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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #6930 on: July 27, 2022, 06:18:13 AM »
https://archive.macleans.ca/article/1932/9/1/naked-truth

LOL.. gotta love it!!  Ah!  So it IS MY (selfish) "religious freedom" to parade around fully naked, because "well, that was the "dress" of Adam and Eve (and therefore it must be good-enough for ME)!!"  (aka, more cherry-picking).  I wonder how long it would be before neighbors complained and those true fanatics / believers were charged with public indecency and then soon un-employed.  My, my...  the insanity swirls around the drain - around and around we go... TY.  Peace.

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #6931 on: July 27, 2022, 07:14:58 AM »
^^^ It's called "cherry-picking the scriptures". 

Sure enough, but everybody does that. Even Jesus' disciples did that to prove he was the Anointed One.

Never mind. ...

Of course, this always reminds me of that wonderful episode of The West Wing where President Bartlett shut down a Laura Ingraham-type character by running down a whole list of things mandated by Scripture (e.g., killing your children if they disrespect you).

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #6932 on: July 27, 2022, 10:44:35 AM »
^^^ Yeap, great example.  Cutting off the hands of thieves, cutting out the tongues of liars, publicly stoning those committing adultery, or out-of-wedlock sex, forever-married meaning no divorces ever b/c those married in the sight of "god" are forever joined.  Just a ton of BS, these fanatics choose to ignore while they cherry-pick others.   All a bunch of hell-bound hypocrites and they don't even know it.  Karma, baby karma!  V.   

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #6933 on: July 27, 2022, 12:34:54 PM »
Well yes, if you believe in hell I suppose so.

The reason they cherry pick the bible is because it's so huge that there's a little of everything in there. So there are talking donkeys (Balaam's donkey) and men who G-d has kill his daughter because...well because he's in charge and he said so (Jephthah).

So what Jeff says is entirely true - everybody who quotes that book cherry picks, because there is so much in there, and they claim it's the literal word of the almighty. It would be like if the Edda had to be followed literally, or if Grimm's Fairy Tales was what we based our culture on. That's why no one knows that Jephthah killed his daughter because God said so and everyone knows that Abraham spared his son because God said so. God is apparently kind of inconsistent.

Oh, also why they run around saying that life is sacred and a gift from God and ignore that God told Joshua to leave nothing alive that breathes (Joshua 10:40).

If you don't cherry pick that stuff it's so internally inconsistent that it will drive you nuts.
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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #6934 on: July 27, 2022, 01:28:58 PM »
10-4!  Absolutely - cherry picking is a fanatic's art!  What troubles me is WTF people don't call the lunatics out on BS.  Usually arguing with bible-thumping fanatics becomes a "debate" on theology... but the core tenants of "the scriptures" are less debatable.  Eye for an eye, tongue for liars, public stoning for adultery and a host of other sins. .. and so forth.  I don't see these quacks lining up Supreme court cases (yet) to revoke "divorce" now that there's a full religious voting contingent installed in SCOTUS.   I'll say it again, organized religion nothing more than a cunning con-$ machine based on soothing "scriptural" opium for the masses. 

Yes, what matters is these lunatics certainly believe in "a hell" or they could not believe in "a heaven".  So when they take their last breath... I surely hope (at least it's a comfort to myself) that "karma" will collect.  V.

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #6936 on: July 28, 2022, 01:12:12 PM »
 :laugh:  So true!

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #6937 on: July 28, 2022, 10:39:52 PM »
I remember someone on TV showing a notice inside one of her boxes she ordered that was packed with those styrofoam peanuts. The warning notice said, "Do not eat the styrofoam packing materials even if covered in a cream sauce."   :laugh:

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #6938 on: August 02, 2022, 07:47:52 PM »
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Judge dismisses Trump's 'immunity' claim in Jan. 6 lawsuits


Dareh Gregorian and Daniel Barnes
Tue, August 2, 2022 at 12:15 PM

A federal judge on Tuesday denied former President Donald Trump's bid to dismiss three lawsuits brought by police officers injured in the Jan. 6 riot, rejecting his assertion that he is "absolutely immune" from the claims.

The lawsuits, brought on behalf of four U.S. Capitol Police officers, seek to hold Trump liable for emotional and physical injuries they sustained when a pro-Trump mob stormed the Capitol and disrupted the electoral vote count.

“In nearly identically worded motions, President Trump has moved to dismiss all three actions on one ground: he is absolutely immune from suit because the acts complained of fall within the 'outer perimeter' of his presidential responsibilities,” U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta wrote in his brief ruling.

