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Re: Gay Cinema
« Reply #4245 on: July 09, 2019, 04:29:24 AM »
We already saw it, some months ago, and really liked it a lot.

I had a feeling you’d seen it. Good, another one to look forward to.

LOL That’ll be 3 new gay-themed DVD’s in a week (the third is Sunday Bloody Sunday, Schlesinger 1971, which has long been a favourite). And I’m laughing because I’m wondering what will happen to my specialised DVD collection, not to mention quite a few books, when I am gone! :D
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« Reply #4246 on: July 09, 2019, 04:36:40 AM »

Oh, I love Sunday, Bloody Sunday.

Your collection will be "Rosemary Lane's gay treasure" in the future.
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« Reply #4247 on: July 09, 2019, 09:27:20 AM »
So, Final Protrait will be Armie's 3rd gay character in film? I know he said once he's trying to break through the 'stigma' of straight actors playing a Gay character role. What does that MEAN? There's stigma to it? I thought the Gay community was a little put off by straight actors TRYING to seriously play a Gay character. no? whatever, I'm sure Armie is great in the film. Will be an interesting film to see.

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« Reply #4248 on: July 09, 2019, 10:15:32 AM »

Why 'will be'? This is not a recent film.

He's great in the movie indeed, and it doesn't matter much that he's gay - it's about the "manipulation" and dependence between an artist and a model. Psychologically intriguing. Lovely.  ;)
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« Reply #4249 on: July 09, 2019, 10:19:16 AM »
So, Final Protrait will be Armie's 3rd gay character in film? I know he said once he's trying to break through the 'stigma' of straight actors playing a Gay character role. What does that MEAN? There's stigma to it? I thought the Gay community was a little put off by straight actors TRYING to seriously play a Gay character. no? whatever, I'm sure Armie is great in the film. Will be an interesting film to see.

Maybe we haven't come that far after all. I seem to remember there were actors who didn't want to play Ennis or Jack because they didn't want to play gay characters, because they were afraid they'd be stigmatized for it, not by gay audiences but by Hollywood.

I understand there are gays who are more than a little put off by straight actors playing gay. I don't particularly care, as long as the actor is hot. ...  ::)

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Re: Gay Cinema
« Reply #4250 on: July 09, 2019, 10:42:02 AM »
I had a feeling you’d seen it. Good, another one to look forward to.

LOL That’ll be 3 new gay-themed DVD’s in a week (the third is Sunday Bloody Sunday, Schlesinger 1971, which has long been a favourite). And I’m laughing because I’m wondering what will happen to my specialised DVD collection, not to mention quite a few books, when I am gone! :D

Leave it to someone,  who will appreciate it, in your will.

This is funny and not funny. I had ALOT of gay and porn DVDs when I lived in Texas. In the process of moving to CA , I packed them all in a separate box and labeled it DVD.
Well, when everything arrived, that box was gone.

Can you imagine the look on the face of whoever took the box when they opened it and found nothing but gay films and gay porn???  I got satisfaction out of that thought.
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Re: Gay Cinema
« Reply #4251 on: July 09, 2019, 11:09:17 AM »
This is funny and not funny. I had ALOT of gay and porn DVDs when I lived in Texas. In the process of moving to CA , I packed them all in a separate box and labeled it DVD.
Well, when everything arrived, that box was gone.

Can you imagine the look on the face of whoever took the box when they opened it and found nothing but gay films and gay porn???  I got satisfaction out of that thought.

1. Oh no...

2. Probably someone in a monastery.
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« Reply #4252 on: July 09, 2019, 11:15:09 AM »
Can you imagine the look on the face of whoever took the box when they opened it and found nothing but gay films and gay porn???  I got satisfaction out of that thought.

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Re: Gay Cinema
« Reply #4253 on: July 09, 2019, 06:30:36 PM »
LOL I bet... "damn...  :o"

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« Reply #4254 on: July 09, 2019, 07:09:40 PM »
LOL I bet... "damn...  :o"

Yeah, Vincent. That was the only consolation I got out of it.
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Re: Gay Cinema
« Reply #4255 on: July 31, 2019, 01:05:59 PM »
I watched Sorry Angel last night, a French film, very interesting and poignant to me anyway...(spoiler)....yet another SAD ending though.......

