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Re: BBM General Discussion 2
« Reply #330 on: July 03, 2008, 08:03:35 PM »
I agree with most of the above statements that for us, honoring Heath Ledger makes perfect sense.  IMO the controversy may be more rooted in what seems like a hasty decision -- like naming the theater very soon after his death, without a period of discernment to see whether his impact will be long-lasting.

To us Heath means a lot, but to many in Australia it might seem a rather hasty honor.

In the long run it will probably be more accepted.
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Re: BBM General Discussion 2
« Reply #331 on: July 03, 2008, 09:12:51 PM »
I agree with most of the above statements that for us, honoring Heath Ledger makes perfect sense.  IMO the controversy may be more rooted in what seems like a hasty decision -- like naming the theater very soon after his death, without a period of discernment to see whether his impact will be long-lasting.

To us Heath means a lot, but to many in Australia it might seem a rather hasty honor.

In the long run it will probably be more accepted.

For this Australian, it's not a hasty honour.
As an actor, Heath seemed to disappear into his roles.

A notorious Australian phenomenon is the Tall Poppy Syndrome. Anyone who is very distinguished or famous is liable to be cut down to size eventually.

BTW, I was puzzled by the politician's comment that the name would draw people to the theatre. WTF? Who decides to go to see a theatrical performance on the basis of the name of the theatre?

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Re: BBM General Discussion 2
« Reply #332 on: July 03, 2008, 09:27:30 PM »
It may not actually draw people but it won't shut out a lot of people, I suspect. Here in Melbourne I always feel that I should dress up when going to the Rupert Hamer Hall or whatever. Something named after Heath sounds a bit more accessible.

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Re: BBM General Discussion 2
« Reply #333 on: July 03, 2008, 09:30:35 PM »
I never got a reply from GLAAD, but they did publish my letter on their website.

It's not easy to find, so here's the link:

http://glaadorg.nexcess.net/cinequeer/2008/06/30-days-of-pride-whats-on-tv-t-12.html

Well done, John!

The editing for Bravo cannot possibly have been just a mistake. It's a well-established pattern that homophobic mainstreamers cannot accept the idea that same-sex relationships can be truly loving in the same way as opposite-sex ones. Showing SNIT in full would utterly undermine the notion that same-sex relationships are inauthentic, immoral, perverted and one-dimensionally lust driven.

Although of course I am not in the US with access to Bravo, I never watch movies on commercial TV. I refuse to submit to the butchery of the integrity of any film by commercial breaks or the need to edit them to fit pre-determined timeslots.

I hope that there are people who watched BBM for the first time on Bravo who are inspired to go and find the real thing.

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Re: BBM General Discussion 2
« Reply #334 on: July 03, 2008, 10:01:15 PM »
OMG I'm so embarrased.

I misspelled 'pivotal'

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Re: BBM General Discussion 2
« Reply #335 on: July 03, 2008, 10:40:24 PM »
You misspelled embarrassed too  :D :D :D

I'm just glad no-one walks behind me, pointing out my spelling mistakes.

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Re: BBM General Discussion 2
« Reply #336 on: July 03, 2008, 10:51:24 PM »
I guess I need to start using spellcheck AT MY AGE.

It's a combination of bad eyesight and laziness. I'm usually very picky about my spelling, especially at work. I would never issue a memo without running spellcheck and then having my assistant proofread it.


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Re: BBM General Discussion 2
« Reply #337 on: July 04, 2008, 02:28:37 AM »
http://www.hollywoodchamber.net/icons/faq.asp

A Star on the Walk of Fame for Heath Ledger?

5 years will have passed around the time of the Brokeback Mountain
Opera premiere (scheduled for 2013).

How to get a "letter of agreement" and obtain $25,000?

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Re: BBM General Discussion 2
« Reply #338 on: July 04, 2008, 01:04:58 PM »
I'm 100% sure this will happen.

How to raise $25,000?  I don't think that would be a problem at all.

If I'm still alive I'll be there when the star get placed.


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Re: BBM General Discussion 2
« Reply #339 on: July 04, 2008, 08:12:43 PM »
Conidering the generosity on this forum, we could probably have $25000 by the end of next week.
In 2010, 606 people (all ages) were accidentally killed by guns.
Almost 3000 teens (15-19) die in traffic accidents a year.
1100 kids under 19 drown each year.
44 kids under 5 died of heat stroke in hot cars in 2013.
HIGH school sports account for 1.2 million trips to the ER annually.

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Re: BBM General Discussion 2
« Reply #340 on: July 06, 2008, 12:54:43 AM »
What needs to be done to get permission for a Walk of Fame Star
from his representative(s) so that raising the $25,000 can begin?

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Re: BBM General Discussion 2
« Reply #341 on: July 06, 2008, 01:26:33 AM »
What needs to be done to get permission for a Walk of Fame Star
from his representative(s) so that raising the $25,000 can begin?


Probably have to get in touch with Kim Ledger.

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Re: BBM General Discussion 2
« Reply #342 on: July 06, 2008, 06:05:29 AM »
I'm 100% sure this will happen.

How to raise $25,000?  I don't think that would be a problem at all.

If I'm still alive I'll be there when the star get placed.



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Re: BBM General Discussion 2
« Reply #343 on: July 06, 2008, 04:38:11 PM »
Christopher Nolan on Heath in the July 11th edition of Entertainment Weekly:

"The guy had serious nuts.  What I needed was someone who wouldn't be afraid of the comparison with Jack Nicholson.  And then I saw Heath's incredible performance in Brokeback Mountain.  Such a lack of vanity.  This was an actor who wasn't afraid to bury himself in his character - to a massive extent."

I find it so interesting that Nolan looked at that performance and thought to himself, "Now that's the man I need to play the Joker in my next Batman movie."  That would probably have been the last role that would have popped into my head after seeing Heath play Ennis.  Yet, it shows just how fine an eye for acting - and a gift for understanding actors - Nolan must have to be able to make such a leap.  It's almost as impressive to me as Ang's being able to look at much of Heath's earlier work and think that the actor would fit so well in the Ennis role.  I guess that's why they're making movies and I'm not.   ;)

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Re: BBM General Discussion 2
« Reply #344 on: July 08, 2008, 02:41:53 PM »
Somewhere I read or heard that it was Heath's work in Monster's Ball that clinched it for Ang Lee.  I'm embarrassed to admit that Heath didn't even register w/ me when I first saw the film.  Forget I said that.  Musta left my eyes and my gonads at home.