc, would be good to Mash soonish!  Perhaps next week?

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: magicmountain on February 18, 2007, 08:50:23 PM
Fear is a powerful tool in the hands of the unscrupulous!


That's a great line to remember! Thanks for the welcome Wolf.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on February 18, 2007, 10:30:48 PM
Not expecting anyone to notice, but have been back and amended my recent posts to remove names.  Had occurred to me that family of the deceased might Google.  My spleen venting about A's choices aren't appropriate reading for the recently bereaved  :-[.

Meantime, was very interested to read of your various anniversary thoughts and viewings  :)  Intern, yours in particular really struck me ....... wonderful post m'dear!  And Mini, am quite dazzled at your fortitude in doing so long without a viewing  :o. 

Jo, I lump Obstetricians in with Plastic Surgeons - by and large unscrupulous and profit driven.  The only two fields of medicine wherein non-medically necessary procedures can be carried out lawfully (and at high price) - don't that just open hell's floodgates.  Having said that I know a couple of Obs personally who are dear old beans  ;D.  Incidentally, are you available for blue mountains cafe-ing weekdays?  We have quite a nice little gang of coffee/cake/BBM lovers meeting more or less regularly.

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: magicmountain on February 19, 2007, 02:46:25 AM
Hi to you too Luke,

Blue Mountains is a bit geographically difficult for coffee but I may get there one day.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on February 19, 2007, 03:04:43 AM
Hi all.

Wolf, I didn't get into how forceful my views were and still are about childbirth and intervention and the like, but I feel the same as you. I loved the bit about giving birth as a living - I felt exactly the same way. One of life's truly magnificent experiences.

Jo, lovely to see you over here at last.

Lem, sorry I didn't get to the Out and Loud thing. I was prostate with heat yesterday. An RL got in the way. How dare it!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on February 19, 2007, 05:48:02 AM
hi darlings all...oh crumbs am a wee bit tired..

'tis late..a lovely visit today from someone I've met on a food forum...we (Sigi and I) met her in Paris a few months back....have been thinking of the wonder of the net...that I've met truly wondrous folk from 3 forums (fora ;)?)....met darlings in Australia, The States, Switzerland, UK, France, Germany....how about that eh!

Wolfie ...'bout next week...I'll let ya know for sure tomorrow...bit hectic at moment...will give ya days to play with...or should that be days with which to play..

anyone who loves pancakes of any description.....tomorrow beith Pancake Tuesday ;)...I doth know these things....oh the things I doth know...

anyone heard of "Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip"...stunning series ...have seen the first season and two eps from the second...Matthew Perry is a stunner in this...he can do things with his eyes, acting-wise, in the same wonderful way Cate Blanchett can....isn't it a sheer treat to be able to enjoy all this film craft...the mountain film and so so so many others..
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on February 19, 2007, 07:52:17 PM
Jo, Bugga!  Perhaps we should start doing alternate coffee chats - city and BMs  ;D. 

Luke, next month it is - you know we'll hold you to that!  and yes, fasting prior to Mashing is always a good idea  :P.

Mme, talk soon.

Mini, I'm dreadfully timid about expressing my opinion of the birthing industry.  I'm ashamed to say that I've gone so far as to deny it on a number of occassions - in particular when friends and/or family have expressed allegiance to the dark side, as it were.  A woman who's hanging by a thread to her 'reasons' for acceptance of dubious interventions, doesn't want to hear Wolf pontificating.  Birthing has become a veritable minefield - to such an extent that those of us with more than a passing interest are sometimes compelled to remain closetted.  Bit like being a communist in the fifties!    Anyway, the lads have probably heard enough, so I won't even start on the breast vs formula thing  ;).

Just come back from a lovely wander around Katoomba with a girlfriend - poking around hippy shops and book exchanges etc.  Nice memories of seeing BBM at The Edge on the gigantor screen.  Despite living in reasonably close proximity, I probably only get up there a few times a year - usually only in winter when snow in the offing - so was rather nice to amble about sans artic wear!

Cheers to all

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on February 19, 2007, 09:21:11 PM
gee Wolfie don't ya write the charmingest of posts....

Wolfmother ;)

indeed chat soon
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on February 19, 2007, 11:29:36 PM
Hi everyone
 I am so proud of myself for taking the photos below. It meant the alarm going off at 3am, dragging myself out of bed at 3.15am, cup of coffee, dressed and out the door by 3.35am. 90km drive to Cremorne by 5am, 10 minute walk to the harbour front and waiting until slightly after 6 for the Queen Mary 2 to hove into sight. Ginormous!!!!!!  Took lots of snaps then left at 7am and back home by 9am to make myself more presentable and set of for my usual Music group. Showed them some printouts to explain if I nodded off.
Then lunch with the group and onto my other lecture until 3.30pm. Think I am past being tired now.
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g218/brianr44/QM2b-1.jpg)
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g218/brianr44/QM2a-1.jpg)

For any non Aussies reading, you can see the city of Sydney and the Opera House in the background
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: magicmountain on February 21, 2007, 04:48:16 PM
Hi Brian,

I too dragged myself out of bed early to see the QM2 arrive. I also watched her leave - a mountain of twinkling lights on the harbour.

Today marks the start of my second year on ths forum. Unbelievable!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on February 21, 2007, 09:42:49 PM
congrats to the ship folk...usually would have made the trip ....however for whatever reason...not to be...

Brian scrumptious pics...and mountain one...congrats on the anniversary...

The Wolf One has suggested Mash next Thursday.....morn better than arvo....

Fine and dandy by me...AND Mr Stephen will be taking the train up....wonderful news eh! am so excited that Pens and he will meet...any chance anyone else....wonder if the dancer could make it....ah...all this AND those iced chocolates at Mash...does life get any better?
hugs as ever to all
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on February 26, 2007, 05:05:10 AM
oh crumbs..it's Oscar night! 10.57...perhaps a little too much rose!....however...stopped by to say hi...and so glad mr stephen will join us on thurs at mash....all all all all all welcome... :) pens...ain't it grand!!!

the hugs you know...

yep...rose and chips....nothing like oscar night...my night night night of nights...can remember in a nanosecond Jane Fonda's acceptance speech....saying only to go into the game if you're prepared to be in it morning noon and night....since forever I've felt that with acting...so, with fingers crossed etc....I imagine....

oh my ...rose at work here....more hugs

'n I dooooooooooooooooo know the horrible tale of bbm missing out...however...we know why...so that's ok...that we know why...enough to know that the reason why is that we know........fear of reality....

more hugs dear ones I'm so glad to know...either with really truly hugs...or these cyberspace ones... :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on February 26, 2007, 01:41:34 PM
and so glad mr stephen will join us on thurs at mash....all all all all all welcome...
What time on Thursday?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on February 26, 2007, 07:42:56 PM
Mr Stephen's train gets to Glenbrook at 9.30ish...so any time from there Brian...'twill be great to see ye all...and the Wolf one of course ;)

it's never ever toooooo early for dairy products...iced chocolate methinks..
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on February 27, 2007, 01:36:38 PM
You can tell Stephen that my train from the opposite direction is due into Glenbrook at the same time, so he can look out for me or wait a few minutes if necessary and I will conduct him to Mash.
Title: Ordering"Beyond Brokeback: The Impact of a Film"in Australia
Post by: brian on March 06, 2007, 04:29:18 PM
I inquired of the publishers about delivery to Australia as the site did not allow for the extra postage.
I received the following
Brian,

We will be developing a system that will allow international ordering soon.
For now, if you order a book through our website, you will receive a follow
up request for $5 US additional shipping. It's inconvenient we know, but
right now it's the only way we are able to ship books internationally.

Thanks,
David Collins
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on March 07, 2007, 07:08:08 AM
Given my total lack of anything so sophisticated as a credit card, I'm wondering how to get a copy of this darned book. Is anyone happy to order an extra one and I'll reimburse them?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on March 07, 2007, 07:54:30 PM
Gawd ...... long absence  :-[

Hadn't realised it's been a week since meeting Mr Mellor and no post since - shame on wolf!.  To my delight, there were four of us last thurs.  Dear Joansworth, oneself, Brian and the most fabulous Stephen M  :).  Still shaking my head in wonder at just how many tremendously worthwhile souls frequent these boards - and what great company you guys always turn out to be!  Had some good hearty laughs with you, Mr Mellor, and learned that we favour a similar brand of cynicism  :P ;D :P.

Dairy Queen, as always, three lovely hours.  Brian, ditto! 

Didn't catch the PoxyOscars - accidentally on purpose.  On the night in question I was at the home of a friend, sharing a bottle of post funeral (Andy's farewell at Macquarie Lighthouse), exceptionally good cab merlot with a 20-something male who not incidentally has a connection to some of you.  The fact that I'm a non-drinker is the least of it.  Suffice to say it was possibly one of the most surreal days of my life.  Monday, 26th Feb.

Cheers to all. 

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: louisev on March 08, 2007, 03:19:34 PM
I can do it, MA, just let me know via pm who to send it to and we can settle up in due course.

And I was invited here by Brianr, having just arrived in Melbourne from Germany.

I am already friends with magicmountain Jo and you may see in the Daily Sheet the announcement of my new column, "An American Brokie" which will feature my experiences travelling internationally.  Melbourne is my latest port of call, and I hope that I can meet as many of you as possible on my "tour."

If there is anyone here who is in Melbourne or suburbs, right now I am pretty much confined to the city and working heavy hours for my new employer but my Sundays are free...!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on March 08, 2007, 04:34:51 PM
Hey Louise! You're living in Melbourne now? Great!

Should be considerably milder than Germany!

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on March 08, 2007, 10:46:01 PM
Welcome to Australia Louise and our little, very quiet lately, group.
Glad you can help Mini with Beyond Brokeback. I have decided to delay ordering as it is not being delivered until April when I will be away for a month.  Would hate to have it disappear from my front door.

It was great to see the reference in the Daily Sheet to the front page of the Sydney Morning Herald with its photo of Adam Sutton with Rupert Everett on Mardi Gras day.  I wanted to post it but did not know where.
 I was especially moved by the line.
"He has received hundreds of letters from rural gay Australians, some of them crushingly sad: a teenager whose father beat him till his fist broke after he came out; an old man who was dying and had only ever confessed his secret once, to his sister."
I feel many gay men in Sydney, especially young ones, do not realise that homophobia is still very real in some areas of the country. Perhaps that is why Brokeback did not affect them as much.
There was a letter in the SMH
Not between rainbow flags

Sydney surf lifesavers, you are Aussie icons and young people look up to you. However, by participating in the homosexual Mardi Gras, your role model has been shattered, devalued and demeaned. How sad.
 
Judith Bond Glen Alpine

Glad to see two very good rebuttals from women the next day
Birds do it, bees do it, even Aussie icons do it

Pardon my anger, but what the hell does a lifesaver's sexual orientation have to do with the performance of a great job? Or does Judith Bond plan to ask a bloke if he's gay before he pulls her from a rip (Letters, March 7)?

Sandy Parkinson Hilton (WA)

As well as homosexual lifesavers, there are homosexual doctors, lawyers, brickies labourers, oh, all kinds. Open your heart and your narrow mind, Judith Bond, and be careful who takes your blood pressure next time you visit your local GP.

Hazel Mellor Mittagong
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: michaelflanagansf on March 09, 2007, 11:56:16 PM
Hi everybody!

I just wanted to point out the new gay history thread that I've put up.  I want this to be a forum wide thing - so if you want to participate feel free!  And if you need to moderate the questions please do that too!

Here's the link to the questions:

http://www.davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=20158.msg779965#msg779965

 :-*

mf
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on March 14, 2007, 08:59:20 PM
Bugga, just finished typing a post re: Mashing and lost the blasted thing!

Luke, spent three lovely hrs at Mash this morning with Joan - but if you twist our arms we'll do it again soon  :P.  Brian's birthday coming up (this sunday?), so it could be in his honour!

Joan, about to delete a phone # from my mobile.  All cake/coffee/icewater/filmtalk from this day forward shall be unadulterated by humming  ;). 

Cheers all

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on March 15, 2007, 01:43:32 AM
Wolfie...ah..the great open doors..as in a park!

the birthday boy's day is Sat...so with one voice...let's hear it ..THE song..."and so say all of us"...the happiest of days Brian...the absolute happiest...

hugs to all...

will be back soon....you know those slabs of life stuff.. ;)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on March 15, 2007, 04:14:14 AM
Joan, just reading some reviews of Deadwood.  Thought I'd post a couple  ;)

"Don't get me wrong, there have been great westerns to come before Deadwood, but none of them really got it right. There is just a reality that some people aren't willing to deal that after 50 years of our history being whitewashed through film and TV, we're finally starting to see the truth. David Milch has done his research and discovered the wonderfully bizarre contradiction of languages used in the old west. Watching the cast of Deadwood converse with a combination of old world English laced with profanity straight from the gutter is incredible and feels right for the first time. Where do people think our language came from?

This is indeed a special show that is continuing to pave the way for the facts of our history to finally be told with truth...Instead of the whitewashing we've seen our whole lives to make us feel better about ourselves."

and

"This is a stunning achievement. Performance, writing, direction, casting, design, everything about it is of the highest quality. It seems so obvious and in your face at first with little in the way of compelling traditional story (ie each episode has a 'plot') but every layer has another layer beneath and they all build into an amazing portrait of this moment in time. (real or fictional it makes no difference to me) For all the apparent lawlessness and depravity on display it is about love and responsibility being forged against the most brutal of times. Ian McShane is a stunning revelation and Timothy Olyphant is superb as the calm fury at the centre of the storm. Cannot praise it highly enough. Better than Sopranos - and that's saying something."

to those of you who haven't seen any of this SUBLIME series (HBO, available here on dvd), you're missing something special!

ciao.

PS, Joan, deleting done and life returns to normal  :).

W



Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on March 15, 2007, 02:06:44 PM
Thanks Ladies for Birthday greetings. Always embarrassing. Thanks to the Irish my birthday is so rememberable but I can never remember those of other people.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on March 18, 2007, 11:00:27 PM
Thanks Luke
I should also stop counting now. Have no Irish ancestors, just born on their saint's day and given an Irish name. My ancestry is mainly English with some Scottish thrown in.
Give my regards to Jerome, I thought he was going to miss Sydney and also to Louis.  Sorry I will miss meeting him.  I fly out to USA on April 11 and am just now planning itinerary for Washington on April 19 to 21. 
Feel very touristy here at the moment.  Walked over the Bridge yesterday then had lunch on top of Centrepoint Tower.  Have just got home from climbing the Giant Staircase to Echo Point with my weekly hiking group . For those who do not know the area, that was 1,000 steps down Federal Pass from Leura and then 1,000 steps back up the Staircase although I  did not count them.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on March 28, 2007, 03:46:37 PM
hello you lot!

we must all be either in deep meditation or seriously drunk...
the silence :-)
hugs whatever the case may be..
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on April 03, 2007, 08:52:33 AM
Either would be nice, Joan, but sadly, I'm just having an annoying attack of RL. Da noive!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on April 06, 2007, 04:39:23 PM
When you see Elskov, please tell him hi from me!

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on April 06, 2007, 05:11:08 PM
Sorry Luke, I leave for USA on Wednesday and that week will be in Charleston, Washington and Philadelphia (where I will meet DaveinPhilly). Give my regards to Elskov.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on April 07, 2007, 09:47:05 AM
Oh, and Luke, give him a nice big hug while you're at it!  :D

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: louisev on April 09, 2007, 09:36:59 AM
what is a "Mashing it"

and I am still here, hoping to get together wth folks in Melbourne and Sydney in the near term...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on April 09, 2007, 03:38:47 PM
"Mash' is th delightful coffee shop in Glenbrook (first township in the Blue Mountains) where us Brokebackers who live nearby and others passing through like to occasionally meet and gorge ourselves on chocolate delights etc. which would horrify my doctor.  Reminds me, in about 24 hours I will be passing through Glenbrook in the train on the way to the airport for the flight to LA.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: shannon on April 15, 2007, 05:27:11 PM
I wish I understood what ya'll are talking about.  If one is not in the "loop" as it were ... one is totally excluded.  What happened to discussions of BBM?  These discussions have totally gotten off track and have become a forum for ... I don't know what.  Ya'll are living in some unrealistic universe ... a universe that doesn't exist.  You have forgotten what brought this forum to be in the first place.  It is very disturbing and I am dismayed that Dave Cullen has allowed this "personal" chatter to go on ... chatter that means nothing ... unless as I said, you are in the loop ... and even then, I'm not sure it means anything other than idle chatter about nothing. ??? :-\
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on April 15, 2007, 09:06:49 PM
Luke Brokeback Darling,

I'll be available for a cup a coffee and a piece a cherry cake up here on the mountain, on thursday if I can arrange care for Ennis and Jack.  We can sit by the fire and discuss movies about young men in Wyoming in 1963.  And sheep, if you like.

