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Re: Is society really as accepting as it claims?
« Reply #3180 on: July 23, 2020, 02:19:24 AM »
^^^^ That is +++ news.  The Hallmark channel will get blowback.  I hope they stand their ground.  I kept this posting here b/c "Killjoys" is a awesome example of a very successful show that had a large cast of main and supporting characters - some of which are clearly LBGTQ+.  They were presented as real people with complex lives, struggles, needs, desires and some really solid story lines interwoven with the main 3.  Accepting, very accepting.   

WRT Luke Macfarlane - *@(*@(@ I must have been asleep since 2008. Watched and enjoyed the Sci-Fi drama "Killjoys" a lot.  It had a some violence but was moderated - so still not for everyone.  The actors playing the 2 brothers - Macfarlane and Aaaron Ashmore - were well chosen along with the 3rd vixen who kept things steamy to say the least was Hannah John-Karmen.  All three played well with each other, and had an onscreen presence, with trust and banter to seal the story. Didn't hurt they wore well fitted costumes and sometimes we got less  ;)  - hmmmm  and were well in very good shape - ;D   The show was LBGTQ friendly with several supporting characters with threads clearly in LBGTQ+ friendly.

 I had no clue about Macfarlane.   WOW:o   8)   :-X

https://justrichest.com/luke-macfarlane-bio-gay-relationship-wentworth-miller/

Killjoys
Rotten clocks in very high at  95% / 89%  --> https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/killjoys

https://www.syfy.com/killjoys
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3952222/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killjoys_%28TV_series%29
https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/07/29/killjoys-season-5-syfy-cyberpunk-2077

Sadly, the series is complete but if you are bored this summer, it's worth a try if you like sci-fi. I think I saw it streaming on Amazon and maybe Sci-Fi.  So don't read the finale below as it would spoil the ending.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/09/21/killjoys-series-finale-ending-explained-by-creator-michelle-lovretta

A clip from above reflecting what I said about the 3 mains.  BTW, John-Kamen's character is presented as a bad-ass, powerful, female "Killjoy" who kicks ass with the best of them..  quite refreshing.   (bolding below is mine...)

GN: Completely. Do you want to talk a little bit about Hannah John-Kamen, as well as the chemistry of her, Luke Macfarlane and Aaron Ashmore? Because I just feel like there's so much of the show that doesn't work without all of that.

ML: It’s been this amazing synergy between an amazing casting agent plus luck and timing. We found Hannah when she was still quite young, and also, I really pay attention to casting. This is going to sound dorky, but I have a very clear picture of the energy of a particular character, and energy is something that you pick up from people. But the thing that you can't predict is personalities. And so you can get an actress and actors that absolutely embody these characters, but that doesn't mean they're going to actually like each other.

The unvarnished truth is those three kind of fell in love within that first season. They became really good friends and they loved coming to work. And that's not the case on every show. It is really not the case [laughs]. And it makes for a such a shift on screen, which factors back into the crew and the energy on set. That is really just up to the luck of finding those three people and how well they fit each other.

It was really wonderful that they ended up being so fabulous to work with and [liked] working with each other. Like, Luke is so damn funny. And we didn't know that at first. But he just kept nailing the random occasional [comic] line we gave him. That was such a blessing, because we thought, "Oh, here's a new insight into what makes D’avin so lovable." He's self-aware. He's just the tiniest bit goofy, especially for a big, handsome man. He's really loving, and kind of soft. He's a bit vulnerable in ways that Dutch can see — in a good way. That’s my favorite part about writing television versus writing a movie or writing a novel — you have time to extract from these actors all these things that they can do."

Peace.  Stay safe, stay alive.  Later.
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Re: Is society really as accepting as it claims?
« Reply #3181 on: July 23, 2020, 05:43:20 AM »
^^^^^ Brothers & Sisters on ABC (2006-2011) is well worth the watch as well, Vincent, if you haven't already seen it. I came to it late only seeing the last 2 seasons. I've been wanting to binge watch it, just haven't had the time yet. Luke played Scotty, the love interest of one of the brothers. It was ahead of it's time and I thought was a well done series. Watch if you haven't already seen it.
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Re: Is society really as accepting as it claims?
« Reply #3182 on: July 23, 2020, 10:25:44 AM »
While I was eating breakfast this morning, I saw an animated TV commercial (I've already forgotten what for  :( ) that included the Gay Pride flag with its additional black and brown stripes. If I see it again, I'll try to make a note and update.

