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Re: What good book have you read lately? (New or old)
« Reply #3990 on: September 21, 2020, 08:19:25 PM »
I have not read these yet, but I've picked them up at a local bookstore.  They're old, but I'd never seen them before, and I was looking to support a local business.


Jocks: True Stories of America's Gay Male Athletes

January 1, 1997
by Dan Woog

Woog characterizes the athletic locker room as "the largest, dingiest, smelliest closet left in America." He then profiles several dozen men, many still quite young, who have helped dispel at least the closet part of that characterization. Each has acknowledged his homosexuality and, with one poignant exception ("The Suicidal Jock," still adjusting as a college junior), has come out to coaches and teammates, or, if a coach himself, to students. Woog writes vividly about them all, communicating the fulfillment they find in sports as well as the satisfaction they experience in being out. He depicts them as normally complex persons coping with normally complex life situations, one of which is not, however, being turned on by the sight of naked teammates. Besides plenty of soccer players (Woog has coached the sport for 20 years), swimmers, gymnasts, wrestlers, runners, basketballers, hockey players, and even an "impostor," who admits going out for junior-high sports to be near other boys, also appear, and Woog concludes with advice to coaches on dealing with homophobia.


https://www.amazon.com/Jocks-True-Stories-Americas-Athletes/dp/1555833993/ref=sr_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=dan+woog&qid=1600741316&s=books&sr=1-5

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Re: What good book have you read lately? (New or old)
« Reply #3991 on: September 21, 2020, 08:21:52 PM »
Jocks 2: True Stories of America's Gay Male Athletes Paperback – October 1, 2002

by Dan Woog

In addition to becoming a nationwide bestseller, Jocks changed the face of athletics forever. Gay athletes realized they were not alone, young gay athletes discovered role models, and straight people learned that gay people are their teammates and coaches. Much has changed since its publication in 1998: Gay jocks are coming out even in high school, gay sports teams compete in every major city, and in almost every major sport-even testosterone-fueled contests such as rodeo, snowboarding, and mountain biking-there are openly gay competitors. But the locker room is still far from a friendly place for out athletes, so with Jocks 2, author and journalist Dan Woog introduces us to a group of gay athletes including:

The first openly gay college athletic director in the United States. .
A gay mountaineer who became the first deaf instructor hired by Outward Bound. .
An Ironman competitor. .
An HIV-positive former street hustler whose life was changed by wrestling. .
A student manager driven from his college team by the athletes he admired. .
A baseball fanatic who finally found self-esteem on the diamond.

These pointed, dynamic, and often triumphant profiles of gay athletes continue the tradition of illustrating that gay people are the friends, colleagues, neighbors, and teammates of all Americans.

A valuable resource for libraries, educators, coaches, and school counselors in overcoming stereotypes, providing encouragement for gay youth, and dispelling myths about sexuality among athletes.

https://www.amazon.com/Jocks-True-Stories-Americas-Athletes/dp/1555837263/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=dan+woog&qid=1600741290&s=books&sr=1-2

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Re: What good book have you read lately? (New or old)
« Reply #3992 on: November 20, 2020, 12:08:51 PM »
Douglas Stuart Wins Booker Prize for ‘Shuggie Bain’

The autobiographical novel, about the lonely gay son of an alcoholic mother in 1980s Scotland, was one of four debut books in this year’s shortlist.

The reviews look really good for this book. I am going to try to find it.

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Re: What good book have you read lately? (New or old)
« Reply #3993 on: November 24, 2020, 04:54:26 PM »
Hi friends,

I wanted to let you all know about an interesting novel I read for my book group: "The Disappearing Earth" by Julia Philips. It's about two girls who go missing in Kamchatka - and so much more. Each chapter is narrated by a different woman (except for the first and the last, narrated by the same person) and it fills in a portrait of the place, which becomes a character in its own right. Kamchatka is an isolated section of Russia with native people playing a significant role in the narrative of the book. It is in part a mystery, but it is also a commentary on gender roles in post-Soviet Russia and a commentary on what groups are in power and how that affects what is considered important (there is a missing native teen which is not mentioned till part way through the book and the treatment of the two cases draw a contrast between who is considered important).

I didn't think I was going to like this when I started it, but it swept me up in its narrative.

I think it's well worth reading.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/21/725056496/kamchatka-is-a-rich-backdrop-for-mystery-in-disappearing-earth
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Re: What good book have you read lately? (New or old)
« Reply #3994 on: November 24, 2020, 05:13:59 PM »
Hi friends,

I wanted to let you all know about an interesting novel I read for my book group: "The Disappearing Earth" by Julia Philips. It's about two girls who go missing in Kamchatka - and so much more. Each chapter is narrated by a different woman (except for the first and the last, narrated by the same person) and it fills in a portrait of the place, which becomes a character in its own right. Kamchatka is an isolated section of Russia with native people playing a significant role in the narrative of the book. It is in part a mystery, but it is also a commentary on gender roles in post-Soviet Russia and a commentary on what groups are in power and how that affects what is considered important (there is a missing native teen which is not mentioned till part way through the book and the treatment of the two cases draw a contrast between who is considered important).

I didn't think I was going to like this when I started it, but it swept me up in its narrative.

I think it's well worth reading.

https://www.npr.org/2019/05/21/725056496/kamchatka-is-a-rich-backdrop-for-mystery-in-disappearing-earth

Sounds intriguing, Michael. I'll look out for it.

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Re: What good book have you read lately? (New or old)
« Reply #3995 on: November 24, 2020, 05:44:55 PM »
Sounds intriguing, Michael. I'll look out for it.

