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Offline Lyle (Mooska)

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #7140 on: September 22, 2022, 11:13:21 AM »
I have to take the current news at my own pace which means for me to listen to these YouTube videos when my head is in the right space to be able to deal with these issues. I'm not listening to the local news at all, except for the weather forecasts (which they get wrong more times than not >:( ) because of all the political election ads.

I agree about listening to the news less. The most election ads I've seen here are not for candidates, but for and against propositions on the ballot. California really needs to do something about the way ballot propositions get onto our ballots.

Background: In 2000, there was a ballot proposition to allow in person gambling (propositions like to use the word "gaming") like casinos and such, by some Indian tribes. The ads for these propositions were all about how Indians have been mistreated over the centuries and deserve this as some sort of reparation. I did not vote for this because of this: On the profits they would make from this, NO STATE TAXES would be required to be paid. At the time the state was doing well. By 2008 when the state wasn't this looked like a really bad outcome.

Now: We currently have two propositions about gambling on the ballot. Out of state gambling interests got lawyers to write a proposition that allows CA to allow gambling online. But it's being framed as helping "all the poor Indian tribes that don't benefit from the 2000 proposition." Since May/June the gambling interests and the Indians with Casinos interest have so much money that they've been airing commercials practically around the clock against each other. (And on every streaming service, and youtube videos, etc.) These commercials aren't coming from the point of "should we allow online gambling" -- they are presented as being about helping the poor Indians, stopping homelessness in the state etc. No, the Propositions are for FanDuel and Draft Kings, two out of state online gambling companies, to make millions (or more) profits off CA. 90% of the revenue is going to the sports betting companies, not to help Californians in any way.

Look at this fact: Proponents of legalizing sports gambling have poured more money into this year’s California proposition campaigns than any other proposition in the state’s history. Two dueling propositions, 26 and 27, will appear on the statewide November ballot. The propositions ask voters essentially the same question: Should sports gambling in California be legalized? The main difference between them is how sports gambling would be allowed.

Most propositions on the ballot have raised under $10 million each, according to the California Secretary of State’s Office. Meanwhile, Prop 26 and Prop 27 raised hundreds of millions.
 
It's all insane. Good news is that the most recent poll shows voters would defeat this Proposition. I think voters are just voting NO on having these commercials in their face constantly. Fine with me.

Proposition 30
We also have this proposition. All the ads talk about how it will fund resources for firemen in the state and help with global warming, which may turn out to be just scre tactics, because I saw an ad against this Proposition from our Governor, Gavin Newsom, that says to vote NO on it because the ride share company Lyft has written it to make themselves millions of dollars, not to really do what the ads say it is. I did not know this.

We need to put a proposition on the ballot to outlaw out of state money interests trying to cash in on Californians to benefit themselves or California millionaires and politicians putting things on the ballot because they pay people to get the petitions for these things signed for their monetary gain.

Or their stupid whims. Remember this one from 2018?

Look what I get to vote on this year.

A billionaire with money to waste has gotten a ballot initiative to qualify for the next election, to separate California into three states.


Anyone with sense in their head knows that this will never happen. It's actually been tried before. Not once. Not ten times. Not even a hundred times. There have been at least 220 efforts to hack California up into smaller states, with at least five just since 2000.

This billionaire actually tried to get a proposal on the ballot in 2016 to break the state up into six separate states. This time he had the law proposal written so that it changes a statute, instead of a constitutional provision, so it required a lot less signatures to get on the ballot. Second, it is written so that the state does not have to give consent, it's written so that the consent of the people is implied if it passes, so it would go directly to Congress which is required to approve such a thing.

As far as I can research, nearly all of the "break California up" proposals are started by Republicans and usually businessmen. It's so contradictory when you think that Conservatives are always railing against big government, less government is better, or no government, and yet instead of one Governor they think three would be better? Instead of two Senators they'd like to have 4 more? It makes no sense.

If it passed I guess I might be living in Lo-Cal.  :D
Or Medi-Cal.

One of the most complicated things in California that would cause the most trouble ever if this really happened would be the hugely intricate and labyrinthine laws regarding the water rights in this state. I can't imagine.