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Re: Is society really as accepting as it claims?
« Reply #3183 on: July 23, 2020, 01:27:45 PM »

Not surprised about that news, Hallmark's primary audience is female (they say that) and women are an audience for gay romance movies. (The BBM producers said that.) So there will probably be more of the G and less of the LBT. I'm a bit skeptical of any of these being good, but, hey, I'm all for it!

Chuck and Linda will let us know!  ;D

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Re: Is society really as accepting as it claims?
« Reply #3184 on: July 23, 2020, 01:40:22 PM »
Chuck and Linda will let us know!  ;D

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Yeah, you'll know I'll watch it!   We can include Nancy too!

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Re: Is society really as accepting as it claims?
« Reply #3185 on: July 23, 2020, 08:03:33 PM »
You betcha Lyle!! Anything to escape reality at this point!
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Re: Is society really as accepting as it claims?
« Reply #3186 on: July 27, 2020, 11:37:35 AM »
While I was eating breakfast this morning, I saw an animated TV commercial (I've already forgotten what for  :( ) that included the Gay Pride flag with its additional black and brown stripes. If I see it again, I'll try to make a note and update.

Jeff, is this the one you saw?  I just saw it today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl8n76OhdaY

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Re: Is society really as accepting as it claims?
« Reply #3187 on: August 11, 2020, 11:09:43 AM »
IDK if I like this "explanation" or not... it's more a summary.  Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQVSmnMA5SM

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Re: Is society really as accepting as it claims?
« Reply #3188 on: August 11, 2020, 11:43:41 AM »

It's kinda snarky.

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Re: Is society really as accepting as it claims?
« Reply #3189 on: August 11, 2020, 11:44:07 AM »
Is, rather. Is snarky.

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Re: Is society really as accepting as it claims?
« Reply #3190 on: August 11, 2020, 12:13:27 PM »
He’s too busy trying to be witty - very pleased with himself. And not conveying the spirit of the film at all.

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Re: Is society really as accepting as it claims?
« Reply #3191 on: August 11, 2020, 02:06:13 PM »
Yeah, he's a real tool, and not the least bit funny or witty. Kind of a waste of airtime. I agree, more of a summary of the movie and still not that good. Grade F.
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Re: Is society really as accepting as it claims?
« Reply #3192 on: August 11, 2020, 03:04:28 PM »
^^^ TY, I really could not decide.. I think my brain has gone numb.

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Re: Is society really as accepting as it claims?
« Reply #3193 on: August 29, 2020, 04:45:19 PM »
He’s too busy trying to be witty - very pleased with himself. And not conveying the spirit of the film at all.

agreed

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Re: Is society really as accepting as it claims?
« Reply #3194 on: September 12, 2020, 03:47:57 PM »
Guillaume Cizeron: Why It Was Imperative for Me to Come Out Publicly

BY GUILLAUME CIZERON - AUGUST 18 2020


French ice dancer Guillaume Cizeron is a tour de force. Throughout his career, he’s racked up an Olympic medal alongside partner Gabriella Papadakis and is a world champion four times over. This only scratches the surface of the accolades the skater, who has broken multiple world records, has earned. Earlier this year, Cizeron opened up about his personal life.

While he shies away from the term “coming out,” the athlete posted a photo of himself and his boyfriend on Instagram for International Day Against Homophobia, Transphobia, and Biphobia. Though he had already spoken about his sexuality to friends, this was the first time he had spoken publicly about his intimate life. Since then, he’s continued to do so. Here, in his own words, the resident of Canada writes about bullying and the lasting impact it can have on queer people.

“Are you a boy or a girl?”

This was the question I was asked by classmates when I was young. While the question was intended to mock me, deep down it led me to question myself about my own gender identity at a young age. I remember one day coming home from school and putting the question to my parents: “Mom, am I a boy or a girl?” The confusion I saw in others was manifesting itself as a strange feeling inside of me of not belonging to one thing or another. Eventually it would crystalize as questions about my sexuality.

I knew I was born in a boy’s body, but somehow what I felt inside of me didn’t align with the behavior that was expected of a boy. I felt different and didn’t fit in with my peers. I was bullied at school almost every day, being called a “pussy” or a “faggot.” It made me feel ashamed and led to confusion about who I was.

Having two sisters, I was drawn to play with dolls, makeup, and costumes. But I understood quickly that a boy wasn’t supposed to do that. So I stopped. I’d sit on the bed and watch my sisters play.

https://www.out.com/print/2020/8/17/guillaume-cizeron-why-it-was-imperative-me-come-out-publicly