I know yer up there giving the folks a hand thru the winter and all, but lets try!  Would love to meet Elskov. Shall we say, 10am, at this point?

Hopefully, Lureen Shawshank can join us!.

Must go ....... have a million Brokeback related things to do and think about.

 :P :P :P

W

PS  apologies for the loopsim, Louisev.  Sometimes it gets so quiet here the only thing that keeps us going is arranging our Mash sessions  ;D.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on April 16, 2007, 05:40:10 AM
I wish I understood what ya'll are talking about.  If one is not in the "loop" as it were ... one is totally excluded.  What happened to discussions of BBM?  These discussions have totally gotten off track and have become a forum for ... I don't know what.  Ya'll are living in some unrealistic universe ... a universe that doesn't exist.  You have forgotten what brought this forum to be in the first place.  It is very disturbing and I am dismayed that Dave Cullen has allowed this "personal" chatter to go on ... chatter that means nothing ... unless as I said, you are in the loop ... and even then, I'm not sure it means anything other than idle chatter about nothing. ??? :-\

Hi Shannon. I doubt that any of us have forgotten what brought us to the forum and I know that I spend most of my time on other threads, seriously discussing the film and story. However, these "social" threads aren't specifically set up to fulfil that purpose. They are, in my opinion, here so that people can get together in RL and continue on in whatever way seems appropriate.

My advice is just to dive in and chat awhile. If you want to talk about BBM I'm always up for it, and I'm sure others are too. However, I tend to find it easier to talk about, say, the symbolism in story and film over on the Symbolism thread (although I'm fond of dropping in the odd illustrated lecture on Planet Heath).

Whereabouts on Australia are you? Assuming you are.

Best wishes

Marian
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: michaelflanagansf on April 16, 2007, 04:51:57 PM
Hmmm...I should probably mention over here that one of the films we're considering for the film club next time is the version of Ned Kelly with Heath in it.  Please vote on your favorite here:

http://www.davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=14735.from1176685485;topicseen#new
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on April 16, 2007, 10:20:12 PM
Back again, Luke.  Sadly, I've been unable to arrange care for Ennis and Jack  :(.  Wouldn't want to impose two rambunctious kids on you and his nibs - doesn't allow much witty banter!

Lets do try again soon though - in fact next week would be fine for me, though I don't think you're about then are you?  Haven't heard from Mme, so not sure what her availability is.

Mini, you're a generous and kind soul  :).  This is, as you say, a place to do our aussie "not quite brokeback" stuff.  I remember when this area was first discussed and that was one of the key elements most people considered important.  That we had a place to talk about our dogs or our begonias or just meet people geographically accessible.  Let's hope it stays that way - I wouldn't now be firm friends with Brian and Joan and (hopefully), Luke and Stephen, were it not for this thread and it's off topic meanderings.

Thinking of you, Brian, in the US and A, as Borat would say!

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on April 17, 2007, 01:41:31 AM
.... I'm fond of dropping in the odd illustrated lecture on Planet Heath).

the odd illustrated lecture...? LOL

that's a nice way of describing what goes on over at the Planet, Marian  ;D Makes it sound quite a sensible and rational place  ;)

Hello to the rest of the Aussies here! Glad to see G'day still has life in it. :)

Karen
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: louisev on April 17, 2007, 10:09:17 AM
hi all,

i dont know how much longer I will be in Melbourne, but I do hope to see you again, Mini, as time permits.  I am hoping to get my foot squared away (serious pain problem and going to go to the doctor soon, ) but dammit I havent even been paid yet!  My pay has been underway from Britain since before Easter, yes! unbelievable.

And while I am only a northern hemispherean I have many new experiences of Aussieland to share with you all as well as Brokeback related experences as well in Europe and America.  So bear with me please... !
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ellen (tellyouwhat) on April 18, 2007, 09:29:36 PM
FYI, Australian radio interview for Dave Cullen:

Thursday 4/19 (for Dave), at 4:06 P.M. Mountain Time (Denver) Dave will be live on an Australian network, abc.

Michel Panayotov is the International Editor for Australian Broadcasting Corporation, Radio National Breakfast
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on April 18, 2007, 09:38:01 PM
Argh! Mental confusion. Does that make it tomorrow (Friday) morning? Must do. 8.06 am, yes?

Louise, life is chaotic at present but I'll make the effort to get down again. We barely scratched the surface!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on April 25, 2007, 07:20:47 PM
I know that this is REALLY belated, but

HAPPY ANZAC DAY
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Y'all!





Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: louisev on April 25, 2007, 11:49:53 PM
I will be in Melbourne until 25 May.  I am going to be flying to Sydney for the long weekend on the Friday, back briefly to Melbourne the following week and thence to London on 31 May enroute to Frankfurt, Heidelberg, Zwickau and Leipzig as it stands right now - where my next job is - I have no idea.  I would like to meet anyone who is a fan of Heath, Brokeback, or Hugh Jackman on the forums, and hope to meet up with Mini once more in Melbourne and Magicmountain in Sydney.

on an off-topic note:

For anyone who is interested in the topic, I will be giving a public presentation in Ormond on "Edgar Cayce's Vision of Atlantis"  this Saturday, April 28.  It may be only one of two public presentations I will be making in Australia before returning to Europe.  PM me if interested and I can give details

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: louisev on April 25, 2007, 11:52:39 PM
I know that this is REALLY belated, but

HAPPY ANZAC DAY
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Y'all!


I have photos of Melbourne's Anzac Day parade preparations, including several Men in Skirts on my FLICKR site:

Here are a few highlights.

Men in skirts

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/168/472959635_124f8cb8c7_m.jpg)

Federation Square - central business district viewed from the south on the banks of the Yarra river

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/198/472944352_bf8f4be78c_m.jpg)

Early-bird citizenry enjoy a cuppa while waiting for the veterans to march by - in skirts.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/231/472959343_354b58a67e_m.jpg)


More men in skirts and local citizenry can be found here:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/33933952@N00/sets/72157600024878259/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/33933952@N00/sets/72157600024878259/)

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on April 29, 2007, 07:20:53 AM
Dear All,

You might have seen this..


a nice reading about Jake :)

http://www.theage.com.au/news/film/jakes-progress/2007/04/26/1177459870998.html?page=3


Cheers
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on April 29, 2007, 08:37:51 PM
Hi campfire. What a good article. I had missed it. Where have you been? Still singing along to Teddy every morning? I hope so. Did you get the links I sent re. Heath?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on April 29, 2007, 10:23:43 PM
Perhaps Jake can now take time to choose between chocolate and strawberry...thanks for the article..illuminating methinks!

oops..hi all...been away from the screen for a while...lots a happenin'....

hugs as ever...even when I'm not at the screen ;)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on May 02, 2007, 03:04:13 AM
Hi Ministering Angel,

I have been extremely busy at work & home.. but I am alive :)

Yep.. definitely . still singing to Teddy.. My beloved BBM cd is always ready in the CD player for me.. :)

Thanks, I have checked the links about Heath.. He is a true gentle soul..

Looking forward to watching Zodiac.. Any ideas about how well it has been received in US..? I could not read the reviews much..


How is everybody , Wolf, Madame, Steven, Brian, Lem  ?


Hugs to All..

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on May 02, 2007, 09:00:38 AM
Hi Isil.

I've reached the stage where I can't even play the CD. Just too painful. You'd think these things would get easier but the only way I can do that is to stay away from CD and DVD. I still think about it each and every day, in every spare second I have, but I can't take the direct input. I can still burst into tears just thinking about it.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on May 03, 2007, 04:20:08 AM
Did anybody else get that sudden clutching of the heart at the sound of those two guitar notes suddenly floating out of the TV tonight? ABC-TV's Catalyst using the opening music over a drought item. So evocative, but it always sounds wrong over anything but the film.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fann on May 05, 2007, 05:50:16 PM
yeah me and my husband were channel surfing and came across it.............and because I've become  obsessed with the movie since buying the DVD last week (first time I watched it) Roberts reaction was  ::)......have a Bex and a lie down- get over it.

Sorry sweetie .............I said to him, if you can't fix it you've got to stand it  :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on May 05, 2007, 08:31:40 PM
Yee Hah! Someone after my own heart! Welcome, fann. A week? You've got many more years of obsession ahead of you, if the people on this forum are anything to go by.

How did you not get to see it sooner? Tell us all.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fann on May 06, 2007, 04:05:36 AM
I don't get to the flicks much these days due to a little something called kids and feel really out of the loop, always picking up on things after the dust has settled.

I read the short story about six times first and glad I did. The script was pretty close although there were certain things I wish they'd included such as the part when Jack and Ennis meet up after 4 years....."and Ennis, not big on endearments, said what he said to his horses and daughter, little darlin." I'm sure someone's done an Annie Proulx/Diana Ossama/Larry McMurtry study on this forum re script v short story so I won't bore you. Anyhoo, after reading the story I checked out the original website when BBM had just been completed and was touched by the comments made from people who had only seen the shorts and others that saw it at the Venice film festival etc. There seemed to be a lot of cowboys out there who had their own story to tell  :)

Then I couldn't wait anymore for someone to return it to the library I work in (I knew the guy who was next in line on the reservation list - one of our librarians- would keep it for weeks while he and his boyfriend watched it  :D) so I hassled Robert to go and buy a copy of the DVD last Thursday and was just.......blown away.......can't believe what I'd been missing. There aren't many movies that affect me like this one.

I was really curious to see the gay press reaction when the movie came out, tried the Observer but had trouble getting into the archives.........that's when I discovered this forum.

Do you know if anyone has organised any sort of BBM convention get-together here in Sydney like the Brits are doing in 2008?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on May 09, 2007, 09:46:03 AM
No idea about get-togethers but I can tell you that Ennis whispers "Darlin" as he hugs Jack. You have to listen carefully but it's there.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fann on May 09, 2007, 10:27:32 PM

 thanks ministering angel I think I'll need to watch it again tonight to catch that bit :)

 And thanks Luke for the message about the get-together. I'd love to get up to Glenbrook for the "gathering of like-minded brokebackers" but our weekends are pretty full with kids activities etc. Maybe one time we could meet down here for a one-off? Anyway I'll keep a look-out for the mention of the next meeting and see if I cansweet talk hubby into looking after the kids.

Your life sounds interesting and can understand the movie striking a chord with you. It must have been pretty hard being in that position. I think if I'd sussed my hubby feeling that way about guys I couldn't have stayed quiet like Alma did. I think (but then not all married women would be so open minded) I would have said go and check it out and if that's what you want then it would be best if we both......OR you can have your Jack but keep me in the manner I'm accustomed  :) I suppose Alma turned a blind eye and hoped he'd get over it 'cause being a single mum in those days would have been pretty rough.

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on May 10, 2007, 02:23:09 AM
hi all...been a while...oh these days...'nuff said..

yes angel dear..Catalyst...those cords...they somehow or other jolt me...am not sure what adjective I'd use in front of jolt...a feeling of nanosecond back to THERE...that amazing THERE we've all been to in some way or other...the way that brought us all here...

welcome fann....welcome welcome welcome...am trying to get back to that first viewing day...can remember walking back to my car...a poem in my head...however who knows HOW I got home.. ;)

how about this!:http://gay.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-4338.html

said  cardinal will be 77 this year..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C4%81nis_Puj%C4%81ts

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fann on May 11, 2007, 12:09:35 AM
Hi Madameshawshank

 I'll check out the site re pink news in between putting books away on shelves here. Thanks for the warm welcomes. I'm used to football forums sans The World Game where things can get vicious esp when they find out you're a WASF  :)

I didn't get to watch BBM again last night - crashed out after reading kids stories but will DEFINITELY be watching it tonight. I think I'm going into BBM burnout..........

Hi Luke, got your message this morn when I got to work. Talk about life imitating art when you told me your Jake WAS a Jake. I think the sort of experience you had happens more often than any of us realise and those young men just end up doing what you did - marry, have kids, get on with life. BUT in the back of their minds occasionally they think about those experiences and how much they affected them.

You said you were interested to know how or why this movie "moves" women so much.

For me I think it was the first time I'd seen a guy/guy thing presented so romantically/passionately and these guys weren't in it just for the "couple of high altitude f..." as so appropriately put by Jack. He obviously sooo missed Ennis which was pretty obvious when he tried to pick up that rodeo guy in the pub. And when he raced over to E's after the divorce came through. The guy/guy thing has usually been portrayed as something sleazy, a quick screw or grope and it's all over. The kissing scenes were a turn on esp the one when they meet up after four years. For 2 straight actors they carried it just brilliantly and that's the other thing - I think Ang Lee got it right with getting Heath and Jake to play the roles.

It wasn't only the relationship between Ennis and Jack that was handed to us so beautifully but also the setting in the mountains so peaceful and away from the rest of the world. My husband liked it for this aspect mainly (he's a keen mountain climber albeit armchair one at the moment) and wants to go to Alberta, Canada now:) 

I've got a few gay male friends and their introduction to me of the guy/guy scene was Oxford Street nightclubs, beats and gay porn. But one did have an Ennis when he was 17/18 and was so affected by the affair that he hasn't been able to have anything that resembles a relationship  since. The guy he had the affair with was straight and ended up going down the girlfriend, marriage kids route. Similar to you I suppose. Except my friend decided his scene was strictly men-only and was forever trying to find his Ennis or hoping his Ennis would come back to him. I mean his life is rich and full of other pursuits but I feel sorry that after nearly 20 years he can't move on :-[
Title: G'day! Still here in Brisvegas and loving BBM
Post by: BBM-Intern on May 11, 2007, 09:31:50 AM
Hi there everyone,

Firstly a special G'day to MiniAngel and Campfire - oh, the happy memories of seeing BBM on the big screen with the two of you.  I wonder when the opportunity to see our beloved film on the big screen will come by again?

Anyway, just to let you know that I've just seen the film for the umpteenth time, this time on Foxtel's movie channel.  Tonight was the launch of their new service called "Redspace", an interactive interface that brings up extra info on the movie.  This included some extra text on aspects such as the plot, actors, director, bloopers and trivia.  And the honour of launching this service was given to BBM - how about that!

Also tonight, was a competition to win a "Family Horseriding Adventure" in NSW.  Now, this will interest a few of us no doubt, unlikely a cowboy or cowgirl we'd probably look in the saddle, we can but try!  One had to answer a few questions to enter the competition.

(If any of you don't get the answers right, hand back your BBM membership card rightaway!)
* What does ennis call his daughter Alma Jr for short?
* What colour hat does Jack usually wear?
* What Australian actor plays the part of Ennis?
* What does Lureen's father do for a living?
* What animal spooks Ennis' horse?
* What does Ennis say he doesn't eat?
* How many children does Ennis have?
* What colour is Ennis' pick up truck?
* What year did Jack and Ennis first meet?
* Who plays the part of Lureen?
* What is missing from the food delivery besides milk?
* What do Ennis and Jack shoot for food?

I'm still waiting somewhat impatiently for my HD-DVD player to arrive; it was ordered months ago, but the shipment has been delayed time and again.  In the meantime, I have a HD-DVD copy of BBM here that I can't watch... the byline that they use for these discs is "The look and sound of perfect" - how apt for the film.  I've told my husband that the very first disc to go into the new player must be BBM, no ifs or buts about it.

If any of you folk are heading up to Brisbane, give me a hoy and let's meet up.  Cup of coffee and piece of cherry cake will be provided!

Oh, and a special welcome to fann, lovely to see new folks join us here!

Love,
Lem :-)

PS: Anyone going to Brisbane Pride Fair Day this year in June?  I'm going dressed as a cowboy as usual, someone come along as Lureen please??  I'd love to see a whole "BBM family" there!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on May 11, 2007, 11:03:01 AM
Hi Lem! Lovely to hear from you again. I'm going to the BBQ in Denver in a couple of weeks. Divorce on the cards.

"The look and sound of perfect" - does that mean you can fill us in on all those muttered and whispered bits of dialogue? Goody.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 14, 2007, 06:55:16 PM
Howdy all!

Big Warm Welcome to Fann  :).  Great to see a new name here and loved yr posts - very interesting to read your BBM 'history'!  Sounds like you have a similar life to my own - weekends absorbed entirely by "kid stuff"  ;D.  I also spent a good bit of my wild and crazy youth around Oxford St.  The Exchange, The Shift, etc.  Not very BBM!   My hubby is an 'eye roller' too, when it comes to our movie.  He liked it very much, but has only seen it once and thinks I'm bonkers for investing so much time and energy etc.  No chance of me getting to BBQ's in Denver (oh lucky lucky woman, Mini).