I presume Ing and Sara have probably seen it too. Loved the lead actors in it....... ;D

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« Reply #4256 on: July 31, 2019, 02:10:24 PM »

My Mr S saw it... I haven't (yet).
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« Reply #4257 on: July 31, 2019, 06:14:34 PM »
I saw it last August and posted about it. It is sad and I worried for the characters at the end, however, it doesn't wallow in the tragedy. It is a complex film and  there are joyful scenes too.

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« Reply #4258 on: August 13, 2019, 11:24:06 PM »
And Then We Danced is a dramatic Georgian gay romance directed by gay Swedish film-maker Levan Akin who is of Georgian descent. It is his response to seeing newsclips in 2013 of a huge very violent right-wing mob led by Orthodox Church priests (with suspected Russian involvement) in Tbilisi viciously attacking a small group of brave LGBTIQ IDAHOBIT marchers.

Levan Akin returned to Tbilisi recently to make this film to support LGBTIQ Georgians. Although young Georgians reject the traditional culture because of its patriarchal, homophobic aspects, the director loves other aspects of it. He says that Georgia used to be more tolerant of minorities.

He developed the screenplay by drawing on the real-life experiences of gay Georgians he met or interacted with on social media.

The film shows the story of Merab, a young man from a family of Georgian traditional dancers. He is played by the brilliant 20 year-old dancer and debut actor Levan Gelbakhiani. He is training very hard in the hope of being recruited into the National Dance Ensemble. He has been partnered with Mary (Ana Javakishvili) since they were 10 years old and it is assumed they are a couple.

Aleko (Kakha Gogidze) their harshly authoritarian teacher at the feeder school humiliates his students. He insists that Merab must dance "like a nail", "like a monument" and that Mary stop showing her desire for Merab in her eyes. "There is no sex in Georgian dancing" and she must portray "virginal purity". He and the selector from the National Ensemble say that Georgian dance embodies the spirit of the nation.

They claim that Georgian dancing used to be "softer" but it was hardened up 50 years ago (when Georgia was part of the USSR), accentuating mountain warrior characteristics. For the men, it is spectacularly athletic. It looks like they must be at risk of crippling injuries.

The drama intensifies with the arrival of of Irakli (Bachi Valishvili), a smiling new student from Batumi. It immediately becomes clear that he is a serious rival for a vacancy in the National Ensemble (caused by the sacking of a dancer caught having gay sex with man during a tour to Yerevan). Nevertheless, Merab finds himself more and more attracted to Irakli. The attraction is mutual as is evident when Aleko orders them to rehearse a traditional male dance duet. The original expressive dance has been stripped of its queer seductiveness, but Merab and Irakli dance it with broad smiles, shining eyes and androgynous hand movements.

The two actors make a very attractive and convincingly romantic couple. Gelbakhiani makes an absolute picture of the joy of falling in love for the first time.

Merab and Irakli are unquestioningly accepting of their emerging sexuality, but cautiously well aware of widespread societal homophobia, including among the other male students against whom they are competing. Irakli tells the other students he has a girl friend in Batumi.

The future of their relationship as it develops is challenged not only by widespread homophobia but the needs of their families and their roles in helping them in the harsh daily struggle to make ends meet.

Swedish cinematographer Lisabi Fridell shot  the dance sequences and intimate scenes in warm tones. Her style  throughout the film is very fluid.

The soundtrack features many Georgian folk songs and a particularly beautiful a cappella polyphonic piece sung by family and guests at a weekend party in a house in the mountains. It is there that Merab dances in private moment for Irakli with Robyn's "Honey". Kite's "Johnny Boy" is also heard with its line, "I know myself". There's also an ABBA song which has been a hit in Georgia since Soviet times. Benny Andersson's son Ludwig is one of the co-producers.

When push comes to sad shove, emotional support for Merab comes surprisingly from a troublesome straight character in an intimate scene.

Despite the homophobia, nobody dies.

The brilliant final sequence portrays defiance and courage in a tour de force.

The film premiered in the Directors' Fortnight at Cannes this year where it was deservedly greeted with a standing ovation.

It has been sold to distributors in Western Europe other countries and probably will be released in the UK and the US.
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Re: Gay Cinema
« Reply #4259 on: August 14, 2019, 10:30:45 AM »
Sounds GREAT Tony!! I'll check YT for it.......thanks!  ;D