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Re: Did Brokeback Change our Culture?
« Reply #255 on: March 06, 2008, 03:36:35 AM »

Agree with you both, Marie & Kim.
"Avoid it" on the one hand, keep on insulting on the other.
"Sale pédé" is still the most current insult in France between men, and the poor Jewish guy who was tortured almost to death the other day, had it written all over his front, written by his torturers.

"Pédé" makes me almost laugh, since, what most people ignore, it stems from the Greek word paedos, young boy, and designs just a little boy. Pedophilia and homosexuality thus are, strange enough, synonyms in the French language.

And "homo" is even funnier. It means "Mensch", human being. Who wouldn't want to be a homo - we're all homo's, for that matter.

"Ecce homo" tells us the New Testament.

Slightly offtopic, I know. But interesting.

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Re: Did Brokeback Change our Culture?
« Reply #256 on: March 06, 2008, 05:21:06 PM »
(Just for info, the Latin stem "homo" does mean human being, as opposed to "vir" man. But the Greek prefix "homo" as in homosexual, means "same").

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Re: Did Brokeback Change our Culture?
« Reply #257 on: March 06, 2008, 08:12:14 PM »
i was always partial to homo erectus myself  >:D
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Re: Did Brokeback Change our Culture?
« Reply #258 on: March 07, 2008, 02:53:58 AM »
(Just for info, the Latin stem "homo" does mean human being, as opposed to "vir" man. But the Greek prefix "homo" as in homosexual, means "same").

So, exactly what I said, "ecce homo" means: "see, what a human being" (compassion/admiration)! And not: "look at that fag" (insult)!

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Re: Did Brokeback Change our Culture?
« Reply #259 on: March 07, 2008, 02:55:25 AM »

Isn't "homosexual" a hybrid word anyway, like "television", a mixture of 1. Greek and 2. Latin?

It's, as many gay theorists have pointed out, a "Unwort" (non-word).

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Re: Did Brokeback Change our Culture?
« Reply #260 on: August 06, 2022, 10:53:19 AM »
Just found this online, not sure if it's been posted anywhere on the forum before.

It's a thesis called The Social Impact of "Brokeback Mountain:" A Reception Study


It may be a long read, but thought there may be some interest.  When the page opens, click "View".


https://scholarship.miami.edu/esploro/outputs/graduate/The-Social-Impact-of-Brokeback-Mountain/991031447763302976


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Re: Did Brokeback Change our Culture?
« Reply #261 on: August 06, 2022, 11:02:34 AM »
Isn't "homosexual" a hybrid word anyway, like "television", a mixture of 1. Greek and 2. Latin?

It's, as many gay theorists have pointed out, a "Unwort" (non-word).

Yes, hybrid is the word used in linguistics. I once did a paper on hybrids for a Sociolinguistics class.

I remember closing the paper by summarizing the main points while supposedly listening to the album Aqualung by Jethro Tull.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4zPu3ISCGs

Aqualung is of course itself a hybrid word.

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Re: Did Brokeback Change our Culture?
« Reply #262 on: August 23, 2022, 07:47:22 PM »
Just found this online, not sure if it's been posted anywhere on the forum before.

It's a thesis called The Social Impact of "Brokeback Mountain:" A Reception Study


It may be a long read, but thought there may be some interest.  When the page opens, click "View".


https://scholarship.miami.edu/esploro/outputs/graduate/The-Social-Impact-of-Brokeback-Mountain/991031447763302976



It's interesting to know how the film's impact can still even be academically analyzed nearly 17 years later.

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Re: Did Brokeback Change our Culture?
« Reply #263 on: August 06, 2023, 02:28:21 PM »
Brokeback Mountain | A Retrospective

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-7Ck-7mk1s

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Re: Did Brokeback Change our Culture?
« Reply #264 on: August 06, 2023, 09:49:59 PM »
Brokeback Mountain | A Retrospective

Gui Huppé


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-7Ck-7mk1s

Finally got a chance to watch this after BB was over this evening.

Really well done, thanks, Chuck!

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Re: Did Brokeback Change our Culture?
« Reply #265 on: August 07, 2023, 04:10:41 AM »
I thought it was too, so I'm glad you liked  it!

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Re: Did Brokeback Change our Culture?
« Reply #266 on: August 07, 2023, 04:29:05 AM »

I agree with you guys.

And a good introduction for those who didn't know anything about 'our' movie yet.
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Re: Did Brokeback Change our Culture?
« Reply #267 on: December 15, 2023, 07:38:17 PM »
"Brokeback Mountain": Film for Social Change

Published: Dec 16, 2021


https://gradesfixer.com/free-essay-examples/brokeback-mountain-film-for-social-change/

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Re: Did Brokeback Change our Culture?
« Reply #268 on: March 09, 2024, 09:33:39 PM »
A poetic saga of desire and denial: The impact of ‘Brokeback Mountain’ on modern cinema

Debadrita Sur - Mon 14 June 2021


Typecasting Brokeback Mountain as a “gay cowboy movie” is brutal and unjust to the sheer beauty and vulnerability of the film, as well as the dance of denial and subsequent loss. Ang Lee, who had once considered retirement, was brought back with a bang in his true element by this film which also won him his first Academy Award for ‘Best Director’ in 2006. The film is set in a fictitious yet picturesque location, Brokeback Mountain, and chronicles the lives of two cowboys Ennis Del Mar and Jack Twist who are hired by Joe Aguirre in 1963 for sheep-herding. Slowly, the men develop a close, intimate relationship, but the values instilled in them by the heteronormative society prevents them from embracing their true feelings. They part from one another with heavy hearts, only to meet again, four years later. Ennis is married to the young Alma and has children of his own while Jack has a son with the wealthy daughter of a farm businessman, Lureen. Jack and Ennis rekindle their passion and frequently escape on romantic getaways under the pretext of fishing trips. However, the elephant in the room remains unaddressed and Ennis lives to regret his indecisiveness and orthodox nature when Jack meets his fateful ending.

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/brokeback-mountain-impact-on-modern-cinema/