Luke, I'm hoping to Mash next thursday morning so will await yours, Mme's and Brian's availability.  mmmm ...... cake  :P.

Hi there, Lem!  Haven't read thru yr questions yet - just about to  ;).

W

edited to add that I spent last week in QLD (no time to scratch, let alone meet Lem, sadly), at my father's place on Sunshine Coast.  he and I had long planned to watch BBM together, and he's 'saved himself' for 12 months, avoiding all temptation to watch without me.  what happened?  nothing.  flatly refused to watch it.  decided that after all, he really didn't want to believe that two men could feel as strongly about each other as a man and woman can.  he's recently lost his wife (his second marriage) to cancer, so is possibly not in the right sort of shape to watch a film about love and death.  even still, I was a bit  :-\.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 14, 2007, 07:56:08 PM
Hi Wolf  & Everyone else
Am home but feeling very jetlagged despite the overnight in Bangkok. Of course I fell in love with Paris yet again and now am happy that my sister does also. Her only problem is that they do not speak English  ;D
I also enjoyed meeting DaveinPhilly at his home in Philadelphia - there is a photo on the reunions page  but a few pages back now.  Was not able to read the forum while overseas, having  discovered that cybercafes are disappearing, never found one in Paris and did not want to spend too much time at the ones I did find in small cities like Chartres, Rouen  and Amiens.  Apparently WIFI is the way to go now so looks like a new laptop will be needed before I travel again.
My main grumble now is why does Australia have to be at the other end of the world or couldn't they give you a pill to put  you to sleep and load you into the plane to wake up at the other end. Oh well.  I should be awake and available on Thursday morning, have a dentist appointment in the afternoon  >:( - a result of the sweet given with the bill at a lovely little restaurant beside the Somme in Amiens
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on May 15, 2007, 03:44:59 AM
Hi Mini , Lem , Wolf , Brian and Madame

So Mini you are going to Denver for the BBQ, enjoy it for us too.

Lem  I will answer the questions when  I find the time. You have a great time at the Fair. Hope Laureen can join you :) .

I am looking forward to watching Zodiac, although I am not into too much thriller type of movie at the moment, but gotta see Jake.

But I have really liked the idea Jake is playing Batman and Heath is the Joker. They would make a great couple again, hope we will be able to watch them again in a movie together..

Big Hugs to Everyone and welcome to Fann..

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on May 15, 2007, 07:11:10 AM
Hello Campfire. You know, I doubt we'll ever see those two in a film together. It just won't happen, and if it did, it would never be the same. They can only be Jack and Ennis or Jake and Heath.

I guess it would be nice to have Ang and Annie and all say one day, "Surprise! That wasn't the real ending!" but somehow........

Brian, couldn't agree more about here being too far away from there. Even Denver's a long long way.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on May 16, 2007, 02:21:18 AM
g'day, all

anyone else racing out to opening day sessions of Zodiac tomorrow? ;D ;D

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fann on May 16, 2007, 03:21:30 AM
I'll love to but will probably wait till it comes out on DVD.

Hi Wolf ...........ahhhh The Exchange.... brings back memories: saddle bar, drinking Fosters through a straw, Madonna, Depeche Mode, Annie Lennox/Robert Gorl collaborations, Marilyn getting slapped by vicious hairdressers, doing a tranny and trying to gain entrance to the Shift, ...not very successfully mind ;D

Yes very BBM  ;D Do you remember the show at Patches or a club called 45's?


Hi campfire and Lem....would love to be your cowgirl but I think I'm more southern trailer-trash


Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 16, 2007, 04:08:43 PM
Oh the memories brought back by the names "Shift", "Patches" and "Exchange". Spent many nights in those establishments, "dancing the night away".  Moving to the Mountains in 1982 sounded the death knell to those activities as the long drive home coincided with an ageing of the old bones. Now it is a cup of hot chocolate and bed at 9pm.
Hope we can all mash soon. Before June 13 please when I begin a small stint of casual work to help pay for my recent perambulations.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on May 16, 2007, 07:30:18 PM
Weren't there supposed to be some film awards handed out around now where, amazingly enough, BBM was in the running, even though it's eons since it was around? I've forgotten the name of them and my lightning-fast google mind has let me down this morning.

I see David & Margaret really loved Zodiac and we know what excellent taste they have in films. I got a thrill just hearing Jake's voice again. Ahhhh! I'll probably miss it in the cinema which is a drag as I was looking forward to it.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on May 17, 2007, 12:39:16 AM
there were - the Filmink awards.

I don't think that there was a shortlist for best and worst films, it was just a vote from all films released in 2006. Here's the full list of winners from their website, although there's only one there that need concern us  ;D:

Best Film: Little Miss Sunshine

Worst Film: Basic Instinct 2

Cutting Edge Best Australian Film: Kenny

Best Sort: Penelope Cruz (Volver)

Best Documentary: An Inconvenient Truth

Aussie Bum Best Australian Newcomer: Shane Jacobson (Kenny)

Best Performance by an Aussie in an Overseas Film: Heath Ledger (Brokeback Mountain) (yay our Heath!)
Best Movie Remake: The Departed

Best Blow-In: Emily Barclay (Suburban Mayhem)

Best Politically Charged Movie: An Inconvenient Truth

Best Girrrrl Power Movie: Hard Candy

Best Movie Mind F***: Hostel

VH1 Best Movie Moustache: Sacha Baron Cohen (Borat)

Peter Finch Lifetime Achievement Award: Margaret Fink

My brain has let me down today as well. I was supposed to be seeing Zodiac right now, except I must have looked at the wrong cinema when I checked the session times on the net.  :-[ >:(
They did give it a very positive review last night, and I was really looking forward to a bit of Jake in his boxers .......damnit!  >:( :)

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 17, 2007, 08:56:05 PM
yowzers, look at this thread fly!

Brian, welcome back  :).  Sounds like you had a fine time, non?  Is Paris really an English-free zone?  I once dated a frenchman who lived here in Sydney and refused to speak English   ::).  It is a bugga we're such a long way from interesting places isn't it.  I think many more would explore if the logistics weren't what they were.  Some bazillionaire aught to fund research into teleportation.  Then again, perhaps it's best that only those who truly appreciate difference have the gumption to endure those long haul flights!  Look forward to thursday and hearing your travel tales! 

Luke, two weeks hence sounds grand.  more cake for moi  :P.  Have gotten used to the idea that you're more or less local now so will be strange to think of you back in Perth - almost a long haul flight in itself! 

Fann, lordy me but you've dredged up some memories now!  Indeedy-do I did spend many happy nights at Patch's and 45.  And 'drinking beer thru a straw at The Exchange' had me  ;D ;D ;D.  Not surprised you didn't crack the door at The Shift - tranny disguise notwithstanding.  The only reason I ever got in was that I knew people in high places.  My boyfriend at the time was a barman at the The Exchange and well known in the industry.  Probably the only straight boy in all the land - as it were!  And yes, the shows were fabulous.  We used to spend alot of time at Stranded too, as much for the shows as for the lush and gaudy environs.  I have such strong and vivid memories of Stranded, as a matter of fact. that place had a lot to do with who I am today.  There was so much happiness and acceptance in that scene.  You could be rich, poor, famous, unknown, ugly, beautiful, fat, thin, gay, straight, undecided, transgender, old or young.  None of it mattered - all that mattered was that you cut loose and dived headfirst into the theatre of it all.  Incidentally, did you ever go to "Dean's" in Kellet St after clubbing?  How many times did we stumble out of there after coffee and mud cake, only to find the sun had come up and that the boy you'd been snogging all night in the back lounge at Stranded who looked a bit like Captain Jack Sparrow (it was the new romantic era, after all) was somewhat less glamourous in the harsh light of day  ;D ;D ;D.

Mme, where are you? 

W

I have a husbandless night tonight and the temptation to visit the mountain is great.  Haven't been in so long that I can't readily recall which bits of dialogue go where  :-[.  A cold, rainy friday night seems about right  :).  Wish me luck and tissues.   
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on May 18, 2007, 09:00:33 PM
How did you go, Wolf? I can barely watch it these days but I shall do so (with plenty of hankies on hand) next Saturday at the BBQ. Eighty people all weeping in unison - should be great  :D

No, we all suffer alone with this one, I think.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 18, 2007, 09:57:57 PM
Have a wonderful time, Mini. I almost wish I could have arranged my recent trip to coincide. There are at least 4 people  from my other most frequently visited thread "Gay and Christian" attending. I would particularly like to meet up with Osprey(Rance). He seems to be quite a character. If you are entering thru Los Angeles be prepared for a queue. We were 2 hours in the immigration lineup. May have been due to a possibly late flight from Tokyo being just ahead of us.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on May 19, 2007, 04:49:11 AM
Argh! Two hours in a queue. My idea of hell.

I'm looking forward to meeting Osprey - he has posted some fascinating stuff in the past.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 20, 2007, 07:47:55 PM
Happy Travels, Mini!

Will be thinking of you and envying  :).  And incidentally, I didn't shed a tear on friday night - but was stunned anew (yet again) at the power of BBM.

Brian, are you good for thursday?  9.30am alright for ya?

W
Title: Brokeback on HD-DVD - "The look and sound of perfect"
Post by: BBM-Intern on May 21, 2007, 10:52:48 AM
Hello all my lovely brokies,

Just to let you know that watching BBM on a big plasma TV with HD-DVD is *almost* overload for a brokeaholic.  My husband kept his word and let me have the honour of putting in the BBM disc into the new player to "christen" it (haha, with the recent passing of JF, couldn't help having a dig).  After months of waiting, Toshiba made good their promise and delivered the player today - happy happy, joy joy indeed!

Wow, the colours, the clarity, the detail - so much that I missed in the nine viewings at the cinema and countless ones at home and on the PocketPC.  For instance, with the standard DVD transfer, in the opening scenes when Ennis is standing outside Aguirre's office, the edge of his tan-coloured Stetson has a jagged, pixelated appearance.  Not so on HD-DVD - razor sharp.  Husband commented that one can almost count the whiskers on jakey-poo's chin too!  And crystal-clear clarity in the "spit string" scene!!

Am planning a little private BBM screening soon for some of the local Pride Choir members - it's getting colder these days, so will tell them to come in jeans and flanellette shirts, look a little country anyway.  Roll up, roll up, have a high-time supper then the movie.  Swigging from whiskey bottle completely optional.  Yee-haw!

BTW, do any of you good folk know where I can buy a Rockmount shirt?  If you weren't familiar with them, those were the shirts that were worn mostly by the actors in the movie, particularly Ennis.  Those saw-tooth pocket flaps are such a giveaway.  I tried calling Rockmount in Denver tonight, but the shipping costs are absolutely astronomical!!  Maybe you'd know a local horse and tackle supplier or something like that.

Did you see in TDS about celebrating the International Day Against Homophobia on May 17?  Well, our choir in Brisbane sang at a small rally organised by Amnesty International to mark the day.

Thinking especially of you, Mini Angel, gone so far away - I'm sure you'll be watching and weeping on our behalf.

Love to all,
Lem
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 22, 2007, 09:32:01 PM
Intern,

Wow, counting Jake's beard hairs ........  :P.  That's some definition  ;D.  I love that you had a ceremonial christening of the new hardware. Perfect choice of holy water too! 

Incidentally, the shirts you're after ('sawtooth' pocket flaps, mother-of-pearl buttens etc) are readily available from any western wear outlet.  Any town or district that holds regular rodeos is bound to have at least one such store.  There's a couple here in Sydney in the Hawkesbury area - got my straw stetson from one of these about 10 yrs ago.  If you can't find one of these, then any decent sized saddlery should have at least a few items of western wear.  "Saddleland" stores almost always carry shirts, and quite often run to the really authentic boots and hats.  You're probably already horribly aware of this, but the genuine articles are really pricey here in Oz.  My very simple stetson - which probably retails for $20 in it's birthplace, cost me $190  :o.  Decent boots are generally around $500, and the shirts you're after aren't going to be cheap either.  Still, I'd rather have a "made in Texas" lable than a "made in China" label anyday - cowgirl snobbery!  Meantime, try googling "western wear" for Australia only.  Bound to be something. 

Back in W land - I've just now had a request from a friend to re-watch BBM.  This is one of the friends who liked but not loved it.  She said she feels she's ready to give it another go, and suspects this time it will hit home.  hmmmm ........  we'll see.  Should be interesting, at the very least.  And potentially something alot more, for her definitely, and for me peripherally.

Cheers to all - especially Mini, ambassadoring for us in Denver  :).

W

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 22, 2007, 09:37:50 PM
Lem,

Just googled yr shirts - try "Mavericks Western Wear" in Brisbane. They have the very thing yr looking for (they in fact have a bazillion styles).  Many colours and slim or regular fit etc.  Lots of Ennis like checks and so on.  Retail from around $100. 

Happy shopping!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: BayCityJohn on May 22, 2007, 11:38:10 PM
Ministering angel has arrived safely in Denver :) We got to meet her and spend a little time together this evening. She went to bed early after a very long trip.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: BayCityJohn on May 23, 2007, 10:00:19 AM
Here she is! Ministering angel and Rodney with The Creel and The Net.

(http://www.baycityforums.com/Denver/MiniRod.jpg)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on May 23, 2007, 10:34:13 AM
Ugh!  That's me after about three days of very inadequate sleep. The smile is a permanent feature though - this is so unreal. I'm staying with Jack (brokeback_1) and his wife Katrina. Lovely people, as are all the Brokies I've had the pleasure of meeting so far.

I haven't seen any mountains yet - it was pouring rain when I arrived.

btw, Brian, LAX was a breeze. I was through in no time.

In Denver, talking Brokeback with more to come - does life get any better than this?????
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on May 23, 2007, 09:41:12 PM
Mini, is that really you?  First 'close up' we've had, I think.  You do indeed look very very happy, and not a bit sleep deprived - clearly the joy of being in the Rockies, with Brokies (hey, that might be a poem .....) has cancelled out any deficits in verve  ;).

And is that really THE creel and net?  oh my stars ......... no, it probably doesn't get any better than that.  Is Jack hysterically funny?  I always imagine he must be, given his witty posts.  How lucky you are to be there amongst such diamonds. 

Meanwhile, we're struggling to get a group of 3 to take tea in these most un-Rockies-like mountains.  Just at this juncture it feels very important (for me) to commune with fellow Brokies, since I'm newly in love with BBM again.   Consider me there in spririt, communing away! 

Happy trails.  Bring back some molecules of creel/net if ya can.  Take surreptitious scrapings and seal 'em up in an 'exhibit a' bag. 

Cheers

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: gres on May 24, 2007, 01:21:03 AM
Ugh!  That's me after about three days of very inadequate sleep. The smile is a permanent feature though - this is so unreal. I'm staying with Jack (brokeback_1) and his wife Katrina. Lovely people, as are all the Brokies I've had the pleasure of meeting so far.

I haven't seen any mountains yet - it was pouring rain when I arrived.

btw, Brian, LAX was a breeze. I was through in no time.

In Denver, talking Brokeback with more to come - does life get any better than this?????

Marian, that pic is great. What are you talking about. You  look fab, and so  does Rodney. And those who didn't make it want more pics and you to share the whole experience with us. Have all great time.  :) :-*
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: BBM-Intern on May 24, 2007, 05:39:14 AM
Darling MiniAngel,

Of course it's you - just as I remembered your radiant self from our mini meet-up in Melbourne.  You enjoy yourself there y'hear?  And send us a full report of all the goings-on.

Lem :-)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on May 24, 2007, 10:13:14 PM
The oics are going on the reunion thread.   http://www.davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=10624.2910

 I finally got top to see the mountains today.

I'm feeling slightly queasy but having a great time.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: freetraveller on May 27, 2007, 07:18:23 AM
*peeks into thread*


Dear all, just to let you know I've recently come back from the most amazing trip: 6 weeks in Australia (Melbourne, Adelaide, Kangaroo Island, Alice Springs, Uluru, Cairns, Port Douglas, Gt. Barrier Reef, Daintree Forest, Cape Tribulation, Dunk Island, Brisbane, Fraser Island, Blue Mountains & Sydney).
You're SOOO lucky! I absolutely LOVED Australia and the Aussie people!
I stayed with friends in Melbourne, travelled mostly on my own or with small groups the rest of the trip.
Probably the most memorable place for me was Kangaroo Island, one of the most unspoilt places I've ever seen.
Something magical there, I cannot describe it.  :)

I can't wait to be back!
Hugs,
freetraveller
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 27, 2007, 03:25:49 PM
Glad you enjoyed your time here Freetraveller. You have been to a few places, I have not yet reached. Must get to Kangaroo Island sometime. Have not been north of Cairns, afraid I do not like the heat, although I have just booked a train journey to outback Queensland for first weeks of September. Am visiting Longreach and Charleville with a few days in each of Rockhampton, Maryborough, Toowoomba and Brisbane. Strange isn't it, I would give anything to be able to live in Europe. ;D
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on May 29, 2007, 07:47:57 PM
I am utterly exhausted and enraptured. The BBAQ people did a fabulous job. I watched the film and had to hide round the back of the hall for 20 minutes because I was shattered. RodneyFL has done some beautiful readings. The trip up to Wyoming was just amazing. Lightning Flat, the Big Horns (they ain't in Texas), Brokenback Mt, Ten Sleep, the graveyard - thrill overload.

