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Re: Mourning Someone Who Has Died
« Reply #3915 on: August 19, 2022, 08:39:22 AM »
Julie Vognar's (TwistedDude) daughter Martha sent this picture of Julie on Messenger with the request to share it among her friends.



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Re: Mourning Someone Who Has Died
« Reply #3916 on: August 25, 2022, 01:53:31 PM »

It is with great sadness that I have to update this list.   Helga Süß has passed away.

I don't know that she was a member here or on Bettermost.   If someone knows that she was, and what her username was, please let me know.

I do know that she's been to some of the filming sites, and has them on her FB page.





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Re: Mourning Someone Who Has Died
« Reply #3917 on: August 25, 2022, 04:04:05 PM »

Here is the death notice I found yesterday:

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Re: Mourning Someone Who Has Died
« Reply #3918 on: August 25, 2022, 04:05:27 PM »

It's unmistakably her. See the Brokie quote.

Daniel is her son.

(I'm pretty sure she was on Bettermost. She belonged to a very active small Brokie group, they often met - and regularly too.)

I'm shocked by Helga's death, and I'm very sad.

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Re: Mourning Someone Who Has Died
« Reply #3919 on: August 25, 2022, 04:08:52 PM »
Thanks for the notice.

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Re: Mourning Someone Who Has Died
« Reply #3920 on: August 25, 2022, 04:11:30 PM »
Thanks for sharing that, Ingy!!

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Re: Mourning Someone Who Has Died
« Reply #3921 on: August 25, 2022, 04:14:31 PM »

You're very welcome, Fritzchen and Chuckster.

I was "satisfied" somehow to have found it, after months of not knowing and wondering - though I'm aware that this sounds quite inappropriate. What I mean is: It was good not to be any longer with this uncertainty.
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Re: Mourning Someone Who Has Died
« Reply #3922 on: September 11, 2022, 12:22:48 PM »

It is with great sadness that I have to update this list.   Jack has passed away.

Jack had been one of the first members of this forum, and one of the more prolific posters in the forum's early days.

He had gone to the first BBQ in Texas, as well as an early gathering in NYC.

Jack was open about his alcoholism, and was proud that he quit drinking in 1983.  He also quit smoking in 1999.

He often spoke of his dream of moving to Hawaii.  He made it there in 2015.





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Re: Mourning Someone Who Has Died
« Reply #3923 on: September 11, 2022, 12:24:20 PM »

Jack's first post to the forum.


i am going to keep this brief, as my legs are going to sleep sitting cross-legged on the floor, and thid mini laptop is blindness inducing.

coming from my heart, i think it may matter more to gay men "of a certain age", or even of a particular political bent how jack dies.  the thwarted love story is not the only matter here, although it is certainly the universal theme.  there is a zeitgeist.  along with the love and loss, along with personal memories of ennis' i have known and loved, there is the world i have inhabited and the costs i have seen it inflict on those who have dared to be them selves and love who they loved.  the story was published, after all, just about a year before the death of young matthew sheppard.

that there is ambiguity in both the movie and the story is a given...  which feelings within each of us is going to be set off is going to be determined in part by life experience and personality.  for me, part of the sadness, beyond the longing and loss, is rage, at the acts of violence, and at the relative powerless to stop them.  a 17 year old mtf tran was killed last year and buried in a shallow grave because of a mistake in partner choices.  it happens.

jack, as the story and the movie thus far, reveal him to me, was likely to take these risks, and likely to suffer the consequences, even more so than the vigilante motif of ennis's youth.    i like it that someone voiced that lureen lied, not because she was complicit, but because she could hardly allow it to be known, even though she had known and accepted the arrangement.

the reason shakespeare endures is because the humanity of the characters reamins apparent.  this story will live on for the same reason.




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Re: Mourning Someone Who Has Died
« Reply #3924 on: September 11, 2022, 12:47:44 PM »
Thank you for this information, Chuck. I know that he had been ailing for quite a while.

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Re: Mourning Someone Who Has Died
« Reply #3925 on: September 11, 2022, 12:59:52 PM »
Some pics of Jack



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Re: Mourning Someone Who Has Died
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Re: Mourning Someone Who Has Died
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Re: Mourning Someone Who Has Died
« Reply #3929 on: September 11, 2022, 01:02:24 PM »



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