Gay History -- How We Got Here

[michaelflanagansf]

I'm unsure if I posted this link to an online article about early gay historians - if so pardon the repost.  It had one I'd never heard of before!

http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/earlygay.htm

[tfferg]

Here are some other international references from th glbtq site.

Australia:

http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/australia.html

Austria:

http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/austria.html

Belgium:

http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/belgium.html

Canada:

http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/canada.html

London:

http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/london.html

Madrid:

http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/madrid.html

Mexico:

http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/mexico.html

Moscow:

http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/moscow.html

The Netherlands:

http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/netherlands.html

Paris:

http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/paris.html

Sweden:

http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/sweden.html

[That's all for now - there's an alpha index on the site, however]

The glbtq site also has articles on China, pre-independence sub-Saharan Africa and Thailand.

One of the general books referred to in the China article is

Hinsch, Bret. Passions of the Cut Sleeve: The Male Homosexual Tradition in China. Berkeley: University of California Press, 1990.

and another fascinating book is

Lars Eighner’s  Gay Cosmos  New York, 1995. Hard Candy Books

which among many other gems has a table of 44 African societies with a wide range of different homosexual traditions ad a worldwide brief cross-cultural survey.

[michaelflanagansf]

Actually, Tony, the only cross-cultural study I have is 'The Many Faces of Homosexuality' which is a little old (1986) and probably dry for most readers.

http://www.amazon.com/Many-Faces-Homosexuality-Anthropological-Approaches/dp/0918393205/ref=sr_1_1/103-7071639-7111031?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1174680018&sr=8-1

 I do remember when 'Passions of the Cut Sleeve: The Male Homosexual Tradition in China' came out, and it got very good press, as I recall.

When I was looking at 'The Many Faces of Homosexuality' I saw these two books which looked interesting:

Homosexualities by Stephen O. Murray:

http://www.amazon.com/Homosexualities-Worlds-Desire-Chicago-Sexuality/dp/0226551954/ref=pd_sim_b_2/103-7071639-7111031?ie=UTF8&qid=1174680359&sr=8-1

And 'The Geography of Perversion: Male-to-Male Sexual Behavior Outside the West and the Ethnographic Imagination, 1750-1918 ' by Rudi C. Bleys:

http://www.amazon.com/Geography-Perversion-Male-Male-Ethnographic/dp/0814712657/ref=sr_1_1/103-7071639-7111031?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1174680359&sr=8-1

[michaelflanagansf]

I posted an earlier link from this site, but I discovered this as well - it's a guide to Homosexuality in 18th Century England:

http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/eighteen.htm

And here's Dr. Norton's entire website:

http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/

And here is his WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL links page:

http://www.infopt.demon.co.uk/gaylink1.htm

[michaelflanagansf]

In putting together the list of expatriates that I posted the other day I got thinking about the Harlem Renaissance and realized that I should probably put up a few links to the movement and the major gay and lesbian authors involved in in.  Here is the overview site at the glbtq site:

http://www.glbtq.com/literature/harlem_renaissance.html

And here is that site's page on Countee Cullen, one of the major gay poets of the Harlem Renaissance:

http://www.glbtq.com/literature/cullen_c.html

And here is a page on the sculptor James Richmond Barthé:

http://www.glbtq.com/arts/barthe_jr.html

And the amazing A'Lelia Walker (daughter of the equally amazing Madam C. J. Walker):

http://www.glbtq.com/social-sciences/walker_a_ssh.html

[michaelflanagansf]

So...is it time to move on to the next section here?  Does anyone want anything in particular from the pre-Stonewall era covered that hasn't been yet?  Opinions?

[dejavu]

Michael, I just want to compliment you for putting all these great references together.

I've been busy and won't have time to read most of them right now, but they are a wealth of information.  Whenever you go on to the next section is fine with me; I'll read later, as long as the thread stays around.

[fritzkep]

Yes, Michael, it's good to begin at the beginning, but it is probably time to move on to a period that my friends and I have more personal knowledge about.

[Rob in Puyallup]

A quick note here to all my friends who didn't see this posted elsewhere... a little personal for this thread, perhaps, but thought I'd be forgiven anyway.

Last Thursday was the first anniversary of my "coming out"... without this movie of ours, without this forum and the family of friends I've made in it, and especially without my Nicky, it probably never would've happened.

This past year has shown me what it really means to be honest with myself and those around me. My life has never been better!

Many thanks to all involved!

Hugs,
Rob

[fritzkep]

Belated happy anniversary, Rob and Nick, wishing you all the best. Stay together at least 29 years, like me and Earl! 

[Mejack]

. . . a period that my friends and I have more personal knowledge about.

Young whippersnapper!! 

[Rob in Puyallup]

Belated happy anniversary, Rob and Nick, wishing you all the best. Stay together at least 29 years, like me and Earl! 

We're working on that Fritz!


 

[Nikki]

Michael,

This thread is a wonderful source of gay history -- kudos to you!!

BTW another book on Casement you may or may not be aware of is "Casement" by Angus Mitchell -- published by Haus Publishing in London.
I picked it up when I was in Ireland two years ago -- it a small book, but filed with information about Casement's early life and final execution. The introduction is prefaced by this quote from Casement: It is a cruel thing to die with all men misunderstanding -- misapprehending -- and to be silent forever.  Beautiful and still timely!

[michaelflanagansf]

It is a cruel thing to die with all men misunderstanding -- misapprehending -- and to be silent forever.  Beautiful and still timely!

Thank you Nikki.  Roger Casement is someone from history who I hold particularly close to my heart.  That quote gave me chills and brought tears to my eyes!  I'll look for Angus Mitchell's book!

[michaelflanagansf]

A quick note here to all my friends who didn't see this posted elsewhere... a little personal for this thread, perhaps, but thought I'd be forgiven anyway. {snip}
Rob

Well...if there's any thing that we learn from history Rob it's that our individual lives are important.  Congratulations and I encourage readers here to send p.m.s of support.