Riding right down the mountain in Ennis's turquoise truck, wearing the divorce jacket, clutching assorted shirts, finding ciggie butts in the truck. Argh!!

Tomorrow I head east to Philadelphia via Chicago. No pics - I own a real film camera.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: freetraveller on May 30, 2007, 05:20:03 AM
Glad you enjoyed your time here Freetraveller. You have been to a few places, I have not yet reached. Must get to Kangaroo Island sometime. Have not been north of Cairns, afraid I do not like the heat, although I have just booked a train journey to outback Queensland for first weeks of September. Am visiting Longreach and Charleville with a few days in each of Rockhampton, Maryborough, Toowoomba and Brisbane. Strange isn't it, I would give anything to be able to live in Europe. ;D

Thanks Brian.
I had to take some unpaid leave from work to be able to travel so many weeks in Australia. I guess some Aussies do the same when they decide to travel to Europe. The flight is so long that you have to make the most of your stay, I suppose.
I also have never been in many places in Europe, where distances are not as big as in Australia. :)
At the end of March, while I was in the Melbourne area, local people were complaining about the drought. And on Kangaroo Island they said it hadn't rained for 5 months.
I hope the situation has not worsened since then.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 30, 2007, 05:19:21 PM
Did you notice that the photo caption in Monday's TDS is by our own SJ Mellor. Where are you these day's Stephen?  Guess you have left our shores for warmer climes. Got down to 2.5'C here overnight. Guess it is winter tomorrow.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fann on May 30, 2007, 10:42:43 PM

 Hi Brian, Mini, Wolf et al.....

I know what you mean 'bout the weather  :) They said it would be down to zero in the mountains last night. I'm not complaining...no-one comes into our library till 12noon so plenty of time to check out this thread...again.

I've been AWOL due to kids with colds but have thought a lot about "checking in".

Mini, I'm so envious of your getting to the reunion. And may I say you look pretty good for having jet lag !! It must have been just amazing getting near all those BBM momento's AND sharing the occasion with fellow BBMer's en masse. I'll come with you next time and like you, will have divorce on the cards  :) But what the hell you only live once.

 Hi there Wolf  :) Just thinking about your post re club scene. Jack Sparrow eh? Yeh I could've gone a Johnny Depp/ new romantic type meself but as you said with your boyfriend being the only straight boy in the land all I could do was help check out the trade for my gaypals  ;D

I went to Stranded once in 1981 and I think it folded not long after (?) I was still a bit intimidated by that scene at 16 and didn't do any serious nightclubbing till my friend Paul came out a few years later. The Kellet street cafe doesn't ring a bell. I'd stay at a friends terrace in Crown street every weekend so usually would go back to his place and hit the Lindemans and mosey on down to Darlo cafes for brekky.

Anyhow did your friend enjoy her 2nd viewing of BBM? You mentioned in an earlier post of trying to get your dad to watch it. My folks have just got Foxtel reconnected again and I was telling them about the new interactive(?) movie viewing thing they've got now, just happened to slip in that BBM was the first movie previewed and tried to drum up some enthusiasm..........."It's kind of a new age western dad.....um without Clint Eastwood........." Suffice to say his generation is about as far removed from planet queer as you can get. "In a galaxy far far away......."
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: michaelflanagansf on May 31, 2007, 11:18:57 AM
Hi All!  I'm back from the BBQ and had a lovely time meeting Ministering Angel!  And I wanted to point you all to a new book mentioned by a new Australian poster in the book threads:

http://www.davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=232.msg898563#msg898563

I've also posted and mentioned this thread to him.  Thought some of you might want to send him a p.m. and make him feel welcome.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fann on May 31, 2007, 11:21:14 PM
 
 Hi Michael

Thanks for that. I'll see if I can order it for our library. I read the Australian Story transcript last night and it looks like it will be an interesting read.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 01, 2007, 12:03:35 AM

 Hi Michael

Thanks for that. I'll see if I can order it for our library. I read the Australian Story transcript last night and it looks like it will be an interesting read.

It does indeed!  Now I'm just hoping they'll release it over here in the U.S.!  >:(

Maybe Heath can put a bug in a publisher's ear!   :D

And hello from one librarian to another!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fann on June 01, 2007, 01:35:33 AM

 I'm sure a US publisher will pick it up, it's one of those classic human interest stories that would sell reasonably well. To give you an indication when I checked out the catalogue we already had a copy at our main branch and it has a healthy borrowing history too.

Heath should give it a plug over there, if you can't get Oprah what better endorsement than a Hollywood star :)

So, another Librarian  8) We're coming out of the woodworks what with Brianr being on board a few posts back!


Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 01, 2007, 02:33:30 AM
I'm sure a US publisher will ick it up, it's one of those classic human interest stories that would sell reasonably well. To give you an indication when I checked out the catalogue we already had a copy at our main branch and it has a healthy borrowing history too.

Heath should give it a plug over there, if you can't get Oprah what better endorsement than a Hollywood star :)

So, another Librarian  8) We're coming out of the woodworks what with Brianr being on board a few posts back!

Well he's with Random House in Australia, so it wouldn't be too odd for him to get a contract with them over here.

And yes, I'm a reference librarian - have been for about 8 years now (I moved from a database publisher to the public library - and have never looked back).

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 01, 2007, 06:24:59 PM
Strange I put 'Say it Out Loud' in Amazon and while it did not come up, it provided a link to Adam Sutton. That was not successful either. Perhaps it is in the pipeline.
Has anyone in Australia been able to order  the Beyond Brokeback book. I tried a few weeks ago but my browser froze. That might be my computer >:( which is way past its use by date. Am waiting until I do a few weeks work  >:( soon and have a payslip that will encourage Apple to give me an Educational discount.
Viewing all the photos of the Weekend they held in Colorado makes me wish we could do something here. Pity we are all so spread out and rather few in number. Fann's message to me about reading my first posts made me go back through our thread and wonder about some who do not post anymore. Some  have left the forum, a few are still here but not active recently and some eg "Photondancer" have been active in the last week but not posting here. Aussie Brokebackfans, If you are lurking, please let us know you are still with us or introduce yourself to us. Looking forward to meeting Madame and Wolf again on Tuesday. Am heading for Queensland in first weeks of September and thinking about Europe again next year. Besides an  invitation by an ex-student to stay with him in Munich, the lovely Jari has also invited me to stay in Helsinki. Now they are talking about having a Brokeback get together next year in London. I see Ministering Angel is in Philadelphia this weekend and hopefully meeting DaveinPhilly who was so hospitable to me on my recent trip. I have posted a picture of us
Re: Gay and Christian in the World of Today « Reply #4681
http://www.davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=8757.from1180664733
Have also been uncharacteristically vain and posted some other photos of me on my recent trip
 Members Pics - put a face to the name! « Reply #159
http://www.davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=8792.msg900694#msg900694
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on June 02, 2007, 07:14:01 AM
Viewing all the photos of the Weekend they held in Colorado makes me wish we could do something here. Pity we are all so spread out and rather few in number. Fann's message to me about reading my first posts made me go back through our thread and wonder about some who do not post anymore. Some  have left the forum, a few are still here but not active recently and some eg "Photondancer" have been active in the last week but not posting here. Aussie Brokebackfans, If you are lurking, please let us know you are still with us   or introduce yourself to us. Looking forward to meeting Madame and Wolf again on Tuesday. 

Hi Brian,

I still check this thread from time to time.  It would be great to have an Aussie get together.  So far I've only met one other Brokie.  Unfortunately, even though I'm in the area, your Mash meetings are invariably during the week which makes them impossible for me to get to.  Doesn't anyone else here work during the week??
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 02, 2007, 02:55:26 PM
So here's something I've been wondering...do y'all know if there are any Kiwi brokies?  I don't remember seeing any - and that seems a bit odd, considering we have folks in South Africa, Taiwan, India, etc.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 02, 2007, 04:42:41 PM
So here's something I've been wondering...do y'all know if there are any Kiwi brokies?  I don't remember seeing any - and that seems a bit odd, considering we have folks in South Africa, Taiwan, India, etc.
Just a Kiwi wannabe. Getting to be a bit embarrassing. Everyone knows my plans are to move to Dunedin but there is so much to do to tidy up 25 years of living in this house before I can sell it.  I have also wondered about any Kiwis but they might not come here.  Kiwis relationship with  Australians is a bit like Canadians with Americans. Others in the world often see them as the same but they naturally prefer to display their independence.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: TwistsBitch on June 02, 2007, 06:03:01 PM
Pom jumping in here!  I know of one Kiwi, Kea.  She lived in the US but moved back to NZ sometime last year, which I believe was partly inspired by her response to BBM.  I knew her in a cyber-sense from another BBM board before we both "graduated" to the DC forum.  She hasn't been actively posting since she got busy with the move but I do know that she made the move successfully.  She wrote a fantastic fanfic that is highly regarded amongst the slashers that can be found at her livejournal :  http://keakaha.livejournal.com/  . She has also posted poetry on the other BBM board.

So how come I noticed your question?  Well, I'm soon to move to Australia from the UK so have been furtively checking out the G'day thread.  I'll be in the South Sydney area (Shires is it called? Or is that from Lord of the Rings??).  You may get a gatecrasher at one of your meets at some point!

The move has been on the cards for the last year & now it's iminent I'm having major mixed feelings, but I'm trying to draw on the lessons I've learnt from BBM: if you have an opportunity presented to you then go for it, don't spend all your time debating & worrying about not doing it.  With anything there is always a chance it might end up negative, but ultimately better to have given the opportunity a fair shot.  Life is very short!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fann on June 02, 2007, 07:14:38 PM

I asked for the Beyond Brokeback book at Borders Bondi Junction store last week and they only had Close range. I might try Bookhouse our official bookbuyer, see if they'll order it for us. Failling that we'll direct order it through this site. Our 973 collection needs a serious upgrade anyhow's  :)

Re an Aussie style Brokeback get-together here it's a shame when the Adam Sutton book was launched there wasn't some BBM tie-in conference/BBQ. Maybe we need to advertise outside this forum to find out how much local interest is out there?




Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 02, 2007, 09:20:37 PM
Welcome TwistsBitch to our thread and especially to Australia when you arrive. Keep us informed so we can form a welcome party for you ;D. Depends on how far south of Sydney as to whether you will be in the Shire. Across the Georges River is the Sutherland Shire which is referred to by its inhabitants as the Shire. If you are north of the Georges River you will be in a Council area.  Sydney mainly has councils while country areas are shires but as Sydney has expanded, it has included some shires. On the other hand I live in the City of the Blue Mountains??? (an area nothing like a city so go figure).
 Good news, I have just ordered 'Beyond Brokeback' successfully (perhaps because I doubled my internet speed this week,)  I do not think you can buy it anywhere else except from the publishers. Cost for paperback is $AU30.74 including postage
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: michaelflanagansf on June 03, 2007, 11:38:24 AM
The move has been on the cards for the last year & now it's iminent I'm having major mixed feelings, but I'm trying to draw on the lessons I've learnt from BBM: if you have an opportunity presented to you then go for it, don't spend all your time debating & worrying about not doing it.  With anything there is always a chance it might end up negative, but ultimately better to have given the opportunity a fair shot.  Life is very short!

Good for you - and right you are! 
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fann on June 04, 2007, 04:59:40 PM
Welcome Twistsbitch !! Please apologise for my rude continuing of literary matters et al. Was typing a message to you when said family wanted my attention :)

I'm fairly new to this thread so don't know any Kiwi's either. But I do know with your regards your move to the Shire you'll love it. As it gets warmer again here the beach and cafe scene in Cronulla is really laid back and not as hectic as other beach suburbs in Sydney. The best cafe in Cronulla Mall is Nulla Nulla where they make a great Margharita and the foods pretty good too.

And totally agree with your ethos of life being too short :) Enjoy your time here when are you coming?

 Hi Brian
 Lucky you!! I got a PM to say they weren't shipping it. Where are you getting your copy from ?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: TwistsBitch on June 04, 2007, 05:18:45 PM
Thanks for the welcomes & the info on the locales.  I think it will be late August when I'm over.  Have to leave job & sell house before then. Doesn't look like much written down in a few words but easier said than done applies! I'll drop in here now & then so no moaning about whinging poms!  ;D
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 04, 2007, 11:50:22 PM
hi all oldies and newies.. :)

treat time today...I cooked for both the wolf gal and Brian...much much fun...and I'll imagine cooking for ye all one fine day!...more soon on a probable Sat night late in July or early August...if that suits...Wolfie can easily do a night...

hugs all
Title: Sydney get together
Post by: brian on June 05, 2007, 01:25:09 AM
Further to Madame's message. Yes Wolf and I  had a lovely luncheon at her place today and this when Madame is expecting 7 people arriving tonight from interstate to stay for 5 or so days. I do not know how she does it.
 As mentioned, we discussed having a meeting of all Sydney Brokies  including lurkers and (and of course anyone else from elsewhere in Australia or even overseas who can make it - Luke?).
We want to start off as broad as possible and get your opinions. A central location as we realise Penrith/Glenbrook  is not the centre of the universe. Saturday afternoon or evening. Wolf prefers evening but if that is impossible for some let us know. To give time for people to organise their diaries we thought late July to early August.  Let's say 1 of the following dates.
July 21
July 28
August 4
August 11
August 18

Let us know which dates to strike out . You can pm me if you like.
Also any ideas re location and activities- I guess eating and chatting mainly - unless someone knows a  central place with a DVD player to show our Movie.
Over to you.
On other matters, have bought Adam Sutton's book today so looking forward to some reading.
I ordered  'Beyond Brokeback' at the site above- went to overseas section, No message yet about it not being possible. They did send me an email back in March saying it was not yet possible but think the problem has been overcome by using paypal and mastercard. I used mastercard but have now joined paypal.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 06, 2007, 09:04:28 PM
Greetings

Had lovely lunch with Mme S and Brian on tuesday.  Mme, your hospitality under very trying conditions was something to behold  :).  Thanks again, for the delicious meal and the lovely chat around the sunny kitchen table.  We three feel a bit like old and dear friends sometimes - something I cherish.  Brian, always a pleasure to spend time with you.  Loved hearing some of your travel tales and trying in vain to find things in Mme's kitchen with you  :P. 

Hi to all.  Look forward to forthcoming weekend 'social', inclusive of the working folk!

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 07, 2007, 09:00:27 PM
hi all...pleasure cooking for ye dudes..'twas indeed a lovely couple of hours...not sunny today! glorious rain!!!!

all the dates are fine with me....perhaps if we can sort of lock one in..or perhaps two....and have an idea of numbers then the next step can be taken...

oh joy I say :)
hugs to you all....am excited about further meetings....

even though there are rather large slabs of time I'm not present here....it doesn't mean I'm not bbmforumming (double m?..spelling not my gift in life) in thought...as it were
more hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 08, 2007, 01:41:41 AM
Hi Everyone,
have had a few replies with promises of following up. At the moment we are removing August 18 from the list. Due to afternoon/evening problem, I am wondering if best might be meeting about 3pm then those who want go on for dinner ( or some may need to join us later).
Just a note, I am having computer monitor problems (it works if I bang it on the desk at start up  ;D) It is under warranty but if they take it away I cannot use my computer. Fortunately I am working at the moment (one of the reasons for working is to buy a new computer) so if needs be I can access the forum at work, However please do not be annoyed if I am slow to respond to a PM especially over the weekend. Why Oh Why did I throw the old monitors into the cleanup last year?
Perhaps you can let me know if you are interested in attending. I think we have 5 so far.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on June 11, 2007, 06:32:09 AM
Hello All,

August 11 is best for me as was the 18th but that seems to be out now.  28 July and 4 August are possibles but 21 July is out.  Looking forward to meeting everyone at long last!!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 12, 2007, 01:10:16 AM
"Oh Joy Oh Rapture" :D :D :D :D :D :D
My copy of "Beyond Brokeback" was in the mailbox this afternoon. Am I the first in Australia?