The judge noted that he had rejected similar arguments by Trump in other Jan. 6 lawsuits this year. "The court does so again," Mehta wrote.

Dareh Gregorian and Daniel Barnes
Tue, August 2, 2022 at 12:15 PM
A federal judge on Tuesday denied former President Donald Trump's bid to dismiss three lawsuits brought by police officers injured in the Jan. 6 riot, rejecting his assertion that he is "absolutely immune" from the claims.

The lawsuits, brought on behalf of four U.S. Capitol Police officers, seek to hold Trump liable for emotional and physical injuries they sustained when a pro-Trump mob stormed the Capitol and disrupted the electoral vote count.

“In nearly identically worded motions, President Trump has moved to dismiss all three actions on one ground: he is absolutely immune from suit because the acts complained of fall within the 'outer perimeter' of his presidential responsibilities,” U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta wrote in his brief ruling.

The judge noted that he had rejected similar arguments by Trump in other Jan. 6 lawsuits this year. "The court does so again," Mehta wrote.

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The earlier ruling held that Trump’s alleged actions in provoking the riot “entirely concern[ed] his efforts to remain in office for a second term” and did "not fall within the 'outer perimeter' of a president’s official responsibilities," a finding Mehta reiterated Tuesday.

Trump's office did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Trump is already appealing the judge's February ruling in the other cases.

In a legal brief filed last week, Trump’s lawyers urged the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia to find that Mehta wrongly concluded that courts should look at the contents of a president’s remarks when they decide whether immunity applies. “Examining the contents of a tweet or speech constitutes an intrusion on the executive,” they said.

Trump's lawyers contended that by questioning the results of the election in the weeks before Jan. 6, 2021, and on the day itself, Trump was exercising a president’s ability to use the bully pulpit and was “engaged in an open discussion and debate about the integrity of the 2020 election.”

Mehta had found that Trump’s actions “do not relate to his duties of faithfully executing the laws, conducting foreign affairs, commanding the armed forces, or managing the Executive Branch,” adding, “They entirely concern his efforts to remain in office for a second term. These are unofficial acts.”
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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #6939 on: August 02, 2022, 09:29:11 PM »
Congratulations Kansas!

https://www.npr.org/sections/2022-live-primary-election-race-results/2022/08/02/1115317596/kansas-voters-abortion-legal-reject-constitutional-amendment

Voters in Kansas decide to keep abortion legal in the state, rejecting an amendment

LAWRENCE, Kan. — Voters in Kansas rejected a proposed state constitutional amendment Tuesday that would have said there was no right to an abortion in the state, according to The Associated Press.

Kansas was the first state to vote on abortion rights since the U.S. Supreme Court handed down its ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson's Women's Health Organization.

The vote, for now, preserves access to abortion in Kansas and serves as a rebuke to the regional trend of states significantly restricting access. Since the overturning of Roe v. Wade, Kansas has become an abortion destination for people from other states.

[article continues online]
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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #6940 on: August 02, 2022, 09:31:18 PM »
And they forced the vote to be during a primary thinking that the low turnout and high motivation would insure that they would prevail.

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #6941 on: August 02, 2022, 09:38:01 PM »
Congratulations Kansas!

https://www.npr.org/sections/2022-live-primary-election-race-results/2022/08/02/1115317596/kansas-voters-abortion-legal-reject-constitutional-amendment

Voters in Kansas decide to keep abortion legal in the state, rejecting an amendment

LAWRENCE, Kan. — Voters in Kansas rejected a proposed state constitutional amendment Tuesday that would have said there was no right to an abortion in the state, according to The Associated Press.

Kansas was the first state to vote on abortion rights since the U.S. Supreme Court handed down its ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson's Women's Health Organization.

The vote, for now, preserves access to abortion in Kansas and serves as a rebuke to the regional trend of states significantly restricting access. Since the overturning of Roe v. Wade, Kansas has become an abortion destination for people from other states.

[article continues online]

I'm so very glad to hear this, Michael!! Thanks for posting this. I've been trying to keep up but I have been busy elsewhere trying to slay the dragon of healthcare, with not much luck unfortunately.
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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #6942 on: August 02, 2022, 09:39:27 PM »
And they forced the vote to be during a primary thinking that the low turnout and high motivation would insure that they would prevail.

I was wondering about this, Fritz.
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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #6943 on: August 03, 2022, 03:26:14 AM »
waking up and seeing the stories that Auntie and Michael posted is a great way to start the day.


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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #6944 on: August 03, 2022, 01:33:03 PM »
I must say that Kansas vote surprised me. Now, who's going to claim it was corrupt?