I found it very interesting and it gets progressively more so throughout the book. It was a national book award finalist, and it's a first novel, so both of those made it interesting to me.
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Re: What good book have you read lately? (New or old)
« Reply #3996 on: November 24, 2020, 06:22:32 PM »
Read this review, then immediately added to my reading list.  Always been a big fan of Fox since "Family Ties"
-> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/13/books/michael-j-fox-no-time-like-the-future.html

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Re: What good book have you read lately? (New or old)
« Reply #3997 on: November 25, 2020, 01:38:40 PM »
Read this review, then immediately added to my reading list.  Always been a big fan of Fox since "Family Ties"
-> https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/13/books/michael-j-fox-no-time-like-the-future.html

This looks amazing. Vincent. Thanks for the recommendation!

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Re: What good book have you read lately? (New or old)
« Reply #3998 on: November 30, 2020, 09:45:59 PM »
Just a heads up for readers here:

I am going to be doing a book talk on Wed. evening at 7pm PST. For this talk I'm doing a "deep dive" into the collection, so I'll be talking about historical mysteries (particularly the Lyndsay Faye "Timothy Wilde" series and Matthew Pearl's "The Dante Club), magical realism ("The Master and Margarita"), the Gothic novel "Manuscript Found Saragossa" by Polish nobleman Count Jan Potocki, some sociology books (including the chilling "Methland") and cookbooks, craft books and movies for the holidays.

If you're interested come watch!

https://www.menlopark.org/Calendar.aspx?EID=6758
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Re: What good book have you read lately? (New or old)
« Reply #3999 on: December 19, 2020, 03:56:26 PM »
In the footsteps Mary Renault, Charles Lloyd published a homoerotic novel, The Walls of Sparta earlier this year (Lethe Press).

Drawing on the biography by the Athenian historian Xenophon who knew the warrior king personally and the biography by the later historian Plutarch, the author tells the story of Agesilaos II who ruled Sparta from roughly 400 to 359 BCE. a period when the city-state reached the peak of its power and began its decline. He fought into his 80s in Greece, Asia Minor and Egypt.

Charles Lloyd portrays this interesting figure through episodic chapters told from the point of view of the real men and women he depended on: his wife Kleora, his sister Kuniska, his son Arkhidamos, his older lover Lysandros, his seer Agias, the famous warrior Isadas and Xenophon.

Underlying almost everything and especially pivotal moments is homoeroticism. Agesilaus along with most of the Spartan male characters are involved in the culturally central relationships of a whisperer, an older, more experienced young warrior citizen who courted and educated a listener, a younger warrior.

Writing for a gay readership, Charles Lloyd invents a wide array of interweaving male characters including friends, military subordinates, political rivals, scribes, heralds, Persian boys and slaves. Through them, he depicts nuanced relationships and men in love in ways more familiar to present-day gay people.

The result is a vividly engrossing, detailed portrait of Spartan society and culture with many romantic and explicitly erotic scenes.

Charles Lloyd is an emeritus professor of classics at Marshall University in West Virginia.

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Re: What good book have you read lately? (New or old)
« Reply #4000 on: December 20, 2020, 01:43:20 AM »
I looked it up on Amazon. But I’ve got quite a lot to read, so I won’t get it now. It does sound interesting.

I’m rather into Philip Pullman atm. I’ve read the His Dark Materials trilogy twice, and the BBC tv are serialising them all - the second book, The Subtle Knife, finishes this evening. It’s very well done. (The last book has two gay angels in it!)

And I’ve been given the first two paperbacks of his sequel Book of Dust trilogy for Christmas.

I suppose you would call them Young Adult books. They are set pretty much in the present, but move between parallel worlds. The most notable thing perhaps is that in Lyra’s (the heroine) world every human has a daemon, which is like their soul. The daemon is a real animal which speaks, and always stays within a few yards of the human (they are beautifully done in the tv series). A child’s daemon changes form frequently, but at puberty it settles into one creature, somehow related to their personality.

I really enjoy them - an interesting blend of fantasy and quite serious philosophy. (The established church is a pretty malevolent entity!)

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Re: What good book have you read lately? (New or old)
« Reply #4001 on: December 22, 2020, 12:19:18 PM »
I looked it up on Amazon. But I’ve got quite a lot to read, so I won’t get it now. It does sound interesting.

I’m rather into Philip Pullman atm. I’ve read the His Dark Materials trilogy twice, and the BBC tv are serialising them all - the second book, The Subtle Knife, finishes this evening. It’s very well done. (The last book has two gay angels in it!)

And I’ve been given the first two paperbacks of his sequel Book of Dust trilogy for Christmas.

I suppose you would call them Young Adult books. They are set pretty much in the present, but move between parallel worlds. The most notable thing perhaps is that in Lyra’s (the heroine) world every human has a daemon, which is like their soul. The daemon is a real animal which speaks, and always stays within a few yards of the human (they are beautifully done in the tv series). A child’s daemon changes form frequently, but at puberty it settles into one creature, somehow related to their personality.

I really enjoy them - an interesting blend of fantasy and quite serious philosophy. (The established church is a pretty malevolent entity!)

I bought the sequel for M for this Christmas! I loved these books too, maybe should reread them ;)

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Re: What good book have you read lately? (New or old)
« Reply #4002 on: December 23, 2020, 10:02:42 AM »
They’re very good on Audible too!

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Re: What good book have you read lately? (New or old)
« Reply #4003 on: December 23, 2020, 03:16:47 PM »

Thanks for the S-i-t-d recommendation, Tony!

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Re: What good book have you read lately? (New or old)
« Reply #4004 on: December 23, 2020, 04:10:23 PM »
Thanks for the S-i-t-d recommendation, Tony!
you're welcome, Ingy