Also 'Say it Out Loud - journey of a real cowboy" is well worth treading. Cannot say "enjoyable" as sometimes it is heartbreaking but then so is "Brokeback Mountain" I will write more when I have finished it.
Want to decide on a date for our meeting soon, so let me know any restrictions you have please.
Brian
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on June 12, 2007, 10:35:48 AM
I got my copy three weeks ago but then I cheated and came to the US to pick it up. I'm in Arizona at present with the wonderfully funny and stimulating Canstandit. Jo is a total delight.



Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 13, 2007, 07:55:11 PM
August 11 sounds good.  Brian and Mme, will have to pow wow with you re: car pooling.  Since I can't get away much before 7pm, it could turn out to be a bit tricky.  Don't want to slow you both up!

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on June 13, 2007, 07:58:30 PM
oh, and YAY BANANAS to Brian on the early arrival of the book.  Am somewhat envious!

w
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fann on June 13, 2007, 09:34:04 PM
Hi all

Still got my copy of the Sutton book on reserve, so Brian, I have to wait  :-[

But if you get Beyond Brokeback before Aug 11th bring it along so we can give all have a peek at what the rest of Australia is missing. It should be given the appropriate baptism.

Hi Wolf,

Did your kids watch "Scoobydoo" the other night? I thought I noticed (but might be wrong) Linda Cardellini playing the very unglamorous Velma? I got all gushy-girly excited as Cassie is my favourite BBM female character with Mrs Twist a close 2nd.

 

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 13, 2007, 10:17:56 PM
I think we can say it is August 11. It seems we will need to  first meet at 3pm and those who want can go on later.  Ideas of place(s) needed now please.
I will bring along my copy of "Beyond Brokeback" but may need to chain it to my body  ;D

Not sure what you mean by baptism, neither sprinkling nor total immersion sound appropriate to me.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fann on June 13, 2007, 10:52:24 PM
 Sorry Brian  ;D ;D ;D

A mere accidental sprinkling of champers perhaps?........Okay I'll stop now
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 14, 2007, 01:25:40 AM
There has already been a tear or two and I have only read the first few pages.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on June 14, 2007, 11:01:28 AM
It's seriously hard reading in places. I've dipped in here and there but it's not a book you curl up with for a pleasant few hours.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on June 14, 2007, 10:38:03 PM
Hi All,


I have got my copy of the book few weeks ago too..

Could not have time to go through as much as I like.. but will do soon.

Hi Mini,

Enjoy your stay in Arizona  and please post few pics for us .


Hugs to all.

Title: Re: G'day! Brizzie calling!
Post by: BBM-Intern on June 15, 2007, 02:10:19 AM
Hello all,

Just to also say I received my copy of "Beyond Brokeback" a few weeks ago as it was on pre-order.  To my chagrin, I haven't finished it all yet, I just wanted to read each story and allow some time to think about the situation, the lesson - and allow a little time for reflection.  Wow, you're so right, some of the stories are so heartbreaking, but Brokeback has given these stories a voice and it's about time the world heard them.

Also, please keep me in mind as it's Brisbane Pride Fair Day tomorrow (June 16), so I'll be all westerned-up as Jack Twist (unlikely as I look in that get-up!), and distributing cards on "Beyond Brokeback".  The very kind Ellen (tellyouwhat) sent me a bunch of cards to give out, so I'll be proselytising tomorrow - maybe get a few converts.  Then we'll see whether total immersion or sprinkling is necessary!  I really must say my prayers to St Jack of Brokeback Mountain for strength and inspiration!

Oh, I know you all have the date of August 11 locked in for your reunion, but if anyone wants to have a mini catch-up on Brokeback in Sydney, I should be there at the end of August on the way through to Batemans Bay.   Coffee, piece of cherry cake anyone?

Love to all,
Lem :-)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 15, 2007, 04:45:24 PM
Brian .. I'm ok for 11 August ... Just locked it in my diary. Any other details available? Venue, activities etc

Luke
That is great Luke. I really must depend on others for venue and activities- not my expertise at all. Please put on your thinking caps this wet weekend

I hope everything goes well for you this weekend Lem. I think the weather is going to be better than here in Sydney. I am sure someone will be able to meet with you for cherry cake as you pass through Sydney. I was going to contact you as I am leaving for Queensland on August 31 returning September 19  doing a rail trip to Longreach, Rockhampton, Maryborough, Charleville and Toowoomba but passing thru Brisbane a few times. However  we may pass like ships in the night :)
Title: Re: G'day! The book 'Say It Out Loud"
Post by: brian on June 15, 2007, 11:20:38 PM
I want to encourage everyone to read this book.

'Say it Out Loud; by Adam Sutton & Neil McMahon. Random House Australia.
ISBN 9781741665451
I am wondering how it can be advertised to Overseas Brokies. It is not available on Amazon although with an international publisher like Random House, it should be.
It is about a real cowboy and almost a ‘Beyond Brokeback ‘ story. Adam met Heath Ledger when he was working as a horse wrangler on the ‘Ned Kelly’ set and he had the task of preparing the actors to ride although Heath did not really require any teaching. He has become a close friend of Heath’s and was at the final shoots for Brokeback although he did not work on our Film.

In the acknowledgements it states
‘Heath Ledger’s part in this story cannot, of course, be overstated. He was never a more generous and genuine friend to Adam than when he read an all but final draft of this book and got straight on the phone to say simply  “Bushy  (Adam’s nickname in movie circles), I'm so proud of you”.  He didn’t want to change a thing.  We know him as a man to whom privacy is everything, we cannot thank him enough for being willing to sacrifice a little of that to enable Adam to tell his story more powerfully, and with full support and understanding. “

I had read the article in the Sydney Morning Herald over a year ago, headlined “Meet Heath’s mate, the real gay cowboy’ This ran across the top of the front page above a photo of Adam and his horse which is on the cover of the book and later won an award as ‘photo of the year’. Adam told his story in response to the comment of Bob Katter (a red neck member of parliament) talking about Brokeback and gay cowboys and saying    “ maybe there are some out there but I’ve never heard of ‘em. I mean, it’s not a profession that attracts those sort of people”
The newspaper story resulted in a TV documentary ‘Since Adam was a Boy’ and has now led to the book.

I was struck by the problems Adam had coming to terms with his homosexuality 30 years after me.  I really thought life was a bit easier now. There were so many similarities despite our completely different personalities.
Adam is the jokester, the life of the party, who spent time in prison as a result of a drunk driving accident which killed another man and gets into fights. None of this is me. Some of his overt personality is an attempt to hide the growing realisation that he is attracted to other men.
Even though Adam was not religious like me, this passage also reflects my thoughts as a young man.  “So even if I was dimly aware that there had to be other people like that  somewhere, it didn’t make me feel any better, because I didn’t want to be like them.  It was ugly and wrong and people hated it, hated them. I hated them, whoever they were. The only thing that stopped me completely despising myself was the delusion that there had to be some mistake. Eventually I would come right.
And then many years later after he began to tell a few friends he writes of how “the floodgates had opened and it’s hard to put into words how free I felt. Many gay people describe the same experience of suddenly realising just how weighed down they had been, once that burden was lifted. ”
Later  as he struggles with relationships he writes “LOVE - The word said out loud, or just the idea of it rumbling around in my head - could hypnotise me. It seems to be one of the crueller punishments of years in the closet that once you’ve stepped out and finally opened yourself to feeling something, you’re not sure how to recognise it or what to do with it.”
The story has the added advantage of being set in some exotic Australian locations, including Cairns, Broome “a place of heat and beauty, perched on the north-west coast between a sea so blue you could weep and a rich red desert” and the Snowy Mountains.
Somehow we have to get this book to our overseas Brokeback  Friends. They will love it.



Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on June 17, 2007, 01:26:17 AM
thinking cap?...oh crumbs where have I put it...give me a couple of days...ok now..Aug 11...guess it might depend on how many folk....
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fann on June 20, 2007, 07:16:58 PM
Brian

Have to agree with Luke, great review! My colleague just handed me my 'golden' copy from our collection which had been on reserve. Can't wait to delve into it. If it's alright with you I might post something in the general discussion to lead people here to read your post.

Regards a venue for August 11. How does everyone feel about a club in the city? The City Tattersalls club perhaps?

Fann
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on June 21, 2007, 07:41:47 AM
The problem with right in the city is that most of us live outside the metropolitan area ie Blue Mountains and Hawkesbury.  I could do the city at a stretch (it's at least a 2 hour drive each way) but it would have to be during the day and somewhere near a safe, easy to drive into carpark with lots of room to manoeuvre.  (I drive a van, not one of those tiny coffins-on-wheels.)  Evenings in the city would be out of the question for me.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on June 29, 2007, 03:42:25 PM
I have been struck in reading "Beyond Brokeback" that there are 3 contributors (so far) from NSW that I had not heard of before. My apologies if they did contribute to this thread and I missed them.  One young 20 year old from the North Coast who has not been online since February 2006. He writes sadly that he has never had a boyfriend which made me smile. Hopefully he now has a partner which keeps him far too busy ;) The other two are in Sydney and while one has not been logged on since last September the other is on regularly but not in our thread. I did want our get together to be a chance for others to meet with us and that is why I felt the city was the easiest for anyone to attend.  I rarely drive, if possible, so the city is easiest for me and guess Luke will not have a car.  I do no think anywhere west of Parramatta would be attractive to those in the east or south.  The Tattersalls is the only suggestion so far.  I think I have been there once and am willing to check it out this week now that I have finished a short and hopefully last stint of casual work (has paid for a new laptop). I want to advertise in TDS so we need to decide details in the next week. Over to you PLEASE.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on June 29, 2007, 04:52:41 PM
Hi Brian,

East of Parramatta is fine but please not right in the middle of the city.  It is a nightmare for me to get into even by a combination of car, train and taxi.  Any of the larger surburban shopping areas on a train line for those who don't drive would be fine - don't mind which direction it is in.  I live 40 kms from the nearest public transport (and nearest post office and supermarket) so I have to drive at least part of the distance anyway. 
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on July 02, 2007, 09:22:24 PM
Thinking how great it would be if we could somehow do a similar weekend to the Denver event.  Find some lovely, rugged spot within a couple of hours of Sydney, and get together there over the course of two days and a night.  Stay for duration or just a few hours - whatever suits.  Open fires, bushwalks, a screening, lots of food, etc etc.

Is it remotely doable?

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 02, 2007, 09:56:35 PM
Sorry to sound cynical, however we cannot even find a place to have afternoon tea that suits everyone. I am on the verge of cancelling as no-one seems able to suggest a suitable place.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on July 04, 2007, 08:28:56 AM
Brian,

Don't give up yet!  All we need is somewhere on a rail/bus line for those using public transport and with lots of easy to use parking for those who are driving.  I only know places around the Hawkesbury so really can't help with suggestions in other areas.  However, I'm perfectly happy to drive further afield as long as there is parking.  Anywhere from Palm Beach to Sutherland to Hornsby to Penrith to Camden is fine with me but PLEASE not the CBD.  Do we know where everyone is coming from?  Maybe if we make a list of where everyone is, that will help to narrow it down to a central area.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 05, 2007, 03:38:25 AM
by golly Lukie...don't that sound fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yep for the day....

see what responses come ...

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 05, 2007, 03:41:56 AM
by golly Lukie...don't that sound fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yep for the day....

see what responses come ...

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on July 05, 2007, 05:34:57 AM
That sounds wonderful Luke!!!  Definitely do-able and I'd be more than happy to contribute to the costs!
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on July 05, 2007, 03:23:47 PM
Just to satisfy my own curiosity, because I'm completely unfamiliar with Australian geography, where the heck is Brooklyn in Australia? (I mean, you have to specify the state and nearest large city, too!)

Thanks!

mod: oops, rereading it, I guess you partially explained, but is that NSW near Sydney, or somewhere else?

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 05, 2007, 03:52:15 PM
Fritz, Brooklyn is a little village on the Hawkesbury River just north of Sydney. The railway station is called Hawkesbury River (I know Fritz is a railway man, like me)

Luke, Is this meant to be for August 11? or another date. Weather could be a problem in August.
I am useless at catering, outdoor picnics generally result in me making a few ham or peanut butter sandwiches and being terribly miserable so someone else will need to organise - am willing to pay.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on July 05, 2007, 06:01:01 PM
Don't I wish!  :D

Hope y'all can get together and have a great time!

And thanks for the holiday greeting!

Having a sister who lives in New York, I was tickled to find that there's a Brooklyn in NSW!

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 08, 2007, 04:18:08 PM
I am sorry to say this. I tried to talk Luke out of hiring a houseboat which will be a lot more than $500. I could not commit to going at this stage. I would need to wait for the weather on the day. I would be very uncomfortable on a boat any smaller  than a Manly Ferry and must say I hate self catering.  On the rare occasions I have visitors, I always take them to a restaurant. I woud spend about 6 hours travelling to get to and from Brooklyn (Hawkesbury River).I wanted something which would be possible whether 2 or 20 turned up and people could stay for as long as they like  I am regretting starting this whole discussion and hope someone else can take it over.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 10, 2007, 07:16:03 PM
well mr lukie...all the very very and a few more ..for the job...

we can always IMAGINE the boat thing!..ah the joy of that beautiful Hawkesbury River...

as for the get together...life has its own time...

all is well....methinks...

hugs
Joan
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on July 11, 2007, 05:05:56 PM
Thanks Joan...
I agree - life does indeed have its own "time" ...
See you when I see you!

hugs too
Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on July 17, 2007, 06:59:13 PM
Seems I missed the flurry of plans and unplans  :-\ ;D.

Luke, all the best for the coming months in the new job.  Will DEFINITELY do some serious cake and coffee with y'all in October.  And thanks so much for your generosity in offering houseboatery - a very thoughtful thing to do.  Now let me just say this, "what in hell happened ta August"?  :D.

To the rest of the Augusters, could we not have a slap up meal at good old Lone Star in the Panthers Complex?  It's tawdry and apalling in several ways, but it's warm inside, has plenty of parking right outside the door, they do a reasonable steak, and the staff will line dance to 'Cotton Eyed Joe' if you ask them nicely.  Then there's the whole Texas, moose heads, cowboy theme - which has to be worth a couple of votes.  If we went early enough, we could conceivably go from there to Mash for sweet afters.  There'd be no viewing of course - unless we booked one of the private rooms at Lone Star ......... hmmm ...... now there's a thought! 

Brian, no self-catering or small boat-induced-heeby jeebies involved.  AND it's somewhat less than 6 hrs return  ;).

Last but not least, it works for 2 or 20.

Lemme know what yooz think.

W

Final edit to add that I personally can only do an evening gig.  Hubby's largesse is infinite - so long as kids are fed, watered, bathed and put to bed  ::).
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 20, 2007, 09:51:27 PM
Wolfie sweetness...that sounds fine!...loadssssssssssssssssssss of parking..easy peasy to get to....ok gang..wadda ya reckon...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on July 22, 2007, 03:41:58 AM
Wolf, that sounds excellent!!  Hopefully that should suit everyone and for those travelling a long distance, there's a motel attached to the club.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Aussie Bloke on July 26, 2007, 12:57:25 AM
hI EVRYONE,
I have not popped in here for ages, partly due to my home internet going on the blink. Hopefully within two months I will be using satellite broadband (dish all subsidized by the Government !!!) and I will be living in my shifted house so I can get on easily and more frequently. It's good to see people still keeping in touch.

I was at mardi gras in early march and as Adam Sutton walked back from the opening car up along the parade route I saw him go right past me and called out. He stopped and shook hands and said hello which was really lovely.

Beautiful rain today in NW Victoria and plenty more needed to refill the dam.

Hi to everyone,

Bernie
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 26, 2007, 01:50:03 AM
hI EVRYONE,
I have not popped in here for ages, partly due to my home internet going on the blink. Hopefully within two months I will be using satellite broadband (dish all subsidized by the Government !!!) and I will be living in my shifted house so I can get on easily and more frequently. It's good to see people still keeping in touch.
Welcome back Bernie.
I have often wondered about you, we are so few here in Aussieland and of course you being a teacher made me feel we had something in common. I know it must be hard teaching in a country town where it is hard to hide. It was difficult enough in a city like Sydney. Great thing about being retired is that I no longer give a damn.
Take care and keep in touch.
Brian
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on July 30, 2007, 07:36:12 PM
greetings to you, Bernie!  good to have you back in the ranks  :).  look forward to catching up further.

meantime, what's our status for 11th aug?  I'm all set to go to Lone Star, and looks as tho ffrn and Mme will be coming.  Any other takers?  Brian?  Stephen (if you're about)? 

perhaps we could set a time now, ladies.  7.30 works for me - in that I'm not likely to get there any earlier.  what say yooz?