And just like another so-called billionaire you might know, he has his own college: Draper University.

The State Republican party at their recent convention even said NO to this.

The only poll that was done about this was asked once before it was confirmed as a ballot proposition.

72% said NO.
18% said YES.
10% were undecided or just don't like to answer polls.

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #7141 on: September 23, 2022, 01:05:08 PM »
The proposition system in California is badly broken. It's a way for deep monied interests to get around the legislature. If what they were proposing was good for the state they would be able to get someone to sponsor a bill.

Both of the gambling proposals, 26 and 27, are worthless. Who wants people spending money on gambling on their phones? It seems like a really good way to bankrupt people.
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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #7142 on: September 23, 2022, 02:46:43 PM »
^^^
Exactly.

Hopefully people will see through the ads. Up until recently all the ads were presented as if they weren't even proposals about gambling, just that they were bills to help deal with homeless, housing, poor Indian tribes, etc. and that's why you should vote for them. It was as if the gambling wasn't even an issue. I hope the electorate is paying attention. There's enough ways to gamble for those who really want to.

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #7143 on: September 23, 2022, 02:58:48 PM »

I've never heard of Ray Epps.

This hasn't gotten much attention that I know of. The House and Senate frequently have hearings on things that don't get, or usually warrant, any attention. In a hearing a day or two ago, Democratic Congressman Jamie Raskin was asked, by Republican Rep. Thomas Massie (PA), to respond to a repeatedly debunked conspiracy theory about a Trump supporter named Ray Epps, who Massie and other extremist Republicans have accused of being an FBI plant. Raskin let him have it.

Raskin's response should be how everyone treats these MAGA people and their idiocy. Watch:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKoS_xi2_ss


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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #7144 on: September 23, 2022, 08:25:28 PM »
January 6 rioter who chased Capitol police officer near Senate chambers found guilty on all charges

By Andrew Millman and Holmes Lybrand - September 23, 2022


Douglas Jensen, a January 6, 2021, rioter at the forefront of a group that chased US Capitol Police Officer Eugene Goodman near the Senate chamber, was found guilty by a Washington, DC, jury Friday evening on charges related to the attack.

Jensen was found guilty on each of the seven charges brought by the government, including assaulting, impeding or resisting an officer and obstructing an official proceeding, which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years – though the sentencing guidelines for Jensen will likely be far lower. Five of the charges were felonies and two were misdemeanor offenses.

During the trial, Jensen’s attorney, Christopher Davis, told the jury that before January 6, Jensen had fallen down an internet “rabbit hole” and became a follower of the conspiracy theory known as QAnon. As part of it, Jensen believed that during the riot, officers would begin arresting elected officials who opposed President Donald Trump’s efforts to stop the certification, Davis said, including Vice President Mike Pence.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/23/politics/douglas-jensen-guilty-qanon-january-6-trial/index.html

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #7145 on: September 23, 2022, 11:12:29 PM »
^^^

I heard that, too. I mean, that's one of the most insane things he's ever said, and there is quite the list. Lists.

In that same interview, another insane thing he said: He believes the FBI and Department of Justice raided his Mar-a-Lago residence to look for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's emails.

Because, well, why not?



The ones that have been erased and no one can find them.

What an absolute nut job!!
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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #7146 on: Yesterday at 08:01:45 PM »
Who wants people spending money on gambling on their phones?

Wait. Seriously. You can't do this in California? Because back here you can't escape TV ads for gambling aps for phones--including several, I'm sorry to say, that starred Drew Brees.

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #7147 on: Yesterday at 08:03:35 PM »
Wait. Seriously. You can't do this in California? Because back here you can't escape TV ads for gambling aps for phones--including several, I'm sorry to say, that starred Drew Brees.

Yes, I see them all the time here in NJ.

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Re: News and Current Events - 2017 - 2022
« Reply #7148 on: Yesterday at 10:46:18 PM »
Wait. Seriously. You can't do this in California? Because back here you can't escape TV ads for gambling aps for phones--including several, I'm sorry to say, that starred Drew Brees.

Nope. Drive 'em crazy too. We're a big market.
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