W
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on July 30, 2007, 11:01:44 PM
Sorry count me out Aug 11
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on July 31, 2007, 04:13:51 AM
yep by me... :)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on August 01, 2007, 05:56:48 PM
Mme,  :).  look forward to steak, bad house wine and moose heads!

Brian,  :'(.  bugga.  hope we can catch up soon - maybe at Mash.

w
Title: Good Weekend August 4
Post by: brian on August 02, 2007, 09:43:43 PM
I am damn angry
In the Sydney Morning Herald today is the advert

Tomorrow
GAYS IN HIGH PLACES
The secret lives of our pollies, executives and religious leaders.
 GOOD WEEKEND (so will also be in Melbourne Age)
There is a photo of a man with a pink tie and pink cufflinks.???????

It sounds like they are going to reveal members of the Mafia.
Who’s f..ing business is it?  If it is secret, how did the reporters find out?

I get sick of people winking and telling me just about every prime minister since the war had “an interest in boys” Apparently it is a way of insulting them.
Earlier this year at my “musical memories” course someone said Danny Kaye was “that way inclined” and some of the little old ladies in their 70’s said “Oh don’t say that”
I felt like yelling “Does that change his ability as an entertainer?” What the f.. has it got to do with listening to his songs anyway.
I will read the article, I am human, and I can see lots of gays ‘tittering “ over the revelations. Perhaps that is just as bad although there is some satisfaction in seeing that gays can make it even if they have to keep their sexuality secret.

On the “Gays and masculinity” thread there has been an off topic discussion as to whether gays especially those who are “masculine” in appearance should let their sexuality be known. There is the benefit that society would see us as “normal” (not wearing pink ties :)) and can also be helpful to young gays confused about their sexuality.

Oh for the day when to say someone is gay is no different to saying they are Asian or Black with no hint of a smirk at revealing some terrible secret.  Sadly I doubt it will happen in my lifetime.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on August 03, 2007, 01:45:26 AM
Brian Darlin'...while the gender of our partners is a matter of interest, all it is showing is that the society fails to recognise the diversity of sexuality...the rich mosaic of it all...fails to understand

That's one of the reasons I related to the film..to the story...I related to acting....mine not connected to my sexuality..mine related to pretending to be  Catholic...

many hugs

me too looking forward to whatever steak whatever wine whatever moose heads..and fine conversation
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on August 03, 2007, 09:46:37 PM
I will have to retract some of my anger at least at the newspaper and reporters. There was no actual outing of anybody but it still made for depressing reading.
examples
"Some live a lie; some opt for a half-truth; some (but only a very few) are out and proud. Why is it so hard for people in public life in Australia to admit they're gay?."
and
 "do I know out people at really senior level? Not many. Mostly it has to do with promotion ...... you have to be seen to fit in."

My heroes are people like Justice Michael Kirby and Senator Bob Brown.

Still why all the pink? I never wear pink :o
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on August 03, 2007, 11:39:27 PM
because the world is full of sterotypes..........

glad to see a little of thy anger has gone elsewhere
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on August 06, 2007, 10:32:05 PM
Was with a friend this morn when we bumped into (literally) an old friend of her's (my friend's friend, as it were!).  Upon parting, my friend turned to me and said "THAT'S the woman who's afraid of gay people".  Apparently, when last they met, my friend had mentioned that her current medical practice has quite a number of gay clients, to which the old friend replied "really ... oh, I'd be so FRIGHTENED". 

I've had a good few chuckles this morning visualising various ways in which men wearing pink ties might monster the dear woman in the waiting room of my friend's practice.   OOGA BOOGA!

W

steak, fries, plonk and moose  :P
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on August 12, 2007, 02:19:09 AM
steak fries plonk and moose next week...alas a sick Wolf....ah well...a whole week of anticipation!

get well girl
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on August 12, 2007, 06:38:27 AM
Plonk? ???

and Moose? ???

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on August 13, 2007, 09:09:28 PM
Plonk=cheap wine, Fritz.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on August 18, 2007, 07:13:42 PM
hi there all...

what a scrumptious night we had...dear Jocelyn, Pens, et moi..

a brief post...chocolate birthday cake to prepare...etc

Lone Star was jammed to the rafters...a longish wait....over to dear old Panthers...we were like lost lambs a bit ;)...someone feed us! amidst the noise and panther images I thought of you Brian!...how UNBrianish it all was...a longish wait for a table....we shared pizza...dessert (thanks for the sharing gals!)...and stories...such wonderful story tellers!

it was a delight..those 4 hours....

ongoing treasures methinks...

next time I COOK :)

loads of hugs

and a special thanks to Annie for that story that has brought us togther....

oh...what the heck...more hugs!

'n who'd like a piece of the cake...Gippsland cream?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on August 19, 2007, 11:32:38 AM
Sounds divine. Wish I could have been there.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on August 19, 2007, 04:06:23 PM
Well then...I shall imagine...and let's see what life does with the imagined

hugs
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf on August 26, 2007, 09:33:53 PM
Greetings Earthlinglets,

Yes indeedy, a fine time had by three crazy women  ;D.  And we managed that without the plonk!

Can't believe how hungry I was - we all were, in fact.  By the time we were fed (something like 9.30 - 9.45), we were just about off our heads with low blood sugar.  Not to mention plumb tuckered out from all that standing about being ignored by a man named Greg.  Back to catering school for you, young man.

Jocelyn, it was a true delight to meet you, m'dear.  I've done nothing but sing your praises to anyone who'll listen for the past week.  Can't tell you what an inspiration it is to spend time with someone who is truly living their dream  :).  Oh, and the kids loved their fridge magnets  ;). 

I'm thinking of you for an altogether different reason this week.  Do hope you're not having too many problems with the equine lockdown.  I know most of the areas between here and say, Camden, are quaranteened, but not sure about the Hawks.

HOW! to you, Mme S.  Yes please, cook for us next time  :P.  Love your house and your kitchen ...... not to mention your tucker! 

Brian, missed you chatting with us on the night.  Incidentally, Mme had me try to picture you swanning about at Panthers, and lo, I couldn't!  It's another planet, that place  :D.

Luke, when are you around next?  We haven't had our cake and coffee yet!

W

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: ffrn on August 29, 2007, 08:03:46 AM
It was wonderful meeting you too Wolf and Mme S!!!   The evening went so quickly and we must do it again!

I don't know about living my dream.  At the moment it's more like living my nightmare! LOL  I had a mare and foal about to board a flight in the States last week when everything shut down here.  My mare in the UK was due to fly out in the Sept shipment but that's on hold too.  The trouble is both mares are in foal and if they are too far in foal they can't fly.  If this lockdown continues for more than a few weeks, the mares will have to stay put until next year after they foal.  And I'm not the only one in this predicament.  This debacle is going to cost the horse industry millions.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on October 12, 2007, 06:32:11 AM
Hi to all you Aussielanders (as Aussie Bloke - Bernie (Hi) calls us)...

Don't get down this neck of the bush too often these days - just snuck in to check out whether you did in fact have your "get-together" and it looks like you pulled it off.
Good location, and by the sounds of it, a lovely event.

Thanks for your comments Wolf - you never know ... we may collide in there again for coffee'n'cake at some stage.

All the best folks

Luke
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on October 14, 2007, 04:50:15 AM

Just a big hello to everybody from Melbourne .
Hope you all are doing well and smiling..

All the best
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on October 14, 2007, 05:01:06 AM
Hello Isil! How are you? This thread has been a bit dead for a while so it's good to know people are still about. I'm still posting furiously every day. The day doesn't begin right until I've checked my PMs.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on October 14, 2007, 01:32:05 PM
I am always around, several times a day if I am home but I notice some of our Sydney regulars have not logged in for over a month. Was disappointed the Oxford meeting chose late June. I plan to fly to Europe in early April and stay 8 weeks but it gets too expensive travelling there in June. However I plan to meet Brokies in Helsinki and Stockholm. 
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Nax on November 24, 2007, 10:18:16 AM
Got to ask you guys from Oz what you think will be the impact on social rights with your new Prime minister and government.  How does the new guy stand on same sex partnerships or is that still up for debate?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: michaelflanagansf on November 24, 2007, 11:45:51 AM
Got to ask you guys from Oz what you think will be the impact on social rights with your new Prime minister and government.  How does the new guy stand on same sex partnerships or is that still up for debate?

You probably have to buy him a drink and ask nicely, Neil.  ;) :D

[But yes, I am interested too - and also, does this mean we will be seeing Australia leave Iraq too?]
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on November 24, 2007, 01:42:24 PM
Got to ask you guys from Oz what you think will be the impact on social rights with your new Prime minister and government.  How does the new guy stand on same sex partnerships or is that still up for debate?

You probably have to buy him a drink and ask nicely, Neil.  ;) :D

[But yes, I am interested too - and also, does this mean we will be seeing Australia leave Iraq too?]
Glad the wonderful news has reached the US. Miles better than the despicable Howard but it is still not Nirvana.

Yes we will be leaving Iraq (I think in 6 months) so I will again fly the Australian flag which I put in a bottom drawer the day we joined the invasion.
However there will be no same sex partnerships. One quote from the new leader
"The committed Christian added that the Marriage Act was the federal parliament's responsibility, and Labor's policy was that marriage should remain a union between a man and a woman."
and from a gay rights activist comparing policies.
 "Labor: most improved policy but still limited, some strong frontbenchers but weak leader who’s being worked on ferociously by the religious right. If Labor wins it’ll be an up hill battle to achieve just the reforms it has promised."

It has not stopped my plans to emigrate to NZ.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: michaelflanagansf on November 24, 2007, 02:01:07 PM
It has not stopped my plans to emigrate to NZ.

Glad to hear that Aust. will be leaving the coalition of the silly - and I understand the desire to become a kiwi.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: magicmountain on November 24, 2007, 02:01:24 PM
Got to ask you guys from Oz what you think will be the impact on social rights with your new Prime minister and government.  How does the new guy stand on same sex partnerships or is that still up for debate?

Several Liberal MPs (Howard's party) had campaigned strongly on gay rights and an inquiry on the issue had been underway. See:

 http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21311072-601,00.html

PS This result does not alter my plans to continue living in Australia.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: quithammerin on November 24, 2007, 03:23:43 PM
Heard the news this morning on CBC - the Canadian press has been presenting the two candidates as very similar "except participation in Iraq and Kyoto" (minor matters, those....), although for many here, the Howard defeat is seen as "the sun shining through the clouds".  Best of luck, mates, we'll be watching!

Oh, by the way, who or what is "Family First"?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on November 24, 2007, 05:10:00 PM
Oh, by the way, who or what is "Family First"?
Family First was established by the Assemblies of God. It is no friend of homosexuals and has usually given preference to the Liberals over Labor. It is against abortion, euthanasia and wants mandatory filtering of the internet to protect children???
It does have progressive views on climate change, industrial relations and asylum seekers and opposes the war in Iraq. As it has (in the past government) an influence in the upper house, it has moderated the Government's actions on those policies but of course would seek trade offs for its "pro-family policies"
A survey found the Australian Democrats had the best stance on Gay equality but it is almost a spent force. The Greens were next (and their national leader is Gay). Sadly the Labor party was only slightly better than the Liberals. As magicmountain has pointed out we had some friends in the Liberals but these people "true liberals" had very little sway with the past leadership (I hope I can avoid thinking about our departed prime minister ever again, not good for my indigestion).   It remains to be seen  what eventuates in the washup of the election now he has gone. An unfortunate development in recent Australian politics which we seem to have caught from the US is the influence of the religious right. The new Prime Minister is a committed Christian and while I am also , sadly I no longer trust anyone who pushes that fact.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on November 24, 2007, 06:02:45 PM
It looks as though I will now be putting in my application for citizenship, since I refused to do so while Howard was in power.

I'm wondering if the ALP might be more amenable to pressure over gay rights now they are in government. It may have been too touchy a subject (pathetic, I know) going into an election. No harm in lobbying from the word Go.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: quithammerin on November 25, 2007, 08:41:02 AM
[. The new Prime Minister is a committed Christian and while I am also , sadly I no longer trust anyone who pushes that fact.

Alas, I could say the same thing.

On a more hopeful note, with a very solid mandate, the Labour Party may not feel as obliged to cater to a "religious right"  concern; it's probably a very good time to exert the pressure over gay rights. 

(and I'll get back to my own hemisphere now)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: magicmountain on December 02, 2007, 02:53:54 AM
The new leader of the opposition in Australia Brendan Nelson has come out in favour of supporting equal legal rights for gay couples (superannuation and other entitlements etc) excluding marriage. Apparently his brother died of AIDS in 1991.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/nelson-backs-gay-reforms/2007/12/02/1196530469302.html
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on December 02, 2007, 06:00:35 PM
"It is the foundation of our society" ?? Doesn't that make all unmarried people feel good. Why do people trot out these trite expressions?
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: tfferg on December 02, 2007, 08:16:19 PM
Got to ask you guys from Oz what you think will be the impact on social rights with your new Prime minister and government.  How does the new guy stand on same sex partnerships or is that still up for debate?

Kevin Rudd is a conservative Christian who has said he is opposed to same-sex marriage. His party, the ALP, has a policy to change the laws so that same-sex couples have the same rights as de facto heterosexual couples. It is not clear that it is a high priority for them however and not clear whether the new government would legislate in its first year or even first term of office. And although they have the majority in the House of Representatives now, they will not be able to draw on a majority of members of the Senate until July 2008.

The new minister for climate change and water, Senator Penny Wong, is an out gay woman.

The new leader of the outgoing "Liberal" Party has announced that he is in favour of equality for same-sex couples, though I'm not sure that he would support same-sex marriage. He had a gay brother. The outgoing government had in fact been considering some sort of legislation after receiving the report of the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission which recommended changing all the various laws that benefited only heterosexually married or de facto couples.

Both parties are nervous about the swinging voters in the outer suburban electorates who determine who wins elections, working people and voters in the mortgage and Bible belts. Both parties think that people suffering mortgage stress because of rising interest rates are socially conservative. The Australian Christian Lobby is pressuring politicians to oppose reform. However, opinion polls show a majority of people are not opposed to same-sex marriage and many same-sex couples, many with children, live and seem to be accepted in the suburbs politicians think are opposed to same-sex equality and marriage.

Here is a link to the blog of Rodney Croome, one of the two leaders of the successful movement for same-sex law reform in the state of Tasmania - he has regular updates on what is happening nationally on gay law reform.

http://www.rodneycroome.id.au/weblog.php (http://www.rodneycroome.id.au/weblog.php)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: tfferg on December 02, 2007, 08:24:29 PM
Got to ask you guys from Oz what you think will be the impact on social rights with your new Prime minister and government.  How does the new guy stand on same sex partnerships or is that still up for debate?

You probably have to buy him a drink and ask nicely, Neil.  ;) :D

[But yes, I am interested too - and also, does this mean we will be seeing Australia leave Iraq too?]

Yes, Michael. The PM has announced that combat troops will leave Iraq by the middle of next year. Those who are there to provide security (I suppose for Australian diplomats) will remain.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: tfferg on December 02, 2007, 08:39:43 PM
At the risk of going a bit OT, the new PM has appointed 10 women to his front bench and the Deputy Prime Minister is a woman, Julia Gillard, with massive responsibilities for education, employment and industrial relations and social inclusion. She'll be running the country in a few days time when the PM goes to Bali for the international climate change conference.

The defeated Liberal party has also chosen a woman as its new deputy leader.

During the election campaign, the new PM quietly visited two homeless shelters on separate occasions and then mad a promise of $150 million for housing for the homeless, a small beginning,but hopefully a harbinger of more to come. One of his first acts was to give all the ALP members of parliament and senators homework! to go and visit a homeless shelter in their electorates and report back how many people are turned away each night. There are estimated to be some 200, 000 homeless people and some shelters report having to turn away 70%-90% of homeless people per night.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on December 22, 2007, 01:28:47 PM
A JOYOUS CHRISTMAS TO YOU ALL, AND A PEACEFUL NEW YEAR!!!

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on December 31, 2007, 06:56:37 PM
Happy New Year, everybody. Who would have thought, when 2006 dawned, what a time awaited us all.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on January 02, 2008, 10:29:39 PM
Ain't that the truth, Mini.  :)

Happy New Years to everyone, I hope that you all had a happy and joyous Christmas. I'm really excited because I'm heading back to San Fransisco to meet old Brokie friends and meet new ones also in March. I'm so looking forward to it!!!  ;D
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 04, 2008, 04:58:19 AM
San Francisco! I'm so envious. I really wanted to get there but ran out of time.
Title: R.I.P. Heath Ledger
Post by: photondancer on January 22, 2008, 04:16:08 PM
A dreadful day. I haven't been here for a long time, but this is the appropriate place to (reluctantly and grievingly) farewell one of our own.

Such a talented actor, he will always be Ennis to me.

Vale Heath. :'(
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on January 22, 2008, 05:06:22 PM
here I am with fingers on top of the keyboard..not quite knowing what to write...

phone's ringing..

my beloved sis in law...someone told her in a meeting...she asks if it's true..yes..we talk...

told her I imagine Heath on her deck at Bilgola Plateau...gorgeous spot...anyone can join us...Rosemarie will provide a sweet feast...imagined...shared feasting...and talk of life...as we do...

over and over and over I'm reminded by life stories that we have but one life..one screenplay..one role...and that role is played alongside all the other role players....all six and a half billion of us...some play eh!....that is the trick of living methinks...to remember we have but ONE role....the challenge of living alongside the billions....

hugs to his spirit
merci for the energy he shared with us on screen
peace to his foreverness
my glass raised to Heath...bon voyage dear one...'n here come the tears....
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: campfire on January 22, 2008, 05:13:13 PM
Dear Friends,


I am deeply saddened.. I know there is no any word to describe it.

Why did he need to die now at such a young age ?

Can not believe I am writing those words ..

I will miss you Heath , will miss your acting power , deep lovely voice.

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 22, 2008, 05:15:18 PM
I just don't know what to say. I had a long phone conversation with an old wise friend and now feel I can face the forum again, briefly.

Our boy, our darling boy.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on January 22, 2008, 05:19:10 PM
sweet campfire...why did he need to die...

the moment of death is simply that...the moment...some of us die at a day...some live more days...given that we (as in forum we) came to this spot because of the story...the tale...the film...we feel some deep connection...and when a deeply connected one dies...there is feeling...it's being human...to feel...and reflect if we are brave..

special hugs...as I imagine us all together....
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on January 22, 2008, 05:24:30 PM
As I posted on the Heath tribute area, kevin rudd has put out a statement on ABC but I canot find it yet online. Even Classic Fm announcer has said that appropriately they will be playing Faure's requiem after midday. Those of you returning from a long break might also see the very sad news about Painted Shoes (Jackie). Tears are close all day
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on January 22, 2008, 05:38:20 PM
From ABC site
Australian actress Nicole Kidman has expressed shock at Ledger's death.

"What a tragedy," Kidman said in a statement to celebrity news show Extra.

"My heart goes out to his family,"

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said in a statement that it was with great sadness he learnt of Ledger's death.

He has paid tribute to the actor's diverse and challenging roles, adding that Australia has lost one of its finest actors in the prime of his life.

Mr Rudd says his thoughts are with Ledger's family and close friends, especially his two-year-old daughter, Matilda Rose.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on January 22, 2008, 06:29:35 PM
every so often I'm reading here there and everywhere ..that he seemed to have everything... :o...as if looks, money, fame, awards, acting skills etc were it...we are soooooooooooooo much more than what's on show...the visible is but a wee fraction of us...of our BEing....

we, six and a half billion of us, are complex BEings...creating our story...

and this particular death ...draws us into reflection methinks...

bon voyage again ...dear spirit..

..so easy to return to the story...the screen...the rawness of his Ennis...to say 'yes' to the camera...to say 'yes, you can capture this of me.'.....this from an article in Rolling Stone a while back..

Ledger's magnificent performance is an acting miracle. He seems to tear it from his insides. Ledger doesn't just know how Ennis moves, speaks and listens; he knows how he breathes. To see him inhale the scent of a shirt hanging in Jack's closet is to take measure of the pain of love lost.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Luke-1 on January 23, 2008, 03:11:53 AM
Hi folks - its been a long absence from the forum and its a shame that this deeply sad occasion of Heath's death is the event that has drawn so many of us back.
This is an appropiate place to "go to" - like the early days after first viewing BBM... a refuge ... but this time to grieve! How utterly sad! Its almost like when a family comes back together when a loved-one dies... maybe its exactly that in this regard - a cyber version! Almost surreal, yet very real. This is so much harder than the emotional roller-coaster that brought us here to the forum in the first place because we all knew that was make-believe, even though it touched and reawakened parts of us that caused that initial heartache --- the death of Heath is very real and in some way harder for us who were affected by the tragedy of Ennis because Heath is our Ennis. Not only have we lost our "Jack", but we've also lost our "Ennis". This is as if our grief has passed from one dimension to another - from make believe or a dream into wakefulness or reality.

I was shocked at my reaction to the movie BBM .... I am even more shocked at my reaction to the death of Heath Ledger.

My only consolation, through reading the posts of the RIP HEATH thread, was a comment that said "...no soul leaves until it is ready..." - that struck a chord which I believe in.

A hug to you all

((((( o ))))
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 23, 2008, 03:14:48 AM
Luke, I have no words.  anymore. I dread the thought of sleeping tonight and waking up to the same reality.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on January 23, 2008, 01:59:02 PM
Darlings...watched film last night..the wolf one as well...8.30 we pressed the play buttons...

got to thinking of the whole thing...death...we, all six and half billion of us, have a take on life...our deepest spirit thing...methinks his spirit is full of care for all affected in any way...perhaps if those many many folk keep a lookout ...Heath's spirit might be felt strongly...in some way or other...methinks that's how it works anyway..

journey here
journey to beyond beyond
journey here and there
journey to beyond beyond

for as long as it takes methinks

with love
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on January 23, 2008, 02:43:02 PM
Just cross posting what I put on the Farewell to Heath board. In SMH today
You might like to read the reaction of Adam Sutton, Heath's friend and real life gay cowboy. he was visiting with Olivia Newton-John in Los Angeles when he heard the news.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/people/cowboy-will-carry-on-legacy/2008/01/23/1201024994404.html (http://www.smh.com.au/news/people/cowboy-will-carry-on-legacy/2008/01/23/1201024994404.html)
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on January 23, 2008, 03:24:30 PM
Just had to touch base in our Aussie thread - I am just still in incredulous disbelief, feel like the world has been turned upside down and there's such a hole in my heart now...still cannot believe it is real... :'( :'(
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on January 23, 2008, 03:40:19 PM
each of the three daily papers here in Sydney has Heath on the front page - everywhere I looked this morning, there was his beautiful face.

This is just devastating.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on January 23, 2008, 04:38:34 PM
Yesterday I sent 3 letters to the Sydney Morning Herald..all about Heath...this was published...

He had so much, they say. Good looks, awards, great acting skills, a place in New York etc. As if that's an example of all you need to be happy.

Whatever the reason for Heath Ledger's death, I'm reminded of what the artist James Gleeson said of life: "I've never accepted the external appearance of things as the whole truth. The world is much more elaborate than the nerves of our eye can tell us."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

we scarcely know ourselves let alone anyone else....
continuing to imagine his spirit on its journey to beyond...beyond...
bbm last night...the power the energy ...the sheer wonderment of that portrayal....takes my breath away..
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 23, 2008, 05:37:56 PM
This is a link to one of Dave's posts on the Matilda thread:
http://www.davecullen.com/forum/index.php?topic=28490.msg1153630#msg1153630

He was ours, as well as being everyone's. He loved Australia deeply. There's a line right at the end of Australian Son by Max Brown. It's the best - in many ways - of the Ned Kelly biographies.

" ... Ned too was at peace. But throughout the broad  land his spirit had never been more awake."

Heath was our Ned as well as our Ennis. His spirit will always be here.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: MellorSJ2 on January 23, 2008, 06:15:20 PM
Congratulations on your letter, Joan.

Wish you didn't have to write it.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 23, 2008, 06:20:40 PM
Welcome back, Stephen.  We all need friends at this time.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on January 23, 2008, 11:29:12 PM
"Working with Heath was one of the purest joys of my life. He brought to the role of Ennis more than any of us could have imagined - a thirst for life, for love, and for truth, and a vulnerability that made everyone who knew him love him. His death is heartbreaking."

a comment from Ang Lee

there is so much energy around...methinks Heath is keeping an eye on things...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on January 25, 2008, 01:28:41 AM
A little bit of good news in this sad week
Jonathon Welch of Choir of Hard Knocks fame was announced tonight as Australia's Local Hero 2008.
Jonathon is an open gay man, a tenor singer and has gained national attention by creating a choir called the Choir of Hard Knocks made up of homeless people.
In my blog last August I transcribed his comments on a television program.

He came out to his family at the age of 18. He related:
'I can remember it was a Christmas Day, and I said, "I think I'm gay." And my sister said, "I've known that for years." And I went, "Oh. Well, why didn't you tell me," you know? But my family has been wonderful, you know. They've just loved me and accepted me for who I am. I'm very loved. Very fortunate.'

The Local Hero Award was introduced into the Australian of the Year Awards in 2003. It acknowledges extraordinary contributions made by Australians in their local community.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 25, 2008, 06:21:27 AM
I didn't know he was gay. He probably didn't know I was straight so I guess it evens out. I'm so glad he was recognised. That was a wonderful project.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on January 25, 2008, 02:18:08 PM
For all of our friends down there, even though it is a time of sadness for us all,

I wish you all a Happy Australia Day! May you enjoy your holiday weekend.

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Melby on January 25, 2008, 02:25:56 PM
Love to all Down Under.
Thank you for sharing your Heath w/ us.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on January 25, 2008, 02:30:54 PM
Thank you Fritz and Melby for the well wishing.

I don't watch television much anymore but it's been brought to my attention by friends that tonight there is a tribute to Heath at 7.30 pm. I don't even know what channel but I wanted to let any other Aussies know about it. I think they are putting on a movie that he was in after- again, not even sure what this is.

I'll be watching the tribute - and no doubt be an utter mess after but I feel I owe it to his memory.

Thinking of you all at this time. He was a true Aussie despite his fame and thus this weekend is painfully ironic, to me right now.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: michaelflanagansf on January 25, 2008, 02:35:12 PM
Congratulations on your letter, Joan.

Wish you didn't have to write it.

Good to see you here again - though I wish desperately it were under different circumstances.

I'm here to remember Australia Day - Heath dearly loved Australia.

 :-* :'(

mf
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 25, 2008, 06:52:29 PM
Oh yes, Australia Day. I had forgotten. And our favourite Australian Son at the forefront of all our minds.

I'll check that tribute, Lolita, although I don't know that I'll cope.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on January 25, 2008, 06:57:09 PM
I put this on the Heath page but some of you may not be keeping up
(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g218/brianr44/thoseeyes.jpg)
perhaps more fitting on our G'Day page
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on January 25, 2008, 07:26:06 PM
thanks Brian..

'n the piece itself..

http://www.smh.com.au/news/heath-ledger/softly-spoken-actor-promised-so-much/2008/01/25/1201157663318.html

I love this bit:

"Weeks before production of Candy began, I was diagnosed with prostate cancer and the film was delayed for eight weeks to allow for surgery and recovery. Heath reacted immediately. He filled my house with roses."

'nuff said eh..

so many layers to this soul...

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on January 25, 2008, 08:12:34 PM
I don't watch television much anymore but it's been brought to my attention by friends that tonight there is a tribute to Heath at 7.30 pm. I don't even know what channel but I wanted to let any other Aussies know about it. I think they are putting on a movie that he was in after- again, not even sure what this is.

I'll be watching the tribute - and no doubt be an utter mess after but I feel I owe it to his memory.

Thinking of you all at this time. He was a true Aussie despite his fame and thus this weekend is painfully ironic, to me right now.

Lola,

I couldn't see anything about a tribute program, but Channel 10 is advertising A Knight's Tale at 7.30 followed by the Patriot in one online tv guide. That may be it ....

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: kazinoz on January 25, 2008, 08:18:18 PM
and Brian,

I forgot to thank you for the links you've been posting. I don't normally get the Saturday Herald and I would have missed that lovely article from Neil Armfield if you hadn't pointed it out.

I'd normally be wishing people a Happy Australia Day right now, but I don't think I can today.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on January 26, 2008, 01:58:59 PM
It was Channel 10. They began with about 5 minutes about Heath, nothing new but emphasising that he began his career in a Channel 10 soap. I watched the first 15 minutes of "A Knight's Tale' but not my sort of a movie, would have preferred to see "The Patriot" which followed but too late for me. I am afraid I doze off during adverts when movies run late.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on January 26, 2008, 07:42:36 PM
I flicked on to see what was happening but didn't watch.  I've got two copies of AKT anyway and I don't want to watch anything right now.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on January 26, 2008, 08:31:50 PM
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/movietime/

the 24 January programe...radio...interview with Heath...2006 ..speaking of creating the Ennis he played...oh the voice...listen to his deep breaths...

hugs all...

am imagining us sitting together...sipping something...and remembering...
Title: Re: G'day from Brisbane...
Post by: BBM-Intern on January 28, 2008, 06:02:15 AM
Hi there all you lovely Aussie Brokies,

So sad reading all the tributes, it has been a difficult week for many of us.

Brianr, thanks for your comments on Jonathon Welch; I met him in at "Out and Loud" in Melbourne.  He runs fantastic rehearsals and his enthusiasm and genuine love for his art is very inspiring.

Actually it was Brokeback that was one of the catalysts for me to "come out of the closet" more and join the Brisbane Lesbian and Gay Pride Choir.  In fact, it was Brokeback all the way in 2006 for me - and the choir embraced the movie so wholeheartedly too.  Pride Fair Day with its Brokeback raffle, me dressed as Jack Twist (!?), then "A Love That Will Never Grow Old" was one of the favourites of the choir, which we took to Melbourne in 2007.  And we even "dared" sing it in Stanthorpe in Oct 07 and announced that the song was for "all those gay cowboys out there".

In his own way, Heath's portrayal of Ennis made me resolve not to hide my love in the closet like those damn shirts, I didn't want to get to the end of my life to say "... I swear...".  Some would say perhaps it was Twist that was the optimist, but you need both sides of the yin-yang to get the complete picture.

Much love to all, how I wish we all were chatting more under happier circumstances, but I guess "if we can't fix it, we gotta stand it"...
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Wolf2 on January 31, 2008, 08:39:12 PM
Hello, Gang.

Wanted to say a bit about the seemingly never-ending shock of Heath's passing.  Had long chatty waffle-filled morning tea with Mme S this morning.  Much talk of H and the whys and wherefores. 
More theory, more speculation.  More everything.  Will take a long time.

Meanwhile, heartfelt greetings to all.  Feels like eons since I was last here (when I was "wolf", rather than the slightly less grand "wolf2"). 

Stephen, Luke and Brian - special cyber hugs to yooz.

w
Title: Re: G'day! BBM screening in Brissie 31-Jan till 6-Feb!!!
Post by: BBM-Intern on February 01, 2008, 06:10:25 AM
Hello especially to Brisbane BBM brokies,

The Blue Room Cinema is screening BBM again 31-Jan till 6-Feb.  Damn, I only found out from my "husband" today, well, he knows I'll be off in a shot to see it.  He knows how dejected I've been the past week or so...

Screening times are at 1000 and 1530 see http://users.tpg.com.au/cinebar/Main-Film-BrokebackMountain.htm

The cinema is more of a boutique cinema, the venue is quite small so you can sit up close and it's a great experience.

I'm intending to be there on Sunday, 3-Feb for the 1530 screening, perhaps it'll be my way of saying a (tearful) goodbye to darling Heath.

Anyone else coming?  Get dressed up - a whole posse of BBM characters?   Come on now, time to come out of the lurking shadows - lets honour Heath's passing with making the effort to see this one more time.

Love to all,
L
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on February 01, 2008, 01:27:00 PM
How wonderful for you BBM-Intern.  Wish I was a bit closer to Brisbane. Am sure you will have a memorable afternoon.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on February 01, 2008, 03:48:28 PM
I'd love to see it again on a decent big screen, but not now. And not with other people. I'm enough of a basket case when I watch it anyway.

Could I ask anyone who would like to contribute to the Messages For Matilda project to think about what they'd like to say? There are guidelines on the thread. The idea is to produce a one-off book for Matilda as she gets older, just recording what her daddy has meant to us. We'd like as much Australian input as possible. It will be produced in impeccable taste, I assure you all, and only carried through if and when we get a clear understanding from Michelle or her nearest and dearest that it would be acceptable.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: fritzkep on February 01, 2008, 03:51:25 PM
Marian, I was wondering, is that in fact Heath in your avatar? It looks so unlike other pictures of him. From which movie or time?

Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on February 01, 2008, 03:55:18 PM
Fritz, it's from "The Four Feathers". I changed it a day before he died because it was so beautiful. Now it seems altogether too appropriate.
 
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p137/wildcolumbine/avatars/avatarheath1.jpg)
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Post by: madameshawshank on February 01, 2008, 06:20:11 PM
that photo has a particular energy...can sense it through the screen...

hugs dear pals..
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Post by: campfire on February 04, 2008, 04:20:43 AM


It is so comforting knowing that there is this great  forum that I can come back ..

Hugs to you  all..

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Post by: Ministering angel on February 04, 2008, 05:36:12 AM
Yes, it's good to have somewhere to come flying back to when we need it.
Title: Re: G'day! Another BBM viewing
Post by: BBM-Intern on February 04, 2008, 06:58:39 AM
Hi there, just thought I'd let you know I was lucky enough to catch another viewing on Sunday.  It wasn't crowded, the viewers were very respectful and were there because they chose to be there.  A few friends of dorothy in the audience, I suspect.  The usual titters at the reunion scene, gasps at the bashing, then the quiet sobs at the discovery of the two shirts and "I swear".  For me, I was quite transfixed by the whole thing, an equal mixture of rapturous joy at the depth of love, and how Ennis finds acceptance in Jack, and despair and sorrow at the two not seeing eye to eye with their relationship.

[Just my two cents' observation: from a somewhat buddhist perspective, it's not that unusual: unless one's karma is perfect, there's areas of one's life that go well, and others that have a debt to be repaid.  I'm sure those who study this area more or have acquired wisdom will be able to paint a better observation.  Although it made me really wonder, what were their past lives possibly like - "Husband and [husband] have been connected in the past, Whether their connections were good or bad.  Those connections never fail to meet."  I took the liberty of changing the text to "husband" in this case.]

For me, I was grateful to see it all again, it never fails to move me.  Each time, it's like another layer opens up and you discover something else.  Personally, I think this happens to those who are blessed enough to being open to receive the message from the universe - being ready to understand the lesson for that moment.

Much love to all, so good to see you Marian and Isil here on the board - was thinking of you yesterday.
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Post by: Ministering angel on February 04, 2008, 07:05:20 AM
Hi Lem! Do you know, I don't think I ever heard anyone titter at the reunion scene. I must have gone when there were totally respectful audiences.
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Post by: CANSTANDIT on February 04, 2008, 07:42:45 AM
I wanted to just stop here and express condolences to my Aussie comrades over the loss of a great native son....
We were all blessed you gave us Heath; It is fortunate that we knew on this forum, how blessed we actually were.

And now he's coming back to you forever. I hope you find comfort in that.
 :-*
 
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Post by: Ministering angel on February 04, 2008, 07:44:40 AM
Jo, we should a never let him out of our sights.
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Post by: lolita on February 04, 2008, 01:22:29 PM
Yeah, this forum has been so wonderful when I needed it most, always.

BBM Intern - I don't check this thread regularly - only just saw your post about the viewing - I don't know if I would have been able to see it though - I'm going to see the movie in March in SF and I have a feeling it's going to be really emotional...

Canstandit - your post just brought tears to my eyes. How absolutely beautiful.
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Post by: Ministering angel on February 07, 2008, 05:22:07 PM
Does anyone have a halfway decent address for the Ledger families in Perth? Any suggestion will be gratefully received.  The Denver Memorial Service is to be recorded and copies sent. Also, there's one or two other forum messages that people want to send. I don't know what good it will all do but the family seems comforted a little by the overwhelming response to Heath's death.

FWIW I had a letter published in the Green Guide yesterday (that's the Age's TV & Radio supplement.) Text below.

Peter J. McNamara queried where our priorities were, re. the
newsworthiness of Heath Ledger v. the Queensland floods. If he had been
one of the many thousands of people whose lives have been profoundly
changed for the better through the film "Brokeback Mountain", and
Heath's remarkably moving portrayal of Ennis del Mar, he would not need
to ask. This film and Heath's performance were catalysts for social
change, the ramifications of which will be felt for years to come. Heath
Ledger possessed a rare talent to understand his fellow humans and to
portray them in a loving and respectful manner. His death was indeed
newsworthy.


I was mildly amused that they "corrected" del Mar to Del Mar in the paper.
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Post by: Wolf2 on February 07, 2008, 06:32:54 PM
Lem, as a lapsed buddhist, I was moved by your thoughts regarding past lives.  had me thinking through my friends and family to identify which were ''old'' and which were "new".  I've done this before of course, but it's been a long, long time since.  anyhoo, results were surprising.  a couple of people very close to me proved new, and a couple who've only been in my orbit (and then, the periphery) proved old. 

all this navel gazing prompted a bout of worrying about Jake.  how is he coping with Heath's death?  surely it's impacted him on many levels - above and beyond those intrinsic to a hollywood friendship. 

cheers to all.  wish I was in Denver.

w
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Post by: madameshawshank on February 07, 2008, 11:09:56 PM
ma dear one...energy can be sent to Jake...easy as pie...

you determine the energy...

the cosmos loves this stuff...

hugs
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Post by: CANSTANDIT on February 11, 2008, 11:17:48 PM
Jo, we should a never let him out of our sights.
I am guessing his family is having those thoughts every minute of everyday....I hate that feeling of somehow having done something remiss simply by being a citizen in the country where he died. It is a weird feeling....and I understand exactly what you mean, Marian.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: CANSTANDIT on February 16, 2008, 09:19:18 PM
Anyone heard from Marian since the 14th?
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Post by: kazinoz on February 17, 2008, 12:24:35 PM
CSI,

Marian said a few days ago that she was going away for the weekend, and would have no forum access for 48 hours. It's Monday morning here now, so I'm sure she'll be back very soon!
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Post by: CANSTANDIT on February 17, 2008, 12:27:18 PM
CSI,

Marian said a few days ago that she was going away for the weekend, and would have no forum access for 48 hours. It's Monday morning here now, so I'm sure she'll be back very soon!

Thank you, friend...I was getting a little worried.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on February 19, 2008, 02:52:35 PM
care is precious...
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Post by: Ministering angel on February 19, 2008, 03:12:24 PM
Four weeks has passed, there's a great big huntsman just above my head, the sky is crying once again ... as the days pass and I hear more of what Heath had planned and was already doing, I feel the loss of his creative talent and potential even more keenly. My sense of loss for the wonderful soul that he was remains the same - it couldn't get more intense than it always was.
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Post by: lolita on February 25, 2008, 02:31:31 AM
((((MARION)))))))

Does anyone know what this 'World Exclusive' on Heath tomorrow night on A Current Affair is supposed to be about? I mean..what the????
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Post by: Ministering angel on February 25, 2008, 02:43:44 AM
I have no idea. I bet it's crap. I hadn't even heard about it. But then I don't pay any attention to Ch 9. Maybe I'll take a quick peep. I'll probably regret it.
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Post by: kazinoz on February 25, 2008, 04:09:48 PM
I saw the promo during the Oscars last night - it's something to do with the Nick Drake film clip that Heath made.
Cue portentous voice-over blathering about a "deadly obsession" "shocking" video ...and " ...does this change everything?" so I assume they will be trying to make out that this is proof that he was suicidal or some such crap... >:(

I will probably regret it too, but I'll watch it anyway, just to see him. :-\
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Post by: Ministering angel on February 25, 2008, 06:34:36 PM
Yes, I caught the promo during the Oscars (not that I watched much of them but I did see the In Memoriam tape - instant sobbing) and I figured it would be about the Nick Drake thing. Bunch of arseholes, pardon my French.
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Post by: kazinoz on February 25, 2008, 08:00:33 PM
I watched about an hour of the Oscars - sometimes I just like to torture myself.  :-\

I knew it was a bad idea when they started going through all the past Best Picture winners (&*$% Crash) but I had to stick around to see the In Memoriam segment.

Then I cried myself to sleep.   :'(
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Post by: Ministering angel on February 25, 2008, 10:35:58 PM
I didn't cry myself to sleep but I went to bed and had a long miserable howl for a while, then thought slightly better thoughts before I dozed off. Geez, this is so hard.
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Post by: lolita on February 26, 2008, 02:01:04 AM
I didn't see it. I stopped watching the Oscars after Crash...

Well - ACA. I wish they hadn't shown him being taken from the NY apartment again, I was totally not expecting that and it just hit me like a sucker punch.

I feel physically sick now. Ugh.
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Post by: Ministering angel on February 26, 2008, 03:25:08 AM
I put on my angry. crusading face to watch it, telling my husband I had to do it to defend Heath's honour, or some such rubbish. Yes, the bodybag shot - can't leave that out. It was bittersweet to see him in the clip and to think about him being actor, director and cameraman, as they pointed out. Just a multi-talented genius honouring someone else. But that's not how it was presented. Channel 9, I fart in your general direction, to quote Monty Python.
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Post by: brian on February 26, 2008, 01:03:20 PM
Sorry I was quite relieved. ok they could have left out the bodybag but they did acknowledge his great acting talent and the  rest was a very good warning to people suffering mental problems to get help even with an add for Beyond Blue at the end. They did say no-one could tell the real cause but extreme insomnia can be a symptom of depression. They apparently left out the worst parts of the film which Heath directed and acted.
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Post by: kazinoz on February 26, 2008, 02:43:37 PM
They apparently left out the worst parts of the film which Heath directed and acted.

yes, how considerate of them. Call me cynical, but isn’t that just Channel 9 pretending to be concerned for our fragile sensibilities while still managing to go for the sensationalist angle? Oooh, some of it is too disturbing and shocking for us to even show you….. 

It’s no secret how the film ends. It would upset me to see it, but according to net articles I’ve read, the clip is “gorgeous” and “extremely moving”. So why did ACA have to make it out to be something awful?

And, it’s a video clip – an artistic creation made as a tribute to another artist he admired. It wasn’t a home movie.

Of course depression is a serious issue, and if the story prompts someone to seek help, then that’s a positive thing, but I’m afraid I doubt their motives. Somehow they got hold of the video, and this was a convenient excuse to show it, with a spot of speculation about a dead celebrity thrown in for good measure (and extra ratings).

Maybe I’d be more convinced of their sincerity if they’d omitted the body-bag footage….
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Post by: Ministering angel on February 26, 2008, 04:50:35 PM
Karen, I agree with all that. If they wanted a hook to hang a segment about depression on, they could have left out most of the Heath-related stuff. And if that was what they were trying to do, then why did the promos not emphasise that point? If you wanted info on depression you wouldn't have automatically turned on ACA after seeing the promo, which was all about Heath and how shocked we'd all be about him. Sensational rubbish wrapped in a thin veneer of "concern".
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Post by: Ministering angel on February 26, 2008, 04:53:40 PM
And while I'm thinking about it, the portrait by Vince whatnot is another example of people seeing what they want to see. He looks pretty down in it yet the artist knew Heath was just giving another performance when he sat.

But then, maybe it was really a cry for help ............ :o
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: CANSTANDIT on March 17, 2008, 11:03:13 PM
hello, friends....

I was just wondering if anyone had heard of anyone else who had managed to make it to Heath's resting place yet, in Perth.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: madameshawshank on May 13, 2008, 02:49:23 AM
dropping in to say a hello plus to all....
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Post by: Ministering angel on May 13, 2008, 05:48:54 AM
I certainly won't pass up the opportunity to say hello back to you, MadameS. And to all the other G'Dayers out there. I see a few of us continue to light candles for Heath over on

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=heath

It's a soothing thing to do. I find that I get some solace out of thinking up things to say. I carry on a sort of slow, one-sided conversation with Heath.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on May 14, 2008, 03:51:20 AM
Hey Madame S, cupcake queen.  :)

Yes, Marian, I'm still lighting candles. Hope that all the other Aussie Brokies are doing well.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: brian on May 15, 2008, 08:40:03 AM
G'Day from Vilnius, Lithuania.
I have already had dinner with Tony (Tfferg) and Somphong in Bangkok and delicious coffee and cake with the equally delicious Martina (Desertrat) in Vienna. Will be spending the day with Marlene (Tammy) in Stockholm next Friday and apparently dinner with a number of other Brokies who live in Sweden and then will be staying with Jari (Boris) in Helsinki and apparently meeting Wayne (Zudos) who will also be there. So my 9 weeks in Europe is having quite a Brokie flavour.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: freetraveller on May 15, 2008, 12:59:55 PM
Wow Brian! That's an impressive tour you have lined-up!
Enjoy Europe and say hello to Tammy from me when you see her!!!
Cheers
Paola
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Post by: brian on May 15, 2008, 09:39:46 PM
Thanks Paola
I always enjoy Europe, just wish there was some other way than that 22 hour flight to get here. The reason I stay so long and now at the half way point I would just like to put my feet up and relax for one day, but more things to see and more things to do. The laptop has certainly helped any feelings of loneliness, I am much happier when I have wifi in my hotel room
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Post by: freetraveller on May 16, 2008, 02:10:10 AM
Oh yes, Brian, I know what you mean.
When I flew to Australia from London last year, I did a 3-night stop over in Hong Kong (and Singapore on the way back to England), 'cause I didn't think I could stand such a long flight almost in one go, also worrying about the DVT syndrome and so on...
But I was glad I got to see two very interesting cities that way.
Will you be coming to Oxford in June?
I'll be there Sat and Sun.
All the best
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Post by: brian on May 16, 2008, 07:33:00 AM
I stop over in Bangkok for a good night's rest each way, makes it just a little bit easier. I had hopes of attending Oxford if either of the earlier dates had been chosen but cannot stay in Europe for the whole of June so am having a series of mini-meetings instead :).
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: lolita on May 18, 2008, 05:00:50 AM
Wow Brian, fantastic to see an Aussie Brokie over Europe/England way! What are your plans, friend? Are you going to the Oxford Bash? I would adore to have gone but alas, cannot afford it after the San Francisco Slash Bash in March.

I know that you're going to have the most wonderful time. :)
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Post by: BayCityJohn on May 18, 2008, 09:42:50 PM
Whitehorse Film Society presents Brokeback Mountain   

Saturday, 28 June 2008
7:30 PM

A raw, powerful story of two young men, a Wyoming ranch hand and a rodeo cowboy, who meet in the summer of 1963 shepherding in the harsh, high grasslands of contemporary Wyoming and form an unorthodox yet life-long bond-by turns ecstatic, bitter and conflicted.

LOCATION: Waratah Room, Whitehorse Centre, 397 Whitehorse Road, Nunawading

CONTACT NAME: Laurie Maher or Jenny Powell  PHONE: 9800 1825 or 9803 3003

EMAIL: wolmaher@hotmail.com

WEB: home.vicnet.net.au/~whfs (http://home.vicnet.net.au/~whfs)

The Whitehorse Film Society (WHFS) aims to encourage an interest in films as an entertainment, educational and information medium. We screen a wide variety of quality films. These features include primarily recent commercial releases, "art house", foreign films and other good quality films.

Whitehorse Film Society has been operating since 1958. Unless notified in the newsletter, all screenings will be held at the Waratah Room, Whitehorse Centre, 397 Whitehorse Road, Nunawading (opposite Harvey Norman) and will begin at 7.45 p.m on the first and third Saturday of the month.

After the movie screening, there is an opportunity to discuss the films with others and to express your thoughts and comments. Membership of the Whitehorse Film Society also gives you the opportunity to borrow the DVDs screened at no extra cost. All this is available with a yearly fee of $50 ($45 concession). There is a great choice of films on offer from a variety of countries. Members also have a say in which movies they wish to watch the following year.

Want to "Come and try it" for FREE?
Just send an email to wolmaher@hotmail.com with your full name, address and phone number, and say which screening you would like to try.
(Limit one per person per year)


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Post by: Ministering angel on May 18, 2008, 10:06:47 PM
John, that's fabulous! Nunawading (pron. nun - a - wodding) is on my side of Melbourne and I think I might just go. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

Not sure how I'll cope bawling my eyes out in a roomful of strangers but I'll try. Who knows, maybe I won't be alone in my misery.

I'll have to see if Campfire is available to come.
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Post by: BayCityJohn on May 18, 2008, 10:30:44 PM
John, that's fabulous! Nunawading (pron. nun - a - wodding) is on my side of Melbourne and I think I might just go. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

Not sure how I'll cope bawling my eyes out in a roomful of strangers but I'll try. Who knows, maybe I won't be alone in my misery.

I'll have to see if Campfire is available to come.

You haven't done that yet??
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Post by: BayCityJohn on May 18, 2008, 10:34:30 PM
If anyone wants to attend that screening, make sure you send an email to:  wolmaher@hotmail.com with your full name, address and phone number, and say which screening you would like to try.
Title: Re: G'day!
Post by: Ministering angel on May 19, 2008, 04:30:25 AM